Ghost Adventures: Aftershocks (2014–…): Season 2, Episode 1 - Zozo Demon and Katie's Bar - full transcript

MAN:
You've got to help me!

ZAK: Do you hear me?
Someone help me!

ZAK:
The last several years,

we have explored many locations.

We have met hundreds
of people...

MAN:
What you do is so valuable.

ZAK: ...many who have
been deeply affected

by our investigations.

That's where
she used to live.

In Bannack,
the ghost town.
Mm-hmm.

Wow.



Are these dark spirits
still plaguing these places...

WOMAN: No.

...and harming these people?

Are you strangely addicted
to the place,

and you don't know why?

Yes.

ZAK:
It's time to find out.

This is "Ghost Adventures:
Aftershocks."

An abandoned gold mining town
located in Bannack, Montana

is surrounded by natural beauty,

but has something sinister
at its center,

as we found out during
our investigation there in 2014.

Aaron and Nick!
Get the [bleep] up here!

I haven't been rattled like this
in a long time.



There is a very aggressive
spirit inside of this hotel

that seems to be aware of us.

Investigator Francisco Ferreyra
had a disturbing encounter

with the negative spirit of a
child at Bannack named Dorothy.

Since then, the situation
surrounding Dorothy

has become much more serious.

Dorothy is on the verge of
destroying Francisco's marriage,

and worse, harming his children.

Hey, Francisco.
Zak.

How you doing?
Good to see you again.

So I want to warn everybody
that's watching this right now

what we're gonna talk about.

It's very creepy, especially
if you have little children.

This is a serious issue.

And I hope that somehow,
some way, you being here today,

this time, you're gonna
listen to me, please.

And I want to try and help,
okay?

This isn't just an interview.

I seriously want to try
and help the situation, okay?

So, let's just
catch everybody up

when I first met you.

It's amazing
how beautiful this area is...

Yep.

But that doesn't describe

the experience
that you had here, right?

I came here with
a couple of friends of mine.

We were at the hotel.

And I was walking,
about to go down the stairs,

and I heard a little girl say,
"Hi, Daddy."

I turn around,

I felt something or someone
physically, like, pushing me

down the stairs.

Was it a push trying
to harm you?

Yes.

It was?
Yeah.

This is where
you got pushed?

Yep.

Do you feel that if you didn't
catch yourself,

you could have
seriously injured yourself

or killed yourself?

Oh, definitely.

If I would
have been here,

I probably would have
ended up

all the way [Sighs]
all the way down there.

That's not really it,
you know?

There's more?
Yeah.

I went home
and went to bed.

I woke up in the --

I don't know, like,
1:00 in the morning.

I walk to the kitchen,

and my little kid was actually
running back and forth.

He was laughing.

Was it like
something was with him?

Yeah.

Yeah,
something was with him.

And then, I was shaking.

I had this burning sensation
on me.

There was marks
on my back.

Do you regret
coming here...

[ Laughs ]

...and having
this experience?

Yes. Yeah. Uh-huh.

You went back.
Yes, I did.

Since I've seen you last
on the show.
Yeah.

I'm a little upset
with you, man.

I know.

What's going on here,
Francisco?

Why are you going back?

And this is getting serious,
okay?

For all the skeptics out there,
everybody sitting here,

you know,
thinking that maybe

you're making all this [bleep]
up or anything like that,

I want you to tell me, and
I want you to tell everybody

right now how this has almost
ruined your marriage

and how you have video evidence
of your little child

playing with this spirit at home
at 4:30 in the morning.

Well, I don't know
why I keep coming back.

I just...

I just get this...

Like, I feel like I'm just
obsessed with that place.

I know the feeling.
I understand.

I feel like I have to go.

And my wife, you know...

I wasn't supposed
to go back.

Your wife was telling you
not to go?

Yeah.
Why?

Well, since you saw me last,
I actually -- I lied to her.

Can you say that
again, please?

I lied to her.
You lied to your wife.

Yeah, I --
About what?

Going back.

I told her I was gonna go hiking
with some of my friends.

I was gonna be gone
all day.

I went there.

About two days
after that happened,

my kid
started playing again.

What do you mean,
playing again?

Well, he had
done it before.

Wake up in the middle
of the night, you know,

and then
play with somebody.

Play with somebody.

Something.

Something...
[ Laughing ] I don't know.

...that you believe
that you brought home.

Yes.
I know I did.

ZAK: Jessica Ferreyra
is Francisco's wife.

I want to talk with her now

about how
his addiction to Bannack

is affecting her
and her children.

So, talking to your husband,
and I'm angry with him,

because when I met him,
he told me about what happened.

I could tell
just by his demeanor

that, you know,
something was going on here

and that he did
go through something

that did kind of
mess him up a little bit.

But the scary part here is,

is that he became addicted
to this and started going back.

And this happens.
I see it all the time.

It's happened with me.
It's happened with him.

It happens.

You get attacked,
and you go back.

Before any of it all happened,
you know, he's a great dad.

He's a caring, loving person
and pretty even-keeled.

Everybody's got
their attitude.

But, I mean,
he's a good guy, you know?

I can tell.

He went to Bannack
that first time, you know,

and had the experience
with being pushed.

And then he came home,
and there was just...

Something had changed,
and...

he...

He just was different.

I mean, he really was.

He was angry quicker
with the kids,

a shorter temper,

and just not himself at all.

That wasn't him.
No.

He started having nightmares.
He was waking up from them.

I didn't hear all this.
Oh.

Yes. He was...

He didn't tell me
about all this.

...having some nightmares
where he would wake up,

and, I mean, he'd be
thrashing in the bed.

And he just --
He was not restful.

How did you know?

You don't believe
in the paranormal.

You don't believe in ghosts,
do you?
I don't, really.

You don't?
Not at all.

You're a total skeptic.
I am.

I hear the same thing
that you just told me.

That's very common

with a demonic attachment.

When you go someplace,

it starts with a scratch,
an attack.

You go home.

Someone else in the family,
a friend,

immediately notices
that person is not themselves.

They're angry.
They begin having nightmares.

There's dozens like this,
countless that I've seen.

So if I'm a doctor,
I'm gonna diagnose this

as a demonic attachment.

Now I'm going to get
to the disturbing stuff,

the creepy stuff.

You brought with you today
video of your little boy

playing with
an imaginary friend

that your little boy
named Dorothy.
Yeah.

A young girl.
Mm-hmm.

Do we see
the connections here?

Yeah.

That's when I had to actually
come clean with my wife,

because my wife knows
the history of Bannack,

but I try to keep Geno
away from that.

You know, I don't let him
watch "Ghost Adventures"

or any of that stuff,
yeah, because he's too little.

But he had the name.

Dorothy.
Dorothy. Yeah.

I want to play the clip
of your son.

And you were filming him when
he was playing with Dorothy.

Let's watch this.

[ Imitating crashing ]

FRANCISCO: Uh, Geno.

Yeah, Daddy?

What are you doing?

[ Baby crying ]

Same friend that you were
playing with yesterday?

Yeah.

I don't see anybody,
Geno.

Invisible?

What's his name?

Oh.

She's a little girl?

You have to tell Dorothy
she has to go home.

Okay.

Can you please tell her?

Where is she at right now?

Is she still here?

...up there.

ZAK: You know, you watch that,
and you start thinking,

"Little kids have imaginary
friends," and whatnot.

But your son seems to be
really detailed with Dorothy,

about what Dorothy seems
to tell him right off the bat.

You know, it's like she's right
there talking to him.

And you're like,
"Where's Dorothy? She left?"

He's actually looking for her
and actually looks back

and says that she just
went out the door.

Let me ask you
this question.

Did Geno ever play with Dorothy
before you went to Bannack,

when you had that experience
being attacked?

No.

No. So, did this
start happening

after you got scratched
and came home?
Yeah.

It did?
Yeah.

About how long?
Within days.

Really?
Yeah.

Has this stopped?

It did stop,
and then I went back.

And then...it started again.

It started
with him playing with Dorothy.

Yeah. This is the first time
he actually brought up a name.

Do you know
that house that got destroyed?

In Bannack?

Yeah.
I do.

That's the house
that she used to live in.

[ Sighs, chuckles ]

ZAK: I've been talking
with Francisco Ferreyra

about the disturbing video
he took

of his child Geno
playing with an entity, Dorothy,

which has followed him from
Bannack ghost town to his home.

I want to show a second clip now
that's, I think, you know,

a little more creepier
than what we just saw,

because your son says that he
actually got, you know, woken up

in the middle of the night
by Dorothy.
Yeah.

And you find your son
playing with toys with Dorothy

at 4:30 a.m.,
in the middle of the night.

Let's watch this.

[ Geno grunting indistinctly ]

FRANCISCO:
Geno. Geno. Geno.

Is she nice to you
all the time?

Don't put that
in your mouth.

Do you know
what time it is?

Mm, no.

It's almost 4:30
in the morning.

Did she wake you up?

Ohh! Ohh.

Oh! Ow.

You know, you can't be playing
with her at night.

And this is not her house,
so she can't be here.

Okay.

Okay.

ZAK:
You know your son better

than anybody else
watching this right now.

When he fell
and said that hurt,

do you think that that was
Dorothy pulling him back?

I don't know.

When this happens,
he's not himself.

What about any other day, if he
was to wake up at 4:30 a.m.?

Would he be tired?

Oh, yeah.
He would.

You can actually move him,
shake him. "Hey, Geno. Geno."

He'll just be like,
"I'm going to bed."

You know, he's, like --
When he's sleeping, he is out.

Where was your wife
during this video?

She was in the bedroom.

Does she think that --
that your son here was playing

with a ghost that you brought
home from Bannack ghost town

that attacked you?

Yeah. That's why
she actually, um...

That's why she actually
packed up her stuff

and left and took the kids.

She took the kids.
Yeah.

So, your wife leaves you.
Yeah.

Your kids leave you,
not over an addiction to drugs,

not over an addiction
to alcohol --

over an addiction
of going to a place...

Yeah.

...where there's some
dark spirits that attacked you

and that you brought home
to your children.

Yeah.

Yes.

You brought
your son today, too?

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

He's 6?
Yep. 6 years old.

You're gonna
let me talk to him?

Yeah.
Okay.

From what I'm hearing
from Francisco,

I'm becoming concerned
for the welfare of his son Geno.

I want to talk to him now
to find out more

about this entity that he's been
communicating with.

High-five, dude.
Sweet.

What I wanted to talk with you
about is Dorothy.

Do you remember Dorothy?
Yeah.

Do you remember when you started
playing with Dorothy?

Yeah, a few months ago.

She scratched me
to wake me up.

She came in my room,
woke me up,

asked that she wanted to play,

and I said yes.

She scratched you
and woke you up.

Yeah.
Where did she scratch you?

Not because
she was mean to me --

'cause she wanted me
to play with her.

And it was late. She woke you up
like at 4:30 in the morning.

Yeah. It was kind of like
in the middle of the night.

It was in the middle
of the night.

And you were wide-awake.

You had a lot of energy
to play with her.

Mm-hmm.

I want to show this to you.
You want to watch it?

Okay, look.
Watch that TV right there.

FRANCISCO:
Did she wake you up?

Yeah, she woke me up.

Ohh! Ohh.

Oh! Ow.

That hurt.

Geno, do you remember
that part right there,

where you went back,
and you said, "Oh, that hurt"?

Mm-hmm.

Did Dorothy push you back?
Yeah.

She did?
'cause sometimes she's mean.

Was she there with you?
Yeah.

Could you see her
with your own eyes, Geno?

Yeah.

What does she look like?

She looks like a girl.

Her eyes glow in the dark.

What color?

Green.
Green.

She can make her eyes glow,
only in the dark.

She can make her eyes
glow in the dark.

Do you ever get scared
around Dorothy?

No.

Do you know if she's ever
attacked your daddy?

Yeah. When he's sleeping,
she scratches.

That's why he has
a lot of owwies.

She's really mean to my dad
'cause he's Mexican,

and she doesn't like Mexican.

She doesn't like your dad
because he's Mexican.

Mm-hmm.

We got a racist ghost.

When your dad is sleeping...
Mm-hmm.

...Dorothy
will scratch your dad,

and that's why
he has a lot of owwies?

Yeah. And sometimes
she grabs the stick from outside

and scratches him
with the stick,

sometimes with her claws,
'cause she has very sharp claws.

Okay. Is she here
with you right now?

No.
Okay.

Whew.

You just said something
that gave me a chill.

It gives me goosebumps
to talk about it.

ZAK: I've been talking
to Geno Ferreyra

about the spirit of Dorothy that
he has been interacting with.

It seems to me

that the entity from Bannack
claiming to be Dorothy

may not be as friendly
as Geno thinks.

She couldn't come.

She couldn't come where?

Here, 'cause
she doesn't like traveling.

She doesn't like traveling?

Mnh-mnh.

She doesn't have a mom or a dad,
and she doesn't have a house.

The house got destroyed,
so she made a shelter.

It's near your house.
Well, not near my house.

It's in Bannack.
That's where she used to live.

She used to live in Bannack,
the ghost town.

Mm-hmm.

Wow.

Do you know that house
that got destroyed?

In Bannack?

Yeah.
I do.

That's the house
that she used to live in.

[ Sighs, chuckles ]

Yeah. I know the house.
I've been there.

How did you know all that?
She told me.

How do you hear her?

She can talk.

And you hear her voice?
Mm-hmm.

Tell me about when you found out
that Francisco was lying to you

and he was going back
to Bannack.

He had gone to Bannack
without me knowing

a week or so before that.

And he had said
he was going on some hikes.

But as soon as Geno
started coming up

with these things about Dorothy,
I was like, "Wait a minute."

You know,
it was pretty obvious

that something
had changed again.

I mean, he had been
pretty grumpy again that week

and just kind of back to how
he had come back the first time.

I just...
[ Sighs ]

kind of put two and two together
at that point

and put Geno back to bed
after the whole incident

and didn't really say much
at that point.

But when we went to bed,
I was like,

"You need to tell me
what's going on."

Obviously, Geno's not just gonna
make names up,

pull a name out of a hat

and just come up with this name
that's associated with Bannack.

Like, that's just
not gonna happen.

Right.
And he's like, "Yeah."

You know,
"I had gone on these hikes,

"but I didn't
actually go there.

I went to Bannack,
and we did some investigations."

And...
[ Sighs ]

I was livid.

I was completely livid.
But you're a skeptic.

Well, yeah. I...

I am a skeptic...
"But..."

...I think
because it keeps me sane.

Right.
[ Laughs ]

I think what you just said
explains a lot of skeptics.

A big number of skeptics
are actually believers,

but they don't want to say
they're a believer,

'cause they don't want
to believe in something

that's not
scientifically proven.

Well, and it's not even that.
I mean, I believe in God.

You can't see or feel him,
you know?
Right. True.

That's a great thing
you just said right there.

Yeah.

Are you looking
for answers?

Yeah.

Are you strangely addicted
to the place,

and you don't know why?

Yes.

That's very common.

It's bringing you back.

Well, I can't explain it.
I just --

I just want to be there.

I feel like
part of me belongs there.

It's just a weird feeling.

So, yeah.
I did lie to my wife,

went back there, and...

She just doesn't want me to go
there to try to talk to spirits.

And every time I go there,
weird stuff happens.

Every single time.

Your son has played with
other imaginary friends before

but has never named one,
like Dorothy.

He has named that he has talked
to his grandpa,

which is my husband's dad.

Is your husband's dad
deceased?

Yes.
And he has named him before.

Mm.

So, you just said something
that gave me a chill.

It gives me goosebumps
to talk about it.

Your son has told you

that he is speaking
with your husband's father,

who is deceased.

I try to just laugh it all off,
because I just...

Mm.
Maybe I'm scared to believe?

Yeah, you are.

[ Both laugh ]

That changes a lot.

But I would rather say
I don't believe than to, like...

Mm-hmm.
...commit to
this stuff happening.

Does your son say that he hears
his grandfather talk to him?

Mm-hmm.
He does?

Mm-hmm.

I think maybe
your son has a gift.

I think maybe your son is what
we would call a psychic medium.

Definitely.

You okay?
I'm all right.

Can I ask you
about your grandfather?

Mm-hmm.

Do you see
your grandfather?

Does he ever
come visit you at home?

Sometimes.

Does he talk to you?

Yeah, he says to be good

and don't listen to Dorothy.

But when she's telling me
to do bad things,

I say,
"No, that's not good."

Okay, so,
your grandfather visits you

and tells you
don't listen to Dorothy.

Uh-huh,
and to be good.

He's the one who's nice
to my dad and my mom.

Do you want Dorothy
to go away?

No.

Do you want her to be nicer
to your daddy?

Mm-hmm. I try to make her stop,
but she never does.

Well, I want to say thank you

for coming here
and talking with me.

You're a brave dude.

Cool, man.
Can I get another high-five?

I'll see you later.
Bye.

Look into that camera

and tell everybody
that you're not going back.

I'm only gonna go back --

Unh-unh.
That's not what I said!

I'm gonna go over this again
with you, again,

since you didn't listen to me
the first time.

Number one...

you have a little spirit
say, "Hi, Daddy" to you,

indicating that the spirit
thinks you're its daddy.

Number two, it tried pushing you
down the stairs,

which would have caused you
serious injury or death.

Number three,
you got scratches.

Number four,
your little kid at the time

would wake up
and start playing with a spirit,

obviously the one
that you just had contact with.

Tell me how
we're wanting to go back.

I think it's worse
than a drug sometimes.

I've never done drugs,
but...

it just attracts me.

I, uh...

I just --

Like I said, I just feel like
I want to be there all the time.

You know, I've had many people
sit in that chair,

and they all say
the same exact thing.

What if it's just
an innocent little girl...

Named Dorothy.
...named Dorothy,

that is...

Lost.
...lost, and she needs help.

How can we trust
their voice?

I mean, if this is Dorothy,
she calls you Daddy.

She's playing with your son.
And you have a good heart.

You want to help
this little girl.

But at the same time,
you're like, "Wait a minute.

"Then, why did I
get scratched?

Why did I get pushed almost
down this flight of stairs?"

Your story
is the bigger question

that everybody
in the paranormal field has.

This is a weird life
we live in.

It's already weird enough trying
to figure out our own life.

Now we're trying to figure out
the afterlife, you know?

Can we get some help here,
please, God?

Can you come down here
and sit on "Aftershocks"?

I have some questions for you.
Are these little children?

Are they demons?
Please, can you answer this?

We're not gonna find
those answers.

All that we're gonna find
is rejection from your family.

You're gonna find
a strange addiction.

It's...

It's tough.

What are your plans now?
Are you still going back?

If you say yeah, I'm gonna
get up and walk away.

[ Laughs ] No.
I'm not going back.

Don't look down.
No.

Look into that camera

and tell everybody
that you're not going back.

I'm only gonna go back --

Unh-unh,
that's not what I said!

[ Chuckles ]
There's no going back.

What is --

They have a nice, little pond
to skate on.

A pond to skate.

Are we gonna allow him to
go there to skate on the pond?

Okay.
How about we allow that,

but you can't
go in that building?

Okay.

Okay.
Say that to them.

I won't go back
to the Hotel Meade.

All right.

And, you know, while I made that
a humorous moment,

it's very serious in nature.
Oh, yeah.

And we definitely don't want
a marriage broken up over this.

We don't want
you attacked anymore.

We don't want your son
playing with a little spirit

that we don't know who it is.
And, again, I say that.

It's hard for me to say that,
just like it was hard for you.

You were questioned
whether or not,

what if this
is a little girl

that just needs a family,
needs help?

The problem is, is that when you
invited this spirit back

or it attached itself
to you,

you started getting attacked,
as well.

ZAK:
Hopefully this conversation puts
an end to Francisco's addiction

to the location that is
terrorizing his family.

Now we turn to another home

that has a history
of haunting families --

Thornhaven Manor,
located in Newcastle, Indiana,

which we investigated in 2014.

Steven Miller,
the owner of Thornhaven Manor,

has been surrounded
by the residual energy

left behind from these
horrendous events in this house

since he purchased it in 2012.

While he tries to remain
unaffected by the spirits there,

he tells me
that things are changing.

So, Thornhaven Manor.
Mm-hmm.

It's just, like,
one of those classic

what I would call
mystery homes.

We know it's got some
dark history attached to it.

I mean, there's the case
of Reuben Bailey,

but we couldn't really prove

that that murder
happened in the home.

Yeah.

How have things been
since we've left?

It's kind of interesting
that you call it a mystery house

just because the house
is a mystery to me.

Like, I go in there
and work on it.

And I'll be there by myself,

and I don't have
too much of a problem.

But I don't like being there
by myself at night, at all.

I've never
spent the night there.

Never?
Never,

even though it's supposed to be
my home that I'm restoring.

I don't know
if I can live there now.

And then, one night,
they were all sleeping.

And the mother woke up,

and the daughter was over them
with a knife.

ZAK:
I'm speaking with Steven Miller,

current owner
of Thornhaven Manor.

I've never
spent the night there.

Never?
Never,

even though it's supposed to be
my home that I'm restoring.

I don't know
if I can live there now.

I'm trying to think

of what other things
I can do with the home.

The spirits don't affect you
negatively, do they?

You don't --

It's starting to change.
The more I work on the house,

it's amazing how quickly
it can really take over.

You can get so easily...

Consumed by it.

You can get
consumed by it easily.

And I've heard
other people --

Lot of people come over,
and they're like,

"You're really normal
for owning a home like this."

And I think it's because
I keep it at a distance.

You know, when I'm there,
I do stuff.

When I'm there by myself,
I don't ask questions.

Let me ask you
about a woman named Tiffany.

The previous owners that were
selling Thornhaven Manor,

the lady refused
to sell the home to her

because she had children.

Right. It was always strange
from the beginning

when I bought it
through the Realtor,

'cause the couple that sold it
to me refused to talk to me.

Any questions I had
had to go through the Realtor.

And then, it was just
house-specific --

you know,
the roof, the plumbing.

They wouldn't
answer anything.

So, you know now
what was going on, right?

Yeah, so, she wrote me and said,
"Oh, I was gonna buy the house,

and we were excited about it,
saw it,

had been there
a couple times,

and then, basically,
I mentioned I had children."

And the lady's like, "Oh, no.
Children can't live here."

Tiffany Johnson
has had a traumatic experience

at Thornhaven Manor.

I talked to her
about this event now

and the effects
that it's had on her.

So, you were gonna buy
Thornhaven Manor?

At one point, yes.

At one point?
Mm-hmm.

So tell me exactly --

you know, you were trying
to buy the house,

and what this lady said.

Well, I was very interested in
the house.

Very old, beautiful home.

And we were
going through the house.

And she asked me
if I had children.

And I said yes.

She said, "No way.
I will not sell it to you.

[ Scoffs ]
"I will not sell it to you.

"There is no amount of money
you can ask me.

I won't sell it.
I want you to leave."

She wanted me out.

And, so, she got me out of
the house and down the driveway.

And she told me
about a story

of some relatives of hers
that had lived in the home.

And the daughter
started acting out real bad.

And then, one night,
they were all sleeping,

and the mother woke up,

and the daughter was over them
with a knife.

Mm.

And that was it.

They said,
"We're moving out. We're done."

And, so, she said

she just would not sell it
to anyone with children.

So, then, that got me curious,
and I went back.

And I took my son with me.

And I made him
stay in the vehicle.

I didn't want him
going up there,

because that house scares me.
It really does.

The property in general
scares me.

So why are you
going back there?

Because I like
to face my fears, so...

I can relate.
[ Both laugh ]

It gets me in trouble
sometimes, but...

So, what happened?

I was in the front
of the house,

like, off to the far side
of the porch.

I started feeling
real sickly --

not scared, just sick.

It just felt like
I wasn't there by myself.

And I look down,
and I see my son.

And he looks like
he's upset.

And I look around,
and I look back,

and I see two red eyes.

The noise that I heard with it
was just a growl.

Outside of the house?
Outside of the house.

When I got to the vehicle,

he said he couldn't get
the door to open on the van.

And there wasn't
anything wrong with it.

There was no reason
why he couldn't.

Caleb York, Tiffany's son,

shared this horrific experience
with his mother.

I hear his side
of the story now.

So, I was just talking
with your mom.

Yes.

She told me
when she got to the house,

that you saw
the same red eyes.

Yes.
Well, my mom was up there.

And when I saw the eyes -- And
she had obviously saw them, too,

'cause she was heading back.
And I tried to open the doors.

Couldn't open
the sliding doors.

By the time I got up
to open the doors to get out,

she was already down there.

You saw these eyes where?

Up by the area
close to where the garage is,

where it goes down.

Okay. And are you sure
it wasn't an animal?

I'm sure.
Okay.

What color were the eyes?
Red.

Did you get scratched?

Yes, I did.
Where at?

It was a mark
from probably the mid-back

all the way down
to my hips area.

Did anything else happen
when you left or got home,

any weird stuff going on
following you or anything?

Right after we had gotten home,
nothing really happened.

And, like, as it went on,
it seemed like things started

to get a little eerie
around my house.

Like, I was having
trouble sleeping.

I was having nightmares.
They'd be about the same thing.

Like, I'd wake up,

and I would see somebody
in the corner of my room.

And then I would wake up,
sweating.

And this was right after
that whole thing happened?

Yeah.

So, let me ask you
a question now.

Are you still going over there
with your buddies?
No.

I probably won't ever
go back there.

Scared you.
Yeah.

Petrifies me.
Yeah.

Are you happy your mom
didn't buy that house?

Um, yes. Very happy.

You know,
a place like that

where there's
so many different stories,

you seem to not let
any of this energy affect you.

I made a very conscious effort
once things started happening.

I'm like, "I can easily
get sucked into this."

And there was an instance
when I was actually

working on the house,
and I heard my front door open.

And then I heard, like,
heavy boots coming towards me.

When it gets that real,
it turns from,

"Oh, I think
I'm hearing something,"

to "Crap.
Someone's in my house."

Right.

And I stop myself in mid-track.
I'm like, "You know what?

I'll be doing this the rest of
my life if I don't let this go."

I can't constantly
be investigating.
Mm-hmm.

And so I just turned around
and went back to work.

'cause one of the things
that I knew it wasn't real

is you can't open
my front door.

My front door has a big iron bar
that's across the front of it.

If you watch our show, when we
put up an unexplained noise,

an unexplained door slam,
unexplained footsteps,

we hear it all the time
in these locations.

Yeah.
And we call them unexplained

because we don't know
if a ghost is making the sound.

Is an animal picking up
a sledgehammer and banging?

Uh, we don't believe so.

So it's a spirit.

You're telling me a story
about you hear a door slam.

Mm-hmm.
And you hear boot steps.

And people
are listening like,

"No, I want to hear
someone get scratched.

I want to hear someone
get possessed."

People don't understand
that those sounds...

When you're actually there,
and you're by yourself,

and you're in that room,

and you hear footsteps
walking towards you,

those noises
are sometimes scarier

than anything else
that you will ever experience.

The unknown's
always scarier

than when you got something
you're confronting face-to-face.

Exactly,
because I believe

those noises were meant by those
entities for you to hear.

And a lot of times,
with those noises,

you feel things.
Right.

You feel things
that you just can't put

into words that other people
are gonna explain.

You feel
whatever made those noises.

And that's interesting
that you bring up feelings,

because that's one of the things
I always try to control

when I'm there.

I just have
that kind of theory.

It's like, if anything bad
is gonna happen to you,

it's because you have to
let yourself open up to that.

Absolutely. 100%.
And, so, when I'm at the home,

I really try really hard
to keep calm when things happen.

If I react, I try to,
you know, quickly calm down,

and different things
like that.

'Cause I'm like, this house
isn't gonna affect me.

I'm the one
who owns the house.

Right.

And so I try
to keep that in mind.

I kind of feel like
the caretaker of this home.

My purpose with this
is to fix it up, make it nicer,

get it out there historically
so people understand

what's happened there
and how significant it is.

And so, hopefully,
when I'm gone,

the next generation
is gonna take care of it.

And, so, that's
what's important to me.

So, do you think, when you were
down here in the tunnel,

do you think
it followed you back home?

Steven, there's no doubt
about it.

It followed me to the house
that I live right now.

ZAK: New information has come
to light surrounding Thornhaven.

Steven tells me
about a recent paranormal event

that is connected to the
poisoning of the Bailey family

and its survivor,
a pregnant Malita Bailey.

There's a legend associated with
the house about a pregnant woman

that you stumbled upon
or you heard about.

The story of pregnancy has to go
back to Frank Thurman's victim.

Ah, okay.

Frank Thurman is Reuben Bailey's
son-in-law.

Okay.

And he ended up trying to kill
his sister-in-law

because he ended up
raping her.

And it was all hush-hush,
but then she became pregnant.

And so, he thought the way to
get rid of her and the problem

would be to kill her.

But he was sloppy, and he ended
up poisoning the whole family.

This new information
is even more shocking

because of the evidence captured
by investigator Jada Craig

that links the events together.

Tell me about
your experience at Thornhaven,

and how it kind of
opened you up a little bit.

'Cause I'm seeing that
everybody that goes there

definitely has experiences.

What happened
with you there?

I had actually
been there twice.

The first time
was back in 2012.

We had went
to the blue room,

and my aunt was just randomly
taking photos.

to see if we could capture
anything in the photos.

And it wasn't until after we had
left and went back outside

and started going back
through them, did we see those.

So, let's talk
about this photo.

Can you tell me about it?
Why is this weird to you?

What is strange here is,

in the photo on the right,
it looks as though I'm pregnant.

Mm-hmm. Right.

I'm clearly not.

The left image is just
moments before the right.

Mm-hmm. Right.

While this illusion occurs,

there is some type of an anomaly
there in the circle.

And when you do magnify it,
it does look like a creepy face.

It does.

Now, there is
a thing called matrixing

where you just make faces

out of jumbled, you know,
grainy photos.

However, this one
is a little bit different to me.

Definitely creepy-looking,
because you can see --

Who's this?
That's my mother.

You can see your mother's coat
right here.

And it just
doesn't make sense to me,

you know, how this would form
in that area of her coat.

It does look like a face.

I was baffled and amazed
and scared at the same time.

You know, in a piece of evidence
like this,

I can't make assumptions.

It's basically up to everybody
for their own opinions on this.

Do you see a face?
Is this matrixing?

Is this a spirit?

Is this spirit also giving the
illusion that you are pregnant?

Does this
have something to do

with all the hauntings
that are going on

and the dark entity
that's in the house?

I mean, these are just
all the questions

that come with strange events
and strange photos.

What happened
after this photo?

After this photo,

I feel like there's something
around me all the time,

whether it be one or many.

Sorry.
[ Chuckles ]

[ Sighs ]

Is it from
you being there that night?

I don't know.

Does it bother you?

At times, it does bother me.

I try not to get
too scared with it

and try to make sense of it.

But there are times
where I'm frightened.

Mm-hmm.

Sometimes I feel like
there's a child present.

And I told my mother
that, you know,

I feel like I need to go back to
Thornhaven 'cause I feel like --

I felt like
there was something with me

that shouldn't have been.

Yeah.
It's a creepy place.

It's very creepy.

Something has had to have
happened in that house

that has opened it up
to evil.

This is just
a gigantic puzzle

that I don't know if it's ever
gonna be figured out.

But all of this information
is starting to accumulate now.

And people that don't know
about the other people --

their stories
are starting to match,

all involving
something very dark and evil.

Well, thanks for coming here
and sharing that photo.

You're welcome. Thank you.
Yeah, you're welcome.

Nice meeting you.
Thank you very much.

Since this interview, a longtime
neighbor of Thornhaven Manor

reached out to Steven
with compelling information

about a tunnel
from the Underground Railroad

that runs through his property.

So, when did you first find the
actual entrance to the tunnel?

It's been
well over 20 years ago,

but I used to rabbit-hunt
back here.

We had wheat lights with us,

and you could light up
the whole tunnel.

And I saw something dark
go across the tunnel.

Hmm.

And I just thought, "Hey,
we're close to an entrance,"

you know, 'cause I just saw
something go by.

So, we get over there, and
there's no place for it to go.

[ Chuckles ]

So, we were like, "What the heck
was that," you know?

So, we just blew it off
and left.

Then I finally got the nerve
to go back again,

and I didn't see the shadow
this time.

But I heard some noises
way back in there

that was just like somebody
was whispering something.

And so I stopped to make sure I
was hearing what I was hearing.

And I decided
I'm getting out of here.

And then I turned around.

And as I was going,

I felt a big thump
on the back of my leg.

And I turned around
and shined the light,

and there was nothing there.

And this shadow has been
in and out of my life

ever since that happened.

Oh, really?
Oh, yeah.

So, do you think when you were
down here in the tunnel,

do you think
it followed you back home?

Steven, there's no doubt
about it.

It followed me to the house
that I live in right now.

Do you think you would go back
in there if I opened it back up?

Yeah, if you go with me.

[ Laughs ]
Sure will.

If you go with me, I'll go.
You first. Okay.

I'll go. Yep. Sure will.

ZAK:
Some people are compelled

to be around places
that are negative at its core

despite the repercussions.

I feel like I'm just obsessed
with that place.

I don't know
if I can live there now.

All I can do is share my
experiences with these people

and hope that they take what
I've learned through the years

as a warning.

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