The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (2010–…): Season 6, Episode 23 - Reunion Part Three - full transcript
- Tonight, the conclusion
of "The Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills" reunion.
- What you did was a áááá move.
- So much smack.
- Whatever.
- If my husband did that,
I would...
- I would be appalled.
- I would be so appalled.
- I'm assuming you're a member
of the mile-high club.
- [giggling]
- Fáááing hilarious.
- Who ate the camel meat,
just you?
- It actually tasted
pretty good.
- Ugh!
- It was gray.
- Should I tell her that you
called her a harmless old lady?
- Can I have my moment, please?
- [sighs]
- Everyone has their issue.
No one's a fáááing angel here.
- Hey, guys, I'm drinking wine
and no one can say a damn thing.
[dramatic music]
- Eileen, Carolyn from
Estes Park, Colorado, said,
"Hold on, you didn't
want to talk about
"your past relationships,
"but what's the difference
between talking about the affair
and talking about being used?"
- That's what... I didn't
understand that either.
- The thing about being
in an abusive relation
was really about letting people
know who I am
and what I've been through.
And that's what it
was really about.
And I read your blog, and that
was incredibly offensive.
You spoke about how you had
been in an abusive relationship,
but you don't feel the need to...
- Yeah.
- To share it, and...
- And that's absolutely true.
- When were you in
an abusive relationship?
- Oh, my God.
I was 19.
- He hurt you?
- Once.
Sorry.
No, I don't want to cry.
I don't want to cry.
Once, then twice,
and then I left.
But over a little time.
You know what?
I don't think I've cried
about it since it happened,
and I don't think I've even
dwelt on it.
I kind of brought it up
because saying,
"I understood that."
And I walked away.
- I think it's so interesting
that you didn't share that
when she was sharing that.
That's what
I'm kind of reacting to.
- Because this is the... this is
what we long to see from her.
- Right.
- We want to share
those deep emotions.
I think that we all
feel the same about it.
- I've hardly even...
I don't think I've hardly
talked about it with Ken.
Maybe once. - Wow.
- We want to know that
you have those experiences,
because that's where we connect.
- It wasn't
a positive experience.
- No, but...
- It was something I did once.
- My Lyme disease is not
a positive experience.
- No, I know, but...
- You know what I mean?
- It was something
that happened.
- But you and Eileen would've
had a deep connection
just over this,
and you would've probably be
way ahead in your friendship.
- That's what I...
- But by you not sharing...
- That's what I was
curious about when...
When she revealed that
at that table,
and you were all sitting there.
- I've been in extremely
physically abusive
relationships.
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- I just...
- I don't...
- My husband was there.
I didn't feel...
- Right.
- It was the right...
- Space?
- Time.
- It's how people bond.
- Yeah, that's life.
- It's how people bond.
- That's how people bond.
- On a deeper level.
- Well, maybe I'm different.
And I'm a different person.
- But sometimes it's also a
protective mechanism for people.
- Of course, of course.
- No, of course.
But, you know, like we
always talk about...
What can we share
in order for us
to create deeper friendships?
- That's why I brought it up.
- Some of us are more
comfortable sharing than others.
- I've seen this side to her
more than a couple times now.
And I... it's probably why
I feel so close to you.
I've seen you like this,
and in...
Much more sensitive than this.
I've seen her to tears
more than a couple times.
When we all share those things
that make us very vulnerable...
- But do you think you need to?
- It makes us... it makes you
more human to all of us.
- You don't need to.
- It makes us like you more.
- You don't need to, Lisa,
but sometimes
when everyone thinks that
you are, um...
- Above it all.
- Not... maybe not even
above it all,
but just that no one
can get to you.
- Detached.
- Yes, maybe that's a word,
detached,
and that you're not
as vulnerable as we are
in the relationship.
It... there's a separation.
- Lisa's the first to admit
she likes to live
in a fantasy land
of everything happy and pink
and roses and ponies.
- Right.
- It didn't even really
come to my mind.
- Right.
- To suddenly say, "Well, let me
share this with you too."
I talked about...
At the Hero Dog Awards...
What kept me up at night:
the fact that I spent six months
dedicating my life
to opening this cause
and absolutely looked
at pictures over and over again
of the slaughter
of these poor dogs.
So I... yes, absolutely
been heartbroken over it...
Heartbroken.
- I think, also,
it's abundantly clear
that you have way more
empathy and feeling for animals
than you do for, like, the women
that are in this group.
I mean, that's how I feel.
- Well, I thank you for that.
- I mean, I feel that way.
- You've said a lot of nasty
things about me this season.
- Oh, I... I think that's...
- A lot of nasty things.
- I think that's
kind of obvious.
- I do have a lot of empathy
for animals,
and I do have a lot of empathy
for people I care about.
I really do.
- I don't think I've said
anything really that nasty.
I think I've been trying
to be extremely honest.
- Okay.
- And...
- Well, it's hurt my feelings.
- Well, I'm sorry. I really am.
I'm very, very sorry
to hurt your feelings.
- You know what's interesting,
though, that just happened?
When you just said
your feelings were hurt,
she apologized, like,
within one second.
- Yeah, and I'm sincere.
- Which is kind of what
she was looking for from you.
- That much would make me go,
"Oh, I can relate to this person
as another human being."
I wasn't even getting that.
- Do you have a hard time
saying you're sorry?
- I don't know.
- Yolanda's nodding.
- Well, I think... I think you do.
It's nothing new,
you know what I mean?
- No, it's nothing new.
- So do you think you have
a hard time saying, "I'm sorry"?
- Well, if everybody says that,
then I must do, but I thought...
- You don't see it in yourself?
- Uh...
- And that's okay too.
I mean...
- You know what really
bothers me about this?
- I think Erika
brought it up this year.
- Can I say what bothers me
about this entire thing?
I feel like I've become
a bitch through this,
and it was really
never my intention.
I am not the kind of person
that wants to cause trouble
or seeks trouble out.
I really try to resolve sháá.
- And get clarity.
- And to find myself in this
was very disturbing for me.
But I really felt,
the way you treated me,
I had no recourse.
I had to stand up for myself,
and I had to speak my truth.
I never meant this to be, like,
a gang of five on you, Lisa.
But the more I saw
how you behaved
and you deflected and you acted,
the more pissed off I got.
Do you admit that you do that?
- What?
- I don't think that you...
I think that it's...
- Do what?
- Really lost in translation.
I don't think... I don't think...
- Okay.
I'm not sure that's...
I'm not sure that's true.
But okay.
- Well, when Erika
spoke with Kathryn
about Lisa Vanderpump,
Erika assumed the conversation
was private.
But Kathryn had other ideas,
and soon the two women
were caught in a bigger web
than even Lisa Vanderpump
could spin.
Take a look.
- You're too nice, and you're
taken advantage of.
- Advantage of, and then
if you're too mean,
then you're a áááá.
- Oh, I hate that word.
Don't say that word.
- You do?
- Tell me about you.
Do you have women friends?
- I had never been
well-liked by women.
- I will be your first
genuine woman friend.
- I want really good women
in my life,
not just any old broad
that comes in.
What do you think
of Lisa Vanderpump?
- She's the nice...
She's so sw... she...
- [laughing] She's smart.
I think she's a sniper
from the side.
I think she doesn't want
to leave any fingerprints.
- I had lunch with Erika.
She started talking
about Vanderpump.
And she said,
"Don't let her steer you,
and don't get
caught in her web."
- Honestly, I thought we had
spoken in confidence,
so I'm a little disappointed.
- That's on you.
I can keep a secret,
but if you don't
want it repeated,
you don't say it.
- You know what?
I was really hurt by the fact
you came to my house,
and you said, "Hey,
I want to be your friend."
And then you tell her this...
- You said, "Oh, the web."
What's the web bullsháá?
Really? It's nonsense.
It is nonsense.
- It's not nonsense.
Don't roll your eyes.
- But wait a minute now.
- Whoa, time out.
I'm not finished with my...
- Okay, well, fine.
- I would never come
to someone's home,
meet someone's husband
for the first time,
and acting like a fáááing ass.
- Listen, I'll...
- We're trying to have
a nice dinner party.
My husband doesn't know you.
- I didn't break...
- He's trying to get
to know you.
- I thought your husband
was lovely.
- He is lovely,
but how would you know?
'Cause you talked
the whole fáááing night.
- Okay, I offended Erika.
I will own it. I'll apologize.
I say to you, Erika, I'm sorry
that I caused problems.
- Can I give you a hug, Erika?
- Yes.
All: Aww.
- I don't really give
second chances.
But Kathryn apologized.
- We're good, right?
- We're not talking... yes.
- Okay.
- There won't be a third chance.
I'm glad that we got past
our differences and we moved on.
- Me too.
- Happy birthday.
[glasses clinking]
- Thank you, sweetie.
I feel beautiful.
- Shane from
Rockville, Maryland, wonders,
"Kathryn, where do you get off
telling Erika
not to say the C-word?"
- For me, it caught me
off guard.
I'm still an old-fashioned girl,
and I was raised that
you never use that word.
And when I hear it, it's like,
[gasps] "Oh, my God.
Don't say it. Don't say that."
Like, that's just horrible.
- Who here thinks it's okay
to say the C-word?
- I think the way
she says it is fine.
I mean, she...
- I have a nasty mouth.
- You know, it doesn't...
- I say everything.
But, you know, like...
Like Lisa knows,
when Brandi first started
using that word,
it was, for me, more shocking.
- No, no, meaning, you know...
- She said that she liked you.
Like, you're, like, a good áááá.
- What did you just say?
- You're a good one.
Like, ááááá in a good way.
- Oh, for God's sake, Brandi.
- That was the first time
I heard...
- I hate that word. I hate it.
And I might use other words.
- But I don't judge.
- But I don't like that word.
I think that's really
kind of degrading.
- Lisa Vanderpump, you say
the word "pussy" all the time.
- Yeah, in England,
"pussy" isn't such a...
I grew up hearing that word.
- Oh, my God, Sophia just
had her hair turned pink.
- No.
- Yeah, today.
- I had everything done pink.
Like the pussy, as well.
- You don't even have... what?
- Yes.
- Did you just say the P-word?
- It's light pink. Yes.
You're allowed to say that
in England.
- In the moment when I objected
to Erika using the word,
it was, oh, if someone's
being rude, she's a áááá.
And to me...
- Well, that's different.
- Well, that's how she said it.
And that's when I said,
"No, don't say that.
Don't use that word."
That is exactly the context
that it was used in.
- All right, Kathryn Peete
from Fort Smith, Arkansas,
said, "You told Erika you wanted
to be her friend
"and for her to trust you.
"Then you betrayed her
to Lisa Vanderpump.
Do you see how horrible you are,
or should I point it out?"
- I don't think
I'm a horrible person.
I definitely should've
handled it differently.
In hindsight,
I should have stopped you
when you were saying the things
that you were saying
and said I didn't like that,
and I didn't want to take that.
And I didn't want you
to say that in front of me.
- Or you could've just
kept it and not said anything.
- That would've made me feel,
when the show aired,
that I was being dishonest.
I don't... I don't roll
like that, Erika.
I don't. I don't.
I would've been co-signing.
- But you just told me
you wanted to be my friend.
- But I told you I wanted
to be your friend
before you started talking
all that smack,
and there was, like,
20 minutes in between.
- It's not smack.
It's my opinion...
My in-person observation.
- What if you had just said,
"Well, I disagree with you,"
and said why you...
- That's what I said I wish
I would've done.
I wish I would've said,
"I disagree with you."
- But you didn't.
But you didn't do that.
- Nope, nope.
- You listened with intent,
you came there,
and then immediately ran to her
and told.
And then you admitted it
at my house
that you did it to get
a reaction out of me.
And you did not conduct yourself
the best way at my house.
She even agrees.
The audience agrees.
- Well, that... that...
- And did I tell her that you
called her a harmless old lady?
- [sighs]
[exciting music]
- Coming up...
- I've seen your
sit-down interviews
calling me a fáááing áááá
after it.
- Yeah, because you know what?
That was a áááá move.
What you did was a áááá move.
- Should I tell her that you
called her a harmless old lady?
- Who?
- Her.
- When did I call Vanderpump...
- On the phone.
- To who?
- To me.
- Never a harmless old lady.
- Oh, Kathryn.
Oh, no, no, no.
- A harmless old lady?
- Oh, no, no, no, Kathryn,
we had a conversation.
- Harmless old...
- You called her
a harmless old lady.
Swear on my son's life.
- Swear on the Bible.
- No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- Oh, please, Erika,
give me a break.
- Absolutely not. No.
- This is like a desperate...
- You're desperate, honey.
Not me. No, no, no.
- I don't call anyone harmless,
and I don't call people
old ladies.
- Are you a harmless old lady?
- You do.
You called her an old lady.
- She's not old.
- Every single night in Dubai.
- When was that?
- Or harmless.
- When we were sitting
at the dinner table.
It was... you talked
so much smack.
I didn't repeat a tenth
of the stuff you said.
- No, not true, Kathryn.
You came to my house
with ill intent,
and this is where it ends up.
- Now you're changing
the subject,
because you know what?
- Not changing any subject.
Keep going.
- No, Erika.
- Keep going.
- You talk so much smack
about everybody,
except Yolanda.
So much smack.
- Kathryn, whatever. What is...
- What whatever?
- Where... what is it?
- No, no, no, no, no, no.
- Tell me the words.
- Not whatever.
- Give me the words.
- You call all of us old ladies.
Almost every night when
we'd come back in Dubai,
it was just, "Blah, blah,
everyone... no one has taste.
"No one dresses well.
No one's hair looks good.
No one's makeup looks good."
I've seen your
sit-down interviews
calling me a fáááing áááá
after it.
- Yeah, because you know what?
That was a áááá move.
What you did was a áááá move.
That's right, you don't come
to someone's home...
- A fáááing áááá.
- Do that.
You don't.
- In Kathryn's defense,
when she did tell me,
it was only a little bit.
She said, "Don't get caught
in the web."
- Uh, let me ask this.
- You didn't...
You barely knew me.
- That's just my
in-person observation
of what you done to Eileen
in the Hamptons...
- What did I...
- And what was going on
with, uh,
her and the kids
at the barbecue.
That's why I said it.
- But you weren't there when
Eileen and I had a conversation.
- She was, actually.
- I was.
- And I saw you
intently watching.
You know, I'm trying to,
like, get past it.
- We all love each other,
and that's...
- But you did say to me, "So is
that when the affair started?"
- Okay, don't worry about it.
- Who thinks Kathryn was wrong
to take what Erika said
and bring it to Lisa Vanderpump?
- Me, me.
- You do too?
- I do.
- Yeah, probably.
- Of course.
- Yeah, that was wrong.
- I've owned it.
I told you guys.
- I told you that.
- I handled it wrong, 100%.
- Yolanda, the day
you picnicked in the park,
you agreed with Erika
about Lisa Vanderpump
spinning webs.
- Lisa's very smart.
And sometimes, you know,
like with Brandi...
That was Brandi's
biggest complaint,
was that she felt that Lisa
would set her up
in certain situations.
- Oh, please.
Brandi's got such a mouth.
Sorry.
- Lisa, I'm just... I'm just
trying to answer the question.
I'm just... you know what I mean?
So I've heard it before
in the group.
She hasn't done it
with me personally,
but I've heard... I've seen it.
- Lisa, Raina from
Bowling Green, Kentucky, said,
"Tom compared you
to an alligator
"waiting to attack its prey,
and you thought it was great."
- You know what?
You remind me a little bit...
Not looks-wise...
Of an alligator.
- [laughing]
- "And you took offense to Erika
comparing you to a spider
spinning its web."
- Now, hold on a second.
When we were out for dinner
and he said that,
of course I didn't like it,
and Ken didn't like it at all.
But he was so sweet,
and he was charming,
and he was playing with me...
- He was playing with you.
- And even when...
Yeah, I don't want
to say anything bad about him,
but even when I sat down
at dinner,
he said, "You're my only
worthy opponent."
So he's kind of
sparring with me a bit.
Of course it was a bit rude,
but hey, I was out
for a laugh with him.
- But you know what?
Lisa's tough, and Tom actually...
- I'm not that tough, actually.
I'm not as tough as you
think I am.
When I saw you say,
"Oh, sniper,"
that kind of thing
really hurts my feelings.
- Well, I'm very sorry it does.
- That's okay.
- Those are my feelings.
- That's okay.
- She's never said a bad word
about anyone.
And as much as she's supposedly
this big manipulator,
I've never heard her say
one bad word about anyone.
- I'm not saying any
sháá about them.
I don't need to.
- Eileen, Juanita from
San Antonio, Texas, said,
"The web thing was between
Erika and Kathryn.
"At the Habitat for Humanity
house,
"why were you stirring up sháá
when you should have been
stirring paint?"
- [sighs] I was doing both.
- I'm actually glad
she was doing it.
- I was doing both that day.
- You are?
- Yes, because we came
to a resolution, which stuck.
- Thank you.
- Yes.
- I'm so happy to hear that.
- So thank you.
I'm sorry.
- No, it's true... it was true.
- It wasn't really about
sháá-stirring.
- We were able to get past it.
- And we never argued again.
- Never.
- Erika, you forgave Kathryn.
Will you ever confide
in her again?
- I mean, listen... and I've
said this many times...
Kathryn and I are on the road
to a real friendship.
We got off to a bad start.
She apologized.
I accepted. We're moving on.
- Very good.
The viewers have no lack
of opinions.
One in Encino, California,
had so many, in fact,
she sent in a video.
Take a look at what
she had to say.
- Hey, guys, I'm drinking wine,
and no one can say a damn thing.
How's it going?
I've been watching you.
It's so amazing to be a viewer.
Kyle, you and I have had
some fun times together.
I have an odd soft spot for you,
because I know you can be good.
- That doesn't make sense, so...
- Yeah.
- You are one person when
you're around Vanderpump,
and you're a completely
other person
when she's not in your life.
And I like you when
she's not in your life.
Kathryn, I like younger men too.
Your husband's hot.
Good for you.
I want to say I'm sorry
to Eileen.
I really didn't think
you had it in you
to man up and call BS on LVP.
- [sighs]
- And your hair looks
amazing this season.
I don't know who's doing it now,
but you need to get Rinna
on that bandwagon.
- Why are we giving her
a platform?
She's not on the show.
What... just to sit there, and we
can't even answer her back?
- Hold on, we'll talk about it.
- Rinna, the truth is,
you're not bipolar.
You're just, like, seriously
nuttier than squirrel sháá.
Like, bat-sháá crazy.
I'm so sick of you saying,
"Own your sháá and deflect."
Those... you can't
say that anymore.
I knew I loved Erika
the second she called Lisa
a sniper from the side,
because she is on point.
And it only took me
five years to figure that out.
Like, literally knew in a second
and read that bitch.
Lisa Vanderpump,
you are genius, obviously, um...
- I don't know.
- At changing the narrative.
- We could all be brave and sit
there with a glass of wine
and film us and throw
the crap out there.
- You were unfortunately
a puppeteer for me.
You manipulated me.
- Oh, please.
Who can pull her strings?
- And I did do your dirty work
for you.
And I'm sorry for that, and
that will never happen again.
- You know, I think to sit there
and have a go at all of us...
Are we allowed to do that?
- Cheers, bitches.
- She was fired from the show.
And so we're allowed to do that
and just put it out there
with a glass of wine
and insult everybody?
Really, Andy?
- Well, all of you have...
- She always says I talk
about her on the show,
but all she does is watch
the show and tweet about it.
- Sure, but we
don't talk about...
All she does is tweet about it.
I don't even follow her
on Twitter.
- She says we speak about her.
Get over it.
And she speaks about us
all the time.
- She would say you all
bring her up.
- What's your point?
- Everybody does.
She still does? Whatever.
Who cares?
- Why does she think
you're a different person
around Vanderpump?
- 'Cause she doesn't like us
being friends.
- She doesn't like it.
Tried to split us up.
- She paid you a compliment
and apologized to you.
- Yeah.
- Do you accept her apology?
- Sure.
[laughter] - Sure.
Lisa Rinna, what did you think
about what she said?
- Mmm, who?
- Exactly.
- Yolanda, what's your reaction
to what Brandi had to say?
- You know,
I think it's only fair
that, you know,
if Kim gets to come here
and have her space to speak,
I think it's fair that Brandi
got it this way, so...
- It's not that it's about fair.
It's how she talks every time.
- I'm answering... I'm answering
Andy's question.
- So derogatory.
- I know, and I'm giving
my opinion,
'cause that's what
we're supposed to do here.
- You have the opportunity
to have the last word here.
- I'm just saying... no, but she's
always so derogatory
about everything.
There's always an angle,
and I'm just glad
it's not part of my life.
I'm asked questions
about her constantly.
"So, are you gonna
make up for it?"
I don't even want
to talk about it.
I don't even think about it.
She's just ridiculous, so,
no, I wish her well.
Go play with somebody else.
[dramatic music]
- Coming up...
Talking about
the mile-high club,
most of you are members.
- [whistles]
[upbeat music]
- When it comes to wealth,
nothing tops Beverly Hills.
The jewels are pricey,
the ponies are mini,
and the travel is better
than first class.
Take a look.
♪ ♪
- Ooh, I love a white Rolls.
[people chattering]
- Oh!
- Oh, Harry.
- These earrings are big,
fat, fáááing diamonds...
Like, sinful, big, fat,
fáááing diamonds.
- [gasps]
No, I can't even take it.
Excuse me.
- No, stop the madness.
- Little horses, little horses.
Please come love me. [laughs]
♪ ♪
- The yacht is absolutely
beautiful.
It has five bedrooms,
a media room...
- All right,
shouldn't we jump on?
I rent this bus
for when I do shows.
- I call top bunk.
- I want top bunk too.
I don't have my own tour bus,
because most of the time,
it's not feasible
to have a tour bus.
I just fly.
On my plane.
♪ ♪
- This is the master bedroom.
This is the royal suite room.
This is the most expensive one.
- This is our room?
- Yes.
- I thought it was a lobby.
- We're in the most expensive?
- Yes.
- [gasps]
- We're just...
- Oh, the sharks are there.
[all screaming]
♪ ♪
- Look at those lashes.
They put yours to shame.
- I was gonna save you
some camel meat.
- Oh, no.
I'm not eating a camel.
- Little gamey, but there's
a lot of good seasonings in it.
The camel meat is good.
It kind of tastes like chicken.
[camel grunts]
- There's one less camel
over there.
- Oh, my God.
So who ate the camel meat?
Just you? - Uh-huh.
- How was it?
- It actually tasted
pretty good.
- Ugh!
- It was gray.
- I, I...
- It was gray.
- It was. It was gray.
- You all visited each other's
rooms in Dubai.
Who do you think
had the best room?
- Lisa and Kyle.
- Oh, yeah, Lisa and Kyle.
- Come on.
- Your suite was
40 grand a night.
- Yeah.
- 40 grand a night!
- I mean, unbelievable.
But it something like
10,000 square foot.
- I actually think Eileen's room
was the most amazing.
Sleeping with a shark.
- Now, I've got to tell you,
quite honestly,
it was so comforting.
- Yeah.
- It was like being in a cave
or a safe womb.
And the colors were so tranquil.
- I would feel claustrophobic.
- The best part, though,
was they promised
that nobody could see
into the room.
- I know!
- In the... the diver?
- Yes!
- They told me...
They said, "They can't see in,"
so I see somebody
cleaning the windows,
and I'm like,
"Well, he can't see me."
I'm in a robe, in bed.
And then I go into the bathroom,
and I look back, and he goes...
[laughter]
- That was amazing.
- That's funny.
- We were dying laughing.
- That is funny.
Erika, how often do you fly?
- The plane is really tops,
I mean, for business.
So if I get on there, I'm lucky.
- What was wrong
with that tea bag?
- Victoria, honey.
What happened to this tea bag?
- Oh.
- Can we have a new one, baby?
It was open on the side,
so all the tea was spilling out.
- Ugh.
- I know.
- I mean, the travesty.
- Devastating.
- Oh, my God.
- Victoria!
Listen, let me tell you
something, though.
Anybody who flies private
knows that that is nothing
compared to what
those chicks see.
They have seen everything
in the air.
- Oh, yeah.
- Oh, of course.
- I'm assuming you're a member
of the mile-high club.
- I'll plead the fifth.
- [giggling]
- If you're talking about
the mile-high club,
most of you are members.
- [whistling]
- I'm actually not.
- I'm not.
- Really?
- I'm not.
- Oh.
- No.
- Some friendships look better
through rosé-colored glasses.
And between the two of them,
Kyle and Lisa Rinna
have more than 30 years of bliss
with Lisa Vanderpump.
But when the glasses came off,
things got a little less rosy.
Take a look.
- Hold on tight, Vanderpump.
- Whoo!
- Yeah, exactly, come on!
- Are you jealous of these?
- Mine are real gold.
I know yours are too.
Lisa and I have fun
like nobody else,
and that is what we both
missed about each other.
- Hot, hot.
- Oh! Oh, my God.
Look at those shoes.
I like to be around
sparkly things,
so she's fun to be around.
She's always a good time.
- Is she better now?
I'm confused.
- True Munchausen Syndrome.
Those affected feign disease
to draw attention to themselves.
- I had not heard the word
"Munchausen's"
until Lisa Rinna brought it up.
I mean, that's a serious word.
She came upstairs,
and she said...
I said, "Oh"...
To Lisa, "Oh, my God,
that Munchausen's...
Such a big word."
I thought you were gonna
throw Kyle in it, like, "Phew,".
Like, I thought you were
gonna drag me into it.
- Why would I drag you into it?
- Why would Lisa Vanderpump
say to me,
"Why didn't you bring
Kyle into it?"
And then why would she
say to Kyle,
"Phew, I thought Lisa Rinna
was gonna bring you into it"?
She's caught.
- That's not making sense, which
is why I'm trying to tell you...
Let me help you as your friend.
Change your story right now.
- Okay, okay.
No, I'm not changing my story.
- Change it.
I'm sticking with the truth.
- That's not the truth!
- Kyle appears to always
have to please Lisa Vanderpump
to keep their friendship afloat.
If that's not tragic,
I don't know what is.
- You're not making sense.
- Oh, my God.
- You got to say something else.
Please, please help justify
me sitting here sticking by you.
- Okay, okay.
I'm not okay with that.
- I will not fáááing tell a lie!
And you know what?
To me, our friendship's
too important.
- I'm not asking you
to tell a lie.
That's not fair.
- No, I'm asking you
not to tell one.
- So, Kyle,
this friendship with Lisa,
which has been through
kind of a rollercoaster ride,
clearly means a lot to you.
- Yes, it does.
But I mean, it is
a rollercoaster ride.
You know, especially it's
focused on when we had issues.
But we've had, you know, far
more good times than bad times.
- It seems like in Dubai
and elsewhere this season,
you have been firmly
on the side of,
"I want to do whatever it takes
to keep my friendship
with Vanderpump."
- Well, I love her.
And, you know...
And I think she loves me.
I know... I know she loves me.
- You know she...
- Yeah, I know she loves me.
And her friendship's
important to me,
not because, you know...
I mean, I know Lisa Rinna
accused me of kissing her ass,
but I know that if I were
going through a hard time
that she'd be there for me.
So you know what?
I-I don't know what to say.
- And how would you describe
your friendship with Vanderpump?
- You know, it's, it's...
It's changed.
It's rolled around.
It's gone up. It's gone down.
It was really fun last year,
and we started out
having fun this year,
and then, um, as you can see,
it changed.
- I have to say, the two of you
are very fun to watch together.
I mean, you have
a funny relationship, and...
- Because we speak, like,
every few days.
And literally, she'll phone me.
I mean, that's even
when we talked about
the pictures, you know.
I mean, it was good-hearted,
light-hearted fun.
- You laughed about
what pictures?
Me being on an IV?
- No, but I'm saying that
when your head was popping out
of the toaster or something,
and she sent it or whatever.
And we laughed, you know.
Yeah, we did. I mean, I'm sorry.
We told you that.
- I'm glad... I'm glad
you thought that was funny.
- Sure, it doesn't come off
great to you when you hear that,
but I'm being honest.
Did I... - Yeah.
- Did I, like... "Oh, my gosh,
what is this Instagram post"?
Yes, 'cause some of them
were outrageous.
- Kyle, Darren from
Vail, Colorado, said,
"Lisa told Ken
she didn't complain
"about her room in Italy,
"which she said was
smaller than her closet.
What did you think
when you heard that?"
- I gave her a nice room,
and she doesn't like
to share a bathroom.
- Ken is sometimes
very opinionated
when it comes to your friends,
especially if
they've ever upset you.
- Mm-hmm.
- I mean, really, he...
And this has been
a common theme for years.
- I can't change him.
- In the final episode,
he called Lisa Rinna
a "stupid bitch,"
among other things.
- Rinna just kept going at me.
"You're a liar, and own it."
- Come on.
- I... listen, and then I...
- What are you giving her
any credence for?
She's a fáááing stupid bitch.
- He's gonna have a reaction.
What am I gonna do,
not discuss it with him?
- But you don't... but again,
you don't go to another woman
and call her...
- But that's up to him.
- Those kind of names.
- That's up to him.
- Well, that's your husband!
If my husband did that about any
of you women, I would...
- I would be appalled.
- I would be so appalled.
- If my husband said that
about another woman...
- I would vomit,
I would be so appalled.
- Are you appalled?
[dramatic music]
Coming up...
- You guys can't figure out,
am I a people pleaser,
or am I bipolar crazy
and a crazy bitch.
- If my husband did that about
any of you women, I would...
- I would be appalled.
- I would be so appalled.
- If my husband said that
about another woman...
- I would vomit,
I would be so appalled.
- Are you appalled?
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- No.
He felt that way. He was upset.
- Shall I just say what your
husband called me on camera?
- Yeah, and he felt that way.
- I want to read it.
- By the way,
if we're telling the truth.
- Okay, if we're telling
the truth.
Ken called me a stupid bitch.
- Yeah.
- A silly cow,
not the full ticket,
a wanker, crazy, stupid...
- Wanker... I don't think he'd
use the word wanker.
- Yeah, he did.
- He did.
- Just laugh at the silly cow.
She's not the full ticket.
I'm telling you,
she's not the full ticket.
I feel sorry for her.
Oh, what a wanker.
- [laughing]
You cannot say that.
- Oh, of course I can say it.
They're so stupid.
- Ken was pissed off.
I mean, she just said...
[overlapping speech]
- Ken is not part of this cast.
- Let me ask you a question.
- Yes?
- If Harry Hamlin called you
a stupid bitch
and a wanker, and...
- Not wanker.
- He would never do that.
- You don't call a woman
a wanker, so...
- Uh, I wrote it down!
- Okay, well, it doesn't even...
It's not even a bad word.
Whatever, yeah
- If Harry Hamlin called you
that list of names...
- Yeah, I'd be pissed off.
- It was disturbingly insulting.
- So do you think
Ken owes her an apology, or...
- Maybe he does.
- He wouldn't.
This is the same thing
that happened two years ago,
and it wasn't about Ken.
It was about our difference,
and Ken interfered
dis-aggressively in me.
- Well, I was talking to Ken.
- Ken, why are you getting
involved?
- What do you mean, why am I
getting involved?
Don't be so stupid.
- Don't call me stupid.
- You just went out there
and just... oh, come on.
- Who do you think you are
to call me stupid?
That is unacceptable.
- He said Yolanda looked
terrible without makeup...
- Yeah, but that's not...
- At Lisa Rinna's
birthday party.
- But that was... she looked ill.
- I told her she looked better.
She didn't.
Promise you,
she did not look better.
- No.
- She looked terrible.
- She looked great, though.
I thought she looked
really good.
- No, I... see, that...
- She did.
- What I saw was not
the Yolanda I know.
And it's not saying
she looks terrible,
like, to her face.
But I said to her, "Oh,
you look so much better now."
- She looked great, but for Ken
to say, no, she looked awful...
- She did.
- No, she didn't.
- He questioned Kyle...
- No, she didn't.
I thought she looked ill.
- Well, she was ill.
- She didn't look awful.
She didn't look awful, though.
- She was ill.
- Yeah.
- She was ill.
- That's exactly right.
- Uh, he questioned
Kyle's sense of fashion
because of her fondness
for muumuus.
- This is good
for the wedding, right?
It's, like, a black tie wedding.
- For Kyle?
- Yeah.
- She's not used to something
as fashionable as that.
- Oh, shut up. You are so mean.
- Haven't you got a muumuu?
She loves those.
- They're caftans, everybody.
- They're muumuus.
- They're not. They're caftans.
- Erika, um, you called
Lisa Vanderpump a diva.
- Oh, that's a compliment.
All right, diva, well, listen.
I will see you...
- Did you call me diva, darling?
- I did.
I hope you take it
as a compliment,
because I mean it.
- Oh, well, you got
the memo, then.
[laughter]
- Hey, miss a beat, Erika.
- Yeah, but she said it in
a lighthearted way on the phone.
- 1,000%.
- She was just, "Hello, diva."
- Rinna, Eileen first
referred to Vanderpump
as a manipulator, and then...
- For the last few months.
- Right.
- You eventually said
you understood
what she was talking about.
You said that she called
and texted you
what to talk about.
- Who?
- What did she tell you to say?
- Well, then Munchausen, and...
- I did not.
- She called to prod me to be
more upset about the bipolar,
which the truth was,
I really wasn't.
- What happened in Amsterdam
shocked me.
I'm not gonna lie.
I could clearly label her
unstable or bipolar.
I would never do that.
- You're 50...
Whatever, like, two.
Well, yeah, 52 years old.
I mean, don't you
speak your mind?
- Are you easily manipulated?
- Are you serious?
- I don't know,
I mean, maybe, um,
I was a little bit.
Maybe. I don't know.
I'm not usually
easily manipulated.
- Kathryn, do you think
Lisa Rinna
is easily manipulated?
- I think the word
that you used before
is that you're a people pleaser.
- Well, I don't like the word
people pleaser, really.
I... I don't...
I don't see myself as...
I mean, you guys
can't figure out,
am I a people pleaser, or am I
bipolar crazy and a crazy bitch?
- Oh, nobody ever said...
- You know, aggressive and all.
- I think you were afraid
of Lisa Vanderpump.
- You said Vanderpump and Kyle
were sending pictures
of Yolanda back and forth...
- They were.
- And talking about Munchausen
before you said it on camera.
- Well, let me clarify.
- No, no, no, no.
- Let me clarify... we all talked
about the Munchausen.
- Yes, but who brought it up?
- I did.
- Rinna, who brought it up?
- But you knew about it.
- No, no. [overlapping speech]
That's not fair.
- You did too!
You fáááing called me
on the phone.
- Hold on, Rinna, Rinna...
- Oh, my God.
- Rinna, Rinna, Rinna.
- Sorry.
- Let's back up, you and me.
Rinna... - You did.
- The first time I ever
heard the word
was at SHU sitting with Jana...
- Okay, SHU, Spin, whatever.
- But I said to you,
"No, that's about children."
And you said, "No, no, no.
That's Munchausen's by proxy."
- Okay, all I'm saying is,
you knew about it.
- And you'd explained it...
- Munchausen syndrome.
It's related to Munchausen
by proxy, which is a whole...
- That's what I just said.
I've heard of Munchausen
by proxy.
- It's you.
- You told... I never heard
the word Munchausen
till you brought it up.
Why'd you say we did it?
- But no, I did...
- Her point is, you were
having discussions about it
before she ever brought it up
on camera.
- Yes.
- Just... never with
Lisa Vanderpump.
You and me only at, uh, dinner.
- But she knew about it.
How does she know about it?
Because then she called me.
- Maybe she'd mentioned
it to me.
- Yeah, okay.
- But I never thought
Munchausen...
- Maybe I did. I don't remember.
- You didn't bring it up. I did.
- We did not bring it up
first, correct?
- Yes.
- Thank you, done.
- In Dubai, Lisa Rinna,
you claimed you caught
Lisa Vanderpump lying
about whether or not
she thought you
should bring Kyle
into the Munchausen
conversation.
- That is correct.
That is absolutely correct.
- So basically, what do you feel
that Lisa Vanderpump
said to you in the driveway?
- I don't feel anything.
I'll tell you exactly.
- Okay.
- I left.
She came running out after me
and said...
- I always say good-byes.
- Can I have my moment, please?
- Yeah, sure.
- Okay, ready? Okay.
- She came running out after me
and said,
"Why didn't you bring
Kyle into it?"
- I thought you were gonna
drag Kyle into it.
I thought she was gonna
drag us all into it.
- So why wouldn't
you have said that?
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Coming up...
- If she's manipulative
at times, whatever.
I think a lot of women are.
But it's also very mean
at times.
Like, everyone's...
Everyone has their issue.
No one's a fáááing angel here.
- I said I thought you were
gonna drag Kyle into it.
I thought she was gonna
drag us all into it.
- So why wouldn't
you have said that?
[dramatic music]
Why would you say Kyle?
- Why would she?
Why would she drag you
all into it?
- Yeah, why would I?
- Because she said
we've all been talking
about it like this when she was
reading the Munchausen's.
- Right, and you went upstairs...
- Kyle was still there.
- So yeah, and then
I said to Kyle,
"I thought she was gonna
drag you into it."
- It's not going to be any
different than it was in Dubai.
- I know. It's the same.
- I said that, but she's just...
- And so what does that mean?
- It's just gonna be the same.
- Well, I said to her,
"Why would say just me?"
- I said, "Because you've
gone backwards and forwards."
- And I said, "Cause if you
think you're gonna just, like,
"try to, like, drag me
into it without you,
"I would take you down
in fáááing flames,
"because I only talked
about the Instagram post,
nothing else."
It had nothing to do
with Munchausen's.
So that's what I said.
- And you feel
that this proves...
- Well...
- She was wondering why Kyle
wasn't being brought
into the whole Munchausen thing
and being responsible
for saying it as well.
- I was owning it myself.
- I thought when you said we've
all been talking about it,
you'd have much more
contact with Kyle,
talking about Instagram posts
and things like that.
- But I didn't bring
anybody into it.
- A little bit more, because...
- You never brought
anybody into it.
- I didn't bring
anybody into it.
I sat there,
and I did it myself.
- And you felt so bad,
because it was on her.
- And you said to me,
"What should I do?"
And I said, "You know what,
Lisa, you don't speak
from your own perspective."
- Oh, here we go.
Deflect, deflect, deflect.
What are you talking about?
Now you're gonna make
everybody crazy.
It's called gas-lighting.
So you make everybody
think that they're crazy.
- She's not a liar.
She's not a liar, Lisa.
- You know what?
- Yolanda, Erika told you
that she believed
Lisa Rinna's account of that day
at Lisa Vanderpump's.
Who do you believe and why?
- It's all confusing to me.
You know what I mean?
- I don't lie, though.
I don't lie.
- I don't think that...
- I don't lie.
- I'm gonna go with Eileen,
and I'm gonna go with her
instinct and her experience
from that, because she was
never the one
to bring up this conversation,
so I feel...
- I have nothing to gain.
- And she was there that day.
- I have nothing to gain.
- She came in, and she saw
how upset I was.
She saw it. - I wouldn't say it.
If I said to Kyle...
- I think it's that
you brought it up...
You brought up Kyle's name
to both of them.
- But why to Kyle?
- To Kyle and to...
- 'Cause are you trying to pit
people against one another?
I don't know, what are you
trying to do?
- Kyle knows that Lisa's
capable of that.
- Kyle, you know, 'cause she
went to you and said,
"I thought Lisa was
gonna be new to it."
- I said that?
Why would I say that
to her if I...
- So then, Kyle, where do you...
Where do you stand?
- I just don't think
this is that...
I mean, I honestly don't feel
like this is that big of a deal.
- I do.
- I had a conversation
about that.
I know you do, Lisa.
We talked about this
on the boat in Dubai.
- I actually wondered
if she was gonna bring us
all into it... that's it.
- You didn't say that, though.
- But that's how I felt.
- That's not what you said!
I think this is more
your issue with Lisa than...
And I don't know why...
- Well, I guess what it is
is that...
- It feels like it's trying
to make a problem with us.
Like, if you have an issue...
- Well, I'm not.
[overlapping speech]
- You're totally missing
the point.
- Be friends.
- You're totally missing
the point.
You basically said that
Lisa Rinna was right, correct?
- I spoke my truth on the boat.
- Well, how would she know?
- And so now we rest our case.
- I spoke my truth on the boat.
- It's that simple.
That's okay, I don't want you
not to be friends.
Be friends.
- I just feel like
it's getting...
- Did you speak your truth,
or did you speak the truth?
- I did.
What do you mean, the what?
- That's the truth, correct?
It's not your version of events.
It's the truth.
- I spoke the truth.
- Why would you say
to Lisa Vanderpump,
"I'll take you down
in fáááing flames with me"?
That means something's
pretty intense.
- When I said "take you down
in flames,"
do I really mean I want
to take her down in flames?
No, but yes, I was annoyed
that my name got brought up.
- Okay.
- Well, Miranda
from Los Angles said,
"Kyle clearly suffers
from Stockholm Syndrome."
- What's Stockholm Syndrome?
- "Constantly abused
by her sisters,
"and Lisa Vanderpump
has a history
"of poking her when she's down.
Lisa doesn't treat her well,
and Kyle's okay with that."
- That's not... I don't...
You know what?
Maybe I feel like it's just
not that big of a deal.
If she's manipulative
at times, whatever.
I think a lot of women are,
especially smart women.
But it's also very mean
at times.
Like, everyone's...
Everyone has their issue.
No one's a fáááing angel here.
- [laughs]
- When you look back
at the seasons...
- Yeah.
- It seems like you have
been accused by Brandi...
- Lisa's never once asked me
to say anything for her.
Never said, "Brandi,
do this, say this."
Not ever.
But I was still being
manipulated into
doing and saying things that
I didn't want to fáááing say.
- And now by them...
A little bit of Yolanda...
Of being manipulative.
- I think even Kim.
- Kyle has in the past.
- And Kyle.
- And Kyle.
- Being in a friendship with you
is like playing chess
with Bobby Fischer.
Every move is so
calculated about...
- Thanks, darling.
- Bobby Fischer, manipulative...
- Taylor.
- Why do you think
that your friends
are always accusing you
of being manipulative?
- I don't know.
I really don't know.
- You've had a lot
of accusations
thrown at you today.
- Yeah.
- Is there anyone that you
want to apologize to?
- No.
- Okay.
Lisa, you've known Rinna
for more than 25 years.
How do you think you can move
forward with your friendship?
- I don't know.
She seems so angry,
so I don't know.
- And I ask the same question
of you.
- [sighs] You know, I don't...
I'm not somebody
who holds grudges,
and I like to move
forward in life.
And I... and I... I mean I'm...
Life is just too short.
So, yeah, in the bigger picture,
I would like to move forward,
'cause I don't like
to hold grudges,
but I'm disappointed, you know.
I'm so disappointed and sad
that it would come to this.
- Well, I'm disappointed
in you too.
- Okay.
- Okay.
- I want to wrap this up.
We'll be back in a minute.
♪ ♪
Coming up...
- You don't know
what's going on.
I jumped in and was, you know...
Found out a lot of things
the hard way.
- Back in Beverly Hills
with the ladies.
I'm Andy Cohen.
Ladies, season six has been
one of the most memorable yet.
You went to the top
of the tallest building
in the world,
swam with sea lions,
welcomed new friends
into the fold,
and you did it all
with class and dignity...
mostly. [laughter]
I enjoyed every minute of it,
I have to say.
Kyle, you've been a Housewife
since the beginning.
What's your biggest
takeaway this year?
- Well, you know, I enjoyed
getting to meet the new girls.
Um, I really have.
And even though we've all
gone through difficult times,
I feel like each of these
moments make us closer.
And I feel like I learned
a lot about,
you know,
Yolanda and Lyme disease,
which is really important,
not just for us...
I think for everyone
to be there and to see that...
And that, you know,
not to sweat the small stuff.
- Yolanda, you've been through
so much this season.
So much.
Your life is in such
a different place.
Where do you go from here?
What's next for you?
- Keep going.
- Your life is at
a real crossroads.
- Yeah, no, I think I'm...
You just keep going.
I mean, for me, the only
important thing in my life
right now is to... to get well.
- Lisa Rinna, it's probably
fair to say
that you like asking questions.
Some of those questions
have gotten you
in some trouble this season.
Any regrets?
- You know, Andy, I never
have regrets in life,
because I learn.
I learn and hopefully grow
from my mistakes
and things that I say and do.
And I hope I've learned.
I hope I've become
a better person.
I hope I have done some good
in some way, shape, or form.
- Good.
- [laughs]
- Eileen, what's the verdict?
Does "Housewives"
trump "Daytime"
in the drama department?
- Oh, my God. [laughter]
You got to be joking.
There's no contest.
"Housewives" wins.
- Kathryn, was the experience
everything you thought
it would be?
- Oh, and then some.
[laughter] - So great.
- It's beyond anything
I expected.
- Erika, was the experience
everything you thought
it would be?
- Oh, yeah, uh-huh. 1,000%.
- Are you glad you did it?
- Sure.
I mean, I knew it was insanity.
I'm insane, so why not?
- Had you watched
the show before?
- No.
- [laughing]
- That's why I was like, "Yeah."
Until you go through it,
you don't really understand
that you don't know
what's going on.
I-I jumped in and was,
you know...
Found out a lot of things
the hard way.
- Vanderpump, how are you
feeling at the end of the day?
- Well, I'm just sorry if people
think I'm manipulative.
But, you know, I...
I wish I'd kind of had
a better understanding
of what Yolanda was
going through, really.
You know, maybe I wasn't
kind of that supportive,
you know, and I regret that.
But listen, we live and learn.
- So I want to end things
a little differently this time.
I want you to look to the person
on your right...
Erika, that'll be Kathryn.
- [laughs]
Sorry.
- You, that'll be Vanderpump.
And say in one word
their best quality.
- Fáááing hilarious.
- [laughing]
- Kyle?
- Integrity.
- Thank you. That means a lot.
Kindness.
- Thank you.
Sweetness.
- Aww.
- Genuine.
Honest.
Funny.
- Perfect.
Well, thank you, ladies.
And thanks for another
great season.
- Thanks, Andy.
- Can I borrow your dress?
- You can wear it every day.
- Thanks.
of "The Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills" reunion.
- What you did was a áááá move.
- So much smack.
- Whatever.
- If my husband did that,
I would...
- I would be appalled.
- I would be so appalled.
- I'm assuming you're a member
of the mile-high club.
- [giggling]
- Fáááing hilarious.
- Who ate the camel meat,
just you?
- It actually tasted
pretty good.
- Ugh!
- It was gray.
- Should I tell her that you
called her a harmless old lady?
- Can I have my moment, please?
- [sighs]
- Everyone has their issue.
No one's a fáááing angel here.
- Hey, guys, I'm drinking wine
and no one can say a damn thing.
[dramatic music]
- Eileen, Carolyn from
Estes Park, Colorado, said,
"Hold on, you didn't
want to talk about
"your past relationships,
"but what's the difference
between talking about the affair
and talking about being used?"
- That's what... I didn't
understand that either.
- The thing about being
in an abusive relation
was really about letting people
know who I am
and what I've been through.
And that's what it
was really about.
And I read your blog, and that
was incredibly offensive.
You spoke about how you had
been in an abusive relationship,
but you don't feel the need to...
- Yeah.
- To share it, and...
- And that's absolutely true.
- When were you in
an abusive relationship?
- Oh, my God.
I was 19.
- He hurt you?
- Once.
Sorry.
No, I don't want to cry.
I don't want to cry.
Once, then twice,
and then I left.
But over a little time.
You know what?
I don't think I've cried
about it since it happened,
and I don't think I've even
dwelt on it.
I kind of brought it up
because saying,
"I understood that."
And I walked away.
- I think it's so interesting
that you didn't share that
when she was sharing that.
That's what
I'm kind of reacting to.
- Because this is the... this is
what we long to see from her.
- Right.
- We want to share
those deep emotions.
I think that we all
feel the same about it.
- I've hardly even...
I don't think I've hardly
talked about it with Ken.
Maybe once. - Wow.
- We want to know that
you have those experiences,
because that's where we connect.
- It wasn't
a positive experience.
- No, but...
- It was something I did once.
- My Lyme disease is not
a positive experience.
- No, I know, but...
- You know what I mean?
- It was something
that happened.
- But you and Eileen would've
had a deep connection
just over this,
and you would've probably be
way ahead in your friendship.
- That's what I...
- But by you not sharing...
- That's what I was
curious about when...
When she revealed that
at that table,
and you were all sitting there.
- I've been in extremely
physically abusive
relationships.
♪ ♪
- I just...
- I don't...
- My husband was there.
I didn't feel...
- Right.
- It was the right...
- Space?
- Time.
- It's how people bond.
- Yeah, that's life.
- It's how people bond.
- That's how people bond.
- On a deeper level.
- Well, maybe I'm different.
And I'm a different person.
- But sometimes it's also a
protective mechanism for people.
- Of course, of course.
- No, of course.
But, you know, like we
always talk about...
What can we share
in order for us
to create deeper friendships?
- That's why I brought it up.
- Some of us are more
comfortable sharing than others.
- I've seen this side to her
more than a couple times now.
And I... it's probably why
I feel so close to you.
I've seen you like this,
and in...
Much more sensitive than this.
I've seen her to tears
more than a couple times.
When we all share those things
that make us very vulnerable...
- But do you think you need to?
- It makes us... it makes you
more human to all of us.
- You don't need to.
- It makes us like you more.
- You don't need to, Lisa,
but sometimes
when everyone thinks that
you are, um...
- Above it all.
- Not... maybe not even
above it all,
but just that no one
can get to you.
- Detached.
- Yes, maybe that's a word,
detached,
and that you're not
as vulnerable as we are
in the relationship.
It... there's a separation.
- Lisa's the first to admit
she likes to live
in a fantasy land
of everything happy and pink
and roses and ponies.
- Right.
- It didn't even really
come to my mind.
- Right.
- To suddenly say, "Well, let me
share this with you too."
I talked about...
At the Hero Dog Awards...
What kept me up at night:
the fact that I spent six months
dedicating my life
to opening this cause
and absolutely looked
at pictures over and over again
of the slaughter
of these poor dogs.
So I... yes, absolutely
been heartbroken over it...
Heartbroken.
- I think, also,
it's abundantly clear
that you have way more
empathy and feeling for animals
than you do for, like, the women
that are in this group.
I mean, that's how I feel.
- Well, I thank you for that.
- I mean, I feel that way.
- You've said a lot of nasty
things about me this season.
- Oh, I... I think that's...
- A lot of nasty things.
- I think that's
kind of obvious.
- I do have a lot of empathy
for animals,
and I do have a lot of empathy
for people I care about.
I really do.
- I don't think I've said
anything really that nasty.
I think I've been trying
to be extremely honest.
- Okay.
- And...
- Well, it's hurt my feelings.
- Well, I'm sorry. I really am.
I'm very, very sorry
to hurt your feelings.
- You know what's interesting,
though, that just happened?
When you just said
your feelings were hurt,
she apologized, like,
within one second.
- Yeah, and I'm sincere.
- Which is kind of what
she was looking for from you.
- That much would make me go,
"Oh, I can relate to this person
as another human being."
I wasn't even getting that.
- Do you have a hard time
saying you're sorry?
- I don't know.
- Yolanda's nodding.
- Well, I think... I think you do.
It's nothing new,
you know what I mean?
- No, it's nothing new.
- So do you think you have
a hard time saying, "I'm sorry"?
- Well, if everybody says that,
then I must do, but I thought...
- You don't see it in yourself?
- Uh...
- And that's okay too.
I mean...
- You know what really
bothers me about this?
- I think Erika
brought it up this year.
- Can I say what bothers me
about this entire thing?
I feel like I've become
a bitch through this,
and it was really
never my intention.
I am not the kind of person
that wants to cause trouble
or seeks trouble out.
I really try to resolve sháá.
- And get clarity.
- And to find myself in this
was very disturbing for me.
But I really felt,
the way you treated me,
I had no recourse.
I had to stand up for myself,
and I had to speak my truth.
I never meant this to be, like,
a gang of five on you, Lisa.
But the more I saw
how you behaved
and you deflected and you acted,
the more pissed off I got.
Do you admit that you do that?
- What?
- I don't think that you...
I think that it's...
- Do what?
- Really lost in translation.
I don't think... I don't think...
- Okay.
I'm not sure that's...
I'm not sure that's true.
But okay.
- Well, when Erika
spoke with Kathryn
about Lisa Vanderpump,
Erika assumed the conversation
was private.
But Kathryn had other ideas,
and soon the two women
were caught in a bigger web
than even Lisa Vanderpump
could spin.
Take a look.
- You're too nice, and you're
taken advantage of.
- Advantage of, and then
if you're too mean,
then you're a áááá.
- Oh, I hate that word.
Don't say that word.
- You do?
- Tell me about you.
Do you have women friends?
- I had never been
well-liked by women.
- I will be your first
genuine woman friend.
- I want really good women
in my life,
not just any old broad
that comes in.
What do you think
of Lisa Vanderpump?
- She's the nice...
She's so sw... she...
- [laughing] She's smart.
I think she's a sniper
from the side.
I think she doesn't want
to leave any fingerprints.
- I had lunch with Erika.
She started talking
about Vanderpump.
And she said,
"Don't let her steer you,
and don't get
caught in her web."
- Honestly, I thought we had
spoken in confidence,
so I'm a little disappointed.
- That's on you.
I can keep a secret,
but if you don't
want it repeated,
you don't say it.
- You know what?
I was really hurt by the fact
you came to my house,
and you said, "Hey,
I want to be your friend."
And then you tell her this...
- You said, "Oh, the web."
What's the web bullsháá?
Really? It's nonsense.
It is nonsense.
- It's not nonsense.
Don't roll your eyes.
- But wait a minute now.
- Whoa, time out.
I'm not finished with my...
- Okay, well, fine.
- I would never come
to someone's home,
meet someone's husband
for the first time,
and acting like a fáááing ass.
- Listen, I'll...
- We're trying to have
a nice dinner party.
My husband doesn't know you.
- I didn't break...
- He's trying to get
to know you.
- I thought your husband
was lovely.
- He is lovely,
but how would you know?
'Cause you talked
the whole fáááing night.
- Okay, I offended Erika.
I will own it. I'll apologize.
I say to you, Erika, I'm sorry
that I caused problems.
- Can I give you a hug, Erika?
- Yes.
All: Aww.
- I don't really give
second chances.
But Kathryn apologized.
- We're good, right?
- We're not talking... yes.
- Okay.
- There won't be a third chance.
I'm glad that we got past
our differences and we moved on.
- Me too.
- Happy birthday.
[glasses clinking]
- Thank you, sweetie.
I feel beautiful.
- Shane from
Rockville, Maryland, wonders,
"Kathryn, where do you get off
telling Erika
not to say the C-word?"
- For me, it caught me
off guard.
I'm still an old-fashioned girl,
and I was raised that
you never use that word.
And when I hear it, it's like,
[gasps] "Oh, my God.
Don't say it. Don't say that."
Like, that's just horrible.
- Who here thinks it's okay
to say the C-word?
- I think the way
she says it is fine.
I mean, she...
- I have a nasty mouth.
- You know, it doesn't...
- I say everything.
But, you know, like...
Like Lisa knows,
when Brandi first started
using that word,
it was, for me, more shocking.
- No, no, meaning, you know...
- She said that she liked you.
Like, you're, like, a good áááá.
- What did you just say?
- You're a good one.
Like, ááááá in a good way.
- Oh, for God's sake, Brandi.
- That was the first time
I heard...
- I hate that word. I hate it.
And I might use other words.
- But I don't judge.
- But I don't like that word.
I think that's really
kind of degrading.
- Lisa Vanderpump, you say
the word "pussy" all the time.
- Yeah, in England,
"pussy" isn't such a...
I grew up hearing that word.
- Oh, my God, Sophia just
had her hair turned pink.
- No.
- Yeah, today.
- I had everything done pink.
Like the pussy, as well.
- You don't even have... what?
- Yes.
- Did you just say the P-word?
- It's light pink. Yes.
You're allowed to say that
in England.
- In the moment when I objected
to Erika using the word,
it was, oh, if someone's
being rude, she's a áááá.
And to me...
- Well, that's different.
- Well, that's how she said it.
And that's when I said,
"No, don't say that.
Don't use that word."
That is exactly the context
that it was used in.
- All right, Kathryn Peete
from Fort Smith, Arkansas,
said, "You told Erika you wanted
to be her friend
"and for her to trust you.
"Then you betrayed her
to Lisa Vanderpump.
Do you see how horrible you are,
or should I point it out?"
- I don't think
I'm a horrible person.
I definitely should've
handled it differently.
In hindsight,
I should have stopped you
when you were saying the things
that you were saying
and said I didn't like that,
and I didn't want to take that.
And I didn't want you
to say that in front of me.
- Or you could've just
kept it and not said anything.
- That would've made me feel,
when the show aired,
that I was being dishonest.
I don't... I don't roll
like that, Erika.
I don't. I don't.
I would've been co-signing.
- But you just told me
you wanted to be my friend.
- But I told you I wanted
to be your friend
before you started talking
all that smack,
and there was, like,
20 minutes in between.
- It's not smack.
It's my opinion...
My in-person observation.
- What if you had just said,
"Well, I disagree with you,"
and said why you...
- That's what I said I wish
I would've done.
I wish I would've said,
"I disagree with you."
- But you didn't.
But you didn't do that.
- Nope, nope.
- You listened with intent,
you came there,
and then immediately ran to her
and told.
And then you admitted it
at my house
that you did it to get
a reaction out of me.
And you did not conduct yourself
the best way at my house.
She even agrees.
The audience agrees.
- Well, that... that...
- And did I tell her that you
called her a harmless old lady?
- [sighs]
[exciting music]
- Coming up...
- I've seen your
sit-down interviews
calling me a fáááing áááá
after it.
- Yeah, because you know what?
That was a áááá move.
What you did was a áááá move.
- Should I tell her that you
called her a harmless old lady?
- Who?
- Her.
- When did I call Vanderpump...
- On the phone.
- To who?
- To me.
- Never a harmless old lady.
- Oh, Kathryn.
Oh, no, no, no.
- A harmless old lady?
- Oh, no, no, no, Kathryn,
we had a conversation.
- Harmless old...
- You called her
a harmless old lady.
Swear on my son's life.
- Swear on the Bible.
- No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- Oh, please, Erika,
give me a break.
- Absolutely not. No.
- This is like a desperate...
- You're desperate, honey.
Not me. No, no, no.
- I don't call anyone harmless,
and I don't call people
old ladies.
- Are you a harmless old lady?
- You do.
You called her an old lady.
- She's not old.
- Every single night in Dubai.
- When was that?
- Or harmless.
- When we were sitting
at the dinner table.
It was... you talked
so much smack.
I didn't repeat a tenth
of the stuff you said.
- No, not true, Kathryn.
You came to my house
with ill intent,
and this is where it ends up.
- Now you're changing
the subject,
because you know what?
- Not changing any subject.
Keep going.
- No, Erika.
- Keep going.
- You talk so much smack
about everybody,
except Yolanda.
So much smack.
- Kathryn, whatever. What is...
- What whatever?
- Where... what is it?
- No, no, no, no, no, no.
- Tell me the words.
- Not whatever.
- Give me the words.
- You call all of us old ladies.
Almost every night when
we'd come back in Dubai,
it was just, "Blah, blah,
everyone... no one has taste.
"No one dresses well.
No one's hair looks good.
No one's makeup looks good."
I've seen your
sit-down interviews
calling me a fáááing áááá
after it.
- Yeah, because you know what?
That was a áááá move.
What you did was a áááá move.
That's right, you don't come
to someone's home...
- A fáááing áááá.
- Do that.
You don't.
- In Kathryn's defense,
when she did tell me,
it was only a little bit.
She said, "Don't get caught
in the web."
- Uh, let me ask this.
- You didn't...
You barely knew me.
- That's just my
in-person observation
of what you done to Eileen
in the Hamptons...
- What did I...
- And what was going on
with, uh,
her and the kids
at the barbecue.
That's why I said it.
- But you weren't there when
Eileen and I had a conversation.
- She was, actually.
- I was.
- And I saw you
intently watching.
You know, I'm trying to,
like, get past it.
- We all love each other,
and that's...
- But you did say to me, "So is
that when the affair started?"
- Okay, don't worry about it.
- Who thinks Kathryn was wrong
to take what Erika said
and bring it to Lisa Vanderpump?
- Me, me.
- You do too?
- I do.
- Yeah, probably.
- Of course.
- Yeah, that was wrong.
- I've owned it.
I told you guys.
- I told you that.
- I handled it wrong, 100%.
- Yolanda, the day
you picnicked in the park,
you agreed with Erika
about Lisa Vanderpump
spinning webs.
- Lisa's very smart.
And sometimes, you know,
like with Brandi...
That was Brandi's
biggest complaint,
was that she felt that Lisa
would set her up
in certain situations.
- Oh, please.
Brandi's got such a mouth.
Sorry.
- Lisa, I'm just... I'm just
trying to answer the question.
I'm just... you know what I mean?
So I've heard it before
in the group.
She hasn't done it
with me personally,
but I've heard... I've seen it.
- Lisa, Raina from
Bowling Green, Kentucky, said,
"Tom compared you
to an alligator
"waiting to attack its prey,
and you thought it was great."
- You know what?
You remind me a little bit...
Not looks-wise...
Of an alligator.
- [laughing]
- "And you took offense to Erika
comparing you to a spider
spinning its web."
- Now, hold on a second.
When we were out for dinner
and he said that,
of course I didn't like it,
and Ken didn't like it at all.
But he was so sweet,
and he was charming,
and he was playing with me...
- He was playing with you.
- And even when...
Yeah, I don't want
to say anything bad about him,
but even when I sat down
at dinner,
he said, "You're my only
worthy opponent."
So he's kind of
sparring with me a bit.
Of course it was a bit rude,
but hey, I was out
for a laugh with him.
- But you know what?
Lisa's tough, and Tom actually...
- I'm not that tough, actually.
I'm not as tough as you
think I am.
When I saw you say,
"Oh, sniper,"
that kind of thing
really hurts my feelings.
- Well, I'm very sorry it does.
- That's okay.
- Those are my feelings.
- That's okay.
- She's never said a bad word
about anyone.
And as much as she's supposedly
this big manipulator,
I've never heard her say
one bad word about anyone.
- I'm not saying any
sháá about them.
I don't need to.
- Eileen, Juanita from
San Antonio, Texas, said,
"The web thing was between
Erika and Kathryn.
"At the Habitat for Humanity
house,
"why were you stirring up sháá
when you should have been
stirring paint?"
- [sighs] I was doing both.
- I'm actually glad
she was doing it.
- I was doing both that day.
- You are?
- Yes, because we came
to a resolution, which stuck.
- Thank you.
- Yes.
- I'm so happy to hear that.
- So thank you.
I'm sorry.
- No, it's true... it was true.
- It wasn't really about
sháá-stirring.
- We were able to get past it.
- And we never argued again.
- Never.
- Erika, you forgave Kathryn.
Will you ever confide
in her again?
- I mean, listen... and I've
said this many times...
Kathryn and I are on the road
to a real friendship.
We got off to a bad start.
She apologized.
I accepted. We're moving on.
- Very good.
The viewers have no lack
of opinions.
One in Encino, California,
had so many, in fact,
she sent in a video.
Take a look at what
she had to say.
- Hey, guys, I'm drinking wine,
and no one can say a damn thing.
How's it going?
I've been watching you.
It's so amazing to be a viewer.
Kyle, you and I have had
some fun times together.
I have an odd soft spot for you,
because I know you can be good.
- That doesn't make sense, so...
- Yeah.
- You are one person when
you're around Vanderpump,
and you're a completely
other person
when she's not in your life.
And I like you when
she's not in your life.
Kathryn, I like younger men too.
Your husband's hot.
Good for you.
I want to say I'm sorry
to Eileen.
I really didn't think
you had it in you
to man up and call BS on LVP.
- [sighs]
- And your hair looks
amazing this season.
I don't know who's doing it now,
but you need to get Rinna
on that bandwagon.
- Why are we giving her
a platform?
She's not on the show.
What... just to sit there, and we
can't even answer her back?
- Hold on, we'll talk about it.
- Rinna, the truth is,
you're not bipolar.
You're just, like, seriously
nuttier than squirrel sháá.
Like, bat-sháá crazy.
I'm so sick of you saying,
"Own your sháá and deflect."
Those... you can't
say that anymore.
I knew I loved Erika
the second she called Lisa
a sniper from the side,
because she is on point.
And it only took me
five years to figure that out.
Like, literally knew in a second
and read that bitch.
Lisa Vanderpump,
you are genius, obviously, um...
- I don't know.
- At changing the narrative.
- We could all be brave and sit
there with a glass of wine
and film us and throw
the crap out there.
- You were unfortunately
a puppeteer for me.
You manipulated me.
- Oh, please.
Who can pull her strings?
- And I did do your dirty work
for you.
And I'm sorry for that, and
that will never happen again.
- You know, I think to sit there
and have a go at all of us...
Are we allowed to do that?
- Cheers, bitches.
- She was fired from the show.
And so we're allowed to do that
and just put it out there
with a glass of wine
and insult everybody?
Really, Andy?
- Well, all of you have...
- She always says I talk
about her on the show,
but all she does is watch
the show and tweet about it.
- Sure, but we
don't talk about...
All she does is tweet about it.
I don't even follow her
on Twitter.
- She says we speak about her.
Get over it.
And she speaks about us
all the time.
- She would say you all
bring her up.
- What's your point?
- Everybody does.
She still does? Whatever.
Who cares?
- Why does she think
you're a different person
around Vanderpump?
- 'Cause she doesn't like us
being friends.
- She doesn't like it.
Tried to split us up.
- She paid you a compliment
and apologized to you.
- Yeah.
- Do you accept her apology?
- Sure.
[laughter] - Sure.
Lisa Rinna, what did you think
about what she said?
- Mmm, who?
- Exactly.
- Yolanda, what's your reaction
to what Brandi had to say?
- You know,
I think it's only fair
that, you know,
if Kim gets to come here
and have her space to speak,
I think it's fair that Brandi
got it this way, so...
- It's not that it's about fair.
It's how she talks every time.
- I'm answering... I'm answering
Andy's question.
- So derogatory.
- I know, and I'm giving
my opinion,
'cause that's what
we're supposed to do here.
- You have the opportunity
to have the last word here.
- I'm just saying... no, but she's
always so derogatory
about everything.
There's always an angle,
and I'm just glad
it's not part of my life.
I'm asked questions
about her constantly.
"So, are you gonna
make up for it?"
I don't even want
to talk about it.
I don't even think about it.
She's just ridiculous, so,
no, I wish her well.
Go play with somebody else.
[dramatic music]
- Coming up...
Talking about
the mile-high club,
most of you are members.
- [whistles]
[upbeat music]
- When it comes to wealth,
nothing tops Beverly Hills.
The jewels are pricey,
the ponies are mini,
and the travel is better
than first class.
Take a look.
♪ ♪
- Ooh, I love a white Rolls.
[people chattering]
- Oh!
- Oh, Harry.
- These earrings are big,
fat, fáááing diamonds...
Like, sinful, big, fat,
fáááing diamonds.
- [gasps]
No, I can't even take it.
Excuse me.
- No, stop the madness.
- Little horses, little horses.
Please come love me. [laughs]
♪ ♪
- The yacht is absolutely
beautiful.
It has five bedrooms,
a media room...
- All right,
shouldn't we jump on?
I rent this bus
for when I do shows.
- I call top bunk.
- I want top bunk too.
I don't have my own tour bus,
because most of the time,
it's not feasible
to have a tour bus.
I just fly.
On my plane.
♪ ♪
- This is the master bedroom.
This is the royal suite room.
This is the most expensive one.
- This is our room?
- Yes.
- I thought it was a lobby.
- We're in the most expensive?
- Yes.
- [gasps]
- We're just...
- Oh, the sharks are there.
[all screaming]
♪ ♪
- Look at those lashes.
They put yours to shame.
- I was gonna save you
some camel meat.
- Oh, no.
I'm not eating a camel.
- Little gamey, but there's
a lot of good seasonings in it.
The camel meat is good.
It kind of tastes like chicken.
[camel grunts]
- There's one less camel
over there.
- Oh, my God.
So who ate the camel meat?
Just you? - Uh-huh.
- How was it?
- It actually tasted
pretty good.
- Ugh!
- It was gray.
- I, I...
- It was gray.
- It was. It was gray.
- You all visited each other's
rooms in Dubai.
Who do you think
had the best room?
- Lisa and Kyle.
- Oh, yeah, Lisa and Kyle.
- Come on.
- Your suite was
40 grand a night.
- Yeah.
- 40 grand a night!
- I mean, unbelievable.
But it something like
10,000 square foot.
- I actually think Eileen's room
was the most amazing.
Sleeping with a shark.
- Now, I've got to tell you,
quite honestly,
it was so comforting.
- Yeah.
- It was like being in a cave
or a safe womb.
And the colors were so tranquil.
- I would feel claustrophobic.
- The best part, though,
was they promised
that nobody could see
into the room.
- I know!
- In the... the diver?
- Yes!
- They told me...
They said, "They can't see in,"
so I see somebody
cleaning the windows,
and I'm like,
"Well, he can't see me."
I'm in a robe, in bed.
And then I go into the bathroom,
and I look back, and he goes...
[laughter]
- That was amazing.
- That's funny.
- We were dying laughing.
- That is funny.
Erika, how often do you fly?
- The plane is really tops,
I mean, for business.
So if I get on there, I'm lucky.
- What was wrong
with that tea bag?
- Victoria, honey.
What happened to this tea bag?
- Oh.
- Can we have a new one, baby?
It was open on the side,
so all the tea was spilling out.
- Ugh.
- I know.
- I mean, the travesty.
- Devastating.
- Oh, my God.
- Victoria!
Listen, let me tell you
something, though.
Anybody who flies private
knows that that is nothing
compared to what
those chicks see.
They have seen everything
in the air.
- Oh, yeah.
- Oh, of course.
- I'm assuming you're a member
of the mile-high club.
- I'll plead the fifth.
- [giggling]
- If you're talking about
the mile-high club,
most of you are members.
- [whistling]
- I'm actually not.
- I'm not.
- Really?
- I'm not.
- Oh.
- No.
- Some friendships look better
through rosé-colored glasses.
And between the two of them,
Kyle and Lisa Rinna
have more than 30 years of bliss
with Lisa Vanderpump.
But when the glasses came off,
things got a little less rosy.
Take a look.
- Hold on tight, Vanderpump.
- Whoo!
- Yeah, exactly, come on!
- Are you jealous of these?
- Mine are real gold.
I know yours are too.
Lisa and I have fun
like nobody else,
and that is what we both
missed about each other.
- Hot, hot.
- Oh! Oh, my God.
Look at those shoes.
I like to be around
sparkly things,
so she's fun to be around.
She's always a good time.
- Is she better now?
I'm confused.
- True Munchausen Syndrome.
Those affected feign disease
to draw attention to themselves.
- I had not heard the word
"Munchausen's"
until Lisa Rinna brought it up.
I mean, that's a serious word.
She came upstairs,
and she said...
I said, "Oh"...
To Lisa, "Oh, my God,
that Munchausen's...
Such a big word."
I thought you were gonna
throw Kyle in it, like, "Phew,".
Like, I thought you were
gonna drag me into it.
- Why would I drag you into it?
- Why would Lisa Vanderpump
say to me,
"Why didn't you bring
Kyle into it?"
And then why would she
say to Kyle,
"Phew, I thought Lisa Rinna
was gonna bring you into it"?
She's caught.
- That's not making sense, which
is why I'm trying to tell you...
Let me help you as your friend.
Change your story right now.
- Okay, okay.
No, I'm not changing my story.
- Change it.
I'm sticking with the truth.
- That's not the truth!
- Kyle appears to always
have to please Lisa Vanderpump
to keep their friendship afloat.
If that's not tragic,
I don't know what is.
- You're not making sense.
- Oh, my God.
- You got to say something else.
Please, please help justify
me sitting here sticking by you.
- Okay, okay.
I'm not okay with that.
- I will not fáááing tell a lie!
And you know what?
To me, our friendship's
too important.
- I'm not asking you
to tell a lie.
That's not fair.
- No, I'm asking you
not to tell one.
- So, Kyle,
this friendship with Lisa,
which has been through
kind of a rollercoaster ride,
clearly means a lot to you.
- Yes, it does.
But I mean, it is
a rollercoaster ride.
You know, especially it's
focused on when we had issues.
But we've had, you know, far
more good times than bad times.
- It seems like in Dubai
and elsewhere this season,
you have been firmly
on the side of,
"I want to do whatever it takes
to keep my friendship
with Vanderpump."
- Well, I love her.
And, you know...
And I think she loves me.
I know... I know she loves me.
- You know she...
- Yeah, I know she loves me.
And her friendship's
important to me,
not because, you know...
I mean, I know Lisa Rinna
accused me of kissing her ass,
but I know that if I were
going through a hard time
that she'd be there for me.
So you know what?
I-I don't know what to say.
- And how would you describe
your friendship with Vanderpump?
- You know, it's, it's...
It's changed.
It's rolled around.
It's gone up. It's gone down.
It was really fun last year,
and we started out
having fun this year,
and then, um, as you can see,
it changed.
- I have to say, the two of you
are very fun to watch together.
I mean, you have
a funny relationship, and...
- Because we speak, like,
every few days.
And literally, she'll phone me.
I mean, that's even
when we talked about
the pictures, you know.
I mean, it was good-hearted,
light-hearted fun.
- You laughed about
what pictures?
Me being on an IV?
- No, but I'm saying that
when your head was popping out
of the toaster or something,
and she sent it or whatever.
And we laughed, you know.
Yeah, we did. I mean, I'm sorry.
We told you that.
- I'm glad... I'm glad
you thought that was funny.
- Sure, it doesn't come off
great to you when you hear that,
but I'm being honest.
Did I... - Yeah.
- Did I, like... "Oh, my gosh,
what is this Instagram post"?
Yes, 'cause some of them
were outrageous.
- Kyle, Darren from
Vail, Colorado, said,
"Lisa told Ken
she didn't complain
"about her room in Italy,
"which she said was
smaller than her closet.
What did you think
when you heard that?"
- I gave her a nice room,
and she doesn't like
to share a bathroom.
- Ken is sometimes
very opinionated
when it comes to your friends,
especially if
they've ever upset you.
- Mm-hmm.
- I mean, really, he...
And this has been
a common theme for years.
- I can't change him.
- In the final episode,
he called Lisa Rinna
a "stupid bitch,"
among other things.
- Rinna just kept going at me.
"You're a liar, and own it."
- Come on.
- I... listen, and then I...
- What are you giving her
any credence for?
She's a fáááing stupid bitch.
- He's gonna have a reaction.
What am I gonna do,
not discuss it with him?
- But you don't... but again,
you don't go to another woman
and call her...
- But that's up to him.
- Those kind of names.
- That's up to him.
- Well, that's your husband!
If my husband did that about any
of you women, I would...
- I would be appalled.
- I would be so appalled.
- If my husband said that
about another woman...
- I would vomit,
I would be so appalled.
- Are you appalled?
[dramatic music]
Coming up...
- You guys can't figure out,
am I a people pleaser,
or am I bipolar crazy
and a crazy bitch.
- If my husband did that about
any of you women, I would...
- I would be appalled.
- I would be so appalled.
- If my husband said that
about another woman...
- I would vomit,
I would be so appalled.
- Are you appalled?
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- No.
He felt that way. He was upset.
- Shall I just say what your
husband called me on camera?
- Yeah, and he felt that way.
- I want to read it.
- By the way,
if we're telling the truth.
- Okay, if we're telling
the truth.
Ken called me a stupid bitch.
- Yeah.
- A silly cow,
not the full ticket,
a wanker, crazy, stupid...
- Wanker... I don't think he'd
use the word wanker.
- Yeah, he did.
- He did.
- Just laugh at the silly cow.
She's not the full ticket.
I'm telling you,
she's not the full ticket.
I feel sorry for her.
Oh, what a wanker.
- [laughing]
You cannot say that.
- Oh, of course I can say it.
They're so stupid.
- Ken was pissed off.
I mean, she just said...
[overlapping speech]
- Ken is not part of this cast.
- Let me ask you a question.
- Yes?
- If Harry Hamlin called you
a stupid bitch
and a wanker, and...
- Not wanker.
- He would never do that.
- You don't call a woman
a wanker, so...
- Uh, I wrote it down!
- Okay, well, it doesn't even...
It's not even a bad word.
Whatever, yeah
- If Harry Hamlin called you
that list of names...
- Yeah, I'd be pissed off.
- It was disturbingly insulting.
- So do you think
Ken owes her an apology, or...
- Maybe he does.
- He wouldn't.
This is the same thing
that happened two years ago,
and it wasn't about Ken.
It was about our difference,
and Ken interfered
dis-aggressively in me.
- Well, I was talking to Ken.
- Ken, why are you getting
involved?
- What do you mean, why am I
getting involved?
Don't be so stupid.
- Don't call me stupid.
- You just went out there
and just... oh, come on.
- Who do you think you are
to call me stupid?
That is unacceptable.
- He said Yolanda looked
terrible without makeup...
- Yeah, but that's not...
- At Lisa Rinna's
birthday party.
- But that was... she looked ill.
- I told her she looked better.
She didn't.
Promise you,
she did not look better.
- No.
- She looked terrible.
- She looked great, though.
I thought she looked
really good.
- No, I... see, that...
- She did.
- What I saw was not
the Yolanda I know.
And it's not saying
she looks terrible,
like, to her face.
But I said to her, "Oh,
you look so much better now."
- She looked great, but for Ken
to say, no, she looked awful...
- She did.
- No, she didn't.
- He questioned Kyle...
- No, she didn't.
I thought she looked ill.
- Well, she was ill.
- She didn't look awful.
She didn't look awful, though.
- She was ill.
- Yeah.
- She was ill.
- That's exactly right.
- Uh, he questioned
Kyle's sense of fashion
because of her fondness
for muumuus.
- This is good
for the wedding, right?
It's, like, a black tie wedding.
- For Kyle?
- Yeah.
- She's not used to something
as fashionable as that.
- Oh, shut up. You are so mean.
- Haven't you got a muumuu?
She loves those.
- They're caftans, everybody.
- They're muumuus.
- They're not. They're caftans.
- Erika, um, you called
Lisa Vanderpump a diva.
- Oh, that's a compliment.
All right, diva, well, listen.
I will see you...
- Did you call me diva, darling?
- I did.
I hope you take it
as a compliment,
because I mean it.
- Oh, well, you got
the memo, then.
[laughter]
- Hey, miss a beat, Erika.
- Yeah, but she said it in
a lighthearted way on the phone.
- 1,000%.
- She was just, "Hello, diva."
- Rinna, Eileen first
referred to Vanderpump
as a manipulator, and then...
- For the last few months.
- Right.
- You eventually said
you understood
what she was talking about.
You said that she called
and texted you
what to talk about.
- Who?
- What did she tell you to say?
- Well, then Munchausen, and...
- I did not.
- She called to prod me to be
more upset about the bipolar,
which the truth was,
I really wasn't.
- What happened in Amsterdam
shocked me.
I'm not gonna lie.
I could clearly label her
unstable or bipolar.
I would never do that.
- You're 50...
Whatever, like, two.
Well, yeah, 52 years old.
I mean, don't you
speak your mind?
- Are you easily manipulated?
- Are you serious?
- I don't know,
I mean, maybe, um,
I was a little bit.
Maybe. I don't know.
I'm not usually
easily manipulated.
- Kathryn, do you think
Lisa Rinna
is easily manipulated?
- I think the word
that you used before
is that you're a people pleaser.
- Well, I don't like the word
people pleaser, really.
I... I don't...
I don't see myself as...
I mean, you guys
can't figure out,
am I a people pleaser, or am I
bipolar crazy and a crazy bitch?
- Oh, nobody ever said...
- You know, aggressive and all.
- I think you were afraid
of Lisa Vanderpump.
- You said Vanderpump and Kyle
were sending pictures
of Yolanda back and forth...
- They were.
- And talking about Munchausen
before you said it on camera.
- Well, let me clarify.
- No, no, no, no.
- Let me clarify... we all talked
about the Munchausen.
- Yes, but who brought it up?
- I did.
- Rinna, who brought it up?
- But you knew about it.
- No, no. [overlapping speech]
That's not fair.
- You did too!
You fáááing called me
on the phone.
- Hold on, Rinna, Rinna...
- Oh, my God.
- Rinna, Rinna, Rinna.
- Sorry.
- Let's back up, you and me.
Rinna... - You did.
- The first time I ever
heard the word
was at SHU sitting with Jana...
- Okay, SHU, Spin, whatever.
- But I said to you,
"No, that's about children."
And you said, "No, no, no.
That's Munchausen's by proxy."
- Okay, all I'm saying is,
you knew about it.
- And you'd explained it...
- Munchausen syndrome.
It's related to Munchausen
by proxy, which is a whole...
- That's what I just said.
I've heard of Munchausen
by proxy.
- It's you.
- You told... I never heard
the word Munchausen
till you brought it up.
Why'd you say we did it?
- But no, I did...
- Her point is, you were
having discussions about it
before she ever brought it up
on camera.
- Yes.
- Just... never with
Lisa Vanderpump.
You and me only at, uh, dinner.
- But she knew about it.
How does she know about it?
Because then she called me.
- Maybe she'd mentioned
it to me.
- Yeah, okay.
- But I never thought
Munchausen...
- Maybe I did. I don't remember.
- You didn't bring it up. I did.
- We did not bring it up
first, correct?
- Yes.
- Thank you, done.
- In Dubai, Lisa Rinna,
you claimed you caught
Lisa Vanderpump lying
about whether or not
she thought you
should bring Kyle
into the Munchausen
conversation.
- That is correct.
That is absolutely correct.
- So basically, what do you feel
that Lisa Vanderpump
said to you in the driveway?
- I don't feel anything.
I'll tell you exactly.
- Okay.
- I left.
She came running out after me
and said...
- I always say good-byes.
- Can I have my moment, please?
- Yeah, sure.
- Okay, ready? Okay.
- She came running out after me
and said,
"Why didn't you bring
Kyle into it?"
- I thought you were gonna
drag Kyle into it.
I thought she was gonna
drag us all into it.
- So why wouldn't
you have said that?
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Coming up...
- If she's manipulative
at times, whatever.
I think a lot of women are.
But it's also very mean
at times.
Like, everyone's...
Everyone has their issue.
No one's a fáááing angel here.
- I said I thought you were
gonna drag Kyle into it.
I thought she was gonna
drag us all into it.
- So why wouldn't
you have said that?
[dramatic music]
Why would you say Kyle?
- Why would she?
Why would she drag you
all into it?
- Yeah, why would I?
- Because she said
we've all been talking
about it like this when she was
reading the Munchausen's.
- Right, and you went upstairs...
- Kyle was still there.
- So yeah, and then
I said to Kyle,
"I thought she was gonna
drag you into it."
- It's not going to be any
different than it was in Dubai.
- I know. It's the same.
- I said that, but she's just...
- And so what does that mean?
- It's just gonna be the same.
- Well, I said to her,
"Why would say just me?"
- I said, "Because you've
gone backwards and forwards."
- And I said, "Cause if you
think you're gonna just, like,
"try to, like, drag me
into it without you,
"I would take you down
in fáááing flames,
"because I only talked
about the Instagram post,
nothing else."
It had nothing to do
with Munchausen's.
So that's what I said.
- And you feel
that this proves...
- Well...
- She was wondering why Kyle
wasn't being brought
into the whole Munchausen thing
and being responsible
for saying it as well.
- I was owning it myself.
- I thought when you said we've
all been talking about it,
you'd have much more
contact with Kyle,
talking about Instagram posts
and things like that.
- But I didn't bring
anybody into it.
- A little bit more, because...
- You never brought
anybody into it.
- I didn't bring
anybody into it.
I sat there,
and I did it myself.
- And you felt so bad,
because it was on her.
- And you said to me,
"What should I do?"
And I said, "You know what,
Lisa, you don't speak
from your own perspective."
- Oh, here we go.
Deflect, deflect, deflect.
What are you talking about?
Now you're gonna make
everybody crazy.
It's called gas-lighting.
So you make everybody
think that they're crazy.
- She's not a liar.
She's not a liar, Lisa.
- You know what?
- Yolanda, Erika told you
that she believed
Lisa Rinna's account of that day
at Lisa Vanderpump's.
Who do you believe and why?
- It's all confusing to me.
You know what I mean?
- I don't lie, though.
I don't lie.
- I don't think that...
- I don't lie.
- I'm gonna go with Eileen,
and I'm gonna go with her
instinct and her experience
from that, because she was
never the one
to bring up this conversation,
so I feel...
- I have nothing to gain.
- And she was there that day.
- I have nothing to gain.
- She came in, and she saw
how upset I was.
She saw it. - I wouldn't say it.
If I said to Kyle...
- I think it's that
you brought it up...
You brought up Kyle's name
to both of them.
- But why to Kyle?
- To Kyle and to...
- 'Cause are you trying to pit
people against one another?
I don't know, what are you
trying to do?
- Kyle knows that Lisa's
capable of that.
- Kyle, you know, 'cause she
went to you and said,
"I thought Lisa was
gonna be new to it."
- I said that?
Why would I say that
to her if I...
- So then, Kyle, where do you...
Where do you stand?
- I just don't think
this is that...
I mean, I honestly don't feel
like this is that big of a deal.
- I do.
- I had a conversation
about that.
I know you do, Lisa.
We talked about this
on the boat in Dubai.
- I actually wondered
if she was gonna bring us
all into it... that's it.
- You didn't say that, though.
- But that's how I felt.
- That's not what you said!
I think this is more
your issue with Lisa than...
And I don't know why...
- Well, I guess what it is
is that...
- It feels like it's trying
to make a problem with us.
Like, if you have an issue...
- Well, I'm not.
[overlapping speech]
- You're totally missing
the point.
- Be friends.
- You're totally missing
the point.
You basically said that
Lisa Rinna was right, correct?
- I spoke my truth on the boat.
- Well, how would she know?
- And so now we rest our case.
- I spoke my truth on the boat.
- It's that simple.
That's okay, I don't want you
not to be friends.
Be friends.
- I just feel like
it's getting...
- Did you speak your truth,
or did you speak the truth?
- I did.
What do you mean, the what?
- That's the truth, correct?
It's not your version of events.
It's the truth.
- I spoke the truth.
- Why would you say
to Lisa Vanderpump,
"I'll take you down
in fáááing flames with me"?
That means something's
pretty intense.
- When I said "take you down
in flames,"
do I really mean I want
to take her down in flames?
No, but yes, I was annoyed
that my name got brought up.
- Okay.
- Well, Miranda
from Los Angles said,
"Kyle clearly suffers
from Stockholm Syndrome."
- What's Stockholm Syndrome?
- "Constantly abused
by her sisters,
"and Lisa Vanderpump
has a history
"of poking her when she's down.
Lisa doesn't treat her well,
and Kyle's okay with that."
- That's not... I don't...
You know what?
Maybe I feel like it's just
not that big of a deal.
If she's manipulative
at times, whatever.
I think a lot of women are,
especially smart women.
But it's also very mean
at times.
Like, everyone's...
Everyone has their issue.
No one's a fáááing angel here.
- [laughs]
- When you look back
at the seasons...
- Yeah.
- It seems like you have
been accused by Brandi...
- Lisa's never once asked me
to say anything for her.
Never said, "Brandi,
do this, say this."
Not ever.
But I was still being
manipulated into
doing and saying things that
I didn't want to fáááing say.
- And now by them...
A little bit of Yolanda...
Of being manipulative.
- I think even Kim.
- Kyle has in the past.
- And Kyle.
- And Kyle.
- Being in a friendship with you
is like playing chess
with Bobby Fischer.
Every move is so
calculated about...
- Thanks, darling.
- Bobby Fischer, manipulative...
- Taylor.
- Why do you think
that your friends
are always accusing you
of being manipulative?
- I don't know.
I really don't know.
- You've had a lot
of accusations
thrown at you today.
- Yeah.
- Is there anyone that you
want to apologize to?
- No.
- Okay.
Lisa, you've known Rinna
for more than 25 years.
How do you think you can move
forward with your friendship?
- I don't know.
She seems so angry,
so I don't know.
- And I ask the same question
of you.
- [sighs] You know, I don't...
I'm not somebody
who holds grudges,
and I like to move
forward in life.
And I... and I... I mean I'm...
Life is just too short.
So, yeah, in the bigger picture,
I would like to move forward,
'cause I don't like
to hold grudges,
but I'm disappointed, you know.
I'm so disappointed and sad
that it would come to this.
- Well, I'm disappointed
in you too.
- Okay.
- Okay.
- I want to wrap this up.
We'll be back in a minute.
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Coming up...
- You don't know
what's going on.
I jumped in and was, you know...
Found out a lot of things
the hard way.
- Back in Beverly Hills
with the ladies.
I'm Andy Cohen.
Ladies, season six has been
one of the most memorable yet.
You went to the top
of the tallest building
in the world,
swam with sea lions,
welcomed new friends
into the fold,
and you did it all
with class and dignity...
mostly. [laughter]
I enjoyed every minute of it,
I have to say.
Kyle, you've been a Housewife
since the beginning.
What's your biggest
takeaway this year?
- Well, you know, I enjoyed
getting to meet the new girls.
Um, I really have.
And even though we've all
gone through difficult times,
I feel like each of these
moments make us closer.
And I feel like I learned
a lot about,
you know,
Yolanda and Lyme disease,
which is really important,
not just for us...
I think for everyone
to be there and to see that...
And that, you know,
not to sweat the small stuff.
- Yolanda, you've been through
so much this season.
So much.
Your life is in such
a different place.
Where do you go from here?
What's next for you?
- Keep going.
- Your life is at
a real crossroads.
- Yeah, no, I think I'm...
You just keep going.
I mean, for me, the only
important thing in my life
right now is to... to get well.
- Lisa Rinna, it's probably
fair to say
that you like asking questions.
Some of those questions
have gotten you
in some trouble this season.
Any regrets?
- You know, Andy, I never
have regrets in life,
because I learn.
I learn and hopefully grow
from my mistakes
and things that I say and do.
And I hope I've learned.
I hope I've become
a better person.
I hope I have done some good
in some way, shape, or form.
- Good.
- [laughs]
- Eileen, what's the verdict?
Does "Housewives"
trump "Daytime"
in the drama department?
- Oh, my God. [laughter]
You got to be joking.
There's no contest.
"Housewives" wins.
- Kathryn, was the experience
everything you thought
it would be?
- Oh, and then some.
[laughter] - So great.
- It's beyond anything
I expected.
- Erika, was the experience
everything you thought
it would be?
- Oh, yeah, uh-huh. 1,000%.
- Are you glad you did it?
- Sure.
I mean, I knew it was insanity.
I'm insane, so why not?
- Had you watched
the show before?
- No.
- [laughing]
- That's why I was like, "Yeah."
Until you go through it,
you don't really understand
that you don't know
what's going on.
I-I jumped in and was,
you know...
Found out a lot of things
the hard way.
- Vanderpump, how are you
feeling at the end of the day?
- Well, I'm just sorry if people
think I'm manipulative.
But, you know, I...
I wish I'd kind of had
a better understanding
of what Yolanda was
going through, really.
You know, maybe I wasn't
kind of that supportive,
you know, and I regret that.
But listen, we live and learn.
- So I want to end things
a little differently this time.
I want you to look to the person
on your right...
Erika, that'll be Kathryn.
- [laughs]
Sorry.
- You, that'll be Vanderpump.
And say in one word
their best quality.
- Fáááing hilarious.
- [laughing]
- Kyle?
- Integrity.
- Thank you. That means a lot.
Kindness.
- Thank you.
Sweetness.
- Aww.
- Genuine.
Honest.
Funny.
- Perfect.
Well, thank you, ladies.
And thanks for another
great season.
- Thanks, Andy.
- Can I borrow your dress?
- You can wear it every day.
- Thanks.