Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 7, Episode 3 - Kim & Matt - full transcript

- Matt just comes up
into my inbox,

and we just kind of connected.

- Look. He's on PlentyOfFish.
- Ooh!

- Uh-oh.
We just can't see his face.

- Kim actually called me
last night.

I kind of panicked.

There were some things
that she didn't tell you guys.

- What is going on here?

- You should've never called me
a fat-ass Kelly Price.

- For the past six years,

Max and I have been traveling
the world...



- Whoo!

- Helping people
find out the truth...

- What the [bleep]?

- About their online
relationships.

- I feel so stupid right now.

- Now, in our seventh season,

we'll cross
the hundred-episode mark.

- I can't wait to catch
a catfish creep.

Let's do it.

- Of course, since we started,
a lot's changed in my life.

I got married
to the most incredible

woman in the world,

and we have
the cutest baby ever.

- [giggles]



- Even though
my family's in LA,

I can't give up
traveling the country

to help people
meet their online loves.

- Hey!
[giggles]

- But I'm doing my best
to be home when I can.

I gotta go to work!

And I'm taking advantage
of Laura's perspective

on some of our cases.

- I just cracked the case.

- This is a big deal.

Because this season,

Max and I can use
all the help we can get.

- That's right.
We got a walker.

- Oh, my God.

My heart's racing.

- In an age
where everyone knows

everything about everybody,

people are getting
better and better

at hiding the truth.

both: What?
- There's his mugshot.

That's him?

♪ ♪

- Which is why,
this time around,

every episode
has double the secrets...

These are all connected
to that phone number.

- What?
- Double the surprises...

What the hell is this?

And double the reveals...

- There were some things
that she didn't tell you guys.

- That are going to seriously
blow your mind.

What?

Oh, boy. You [bleep] up.

This is "Catfish: The TV Show."

People keep saying,
"Don't you think, like,

catfishing is gonna go away?"
And, like...

- We thought so.
- Right.

I know.
It's only getting worse.

- Right.

- More people
are getting catfished now,

because more people
are meeting online.

- This is how most people
meet people these days.

- Yes.

- It would be really amazing
to, like, force guys and girls

as, like, a rite of passage
to go and hit on someone.

[laughter]

- All right, we got
an email here from Joseph.

"This Guy Has Been
Playing Games For Too Long."

"Dear Nev and Max,
My name is Joseph,

"I'm from Sacramento,
California,

and I think my ex-girlfriend
Kim is being catfished."

Whoa. Wow.

- ♪ Love is a flame ♪

♪ You know when it flickers ♪

- "I recently found out
that Kim has been

"online dating some guy, Matt,

"for the last five years.

That means they were talking
while she was with me."

- ♪ Time, the killer ♪

- "But I'm not jealous.
I'm concerned."

- How civil.
- Yeah.

- What a great world.
- I like this.

"Kim has had it kind of rough.

"This dude is the last thing
she needs in her life.

"She's never met this guy
in person

"and doesn't even know
for sure what he looks like.

"Apparently,
he lives in Florida,

"but the craziest part
is that Matt

"lived near us in Sacramento
not that long ago,

"and they still never met.

WTF?"

- ♪ Love is a flame ♪

♪ You know when it flickers ♪

- "Kim is very special.

"That's why we've stayed
friends.

"But I've been wondering
why Kim hasn't had

"a solid relationship
since we broke up.

"Now I know it's because
she's in love with Matt.

"She's super shy,
and she didn't have the guts

"to write you guys herself,

"so I told her I'd ask you
for your help on her behalf.

Can you help?
Joseph."

- ♪ If you're holding a gun ♪

♪ Will you pull the trigger? ♪

- So the good news
is they're not that far away.

I mean, we're in California.

- All right. Hit him up.

[line ringing]

Hey!
- Joe!

- How you guys doing?
- We're good. We're good.

So, Joe, we just read
your email.

This is an interesting
story for us.

- Let's talk about how
you're just

trying to get Kim back.

- Come on.

- You want to prove to Kim
that the guy

she was kind of talking to that

overlapped with you a little
bit is not even real...

- And in her grief...
- Right.

- You will be there,
her shoulder...

- "Oh, you were such
a good friend, Joe!"

- Honestly, it's just--

I just want to see
the best for her.

We're real good friends
at this point.

She's a very nice girl.

She's funny, she's smart,

but she's had, like,
a real troubled past.

Her mom passed away,
so she had to deal with that.

She'd even get in trouble
with the police.

She started to get
into drinking and drugs,

and I'm glad that she's had

this guy, like,
talking to her.

Maybe that'd help her
through this kind of thing.

But at the same time,
it's like,

she's never even seen him.

- Is she hoping
for more than a friend

with this guy, or is...
- Yeah.

This guy has got her
in some sort of way

to where he's stopping her

from even getting
into a relationship.

I honestly want
to see her happy.

If it doesn't turn out
to be real,

I hope she gets closure
in that.

- And so you've talked to Kim
about coming on the show?

- Yeah, and she kind of
seemed nervous about it.

If you guys want,
I mean, like,

I can go ahead
and try calling her.

- Sure. Yeah.

[line ringing]

- Hey, Kim. How you doing?

- You remember when I was
talking to you

about writing in to "Catfish"?

Guess who I got here on Skype.

- Hey, Kim,
it's Nev and Max.

- We heard you're having
some trouble

meeting up with this guy, Matt.

- That could be a possibility.

We figured we'd like
to hear it from you,

so best thing would be if
we could just meet up with you.

- It's all happening.

We're gonna come to Sacramento

and meet you in person.

- Believe it.

- Okay.
Have a good shower.

- All right, Joe.
We're gonna head to Sacramento.

You know, connect us with Kim,
and we'll figure this out.

- Yeah, of course. All right.
- So long.

- Farewell.
- Auf wiedersehen.

- [laughs]
- Like that guy.

- We're in California,

so we just have to drive.

- ♪ You got a free,
free spirit ♪

♪ Just say the word
and I'll set you free ♪

- All right.

Think this is it,
this little house right here.

- Hi.
- Finally!

Someone who comes out of their
house to greet us.

- All right.
Just fair warning, guys.

I am very nervous and very shy,

so please be a little patient.

I'm Kim.
It's really nice to meet you.

- Hi, Kim.
- Nice to meet you.

- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.

- Do you guys want
to come inside?

- All right.

Let's get down to business.

So how old were you
when you met Matt?

- Um, I was, like, 15.

Matt just comes up
into my inbox,

and he just says
I was beautiful.

I ended up just giving him
my phone number,

and we started talking
through text messages.

- Have you ever talked
on the phone?

- Yeah, we talk on the phone

at least twice a week.

Other than that,
it's just text.

When we started talking,
he was having his own problems,

like his parents pretty much
did the same mine did.

They were never there.

After my mom died,
my dad completely disappeared,

and I became the troubled kid

who started taking alcohol

and drugs to school.

I started getting into
a lot of fights.

- Damn.

- I did go to juvenile hall

when I was younger.

- Whoa.
What was that for?

- Um, I kicked a cop
in the nuts.

- Wow.

Does Matt, like,

know everything
that's happened with you?

He gives good advice?

Like, what's--why is he
so [bleep] special?

- Honestly, this is the person
that knows my life

for the past five years.

He knows everything
about my life,

and we just kind of connected.

- What was his story
when you met him?

He was from here
originally, right?

- Uh, no.

He actually was originally
from Florida.

Two years ago, he said that
he had moved to Sacramento,

and we actually tried
to meet up twice,

and he bailed both times...

Unfortunately.
- Yeah.

- He's now back in Florida.

- That's what he says.

- But the good news is
you don't know

what he looks like.- Right.

- So you have
no expectation, right?

- That's true.

- He hasn't described
his rippling abs

and his, like,
perfect long hair.

- Oh, if he's got abs,
there's the door.

I hate that.
- Yeah!

- Oh, she hates abs.

- Yeah!
[bleep] abs!

- Got to have a little bit
of fat on you.

- Am I too skinny?
- Yeah.

You're a little too skinny.
You got to be more like Max.

Max has got a little fat.

[laughter]

- All right.
Let's see his page.

Okay. Here we go.
So, "Reaper."

He's got a dog with a...

- With a gun.
- Rifle.

Can we see some of the messages
you guys send to each other?

- Yeah, let's see.

- Whoa.
- Whoa.

- Can't read that.

[laughs]

Oh, God.

Uh, you guys
are a little frisky.

- Yeah.
- All right.

So you've been talking
for five years.

Do you want to date this guy?

- We decided I was gonna take
the semester off of college

so that I could look
at colleges in Florida.

- So you're trying to make
a big decision right now

about where to go to school.
- Mm-hmm.

- And you would consider
moving to Florida.

- Yes.
- Wow.

So that's a big deal.

- I need to either
figure out who he is

or just get myself
back on the market.

- Whatever you know,
send it to us.

- All right, we're gonna
figure this out,

and we're gonna help you
"welcome Matt" into your life.

[laughter]

- All right. Thank you.

- Nice to meet you.
- You too.

- Well, she's a lovely girl.

She has had it rough,
objectively.

- Yeah.

- Look, this guy
clearly cares about her.

He wouldn't hang on
for five years if he didn't.

- But she's not seen
a single photo of him.

- All I know is that this guy's
hiding something.

- Look at this.
- Look at this.

- Whoa!
- This place is cool.

Hey. How are you?

- Good.
- All right.

So what do we got?

Kim and Matt, 20 and 21.

California, Florida,

five years,
texting and talking.

Been there for each other,
and now she's like,

"I'm gonna go to school, move,
I'm gonna change my life.

"Like, I need to figure out

if this guy's gonna be
a part of it."

All right, here we go.

We got the phone number.

Let's go to phone search,
paste, search.

♪ ♪

- Oh! Matt [bleep].
There he is.

Registered to Matt [bleep].

Same phone number
for the last five years.

He is in Florida.

- All right.
Here's his Facebook page.

Look--posting
from Kissimmee, Florida.

There's some people posting.
Hannah, Roger, Crystal.

Crystal again.
- Uh-huh.

- This girl seems
to be posting a lot.

Here again.
- She seems to know him.

- Yeah, obviously,
they're friends.

- Let's reach out to her.

- We should reach out
to Crystal.

All right, "Hey Crystal.
This is Nev. Give us a call."

- Boom.

Let's look at his URL name.

- All right. You mean...

both: Reaper [bleep].

- You want to search that?
- Yeah.

♪ ♪

- Oh.
- Oh!

- Reaper [bleep].
It's the same profile pic.

- Yeah.
- Same username.

- Oh.
- Oh, this is him.

Just can't see his face.
- Is that him?

I mean, that could be him.

- It's him tweeting it...
from 2012,

but yeah,
I think that is him.

- Yeah. Whoa. Wait.
Everything is good so far.

Why hasn't he gone to meet her?

- What else comes up?
- Something's up.

Something's up.
- Let's go back to the search.

- Look!
- Wait a second.

- He's on PlentyOfFish.

- Oh.
- Uh-oh. Uh-oh.

There's gonna be a picture.

- All right. We got pictures.
- Look. There's him.

- Oh, that's that same picture.
- That's the same picture.

But who's that?
- Ooh!

Is that him?
- He's, like, totally fine.

- This is great.
- He's normal.

- But he might
be dating online.

- He's definitely in Kissimmee,

or that's where the phone
is registered to.

His last name's
definitely [bleep].

- Everything so far

that we've found matches
exactly what he said.

- What do you think
this guy's deal is, then?

- I think maybe he is--

- Oh, you're getting
a phone call.

- Hello?

- This is Nev.
I'm with Max from "Catfish."

Max is the heavier one.

- [laughs]
- So here's what's up.

So we are hanging out
with a young woman

who has been friends with your
friend Matt for a long time.

- Has Matt ever talked

about his friend Kim
in California?

- But you know--you've
met him in person.

- And as far as you know,

is Matt in a relationship
right now?

- And has he always
lived in Florida?

- What do you think the best
way to reach out to Nick is?

- All right, great.
- There we go.

- Well, thanks so much.

- Hey.

- Like a crystal ball,
basically.

We asked her the question,
and just all the information.

- Whoa! Whoa!

She texted us a photo
of them together.

That's Crystal and Matt.

- And Matt.
- He's a babe.

- Yeah. He's got the emo hair.
- All right.

Let's call this brother guy
and see what he's got to say.

[line ringing]

- Hey, Nick. So I got
your number from Crystal.

My name is Nev,
and we are trying

to help a girl in California

who has been talking
to your brother Matt,

and we were just calling around
to make sure that Matt is,

you know,
who we all think he is.

Has he ever mentioned
a girl named Kim?

- And now, as far as you know,
is he in a relationship?

- And he's in Florida
with you now, right?

Do you guys live together,
or what?

- Got it.
- And did you guys,

at some point,
move to, like, Sacramento?

- No.

- Yeah, it is a little weird.

Well, thanks--
thanks for talking to us.

- See you later.
- Thanks, Nick. Bye.

He could be lying for him.

- There's still a lot to this
story that we just don't have.

It definitely feels weird,
'cause, like,

sounds like there's no reason
these two couldn't have

FaceTimed, video chatted,
met in person,

and yet it hasn't happened.

- And what's the reason
they haven't met?

- All right, we're back.

- All right.

So yesterday,
we did some research.

- We don't know what
to make of this.

- We're a little befuddled.

Okay, so here's
where we started.

So the first thing we found
when we searched his number...

Bingo.
- Look what we got.

Number for five years.

Comes back to a Matt [bleep].

- This never happens.

It's in Florida, which
is where he says he lives,

so this was kind of
a good surprise,

and he also has a Twitter.

Then there's some pictures
back from 2012

that look like they're of him.

This would have been the Matt

that you sort of
started talking to.

- Then we looked up his URL.

- We actually got
a bunch of hits.

The first one was this:
a PlentyOfFish account

that's up; I don't know how
or when it was last active.

For a guy who lives in
Kissimmee, 21 years old, 6'2".

There's also this photo.
It could be him.

- I'm not sure if I should
even make a comment.

[laughs]

♪ ♪

I'm not sure what to say.

- What's--are you upset?

I can't tell...

- Do you mind
if I take a second?

- Sure.

Yeah.

Take as much time as you need.

[tense music]

♪ ♪

You all right?

- Mm-hmm.

♪ ♪

- What was, uh...

- Oh, I just got really warm
and just overwhelmed.

- But, like, good,
excited warm overwhelmed?

- Yeah.
[sighs]

- Well, that's good.

- Like, this turned out to go
better than I thought,

so I'm completely speechless.

[soft music]

I hope that it's him.

♪ ♪

- Take--you can take
as much time as you need.

No, you--I mean...

- That's okay.

- But yeah, I mean,
it is exciting.

It's cool.
I mean, the guy seems legit.

♪ ♪

- Good?
- Mm-hmm.

- Regroup?
- Yeah.

She just got, like,
a little overwhelmed,

because I think she figured
that this was gonna end up

being, like, a huge,
embarrassing disaster.

Anyway, looks like this guy is
in Florida, he's the right age,

and just to be sure, we went
through his Facebook posts,

and we saw that there was
one girl who seemed to be,

like, a good friend of his,

so we reached out
to this girl, Crystal.

Crystal does know him.

She confirmed everything that
we assumed we knew about him.

- She also said
that she thought

he had a girlfriend right now.

- As far as you know,
is he currently dating someone?

- She wasn't sure,
but she did say

she thought he had
a girlfriend right now,

but we talked to Nick,
his brother.

Nick said that Matt is not
in a relationship right now.

- I mean, at this point,
we don't know what to believe.

[somber music]

♪ ♪

- [sobbing quietly]

- ♪ Who am I ♪

♪ Who am I to me ♪

♪ If all I see ♪

♪ All I see is you ♪

♪ What am I ♪

♪ What am I to do ♪

♪ Do I... ♪

- Wait. What's wrong?

- ♪ If you love me too ♪

♪ ♪

♪ If you love me too ♪

- You okay?

♪ ♪

- If he's real,
why is he hiding?

- ♪ Or is it you ♪

- [crying]

- Here's what we know.

Matt is a good-looking
young guy

from Florida
who did live in California.

The only concern
we have now is,

why haven't you video chatted?

Why hasn't he sent you
Snapchats of his face?

If he is real,
what's he not telling you?

What are we missing?

- [sighs]

I kind of want to
get off the floor.

- Sure.

- So here we are.

We've got some questions
that we're trying to answer.

If you definitely want
to meet him,

then we have to decide
that right now

and, you know,
figure out what that means

and how we want
to make that happen.

- I definitely want
to meet him,

but I am terrified of heights,
and I'm terrified of planes,

so unless there's a different
way to get there, I can't.

- We can work with that.

- Why don't we see
if he'll come here?

I'm gonna call this guy.

Okay. Ooh.

I got to show her this photo.
I forgot. I forgot.

After we hung up with Crystal,

she texted us a picture
of them together,

like a recent photo.

So that--there he is.

- What do you think of him?

- Well, he's not ugly.

- I think he's stunning,
to be honest.

Just very handsome.

- [laughing]
Oh, my God.

- All right.
I'm gonna go call him.

- How do you feel?

- Um, nervous.

[line ringing]

- Yo. Is this Matt?

- Hey. How you doing?

My name is Nev
from that show "Catfish."

I actually spoke
to your brother earlier.

We're up here in Sacramento
with Kim,

and we were wondering

if you wanted
to meet up with her.

- She didn't actually
write in to us.

Her friend Joe
wrote in and was concerned

that maybe you weren't
who you said you were.

I think, after five years,
it'd be great

for both of you just to meet up

and see what happens
and kind of move forward.

- I just don't get it.
Why isn't he sending pictures?

Why is he chickening out from
meeting you or lying about it?

Something is up.

- We could come to you, but
I don't know if you know this,

but Kim is sort of
very afraid of flying.

If it was possible,
would you come to her?

- Okay. Great.

This is good.
We're making progress.

- I'll see you soon.

- All right. Later.

- All right,
so I talked to him.

He does want to meet you.

I think we're gonna try
and get him on a plane tonight

so that you can meet up with
him first thing in the morning.

- Wow.
Are you gonna be okay tonight?

- Yeah.

- You're gonna meet him
tomorrow.

- Hopefully we'll get you
some answers.

- Okay.
- All right.

He's flying
all the way out here,

so just make sure
you're ready to talk to him.

- Thank you.

♪ ♪

- She is a nervous Nellie.

- I mean, now
I'm beginning to wonder

if it was him avoiding
meeting her...

- Right.

- Or if she's
just avoiding him,

and he probably picked up
on that.

Like...
- Yeah.

- She could have been the one
that bailed every time.

[ringtone chiming]

- Hi.
- What's up?

- Dinner time.
- Hey.

- Mom's over.
- Hey, guys.

- Hi, Daddy.
- Hi, Cle-Cle.

Look how good she is
with the spoon.

- I know.
- So cute.

- She's having quinoa
and vegetables and beans.

- Wow. I love it.

We got up here,
we met this girl Kim.

She's been talking
to this guy, Matt.

We did the investigation,

and from everything
we've found,

it looks like he's him,

that he's actually the guy
in the pictures.

- Great.

- But something's not
adding up.

Maybe they're both
sort of awkward,

and that's why they haven't
figured it out and met up yet,

but it feels like we're still
not getting the full story.

- I hope it's a happy ending.

I always hope
for happy endings.

- It would be nice to get one.

- Yeah.
- [crying]

- Oh, no!

I think Cleo's done
with her dinner.

- All right. Go finish dinner.

I love you, and I'll talk
to you tomorrow.

- Okay. Love you, babe.
- Bye, guys.

- Bye!
- Bye!

[line ringing]

- Hello?
- Kim!

Matt is landing soon,

so we're gonna head over
to you,

and we'll be ready to go.

- All right, guys.

I'll see you guys
when you get here.

- Great.
- All right. Bye, guys.

- Bye.

[dramatic music]

- Who is that?

- Hey.

- Joe.
- Joe.

- How are you guys doing?

- We were hoping we'd get
a chance to meet you.

- Kim actually
called me last night,

and she was, like,
kind of panicked,

and she just, like, let me know
that there were some things

that she didn't tell you guys.

- Do you know what it is?

- Yeah, but it's like--it
needs to come from her,

'cause it's not really
my place to say.

- Hey.
- Hey.

- Hey.

♪ ♪

- Who's--
- Who's this?

♪ ♪

♪ ♪

- What?
- Yeah.

- Wait. You guys have a kid?
- Tell.

- Yeah.

I wasn't sure if Kim wanted to
bring her into the situation.

She didn't want to make
Norma known at any point.

- Norma. Okay.
- Yes, this is Norma.

- Pieces of the puzzle
are coming together.

- What's up? Hi.

- After we moved in,
she got pregnant,

and then we just
didn't work out.

She hasn't actually--

- He doesn't know that.
- Right. Yeah.

- Matt doesn't know
you have a daughter.

Got it. Okay.
- He doesn't know that.

- She did not let Matt know,

'cause he told her
some things that, like,

made her not want
to bring her up.

- What?
Like he doesn't like kids,

or he doesn't want
to have kids, or...

- Yes. Exactly that.

- Right.
- Doesn't like kids,

doesn't want to have kids.

- Mm-hmm.

- What do you, then, think
of this guy who, you know,

could be a potential
stepfather to your kid who...

- Well...
- Doesn't like kids and...

- Lives in Florida.

- And doesn't send
her pictures, and...

- You don't want her
moving to Florida.

- Oh, no. No, no, no, no.

- Right.
- But you know that

that's what they've been
talking about, right?

Just add that to the list.

This guy won't
send you a picture,

doesn't like kids,
doesn't want to have kids...

This is turning into more
and more of a bad idea, Kim.

♪ ♪

- Daddy's got to get you, baby.
- [crying]

- Aw.
I'm just here to pick her up.

Y'all are doing your thing.

- I love you.
- Give kisses.

- Mwah.

- Give knuckles to--
give them knuckles.

- Okay. Boo, boo, boo,
boo, boo, boo.

- It was great
to meet you guys.

- Yeah, you too, man.
- Later, Joe.

- Oh, wow. Okay.

Well, you're in trouble, Kim.

So Matt doesn't obviously
know you had a kid.

- When I was pregnant
and talking to him,

I didn't get big
until the very end,

and at one point,

I was actually supposed
to come out to see him,

but I went into labor,
so I bailed.

- Of course you bailed.

- 'Cause he was here
when you were pregnant.

- Yeah.

- You know he doesn't
care for kids.

Do you think he could be
a good father to Norma?

- I hope so.
I mean, I've never met him,

so I don't know exactly
how he is in person.

- You really love this guy?

You really think Matt
is, like, a good fit for you?

- I believe so.
- All right.

So it's all out there.

Matt's plane
should have landed.

"Let's meet at Discovery Park."

We've got a date.

- I'm ready.
- Are you?

- Mm. I think so.
- Okay.

Mr. Matt.

- Guys, how am I supposed
to tell him about my child?

- You just got to do it.

- Let's let him tell you first.

- He's got a few things
to answer.

We want to know why he never
sent a picture of himself...

- Mm-hmm.

- Why he didn't make more
of an effort to see you

when he was
in Sacramento, right?

- Mm-hmm.

- We want to know how he
really feels about you.

- I mean, if he's the person
he says he is,

why not just tell me
who you are?

- Maybe he's not the guy
in the pictures.

- The whole thing to me
just doesn't make any sense.

All right. Discovery Park.
Here it is, right here.

It's the next exit.

♪ ♪

All right, fingers crossed.

Whoa.

- Uh-oh. Yeah.
I see someone.

- That could be him.

- I'm ready.
- It's on.

Face your fears.
Let's do this.

♪ ♪

Is this him?
- It's got to be.

Who else would be here
hiding in the shade of a tree?

- Is this him?

- Who else would be here

hiding in the shade of a tree?

♪ ♪

You're Matt?

- Yep.

- Max.
- What's up?

Nev.
Thanks for coming out.

♪ ♪

- So, um...

[laughing nervously]
I do have a few questions.

♪ ♪

Just out of curiosity,
you got a girlfriend?

- No.

- Why no pictures of you?

Why wouldn't you send me any?

- I don't like being
in front of the camera.

♪ ♪

- Okay, but for five years,

you've been
talking to this girl.

How do you not send her
a little video

just so she knows
it's you or something?

- You are who you said
you were.

You weren't lying
about any of that.

So then what's the holdup?

- I'm a secretive person,
for the most part.

♪ ♪

- I think the bigger question
is do you care about her?

- I do.

- In what way?

- Like, it would suck
if something happened to her.

Like, that's how I would feel.

- Okay. That's one way
to answer the question.

- I mean, I care about you.

I mean, I was there
when your mom died.

You were there
when my grandfather died.

I mean, that's kind of hard
to, like, brush off.

- Do you guys mind
if I take a second?

- No. Come back here.
- Yeah, stay here.

- I can't.
- Yeah, you can do it.

- The hysterics are nice.
- Come on.

Kim.
- This is...

- Kim.

- Interesting.

♪ ♪

- It's him.
- I know. It's--

- He's good-looking.
- I know.

- He's skinny, though.
- I know.

I can fatten him up.

[laughs]

- That was quick.

[ominous music]

♪ ♪

Is it weird seeing her?

- It's awkward
under these circumstances.

- Sure.
- [laughs nervously]

- But, like, have you been--

- Just let them...
- Okay.

- Be weird with each other.
Here it is. We made it happen.

Now you guys--
let's see what happens.

- Anything else you got to ask?

- So, do you still not
like children?

♪ ♪

- I mean, it's iffy. Why?

- Um...well,

I haven't really been
exactly honest.

Um, I actually have an almost
two-year-old daughter.

- Huh?
- I have a child.

- And you decided now
to tell me?

- Yes.

I mean, like,
I get that I was lying,

but can you really blame me?

Like, you told me
to begin with, like,

you don't like children.

[whispers]
Oh, my goodness.

Which leads me
to my next question.

Would you like
to be her godfather?

- Hold up.

I've never even met her.

I'm just now
finding out about her.

A child.

Okay, now my anxiety's
through the roof.

- She didn't meet you when
you came to visit because...

- I bailed because
I went into labor.

- Kim, why don't you tell Matt
how you feel about him?

- Do I have to do it
with all of you guys?

- There's a bench over there
if you want to sit.

- Yeah, you guys go sit.
Go talk.

♪ ♪

- Okay.

The past five years,

I can't say I didn't fall
in love with you,

because I did.

I guess I just have
huge feelings for you.

[whispers]
Oh, my goodness.

Can you, like, not
directly stare at me?

♪ ♪

- I'm at a complete
loss for words.

- Okay, so, like,

this is really,
like, pointless.

I'm walking back that way.

- Okay.

♪ ♪

- Here.
Come over here.

- I just want to see the water.

♪ ♪

- Can we just talk?
- Sure.

Yeah.
- Can we just--let's take--

- Give us a minute
and get out of here.

- Give us a minute.
- Great. Can I go for a run?

- Yeah. Do it.
- Thanks.

♪ ♪

- Don't fall in the river.

- [panting]

- Okay, so do you want

kind of a romantic thing
with Kim or not?

- That I can't really
decide right now,

because I'm still trying
to process

everything that's going on.

♪ ♪

I would have to sleep
on the whole thing

and maybe get
a clear head out of it.

♪ ♪

- That's fine.
We can meet up tomorrow.

But I think
by the time you leave,

she deserves some sort
of clear answer from you

on where you stand.

♪ ♪

Kim.

♪ ♪

I think maybe
that's enough for today.

All right, so we'll take Kim
back to the car.

- Nice meeting you.
- Same.

♪ ♪

- ♪ You led me on,
you let me down ♪

♪ ♪

♪ Cast your spell
and spread it round ♪

- From his, like, behavior,
do you feel that he's into it?

- Um, I got an uneasy feeling.

- Well, you're both awkward.

- ♪ We had a good thing ♪

- These things take a second,
you know what I mean?

- Yeah.

- ♪ Don't give it up ♪

♪ Don't give it up
so easy, easy ♪

- I guess that you could be
Cleo's godfather.

- Me?
- We don't have one yet.

- I would be honored.

- But that's not official.
- Is that-- [laughs]

- No, no, no, no.
- You--

- I have to--
- You just tossed that out?

I could be the godfather.
Thanks, man.

- I mean, I don't know who else
I'd ask to do that.

- I mean, that's incredible.

- Yesterday was a weird thing
for everybody,

but we got through it.

Today is a new day.

I think you should spend
some time with Kim...

- Yeah, of course.

- All right.

♪ ♪

- Hey, guys.

- What's up?

- So...
- What's up, Norma?

- Oh, this is Norma.
- Knuckles?

- Hey!
- She gives knuckles.

- Yeah.
- I got her something.

- You got to give her
some knuckles.

Look, she's--
- Aw.

- Nice.

- Whoa.
- Whoa!

- Say "thanks."
There you go, baby.

- Aw. She loves it.

- Knuckles.
- Yep.

- Do you guys want
to go inside?

- Sure. Yeah.
- Sure.

- Let's do it.

- Her dad will probably be
coming to get her soon.

- What do you think?
Pretty cute.

- Yeah.

- But you don't spend
a ton of time with kids.

- Mm-mm.

- You're very obviously

not ready to, like,
engage with a child.

- Right.
- That's cool.

Is that Joe?
- ♪ Go, go, go, Joseph ♪

- Yeah, I got to take her out.

- There he is.

Hey.

- Give Mama kisses.
- Kisses?

- See that hair?
Look at that hair.

Both of you guys have
quite the head of hair.

All right, later, Joe.

- Bye, Joe.
- See you, Norma.

♪ ♪

Want to get out of the house

so that it's not
so quiet and awkward?

- That would be nice.

- There's a place nearby
that has a nice, like,

sort of outdoor space
where you guys could chill,

have some ice cream,
and, like, hang on your own.

- Sounds fine.
- All right. Cool.

So do your thing, hang out,
take your time.

No kissing.
- Oh, my God.

- No, kissing's allowed.
Sorry.

- So, you calm now?

- Um...a little bit.

♪ ♪

- Where are we going from here?

♪ ♪

- Stop staring at me.

- I'm just asking,
where are we going from here?

♪ ♪

- Good question.
You speak first.

- To answer your question
from earlier,

the one that I keep
avoiding...

Right now,

a relationship for me
is not the best place.

[somber music]

♪ ♪

But I've got no problem
helping you out

if you need help with Norma.

I mean, I'm okay with
being Norma's godfather.

You know, I do care
about you as friends.

♪ ♪

I mean, as long
as I have you in my life,

that's all that matters.

♪ ♪

- ♪ You and me ♪

- So where are you guys
gonna leave it?

- As friends.

- I guess this
is good-bye for now.

- Yep.
- Good to meet you.

- Same.
- Thanks for coming up here.

- All right, um, I guess
I'll see you next time.

♪ ♪

- All right.

Well, that was weird...

[both laugh]

But also heartwarming.

♪ ♪

[upbeat music]

Hey.
- Kim!

- Hey.
- Hey. Give us a little update.

What's been going on with you?
Tell us everything.

- Just going to school,
working, and being a mommy.

- You weren't going to school
when we met you, were you?

- No, I started taking
online classes.

- That's great. What are you
studying for or toward?

- I'm going for a surgeon.

- Surgeon!
- Wow.

Did you do this to kind of help

mend your broken heart?

- [laughs]

No, I just--
I did it

because instead of just working
and being a mom,

I'm going to put
the school in there

and get it all done at once.

- [squeals]

- How is little Norma?
- She's good.

Okay, let's go this way.

It's not easy being a single
parent, but it's pretty fun.

- Are you keeping in touch
with Matt?

- Yeah, we talk every so often.

- You know, you had
feelings for him.

Do you still feel strongly
for him in that way?

- Oh, no. You guys
helped me quite a bit.

Him not really wanting that

actually helped me move on
with my love life, because...

We kind of got together.

- Well, that's exciting.

Do they know
you have a daughter?

- Yes. [laughs]
- You've moved on.

It's great.
- Okay.

I'm gonna add Matt
to the call.

We'll see what he's been up to.

[line ringing]

- Hey!
- Whoa, look.

Two eyes. He's got two eyes.
- Look at that. Two eyes.

- Wow. How do you feel about
being a godfather?

Have you felt like you've done

anything to sort of fulfill
those duties?

- I've been more
social with Norma.

- Say, "Hi, Matt."

- Hi, Norma.

- [babbling]

- [babbling]

- Have you guys seen
each other in a while?

- Well, I'm going to Florida.

- So, wait, so you're gonna
go visit him in Florida?

- Yeah, mid-January,
early February.

- What about Norma,
your god-daughter?

- Oh, I've already
got stuff for her

when she comes out here.
- Oh, that's great.

- What do you got?

- Toys and a few
stuffed animals.

- Well, we're happy that
you guys are still friends

and that you're gonna go visit.
We think it's just great.

It's been a pleasure
talking to you guys.

- Thank you guys so much

for bringing us together
to meet face to face.

- It was our pleasure,
and best of luck.

- Thank you.
You guys too.

- Have fun in Orlando.

- Bye.
- Bye.

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