Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 8, Episode 19 - Dianela & Jose - full transcript
Dianela flees her home in Venezuela to start a new life with a man she's been in a relationship with for years but still has never met.
- Dianela and José have been
talking for four years.
- I took a bus 10 hours
to meet up,
and he totally ghost me.
- What?
- This is the last risk
I'm gonna take for us.
- It could be one of the most
romantic love stories ever,
or she could be talking
to anyone.
- Mm.
- Oh, there's a hit
for this one.
- Oh, my God.
- Why is he playing
these games?
- We gonna get you, José.
- Oh, my God.
[dramatic music]
- Hey, guys.
Nev here.
And "Catfish" quarantine
continues,
but now at my dad's house
in Long Island.
I've got a grumpy baby here
who just woke up from a nap.
- You grumpy?
- No.
- Oh!
Are you a little tired?
- Welcome to my new apartment!
I'm so excited.
Everything is not done,
but I'm slowly
but surely getting there.
Biggie is loving his new home.
As long as Biggie's happy,
I'm happy.
- So let's text Kamie.
"Hey, hey, hey!"
♪ ♪
- ♪ Look what I've got ♪
"Let's werk."
[ascending tone]
[chiming]
- Oh--whoa!
- Welcome to "MTV Cribs."
- What is that apartment?
That's not your normal spot.
- No, this is my new place!
Isn't she cute?
- Is that one
of those Zoom backgrounds?
- Don't play with me.
You have a different setup too.
- That's right.
I am now stationed out
of my father's bedroom.
We've taken over his house
because me, Laura, and the kids
are all upstairs.
His bedroom, which is the
only place he has for privacy
is now "Catfish" HQ.
- [laughs]
- Anyway, why don't we see
if we got some email?
Oh, we do.
Ooh!
"I've already put myself
in danger
more than once for this guy."
Wow, I don't know
what that means.
- I don't know what that means,
and I'm afraid to find out.
- Yeah, "Hola.
My name is Dianela.
"I've been talking
to a guy named José
"that I met while playing
video games four years ago.
- Huh.
- He's everything
I want in a guy..."
- ♪ Lose control ♪
- "Smart, ambitious,
and really cute."
- ♪ You make me wanna
lose my mind ♪
- "But what I like most
is how much he supports me."
- ♪ I'm obsessed
with the thought of you ♪
- "He even stood by me when my
mom unexpectedly passed away."
- Aw.
- "But in four years,
we have never video chatted
"or met up.
"When we started talking,
we both lived in different
cities in Venezuela."
- What?
- Crazy.
- "Things are dangerous
in Venezuela,
and we both have now
sought asylum in the U.S."
This is like a wild
international love story
out of a movie.
- Yeah.
- "I was excited to surprise
him when I arrived in the U.S."
- ♪ You make me wanna
lose control ♪
- "But when I pushed
to meet up,
he told me he wanted nothing
to do with me."
- ♪ Wanna lose my mind ♪
- "I was devastated
and heartbroken.
"Then about two months ago,
"he reached back out to me
to rekindle things,
"but I was too stressed
with getting my legal status
"to deal with him.
"Now that I'm settled,
I realize I still
have feelings for José."
- ♪ Can't get you
outta my mind ♪
- "And that's why
I'm hoping you'll help me.
Looking forward
to hearing from you, Dianela."
- ♪ Love the thought of you ♪
- Jeez.
- Something doesn't feel right.
- You'd think
if you both moved here
under similar conditions
which were less than ideal,
even if it's not romantic,
you'd think he'd still
just want to have a friendship,
but he wanted nothing
to do with her.
- Something's not right
with this guy.
I think either he was never
from Venezuela,
or maybe he is from Venezuela,
but he never came to the U.S.
- Right.
- I don't feel good about it.
- I'd like to just
get the story firsthand
from the source.
- ♪ Dianela, dressed in yella ♪
♪ Went upstairs
to kiss the fella ♪
Hello!
- Hi.
- Aw, you're so pretty.
- Thank you.
You are too.
- Look at that
little chihuahua.
- Ah, that's my little baby.
That's a mini pinscher.
It's not a chihuahua.
- Oh.
- He's my partner in crime.
- All right, so I wanna know
all about you.
You've got
a really interesting story.
First, I just wanna know
about you.
- Well, I'm 22 years old.
I was born and raised
in Maracaibo, Venezuela.
And then, I moved to
the United States last year...
- Memphis, from Venezuela.
I feel like that must be like
the craziest
culture shock ever.
- Yeah, my dad
had some friends here.
And you know, it's good
to have someone
who you can count on.
- Yeah.
No, I get that.
- So tell us about José,
and how you guys met,
and kind of the whole story.
- Well, I met José in 2017
playing "Black Ops III"
on the PS4.
- Wow.
- Yeah, I like video games.
So we played several times
and we started chatting.
- So like text chat, or was
that like with your headset?
- With my headset, yeah.
- Got it.
So you heard his voice?
- Yeah.
- He was speaking Spanish?
- Yeah, Spanish.
And we became friends
really quick.
We were both
from the same country,
but he's from Mérida
and I'm from Maracaibo,
which is like 10 hours apart
by car.
- Whoa.
- And he asked for my number
and we started talking
every day.
At the time was
my mom's passing.
I just shut down myself
and I didn't want to,
you know, to talk to anybody
and he was the only person
I talked to.
He was kind of
like a rock to me.
He just had the right words
to make me feel better,
so he became like real, real,
really special to me.
And I felt a real strong
connection with him
that I didn't feel
with anybody else.
So I started
catching feelings for him,
and José told me
there was a chance
of us meeting up
at the beginning of 2018.
And when José told me that,
like my heart,
it started jumping.
- But then why didn't you guys
end up meeting up?
- Well, when the time
was getting closer,
he starting acting
a little bit weird.
I asked what was wrong,
and he told me that
all this time
we've been talking,
he had a girlfriend.
- Oh.
- So I got really upset
and I was like,
"You're not gonna break
my heart and get away with it.
"We're gonna meet up
"and we're gonna
clear things up face-to-face.
"Right now is the moment.
I'm going, so please be there
to pick me up."
- You were gonna fly
to where he lives?
- No, I took a bus to there.
- 10 hours?
- And it's very dangerous
to have 19-year-old
to travel alone in a bus.
I love my country,
but it's dangerous.
- But a 10-hour bus ride?
- Yeah, I did that.
[dramatic musical sting]
And when I got there,
it was getting dark
and he was not there.
I called him.
He didn't reply.
I text him,
and he didn't show up.
He totally ghost me, and--
- That's insane.
- Yeah, it is.
- I'm really trying
to wrap my brain around
why we're even still talking
about this guy,
because if he could leave you
in the middle of the night--
- I put myself in danger.
- Right!
- Well, after he didn't
show up, I was so scared.
I bought a ticket again
to Maracaibo
very, very late at night.
- You took this bus
for 20 hours?
Over 20 hours?
- Yeah.
When I was getting closer
to Maracaibo,
I received a text,
and it was him.
He told me he got robbed.
- Oh, God.
- I didn't believe him.
I was totally heartbroken.
It shattered me,
and I didn't wanna talk to him
or see him anymore.
- Understandably so.
- So that's awful.
- Yeah.
- When was that?
- That was on the beginning
of 2018.
- So how did you get from that
to then talking to him again?
- On my birthday,
he sent me a gift.
It had, like, a lot
of balloons and flowers
and some empanadas
and tequeños.
- That's nice.
- Yeah.
- That's cute.
Oh, so this guy, I mean, look.
As much as I wanna
hate this guy,
I have to admit
that is very nice.
- It is the most precious gift
I have ever received.
And so, I text him,
say, "Thank you.
It was so sweet of you."
And after that,
we started talking again.
- So did the gift have
like a card on it
with his name and address?
- Yeah, with his name.
- No address?
- No, no address.
- How did he know your address?
- Because I told him.
- Okay, so you texted him
and you said thank you.
- Yeah, and so,
we started talking again
and about the possibility
of us meeting up
by the end of the year.
- That never happened.
- No, that never happened
because by the end of 2018,
when the time was
getting closer to meeting up,
he told me that his new job
needed him to come
to the States.
- What was his new job?
- Computer engineering.
So I was kind of sad,
but I told him,
"Well, I have a visa,
so we can just meet there."
And he was like,
"That's a great idea."
And the next year,
the following year,
my dad came here
to Memphis, Tennessee,
so I decided that
it was the moment 'cause
obviously the main reason was
the situation in Venezuela,
but I was also
following my heart
to go meet the guy
that I've been caring of.
- Wow.
- And when I got
to Miami's airport--
- Was he in Miami?
- Yeah, he was in Miami.
I told him, "Maybe our time
was not in Venezuela.
Maybe right now is the moment.
Let's just meet up."
And he told me he didn't want
anything to do with me
and that he didn't want
to see me.
- Why?
What was his explanation?
- He just said he didn't
feel interested anymore.
He just didn't care,
and at that moment,
I felt so heartbroken.
I put myself out there for you.
Like this is the second time.
- You've risked it all
to meet him,
but it doesn't feel like he's
doing the same thing for you.
- Yeah.
- So why him?
- I honestly haven't felt
the connection I felt with him
with anybody.
I can talk to him like I used
to talk with my mom, you know?
[solemn music]
And I haven't felt that again.
- Wow.
- He reached out to me
two months ago.
Now it was him
who wanted to meet me,
but I was honestly
too heartbroken.
I just couldn't forget
everything I went through.
- Yeah.
- But now is the moment
that I feel like
this is the last shot,
the last risk I'm gonna take
for us, for me
'cause it's been a lot,
you know?
- Like why haven't you
FaceTimed or video chatted?
How has that not happened?
- Well, because he told me once
that his camera
was not working, and...
$2 per month.
- Per month, or per week?
- Per month.
[dramatic musical sting]
Two dollars.
- Yeah, what can you get?
That's nothing.
- Nothing!
- Wow.
- There are a lot of people
starving and stuff.
It is not affordable
to buy a new phone
or fix your camera, you know?
- Right, did you ever get
his social media?
Like did you know
what he looked like?
- I didn't have
the social media
because he told me
he didn't use that.
- Have you seen a lot
of pictures of him?
Or do have some, at least one
that you can show us now?
- Yeah, of course.
- Oh, here we go.
- Drumroll, please.
I wanna see how hot he is.
- This is him.
- Oh.
- He is hot.
- [laughs]
Okay--wait.
His name is José?
- Yeah, José Larreal.
- Why does his necklace
have an R on it?
- Oh, my God.
I didn't figure that out.
- Okay.
- Oh.
- Wow, some serious style.
- Well, Dianela, I don't know.
What if he is a catfish?
Like then what?
- I'll be heartbroken.
He knows that I don't do lies,
and if he's not
who I think he is,
I will be heartbroken.
So heartbroken.
- But if it is him, you'll
be willing to forgive him
for all of this?
- Yes. Yes!
- Wow.
- We're gonna do some research,
see if we can find out anything
about José.
Obviously, you'll send us
his phone number
and the pictures you have
for him.
- We will get
to the bottom of this.
- Yeah, Dianela,
we'll talk to you soon.
- Okay, great.
- Bye.
- Bye-bye, ciao.
- All right, wow.
- Yeah, forgive me.
I'm currently on Amazon
ordering red flags
because there are so many
red flags in this story.
- There's so many missed
moments and opportunities
for what feels like
could be true love.
- I don't like the fact that
it feels like Dianela is
chasing this man
around the world
and he keeps playing her out.
- On one hand,
this feels like it could be
one of the most amazing,
romantic love stories ever,
and on the other hand,
it could be a huge,
devastating deceit.
[exciting music]
- Hi, Kamie.
- Hey!
- Hey, girl.
- Hey.
Oh, I was about to do
my episode with Cleo.
- Cleo, tell her what
you've been doing this week.
- Ooh.
- Wait, so here, I'll hold it.
- This is a face,
house, mouse, unicorn.
- A face, house,
mouse, unicorn?
You're so funny.
I love it.
- Yeah, it's really good.
both: [blows raspberries]
[laughter]
- All right, party's over.
- I love arts and crafts
with the Schulmans.
It's my favorite part
about this show.
- All right, so basically,
here's our situation.
Dianela and José met in
Venezuela through PlayStation.
They became friends
and shortly after that,
her mom died, and
she was going through a lot,
and he was super there
for her.
And then after like a year,
they were gonna meet up.
And she went,
and he ghosted her
after she rode a bus
all day long.
- I'm not getting on a bus 20
hours for this mother[bleep].
- That's crazy that
she took a bus that far.
Then he moved to Miami,
and then she moved to Memphis,
fleeing from Venezuela
as refugees.
And it's like she's obviously
ready to find out
what the hell's been
going on this whole time.
- For the past four years.
- And if there's any potential
future for them or not.
- [sighs]
I don't know.
- So let's just take
a quick look over here.
Dianela sent us a new email.
All right, "Hey, Nev and Kamie.
Gracias for helping me."
- No problem.
- "Here is all the information
I have for José.
He lives in Miami, Florida.
He studied engineering."
His current phone number and
his full name, José Larreal.
- So are we gonna assume
that his middle name
begins with an R?
- The guy in the pictures
Dianela sent us,
you can see
his diamond R necklace.
- It is weird.
- You wanna just start
with a photo search?
- I'm very concerned.
- This one doesn't look like
it's a hit.
- [sighs]
- Let's try this one.
Hmm, nothing.
So let's search this photo
of him in his red shirt.
- Oh, God.
- Hold on.
Whoa, check it out.
On the very bottom.
You see that?
- [gasps]
You can see his @ right there.
Raumi--
- Raumir.
- With the R.
R name.
I told you.
- Oh, my God.
So let's go to Instagram.
- Oh, [bleep].
- There's an account.
- These are all that guy.
- Oh, wow!
100,000 followers.
- He's fabulous.
With the pride flag and all.
I know that's right.
I love it.
I'm here for it.
- I mean, I like
this guy's style a lot.
- But his name is not José.
- He's probably not the guy
Dianela is talking to.
This definitely changes things.
- Hold on.
That's the Venezuelan flag.
- Oh, my God.
Yeah, he lives in Orlando
and is from Venezuela.
Whoa, what's strange
is that José Larreal
says he's from Venezuela and
now says he lives in Florida,
but I mean what are the chances
that this guy is from the place
that she's from?
I mean, what if it is this guy?
- I think he does not play
for her team.
- Right, right.
Okay, so look.
All we know for sure right now
is that the guy in the pictures
is someone else,
so I say we message this guy--
- And see if he knows anyone
who's been using his pictures
maybe?
- Yeah, it just says,
"Hey, Raumir, it's Nev
from 'Catfish.'
"Filming an episode now
and could use your help.
Please give me a call."
Here you go.
[eerie tone]
Okay, so we know José is not
the guy in the pictures.
Let's just Google
his phone number, right?
[tense music]
- [gasps]
- Oh!
Jose--
- Raggio.
- Raggio.
This is a different last name.
- Oh, my God.
- Okay.
There's a barely started,
unfinished Facebook page
and it has the number
that she's texting now.
- Under Jose Raggio.
- Raggio.
In Florida.
- Search that @ in Instagram.
- Here we go.
We're onto something now.
Oh, we gonna get you, José.
- Mm.
- Oh, oh.
We got a hit.
There's a hit for this one.
- It's happening.
It's happening.
It's happening.
- Rey Raggio.
- Raggio.
[gasps]
Venezuelan flag right there
on his back.
- [sighs]
Is he tagged in any pictures?
This guy's tagged
in a bunch of photos.
And he seems legit.
- Weird.
- In Florida.
I'm so confused.
If this is him, why is he
sending her pictures
of some other guy?
- That doesn't make sense.
This is
an attractive looking guy.
Like--
- What am I missing?
Normally, I would say,
"Oh, this is him.
"We found his profile
like because he had it linked
through his phone number."
Like but this makes less sense.
- I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
- So is it just this guy?
And maybe he's married
or something?
But then why like--
I'm so confused.
- I don't think it's this guy.
He's seemingly attractive.
Why would he be catfishing
as someone else?
- I just feel very uncertain.
I don't wanna just dump all
this information on Dianela.
The only thing we know for sure
is that the guy in the pictures
is someone else.
- She's gonna be heartbroken.
She has no idea
who she's been talking to
for the past four years.
This is a complete stranger.
- She could be talking
to anyone.
- ♪ Hey ♪
- Okay, Beau just woke up
from his nap,
which means it's time
to check out the bounce slide.
- Bouncy, bounce.
- Bouncy, bouncy.
Here he goes.
Whee!
- And slide.
- Living the dream.
Meanwhile, back in the world
of "Catfish,"
let's get back
in the saddle here.
- Hey.
- Hey.
- Oh, my God.
I don't have my lip on.
- Your lip?
- You think I just operate
this show with no lip liner?
Absolutely not.
- All right, let's get Dianela
back on the Zoom here
and go over everything.
- She's so sweet.
- Dianela.
- Holá.
- How are you?
- I'm shaking right now.
I couldn't sleep that much
last night.
- Have you talked
to José at all?
- No.
- There is some information
for sure
that we wanna share with you.
- Okay.
- I'm gonna share my screen.
So we searched the photos
that you sent us,
and one of them took us
to this Instagram profile.
[dramatic musical sting]
- Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
That's him.
- So as you can see--
- He has a lot of rainbow flags
and things.
- Oh, my God.
- This gentleman seems
to be gay.
- Are you joking right now?
Oh, my God!
Look at that photo.
Oh, my God.
- So we now know José is not
the guy in the pictures.
- His name is Raumir, not José.
- I feel really upset.
- I mean, it's a lot.
- Yeah, it's a lot.
I didn't imagine this.
I feel so heartbroken
right now.
I think that
deep, deep inside,
I knew maybe
something was wrong,
but I choose to trust him.
- Are you gonna be okay,
Dianela?
- Yeah, I think I can do this.
- So I just wanna show you
what else we found.
So the next thing we did was
we did a Google search
for the phone number of José,
and it's connected
to a Facebook page
for someone named Jose Raggio.
- Oh, my God.
José?
- Right, but with
a different last name.
But if you look under his name,
there's like a @rjraggio,
so we searched that,
and it brought us
to this Instagram account.
Rey Raggio.
Do you know him?
- No, not at all.
- Okay, but there's
clearly a connection
between the phone number
you have for José
and Rey Raggio.
- Okay.
- So maybe this is the guy,
but that's even weirder
because why would he
use pictures of a guy
that looks a lot like him?
I mean he's a good looking guy.
- He's like hotter than--
- Yeah, he might even
be hotter.
- He's Venezuelan, obviously--
Is he from the same city as me?
- Well, so maybe you do know
this guy from your hometown.
- Oh, God.
- It's just so weird.
- My mind is so messed up
right now.
- So Dianela, go
to your Instagram
and search this account,
Rey Raggio.
Maybe he follows you
on Instagram.
Can you look?
- Yeah, I can.
- I need an anxiety Oreo.
[suspenseful music]
both: Really?
- Yeah.
- [gasps]
- So that means you're blocked.
- Clearly this guy is involved.
- I'm shaking.
I'm nauseous right now.
- But why block you?
That doesn't make any sense.
- Like I had no idea
who he was.
Why do you block me?
- Right.
- Oh, my God.
I honestly don't know
how to feel right now.
I'm pretty shocked.
- José lied about everything.
I just can't believe someone
needs to do this, you know?
Why, like why?
- Yeah.
- ♪ I couldn't help it, no ♪
- He should have
tell me the truth
because of everything
I been through, you know?
- Yeah.
- I don't think I can take it.
- ♪ Take it all ♪
♪ Bring it back to my bed ♪
♪ ♪
- I honestly don't know
how to feel right now.
I'm pretty shocked.
I wish I could hear
like his reasons,
but nothing will make sense,
you know?
- Yeah.
[dog whimpers]
- I think your dog knows
that you're upset.
When I'm like this,
he starts crying too.
- Oh, no.
He knows.
- I think all the signs
are pointing to the fact
that José is this guy,
Rey Raggio.
So I don't know, I think
I should call the phone number
you have for José,
and just say,
"Now's your chance
to finally come clean,"
and see what happens.
- It's very clear that
he's hiding something.
- It's been four years.
Why'd you do that?
Why'd you lie about your name?
Why'd you lie
about your photos?
Like, I wanna know why.
- Yeah.
Okay, here we go.
Should I say Rey?
- Say Rey.
- Hello?
- Yes, hi.
Is this Rey?
- This is Nev.
I make a TV show
called "Catfish."
I'm calling on behalf
of your friend, Dianela.
- There's a young lady
named Dianela from Venezuela
who I believe you've been
talking to, right,
for a number of years now?
- Well, Dianela wrote into us
because she's been talking
to you for a long time.
And so, we've been trying
to help figure out
the best way to get you guys
to finally
at least maybe meet
in like a Zoom call.
Oh, okay.
- He hung up?
- Yeah.
- God damn it.
- What the [bleep]
is wrong with this guy?
That's his voice.
- Are you sure?
- Yeah, I'm completely sure.
- He said, "Who is Dianela?"
Why would he be asking that?
You know exactly who she is.
Why are you [bleep] playing?
- Who is this guy?
For years,
I choose to trust him.
- Well, so now, I don't know.
I mean, I hope I didn't
like ruin our one chance.
It doesn't seem like he's gonna
want to talk to me anymore.
- I think Dianela
should call him.
- It's worth a shot.
- Oh, my God.
[line trilling]
Hello?
- Oh, hi, Rey.
- Is this the biggest liar
in the world?
Am I talking to him?
- What am I talking about?
Are you serious?
Who the [bleep] are you?
Why would you lie to me?
- Because your name
is not José Larreal.
And because you're not
the guy in the pictures.
- Yes, I'm [bleep] sure.
- Are you serious?
Just stop.
- What do I want?
You know what?
Just go [bleep] yourself, okay?
I can't do this.
He's such a jerk.
Oh, my God.
- Why is he being such a dick?
Like why is he
playing these games?
- When he told me he didn't
want anything to do with me
when I got here,
that's the attitude
he was having back then.
- I can't even imagine that.
It's like Dr. Jekyll
and Mr. Hyde.
He's just like
all over the place.
- [sniffles]
He was such a jerk with me.
I don't think I wanna see him.
- Dianela, I feel so bad.
I...
You know, you deserve somebody
who can't wait to see you.
So if you don't want
anything to do with him,
we get it,
but I don't want us
to leave you
and then a month from now,
he apologizes
and then you're back
in the same cycle again.
- No, believe me,
that won't happen again.
This was gonna be
the last time
I put myself out.
Not for him, not for anybody.
[descending tone]
- Whoa, he just texted me.
- Oh, [bleep].
- Okay, "Are you with Dianela?"
"I am in a Zoom
with Dianela now."
- Make him finally
step up to the plate
and say that he's
gonna do something.
- Hold on, I'm gonna just--oh.
He said, "Okay, listen.
"I care a lot about Dianela
and I don't want to lose her
"by any chance.
"I don't know how can
something like this happen.
I don't know how
to figure it out."
- That's bull[bleep].
You don't care about me.
You were such a jerk with me.
How can you say
you care about me?
- "If you care about her,
now is your chance
"to explain why you lied
and show her
that you are sorry."
[ascending tone]
- This is his last chance.
This is it.
- I'm sending the Zoom link.
- The choice is yours.
- He said okay.
Well, he might be joining now.
Let's see.
- [sighs]
Lord, Lord.
Lord, Lord, Lord.
[notification chimes]
- Oh.
- Oh, my God.
- This is his last chance.
This is it.
- I'm sending the Zoom link.
- The choice is yours.
- He said okay.
- Lord, Lord.
Lord, Lord, Lord.
[notification chimes]
- Oh.
- Hello.
- Hi, Rey.
- Hello.
- So I'm Nev.
This is Kamie, and obviously
you know Dianela.
- I'm sorry.
That's the first thing
that I have to say.
I'm really sorry.
- You're sorry for what?
Being a dick right now,
or lying to me for four years?
- It was not my real intention.
[tense music]
But it happened.
- I can't even.
- I just wanna make sure we're
all exactly on the same page.
So it has been you
talking to Dianela?
You met her
in the PlayStation game?
And it's been you
the whole time, right?
- Yeah.
- Okay.
Do you live in Florida now,
or do you live in Venezuela?
- I went to Florida, and then
I moved to Texas this year.
I was from Venezuela.
- Are you from the town
that you told Dianela
that you were from?
Or are you from somewhere else?
- I guess that's
not where you're from.
- No.
- Okay.
- Are you from Maracaibo?
- Yeah.
- Oh, my God.
- So you're from the same city
as Dianela?
- And did you
ever know Dianela?
'Cause you guys
are similar in age.
But had you seen her before,
or no?
- Never.
- So why did you send her
pictures of someone else
instead of yourself?
And you're meeting somebody
from the internet,
you don't go straight away
telling, "Hey, this is my name.
"This is me.
This is my picture.
This is my mom,
this is my dad."
You can get whatever.
You don't know who is safe
or who is not safe.
- Okay, right.
Well, I understand.
I think she would've
probably understood that
after a few months maybe
of talking.
- You had four years.
- [exhales]
Yeah.
Well, then I started
like...liking her.
And I didn't want
to end up being a liar.
The times passed, the months
passed, the years passed,
and I didn't saw the need
of telling her who I really was
because I felt
it was too late...
Honestly, I'm always
being afraid
about...how you would react.
- Oh, my God.
- She is very explosive
sometimes.
- Bull[bleep].
That's not true.
- I just wanna go back
to when you knew
that Dianela was getting
on a bus 10 hours
to come and see you in a city
that you did not live in--
- She did that
because she wanted to.
- [inhales deeply, exhales]
Okay.
- But knowing that
you live in a country
that you came out
and said it right away,
it's dangerous, there are
dangerous aspects to it,
people get kidnapped,
people get hurt.
This is a beautiful young lady
getting on a 10-hour bus ride
to a town
where no one's going
to be meeting her.
- I never told her
to go to Mérida.
I never told her to do that.
- He said it was not
a good idea,
but I told him
I was doing it anyways.
And he was like,
"Do whatever you want."
- I never thought
she was gonna do it.
I was telling you not to
because it was gonna be
impossible for me to see you
that day, and the reason why
is that the next day,
I was gonna travel
to United States.
- What the [bleep]?
You told me you got robbed.
You didn't tell me you were
traveling to the U.S.
You even told me we were
gonna have a chance
to meet each other
by the end of the year.
So you [bleep] lied
about that too?
- I needed to make more time
because...
I first needed you
to know who I was
and that was not happening yet.
- So what about when
Dianela came to Florida
and she was like, "I'm here.
I'm in Miami.
Like I wanna see you"?
- I got excited, but I was
in the same situation again.
- So why not say,
"Hey, I wanna see you,
but I have
to tell you something"?
Like you were just mean to her
the same way you were just mean
to her on the phone just now.
- I didn't mean to be mean.
I got a call telling me, "Hey,
now she knows who I am."
How do you think
I'm gonna react?
- I can't even.
- Rey, I'm sure you know
Dianela was fleeing Venezuela
for a better life,
but did you know
she really wanted that
new life in the United States
to be with you?
- You did?
- For José, not for you.
For the person
who I thought you were.
[eerie music]
- Hmm.
♪ ♪
- And you knew that.
Don't act like you didn't know.
- Rey, maybe we could just talk
for a minute,
just see how you're feeling,
and then you guys could talk
for a minute.
And then we'll all talk again.
- Yeah, it's fine.
- Okay, so I'll see you guys
in a minute.
All right, so I can't
really get a sense
of what you're feeling.
What's going on with you?
- [sighs]
I've been thinking a lot
this moment
for a bunch of time.
I mean, she's an amazing girl.
She's beautiful.
And then when she took a bus
from Maracaibo to Mérida,
I was like, "[bleep], why?
What did I have done?
Why have I not been real?"
Because at that moment,
I notice
the type of woman she was.
Nobody has ever done something
like that for me.
Then she comes
to United States,
and at that moment, I was like,
"I wish I have
done things better."
- Hey, girl.
- Hi.
- How are you doing?
- [sighs]
Well, obviously not that good.
- Yeah.
I don't know how you feel,
but even if he does
get back on here
and is like,
"I'm in love with you.
"I've always been
in love with you.
Like I'm sorry
I was such an idiot."
When you love someone,
you don't try to hurt
their feelings on purpose.
- Exactly.
I just feel like
he does not give a [bleep].
- I wanna be with her.
It's just that I'm
way, way too nervous.
- Nervous because she's upset?
- And she knows now.
- Well, look,
whatever you did as "José,"
she fell in love with you.
And that was you,
so just be the sweet guy
that she fell in love with.
- Yeah.
- I just have this feeling
like he has feelings for you
that he wants to express.
He just is
a horrible communicator
and maybe just
doesn't know how.
- Obviously, she's upset,
but it feels to me
like you can fix this.
You got a shot right now.
This is your last one,
so don't [bleep] it up.
- So what do you wanna do now?
- I think...
Maybe try to let him explain
or put the words together.
Maybe he means something else.
I don't know.
- How are you feeling?
You're gonna be strong
and confident?
And you tell her
you're so sorry?
- Yes.
- Fuerta.
- Fuerte.
- Fuerte.
- Yeah.
- All right.
I'm telling them
they can come back now.
[notifications chime]
Hi, guys.
- Hey.
- Hey.
- If it's all right, Dianela,
I thought it would be
a good idea maybe
for Rey to kind of try
and explain how he feels again.
- Go ahead.
- The first thing that
I have to say to you
is that I'm so sorry.
I apologize for everything
that I made wrong,
for all of my mistakes.
I'm sorry for the things
that I didn't go straight
honest since the beginning.
I'm sorry for being there
for you for four years
faking things
that are not right.
I'm sorry for everything
that I said wrong
minutes ago.
I was really nervous
because I've been thinking
for this moment
since a lot of time ago.
Right now, you're
seeing exactly who I am.
The woman that I see in you...
I see great things in you.
And I fell in love with you.
[melancholic music]
♪ ♪
I know I [bleep] up hard,
but I hope
you can give me the chance
to make things up.
- [sighs]
I really wish
I could understand you.
You talking right now,
you're the person I met
four years ago.
I'm just heartbroken again
by you
and I just don't know.
And it's hard for me
to tell you right now,
"Okay, I'm willing
to do this."
And I don't know that
I want that anymore.
- Well, I don't think anyone
would expect you, Dianela,
to make a decision right now.
And I think it's important
that Rey expressed how he felt,
and I think it's just as,
if not more important,
that you now have a chance
knowing the truth
to think about this.
And Rey, it's
gonna be up to you now
just to show her as you finally
who the real Rey is.
- But Dianela, you decide
that you don't want
anything to do with him,
Rey, you're gonna have
to deal with that.
- Yes.
Will you be bothered
if I text you?
- You can text me.
- [chuckles]
- All right, so look.
You guys have been on a wild
ride the last four years,
both in your lives in Venezuela
and now this.
You really have shared a lot
with each other,
so I'm hopeful
that you guys can
try to figure this out.
- If Dianela wants.
- Rey, we're gonna say goodbye.
- Good luck, Rey.
- Thank you.
Be safe.
- All right, Dianela.
What do you think?
- That's the person I met.
He's the person I cared for.
But like, I'm still
heartbroken.
Like I don't know where
I'm standing right now.
My mind is a mess.
- It's clear that
he wants to be with you,
but that's not your problem.
You decide what it is
that you wanna do.
That's your choice.
- Thank you, Kamie.
- Mucho gusto, Dianela.
- Mucho gusto para te también.
- Adiós.
- Ciao.
- Besos.
- Adiós, besos.
- ♪ That I've been blinded ♪
♪ By the lovelight
in my eyes ♪
♪ I wanna send it all
crashing down ♪
♪ ♪
- We got Brooklyn and Jason.
Jason seems to be
the perfect guy.
- He said, "I love you."
It was very, very, serious.
I did ask him to send
a picture with my name.
- That looks legit.
- Really?
- Why would you
put me through that?
- We need to [bleep]
squash this [bleep].
♪ ♪
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talking for four years.
- I took a bus 10 hours
to meet up,
and he totally ghost me.
- What?
- This is the last risk
I'm gonna take for us.
- It could be one of the most
romantic love stories ever,
or she could be talking
to anyone.
- Mm.
- Oh, there's a hit
for this one.
- Oh, my God.
- Why is he playing
these games?
- We gonna get you, José.
- Oh, my God.
[dramatic music]
- Hey, guys.
Nev here.
And "Catfish" quarantine
continues,
but now at my dad's house
in Long Island.
I've got a grumpy baby here
who just woke up from a nap.
- You grumpy?
- No.
- Oh!
Are you a little tired?
- Welcome to my new apartment!
I'm so excited.
Everything is not done,
but I'm slowly
but surely getting there.
Biggie is loving his new home.
As long as Biggie's happy,
I'm happy.
- So let's text Kamie.
"Hey, hey, hey!"
♪ ♪
- ♪ Look what I've got ♪
"Let's werk."
[ascending tone]
[chiming]
- Oh--whoa!
- Welcome to "MTV Cribs."
- What is that apartment?
That's not your normal spot.
- No, this is my new place!
Isn't she cute?
- Is that one
of those Zoom backgrounds?
- Don't play with me.
You have a different setup too.
- That's right.
I am now stationed out
of my father's bedroom.
We've taken over his house
because me, Laura, and the kids
are all upstairs.
His bedroom, which is the
only place he has for privacy
is now "Catfish" HQ.
- [laughs]
- Anyway, why don't we see
if we got some email?
Oh, we do.
Ooh!
"I've already put myself
in danger
more than once for this guy."
Wow, I don't know
what that means.
- I don't know what that means,
and I'm afraid to find out.
- Yeah, "Hola.
My name is Dianela.
"I've been talking
to a guy named José
"that I met while playing
video games four years ago.
- Huh.
- He's everything
I want in a guy..."
- ♪ Lose control ♪
- "Smart, ambitious,
and really cute."
- ♪ You make me wanna
lose my mind ♪
- "But what I like most
is how much he supports me."
- ♪ I'm obsessed
with the thought of you ♪
- "He even stood by me when my
mom unexpectedly passed away."
- Aw.
- "But in four years,
we have never video chatted
"or met up.
"When we started talking,
we both lived in different
cities in Venezuela."
- What?
- Crazy.
- "Things are dangerous
in Venezuela,
and we both have now
sought asylum in the U.S."
This is like a wild
international love story
out of a movie.
- Yeah.
- "I was excited to surprise
him when I arrived in the U.S."
- ♪ You make me wanna
lose control ♪
- "But when I pushed
to meet up,
he told me he wanted nothing
to do with me."
- ♪ Wanna lose my mind ♪
- "I was devastated
and heartbroken.
"Then about two months ago,
"he reached back out to me
to rekindle things,
"but I was too stressed
with getting my legal status
"to deal with him.
"Now that I'm settled,
I realize I still
have feelings for José."
- ♪ Can't get you
outta my mind ♪
- "And that's why
I'm hoping you'll help me.
Looking forward
to hearing from you, Dianela."
- ♪ Love the thought of you ♪
- Jeez.
- Something doesn't feel right.
- You'd think
if you both moved here
under similar conditions
which were less than ideal,
even if it's not romantic,
you'd think he'd still
just want to have a friendship,
but he wanted nothing
to do with her.
- Something's not right
with this guy.
I think either he was never
from Venezuela,
or maybe he is from Venezuela,
but he never came to the U.S.
- Right.
- I don't feel good about it.
- I'd like to just
get the story firsthand
from the source.
- ♪ Dianela, dressed in yella ♪
♪ Went upstairs
to kiss the fella ♪
Hello!
- Hi.
- Aw, you're so pretty.
- Thank you.
You are too.
- Look at that
little chihuahua.
- Ah, that's my little baby.
That's a mini pinscher.
It's not a chihuahua.
- Oh.
- He's my partner in crime.
- All right, so I wanna know
all about you.
You've got
a really interesting story.
First, I just wanna know
about you.
- Well, I'm 22 years old.
I was born and raised
in Maracaibo, Venezuela.
And then, I moved to
the United States last year...
- Memphis, from Venezuela.
I feel like that must be like
the craziest
culture shock ever.
- Yeah, my dad
had some friends here.
And you know, it's good
to have someone
who you can count on.
- Yeah.
No, I get that.
- So tell us about José,
and how you guys met,
and kind of the whole story.
- Well, I met José in 2017
playing "Black Ops III"
on the PS4.
- Wow.
- Yeah, I like video games.
So we played several times
and we started chatting.
- So like text chat, or was
that like with your headset?
- With my headset, yeah.
- Got it.
So you heard his voice?
- Yeah.
- He was speaking Spanish?
- Yeah, Spanish.
And we became friends
really quick.
We were both
from the same country,
but he's from Mérida
and I'm from Maracaibo,
which is like 10 hours apart
by car.
- Whoa.
- And he asked for my number
and we started talking
every day.
At the time was
my mom's passing.
I just shut down myself
and I didn't want to,
you know, to talk to anybody
and he was the only person
I talked to.
He was kind of
like a rock to me.
He just had the right words
to make me feel better,
so he became like real, real,
really special to me.
And I felt a real strong
connection with him
that I didn't feel
with anybody else.
So I started
catching feelings for him,
and José told me
there was a chance
of us meeting up
at the beginning of 2018.
And when José told me that,
like my heart,
it started jumping.
- But then why didn't you guys
end up meeting up?
- Well, when the time
was getting closer,
he starting acting
a little bit weird.
I asked what was wrong,
and he told me that
all this time
we've been talking,
he had a girlfriend.
- Oh.
- So I got really upset
and I was like,
"You're not gonna break
my heart and get away with it.
"We're gonna meet up
"and we're gonna
clear things up face-to-face.
"Right now is the moment.
I'm going, so please be there
to pick me up."
- You were gonna fly
to where he lives?
- No, I took a bus to there.
- 10 hours?
- And it's very dangerous
to have 19-year-old
to travel alone in a bus.
I love my country,
but it's dangerous.
- But a 10-hour bus ride?
- Yeah, I did that.
[dramatic musical sting]
And when I got there,
it was getting dark
and he was not there.
I called him.
He didn't reply.
I text him,
and he didn't show up.
He totally ghost me, and--
- That's insane.
- Yeah, it is.
- I'm really trying
to wrap my brain around
why we're even still talking
about this guy,
because if he could leave you
in the middle of the night--
- I put myself in danger.
- Right!
- Well, after he didn't
show up, I was so scared.
I bought a ticket again
to Maracaibo
very, very late at night.
- You took this bus
for 20 hours?
Over 20 hours?
- Yeah.
When I was getting closer
to Maracaibo,
I received a text,
and it was him.
He told me he got robbed.
- Oh, God.
- I didn't believe him.
I was totally heartbroken.
It shattered me,
and I didn't wanna talk to him
or see him anymore.
- Understandably so.
- So that's awful.
- Yeah.
- When was that?
- That was on the beginning
of 2018.
- So how did you get from that
to then talking to him again?
- On my birthday,
he sent me a gift.
It had, like, a lot
of balloons and flowers
and some empanadas
and tequeños.
- That's nice.
- Yeah.
- That's cute.
Oh, so this guy, I mean, look.
As much as I wanna
hate this guy,
I have to admit
that is very nice.
- It is the most precious gift
I have ever received.
And so, I text him,
say, "Thank you.
It was so sweet of you."
And after that,
we started talking again.
- So did the gift have
like a card on it
with his name and address?
- Yeah, with his name.
- No address?
- No, no address.
- How did he know your address?
- Because I told him.
- Okay, so you texted him
and you said thank you.
- Yeah, and so,
we started talking again
and about the possibility
of us meeting up
by the end of the year.
- That never happened.
- No, that never happened
because by the end of 2018,
when the time was
getting closer to meeting up,
he told me that his new job
needed him to come
to the States.
- What was his new job?
- Computer engineering.
So I was kind of sad,
but I told him,
"Well, I have a visa,
so we can just meet there."
And he was like,
"That's a great idea."
And the next year,
the following year,
my dad came here
to Memphis, Tennessee,
so I decided that
it was the moment 'cause
obviously the main reason was
the situation in Venezuela,
but I was also
following my heart
to go meet the guy
that I've been caring of.
- Wow.
- And when I got
to Miami's airport--
- Was he in Miami?
- Yeah, he was in Miami.
I told him, "Maybe our time
was not in Venezuela.
Maybe right now is the moment.
Let's just meet up."
And he told me he didn't want
anything to do with me
and that he didn't want
to see me.
- Why?
What was his explanation?
- He just said he didn't
feel interested anymore.
He just didn't care,
and at that moment,
I felt so heartbroken.
I put myself out there for you.
Like this is the second time.
- You've risked it all
to meet him,
but it doesn't feel like he's
doing the same thing for you.
- Yeah.
- So why him?
- I honestly haven't felt
the connection I felt with him
with anybody.
I can talk to him like I used
to talk with my mom, you know?
[solemn music]
And I haven't felt that again.
- Wow.
- He reached out to me
two months ago.
Now it was him
who wanted to meet me,
but I was honestly
too heartbroken.
I just couldn't forget
everything I went through.
- Yeah.
- But now is the moment
that I feel like
this is the last shot,
the last risk I'm gonna take
for us, for me
'cause it's been a lot,
you know?
- Like why haven't you
FaceTimed or video chatted?
How has that not happened?
- Well, because he told me once
that his camera
was not working, and...
$2 per month.
- Per month, or per week?
- Per month.
[dramatic musical sting]
Two dollars.
- Yeah, what can you get?
That's nothing.
- Nothing!
- Wow.
- There are a lot of people
starving and stuff.
It is not affordable
to buy a new phone
or fix your camera, you know?
- Right, did you ever get
his social media?
Like did you know
what he looked like?
- I didn't have
the social media
because he told me
he didn't use that.
- Have you seen a lot
of pictures of him?
Or do have some, at least one
that you can show us now?
- Yeah, of course.
- Oh, here we go.
- Drumroll, please.
I wanna see how hot he is.
- This is him.
- Oh.
- He is hot.
- [laughs]
Okay--wait.
His name is José?
- Yeah, José Larreal.
- Why does his necklace
have an R on it?
- Oh, my God.
I didn't figure that out.
- Okay.
- Oh.
- Wow, some serious style.
- Well, Dianela, I don't know.
What if he is a catfish?
Like then what?
- I'll be heartbroken.
He knows that I don't do lies,
and if he's not
who I think he is,
I will be heartbroken.
So heartbroken.
- But if it is him, you'll
be willing to forgive him
for all of this?
- Yes. Yes!
- Wow.
- We're gonna do some research,
see if we can find out anything
about José.
Obviously, you'll send us
his phone number
and the pictures you have
for him.
- We will get
to the bottom of this.
- Yeah, Dianela,
we'll talk to you soon.
- Okay, great.
- Bye.
- Bye-bye, ciao.
- All right, wow.
- Yeah, forgive me.
I'm currently on Amazon
ordering red flags
because there are so many
red flags in this story.
- There's so many missed
moments and opportunities
for what feels like
could be true love.
- I don't like the fact that
it feels like Dianela is
chasing this man
around the world
and he keeps playing her out.
- On one hand,
this feels like it could be
one of the most amazing,
romantic love stories ever,
and on the other hand,
it could be a huge,
devastating deceit.
[exciting music]
- Hi, Kamie.
- Hey!
- Hey, girl.
- Hey.
Oh, I was about to do
my episode with Cleo.
- Cleo, tell her what
you've been doing this week.
- Ooh.
- Wait, so here, I'll hold it.
- This is a face,
house, mouse, unicorn.
- A face, house,
mouse, unicorn?
You're so funny.
I love it.
- Yeah, it's really good.
both: [blows raspberries]
[laughter]
- All right, party's over.
- I love arts and crafts
with the Schulmans.
It's my favorite part
about this show.
- All right, so basically,
here's our situation.
Dianela and José met in
Venezuela through PlayStation.
They became friends
and shortly after that,
her mom died, and
she was going through a lot,
and he was super there
for her.
And then after like a year,
they were gonna meet up.
And she went,
and he ghosted her
after she rode a bus
all day long.
- I'm not getting on a bus 20
hours for this mother[bleep].
- That's crazy that
she took a bus that far.
Then he moved to Miami,
and then she moved to Memphis,
fleeing from Venezuela
as refugees.
And it's like she's obviously
ready to find out
what the hell's been
going on this whole time.
- For the past four years.
- And if there's any potential
future for them or not.
- [sighs]
I don't know.
- So let's just take
a quick look over here.
Dianela sent us a new email.
All right, "Hey, Nev and Kamie.
Gracias for helping me."
- No problem.
- "Here is all the information
I have for José.
He lives in Miami, Florida.
He studied engineering."
His current phone number and
his full name, José Larreal.
- So are we gonna assume
that his middle name
begins with an R?
- The guy in the pictures
Dianela sent us,
you can see
his diamond R necklace.
- It is weird.
- You wanna just start
with a photo search?
- I'm very concerned.
- This one doesn't look like
it's a hit.
- [sighs]
- Let's try this one.
Hmm, nothing.
So let's search this photo
of him in his red shirt.
- Oh, God.
- Hold on.
Whoa, check it out.
On the very bottom.
You see that?
- [gasps]
You can see his @ right there.
Raumi--
- Raumir.
- With the R.
R name.
I told you.
- Oh, my God.
So let's go to Instagram.
- Oh, [bleep].
- There's an account.
- These are all that guy.
- Oh, wow!
100,000 followers.
- He's fabulous.
With the pride flag and all.
I know that's right.
I love it.
I'm here for it.
- I mean, I like
this guy's style a lot.
- But his name is not José.
- He's probably not the guy
Dianela is talking to.
This definitely changes things.
- Hold on.
That's the Venezuelan flag.
- Oh, my God.
Yeah, he lives in Orlando
and is from Venezuela.
Whoa, what's strange
is that José Larreal
says he's from Venezuela and
now says he lives in Florida,
but I mean what are the chances
that this guy is from the place
that she's from?
I mean, what if it is this guy?
- I think he does not play
for her team.
- Right, right.
Okay, so look.
All we know for sure right now
is that the guy in the pictures
is someone else,
so I say we message this guy--
- And see if he knows anyone
who's been using his pictures
maybe?
- Yeah, it just says,
"Hey, Raumir, it's Nev
from 'Catfish.'
"Filming an episode now
and could use your help.
Please give me a call."
Here you go.
[eerie tone]
Okay, so we know José is not
the guy in the pictures.
Let's just Google
his phone number, right?
[tense music]
- [gasps]
- Oh!
Jose--
- Raggio.
- Raggio.
This is a different last name.
- Oh, my God.
- Okay.
There's a barely started,
unfinished Facebook page
and it has the number
that she's texting now.
- Under Jose Raggio.
- Raggio.
In Florida.
- Search that @ in Instagram.
- Here we go.
We're onto something now.
Oh, we gonna get you, José.
- Mm.
- Oh, oh.
We got a hit.
There's a hit for this one.
- It's happening.
It's happening.
It's happening.
- Rey Raggio.
- Raggio.
[gasps]
Venezuelan flag right there
on his back.
- [sighs]
Is he tagged in any pictures?
This guy's tagged
in a bunch of photos.
And he seems legit.
- Weird.
- In Florida.
I'm so confused.
If this is him, why is he
sending her pictures
of some other guy?
- That doesn't make sense.
This is
an attractive looking guy.
Like--
- What am I missing?
Normally, I would say,
"Oh, this is him.
"We found his profile
like because he had it linked
through his phone number."
Like but this makes less sense.
- I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
- So is it just this guy?
And maybe he's married
or something?
But then why like--
I'm so confused.
- I don't think it's this guy.
He's seemingly attractive.
Why would he be catfishing
as someone else?
- I just feel very uncertain.
I don't wanna just dump all
this information on Dianela.
The only thing we know for sure
is that the guy in the pictures
is someone else.
- She's gonna be heartbroken.
She has no idea
who she's been talking to
for the past four years.
This is a complete stranger.
- She could be talking
to anyone.
- ♪ Hey ♪
- Okay, Beau just woke up
from his nap,
which means it's time
to check out the bounce slide.
- Bouncy, bounce.
- Bouncy, bouncy.
Here he goes.
Whee!
- And slide.
- Living the dream.
Meanwhile, back in the world
of "Catfish,"
let's get back
in the saddle here.
- Hey.
- Hey.
- Oh, my God.
I don't have my lip on.
- Your lip?
- You think I just operate
this show with no lip liner?
Absolutely not.
- All right, let's get Dianela
back on the Zoom here
and go over everything.
- She's so sweet.
- Dianela.
- Holá.
- How are you?
- I'm shaking right now.
I couldn't sleep that much
last night.
- Have you talked
to José at all?
- No.
- There is some information
for sure
that we wanna share with you.
- Okay.
- I'm gonna share my screen.
So we searched the photos
that you sent us,
and one of them took us
to this Instagram profile.
[dramatic musical sting]
- Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
That's him.
- So as you can see--
- He has a lot of rainbow flags
and things.
- Oh, my God.
- This gentleman seems
to be gay.
- Are you joking right now?
Oh, my God!
Look at that photo.
Oh, my God.
- So we now know José is not
the guy in the pictures.
- His name is Raumir, not José.
- I feel really upset.
- I mean, it's a lot.
- Yeah, it's a lot.
I didn't imagine this.
I feel so heartbroken
right now.
I think that
deep, deep inside,
I knew maybe
something was wrong,
but I choose to trust him.
- Are you gonna be okay,
Dianela?
- Yeah, I think I can do this.
- So I just wanna show you
what else we found.
So the next thing we did was
we did a Google search
for the phone number of José,
and it's connected
to a Facebook page
for someone named Jose Raggio.
- Oh, my God.
José?
- Right, but with
a different last name.
But if you look under his name,
there's like a @rjraggio,
so we searched that,
and it brought us
to this Instagram account.
Rey Raggio.
Do you know him?
- No, not at all.
- Okay, but there's
clearly a connection
between the phone number
you have for José
and Rey Raggio.
- Okay.
- So maybe this is the guy,
but that's even weirder
because why would he
use pictures of a guy
that looks a lot like him?
I mean he's a good looking guy.
- He's like hotter than--
- Yeah, he might even
be hotter.
- He's Venezuelan, obviously--
Is he from the same city as me?
- Well, so maybe you do know
this guy from your hometown.
- Oh, God.
- It's just so weird.
- My mind is so messed up
right now.
- So Dianela, go
to your Instagram
and search this account,
Rey Raggio.
Maybe he follows you
on Instagram.
Can you look?
- Yeah, I can.
- I need an anxiety Oreo.
[suspenseful music]
both: Really?
- Yeah.
- [gasps]
- So that means you're blocked.
- Clearly this guy is involved.
- I'm shaking.
I'm nauseous right now.
- But why block you?
That doesn't make any sense.
- Like I had no idea
who he was.
Why do you block me?
- Right.
- Oh, my God.
I honestly don't know
how to feel right now.
I'm pretty shocked.
- José lied about everything.
I just can't believe someone
needs to do this, you know?
Why, like why?
- Yeah.
- ♪ I couldn't help it, no ♪
- He should have
tell me the truth
because of everything
I been through, you know?
- Yeah.
- I don't think I can take it.
- ♪ Take it all ♪
♪ Bring it back to my bed ♪
♪ ♪
- I honestly don't know
how to feel right now.
I'm pretty shocked.
I wish I could hear
like his reasons,
but nothing will make sense,
you know?
- Yeah.
[dog whimpers]
- I think your dog knows
that you're upset.
When I'm like this,
he starts crying too.
- Oh, no.
He knows.
- I think all the signs
are pointing to the fact
that José is this guy,
Rey Raggio.
So I don't know, I think
I should call the phone number
you have for José,
and just say,
"Now's your chance
to finally come clean,"
and see what happens.
- It's very clear that
he's hiding something.
- It's been four years.
Why'd you do that?
Why'd you lie about your name?
Why'd you lie
about your photos?
Like, I wanna know why.
- Yeah.
Okay, here we go.
Should I say Rey?
- Say Rey.
- Hello?
- Yes, hi.
Is this Rey?
- This is Nev.
I make a TV show
called "Catfish."
I'm calling on behalf
of your friend, Dianela.
- There's a young lady
named Dianela from Venezuela
who I believe you've been
talking to, right,
for a number of years now?
- Well, Dianela wrote into us
because she's been talking
to you for a long time.
And so, we've been trying
to help figure out
the best way to get you guys
to finally
at least maybe meet
in like a Zoom call.
Oh, okay.
- He hung up?
- Yeah.
- God damn it.
- What the [bleep]
is wrong with this guy?
That's his voice.
- Are you sure?
- Yeah, I'm completely sure.
- He said, "Who is Dianela?"
Why would he be asking that?
You know exactly who she is.
Why are you [bleep] playing?
- Who is this guy?
For years,
I choose to trust him.
- Well, so now, I don't know.
I mean, I hope I didn't
like ruin our one chance.
It doesn't seem like he's gonna
want to talk to me anymore.
- I think Dianela
should call him.
- It's worth a shot.
- Oh, my God.
[line trilling]
Hello?
- Oh, hi, Rey.
- Is this the biggest liar
in the world?
Am I talking to him?
- What am I talking about?
Are you serious?
Who the [bleep] are you?
Why would you lie to me?
- Because your name
is not José Larreal.
And because you're not
the guy in the pictures.
- Yes, I'm [bleep] sure.
- Are you serious?
Just stop.
- What do I want?
You know what?
Just go [bleep] yourself, okay?
I can't do this.
He's such a jerk.
Oh, my God.
- Why is he being such a dick?
Like why is he
playing these games?
- When he told me he didn't
want anything to do with me
when I got here,
that's the attitude
he was having back then.
- I can't even imagine that.
It's like Dr. Jekyll
and Mr. Hyde.
He's just like
all over the place.
- [sniffles]
He was such a jerk with me.
I don't think I wanna see him.
- Dianela, I feel so bad.
I...
You know, you deserve somebody
who can't wait to see you.
So if you don't want
anything to do with him,
we get it,
but I don't want us
to leave you
and then a month from now,
he apologizes
and then you're back
in the same cycle again.
- No, believe me,
that won't happen again.
This was gonna be
the last time
I put myself out.
Not for him, not for anybody.
[descending tone]
- Whoa, he just texted me.
- Oh, [bleep].
- Okay, "Are you with Dianela?"
"I am in a Zoom
with Dianela now."
- Make him finally
step up to the plate
and say that he's
gonna do something.
- Hold on, I'm gonna just--oh.
He said, "Okay, listen.
"I care a lot about Dianela
and I don't want to lose her
"by any chance.
"I don't know how can
something like this happen.
I don't know how
to figure it out."
- That's bull[bleep].
You don't care about me.
You were such a jerk with me.
How can you say
you care about me?
- "If you care about her,
now is your chance
"to explain why you lied
and show her
that you are sorry."
[ascending tone]
- This is his last chance.
This is it.
- I'm sending the Zoom link.
- The choice is yours.
- He said okay.
Well, he might be joining now.
Let's see.
- [sighs]
Lord, Lord.
Lord, Lord, Lord.
[notification chimes]
- Oh.
- Oh, my God.
- This is his last chance.
This is it.
- I'm sending the Zoom link.
- The choice is yours.
- He said okay.
- Lord, Lord.
Lord, Lord, Lord.
[notification chimes]
- Oh.
- Hello.
- Hi, Rey.
- Hello.
- So I'm Nev.
This is Kamie, and obviously
you know Dianela.
- I'm sorry.
That's the first thing
that I have to say.
I'm really sorry.
- You're sorry for what?
Being a dick right now,
or lying to me for four years?
- It was not my real intention.
[tense music]
But it happened.
- I can't even.
- I just wanna make sure we're
all exactly on the same page.
So it has been you
talking to Dianela?
You met her
in the PlayStation game?
And it's been you
the whole time, right?
- Yeah.
- Okay.
Do you live in Florida now,
or do you live in Venezuela?
- I went to Florida, and then
I moved to Texas this year.
I was from Venezuela.
- Are you from the town
that you told Dianela
that you were from?
Or are you from somewhere else?
- I guess that's
not where you're from.
- No.
- Okay.
- Are you from Maracaibo?
- Yeah.
- Oh, my God.
- So you're from the same city
as Dianela?
- And did you
ever know Dianela?
'Cause you guys
are similar in age.
But had you seen her before,
or no?
- Never.
- So why did you send her
pictures of someone else
instead of yourself?
And you're meeting somebody
from the internet,
you don't go straight away
telling, "Hey, this is my name.
"This is me.
This is my picture.
This is my mom,
this is my dad."
You can get whatever.
You don't know who is safe
or who is not safe.
- Okay, right.
Well, I understand.
I think she would've
probably understood that
after a few months maybe
of talking.
- You had four years.
- [exhales]
Yeah.
Well, then I started
like...liking her.
And I didn't want
to end up being a liar.
The times passed, the months
passed, the years passed,
and I didn't saw the need
of telling her who I really was
because I felt
it was too late...
Honestly, I'm always
being afraid
about...how you would react.
- Oh, my God.
- She is very explosive
sometimes.
- Bull[bleep].
That's not true.
- I just wanna go back
to when you knew
that Dianela was getting
on a bus 10 hours
to come and see you in a city
that you did not live in--
- She did that
because she wanted to.
- [inhales deeply, exhales]
Okay.
- But knowing that
you live in a country
that you came out
and said it right away,
it's dangerous, there are
dangerous aspects to it,
people get kidnapped,
people get hurt.
This is a beautiful young lady
getting on a 10-hour bus ride
to a town
where no one's going
to be meeting her.
- I never told her
to go to Mérida.
I never told her to do that.
- He said it was not
a good idea,
but I told him
I was doing it anyways.
And he was like,
"Do whatever you want."
- I never thought
she was gonna do it.
I was telling you not to
because it was gonna be
impossible for me to see you
that day, and the reason why
is that the next day,
I was gonna travel
to United States.
- What the [bleep]?
You told me you got robbed.
You didn't tell me you were
traveling to the U.S.
You even told me we were
gonna have a chance
to meet each other
by the end of the year.
So you [bleep] lied
about that too?
- I needed to make more time
because...
I first needed you
to know who I was
and that was not happening yet.
- So what about when
Dianela came to Florida
and she was like, "I'm here.
I'm in Miami.
Like I wanna see you"?
- I got excited, but I was
in the same situation again.
- So why not say,
"Hey, I wanna see you,
but I have
to tell you something"?
Like you were just mean to her
the same way you were just mean
to her on the phone just now.
- I didn't mean to be mean.
I got a call telling me, "Hey,
now she knows who I am."
How do you think
I'm gonna react?
- I can't even.
- Rey, I'm sure you know
Dianela was fleeing Venezuela
for a better life,
but did you know
she really wanted that
new life in the United States
to be with you?
- You did?
- For José, not for you.
For the person
who I thought you were.
[eerie music]
- Hmm.
♪ ♪
- And you knew that.
Don't act like you didn't know.
- Rey, maybe we could just talk
for a minute,
just see how you're feeling,
and then you guys could talk
for a minute.
And then we'll all talk again.
- Yeah, it's fine.
- Okay, so I'll see you guys
in a minute.
All right, so I can't
really get a sense
of what you're feeling.
What's going on with you?
- [sighs]
I've been thinking a lot
this moment
for a bunch of time.
I mean, she's an amazing girl.
She's beautiful.
And then when she took a bus
from Maracaibo to Mérida,
I was like, "[bleep], why?
What did I have done?
Why have I not been real?"
Because at that moment,
I notice
the type of woman she was.
Nobody has ever done something
like that for me.
Then she comes
to United States,
and at that moment, I was like,
"I wish I have
done things better."
- Hey, girl.
- Hi.
- How are you doing?
- [sighs]
Well, obviously not that good.
- Yeah.
I don't know how you feel,
but even if he does
get back on here
and is like,
"I'm in love with you.
"I've always been
in love with you.
Like I'm sorry
I was such an idiot."
When you love someone,
you don't try to hurt
their feelings on purpose.
- Exactly.
I just feel like
he does not give a [bleep].
- I wanna be with her.
It's just that I'm
way, way too nervous.
- Nervous because she's upset?
- And she knows now.
- Well, look,
whatever you did as "José,"
she fell in love with you.
And that was you,
so just be the sweet guy
that she fell in love with.
- Yeah.
- I just have this feeling
like he has feelings for you
that he wants to express.
He just is
a horrible communicator
and maybe just
doesn't know how.
- Obviously, she's upset,
but it feels to me
like you can fix this.
You got a shot right now.
This is your last one,
so don't [bleep] it up.
- So what do you wanna do now?
- I think...
Maybe try to let him explain
or put the words together.
Maybe he means something else.
I don't know.
- How are you feeling?
You're gonna be strong
and confident?
And you tell her
you're so sorry?
- Yes.
- Fuerta.
- Fuerte.
- Fuerte.
- Yeah.
- All right.
I'm telling them
they can come back now.
[notifications chime]
Hi, guys.
- Hey.
- Hey.
- If it's all right, Dianela,
I thought it would be
a good idea maybe
for Rey to kind of try
and explain how he feels again.
- Go ahead.
- The first thing that
I have to say to you
is that I'm so sorry.
I apologize for everything
that I made wrong,
for all of my mistakes.
I'm sorry for the things
that I didn't go straight
honest since the beginning.
I'm sorry for being there
for you for four years
faking things
that are not right.
I'm sorry for everything
that I said wrong
minutes ago.
I was really nervous
because I've been thinking
for this moment
since a lot of time ago.
Right now, you're
seeing exactly who I am.
The woman that I see in you...
I see great things in you.
And I fell in love with you.
[melancholic music]
♪ ♪
I know I [bleep] up hard,
but I hope
you can give me the chance
to make things up.
- [sighs]
I really wish
I could understand you.
You talking right now,
you're the person I met
four years ago.
I'm just heartbroken again
by you
and I just don't know.
And it's hard for me
to tell you right now,
"Okay, I'm willing
to do this."
And I don't know that
I want that anymore.
- Well, I don't think anyone
would expect you, Dianela,
to make a decision right now.
And I think it's important
that Rey expressed how he felt,
and I think it's just as,
if not more important,
that you now have a chance
knowing the truth
to think about this.
And Rey, it's
gonna be up to you now
just to show her as you finally
who the real Rey is.
- But Dianela, you decide
that you don't want
anything to do with him,
Rey, you're gonna have
to deal with that.
- Yes.
Will you be bothered
if I text you?
- You can text me.
- [chuckles]
- All right, so look.
You guys have been on a wild
ride the last four years,
both in your lives in Venezuela
and now this.
You really have shared a lot
with each other,
so I'm hopeful
that you guys can
try to figure this out.
- If Dianela wants.
- Rey, we're gonna say goodbye.
- Good luck, Rey.
- Thank you.
Be safe.
- All right, Dianela.
What do you think?
- That's the person I met.
He's the person I cared for.
But like, I'm still
heartbroken.
Like I don't know where
I'm standing right now.
My mind is a mess.
- It's clear that
he wants to be with you,
but that's not your problem.
You decide what it is
that you wanna do.
That's your choice.
- Thank you, Kamie.
- Mucho gusto, Dianela.
- Mucho gusto para te también.
- Adiós.
- Ciao.
- Besos.
- Adiós, besos.
- ♪ That I've been blinded ♪
♪ By the lovelight
in my eyes ♪
♪ I wanna send it all
crashing down ♪
♪ ♪
- We got Brooklyn and Jason.
Jason seems to be
the perfect guy.
- He said, "I love you."
It was very, very, serious.
I did ask him to send
a picture with my name.
- That looks legit.
- Really?
- Why would you
put me through that?
- We need to [bleep]
squash this [bleep].
♪ ♪
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