Ghost Adventures: Aftershocks (2014–…): Season 2, Episode 3 - Sharon Tate Ghost and Linda Vista Hospital - full transcript

MAN:
You've got to help me!

ZAK: Do you hear me?
Someone help me!

ZAK:
The last several years,

we have explored many locations.

We have met hundreds
of people...

MAN:
What you do is so valuable.

ZAK: ...many who have been
deeply affected

by our investigations.

Can you feel me, damn it?
Feel me!

ZAK: Are these dark spirits
still plaguing these places...

WOMAN: No.



...and harming these people?

"What the heck
did I bring home with me?"

It's time to find out.

This is "Ghost Adventures:
Aftershocks."

Benedict Canyon, Los Angeles --

the site of one of the most
talked-about investigations

the "Ghost Adventures" crew
has ever done.

Right now,
we're walking up Cielo Drive.

Right here
is the David Oman house.

David Oman lives
just 200 feet away

from where the brutal and
horrific Manson Family murders

took place.

And soon, we'll talk to him
about his belief

that his house is haunted
by the spirit of Sharon Tate.



I wouldn't say
that I communicated with her

as much as
she communicated with me.

But first, we're going
to speak to Dr. Barry Taff,

a parapsychologist
who hasn't spoken to David

since he last investigated
his house eight years ago.

I want to learn
from people like you

that have been doing this

before I could even,
you know, talk.

Before you were born.
Right.

And what's really interesting
to me is

you've conducted
thousands of investigations.

And there is one place
that you even told us

that you fear going back
because it could kill you.

Right.
I want
to watch this clip.

Is it true that you won't go
to the house anymore?

I've been to David Oman's house,
2005 and '06, 20 times.

The first time I went there,
I passed out.

You think that house
could kill you?

If not kill me, it could
make me extremely ill,

to the point
where I'd be suffering

for the rest of my life.

You did a log, a study,

on 61 people
that entered this house.

Out of the 61 people,
42 of those people

experienced
some type of illness,

and some of it
extremely serious.

That's 69% of the people
that walked into that house,

Dr. Taff, had some type
of reaction, negatively.
Right.

And what I want to know is,
is this just simply,

uh, very high levels
of natural geomagnetic energy,

so high that the USGS,

the United States
Geological Survey,

have called it anomalous.

They can't, you know,
explain why,

uh, these levels of
natural geomagnetic energy

are so high.

They can't give
an explanation.

OMAN: The unique thing
about the house is

there's a lot more
than the Sharon Tate victims.

This house is a containment
vessel for the energies.

The geomagnetic anomaly,
which is this house.

High levels of EMF

gives hallucinations,
psychosis, illnesses.

Is that just
a simple explanation

for all these people
going there?

If it is just experiencing
high levels of EMF,

it has nothing
to do with ghosts,

it has nothing to do
with the afterlife,

how would you explain
the voices?

That you even said
that you heard.

How would you explain

all these different anomalies
in photos?

Well, first of all,
let me make something clear.

The house is what we classify
as haunted,

but there's a caveat.

And the caveat is, it's
a geomagnetic anomaly site.

If you were on the street
in front of the house,

the field's a little stronger
than it should be.

You go in the house,
it jumps up 10, 30, 50 fold.

Meanwhile, the iron girders
that made the foundation

are acting as an antenna,

broadcasting the fields
in the house.

Is this why there's
so much poltergeist activity

in this house?

We do know
that sensitive people,

if they're exposed

to the right type
of electromagnetic field,

they absorb it, they mix it up,
they re-emit it.

My gut is telling me,

from what I've heard
and read and experienced,

that David may be -- this
is my personal opinion --

a poltergeist agent.

A poltergeist agent?
Right.

What -- what does --
what does that mean?

I mean, is he a ghost?

The word "poltergeist"
is German,

means noisy ghost,
noisy spirit.

That and your ancestors
in parapsychology

thought
that's what it was.

Today, we call it recurrent
spontaneous psychokinesis.

And it seems to be linked

to a strong
electromagnetic field.

It is not controllable.

It is not --
not volitional.

It's recurrent.
It's random.

And it's linked
to certain people

who are either
seizure-prone or epileptic.

And they have some problems
with coping mechanisms.

I've heard from
an old friend of David's

that he has had seizures,
what this person described.

"Well, he woke up on the floor
with a big knot in his head,

his mouth full of blood,"

which means he'd bit
into his tongue.

That's a seizure.

When I tried to interview David
back in 2005

and asked him a lot
of medical questions,

he refused to discuss it.

He jumped
to other comments.

He wouldn't go into it

because no one likes to talk
about the fact

that you may be
seizure-prone or epileptic.

If the right people are
in the environment...

Got ya.

...and they're sensitive
to it, boom!

They trigger it.

OMAN: The energy here is...

It's tighter in here.

Yeah, it's tighter,
it's heavier.

It is weird.
You can -- you can feel it.

And there should be
no reason.
Right.

When I was there 21 times
over the course of the year,

objects were thrown at me.

Wait.
You're telling me that,

when you were there,
objects in David Oman's house...

Were thrown at me.
Were thrown at you?

You witnessed this?

Suddenly, a cup flies out
of the kitchen, right by me.

And there's no one
in the kitchen.

And you don't think that those
are just people that died,

and their spirits
are there?

They saw you,
they grabbed that cup,

and they said,
"Dr. Barry Taff,

"you're the man that has
all this recognition.

Take this."
Boom, threw a cup at you.

You don't think
that it's a spirit?

In science, there's something
that's called Occam's razor.

All things being equal,

you go with
the simplest explanation.

It's like diagnosing
a medical condition.
Right, right.

Before you assume
something's paranormal,

you got to rule
everything else out.

Then, instead
of the paranormal,

you start
at the most simplistic,

and you work your way out
to the most non--

the most outrageous.

So, is there a way
to clinically verify the fact

there are
dead people there? No.

Does it meet the criteria
of poltergeist cases?

Yes.

But in my personal opinion,

I think he's grossly
misrepresenting

what's going on there,
claiming that the ghosts

of Sharon Tate and Jay Sebring
are walking around,

talking to him.

So, you don't believe that
there's dead people there?

I personally...

Spirits.
I personally don't believe

there are dead people
floating around.

An example -- one time,
David Oman and myself

and two friends of his
were having brunch.

And we're sitting
at the booth at a deli,

and suddenly, David's eyes
start rolling back in his head,

which is common.

I've noticed that
when I first met him.

And he's talking to someone
in the booth next to him.

There was nobody there?

No. I mean, in his head,
there was.

You hear that, and you would
think right away,

"There it is.
There it is.

"Judge, we rest our case.

"You know, here --
here's... Here it is.

"Here's the evidence
everybody --

the jury was looking for."

But you have 61 people.

42 of those people

experienced some pretty
heavy-duty [bleep]

at that house, Dr. Taff,
including yourself.

Mm-hmm.

Objects, including a cup,
was thrown at you.

I witnessed objects
moving in that house,

unlike I've seen
in a lot of cases before.

Oh!

I've heard voices.

We've seen things.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
What just came at me?

Hell, there's a crazy photo
of this woman

with something coming
out of her -- her head.

This is a picture taken
at David Oman's house.

So, what is this,
Dr. Taff?

If I had to make a bet,

I'd say this is
a visual manifestation

of the way the environment

was affecting
this woman's head.

And the glass -- on something
on the wall,

there's a reflection.

That's a reflection
of the anomaly.

Nothing was visually observed
by anyone at this time.

It was taken
because the woman

was having a bad reaction
or a strange reaction.

It might've occurred
so quickly

that our eyes and our brain
can't process it.

Is that why a lot of still
photographs capture anomalies

that we can't see
with the naked eye?

Is because it's so quick?

Right.
And this might've occurred

in a couple hundredths
of a second...

Right.
...or a thousandth
of a second.

And this is what showed up.
But no one saw anything.

David is here.

I know that, uh,
we've separated you two.

And I'm gonna
interview him next.

Can we bring him
out here?

ZAK: We've been talking
to Dr. Barry Taff

about his former friend,
David Oman,

who lives
just down the street

from where a gruesome event
took place.

GUIDE: The Sharon Tate murders
took place about 200 feet

from David Oman's property,

and he's been having a lot of
paranormal activity going on.

ZAK:
It's a mysterious site.

You have people
wanting to go there,

experience it,
research it,

and study it.

So it's a weird situation
because the gatekeeper

is a guy that's very odd,
very unique, very different.

♪ Happy birthday,
Mr. President ♪

♪ Happy birthday to you ♪

A geomagnetic site
that has this much energy,

and he's living

right in the freaking
bull's-eye of it.
Mm.

You know, a lot of people
out there would say

that David could be subject
to oppression, possession.

He could be affected
by spirits.

Mm.
I would think so.

He's got
an anger management problem.

Shut the [bleep] up.

He has --

The word compromise
doesn't exist.

He's a volatile guy.

He's not a bad person.
He's not mean.

He just explodes.

We had a -- we had a problem
when we were filming.

We saw that side,

and we also saw
that he can change on a dime.

Mm.
You know?

Would --
And this is up to you.

Mm-hmm?

David is here.

I know that, uh,
we've separated you two.

Mm-hmm.

And I'm gonna
interview him next.

Would you think that
this would be the time

to where David
comes out here,

and I talk to both of you
at the same time?

Can we bring him
out here?

Sure.

Do it, get him.

ZAK: David and Barry
have not spoken to one another

in eight years.

And their personal
and professional relationship

ended abruptly on bad terms.

From what we know about David,

it's impossible to predict
what will happen.

But I can't ignore
this amazing opportunity

to sit them down together.

Hey.
How the hell are you?

Nice to see you again.

[Bleep] Still want
to borrow your hair.

[ Laughs ]

And I was worried he was gonna
be terse about me,

seeing me
after this many years

and all the [bleep] TV shows.

Well, we got a little heavier,
but you kept your hair.

[Bleep]

I want to borrow
that DNA.

[Bleep]
I swear to god, Barry.

We can all acknowledge
that your home

is a very
fascinating place,

and even Dr. Taff
agrees with that.

You took me downstairs.

You showed me
the exposed mountain.

Do you think
this is the nest

that these spirits
manifest?

A lot of different psychics
that have been here

have all said that there's
a Native American on horseback

buried here
in this plot of earth.

In my own research,

I've learned that
Native American Indians

that were here way before
white man, way before...

Oh, sure.
...any of us came here
and settled,

they were in tune with
something very, very powerful.

They were so in tune
with Mother Nature.

They worshipped Mother Nature
and all of her powers.

All of these powers
are what?

Geomagnetic
energy conductors.

Okay?
They worshipped rivers.

They worshipped
mountains.

They worshipped --

And flowing water
creates a magnetic field.

Absolutely.
So, what did --

do these Native American
Indians know

about Benedict Canyon

that we still don't,
not even the USGS?

Well, no, we do know.

David's house has the highest
magnetic field

I've ever recorded in my life,
other than a lab.

What do you think
about David

allowing people into his house
on tours?

I mean, I --
I wouldn't do it.

But, again,
I'm not David.

Why wouldn't you do it?

Because I think
it's a little misrepresentation.

And the way I perceive it,
personally.

What do you mean,
misrepresentation?

Because I don't
personally believe --

I believe
he's had experiences.

I believe he's seen things,
as other people have.

But that, to me, doesn't
imply communication.

Communication is what
we're doing now.

We talk, we listen,
back and forth.

But -- but -- but even you
stated, though,

that there are events going on
at David's house

that -- that are
absolutely amazing.

I mean, objects moving
by themselves defies physics.

Exactly.

Um, voices being heard
by the human ear

when nobody is there
is an amazing thing.

Do you think it's safe
for people to go in his house?

It depends on the person.

I wanted
to basically open up my house

to allow people to have
the same opportunity

as if there were
in one of your shows

and have the chance
to get involved

and to go on a real-life
ghost hunt for themselves.

But, yes or no,
do you also believe

that you could be
subjecting people

to a horrific experience,

like Dr. Taff
and his research studies?

Um, personally,
my personal belief is no.

Okay. Then, did you not witness
him document 61 people?

And out of those 61 people,
42, David,

42 fell subject
to some serious illnesses

just by stepping foot
in your house.

Did you or did you not see that
with your own eyes?

Um, I've seen it.

And, after living there
for a dozen years

and never once being affected
in an ill fashion,

any way, shape,
or form myself --

Dr. Taff, do you think
that he's perfectly fine

and healthy
living there?

He is an integral part
of that house

or that environment.

If someone other than David
was living there,

it may not even happen.

He is
the principal agent.

David, do you mind if...

So he can sense
where it's gonna go,

and it goes there.

...if my paranormal team and I
do an autopsy on you,

and open you up
so we can study you?

That assumes when I die.

Sure, if you guys are around
when I die,

whatever year that might be.

Aaron collects some weird
[bleep] in his house.

Do you want David Oman's body
in your house?

I'll take your skull.

OMAN: Say my skull?

Can me feel me, damn it?
Feel me!

I'll feel you up,
you son of a [bleep]

Dr. Taff, is it safe to say
that you believe

that David is not
communicating with the victims

of the Manson murders
down the street?

It's nothing to do
with David.

When everyone tells me
they're talking to dead people,

I go, "Oh, okay."
You know, it's like...

But you said that you heard

unexplained voices
in the house.

Yes.
All -- yes.

Then how can you explain those?
Who was saying them?

Again --
Who were the voices,
Dr. Taff?

I have no idea.

A magnetic environment
that intense,

that affects human
neurophysiology...

It could give you delusions
and hallucinations?

No, the problem is you can't
record a hallucination.

These can be recorded.

If you're recording it,
it's physical.

Did you record
the voices?

I didn't.
Friends of mine did.

Okay.
Let me ask you a question.

If you're more
on the skeptical side,

that this isn't really
intelligent spirits,

then how could
this geomagnetic energy

that's just being transmitted
like an antenna...

How could it be
intelligent then?

How could this energy be
documented on tape

as voices
and give you a response?

"Move that."
Boom, it moves.

Okay.
Here's what's important.

I believe David
saw what he saw,

but when you're watching
a DVD, you're seeing it.

I mean,
it's doing its thing.

Does that mean you're
communicating with it?

No.
He observed it.

It was dynamic.
It was three-dimensional.

That doesn't...
That's not communication.

That's perception.

When we heard the voices
many times, we're...

There's no one there.

His place is a magnetic
containment vessel.

There's magnetic fields
every which way.

Some people, it makes sick.
Other people, it doesn't.

I mean, every time
I went to the hospital

after I left his house,

"Oh, you were
at the house again.

Oh, you were
at that house again."

So, you know,
enough, enough, enough.

And that was it.
I just can't do it.

It's too --
it's -- it's... I can't.

I may be foolish about this,
but I'm not stupid.

So David's fortunate.

I guess I must be stupid then.
Call me -- call me stupid.

No, no, no, no.
I just don't know
what I'm doing.

I don't have a brain,

so that's the reason
why it doesn't affect.

When there's nothing there,
what can it affect?

Nothing.
Yeah, right.

You can't go
to David Oman's house.

You refuse
to go back there

because it can put you
in the hospital.

You even told me

that -- that he is
a poltergeist agent...

Very likely.
...of the house.

Oh, great.

What is it like sitting next
to David Oman right now,

within 8 inches,

after you haven't seen him
for eight years?

[ Growling ]
I just -- I just...

Oh, no.
I'm fine.

No, I mean...
What is it like?

Can you feel that?
Can you feel...

No, he can't feel that!

No, no.

Can you feel me, damn it?
Feel me!

I'll feel you up,
you son of a [bleep]

It's -- it's like...

You're dead meat.
Don't you know it?

It's been eight years
since you've seen him.

We're already a step forward

with you two sitting
next to each other.

Oh, yeah.
I made that happen.

Would you return

and do a final investigation
with us,

and we're gonna let you
lead it, at his house?

So, let's...
So, yeah.

Here's a written,

"We will cover all
your medical expenses

that are a fallout from
revisiting the house." Yes.

Let me ask
the Travel Channel.

Travel Channel,
do you agree to that?

Too much liability?
That's what I thought.

ZAK: Barry and I may never make
it back to David's house again,

but Scotti Megelin, the woman

in this compelling
photographic evidence,

agreed to take
my production team on a tour

to share her firsthand account.

Right when they took
the picture,

I was so...
I was uncomfortably hot.

And this is usually how I know
something's about to happen,

when something enters me.

I start to get
really, really warm.

And then I felt the pressure,

like something was literally
on my back and my neck,

just hanging out back there.

And the heat
was really uncomfortable.

I just -- really
uncomfortable heat.

And that was when
they snapped the photo.

ZAK: While there are still
many questions left unanswered

about this house
and its impact on its owner,

the reflections
in this photograph

are indisputable proof
of an anomaly

being physically present
on Cielo Drive.

Turning to another, more
dangerous, area of Los Angeles,

we find
the Linda Vista Hospital,

which has seen its share
of violent deaths.

In the 1970s and '80s,
gangs moved into the region,

bringing in a steady stream
of gunshot wounds, stabbings,

beatings, and other senseless
acts, leaving thousands dead.

In our second visit there
in 2011,

we were among
the very last paranormal teams

to investigate the building

before it was renovated
into apartments.

What do you want?

Whoa.

Since then,
the building's paranormal past

has been largely ignored.

But Richard Berni,
a former employee

with a close connection
to Linda Vista, is here

to bring to light
new, crucial information

about the current state
of the location.

Hey, Richard.
How are you doing?

It's nice
to see you again.

Good to see you.

So, since we've left
Linda Vista,

I know everybody,
especially on the West Coast,

knows that
Linda Vista Hospital,

an insanely haunted place,

recently transformed
into apartments.

Right?
Yes.

Well, Linda Vista Hospital,

its last year as an operational
hospital was 1992.

And then they started
the process of the renovation

of becoming single
and two-bedroom apartments.

The first part
of the project

was the mental-services
building.

One of the former
construction managers

actually opening up
the building at 6:00 a.m.

told me that he had heard
a conversation

happening right on
the other side of the door...

...when the building
was locked.

And so he opened it up,
and nobody was in there.

I was always wondering
about how that was going.

'Cause when I heard it was
being converted,

I was like, "No, you've got
to be kidding me."

The developer wanted to try
to distance the property

from its haunted history.

And the more that
they tried wrestling

with that separation process,

the more the history
of the hospital stuck --

It just stuck
to them more.

That not gonna go anywhere.

Did I just put my hand
in human ash?

I feel like I need

a moment of silence
or something.

A lot of people that lived
in those apartments

that moved out rapidly,
they wouldn't talk.

They wouldn't talk to us.

And I think
you're our inside scoop.

Yeah. Well, I had
the privilege

of speaking to a couple of
the families that lived there.

Because of the position
I had,

I heard a lot of rumors
and stuff.

So I said,
"You know what?

I'm gonna interview them
myself."

I like that.

So I interviewed them
myself,

and the first family said
that they were afraid

to walk down the hallways
because,

when they would walk down
the hallways,

something was
following them.

So they could actually feel
and hear footsteps...

...directly behind them as
they're walking downstairs.

And then, there was
the interior hauntings

that were going on.

Lights being -- you know,
flickering off and on,

the shelves opening.

The constant voices,
the whispering.

And, um, growling.

Which is a more
creepier part is,

it seemed to be a very
common thing going on

with these families
is that --
Growling?

Was that
they'd be watching TV,

and they would hear
a snarl, you know?

[ Growling ]

I like their little
real-estate pamphlets

for our new
apartment complex.
Yeah.

You open it up and,

"Oh, welcome to our beautiful,
you know, apartment complex.

"We have great amenities,
like a swimming pool

"and a, um...

"When you watch TV, you may
have an extra friend come

and snarl and growl
around you."

I can't see too many people

that would really
choose to live there,

knowing, you know,
what this place was,

knowing
its haunted reputation.

This could be something
that's not entirely human

and is trying to trick me
to thinking that --

that it's a little girl.

ZAK: We're talking
to Richard Berni

about the Linda Vista Hospital's
renovation into apartments,

and the attempt
to distance the building

from its haunted past.

You know, I was privy
to be there

during the invitation
to local religious leaders

who came in and did,
uh, crossover ceremonies.

ZAK: Oh, they did?
Yes.

They tried cleansing
the building?

Some Buddhist monks
came over from Vietnam

and they did
this really cool ceremony.

So the developer
did try to...

Get the spirits and
get them to cross over...

Right, right.
...to leave Linda Vista.

Yes.

But you're telling me now

that there still is
paranormal?

Yes, each family
had their own tale

of some type of haunting
and all from the third floor.

All from the third floor?
Yes.

Now, if you remember
the third floor,

I believe it was
room number 323...
Correct.

...that was a negative room,
where people got scratched.

WOMAN: I lifted up my shirt
and asked my friend John

to look at my back.

And there were scratch marks.

Scratch marks?
Yeah.

We filmed "Paranormal
Challenge" there...

BERNI: Yes.
Another show that I did.

And I remember one of the teams
was on the third floor,

and the guy just freaked out,
was running across that hall.

I don't like
what's happening in here.

[Bleep] [bleep] away from me!

Get the [bleep] away
from me, please!

There was a story
that you told me,

when we met you,

about a little girl dying
in front of the hospital.

Yes.

You gave us
an actual event.

When we were there on
our very first investigation,

we interviewed
a couple ladies.

We walked in
through this doorway.

Okay.

Kirsten was
in front of me.

They shared with us
some EVP recordings

of a little girl's voice

that they captured
in this particular OR.

[ Woman screams ]
[Bleep] man!

That's the little girl
humming.

[ Humming ]

And when we were there,

we started rolling
on our recorder.

And we actually got
that same little girl EVP

on our recorder and actually
played it back live.

I heard that, too.
There's the hum.

It was like...
[ Humming ]

You know,
you could hear that.

This woman, Kirsten, says

that this
little girl's spirit

has been following her
from Linda Vista.

And her voice is being captured
on their recordings

at all different
various locations

that they're investigating.

ZAK: Kirsten Thorne
is a paranormal investigator

whose encounter with the "Ghost
Adventures" crew in 2009

had a profound impact
on her life.

You got that same voice
that we got.

So it was captured on two
different recording devices,

and you believe
this is a little girl.

It certainly sounds
like a little girl.

It's a little girl's voice.

Right, and we just
talked to Richard,

who told us about
a little girl

that was actually killed out
in front of the hospital.

Let's watch that.

BERNI:
There was an incident here,

where a little girl was struck

by a vehicle right
in front of the hospital,

crossing St. Louis
from the park.

[ Horn blares ]

[ Girl screams ]

BERNI: And they actually brought
her into the emergency room,

where she ended up
succumbing to her injuries.

What's interesting is that,
since we've seen you last,

which was a while ago...
Yeah.

That was four years ago?
2009.

Five years ago?
Oh, my gosh.

Wow, time moves.
Yep.

Let me just...
Let me handle that for a second.

Okay.

You've been investigating
other locations,

and you're still
getting this little girl

at those other locations.

Yes, and it's
a little disturbing

because I thought maybe
she would be located

at Linda Vista Hospital.

But she apparently isn't.

She apparently can travel.

We've picked her up at many
different investigations,

and it's a --
it's a similar tone.

It's a similar singing sound,
very -- almost identical,

in some cases, to what
we picked up that day.

The question I have is,
why would she be doing this,

and why is she
following us around?

What is the purpose?

Following you.

Following me in particular?

Can I ask you a question?
Sure.

Do you nurture her?

Do you talk to her
in a maternal way?

I wish I could say
that I did,

but I don't know
who she is.

I had wanted to think of her
as just this residual energy,

and that maybe it just
kept manifesting itself

in different places.

But when she actually starts
to try to interact,

it seems like you have
something else going on.

If I knew for a fact

that she was the girl
that was killed

in front of the hospital,

if I knew for a fact
that she was a lost soul,

then I would be willing
to help.

I have had my house blessed.
I've had my house cleansed.

Um, she still shows up.

So I don't know
where she --

I don't know what this is.

This could just be
a fragment of consciousness.

This could be something

that isn't really
interacting at all,

that just repeats.

Or this could be something
that's not entirely human

and is trying to trick me

or trick other people
into thinking

that -- that
it's a little girl.

Which lends to the theory

that certain spirits
can haunt people.

Do you think that you brought
something home with you...

Oh, I know...
...after this investigation?

...I brought something home
with me.

I had only been home 48 hours,
and she died in my arms.

ZAK: During our last visit
to Linda Vista,

we spoke to Kimber Chase,
a former nurse

who would sometimes transport
patients out of the hospital.

That night, she returned and
joined us on our investigation,

her first and only experience
hunting for ghosts.

CHASE: Can you please come down
here and talk to me?

I really want
to resolve this with you.

ZAK:
She's here to talk with us today

about why she regrets
ever opening that doorway

to the other side.

One day,
when you were working,

you saw an apparition
of a woman?

Absolutely. Yes.
Okay. Let's watch.

We were busy with the patient,

and I happened to look up,
and she...

There was a woman in the corner.

There was blood on her gown.

She was a full-body apparition.

She looked just like you or I.

And then I realized, "Okay.

This is not --
this is not a person."

She knew that I could see her,
and I know she knew.

And that's why I invited you
to our lockdown investigation.

What?
"Help yourself"?

AARON: What?

Did you hear that?
That was...

So, before this voice,

you told me
that you were there

to try and resolve
the female that you saw...

Right.
...that was looking at you
in your eyes.

I really want
to resolve this with you.

Can you help yourself?

It was almost a forewarning

of what was to come
in my life

less than two weeks
after that shoot.

Okay.
So I understand that,

after this investigation,

that you lost six members
of your family?

Yes, I did.
Okay.

I'm gonna try to talk about it
as delicate as possible.

Appreciate that.

And forgive me if I may say
something the wrong way.

It's a very
delicate subject.

Do you think that you brought
something home with you...

Oh, I know...
...after this investigation?

...I brought something home
with me.

I brought something home
with me

when we went back
to the hotel after the shoot,

let alone what --
what I took home in my --

into my personal life.

In fact, when we
left the investigation,

when I left the investigation
and went back to the hotel,

um, I was just plagued
with horrible nightmares,

like someone standing
outside my window...

...like, tap, tap, tap
on my window.

And it continued on
throughout the week.

We shot that
on February 1st,

and, um, my mother
really got sick.

And I'd only been home
48 hours,

she died in my arms
on Valentine's Day.

I lost a cousin and an auntie
both on Memorial Day.

And then, my grandmother died
in her sleep on my lap.

And then, on Fourth of July,
I had a death --

another death of a sibling,
so...

Well, I'm truly --
truly sorry

for what you had to deal with
after the investigation.

And I appreciate that.

Do you believe

that you participating
in our investigation

played a role in these
family members passing away?

Logically and professionally,
I would like to say no.

Spiritually, I...

I try not to go there...
Right.

...because there's a lot
of guilt, and there's --

I -- I feel
a lot of, "What if?

"What if I didn't have --
go there?

"What if I didn't
open these doors?

What the heck
did I bring home with me?"

That's a question I'll ask
myself the rest of my life.

Right.

I really will.

Did I -- did I bring this
upon my family?

Was this
a freak coincidence?

Right.

Because you -- you do.
You have to rationalize it.

You have to think
that that...
Absolutely.

There were just -- there
was just so much going on.

I was --
I was so traumatized,

especially
after the original --

with the loss of my mother
and, um, holding her --

holding her
as she left this world.

And, uh,
she was so frightened.

And the guilt,
it's just the guilt.

What if -- if -- if I opened
that door for her?

Um, you know, I -- I --
I just -- if I could go...

In retrospect,
if I could go back...

If there was a 1% chance
that my actions

or decisions brought this
upon anybody...

Right.

...I wouldn't go there,
obviously.

I don't know if I,

and a lot of the people
I investigated with,

were careful enough.

And I don't know
if they understood

what they were
really dealing with.

I think a lot of us
went into this --

A lot of us don't.

I want to see a door shut
by itself.

I want to --
I want to get scratched.

I want --
That's what they want.

You tell people
to be careful,

but most people want
the experience

of, like,
the amusement park.

ZAK: Once a hospital has closed
down, and the people have left,

it's easy to underestimate it.

Old patient records.
Are you serious?

They just look --
they're just lying around

all over the hospital.

So this is really like they
just picked up and just left.

Basically, it looks like they
just abandoned the place.

ZAK: But the energy in a place
that experiences so much loss,

so much death,

does it really leave,
or is it just waiting?

Check this out.

Look at this, with all
the random stuff in here.

You have a little keepsake
from room 323?

BERNI: I sure do, yeah.

Why don't you
tell everybody

what your crazy self decided
to take from Linda Vista?

Yes, I have, uh -- I have

the actual vanity door,
the mirror.

You took it?

I have it at my house,
in my room.

You're taking rocks
from a satanic circle.

I do it
for a big experiment.

Has the experiment
ended yet?

It won't end for a while.

What's the breaking point
of the experiment to end?

Uh, I'm dead.

You have a little keepsake
from room 323?

BERNI: I sure do, yeah.

Why don't you
tell everybody

what your crazy self decided
to take from Linda Vista?

Yes, I have, uh --

I have the actual vanity door,
the mirror,

which probably
was not a good idea.

Really?
Yes.

There's stories behind it?

Do you think that energy

from one of the most
sinister areas

of Linda Vista Hospital
followed those objects?

I just was getting a lot
of stuff from shadows...

Really?
...in my place.

Let me ask you a question.

Stuff like that,
so...

Did you take the item
out of your house?

It's not
inside your house?

Not anymore.
Okay.

Have these hauntings and --
and occurrences stopped?

Yes.
They have?

Yes.

I did the same exact thing.
I'm gonna tell everybody.

My old house that had
the dungeon underneath of it,

uh, even Aaron, we would go

and collect items from all
of these haunted locations.

And the difference
between Aaron and myself is,

Aaron still has these items
in his house.

And I still collect them.

And he still
collects them.

Hence, why we've nicknamed him
Dark Aaron.

When I started bringing
these objects home,

I had a huge display
in front of the dungeon,

and I would put them
in the dungeon as well.

After I started bringing
these objects home,

um, the energy in my house
was just -- it was unbearable.

You could feel it.

You know,
I live in a new house now,

and I don't bring
a single object there.

And it's a --
I'm gonna tell you something.

It's a completely
different feeling.

You know, I -- I learned
a very good experience,

not to keep that stuff
around my home anymore.

Yes.

So, Aaron?
Yeah?

These objects that you have,
I -- I believe have interfered

with -- with you,
uh, some relationships

and also your own,
uh, personality.

You're taking rocks
from a satanic circle,

things from where demonic
hauntings are, things like that.

I know it's cool.

You know, I know the dark stuff
is cool, but I've noticed it.

I think other people
close to you have noticed.

Have you agreed to start
getting some of these objects

out of your house?

Uh, not the house.

Just contain them all
in one spot.

I do it for a big experiment
kind of thing.

Okay.
Has the experiment ended yet?

It won't end for a while.

What's the breaking point
of the experiment to end?

Uh, I'm dead.

Okay. So there's a prime
example, ladies and gentlemen,

of when you --
you don't think clearly.

Um, and when you really know

that you are
inviting darkness in.

And, like, Aaron's case,
Aaron is Aaron.

You can tell this guy
not to do something,

but if he wants to do it,
he's gonna do it.

And nobody is gonna change
his outlook on that, nobody.

So, you know,
you go over there,

and it looks like
the Predator's home.

You know,
just skulls everywhere.

I agree my house
is a little overwhelmed

with, like, scary art
and all that.

There may be
a little too much, man.

A little bit too much?
It really is.

A little too much?
I know.

This is an intervention
right now.

This has turned in --
sorry, man.

This has turned
into a freaking intervention.

You got a friend here,
you got friends back there.

'Cause we love you, man.

Okay. We love you, Aaron.
But listen to me.

I'm at home with it,
and I work with it.
Listen, enough's enough.

I mean, I'm still gonna be
doing all this stuff forever.

But it's like...

When it's, like, to the point
where it's, like, "Okay"...

You know, I'm 60 or 50,

and I'm like, "Well,
it's time to put it all away,"

I'll put it all away.

But till then, we're
gonna still be hunting.

So, Billy, Jay,

that means we got to deal
with Dark Aaron

for many, many episodes.

And Dark Aaron is a guy

that can turn really dark,
really quick.

I'm like the best gauge --

not, like, evil, like
I get mean and scary.

But, like,
it's an energy change.

I don't get evil and scary.

Aaron can't talk
about Dark Aaron

'cause Aaron doesn't know
who Dark Aaron is.

Only Dark Aaron knows
who Dark Aaron is.

Bottom line is -- We love this
guy, one of my best friends.

We all do.
We're a big family.

But we definitely advocate

to everybody that's watching
this right now,

do not bring objects home
from haunted locations,

just like the rocks
from the Bell Witch Cave.

He's right, he's right.
Don't do it.

He's absolutely right.
Don't do it.

We have to deal
with the dark side of Aaron

that I believe is a direct
connection to his "experiment."

But we do great
during the hunts.

Yes.

He creeps me out now.

If whatever
followed Richard home left

once he removed
these objects from his house,

it suggests
that the negative energy

was physically attached to them,

much like Kirsten describes

a haunting connected
to her own person.

Yeah, there's something
about that

that makes me slightly
uncomfortable

because
I can't identify her.

If objects taken
from haunted locations

can serve as a catalyst,
then why not a person?

David Oman's house,
and perhaps the man himself,

are rare and special cases
of the paranormal

that even science
cannot fully explain.

Who were the voices,
Dr. Taff?
I have no idea.