Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 8, Episode 5 - Joseph & Sabrina - full transcript
Joseph's been sending Sabrina his love and his money but his sister doesn't buy Sabrina's lies and calls in Nev and Kamie for some truth.
- Four years ago,
Joseph meets this girl Sabrina
on Facebook.
- "This is the girl.
"This is the one that
you actually need
to settle down with."
- Wait. Her daughter died?
- What?
- This is wild as [bleep].
- Yeah.
- Homie is getting played.
- That's her right there.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- "I need your help."
"Help."
For almost a decade,
"Catfish" has brought
desperate hopefuls
the answers they deserve.
- Thank you guys so much
for bringing us together.
- This time around, though,
we flipped the script.
Now I'm heading out
with my cohost, Kamie.
- Who's ready to go fishing?
- We're helping people
who need us the most.
Let's do it.
Only they have no idea.
- She doesn't know
I reached out to you guys.
- Oh, my goodness.
- This season,
we're being tipped off
by friends...
- I care about him a lot.
- Family...
- My brother's really
in love with her.
- And even anonymous sources.
Whoa.
- What?
- This is from
the whistle-blower.
Ride-or-dies
who will not sit back
while their loved ones
get played.
- ♪ Come on and catch me now ♪
- Why can't we meet?
- Homey is getting played.
So many layers.
- 'Cause even when
you don't know it...
Chill, chill, chill.
- [bleep] him, man.
- Take a second.
- [exhales]
- "Catfish" has your back.
[dramatic musical sting]
I wanted to say
I love your hair.
- Thank you.
- What's involved
in getting it...
- Oh, God.
Where do you want to start?
Having natural hair,
your hair will look different
every single day.
If there is an ounce more
of humidity in the air,
my air responds.
- Let's see what happens
to your hair
when I read this email.
- [mimics explosion]
[laughs]
- "He doesn't see it.
"Hey, Nev and Kamie.
"My name is Krystal.
"I'm writing
because I'm worried
"that my big brother Joseph
is being catfished.
"For the past eight months,
"my brother has been talking
to this girl Sabrina.
"Really beautiful,
"and my brother has gone
all in on her.
- ♪ Having you
is my only religion ♪
- She makes him laugh and makes
him into a total mush ball,
which is really funny to me.
- ♪ Being with you
is an easy decision ♪
- But they've never
video chatted.
My brother not asking someone
to video chat is not surprising
'cause he's an idiot.
- [giggles]
- But it turns out this girl
hasn't ever asked him
to video chat.
- ♪ 'Cause I'm ecstatic,
baby ♪
- "I'm sorry, but that's
just not possible.
"What 19-year-old girl
is like, 'Oh, yeah,
let's talk for eight months
without me seeing you'?"
- Facts.
- ♪ When I'm with you ♪
- "Oh, and speaking of her
being 19,
"my brother
only just found that out.
"Apparently, she told him
she was older,
"and someone else
spilled the beans.
"If she's lying about that,
what else is she lying about?
- ♪ And there ain't nothin'
that I can do ♪
♪ My love for her is true ♪
- "Being a good sister,
"I went and took a closer
look at her profile.
Guys, it's not good."
- [laughs]
- "She doesn't look 19,
and nobody in the comments
seems to know her."
- This is a good sister.
- This is great.
"My brother's a great guy,
and he deserves
"good things in his life.
"Please help him
"before he wastes more
of his time
"on this person.
Thank you, Krystal."
♪ ♪
- I like Krystal.
Good sibling.
- Let's find out more
about this Sabrina.
[computer chiming]
- Krystal.
- Hey.
- Hello.
- What's up?
- Hi. How are you?
I can't believe it's you guys.
- Tell us about yourself.
- So I'm basically, like,
just a 22-year old.
I'll be going back to school
soon to be an aesthetician.
- Cool.
- Okay.
- And I have a brother.
- Joseph is your brother.
- Yes.
- And how old is Joseph?
- 26.
- So, okay, we read your email.
- Yeah.
- Tell us the whole story.
- He's been talking
to Sabrina for,
he told me,
six to eight months.
They're really on the phone
all day, every day.
He seems to be pretty
in love with her, I guess.
But they've never
FaceTimed ever,
and they talked
about him moving to her,
where she lives,
and living with her.
- Is she--how do I say this?
Is she, like...
- A thirst trap?
- Right.
- Definitely, it looks like it
in her pictures.
- So where is Joseph right now?
- Actually, at work,
but I could pull him in
real quick.
- Patch him in, sis.
[computer chimes]
- Hey.
- Hey.
- Oh [bleep].
- Welcome to "Catfish."
- So can you kind of just
fill us all in
a little bit more
about Sabrina
and how you met
and, like, what her deal is?
- I met Sabrina
4 1/2 years ago.
- Whoa.
- During that time,
we were just being friends
and talking.
But we re-connected,
and it's been about, like,
a year and a half nonstop
talking in our relationship.
She's real pretty.
She's outgoing.
She's very open-minded.
- You guys say
that you love each other?
- Yeah, we say
we love each other.
I've been around
other females,
but like, the energy of love
is different with her.
- And how old is she today?
'Cause we heard it's changed.[laughs]
- I thought she
was around my age,
but recently I found out
that she's, like, 19.
- Who told you?
- Oh...
well, see, this
is what happened, is...
- Oh, God.
What happened was...
- I kind of got caught
talking to her cousin,
and then they told me
that her real age was 19.
- Well...
- Joseph.
- Got it....aha.
- Bro.
- She--she was furious
about that, you know?
- But you're in love
with Sabrina.
- Yes. A lot.
- Your sister thinks
you need some help
finally meeting this girl.
- I'd like to find out
who's on the other side
of that screen.
- That's my big brother,
and I look up to him,
and I don't want him
to end up hurt
and this person not
be who they say they are.
- Then we're definitely
down to help out.
We can fly to Phoenix.
- I'd rather fly out to you
and keep the family
out the business
and keep her out the business.
- I know. All right.
So you want to come to LA?
That's fine with us.
- Yes. Yeah, yeah.
- I mean, we'll arrange
for you to fly out to LA.
We'll meet up with you tomorrow
and then figure out
what the next step is.
- Hopefully, she's real.
You know what I'm saying?
And if she's not,
I'll take you to dinner,
okay, Krystal?
- Cheesecake Factory.
- Oh, my God.
I love Cheesecake Factory.
- Okay, so it's a deal.
All right.
- Have a good day.
- See you soon.
- Bye, guys.
Wow. Where are you leaning?
What is your hair telling you?
- When I see the photos,
my hair will know.
- ♪ I got a new craving ♪
♪ Driving me crazy ♪
- Our guy has landed
at the airport.
All right.
Keep your eyes open.
- ♪ Hey, hey, hey ♪
- Oh, I see him.
Wow, he travels light.
What's up, Joseph?
- Hello. Hello.
Nice to meet you, brother man.
- You too.
Jump in.
How you doing?
- It's crazy.
My little sister, man.
- Has she ever done
something like this before?
- No.
- Well, here we are.
[upbeat music]
- We got you in a suite.
both: The Grammy suite.
- Wow.
- Oh, wow, Okay.
- Oh my goodness.
We could have a party here.
- This is a nice spot.
- Well look, give us
the whole story
from, you know, day one.
- I met Sabrina on Facebook.
I liked her eyes, and she
had that smile, you know?
I was like, "Yo." I was like,
"What's good with it?"
And it was like, all right,
we conversate
for, like, a few months.
- Had you exchanged
phone numbers at this point?
- No, no.
We never exchanged numbers.
- Okay, so it was just
Facebook.
- It was just Facebook
at the time.
Then, like, we lost contact
for, like, two years.
- Wow. Did you end up getting
into other relationships?
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I would talk
to other females.
- Okay, but then, somehow,
Sabrina came
back into your life.
- Yeah, yeah.
Boom, Sabrina popped up,
like nothing ever happened.
And that's how
we started talking again.
- And you're talking
on the phone now.
- Yeah, yeah.
We exchanged numbers.
Sending each other pictures
and all that.
She real goofy with [bleep]
and then, like,
she's real smart on [bleep].
I know she stays with a smile
when she talks to me.
Same with me.
We started talking
for days and weeks,
and weeks turned to months,
then months into a year.
And I'm like,
"Bro, like, that's crazy."
But during all that,
I got a message one time
from a random girl
and, like, she was like,
"I'm so into you,"
this and that.
So I was like, "Cool."
I was like, "Okay."
So I started messaging her.
A couple days later, I find out
that girl was Sabrina's cousin.
- Isn't that weird?
- Yeah. Kind of blew my mind.
I was like,
"You all know each other?"
- That's how you found out
that they were family?
- Yeah, that's how I found out
they was family.
- Oh, okay. Whoa.
- So she sent those messages
and I was like, "What?"
Me and Sabrina
got into an argument.
- Did she think you were also
messing around
with other girls,
too, potentially?
- Right. Potentially.
- And were you?
- Were you?
- I was, probably.
- Joseph.
- That's when I found out
that Sabrina was 19.
Her cousin was like, "I don't
know why you're with her.
"She's 19 years old.
You need to be
with someone older."
So, from there, like,
I tried to cut ties
with each
and every one of them.
But Sabrina didn't
want to go.
She stuck around,
and I was like,
"You must really,
really be into me."
So I really committed myself
to Sabrina.
"This is the girl."
I was like, "This is the one
that you actually need
to settle down with."
Stopped a lot of [bleep]for her.
Stopped messing around
and, like, just started
focusing on her
and just trying
to build something different.
- Sounds like you're
finally at a point
where you're genuinely
committed to Sabrina,
more so than you've
ever been to any girl.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Honestly, yeah.
- I mean, I gotta--I want
to see this girl.
- I want to see her. Yeah.
- This is Sabrina.
- Sabrina. She's cute.
- She's definitely
very attractive.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- That woman is not
19 years old.
She's definitely older.
- That's what's weird too.
This whole time I thought
she was older than me.
- Can I just see your...
- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- Your messages?
Wow, you really do text a lot.
"Everything all right, love?"
What's this about a grave?
- She asked to get any ideas
for, like, how to raise money.
- Did she ask you
for money or...
- No.
She's just saying how much.
- But you've never
sent her money.
- No, not really.
Just sent her
some food money once.
- So yes--the answer
is "Yes, I did send money."
- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- How much was the food?
- 20 bucks.
I only sent her 20 bucks.
- How many times?
- Like two times.
- She asked for the money,
though?
- Yeah, yeah. She was like,
"I'm just hungry."
Well, 'cause her apartment
caught on fire, and like...
- [scoffing]
- [groans]
- So I was like--
well, I was like--
bro, I was like--I was like,
"Bro, go eat something, yo."
- [groaning] Oh, God.
- Tragic loss.
Apartment's on fire.
Oh my God.
- Well, look, there's a lot
of stuff involved here.
- Yeah.
- Whatever you have,
try to put it all
in one email to us.
- Cool, cool. Got you.
- Okay.
- I appreciate you, man.
- Hasta manana.
- Talk to you later.
- Oh, boy.
I really like Joseph.
- He seems cool.
But homey is getting played,
because he's been playing
others for a very long time.
- Right, but then finally
feels like he's ready
to get serious about a girl,
and if it turns out
Sabrina's lying to him,
it's gonna really suck for him.
- I don't think he's a bad guy,
but karma is coming for him,
and it is coming hard.
[upbeat music]
- Thank you.
Let's get down to business.
- All right.
Recap.
So four years ago,
Joseph meets this girl Sabrina
on Facebook.
They become friends.
And then, for whatever reason,
they stop talking.
Then Sabrina shows back up.
They are now boyfriend
and girlfriend.
- I'm going with
"Sabrina's a catfish."
- And she just likes
messy, fun internet drama.
- Yeah, why not?
- All right, well, let's begin.
We've got Sabrina's Facebook.
We have her address in Denver.
"I attached three pictures
she sent me the last few weeks.
"I hope Sabrina is
who she says she is,
"and we can move past
everything to build
our future lives together."
All right.
He knows her on Facebook,
so let's just check out
her Facebook.
- Sabrina Gomez.
- So here's one of her
profile pictures,
it's got 150 likes.
- She's beautiful.
- Yeah, she's very pretty.
And there's a picture of her
with a small young lady.
- "You have a gorgeous
daughter," Armando says.
So she has a kid.
He never mentioned
her having a child.
What the [bleep]?
Is that, like,
not an important detail?
What about the child?
Why would he not tell us that?
- I don't know how to explain.
We'll have to ask him about it.
Oh, here's a picture of her
with her daughter.
"I miss you so much, baby."
Wait.
♪ ♪
Did...her kid die?
♪ ♪
Oh, man.
Is her story that she
had a daughter who died?
Yeah.
- "Eileen, I miss you so much."
- It was May of last year.
Oh, here we go.
Wow, there's like a--
there's a couple videos here.
- "Rest in peace, Eileen."
♪ ♪
- So her daughter died?
"I love you so much.
"I think about you
every single day.
"You're no longer
in pain or hurt.
Give mommy the strength, baby."
Jeez. How would Joseph
not have mentioned that?
- That would be a very
prominent aspect
of her life story.
But this page doesn't even--
we don't even know
if this is a real page
or not, at this point.
- Right.
I take we need to photo search
some of these pictures.
Let's see if these come up.
♪ ♪
No. Hmm.
♪ ♪
No.
No hits.
both: Oh!
- Sabrina.
- What?
- So who is this?
Sabrina [bleep].
Different last name. She's 26.
Look, pictures
with her daughter.
This was six days ago.
Eileen alive.
A daughter alive.
Right, so clearly,
her daughter is not dead.
- Eileen. She's alive.
- Okay.
- But is this another
fake page?
- Possibly.
Would be weird if it was run
by the same person
who's running the Facebook,
because on the Facebook,
Eileen is dead.
- Yeah.
- On this page,
Eileen's very much alive.
- Yes.
This one feels more real.
- What does that say?
That says Eileen Mondia.
♪ ♪
Mm!
You want me to enhance?
♪ ♪
- Honor roll thing.
- Right.
- But it has
the principal's name.
- That's true.
- So we can look up
the principal's name...
- Jennifer...
- And find the school.
- [bleep].
Let's do a Google search
for Jennifer [bleep] principal.
♪ ♪
[bleep] Christian Schools,
which is in Los Angeles.
So even if this isn't
the real profile,
there's evidence on this one
the girl in the pictures...
- Mm-hmm.
- And her daughter...
- Live in California.
- Live in California.
- And if we can find out what
school the kid goes to,
anybody else
can figure it out too.
That could be a serious
security issue
for this person
and her daughter.
- That's true.
Let's call the school.
[line ringing]
- [whispers] Jennifer.
- Oh, hi.
I am making a TV show
that you may have heard of
called "Catfish."
- Well, we believe
that one of your students,
Eileen Mondia,
and her mother--
looks like someone's
using photos
of her and her daughter
to create fake profiles.
Our concern is this person
is lying to guys.
Obviously, that puts
one of your students at risk.
- So we'd like to let
her mother know that,
because, obviously,
we're concerned.
- Right. Great.
Thanks so much.
- All right, bye.
Okay.
- You did the right thing.
- All right, so let's
send an email.
- "Eileen Mondia in danger."
I feel like
we're making headway.
- All right, great.
All right, so what
do we have here?
- A whole bunch of
bull[bleep].
- I think it's pretty clear now
that the real woman
in the photos
lives in Los Angeles,
and it does sound
like the woman behind all this
is lying about having
a daughter who is now deceased.
- I can't believe
that he did not tell us that.
I have multiple questions
to ask Joseph,
and I need answers
to all of them.
[line ringing]
- Yes, Joseph.
- Joseph...
- How are you?
- You have some
'splaining to do.
- Where are you?
- Oh, yeah? All right.
We found some
very interesting information
that we want to share
with you.
Stay where you are.
We'll come get you.
- All right. See you soon.
- Let's see
what's good with it.
- Let's check it out.
- Hey.
- How you doing today?
- What's up, man?
- Norman.
- Kamie. Nice to meet you.
- Kamie.
- This is not a typical museum.
- Oh, my God.
Look at this place.
- This car is one of the pride
and joys of the museum.
It was found in a barn.
- Imagine trying to park
that thing.
- Cool.
- Wow.
- So pretty.
- This one is a piece
of American history.
Ford GT40.
- That thing is cool.
- Jump in.
- Really? Whee!
[horn honks]
- This has been great.
- Okay.
- Thank you so much.
- Thanks so much, Norman.
- Yes.
- All right.
What do you
think of the Peterson?
- It was pretty--it
was pretty cool.
- What was your favorite?
- The Batman car.
The 1989.
- '89 era.
- Yeah.
- The best.
- It was cool.
- It is.
- All right, let's dive in.
'Cause we want to get
your take on all this.
- Cool, cool.
- So we started
on her Facebook page.
We scrolled through
some of her photos.
I think--I don't know
if it's in this...
- Oh, and there's this.
- Sabrina has a daughter?
You never mentioned that.
- Yeah, I didn't mention it
because, like,
it's personal with her,
you know what I'm saying?
She would break down and cry
once in every while,
and she was like, "I miss her,"
and go crazy, bananas.
- Whoa.
- Did she say what happened?
- What I was told is the child
was with the father
and she ran outside and--
- And, like, got hit
by a car or something?
- Something like that. Yeah.
- Yeah. I mean, it's horrible.
Like, the story
that's she's telling you
about how her daughter died
is horrible.
- It is, you know.
- I understand you not
mentioning it
because you thought
it's a personal thing.
- Touchy subject.
- Yeah, it is.
- Fine, but then this is where
things got really interesting.
We did a Google search
for one of the pictures
and it brought us
to an Instagram account
for someone named
Sabrina [bleep].
Different last name.
- You've never seen
this account.
- No.
- But look.
Very recently,
a picture of her daughter.
Very much alive.
- ♪ I got eyes
in the walls ♪
♪ And they know
what we did...♪
- That's [bleep].
That's [bleep].
This is like [bleep]
my whole inside up.
- ♪ I can't hide...♪
- That [bleep] [bleep] wild.
- Yeah.
- Super intense.
- Right. Is she using the death
of this imaginary daughter
to make people feel bad for her
and then potentially
get them to do things?
- I feel like you need
to take a deep breath.
- Hell yeah.
- So now, I'm wondering,
because of the fact
that she has been able
to manipulate you.
You said
you've only given her--
- Food money and [bleep].
And nail money too.
- Wait, so what--so what else
have you sent her money for?
- I only sent her money
to clean the headstone.
- Clean a headstone?
Hold on.
I think you guys seen
that message, when--
- No.
- No.
- I thought that was
a different friend
who had passed.
- Oh, I--
- No.
- Wait, so she said,
"I need some money
to help clean the headstone
of my dead daughter."
- I never tried to bring up
that situation
about her or her daughter,
and I just left it at that,
thinking that her daughter
was deceased.
- Well, and I don't blame you.
She posted a whole video
with an "R.I.P"
and "I'm so sad,
I miss you so much," I mean...
- That's crazy.
- Look, half of the story...
[phone chiming]
Who's this?
Hello.
- Hi.
- [whispering] Oh!
It's her!
- Yeah, hi.
Sabrina, this is Nev
from "Catfish."
- Is there any chance
you could FaceTime, or...
- All right, yeah.
Find a safe spot to pull over.
Hi.
- Hi.
- So we're helping a young guy
from Phoenix who,
for a while now,
has been in a relationship
with a girl named Sabrina.
She uses your pictures
and your name.
She even uses photos
of your daughter
and said that
your daughter was deceased.
- Wow.
- Obviously,
contacting
your kid's school is,
like--if I was a mom,
I would be like...
- "Who's calling?"
- Yes!
- Well, that's what we wanted,
to make sure that's she's not.
- Right. Wow.
- So this is Joseph.
- Yo, how you doing?
- Hi.
- Hello.
- And I know this is awkward,
but I just want to confirm
that you guys
have not been communicating.
- No.
- Yeah. No, it's all good.[bleep].
- So do you guys have
any idea who it is?
- No.
- No, we actually thought
maybe you might have some idea.
- No idea.
Let's see who it is.
Let's get to the bottom
of it.
- Yeah, yeah.
Well, if we figure
anything out,
of course we'll let you know.
- Okay.
- All right.
Thank you so much, Sabrina.
- Bye.
- Bye, guys.
- All right, bye.
- Bye. Sorry.
- It's cool.
- I know, I'm sorry.
- Now, we need to decide
what we want to do.
So the most direct path to
the truth is to just call her.
- I want to get to
the bottom.
Like, they shouldn't be
doing that [bleep].
- Right.
- You know what I'm saying?
Like, that's crazy.
- I'm gonna go call her.
I'll see what she says.
All right? I'll right back.
- The thing
that I'm most upset about
is the fact
that we can't figure--
- The child.
- Well, yeah, that, obviously.
- That just makes me mad.
Like, that--
- It's disgusting.
- You lied about a child.
Like, that's crazy.
[line ringing]
- Yes, hi, is this Sabrina?
- Hey, I am a friend of Joseph,
your boyfriend.
We're making an episode
of my TV show, "Catfish."
Are you familiar with the show?
- So he now knows
that you're not the girl
in the pictures
that he's been looking at,
and also that the daughter--
- But why do you think that?
I mean...
[hang up beeping]
- I ruined everything?
All right,
well, I spoke to her.
I was like, "Look, we do know
that Sabrina's this person
and that's not you."
And she got upset, was like,
"You ruined everything."
And then she hung up.
- Bitch, what?
We ruined everything?
- Well, it actually
gave me the sense
that she really does like you
and care about you.
- But who the hellare you?
- Now that you know
she's lying,
she just assumes, like,
you're never gonna love her
and then it's over.
But I get the sense that you
do still want to meet her.
- Yeah, I do.
- So I think you should
text her and advocate
on your own behalf,
and say, like, "Look..."
- "I still want to meet you."
- "I really"--yeah.
Or whatever--however
you would say it.
You have a real
poetic elegance
that I don't want to
infringe upon.
- Don't go off on her, though.
- I won't.
- No, just make it--right.
- You've got to try to
reel her in so we get
the catfish.
- Yeah, you've got
to smooth talk.
- Gotcha.
That's--that's--
that's crazy, man.
- Did you send it?
- Yeah, yeah.
- What'd you say?
- You send a message that fast?
- Yeah, yeah.
both: What'd you say?
- I said call me.
I said, "Call me, shawty."
I said, "Call me, shawty.
What you doing?"
you said do it how I do it.
That's how I do it.
- Oh, my God...
- I just feel like she's not--
[phone chimes]
She's emotional right now.
Oh, what'd she say?
She wrote back?
- Yeah, she just messaged me.
- It worked.
- This is very fast.
- She's like, "I can't really
talk to you right now."
- Okay, so she's emotional.
So that's why we're saying,
give her
something to think about.
Oh, whoa, she just wrote,
"Stop playing.
"I really love you
and I've put up with more
than any other woman would."
So let me just--let me just--
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do that, do that.
- "Look, I know [bleep]
right now is crazy.
"Doesn't change what we have.
"Our friendship
means a lot to me.
I would like to meet you.
I'm ready to come to Denver."
- Oh, bro, this is crazy.
This is too insane.
My palm's sweaty and my heart
pounding like crazy.
[phone chimes]
- She wrote,
"Do you really love me?"
[suspenseful music]
- [bleep] I have love for her,
you know what I'm saying?
I do. But, like, this is
just like [bleep] insane.
- Just say, "I'm willing to
come and see you, aren't I?"
- "I'm down to fly across
the country to see you."
- She said, "When?"
- Right now.
- Tomorrow a.m.
- Tomorrow.
- Oh, she said, "I don't know
where I'll be tomorrow.
I'll let you know where
to meet me when you get here."
All right, so that's...good.
That's, like,
basically and invite.
- Yep.
- "Okay, that works."
All right.
We got a date.
- We got a date.
- With mystery lady.
- Oh [bleep].
- First thing tomorrow,
we're gonna get on a plane.
- Bright and early.
- Will do.
- See you in the morning.
Let's get out of here.
- How's it going?
- Good morning.
Good morning to you.
- Literally the top
of the morning.
- The top of the morning.
- She texted you back.
- All right.
That's--that's promising.
- ♪ The skies'll never
let you go ♪
♪ It's all you've been
looking for ♪
- There it is.
- ♪ And the minute ♪
♪ That you have to go...♪
- A little bit closer
to the truth.
Closer and closer.
[phone chimes]
Oh, you got a message?
- Yes.
"You can meet me at...
- "West Ford Ave."
both: in Denver."
- Okay.
[phone tune]
Who's that?
- Oh, that's my little sister.
Hey, what's up?
- On my way to find out
what's really going on.
- we're on our way right now
to meet the real girl,
but we did find out she's not
the girl in the pictures.
- So he does owe you
Cheesecake Factory.
- So I owe you
Cheesecake Factory.
- All right, cool.
Well, I'm going check up
with you when we're done.
- Thanks, Krystal.
- All right, thank you.
My emotions are up and down
and, like, my thoughts
are, like, spinning.
Just like, "Why are you playing
with my kindness?"
- I think you should just
go on ahead and assume
that everything that
she's ever told you is a lie.
- True.
- This is the park.
- I don't see anybody.
- That is weird.
What if that's her
right there?
- Where?
- Between these trees?
- There is someone right there.
- Why is she hiding creepily
in the trees?
[suspenseful music]
- Let's see if we can get
a closer look.
- [gasps] Oh!
- Is that her?
Should we go check it out?
Okay.
♪ ♪
Oh, now she's walking away.
- What? Oh no.
- Maybe she's nervous.
Come on.
I think that's her.
- Uh, 'scuse me.
- Hello, ma'am?
Hello?
- This is all you.
- All right, I got this.
Hello?
- This is all you.
- All right, I got this.
[suspenseful music]
Hello?
♪ ♪
You know me?
Hmm?
What's your name?
- Patricia.
- Patricia.
Cool.
So...
Why all this?
- Um...
It was never, like,
with malicious intent.
It never was.
- But you still played with
emotions and [bleep].
- I mean, I can't force you
to believe it,
but the feelings
really weren't a lie.
[tense music]
- Is that he only profile that
you ever made in your life?
- Yep, and for you
to believe it--
Like I said,
I'm not gonna force you to.
- But, like,
why'd you let
a child into the situation
that wasn't even real?
I just want to know,
why would--why'd you do that?
- I did lose a kid myself.
Little girl.
- So that's real?
- That's real.
I need a minute.
I need a minute.
- Cool.
Take a minute.
- Hey, sorry. We didn't--
I didn't--we wanted
to let you guys talk,
but I don't want you to leave
before I get to say hello.
- Hi.
- What's your name?
I'm sorry?
- Patricia.
- Patricia. This is Kamie.
- Hi.
- I'm Nev.
I understand this is emotional.
It's a lot.
- Yeah.
- But don't walk away
for a minute.
So, Patricia...
- Yes.
You're from Denver.
- I am. Mm-hmm.
- Okay, and how old are you?
- I'm 20.
- You're 20.
- Yes.
- So you--okay.
And when did you
start the Sabrina profile?
- Four years ago.
- Okay, so around the time
that you met him
was when you first
created the page.
- Right.
- Was there a reason
initially, or--
- I've always been, like,
a bigger girl,
so I've been bullied
all the way from the time
I entered school
till almost till I got out.
So I was, like, a sophomore.
And then there was this guy,
and he's like, "Hey, I think
you're really beautiful."
And he had a plan for us
to go to the movies.
And I was waiting
and waiting and waiting,
and I finally get
a text from him.
And he's like,
"Hey, this was a joke.
It was a prank.
It was a bet."
So that kind of
just destroyed me.
I was like, "Why am I someone's
laughingstock," you know?
That put me in a dark place.
I just wanted to be called,
like, pretty.
So that's, then,
when I had made that page.
- I mean, I totally understand
initially doing it
just to kind of get
some positive feedback.
But, at some point,
did it become clear to you
that you could use the profile
to lure men in
and then kind of get them
to possibly do things?
- No. I'm not
that type of person.
- But, at some point,
you started asking for money.
- I never asked for money.
- Food and getting
your nails done.
- He told us that he did
send you some stuff.
- Yeah.- Right?
- Okay, I understand that.
- Yeah, for food.
- You did.
- You just like used
my kindness and [bleep].
- I just don't know
what to say.
- What about the cousin?
- Do you have
other fake profiles?
- I just had those two.
- Wait, so the Sabrina one
and the cousin?
- Mm-hmm.
- So that's fake?
- Right.
- That was a fake
profile as well?
- So that was you.
- Right.
I friend requested him
because he was messaging,
flirting with other friends,
and there was other females on
Instagram he was flirting with.
So I kind of needed
to catch him in the act.
- Hard for you to justify...
- Right.
- As someone who's been
lying to him.
- The whole time.
- It's a tough sort
of case to make.
- Right.
- What I ever do to you
for you
to impersonate and come back
as someone fake
and [bleep] with my feelings?
- Actually, let me just
start off by saying
I had a daughter
April '15--2015.
So I had her,
and she was just not developed.
- She was premature.
- Right.
So we were sitting
in the hospital,
so I made Sabrina's page,
because I was sitting there
kind of, like, bored
and hoping my daughter would,
you know, make a recovery.
So that gave me
something to do.
- So wait a second.
So you started the profile
while
you were in the hospital...
- Right.
- With your daughter.
- Yes. Yeah.
- But you just told us
a different version
of the story.
- So I had just went through
this guy, like,
making me his laughingstock,
and I was in the hospital
with my daughter,
[tearfully] trying to see
if she has a fighting chance.
So we were in the hospital
until December,
and they unhooked her
from NICU.
She didn't live
past three hours.
So that was, like,
where it was getting deeper,
'Cause that's my child,
you know?
[uneasy music]
♪ ♪
- Obviously, like,
it's impossible
not to feel for you.
We all feel for you.
But if this story is true,
and you're someone who has had
a daughter who passed,
how can you fathom
creating that scenario
for another woman
and her child?
- I'm not making
a pity story.
Like, all I can say
is I'm sorry.
All the "I love you,"
that wasn't fake.
- I'm kind of done for the day.
- All right.
All right.
Well, look, this is a big deal.
Would you be willing to meet us
tomorrow and see what we can--
- Come up tomorrow?
- Yeah.
- Okay.
- We'll speak to you soon.
- That was a lot.
- That was intense.
- You can't help
but to feel for her,
because she's obviously been
through a lot of [bleep]
for someone
who's only 20 years old.
- True.
- But, at the same time,
it's hard to know how much
of her story to believe.
- Her story, you know, is lies.
I just feel like
it's a messed up story,
what happened with her
daughter and stuff,
but, like,
considering the lies,
and how do we know
that she wasn't just using that
to get what she wants?
- And it sounded like,
when you were over here
with her, she said
she only had the one profile.
- Yeah.
- But then slowly,
it came out about
the second one.
That makes me wonder, like,
is she being completely honest?
- Right. I feel like
everything's a lie.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
It's like, who's the real you?
[knocking on door]
- Yep.
- Good morning.
[giggling]
- Check this out--I found
Patricia's real Facebook page.
She's a real person.
She's got a real Facebook.
- Did you notice anything
about her mentioning a baby?
- I don't know, I don't see
anything but Let's scroll down.
Doesn't look like 2015
was a year spent
in the hospital with a sick kid
who then passed away.
Look, I can't be the one
to second-guess whether or not
she really did have a premature
child who then passed away
or if she told us
to elicit sympathy.
- Yeah.
- I'm not gonna press her
on that.
- It's a touchy thing.
I would hope that she wouldn't
make something like that up.
[knock on door]
- Right.
- Good morning.
- Good morning, good morning.
- How you feeling
about everything?
- Kind of concerned about a lot
because it's lie after lie,
and, like, who knows what lie
is true and what lie isn't.
- Right.
- How am I supposed to trust
what you say?
- Right, I mean,
we just scrolled through her
Facebook back into 2015,
and she looks pretty happy.
There's no mention
of any great loss or tragedy.
- It's hard to not believe
what she's saying.
- But it's also hard
to believe her.
Until she's honest with us
and herself,
there's only so much we can
really get through to her.
All right, let's message her.
Okay, we can meet
at a place called Neighbors.
- I felt like a lot of stuff
is just, like, a lot of lies.
Really don't know
what to believe.
[tense music]
Good afternoon.
- Hey.
- Hey.
- Here, have a seat here.
Hello again.
How are you feeling?
- Actually, a got a text
message last night
saying some nasty things.
Do you mind if I--
- "You're a [bleep] disgusting
bitch for catfishing.
"Don't let me find out
where you live
because you'll be done for, ho.
[bleep] pig. [bleep]."
- What the [bleep]?
- How did this person
get your number?
- That's what I'm trying
to ask you.
It's a Phoenix number.
I don't know
if it was maybe you.
- You thought that text
could have come from...
- Yeah.
- Joseph?
- Yeah.
Him or, like,
somebody he has told.
- No, I haven't told anybody,
except my little sister.
Everybody thinks I'm at work.
- That's true.
How would they know?
- Yeah.
- How would they know
it was you?
- I don't know.
- I find that [bleep] strange
as [bleep], though,
'cause, like...
- So do I.
- Can't you see who texted you?
What's the number?
- It's...
- 'Cause we can Spokeo it.
What's the area code
of the number?
- 408. Phoenix.
- That's not a Phoenix number.
You probably thought
it was a 480 number,
'cause 480 is a Phoenix number.
- Okay, yeah, so that's why
I kind of connected it to him.
- But if it's a text app
number,
then you can create
any area code you want.
- Yeah, that's [bleep].
That's not--definitely not me.
- Well, why don't we give you
guys a minute to talk,
and then we can all said
good-bye for now.
- Okay.
What I would want,
going forward,
is at least a friendship,
but, you know,
that's entirely up to you,
'cause you had to go
through it.
And I respect your decisions.
There is.
But, at the same time,
like, I just don't know
what to believe.
I don't know what to trust.
- Yeah.
I hope you will accept that.
[upbeat music]
- How'd it go?
- Yeah. You know...
- Yeah.
- All right.
Well, look, I mean,
thank you for meeting us
and doing the right thing here.
- Nice to meet you.
- I wish you the best.
- Have a good one.
- Thank you.
- ♪ Just let it go ♪
- All right.
- That's over.
- That's over with.
But that's crazy
she got that message.
- I don't know.
I don't know what to believe.
- It could have been her
sending it to herself.
- That's what I'm saying.
'Cause, like...
- You know, you never know.
- I really--that's crazy.
- Seems like she would be
a cool girl
if she would just get
honest with herself.
- The good news is...
- It's done and over with.
- That's done.
You're free from the chains
of that relationship.
- Fresh start.
♪ ♪
- Hey.
- Yo.
- Oh wow, look at them fronts.
- That grill, son.
You look fresh.
- Thank you, thank you.
You guys look good too.
- Thanks.
- You guys look real good
and healthy,
you know what I'm saying.
- What's going on, man?
How are you?
- I'm actually doing good.
Just working and
staying positive.
- Have you talked to Patricia
since we filmed?
- I stay my distance
from everything.
I ain't got no time to be
trying to be friends
with somebody who's gonna fake
every other little story
about anything,
you know what I'm saying?
Been moving forward.
- I think the most important
question I have for you:
have you taken your sister,
Krystal,
to the Cheesecake Factory?
- Yes, I have, and...
- There we go.
- She loved it.
- The spinach dip
is my favorite.
- Whenever you guys come down
to Phoenix, let us know.
We'll all go
get some cheesecake.
- For sure. For sure.
All right, later, Joseph.
- Later.
- Hey.
- Patricia!
- Patricia.
You look beautiful.
- Thank you.
- So what's going on with you?
- I have a girlfriend.
- Ooh, hey!
- In real life?
- Yeah.
- How long have you guys
been dating?
- Wow.
So the experience seems like it
brought
a lot of perspective to you.
- Right. Right.
- Well that's exciting.
I'm happy to hear that.
So hopefully means
you don't have any time
for fake profiles.
- Right. Took them down.
No longer doing them.
- Good.
- Nice. I encourage you to be
as honest with yourself
and the people close to you
as you can be.
But it sounds like you're doing
great--I'm happy for you.
- Thank you.
both: Bye.
- Bye.
- Akirra's boyfriend, William,
needs to discover the truth
about who Jamie is.
- Did you love her?
- Yeah, I loved her.
- This is your
transaction history.
Are you [bleep] kidding me?
This is a lot of money.
- Akirra's upset.
- You okay?
- Bro, just get out of
my [bleep] face. Just go.
- I think I see her.
Jamie?
- Oh my [bleep] God.
1057
00:41:34.
Joseph meets this girl Sabrina
on Facebook.
- "This is the girl.
"This is the one that
you actually need
to settle down with."
- Wait. Her daughter died?
- What?
- This is wild as [bleep].
- Yeah.
- Homie is getting played.
- That's her right there.
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- "I need your help."
"Help."
For almost a decade,
"Catfish" has brought
desperate hopefuls
the answers they deserve.
- Thank you guys so much
for bringing us together.
- This time around, though,
we flipped the script.
Now I'm heading out
with my cohost, Kamie.
- Who's ready to go fishing?
- We're helping people
who need us the most.
Let's do it.
Only they have no idea.
- She doesn't know
I reached out to you guys.
- Oh, my goodness.
- This season,
we're being tipped off
by friends...
- I care about him a lot.
- Family...
- My brother's really
in love with her.
- And even anonymous sources.
Whoa.
- What?
- This is from
the whistle-blower.
Ride-or-dies
who will not sit back
while their loved ones
get played.
- ♪ Come on and catch me now ♪
- Why can't we meet?
- Homey is getting played.
So many layers.
- 'Cause even when
you don't know it...
Chill, chill, chill.
- [bleep] him, man.
- Take a second.
- [exhales]
- "Catfish" has your back.
[dramatic musical sting]
I wanted to say
I love your hair.
- Thank you.
- What's involved
in getting it...
- Oh, God.
Where do you want to start?
Having natural hair,
your hair will look different
every single day.
If there is an ounce more
of humidity in the air,
my air responds.
- Let's see what happens
to your hair
when I read this email.
- [mimics explosion]
[laughs]
- "He doesn't see it.
"Hey, Nev and Kamie.
"My name is Krystal.
"I'm writing
because I'm worried
"that my big brother Joseph
is being catfished.
"For the past eight months,
"my brother has been talking
to this girl Sabrina.
"Really beautiful,
"and my brother has gone
all in on her.
- ♪ Having you
is my only religion ♪
- She makes him laugh and makes
him into a total mush ball,
which is really funny to me.
- ♪ Being with you
is an easy decision ♪
- But they've never
video chatted.
My brother not asking someone
to video chat is not surprising
'cause he's an idiot.
- [giggles]
- But it turns out this girl
hasn't ever asked him
to video chat.
- ♪ 'Cause I'm ecstatic,
baby ♪
- "I'm sorry, but that's
just not possible.
"What 19-year-old girl
is like, 'Oh, yeah,
let's talk for eight months
without me seeing you'?"
- Facts.
- ♪ When I'm with you ♪
- "Oh, and speaking of her
being 19,
"my brother
only just found that out.
"Apparently, she told him
she was older,
"and someone else
spilled the beans.
"If she's lying about that,
what else is she lying about?
- ♪ And there ain't nothin'
that I can do ♪
♪ My love for her is true ♪
- "Being a good sister,
"I went and took a closer
look at her profile.
Guys, it's not good."
- [laughs]
- "She doesn't look 19,
and nobody in the comments
seems to know her."
- This is a good sister.
- This is great.
"My brother's a great guy,
and he deserves
"good things in his life.
"Please help him
"before he wastes more
of his time
"on this person.
Thank you, Krystal."
♪ ♪
- I like Krystal.
Good sibling.
- Let's find out more
about this Sabrina.
[computer chiming]
- Krystal.
- Hey.
- Hello.
- What's up?
- Hi. How are you?
I can't believe it's you guys.
- Tell us about yourself.
- So I'm basically, like,
just a 22-year old.
I'll be going back to school
soon to be an aesthetician.
- Cool.
- Okay.
- And I have a brother.
- Joseph is your brother.
- Yes.
- And how old is Joseph?
- 26.
- So, okay, we read your email.
- Yeah.
- Tell us the whole story.
- He's been talking
to Sabrina for,
he told me,
six to eight months.
They're really on the phone
all day, every day.
He seems to be pretty
in love with her, I guess.
But they've never
FaceTimed ever,
and they talked
about him moving to her,
where she lives,
and living with her.
- Is she--how do I say this?
Is she, like...
- A thirst trap?
- Right.
- Definitely, it looks like it
in her pictures.
- So where is Joseph right now?
- Actually, at work,
but I could pull him in
real quick.
- Patch him in, sis.
[computer chimes]
- Hey.
- Hey.
- Oh [bleep].
- Welcome to "Catfish."
- So can you kind of just
fill us all in
a little bit more
about Sabrina
and how you met
and, like, what her deal is?
- I met Sabrina
4 1/2 years ago.
- Whoa.
- During that time,
we were just being friends
and talking.
But we re-connected,
and it's been about, like,
a year and a half nonstop
talking in our relationship.
She's real pretty.
She's outgoing.
She's very open-minded.
- You guys say
that you love each other?
- Yeah, we say
we love each other.
I've been around
other females,
but like, the energy of love
is different with her.
- And how old is she today?
'Cause we heard it's changed.[laughs]
- I thought she
was around my age,
but recently I found out
that she's, like, 19.
- Who told you?
- Oh...
well, see, this
is what happened, is...
- Oh, God.
What happened was...
- I kind of got caught
talking to her cousin,
and then they told me
that her real age was 19.
- Well...
- Joseph.
- Got it....aha.
- Bro.
- She--she was furious
about that, you know?
- But you're in love
with Sabrina.
- Yes. A lot.
- Your sister thinks
you need some help
finally meeting this girl.
- I'd like to find out
who's on the other side
of that screen.
- That's my big brother,
and I look up to him,
and I don't want him
to end up hurt
and this person not
be who they say they are.
- Then we're definitely
down to help out.
We can fly to Phoenix.
- I'd rather fly out to you
and keep the family
out the business
and keep her out the business.
- I know. All right.
So you want to come to LA?
That's fine with us.
- Yes. Yeah, yeah.
- I mean, we'll arrange
for you to fly out to LA.
We'll meet up with you tomorrow
and then figure out
what the next step is.
- Hopefully, she's real.
You know what I'm saying?
And if she's not,
I'll take you to dinner,
okay, Krystal?
- Cheesecake Factory.
- Oh, my God.
I love Cheesecake Factory.
- Okay, so it's a deal.
All right.
- Have a good day.
- See you soon.
- Bye, guys.
Wow. Where are you leaning?
What is your hair telling you?
- When I see the photos,
my hair will know.
- ♪ I got a new craving ♪
♪ Driving me crazy ♪
- Our guy has landed
at the airport.
All right.
Keep your eyes open.
- ♪ Hey, hey, hey ♪
- Oh, I see him.
Wow, he travels light.
What's up, Joseph?
- Hello. Hello.
Nice to meet you, brother man.
- You too.
Jump in.
How you doing?
- It's crazy.
My little sister, man.
- Has she ever done
something like this before?
- No.
- Well, here we are.
[upbeat music]
- We got you in a suite.
both: The Grammy suite.
- Wow.
- Oh, wow, Okay.
- Oh my goodness.
We could have a party here.
- This is a nice spot.
- Well look, give us
the whole story
from, you know, day one.
- I met Sabrina on Facebook.
I liked her eyes, and she
had that smile, you know?
I was like, "Yo." I was like,
"What's good with it?"
And it was like, all right,
we conversate
for, like, a few months.
- Had you exchanged
phone numbers at this point?
- No, no.
We never exchanged numbers.
- Okay, so it was just
Facebook.
- It was just Facebook
at the time.
Then, like, we lost contact
for, like, two years.
- Wow. Did you end up getting
into other relationships?
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I would talk
to other females.
- Okay, but then, somehow,
Sabrina came
back into your life.
- Yeah, yeah.
Boom, Sabrina popped up,
like nothing ever happened.
And that's how
we started talking again.
- And you're talking
on the phone now.
- Yeah, yeah.
We exchanged numbers.
Sending each other pictures
and all that.
She real goofy with [bleep]
and then, like,
she's real smart on [bleep].
I know she stays with a smile
when she talks to me.
Same with me.
We started talking
for days and weeks,
and weeks turned to months,
then months into a year.
And I'm like,
"Bro, like, that's crazy."
But during all that,
I got a message one time
from a random girl
and, like, she was like,
"I'm so into you,"
this and that.
So I was like, "Cool."
I was like, "Okay."
So I started messaging her.
A couple days later, I find out
that girl was Sabrina's cousin.
- Isn't that weird?
- Yeah. Kind of blew my mind.
I was like,
"You all know each other?"
- That's how you found out
that they were family?
- Yeah, that's how I found out
they was family.
- Oh, okay. Whoa.
- So she sent those messages
and I was like, "What?"
Me and Sabrina
got into an argument.
- Did she think you were also
messing around
with other girls,
too, potentially?
- Right. Potentially.
- And were you?
- Were you?
- I was, probably.
- Joseph.
- That's when I found out
that Sabrina was 19.
Her cousin was like, "I don't
know why you're with her.
"She's 19 years old.
You need to be
with someone older."
So, from there, like,
I tried to cut ties
with each
and every one of them.
But Sabrina didn't
want to go.
She stuck around,
and I was like,
"You must really,
really be into me."
So I really committed myself
to Sabrina.
"This is the girl."
I was like, "This is the one
that you actually need
to settle down with."
Stopped a lot of [bleep]for her.
Stopped messing around
and, like, just started
focusing on her
and just trying
to build something different.
- Sounds like you're
finally at a point
where you're genuinely
committed to Sabrina,
more so than you've
ever been to any girl.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Honestly, yeah.
- I mean, I gotta--I want
to see this girl.
- I want to see her. Yeah.
- This is Sabrina.
- Sabrina. She's cute.
- She's definitely
very attractive.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- That woman is not
19 years old.
She's definitely older.
- That's what's weird too.
This whole time I thought
she was older than me.
- Can I just see your...
- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- Your messages?
Wow, you really do text a lot.
"Everything all right, love?"
What's this about a grave?
- She asked to get any ideas
for, like, how to raise money.
- Did she ask you
for money or...
- No.
She's just saying how much.
- But you've never
sent her money.
- No, not really.
Just sent her
some food money once.
- So yes--the answer
is "Yes, I did send money."
- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- How much was the food?
- 20 bucks.
I only sent her 20 bucks.
- How many times?
- Like two times.
- She asked for the money,
though?
- Yeah, yeah. She was like,
"I'm just hungry."
Well, 'cause her apartment
caught on fire, and like...
- [scoffing]
- [groans]
- So I was like--
well, I was like--
bro, I was like--I was like,
"Bro, go eat something, yo."
- [groaning] Oh, God.
- Tragic loss.
Apartment's on fire.
Oh my God.
- Well, look, there's a lot
of stuff involved here.
- Yeah.
- Whatever you have,
try to put it all
in one email to us.
- Cool, cool. Got you.
- Okay.
- I appreciate you, man.
- Hasta manana.
- Talk to you later.
- Oh, boy.
I really like Joseph.
- He seems cool.
But homey is getting played,
because he's been playing
others for a very long time.
- Right, but then finally
feels like he's ready
to get serious about a girl,
and if it turns out
Sabrina's lying to him,
it's gonna really suck for him.
- I don't think he's a bad guy,
but karma is coming for him,
and it is coming hard.
[upbeat music]
- Thank you.
Let's get down to business.
- All right.
Recap.
So four years ago,
Joseph meets this girl Sabrina
on Facebook.
They become friends.
And then, for whatever reason,
they stop talking.
Then Sabrina shows back up.
They are now boyfriend
and girlfriend.
- I'm going with
"Sabrina's a catfish."
- And she just likes
messy, fun internet drama.
- Yeah, why not?
- All right, well, let's begin.
We've got Sabrina's Facebook.
We have her address in Denver.
"I attached three pictures
she sent me the last few weeks.
"I hope Sabrina is
who she says she is,
"and we can move past
everything to build
our future lives together."
All right.
He knows her on Facebook,
so let's just check out
her Facebook.
- Sabrina Gomez.
- So here's one of her
profile pictures,
it's got 150 likes.
- She's beautiful.
- Yeah, she's very pretty.
And there's a picture of her
with a small young lady.
- "You have a gorgeous
daughter," Armando says.
So she has a kid.
He never mentioned
her having a child.
What the [bleep]?
Is that, like,
not an important detail?
What about the child?
Why would he not tell us that?
- I don't know how to explain.
We'll have to ask him about it.
Oh, here's a picture of her
with her daughter.
"I miss you so much, baby."
Wait.
♪ ♪
Did...her kid die?
♪ ♪
Oh, man.
Is her story that she
had a daughter who died?
Yeah.
- "Eileen, I miss you so much."
- It was May of last year.
Oh, here we go.
Wow, there's like a--
there's a couple videos here.
- "Rest in peace, Eileen."
♪ ♪
- So her daughter died?
"I love you so much.
"I think about you
every single day.
"You're no longer
in pain or hurt.
Give mommy the strength, baby."
Jeez. How would Joseph
not have mentioned that?
- That would be a very
prominent aspect
of her life story.
But this page doesn't even--
we don't even know
if this is a real page
or not, at this point.
- Right.
I take we need to photo search
some of these pictures.
Let's see if these come up.
♪ ♪
No. Hmm.
♪ ♪
No.
No hits.
both: Oh!
- Sabrina.
- What?
- So who is this?
Sabrina [bleep].
Different last name. She's 26.
Look, pictures
with her daughter.
This was six days ago.
Eileen alive.
A daughter alive.
Right, so clearly,
her daughter is not dead.
- Eileen. She's alive.
- Okay.
- But is this another
fake page?
- Possibly.
Would be weird if it was run
by the same person
who's running the Facebook,
because on the Facebook,
Eileen is dead.
- Yeah.
- On this page,
Eileen's very much alive.
- Yes.
This one feels more real.
- What does that say?
That says Eileen Mondia.
♪ ♪
Mm!
You want me to enhance?
♪ ♪
- Honor roll thing.
- Right.
- But it has
the principal's name.
- That's true.
- So we can look up
the principal's name...
- Jennifer...
- And find the school.
- [bleep].
Let's do a Google search
for Jennifer [bleep] principal.
♪ ♪
[bleep] Christian Schools,
which is in Los Angeles.
So even if this isn't
the real profile,
there's evidence on this one
the girl in the pictures...
- Mm-hmm.
- And her daughter...
- Live in California.
- Live in California.
- And if we can find out what
school the kid goes to,
anybody else
can figure it out too.
That could be a serious
security issue
for this person
and her daughter.
- That's true.
Let's call the school.
[line ringing]
- [whispers] Jennifer.
- Oh, hi.
I am making a TV show
that you may have heard of
called "Catfish."
- Well, we believe
that one of your students,
Eileen Mondia,
and her mother--
looks like someone's
using photos
of her and her daughter
to create fake profiles.
Our concern is this person
is lying to guys.
Obviously, that puts
one of your students at risk.
- So we'd like to let
her mother know that,
because, obviously,
we're concerned.
- Right. Great.
Thanks so much.
- All right, bye.
Okay.
- You did the right thing.
- All right, so let's
send an email.
- "Eileen Mondia in danger."
I feel like
we're making headway.
- All right, great.
All right, so what
do we have here?
- A whole bunch of
bull[bleep].
- I think it's pretty clear now
that the real woman
in the photos
lives in Los Angeles,
and it does sound
like the woman behind all this
is lying about having
a daughter who is now deceased.
- I can't believe
that he did not tell us that.
I have multiple questions
to ask Joseph,
and I need answers
to all of them.
[line ringing]
- Yes, Joseph.
- Joseph...
- How are you?
- You have some
'splaining to do.
- Where are you?
- Oh, yeah? All right.
We found some
very interesting information
that we want to share
with you.
Stay where you are.
We'll come get you.
- All right. See you soon.
- Let's see
what's good with it.
- Let's check it out.
- Hey.
- How you doing today?
- What's up, man?
- Norman.
- Kamie. Nice to meet you.
- Kamie.
- This is not a typical museum.
- Oh, my God.
Look at this place.
- This car is one of the pride
and joys of the museum.
It was found in a barn.
- Imagine trying to park
that thing.
- Cool.
- Wow.
- So pretty.
- This one is a piece
of American history.
Ford GT40.
- That thing is cool.
- Jump in.
- Really? Whee!
[horn honks]
- This has been great.
- Okay.
- Thank you so much.
- Thanks so much, Norman.
- Yes.
- All right.
What do you
think of the Peterson?
- It was pretty--it
was pretty cool.
- What was your favorite?
- The Batman car.
The 1989.
- '89 era.
- Yeah.
- The best.
- It was cool.
- It is.
- All right, let's dive in.
'Cause we want to get
your take on all this.
- Cool, cool.
- So we started
on her Facebook page.
We scrolled through
some of her photos.
I think--I don't know
if it's in this...
- Oh, and there's this.
- Sabrina has a daughter?
You never mentioned that.
- Yeah, I didn't mention it
because, like,
it's personal with her,
you know what I'm saying?
She would break down and cry
once in every while,
and she was like, "I miss her,"
and go crazy, bananas.
- Whoa.
- Did she say what happened?
- What I was told is the child
was with the father
and she ran outside and--
- And, like, got hit
by a car or something?
- Something like that. Yeah.
- Yeah. I mean, it's horrible.
Like, the story
that's she's telling you
about how her daughter died
is horrible.
- It is, you know.
- I understand you not
mentioning it
because you thought
it's a personal thing.
- Touchy subject.
- Yeah, it is.
- Fine, but then this is where
things got really interesting.
We did a Google search
for one of the pictures
and it brought us
to an Instagram account
for someone named
Sabrina [bleep].
Different last name.
- You've never seen
this account.
- No.
- But look.
Very recently,
a picture of her daughter.
Very much alive.
- ♪ I got eyes
in the walls ♪
♪ And they know
what we did...♪
- That's [bleep].
That's [bleep].
This is like [bleep]
my whole inside up.
- ♪ I can't hide...♪
- That [bleep] [bleep] wild.
- Yeah.
- Super intense.
- Right. Is she using the death
of this imaginary daughter
to make people feel bad for her
and then potentially
get them to do things?
- I feel like you need
to take a deep breath.
- Hell yeah.
- So now, I'm wondering,
because of the fact
that she has been able
to manipulate you.
You said
you've only given her--
- Food money and [bleep].
And nail money too.
- Wait, so what--so what else
have you sent her money for?
- I only sent her money
to clean the headstone.
- Clean a headstone?
Hold on.
I think you guys seen
that message, when--
- No.
- No.
- I thought that was
a different friend
who had passed.
- Oh, I--
- No.
- Wait, so she said,
"I need some money
to help clean the headstone
of my dead daughter."
- I never tried to bring up
that situation
about her or her daughter,
and I just left it at that,
thinking that her daughter
was deceased.
- Well, and I don't blame you.
She posted a whole video
with an "R.I.P"
and "I'm so sad,
I miss you so much," I mean...
- That's crazy.
- Look, half of the story...
[phone chiming]
Who's this?
Hello.
- Hi.
- [whispering] Oh!
It's her!
- Yeah, hi.
Sabrina, this is Nev
from "Catfish."
- Is there any chance
you could FaceTime, or...
- All right, yeah.
Find a safe spot to pull over.
Hi.
- Hi.
- So we're helping a young guy
from Phoenix who,
for a while now,
has been in a relationship
with a girl named Sabrina.
She uses your pictures
and your name.
She even uses photos
of your daughter
and said that
your daughter was deceased.
- Wow.
- Obviously,
contacting
your kid's school is,
like--if I was a mom,
I would be like...
- "Who's calling?"
- Yes!
- Well, that's what we wanted,
to make sure that's she's not.
- Right. Wow.
- So this is Joseph.
- Yo, how you doing?
- Hi.
- Hello.
- And I know this is awkward,
but I just want to confirm
that you guys
have not been communicating.
- No.
- Yeah. No, it's all good.[bleep].
- So do you guys have
any idea who it is?
- No.
- No, we actually thought
maybe you might have some idea.
- No idea.
Let's see who it is.
Let's get to the bottom
of it.
- Yeah, yeah.
Well, if we figure
anything out,
of course we'll let you know.
- Okay.
- All right.
Thank you so much, Sabrina.
- Bye.
- Bye, guys.
- All right, bye.
- Bye. Sorry.
- It's cool.
- I know, I'm sorry.
- Now, we need to decide
what we want to do.
So the most direct path to
the truth is to just call her.
- I want to get to
the bottom.
Like, they shouldn't be
doing that [bleep].
- Right.
- You know what I'm saying?
Like, that's crazy.
- I'm gonna go call her.
I'll see what she says.
All right? I'll right back.
- The thing
that I'm most upset about
is the fact
that we can't figure--
- The child.
- Well, yeah, that, obviously.
- That just makes me mad.
Like, that--
- It's disgusting.
- You lied about a child.
Like, that's crazy.
[line ringing]
- Yes, hi, is this Sabrina?
- Hey, I am a friend of Joseph,
your boyfriend.
We're making an episode
of my TV show, "Catfish."
Are you familiar with the show?
- So he now knows
that you're not the girl
in the pictures
that he's been looking at,
and also that the daughter--
- But why do you think that?
I mean...
[hang up beeping]
- I ruined everything?
All right,
well, I spoke to her.
I was like, "Look, we do know
that Sabrina's this person
and that's not you."
And she got upset, was like,
"You ruined everything."
And then she hung up.
- Bitch, what?
We ruined everything?
- Well, it actually
gave me the sense
that she really does like you
and care about you.
- But who the hellare you?
- Now that you know
she's lying,
she just assumes, like,
you're never gonna love her
and then it's over.
But I get the sense that you
do still want to meet her.
- Yeah, I do.
- So I think you should
text her and advocate
on your own behalf,
and say, like, "Look..."
- "I still want to meet you."
- "I really"--yeah.
Or whatever--however
you would say it.
You have a real
poetic elegance
that I don't want to
infringe upon.
- Don't go off on her, though.
- I won't.
- No, just make it--right.
- You've got to try to
reel her in so we get
the catfish.
- Yeah, you've got
to smooth talk.
- Gotcha.
That's--that's--
that's crazy, man.
- Did you send it?
- Yeah, yeah.
- What'd you say?
- You send a message that fast?
- Yeah, yeah.
both: What'd you say?
- I said call me.
I said, "Call me, shawty."
I said, "Call me, shawty.
What you doing?"
you said do it how I do it.
That's how I do it.
- Oh, my God...
- I just feel like she's not--
[phone chimes]
She's emotional right now.
Oh, what'd she say?
She wrote back?
- Yeah, she just messaged me.
- It worked.
- This is very fast.
- She's like, "I can't really
talk to you right now."
- Okay, so she's emotional.
So that's why we're saying,
give her
something to think about.
Oh, whoa, she just wrote,
"Stop playing.
"I really love you
and I've put up with more
than any other woman would."
So let me just--let me just--
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do that, do that.
- "Look, I know [bleep]
right now is crazy.
"Doesn't change what we have.
"Our friendship
means a lot to me.
I would like to meet you.
I'm ready to come to Denver."
- Oh, bro, this is crazy.
This is too insane.
My palm's sweaty and my heart
pounding like crazy.
[phone chimes]
- She wrote,
"Do you really love me?"
[suspenseful music]
- [bleep] I have love for her,
you know what I'm saying?
I do. But, like, this is
just like [bleep] insane.
- Just say, "I'm willing to
come and see you, aren't I?"
- "I'm down to fly across
the country to see you."
- She said, "When?"
- Right now.
- Tomorrow a.m.
- Tomorrow.
- Oh, she said, "I don't know
where I'll be tomorrow.
I'll let you know where
to meet me when you get here."
All right, so that's...good.
That's, like,
basically and invite.
- Yep.
- "Okay, that works."
All right.
We got a date.
- We got a date.
- With mystery lady.
- Oh [bleep].
- First thing tomorrow,
we're gonna get on a plane.
- Bright and early.
- Will do.
- See you in the morning.
Let's get out of here.
- How's it going?
- Good morning.
Good morning to you.
- Literally the top
of the morning.
- The top of the morning.
- She texted you back.
- All right.
That's--that's promising.
- ♪ The skies'll never
let you go ♪
♪ It's all you've been
looking for ♪
- There it is.
- ♪ And the minute ♪
♪ That you have to go...♪
- A little bit closer
to the truth.
Closer and closer.
[phone chimes]
Oh, you got a message?
- Yes.
"You can meet me at...
- "West Ford Ave."
both: in Denver."
- Okay.
[phone tune]
Who's that?
- Oh, that's my little sister.
Hey, what's up?
- On my way to find out
what's really going on.
- we're on our way right now
to meet the real girl,
but we did find out she's not
the girl in the pictures.
- So he does owe you
Cheesecake Factory.
- So I owe you
Cheesecake Factory.
- All right, cool.
Well, I'm going check up
with you when we're done.
- Thanks, Krystal.
- All right, thank you.
My emotions are up and down
and, like, my thoughts
are, like, spinning.
Just like, "Why are you playing
with my kindness?"
- I think you should just
go on ahead and assume
that everything that
she's ever told you is a lie.
- True.
- This is the park.
- I don't see anybody.
- That is weird.
What if that's her
right there?
- Where?
- Between these trees?
- There is someone right there.
- Why is she hiding creepily
in the trees?
[suspenseful music]
- Let's see if we can get
a closer look.
- [gasps] Oh!
- Is that her?
Should we go check it out?
Okay.
♪ ♪
Oh, now she's walking away.
- What? Oh no.
- Maybe she's nervous.
Come on.
I think that's her.
- Uh, 'scuse me.
- Hello, ma'am?
Hello?
- This is all you.
- All right, I got this.
Hello?
- This is all you.
- All right, I got this.
[suspenseful music]
Hello?
♪ ♪
You know me?
Hmm?
What's your name?
- Patricia.
- Patricia.
Cool.
So...
Why all this?
- Um...
It was never, like,
with malicious intent.
It never was.
- But you still played with
emotions and [bleep].
- I mean, I can't force you
to believe it,
but the feelings
really weren't a lie.
[tense music]
- Is that he only profile that
you ever made in your life?
- Yep, and for you
to believe it--
Like I said,
I'm not gonna force you to.
- But, like,
why'd you let
a child into the situation
that wasn't even real?
I just want to know,
why would--why'd you do that?
- I did lose a kid myself.
Little girl.
- So that's real?
- That's real.
I need a minute.
I need a minute.
- Cool.
Take a minute.
- Hey, sorry. We didn't--
I didn't--we wanted
to let you guys talk,
but I don't want you to leave
before I get to say hello.
- Hi.
- What's your name?
I'm sorry?
- Patricia.
- Patricia. This is Kamie.
- Hi.
- I'm Nev.
I understand this is emotional.
It's a lot.
- Yeah.
- But don't walk away
for a minute.
So, Patricia...
- Yes.
You're from Denver.
- I am. Mm-hmm.
- Okay, and how old are you?
- I'm 20.
- You're 20.
- Yes.
- So you--okay.
And when did you
start the Sabrina profile?
- Four years ago.
- Okay, so around the time
that you met him
was when you first
created the page.
- Right.
- Was there a reason
initially, or--
- I've always been, like,
a bigger girl,
so I've been bullied
all the way from the time
I entered school
till almost till I got out.
So I was, like, a sophomore.
And then there was this guy,
and he's like, "Hey, I think
you're really beautiful."
And he had a plan for us
to go to the movies.
And I was waiting
and waiting and waiting,
and I finally get
a text from him.
And he's like,
"Hey, this was a joke.
It was a prank.
It was a bet."
So that kind of
just destroyed me.
I was like, "Why am I someone's
laughingstock," you know?
That put me in a dark place.
I just wanted to be called,
like, pretty.
So that's, then,
when I had made that page.
- I mean, I totally understand
initially doing it
just to kind of get
some positive feedback.
But, at some point,
did it become clear to you
that you could use the profile
to lure men in
and then kind of get them
to possibly do things?
- No. I'm not
that type of person.
- But, at some point,
you started asking for money.
- I never asked for money.
- Food and getting
your nails done.
- He told us that he did
send you some stuff.
- Yeah.- Right?
- Okay, I understand that.
- Yeah, for food.
- You did.
- You just like used
my kindness and [bleep].
- I just don't know
what to say.
- What about the cousin?
- Do you have
other fake profiles?
- I just had those two.
- Wait, so the Sabrina one
and the cousin?
- Mm-hmm.
- So that's fake?
- Right.
- That was a fake
profile as well?
- So that was you.
- Right.
I friend requested him
because he was messaging,
flirting with other friends,
and there was other females on
Instagram he was flirting with.
So I kind of needed
to catch him in the act.
- Hard for you to justify...
- Right.
- As someone who's been
lying to him.
- The whole time.
- It's a tough sort
of case to make.
- Right.
- What I ever do to you
for you
to impersonate and come back
as someone fake
and [bleep] with my feelings?
- Actually, let me just
start off by saying
I had a daughter
April '15--2015.
So I had her,
and she was just not developed.
- She was premature.
- Right.
So we were sitting
in the hospital,
so I made Sabrina's page,
because I was sitting there
kind of, like, bored
and hoping my daughter would,
you know, make a recovery.
So that gave me
something to do.
- So wait a second.
So you started the profile
while
you were in the hospital...
- Right.
- With your daughter.
- Yes. Yeah.
- But you just told us
a different version
of the story.
- So I had just went through
this guy, like,
making me his laughingstock,
and I was in the hospital
with my daughter,
[tearfully] trying to see
if she has a fighting chance.
So we were in the hospital
until December,
and they unhooked her
from NICU.
She didn't live
past three hours.
So that was, like,
where it was getting deeper,
'Cause that's my child,
you know?
[uneasy music]
♪ ♪
- Obviously, like,
it's impossible
not to feel for you.
We all feel for you.
But if this story is true,
and you're someone who has had
a daughter who passed,
how can you fathom
creating that scenario
for another woman
and her child?
- I'm not making
a pity story.
Like, all I can say
is I'm sorry.
All the "I love you,"
that wasn't fake.
- I'm kind of done for the day.
- All right.
All right.
Well, look, this is a big deal.
Would you be willing to meet us
tomorrow and see what we can--
- Come up tomorrow?
- Yeah.
- Okay.
- We'll speak to you soon.
- That was a lot.
- That was intense.
- You can't help
but to feel for her,
because she's obviously been
through a lot of [bleep]
for someone
who's only 20 years old.
- True.
- But, at the same time,
it's hard to know how much
of her story to believe.
- Her story, you know, is lies.
I just feel like
it's a messed up story,
what happened with her
daughter and stuff,
but, like,
considering the lies,
and how do we know
that she wasn't just using that
to get what she wants?
- And it sounded like,
when you were over here
with her, she said
she only had the one profile.
- Yeah.
- But then slowly,
it came out about
the second one.
That makes me wonder, like,
is she being completely honest?
- Right. I feel like
everything's a lie.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
It's like, who's the real you?
[knocking on door]
- Yep.
- Good morning.
[giggling]
- Check this out--I found
Patricia's real Facebook page.
She's a real person.
She's got a real Facebook.
- Did you notice anything
about her mentioning a baby?
- I don't know, I don't see
anything but Let's scroll down.
Doesn't look like 2015
was a year spent
in the hospital with a sick kid
who then passed away.
Look, I can't be the one
to second-guess whether or not
she really did have a premature
child who then passed away
or if she told us
to elicit sympathy.
- Yeah.
- I'm not gonna press her
on that.
- It's a touchy thing.
I would hope that she wouldn't
make something like that up.
[knock on door]
- Right.
- Good morning.
- Good morning, good morning.
- How you feeling
about everything?
- Kind of concerned about a lot
because it's lie after lie,
and, like, who knows what lie
is true and what lie isn't.
- Right.
- How am I supposed to trust
what you say?
- Right, I mean,
we just scrolled through her
Facebook back into 2015,
and she looks pretty happy.
There's no mention
of any great loss or tragedy.
- It's hard to not believe
what she's saying.
- But it's also hard
to believe her.
Until she's honest with us
and herself,
there's only so much we can
really get through to her.
All right, let's message her.
Okay, we can meet
at a place called Neighbors.
- I felt like a lot of stuff
is just, like, a lot of lies.
Really don't know
what to believe.
[tense music]
Good afternoon.
- Hey.
- Hey.
- Here, have a seat here.
Hello again.
How are you feeling?
- Actually, a got a text
message last night
saying some nasty things.
Do you mind if I--
- "You're a [bleep] disgusting
bitch for catfishing.
"Don't let me find out
where you live
because you'll be done for, ho.
[bleep] pig. [bleep]."
- What the [bleep]?
- How did this person
get your number?
- That's what I'm trying
to ask you.
It's a Phoenix number.
I don't know
if it was maybe you.
- You thought that text
could have come from...
- Yeah.
- Joseph?
- Yeah.
Him or, like,
somebody he has told.
- No, I haven't told anybody,
except my little sister.
Everybody thinks I'm at work.
- That's true.
How would they know?
- Yeah.
- How would they know
it was you?
- I don't know.
- I find that [bleep] strange
as [bleep], though,
'cause, like...
- So do I.
- Can't you see who texted you?
What's the number?
- It's...
- 'Cause we can Spokeo it.
What's the area code
of the number?
- 408. Phoenix.
- That's not a Phoenix number.
You probably thought
it was a 480 number,
'cause 480 is a Phoenix number.
- Okay, yeah, so that's why
I kind of connected it to him.
- But if it's a text app
number,
then you can create
any area code you want.
- Yeah, that's [bleep].
That's not--definitely not me.
- Well, why don't we give you
guys a minute to talk,
and then we can all said
good-bye for now.
- Okay.
What I would want,
going forward,
is at least a friendship,
but, you know,
that's entirely up to you,
'cause you had to go
through it.
And I respect your decisions.
There is.
But, at the same time,
like, I just don't know
what to believe.
I don't know what to trust.
- Yeah.
I hope you will accept that.
[upbeat music]
- How'd it go?
- Yeah. You know...
- Yeah.
- All right.
Well, look, I mean,
thank you for meeting us
and doing the right thing here.
- Nice to meet you.
- I wish you the best.
- Have a good one.
- Thank you.
- ♪ Just let it go ♪
- All right.
- That's over.
- That's over with.
But that's crazy
she got that message.
- I don't know.
I don't know what to believe.
- It could have been her
sending it to herself.
- That's what I'm saying.
'Cause, like...
- You know, you never know.
- I really--that's crazy.
- Seems like she would be
a cool girl
if she would just get
honest with herself.
- The good news is...
- It's done and over with.
- That's done.
You're free from the chains
of that relationship.
- Fresh start.
♪ ♪
- Hey.
- Yo.
- Oh wow, look at them fronts.
- That grill, son.
You look fresh.
- Thank you, thank you.
You guys look good too.
- Thanks.
- You guys look real good
and healthy,
you know what I'm saying.
- What's going on, man?
How are you?
- I'm actually doing good.
Just working and
staying positive.
- Have you talked to Patricia
since we filmed?
- I stay my distance
from everything.
I ain't got no time to be
trying to be friends
with somebody who's gonna fake
every other little story
about anything,
you know what I'm saying?
Been moving forward.
- I think the most important
question I have for you:
have you taken your sister,
Krystal,
to the Cheesecake Factory?
- Yes, I have, and...
- There we go.
- She loved it.
- The spinach dip
is my favorite.
- Whenever you guys come down
to Phoenix, let us know.
We'll all go
get some cheesecake.
- For sure. For sure.
All right, later, Joseph.
- Later.
- Hey.
- Patricia!
- Patricia.
You look beautiful.
- Thank you.
- So what's going on with you?
- I have a girlfriend.
- Ooh, hey!
- In real life?
- Yeah.
- How long have you guys
been dating?
- Wow.
So the experience seems like it
brought
a lot of perspective to you.
- Right. Right.
- Well that's exciting.
I'm happy to hear that.
So hopefully means
you don't have any time
for fake profiles.
- Right. Took them down.
No longer doing them.
- Good.
- Nice. I encourage you to be
as honest with yourself
and the people close to you
as you can be.
But it sounds like you're doing
great--I'm happy for you.
- Thank you.
both: Bye.
- Bye.
- Akirra's boyfriend, William,
needs to discover the truth
about who Jamie is.
- Did you love her?
- Yeah, I loved her.
- This is your
transaction history.
Are you [bleep] kidding me?
This is a lot of money.
- Akirra's upset.
- You okay?
- Bro, just get out of
my [bleep] face. Just go.
- I think I see her.
Jamie?
- Oh my [bleep] God.
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