Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 8, Episode 17 - Zay & Jayda - full transcript

- We got Zay.
She's talking to Jayda.

They are in love,
but Zay is married.

- I feel like our connection
is way different

than with me and my wife.

- Is that her?
- [gasps]

Her name is Jayda.
Entanglement!

- Hold on, she just texted.
She said,

"I really don't wanna do this,
but I will."

- What is happening?
- Hi, can you hear us?

- Yeah.

- Come to the camera.
- Oh.



[dramatic musical sting]

[tense music]

♪ ♪

Hey, guys.
Still here.

Still fishing for cats.

All right, so here we go.

There's Beau.
[chuckles]

[upbeat music]

Ready to start an episode
with me, Beau?

You wanna see Kamie?
Can you say Kamie?

- All right,
let's write her a message.

♪ ♪

- Oh, my God, Beau!
- Hi.

- Hi, Beau.



- Beau, you're frozen.
Say something.

- Hey.

- It's never too early
to learn the family business.

He's so cute.
- Who's that?

- I love him.
- All right.

- Bye.
- Can you wave, Beau?

- Why is he so big?
- Bye.

- Bye-bye.
- Bye.

Like I don't--quarantine
is making me baby crazy.

- I'll show you baby crazy.

All right, meanwhile
we've got an email here,

subject, "Did I trust
the wrong person?"

"Dear Nev and Kamie,
Hi, guys, my name is Zay.

"I'm a 23-year-old
female barber

living just outside
of Tampa, Florida."

- ♪ I'm always walking
to the same old place ♪

- "I'm in a very
delicate situation

"and could use your help.

"First off, I think
I should tell you

that I'm married."
[music fades]

- That is already a bad sign.
- Yeah.

"My wife and I have been
together for three years,

"and we were happy at one time,

but everything changed when
we tied the knot a year ago."

- ♪ In my dream world ♪

- "I was in a lot of pain,
and I didn't have anyone

I felt I could talk to
until I met Jayda."

- ♪ I'm still your baby ♪

- "I first saw Jayda
about five months ago

when she slid into my DMs."

- ♪ I'm still
your dream girl ♪

- "We started messaging
nonstop, and before I knew it,

I was falling for her."

- ♪ I'm still
your dream girl ♪

- "Because I was trying
to hide things from my wife,

"we kept things on DM.

"Jayda is amazing.

"I've never met anyone
like her before.

"She lives on the edge

and tries to do something new
every day,

"which is so dope to me.

She's also incredibly caring."

- ♪ But now I'm calling you
at 3:00 a.m. ♪

- "I've never had someone
in my life

care for me like that."

- ♪ I may be acting crazy ♪

♪ Now it's way too late,
you took my heart away ♪

- "Two months into talking,
things had gotten serious

"between us, and while I knew
stepping out on a marriage

"wasn't okay, I really wanted
to meet Jayda.

"I offered to go visit her
in Atlanta,

"but she brought up my wife,
saying she didn't wanna meet

"until that was resolved.

I bit the bullet
and told my wife everything."

- Oh!

- "But she still
couldn't meet me."

[dramatic musical sting]

- "I know that having
an emotional affair isn't okay,

"and that I might not deserve
a happy ending.

"I'd really appreciate
if you could look

beyond what I've done
and help me find the truth."

- ♪ I'm still
your dream girl ♪

- "Thanks, Zay."

- Zay is literally about
to end her entire marriage.

- Obviously I don't
encourage cheating,

whether it's physically
or emotionally

while you're
in a committed relationship,

but let's talk about Jayda.

- My biggest issue with
the current pop culture climate

of what's going on right now

is the fact that
her name is Jayda.

Jada and Will.

The entanglement.
- Yeah.

- And that is exactly what Zay
is in with Jayda and her wife.

It's an entanglement.

- We gotta get a little bit
more info from Zay.

Let me text her.
- Hit her up.

- See if she's avail'.

[texts chiming]

Oh, great.
"I would love to."

Let me send her the link.
Hey.

Hey!
- Oh, hello.

- Hi, guys.
How you guys doing?

- Good.
Where are you from?

- New York City, from Queens.
- I knew it.

I could tell by your accent.

I was like,
"Why is she from Tampa

but has a New York accent?"

- Sound like New York, right?
- Definitely, yes.

Sounds like you're in
a tough situation.

- 'Cause you were married,
so you lived--

you were living with your wife.

Are you still married?
Do you still live together?

- So yes, still legally
married, still living together.

In the midst of finding
my own place now.

- And what are things like
with your wife and you?

- Things have been
very difficult

this past, I would say
year and a half going on.

Like a lot
of miscommunication,

a lot of doing things
behind each other's back

at least on my end,
so it's been, you know,

it's been a lot.

- What's your wife's name?
- Eris.

- And how long
have you been with Eris?

- We went to college together
in New York.

That's where we met.

- So what would you say like
the major issues have been?

- I had a lot of loss
as far as death in my family,

and I feel like she
wasn't being as sensitive

to that topic
as, you know, I am.

Then, this is
a little personal,

but a lot of lack in sex,

so that's what kind of
drew me away as well.

Well, honestly, it drew me
all the way away.

- But at the time when Jayda
first reached out to you,

were you still willing
to work on your marriage?

- At first, I was.
I talked to my wife about it.

Like I hinted things
like I'm not happy.

Like--and then she'll
try to do things

to kind of like
make up for that,

but it just--
I wasn't feeling it.

- So did you tell Eris

about this whole situation
while in quarantine?

- I did.

It was hard for me
to, you know,

lay everything out on the table
and be honest,

but I had to.

She took it really hard.

- Does Eris know that you're
going through the process

of trying to meet Jayda?

- She knows now.

- Do you mind just
repeating for me

how you met Jayda?

- She followed me,

and then that's when
I followed her back.

Just based off of her like
her little icon picture,

I liked how it looked,
and then she DMed me.

It was nothing but like
friendly conversation.

We'd talk about the future,
our lives,

and different things
like that.

So then I would say like
a couple of weeks later,

that's when things
kind of started to spiral

as far as, you know,
getting flirtatious

and, you know, talking
on a different level.

- What else can you tell us
about her?

Just general sort of info.

- So we're the same age
basically.

I know she told me
she lives in Atlanta.

She told me a lot
about, like, her childhood,

her not having
the best upbringing,

places she's traveled to,
things she's done, her work--

she's a hair stylist--
and stuff like that.

- Can we see what
she looks like?

- Yup.
- Me and Kamie are just like...

- Entanglement!

- [chuckles]
Jada, right?

- "Catfish" edition.
- Boom.

- All right.
Oh, jay.barbieee.

Okay, all right,
well, click on one.

Click on one and scroll.
- She's cute.

- Wait, well, who is this?

Engaged?
- So...

So this is something that
we had a argument about

over Instagram.

She basically was like,
"This is just my friend.

"It's nothing like that.

We've been best friends
for years,"

and things like that.
And I was like, "Okay.

Well, how come I never heard
about this person?"

I never even seen
the picture of her before.

- Yeah, it's just odd to use
those emojis for her friend.

And can you show us
your messages quickly?

- You guys talk a lot.
- Wow.

- Yeah, all right, so--
- This is only July.

Whoa, but she wants you
to marry her

like you married
your first--wow.

This is messed up.

- "I'll come to where ever
you are right now

if you leave her."

This sounds like
you are in an--

not an entanglement,
an entrapment.

You are being trapped,
you are being baited.

She sent her number,
and then said,

"But I can't be on the phone.
I lost my voice."

And she has a 917.
Isn't 917 New York?

- That is New York.

- She said, "I lost my voice."
And you said, "Drink some tea.

Tea should help."
And she said, "Tea won't work."

- Look, I was trying.
I was trying.

- Have you guys even
just talked on the phone?

- I tried.
I called a couple of times.

Like and every time I call,
either someone hangs up

on the other line, or when
I say hello, they'll hang up.

So that's as far
as I got with that.

- She said,
"I love you so much.

You complete me"!
You said, "I love you too.

You complete me too,
baby girl."

What?
- I did, I know.

- Well, you know,

you've been with Eris
for a while,

and yeah, that relationship
is dwindling out,

but what is it that Jayda has
that Eris doesn't?

- The communication.

The communication
is there 100%.

Yes, we haven't like,
you know, video chat,

or spoken over the phone,
and things like that,

but you know, she's always
asking me how my day was.

To me, the little stuff
is really what matters

and this is the stuff
that I've told Eris

that I felt like
she was lacking.

I feel like our connection
is way different

than what me and Eris do have.

- So you feel pretty strongly
about her.

- I do.
I 100% do.

I have a hell of a lot of love
for her.

- But the "I love you,
I miss you"...

I'ma be honest, makes me feel
like this could just be Eris.

- I really don't think so.
Like I said, I could be wrong.

- She could've been
trying to bait you,

and maybe you took the bait,

and maybe now
she's [bleep] pissed.

- I don't think so.

- I'm not saying it's her.
I just--

- Putting two and two to--yeah.
- Well, right.

You know, because if you
talk to her on the phone,

you'd recognize her voice.

- Yeah, sure would.

- And if you saw her face--

- You'd definitely
recognize her face.

- I don't know, Nev.
What do we do?

- [laughs]
- I need help.

- Send us everything you have
and we'll dive in.

We'll hopefully--we'll see
if we could find something.

- Got it.
Thank you, guys.

Appreciate it.
- Talk to you soon.

- Bye.
- [chuckles]

Entanglement!
- Wow.

- It's the perfect setup.
It's a trap.

It's a trap, and Zay
is falling into the trap.

But that's only if Eris
has something to do with it.

- Yeah, for sure.

- Either way,
I have a strong feeling

that this person is
someone that Zay knows.

- "Nev, all set,

but I am in a crisis."

[phone whooshes]
- Uh-oh.

"Crisis"--oh.
There she is.

What's the problem?
- I have a pimple.

- I can't see it.
No, you can't see anything.

You're crazy.
- Oh, man.

- All right,
so the headline here is

"Zay and Jayda."

All right, here is
a new email from Zay.

"Hey, guys, Here's all
the things I know about Jayda."

Her Instagram, her phone number

which is 917,
which is interesting.

- It's a New York area code
for sure.

- "She lives in Atlanta
and does hair."

And then Eris' Instagram.
Her wife, right?

- Mm-hmm.

- "Thank you again
for your help."

Oh, so then here
are some pictures.

Let's see what we can find.
Let's start with picture one.

[dramatic musical sting]
No.

All right,
let's see picture two.

We're not doing so hot
over here.

All right, let's try this one.
No.

- I mean they all look like
Snapchat photos.

- Right.

- The fact that that one
picture says "Jay's Monday"

gives an indication that even
if the girl in the pictures

is not who Zay is talking to,

at least the girl
who's in those photos,

her real name might be Jay.

- Which is interesting.

All right, let's see
what else we got here.

All right, let's check
her phone number.

See if we get a hit
on the phone search.

Come on--ooh, oh.
- Big money, big money.

Is that not a text app?
- Yeah.

- No one from another state
would think

to get a 917 number.

That is a very distinct
New York thing.

- Right, if your story
is that you live in Atlanta,

there's really no reason
to pick the 917

unless you do live in New York.

All right, let's go
to her Instagram.

All right, so she's got
40 likes on this picture

which was from two days ago.

This was from five days ago.
30 likes, no comments.

And then this one that--
which is clear--

I mean that is obviously a
"this is my fiancée" caption.

- I call my best friend
my wife.

I call her my wife.
- Oh, so just like wife.

Like wifey.
- Wifey, yeah.

Like wifey like
this is my best friend.

It could also mean that.

- All right, but she
would've tagged her, right?

- Yeah.
- Yeah!

Someone else wrote,
"Who's this girl?

Why isn't she tagged?"
I mean--

- Hmm.
- And then here's Eris.

Right, and it says
she's from New York.

- Jayda has
a New York area code.

- Ooh, but it's private.

She could be involved
in this somehow, right?

- This is even more reason

to think it could be Eris.

- Yeah, 100%.
We should message Eris.

"Hey, Eris."

- "Hey, Eris, this is Nev
from 'Catfish.'

"Would love to chat quickly
with you

about Zay and the whole mess
she's in."

- So okay, so I wanna
look up jay.barbieee.

Let's search on Facebook.
- Yeah.

- Oh, man.
There are a bunch.

- Wait, that one right there.
Barbie Jayy.

Right above Barbie JY.
Barbie Jayy with the bun.

That's the same picture
that's on the Jayda account.

- Oh, is that her?
That is her.

Whoa, baby all over the--whoa.
- [gasps]

She's never mentioned
having a kid to Zay.

- I don't think so,
so that's the same girl.

Okay, so she's got
a Facebook page.

More photos.
Oh, there's this one, boom.

"Jay's Monday."
You were right.

Oh, there she was pregnant.
- [gasps]

From Brooklyn.
Lives in Augusta?

- Who's this?

Doesn't that kind of
look like her?

- So does the one
to the right of that.

- Oh, my God, how many
accounts does she have?

And why is she friends
with them?

What is this one?
"Backup page.

Positive vibes only."

Now we've got three profiles
that we found on Facebook.

Why does she have
so many Facebook pages?

- But now--is this the catfish,
or is this the real Jayda?

- I'm gonna message them all.

[dramatic musical sting]

- So what do we think?
Who is on our list?

Number one for me right now
is Eris.

- I think that theory
holds a lot of water.

We ran the photos
and we got nothing.

The phone number, untraceable.

The only thing we have found
is that there is someone

on Facebook who uses
the name Jayda Gilmore,

and in those profiles,
that girl has more photos,

she got pictures
of her and her kid.

- But if this is
the real Jayda,

then maybe she hasn't been
as honest and upfront

as it seems.

- Exactly.
- [bleep], it's stirring.

It's bubbling up.
The truth.

- Let's leave this all
on simmer for the night

and see what bubbles up
come morning.

- [vocalizes]

- ♪ Girl, we gotta
get outta town ♪

♪ A second longer
and I'll start freaking out ♪

♪ Hey, yeah ♪

- Oh.
Get it together.

Let's text Nev.

"Where you at?"

"Lampin'."

What is that?
[laughs]

You said you were lampin'.
- Yeah.

- What does that mean?
You were lamp shopping?

- Oh, I have a term
you don't know.

- There's probably
a good reason.

- No, no.
I will--look, I will show you.

Ready?
Look, watch this.

It's in the "Urban Dictionary."
"Lampin'.

"To just chill back and relax

while being
totally unproductive."

- So AKA coolin'.
AKA chillin'.

- Right, sure,
you could use other words,

but I used a word
you didn't know,

so that's my one--
it's my one time.

I'm going to enjoy it.

I'm gonna relish
in this moment.

- Congratulations.

- All right, so let's see
what's going on here

because a lot
happened yesterday.

- [sighs]
Yeah.

- So no response
or even receipt of being seen

on any of the messages
we sent for those Jayda pages.

We need to talk to Zay and
kind of give her the update.

Oh, there she is.
- Hey.

- What's up, Zay?

- I'm nervous as hell
because like

I wanna know who I've been
talking to for so long,

and I feel like it's been
this rise of anticipation

building
for the past five months,

so I'm just ready to see.

- Well, why don't we show you
what we found yesterday?

- Okay.
- I'll share my screen.

All right, so we searched all
the images that you sent us,

and actually a few others
off her Instagram,

and we didn't get any hits.

And when we ran
her phone number,

it just came back, you know,
with no information,

except that it could
potentially be

like a text app number.

- Right.

- But she has
a New York area code.

That's suspicious.
We did contact Eris.

We just are not ruling out
any suspects, of course, and--

- We haven't heard
anything back.

- Okay.

- When we went through
Jayda's Instagram,

on this picture, we noticed
this honey said,

"Who is this?
Why isn't she tagged?"

So we thought
that was interesting.

- Hmm.
- Then we searched Facebook.

You can see if you go down
a couple to here,

there was someone
that looked like Jayda.

- Jay--yeah.

- So we opened that page
and found this.

[dramatic musical sting]

- Hmm, okay.

- Which looks to be a page
for Barbie Jayy.

- Mm-hmm.
- A bunch of pictures,

some of which you've seen
like this one, right?

- Yeah, that's
on her Instagram.

- Okay, and then what's
even more interesting

is that when you go
to her "Friends,"

right here, Jayda Gilmore.

And look at this,
another Jayda Gilmore.

- Mm.

- And so, all of a sudden,
we started seeing

all these other profiles.

Here's one, Jayda Gilmore.
Here's another one.

And this one account especially
says that she had a baby.

[dramatic musical sting]

And there's pictures of a baby.

And here she is pregnant.
- Wow.

She never told me nothing
about that.

I didn't even know
she was pregnant.

Though like clearly,
she's dealing with a guy.

I'm assuming.
Like I had no idea.

- [sighs]

- If I am talking
to, you know, this Jayda,

it makes sense on why
when I do call her,

something like that,
or if you know,

she say, "Oh, I can't talk
right now, I'm busy."

Maybe that's her way
of kind of like hiding

that she has a kid,
like she don't wanna tell me.

I don't know.

I'm just thinking
'cause this is crazy.

- Clearly, she has a son,

and if this is the Jayda
that you are talking to,

why does her Instagram
not also reflect

the fact that she has a kid?

- I don't know.

- Well, the other possibility
here is that

someone found Jayda's profiles

and just made up
that Instagram account.

- Mm-hmm.

- Jayda doesn't seem to be
a shy, private person.

She shares a lot
on her Facebook pages,

so it makes me feel like
maybe it's just someone

who's using her pictures.

- At this point 'cause
none of this is adding up.

- Well, we messaged
each of the Jayda pages,

but we haven't heard
anything back from them.

The only other option
we haven't really pursued

is messaging the friends

of one of the Jayda profiles
on Facebook.

I think we could go through,
and message, and see

if they can tell us anything
about her.

- Okay.
- All right, let's see.

- Do you see that other page
for that Ky Gilmore?

- Oh, yeah.

- That looks like the same girl
that was on Instagram.

- Yeah, this looks like
the girl in the wifey pictures.

Hold on.
This--this one, right?

- Her.
- That's the same girl.

- Whoa.

- So we should message her.
- Okay.

"Hey, Ky."

[dramatic music]

Sent.
All right.

Hopefully someone
gets back to us.

- Okay.

- How would you feel about
if it's not the person

that you know, you know,
by the photos, then what?

- [sighs]

I'ma be really hurt.

Like I feel crushed right now
because for you to like--

basically, you played me.

Like why?
Like why me?

- ♪ Calling out ♪

♪ For you ♪

♪ In my absence ♪

♪ You kept your wits
about you ♪

- Why you have to go
all out your way

to do all this--you know,
all this stuff?

I have a lot of questions.
I want my questions answered.

And I want them to be
honestly answered.

- ♪ Why won't you
just say so? ♪

- Regardless of anything that
you've done with your marriage

and that stuff...
- Right.

- Like this is
your personal life.

You know, someone's
taking advantage of that.

That's [bleep].
- Yeah.

- I think you should
take a little break.

Understandably, you're upset,
so I wanna give you a chance

to sort of collect yourself
because hopefully,

we'll get in touch with someone
who can give us some answers.

- Okay.

- All right,
we'll talk to you soon.

- Okay.

- All right.
- Bye.

- ♪ Why won't you
just say so? ♪

- That makes me so sad.

[tense music]

♪ ♪

- Oh, I just got a message.
- From who?

- I have a response from Ky,

this girl
from Jayda's Instagram.

- Ooh.

- "Hello, Nev, yes, I can join.
Would you like to now?"

- Yes.

- So she asked for the ID,
so there it is.

All right, so she should be
joining any moment.

- [smacks lips]
Oh, my God.

[gasps]
Hi.

- I hear that New York accent.

- So we're doing
an episode of the show,

and we're trying
to help this girl

who thinks they're
talking to Jayda.

- [laughs]
- So no.

So we found you through one
of Jayda's Facebook pages,

but she has like a bunch

of different
Facebook pages, right?

- Okay.

- So here's the most
important question--

your sister, is she on
Instagram as jay.barbieee?

- Okay, and is she
in a relationship?

- Yeah.
[dramatic musical sting]

- Is there any chance
you could put us in touch

with your sister so that
we could just confirm that?

- Or she can just hop
in the Zoom.

- Oh.
- Hey.

- Jayda.

- Nice to meet you.

- You don't have an idea
of the entanglement

that we are all in
with this situation.

- We are entangled.
- So let me explain.

A young woman named Zay,
she wrote in because

for the last five months,
she's been talking to a girl

named Jayda.

And they met
on an Instagram account

called jay.barbieee.

- Okay, so you don't have
an active Instagram at all?

- And you're definitely not
talking to anyone named Zay?

- Okay.
- Mm.

- So Ky, if you could
leave the Zoom,

that way we could bring Zay in

and she could just hear
directly from your sister

that like this is not
who she's talking to.

- Yeah, well, thank you, Ky.
- Thank you, Ky.

All right, so now
let me get Zay in.

[eerie music]

♪ ♪

- Hey.
- Hi.

- Hey, Zay.

So this is Jayda.
- Mm-hmm.

- But not the Jayda
you've been talking to.

[dramatic musical sting]
- Okay.

- The Facebook pages
that we found are her,

but the Instagram account
is not her.

She doesn't even have
an active Instagram account.

- Mm.

- So we wanted you to just
be able to talk to her

and see her so that
you could understand

with real certainty that she's
not who you've been talking to.

[solemn music]

♪ ♪

- So you had no idea at all
about nothing?

- [sighs]

- And Jayda,
you're in a relationship.

- Someone obviously took
Jayda's pictures and her name

and created this fake
Instagram account.

- Okay.

- Just thank you for
at least talking to all of us

so we can figure
some stuff out.

I appreciate that.

- All right, Jayda,
thank you.

- Thank you, Jayda.

- Zay, are--are you all right?

- I feel really betrayed,
you know, by everything

that's been going on.

But in the same sense,
it's like--

but I feel like
it is my karma as well

because I was lying to my wife,

you know, at the end
of the day too,

so it's like I can't be mad
at nobody but myself.

I just really wanna find out
who I've been just talking to

at this point.

So what do we do next?
Like...

- I think we should
just text the number

that you have for Jayda.

- Right.

- So I'm gonna just do that
just to see if maybe

we get a response.

- Okay.
- "Hey, Jayda."

- If that's even
your real name.

- I'm just gonna say, "Hello,
this is Nev from 'Catfish.'

"I'd like to speak to you
to clear up a couple things

"about your relationship
with Zay

"and give you an opportunity
to explain yourself.

"Also, we know you are
not Jayda Gilmore.

"The rest of your truth

is still unknown."

All right, so that's sent.

- I mean, to be
completely honest,

the only person that I see

having the motive
to do something like this

is Eris.
[phone chimes]

- Oh, whoa.
Hold on, hold on.

I just got a message.
From "Jayda."

[dramatic music]

She said,
"If she knows that much,"

as in that she's not
the girl in the pictures,

"I don't think she'll
want to talk to me."

- Oh, I wanna talk.

[notification chimes]

- All right, now I have
an Instagram--hold on a second.

- What is happening?

- Oh, this is Eris.
She wrote back.

"When would you guys
love to talk?"

So...
- Hmm.

- I don't know now.
Let me just wait on that.

- But what are the odds
that Eris messages back

at the same time as Jayda?

- Right.
- That's suspicious.

- It is.

- Oh, wait, wait.
She just wrote back.

- "Jayda"?
- Yeah.

"This is about more
than just Zay and I.

Is Eris going to be there too?"

[dramatic musical sting]

- Did you ever tell Jayda
what your wife's name was?

- No.
- How would she know that?

- Right.
- I don't know.

- So clearly this is somebody
that knows us both.

- Or it's Eris.

- Oh, Lord Jesus.

- Hold on, she just texted.
She said,

"I really don't wanna do this,
but I will.

Please don't be mad at me."

So I said, "Okay,
whatever you prefer.

We're waiting in the Zoom
with open ears."

- What do they mean,
"Don't be mad at me"?

- I'm sweating.
[bell dings]

- Oh, [bleep].
- Oh, [bleep].

[suspenseful music]

- Hi.
Can you hear us?

♪ ♪

- Oh.

I can see a little bit
of you there.

Take your time.
No rush, we'll wait.

- I can't wait.
Come to the camera.

- [sighs]

- I can see a little bit
of you there.

Take your time.
No rush, we'll wait.

- I can't wait.
Come to the camera.

[tense music]

- [sighs]

♪ ♪

[eerie music]

- I'm sorry.

- Makeda.

- Somebody explain something.

What's going on?

- [sighs]

It wasn't Jayda that
you was talking to.

- Clearly!

- Just for our sake, can you
just kind of give us a

little bit of background as to
how you guys know each other?

- Um, we went
to college together.

- Okay.

And so, you made
the fake profile

for Jayda on Instagram?

- Yes.
- Why?

- Zay is a very
close friend to me,

and she was going through
a lot in her marriage,

and I just wanted
to like help her out.

I didn't really mean
for none of this to happen.

I don't really know
what to say to you.

You look disappointed.

- But why you couldn't
just come to me

as a regular friend?

Not had to fake some [bleep]
or lie?

Like this--your whole mental
and your motive behind this

was really stupid,
and I really hope that you--

- Not really.
- How is it not really?

- 'Cause clearly
it got you somewhere.

You wanted to leave Eris.
I tried to get you out of that.

And you wanted to be happy,
and I wanted to see you happy.

I just wanted you to see

that there was other options
out there.

- What was the strategy then
for the Jayda profile?

What was your concept
of how that would work?

- She was pretty, attractive.

I knew that Zay
would talk to her,

so it was a easy way
to get to her

for her to open up to me.

This is what you wanted.

- What do you mean when
you say "what you wanted"?

Explain that.

- This is what she wanted.
She wanted to leave Eris.

So I figured out a way
to get that to happen.

I mean what are you really
upset about exactly?

- The fact that it was
a very close friend of mine,

somebody that
I really did trust,

someone that I did love.

Like you was a really
good friend to me--

- So you don't love me
as a friend right now?

- I don't.
The love is the last thing--

- So all that went
out the window?

- It did.

- Just I don't know if I'm like
in "The Twilight Zone,"

or if I'm tripping, or what,

but Makeda, you look
very familiar.

- I...I thought so.

- Have you been
on the show before?

- Yes, I have.
- Oh.

You catfished Telizza.
Tell me what happened again.

- I was basically
catfishing her

because she was going through

like a hard time
with her boyfriend.

- I'm Max.
- Makeda.

I'm not a liar.
Like I'm really not.

I just did it because
it felt right at that moment.

- Clearly this is a pattern
that you have formed.

- All right, so let me
ask you a question.

Let's just for a moment,
put the past behind us

and just talk about Zay.

How did it go from you
trying to be a friend

and creating this profile
to encourage Zay

to make a good decision,
to you guys flirting

and talking about
starting a relationship?

- [clicks tongue]
I don't know.

It's just something
I really had to tell you,

but I just don't...

know how to say it.

- So tell us, please.
We're--we're...

it'll only help better
understand the situation

if you let whatever it is
that's weighing you down

off your chest.

- Me and Zay slept together.

And she know it's true.
- What?

- I told you
that was a mistake.

I don't wanna bring that up.
- Was it really a mistake?

- Zay, what the [bleep]?
- What the [bleep] is right.

Is that true?

- I mean like
as far as with Makeda,

that--like I didn't
really want that out.

- Wait, so you slept
with Makeda?

- This was like
three months ago, though.

- She came over,
one thing led to another,

that's what happened.

But what I really have
to tell you is that...

[sighs]

I slept with Eris as well

two days after
I slept with you.

- What?
- Makeda, shut the [bleep] up.

- What I really have
to tell you is that...

[sighs]

I slept with Eris as well

two days after
I slept with you.

- No, you didn't.

No, you didn't.
- I did.

- I'm not believing that

until I hear the same thing
out of Eris' mouth.

- We both know
how easy Eris is.

- You need to cut
your [bleep], Makeda.

Yes, we got our issues,
but you talking crazy

about my wife
at the end of the day.

You know how I feel about
that disrespectful [bleep].

- You don't wanna
hear the truth!

- I've been trying
to hear the truth!

That's what all
of this [bleep] is about.

Are you [bleep] dumb?

- Why can't we just get Eris
to come talk to us?

I think we really do need
to talk to her.

[solemn music]

Okay, I've invited Eris
to join us

so that we can all just
make sure we understand

what did and didn't happen.

- We not on good terms,
we not on the best terms,

but at the end of the day,
I know my wife

and I know that didn't happen.

- Eris just messaged,

and she said this is not
something she wants to do.

"Do I have to show my face?
I really don't want to."

So I said, "I understand, you
don't have to show your face,

but we need you here
to speak for yourself, please."

She said, "Okay, fine."

[notification chimes]

- Hello?
- Eris?

- Yes.

- So I'm just gonna sort of
set the stage here for you.

Eris, I think
you know Makeda.

It turns out she's the person

that made the profile
for Jayda

that Zay recently
told you about.

- Wow, this is ridiculous.
Oh, Lord.

- I'll let Zay kind of
take over and explain.

- I wanna tell you something

that I should've told you,
you know, back in like June.

I was over at Makeda's house,
and we slept together one time.

[eerie music]
- What the [bleep]?

I'm here being loyal
and committed to our marriage

regardless of what we've
been through and stuff.

I know that our situation
hasn't been great,

but that doesn't
give you the right

to go out and do
what you wanna do.

That's just not how that works

because if it was
the other way around,

I'm pretty sure that
you wouldn't be fond of that.

- Well, that's why
we wanted to talk to you.

Makeda claims that
you guys slept together.

- Oh, really?

[notification chimes]
both: Oh.

- Makeda, we did not
sleep together.

Maybe you guys slept together,

but I know I sure didn't
open up my legs to you.

- Stop lying, Makeda.

You don't think you look stupid
or delusional right now?

- I can't believe I'm being
lied on on my freaking vagina.

Like my vagina
is being lied on.

I'm confused.
Like why would you say that?

- Okay, well...

- You're crazy.

I broke your heart,
but you're the one

that pretended to be Jayda
for five months?

- So?
- You did that!

And I told you what it was
when we did sleep together.

Like you knew what it was,
so I'm confused

as to how I broke your heart
when we agreed on something

and to not speak
about it again.

- All right, so look, so let me
just get this straight.

So Makeda, you said that
you and Eris slept together

because you were hurt
when you found out

that the hookup with Zay
didn't mean

what you maybe
had hoped it would.

- Yes, that's what it was.

At the end of the day,
I mean I hope

that we can rekindle
this friendship.

Like I didn't mean to hurt Zay,
I didn't mean to hurt you.

- But you did.
- And I'm sorry for that.

- This is not a friendship
that can be rekindled

after you did what you did,
and I hope you know that.

Like you're the one that
was catfishing my spouse.

You're the one that slept
with my spouse behind my back

'cause you ain't
married to her.

I'm legally married to her,
not you or any other broad.

It's me.

- Okay, well,
like I said, I'm sorry.

- No, you're not.
- And if you don't--no, I am.

And if you don't wanna--if
y'all don't wanna be friends,

it's fine with me.

Like I'm done.
I don't wanna do this anymore.

Like I'm just finished
at this point.

- Okay, so I guess, Makeda,

we got all we needed to get
from you.

I just want to make sure
you understand

that while you claim
you had good intentions,

your strategy here

pretty much always ends
with someone getting hurt.

- Right.

- I hope this is the last time
we meet under these conditions,

but at least you showed up,
and we cleared this up

as best we could,
and we can all move on.

- Right.
Okay.

- All right, bye, Makeda.
- Bye.

- Zay, Eris, this has
obviously been a lot.

Was there anything else
that needs to be said

from anyone at the moment?

- Um, I do.

I just really wanna
apologize to Eris.

Regardless of
what happens between us,

I do love you
and I always will love you

and protect you
as best as I can.

- I don't--honestly,
I don't wanna hear your sorry.

I don't wanna hear
that you love me

because it don't feel like it.

- That's fair.

- At this point,
I'm just like--

I'm like over it.

- Are you done
with this marriage?

- Yes, I am.

And see you.
Speak to you guys whenever.

- Yeah.
Sorry about this.

- It's okay.

- All right, bye, Eris.
- Bye.

Are you gonna be okay?
- Yeah.

Now that I know the truth
and, you know,

everybody got
to say their piece

and speak about, you know,
all the situations,

I do feel better.

I'm sad just because I see
how it really affected Eris.

- Yeah, even though
this separation

was a long time coming,
it's tough.

I'm just glad we can
get you some answers

and finally clear up this mess.

- Thank you, guys.
I appreciate it.

- Be good, Zay.
All right?

- You too, guys.
Peace.

- All right.
- Thank you.

- Bye.
- Bye, guys.

- ♪ Some kind of sign ♪

♪ ♪

♪ Only if the direction ♪

♪ Giving inflection,
please don't hide ♪

♪ ♪

♪ There's somewhere for us ♪

♪ ♪

- We got Ryan.

He matches
with this cute girl, Micah.

She snapped you naked photos.

- With the face.
- Correct.

Face was there.
- Wow.

He sent nearly $500.

- Whoa.
- [gasps]

"I need to talk to you.
It's about Micah."

What?
[notification chimes]

- Oh, we got someone on Zoom.
Who the hell are you?

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