Ghost Adventures: Aftershocks (2014–…): Season 1, Episode 2 - Villisca Axe Murder House and Letchworth Village - full transcript

LAWSON: Help me!
MAN #1: Do you hear me?

It won't let me!

ZAK: The last several years,
we have explored many locations.

We have met
hundreds of people...

MAN #2: The work you do
is so valuable.

...many who have been deeply
affected by our investigations.

What's wrong?

I have to sit down.

Are these dark spirits
still plaguing these places...

Ah, no.

...and harming these people?



"The thing was like 7 feet tall,
legs bent backwards,

and piercing white eyes."

It's time to find out.

GHOST ADVENTURES - AFTERSHOCKS - SEASON 1
EP 2 - Villisca Axe Murder House and Letchworth Village

The Villisca Ax Murder House
is a location that has a history

that is bathed in bloodshed.

Eight people,
including six children,

were viciously murdered

while they were sleeping
at the home

back in 1912,

and the killer was never found.

And almost 100 years later,

we found that the house
was still alive

with that negative energy.



You want this ax back?

Who's up here?

I demand you to tell me
what your name is.

You want to keep killing?

Push this ax on my face.

Since our investigation,

this energy has been affecting

everyone it comes
into contact with,

especially two sisters and
former residents of the house...

Linda Cloud
and Patty Williamson.

How you doing?

I'm good.
It's nice to see you again.

Good to see you again.
Yeah, yeah.

How have you been? Okay.

Yeah?

So, to refresh
everybody's minds,

we interviewed you
and your sister

at The Villisca Ax Murder House.

Does this house scare you?

Mm-hmm.

This house talks to me
all the time.

[ Exhales sharply ]

ZAK: It's a very haunted home
because of what happened there.

I mean, there was eight people
murdered in that house...

Correct.

...six of them children.

When you started living
in The Villisca Ax Murder House,

you said to me that you started
hearing voices.

The first night we was there,
yes.

It was like little girls crying
or something.

[ Girl crying ]

But then things started taking
a darker route.

Mm-hmm.

You saw your father get stabbed
with a knife

by an unseen force.

Something making his hand go

the opposite
of what he was doing, yes.

Let's watch that again.

Our dad always liked to sharpen
his own knives.

He was honing the knife away
from him like so.

And then all of a sudden,
he went like this.

It looked like there was
a pressure on his hand

and just turned that hand
and stabbed him.

Do you think that a dark,
unseen force

was trying to take that knife
and almost kill your father?

Yeah. Absolutely.

That energy
doesn't want anybody here.

ZAK: Are you okay watching that?

No.

Yeah, I'm fine.

You know, we captured a voice

that seems to be coming
from the killer,

saying, "I killed six kids."

It was almost as if
that killer was there.

And what was really,
really fascinating to us

in this investigation

is that we had a full-blown
law-enforcement skeptic...

Mm-hmm.

...who we invited in
to our investigation.

We have nothing to hide.

We're very open to... Right.

Anybody can come and watch us
investigate.

And he asked.

And he said, "Hey, if I think
this is full of [bleep]

I'm gonna tell you."

We captured a voice with him...

For sure.

...with Roy Marshall that
he could not even explain.

We had him sit down with our
audio/visual tech, Billy Tolley,

and we had him examine
the exact file.

We had him listen to the voice
from the recorder.

And there was no doubt,

there was no denying

that that voice said,
"I killed six kids."

And I want to play that.

Do you have that, Billy?

I am making the assumption
that the spirit of the killer

is still residing
at The Villisca Ax Murder House

because during
our investigation there in 2010,

we turned Roy Marshall,
a staunch skeptic,

into a believer
with this compelling EVP.

Do you see us in your house?

Sure.

This rings almost every hour?

Well, that's... Man.

It's a sound that I did not hear
while I was in there.

Not only was Roy puzzled,

but when we heard
this unexplained voice,

we started deciphering
a disturbing message.

Yeah, I hear it on there now.
Yeah.

You hear it on here, too?
Uh-huh.

That's what we hear.

The "k" is prominent.

Right.

Doesn't it sound like a guy
that's out of breath?

Even our skeptic said,
"It sounds like..."

Someone swinging an ax.

This rings almost every hour?

And to even further validate
this theory,

we believe we came into contact

with the children
who were murdered in the house

when they responded
with their names when we asked.

Tell me what your name is.

[ Distorted noises ]

Tell me what your name is.

That was weird.

Lena is the name
of the 12-year-old girl

who was murdered here in 1912.

Are you a little kid
that lives here?

What's your name?

Do you think that the spirit
of the killer

was living in the house
while you were living there?

Something was there.

I can't imagine
what it would have been like

to live in that home...

knowing that that killer
is still there...

and what he must have done
to you and your sister.

Patty's sister, Linda, has had
deep emotional reactions

to living in the house, as well.

I was concerned
that you and your sister

were showing emotion and fear

that would have made you open up
to an attachment, okay?

Mm-hmm.

And you lived in that home.

I can't imagine what it would
have been like to live there,

and we were there
just for one night.

But I wanted you to come back.

I wanted to check in on
you and your sister

to see if you've been okay

because I always would think
about that.

I would always think
about the fear

that you would show
and the emotions.

Oh. [ Sighs ]

I just want those little girls
to tell me

what they want me to do.

Well, we did capture an EVP

that I thought could have
validated that this entity,

that this spirit knew
that you were there.

And let's play that EVP.

This is his house.

Whose house?

The guy that did the murder.

Do you think that was him...
You all right?

[ Exhales sharply ] No.

What's wrong?

I have to sit down.

I really have to sit down.

You all right?

Uh, no.

What's wrong?

I feel very, very weak.

Zak, Nick, Aaron. Villisca.

I want to see if I can give her
some kind of closure

by you speaking to me right now.

Do you recognize Linda?

All right,
we'll review this audio.

...if I can give her
some kind of closure

by you speaking to me right now.

What is that?

That's a voice.

"Where is she?" Mm-hmm.

"Where is she?"

That's what I hear...
"Where is she?"

What's wrong?

Nothing.

Is it sad to hear that?

Yeah.

And I want to...
When I went to sit down...

What did you feel, Linda?

I actually felt like...
I'm not kidding.

It was just like
all of a sudden,

I felt absolutely zapped,

like my energy was being
pulled up from my toes,

up through my head.

And I know that sounds silly.

No, it doesn't.
He was taking it.

But that's exactly...

And then that's why
I had to sit down.

I felt my legs going.

You know, it was just weird.

He's feeding off your fear.

Yeah, you know, and...

He's waiting for that moment
where he gets you.

Yeah. And he got you.

Yeah, he did.

And your sister. Yeah, he did.

And he took every bit
of your energy.

ZAK: We've seen that the memory
of a horrific situation

can follow people through life,

but we find out from Patty

that that's not the only thing
that can follow a person.

I don't know if I told you this
when we did the interview,

but before we came
to do this interview,

I was doing dishes
in my kitchen.

And I wasn't thinking
about anything.

My mind was totally clear.

And I was doing my dishes,

and all of a sudden,
this face...

I'm not... It literally zoomed
in to my face.

And it wasn't no image.

It was a face.

And he had the coldest dark eyes
I'd ever seen.

And it was like
he was staring at me.

He wouldn't quit staring.

And he had on this dirty,
dingy, old, brown hat.

And, I mean,
it literally scared me,

and I'm shaking my head,

trying to get it to go away,
you know?

I don't know
why I was seeing this face.

I don't know if it was the face
of the killer in that house

warning me not to come
to that house.

I don't know what it was.

I can't... I don't know.

I really can't explain it.

I just remember seeing it,
and it scared me.

You saw this face of this man
wearing a hat

two days before we called you
to the home.

Do you think he knew
that you were about to go there?

That's the only explanation
I can come up with

because I don't know...

Why would a face just
all of a sudden come into view?

I mean, it was like he was
actually right there in my face.

I believe that this evil spirit,
this entity,

who's possibly the killer,

is feeding off of the emotion
and the fear

that you and your sister exhibit
while visiting the home.

And he almost knows when
you're gonna be at the home,

just as he showed himself
to your sister

two days before you went there.

Yeah. Yeah.

Something that nobody knew...

No.

...during the filming
of our show...

No.

...is that five of your siblings
were also killed.

Yeah. Yeah.

ZAK: Some people
are drawn to locations

with negative residual energy.

Patty and Linda share

a disturbing past experience
with us

that forever links them
to The Villisca Ax Murder House.

Something that nobody knew...

No.

...during the filming
of our show...

No.

...is that five of your siblings
were also killed.

Yeah.

When you were a little girl,

a fire broke out in your house.

And was it four brothers and a
younger sister were all killed?

Babies, yeah.

Yeah.

Were you in that home
when the fire happened?

No.

The day it happened,
the four older children,

which would be my sister, me,
and my other sister and brother,

were in school.

I couldn't concentrate.

I kept looking out the window,
looking back toward home.

And then just a little bit
after that,

they came to pull us
out of school

to tell us what happened.

And I stood up
and started screaming at them.

Next thing I know,

we got pulled
out of our classrooms

and put on a school bus,

and we didn't know
what was going on

until we got
to where they took us.

And then they let us know
what was going on.

CLOUD: Two weeks before the fire
actually happened,

I woke up in the middle
of the night,

and I smelled smoke.

[ Exhales sharply ]

And I got up,
and I went to look and see.

And my dad woke up

and he wanted to know
what was wrong and I told him.

We walked around
the whole house.

We walked around
the perimeter of the house.

Nothing. Nothing.

I don't know how I know.

I just know.

I don't want to talk
about the fire anymore.

That was two years

before we moved
to the Villisca house.

I had just turned 11.

So, you had five
of your siblings all die

in a house fire.

They were... Yeah.

Two years later,

you unknowingly move in
to a home

where six young children
were brutally killed.

Correct.

And you didn't know it.

No.

Can you tell me about the time

when you moved in to
The Villisca Ax Murder House

and you think that you saw
one of your younger brothers?

No thinking about it, Zak.
I did.

I mean, I'll swear
to the day I die

I saw my dead brother,

waving for me to come to him.

At the time when we lived
in that house...

I don't know if you remember
how the house was laid out,

but that blacktop
that runs north and south...

That was a dirt road
at the time.

And off to the right
of that road

was an old deserted farm field.

Us kids were out playing,
and it was a sunny day.

We were out riding our bike.

All of a sudden,
something made me look that way

and I looked and I saw my dead
brother going like this to me.

At the Villisca House.

Yes.

Do you think that your...

The spirits of your brothers
and sister

that were killed in the fire

two years before you moved
in The Villisca Ax Murder House

followed you to the house?

I mean, at that time,
I didn't know what to...

All I know is, I saw my brother,
and I wanted to go to him.

Why didn't you go to him?

'Cause my older sister
wouldn't let me.

Did your older sister see him,
too?

No, she said
there was nothing there.

I wanted to go.

Was this your first
experience...

Yes, my very first experience.

...with a ghost?

With anything like that.
With anything like that.

Yes.

I just find that

very coincidental
and very unfortunate

that you would go through

the loss of five
of your brothers and sister

and then just happen
to move in to a home

where six children were killed.

Yeah.

Did you ever think about that?

No. Honestly, no.

I mean, I can honestly say no.

I never.

The layers
within Linda's story deepen,

as she begins to tell me
about occurrences she's had

after our original interview
at the house.

I think this killer's
very intelligent.

And I think it's best that you
just stay away from this home

at all costs

because I think
he's bound there.

But I think also at times

this spirit can hitch a ride

and travel with you,
even in you.

So, what happened
after our investigation?

Well, I don't know
how to say this to you,

but after we did the shoot,
we were in our living room,

working on our computers
and stuff,

and no heavy traffic was going
by to cause any commotion.

There was no children
in the house running around.

We were working,

and then all of a sudden,

my kitchen-cabinet door came
flying open.

And the second shelf
where all my bowls and stuff...

That stuff flew
out of the cabinet

and shattered
all over the floor.

We just kind of looked,
and we were like, "Wow."

And I went in to clean it up,
and it felt different in there.

It just felt different.

Somebody asked me,

did I think that we have had
that all our life,

since the Villisca house,
you know?

Yeah, I do.

I think that could be
a very big connection.

[ Thunder rumbling ]

ZAK: We've concluded since
our investigation in 2010

that The Villisca
Ax Murder House

is very active
with a negative energy.

Since then, other investigators
have entered the home

with doubts of its power,

like Katie Savick,

but how they leave the house
is another story.

Nice to meet you.

You too.

So, you were a skeptic?

Yeah, I was very skeptic.

And then you went
to The Ax Murder House.

Yeah.

Did something happen? Yeah.

There's a lot that happened
in that house

that obviously, you know,
I can't explain.

Did your visit to the house
change your life?

Yeah, pretty much.

I mean...

What did you feel
when you were up there?

It bothers you.

Yeah. I don't like the feeling
in that house.

You're not alone, and...

I feel like it, though,

when I try to explain this
to people,

and they look at me
like I'm nuts.

Right.
Well, I've done the same thing.

We've been to many locations,

and what people don't understand
is this energy is very powerful.

I don't talk about it
'cause I get emotional

because when I talked
to people that I knew,

it hurt because
they didn't believe me.

And I knew that feeling
that I had when I was skeptic.

But going in that house,
it's just...

You get that feeling of just...

[ Sighs ]

I can't explain it. I'm sorry.

My brother... He was like,

"Well, you know, we're gonna
make you a believer,"

'cause he believes in
all that stuff.

I'm just like, "Whatever, dude.

All right, let's just go."

So, we booked the trip,
an overnight stay.

And not in a million years

I ever thought
this was gonna happen.

Me and my friend Crystal...

We were walking upstairs,

and I immediately
just felt weird.

And so did she.

But we kept going.

And we were walking
past the attic,

and I just felt kind of drawn
to go in there.

And I said,
"Well, let me just peak inside.

I just want to look inside."

So, I ducked my head
down in there,

and I was just looking around.

And I came back out 'cause I was
feeling really irritated,

but my neck was getting
really hot,

and my head felt like
it was just gonna explode.

Like, I didn't feel right.

And I don't snap.

Like, I don't... Right.

And I asked her.
I said, "Did I hit something?

Like, what's wrong with me?"

And she was like, "No, what's...
Are you okay?"

And I'm like,
"No, let's just go."

Well, it started getting worse.

[ Whimpers, sniffles ]

And I was like halfway
down the stairs,

and I could feel myself
getting more and more upset.

And I didn't understand.

Like, I wasn't mad at nothing.

I got downstairs,
and my neck was just on fire.

Like, I didn't know
what was wrong.

And I asked her.

I'm like, "Did I hit something?"

And she's like, "No. Why?"

And I said, "Just look."

And that's when she looked,

and I had two scratch marks
on the back of my neck.

Let me look at these photos.

[ Exhales sharply ]

And these are the two scratches
that happened, right?

Yeah.

Okay.

Do you feel
that you were attacked?

[ Voice breaking ] Yeah.

Like, I don't understand why,
like, this stuff happens.

Like, I wasn't being mean.

I wasn't being disrespectful
at all.

And I just felt very, like...

I did not want to be upstairs.

I just... I didn't
want to be left alone.

Mm-hmm.

Do you believe that you were
attacked by possibly the killer?

I don't know
if it was the killer,

but whatever attacked...

Just something dark.

Something very dark
in that house.

Mm-hmm.

Did it really hit home
after you saw the scratches?

Yeah?

People don't understand

that it's... it's like being
attacked by a person, you know?

Well, yeah.

It's like being attacked
by a person,

except the person harms you
on the outside,

and you can learn to cope
with it eventually.

A spirit attack really harms you
on the inside

'cause that energy can seep
through your skin,

through your muscle,
and it can get to your nerves.

It transplants its energy,

and it injects you like
a syringe into your body.

And once it does that,
you're traumatized.

And it's no different

from anyone being attacked
by a bully or any aggressor.

The scratches, however,
are something

that is more,
I believe, dangerous

because it's marked you.

And I don't understand
the scratches.

It's happened to me.

I don't understand
how the scratches occur,

how they're able to do this,
but they are,

and it's very real.

It happened to you.

Well, yeah.

And...

when you know something
truly exists

and you know the spirit...
How can it not exist?

Well, yeah.

I mean, our energy is so
complex, and, you know, it's...

You leave a traumatic mark
on something,

it's bound to stay there.

Right, right.

We don't have to prove anything

to anybody who doesn't believe
in it or they're not convinced.

Who cares?

'Cause you know you did.

Yeah.

And that's
the most important thing.

And that's our philosophy.

It's clear that Katie is now
a skeptic turned believer

and that the negative energy
at The Villisca Ax Murder House

is stronger than ever.

ZAK: We've been looking
at a situation

at The Villisca Ax Murder House,

where a violent negative energy
has a hold

on its former residents
Patty and Linda

and traumatized a skeptic
turned believer... Katie.

At another location
across the country in New York

is Letchworth Village,

an abandoned mental institution

that we investigated
back in 2011.

The overcrowding
and lack of staff

resulted in the abuse
and mistreatment

of those
who desperately needed care.

It holds its own disturbing
negative energy

that is targeting urban explorer

and paranormal investigator
David Skala.

What's up, David?

I remember when we met you

and, at the time,
your girlfriend, Jackie.

I always remember
that you guys would tell us

that you were addicted
to the place.

And I always use that for when
I'm dealing with other people

that I feel
are going through oppression.

Let's play
about when you were telling me

about you're addicted
to the place.

Have you been in here
quite a few times?

Yeah, a lot, actually.

Yeah?

You know, we're pretty much
almost addicted to the place.

There was a good point in time

when we're here
three or four nights a week.

When we weren't here, you know,
it's all we'd think about.

Now, after I left,

I started wondering whatever
happened to you and Jackie.

I started wondering,
"I hope they're okay."

And I hate to say this...
I thought the worst.

How is Jackie now?

Is she okay?

[ Scoffs ]

It's...
I really barely talk to her.

'Cause, you know,
she'd gotten into things

that she shouldn't have,

and the stuff that, you know,
was going on wasn't her.

She was very self-destructive.

Was she like this before you
started going to Letchworth?

No. No.

She was...

Completely different?

Oh, yeah.

She was more like...

She was very loyal,
you know, very caring.

That just went out the window.

I remember when I was in there.

It was like I was scared,
but yet I was comfortable.

Like, it almost felt like
you were on a drug or something.

You know, you were scared,

but at the same time,
you weren't.

You started almost enjoying
the place, you know?

It was like
that energy was so thick,

it started saturating
inside of our bodies.

And we were becoming
a part of that energy.

And so that's when
I could understand

how you and Jackie
started becoming addicted

to the place...

Because that feeling...

It was almost like being induced
on some kind of a drug.

Since we saw
you and Jackie last,

I will admit,
I felt concerned for you guys.

I remember when I was speaking
with her, interviewing her,

I noticed something
just wasn't right.

Being addicted to a place that
so much dark energy occurred

and is still there...

You know, even the innocent
victims there that may...

Even though
they're innocent victims,

they still may be aggressive,
you know?

Um...

And they could have been
feeding off of her.

And there was a point

where she was telling me
about the attachment.

And I made note of it on camera.

JACKIE:
When we were coming here a lot,

I was having a lot of anxiety at
the time, which has, you know...

I don't really have it anymore,
since we've stopped coming.

I can almost sense like
how haunted places

have effects on people.

Yeah.

Just interviewing her,

I couldn't even look at her
in the eyes.

I could just feel like...
I don't know, man.

You know what I'm saying?

It's like they've been saturated
by this energy.

Or was it really them...

Right... talking?

Right. That's what I said.

The first thing she says
right off the bat...

"I'm addicted to this place."

I think they're addicted
to this place

because the spirits
are latching onto them.

Yep.

They're using their bodies,
their energy

to get out of this place,
to go explore other buildings,

other people.

It's using them.

Now, I thought that I made
a good point there in the moment

that they were calling you
back there

because they were hitching rides
in your bodies

and escaping that place.

It was almost like you were like
a human subway, you know?

You would just go there,
pick them up,

take them back
to where you're gonna go,

and they could feed
off of who else.

You're going there,
picking them back up again,

taking them back out.

Sara Bogart, a former therapy
aide at the institution

while it was
a functioning facility,

has an intimate knowledge of the
workings of Letchworth Village

and of its residents.

We let her in
on some telling evidence

that we captured
during our investigation there.

There was a voice that we
captured through an EVP,

and it said,
"Shut up, you prick."

Oh, wow.

I heard later

that you had a reaction
to that particular voice.

Unbelievable reaction.

It was just so shocking to me

because when I first
started there,

I mean, the best lesson I got

in dealing with people
with disabilities

was over that statement,
and I'll tell you why.

I used to go down
to the club they had,

and I'd eat lunch there.

And there was this girl
that was working there.

At the time,

they would call people
who were able to do things

"higher functioning."

You know, they had
other horrible names for them,

but she was higher functioning.

And she was cleaning the tables,
and I was sitting there.

And her name was Sara.

I heard people calling her Sara.

And she comes by.

I go, "Hi. Your name is Sara?
My name is Sara, too."

She goes, "Shut up, you dope."

That was a big lesson for me

because I talked to her
like she was a child.

And from that day forward,
I never did it again.

But "Shut up, you prick.

Shut up, you prick.
Shut up, you dope."

The same style of having
a conversation, you know,

and of...

Of how the voice was? Yes.

Let's watch that voice.

I'm gonna run my digital
recorder up here on the morgue.

ZAK: Right now, Aaron is
receiving an unexplained voice

as the recording is lying static
on the morgue tray.

Were you murdered
and then put on this slab?

Shut up, you prick.

[ Chuckles ]

It sounds just like,
you know, my experience.

Is that how she would say it?

Absolutely.

I still believe to this day,

if there are trapped spirits
there of these children,

they do know that we are there
to let everybody else know

about what they went through.

We are gonna go in the walls
that nobody dares to go.

After Letchworth Village aired,

the reactions to it
were polarizing.

David was subjected
to some disturbing reactions.

He lets us in on these events.

So, since our episode aired,

I understand that you've gotten
some death threats.

Yeah. Yeah.

Why?

I don't know.

I mean, there was
multiple threats online

towards, you know,
me and Jackie.

Just for going there.

Yeah.

They were mad that I was like
20-something years old,

and they're like, "You don't
know anything about the place.

You're not old enough."

That's what the Internet's for.

You do a little research,
you can find out about things.

You're not old enough
to do what?

To know about
how Letchworth really was

when it was really bad.

We exposed it in our episode.

We looked
at the old news footage.

So these people
that are giving you threats

for exposing this place

and exposing the truth
about this place,

that irritates me.

David that we interviewed
before you...

He was saying that he got
death threats for exposing...

I have gotten nothing
but positive response.

People that started
around the same time

and people that gave
their whole heart and soul,

treating people
like human beings

and giving them the respect
that, you know, you would get

and really caring about them
for who they are,

finding out who they are,
finding out that somebody...

"I like pink," you know?

"Yeah, I want to brush my hair.

I want to brush my teeth.
Let me do that."

All the people that I heard from

were people that were so pleased
that that got out.

Not just all the abuse,
but all the good things got out.

ZAK:
We're talking with David Skala,

who has been deeply affected

by his investigations
at Letchworth Village.

We dig deeper
into his experiences.

Do you think you and Jackie have
attachments from Letchworth?

Oh, definitely.

The attachment with Letchworth
kind of started

when I first started
going there.

I wasn't ghost-hunting
or anything like that.

I was like an urban explorer,

just to see how they left
the building abandoned,

but everything was still in it.

Like, they just shut down one
day and just never came back.

That night I felt
I was followed home,

I was pulling into my driveway.

My sister called me

asking why I was walking
up and down the sidewalk,

just pacing...

'cause she thought it was me.

And I didn't know
what she was talking about.

I was sitting in the car.

And so it's just...

It was pretty clear something
had followed us home

'cause it wasn't anything
like that has happened before.

And my parents started seeing
the shadow thing.

My mom seen it.

My dad thinks I'm just nuts,
[chuckles] but...

I remember you were talking
about this 7-foot man,

this large, dark shadow.

Let's watch that real quick.

It was seen by somebody else.

It was walking behind me
and another person

while we were meeting up
with the rest of our group.

And they started yelling
my name,

but I didn't know
what was going on,

so I ran over to them.

I was like,
"What are you guys doing?

Why are you yelling for me?"

And they're like,

"You didn't see what was walking
behind you?"

I was like, "No. What?"

"The thing was like 7 feet tall,
legs bent backwards,

"and when we started yelling,
'Dave, '

it looked over
with piercing white eyes."

[ Indistinct shouting ]

[ Squishing ]

[ Woman screams ]

In our investigation,

we didn't capture
a whole lot of evidence,

but we did capture
something unexplained,

which was a giant shadow
that was moving behind a window.

And let's watch that.

What the [bleep] was that, dude?

Oh, my God.

ZAK: I'm reacting to seeing
a very predominant dark shadow

moving in this back room

these loud bangs
were just coming from.

What the [bleep] Listen.

After we review our footage,
we discover something shocking.

If you look closely
behind these exposed studs,

you can see a dark,
unexplained mass

moving intelligently
in the background.

Stop it.

This is not being caused by...

What was interesting about this

is that we tried to debunk it

as one of our shadows
right away.

But we were all in that room
together,

but this shadow
was behind those studs,

as you could see it move
from behind the studs,

not on top of the studs,

which would have been
one of our shadows.

And it was very, very large.

Yeah, kind of like
broad-shouldered,

kind of, you know,
like a big guy.

Right, right.

What's interesting is that
we interviewed this guy Dave

and his girlfriend, Jackie.

And people in his group
or whatnot

would see a very tall,
dark figure.

When we were investigating,

we captured a tall, dark shadow

that we couldn't debunk
as our own.

Is there someone here with us?

You validating this
is certainly helpful

because in my house,

I started seeing a tall,
black, misty kind of image

at the foot of my bed.

SKALA: Sometimes it seems like
it's a mist,

but other times it's like
almost like a solid.

It almost looked like it was
sprayed out of an aerosol can.

I mean, that's kind of like
the texture of what it was.

But it's weird 'cause you can be
in a dark room,

and it's like darker
than your dark room, you know,

and you could still see it.

And I'd have to say it was a man

because of the height.

There was no hair.

You'll see it either like
out of the corner of your eye,

walking, either from like...

I'll be sitting watching TV
in my living room,

and you'll just see it, you
know, walk out of the kitchen

and then like through a wall.

And, you know, nobody's
ever died in our house,

so there should be no reason

that, you know, a ghost
is walking through my house.

You had asked me
if I believed in ghosts,

and I told you yeah
because I had a bad experience,

but we never discussed
what it was.

About three or four days ago,

I was talking to my sister Judy.

She said to me,

"Where were you working
when all that was going on?"

Because she watched the show
and everything tied in for her,

although it didn't tie in
for me.

Wait a minute.

So, you had a spirit so bad
at your house

while you were working
at Letchworth?

While I was working
at Letchworth.

Oh.

But never put it together.

Oh, my gosh.

That's where I was working.

About 30 years ago...

This is kind of
how it started...

I had some company over,

a couple of coworkers were over
to have dinner,

and they were sitting
on a bench, which was moving,

and they had no control over it.

The bench was moving
while they were sitting on it.

After that, the bed would move.

I had an antique clock,

and the case for the clock

would open and close,
open and close.

On occasions... The bathroom
was right off my bedroom.

The faucet would come on.

I'd get up,
and I'd go shut it off.

And I wasn't even feeling...

I mean, I knew
there was something going on,

but I wasn't feeling
like afraid.

Is this before you worked
at Letchworth?

It's when I was working
in that building.

What? [ Chuckling ] Yes.

You never told us this.

I didn't know
until three days ago.

And it got so bad
that you had to...

It got so bad
that I feared for my life.

There was times when covers
would be pulled off of me

and I felt, like, a choking.

I'd grab my Bible
and go to sleep with my Bible.

This is while you were working
at Letchworth?

I was working there.

And now you're telling me

that while you were working at
Letchworth over 30 years ago,

you would see a tall, dark
shadow figure in your home.

In my home.

Do you think you brought it
from Letchworth there?

I absolutely know it now.

I didn't know
where it came before.

I collect antiques.

I thought it was on
a piece of furniture

or something I bought.

I actually thought it was on
a crystal candelabra I bought.

But now I know
exactly where it came from.

Letchworth.

Reville building.

And now I'm finding out
that others have seen

that tall, dark spirit
or whatever it is.

I don't even know
what to call it,

but to me, it was very evil.

SKALA:
I've seen the shadow figure

standing at my doorway
of my room.

I hear noises at my house.

And I try to drown it out

by either leaving a fan on
in my window.

I don't care
if it's freezing out.

My fan's in my window.

Or my TV going all the time
so I don't hear it.

There was a time

where I've been choked out
before in my sleep,

and I woke up to having
something holding me down,

pinned to my bed.

And I don't know how
I didn't wake my parents up

'cause I screamed, "Get the..."

I was like, "Get the [bleep]
off me," as loud as I could.

And that thing just...
Poof, gone.

And I could just sit back up.

Weirdest thing ever.

I just felt the pressure
on my shoulders

just holding me down, just...

[ Exhales sharply ]

Little mini-heart-attack moment.

ZAK:
We're talking with Sara Bogart,

former employee
of Letchworth Village,

about her personal
paranormal experiences

that she had while working
at the institution.

I was really, really afraid
of being harmed.

I had a friend that came

and cleaned out
the place for me.

Did you have an exorcism
performed on you or your house?

On my house. I moved out of it.

While all these events
were going on,

you had to call a priest
to do an exorcism on the house?

Well, it was a holy woman.
It wasn't a priest.

A holy woman. Okay.

I was scared.

I was scared because
I thought this thing

was really trying to hurt me,
bring harm to me.

Something... I mean,
that's an important part

about doing a show like this
and bringing you back...

To see if you connected
with any of our evidence.

I spent my whole life tormented

over a bad experience I had,

and if we didn't go up there,

I would never have connected
what was going on in my life.

Through our interview?

Well, through your interview.

It forced people that I know...
My sister...

To go back to, you know,
the experience that I had.

Did our episode,
our investigation help you?

Yes, it did.

It helped me. It really did.

I felt...
Not just for me personally.

I felt very good about...

Most of the people that are
in there have crossed my path.

I think it's the unity
of mass audiences...

Absolutely.

...to feel that emotion

and to just be aware
of what happened there.

And I think that helps
in any kind of grieving.

Can't change what happened. No.

But we can certainly make things
a little bit more peaceful

for them now.

Your emotions told the story

when we interviewed you there,
as well.

Can I ask you... What kept
your sanity, working here?

How did you stick it out?

I almost left in the first week.

In the first week,
you almost did?

In the first week,
I almost left,

and when I got to meet
some of the people,

I noticed that,
you know, I mean,

I just taught somebody
how to hold a hairbrush.

And they did like this,

and they smiled every time they
see me after that, you know?

And they wouldn't get a bath,
you know,

if there was only two people on.

So I would come in on my day
off, and I'd take them down...

Because they couldn't move
anything.

You run hot water down
their back, and they... "Ahh."

You know,
how could you not do that?

Yeah.

So, yeah, I'm very proud
to be a part of this,

be a part of where we went,

and I hope that I touched
some lives and made them better.

You did.
You did touch their lives.

Yeah. They sure touched mine.

Yeah.

So, Letchworth will forever be
a part of you.

Oh, my God.

It's what molded me...

Yeah.

...you know, to see that,

you know, people had such
terrible, terrible disabilities.

I just couldn't have...

If I didn't see it myself,
I would never believe it.

We were on a mission to,
you know, improve their lives

and to just do what we could

to bring a little bit of peace
into their life.

Part of what we do
on our episodes,

on our investigations, too,

is not just do a whole show

where we're just investigating
inside of a building,

getting evidence,

but we tell the history.

And we tell what happened
to human life,

whether or not people
want to try and forget about

and move on and say,
"Oh, that was in the past.

Why does it affect now?"

Because it happened,
and it happened to human beings.

Well, I think it affects
the spirits, as well.

I think that people
are unsettled and stay

because
they're just so unsettled.

I think it just lets them
just release that,

and, you know, I think
it's a very good thing

that you go in these places

and expose, you know,
phenomenas that...

The truth. Yep, absolutely

ZAK: What happened there
is to be remembered.

What happened there
is not to be forgotten

so that it never happens again.

We've seen that
when a negative spirit

attaches itself to someone,

it can leave not only mental,
but physical damage.

You leave a traumatic mark
on something,

it's bound to stay there.

By sharing their stories and
working through the experience,

we can only hope that it brings
some sort of solace

in knowing
that they are not alone.

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