Ghost Adventures: Aftershocks (2014–…): Season 1, Episode 3 - Salem Witch House - full transcript
LAWSON: Help me!
Man: Do you hear me?
It won't let me!
ZAK: The last several years,
we have explored many locations.
We have met
hundreds of people...
MAN:
The work you do is so valuable.
ZAK: ...many who have been
deeply affected by our investigations.
Bridget! It just said "Bridget"!
ZAK: Are these dark spirits
still plaguing these places...
MAN: No.
...and harming these people?
Did it just say "run"?
It said "run."
It said "run."
It's time to find out.
GHOST ADVENTURES - AFTERSHOCKS - SEASON 1
EP 3 - Salem Witch House
Salem, Massachusetts,
is a city that is steeped
in magical energy
stemming from warlocks
like our friend Christian Day.
In 2011, we traveled there
to investigate the Witch House
and Lyceum restaurant,
which yielded some of
the most profound evidence
that we've ever received.
Bridget! Bridget!
It just said "Bridget"!
ZAK: It was here
where I met Christian Day,
a warlock
who is deeply connected
with spirits and the afterlife
through ritual magic.
We call him back
to learn new insights
about these connections
since our investigation.
Hello. Good to see you again.
DAY: Good to see you.
How are you? Very good.
So, Christian, why do people
fear ritual magic?
Well, because it works.
Magic gives us the power to
take control of our own lives.
And so it attracts
both people who are able
to take that control
and sometimes people
who probably shouldn't.
You know, the idea of magic
is that we're able to exert
an energy out into the world
that changes
the world around us.
Mm-hmm.
And that's very powerful,
but it is also very threatening.
Now, when we were in Salem,
we were investigating
the Salem witch trials
and in particular
Bridget Bishop, I believe,
was the first one executed.
We started this ritual with you.
And I didn't think
we really truly knew
what we were
getting ourselves into.
Let's first start by watching
the first part of the ritual.
DAY: Death is but a doorway
through which we all pass.
The yew wand is
the wand of the dead.
[ Sighs ]
Open the gate, open the way,
bring us the spirits tonight.
And with three drops
of my blood...
[ Sighs ]
...an ancient blood sacrifice
was our own.
We did not sacrifice children.
And now each of you
will face your mortality
in your own term,
for each of you here tonight
is going to die some day.
For those spirits
that you seek, you...
look into the eyes
of your own mortality.
Now, Christian, we agreed
to participate in the ritual.
After that ritual,
I would probably say
that we may have gotten
a little bit deeper in tune
with the spirit world.
DAY: May the spirits see you
as one of their own,
a creature of the other world.
Did you put a spell on us
that night?
Absolutely.
I really wanted to
bring each of you
into communion with the spirits
in a way
that you would understand
what it was
you are dealing with.
It's one thing
to experiment with equipment,
but you have now crossed
into a place
where you're
directly interacting.
And it's very powerful.
And when I was on your show,
and I went over to Aaron,
and I said, "You know,
you're kind of the jokester."
I said, "But in reality,
you have the most power
"to actually command the spirits
and actually take charge
and be the protector
of these other people."
Don't give him an ego.
AARON: [ Chuckles ]
You can look at this with jest,
but you, too, shall be
what you see before you
as you face your own mortality.
Are you friends
with Bloody Mary?
Bloody Mary has been
a great friend of mine
for about 10 years.
He thinks Bloody Mary
put a spell on him.
To get laid?
No.
Okay, 'cause that's her thing.
He needs that, too.
[ Laughs ]
She's good at that.
Yeah, you may... Okay.
AARON: What?
But when we investigated
her house,
Aaron thinks that Bloody Mary
did some kind of a spell
in her ritual
before his investigation
that has messed with him
for months.
Another person who aided
in our investigations
is voodoo queen Bloody Mary.
Take care of my friends here,
my spirits.
ZAK:
We investigated her home in 2013
and Aaron hasn't
been the same since.
Now, we just interviewed
your friend Christian Day.
Mm-hmm.
And he does ritual magic.
You do voodoo.
And this is why I like to
follow up with you on this show
is now we get to know deeper
about these rituals that you do.
And, you know, it helps us.
It gives Aaron closure, too.
What everybody needs to
understand is
these rituals that we're doing
on camera on our show...
MARY: Are real.
...they're not produced.
They're not just
for entertainment value.
You're opening up these portals
to the spirit world,
and anything can happen to us,
and it does.
Before we get into your house,
which was one of the craziest...
Excuse my French...
[bleep] experiences...
[ Chuckles ] Can you say that?
...for not me
but for Aaron and Nick.
Aaron claims
that something from the home
has affected him
in months after.
AARON: After we left your house
and the lockdown,
I was scared for a long while.
For nine months,
I was pretty much...
Just had the worst luck.
I got very, very depressed
to the point
where I was just numb.
I couldn't get out of
this dark sludge, I call it.
I kept seeing my death.
I kept seeing, like,
me driving down the street
with my buddy Bacon in the car
and a car coming,
and we basically just crash.
[ Crash ]
So, it kind of spooked me
to the point where I just
kind of, like, stopped driving,
didn't really leave my house.
I was in such a funk
that it took me
about nine months
of pretty hard-core depression.
So, what I did is I pretty much
just stayed in my shell
and let time just go by.
Do you do any cleansings?
I don't ever do cleansing.
But this time,
about seven months into it,
I called upon
a really close friend of mine.
She's a real Wicca,
real good with auras.
And she came in and kind of
just took that black sludge off.
After the nine months,
I started feeling better.
Just today, I watched
the episode at my house.
And all of a sudden,
in that episode,
when the lights
started flickering
and the books fell off
the shelf,
all my lights in my house in the
kitchen just started going...
[Imitates buzzing]
just flickering down.
I was like, "Whoa!"
And it was pretty crazy.
So, I definitely know
the power of the voodoo.
I definitely know
you can get yourself
in a lot of trouble.
I warned you about that.
ZAK: In 2013, we investigated
the residence
of voodoo queen Bloody Mary,
located
in New Orleans, Louisiana.
She gave us access
to the spirit world that night
to help us interact
with the unknown.
I opened the gates.
And we asked for that.
When we participate in a ritual,
we ask for that
and we understand
the consequences.
But, I mean, I just called
my regular house spirits...
Spirits of the South,
spirits of the North.
I even call some of the spirits
that I constantly interact on.
I was saying my stuff,
and Nick, in the background,
interjects very loudly,
"And the malevolent ones, too?"
And he is the one
that got the brunt of it.
I even told him that after.
I said, "You're the one
that asked for it."
He said, "You're right."
NICK: Oh [bleep]
AARON: What?
Look at me.
Right when I walked
in the living room,
I felt a presence.
Bloody Mary is
the most magical person
I've ever met.
And her power is to the spirits.
ZAK:
When we investigated her home,
things happened
with Aaron and Nick
that is some of
our most powerful evidence.
Billy, show that whole clip.
Spirits of the south,
the spirits of fire...
When Bloody Mary
opens the circle to the spirits,
it is Nick and Aaron's job
to document evidence
of whoever greets them,
good or evil.
...Angels, we call you
to come and dance with us,
all the spirits,
all the ancestors.
And angels that are there.
[ Bell jingling ]
Open the way.
[ Rattling ]
The ancestors in your family
who have come before
on your father's side
and your mother's side
and those not yet born.
We have Madam Aloray.
We have Julie.
And we have many that
we may not know their names.
They have been here before
and followed us home.
We ask you to come again.
DAY: Mary specifically connected
Aaron with the ancestors.
Is that dangerous?
All spiritual work
is dangerous.
I know.
What she did with Aaron was not
all that dissimilar
from what I did. Right.
It was a connection
to the spirit world.
Some of the evidence that we
collected at your house was...
There was a lot... powerful.
Way more than you actually got
to put on the show.
Yes.
There was stuff that happened
like as soon
as they walked in the door.
Weird things going on
that they said never went on.
It was powerful, Bloody Mary.
I mean, we were trying
to debunk things, as we do...
Mm-hmm... but we couldn't.
We tried to debunk those books
falling off the shelf,
but we couldn't.
We had another camera angle
on Nick
to show that he did not
bump that when he came back.
Right.
He was away from it,
standing still.
Right.
And that's when he moved back
and three books...
Three... flew at him.
But watching it later on,
a few days later,
I was like, "Holy cow!"
I want to replay that
to refresh all of our minds.
ZAK: Anybody in there?
AARON: Are there any
negative energies in here?
Oh [bleep]
What? What?
What? [Bleep]
Holy [bleep]
Bro, the lights
just turned on and off.
Everything is coming
all over the place.
Something growled at me
in there.
I'm not kidding, Aaron. Get up.
ZAK: As Nick turns this corner,
he hears
a very loud hissing sound
and feels a very negative
presence push towards him,
causing him to retreat.
Oh [bleep]
AARON: What?
ZAK: Nick settles right here,
and he's standing
absolutely still
when this negative energy
rushes at him again.
AARON: What? What? [Bleep]
ZAK: At this exact moment,
these books
begin to fly off the shelves,
and Aaron also notices
an unexplained light appear
right where all of
this poltergeist activity
is occurring.
[Bleep] Holy [bleep]
[Bleep] Holy [bleep]
Stop. I went in there.
Wait. Listen. It's moving.
Nick now hears a dish moving
in the kitchen.
Stop. Something...
I went in there.
Wait. Listen. It's moving.
...moving.
...moving.
Was that in your kitchen?
No. No?
Tell us after this.
At first, we try to debunk
the books
falling off the shelves
as possibly
Nick bumping into them,
but thankfully this X camera
caught a very important angle.
During the melee
of Nick retreating
from the hissing sound,
you can see him stop right here
in front of the bookcase...
No books.
...and at this time,
no books fly off the shelves...
Both hands on his camera.
...ruling out that
Nick bumped into the bookcase.
His right hand's strapped
into his camera.
And when the books fell is
what prompted him to move back.
Right.
That is some of our most
shocking evidence to date.
I got to talk about the dishes.
The way my house is set up,
it's a very long,
kind of big house.
My kitchen is way the hell
in the back.
Yeah.
It's nowhere near
the front temple room.
And being that there were
film crews there for two days,
there were no dishes
in the sink.
[ Laughs ] So,
what do you think that was?
I'm going to show you.
MARY: I am entering my temple,
my private voodoo temple.
When our friends were here,
they thought they heard dishes
in the sink.
The kitchen is so far away.
The books were falling
off the shelves.
What they did not know,
as they entered,
were my spirit pots
that house the spirits.
And if the spirits are entering
or, perhaps,
in this case, agitated,
you might hear noise,
for they're made...
[ Clinking ]
Oh, wow.
MARY: ...out of ceramic...
Seemingly hollow, empty jars.
And that is
what they sound like.
ZAK: Sounds just like it.
Makes a lot of sense.
So, we couldn't see those.
MARY: No, you didn't know
they were there.
Tucked in the back.
There. See there?
[ Jar clinks ]
Wow. That sounds like it.
Yeah,
'cause you couldn't hear...
It wasn't dishes.
It was... You know?
Yeah, you couldn't hear...
That makes so much sense now.
This is what this is all about,
trying to help us...
Piece it together more.
Yeah, piece it together.
MARY: Mystery of
the kitchen noises revealed.
[ Jar clinks ]
[ Jar clinks ]
[ Jar clinks ]
What a spirit pot?
Govi jars...
In voodoo,
or in a lot of traditions,
but mainly in voodoo,
you would get a...
They're really empty jars
but not empty.
You know, if you looked at them,
you wouldn't see anything,
per se,
but they go through
the ritual initiation with you.
If I'm doing a consultation,
a healing, a cleansing,
whatever I'm doing,
as I'm sitting
in my temple room,
I feed the pots...
A little rum,
a little something...
And it gives it temporary
housing for the loas,
the angels, the ancestors...
Whoever it is that's coming in
to help assist with the reading.
So, it's kind of like
a spirit jar.
And I had not specifically
called them,
but many of
those spirits, obviously,
came here to the pots
and were r-rattling
and kind of warning you,
"Eh, out you go, guys.
Time to go," or whatever it was.
Wait. Listen. It's moving.
[ Jar clinks ]
ZAK: We're talking
to warlock Christian Day
about how ritual magic
can affect a person
and, in turn, an investigation,
like it did to ours
when we were in Salem,
Massachusetts, in 2011.
There's different stages
of interacting with the dead.
And I believe that we graduated
from a more amateur level.
What you all went through
that night
was a form of initiation.
Into witchcraft or paganism?
Not into witchcraft or paganism,
but into spirit.
All initiation is
an initiation of the spirit,
whether it's voodoo, witchcraft,
Catholicism,
Masonic tradition...
All of those traditions
that confirm or initiate you
into this next level
of spiritual awareness,
there is a thread that goes
through all of them.
And so, it's not about
becoming a witch.
It's about becoming aware.
It's opening up
your sixth sense...
Absolutely.
...to a deeper understanding
and a deeper realm
of this other world.
That's what we're telling you is
that we felt the after effects
of this spell
that you put on us.
But it wasn't
just us feeling things.
It was us receiving
some very, very compelling,
concrete evidence
of Bridget Bishop.
I would like to play
the evidence that we got
that was extremely shocking.
She gave us her first
and last name on cue.
We are in the midst of highly
effective pagan ritual
inside the Witch House.
With the aid of Christian Day,
a real-life warlock,
we've been able to
capture spirit voices
through our highly sensitive
Spirit Box.
We believe these voices
belong to the victims
of the infamous
Salem witch trials.
What is your name?
[ Oscillating static ]
Bridget! Bridget!
It just said "Bridget"!
And I heard that.
Did you hear that?
NICK: Yeah.
Bridget, what is your last name?
[ Oscillating static ]
Bishop! Bishop!
Oh, my God!
I'd like you to tell me
exactly what you did
because I understand that you're
gonna let us know something.
Well, witches are a little bit
mischievous at times.
And I really wanted to give
the best I could give, you know?
When you asked me
to be on the show,
I said,
"Well, I have to bring it."
And when you're looking for
the victims of the trials,
the last place
they want to hang out
is the home
of one of the judges.
So, I'm thinking,
"Well, how is this gonna work?
How am I going to really get
these spirits to show up?"
So I planned
a necromantic ritual
that would call up the spirits.
The Lyceum is extremely haunted.
Every TV show that goes there
has equipment failures,
they have
all kinds of things happen.
Why didn't we have
much evidence there?
Well, because I gamed
the system.
I told, you know, the people
at "Ghost Adventures",
"I really want to do
the Witch House,
but it's not very haunted,
but it will be when I'm done."
Your team is already
in the house.
Elizabeth's standing
out in the yard
waiting with Kelly and I.
So I grabbed Kelly's hand,
and I pointed it
in the direction of the Lyceum,
which is only down the street.
And I said,
"Bridget Bishop, if you have
ever enjoyed working with me,
if you've ever enjoyed
"the spiritual relationship
we've had,
"give them no audience,
give them no show,
give them nothing."
So you took the spirits
from the Lyceum from us.
[ Laughs ] Well, I didn't...
That's why we didn't get
good evidence at the Lyceum.
Well, sort of, yeah.
Listen to me.
Did you bring Bridget Bishop
to the Witch House?
I did not ask Bridget
to come to the Witch House.
I merely asked her
to leave the Lyceum.
But now, in retrospect,
where else was she gonna go?
And as I saw on TV,
which of course I didn't know
until I saw it,
all of your equipment
began to go crazy
when we walked in the room.
Yeah, it did, actually.
Witches are magnets of energy.
When we walk into a room,
it's going to bring out
what's there.
Yeah, the device,
we had to power off
because it was going to crazy.
Oh, absolutely.
And it didn't do anything
until you showed up with Kelly.
[ PX device speaking
indistinctly ]
The PX device that I'd had
in my pocket earlier,
which hadn't made
a single noise,
started going crazy
as soon as the warlock and witch
entered the house.
I didn't want it
to interfere with their ritual,
so I turned it off.
PX DEVICE: Off.
[ Rattling ]
Lord of the dead
who guides the spirits
to the realms beyond,
give the people here tonight
vision
of what lies within these walls,
for death is but a doorway
through which we all pass.
I'm kind of having fun with it,
and some people
watching the show
didn't understand why
we were laughing and smiling.
It's because when Bridget Bishop
came out of that box...
Bridget! Bridget!
It just said "Bridget"!
DAY: ...all I could think of
was what I had just done
outside in the yard.
ZAK: So that's
what your expression was.
I wanted the Witch House
to steal the show.
Do you believe that
that was Bridget Bishop?
Absolutely.
You believe that was
her spirit that came through?
Absolutely.
That's why it was so great.
We didn't just prove
the existence of spirits
on that episode.
We proved the existence
of magic.
We made that happen.
We took a place
that wasn't haunted.
We made it haunted.
We took a place that
no victim of the witch trials
would hang out at,
and she came to visit.
ZAK: We've seen
compelling interactions
between us and the spirit world
amplified with the help
from warlock Christian Day...
...and voodoo queen Bloody Mary.
NICK: Oh [bleep]
ZAK: It comes to our attention
that the investigators
aboard the U.S.S. Hornet
have been having even more
personal interactions
with the spirits on the ship
since our investigation.
The U.S.S. Hornet saw action
in over 100 battles.
And it was also the last stop
for over 300 men.
[ Door slams ]
We know that war
can leave lasting effects
on the people
who are engaged in it.
And as we found out
during our investigation
at the U.S.S. Hornet,
[ Siren wailing ]
the effects of war last long
after flesh and bone are gone.
What's left behind is
a massive paranormal energy.
[Bleep] this, bro.
Twin sisters
Kris and Heidi Schave
have had intense experiences
at the U.S.S. Hornet
with these trapped souls
since our last visit there.
We sit down with Kris
to learn about a new tragedy
recently discovered
on board the ship.
So, how are you doing?
I'm good.
Are you still working there?
I am.
How long has it been?
God, Probably since...
I think I want to say 2007.
Were you involved in discovering
the new suicide
that happened
in the forecastle area?
'Cause I find that
really interesting
that you just discovered
about this.
I was involved in the sense
where I'm the one that actually
had seen the entity up there.
You saw the entity?
I did. Yes. In the forecastle?
Do you believe
that this is the entity
that was recently discovered,
the former crewman?
I think so.
What happened?
About a year ago,
I was down in the forecastle.
And I glanced up
at the crew berthing area,
which is on top.
And I saw a young gentleman...
I want to say 19, 20...
In the peacoat...
Really?
...and a hat walking around.
And I kind of thought,
"Who is this?
Like, is someone working
up there?"
But you could tell.
I mean, he just looked
very official Navy,
and it wasn't somebody working,
a docent.
And he looked behind him
and then just disappeared.
It would almost be better
to try and tell them
that the battle is over,
that there's no more war,
you know?
That, "You can move on
if you'd like."
Is that a goal, do you believe?
It is, and it should be.
I have to say, they like you
'cause we do
mention you sometimes
and we definitely get action.
So, I don't know
what that means.
[ Laughs ]
You get action
when you mention me?
[ Laughs ]
Well, yeah, I mean the...
The activity. Yes.
Now, when the activity happens,
what kind of activity
reacts to my name?
This was
in the outermost quarters.
We're sitting there,
and we're just kind of...
I said,
"Do you remember so-and-so?
Do you know who I am?"
So, yeah, we also will say,
"Turn the flashlight off
if you like Zak."
Woman: Oh!
Can you turn the light back on?
Can you turn the light back on?
Can you turn the light back on?
It's sad to know
that so many sailors,
so many servicemen in that time
were just trapped out at sea
dealing with isolation.
You can't get off this ship.
And it's sad that so many people
that serve our country
commit suicide,
and they're taking this
sacrifice with their own life
by serving our country.
And it's sad that an enemy's
not even killing them.
It's the enemy inside of them.
ZAK: Gary Harbaugh is
an educational volunteer
at the U.S.S. Hornet
and a Navy veteran.
His connection
to the spirits on the ship
was almost instantaneous.
Now, you served in the Navy?
Yes, I'm retired Navy.
Oh. Thank you for serving our country,
sir. Thank you. I appreciate that.
When you began working
at the U.S.S. Hornet,
did you believe in ghosts
or were you as active
in ghost-hunting
and investigating
the paranormal as you are now?
I believed in it because
I have ever since I was a child.
And I had an experience
when I first started working
on the Hornet.
Matter of fact,
it was within the first night
or second night
that I slept onboard,
which was just below
the afterbrow
where you come on board.
One deck below that is
where the cabin is at.
What happened?
I was off to sleep,
and, all of a sudden,
I was awakened by the sound
of the boatswain's pipe.
[ Whistle blows ]
What is that?
If you were going to
general quarters
or anything else aboard a ship,
the boatswain would sound
the pipe off
and then announce
directly after that
either, "General quarters,
general quarters.
Well, that's what I was hearing
was the boatswain's pipe.
[ Whistle blows ]
And, I mean, it sounded like
it was right outside my hatch.
So I get out of the bunk
and went over, opened the hatch,
and the passageway out front
was lit and nothing there.
So I went back to bed.
About a half an hour later,
same thing again.
[ Whistle blows ]
You heard it again? Again.
And I bailed out of the bunk,
straight to the door,
opened it... Nothing there.
Was it loud?
Loud.
[ Whistle blows ]
And I'm starting to think,
"Well, maybe it's coming off the
ships
that are berthed next door,"
or what have you.
Right, right.
But then, it dawned on me...
The ships
that are berthed next door
are no longer Navy vessels.
They wouldn't have anything
on board.
Mm-hmm.
And that's when I kind of
sat back with it.
And the third time it happened,
I was awake
the rest of the night.
I didn't go back to sleep.
These men, in that time, took
their own lives on this ship
because either they were
just in extreme isolation,
they felt trapped,
they couldn't escape the ship,
or possibly
they were being tormented
by some other crew members.
Yeah.
How many of these spirits
that you believe are on the ship
died from suicide?
When you take a ship,
and you put it to sea,
especially in wartime,
and it doesn't see dock
for over a year,
these guys are on board
for that length of time.
And you're talking servicemen
that are
18, 19, 20, 21 years old.
They're still kids.
And, all of a sudden now,
they're stuck on this ship
for a long period of time.
Something's gonna happen.
You see, I'm a big believer
in our bodies obviously operate
through different
electric impulses.
And when you trigger an event
for a spirit to react
or interact,
I believe that we are able
to visually see
a spirit's energy go into
a very active mode.
When that energy
gets inside of us,
I believe
that it can also effect
our own electrical systems...
Oh, I agree.
...and the beating
of our own hearts.
I agree. I had just gone to bed.
And it was about
2:00 in the morning.
All the lights were out.
And when the lights go out
aboard the aircraft carrier,
the lights go out.
All of a sudden, out of nowhere,
it went sub-zero
in my sleeping bag instantly.
And at the same time,
my heart was just beating like
it was gonna come out of me.
And my first thought was,
"My God, I'm having
a heart attack."
[ Heart beating rapidly ]
And all of a sudden, it was gone
as fast as it started...
The cold, the heartbeat,
everything.
Did you think this was medical?
I didn't know.
I didn't know at that point.
But it took about 30 seconds,
and I sure got an indication
'cause it happened again,
only more intense.
I bailed out of the bunk,
flipped the lights on.
My statement was,
"The ship's yours."
I was dressed.
I threw everything
in my locker, locked it,
and I was off the ship
in less than 10 minutes.
Were you hearing
or seeing anything?
No, but what I firmly believe
to this day is
whatever happened
and whatever it was
[ Heart beating rapidly ]
literally laid down
on top of me, and I had it.
Have you had any more
of those episodes?
No, and I'll tell you why.
Because every time I go
into my cabin now,
the first thing I do is request
permission to come on board,
and I use the word "sir."
Since that time,
I've never had an episode since.
ZAK:
Kris' twin sister, Heidi Schave,
is the educational director
at the U.S.S. Hornet.
She is here to discuss activity
that's happened on the ship
since we've last seen her.
Hello. HEIDI: Hi.
How you been?
Good. How have you been?
Good.
When did we come there?
How long ago was that?
2011?
That was the first time
that we ever went back in time
to serve for the Navy to
look for ghosts. That's right.
So, how's it been since we left?
You know,
it's been very exciting.
We've actually had
a lot more activity happening.
I noticed when you investigated
in 2011,
you used an alarm.
[ Siren wailing ]
We're under attack.
We're under attack.
Get to your stations
immediately.
Get to your stations.
And I know
that kind of stirred stuff.
So what I did was
I actually went
and found
that we could actually do
our original
general-quarters alarm,
which would be
the World War II battle siren.
"General quarters,
general quarters."
[ Alarm ringing ]
MAN: This is not a drill.
General quarters.
General quarters.
All hands,
man your battle stations.
We activated that up
so we could actually, you know,
when we pull that at night,
that actually works wonders.
Did our investigation,
when we did that, inspire this?
It did. It did.
I borrowed your methodology.
Oh, very cool.
Now, do you think
that sounding the alarm
is keeping these spirits there
and keeping them thinking
that they're in battle?
Yes.
[ Alarm ringing ]
So, if they did hear that alarm,
and we were back in the 1940s,
'50s on that ship
during this alarm,
you could basically feel and see
the intensity on these crewmen.
After we sounded the alarm,
which would simulate an attack
when they were out at sea,
we did capture something,
an anomaly that was
really interesting.
It was, like, spinning.
And we've never seen
anything like it.
And then it slowly just moves
down the hallway.
Take a look at it.
[ Siren wailing ]
ZAK: We're under attack.
Get to your stations.
Seven minutes
after we sounded the siren
and took off down the corridor,
our static night-vision camera
in the Broadway area
captured
this unexplained energy form
as it manifested
in the center of the doorway
and then shot past the camera.
And what makes this
really unique
is that you can see
this anomaly hover still
about 20 feet from the camera
as it begins to energize itself.
Then it twists like a tornado
with light resonating
from the center
as it shoots toward the camera.
We have never captured or seen
anything like this before.
Was this energy form a spirit
trying to manifest itself
during the panic
of me sounding the alarm
indicating the vessel
under attack?
Well, it's like that energy...
'cause they don't have skin
and bone or muscle or a body.
And without that human body,
the soul is still there.
So now we're seeing
the soul react in a way
that it's just firing up
their energy.
[ Alarm ringing ] MAN: This
is not a drill. This is not a drill.
General quarters.
General quarters.
This is not a drill.
Let's talk about
these new suicides.
As far as the Navy
and the U.S.S. Hornet,
when a crewman is out at sea
and they commit suicide,
there's no documentation of it
except for in a yearbook?
We do have something.
It's called a cruise book.
It's essentially a yearbook
that, you know, every time
you go on a cruise,
which is the Navy's term
for going off to sea...
About three months...
You know, they'll keep a record
like a yearbook.
And then they will indicate
on the back
if there were deaths
that occurred,
They'll say,
"These crewmen perished."
We actually did research.
And we did discover
a new suicide
that took place in World War II.
How did you discover that?
We get a lot of visitors,
especially a lot
of World War II veterans.
And a gentleman came
and kind of said,
"Well, this was where, you know,
I remember my bunkmate."
So, he served
on the U.S.S. Hornet.
Correct. So we get stories
from a lot of the guys.
It's really great
'cause it's an oral history
that you can't really replace,
so we found that.
And then, through research,
we were able to confirm it.
Did he tell you that his
bunkmate committed suicide?
He did, yes. That's amazing.
ZAK: We've been talking to
employees of the U.S.S. Hornet
about the intense
paranormal activity
that they have been
exposed to on the ship.
Gary Harbaugh tells us about
another more recent suicide
of a crew member that he had
a personal relationship with
that has come to light
since our investigation.
Did you know one of
the past crew members
that took his life there?
I very, very briefly knew
the gentleman.
All right. [ Sniffles ]
Did you see him hanging?
Yes.
So, you met him
only a few times before?
Yes.
Matter of fact, the day before
was the first time I met him.
Gary, do you know why he would
commit suicide on the ship?
No, I can't... That's something
I couldn't even get into.
Yeah.
It's sad that anybody
would take their life.
There's always a reason...
Always a reason.
And whether the reason
be good or bad, it's theirs.
They're the only ones
that can answer that.
Gary, do you believe
that you are interacting
with this man
that took his life?
I do.
And what methods are you using
to communicate with him?
Between using a flashlight,
a K-II meter, talking.
I'm gonna show you, right now,
a video clip that you gave us
of you doing direct
communication response
with a flashlight.
WOMAN: And it was when she...
HARBAUGH: Why did that light
just go off?
MAN: What light?
That one right there.
The flashlight.
The flashlight.
That was a good job, man.
You turned the light on.
Thank you. I do appreciate it.
At least we can see in here now.
Can you turn it back off
so we can replace the battery?
Good man.
Thank you.
Can you turn that light back on
so they can see
the meters better?
Would you do that for me?
Thank you.
He's here. Yep.
How have you been, my man?
I haven't talked to you
in a long time.
It's been a while.
Have you been okay?
Shut it off if you've been okay.
Shut it down if you've been
all right, man.
You're not doing too good?
Huh? You're getting brighter.
Did you see it get brighter?
Yep.
Dim it down, man.
You're wasting... there you go.
Dim it down.
Go ahead and turn it off now.
They've got enough
for their cameras.
They don't need it on anymore.
It continued considerably more.
That evening, we were able
to find out a lot of information
by doing that.
And I really appreciated it
because it helps me
in different areas of the ship
because I know he's there.
ZAK: What's sad to me,
number one,
is my biggest heroes are anybody
that sacrifices their life
to serve our country.
If their spirits are still
on that ship,
and they are reacting to
an alarm to go to battle,
they are interacting with you
and other people on the ship,
do you think that they're
still stuck in thinking
that they're out at sea?
And when they hear
that battle alarm
that you guys ring,
there's more energy?
Do you think
that they are truly free
from the suicide that
they gave themselves
to escape the entrapment
of being out at sea?
No.
I firmly believe
they're stuck there
because of the violent death
that they chose to take.
I think that's why
they're stuck there.
That's my personal feeling.
However, I got to add this,
as well.
Even though they did
take their own lives,
in those days,
there was no such thing
as post-traumatic
stress syndrome.
The terms were not there.
And nobody knew how to deal
with any of this.
Nobody would recognize
if somebody had a problem going
and to do something about it.
There was no treatment. Yeah.
It would just grow
so far out of proportion
that that was their way out.
Didn't mean they were cowards,
because they weren't.
Right.
I firmly believe, and no one
will ever change my mind,
there's nothing on that ship
that is not a hero.
Every one of them are.
I don't care
what their reason for death.
I don't care what they did
on that ship.
They still served.
And as far as I'm concerned,
I firmly believe
they're all heroes.
They are all heroes. Yeah.
And you're helping them.
I hope. I hope.
I enjoy it there.
I enjoy the time
I do spend with them.
I have a lot of fun. Is that
why you go there, Gary?
Yeah. Yeah.
I served aboard
the U.S.S. Bennington.
And when I first went aboard
the Hornet,
which was
almost eight years ago,
if not eight years ago,
I walked up the gangway...
Hadn't been on a ship
since 1963.
I walked up the gangway,
got on board,
and all of a sudden was like
I left the ship yesterday.
The smells, everything,
it was all there.
It brought it all back.
Haven't left, still there.
Is it an emotional experience
working there?
Yeah. Yeah.
I get emotional
even when I talk about it.
Yeah.
Because it means
quite a bit to me.
Well, I think your emotions
are letting us know
and people that were just born
within 10, 20 years ago...
Your emotions are preserving
the integrity of their service.
I hope so.
And your emotions are preserving
their individual lives
and the sacrifices they made.
Yeah.
And I think
you don't truly feel that
until you see somebody
that served on a ship...
Yeah. ...that is
emotional about it.
And it lets us feel it
a little bit more
than just talking about it.
Well, you become part of it.
Exactly.
And it's not becoming part of it
because I walked on board
eight years ago.
I became part of it
the day I started serving
when I was in the service.
That's when I became
part of this whole thing.
And I'll never...
You don't give it up.
Right. You can't.
Right.
For every American,
I say thank you for being there.
And if they are trapped there,
you're doing things
to let them know
that you're there to help. Yeah.
You're not just there
to give tours.
You're not just there
to show people
where the engine room is...
Right.
...and where torpedos
were launched.
You're there
to help these spirits.
Yep. And I'm hoping I am.
Yeah. Well, you are.
That's the whole purpose.
You are.
And everybody watching this
right now is saying thank you
even though
you can't hear their voices.
Everybody that's watching this,
and especially people
that have served our country
are relating to you,
and everybody's
saying thank you.
All right?
Well, I appreciate it.
ZAK: We've seen that people
can become deeply affected
by their interactions
with the paranormal
during their investigations.
I became part of it
the day I started serving
when I was in the service.
That's when I became
part of this whole thing.
And I'll never...
You don't give it up.
ZAK: Right. Right. You can't.
ZAK: Even our own team members
feel the effects
long after
the investigations are over.
For nine months,
I was pretty much...
Just had the worst luck.
I kept seeing my death.
ZAK: But by digging deeper
into these events
and examining them closer
so we can understand them,
it may bring some closure.
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Man: Do you hear me?
It won't let me!
ZAK: The last several years,
we have explored many locations.
We have met
hundreds of people...
MAN:
The work you do is so valuable.
ZAK: ...many who have been
deeply affected by our investigations.
Bridget! It just said "Bridget"!
ZAK: Are these dark spirits
still plaguing these places...
MAN: No.
...and harming these people?
Did it just say "run"?
It said "run."
It said "run."
It's time to find out.
GHOST ADVENTURES - AFTERSHOCKS - SEASON 1
EP 3 - Salem Witch House
Salem, Massachusetts,
is a city that is steeped
in magical energy
stemming from warlocks
like our friend Christian Day.
In 2011, we traveled there
to investigate the Witch House
and Lyceum restaurant,
which yielded some of
the most profound evidence
that we've ever received.
Bridget! Bridget!
It just said "Bridget"!
ZAK: It was here
where I met Christian Day,
a warlock
who is deeply connected
with spirits and the afterlife
through ritual magic.
We call him back
to learn new insights
about these connections
since our investigation.
Hello. Good to see you again.
DAY: Good to see you.
How are you? Very good.
So, Christian, why do people
fear ritual magic?
Well, because it works.
Magic gives us the power to
take control of our own lives.
And so it attracts
both people who are able
to take that control
and sometimes people
who probably shouldn't.
You know, the idea of magic
is that we're able to exert
an energy out into the world
that changes
the world around us.
Mm-hmm.
And that's very powerful,
but it is also very threatening.
Now, when we were in Salem,
we were investigating
the Salem witch trials
and in particular
Bridget Bishop, I believe,
was the first one executed.
We started this ritual with you.
And I didn't think
we really truly knew
what we were
getting ourselves into.
Let's first start by watching
the first part of the ritual.
DAY: Death is but a doorway
through which we all pass.
The yew wand is
the wand of the dead.
[ Sighs ]
Open the gate, open the way,
bring us the spirits tonight.
And with three drops
of my blood...
[ Sighs ]
...an ancient blood sacrifice
was our own.
We did not sacrifice children.
And now each of you
will face your mortality
in your own term,
for each of you here tonight
is going to die some day.
For those spirits
that you seek, you...
look into the eyes
of your own mortality.
Now, Christian, we agreed
to participate in the ritual.
After that ritual,
I would probably say
that we may have gotten
a little bit deeper in tune
with the spirit world.
DAY: May the spirits see you
as one of their own,
a creature of the other world.
Did you put a spell on us
that night?
Absolutely.
I really wanted to
bring each of you
into communion with the spirits
in a way
that you would understand
what it was
you are dealing with.
It's one thing
to experiment with equipment,
but you have now crossed
into a place
where you're
directly interacting.
And it's very powerful.
And when I was on your show,
and I went over to Aaron,
and I said, "You know,
you're kind of the jokester."
I said, "But in reality,
you have the most power
"to actually command the spirits
and actually take charge
and be the protector
of these other people."
Don't give him an ego.
AARON: [ Chuckles ]
You can look at this with jest,
but you, too, shall be
what you see before you
as you face your own mortality.
Are you friends
with Bloody Mary?
Bloody Mary has been
a great friend of mine
for about 10 years.
He thinks Bloody Mary
put a spell on him.
To get laid?
No.
Okay, 'cause that's her thing.
He needs that, too.
[ Laughs ]
She's good at that.
Yeah, you may... Okay.
AARON: What?
But when we investigated
her house,
Aaron thinks that Bloody Mary
did some kind of a spell
in her ritual
before his investigation
that has messed with him
for months.
Another person who aided
in our investigations
is voodoo queen Bloody Mary.
Take care of my friends here,
my spirits.
ZAK:
We investigated her home in 2013
and Aaron hasn't
been the same since.
Now, we just interviewed
your friend Christian Day.
Mm-hmm.
And he does ritual magic.
You do voodoo.
And this is why I like to
follow up with you on this show
is now we get to know deeper
about these rituals that you do.
And, you know, it helps us.
It gives Aaron closure, too.
What everybody needs to
understand is
these rituals that we're doing
on camera on our show...
MARY: Are real.
...they're not produced.
They're not just
for entertainment value.
You're opening up these portals
to the spirit world,
and anything can happen to us,
and it does.
Before we get into your house,
which was one of the craziest...
Excuse my French...
[bleep] experiences...
[ Chuckles ] Can you say that?
...for not me
but for Aaron and Nick.
Aaron claims
that something from the home
has affected him
in months after.
AARON: After we left your house
and the lockdown,
I was scared for a long while.
For nine months,
I was pretty much...
Just had the worst luck.
I got very, very depressed
to the point
where I was just numb.
I couldn't get out of
this dark sludge, I call it.
I kept seeing my death.
I kept seeing, like,
me driving down the street
with my buddy Bacon in the car
and a car coming,
and we basically just crash.
[ Crash ]
So, it kind of spooked me
to the point where I just
kind of, like, stopped driving,
didn't really leave my house.
I was in such a funk
that it took me
about nine months
of pretty hard-core depression.
So, what I did is I pretty much
just stayed in my shell
and let time just go by.
Do you do any cleansings?
I don't ever do cleansing.
But this time,
about seven months into it,
I called upon
a really close friend of mine.
She's a real Wicca,
real good with auras.
And she came in and kind of
just took that black sludge off.
After the nine months,
I started feeling better.
Just today, I watched
the episode at my house.
And all of a sudden,
in that episode,
when the lights
started flickering
and the books fell off
the shelf,
all my lights in my house in the
kitchen just started going...
[Imitates buzzing]
just flickering down.
I was like, "Whoa!"
And it was pretty crazy.
So, I definitely know
the power of the voodoo.
I definitely know
you can get yourself
in a lot of trouble.
I warned you about that.
ZAK: In 2013, we investigated
the residence
of voodoo queen Bloody Mary,
located
in New Orleans, Louisiana.
She gave us access
to the spirit world that night
to help us interact
with the unknown.
I opened the gates.
And we asked for that.
When we participate in a ritual,
we ask for that
and we understand
the consequences.
But, I mean, I just called
my regular house spirits...
Spirits of the South,
spirits of the North.
I even call some of the spirits
that I constantly interact on.
I was saying my stuff,
and Nick, in the background,
interjects very loudly,
"And the malevolent ones, too?"
And he is the one
that got the brunt of it.
I even told him that after.
I said, "You're the one
that asked for it."
He said, "You're right."
NICK: Oh [bleep]
AARON: What?
Look at me.
Right when I walked
in the living room,
I felt a presence.
Bloody Mary is
the most magical person
I've ever met.
And her power is to the spirits.
ZAK:
When we investigated her home,
things happened
with Aaron and Nick
that is some of
our most powerful evidence.
Billy, show that whole clip.
Spirits of the south,
the spirits of fire...
When Bloody Mary
opens the circle to the spirits,
it is Nick and Aaron's job
to document evidence
of whoever greets them,
good or evil.
...Angels, we call you
to come and dance with us,
all the spirits,
all the ancestors.
And angels that are there.
[ Bell jingling ]
Open the way.
[ Rattling ]
The ancestors in your family
who have come before
on your father's side
and your mother's side
and those not yet born.
We have Madam Aloray.
We have Julie.
And we have many that
we may not know their names.
They have been here before
and followed us home.
We ask you to come again.
DAY: Mary specifically connected
Aaron with the ancestors.
Is that dangerous?
All spiritual work
is dangerous.
I know.
What she did with Aaron was not
all that dissimilar
from what I did. Right.
It was a connection
to the spirit world.
Some of the evidence that we
collected at your house was...
There was a lot... powerful.
Way more than you actually got
to put on the show.
Yes.
There was stuff that happened
like as soon
as they walked in the door.
Weird things going on
that they said never went on.
It was powerful, Bloody Mary.
I mean, we were trying
to debunk things, as we do...
Mm-hmm... but we couldn't.
We tried to debunk those books
falling off the shelf,
but we couldn't.
We had another camera angle
on Nick
to show that he did not
bump that when he came back.
Right.
He was away from it,
standing still.
Right.
And that's when he moved back
and three books...
Three... flew at him.
But watching it later on,
a few days later,
I was like, "Holy cow!"
I want to replay that
to refresh all of our minds.
ZAK: Anybody in there?
AARON: Are there any
negative energies in here?
Oh [bleep]
What? What?
What? [Bleep]
Holy [bleep]
Bro, the lights
just turned on and off.
Everything is coming
all over the place.
Something growled at me
in there.
I'm not kidding, Aaron. Get up.
ZAK: As Nick turns this corner,
he hears
a very loud hissing sound
and feels a very negative
presence push towards him,
causing him to retreat.
Oh [bleep]
AARON: What?
ZAK: Nick settles right here,
and he's standing
absolutely still
when this negative energy
rushes at him again.
AARON: What? What? [Bleep]
ZAK: At this exact moment,
these books
begin to fly off the shelves,
and Aaron also notices
an unexplained light appear
right where all of
this poltergeist activity
is occurring.
[Bleep] Holy [bleep]
[Bleep] Holy [bleep]
Stop. I went in there.
Wait. Listen. It's moving.
Nick now hears a dish moving
in the kitchen.
Stop. Something...
I went in there.
Wait. Listen. It's moving.
...moving.
...moving.
Was that in your kitchen?
No. No?
Tell us after this.
At first, we try to debunk
the books
falling off the shelves
as possibly
Nick bumping into them,
but thankfully this X camera
caught a very important angle.
During the melee
of Nick retreating
from the hissing sound,
you can see him stop right here
in front of the bookcase...
No books.
...and at this time,
no books fly off the shelves...
Both hands on his camera.
...ruling out that
Nick bumped into the bookcase.
His right hand's strapped
into his camera.
And when the books fell is
what prompted him to move back.
Right.
That is some of our most
shocking evidence to date.
I got to talk about the dishes.
The way my house is set up,
it's a very long,
kind of big house.
My kitchen is way the hell
in the back.
Yeah.
It's nowhere near
the front temple room.
And being that there were
film crews there for two days,
there were no dishes
in the sink.
[ Laughs ] So,
what do you think that was?
I'm going to show you.
MARY: I am entering my temple,
my private voodoo temple.
When our friends were here,
they thought they heard dishes
in the sink.
The kitchen is so far away.
The books were falling
off the shelves.
What they did not know,
as they entered,
were my spirit pots
that house the spirits.
And if the spirits are entering
or, perhaps,
in this case, agitated,
you might hear noise,
for they're made...
[ Clinking ]
Oh, wow.
MARY: ...out of ceramic...
Seemingly hollow, empty jars.
And that is
what they sound like.
ZAK: Sounds just like it.
Makes a lot of sense.
So, we couldn't see those.
MARY: No, you didn't know
they were there.
Tucked in the back.
There. See there?
[ Jar clinks ]
Wow. That sounds like it.
Yeah,
'cause you couldn't hear...
It wasn't dishes.
It was... You know?
Yeah, you couldn't hear...
That makes so much sense now.
This is what this is all about,
trying to help us...
Piece it together more.
Yeah, piece it together.
MARY: Mystery of
the kitchen noises revealed.
[ Jar clinks ]
[ Jar clinks ]
[ Jar clinks ]
What a spirit pot?
Govi jars...
In voodoo,
or in a lot of traditions,
but mainly in voodoo,
you would get a...
They're really empty jars
but not empty.
You know, if you looked at them,
you wouldn't see anything,
per se,
but they go through
the ritual initiation with you.
If I'm doing a consultation,
a healing, a cleansing,
whatever I'm doing,
as I'm sitting
in my temple room,
I feed the pots...
A little rum,
a little something...
And it gives it temporary
housing for the loas,
the angels, the ancestors...
Whoever it is that's coming in
to help assist with the reading.
So, it's kind of like
a spirit jar.
And I had not specifically
called them,
but many of
those spirits, obviously,
came here to the pots
and were r-rattling
and kind of warning you,
"Eh, out you go, guys.
Time to go," or whatever it was.
Wait. Listen. It's moving.
[ Jar clinks ]
ZAK: We're talking
to warlock Christian Day
about how ritual magic
can affect a person
and, in turn, an investigation,
like it did to ours
when we were in Salem,
Massachusetts, in 2011.
There's different stages
of interacting with the dead.
And I believe that we graduated
from a more amateur level.
What you all went through
that night
was a form of initiation.
Into witchcraft or paganism?
Not into witchcraft or paganism,
but into spirit.
All initiation is
an initiation of the spirit,
whether it's voodoo, witchcraft,
Catholicism,
Masonic tradition...
All of those traditions
that confirm or initiate you
into this next level
of spiritual awareness,
there is a thread that goes
through all of them.
And so, it's not about
becoming a witch.
It's about becoming aware.
It's opening up
your sixth sense...
Absolutely.
...to a deeper understanding
and a deeper realm
of this other world.
That's what we're telling you is
that we felt the after effects
of this spell
that you put on us.
But it wasn't
just us feeling things.
It was us receiving
some very, very compelling,
concrete evidence
of Bridget Bishop.
I would like to play
the evidence that we got
that was extremely shocking.
She gave us her first
and last name on cue.
We are in the midst of highly
effective pagan ritual
inside the Witch House.
With the aid of Christian Day,
a real-life warlock,
we've been able to
capture spirit voices
through our highly sensitive
Spirit Box.
We believe these voices
belong to the victims
of the infamous
Salem witch trials.
What is your name?
[ Oscillating static ]
Bridget! Bridget!
It just said "Bridget"!
And I heard that.
Did you hear that?
NICK: Yeah.
Bridget, what is your last name?
[ Oscillating static ]
Bishop! Bishop!
Oh, my God!
I'd like you to tell me
exactly what you did
because I understand that you're
gonna let us know something.
Well, witches are a little bit
mischievous at times.
And I really wanted to give
the best I could give, you know?
When you asked me
to be on the show,
I said,
"Well, I have to bring it."
And when you're looking for
the victims of the trials,
the last place
they want to hang out
is the home
of one of the judges.
So, I'm thinking,
"Well, how is this gonna work?
How am I going to really get
these spirits to show up?"
So I planned
a necromantic ritual
that would call up the spirits.
The Lyceum is extremely haunted.
Every TV show that goes there
has equipment failures,
they have
all kinds of things happen.
Why didn't we have
much evidence there?
Well, because I gamed
the system.
I told, you know, the people
at "Ghost Adventures",
"I really want to do
the Witch House,
but it's not very haunted,
but it will be when I'm done."
Your team is already
in the house.
Elizabeth's standing
out in the yard
waiting with Kelly and I.
So I grabbed Kelly's hand,
and I pointed it
in the direction of the Lyceum,
which is only down the street.
And I said,
"Bridget Bishop, if you have
ever enjoyed working with me,
if you've ever enjoyed
"the spiritual relationship
we've had,
"give them no audience,
give them no show,
give them nothing."
So you took the spirits
from the Lyceum from us.
[ Laughs ] Well, I didn't...
That's why we didn't get
good evidence at the Lyceum.
Well, sort of, yeah.
Listen to me.
Did you bring Bridget Bishop
to the Witch House?
I did not ask Bridget
to come to the Witch House.
I merely asked her
to leave the Lyceum.
But now, in retrospect,
where else was she gonna go?
And as I saw on TV,
which of course I didn't know
until I saw it,
all of your equipment
began to go crazy
when we walked in the room.
Yeah, it did, actually.
Witches are magnets of energy.
When we walk into a room,
it's going to bring out
what's there.
Yeah, the device,
we had to power off
because it was going to crazy.
Oh, absolutely.
And it didn't do anything
until you showed up with Kelly.
[ PX device speaking
indistinctly ]
The PX device that I'd had
in my pocket earlier,
which hadn't made
a single noise,
started going crazy
as soon as the warlock and witch
entered the house.
I didn't want it
to interfere with their ritual,
so I turned it off.
PX DEVICE: Off.
[ Rattling ]
Lord of the dead
who guides the spirits
to the realms beyond,
give the people here tonight
vision
of what lies within these walls,
for death is but a doorway
through which we all pass.
I'm kind of having fun with it,
and some people
watching the show
didn't understand why
we were laughing and smiling.
It's because when Bridget Bishop
came out of that box...
Bridget! Bridget!
It just said "Bridget"!
DAY: ...all I could think of
was what I had just done
outside in the yard.
ZAK: So that's
what your expression was.
I wanted the Witch House
to steal the show.
Do you believe that
that was Bridget Bishop?
Absolutely.
You believe that was
her spirit that came through?
Absolutely.
That's why it was so great.
We didn't just prove
the existence of spirits
on that episode.
We proved the existence
of magic.
We made that happen.
We took a place
that wasn't haunted.
We made it haunted.
We took a place that
no victim of the witch trials
would hang out at,
and she came to visit.
ZAK: We've seen
compelling interactions
between us and the spirit world
amplified with the help
from warlock Christian Day...
...and voodoo queen Bloody Mary.
NICK: Oh [bleep]
ZAK: It comes to our attention
that the investigators
aboard the U.S.S. Hornet
have been having even more
personal interactions
with the spirits on the ship
since our investigation.
The U.S.S. Hornet saw action
in over 100 battles.
And it was also the last stop
for over 300 men.
[ Door slams ]
We know that war
can leave lasting effects
on the people
who are engaged in it.
And as we found out
during our investigation
at the U.S.S. Hornet,
[ Siren wailing ]
the effects of war last long
after flesh and bone are gone.
What's left behind is
a massive paranormal energy.
[Bleep] this, bro.
Twin sisters
Kris and Heidi Schave
have had intense experiences
at the U.S.S. Hornet
with these trapped souls
since our last visit there.
We sit down with Kris
to learn about a new tragedy
recently discovered
on board the ship.
So, how are you doing?
I'm good.
Are you still working there?
I am.
How long has it been?
God, Probably since...
I think I want to say 2007.
Were you involved in discovering
the new suicide
that happened
in the forecastle area?
'Cause I find that
really interesting
that you just discovered
about this.
I was involved in the sense
where I'm the one that actually
had seen the entity up there.
You saw the entity?
I did. Yes. In the forecastle?
Do you believe
that this is the entity
that was recently discovered,
the former crewman?
I think so.
What happened?
About a year ago,
I was down in the forecastle.
And I glanced up
at the crew berthing area,
which is on top.
And I saw a young gentleman...
I want to say 19, 20...
In the peacoat...
Really?
...and a hat walking around.
And I kind of thought,
"Who is this?
Like, is someone working
up there?"
But you could tell.
I mean, he just looked
very official Navy,
and it wasn't somebody working,
a docent.
And he looked behind him
and then just disappeared.
It would almost be better
to try and tell them
that the battle is over,
that there's no more war,
you know?
That, "You can move on
if you'd like."
Is that a goal, do you believe?
It is, and it should be.
I have to say, they like you
'cause we do
mention you sometimes
and we definitely get action.
So, I don't know
what that means.
[ Laughs ]
You get action
when you mention me?
[ Laughs ]
Well, yeah, I mean the...
The activity. Yes.
Now, when the activity happens,
what kind of activity
reacts to my name?
This was
in the outermost quarters.
We're sitting there,
and we're just kind of...
I said,
"Do you remember so-and-so?
Do you know who I am?"
So, yeah, we also will say,
"Turn the flashlight off
if you like Zak."
Woman: Oh!
Can you turn the light back on?
Can you turn the light back on?
Can you turn the light back on?
It's sad to know
that so many sailors,
so many servicemen in that time
were just trapped out at sea
dealing with isolation.
You can't get off this ship.
And it's sad that so many people
that serve our country
commit suicide,
and they're taking this
sacrifice with their own life
by serving our country.
And it's sad that an enemy's
not even killing them.
It's the enemy inside of them.
ZAK: Gary Harbaugh is
an educational volunteer
at the U.S.S. Hornet
and a Navy veteran.
His connection
to the spirits on the ship
was almost instantaneous.
Now, you served in the Navy?
Yes, I'm retired Navy.
Oh. Thank you for serving our country,
sir. Thank you. I appreciate that.
When you began working
at the U.S.S. Hornet,
did you believe in ghosts
or were you as active
in ghost-hunting
and investigating
the paranormal as you are now?
I believed in it because
I have ever since I was a child.
And I had an experience
when I first started working
on the Hornet.
Matter of fact,
it was within the first night
or second night
that I slept onboard,
which was just below
the afterbrow
where you come on board.
One deck below that is
where the cabin is at.
What happened?
I was off to sleep,
and, all of a sudden,
I was awakened by the sound
of the boatswain's pipe.
[ Whistle blows ]
What is that?
If you were going to
general quarters
or anything else aboard a ship,
the boatswain would sound
the pipe off
and then announce
directly after that
either, "General quarters,
general quarters.
Well, that's what I was hearing
was the boatswain's pipe.
[ Whistle blows ]
And, I mean, it sounded like
it was right outside my hatch.
So I get out of the bunk
and went over, opened the hatch,
and the passageway out front
was lit and nothing there.
So I went back to bed.
About a half an hour later,
same thing again.
[ Whistle blows ]
You heard it again? Again.
And I bailed out of the bunk,
straight to the door,
opened it... Nothing there.
Was it loud?
Loud.
[ Whistle blows ]
And I'm starting to think,
"Well, maybe it's coming off the
ships
that are berthed next door,"
or what have you.
Right, right.
But then, it dawned on me...
The ships
that are berthed next door
are no longer Navy vessels.
They wouldn't have anything
on board.
Mm-hmm.
And that's when I kind of
sat back with it.
And the third time it happened,
I was awake
the rest of the night.
I didn't go back to sleep.
These men, in that time, took
their own lives on this ship
because either they were
just in extreme isolation,
they felt trapped,
they couldn't escape the ship,
or possibly
they were being tormented
by some other crew members.
Yeah.
How many of these spirits
that you believe are on the ship
died from suicide?
When you take a ship,
and you put it to sea,
especially in wartime,
and it doesn't see dock
for over a year,
these guys are on board
for that length of time.
And you're talking servicemen
that are
18, 19, 20, 21 years old.
They're still kids.
And, all of a sudden now,
they're stuck on this ship
for a long period of time.
Something's gonna happen.
You see, I'm a big believer
in our bodies obviously operate
through different
electric impulses.
And when you trigger an event
for a spirit to react
or interact,
I believe that we are able
to visually see
a spirit's energy go into
a very active mode.
When that energy
gets inside of us,
I believe
that it can also effect
our own electrical systems...
Oh, I agree.
...and the beating
of our own hearts.
I agree. I had just gone to bed.
And it was about
2:00 in the morning.
All the lights were out.
And when the lights go out
aboard the aircraft carrier,
the lights go out.
All of a sudden, out of nowhere,
it went sub-zero
in my sleeping bag instantly.
And at the same time,
my heart was just beating like
it was gonna come out of me.
And my first thought was,
"My God, I'm having
a heart attack."
[ Heart beating rapidly ]
And all of a sudden, it was gone
as fast as it started...
The cold, the heartbeat,
everything.
Did you think this was medical?
I didn't know.
I didn't know at that point.
But it took about 30 seconds,
and I sure got an indication
'cause it happened again,
only more intense.
I bailed out of the bunk,
flipped the lights on.
My statement was,
"The ship's yours."
I was dressed.
I threw everything
in my locker, locked it,
and I was off the ship
in less than 10 minutes.
Were you hearing
or seeing anything?
No, but what I firmly believe
to this day is
whatever happened
and whatever it was
[ Heart beating rapidly ]
literally laid down
on top of me, and I had it.
Have you had any more
of those episodes?
No, and I'll tell you why.
Because every time I go
into my cabin now,
the first thing I do is request
permission to come on board,
and I use the word "sir."
Since that time,
I've never had an episode since.
ZAK:
Kris' twin sister, Heidi Schave,
is the educational director
at the U.S.S. Hornet.
She is here to discuss activity
that's happened on the ship
since we've last seen her.
Hello. HEIDI: Hi.
How you been?
Good. How have you been?
Good.
When did we come there?
How long ago was that?
2011?
That was the first time
that we ever went back in time
to serve for the Navy to
look for ghosts. That's right.
So, how's it been since we left?
You know,
it's been very exciting.
We've actually had
a lot more activity happening.
I noticed when you investigated
in 2011,
you used an alarm.
[ Siren wailing ]
We're under attack.
We're under attack.
Get to your stations
immediately.
Get to your stations.
And I know
that kind of stirred stuff.
So what I did was
I actually went
and found
that we could actually do
our original
general-quarters alarm,
which would be
the World War II battle siren.
"General quarters,
general quarters."
[ Alarm ringing ]
MAN: This is not a drill.
General quarters.
General quarters.
All hands,
man your battle stations.
We activated that up
so we could actually, you know,
when we pull that at night,
that actually works wonders.
Did our investigation,
when we did that, inspire this?
It did. It did.
I borrowed your methodology.
Oh, very cool.
Now, do you think
that sounding the alarm
is keeping these spirits there
and keeping them thinking
that they're in battle?
Yes.
[ Alarm ringing ]
So, if they did hear that alarm,
and we were back in the 1940s,
'50s on that ship
during this alarm,
you could basically feel and see
the intensity on these crewmen.
After we sounded the alarm,
which would simulate an attack
when they were out at sea,
we did capture something,
an anomaly that was
really interesting.
It was, like, spinning.
And we've never seen
anything like it.
And then it slowly just moves
down the hallway.
Take a look at it.
[ Siren wailing ]
ZAK: We're under attack.
Get to your stations.
Seven minutes
after we sounded the siren
and took off down the corridor,
our static night-vision camera
in the Broadway area
captured
this unexplained energy form
as it manifested
in the center of the doorway
and then shot past the camera.
And what makes this
really unique
is that you can see
this anomaly hover still
about 20 feet from the camera
as it begins to energize itself.
Then it twists like a tornado
with light resonating
from the center
as it shoots toward the camera.
We have never captured or seen
anything like this before.
Was this energy form a spirit
trying to manifest itself
during the panic
of me sounding the alarm
indicating the vessel
under attack?
Well, it's like that energy...
'cause they don't have skin
and bone or muscle or a body.
And without that human body,
the soul is still there.
So now we're seeing
the soul react in a way
that it's just firing up
their energy.
[ Alarm ringing ] MAN: This
is not a drill. This is not a drill.
General quarters.
General quarters.
This is not a drill.
Let's talk about
these new suicides.
As far as the Navy
and the U.S.S. Hornet,
when a crewman is out at sea
and they commit suicide,
there's no documentation of it
except for in a yearbook?
We do have something.
It's called a cruise book.
It's essentially a yearbook
that, you know, every time
you go on a cruise,
which is the Navy's term
for going off to sea...
About three months...
You know, they'll keep a record
like a yearbook.
And then they will indicate
on the back
if there were deaths
that occurred,
They'll say,
"These crewmen perished."
We actually did research.
And we did discover
a new suicide
that took place in World War II.
How did you discover that?
We get a lot of visitors,
especially a lot
of World War II veterans.
And a gentleman came
and kind of said,
"Well, this was where, you know,
I remember my bunkmate."
So, he served
on the U.S.S. Hornet.
Correct. So we get stories
from a lot of the guys.
It's really great
'cause it's an oral history
that you can't really replace,
so we found that.
And then, through research,
we were able to confirm it.
Did he tell you that his
bunkmate committed suicide?
He did, yes. That's amazing.
ZAK: We've been talking to
employees of the U.S.S. Hornet
about the intense
paranormal activity
that they have been
exposed to on the ship.
Gary Harbaugh tells us about
another more recent suicide
of a crew member that he had
a personal relationship with
that has come to light
since our investigation.
Did you know one of
the past crew members
that took his life there?
I very, very briefly knew
the gentleman.
All right. [ Sniffles ]
Did you see him hanging?
Yes.
So, you met him
only a few times before?
Yes.
Matter of fact, the day before
was the first time I met him.
Gary, do you know why he would
commit suicide on the ship?
No, I can't... That's something
I couldn't even get into.
Yeah.
It's sad that anybody
would take their life.
There's always a reason...
Always a reason.
And whether the reason
be good or bad, it's theirs.
They're the only ones
that can answer that.
Gary, do you believe
that you are interacting
with this man
that took his life?
I do.
And what methods are you using
to communicate with him?
Between using a flashlight,
a K-II meter, talking.
I'm gonna show you, right now,
a video clip that you gave us
of you doing direct
communication response
with a flashlight.
WOMAN: And it was when she...
HARBAUGH: Why did that light
just go off?
MAN: What light?
That one right there.
The flashlight.
The flashlight.
That was a good job, man.
You turned the light on.
Thank you. I do appreciate it.
At least we can see in here now.
Can you turn it back off
so we can replace the battery?
Good man.
Thank you.
Can you turn that light back on
so they can see
the meters better?
Would you do that for me?
Thank you.
He's here. Yep.
How have you been, my man?
I haven't talked to you
in a long time.
It's been a while.
Have you been okay?
Shut it off if you've been okay.
Shut it down if you've been
all right, man.
You're not doing too good?
Huh? You're getting brighter.
Did you see it get brighter?
Yep.
Dim it down, man.
You're wasting... there you go.
Dim it down.
Go ahead and turn it off now.
They've got enough
for their cameras.
They don't need it on anymore.
It continued considerably more.
That evening, we were able
to find out a lot of information
by doing that.
And I really appreciated it
because it helps me
in different areas of the ship
because I know he's there.
ZAK: What's sad to me,
number one,
is my biggest heroes are anybody
that sacrifices their life
to serve our country.
If their spirits are still
on that ship,
and they are reacting to
an alarm to go to battle,
they are interacting with you
and other people on the ship,
do you think that they're
still stuck in thinking
that they're out at sea?
And when they hear
that battle alarm
that you guys ring,
there's more energy?
Do you think
that they are truly free
from the suicide that
they gave themselves
to escape the entrapment
of being out at sea?
No.
I firmly believe
they're stuck there
because of the violent death
that they chose to take.
I think that's why
they're stuck there.
That's my personal feeling.
However, I got to add this,
as well.
Even though they did
take their own lives,
in those days,
there was no such thing
as post-traumatic
stress syndrome.
The terms were not there.
And nobody knew how to deal
with any of this.
Nobody would recognize
if somebody had a problem going
and to do something about it.
There was no treatment. Yeah.
It would just grow
so far out of proportion
that that was their way out.
Didn't mean they were cowards,
because they weren't.
Right.
I firmly believe, and no one
will ever change my mind,
there's nothing on that ship
that is not a hero.
Every one of them are.
I don't care
what their reason for death.
I don't care what they did
on that ship.
They still served.
And as far as I'm concerned,
I firmly believe
they're all heroes.
They are all heroes. Yeah.
And you're helping them.
I hope. I hope.
I enjoy it there.
I enjoy the time
I do spend with them.
I have a lot of fun. Is that
why you go there, Gary?
Yeah. Yeah.
I served aboard
the U.S.S. Bennington.
And when I first went aboard
the Hornet,
which was
almost eight years ago,
if not eight years ago,
I walked up the gangway...
Hadn't been on a ship
since 1963.
I walked up the gangway,
got on board,
and all of a sudden was like
I left the ship yesterday.
The smells, everything,
it was all there.
It brought it all back.
Haven't left, still there.
Is it an emotional experience
working there?
Yeah. Yeah.
I get emotional
even when I talk about it.
Yeah.
Because it means
quite a bit to me.
Well, I think your emotions
are letting us know
and people that were just born
within 10, 20 years ago...
Your emotions are preserving
the integrity of their service.
I hope so.
And your emotions are preserving
their individual lives
and the sacrifices they made.
Yeah.
And I think
you don't truly feel that
until you see somebody
that served on a ship...
Yeah. ...that is
emotional about it.
And it lets us feel it
a little bit more
than just talking about it.
Well, you become part of it.
Exactly.
And it's not becoming part of it
because I walked on board
eight years ago.
I became part of it
the day I started serving
when I was in the service.
That's when I became
part of this whole thing.
And I'll never...
You don't give it up.
Right. You can't.
Right.
For every American,
I say thank you for being there.
And if they are trapped there,
you're doing things
to let them know
that you're there to help. Yeah.
You're not just there
to give tours.
You're not just there
to show people
where the engine room is...
Right.
...and where torpedos
were launched.
You're there
to help these spirits.
Yep. And I'm hoping I am.
Yeah. Well, you are.
That's the whole purpose.
You are.
And everybody watching this
right now is saying thank you
even though
you can't hear their voices.
Everybody that's watching this,
and especially people
that have served our country
are relating to you,
and everybody's
saying thank you.
All right?
Well, I appreciate it.
ZAK: We've seen that people
can become deeply affected
by their interactions
with the paranormal
during their investigations.
I became part of it
the day I started serving
when I was in the service.
That's when I became
part of this whole thing.
And I'll never...
You don't give it up.
ZAK: Right. Right. You can't.
ZAK: Even our own team members
feel the effects
long after
the investigations are over.
For nine months,
I was pretty much...
Just had the worst luck.
I kept seeing my death.
ZAK: But by digging deeper
into these events
and examining them closer
so we can understand them,
it may bring some closure.
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