Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 8, Episode 4 - Jesus & Alexis - full transcript
Nev and Kamie receive an anonymous email from a whistleblower reporting a catfishing, but when the hosts arrive to help the named victim, they uncover a deeper conspiracy of deception that only the secret informant can solve.
- Whoa, we've got
a whistle-blower.
"I tried to tell
this guy named Jesus
"to stop talking
to this girl, Nicole,
who I know is a catfish."
- We talk every day.
- I don't want
to see him get hurt.
- I don't know what
to think anymore.
- Whoa.
- What?
- This is
from the whistle-blower.
- I just want to get
to the bottom of this.
- There's nothing here.
- This seems unsafe.
Oh, my God.
- "I need your help."
"Help."
For almost a decade,
"Catfish" has brought
desperate hopefuls
the answers they deserve.
- Thank you guys so much
for bringing us together.
- This time around, though,
we flipped the script.
Now, I'm heading out
with my cohost, Kamie.
- Who's ready to go fishing?
- We're helping people
who need us the most.
Let's do it.
Only they have no idea.
- She doesn't know
I reached out to you guys.
- Oh, my goodness.
- This season,
we're being tipped off
by friends...
- I care about him a lot.
- Family...
- My brother's really
in love with her.
- And even anonymous sources.
Whoa.
- What?
- This is
from the whistle-blower.
Ride-or-dies
who will not sit back
while their loved ones
get played.
- ♪ Come on and catch me now ♪
- Why can't we meet?
- Homey is getting played.
- So many layers.
- 'Cause even when
you don't know it...
Chill, chill, chill.
- [bleep] him, man.
- Take a second.
- [exhales]
- "Catfish" has your back.
[dramatic musical sting]
- Happy birthday, Nev.
- Yeah, happy birthday.
- The crew got you a present.
- What is it?
- Is this a butt pillow?
Wow.
You nailed it.
Look at this.
A custom butt cushion.
- Wow, customized.
- This is nice.
- I know a few girls
who've got their butt done,
and they have that same pillow.
- [laughs]
- You can't sit
on your butt directly
for, like,
months afterwards.
[both laugh]
- Let's dive
into the old email.
Uh-oh.
We got an email here
from an anonymous sender.
- Mm.
- Whoever it is
goes by "Baby A."
- Oh, God.
- "Hey, Nev,
"I tried to tell this guy
in San Antonio
"to stop talking
to this girl, Nicole,
who I know is a catfish."
- ♪ Don't you worry,
I've got this on lock ♪
- "He thinks they 'bond'
over wrestling,
but it's all BS."
- ♪ Yes, I've learned
about myself a lot ♪
- "The guy who's getting fooled
"is named Jesus.
"Here's his Facebook
and phone number.
"I'm not sure
"which of the fake profiles
he's talking to.
But here's the profile
for the real girl, Nikki."
- ♪ Don't you get it twisted ♪
- Whoa, so we've got
a whistle-blower.
- What is going on?
Who is this?
- Very mysterious.
- Yeah.
- I mean, should we
just call Jesus?
We have his number.
I mean, let's just go
straight to the source.
[line trilling]
- Hi, is this Jesus?
- This is Nev from "Catfish."
Are you familiar
with that show?
- We got an email
from someone--
they didn't say their name--
who says they know
you're talking to a catfish
and that this person tried
to tell you that.
- Wait, you don't know
a Nicole?
Wait--
- ♪ Don't you
get it twisted ♪
- Wait, what?
Alexis?
Are you able to Skype
or video chat right now?
- I'll send you my Skype name.
Whenever you're ready,
just call me.
- Talk to you in a bit.
Bye.
- So wait.
We know Nicole is a catfish.
But who is Alexis?
There's too many names.
I'm very confused.
I need more information.
- We have to assume
that the text he got
was from the same person,
right?
- Right, yes.
- Oh, here we go.
[Skype call chiming]
All right.
This must be him.
both: Jesus!
- Hi.
- What's up?
- I'm Kamie, by the way.
- Hi.
- So wait, how old are you?
- I'm 21.
- Okay, you're 21,
you live in San Antonio.
Why did we get an email saying
that some random person thinks
you're getting catfished?
- I have no idea.
Like I said,
I don't know a Nicole.
I've been talking
to someone named Alexis.
- And how long
have you been talking?
- For almost a year.
- That's a good amount
of time.
- And how did you meet Alexis?
- I used to go
on this app called "MeetMe."
Alexis sent me
a friend request.
She told me,
"I'ma go live
if you want to join it."
It was, like, kind of dark,
but, like, it looked like her.
- Okay.
- She was just talking to me
and, like, other people.
And we just started talking
from there.
- What do you know about her?
- She lives in Austin.
She has a kid.
Her daughter, Alyssa,
is, like, three or four.
- How old is Alexis?
- I think she's 20.
- All right, so you guys
are about the same age.
- Me and her actually have
a lot of stuff in common.
We both like
watching wrestling,
like the same music.
We talk on the phone
every day.
I like her a lot.
I want to be with her.
- Do you guys say that
you love each other too?
Like, on the phone?
- Yeah.
- So why haven't you guys met?
'Cause San Antonio and Austin,
that's not that far.
- We tried meeting up
a couple times,
but she couldn't
'cause she had to take care
of her daughter.
- Hmm.
- What about, like, Facebook?
Instagram?
Does she have profiles?
- I don't have her
on none of that.
- Why not?
- I guess I never
bothered asking.
- Have you guys video chatted?
- I asked one time,
and her phone was broken.
[musical sting]
- The good old
"phone was broken."
- Have you and Alexis ever
exchanged any money or gifts?
- She asked me
for money two times,
but couldn't give it to her
'cause I didn't have none.
[tense music]
- Does anybody in your family
know about Alexis?
- Not really.
The only person that knows is,
like, my best friend, Star.
- Got it.
Look, we don't know
what's going on here,
but someone--
and we don't know who--
seems to think you are
getting catfished.
- I don't know.
I still think Alexis is
who she says she is.
- Do you want our help?
Do you need our help?
Or do you feel like you've
got things under control?
- I wanna find out
who this person is
who sent the text.
- Okay, so you're actually
more interested in
who the anonymous informant is
than you are--right.
- More so than who the girl
you're talking to is?
- Yeah, her.
She, like...
I wanna--
like, I wanna meet her.
I wanna finally get
to see her and everything.
- All right, well, look.
We can come down
to San Antonio.
We can hopefully
figure this out.
- I would really love that.
- All right.
Sit tight.
We'll see you soon, Jesus.
- Bye.
- Bye.
- Bye.
- I have a hunch.
- You think that
the informant is Alexis?
- Yes,
and her name is "Alexis."
This person's name is Baby A.
Baby A...
- Right.
- Baby Alexis.
- So we've got two things
we gotta figure out now...
- Is Alexis real?
And who is this
mystery informant?
We need to write back to her.
"Hey, wanted to get
some more information.
Please get back to me ASAP."
We can also reach out to Nikki,
who she says is the real girl
in the pictures.
"Hey Nikki.
Got a tip that someone's
using your photos."
Boom. That's sent.
All right.
Let's San Anton...
- San Antoni-go?
- Let's just go.
- [laughs]
- ♪ 'Cause I get what I want ♪
♪ And I want you now ♪
♪ Yeah, I get what I want ♪
- All right.
- We're in San Antonio.
- Man, this is...
we are out there.
- We are off the grid.
- It feels like
"True Detective" out here.
There he is.
- Oh, hey.
- Oh, my God.
They have chickens.
- Let's go get him.
both: Jesus.
- What's up, man?
- Hi.
- How are you doing?
- Good.
This is Star.
- You mentioned Star.
- Hi.
- Yes.
- Hi.
- Hi!
- Nice to meet you.
- It's good to meet you.
- Hi. Nice to meet you.
[kitten meows]
- There's so many fun things.
- All right, wait.
Let's meet these kittens.
- Jesus, none of the kittens
wanna play with me.
- How do I grab
a kitten around here?
We got a bunch
of scaredy-cats here.
Should we go in?
- We'll go in.
[upbeat music]
- So you guys are,
like, best friends?
- Since freshman year.
- Since freshman year.
- So you knew about Alexis
probably from when
he started talking to her.
- Mm-hmm.
- Yeah.
- So let's talk about
this mystery girl.
- Okay. I'm ready.
- An anonymous person
emailed us, and said,
"There's this guy in Texas.
"I think he's getting
catfished.
"I tried to help him,
but he won't listen to me.
"I'm not sure which of the
fake profiles he's talking to,
but here's the profile
for the real girl, Nikki."
Here's the Facebook page
that she sent us.
So this girl.
- What? That's not her!
- That does not look like her.
- Wait, what do you mean
that's not her?
- Show them the picture.
- All right.
[tense music]
This is Alexis.
- Yeah.
- Whoa, this is
a totally different girl.
♪ ♪
- Which one's real?
Which one's which?
- I don't know if any of them
are real at this point.
It's even more confusing.
Can we see that text you got
from the whistle-blower?
"Hey, I'm not trying
to upset you,
"but you should stop
talking to Nicole.
She's not who she says she is."
And then there's
a screen name.
- "Nickyshorty [bleep]."
- Do you know what that means?
- I don't know for what.
And, you know,
it was just a username.
- Right, right.
So is the person who emailed me
just, kind of,
got their story wrong?
- I don't know.
- 'Cause obviously
they named you.
- What the freak is going on?
- Well, look,
it's very possible
that the girl you're talking to
may not be the girl
in those photos.
- Yeah.
- But you hadn't
really even suspected
that anything weird
could be going on until...
- Until--
- Just now?
- Yeah.
- You guys have been talking,
like, consistently?
- We talk every day.
- Wow, that is a lot.
- If she's real, your end goal
would be to be with her?
- Yeah.
We talked a couple times
about what if we
get a place and everything.
- Like to put a ring on it,
be with her?
- Maybe, yeah.
- Whoa.
It's a serious romance.
- Yeah.
- Star, do you think
that she's good for him?
- If she is real.
I mean, she makes him happy.
When he talks about her
or he talks to her,
he, like, lights up.
To me, like,
that's what matters the most.
I care about him a lot,
and I've been there
with him through a lot.
- Mm-hmm.
Yeah, like, when I was younger,
I got taken away from my mom.
And I was in foster care.
Like, she would, like, hit me.
And, like, telling me
that I was a mistake
and I should--
I should've never been born.
[somber music]
- It sounds like
what you were dealing with
is something that no child
should have to go through ever.
I'm sorry that
that happened to you.
- It's okay.
Now I'm here
and I'm--I'm doing way better.
I'm losing weight.
And I met Alexis.
We started talking,
and that's what,
like, got me.
Like, I was like, "Oh, okay."
You know?
- She was there to comfort you.
- Yeah.
- Aww.
- I hope Alexis is real.
I don't want
to see him get hurt.
He has, like, a big heart.
- Well, look,
you've seen her on video.
That's unusual.
Normally, when someone
in your position
is talking to someone
on the internet,
they don't do
video broadcasts...
- Yeah.
- Because they're concealing
their identity.
- Yeah, I didn't see,
like, her complete face.
But, like, I saw, like--like
half of her face like that.
- And you never said,
"Girl, slide that camera over.
Let me see your whole face"?
- I--
- She wouldn't want to, right?
- I asked her one time,
and she was like,
"No, I don't have makeup on."
[musical sting]
I don't know what
to think anymore.
My brain hurts.
- Yeah, me too.
[both laugh]
- Well, hopefully this girl,
Nikki, who we messaged,
gets back to us.
Whatever you have--pictures,
whatever--send it to us.
- All right.
- And hopefully
we'll find something.
- We're on the hunt.
- [sighs]
- All right, man.
Talk to you soon.
- Nice to meet you.
- Good to meet you.
- Bye.
[dramatic music]
- I like Jesus.
- He's had a hard life.
- Right.
I mean, look, until now,
I think he's just been happy
to have a girl in his life...
- Yeah.
- Who is a cute girl
that likes the stuff he likes.
- Something just tells me
that there's no way
that this ends well.
Somebody's hiding something.
- ♪ You know
I really want it ♪
- Let's get 'er done.
- [in Texan accent]
Research.
- ♪ You know I gotta have it ♪
- After you.
- Thanks.
- ♪ You know
I really want it, hoo ♪
[upbeat music]
- All right, let's get to work.
Jesus has been talking
to this girl, Alexis.
But we have reason to believe
that Alexis is not
who she says she is.
On top of the obvious reasons,
which are
that they haven't been
able to meet up
and that he's only seen her
face partly in a live video,
we also have
someone who's anonymously
reached out to say,
"Jesus, he's getting catfished.
"The girl he's been talking to
is not who she says she is."
- The issue is is that we have
photos from the whistle-blower
of this Nikki--
completely different person
than the person that Jesus
showed us of Alexis.
- Well, so the question
then is,
is it possible that whoever
Jesus is talking to
has multiple fake profiles
and that the whistle-blower
just sent us
one of Alexis' fake profiles?
- Right.
- Or is the person
who informed us via email
and texted Jesus
who he's actually talking to?
Is that Alexis trying
to come clean?
Because the person who emailed
us hasn't written back yet.
- Hmm. Suspicious.
- Here's the info from Jesus.
"I don't have a lot
of info on Alexis,
"but here's what I do know."
"Her phone number,
"and her baby girl's
name is Alyssa.
"I attached the two pictures
I have of her
and the screenshot
of that weird text I got."
All right.
Let's do a little image search.
[ominous music]
No.
- Nothing.
- So nothing there.
Let's try this one.
♪ ♪
- Nothing.
- Nothing.
All right.
So nothing with the photos.
Let's do a search
for Alexis' phone number.
Let's see.
No name associated.
Okay, so what do we know now?
We know that Jesus is talking
to a girl named Alexis.
He got a text mentioning
that there's
a catfish named Nicole.
So let's take a look
at that fake Nicole page
that the whistle-blower sent us
to see if it gives us any clues
as to what's going on here.
All right,
so here's the page we got.
The last public post is when
she changed her profile picture
in 2018.
- Ah!
- Oh, what is this?
Someone named Julia commented
on the picture
and said, "Looking good!
Are we still on
to meet next week?"
- It sounds like this person
has been talking to her.
- Okay, let's message her.
"Hey, this is Nev
from the MTV show "Catfish.'"
"I'm working on an episode now
that involves your friend.
Please give me a call."
All right, so I've sent
Julia a message.
That's done.
So now let's look
at that message Jesus got
from the whistle-blower.
"Hey, I'm not trying
to upset you,
"but you should
stop talking to Nicole.
She's not
who she says she is."
And then there's a screen name.
- "Nickyshorty [bleep].
Right.
- All right, let's do a search
for Nikki's handle.
- Nickyshorty [bleep].
both: Oh!
- And it came up with an email.
- Wait,
but different photo.
Look, look, look.
- Wait, that's--
both: That's the girl.
- That's Alexis.
- Yes.
- And that is Nikki.
- So there's a connection.
both: Wait.
- Here's some more photos.
There actually are
multiple profiles,
but this profile is
for a girl named Jessica,
not Alexis.
- These are her profiles.
This is what she's been doing.
- So there's
a couple other profiles
connected to that email.
And one of them
with the photos of Alexis
who calls themselves "Tina."
So there's a number of fake
profiles and names associated
with the pictures of the girl
that Jesus has been seeing.
But they all do
also connect back
to this email for the catfish.
- What it looks like
right now
is that homegirl Nickyshorty
has been making these profiles
for a long time.
That profile says it's
been up since 2015.
- Right.
- Why would she have
so many different profiles
with different names
of the same pictures
of the same girl?
It could be
she been out here scamming.
- It certainly points
to the same person
being at the center
of this whole thing.
- I mean, at the very least,
Jesus needs to know
that chances are that
that's not the person
that he's been talking to
this whole time.
- Right.
- I don't wanna break
his big little heart.
- I'm not sure exactly what
Jesus will make of all this.
Let's call him.
- Jesus, we wanna
meet back up
so that we can figure
all this out.
- All right.
See you soon.
Here we are.
- It's a small library.
- Sure is.
Well, okay.
[foreboding music]
- Hello?
- Hey.
- Hi.
both: Hey.
- This is so cute.
- Aww.
- What's up, man?
- Hi.
- [sighs comfortably]
- Have you spoken to her today?
- Not today.
- Oh, okay.
All right, so look.
We did find some things,
and we just wanted
to show you what we found...
- Okay.
- So we can all decide what--
what to do next.
- All right.
- So we got our first break
when we did a search
for the screen name that
that person texted you.
- Uh-huh.
- Remember, it was like Nicky--
- Nickyshorty [bleep].
- Right.
And it came up with an email
linked to a bunch of stuff.
- Okay.
- So check this out.
It shows a couple
other profiles
connected to that email.
And one of them is for someone
with the photos of Alexis...
- What the?
- Who calls themselves Tina.
♪ ♪
And when we...
but we don't know what that
means, because then, look.
We went to another one,
and it came up under
the profile for Jessica G.
- What the f...
- Okay, and then there's
a bunch of photos here--
photos that you haven't seen
of this girl.
- But that's her.
- It's her. Right.
- Right, that's her.
- It looks like her.
- Right.
- But go back to that last tab.
Under her,
there's a photo of Alexis...
- Right.
- Attached to the same
email address profile.
- So there's some connection,
obviously,
between Nikki and Alexis.
- Which is bizarre.
[melancholic guitar music]
- [sighs]
I don't know.
- Who knows if these aren't
just a bunch
of fake profiles...
- Mm-hmm.
- And none of them are real?
This girl in the photos
may not be
the person who is behind
all of these profiles.
It could just be another fake
profile after fake profile.
- Yeah, that's
what I was thinking.
It could be, like, somebody
else that you don't even know.
- And have never seen.
It could be somebody whose face
we have not seen yet.
- All right.
- Jesus, what are you thinking?
- I'm mad.
I've been talking to someone
for a whole year.
♪ ♪
I wanna get
to the bottom of this.
- Well, now the question is,
"Who is this?"
But the question is also,
"Why are they doing this
in the first place?"
- The only thing we haven't
tried is texting or calling
with this mystery informant
that texted you.
- Yeah.
- Which we could try.
You still have that number?
- Yeah.
- Okay, great.
Let me try texting.
[eerie music]
♪ ♪
Okay.
- And you now haven't contacted
Alexis at all, right?
- No.
- Can we try that too?
- Sure.
I think we should call Alexis.
Let's, uh--
let's give it a shot.
[line trilling]
- You know what to do
after the beep.
[voicemail beeps]
- Hey, Alexis.
Uh, this is Nev,
and I'm here in Texas
with Jesus.
And we're making
an episode of "Catfish,"
which I assume
you're somewhat familiar with,
and we're at the point where
we'd like to now
figure out a way
to get you and Jesus
to meet each other.
So give me a call back if you
get a chance at this number.
And hopefully we'll hear
from you shortly.
Thanks.
[phone chimes]
Whoa.
- What?
- Wait, this is
from the other--
the mystery texter.
It says--
- Ooh, what does it say?
- It says,
"If you want more info,
we should meet in person."
- In person?
- "Agreed.
That would be great."
- Yes!
- "Where are you?"
[text message app whooshing]
"I'm about
two and a half hours away.
"I'm in San Marcos.
It's on the way to Austin."
Do you guys know San Marcos?
- Yeah, I know--
- I know where that's at.
San Marcos.
[text message app swooshes]
- Ooh.
- Oh, wow.
Just sent an address
and said, "Come ASAP."
- What?
- "Who are you?"
- "And who are you,
may I ask?"
[text message app swooshes]
"You can call me"...
- Baby A.
- Baby A.
- Baby A. Baby Alexis.
- We gotta get up there.
- Yes, we do.
- It sounds like this person,
Baby A, knows where Alexis is,
or at least...
- Yes.
- Gets us closer
to finding out.
both: Mm-hmm.
- I'm so nervous.
- It's okay.
You're good.
- Have you ever
seen him like this?
- No.Mm-mm.
- Well, I guess
we should just go.
Is that okay?
To drive up there?
- I have to go back home.
- Bummer. Okay.
- I'm okay with it.
- All right.
So let's get going.
- Let's do this.
[foreboding music]
- My ride's here.
- I'll text you.
- I wish y'all the best.
- Come in.
- I know.
- Thanks for helping.
- Okay, bye.
- Let's go meet whoever
this mystery informant is.
- Oh, my God.
- We have no idea
who we're about to meet.
- I just wanna get
to the bottom of this.
- It's all a big mystery.
- ♪ I am on fire ♪
[eerie pop music]
♪ Just for tonight ♪
♪ ♪
♪ Let the rhythm take over ♪
♪ Now ♪
♪ Whoo, ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
- We have no idea
who this person is.
Guy, girl,
someone you know, Alexis.
Is it Nikki from the pictures?
- ♪ Do you find ♪
- All right,
we're basically there.
- [exhales]
- Why don't you text her?
- Okay.
- Text her and say,
"Hey, we're five minutes
from that address."
- "Hey, we're
five minutes away."
[text message app swooshes]
- ♪ Ooh, ah ♪
♪ Do you finally win ♪
- This is--
this is it?
How is that even an address?
There's nothing here.
- It seems unsafe, and...
- Now it's kind of dark.
- This person is
not texting back.
- No response from miss--
from Baby A.
[tense music]
This is it.
It's a park.
- It's too dark to be
meeting anybody in a park.
♪ ♪
I'm just gonna
say we're here.
- I think we're here.
Uh...
I don't know; I guess
we gotta get out of the car
and--and see if anyone's here.
- I'm so nervous.
- [murmurs indistinctly]
Well...
what the hell?
- I don't know.
Should we--I mean...
- We could call?
- Sure. Yeah.
[line trilling]
[line trilling]
Oh, I see people over there.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
[voicemail beeps]
Mm, I don't think so.
- What do you think's going on?
- I have no idea.
- There's, like, a group of
people sitting at that table.
I don't--I didn't go
all the way over there,
but I don't think...
they're here for us.
[text message app swooshes]
- Ah!
- You got a response?
- What the...
"So, so sorry.
I gotta work late now.
"I really do want
to meet you, though.
Can we try again
in the morning, same place?"
- [groans]
[dramatic music]
- "Absolutely not."
- This has gotta be Alexis.
- Now I'm mad.
- Me too!
We drove, like,
almost two hours,
two and a half hours
to come here,
and poof.
What do we do?
- [stammers] I mean, we don't--
th--there's noth--
look, obviously,
we're at Baby A's whim.
So I think we just have to...
- Play by her rules?
- Wha--what's our other option?
Just say, "No, we're gonna--
we're gonna--
we're out of here?"
- I said,
"No excuses tomorrow.
We came a long way."
- Okay.
Well, I guess that's that then.
- I just want to know
if it's bull[bleep].
Like, is this
just more bull[bleep],
or are you actually gonna
meet up tomorrow?
- That's the fear,
is that we're gonna leave here
not knowing what's
really going on.
- I don't know what
to think anymore.
[knock at door]
- Hello?
- Hi.
- How's it going?
- Good.
- So should we just check in?
- Yes.
- "Good morning, Baby A.
Let us know when to meet you."
[text message app swooshes]
All right, so that's sent.
- I really hope we get
to the bottom of it today.
- What is your
best-case scenario?
- Like, deep down,
I still believe it's Alexis.
- Jesus.
- Come on.
- I know.
I know it's weird, but...
- Honey, chances
of Alexis showing up
and looking like
the girl in the pictures
is .000001%.
- You need to start preparing
yourself for the reality
that, like, you've been
talking to someone,
you haven't been getting
the whole truth,
and you need
to be ready to decide--
when you hopefully
meet this person--
if you feel like
they're someone
who deserves
to be in your life.
[phone chimes]
Oh!
Oh, I got
a text from Baby A.
She said, "I really am sorry
about last night.
"I'm on my way to the park now.
Can you meet soon?
I'll be there."
- I've heard this one before.
- "We can head there now.
See you then."
[text message app swooshes]
- All right, Jesus.
- All right.
You ready?
- I'm ready.
- All right.
Let's do it then.
[intense music]
Round two.
- Let's do this.
- Who is it gonna be?
- Nobody knows.
- After last night,
how do we know we can trust
anything this person says?
- All right, we're back.
- I don't see
anybody back there.
- Is that a Baby A back there?
- Oh, there is someone
sitting.
- That thing?
- Oh, yeah.
Someone.
- Is that a girl?
- Someone you recognize?
- No.
- Who is that?
- That's got to be Baby A.
You ready to figure out
what the heck is going on?
- Let's do this.
[exhales]
- Hi.
- Hi.
- Baby A?
- Yeah.
- Is that you?
- Hi. That's me.
- So mysterious.
- [sighs]
A childhood nickname.
- I'm Kamie, by the way.
- Amanda.
Nice to meet you.
- Wait, what's your name?
- Amanda.
- I heard that name before.
- Like, in regards to Alexis?
- Yeah.
- We were friends.
- Yeah, so I heard.
- Uh, we had a
huge falling-out.
- All right, so you and Alexis
used to be friends.
- Yes.
You know her as Alexis.
- Yeah?
- I know her as Nicole.
- [exhaling] Oh, my God.
- She's really... [sighs]
Not a good person at all.
- The [bleep].
- She's got so many
different profiles,
so many different names.
- Okay, so the Nikki
Facebook page that you sent us
is a real person.
That's their real profile.
- Yes.
- But Nicole, the person that
you used to be friends with
who's been talking to Jesus,
isn't the girl
in those pictures.
- Correct.
- So why did you send us
that Facebook page?
- Because I assumed that's
what she had sent him.
- How many profiles do you
know of that she has?
- I know of Alexis,
uh, Nicole, Bella.
There's probably
more than that.
- So this is Alexis.
- So I've seen
that picture before,
but I don't--
that's not who Nicole is.
- Okay, so that's not Nicole.
- No.
- Okay.
- This is a career for her.
She literally lives off
of what she does.
I'm not kidding
when I'm telling you--
- So she's a scam artist...
- Yes.
- Basically a crim--like a--
- This is what we had
a falling-out over.
- Got it, so you discovered
that she was doing this.
- I discovered she was
using pictures of my daughters
to send to these people...
- [gasps]
- Saying that this
is her daughter.
- Oh, no.
- I was...
[voice cracks] Livid.
- Oh, no.
- She also talks
to people in prison.
So my biggest concern
is these people--
I don't know who they are, A,
and what they're in there for--
have pictures of my kids.
- Oh, no.
- I'm not kidding when
I tell you it's...
it's [bleep]ed up.
[music fades]
- And why only reach out to
try to help Jesus now when--
- Because I just recently
found out about him.
Um...
- How did you find out?
- From her.
- How'd you get his number?
- From her phone.
- Do you know where she is now?
- She's around here somewhere.
- So she doesn't know that you
reached out to us, obviously.
- Mm-mm.
We haven't talked in
two to three weeks.
- Well, we don't know
how to talk to her,
'cause if she's the criminal
that you say she is,
she's probably not gonna
want to meet up with us.
- She's very narcissistic,
and if she knows that
you're talking to me,
she's gonna
come talk to you.
- Well, I'm glad
you reached out to me, Amanda.
- No problem.
I mean, I figured you deserved
to know the truth.
- Yeah.
[solemn music]
- Thank you, Amanda.
- You're welcome.
- Baby A.
- It was nice...
[laughs] Good luck.
- Thanks.
It was good to meet you.
- Y'all too.
- Well, she seemed believable.
- I didn't see that coming.
At all.
- [inhales sharply]Yeah.
- She's, like,
a professional catfish.
- Yeah.
- If this is what
she does for years,
I mean, who knows how long
she's been doing this?
- Good thing I never
gave her [bleep]ing money.
- Well, based on
what Amanda says,
it sounds like
we should text her.
This is what I'm thinking.
"So we just got
the whole story from Amanda.
"Can't imagine you have
anything to add,
so we're probably just
going to get going."
- I like that.
- Cause, you know,
the last thing she wants
is someone else telling
her side of things.
- I don't know anymore.
- You have to stand up
for yourself.
She's been wasting
a year of your time.
You don't deserve
to have your time wasted.
You deserve the truth.
♪ ♪
- You all right, man?
- [quietly] Yeah.
- ♪ Suddenly I am not
yours any longer ♪
♪ I am not yours any longer ♪
♪ Nothing ever feels like
I thought it would feel like ♪
- It's not your fault.
- ♪ Nothing ever feels like ♪
♪ I thought
it would feel like ♪
♪ ♪
- Lying about the photos
is one thing,
but it's her whole entire life.
She's a con artist.
That's--she's--
that's what she does.
- [exhales]
[phone chimes]
both: Oh.
- It worked.
"You guys can't believe
a damn thing Amanda says.
I'll meet you."
And she sends an address.
"Okay, then we will
see you soon."
[swoosh]
All right, here goes nothing.
[intriguing music]
Let's roll.
- [as Ricky Ricardo] She's got
some explaining to do.
- Let's just hope she's there.
♪ ♪
Oh, I guess it's this
little apartment complex.
- This one here?
- Super 8.
Oh, it's a hotel.
Weird.
- All right...
- Does she live here?
- This is weird.
- Yeah, right?
Feels pretty shady.
- I'm nervous again, guys.
- Yeah, let's say we're here.
"Are you in one of the rooms?"
[text message app swooshes]
- I don't like this.
- Me either.
- I guess if we just--
you guys hang out here.
Let me snoop around.
- No problem.
- See what I can figure out.
[ambient music]
♪ ♪
She could be in a r--
one of these rooms.
Maybe she works here.
I don't know.
[phone chimes]
Oh.
- Oh, great.
- 106.
All right.
Oh, it's right there.
All right, hold on.
Let me see.
[suspenseful music]
- Come on.
Let's go.
- She's got to be in her room.
♪ ♪
- Who's that?
[eerie music]
♪ ♪
- Hi.
- Hi.
- Alexis?
- Yeah.
- Or Nicole?
- Yeah.
- What should we call you?
- Nicole.
- Yeah.
- All right.
Uh, well, glad you're here.
Obviously Jesus is here.
He wants to meet you.
- Okay.
- We have some questions too.
- Okay.
- So if you're ready,
why don't you come outside?
- [stammers] Okay.
I'm ready.
- Oh, my God.
- Who's that?
[unsettling music]
- Oh, wow.
- Why don't we--
why don't we come over here?
- That's Alexis?
♪ ♪
- So Nicole...
- Mm.
- This is Jesus.
And you are the person
he's been talking to.
- Mm-hmm.
- Is that right?
- Mm-hmm.
- Okay.
So what's been going on here?
Because we got a whole
story from Amanda.
Clearly you're not the girl
in the pictures.
- No, Amanda made
the profile, okay?
- Wait, Amanda
made the profile?
- Amanda made
the profile years ago.
She was doing this and she used
to be my best friend.
She's not anymore.
- Hold on,
so you're saying
that when Jesus started
talking to Alexis,
he was actually
talking to Amanda?
- He was talking to her,
and then I took over.
- How long have
you been the profile?
- Uh, probably
talking to him, like,
a little over a year.
- So pretty much
the whole time.
- Yeah.
- And it was you
in the video chat, right?
- It was me.
- Okay, so you are the catfish.
Who's the girl
in the Alexis profile?
- That's my cousin.
Those are her pictures.
- Oh, you used pictures
of your cousin.
- Yes, that's,
quote-unquote, "Alexis."
- And she knew you were
using her pictures--or not--
- No, Amanda didn't
tell her nothing.
Amanda befriended her
like a friend.
You know, "Hey,
let's do this together."
I said okay, you know.
I agreed to it.
- And what about
this Nicole person?
- That's my daughter, Nikki.
- You used pictures
of your daughter?
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
- Does your daughter know
that you're using her pictures?
- No.
- What about your
other daughter, Alyssa,
that you told Jesus about?
- Yeah, who's Alyssa?
- Alyss--
that's Amanda's daughter.
- You said it was
your daughter.
- Yeah, but don't yell at me.
That's Amanda's daughter.
- Oh, right.
Amanda said you guys
got into a big fight
'cause you sent pictures
of her kids
to some guy in prison.
- Uh, first of all,
she's the one that gave me
the pictures to send to him.
Second of all, Amanda was--
- So you did send
pictures of her daughter
to someone in prison.
- To nobody in prison.
She was in this the whole time.
I don't know what
she's talking about.
- The bottom line is
Alexis is not real.
You're talking for a year-plus
to this young man.
And the idea was to make
a fake profile to talk to guys
to see if you could get them
to give you money?
- Yeah.
Amanda's being a total bitch
and a hater right now.
- Enough about Amanda.
You're the one here who's
telling me you have been
scamming lots of guys,
pretending to be Alexis.
Then, like--
and you're the catfish.
- I'm not innocent.
I'm far from innocent.
But don't make me look
like a [bleep] bad person
on [bleep] national TV.
'Cause I can easily just get up
and walk away real quick
and I won't care.
- So you don't care
about him at all?
- I care for him as a friend.
- You guys were saying,
"I love you."
- Like, friend feelings.
As a friend.
You can't tell a friend
you love him?
- Well, right, but you knew
that he was more in love
than just, like, a friend.
- Well, yeah, but it was just
like I wanted a friendship.
- You have to care
about him if you--you--
a year is a long time
to talk to anybody.
- Really?
I have to?
When nobody give
a [bleep] about you,
you don't gotta care
about nobody.
You don't know my life story.
You don't know what
I've been through.
I've been through
a lot of [bleep].
I've been in the foster care,
I've been adopted--
- I have too.
- I've been in and out of jail
since I was 11 years old, okay?
I've done through
a lot of [bleep], okay, Jesus?
I've been through a lot.
I been--
- I have too.
- I've had my ass dragged
from one end to the other,
okay?
If you don't want to talk to me
at the end of the [bleep] day,
oh, well, so be it.
I'm still going to be me,
I'm still going to move on,
I'm going to do me and my kids,
and that's the bottom
[bleep] line to it.
And if you believe Amanda,
then you're [bleep]ing
dumber than I thought.
- Oh, my God.
- But you lied.
- I honestly don't believe
anything that you're saying.
[tense music]
- I mean, what you did
is not okay.
Take some [bleep]ing
responsibility for yourself.
You realize what you're doing
is really [bleep]ed up.
- I'm done.
I'm done with this situation.
I'm done.
I'm gonna walk away
'cause I'm about to cuss
your ass out real quick.
- Well--
- So I'm done with this.
I don't want to talk about it.
Thank you.
Okay, I'm already done.
- Just let it be.
Just let it be, guys.
- She's obviously
in a lot of pain.
But so are a lot of people.
And it's not an excuse.
- I just want
to go home already.
- Look, I know this
has all been tough,
but for your own sake,
go see if she'll talk to you.
'Cause I don't think
she cares about us.
She doesn't--obviously--
want to hear from us.
She took advantage of you.
She needs to know why
it's messed up and wrong.
- I'm just too nice
to even say anything to anyone.
- Well, [bleep] that.
Niceness is done.
Being respectful
to other people
doesn't mean being
disrespected yourself.
That's not what that means.
Respect is a mutual thing.
And it has to be earned.
[tense music]
- All right.
- You got this.
♪ ♪
[knocking on door]
- Can we talk?
- Yeah, come in.
[ambient music]
♪ ♪
- I'm mad because you lied
to me about Alyssa.
- Yeah, and you said
you were 20...
[stirring music]
But you're not.
You're almost--
you're what?
- I'm also mad...
- 'Cause I didn't tell you--
- 'Cause you lied.
- Yeah, I know. and it was
[bleep]ed up about me,
and I do apologize, you know?
It takes a lot.
I've been through
so much [bleep] before--
- I know, I've been
through a lot too, you know?
- Mm-hmm.
- And I just think...
it's messed up, what you did.
- Well, yeah, it's pretty--
it's [bleep] up.
I know I should have told you.
- I think that's it.
That's all I have
to say right now.
- ♪ I should have
told you no ♪
- [lightly] All right.
Well, bye, Jesus.
- ♪ Got me slowly choking
on your every word ♪
♪ You're killing me slow ♪
- How'd that go?
What did you guys...
- Just...
I told her how I felt.
- Are you all right?
- Yeah.
I just told her that I really
didn't want to talk to her.
- All right.
- Well, good for you.
I'm glad you did that.
- Well, good job.
Okay, let's get out of here.
- I'm proud of you, Jesus.
♪ ♪
- ♪ We flew too close
to the sun ♪
- I think it's very clear
both of you need to work
on your happiness.
- Yeah.
- You both have been unhappy
for a long time.
- I'm just going
to focus on myself,
losing weight,
trying to get my GED.
No dating,
no nothing.
- Focus on yourself
and your own happiness...
- Yeah.
- So that
you don't have to rely on
any person or thing
to be that for you.
- Yeah.
- ♪ Close to the sun ♪
♪ ♪
[Skype call ringing]
- Jesus!
- Hey!
- Hey.
- How's it going?
- I'm doing way better.
- Oh, yeah?
- Yeah?
- I'm losing weight,
and I'm actually
seeing someone.
- Wait, so you're
dating someone in person?
- Yeah, in person.
- Who?
- Who's the lucky lady?
- Her name is Nia.
- Nia. She hot?
- [chuckling] Yeah, super hot.
- There we go.
- That's my guy.
- [giggles]
- I knew something was
different about you.
[all chuckling]
- Well, that's great.
And what about Nicole?
Do you ever talk
to her anymore?
- Honestly, I haven't talked
to her since that day.
- That's probably for the best.
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- Glad to see things
are going good for you.
Keep it up.
- Yes, sir.
both: Bye.
- Bye.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
Joseph meets this girl,
Sabrina, on Facebook.
- This is the girl.
This is the one
that you actually need
to settle down with.
- Wait, her daughter died?
- What?
- That's wild as [bleep].
- Yeah.
- Homey is getting played.
- That's her right there.
[suspenseful music]
1201
00:41:33.
a whistle-blower.
"I tried to tell
this guy named Jesus
"to stop talking
to this girl, Nicole,
who I know is a catfish."
- We talk every day.
- I don't want
to see him get hurt.
- I don't know what
to think anymore.
- Whoa.
- What?
- This is
from the whistle-blower.
- I just want to get
to the bottom of this.
- There's nothing here.
- This seems unsafe.
Oh, my God.
- "I need your help."
"Help."
For almost a decade,
"Catfish" has brought
desperate hopefuls
the answers they deserve.
- Thank you guys so much
for bringing us together.
- This time around, though,
we flipped the script.
Now, I'm heading out
with my cohost, Kamie.
- Who's ready to go fishing?
- We're helping people
who need us the most.
Let's do it.
Only they have no idea.
- She doesn't know
I reached out to you guys.
- Oh, my goodness.
- This season,
we're being tipped off
by friends...
- I care about him a lot.
- Family...
- My brother's really
in love with her.
- And even anonymous sources.
Whoa.
- What?
- This is
from the whistle-blower.
Ride-or-dies
who will not sit back
while their loved ones
get played.
- ♪ Come on and catch me now ♪
- Why can't we meet?
- Homey is getting played.
- So many layers.
- 'Cause even when
you don't know it...
Chill, chill, chill.
- [bleep] him, man.
- Take a second.
- [exhales]
- "Catfish" has your back.
[dramatic musical sting]
- Happy birthday, Nev.
- Yeah, happy birthday.
- The crew got you a present.
- What is it?
- Is this a butt pillow?
Wow.
You nailed it.
Look at this.
A custom butt cushion.
- Wow, customized.
- This is nice.
- I know a few girls
who've got their butt done,
and they have that same pillow.
- [laughs]
- You can't sit
on your butt directly
for, like,
months afterwards.
[both laugh]
- Let's dive
into the old email.
Uh-oh.
We got an email here
from an anonymous sender.
- Mm.
- Whoever it is
goes by "Baby A."
- Oh, God.
- "Hey, Nev,
"I tried to tell this guy
in San Antonio
"to stop talking
to this girl, Nicole,
who I know is a catfish."
- ♪ Don't you worry,
I've got this on lock ♪
- "He thinks they 'bond'
over wrestling,
but it's all BS."
- ♪ Yes, I've learned
about myself a lot ♪
- "The guy who's getting fooled
"is named Jesus.
"Here's his Facebook
and phone number.
"I'm not sure
"which of the fake profiles
he's talking to.
But here's the profile
for the real girl, Nikki."
- ♪ Don't you get it twisted ♪
- Whoa, so we've got
a whistle-blower.
- What is going on?
Who is this?
- Very mysterious.
- Yeah.
- I mean, should we
just call Jesus?
We have his number.
I mean, let's just go
straight to the source.
[line trilling]
- Hi, is this Jesus?
- This is Nev from "Catfish."
Are you familiar
with that show?
- We got an email
from someone--
they didn't say their name--
who says they know
you're talking to a catfish
and that this person tried
to tell you that.
- Wait, you don't know
a Nicole?
Wait--
- ♪ Don't you
get it twisted ♪
- Wait, what?
Alexis?
Are you able to Skype
or video chat right now?
- I'll send you my Skype name.
Whenever you're ready,
just call me.
- Talk to you in a bit.
Bye.
- So wait.
We know Nicole is a catfish.
But who is Alexis?
There's too many names.
I'm very confused.
I need more information.
- We have to assume
that the text he got
was from the same person,
right?
- Right, yes.
- Oh, here we go.
[Skype call chiming]
All right.
This must be him.
both: Jesus!
- Hi.
- What's up?
- I'm Kamie, by the way.
- Hi.
- So wait, how old are you?
- I'm 21.
- Okay, you're 21,
you live in San Antonio.
Why did we get an email saying
that some random person thinks
you're getting catfished?
- I have no idea.
Like I said,
I don't know a Nicole.
I've been talking
to someone named Alexis.
- And how long
have you been talking?
- For almost a year.
- That's a good amount
of time.
- And how did you meet Alexis?
- I used to go
on this app called "MeetMe."
Alexis sent me
a friend request.
She told me,
"I'ma go live
if you want to join it."
It was, like, kind of dark,
but, like, it looked like her.
- Okay.
- She was just talking to me
and, like, other people.
And we just started talking
from there.
- What do you know about her?
- She lives in Austin.
She has a kid.
Her daughter, Alyssa,
is, like, three or four.
- How old is Alexis?
- I think she's 20.
- All right, so you guys
are about the same age.
- Me and her actually have
a lot of stuff in common.
We both like
watching wrestling,
like the same music.
We talk on the phone
every day.
I like her a lot.
I want to be with her.
- Do you guys say that
you love each other too?
Like, on the phone?
- Yeah.
- So why haven't you guys met?
'Cause San Antonio and Austin,
that's not that far.
- We tried meeting up
a couple times,
but she couldn't
'cause she had to take care
of her daughter.
- Hmm.
- What about, like, Facebook?
Instagram?
Does she have profiles?
- I don't have her
on none of that.
- Why not?
- I guess I never
bothered asking.
- Have you guys video chatted?
- I asked one time,
and her phone was broken.
[musical sting]
- The good old
"phone was broken."
- Have you and Alexis ever
exchanged any money or gifts?
- She asked me
for money two times,
but couldn't give it to her
'cause I didn't have none.
[tense music]
- Does anybody in your family
know about Alexis?
- Not really.
The only person that knows is,
like, my best friend, Star.
- Got it.
Look, we don't know
what's going on here,
but someone--
and we don't know who--
seems to think you are
getting catfished.
- I don't know.
I still think Alexis is
who she says she is.
- Do you want our help?
Do you need our help?
Or do you feel like you've
got things under control?
- I wanna find out
who this person is
who sent the text.
- Okay, so you're actually
more interested in
who the anonymous informant is
than you are--right.
- More so than who the girl
you're talking to is?
- Yeah, her.
She, like...
I wanna--
like, I wanna meet her.
I wanna finally get
to see her and everything.
- All right, well, look.
We can come down
to San Antonio.
We can hopefully
figure this out.
- I would really love that.
- All right.
Sit tight.
We'll see you soon, Jesus.
- Bye.
- Bye.
- Bye.
- I have a hunch.
- You think that
the informant is Alexis?
- Yes,
and her name is "Alexis."
This person's name is Baby A.
Baby A...
- Right.
- Baby Alexis.
- So we've got two things
we gotta figure out now...
- Is Alexis real?
And who is this
mystery informant?
We need to write back to her.
"Hey, wanted to get
some more information.
Please get back to me ASAP."
We can also reach out to Nikki,
who she says is the real girl
in the pictures.
"Hey Nikki.
Got a tip that someone's
using your photos."
Boom. That's sent.
All right.
Let's San Anton...
- San Antoni-go?
- Let's just go.
- [laughs]
- ♪ 'Cause I get what I want ♪
♪ And I want you now ♪
♪ Yeah, I get what I want ♪
- All right.
- We're in San Antonio.
- Man, this is...
we are out there.
- We are off the grid.
- It feels like
"True Detective" out here.
There he is.
- Oh, hey.
- Oh, my God.
They have chickens.
- Let's go get him.
both: Jesus.
- What's up, man?
- Hi.
- How are you doing?
- Good.
This is Star.
- You mentioned Star.
- Hi.
- Yes.
- Hi.
- Hi!
- Nice to meet you.
- It's good to meet you.
- Hi. Nice to meet you.
[kitten meows]
- There's so many fun things.
- All right, wait.
Let's meet these kittens.
- Jesus, none of the kittens
wanna play with me.
- How do I grab
a kitten around here?
We got a bunch
of scaredy-cats here.
Should we go in?
- We'll go in.
[upbeat music]
- So you guys are,
like, best friends?
- Since freshman year.
- Since freshman year.
- So you knew about Alexis
probably from when
he started talking to her.
- Mm-hmm.
- Yeah.
- So let's talk about
this mystery girl.
- Okay. I'm ready.
- An anonymous person
emailed us, and said,
"There's this guy in Texas.
"I think he's getting
catfished.
"I tried to help him,
but he won't listen to me.
"I'm not sure which of the
fake profiles he's talking to,
but here's the profile
for the real girl, Nikki."
Here's the Facebook page
that she sent us.
So this girl.
- What? That's not her!
- That does not look like her.
- Wait, what do you mean
that's not her?
- Show them the picture.
- All right.
[tense music]
This is Alexis.
- Yeah.
- Whoa, this is
a totally different girl.
♪ ♪
- Which one's real?
Which one's which?
- I don't know if any of them
are real at this point.
It's even more confusing.
Can we see that text you got
from the whistle-blower?
"Hey, I'm not trying
to upset you,
"but you should stop
talking to Nicole.
She's not who she says she is."
And then there's
a screen name.
- "Nickyshorty [bleep]."
- Do you know what that means?
- I don't know for what.
And, you know,
it was just a username.
- Right, right.
So is the person who emailed me
just, kind of,
got their story wrong?
- I don't know.
- 'Cause obviously
they named you.
- What the freak is going on?
- Well, look,
it's very possible
that the girl you're talking to
may not be the girl
in those photos.
- Yeah.
- But you hadn't
really even suspected
that anything weird
could be going on until...
- Until--
- Just now?
- Yeah.
- You guys have been talking,
like, consistently?
- We talk every day.
- Wow, that is a lot.
- If she's real, your end goal
would be to be with her?
- Yeah.
We talked a couple times
about what if we
get a place and everything.
- Like to put a ring on it,
be with her?
- Maybe, yeah.
- Whoa.
It's a serious romance.
- Yeah.
- Star, do you think
that she's good for him?
- If she is real.
I mean, she makes him happy.
When he talks about her
or he talks to her,
he, like, lights up.
To me, like,
that's what matters the most.
I care about him a lot,
and I've been there
with him through a lot.
- Mm-hmm.
Yeah, like, when I was younger,
I got taken away from my mom.
And I was in foster care.
Like, she would, like, hit me.
And, like, telling me
that I was a mistake
and I should--
I should've never been born.
[somber music]
- It sounds like
what you were dealing with
is something that no child
should have to go through ever.
I'm sorry that
that happened to you.
- It's okay.
Now I'm here
and I'm--I'm doing way better.
I'm losing weight.
And I met Alexis.
We started talking,
and that's what,
like, got me.
Like, I was like, "Oh, okay."
You know?
- She was there to comfort you.
- Yeah.
- Aww.
- I hope Alexis is real.
I don't want
to see him get hurt.
He has, like, a big heart.
- Well, look,
you've seen her on video.
That's unusual.
Normally, when someone
in your position
is talking to someone
on the internet,
they don't do
video broadcasts...
- Yeah.
- Because they're concealing
their identity.
- Yeah, I didn't see,
like, her complete face.
But, like, I saw, like--like
half of her face like that.
- And you never said,
"Girl, slide that camera over.
Let me see your whole face"?
- I--
- She wouldn't want to, right?
- I asked her one time,
and she was like,
"No, I don't have makeup on."
[musical sting]
I don't know what
to think anymore.
My brain hurts.
- Yeah, me too.
[both laugh]
- Well, hopefully this girl,
Nikki, who we messaged,
gets back to us.
Whatever you have--pictures,
whatever--send it to us.
- All right.
- And hopefully
we'll find something.
- We're on the hunt.
- [sighs]
- All right, man.
Talk to you soon.
- Nice to meet you.
- Good to meet you.
- Bye.
[dramatic music]
- I like Jesus.
- He's had a hard life.
- Right.
I mean, look, until now,
I think he's just been happy
to have a girl in his life...
- Yeah.
- Who is a cute girl
that likes the stuff he likes.
- Something just tells me
that there's no way
that this ends well.
Somebody's hiding something.
- ♪ You know
I really want it ♪
- Let's get 'er done.
- [in Texan accent]
Research.
- ♪ You know I gotta have it ♪
- After you.
- Thanks.
- ♪ You know
I really want it, hoo ♪
[upbeat music]
- All right, let's get to work.
Jesus has been talking
to this girl, Alexis.
But we have reason to believe
that Alexis is not
who she says she is.
On top of the obvious reasons,
which are
that they haven't been
able to meet up
and that he's only seen her
face partly in a live video,
we also have
someone who's anonymously
reached out to say,
"Jesus, he's getting catfished.
"The girl he's been talking to
is not who she says she is."
- The issue is is that we have
photos from the whistle-blower
of this Nikki--
completely different person
than the person that Jesus
showed us of Alexis.
- Well, so the question
then is,
is it possible that whoever
Jesus is talking to
has multiple fake profiles
and that the whistle-blower
just sent us
one of Alexis' fake profiles?
- Right.
- Or is the person
who informed us via email
and texted Jesus
who he's actually talking to?
Is that Alexis trying
to come clean?
Because the person who emailed
us hasn't written back yet.
- Hmm. Suspicious.
- Here's the info from Jesus.
"I don't have a lot
of info on Alexis,
"but here's what I do know."
"Her phone number,
"and her baby girl's
name is Alyssa.
"I attached the two pictures
I have of her
and the screenshot
of that weird text I got."
All right.
Let's do a little image search.
[ominous music]
No.
- Nothing.
- So nothing there.
Let's try this one.
♪ ♪
- Nothing.
- Nothing.
All right.
So nothing with the photos.
Let's do a search
for Alexis' phone number.
Let's see.
No name associated.
Okay, so what do we know now?
We know that Jesus is talking
to a girl named Alexis.
He got a text mentioning
that there's
a catfish named Nicole.
So let's take a look
at that fake Nicole page
that the whistle-blower sent us
to see if it gives us any clues
as to what's going on here.
All right,
so here's the page we got.
The last public post is when
she changed her profile picture
in 2018.
- Ah!
- Oh, what is this?
Someone named Julia commented
on the picture
and said, "Looking good!
Are we still on
to meet next week?"
- It sounds like this person
has been talking to her.
- Okay, let's message her.
"Hey, this is Nev
from the MTV show "Catfish.'"
"I'm working on an episode now
that involves your friend.
Please give me a call."
All right, so I've sent
Julia a message.
That's done.
So now let's look
at that message Jesus got
from the whistle-blower.
"Hey, I'm not trying
to upset you,
"but you should
stop talking to Nicole.
She's not
who she says she is."
And then there's a screen name.
- "Nickyshorty [bleep].
Right.
- All right, let's do a search
for Nikki's handle.
- Nickyshorty [bleep].
both: Oh!
- And it came up with an email.
- Wait,
but different photo.
Look, look, look.
- Wait, that's--
both: That's the girl.
- That's Alexis.
- Yes.
- And that is Nikki.
- So there's a connection.
both: Wait.
- Here's some more photos.
There actually are
multiple profiles,
but this profile is
for a girl named Jessica,
not Alexis.
- These are her profiles.
This is what she's been doing.
- So there's
a couple other profiles
connected to that email.
And one of them
with the photos of Alexis
who calls themselves "Tina."
So there's a number of fake
profiles and names associated
with the pictures of the girl
that Jesus has been seeing.
But they all do
also connect back
to this email for the catfish.
- What it looks like
right now
is that homegirl Nickyshorty
has been making these profiles
for a long time.
That profile says it's
been up since 2015.
- Right.
- Why would she have
so many different profiles
with different names
of the same pictures
of the same girl?
It could be
she been out here scamming.
- It certainly points
to the same person
being at the center
of this whole thing.
- I mean, at the very least,
Jesus needs to know
that chances are that
that's not the person
that he's been talking to
this whole time.
- Right.
- I don't wanna break
his big little heart.
- I'm not sure exactly what
Jesus will make of all this.
Let's call him.
- Jesus, we wanna
meet back up
so that we can figure
all this out.
- All right.
See you soon.
Here we are.
- It's a small library.
- Sure is.
Well, okay.
[foreboding music]
- Hello?
- Hey.
- Hi.
both: Hey.
- This is so cute.
- Aww.
- What's up, man?
- Hi.
- [sighs comfortably]
- Have you spoken to her today?
- Not today.
- Oh, okay.
All right, so look.
We did find some things,
and we just wanted
to show you what we found...
- Okay.
- So we can all decide what--
what to do next.
- All right.
- So we got our first break
when we did a search
for the screen name that
that person texted you.
- Uh-huh.
- Remember, it was like Nicky--
- Nickyshorty [bleep].
- Right.
And it came up with an email
linked to a bunch of stuff.
- Okay.
- So check this out.
It shows a couple
other profiles
connected to that email.
And one of them is for someone
with the photos of Alexis...
- What the?
- Who calls themselves Tina.
♪ ♪
And when we...
but we don't know what that
means, because then, look.
We went to another one,
and it came up under
the profile for Jessica G.
- What the f...
- Okay, and then there's
a bunch of photos here--
photos that you haven't seen
of this girl.
- But that's her.
- It's her. Right.
- Right, that's her.
- It looks like her.
- Right.
- But go back to that last tab.
Under her,
there's a photo of Alexis...
- Right.
- Attached to the same
email address profile.
- So there's some connection,
obviously,
between Nikki and Alexis.
- Which is bizarre.
[melancholic guitar music]
- [sighs]
I don't know.
- Who knows if these aren't
just a bunch
of fake profiles...
- Mm-hmm.
- And none of them are real?
This girl in the photos
may not be
the person who is behind
all of these profiles.
It could just be another fake
profile after fake profile.
- Yeah, that's
what I was thinking.
It could be, like, somebody
else that you don't even know.
- And have never seen.
It could be somebody whose face
we have not seen yet.
- All right.
- Jesus, what are you thinking?
- I'm mad.
I've been talking to someone
for a whole year.
♪ ♪
I wanna get
to the bottom of this.
- Well, now the question is,
"Who is this?"
But the question is also,
"Why are they doing this
in the first place?"
- The only thing we haven't
tried is texting or calling
with this mystery informant
that texted you.
- Yeah.
- Which we could try.
You still have that number?
- Yeah.
- Okay, great.
Let me try texting.
[eerie music]
♪ ♪
Okay.
- And you now haven't contacted
Alexis at all, right?
- No.
- Can we try that too?
- Sure.
I think we should call Alexis.
Let's, uh--
let's give it a shot.
[line trilling]
- You know what to do
after the beep.
[voicemail beeps]
- Hey, Alexis.
Uh, this is Nev,
and I'm here in Texas
with Jesus.
And we're making
an episode of "Catfish,"
which I assume
you're somewhat familiar with,
and we're at the point where
we'd like to now
figure out a way
to get you and Jesus
to meet each other.
So give me a call back if you
get a chance at this number.
And hopefully we'll hear
from you shortly.
Thanks.
[phone chimes]
Whoa.
- What?
- Wait, this is
from the other--
the mystery texter.
It says--
- Ooh, what does it say?
- It says,
"If you want more info,
we should meet in person."
- In person?
- "Agreed.
That would be great."
- Yes!
- "Where are you?"
[text message app whooshing]
"I'm about
two and a half hours away.
"I'm in San Marcos.
It's on the way to Austin."
Do you guys know San Marcos?
- Yeah, I know--
- I know where that's at.
San Marcos.
[text message app swooshes]
- Ooh.
- Oh, wow.
Just sent an address
and said, "Come ASAP."
- What?
- "Who are you?"
- "And who are you,
may I ask?"
[text message app swooshes]
"You can call me"...
- Baby A.
- Baby A.
- Baby A. Baby Alexis.
- We gotta get up there.
- Yes, we do.
- It sounds like this person,
Baby A, knows where Alexis is,
or at least...
- Yes.
- Gets us closer
to finding out.
both: Mm-hmm.
- I'm so nervous.
- It's okay.
You're good.
- Have you ever
seen him like this?
- No.Mm-mm.
- Well, I guess
we should just go.
Is that okay?
To drive up there?
- I have to go back home.
- Bummer. Okay.
- I'm okay with it.
- All right.
So let's get going.
- Let's do this.
[foreboding music]
- My ride's here.
- I'll text you.
- I wish y'all the best.
- Come in.
- I know.
- Thanks for helping.
- Okay, bye.
- Let's go meet whoever
this mystery informant is.
- Oh, my God.
- We have no idea
who we're about to meet.
- I just wanna get
to the bottom of this.
- It's all a big mystery.
- ♪ I am on fire ♪
[eerie pop music]
♪ Just for tonight ♪
♪ ♪
♪ Let the rhythm take over ♪
♪ Now ♪
♪ Whoo, ooh, ooh, ooh ♪
- We have no idea
who this person is.
Guy, girl,
someone you know, Alexis.
Is it Nikki from the pictures?
- ♪ Do you find ♪
- All right,
we're basically there.
- [exhales]
- Why don't you text her?
- Okay.
- Text her and say,
"Hey, we're five minutes
from that address."
- "Hey, we're
five minutes away."
[text message app swooshes]
- ♪ Ooh, ah ♪
♪ Do you finally win ♪
- This is--
this is it?
How is that even an address?
There's nothing here.
- It seems unsafe, and...
- Now it's kind of dark.
- This person is
not texting back.
- No response from miss--
from Baby A.
[tense music]
This is it.
It's a park.
- It's too dark to be
meeting anybody in a park.
♪ ♪
I'm just gonna
say we're here.
- I think we're here.
Uh...
I don't know; I guess
we gotta get out of the car
and--and see if anyone's here.
- I'm so nervous.
- [murmurs indistinctly]
Well...
what the hell?
- I don't know.
Should we--I mean...
- We could call?
- Sure. Yeah.
[line trilling]
[line trilling]
Oh, I see people over there.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
[voicemail beeps]
Mm, I don't think so.
- What do you think's going on?
- I have no idea.
- There's, like, a group of
people sitting at that table.
I don't--I didn't go
all the way over there,
but I don't think...
they're here for us.
[text message app swooshes]
- Ah!
- You got a response?
- What the...
"So, so sorry.
I gotta work late now.
"I really do want
to meet you, though.
Can we try again
in the morning, same place?"
- [groans]
[dramatic music]
- "Absolutely not."
- This has gotta be Alexis.
- Now I'm mad.
- Me too!
We drove, like,
almost two hours,
two and a half hours
to come here,
and poof.
What do we do?
- [stammers] I mean, we don't--
th--there's noth--
look, obviously,
we're at Baby A's whim.
So I think we just have to...
- Play by her rules?
- Wha--what's our other option?
Just say, "No, we're gonna--
we're gonna--
we're out of here?"
- I said,
"No excuses tomorrow.
We came a long way."
- Okay.
Well, I guess that's that then.
- I just want to know
if it's bull[bleep].
Like, is this
just more bull[bleep],
or are you actually gonna
meet up tomorrow?
- That's the fear,
is that we're gonna leave here
not knowing what's
really going on.
- I don't know what
to think anymore.
[knock at door]
- Hello?
- Hi.
- How's it going?
- Good.
- So should we just check in?
- Yes.
- "Good morning, Baby A.
Let us know when to meet you."
[text message app swooshes]
All right, so that's sent.
- I really hope we get
to the bottom of it today.
- What is your
best-case scenario?
- Like, deep down,
I still believe it's Alexis.
- Jesus.
- Come on.
- I know.
I know it's weird, but...
- Honey, chances
of Alexis showing up
and looking like
the girl in the pictures
is .000001%.
- You need to start preparing
yourself for the reality
that, like, you've been
talking to someone,
you haven't been getting
the whole truth,
and you need
to be ready to decide--
when you hopefully
meet this person--
if you feel like
they're someone
who deserves
to be in your life.
[phone chimes]
Oh!
Oh, I got
a text from Baby A.
She said, "I really am sorry
about last night.
"I'm on my way to the park now.
Can you meet soon?
I'll be there."
- I've heard this one before.
- "We can head there now.
See you then."
[text message app swooshes]
- All right, Jesus.
- All right.
You ready?
- I'm ready.
- All right.
Let's do it then.
[intense music]
Round two.
- Let's do this.
- Who is it gonna be?
- Nobody knows.
- After last night,
how do we know we can trust
anything this person says?
- All right, we're back.
- I don't see
anybody back there.
- Is that a Baby A back there?
- Oh, there is someone
sitting.
- That thing?
- Oh, yeah.
Someone.
- Is that a girl?
- Someone you recognize?
- No.
- Who is that?
- That's got to be Baby A.
You ready to figure out
what the heck is going on?
- Let's do this.
[exhales]
- Hi.
- Hi.
- Baby A?
- Yeah.
- Is that you?
- Hi. That's me.
- So mysterious.
- [sighs]
A childhood nickname.
- I'm Kamie, by the way.
- Amanda.
Nice to meet you.
- Wait, what's your name?
- Amanda.
- I heard that name before.
- Like, in regards to Alexis?
- Yeah.
- We were friends.
- Yeah, so I heard.
- Uh, we had a
huge falling-out.
- All right, so you and Alexis
used to be friends.
- Yes.
You know her as Alexis.
- Yeah?
- I know her as Nicole.
- [exhaling] Oh, my God.
- She's really... [sighs]
Not a good person at all.
- The [bleep].
- She's got so many
different profiles,
so many different names.
- Okay, so the Nikki
Facebook page that you sent us
is a real person.
That's their real profile.
- Yes.
- But Nicole, the person that
you used to be friends with
who's been talking to Jesus,
isn't the girl
in those pictures.
- Correct.
- So why did you send us
that Facebook page?
- Because I assumed that's
what she had sent him.
- How many profiles do you
know of that she has?
- I know of Alexis,
uh, Nicole, Bella.
There's probably
more than that.
- So this is Alexis.
- So I've seen
that picture before,
but I don't--
that's not who Nicole is.
- Okay, so that's not Nicole.
- No.
- Okay.
- This is a career for her.
She literally lives off
of what she does.
I'm not kidding
when I'm telling you--
- So she's a scam artist...
- Yes.
- Basically a crim--like a--
- This is what we had
a falling-out over.
- Got it, so you discovered
that she was doing this.
- I discovered she was
using pictures of my daughters
to send to these people...
- [gasps]
- Saying that this
is her daughter.
- Oh, no.
- I was...
[voice cracks] Livid.
- Oh, no.
- She also talks
to people in prison.
So my biggest concern
is these people--
I don't know who they are, A,
and what they're in there for--
have pictures of my kids.
- Oh, no.
- I'm not kidding when
I tell you it's...
it's [bleep]ed up.
[music fades]
- And why only reach out to
try to help Jesus now when--
- Because I just recently
found out about him.
Um...
- How did you find out?
- From her.
- How'd you get his number?
- From her phone.
- Do you know where she is now?
- She's around here somewhere.
- So she doesn't know that you
reached out to us, obviously.
- Mm-mm.
We haven't talked in
two to three weeks.
- Well, we don't know
how to talk to her,
'cause if she's the criminal
that you say she is,
she's probably not gonna
want to meet up with us.
- She's very narcissistic,
and if she knows that
you're talking to me,
she's gonna
come talk to you.
- Well, I'm glad
you reached out to me, Amanda.
- No problem.
I mean, I figured you deserved
to know the truth.
- Yeah.
[solemn music]
- Thank you, Amanda.
- You're welcome.
- Baby A.
- It was nice...
[laughs] Good luck.
- Thanks.
It was good to meet you.
- Y'all too.
- Well, she seemed believable.
- I didn't see that coming.
At all.
- [inhales sharply]Yeah.
- She's, like,
a professional catfish.
- Yeah.
- If this is what
she does for years,
I mean, who knows how long
she's been doing this?
- Good thing I never
gave her [bleep]ing money.
- Well, based on
what Amanda says,
it sounds like
we should text her.
This is what I'm thinking.
"So we just got
the whole story from Amanda.
"Can't imagine you have
anything to add,
so we're probably just
going to get going."
- I like that.
- Cause, you know,
the last thing she wants
is someone else telling
her side of things.
- I don't know anymore.
- You have to stand up
for yourself.
She's been wasting
a year of your time.
You don't deserve
to have your time wasted.
You deserve the truth.
♪ ♪
- You all right, man?
- [quietly] Yeah.
- ♪ Suddenly I am not
yours any longer ♪
♪ I am not yours any longer ♪
♪ Nothing ever feels like
I thought it would feel like ♪
- It's not your fault.
- ♪ Nothing ever feels like ♪
♪ I thought
it would feel like ♪
♪ ♪
- Lying about the photos
is one thing,
but it's her whole entire life.
She's a con artist.
That's--she's--
that's what she does.
- [exhales]
[phone chimes]
both: Oh.
- It worked.
"You guys can't believe
a damn thing Amanda says.
I'll meet you."
And she sends an address.
"Okay, then we will
see you soon."
[swoosh]
All right, here goes nothing.
[intriguing music]
Let's roll.
- [as Ricky Ricardo] She's got
some explaining to do.
- Let's just hope she's there.
♪ ♪
Oh, I guess it's this
little apartment complex.
- This one here?
- Super 8.
Oh, it's a hotel.
Weird.
- All right...
- Does she live here?
- This is weird.
- Yeah, right?
Feels pretty shady.
- I'm nervous again, guys.
- Yeah, let's say we're here.
"Are you in one of the rooms?"
[text message app swooshes]
- I don't like this.
- Me either.
- I guess if we just--
you guys hang out here.
Let me snoop around.
- No problem.
- See what I can figure out.
[ambient music]
♪ ♪
She could be in a r--
one of these rooms.
Maybe she works here.
I don't know.
[phone chimes]
Oh.
- Oh, great.
- 106.
All right.
Oh, it's right there.
All right, hold on.
Let me see.
[suspenseful music]
- Come on.
Let's go.
- She's got to be in her room.
♪ ♪
- Who's that?
[eerie music]
♪ ♪
- Hi.
- Hi.
- Alexis?
- Yeah.
- Or Nicole?
- Yeah.
- What should we call you?
- Nicole.
- Yeah.
- All right.
Uh, well, glad you're here.
Obviously Jesus is here.
He wants to meet you.
- Okay.
- We have some questions too.
- Okay.
- So if you're ready,
why don't you come outside?
- [stammers] Okay.
I'm ready.
- Oh, my God.
- Who's that?
[unsettling music]
- Oh, wow.
- Why don't we--
why don't we come over here?
- That's Alexis?
♪ ♪
- So Nicole...
- Mm.
- This is Jesus.
And you are the person
he's been talking to.
- Mm-hmm.
- Is that right?
- Mm-hmm.
- Okay.
So what's been going on here?
Because we got a whole
story from Amanda.
Clearly you're not the girl
in the pictures.
- No, Amanda made
the profile, okay?
- Wait, Amanda
made the profile?
- Amanda made
the profile years ago.
She was doing this and she used
to be my best friend.
She's not anymore.
- Hold on,
so you're saying
that when Jesus started
talking to Alexis,
he was actually
talking to Amanda?
- He was talking to her,
and then I took over.
- How long have
you been the profile?
- Uh, probably
talking to him, like,
a little over a year.
- So pretty much
the whole time.
- Yeah.
- And it was you
in the video chat, right?
- It was me.
- Okay, so you are the catfish.
Who's the girl
in the Alexis profile?
- That's my cousin.
Those are her pictures.
- Oh, you used pictures
of your cousin.
- Yes, that's,
quote-unquote, "Alexis."
- And she knew you were
using her pictures--or not--
- No, Amanda didn't
tell her nothing.
Amanda befriended her
like a friend.
You know, "Hey,
let's do this together."
I said okay, you know.
I agreed to it.
- And what about
this Nicole person?
- That's my daughter, Nikki.
- You used pictures
of your daughter?
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
- Does your daughter know
that you're using her pictures?
- No.
- What about your
other daughter, Alyssa,
that you told Jesus about?
- Yeah, who's Alyssa?
- Alyss--
that's Amanda's daughter.
- You said it was
your daughter.
- Yeah, but don't yell at me.
That's Amanda's daughter.
- Oh, right.
Amanda said you guys
got into a big fight
'cause you sent pictures
of her kids
to some guy in prison.
- Uh, first of all,
she's the one that gave me
the pictures to send to him.
Second of all, Amanda was--
- So you did send
pictures of her daughter
to someone in prison.
- To nobody in prison.
She was in this the whole time.
I don't know what
she's talking about.
- The bottom line is
Alexis is not real.
You're talking for a year-plus
to this young man.
And the idea was to make
a fake profile to talk to guys
to see if you could get them
to give you money?
- Yeah.
Amanda's being a total bitch
and a hater right now.
- Enough about Amanda.
You're the one here who's
telling me you have been
scamming lots of guys,
pretending to be Alexis.
Then, like--
and you're the catfish.
- I'm not innocent.
I'm far from innocent.
But don't make me look
like a [bleep] bad person
on [bleep] national TV.
'Cause I can easily just get up
and walk away real quick
and I won't care.
- So you don't care
about him at all?
- I care for him as a friend.
- You guys were saying,
"I love you."
- Like, friend feelings.
As a friend.
You can't tell a friend
you love him?
- Well, right, but you knew
that he was more in love
than just, like, a friend.
- Well, yeah, but it was just
like I wanted a friendship.
- You have to care
about him if you--you--
a year is a long time
to talk to anybody.
- Really?
I have to?
When nobody give
a [bleep] about you,
you don't gotta care
about nobody.
You don't know my life story.
You don't know what
I've been through.
I've been through
a lot of [bleep].
I've been in the foster care,
I've been adopted--
- I have too.
- I've been in and out of jail
since I was 11 years old, okay?
I've done through
a lot of [bleep], okay, Jesus?
I've been through a lot.
I been--
- I have too.
- I've had my ass dragged
from one end to the other,
okay?
If you don't want to talk to me
at the end of the [bleep] day,
oh, well, so be it.
I'm still going to be me,
I'm still going to move on,
I'm going to do me and my kids,
and that's the bottom
[bleep] line to it.
And if you believe Amanda,
then you're [bleep]ing
dumber than I thought.
- Oh, my God.
- But you lied.
- I honestly don't believe
anything that you're saying.
[tense music]
- I mean, what you did
is not okay.
Take some [bleep]ing
responsibility for yourself.
You realize what you're doing
is really [bleep]ed up.
- I'm done.
I'm done with this situation.
I'm done.
I'm gonna walk away
'cause I'm about to cuss
your ass out real quick.
- Well--
- So I'm done with this.
I don't want to talk about it.
Thank you.
Okay, I'm already done.
- Just let it be.
Just let it be, guys.
- She's obviously
in a lot of pain.
But so are a lot of people.
And it's not an excuse.
- I just want
to go home already.
- Look, I know this
has all been tough,
but for your own sake,
go see if she'll talk to you.
'Cause I don't think
she cares about us.
She doesn't--obviously--
want to hear from us.
She took advantage of you.
She needs to know why
it's messed up and wrong.
- I'm just too nice
to even say anything to anyone.
- Well, [bleep] that.
Niceness is done.
Being respectful
to other people
doesn't mean being
disrespected yourself.
That's not what that means.
Respect is a mutual thing.
And it has to be earned.
[tense music]
- All right.
- You got this.
♪ ♪
[knocking on door]
- Can we talk?
- Yeah, come in.
[ambient music]
♪ ♪
- I'm mad because you lied
to me about Alyssa.
- Yeah, and you said
you were 20...
[stirring music]
But you're not.
You're almost--
you're what?
- I'm also mad...
- 'Cause I didn't tell you--
- 'Cause you lied.
- Yeah, I know. and it was
[bleep]ed up about me,
and I do apologize, you know?
It takes a lot.
I've been through
so much [bleep] before--
- I know, I've been
through a lot too, you know?
- Mm-hmm.
- And I just think...
it's messed up, what you did.
- Well, yeah, it's pretty--
it's [bleep] up.
I know I should have told you.
- I think that's it.
That's all I have
to say right now.
- ♪ I should have
told you no ♪
- [lightly] All right.
Well, bye, Jesus.
- ♪ Got me slowly choking
on your every word ♪
♪ You're killing me slow ♪
- How'd that go?
What did you guys...
- Just...
I told her how I felt.
- Are you all right?
- Yeah.
I just told her that I really
didn't want to talk to her.
- All right.
- Well, good for you.
I'm glad you did that.
- Well, good job.
Okay, let's get out of here.
- I'm proud of you, Jesus.
♪ ♪
- ♪ We flew too close
to the sun ♪
- I think it's very clear
both of you need to work
on your happiness.
- Yeah.
- You both have been unhappy
for a long time.
- I'm just going
to focus on myself,
losing weight,
trying to get my GED.
No dating,
no nothing.
- Focus on yourself
and your own happiness...
- Yeah.
- So that
you don't have to rely on
any person or thing
to be that for you.
- Yeah.
- ♪ Close to the sun ♪
♪ ♪
[Skype call ringing]
- Jesus!
- Hey!
- Hey.
- How's it going?
- I'm doing way better.
- Oh, yeah?
- Yeah?
- I'm losing weight,
and I'm actually
seeing someone.
- Wait, so you're
dating someone in person?
- Yeah, in person.
- Who?
- Who's the lucky lady?
- Her name is Nia.
- Nia. She hot?
- [chuckling] Yeah, super hot.
- There we go.
- That's my guy.
- [giggles]
- I knew something was
different about you.
[all chuckling]
- Well, that's great.
And what about Nicole?
Do you ever talk
to her anymore?
- Honestly, I haven't talked
to her since that day.
- That's probably for the best.
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- Glad to see things
are going good for you.
Keep it up.
- Yes, sir.
both: Bye.
- Bye.
[upbeat music]
♪ ♪
Joseph meets this girl,
Sabrina, on Facebook.
- This is the girl.
This is the one
that you actually need
to settle down with.
- Wait, her daughter died?
- What?
- That's wild as [bleep].
- Yeah.
- Homey is getting played.
- That's her right there.
[suspenseful music]
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