Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 7, Episode 2 - Alyssa & Tyler - full transcript
When a woman's friend urges her to sign up for a dating website, Nev and Max become suspicious of the "love of her life."
- My best friend, Mary,
she was like,
"You should go onto MocoSpace
and see if you can find someone
to talk to," and I met Tyler.
- Do you think it could
be Mary, the best friend?
- I do think it could be Mary.
- This could turn into
a major situation.
- Oh, wait, we got
a walker, guys.
- My heart's racing.
- You shoulda never called me
a fat-ass Kelly Price.
- For the past six years,
Max and I have been traveling
the world...
- Whoo!
- Helping people
find out the truth...
- What the [bleep]?
- About their online
relationships.
- I feel so stupid right now.
- Now, in our seventh season,
we'll cross
the hundred-episode mark.
- I can't wait to catch
a catfish creep.
Let's do it.
- Of course, since we started,
a lot's changed in my life.
I got married
to the most incredible
woman in the world,
and we have
the cutest baby ever.
- [giggles]
- Even though
my family's in LA,
I can't give up
traveling the country
to help people
meet their online loves.
- Hey!
[giggles]
- But I'm doing my best
to be home when I can.
I gotta go to work!
And I'm taking advantage
of Laura's perspective
on some of our cases.
- I just cracked the case.
- This is a big deal.
Because this season,
Max and I can use
all the help we can get.
- That's right.
We got a walker.
- Oh, my God.
My heart's racing.
- In an age
where everyone knows
everything about everybody,
people are getting
better and better
at hiding the truth.
both: What?
- There's his mugshot.
That's him?
♪ ♪
- Which is why,
this time around,
every episode
has double the secrets...
These are all connected
to that phone number.
- What?
- Double the surprises...
What the hell is this?
And double the reveals...
- There were some things
that she didn't tell you guys.
- That are going to seriously
blow your mind.
What?
Oh, boy. You [bleep] up.
This is "Catfish: The TV Show."
- If you want to have
a macro shot, like,
a really close-up shot,
you just push this,
go to macro.
- Don't--please
do not use any of this.
- Welcome back to teaching Max
how to use a video camera 101.
For the first six seasons of
the show,
he was just holding it.
It usually isn't even on.
- Like this?
All right, I'm recording now.
- He's recording.
All right, we're rolling.
Let's see what we got.
Alyssa.
"Dear Nev and Max,
my name is Alyssa.
I'm 20 years old,
and I'm from McAllen, Texas.
Six months ago
I met a great guy
from California named Tyler,
and we hit it off right away.
I gave him my number,
and we've been on the phone
every day since."
- ♪ Oh, baby,
won't you stop it ♪
♪ You and I haven't got it ♪
♪ Television romance ♪
- "At the time, I was having
serious problems
with my friends and family,
and Tyler was the one
who helped me through it.
I'm head over heels
for this guy
and would even say I love him.
We have recently been talking
about moving closer
to each other."
- ♪ I feel like you're getting
to me ♪
♪ And I know that's what you're
into ♪
- "We've made plans to visit
each other twice,
but both times Tyler
backed out.
The love I have for him
made me stay around.
Tyler means the world to me,
and I want him
in my life forever."
- ♪ Television romance ♪
"I need to know
the truth about Tyler.
Alyssa."
- ♪ Television romance ♪
Let's get her on the phone.
- All right.
- Alyssa.
- Hello.
- Hi.
- Hi.
- We just got your email.
You're 20 years old.
Are you in school?
- I'm trying to get
into this RN program.
- Why nursing?
- Because I care about people.
- Nice.
How'd you meet
this mystery man?
- Tyler?
- I met him on MocoSpace.
- What is that?
- It's, like,
a social media website
where it has, like,
open, like, chat rooms.
At the time I was going
through a lot with my parents,
so I was online, like,
looking for someone to vent to,
so I kind of just posted that
in the chat, like, publicly,
and he reached out to me.
Tyler is the love of my life.
I've grown to have these, like,
crazy feelings for him.
It's insane.
- Look at her light up.
She's just--she literally
has stars in her eyes
when she talks about him.
- He's someone that
I've confided in.
I've never really had someone
like that in my life.
- Why haven't you
video chatted?
- Well, he wasn't
comfortable enough
yet with me to, like,
actually video chat with me.
We've actually, like, tried to
meet up, like, twice already,
but he backed out last minute
because he was having
problems at home.
I was hurt.
That's when things
kind of started
getting suspicious to me.
Like, we've actually
never spoken on the phone.
- Wait, I thought you said
you've been on the phone
with him since you met him.
- It's been through, like,
texting, like, back and forth.
- Why don't you talk
on the phone?
- It's--it's always, like,
his excuse of,
"Babe, I'm not comfortable.
I don't really talk
on the phone."
- Does Tyler have, like,
a Facebook page
or Instagram or Snapchat
or any of that?
- I've never looked him up.
I know, I know, it sounds
ridiculous,
like, all these things,
but it's, like, I--I love him.
Like, there has to be
an explanation.
My life's on hold right now
for this one guy
that I'm in love with.
- All right, well, look,
we're gonna track down
this Tyler character.
- We'll be there soon.
- I'm so excited.
'Kay, bye.
both: Bye.
- All right, let's do it.
- All right, Texas, yee-haw!
- ♪ G-g-g-g-g-give me all of
it ♪
♪ D-don't stop ♪
♪ D-d-d-don't quit ♪
- Texas, rain on my parade.
So we got Alyssa, who's 20.
She meets this guy, Tyler.
They never talked on the phone
after over six months,
which is nuts.
- And she said she never even
looked for him on social media.
[phone chimes]
Who is this from?
- All right.
"Here's the address."
- All right.
Is this normal for Texas?
Looks like Florida.
It rains.
It's sunny.
Oh, this is it.
♪ ♪
- ♪ G-give me all of it ♪
both: Hey.
- Hey.
- What's up?
- Come on in.
- So this is your friend's
place?
- Yeah.
- But she's not here right now?
- No.
- Cool. Let's get to
the bottom of this.
Let's get the timeline
of how you met Tyler.
- So six months ago
I was having struggles
with my parents.
I feel like they don't
have trust in me
because when I was younger,
I was talking to people,
like, online, and, like,
my mom found out about it,
and she freaked out,
so because of that,
you know, like,
they started giving me
less and less privacy.
I'm 20 years old,
and when I go out with
my friends, like, it's like,
"Oh, like, yeah,
you can go out,
but, you know,
I want you home at 8:00."
I had a group of friends. They
got frustrated, and they left.
- They were just like,
"We're tired of hearing you
complain about your parents?"
- The only one that really,
like, stuck around
was my best friend, Mary.
She's supportive,
and she was like,
"You should go onto MocoSpace
and see if you can find someone
to talk to," so I did.
That night I went onto
MocoSpace, and I met Tyler.
- Wait, were you
with your friend?
- No, she wasn't with me.
- Had you already been
on that website,
or did you have to,
like, make a profile?
- I had to make a profile,
and he reached out to me
'cause he as well
had family problems,
and that was one of the main
things we connected over.
Finally someone who gets me.
He's, like,
the love of my life.
He's everything to me.
Like, he means so much.
- And if we were to find out
who Tyler was
and if you guys were
to fall in love,
you know, officially, you'd
consider moving to California?
- Absolutely.
I need to get out of here.
- It's all on
your phone, right?
- Yeah.
- Let's look at what you guys
are talking about.
Let's go right
to the source here.
- I'm gonna scroll up
a little bit.
- Go ahead.
- Oh, lots. Pshew!
It's a serious romance.
"I love you."
"I love you too."
"Can I get a kiss?"
He said, "Of course."
You guys are gross.
You said, "You're the best,"
and then he said,
"There's no way I'm the best
because how am I the best
when I'm talking
to the best, AKA you?"
- [laughs]
- He's so--
- You guys are--
this is pretty adorable.
I mean, it's--
- He's so ridiculous.
Like, he's so stupid.
Like, I'm usually
not that, like, lovey.
- No one should ever see
this text exchange.
- "By the way,
if I don't say much,
it's because I'm not
in the best mood.
Do you remember how I told you
a while ago
that my friend was sick
with pancreatic cancer?
He just passed away
this morning."
- The C word, that's not good.
- Well, a lot of the time
when people have plans
to meet up with someone...
- Someone gets in a car crash-
- Something happens.
- Or someone who has
cancer dies of cancer.
- Someone--right.
- No one has any other disease.
Cs, car crash, cancer.
I want to see a picture.
- Yeah, can we see
what he looks like?
- All right, super ripped.
- Ripped. Lots of mirror pics,
lots of ab shots.
How have you guys
not exchanged Instagrams?
I mean, this guy
definitely has an Instagram
and definitely
has a Facebook page.
- Right. Correct.
- Yeah.
- Listen to me, you are not
talking to this guy.
You're not.
- You've got to kind
of know that.
- That's not--
- Considering the fact that
you met him on this site
and that he won't talk
to you on the phone,
I'm sure we're not the first
time you've thought that,
like, maybe it's not this guy.
- I mean, I'm not gonna
100% agree with you,
but I see where
you're coming from.
Even if that is the case,
this person is still someone
that I want to say
I'm in love with.
- So what Tyler looks like
has no effect on how real
both--both of your feelings
are for each other?
- Right. This is someone
that's been there for me.
His appearance
means nothing to me.
- All right. So you've got
a best friend, Mary,
who is sweet and
sensitive and caring.
- Right.
- You're telling me Mary says,
"I know what you should do.
Go on MocoSpace,
and you'll meet someone,"
and then you go on MocoSpace,
and the first person
that texts you is Tyler,
who you don't speak
to ever on the phone.
You've never
heard Tyler's voice.
- No.
- Tyler seems to know
all the right things to say...
- Mm-hmm.
- But won't meet you in person.
- Yeah.
- Are you familiar
with the television star
Mary Tyler Moore?
- Yes.
- Do you understand
what Max is saying?
- Yes, I understand
what Max is saying.
- That your best friend
could be Tyler?
- Yes, but, like,
I don't think that's the case.
Like, she's my best friend.
- It is a strange coincidence.
- A co-inky.
- It's something to consider.
- Oh, it's--it's time overdue
for me to finally
find out the truth
after confiding in someone
who may possibly not
even be real.
- We're gonna help you
figure that out.
We're gonna get
through this together.
[speaking Spanish]
- [laughs]
- So anything you can send us,
put it in an email.
- Okay.
- Vamanos.
Good to meet you.
- You too.
- We'll talk to you later.
Send us that email.
- All right.
Sounds good. I will.
[tense music]
- He could not have picked
a more
obvious hot guy fake...
- The poor girl is very naive.
- The fact that they've never
talked on the phone
means Alyssa
could be talking to a woman.
Do you think it could be Mary,
the best friend?
- I do think it could be Mary.
- This situation could be
really terrible.
[together] ♪ Happy, happy
birthday ♪
♪ From the "Catfish" crew ♪
♪ Happy, happy birthday,
we wish the best to you ♪
Hey!
- Blow them out.
- Come on.
- Where are you going with
that?
[together]
Oh!
- Yay!
- Okay...
- That was nice.
- Happy birthday, buddy.
- All right, so look,
here's what we got.
Alyssa meets some guy
named Tyler on MocoSpace.
Because she's going
through a hard time
and he's really
helping her through it,
she gives him her number.
They start texting,
and from there it's, like,
constant texting
all day, every day,
but they haven't
talked on the phone,
which is possibly
the biggest red flag.
- And her best friend, Mary,
is still a suspect.
I think we both have a hunch
it could be a female.
- Let's all figure it out.
- I think I got it.
- Ain't nothing to it
but to do it.
- All right, here it is,
the email from Alyssa.
"Hey, Nev and Max,
here's all the info
I have to help
with finding Tyler.
I've attached all the photos
he sent me."
All right, here are the pics.
- Oh, yeah.
- Oh, my God.
I mean, look at this kid.
I think if I searched
"hot teenage boy,"
which I've never done before,
[laughter]
But seriously,
let's just--let's
just see what comes up
when we actually search
"hot teenage boy abs."
- Oh, you're adding
abs into that?
- I'm adding abs.
Okay, let's go to images.
both: Oh, my God!
- It's the first--
both: It's the first three!
- It's him.
- Hey, look,
there's more down here.
- Unbelievable.
- Oh.
- Oh, my God, literally
the internet definition of
"hot teenage boy abs."
- Oh, my God.
- This is awkward.
[laughs]
His name is Mike.
This is a real guy.
- It is a real guy.
- Okay, so this--
obvious catfish.
- We've got our man, so...
- Now let's find out who
the person actually is.
- All right. Let's do a search
for Tyler's phone number.
Oh, Cathy [bleep].
- In Sacramento?
- Cathy.
- It's a woman's name.
- In Sacramento,
and here's an address.
- So it is in California.
- Okay.
- But it's registered
to a woman named Cathy.
Now, that could be the mother.
- Right. Typically, a teenager
would have a phone
under a parent's name.
- Sure.
- But she has
a different last name.
All right, let's look up
Cathy [bleep] on Facebook.
Look at this, Cathy [bleep].
- Lives in Sacramento.
- But a fan
of the Dallas Cowboys.
Lives in Sacramento,
from Sacramento.
- There--that's got to be her,
but right,
she's tied to Texas somehow.
- Which is weird.
- It's a woman.
This could be the woman who's
actually talking to Alyssa.
- Number comes back registered
to Cathy [bleep],
which is either Tyler,
a middle-aged woman,
or Tyler's mother.
That's--doesn't fully
explain the last name.
- Well, we don't even know if
Tyler [bleep] is anyone's name.
- Let's do an Instagram search.
Look at this.
- Oh, Tyler [bleep].
- Oh, my God.
- Is this his Instagram page?
Where is this guy?
- I can't see,
'cause no information.
There's not one picture.
- And he only has one post.
- The Cowboys.
- Oh, man.
The Cowboys
is the dead giveaway.
- Yeah, we see that he's a fan
of the Dallas Cowboys.
Cathy [bleep]--
- Also Dallas Cowboys fan.
- Which would make sense
because if she's his mother,
that family just loves
the Cowboys.
We should look up
Tyler on Facebook.
- Right, she said
she never even looked
for him on Facebook.
- Ooh, there's a lot of them.
Okay, well, that's annoying.
Maybe search his
phone number on Facebook?
- Oh! What?
- I searched his phone number,
and it came up to a profile
for Tyler [bleep].
- Same last name as the guy
she's talking to.
Look, there's his--
- That's not a Cowboys.
- Whoa.
Look, there's a picture.
What?
- That's got to be him.
- So it's not Mary.
I really thought it was Mary.
- We know that the phone
number's registered
to Cathy [bleep].
- Cathy [bleep] the Cowboys fan
lives in Sacramento.
- He's a Cowboys fan.
- And lives in Sacramento.
- I think this is our guy.
- All right, we found him.
- All right, look, I think
we've got
very promising evidence.
- We've got some good leads.
We got some good leads.
That was a very--
- We're getting good at this.
- Put it there.
- Nice job.
- Happy birthday.
That was a birthday--
- That was.
- Your birthday luck.
- Hi.
- Hey. Good morning.
- Good morning. What's up?
- How are my girls?
- Good.
Cleo's down for first nap.
How's Texas?
- It's good.
We did our investigation
yesterday.
This guy's an obvious catfish.
We know it's obviously
not the guy in the pictures,
but we didn't find a ton
about the actual guy
except
for one profile on Facebook.
Usually we like to find
a little bit out
about the catfish and--
- Did--is it possible that he's
catfishing a bunch of people?
- I mean, he's got this profile
on MocoSpace, but...
- Yeah.
- We can't access,
like, his inbox.
- Come on, Nev.
- You want me to just hack
into the MocoSpace website?
- Well, I mean,
you've go--you have to have
some sort of technique.
- Yeah, we Googled
his phone number.
- Have you checked
all the social media?
- Yeah.
- Did you try running
the number on MocoSpace?
- I don't know
if you can do that.
I--let's see. Hold on a second.
I'm gonna try right now.
- Okay.
- All right, here's the number.
Whoa.
- Did you get something?
- This is a big deal.
- Go tell Max.
[line trilling]
- I got some info.
Why don't you come over?
- You got to see this.
- What?
- Check this out.
On the MocoSpace page
there's a way to search
using a phone number,
and in searching
the phone number...
- Yeah?
- These are all profiles...
- Whoa.
- Connected
to that phone number.
- What?
- All of these.
So there's tyler-_is-_sexy,
which is the one
he probably was using.
- Right.
- Then there's Brandon,
Michael.
- What? So he's using different
guys with different abs.
- Right. It's just--
- It's weird.
- It's weird.
It makes me think
that this is not...
- It's crazy.
- Just, like, a sort of
insecure nerd
but actually,
this guy is really creepy
and currently talking
to lots of girls.
This could turn into
a major situation.
- Hello?
- Come in.
- Hey.
- Hey.
- What's up? How are you?
- Nothing much. Okay.
- How are you?
- Good.
- How are you feeling?
- Nervous.
- Facing reality?
- Yeah.
- Pretty scary,
but we all got to do it.
- Yeah, that's true.
- We're gonna just walk you
through what we found.
We actually, I think,
more than usual found
a--like, kind of a lot.
Good news is we
don't think it's Mary.
So the first thing
we did yesterday
when we got back to our
hotel...
- Uh-huh?
- The very first thing
was a Google search
and typed in
"hot teen boy abs" into Google.
- Mm-kay.
- And look what came up, Tyler.
The first three
photos are Tyler.
- Mm-kay.
- I'm sorry.
These are not pictures
of Tyler. His name is Mike.
- Someone literally was like,
"Hmm, I need an avatar
for someone
that a girl is going to like.
Let me just type
in "hot teenage boy abs,"
took the first picture.
- So the laziest thing
a catfish could do would be
to use this guy.
Okay?
All right, let's keep going.
We needed to figure out
who this Tyler guy is,
so we ran his name,
and long story short,
eventually we found a Facebook
account named Tyler [bleep]
in Sacramento,
and there's one photo.
At this point we feel
as confident as we can
that the guy you're talking
to's name is Tyler.
He does live in Sacramento.
He's about 19 years old,
and I think this is him.
- I can't believe I've been
so blinded for this long.
I don't even know what to say.
I don't know
what to think, like--
- Obviously we were
curious to see
if the MocoSpace profile
was still up.
- Okay.
- So we went to MocoSpace,
and on the home page
there's a way to search
using a phone number,
so we ran the phone number,
and 12 profiles came up,
tyler-_is-sexy-_af,
tyler-_is-_hot-_af,
Brandon, Michael, I mean,
the guy's got
12 different profiles
that all are doing
the same thing actively.
You may not be the only
one he's talking to.
You probably aren't.
- That's so upsetting.
Like, he sits here and, like,
expresses these
feelings for me,
but it--I just don't understand
how someone even has,
like, the audacity
to do this to someone.
- ♪ 'Cause I need this
more than I knew ♪
♪ More than I'd like ♪
♪ More than you do ♪
I've been invested
in this person,
and for him to lie right off
the bat from day one...
- ♪ Tell me why ♪
♪ Good things die ♪
- We know Tyler's not the guy
in the pictures.
We know he has a lot
of other fake accounts,
but if there's any silver
lining to this,
it's that maybe
his real name is Tyler,
and it looks like
maybe he is 19,
and he actually does
live in Sacramento,
so some of what he's
told you might be true.
- So what do you
want to do now?
- I still want to know
who I'm talking to.
I still want to know who
I've been saying "I love you"
to, like, who I've confided in.
Like, I need answers.
I need the truth.
- Let's give this guy a call.
What do you say?
I get bad service in here.
All right, let's see if we can
get better service outside.
All right, here we go.
[line trilling]
- Please leave your message
for [bleep].
- Hello, Tyler, this is--oh.
Sorry, I ended that because
as I was leaving that message,
I got a text from Tyler,
"Who is this?"
"This is Nev..."
- I hope he says, "Who?"
- "From 'Catfish.'
Can we chat?"
- Well, we know where he is.
I say we just go.
- Well, we're going.
Oh, oh, oh, he just wrote back.
"I'm actually heading
to class right now."
- Mm.
- "We are coming
to Sacramento to meet you.
Find some time
to meet up with us?"
All right.
Well, hopefully he'll get back
to us after "class."
In the meantime let's just plan
on leaving tomorrow
and, like, figuring it out.
- Okay.
- Okay, go pack a bag.
- Morning.
- Good morning.
- ♪ I wear glasses
so that I can ♪
♪ See you better ♪
♪ I put shoes on so that we ♪
- Are you ready to pull that
lever in case of an emergency?
- Yes.
- I need to hear you
verbally say it.
- Yes.
- ♪ I wear glasses
so that I can ♪
♪ See you better ♪
- Heard from Tyler.
He said he'll meet us today.
There's a park called Miller
Regional Park that we can meet.
Let's head over there.
Let's not waste
any more time.
How are you feeling right now?
- I can't even begin
to understand, like, why me?
- It looks like he's got
a lot of other profiles.
- Right.
- Right, what is he
using them for?
Are there other Alyssas
out there?
He could just be
collecting people.
- I can't even understand how
someone can have the mentality
to do that to someone else,
and for someone who knows
how invested I am in this,
and they're playing me?
Like, it's [bleep] up.
- All right, well,
you ready for this?
- All right.
It's pretty down here.
I guess we just wait.
How you doing?
- I feel like I'm getting more
and more anxious by the second.
- Stay confident.
Defend yourself,
and let them know how you feel.
Someone's getting out
of their car right now.
- Who's this guy?
We got a walker, guys.
- Oh, my God.
My heart's racing.
- Someone's getting out
of their car right now.
Who's this guy?
We got a walker, guys.
- Oh, my God.
My heart's racing.
- Hi, Nev.
- Tyler.
- Nice to meet you.
- I just want to get
some things
out of the way.
How old are you?
- 19.
- You're 19?
And are you
a Dallas Cowboys fan?
- Yes.
- Okay.
Did you really have
a friend that had cancer?
- Yes.
- They passed away?
- Mm-hmm.
- I'm sorry to hear that.
So except for the photo,
everything you've told her
has been honest?
- Yes.
- How do you feel about Alyssa?
- She's the best thing
that ever happened to me.
I love her.
I really do love her,
love her and care about her.
- She's right in front of you.
- Yeah.
Alyssa came a long way
to meet you.
Whatever you need to say,
you should
say it, probably, to her.
- Yeah. I do regret sending you
the fake picture.
I was afraid that
if you saw the real me,
you wouldn't want to
talk to me anymore,
and I didn't want that at all.
I'm sorry.
- Like, do I really seem like
that type of person
who would judge
when you know my entire life
I've been judged?
- You honestly don't.
- Okay, so what's your excuse?
- It was just a really
rough time for me,
and I just was afraid.
- Why wouldn't you talk
to her on the phone?
- Because honestly, for me
it's easier to text.
- But why not just
an occasional phone call
just so, you know,
she could hear your voice,
and it would just make
you guys a little closer.
- Honestly, talking
on the phone
makes me a little uncomfortable
sometimes because
I don't know what to say,
and it's just easier
for me to text.
- Okay.
- Why did you create
the profile in the first place?
- I was on the internet
on my phone,
and I saw something
about MocoSpace,
and so I was, like, trying
to figure out what that was,
and then I clicked on it,
and I ended up
making the profile.
The only person I met
on there was Alyssa.
- But why do you have a lot
of fake accounts on MocoSpace?
- That's my question.
- I only thought I had the one.
- But your phone number comes
up
linked to all of the
other...
- 12 accounts.
- 12 accounts.
- I have no clue what any
of those other ones are.
Honestly, I don't.
- They're so similar to yours.
That's what's weird.
- Now is the time to come out
with everything and not lie.
We found those other profiles.
It was very devastating
to Alyssa.
I think she just wants to know
are you only talking to her?
- Yes.
- You're not talking
to anyone else?
- No. I honestly have no clue
about those other profiles.
I really don't.
- Okay.
- I--I don't know 100%
if I can believe everything
you're telling me.
You're not showing any emotion
towards what you're saying.
- Alyssa, I seriously am sorry
I made you feel any type of way
about me not being real.
Honestly, you are the best
thing that ever happened to me.
I love you.
- ♪ Could we be
something more ♪
♪ All that I'm hoping for ♪
- I don't know
if I can believe you.
♪ ♪
♪ I know you want me ♪
- I don't know if it's
the same anymore.
- ♪ But I've come close enough
for now ♪
- I'm sorry.
I need to walk away.
- ♪ Oh God you haunt me ♪
♪ I'm scared you'll leave me ♪
♪ In the ground ♪
♪ ♪
- [sobbing]
- It feels like you're lying.
We can't really figure a way
that there would be
12 nearly identical profiles
that are all linked
to the same phone number
if they're not yours.
- I don't know anything
about those other profiles.
I really don't.
- I feel like
I can't believe him.
- I want to,
but I don't know what's up
with those other profiles.
- It doesn't add up.
It doesn't make sense.
- I still love her.
I still care about her.
I'm still willing
to do anything for her.
Like I said, she's the best
thing that ever happened to me,
and nothing's
gonna change that.
- You're saying
all the right things,
but obviously you understand
that, like,
she's got to rethink
her relationship with you...
- Yeah.
- Now that she's
actually meeting you.
- Think of the things
you want to know,
and let's go back there
and ask him.
- I think I'm ready.
- You know, I think she's
probably feeling like,
you know,
"He said all these things,
and it was all bull[bleep]."
You know what I mean?
- Yeah.
- That's hard for her.
- So I think my biggest
question is why me?
- Because honestly,
when I was talking to you,
you helped me through
a lot of things. You did.
I can't tell you how much
I appreciate that.
You always made me laugh.
You always made me smile.
You have
the greatest personality
I've ever seen.
You're just really
special to me.
I would do anything for you,
and I swear on my mom's life
I really have no clue
about those other profiles.
I really don't.
- It's, like, really hard
for me to believe that.
Literally all 12
are linked to your number.
- I would not lie to you
except about the picture,
'cause I did lie to you
about that, I'll be honest,
but I wouldn't lie about this.
- If you really like Alyssa
and want a chance with her,
now is the time
to just come clean.
- I'm telling
the God-honest truth.
Those are not my profiles.
I have no idea
who created them,
and I'm being
dead serious on that.
- I'm sorry for making you
feel uncomfortable,
but you put me in a position
where I got hurt,
and I've been hurt
my entire life.
- We can make it work.
We can figure out some way
to make this work.
- Those added profiles
don't add up.
It doesn't make sense to me.
You denied my trust for you.
I don't think I have
anything more to say.
I feel bad for him.
I understand why he did it,
but it's still no excuse.
I felt like he was just saying
what I wanted to hear.
- Well, that's what he's been
doing for the last six months.
- True.
- You did really good.
Let's say he does
come clean tomorrow.
What then?
- Would you date him?
Yeah.
- I think so.
- Then look, the door
is still open.
- Do we want to push him
on the profiles?
- How do you feel, Alyssa,
about it?
Only if you wanted to get
into a relationship with him
now would I demand
a clear answer on that.
- I feel like that's the big
reason why I don't.
- 'Cause he's not coming
clean about that?
- Right. I feel like
he's not coming clean.
- Here it is.
Hey.
- Come on in.
You guys can just take a seat.
- So have you thought about
what happened yesterday?
- Yeah.
- I still think
it's a little weird
that there would be
12 nearly-identical profiles
that are all linked
to the same phone number
if they're not yours.
Are they yours?
- No.
- Tyler, I think
you're a good guy.
I think you've got a big heart.
I think you feel genuinely
about Alyssa.
I think you do care about her,
but I'm pretty sure
those profiles are yours
whether you want
to admit to it or not,
but if you don't
feel comfortable
telling Nev and I the truth,
we can leave the room,
and you can talk to Alyssa.
- Well, I think it'd be best
if I don't sugarcoat things.
I have a gut feeling
that you're not being
100% honest with me.
- I get that you are skeptical
right now,
and I completely
understand that.
You have every right to be.
My honest intention
was not to hurt you.
I've always been
very self-conscious.
In high school I received
letters that said things like,
"Everyone would be better off
if you were dead,"
that I was ugly, that I was--no
one would ever care about me,
and eventually I started
believing it myself.
I felt like every girl
I pretty much talk to
is gonna end up
rejecting me at some point,
so when I put that picture up,
it was a defense mechanism,
and when I met you,
you made me happy.
- I feel like these stories
that you're saying are excuses.
We all go through [bleep].
That's life,
but you don't
see me going to someone else
and doing what you did to me.
- I know that things aren't
great between us right now.
- They're not, not even close.
- I'm still here for you.
I still love you.
I still care about you.
With time we can get things
back to the way they were.
- I don't know if I have
that time of day,
and I don't mean
to make you upset.
I'm just trying to be real.
Okay.
- You can walk me out.
- You guys done for--for now?
- Yeah.
- Good luck.
- Thank you.
- Good luck.
- Thanks.
- Be good.
- All right.
- I know it didn't end with
everything feeling good,
but you handled the situation
really, really well.
- It's a shame because
if he had been honest,
maybe it could have worked out.
- It's just like he has these--
all these good qualities,
but, like, he has
a lot of growing up to do.
- And so do you,
in a different way,
but you are further
along than he is.
- Yeah. I feel like
I've grown up a lot.
- Alyssa.
- Hey.
- How is everything?
- I'm just focusing on school
and focusing on work.
- What about Tyler?
Have you talked to him?
- He's reached out to me.
He was like,
"Oh, hey, I can't stand
not talking to you every day."
It just kind of made me feel
like he wasn't respecting
my decision.
- Even though you told him
you needed some space.
- Yeah, so we haven't
talked since.
- Well, look, you're--seems
like you're doing
all the right things,
taking all the right steps.
That's all you can do.
- Yeah.
- All right.
- All right, Alyssa, bye.
- Bye.
- Talk soon.
- Tyler.
- Hey.
- How has everything been
since we saw you?
- It's been rough, but I'm
getting through it, so...
- You miss her?
- Oh, yeah.
There is something
I wanted to tell you guys.
I've been thinking
about the profiles.
- Wait, wait, time-out.
I think Alyssa should
probably hear this.
Would you be open
to conference calling her?
- Yeah.
- All right, get ready.
Here she comes.
Hey, guys. Tyler was going
to tell us some things,
and I think he should
tell them to you.
- Mm-kay.
- What I wanted to tell you is
that when you were here,
I said those profiles
weren't mine, they were.
I really
never used those profiles.
I only went on there to play
games and things like that.
I shouldn't have lied,
and I'm sorry I did.
I was just really nervous.
I was really afraid, and I just
really wanted you to like me.
- I do appreciate the fact that
you're finally being honest
with me, like,
but I need my space.
I'm just trying
to move forward.
- It's movement
in the right direction.
Tyler understands that
he shouldn't have lied to you,
but people make mistakes.
Alyssa, you've now heard him
tell you the truth
about something that you knew
he was lying about,
so hopefully there's
some room now;
there's a little
opening for closure.
- Right.
- All right, guys, take care.
- Bye.
- Bye.
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00:41:23.
she was like,
"You should go onto MocoSpace
and see if you can find someone
to talk to," and I met Tyler.
- Do you think it could
be Mary, the best friend?
- I do think it could be Mary.
- This could turn into
a major situation.
- Oh, wait, we got
a walker, guys.
- My heart's racing.
- You shoulda never called me
a fat-ass Kelly Price.
- For the past six years,
Max and I have been traveling
the world...
- Whoo!
- Helping people
find out the truth...
- What the [bleep]?
- About their online
relationships.
- I feel so stupid right now.
- Now, in our seventh season,
we'll cross
the hundred-episode mark.
- I can't wait to catch
a catfish creep.
Let's do it.
- Of course, since we started,
a lot's changed in my life.
I got married
to the most incredible
woman in the world,
and we have
the cutest baby ever.
- [giggles]
- Even though
my family's in LA,
I can't give up
traveling the country
to help people
meet their online loves.
- Hey!
[giggles]
- But I'm doing my best
to be home when I can.
I gotta go to work!
And I'm taking advantage
of Laura's perspective
on some of our cases.
- I just cracked the case.
- This is a big deal.
Because this season,
Max and I can use
all the help we can get.
- That's right.
We got a walker.
- Oh, my God.
My heart's racing.
- In an age
where everyone knows
everything about everybody,
people are getting
better and better
at hiding the truth.
both: What?
- There's his mugshot.
That's him?
♪ ♪
- Which is why,
this time around,
every episode
has double the secrets...
These are all connected
to that phone number.
- What?
- Double the surprises...
What the hell is this?
And double the reveals...
- There were some things
that she didn't tell you guys.
- That are going to seriously
blow your mind.
What?
Oh, boy. You [bleep] up.
This is "Catfish: The TV Show."
- If you want to have
a macro shot, like,
a really close-up shot,
you just push this,
go to macro.
- Don't--please
do not use any of this.
- Welcome back to teaching Max
how to use a video camera 101.
For the first six seasons of
the show,
he was just holding it.
It usually isn't even on.
- Like this?
All right, I'm recording now.
- He's recording.
All right, we're rolling.
Let's see what we got.
Alyssa.
"Dear Nev and Max,
my name is Alyssa.
I'm 20 years old,
and I'm from McAllen, Texas.
Six months ago
I met a great guy
from California named Tyler,
and we hit it off right away.
I gave him my number,
and we've been on the phone
every day since."
- ♪ Oh, baby,
won't you stop it ♪
♪ You and I haven't got it ♪
♪ Television romance ♪
- "At the time, I was having
serious problems
with my friends and family,
and Tyler was the one
who helped me through it.
I'm head over heels
for this guy
and would even say I love him.
We have recently been talking
about moving closer
to each other."
- ♪ I feel like you're getting
to me ♪
♪ And I know that's what you're
into ♪
- "We've made plans to visit
each other twice,
but both times Tyler
backed out.
The love I have for him
made me stay around.
Tyler means the world to me,
and I want him
in my life forever."
- ♪ Television romance ♪
"I need to know
the truth about Tyler.
Alyssa."
- ♪ Television romance ♪
Let's get her on the phone.
- All right.
- Alyssa.
- Hello.
- Hi.
- Hi.
- We just got your email.
You're 20 years old.
Are you in school?
- I'm trying to get
into this RN program.
- Why nursing?
- Because I care about people.
- Nice.
How'd you meet
this mystery man?
- Tyler?
- I met him on MocoSpace.
- What is that?
- It's, like,
a social media website
where it has, like,
open, like, chat rooms.
At the time I was going
through a lot with my parents,
so I was online, like,
looking for someone to vent to,
so I kind of just posted that
in the chat, like, publicly,
and he reached out to me.
Tyler is the love of my life.
I've grown to have these, like,
crazy feelings for him.
It's insane.
- Look at her light up.
She's just--she literally
has stars in her eyes
when she talks about him.
- He's someone that
I've confided in.
I've never really had someone
like that in my life.
- Why haven't you
video chatted?
- Well, he wasn't
comfortable enough
yet with me to, like,
actually video chat with me.
We've actually, like, tried to
meet up, like, twice already,
but he backed out last minute
because he was having
problems at home.
I was hurt.
That's when things
kind of started
getting suspicious to me.
Like, we've actually
never spoken on the phone.
- Wait, I thought you said
you've been on the phone
with him since you met him.
- It's been through, like,
texting, like, back and forth.
- Why don't you talk
on the phone?
- It's--it's always, like,
his excuse of,
"Babe, I'm not comfortable.
I don't really talk
on the phone."
- Does Tyler have, like,
a Facebook page
or Instagram or Snapchat
or any of that?
- I've never looked him up.
I know, I know, it sounds
ridiculous,
like, all these things,
but it's, like, I--I love him.
Like, there has to be
an explanation.
My life's on hold right now
for this one guy
that I'm in love with.
- All right, well, look,
we're gonna track down
this Tyler character.
- We'll be there soon.
- I'm so excited.
'Kay, bye.
both: Bye.
- All right, let's do it.
- All right, Texas, yee-haw!
- ♪ G-g-g-g-g-give me all of
it ♪
♪ D-don't stop ♪
♪ D-d-d-don't quit ♪
- Texas, rain on my parade.
So we got Alyssa, who's 20.
She meets this guy, Tyler.
They never talked on the phone
after over six months,
which is nuts.
- And she said she never even
looked for him on social media.
[phone chimes]
Who is this from?
- All right.
"Here's the address."
- All right.
Is this normal for Texas?
Looks like Florida.
It rains.
It's sunny.
Oh, this is it.
♪ ♪
- ♪ G-give me all of it ♪
both: Hey.
- Hey.
- What's up?
- Come on in.
- So this is your friend's
place?
- Yeah.
- But she's not here right now?
- No.
- Cool. Let's get to
the bottom of this.
Let's get the timeline
of how you met Tyler.
- So six months ago
I was having struggles
with my parents.
I feel like they don't
have trust in me
because when I was younger,
I was talking to people,
like, online, and, like,
my mom found out about it,
and she freaked out,
so because of that,
you know, like,
they started giving me
less and less privacy.
I'm 20 years old,
and when I go out with
my friends, like, it's like,
"Oh, like, yeah,
you can go out,
but, you know,
I want you home at 8:00."
I had a group of friends. They
got frustrated, and they left.
- They were just like,
"We're tired of hearing you
complain about your parents?"
- The only one that really,
like, stuck around
was my best friend, Mary.
She's supportive,
and she was like,
"You should go onto MocoSpace
and see if you can find someone
to talk to," so I did.
That night I went onto
MocoSpace, and I met Tyler.
- Wait, were you
with your friend?
- No, she wasn't with me.
- Had you already been
on that website,
or did you have to,
like, make a profile?
- I had to make a profile,
and he reached out to me
'cause he as well
had family problems,
and that was one of the main
things we connected over.
Finally someone who gets me.
He's, like,
the love of my life.
He's everything to me.
Like, he means so much.
- And if we were to find out
who Tyler was
and if you guys were
to fall in love,
you know, officially, you'd
consider moving to California?
- Absolutely.
I need to get out of here.
- It's all on
your phone, right?
- Yeah.
- Let's look at what you guys
are talking about.
Let's go right
to the source here.
- I'm gonna scroll up
a little bit.
- Go ahead.
- Oh, lots. Pshew!
It's a serious romance.
"I love you."
"I love you too."
"Can I get a kiss?"
He said, "Of course."
You guys are gross.
You said, "You're the best,"
and then he said,
"There's no way I'm the best
because how am I the best
when I'm talking
to the best, AKA you?"
- [laughs]
- He's so--
- You guys are--
this is pretty adorable.
I mean, it's--
- He's so ridiculous.
Like, he's so stupid.
Like, I'm usually
not that, like, lovey.
- No one should ever see
this text exchange.
- "By the way,
if I don't say much,
it's because I'm not
in the best mood.
Do you remember how I told you
a while ago
that my friend was sick
with pancreatic cancer?
He just passed away
this morning."
- The C word, that's not good.
- Well, a lot of the time
when people have plans
to meet up with someone...
- Someone gets in a car crash-
- Something happens.
- Or someone who has
cancer dies of cancer.
- Someone--right.
- No one has any other disease.
Cs, car crash, cancer.
I want to see a picture.
- Yeah, can we see
what he looks like?
- All right, super ripped.
- Ripped. Lots of mirror pics,
lots of ab shots.
How have you guys
not exchanged Instagrams?
I mean, this guy
definitely has an Instagram
and definitely
has a Facebook page.
- Right. Correct.
- Yeah.
- Listen to me, you are not
talking to this guy.
You're not.
- You've got to kind
of know that.
- That's not--
- Considering the fact that
you met him on this site
and that he won't talk
to you on the phone,
I'm sure we're not the first
time you've thought that,
like, maybe it's not this guy.
- I mean, I'm not gonna
100% agree with you,
but I see where
you're coming from.
Even if that is the case,
this person is still someone
that I want to say
I'm in love with.
- So what Tyler looks like
has no effect on how real
both--both of your feelings
are for each other?
- Right. This is someone
that's been there for me.
His appearance
means nothing to me.
- All right. So you've got
a best friend, Mary,
who is sweet and
sensitive and caring.
- Right.
- You're telling me Mary says,
"I know what you should do.
Go on MocoSpace,
and you'll meet someone,"
and then you go on MocoSpace,
and the first person
that texts you is Tyler,
who you don't speak
to ever on the phone.
You've never
heard Tyler's voice.
- No.
- Tyler seems to know
all the right things to say...
- Mm-hmm.
- But won't meet you in person.
- Yeah.
- Are you familiar
with the television star
Mary Tyler Moore?
- Yes.
- Do you understand
what Max is saying?
- Yes, I understand
what Max is saying.
- That your best friend
could be Tyler?
- Yes, but, like,
I don't think that's the case.
Like, she's my best friend.
- It is a strange coincidence.
- A co-inky.
- It's something to consider.
- Oh, it's--it's time overdue
for me to finally
find out the truth
after confiding in someone
who may possibly not
even be real.
- We're gonna help you
figure that out.
We're gonna get
through this together.
[speaking Spanish]
- [laughs]
- So anything you can send us,
put it in an email.
- Okay.
- Vamanos.
Good to meet you.
- You too.
- We'll talk to you later.
Send us that email.
- All right.
Sounds good. I will.
[tense music]
- He could not have picked
a more
obvious hot guy fake...
- The poor girl is very naive.
- The fact that they've never
talked on the phone
means Alyssa
could be talking to a woman.
Do you think it could be Mary,
the best friend?
- I do think it could be Mary.
- This situation could be
really terrible.
[together] ♪ Happy, happy
birthday ♪
♪ From the "Catfish" crew ♪
♪ Happy, happy birthday,
we wish the best to you ♪
Hey!
- Blow them out.
- Come on.
- Where are you going with
that?
[together]
Oh!
- Yay!
- Okay...
- That was nice.
- Happy birthday, buddy.
- All right, so look,
here's what we got.
Alyssa meets some guy
named Tyler on MocoSpace.
Because she's going
through a hard time
and he's really
helping her through it,
she gives him her number.
They start texting,
and from there it's, like,
constant texting
all day, every day,
but they haven't
talked on the phone,
which is possibly
the biggest red flag.
- And her best friend, Mary,
is still a suspect.
I think we both have a hunch
it could be a female.
- Let's all figure it out.
- I think I got it.
- Ain't nothing to it
but to do it.
- All right, here it is,
the email from Alyssa.
"Hey, Nev and Max,
here's all the info
I have to help
with finding Tyler.
I've attached all the photos
he sent me."
All right, here are the pics.
- Oh, yeah.
- Oh, my God.
I mean, look at this kid.
I think if I searched
"hot teenage boy,"
which I've never done before,
[laughter]
But seriously,
let's just--let's
just see what comes up
when we actually search
"hot teenage boy abs."
- Oh, you're adding
abs into that?
- I'm adding abs.
Okay, let's go to images.
both: Oh, my God!
- It's the first--
both: It's the first three!
- It's him.
- Hey, look,
there's more down here.
- Unbelievable.
- Oh.
- Oh, my God, literally
the internet definition of
"hot teenage boy abs."
- Oh, my God.
- This is awkward.
[laughs]
His name is Mike.
This is a real guy.
- It is a real guy.
- Okay, so this--
obvious catfish.
- We've got our man, so...
- Now let's find out who
the person actually is.
- All right. Let's do a search
for Tyler's phone number.
Oh, Cathy [bleep].
- In Sacramento?
- Cathy.
- It's a woman's name.
- In Sacramento,
and here's an address.
- So it is in California.
- Okay.
- But it's registered
to a woman named Cathy.
Now, that could be the mother.
- Right. Typically, a teenager
would have a phone
under a parent's name.
- Sure.
- But she has
a different last name.
All right, let's look up
Cathy [bleep] on Facebook.
Look at this, Cathy [bleep].
- Lives in Sacramento.
- But a fan
of the Dallas Cowboys.
Lives in Sacramento,
from Sacramento.
- There--that's got to be her,
but right,
she's tied to Texas somehow.
- Which is weird.
- It's a woman.
This could be the woman who's
actually talking to Alyssa.
- Number comes back registered
to Cathy [bleep],
which is either Tyler,
a middle-aged woman,
or Tyler's mother.
That's--doesn't fully
explain the last name.
- Well, we don't even know if
Tyler [bleep] is anyone's name.
- Let's do an Instagram search.
Look at this.
- Oh, Tyler [bleep].
- Oh, my God.
- Is this his Instagram page?
Where is this guy?
- I can't see,
'cause no information.
There's not one picture.
- And he only has one post.
- The Cowboys.
- Oh, man.
The Cowboys
is the dead giveaway.
- Yeah, we see that he's a fan
of the Dallas Cowboys.
Cathy [bleep]--
- Also Dallas Cowboys fan.
- Which would make sense
because if she's his mother,
that family just loves
the Cowboys.
We should look up
Tyler on Facebook.
- Right, she said
she never even looked
for him on Facebook.
- Ooh, there's a lot of them.
Okay, well, that's annoying.
Maybe search his
phone number on Facebook?
- Oh! What?
- I searched his phone number,
and it came up to a profile
for Tyler [bleep].
- Same last name as the guy
she's talking to.
Look, there's his--
- That's not a Cowboys.
- Whoa.
Look, there's a picture.
What?
- That's got to be him.
- So it's not Mary.
I really thought it was Mary.
- We know that the phone
number's registered
to Cathy [bleep].
- Cathy [bleep] the Cowboys fan
lives in Sacramento.
- He's a Cowboys fan.
- And lives in Sacramento.
- I think this is our guy.
- All right, we found him.
- All right, look, I think
we've got
very promising evidence.
- We've got some good leads.
We got some good leads.
That was a very--
- We're getting good at this.
- Put it there.
- Nice job.
- Happy birthday.
That was a birthday--
- That was.
- Your birthday luck.
- Hi.
- Hey. Good morning.
- Good morning. What's up?
- How are my girls?
- Good.
Cleo's down for first nap.
How's Texas?
- It's good.
We did our investigation
yesterday.
This guy's an obvious catfish.
We know it's obviously
not the guy in the pictures,
but we didn't find a ton
about the actual guy
except
for one profile on Facebook.
Usually we like to find
a little bit out
about the catfish and--
- Did--is it possible that he's
catfishing a bunch of people?
- I mean, he's got this profile
on MocoSpace, but...
- Yeah.
- We can't access,
like, his inbox.
- Come on, Nev.
- You want me to just hack
into the MocoSpace website?
- Well, I mean,
you've go--you have to have
some sort of technique.
- Yeah, we Googled
his phone number.
- Have you checked
all the social media?
- Yeah.
- Did you try running
the number on MocoSpace?
- I don't know
if you can do that.
I--let's see. Hold on a second.
I'm gonna try right now.
- Okay.
- All right, here's the number.
Whoa.
- Did you get something?
- This is a big deal.
- Go tell Max.
[line trilling]
- I got some info.
Why don't you come over?
- You got to see this.
- What?
- Check this out.
On the MocoSpace page
there's a way to search
using a phone number,
and in searching
the phone number...
- Yeah?
- These are all profiles...
- Whoa.
- Connected
to that phone number.
- What?
- All of these.
So there's tyler-_is-_sexy,
which is the one
he probably was using.
- Right.
- Then there's Brandon,
Michael.
- What? So he's using different
guys with different abs.
- Right. It's just--
- It's weird.
- It's weird.
It makes me think
that this is not...
- It's crazy.
- Just, like, a sort of
insecure nerd
but actually,
this guy is really creepy
and currently talking
to lots of girls.
This could turn into
a major situation.
- Hello?
- Come in.
- Hey.
- Hey.
- What's up? How are you?
- Nothing much. Okay.
- How are you?
- Good.
- How are you feeling?
- Nervous.
- Facing reality?
- Yeah.
- Pretty scary,
but we all got to do it.
- Yeah, that's true.
- We're gonna just walk you
through what we found.
We actually, I think,
more than usual found
a--like, kind of a lot.
Good news is we
don't think it's Mary.
So the first thing
we did yesterday
when we got back to our
hotel...
- Uh-huh?
- The very first thing
was a Google search
and typed in
"hot teen boy abs" into Google.
- Mm-kay.
- And look what came up, Tyler.
The first three
photos are Tyler.
- Mm-kay.
- I'm sorry.
These are not pictures
of Tyler. His name is Mike.
- Someone literally was like,
"Hmm, I need an avatar
for someone
that a girl is going to like.
Let me just type
in "hot teenage boy abs,"
took the first picture.
- So the laziest thing
a catfish could do would be
to use this guy.
Okay?
All right, let's keep going.
We needed to figure out
who this Tyler guy is,
so we ran his name,
and long story short,
eventually we found a Facebook
account named Tyler [bleep]
in Sacramento,
and there's one photo.
At this point we feel
as confident as we can
that the guy you're talking
to's name is Tyler.
He does live in Sacramento.
He's about 19 years old,
and I think this is him.
- I can't believe I've been
so blinded for this long.
I don't even know what to say.
I don't know
what to think, like--
- Obviously we were
curious to see
if the MocoSpace profile
was still up.
- Okay.
- So we went to MocoSpace,
and on the home page
there's a way to search
using a phone number,
so we ran the phone number,
and 12 profiles came up,
tyler-_is-sexy-_af,
tyler-_is-_hot-_af,
Brandon, Michael, I mean,
the guy's got
12 different profiles
that all are doing
the same thing actively.
You may not be the only
one he's talking to.
You probably aren't.
- That's so upsetting.
Like, he sits here and, like,
expresses these
feelings for me,
but it--I just don't understand
how someone even has,
like, the audacity
to do this to someone.
- ♪ 'Cause I need this
more than I knew ♪
♪ More than I'd like ♪
♪ More than you do ♪
I've been invested
in this person,
and for him to lie right off
the bat from day one...
- ♪ Tell me why ♪
♪ Good things die ♪
- We know Tyler's not the guy
in the pictures.
We know he has a lot
of other fake accounts,
but if there's any silver
lining to this,
it's that maybe
his real name is Tyler,
and it looks like
maybe he is 19,
and he actually does
live in Sacramento,
so some of what he's
told you might be true.
- So what do you
want to do now?
- I still want to know
who I'm talking to.
I still want to know who
I've been saying "I love you"
to, like, who I've confided in.
Like, I need answers.
I need the truth.
- Let's give this guy a call.
What do you say?
I get bad service in here.
All right, let's see if we can
get better service outside.
All right, here we go.
[line trilling]
- Please leave your message
for [bleep].
- Hello, Tyler, this is--oh.
Sorry, I ended that because
as I was leaving that message,
I got a text from Tyler,
"Who is this?"
"This is Nev..."
- I hope he says, "Who?"
- "From 'Catfish.'
Can we chat?"
- Well, we know where he is.
I say we just go.
- Well, we're going.
Oh, oh, oh, he just wrote back.
"I'm actually heading
to class right now."
- Mm.
- "We are coming
to Sacramento to meet you.
Find some time
to meet up with us?"
All right.
Well, hopefully he'll get back
to us after "class."
In the meantime let's just plan
on leaving tomorrow
and, like, figuring it out.
- Okay.
- Okay, go pack a bag.
- Morning.
- Good morning.
- ♪ I wear glasses
so that I can ♪
♪ See you better ♪
♪ I put shoes on so that we ♪
- Are you ready to pull that
lever in case of an emergency?
- Yes.
- I need to hear you
verbally say it.
- Yes.
- ♪ I wear glasses
so that I can ♪
♪ See you better ♪
- Heard from Tyler.
He said he'll meet us today.
There's a park called Miller
Regional Park that we can meet.
Let's head over there.
Let's not waste
any more time.
How are you feeling right now?
- I can't even begin
to understand, like, why me?
- It looks like he's got
a lot of other profiles.
- Right.
- Right, what is he
using them for?
Are there other Alyssas
out there?
He could just be
collecting people.
- I can't even understand how
someone can have the mentality
to do that to someone else,
and for someone who knows
how invested I am in this,
and they're playing me?
Like, it's [bleep] up.
- All right, well,
you ready for this?
- All right.
It's pretty down here.
I guess we just wait.
How you doing?
- I feel like I'm getting more
and more anxious by the second.
- Stay confident.
Defend yourself,
and let them know how you feel.
Someone's getting out
of their car right now.
- Who's this guy?
We got a walker, guys.
- Oh, my God.
My heart's racing.
- Someone's getting out
of their car right now.
Who's this guy?
We got a walker, guys.
- Oh, my God.
My heart's racing.
- Hi, Nev.
- Tyler.
- Nice to meet you.
- I just want to get
some things
out of the way.
How old are you?
- 19.
- You're 19?
And are you
a Dallas Cowboys fan?
- Yes.
- Okay.
Did you really have
a friend that had cancer?
- Yes.
- They passed away?
- Mm-hmm.
- I'm sorry to hear that.
So except for the photo,
everything you've told her
has been honest?
- Yes.
- How do you feel about Alyssa?
- She's the best thing
that ever happened to me.
I love her.
I really do love her,
love her and care about her.
- She's right in front of you.
- Yeah.
Alyssa came a long way
to meet you.
Whatever you need to say,
you should
say it, probably, to her.
- Yeah. I do regret sending you
the fake picture.
I was afraid that
if you saw the real me,
you wouldn't want to
talk to me anymore,
and I didn't want that at all.
I'm sorry.
- Like, do I really seem like
that type of person
who would judge
when you know my entire life
I've been judged?
- You honestly don't.
- Okay, so what's your excuse?
- It was just a really
rough time for me,
and I just was afraid.
- Why wouldn't you talk
to her on the phone?
- Because honestly, for me
it's easier to text.
- But why not just
an occasional phone call
just so, you know,
she could hear your voice,
and it would just make
you guys a little closer.
- Honestly, talking
on the phone
makes me a little uncomfortable
sometimes because
I don't know what to say,
and it's just easier
for me to text.
- Okay.
- Why did you create
the profile in the first place?
- I was on the internet
on my phone,
and I saw something
about MocoSpace,
and so I was, like, trying
to figure out what that was,
and then I clicked on it,
and I ended up
making the profile.
The only person I met
on there was Alyssa.
- But why do you have a lot
of fake accounts on MocoSpace?
- That's my question.
- I only thought I had the one.
- But your phone number comes
up
linked to all of the
other...
- 12 accounts.
- 12 accounts.
- I have no clue what any
of those other ones are.
Honestly, I don't.
- They're so similar to yours.
That's what's weird.
- Now is the time to come out
with everything and not lie.
We found those other profiles.
It was very devastating
to Alyssa.
I think she just wants to know
are you only talking to her?
- Yes.
- You're not talking
to anyone else?
- No. I honestly have no clue
about those other profiles.
I really don't.
- Okay.
- I--I don't know 100%
if I can believe everything
you're telling me.
You're not showing any emotion
towards what you're saying.
- Alyssa, I seriously am sorry
I made you feel any type of way
about me not being real.
Honestly, you are the best
thing that ever happened to me.
I love you.
- ♪ Could we be
something more ♪
♪ All that I'm hoping for ♪
- I don't know
if I can believe you.
♪ ♪
♪ I know you want me ♪
- I don't know if it's
the same anymore.
- ♪ But I've come close enough
for now ♪
- I'm sorry.
I need to walk away.
- ♪ Oh God you haunt me ♪
♪ I'm scared you'll leave me ♪
♪ In the ground ♪
♪ ♪
- [sobbing]
- It feels like you're lying.
We can't really figure a way
that there would be
12 nearly identical profiles
that are all linked
to the same phone number
if they're not yours.
- I don't know anything
about those other profiles.
I really don't.
- I feel like
I can't believe him.
- I want to,
but I don't know what's up
with those other profiles.
- It doesn't add up.
It doesn't make sense.
- I still love her.
I still care about her.
I'm still willing
to do anything for her.
Like I said, she's the best
thing that ever happened to me,
and nothing's
gonna change that.
- You're saying
all the right things,
but obviously you understand
that, like,
she's got to rethink
her relationship with you...
- Yeah.
- Now that she's
actually meeting you.
- Think of the things
you want to know,
and let's go back there
and ask him.
- I think I'm ready.
- You know, I think she's
probably feeling like,
you know,
"He said all these things,
and it was all bull[bleep]."
You know what I mean?
- Yeah.
- That's hard for her.
- So I think my biggest
question is why me?
- Because honestly,
when I was talking to you,
you helped me through
a lot of things. You did.
I can't tell you how much
I appreciate that.
You always made me laugh.
You always made me smile.
You have
the greatest personality
I've ever seen.
You're just really
special to me.
I would do anything for you,
and I swear on my mom's life
I really have no clue
about those other profiles.
I really don't.
- It's, like, really hard
for me to believe that.
Literally all 12
are linked to your number.
- I would not lie to you
except about the picture,
'cause I did lie to you
about that, I'll be honest,
but I wouldn't lie about this.
- If you really like Alyssa
and want a chance with her,
now is the time
to just come clean.
- I'm telling
the God-honest truth.
Those are not my profiles.
I have no idea
who created them,
and I'm being
dead serious on that.
- I'm sorry for making you
feel uncomfortable,
but you put me in a position
where I got hurt,
and I've been hurt
my entire life.
- We can make it work.
We can figure out some way
to make this work.
- Those added profiles
don't add up.
It doesn't make sense to me.
You denied my trust for you.
I don't think I have
anything more to say.
I feel bad for him.
I understand why he did it,
but it's still no excuse.
I felt like he was just saying
what I wanted to hear.
- Well, that's what he's been
doing for the last six months.
- True.
- You did really good.
Let's say he does
come clean tomorrow.
What then?
- Would you date him?
Yeah.
- I think so.
- Then look, the door
is still open.
- Do we want to push him
on the profiles?
- How do you feel, Alyssa,
about it?
Only if you wanted to get
into a relationship with him
now would I demand
a clear answer on that.
- I feel like that's the big
reason why I don't.
- 'Cause he's not coming
clean about that?
- Right. I feel like
he's not coming clean.
- Here it is.
Hey.
- Come on in.
You guys can just take a seat.
- So have you thought about
what happened yesterday?
- Yeah.
- I still think
it's a little weird
that there would be
12 nearly-identical profiles
that are all linked
to the same phone number
if they're not yours.
Are they yours?
- No.
- Tyler, I think
you're a good guy.
I think you've got a big heart.
I think you feel genuinely
about Alyssa.
I think you do care about her,
but I'm pretty sure
those profiles are yours
whether you want
to admit to it or not,
but if you don't
feel comfortable
telling Nev and I the truth,
we can leave the room,
and you can talk to Alyssa.
- Well, I think it'd be best
if I don't sugarcoat things.
I have a gut feeling
that you're not being
100% honest with me.
- I get that you are skeptical
right now,
and I completely
understand that.
You have every right to be.
My honest intention
was not to hurt you.
I've always been
very self-conscious.
In high school I received
letters that said things like,
"Everyone would be better off
if you were dead,"
that I was ugly, that I was--no
one would ever care about me,
and eventually I started
believing it myself.
I felt like every girl
I pretty much talk to
is gonna end up
rejecting me at some point,
so when I put that picture up,
it was a defense mechanism,
and when I met you,
you made me happy.
- I feel like these stories
that you're saying are excuses.
We all go through [bleep].
That's life,
but you don't
see me going to someone else
and doing what you did to me.
- I know that things aren't
great between us right now.
- They're not, not even close.
- I'm still here for you.
I still love you.
I still care about you.
With time we can get things
back to the way they were.
- I don't know if I have
that time of day,
and I don't mean
to make you upset.
I'm just trying to be real.
Okay.
- You can walk me out.
- You guys done for--for now?
- Yeah.
- Good luck.
- Thank you.
- Good luck.
- Thanks.
- Be good.
- All right.
- I know it didn't end with
everything feeling good,
but you handled the situation
really, really well.
- It's a shame because
if he had been honest,
maybe it could have worked out.
- It's just like he has these--
all these good qualities,
but, like, he has
a lot of growing up to do.
- And so do you,
in a different way,
but you are further
along than he is.
- Yeah. I feel like
I've grown up a lot.
- Alyssa.
- Hey.
- How is everything?
- I'm just focusing on school
and focusing on work.
- What about Tyler?
Have you talked to him?
- He's reached out to me.
He was like,
"Oh, hey, I can't stand
not talking to you every day."
It just kind of made me feel
like he wasn't respecting
my decision.
- Even though you told him
you needed some space.
- Yeah, so we haven't
talked since.
- Well, look, you're--seems
like you're doing
all the right things,
taking all the right steps.
That's all you can do.
- Yeah.
- All right.
- All right, Alyssa, bye.
- Bye.
- Talk soon.
- Tyler.
- Hey.
- How has everything been
since we saw you?
- It's been rough, but I'm
getting through it, so...
- You miss her?
- Oh, yeah.
There is something
I wanted to tell you guys.
I've been thinking
about the profiles.
- Wait, wait, time-out.
I think Alyssa should
probably hear this.
Would you be open
to conference calling her?
- Yeah.
- All right, get ready.
Here she comes.
Hey, guys. Tyler was going
to tell us some things,
and I think he should
tell them to you.
- Mm-kay.
- What I wanted to tell you is
that when you were here,
I said those profiles
weren't mine, they were.
I really
never used those profiles.
I only went on there to play
games and things like that.
I shouldn't have lied,
and I'm sorry I did.
I was just really nervous.
I was really afraid, and I just
really wanted you to like me.
- I do appreciate the fact that
you're finally being honest
with me, like,
but I need my space.
I'm just trying
to move forward.
- It's movement
in the right direction.
Tyler understands that
he shouldn't have lied to you,
but people make mistakes.
Alyssa, you've now heard him
tell you the truth
about something that you knew
he was lying about,
so hopefully there's
some room now;
there's a little
opening for closure.
- Right.
- All right, guys, take care.
- Bye.
- Bye.
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