Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 8, Episode 18 - Ryan & Micah - full transcript
Looking for love, Ryan met Micah on Tinder and thought he'd found his quarantine bae. But when Kamie and Nev start to dig, it's not long before they uncover that she may be more interested in Ryan's wallet than his heart.
- We got Ryan; he matches with this cute girl, Micah.
She Snapped naked photos.
- With the face? - Correct, face was there.
- Wow. He sent nearly $500.
- Ryan, is a trick.
- Whoa! - [gasps]
"I need to talk to you, it's about Micah."
What?
[Zoom dings]
- Oh, we got someone in the Zoom.
Who the hell are you?
[dramatic musical sting]
- Hello, everyone, and welcome back to my channel.
Today I'm gonna be showing you
how I apply my lipstick
when Nev is late.
There's the fly again. [buzzing]
[tense music]
♪ ♪
[bleep]. Ugh.
[smooching]
Smell that?
[buzzing]
It's not... it's not budging.
This fly has been in my house all morning.
[notification swoops]
[Zoom dings]
- Hi.
- There's a fly on my chandelier.
- Oh, wow. - So I'm trying to get it out.
It doesn't pay rent.
- I don't think the flyswatter is considered the best tool
for guiding flies to freedom.
- So what would you suggest?
- Mm, tough call.
[buzzing]
- It's gonna come back.
- Well, here we are. Back at it.
Completely lost track of days.
I don't even know what's real or not anymore.
- And there's nothing else to do except for be online,
and, like, try and date someone.
Like, everyone is looking for someone right now.
- Yeah, let's see what's in the old inbox.
All right, so, "Dear Nev and Kamie.
"My name is Whitney,
"and I'm a hair stylist from Detroit, Michigan.
"I'm reaching out because my friend Ryan
"has been entertaining a girl online.
"He and this girl Micah
"have been talking for about a month.
- ♪ And you lift me up off the ground ♪
♪ And your love, love keeps me going ♪
- So it's a quarantine catfish situation.
- Mm-hmm.
- "Ryan and I have been friends for a while,
"and he's the sweetest.
"He's a really nice guy,
"and I know that he's looking for a serious relationship.
"I know he likes her because they text all the time,
and he even deleted his Tinder."
- ♪ You're the only one I want, girl ♪
♪ You're the one I always needed ♪
- "But I'm beginning to think she is a catfish or something.
"I guess they're waiting to meet
"when COVID restrictions die down,
"so I thought they were FaceTiming for now,
"but they're not.
"Every time he's tried to connect with her,
"she'll suddenly become busy or the line is dead."
[static buzzing]
"They haven't been talking long,
"and already he's giving her gifts
and money."
- Oh, Ryan.
- "Ryan isn't working right now, so it's weird
"that he's using his savings
to send money to this total stranger."
- ♪ You're the only one I want, girl ♪
- "I think Ryan really believes that they will meet eventually
"and start dating, but something just feels off.
"Help!
Sincerely, Whitney."
All right. Well, let's text Whitney
and tell her to jump on in the Zoomy-Zoom.
- I will never for the life of me understand.
Why send money and gifts
to people that you have never met before
and you haven't even FaceTimed with?
Why? - Oh!
- Oh!
- Hey, Whitney! - Hey.
- What's up, Whitney? - Um, everything's up.
- How are things in Detroit these days?
- Um, things are copacetic.
Michigan in general-- um, it's not the worst,
but it's definitely not the best.
- Right.
All right, so you've got this good friend Ryan.
- Yes, my really good friend Ryan.
So Ryan, he's definitely a dater.
I would say a ladies' man,
and he's been talking to this young lady named Micah.
Cute girl, and it seemed okay at first
and I didn't think anything of it,
but after a month and a half,
they still have not FaceTimed.
And I'm just now finding this out.
I thought that they had been FaceTiming the entire time.
- Right. - It's just very fishy to me.
There's really no excuse why you can't FaceTime.
We're all allowed to.
We've all got nothing but time right now.
- Right. - Yeah.
- And presumably,
Micah lives in Detroit, right?
- Exactly.
- I think it's almost weirder
that they haven't just met up
than it is that they haven't FaceTimed.
- So she's been using the excuse of COVID,
and you know, that's really a perfect excuse 'cause...
- Yeah.
- Who could really blame anybody
for not wanting to meet up at this time?
- Right.
- It just is odd that is he so invested in her so early,
especially now that
he's already buying her gifts and giving her money.
So I just don't want him to continue to talk to somebody
that may be using him. - Right.
So have you had a talk with Ryan where you're just like,
"Ryan this feels like a catfish."
- Have you told him yet that you've contacted us?
- I let him know I emailed "Catfish,"
but I don't know if he--
I don't think he's aware of... ♪ "Catfish" ♪
[laughter]
- He doesn't know it's happening right now.
- Right. - Right.
- I feel like we should add Ryan into the mix here.
- Yeah. It's time.
- Do you wanna text him? - I'll text him.
- And you can copy and paste the link I texted you.
- Bring yo' ass in this Zoom.
- That's exactly what I typed. "Bring yo' ass."
- [laughs] - I've just seen her pictures.
I know that they talk regularly.
I just--I know that he really likes her,
and that he is willing to go the long run
if it turns out that she is who she is.
I don't think she is who she is.
- Right. [Zoom dings]
Hey.
- [exhales] - Hey, Ryan.
- Man.
- Welcome to your intervention.
You need help. - Aw, man.
- How you doing, man? What's going on?
- You look a little stressed out.
- Yeah. Thrown for quite the loop.
- So Ryan, obviously your friend Whitney
emailed us on your behalf
because, you know, she's a little concerned.
You got this girl you're talking to.
- Mm-hmm.
- And she feels like something just ain't right.
- Right.
- I'm just concerned about you.
I don't want you to get hurt. - And I appreciate that.
- So she gave us her side of the story,
but we're really curious to kind of hear from you.
What's up with this girl Micah?
Walk us through the whole relationship
and where things are with it.
- Okay, I'll tell you the whole story.
So I was on Tinder scrolling through.
Just hitting likes, whatever.
Saw her on there, liked her,
and then eventually she liked me back
and then a small conversation started.
Nothing too serious, you know?
I added her on Snapchat 'cause it was in the bio,
and we started talking.
Everything was going pretty great.
- ♪ He's in love ♪
- Got the number that way.
After that, I guess you could say
I put on the charm, you know.
- Oh. - Had a couple phone calls.
Talked at least maybe two to three times.
She seems genuine from what I can tell.
- How were those phone calls?
Were they, like, long and lovely?
- Not necessarily long.
I would try to keep it going,
but at the one time she was actually doing something.
So it was like, "All right.
I ain't really that concerned about it."
- But you guys also follow each other on Snapchat, right?
So does she post stories a lot?
- Yeah, she posts stories a lot.
- But has she ever sent you a Snap of her, like,
"Hey, Ryan. What's up, boo?"
- Like, I've gotten pictures
but not necessarily specific Snaps.
- So, like, nothing with your name in it, right?
- No.
- But she sent you pictures? - Yeah.
[tense music]
- What kind?
- [laughs] - Oh.
Um, you know, every kind.
- Hmm. With the face?
- The face was there, yeah.
- Face and parts? - Whole shebang.
- Together? - In one complete package.
- Interesting. So tell us about her.
How old is she?
- She's 21. She works at a restaurant.
- Does she have an Instagram?
She must have an Instagram, right?
- I asked her about that. I did ask.
And she said she doesn't have Instagram or Facebook.
- A 21-year-old girl does not have Instagram?
- Yeah, I was wondering about that too.
- But you think she's real? - For the most part, yeah.
- Real enough to, like, send--
I heard you might have sent some gifts or something?
- Well, I wouldn't say gifts.
It's just more like a little bito f money.
- So wait. Explain what happened there.
- She asked me like, "Hey, can you do me a favor?"
I'm like, "What's the favor?"
It was, you know, send, like, 25 or whatever,
and I'm like, "Oh, sure, fine."
- I don't know, it just doesn't seem right to me.
She playing you like you a ham.
- So you have a history, right?
You can, like, see your transactions?
- Yeah. - Can you pull 'em up?
I'm just curious. - Oh, screen share?
Sure. Okay. Boom. - All right, what do we got?
All right, so... - Aah!
- "Pretty Money."
Is that what her name is on there?
- Yeah. - So hold on a second.
Is this the first one for lunch?
- Yeah. - 26.50.
And then "For yo' hair." Another 26.50.
Plus...
wow, 167.
That's a lot. - Oh, my God.
- Plus another 150 plus 50.
By my count, you've sent just under $500.
I mean, that's not nothing.
- Yeah, it's not. [sighs]
- Yeah, she's very money oriented,
in my opinion.
I know I've never asked a man for money
and haven't even met up with him before.
- I've dealt with other women that were more money oriented.
It's not like it's every day.
It's, like, it would happen. It's just like, "Oh."
- It doesn't seem genuine to me.
- If it's all right,
can we some of the conversation between you guys
just to get a sense of... - Oh. Yeah, sure.
- You know, what that vibe is like?
- What's that?
Oh, is that a picture she sent?
- Oh, pictures that she did send, yeah.
- Okay, so that's what she looks like.
- She's cute. - Cute.
- "100, boo, please."
"No, sorry." "50, bae, dang."
"No, sorry, sweetheart."
- You know, she asked and I tell her no.
- "Boo, can you send me 300,
"'cause I was gonna try to get these socks and shoes
"and I'ma make you some videos tonight
"and we can talk.
"I know I ask for a lot, but I'm worth it,
and I'ma make it up to you. Still paying you back."
- Oh, she said she was gonna pay you back.
- No, she's trying to pay him back with some services.
- Uh, it might be with funds. You never know.
- "Funds."
- [laughs] "Can I see those boobies?"
"I don't like my boobies." - [laughs]
- "What? Let me see."
"Ugh, hold on."
And then she Snapped you a picture of her boobs?
- Correct. Correct.
That is how it went down.
- With the face? - Face was there.
♪ ♪
- Whoa.
- So you guys are obviously very flirty
and sexual at times. - Mm.
- At times. It's not all the time.
- Right.
Do you think of this as meaningful foundation
that you're building towards a real relationship,
or do you ever think like, "Ah, well,
"if it doesn't work out, no big deal.
It's been fun"?
- I think it definitely would be more foundation
than just fun.
Like, is it fun during the foundation?
Sure. But I was kinda hoping
it would go towards a long-term thing, you know?
- Where would you put your feelings towards Micah
on a scale of, like, zero to ten?
- I'm, like, a solid nine. You know?
- Wow. - Nine. That's a lot!
- Yeah.
Are you only talking to Micah right now?
- Correct. At this moment in time, yes.
- Ryan, I don't know.
I'm not in your conversations every day.
Maybe you guys do dig a little bit deeper,
but right now,
it looks like she sees you as a trick.
That's how it looks.
We don't wanna see you getting used.
- I appreciate that.
- But at the same time,
I can see how you might think she's real.
'Cause, you know, you're talking to her on the phone,
she's posting videos of herself on her Snapchat,
and she's sending you Snaps of her
that you've asked her to send--
you know, intimate photos with her face in them.
I mean, I get it.
- Could still be on OnlyFans.
It's equal-opportunity employer.
- That's true.
She could be selling her nudes online.
- [laughs] I don't think every woman is out here doing that.
- That's a good one, Kamie. If she did have an OnlyFans,
that would explain how she could send you
all of these explicit videos. She already got them out.
- Or whoever you are talking to
is getting this content
from someone who has an OnlyFans account.
- It could be either one.
- But obviously, I think we can all recognize
that there is something a little fishy
about this situation.
It doesn't feel like you know the truth.
- Not the whole truth, no.
- So I'd like to figure out
what that missing piece of this puzzle is.
- Okay. - I'm curious now.
- I am too. - All right, well, look.
I wanna dive right in to this, see what we can find.
- Okay.
- Send us anything you can find
that could be information we could research,
and hopefully we'll get one step closer
to figuring out the mystery of Micah.
- All right, all right.
- Thank you, Whitney. - Thank you, Whitney.
- You're welcome, Ryan.
- We'll talk to you guys soon. - Okay.
- Bye. - Bye.
- See you.
- I don't know. What do you think, Kamie?
- Ryan is a trick.
And for anyone who doesn't know what a trick is,
a trick is someone
who just is giving out, giving out, giving out.
It's like trick-or-treat; you go to the house
and you say, "Trick-or-treat,"
and they give you a bunch of treats.
That's what a trick is.
Ryan is a trick.
- But let's just for a moment assume
that Micah is who she says she is.
Then it raises a whole new set of questions like,
does she have a boyfriend?
Is she lying about something else that we don't know?
You know, I don't know which is better or worse:
whether she isn't the girl in the pictures
or that she is and is just avoiding him.
Either way, Ryan is getting played hard.
- ♪ All this space between us ♪
♪ We can get together ♪
♪ Oh ♪
- We're back.
- All right, so here's the sitch.
We got Ryan, 24.
He's been on Tinder, meeting, swiping.
Then a little over a month ago,
he matches with this cute girl, they start talking.
They do Snapchat, they do cell phone number.
She seems into him, he's into her.
And then all of the sudden, this girl starts talking
about how she could use a little bit of cash.
- "Pretty Money." - "Pretty Money,"
as she calls herself on the Cash App.
50 bucks for this, 20 bucks for this.
Then she's gotta buy new shoes.
I don't know. And now 500 bucks, gone.
Just, poof...into thin air.
So let's dive in to this investigation.
I have to say,
the email he just sent with the information--
exactly how I wish every email would come.
Subject, just "Micah."
And then "21," her phone number, her Snapchat, Cash App.
Love it. - Oh, my God.
- And then the pictures.
Oh, well, so this is recent, I guess,
'cause she's got a mask.
Okay.
So there she is. All the Snapchat filters.
Detroit on her pants there. You see that?
- Oh, yeah. Okay, it's a clue.
- All right, I'm gonna run a couple pictures here
and see if we get anything.
No. Okay.
Triple mirror pic.
Let's try this one.
No.
Here's the convenience store.
Nothing.
Yeah, I don't get the sense that the girl in these pictures
is any kind of famous person or a model, as cute as she is.
- OnlyFans. - Right.
So if Micah is getting this content from
someone who has an OnlyFans account,
that could explain how Ryan got nudes
with this girl's face in them.
There's no way to search OnlyFans, though, like...
- No, you would have to have a name--
you would have to have something to go off of.
- Right.
Okay, so the image search is not happening.
So let's search for her phone number.
- Oh, God.
- Oh. We got a hit.
- Kassandra Reed.
- 22. Okay.
Oh, lives in Detroit.
- Wait, there's a social profile connected to this.
- Oh, hello. Let's go to this Facebook.
Okay, could this be who he's actually talking to?
Okay, let's go through some of her posts.
- Ooh.
July 15th, "I think he think me and him got a thing!"
And then she has these emojis.
- Right. Oh, interesting. - Who is she talking about?
- Huh, could she be talking about Ryan?
- I don't know; this girl seems suspicious to me.
Wait. - Whoa.
- [gasps]
"I need to talk to you. It's about Micah."
What?
- Who is Bryanna? - Who is that?
- So hold on a second.
[suspenseful music]
That's her. - Bryanna knows something.
- So we gotta message Bryanna. All right.
"Hey, Bryanna. This is Nev from 'Catfish.'
"Wanted to ask you a couple questions.
"Can you please message me back here
or at my phone number? Thanks."
All right, so look, right now,
we have a promising lead as to who it might be,
and it's this Kassandra girl.
Obviously,
the phone number comes back to Kassandra in Detroit.
It's either Kassandra
or somehow a friend or a family member
connected to Kassandra.
In the meantime, let's check out Micah's Snapchat.
I'm kinda curious.
Whoa. Well, that's interesting.
'Cause this girl does not look like Micah.
- Um, no.
And the name comes back as Kam.
- Right. - It's not me, by the way.
Why wouldn't he mention the Animoji doesn't look the same,
and then the name is Kam?
- Hold on. Let me respond to this email.
"Hey, Ryan, are you sure you gave us the right Snap?"
Sending this.
[phone buzzing] Hold on. Got a text.
"Hey, Nev, it's Bryanna. Yes, let's talk."
Okay, so let me text her.
"Can you come in a Zoom?"
[notification pings] Oh, Ryan just emailed back.
"Yes, that's the one."
[Zoom dings]
Oh. - [gasps]
Hello. - Hey, Bryanna.
- Hi! - Hi. Wow.
- How are you? - This is...
what a royal setting you're in there.
- I know, wow. - Thank you.
- So let me explain why I messaged you.
- All right.
- So we're doing an episode now.
And there's this guy in Detroit
who thinks he's talking to some girl in Detroit named Micah.
- Okay.
- But when we ran the phone number for Micah,
it came back to a different name: Kassandra Reed.
And we found her profile on Facebook,
and we saw a comment from you saying,
"We need to talk. It's about Micah."
So what the hell's going on?
- Okay, so...
- So Micah's a real girl? - Yeah.
- That you know in person? She's real?
- Yes, she's real. - Wow.
Can I quickly just, like-- just to confirm,
I'm gonna share my desktop. - Okay.
- So that's your friend Micah?
- Yes, that's Micah. - Mm.
- Wow.
- How did the real Micah know about
Kassandra Reed to begin with?
Just when she told me about the name,
I just went to go, like, look.
- Hmm.
- So I took it upon myself--
I went on Facebook
and I searched up a Kassandra Reed from Detroit.
I found her, and that's why you see me.
I made the comments. I mean...
- Yeah, I take it Kassandra never--
you never spoke to her about it?
- Yeah, I never spoke to her about it.
- Then where do you live?
- I live in Detroit. - Oh, okay.
So you live in Detroit and Micah lives in Detroit.
- Mm-hmm. - Is the real Micah--
is she a public person?
Like, does she have a lot of followers?
- She does have, like, a following.
She does do the OnlyFans.
[tense music]
- I told you.
- Wow. - I knew it.
Because the guy that we're working with,
he's gotten nudes from Micah with her face in it.
The only way that that could be possible
is if the person who's sending the nudes is real
or knows the person or OnlyFans.
- Right.
- So I think just for our own peace of mind,
we'd like to talk to the real Micah.
- Yes. - So if you don't mind,
would you be able to text her for us?
- Mm-hmm.
- Yeah, text her so she knows it's legit.
- I just texted you Micah's number and her Instagram.
- Oh, great. That's actually super helpful.
Here, Kamie, this is her Instagram.
- Yeah, there she goes. - Mm.
- Oh, here are all the photos that she sent him.
- Mm, mm, mm.
- All right, so this is good.
I'm glad that we have this now and we can show him.
All right, so-- did you text her?
- Yes, I did text her. - All right, great.
Thank you for--
I mean, you basically solved the case for us.
And so now I guess we gotta figure out
what to do about this Kassandra girl.
- She's gotta go. She gotta go.
- For sure. Because your friend Micah,
you know, could get in trouble
if a bunch of guys are out in Detroit looking for her,
and then they see her at the grocery store.
She could end up in a really dangerous situation.
- That's true, 'cause she's not even
pretending like she's from another city.
- Right.
All right, well, thank you, Bryanna.
- Thank you so much - Yeah, not a problem.
Just get this Kassandra girl out of here.
- For sure.
All right, bye.
- Bye. - Bye.
- Wow.
Okay, so we got a huge break.
We pretty much have everything we need.
We know who the girl in the pictures is,
got her Instagram, we got her phone number.
I think what we should do now is talk to Ryan,
give him this crazy update, explain what we know,
because this imposter is out here playing Ryan
and who knows who else?
- All right, so look.
We sent a text to the real Micah.
We've obviously got a really strong lead here
with this Kassandra page.
All right, Kamie, you ready to break the bad news?
- Let's do it.
He's such a nice, optimistic guy.
I feel bad.
[Zoom dings]
[light dramatic music]
- Welcome back. - Welcome back.
- Hey, it's good to be back.
- Anything to report from your end of this?
- No. - All right, here's what's up.
We did some research. We found some stuff.
- So...good or bad?
- It feels like we're getting closer
to at least getting some answers.
All right, so I'm gonna share my screen here.
So the first thing we did was we ran all the images.
We didn't find any hits. - Okay.
- So then we ran her phone number.
And this is where things got interesting,
'cause it came back registered to someone named
Kassandra Reed.
You don't know anyone named Kassandra Reed, do you?
- Doesn't ring any bells.
- Now, there's a link.
It brought us to this profile.
Kassandra Reed. Look familiar at all?
- Nope.
- She's in Michigan. Detroit.
- Okay.
- The page, you know, looks pretty normal.
Active, she's posting stuff.
But when we looked through the comments, we saw this.
- Hmm.
- Bryanna. - Okay.
- Says "I need to talk to you. It's about Micah."
- Okay.
- Weird. - Right.
- That felt like more than a coincidence.
So we Zoomed with her and things got interesting.
- Basically, Bryanna said that
she has known Micah in real life.
They've been friends.
- And Micah is, we confirmed, the girl in the pictures.
- Okay.
- That is a real girl named Micah who lives in Detroit.
- But she said that not so long ago,
Micah's like, "I think this girl, Kassandra Reed,
has been using my pictures."
So Bryanna then takes it upon herself--
that's how she ended up
commenting on Kassandra Reed's wall, which is what we saw.
- Mm.
- She then took us and showed us
the real Micah and her Instagram.
- Okay.
- I mean, obviously, it's got all these stories
and, like, this is the real girl Micah.
[suspenseful music]
And she says there's this girl Kassandra
who's been pretending to be Micah.
♪ ♪
- ♪ Boom, it all breaks down ♪
- Ah, it's so [bleep] weird. Why would you do that?
[sighs]
Um...
- ♪ Your castle and my crown ♪
- [exhales deeply]
[bleep]'s crazy.
Wow.
- Well, there is an added piece.
Bryanna says that Micah has an OnlyFans account.
- [sighs] Jeez.
- ♪ If you loved me ♪
- [bleep].
[Zoom dings]
- Oh, we got someone in the Zoom.
[tense music]
Hey.
Whoa.
What's up?
- Micah?
- Hi.
- I'm guessing Bryanna gave you the lowdown.
- Yeah, she gave me the link. She sent me the Zoom link.
- Great, so do you know what's kinda been going on at all?
- Yeah.
And...
- Yeah. - Okay, yeah, so...
I'm like, "Okay, this is ridiculous."
So I tried to report it. So I reported it myself.
I was on Instagram like, "Don't add them,
"or if they add you, just report them,"
and da-da-da-da-da, 'cause it's not me."
The iMessage conversation had the number at the top.
So I searched it, and it came up as
some lady named Kassandra.
I think Reed was her last name.
And it said she was in Detroit.
It's just weird, like,
I even tried to write the Snapchat myself and be like,
"Okay, like, can you just take this down?
Like, what are you doing? Like, this is ridiculous."
And they never added me back.
- Is that Snapchat still active?
- I believe so. - Is that the "kmwkam"?
- Yes, yes.
- Well, he's kind of stuck right now,
but this is Ryan.
- Hey. How's it going?
- I just want, you know,
for there to not be any questions on the table.
Do you know Ryan?
- No, not that I know of. No.
- Okay, and-- - Are you single?
- Am I single? Yeah.
- Are you looking?
- Oh, yeah.
- Well, this is Ryan. - [laughs]
- Hey, Ryan. - Hey, how's it going?
- So I mean, you're a young girl.
Like, you're doing your thing, I respect it,
do whatever you have to do for yourself.
But this person could be
putting you in a really [bleep]ed up situation,
and putting you at risk.
Because what if Ryan wasn't a nice guy
and you ran into him at [bleep]ing Walgreens,
and he's like, "Hey," like, "I gave you $500"--
which, not to put Ryan out there,
but he's given the person $500, about.
- What? No.
- And he were to run into the real you out and about
and is like, "Where the [bleep] have you been?"
Like, "I've been giving you money."
It puts you in a situation.
My advice for you, woman-to-woman,
is, if you are in a place,
don't tag that you're there while you're there.
I wanna make sure that you're safe in your own city.
- Right, and I didn't even think
about what you just said, either.
I didn't think about, like--
I didn't think about that at all.
- Ryan, how are you feeling?
- I'm hot, man. I'm heated.
I'm kinda irritated, man.
It was just a waste of [bleep]ing time.
- Yeah, this is ridiculous.
- Would you be down to join us tomorrow
to confront this person? - Right.
- Definitely, 'cause I wanna figure out who it is.
- Well, maybe we should reach out to that Kam Snapchat.
Maybe it'd be a good idea to let them...
- Okay. - Sleep on it overnight.
- "This is Nev from 'Catfish.'
I'd love to talk to you and help clear some things up."
- We know you're busted, bitch. - Right, right, right, right.
All right, so we'll see what happens there.
We should be hearing back from someone sometime soon.
So I think we'll just see what happens tonight.
Ryan, you might start getting some weird messages from her.
- Oh, yeah, I hope so. I'm heated.
- Thank you, Micah, for helping us out.
- You're welcome. - We'll check back
in the morning, and hopefully,
we'll have an update and know what to do.
- Okay. - Have a good night, guys.
- Thanks, Micah. - You too.
- Thank you. Bye. - Bye, Ryan.
I mean, Ryan started up here,
and now, he's like... [imitates explosion]
- Yeah. - [bleep] sucks.
And I can see from Micah's face
that she's [bleep]ed up over this.
- Right.
- She's thinking about how maybe this person
is putting her at risk.
- Yeah. - And at the very least,
if we can find out who this person is,
see if they're doing this to other women
who are on OnlyFans and, like,
violating them and their bodies and using it
for whatever personal gain they're looking for,
we can stop this whole [bleep] from happening.
[dramatic music]
- [band vocalizing playfully]
♪ Do-do-do-do-do-do-dee ♪
- Beau, time for your diaper change.
- No. [Nev and Laura laugh]
- You're hungry? - Yeah.
- All right, first change your diaper and then eat, okay?
- No.
- Okay, can we go back? No?
We have to get back to work, Biggie.
I love you.
Mama's gotta work.
Who do you think can afford you these sweaters?
[Zoom dings]
Oh, hello. - What's up?
Where did we leave things?
So yesterday, the last thing we did was
we messaged the fake number and Snapchat.
Let me check the phone.
Nothing. Okay.
Let's talk to Ryan.
Let me text him. Hold on. - Bring him in.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
[Zoom dings]
- Hey, What's up? - Hey.
- Okay, so still no contact back from Micah.
I mean, we could follow up with a quick morning message.
- Mm-hmm. - "Good morning."
Should I do "Micah" in quotes? Yeah.
"Please don't miss this opportunity
to do the right thing."
[texting app swooshes] Okay, sent.
All right,
I'm gonna paste that same message I just texted
into a Snapchat message.
If this doesn't work, then we can message Kassandra
and drop the hammer, but--
[texting app swooshes] Oh, wait a second.
Whoa! Whoa.
Her little head just popped up.
She just opened it, so she's just looked at it.
Like, see?
She's got her little head peeking.
She's peeking. Oh! You saw that? She went away.
- Mm-hmm. - Come on, girl.
I'm gonna write her a new message.
"Just so you know,
"we spoke to and Zoomed
with the real Micah."
She is looking.
Oh, she's typing. She's typing.
- [gasps] - Here we go.
- Oh, she wrote something.
- "Fine, I'm done with this anyway.
I'll talk to you, but not ole girl."
She's saying she doesn't wanna talk to Micah...
- Right. - But you wanna use her photos
for some coin? - Right.
Well, here's what we can do. - You got a lot of nerve.
- We can say okay,
and then we can have Micah in the Zoom
but not, like, visible...
- Mm!
- So that she can see, and then, when we want to,
we can just bring her in.
- Yes, that is the plan. - Nice little trap.
- "Okay, great. Can you join our Zoom?"
- She talkin' 'bout "I'm done with this anyway."
Girl.
- Oh, okay. "What's the link?"
Great.
- But before we do that, we need to get Micah in here.
- That's true.
[tense music]
- The plot thickens.
- Hello. - Hi.
- All right, so here's what happened.
We messaged Kam's Snapchat--
you know, that Ryan's been talking to Micah on--
and she said, "Fine, I'm done with this anyway.
I'll talk to you, but not ole girl."
- Wh--she got an attitude. [laughs]
- Exactly.
- And what I think we should do is
you should be on the Zoom so you can see her.
We can keep you a non-video participant so you can see.
And then at some point, you can, like, jump back in.
- We have to have a code word,
and upon hearing that code word,
you jump in, turn your sound on and your camera,
and be like, "Boom, bitch. Hello."
- Kamie, you and I should have a chat thread going with Micah.
So if you have any questions
or things you want us to say to her
or if you're like, "Oh, bring me in, bring me in,
like, I need to"-- - Mm.
The code will be "pineapples."
If you wanna come in, just send the pineapple emoji.
That's the code.
- Okay, you want me to turn it off now?
- Yeah, I think you should, 'cause I'm about
to send her the link, okay?
- [whistles] Here we go, here we go.
- All right, I sent it to her. - So excited.
- [exhales nervously]
- I added a little...
[Zoom dings]
Oh.
[tense music]
Hi. Who the hell are you?
- Yeah, I think you should. - So excited.
- [exhales nervously] - I added a little...
[Zoom dings]
Oh.
[tense music]
Hi.
♪ ♪
Who the hell are you?
♪ ♪
Tony?
[suspenseful music]
Huh.
So are you the person
who's been Micah this whole time?
- Yeah.
- Wow. Interesting.
[notification chimes]
- Are you being for real?
- Yeah, yeah. - Do you live in Detroit?
- No. - Wait.
If you don't live in Detroit, how did you have
Micah's profile on Tinder in Detroit?
- I was in Detroit. - You were in Detroit, okay.
But you don't live in Detroit?
Do you live in Michigan? - Mm-hmm.
- Okay, so you're in the area. Okay, got it.
- Do you know a Kassandra Reed?
Because that's the name that comes up
when we ran your phone number.
- No.
- Are you a subscriber
to the real Micah's OnlyFans?
- [sighs] I was.
I kinda used her to make it seem
a little more real, you know?
It's actually, you know, a lesson.
- A lesson? - A lesson?
- A lesson for who?
- My good man right here.
It's a lesson for all the guys who want her.
Man, you can't be sending money to these girls,
to anybody on Snapchat,
anybody who you never met in person or anything like that.
[texting app swoops]
If I wouldn't have got you,
somebody would've got you, you know?
It's gonna happen. - Ah...
interesting lesson you thought you would teach.
It's quite surprising that's--
- Was it really surprising, though, bro?
- Little bit,
'cause I believed the story
that was given to me, you know?
- So have you used the Micah profile and Snapchat to, like,
talk to lots of other guys?
- That ain't the only girl I used, no.
- Oh, okay, so-- - Used plenty of girls.
- But have you talked to any other guys
the way you've talked to Ryan?
- What you mean? - Well, I mean you--
Ryan sent you 500 bucks.
- Oh, yeah.
- So are there other people sending you money too?
- Yeah. - Wow.
- So wait, why when I called
was it a girl voice that one time?
- Oh, I had a girl answer.
It was a couple of girls that I had talk, you know.
- And do you cut them in on the cash?
- Of course.
- So you got, like, a whole little operation--
- This is like a business.
- I mean, I wouldn't call it a business.
A lot of people do it, man.
- And how long have you been doing this?
- I don't know. - So a long time.
- I didn't say that. - So how long?
- I just said I don't know.
- Are you into guys? - Never.
- But you're having sexual conversations with men
in order to lure them to send you money.
- I'm a dude.
I know what a dude wants, you know?
- But what kind of lesson are you teaching him
if you're also accepting the money?
Don't you think that you're just as at fault as he is?
- I bet you it won't happen to him again.
Gonna save him some money.
I should be the good guy because I'm coming out.
Ain't nobody else gonna come out to y'all on this.
- If you really wanted to teach Ryan a lesson,
you know, you could've had him send you 50 bucks,
and then you could've said, "Hey, just so you know,
I'm a"--like, "Got you."
But you kept it going,
and you probably would've kept it going longer if, you know,
we weren't stopping it now, so, like--
- Which I-- y'all ain't ask me, like,
my whole plan, what I'm ta--
what I would do and stuff.
You know?
- Can we do that now? I mean--
- Yeah, can you do it now? - It's a lesson.
You know? I'm a good dude.
You know, it's-- it's a harmless scam.
- But you stole $500 from him.
- It's not harmless.
You're putting the girl
in the actual photos and videos at risk.
That's where I have an issue. - Listen, listen, listen.
- Because say Ryan was crazy and ran into her somewhere
and was like, "Hey," like, "You took this money from me.
You never showed up. Now I'm gonna [bleep] you up."
Now you put Micah-- the real Micah--at risk.
Period. - Do you have kids?
- Don't worry about that.
- Well, I hope that you don't have daughters,
because if you do and somebody
were to take advantage of them like that,
I'm sure you would have an issue with that.
- My daughter won't be posting no pictures like that.
There's so many guys taking these girls' pictures,
making fake pages, doing all types of stuff.
- So you have to contribute? - If I want to.
- That's so [bleep]ed up. That's so [bleep] up.
- Where I'm at with these females, like, now--
like, my baby mama that did so much [bleep] to me, you know--
a lot of girls that did a lot of [bleep]--
a lot of [bleep] to me, man.
[bleep] these hos, you know what I'm saying, like--
- That is the most disgusting thing
I have ever heard in my life.
- I am. You're damn straight.
That is a fact.
- Absolutely not, but even if I did,
that would be my choice and my prerogative as a woman.
Who are you to tell women that they should expect to have
their photos taken and shared to lure men for money?
- You're pissing me off.
- I do not mind at all.
- I think she's upset in a way that I--
- Yeah, 'cause she's a female.
- Hey, hey; badmouthing her isn't gonna help anything.
- Like I said, man, I came out.
Came clean. I mean--
[Zoom dings]
- Hey, Micah. - Who the hell?
Y'all tricked me.
- Man, I came out. Came clean.
[Zoom dings] I mean...
- Oh. Oh.
- Hey, Micah.
- Who the hell? Y'all tricked me.
- [laughs] - So you really was into this.
This was not just for fun.
You wanted this money, you got a kick out of it.
I don't know how many other girls you doing,
but you using my face, though, like...
it's one thing for me to do it.
But I'm doing it knowing that I'm doing it.
I'm not a ho.
- Really?
- So if you wouldn't have been involved in the show,
you wouldn't have came clean, 'cause you keep saying,
"Okay, I came clean,"
but you wouldn't have came clean
if the show wouldn't have been involved.
- Like, look. Real talk.
When you doing [bleep] like that,
you know, it's kinda expected.
Like, if you don't know that little scam--
everybody--that little scam [bleep] is so old.
- You had to take his money, though.
Like, I don't-- I'm not understanding.
- I'ma pay him back, though. - That's--
what is he gonna take? Your words?
- Everybody do [bleep].
It's really nothing.
- What's "nothing," though? Like, what's--
you keep saying it's nothing.
- So many people do that [bleep],
it's, like, it ain't [bleep].
[tense music]
I don't see why y'all are not thanking me.
It should be like, "Damn, bro, you a real [bleep]
for coming clean like that." - So you feel like you're
like Superman 'cause you taught him a lesson?
But you took his money.
- What you are saying is hypocritical.
- I ain't talking to you. I'm not talking to you.
You might as well get back off, bro.
Go and head on, bro. Real talk.
I don't give a [bleep].
- Wait a second.
If you did something wrong, like, you've got to--
you gotta take some heat, man.
You can't just sit there and say,
"Oh, I don't wanna-- I don't wanna talk to her."
If she's taken the time to talk to you at all,
you could learn a lot from her.
Maybe try listening and see what she has to say.
[tense music]
- As a woman, I cannot condone what has been going on
because I think that you are putting women at risk.
So I have to speak on behalf of that.
But I think that you are taking it a certain kind of way
because it's a woman asking you,
versus Nev asking you.
But you don't have to respond.
I think your silence is enough answer.
- You need to rethink your attitude towards women.
You referred to girls on OnlyFans as hos
and they deserve it.
It's just, like, basic respect.
Kamie's trying to talk to you
about some [bleep]ed up [bleep] you did,
and you were like, "You know what, forget it.
I don't wanna have that conversation."
And you shut her down.
And I don't know if that's because
you didn't like the words she was using
or if that's because she's a woman or if that's because--
- Yeah, she's a female.
- You're a [bleep]ing douchebag.
There's this thing called morality,
and clearly it's something that you lack.
- Yeah, I don't even know what that mean.
- Clearly. You should Google it.
- Yeah.
- All right, Ryan, anything from you?
- [exhales loudly]
Uh... [exhales]
Played me. You got me.
Lesson learned. All that [bleep].
You said you'll pay me back. We'll see.
That's really all I gotta [bleep]ing say.
- [laughs] We'll see, bro.
- All right.
I don't know if there's anything else
that I need to say.
- I ain't got no more talk, either.
- Bye.
Let me tell--it's--
I'm just going to just...
[light music]
[laughs]
That...person
has zero respect for women,
for human beings.
He lacks empathy.
He wasn't trying to teach a lesson.
He was trying to get paid. - He's a scammer.
He was just scamming people.
If Tony pays you back,
I think it's only fair that you split it with Micah.
Maybe...get her something or take her to dinner.
I don't know. Something.
- [laughs] We'll figure something out for sure.
[upbeat music]
- All right, bye, guys. - All right, guys.
- See you. - Bye.
- Do we think there's any chance
that Ryan and Micah will talk?
- No. - Really?
- I'm not seeing it. He's for sure into her.
Every time she came on, he was, like...
♪ ♪
- So I don't know. I feel like...
- I just don't know if it's reciprocated.
- Whoa, wait a second. - But we'll see.
- Did you see that text that just came in?
- Ooh! [gasps]
- Oh! - Oh!
- Micah just said,
"Make sure you send Ryan my Insta."
- Smiley face.
- There it is. - This could be something.
- I can't wait to see...
what we hear when we check in a couple weeks.
[upbeat music]
- ♪ Tell me that you feel the way I feel tonight ♪
♪ 'Cause all I want is you to be with me ♪
♪ Like, all the time ♪
♪ No, you don't gotta be afraid ♪
♪ Yeah, we may fall, but we won't hit the ground ♪
♪ It was always you ♪
♪ There was never, there was never anybody else ♪
- I took a bus, ten hours to meet up.
And he ghosts me. - What?
- This is the last risk I'm gonna take for us.
- It could be one of the most romantic love stories ever
or she could be talking to anyone.
Oh, there's a hit for this one.
- Oh, my God.
- Oh, we're gonna get you, Jose.
She Snapped naked photos.
- With the face? - Correct, face was there.
- Wow. He sent nearly $500.
- Ryan, is a trick.
- Whoa! - [gasps]
"I need to talk to you, it's about Micah."
What?
[Zoom dings]
- Oh, we got someone in the Zoom.
Who the hell are you?
[dramatic musical sting]
- Hello, everyone, and welcome back to my channel.
Today I'm gonna be showing you
how I apply my lipstick
when Nev is late.
There's the fly again. [buzzing]
[tense music]
♪ ♪
[bleep]. Ugh.
[smooching]
Smell that?
[buzzing]
It's not... it's not budging.
This fly has been in my house all morning.
[notification swoops]
[Zoom dings]
- Hi.
- There's a fly on my chandelier.
- Oh, wow. - So I'm trying to get it out.
It doesn't pay rent.
- I don't think the flyswatter is considered the best tool
for guiding flies to freedom.
- So what would you suggest?
- Mm, tough call.
[buzzing]
- It's gonna come back.
- Well, here we are. Back at it.
Completely lost track of days.
I don't even know what's real or not anymore.
- And there's nothing else to do except for be online,
and, like, try and date someone.
Like, everyone is looking for someone right now.
- Yeah, let's see what's in the old inbox.
All right, so, "Dear Nev and Kamie.
"My name is Whitney,
"and I'm a hair stylist from Detroit, Michigan.
"I'm reaching out because my friend Ryan
"has been entertaining a girl online.
"He and this girl Micah
"have been talking for about a month.
- ♪ And you lift me up off the ground ♪
♪ And your love, love keeps me going ♪
- So it's a quarantine catfish situation.
- Mm-hmm.
- "Ryan and I have been friends for a while,
"and he's the sweetest.
"He's a really nice guy,
"and I know that he's looking for a serious relationship.
"I know he likes her because they text all the time,
and he even deleted his Tinder."
- ♪ You're the only one I want, girl ♪
♪ You're the one I always needed ♪
- "But I'm beginning to think she is a catfish or something.
"I guess they're waiting to meet
"when COVID restrictions die down,
"so I thought they were FaceTiming for now,
"but they're not.
"Every time he's tried to connect with her,
"she'll suddenly become busy or the line is dead."
[static buzzing]
"They haven't been talking long,
"and already he's giving her gifts
and money."
- Oh, Ryan.
- "Ryan isn't working right now, so it's weird
"that he's using his savings
to send money to this total stranger."
- ♪ You're the only one I want, girl ♪
- "I think Ryan really believes that they will meet eventually
"and start dating, but something just feels off.
"Help!
Sincerely, Whitney."
All right. Well, let's text Whitney
and tell her to jump on in the Zoomy-Zoom.
- I will never for the life of me understand.
Why send money and gifts
to people that you have never met before
and you haven't even FaceTimed with?
Why? - Oh!
- Oh!
- Hey, Whitney! - Hey.
- What's up, Whitney? - Um, everything's up.
- How are things in Detroit these days?
- Um, things are copacetic.
Michigan in general-- um, it's not the worst,
but it's definitely not the best.
- Right.
All right, so you've got this good friend Ryan.
- Yes, my really good friend Ryan.
So Ryan, he's definitely a dater.
I would say a ladies' man,
and he's been talking to this young lady named Micah.
Cute girl, and it seemed okay at first
and I didn't think anything of it,
but after a month and a half,
they still have not FaceTimed.
And I'm just now finding this out.
I thought that they had been FaceTiming the entire time.
- Right. - It's just very fishy to me.
There's really no excuse why you can't FaceTime.
We're all allowed to.
We've all got nothing but time right now.
- Right. - Yeah.
- And presumably,
Micah lives in Detroit, right?
- Exactly.
- I think it's almost weirder
that they haven't just met up
than it is that they haven't FaceTimed.
- So she's been using the excuse of COVID,
and you know, that's really a perfect excuse 'cause...
- Yeah.
- Who could really blame anybody
for not wanting to meet up at this time?
- Right.
- It just is odd that is he so invested in her so early,
especially now that
he's already buying her gifts and giving her money.
So I just don't want him to continue to talk to somebody
that may be using him. - Right.
So have you had a talk with Ryan where you're just like,
"Ryan this feels like a catfish."
- Have you told him yet that you've contacted us?
- I let him know I emailed "Catfish,"
but I don't know if he--
I don't think he's aware of... ♪ "Catfish" ♪
[laughter]
- He doesn't know it's happening right now.
- Right. - Right.
- I feel like we should add Ryan into the mix here.
- Yeah. It's time.
- Do you wanna text him? - I'll text him.
- And you can copy and paste the link I texted you.
- Bring yo' ass in this Zoom.
- That's exactly what I typed. "Bring yo' ass."
- [laughs] - I've just seen her pictures.
I know that they talk regularly.
I just--I know that he really likes her,
and that he is willing to go the long run
if it turns out that she is who she is.
I don't think she is who she is.
- Right. [Zoom dings]
Hey.
- [exhales] - Hey, Ryan.
- Man.
- Welcome to your intervention.
You need help. - Aw, man.
- How you doing, man? What's going on?
- You look a little stressed out.
- Yeah. Thrown for quite the loop.
- So Ryan, obviously your friend Whitney
emailed us on your behalf
because, you know, she's a little concerned.
You got this girl you're talking to.
- Mm-hmm.
- And she feels like something just ain't right.
- Right.
- I'm just concerned about you.
I don't want you to get hurt. - And I appreciate that.
- So she gave us her side of the story,
but we're really curious to kind of hear from you.
What's up with this girl Micah?
Walk us through the whole relationship
and where things are with it.
- Okay, I'll tell you the whole story.
So I was on Tinder scrolling through.
Just hitting likes, whatever.
Saw her on there, liked her,
and then eventually she liked me back
and then a small conversation started.
Nothing too serious, you know?
I added her on Snapchat 'cause it was in the bio,
and we started talking.
Everything was going pretty great.
- ♪ He's in love ♪
- Got the number that way.
After that, I guess you could say
I put on the charm, you know.
- Oh. - Had a couple phone calls.
Talked at least maybe two to three times.
She seems genuine from what I can tell.
- How were those phone calls?
Were they, like, long and lovely?
- Not necessarily long.
I would try to keep it going,
but at the one time she was actually doing something.
So it was like, "All right.
I ain't really that concerned about it."
- But you guys also follow each other on Snapchat, right?
So does she post stories a lot?
- Yeah, she posts stories a lot.
- But has she ever sent you a Snap of her, like,
"Hey, Ryan. What's up, boo?"
- Like, I've gotten pictures
but not necessarily specific Snaps.
- So, like, nothing with your name in it, right?
- No.
- But she sent you pictures? - Yeah.
[tense music]
- What kind?
- [laughs] - Oh.
Um, you know, every kind.
- Hmm. With the face?
- The face was there, yeah.
- Face and parts? - Whole shebang.
- Together? - In one complete package.
- Interesting. So tell us about her.
How old is she?
- She's 21. She works at a restaurant.
- Does she have an Instagram?
She must have an Instagram, right?
- I asked her about that. I did ask.
And she said she doesn't have Instagram or Facebook.
- A 21-year-old girl does not have Instagram?
- Yeah, I was wondering about that too.
- But you think she's real? - For the most part, yeah.
- Real enough to, like, send--
I heard you might have sent some gifts or something?
- Well, I wouldn't say gifts.
It's just more like a little bito f money.
- So wait. Explain what happened there.
- She asked me like, "Hey, can you do me a favor?"
I'm like, "What's the favor?"
It was, you know, send, like, 25 or whatever,
and I'm like, "Oh, sure, fine."
- I don't know, it just doesn't seem right to me.
She playing you like you a ham.
- So you have a history, right?
You can, like, see your transactions?
- Yeah. - Can you pull 'em up?
I'm just curious. - Oh, screen share?
Sure. Okay. Boom. - All right, what do we got?
All right, so... - Aah!
- "Pretty Money."
Is that what her name is on there?
- Yeah. - So hold on a second.
Is this the first one for lunch?
- Yeah. - 26.50.
And then "For yo' hair." Another 26.50.
Plus...
wow, 167.
That's a lot. - Oh, my God.
- Plus another 150 plus 50.
By my count, you've sent just under $500.
I mean, that's not nothing.
- Yeah, it's not. [sighs]
- Yeah, she's very money oriented,
in my opinion.
I know I've never asked a man for money
and haven't even met up with him before.
- I've dealt with other women that were more money oriented.
It's not like it's every day.
It's, like, it would happen. It's just like, "Oh."
- It doesn't seem genuine to me.
- If it's all right,
can we some of the conversation between you guys
just to get a sense of... - Oh. Yeah, sure.
- You know, what that vibe is like?
- What's that?
Oh, is that a picture she sent?
- Oh, pictures that she did send, yeah.
- Okay, so that's what she looks like.
- She's cute. - Cute.
- "100, boo, please."
"No, sorry." "50, bae, dang."
"No, sorry, sweetheart."
- You know, she asked and I tell her no.
- "Boo, can you send me 300,
"'cause I was gonna try to get these socks and shoes
"and I'ma make you some videos tonight
"and we can talk.
"I know I ask for a lot, but I'm worth it,
and I'ma make it up to you. Still paying you back."
- Oh, she said she was gonna pay you back.
- No, she's trying to pay him back with some services.
- Uh, it might be with funds. You never know.
- "Funds."
- [laughs] "Can I see those boobies?"
"I don't like my boobies." - [laughs]
- "What? Let me see."
"Ugh, hold on."
And then she Snapped you a picture of her boobs?
- Correct. Correct.
That is how it went down.
- With the face? - Face was there.
♪ ♪
- Whoa.
- So you guys are obviously very flirty
and sexual at times. - Mm.
- At times. It's not all the time.
- Right.
Do you think of this as meaningful foundation
that you're building towards a real relationship,
or do you ever think like, "Ah, well,
"if it doesn't work out, no big deal.
It's been fun"?
- I think it definitely would be more foundation
than just fun.
Like, is it fun during the foundation?
Sure. But I was kinda hoping
it would go towards a long-term thing, you know?
- Where would you put your feelings towards Micah
on a scale of, like, zero to ten?
- I'm, like, a solid nine. You know?
- Wow. - Nine. That's a lot!
- Yeah.
Are you only talking to Micah right now?
- Correct. At this moment in time, yes.
- Ryan, I don't know.
I'm not in your conversations every day.
Maybe you guys do dig a little bit deeper,
but right now,
it looks like she sees you as a trick.
That's how it looks.
We don't wanna see you getting used.
- I appreciate that.
- But at the same time,
I can see how you might think she's real.
'Cause, you know, you're talking to her on the phone,
she's posting videos of herself on her Snapchat,
and she's sending you Snaps of her
that you've asked her to send--
you know, intimate photos with her face in them.
I mean, I get it.
- Could still be on OnlyFans.
It's equal-opportunity employer.
- That's true.
She could be selling her nudes online.
- [laughs] I don't think every woman is out here doing that.
- That's a good one, Kamie. If she did have an OnlyFans,
that would explain how she could send you
all of these explicit videos. She already got them out.
- Or whoever you are talking to
is getting this content
from someone who has an OnlyFans account.
- It could be either one.
- But obviously, I think we can all recognize
that there is something a little fishy
about this situation.
It doesn't feel like you know the truth.
- Not the whole truth, no.
- So I'd like to figure out
what that missing piece of this puzzle is.
- Okay. - I'm curious now.
- I am too. - All right, well, look.
I wanna dive right in to this, see what we can find.
- Okay.
- Send us anything you can find
that could be information we could research,
and hopefully we'll get one step closer
to figuring out the mystery of Micah.
- All right, all right.
- Thank you, Whitney. - Thank you, Whitney.
- You're welcome, Ryan.
- We'll talk to you guys soon. - Okay.
- Bye. - Bye.
- See you.
- I don't know. What do you think, Kamie?
- Ryan is a trick.
And for anyone who doesn't know what a trick is,
a trick is someone
who just is giving out, giving out, giving out.
It's like trick-or-treat; you go to the house
and you say, "Trick-or-treat,"
and they give you a bunch of treats.
That's what a trick is.
Ryan is a trick.
- But let's just for a moment assume
that Micah is who she says she is.
Then it raises a whole new set of questions like,
does she have a boyfriend?
Is she lying about something else that we don't know?
You know, I don't know which is better or worse:
whether she isn't the girl in the pictures
or that she is and is just avoiding him.
Either way, Ryan is getting played hard.
- ♪ All this space between us ♪
♪ We can get together ♪
♪ Oh ♪
- We're back.
- All right, so here's the sitch.
We got Ryan, 24.
He's been on Tinder, meeting, swiping.
Then a little over a month ago,
he matches with this cute girl, they start talking.
They do Snapchat, they do cell phone number.
She seems into him, he's into her.
And then all of the sudden, this girl starts talking
about how she could use a little bit of cash.
- "Pretty Money." - "Pretty Money,"
as she calls herself on the Cash App.
50 bucks for this, 20 bucks for this.
Then she's gotta buy new shoes.
I don't know. And now 500 bucks, gone.
Just, poof...into thin air.
So let's dive in to this investigation.
I have to say,
the email he just sent with the information--
exactly how I wish every email would come.
Subject, just "Micah."
And then "21," her phone number, her Snapchat, Cash App.
Love it. - Oh, my God.
- And then the pictures.
Oh, well, so this is recent, I guess,
'cause she's got a mask.
Okay.
So there she is. All the Snapchat filters.
Detroit on her pants there. You see that?
- Oh, yeah. Okay, it's a clue.
- All right, I'm gonna run a couple pictures here
and see if we get anything.
No. Okay.
Triple mirror pic.
Let's try this one.
No.
Here's the convenience store.
Nothing.
Yeah, I don't get the sense that the girl in these pictures
is any kind of famous person or a model, as cute as she is.
- OnlyFans. - Right.
So if Micah is getting this content from
someone who has an OnlyFans account,
that could explain how Ryan got nudes
with this girl's face in them.
There's no way to search OnlyFans, though, like...
- No, you would have to have a name--
you would have to have something to go off of.
- Right.
Okay, so the image search is not happening.
So let's search for her phone number.
- Oh, God.
- Oh. We got a hit.
- Kassandra Reed.
- 22. Okay.
Oh, lives in Detroit.
- Wait, there's a social profile connected to this.
- Oh, hello. Let's go to this Facebook.
Okay, could this be who he's actually talking to?
Okay, let's go through some of her posts.
- Ooh.
July 15th, "I think he think me and him got a thing!"
And then she has these emojis.
- Right. Oh, interesting. - Who is she talking about?
- Huh, could she be talking about Ryan?
- I don't know; this girl seems suspicious to me.
Wait. - Whoa.
- [gasps]
"I need to talk to you. It's about Micah."
What?
- Who is Bryanna? - Who is that?
- So hold on a second.
[suspenseful music]
That's her. - Bryanna knows something.
- So we gotta message Bryanna. All right.
"Hey, Bryanna. This is Nev from 'Catfish.'
"Wanted to ask you a couple questions.
"Can you please message me back here
or at my phone number? Thanks."
All right, so look, right now,
we have a promising lead as to who it might be,
and it's this Kassandra girl.
Obviously,
the phone number comes back to Kassandra in Detroit.
It's either Kassandra
or somehow a friend or a family member
connected to Kassandra.
In the meantime, let's check out Micah's Snapchat.
I'm kinda curious.
Whoa. Well, that's interesting.
'Cause this girl does not look like Micah.
- Um, no.
And the name comes back as Kam.
- Right. - It's not me, by the way.
Why wouldn't he mention the Animoji doesn't look the same,
and then the name is Kam?
- Hold on. Let me respond to this email.
"Hey, Ryan, are you sure you gave us the right Snap?"
Sending this.
[phone buzzing] Hold on. Got a text.
"Hey, Nev, it's Bryanna. Yes, let's talk."
Okay, so let me text her.
"Can you come in a Zoom?"
[notification pings] Oh, Ryan just emailed back.
"Yes, that's the one."
[Zoom dings]
Oh. - [gasps]
Hello. - Hey, Bryanna.
- Hi! - Hi. Wow.
- How are you? - This is...
what a royal setting you're in there.
- I know, wow. - Thank you.
- So let me explain why I messaged you.
- All right.
- So we're doing an episode now.
And there's this guy in Detroit
who thinks he's talking to some girl in Detroit named Micah.
- Okay.
- But when we ran the phone number for Micah,
it came back to a different name: Kassandra Reed.
And we found her profile on Facebook,
and we saw a comment from you saying,
"We need to talk. It's about Micah."
So what the hell's going on?
- Okay, so...
- So Micah's a real girl? - Yeah.
- That you know in person? She's real?
- Yes, she's real. - Wow.
Can I quickly just, like-- just to confirm,
I'm gonna share my desktop. - Okay.
- So that's your friend Micah?
- Yes, that's Micah. - Mm.
- Wow.
- How did the real Micah know about
Kassandra Reed to begin with?
Just when she told me about the name,
I just went to go, like, look.
- Hmm.
- So I took it upon myself--
I went on Facebook
and I searched up a Kassandra Reed from Detroit.
I found her, and that's why you see me.
I made the comments. I mean...
- Yeah, I take it Kassandra never--
you never spoke to her about it?
- Yeah, I never spoke to her about it.
- Then where do you live?
- I live in Detroit. - Oh, okay.
So you live in Detroit and Micah lives in Detroit.
- Mm-hmm. - Is the real Micah--
is she a public person?
Like, does she have a lot of followers?
- She does have, like, a following.
She does do the OnlyFans.
[tense music]
- I told you.
- Wow. - I knew it.
Because the guy that we're working with,
he's gotten nudes from Micah with her face in it.
The only way that that could be possible
is if the person who's sending the nudes is real
or knows the person or OnlyFans.
- Right.
- So I think just for our own peace of mind,
we'd like to talk to the real Micah.
- Yes. - So if you don't mind,
would you be able to text her for us?
- Mm-hmm.
- Yeah, text her so she knows it's legit.
- I just texted you Micah's number and her Instagram.
- Oh, great. That's actually super helpful.
Here, Kamie, this is her Instagram.
- Yeah, there she goes. - Mm.
- Oh, here are all the photos that she sent him.
- Mm, mm, mm.
- All right, so this is good.
I'm glad that we have this now and we can show him.
All right, so-- did you text her?
- Yes, I did text her. - All right, great.
Thank you for--
I mean, you basically solved the case for us.
And so now I guess we gotta figure out
what to do about this Kassandra girl.
- She's gotta go. She gotta go.
- For sure. Because your friend Micah,
you know, could get in trouble
if a bunch of guys are out in Detroit looking for her,
and then they see her at the grocery store.
She could end up in a really dangerous situation.
- That's true, 'cause she's not even
pretending like she's from another city.
- Right.
All right, well, thank you, Bryanna.
- Thank you so much - Yeah, not a problem.
Just get this Kassandra girl out of here.
- For sure.
All right, bye.
- Bye. - Bye.
- Wow.
Okay, so we got a huge break.
We pretty much have everything we need.
We know who the girl in the pictures is,
got her Instagram, we got her phone number.
I think what we should do now is talk to Ryan,
give him this crazy update, explain what we know,
because this imposter is out here playing Ryan
and who knows who else?
- All right, so look.
We sent a text to the real Micah.
We've obviously got a really strong lead here
with this Kassandra page.
All right, Kamie, you ready to break the bad news?
- Let's do it.
He's such a nice, optimistic guy.
I feel bad.
[Zoom dings]
[light dramatic music]
- Welcome back. - Welcome back.
- Hey, it's good to be back.
- Anything to report from your end of this?
- No. - All right, here's what's up.
We did some research. We found some stuff.
- So...good or bad?
- It feels like we're getting closer
to at least getting some answers.
All right, so I'm gonna share my screen here.
So the first thing we did was we ran all the images.
We didn't find any hits. - Okay.
- So then we ran her phone number.
And this is where things got interesting,
'cause it came back registered to someone named
Kassandra Reed.
You don't know anyone named Kassandra Reed, do you?
- Doesn't ring any bells.
- Now, there's a link.
It brought us to this profile.
Kassandra Reed. Look familiar at all?
- Nope.
- She's in Michigan. Detroit.
- Okay.
- The page, you know, looks pretty normal.
Active, she's posting stuff.
But when we looked through the comments, we saw this.
- Hmm.
- Bryanna. - Okay.
- Says "I need to talk to you. It's about Micah."
- Okay.
- Weird. - Right.
- That felt like more than a coincidence.
So we Zoomed with her and things got interesting.
- Basically, Bryanna said that
she has known Micah in real life.
They've been friends.
- And Micah is, we confirmed, the girl in the pictures.
- Okay.
- That is a real girl named Micah who lives in Detroit.
- But she said that not so long ago,
Micah's like, "I think this girl, Kassandra Reed,
has been using my pictures."
So Bryanna then takes it upon herself--
that's how she ended up
commenting on Kassandra Reed's wall, which is what we saw.
- Mm.
- She then took us and showed us
the real Micah and her Instagram.
- Okay.
- I mean, obviously, it's got all these stories
and, like, this is the real girl Micah.
[suspenseful music]
And she says there's this girl Kassandra
who's been pretending to be Micah.
♪ ♪
- ♪ Boom, it all breaks down ♪
- Ah, it's so [bleep] weird. Why would you do that?
[sighs]
Um...
- ♪ Your castle and my crown ♪
- [exhales deeply]
[bleep]'s crazy.
Wow.
- Well, there is an added piece.
Bryanna says that Micah has an OnlyFans account.
- [sighs] Jeez.
- ♪ If you loved me ♪
- [bleep].
[Zoom dings]
- Oh, we got someone in the Zoom.
[tense music]
Hey.
Whoa.
What's up?
- Micah?
- Hi.
- I'm guessing Bryanna gave you the lowdown.
- Yeah, she gave me the link. She sent me the Zoom link.
- Great, so do you know what's kinda been going on at all?
- Yeah.
And...
- Yeah. - Okay, yeah, so...
I'm like, "Okay, this is ridiculous."
So I tried to report it. So I reported it myself.
I was on Instagram like, "Don't add them,
"or if they add you, just report them,"
and da-da-da-da-da, 'cause it's not me."
The iMessage conversation had the number at the top.
So I searched it, and it came up as
some lady named Kassandra.
I think Reed was her last name.
And it said she was in Detroit.
It's just weird, like,
I even tried to write the Snapchat myself and be like,
"Okay, like, can you just take this down?
Like, what are you doing? Like, this is ridiculous."
And they never added me back.
- Is that Snapchat still active?
- I believe so. - Is that the "kmwkam"?
- Yes, yes.
- Well, he's kind of stuck right now,
but this is Ryan.
- Hey. How's it going?
- I just want, you know,
for there to not be any questions on the table.
Do you know Ryan?
- No, not that I know of. No.
- Okay, and-- - Are you single?
- Am I single? Yeah.
- Are you looking?
- Oh, yeah.
- Well, this is Ryan. - [laughs]
- Hey, Ryan. - Hey, how's it going?
- So I mean, you're a young girl.
Like, you're doing your thing, I respect it,
do whatever you have to do for yourself.
But this person could be
putting you in a really [bleep]ed up situation,
and putting you at risk.
Because what if Ryan wasn't a nice guy
and you ran into him at [bleep]ing Walgreens,
and he's like, "Hey," like, "I gave you $500"--
which, not to put Ryan out there,
but he's given the person $500, about.
- What? No.
- And he were to run into the real you out and about
and is like, "Where the [bleep] have you been?"
Like, "I've been giving you money."
It puts you in a situation.
My advice for you, woman-to-woman,
is, if you are in a place,
don't tag that you're there while you're there.
I wanna make sure that you're safe in your own city.
- Right, and I didn't even think
about what you just said, either.
I didn't think about, like--
I didn't think about that at all.
- Ryan, how are you feeling?
- I'm hot, man. I'm heated.
I'm kinda irritated, man.
It was just a waste of [bleep]ing time.
- Yeah, this is ridiculous.
- Would you be down to join us tomorrow
to confront this person? - Right.
- Definitely, 'cause I wanna figure out who it is.
- Well, maybe we should reach out to that Kam Snapchat.
Maybe it'd be a good idea to let them...
- Okay. - Sleep on it overnight.
- "This is Nev from 'Catfish.'
I'd love to talk to you and help clear some things up."
- We know you're busted, bitch. - Right, right, right, right.
All right, so we'll see what happens there.
We should be hearing back from someone sometime soon.
So I think we'll just see what happens tonight.
Ryan, you might start getting some weird messages from her.
- Oh, yeah, I hope so. I'm heated.
- Thank you, Micah, for helping us out.
- You're welcome. - We'll check back
in the morning, and hopefully,
we'll have an update and know what to do.
- Okay. - Have a good night, guys.
- Thanks, Micah. - You too.
- Thank you. Bye. - Bye, Ryan.
I mean, Ryan started up here,
and now, he's like... [imitates explosion]
- Yeah. - [bleep] sucks.
And I can see from Micah's face
that she's [bleep]ed up over this.
- Right.
- She's thinking about how maybe this person
is putting her at risk.
- Yeah. - And at the very least,
if we can find out who this person is,
see if they're doing this to other women
who are on OnlyFans and, like,
violating them and their bodies and using it
for whatever personal gain they're looking for,
we can stop this whole [bleep] from happening.
[dramatic music]
- [band vocalizing playfully]
♪ Do-do-do-do-do-do-dee ♪
- Beau, time for your diaper change.
- No. [Nev and Laura laugh]
- You're hungry? - Yeah.
- All right, first change your diaper and then eat, okay?
- No.
- Okay, can we go back? No?
We have to get back to work, Biggie.
I love you.
Mama's gotta work.
Who do you think can afford you these sweaters?
[Zoom dings]
Oh, hello. - What's up?
Where did we leave things?
So yesterday, the last thing we did was
we messaged the fake number and Snapchat.
Let me check the phone.
Nothing. Okay.
Let's talk to Ryan.
Let me text him. Hold on. - Bring him in.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
[Zoom dings]
- Hey, What's up? - Hey.
- Okay, so still no contact back from Micah.
I mean, we could follow up with a quick morning message.
- Mm-hmm. - "Good morning."
Should I do "Micah" in quotes? Yeah.
"Please don't miss this opportunity
to do the right thing."
[texting app swooshes] Okay, sent.
All right,
I'm gonna paste that same message I just texted
into a Snapchat message.
If this doesn't work, then we can message Kassandra
and drop the hammer, but--
[texting app swooshes] Oh, wait a second.
Whoa! Whoa.
Her little head just popped up.
She just opened it, so she's just looked at it.
Like, see?
She's got her little head peeking.
She's peeking. Oh! You saw that? She went away.
- Mm-hmm. - Come on, girl.
I'm gonna write her a new message.
"Just so you know,
"we spoke to and Zoomed
with the real Micah."
She is looking.
Oh, she's typing. She's typing.
- [gasps] - Here we go.
- Oh, she wrote something.
- "Fine, I'm done with this anyway.
I'll talk to you, but not ole girl."
She's saying she doesn't wanna talk to Micah...
- Right. - But you wanna use her photos
for some coin? - Right.
Well, here's what we can do. - You got a lot of nerve.
- We can say okay,
and then we can have Micah in the Zoom
but not, like, visible...
- Mm!
- So that she can see, and then, when we want to,
we can just bring her in.
- Yes, that is the plan. - Nice little trap.
- "Okay, great. Can you join our Zoom?"
- She talkin' 'bout "I'm done with this anyway."
Girl.
- Oh, okay. "What's the link?"
Great.
- But before we do that, we need to get Micah in here.
- That's true.
[tense music]
- The plot thickens.
- Hello. - Hi.
- All right, so here's what happened.
We messaged Kam's Snapchat--
you know, that Ryan's been talking to Micah on--
and she said, "Fine, I'm done with this anyway.
I'll talk to you, but not ole girl."
- Wh--she got an attitude. [laughs]
- Exactly.
- And what I think we should do is
you should be on the Zoom so you can see her.
We can keep you a non-video participant so you can see.
And then at some point, you can, like, jump back in.
- We have to have a code word,
and upon hearing that code word,
you jump in, turn your sound on and your camera,
and be like, "Boom, bitch. Hello."
- Kamie, you and I should have a chat thread going with Micah.
So if you have any questions
or things you want us to say to her
or if you're like, "Oh, bring me in, bring me in,
like, I need to"-- - Mm.
The code will be "pineapples."
If you wanna come in, just send the pineapple emoji.
That's the code.
- Okay, you want me to turn it off now?
- Yeah, I think you should, 'cause I'm about
to send her the link, okay?
- [whistles] Here we go, here we go.
- All right, I sent it to her. - So excited.
- [exhales nervously]
- I added a little...
[Zoom dings]
Oh.
[tense music]
Hi. Who the hell are you?
- Yeah, I think you should. - So excited.
- [exhales nervously] - I added a little...
[Zoom dings]
Oh.
[tense music]
Hi.
♪ ♪
Who the hell are you?
♪ ♪
Tony?
[suspenseful music]
Huh.
So are you the person
who's been Micah this whole time?
- Yeah.
- Wow. Interesting.
[notification chimes]
- Are you being for real?
- Yeah, yeah. - Do you live in Detroit?
- No. - Wait.
If you don't live in Detroit, how did you have
Micah's profile on Tinder in Detroit?
- I was in Detroit. - You were in Detroit, okay.
But you don't live in Detroit?
Do you live in Michigan? - Mm-hmm.
- Okay, so you're in the area. Okay, got it.
- Do you know a Kassandra Reed?
Because that's the name that comes up
when we ran your phone number.
- No.
- Are you a subscriber
to the real Micah's OnlyFans?
- [sighs] I was.
I kinda used her to make it seem
a little more real, you know?
It's actually, you know, a lesson.
- A lesson? - A lesson?
- A lesson for who?
- My good man right here.
It's a lesson for all the guys who want her.
Man, you can't be sending money to these girls,
to anybody on Snapchat,
anybody who you never met in person or anything like that.
[texting app swoops]
If I wouldn't have got you,
somebody would've got you, you know?
It's gonna happen. - Ah...
interesting lesson you thought you would teach.
It's quite surprising that's--
- Was it really surprising, though, bro?
- Little bit,
'cause I believed the story
that was given to me, you know?
- So have you used the Micah profile and Snapchat to, like,
talk to lots of other guys?
- That ain't the only girl I used, no.
- Oh, okay, so-- - Used plenty of girls.
- But have you talked to any other guys
the way you've talked to Ryan?
- What you mean? - Well, I mean you--
Ryan sent you 500 bucks.
- Oh, yeah.
- So are there other people sending you money too?
- Yeah. - Wow.
- So wait, why when I called
was it a girl voice that one time?
- Oh, I had a girl answer.
It was a couple of girls that I had talk, you know.
- And do you cut them in on the cash?
- Of course.
- So you got, like, a whole little operation--
- This is like a business.
- I mean, I wouldn't call it a business.
A lot of people do it, man.
- And how long have you been doing this?
- I don't know. - So a long time.
- I didn't say that. - So how long?
- I just said I don't know.
- Are you into guys? - Never.
- But you're having sexual conversations with men
in order to lure them to send you money.
- I'm a dude.
I know what a dude wants, you know?
- But what kind of lesson are you teaching him
if you're also accepting the money?
Don't you think that you're just as at fault as he is?
- I bet you it won't happen to him again.
Gonna save him some money.
I should be the good guy because I'm coming out.
Ain't nobody else gonna come out to y'all on this.
- If you really wanted to teach Ryan a lesson,
you know, you could've had him send you 50 bucks,
and then you could've said, "Hey, just so you know,
I'm a"--like, "Got you."
But you kept it going,
and you probably would've kept it going longer if, you know,
we weren't stopping it now, so, like--
- Which I-- y'all ain't ask me, like,
my whole plan, what I'm ta--
what I would do and stuff.
You know?
- Can we do that now? I mean--
- Yeah, can you do it now? - It's a lesson.
You know? I'm a good dude.
You know, it's-- it's a harmless scam.
- But you stole $500 from him.
- It's not harmless.
You're putting the girl
in the actual photos and videos at risk.
That's where I have an issue. - Listen, listen, listen.
- Because say Ryan was crazy and ran into her somewhere
and was like, "Hey," like, "You took this money from me.
You never showed up. Now I'm gonna [bleep] you up."
Now you put Micah-- the real Micah--at risk.
Period. - Do you have kids?
- Don't worry about that.
- Well, I hope that you don't have daughters,
because if you do and somebody
were to take advantage of them like that,
I'm sure you would have an issue with that.
- My daughter won't be posting no pictures like that.
There's so many guys taking these girls' pictures,
making fake pages, doing all types of stuff.
- So you have to contribute? - If I want to.
- That's so [bleep]ed up. That's so [bleep] up.
- Where I'm at with these females, like, now--
like, my baby mama that did so much [bleep] to me, you know--
a lot of girls that did a lot of [bleep]--
a lot of [bleep] to me, man.
[bleep] these hos, you know what I'm saying, like--
- That is the most disgusting thing
I have ever heard in my life.
- I am. You're damn straight.
That is a fact.
- Absolutely not, but even if I did,
that would be my choice and my prerogative as a woman.
Who are you to tell women that they should expect to have
their photos taken and shared to lure men for money?
- You're pissing me off.
- I do not mind at all.
- I think she's upset in a way that I--
- Yeah, 'cause she's a female.
- Hey, hey; badmouthing her isn't gonna help anything.
- Like I said, man, I came out.
Came clean. I mean--
[Zoom dings]
- Hey, Micah. - Who the hell?
Y'all tricked me.
- Man, I came out. Came clean.
[Zoom dings] I mean...
- Oh. Oh.
- Hey, Micah.
- Who the hell? Y'all tricked me.
- [laughs] - So you really was into this.
This was not just for fun.
You wanted this money, you got a kick out of it.
I don't know how many other girls you doing,
but you using my face, though, like...
it's one thing for me to do it.
But I'm doing it knowing that I'm doing it.
I'm not a ho.
- Really?
- So if you wouldn't have been involved in the show,
you wouldn't have came clean, 'cause you keep saying,
"Okay, I came clean,"
but you wouldn't have came clean
if the show wouldn't have been involved.
- Like, look. Real talk.
When you doing [bleep] like that,
you know, it's kinda expected.
Like, if you don't know that little scam--
everybody--that little scam [bleep] is so old.
- You had to take his money, though.
Like, I don't-- I'm not understanding.
- I'ma pay him back, though. - That's--
what is he gonna take? Your words?
- Everybody do [bleep].
It's really nothing.
- What's "nothing," though? Like, what's--
you keep saying it's nothing.
- So many people do that [bleep],
it's, like, it ain't [bleep].
[tense music]
I don't see why y'all are not thanking me.
It should be like, "Damn, bro, you a real [bleep]
for coming clean like that." - So you feel like you're
like Superman 'cause you taught him a lesson?
But you took his money.
- What you are saying is hypocritical.
- I ain't talking to you. I'm not talking to you.
You might as well get back off, bro.
Go and head on, bro. Real talk.
I don't give a [bleep].
- Wait a second.
If you did something wrong, like, you've got to--
you gotta take some heat, man.
You can't just sit there and say,
"Oh, I don't wanna-- I don't wanna talk to her."
If she's taken the time to talk to you at all,
you could learn a lot from her.
Maybe try listening and see what she has to say.
[tense music]
- As a woman, I cannot condone what has been going on
because I think that you are putting women at risk.
So I have to speak on behalf of that.
But I think that you are taking it a certain kind of way
because it's a woman asking you,
versus Nev asking you.
But you don't have to respond.
I think your silence is enough answer.
- You need to rethink your attitude towards women.
You referred to girls on OnlyFans as hos
and they deserve it.
It's just, like, basic respect.
Kamie's trying to talk to you
about some [bleep]ed up [bleep] you did,
and you were like, "You know what, forget it.
I don't wanna have that conversation."
And you shut her down.
And I don't know if that's because
you didn't like the words she was using
or if that's because she's a woman or if that's because--
- Yeah, she's a female.
- You're a [bleep]ing douchebag.
There's this thing called morality,
and clearly it's something that you lack.
- Yeah, I don't even know what that mean.
- Clearly. You should Google it.
- Yeah.
- All right, Ryan, anything from you?
- [exhales loudly]
Uh... [exhales]
Played me. You got me.
Lesson learned. All that [bleep].
You said you'll pay me back. We'll see.
That's really all I gotta [bleep]ing say.
- [laughs] We'll see, bro.
- All right.
I don't know if there's anything else
that I need to say.
- I ain't got no more talk, either.
- Bye.
Let me tell--it's--
I'm just going to just...
[light music]
[laughs]
That...person
has zero respect for women,
for human beings.
He lacks empathy.
He wasn't trying to teach a lesson.
He was trying to get paid. - He's a scammer.
He was just scamming people.
If Tony pays you back,
I think it's only fair that you split it with Micah.
Maybe...get her something or take her to dinner.
I don't know. Something.
- [laughs] We'll figure something out for sure.
[upbeat music]
- All right, bye, guys. - All right, guys.
- See you. - Bye.
- Do we think there's any chance
that Ryan and Micah will talk?
- No. - Really?
- I'm not seeing it. He's for sure into her.
Every time she came on, he was, like...
♪ ♪
- So I don't know. I feel like...
- I just don't know if it's reciprocated.
- Whoa, wait a second. - But we'll see.
- Did you see that text that just came in?
- Ooh! [gasps]
- Oh! - Oh!
- Micah just said,
"Make sure you send Ryan my Insta."
- Smiley face.
- There it is. - This could be something.
- I can't wait to see...
what we hear when we check in a couple weeks.
[upbeat music]
- ♪ Tell me that you feel the way I feel tonight ♪
♪ 'Cause all I want is you to be with me ♪
♪ Like, all the time ♪
♪ No, you don't gotta be afraid ♪
♪ Yeah, we may fall, but we won't hit the ground ♪
♪ It was always you ♪
♪ There was never, there was never anybody else ♪
- I took a bus, ten hours to meet up.
And he ghosts me. - What?
- This is the last risk I'm gonna take for us.
- It could be one of the most romantic love stories ever
or she could be talking to anyone.
Oh, there's a hit for this one.
- Oh, my God.
- Oh, we're gonna get you, Jose.