Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 5, Episode 3 - Leuh & Justin - full transcript
Since Leuh saw surfer Justin it's been insta-love ever since. But after 2 failed attempts to meet up, she's desperate to figure out if Justin really is the man of her dreams or is she one in a long line of online lovers.
>> This is the first time
we've actively gone
after someone who told us no.
I'm not seeing anything.
Just hang tight.
Oh, wait--Nev coming out.
>> What is happening?
>> Who's this?
Oh, boy.
>> He's coming this way.
Oh, my God.
[upbeat electronic music]
*
>> Hey, I've been working out.
>> Have you?
[thud]
Uhh!
[both laugh]
Let it out, Max.
[grunts] Uhh!
[both laugh]
It's time to get
down to business.
Someone needs our help.
The cat signal's up.
>> Meow.
>> Here's an email from Leuh.
>> Leuh? "Le-uh."
>> "I need to know
what's going on with Justin.
My future may depend on it.
My name is Leuh.
I am 19, and I live
in Rochester, New York.
I think I have met
the perfect guy.
His name is Justin.
He lives in Huntington Beach,
California.
We met two years ago
on Instagram,
and we completely hit it off.
>> * Baby
* I'm in love with you *
>> "Besides being
incredibly attractive,
he's unlike any guy
I've ever met.
>> * It's crazy *
* I'm in love with you *
>> I'm even picking
my four-year college
so I can be near him.
I think it's safe to say
I've fallen for him
in these past few years."
>> * I'm in love with you *
>> Big life decisions
being made around Justin.
>> Yeah.
>> So, we have yet
to get to the problem.
>> "I have tried a few times
to get him to video chat,
but he has never owned
a computer with a webcam."
>> Sounds like BS.
>> "After a year of talking,
I had the chance
to fly to California
with my mom to look at colleges
so I could see him."
>> Smart.
>> "When the time came to meet
at a restaurant he suggested,
he stopped answering his phone."
>> Unacceptable.
>> "After that,
we didn't talk for a bit.
But I eventually forgave him
because he is too important
for me to stay mad at.
I am in love with him,
and I am ready to move
across the country
to be with him.
But before I can do this,
I need to know he's real.
Please help."
>> All right.
>> This guy is making
a huge impact on her future
and her life.
>> Let's get her on the phone.
>> Here we go.
[line ringing]
>> Hey, guys.
[overlapping greetings]
How are you?
>> Hey, Leuh.
We're good; how are you?
>> I'm good, thank you.
>> So, we just read your email.
Why don't you just tell us
quickly a little bit
about Justin.
>> He is such a cool guy.
I've never met anyone
like him before in my life.
Like, he's tall, dark,
and handsome.
He has tattoos.
We go to each other
for problems, and we help
each other through so much.
He's just a really important
person in my life.
Even when he stood me up twice.
>> In the email,
you only told one story
of when he stood you up.
What was the other time?
>> The second time was
I went out to Vegas
with my family.
I was a few hours away from him.
He didn't give me any heads-up
that he was gonna cancel on me,
but he just started giving me,
like, all these crazy excuses
like, "Oh, my car
won't make it that far."
Like, "It's not working
too well now."
>> I mean, you know that
something's up, right?
>> Yeah, but I can't move on.
Like, this guy's
so important to me.
Like, I just love him too much.
This is kind of, like,
my last option.
I really, really, really
want to meet him.
>> All right, well, I know
you've waited a few years.
But if you can wait,
let us get out to you,
and we'll track him down
and hopefully you'll get
to lay eyes on Justin.
>> The man of my dreams.
>> Sure.
>> Thank you so much.
>> both: All right, Leuh.
>> Bye.
Have a good day.
>> See ya.
>> Bye. Oh, man.
>> "Man of my dreams."
>> This girl's sweet.
>> Ugh, I know--it's just,
I want this to be real.
>> No, her heart's
about to break.
It's not looking good.
>> The reality is
something's up.
We should definitely head up
there and help her out.
>> All right.
>> Rochester...yeah.
>> *It's time *
* To call it off
* It's time to *
* Walk out the door
* It's time to *
* It's time to *
>> We made it to Rochester.
>> Look at this neighborhood.
It's so charming.
I love it here.
Oh. That her?
>> Oh, my God.
>> Hi.
>> Hey, Leuh.
Ooh.
>> VIP parking.
>> Hi! It's so nice to finally
meet you.
>> Oh, my God, you're right
here...I thought you were gonna
be waiting on the veranda.
>> We're here.
We're finally here.
>> Come on in.
>> Look at this.
Look how cute she is.
>> Oh, my God.
"Welcome, 'Catfish.'"
Well, let's sit down.
>> Okay.
>> And hang out a little bit.
I see you've got some art
on your body.
>> I do.
>> With more on the way.
>> Yep.
>> Cool.
>> I got to color it in still.
>> You doing full sleeves?
>> I'm gonna try to, yeah.
>> Wait, are you partly inspired
to get tattoos
because he has tattoos?
>> I mean, he has a ton,
so, yeah.
>> Oh.
>> I want to be like his type.
You know what I mean?
>> Ooh.
>> Yeah.
>> So, explain how you met him.
>> He just commented
on one of my pictures just,
like, out of the blue one day
telling me I looked good.
So I checked out his page.
I was like, "Wow,
you're really cute.
I got to DM you."
I was like, "Yeah.
Here's my number."
Like, "You should definitely
text me sometime."
>> And you have talked
on the phone, right?
>> Yeah.
>> Does he have other social
media accounts?
Did you friend him on Facebook
or do you follow him on Twitter
or, like, you guys Snapchat?
>> Well, Facebook is,
like, where I have, like,
my grandma and stuff.
So I keep that to my family.
I don't really, like, add people
from other social media.
So I never asked him, really.
Just kept it on Instagram.
>> And do you know anything
about, like, his friends?
>> Yeah.
His, like, best friend
is this kid, Todd.
>> Todd what?
>> I don't know his last name.
>> But you feel very confident
Justin's legit?
>> [sighs]
For the most part.
But my friends and my mom
are, like, super-skeptical,
and they're like, "Leuh, you're
just making a huge mistake.
You're gonna
get your heart broken."
But I don't like to see it
like that, because I want to
believe that the person I'm in
love with is who they say they
are--you know what I mean?
>> Can we see him?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay, so this is your
Instagram account?
>> Yeah.
>> So let's go to his page.
>> [gasps]
>> No posts.
>> He blocked me.
>> He did block you.
>> I just looked at his page
yesterday.
He just texted me
and sent me a heart.
Like, why?
>> That's really weird.
Did something happen?
>> No.
>> Did he know that we were
coming to make the show?
>> I didn't tell him.
I told him that I emailed
you guys, and that's the last
thing I said to him.
>> Well, that's weird.
>> Maybe he started following
Nev or myself on social media
and saw that we were
in Rochester.
>> Whew...
Well, look.
You need to give us whatever
information you do have.
Phone numbers, email,
friends' names.
We'll get to the bottom of this.
>> Okay.
Thank you so much.
>> We're on the case.
>> Drive safe.
>> Oh, man.
She's getting those tattoos
all over her arm--
>> Right.
>> In preparation to meet him.
>> Yeah.
>> She just doesn't quite fully
understand that he could
be a total fake.
>> This is gonna be bad.
[upbeat music]
>> * Oh, oh-oh-ohh
* Tell me what you want...
>> We found a cool coffee shop.
>> You ready to crack this
case wide open?
>> I'm ready, just--
>> * Tell me what you want
* From me
>> [sneezes]
Ahh. All right.
Investigation time.
Here we go.
>> All right.
Recap: Leuh met Justin 2 1/2
years ago.
Instagram direct message,
then text message.
Then she went to visit him,
but he blew her off.
And she has
exclusively considered schools
in Southern California
because that's where he lives.
Something's definitely up.
Here we go.
"Below is the information
I have on Justin.
His phone number.
His Instagram.
His last name.
He lives in Huntington Beach."
That's it.
"I don't have any other
social media for him.
I know he's mentioned Facebook
before, but I have never
seen it."
>> All right.
Let's search
Justin's phone number.
>> Okay. Here we go.
Searching, searching.
>> both: Ohh!
>> Rita.
That's his last name.
That's good news.
>> That's great news.
>> That means it's probably
registered to his mom.
Age mid-50s.
That never happens.
That never happens.
Huntington Beach.
That's great.
>> It's great for us, 'cause
the story is checking out.
>> Right.
Well, at least his name
we now know
is actually his last name.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay, here's his address
in California.
Well, that's helpful
information--are you writing
any of this down?
>> Yep.
>> Okay, we got to look this guy
up on Instagram.
Instagram/J [bleep].
He looks like he's in his 20s.
>> Yeah.
>> 1,600 followers.
>> That's real-ish.
>> Yeah. That's a normal amount.
400 posts.
God, I wish he wasn't private.
>> If we just search for Justin
[bleep] on Instagram,
would we find other pictures
that people tag him in?
>> We can try.
Okay, here's an Instagram.
Is he tagged in this?
>> Isn't that him
with the backwards hat?
>> This guy?
>> Yeah.
>> Is that him?
>> I think so.
J [bleep], yeah.
>> Yeah, he's tagged
in this picture.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, that's good.
>> Yeah. People are tagging him.
Look, he's in another picture
right there.
>> Yeah.
>> So, search for Justin [bleep]
on Facebook.
>> Justin [bleep].
Here's a Facebook page.
>> So, he does have
a Facebook page.
>> That was easy.
I can't believe she didn't know
he had this.
>> Well, she didn't search.
>> Okay.
Let's see about...single.
>> It says he's single.
That's good.
Okay, birthday April, '91.
Which would make him 24, yeah.
>> 24.
>> We've never had someone
check out so easily.
>> Yeah, I mean,
he's got a Facebook page
that we found, he's tagged
in other people's profiles.
His phone number checks out.
Everything points
to him being real.
>> But as we've learned,
when the person ends up
being who they said they were,
the reasons why they've kept
the other person away from them
are generally worse.
>> Worse.
All right.
So, 20 hours ago he updated
his profile picture.
>> He's got tattoos.
Who's that?
>> both: Who is that?
>> Jamie [bleep].
"Handsome," smiley face.
And he wrote back, "Thanks."
>> Oh, so he's flirting
with this girl.
>> Who's Jamie [bleep]?
Okay. She's cute.
She's got tattoos.
>> She's in Kentucky.
>> She's got a kid.
"I'm just ready
to move to California."
>> What?
>> Maybe he's got
lots of, like--
>> Maybe there are multiple--
>> Cute girls around
the country.
>> Leuhs.
He could be, like, a serial
Internet man-slut.
I mean, look at that picture.
Is that the friend?
Todd?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> That's Justin's friend.
>> I mean, normally
we're convinced that the person
is lying about who they are.
>> Correct.
>> In this case, since it looks
like it's actually him,
now we need to start
investigating
why he'd be avoiding her.
So let's send a message
to Todd, who's clearly, like,
a good friend of his.
"Hey, Todd.
We'd love to ask you
a couple questions."
Send.
Should we send Jamie
a message?
She's the last person
that he interacted with
on his Facebook.
>> Yeah, let's send her
a message.
>> Yeah, okay, great.
Well, let's wait and see
if anyone gets back to us.
Either way,
it's looking very much
like Justin is actually
exactly who he says he is.
But why doesn't he want to meet
this beautiful,
healthy young lady?
>> He might have another
beautiful, healthy young lady
in his life,
and there might not be space
for the two of them.
>> That's looking more
and more likely.
>> Good investigation.
[mellow music]
>> Really raining.
>> It's a beautiful day.
>> This feels very regal.
>> It is.
It does feel like tea time.
[chuckles]
>> I got a voicemail.
Check this out.
Let's see.
All right.
[line trills]
>> Hello.
Good morning, Todd.
Thanks for getting back to me.
Have you seen the show
"Catfish"?
Okay, cool.
We're making an episode
of the show right now,
and this girl Leuh
is talking to your buddy Justin.
Yeah.
You know, in looking into
Justin, we came across you
and your profile, and you guys
seem to be pretty close.
Has he ever mentioned
a girl named Leuh?
We're not trying to blow up
his spot or anything.
He's kind of avoided her
a few times, and we weren't sure
why that would be.
Yeah. All right.
Thank you for getting
back to us.
Later, man.
>> Is he just not serious
about her?
Everyone is very aware
of Justin on her side,
and no one knows who Leuh is
on Justin's side,
which is not good.
>> Right.
[chime]
Oh, I got a message from Jamie.
Jamie was the girl--
>> The girl.
>> Who just recently commented
on his profile.
>> Right, she's another girl
in another part of the country
that's flirting with Justin.
>> Jamie says, "Oh, my God,
is this for real?
Call me when you guys
have time."
Let's give her a call.
[line trills]
>> Hey, Jamie.
It's Nev and Max from "Catfish."
The reason we reached out
to you is because we saw
that you are friends
with a guy name Justin [bleep].
What's the nature
of your relationship?
So, basically, there's a girl
that we're helping who,
similar to you,
has been talking to him,
met him on Instagram...
but sort of very much
under the impression that
if they did meet,
they would very much be
in a relationship.
Yeah.
So--
Yeah.
I can't say how this is
gonna turn out, but I hope
you find a great guy.
Bye.
>> She was hurt.
>> Yeah.
She's a little heartbroken,
like, over this guy.
>> Yeah.
It doesn't look good for Leuh.
He's an Internet player.
>> Hey.
>> Hi.
My mom and my friend
are here right now.
>> Oh, nice.
>> Max and Nev, this is my mom,
and this is Amanda.
>> Hi.
>> Hi, nice to meet you.
>> Nev--hello.
>> Amanda.
>> I'm Kim, Leuh's mom.
>> Kim, nice to meet you.
This is Max.
>> Hi, nice to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> And how do you guys
know each other?
>> Oh, we have been friends
since we were, like,
five or six years old.
>> And there's nothing
they don't know
about Justin, right?
>> Yeah--I mean, they're the
two closest people to me,
so I feel like they've
been there the whole time
and they understand everything
that's, like, really happened
between us.
>> What's your take on this
whole situation?
>> Oh, I definitely don't
want to keep seeing her
upset over it.
Like, he won't meet up with her,
but he expects her to have
this loyalty to him.
So that's the thing
that I think is kind of weird.
It just makes me feel like
he's hiding something.
Like, that's what
I really think.
>> Yeah, I just want her to have
an answer so we can move on.
>> If it were to turn out
to actually be the person
that she's talking to, would you
still be for this relationship?
>> If I was able to talk to him
and ask him a million questions,
yes.
As long as I have answers
and they're good answers, and as
long as she stays in school
and pursues her degrees.
>> I mean, you've heard all this
before, I imagine, right?
>> Yeah.
>> All right, so we're gonna
sit down with Leuh
for a little bit.
>> Okay. Bye.
>> Bye.
>> Nice meeting you.
>> All right, why don't you
have a seat?
Let's just go over all of this.
>> Okay.
>> All right.
So, we took the phone number
that you have for Justin
and we ran it on the website.
Lo and behold,
it's registered to someone
named Rita [bleep].
>> The same last name.
>> Which is good,
because while it's possible
that you're talking to a woman
in her mid-50s--
>> Yeah.
>> More likely that
that's his mom.
>> Okay.
>> So then we thought, "Okay.
Let's see if we can find
this guy on Facebook."
And we found this Facebook page.
>> Okay.
>> You've never seen this?
>> No.
I've never asked him
for his Facebook or anything.
>> And you never tried
just looking him up?
>> No.
>> Okay.
Well, he posted
this new profile picture.
So, presumably, this is what
he's looking like at the moment.
That's all good.
>> Yeah.
>> So we figured, "Okay,
if this is a real Facebook page,
and he's got friends tagged,
let's go to those friends' pages
and see if they're real."
So here's Todd's Facebook page.
We sent him a message.
"I'd love to talk to you.
It's about one of your friends."
>> Mm-hm.
>> Then, early this morning,
we got a message back,
and Todd was really cool.
Sounded like a good guy.
Told us, "Yeah, that's Justin,
and yeah, that's his page."
Which means that...
>> You're talking
to the real guy.
>> Justin has to be real.
Okay.
I feel so much better
now that I know it's actually,
like, probably him.
>> But,
when I brought up you,
Todd had no idea
and had never heard about you.
>> That's shady.
I thought his friends
definitely knew about me.
I mean, we've been talking
for so long.
>> Yeah.
>> It's kind of like a tradeoff.
Like, it's good that it's him,
but then what is he hiding?
>> Right.
>> Yeah.
So we figured, "Okay, he just
posted his photo two days ago.
Who's commenting on it?
Who's liking it?"
So we clicked on it,
and the first comment
is from somebody named Jamie,
and she says, "Handsome,"
smiley face.
To which he replied, "Thanks."
>> Smiley face.
>> Right.
That feels a little bit
like flirting.
>> Yeah, it definitely feels
like flirting.
That bothers me.
>> So we messaged her, too.
>> Oh, God.
>> And much to our amazement,
she met Justin via Instagram.
Over the last few years,
they've had a very similar
correspondence
that you've had.
She has a really big
crush on him.
He's been very affectionate
towards her.
>> And did you tell her
about me, or...
>> Yeah.
>> We did.
>> And she was surprised?
>> She said it was a gut punch.
>> That's how I'm feeling
right now.
Like, he could be sending me
the same text messages
he's been sending her,
saying the same stuff
and telling her the same things
and saying good night at the
same time he's been saying it
to me.
*
I feel so stupid right now.
>> Why don't we take a break
for a second?
>> Thank you.
>> Yeah.
>> [crying]
>> * You can roll the day
* Mistakes are made
* For me
>> Hey.
>> I'm sorry, guys.
[sniffling]
I just don't understand.
I gave him so many options
and so many chances
to be honest with me.
>> He takes up a lot
of space in your world.
>> * Anyone...
>> Everyone knows about him.
You were gonna move
to California to be with him.
You were gonna choose
your college around him,
and no one in his world...
>> Knew who I was.
>> Knew who you were.
And, like, that sucks.
>> * Carry on
>> I don't even know where to go
from here.
>> Well, he's been in control
this whole time,
and look where it's left you.
We can call him and give him
a chance to meet with you
and explain all of this
and answer your questions.
Hang here for a minute.
We'll just let you know
what happens.
>> Okay.
Thank you, guys.
[tense music]
*
[line trills]
>> Hey, Justin.
This is Nev, and I'm with Max.
We're making an episode
of "Catfish" right now.
Yeah--is this an okay time?
I was just calling to see
if there's any way...
if we gave you the opportunity
to meet Leuh, like--
All right. All right.
O...kay.
>> [crying]
>> He's playing games with Leuh.
For 2 1/2 years, he's been
telling her things,
building her up.
He is beyond the acceptable
point of, like, understanding
that he has something going on,
and he's now in the realm of,
like, too bad.
>> We're going.
We're going to California.
>> If Leuh wants to go, we go.
So...
we had a call with Justin.
I didn't get to say much before
he said he definitely does not
want to be on the show/meet you.
>> He said, "It's not in my
best interest."
>> What about my best interest?
I mean, I've tried so many times
to meet him.
>> So our feeling is, well,
too bad.
If you didn't want a girl
to want to meet you, then don't
talk to her for 2 1/2 years.
Don't agree to meet with her
and then blow her off.
Don't talk to her about her
moving to come live with you.
Like, he put you in this
situation.
>> Right.
>> So we have his address.
We could just go and find him.
So now it's really
your decision,
'cause we're down for whatever.
>> It's hard because I've never,
like, stood up for myself
like this before,
but I know I need to.
I know it's what's best for me,
and I know I'm not gonna
get over this unless I get
the answers that I need.
I need to go there.
>> Plan on leaving
first thing in the morning.
>> All right.
I'll see you guys in the
morning, then.
>> It's 4:45 in the morning.
Still totally dark out.
>> This bird is ready to fly.
>> Hey.
>> Hi.
>> All right.
Let's go.
>> * I know that she was wrong
* But life is moving on
* And the anger that you feed
* Keeps you feeling justified
>> All right, guys.
Let's do it.
>> * Open your eyes, love
* 'Cause you've been sleeping *
>> Thank you.
Are you excited?
>> I'm getting nervous.
>> * Open your eyes, love
* You got me crying
>> Welcome back to Southern
California, Leuh.
>> Nothing.
We're still crashing
the party as of right now.
>> What do you think about
the idea of just heading over
to his place
and knocking on the door?
>> Got to do what you got to do.
>> All I know is we have
an address for him.
>> It's the only lead we have.
>> Right.
>> This is the first time
we've actively gone after
someone who told us no.
>> Ready or not, here we come.
I'm at a whole new level
of nervous right now.
I keep shaking.
Trying to get my
[bleep] together.
>> I think it's that,
like, really big house.
>> The white one?
>> Yeah.
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
>> Wow.
>> I feel like maybe it's best
if I go up, knock on the door
without all the cameras,
so that at least
I'm not ambushing him.
>> And do you know what you're
gonna ask him?
>> If he does agree
to talk to me, I'd start out by
thanking him for finally
meeting up with me.
>> Look, if he's in there,
and if he comes out,
you don't owe him anything.
>> Right.
>> Not even a thank you
for showing up at his own house.
>> You're right.
>> All right.
I'm gonna do this.
[tense music]
*
>> I'm freaking out, man.
[laughs]
>> There he goes.
[doorbell rings]
>> Hello.
Hey.
Nev Schulman.
>> Joe.
>> Joe, good to meet you.
Here looking for Justin.
He's not here?
Okay.
>> I'm not seeing anything.
Just hang tight.
>> I'm only asking
because I'm with Leuh.
>> Yeah, she's right in here.
Sure. Yeah.
Sure.
>> Oh, wait. Nev coming out.
>> Oh, my God.
What is happening?
>> Who's this?
>> Is that him?
>> It could be Justin.
>> No way.
>> Oh, boy.
>> He's coming this way.
Oh, my God.
>> Oh, wait...Nev coming out.
>> Oh, my God.
What is happening?
>> Who's this?
>> Is that him?
>> It could be Justin.
>> No way.
>> Oh, boy.
>> He's coming this way.
Oh, my God.
>> Justin's dad answered.
It's okay.
He's not the person
you've been talking to.
And he just kind of wanted
to meet you.
Do you mind meeting him?
>> Yeah. Do I look okay?
>> You look great.
>> Okay.
Let's go meet Justin's dad.
Not Justin.
Hi, Mr. [bleep].
>> Hello there.
>> This is Leuh.
>> I'm Leuh.
>> Hi, Leuh.
>> It's a pleasure to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> So, yeah.
So Leuh and Justin have been
talking for a couple years.
>> A couple years?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, I'm gonna have to
slap him around 'cause he never
told me about you.
This is amazing.
>> Yeah.
>> You're so pretty.
All right, Well, I'll tell him
that you came by.
>> Okay.
>> And, uh, nice meeting you.
>> Thank you so much.
It's nice to meet you.
>> Thanks again.
>> All right, you're welcome.
>> Wow.
What the [bleep]?
>> That was pretty weird.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> A little awkward.
>> I mean, but the dad
should know.
Your son's been talking
to an attractive girl
from Rochester, New York.
>> At least you met...somebody.
>> His dad...yeah.
>> We could hang out here,
although that's, like,
it could be hours.
We could text him.
>> Yeah...Do you want me
to text it or call?
>> Text him.
>> Okay.
>> I don't know, I guess we'll
just have to see if he
gets back to us.
He's either gonna completely
avoid us and disappear,
or he's gonna
understand how serious you are
and that this is his chance
and come up for air.
I mean, like,
if he decides not to meet up
with us, that's giving you
a pretty clear message.
Just keep an eye on your phone.
>> Okay.
>> Call us if something happens.
>> Okay.
Hi.
>> Hey--good morning.
>> Hey.
>> What's going on?
>> Not much.
>> Ugh.
Any news?
Any update?
>> No.
>> So, nothing?
No text?
>> No.
>> This is a cowardly quality.
You know what I mean?
>> Yeah.
>> Like, regardless of whatever
his secret is,
let's say he ends up
wanting to be with you,
et cetera, et cetera,
and you decide you're gonna date
him and everything.
Like, this still happened,
where he was not man enough
to come forward
when you needed something.
>> Yeah.
You're totally right.
I have no idea
what to do from here.
>> We've spoken to his friend.
Maybe he could just tell us
where he is.
>> Should we call Todd?
>> Sure.
>> Yeah.
[line trills]
>> Hey, good morning, Todd.
It's Nev and Max again.
I'm actually calling you
from Huntington Beach.
We flew out here yesterday.
Yeah.
We're really hopeful
that we'd get a chance
to meet up with Justin.
>> Uh-huh.
>> Probably our last day here.
Okay.
Thanks, man.
>> Let's go to the beach.
>> * Ah ah ah ah ah
>> Do you ever think about
why you're choosing Justin
over guys at home?
>> Yeah.
When I was younger,
I was awkward, unattractive.
Guys would make fun of me.
>> * In the back of your car
* In the early hours
>> Talking to Justin made things
a lot easier because he never
knew who I used to be.
>> * And you're messing with *
* My head
* But I want more
>> He saw me as somebody that
was like, perfect and he would
just like appreciate me no
matter what happened.
And then he goes and does
all this.
>> * Oh
* And I will try
* Forever, ever
* Ever, ever
>> It's hard to think that I
ever will feel the same way
about somebody else.
>> This is it.
Keep your eyes peeled.
[suspenseful music]
*
>> I see someone
right next to 15, to the left.
>> Yeah, that could be him.
This is the spot.
All right.
You ready to do this?
>> No, but it's now or never.
[Leuh takes deep breath]
>> You all right?
>> Yeah, I'm just freaking out.
Oh, my God.
>> We should probably
keep moving.
>> Okay, sorry.
>> It's okay--you got this.
>> Hey.
>> What's up?
>> Hey, man.
>> What's going on?
>> How you doing?
>> Good.
>> Nice to meet you--Nev.
>> Justin.
>> All right.
>> Max.
>> I'm Justin--nice to meet you.
>> All right.
Sorry to sort of
sneak up on you.
We spoke to Todd.
He said you guys were out here
surfing, so we just thought
we'd give it a shot.
>> I mean, this is
a little...
overwhelming.
So I got a little bit
of explaining to you guys
and also to her.
>> Not to us.
>> Well, I mean, you know.
>> Is there a reason you didn't
want to meet up with us?
>> It's just...
I didn't want to do the show.
Like, I've seen the show.
I know how people
tend to look on the show.
I was looking out for
what I thought was our best
interest by not doing it,
and you decided differently,
you know.
>> Yeah, but I've tried
meeting up with you twice
before this, so...
>> I know that, I mean...
>> I tried to give you
a fair chance.
>> I know.
I mean, like, when she
came out here,
I was in a relationship.
>> Wow.
>> We live on opposite ends
of the country, you know?
I had a real-life,
in person relationship,
you know, going on,
and I had to still live my life.
I wasn't gonna go behind that
girl's back either, you know?
>> Well, yeah, but I mean,
that was, like, a plan.
She tells you she wants to come
out here and look at schools
and visit you, and you were
very encouraging of that
and were like, "Yes,
this will be great.
We'll hang out."
And if you knew at the time
that you were in a relationship,
like, that's kind of messed up
because, you know,
you kind of put yourself
and her in that situation.
>> Right.
No, I mean, I understand.
It just--
timing wasn't the best,
and, you know, when she was in
Vegas, my car wouldn't make it.
Like, these are, like,
actual reasons.
I'm not, you know, bull[bleep]
you guys--I'm telling you,
I'm not bull[bleep] you,
and I told you that.
I'm not trying to do that.
>> She was under the impression
that you were also single
right now,
and she's single right now.
>> Are you single?
>> I'm not dating anyone
right now.
I mean, that's not--I'm sure
you guys assumed that as well,
but that's not the case.
>> Then why did you not want
to meet up with me now?
>> I was nervous.
Like...
>> I'm nervous.
>> I know, I know.
I mean, this is, you know,
this is, like, a big deal,
you know?
Like, I'm a very private person
when it comes to that.
>> This was your last chance
to meet me though.
Like, I get that you're nervous.
I was nervous, too, but
at the end of the day, like,
this was your last chance.
>> I mean, did I--
did I ruin...all hope for us?
Like...
>> You've seen the show, so you
know that we do some
research and stuff.
>> Yeah.
>> And we met this girl, Jamie,
and we talked to her,
and her story sounded a lot
like Leuh's story.
You guys have both confessed
feelings for each other.
She's far away.
>> Jamie and I have always
been friends.
I don't know what she said.
Unless she got the wrong idea,
I don't think that we've--
I've ever put in her head
that we were ever gonna start
a relationship--that we were
ever gonna meet up or anything
like that, you know?
>> Sure. But we called some of
your friends and we talked
to your dad briefly and, like,
no one seems to know
about Leuh at all.
And everyone in her life
knows all about you.
>> With, like, my parents,
it's a different generation,
you know?
Like, I can't exactly tell them,
like, "Hey, I met this girl
online."
Like, they wouldn't
understand that.
And my friends, I was afraid
of them judging me.
They go out to the bars
and meet girls.
They don't go online
and meet girls, you know?
It's not like I'm trying to hide
her in any way, shape, or form.
I mean...look at her.
Like, there's nothing to hide
with that.
Obviously there's feelings.
I mean, if you guys were in my
shoes, talking to a girl for a
couple years, that's not me just
messing with her for two years.
That's a waste of our time.
Why would I even want
to do that?
>> Sure.
Look, I don't think
you've really shown anything
to back up the things
that you say, considering
how you claim to feel about her.
>> I don't have to convince
either of you.
I don't have to convince
anyone then--
>> No, but you do have to
convince her.
>> I do.
>> Look, Leuh is a pushover.
A little bit.
She is.
I don't want her to get hurt
more than she actually
already is.
The thing that I still haven't
heard you say
is how you feel about her.
This girl you've been talking to
for 2 1/2 years is in front of
you, she's real.
What do you want to do?
>> This episode of
"Catfish: The TV Show"
continues now.
>> The thing that I still
haven't heard you say
is how you feel about her.
This girl you've been talking to
for 2 1/2 years is in front of
you--she's real.
What do you want to do?
>> I would like to
talk to her, you know?
It's a little overwhelming
having you guys here
and facilitating, like, yeah.
Let's take a walk.
>> Okay.
I didn't expect to meet you
like this.
You know, like, we've talked
about how we were gonna meet.
>> I know. Yeah.
>> But now I'm sneaking up
behind you on the beach.
>> [laughs]
>> We'll get that all
figured out, once, like,
at the wedding, you know?
>> [laughs]
>> It'll be fine.
It'll be fine.
>> We're getting married?
>> Of course.
>> Okay.
>> He's good-looking,
he's real, he's charming.
>> But here's the thing.
He needs to back up
what he's been saying.
It's weird that we show up here
and he sees her and,
like, he's not like,
"Oh, my God, it's you."
I feel like he should be
happier to see her if he's--
if he wants to be with her.
>> Sorry.
Sorry for all this.
I mean, we were good on our own
and everything but, like, this
has just kind of put a bump
in it, you know what I mean?
Like, with this happening,
it just, like, it threw me off.
Threw me for a loop.
I wasn't expecting any of this,
you know?
So I just immediately
got defensive.
Just don't hate me.
>> I should hate you.
>> Yeah.
>> But I can't because we've
been through too much together.
>> We have, dude.
>> Especially after this.
Well, I'm glad you are
who you say you are...
>> [laughs]
>> And I'm glad you look
the way you do.
>> Yeah.
You're definitely prettier
in person, so there's that.
>> I mean, does he really
want to date her or is...
>> You make me question
a lot of things.
>> You make me question a lot
of things...I didn't even know
if you were real or not.
>> I didn't know
if you were real.
>> Yeah, but I made more
of an effort than you.
>> I know, and I'm sorry
that I haven't.
What are we gonna do now?
>> I have no idea.
>> Just start, like, our
official long-distance
relationship now?
>> That'd be stupid.
>> You're coming out
here anyways.
>> I don't know.
We have to spend more
time together.
>> Assuming you're gonna want
to see me again and want to--
Ugh.
>> Hey, guys.
>> Hey, guys.
>> First of all, happy that you
guys get to talk, and I want to
give you more time to do that,
but I just wanted to chat
with you for a second.
>> Okay.
>> Just sort of check in.
See how everyone's feeling.
>> Okay.
>> So...
>> I'm trying to forgive him.
I mean, he has a lot
of making up to do.
>> What has he been saying?
>> I don't know.
He's, like, sweet-talking me.
So, like, I'm a little scared
that he's not meaning
what he says.
>> How do you feel
like it's going?
>> As of right now,
things are going really good.
I'm sorry.
I apologize to you for,
you know, giving you
a little run-around--I didn't
mean to do that, you know,
I just didn't want to...
I didn't want to jeopardize
anything with our relationship
by coming on this, and I didn't
want that to ultimately
end our relationship
because of a TV show.
>> Sure.
>> You know what I mean?
>> Look, there is another side
of this, too.
Just that, like, he doesn't want
to be on the show.
That's not necessarily
his fault, and he's not
a bad guy for it.
>> Right.
>> So maybe that's it.
>> I want things to work out
between us, like, really bad.
But do you think I'm being naïve
about all this?
>> I don't know.
>> If there's any concern
that it's not gonna happen,
please consider
hurting her feelings now.
>> Feelings.
>> Rather than letting her
dream for another six months
or a year that maybe
something's gonna work.
Like, that's all.
>> We obviously
want to give it a shot.
I want to give it a shot,
basically.
>> Sure.
>> You know, and I'm completely
open to that, and I know
that she is, too.
>> I get it.
Yeah, yeah.
>> I think he just needs
to start putting in a lot more
effort, and the more effort
he gives me, the better
our relationship will be.
>> It's kind of on him
to show you...
>> Yeah.
>> At this point.
>> It's in your hands now, man.
>> Do I get to
hang out with her?
>> So, yeah, I mean, usually
we don't find that the person
in question is who they say
they are, so we got all day.
>> Okay.
>> All right.
>> All right, cool.
It's nice meeting you.
>> Thank you so much.
>> Thanks, guys.
>> Yeah.
>> I appreciate this.
>> I think it went good.
>> Did he sweet-talk you, too?
>> No, I think he does
really like her.
>> We'll see.
>> * I just wanna be alive
* That's it *
* Alive
[line trills]
>> Hi.
>> both: Hey!
>> How are ya?
>> I'm good.
>> You look very nice.
>> Yeah, you look beautiful.
>> Thank you.
>> Okay, let's cut the chitchat.
What's going on
with you and Justin?
>> So everything
worked out really well.
He eventually made an effort to,
like, video chat with me,
and he's called me more
and stuff, so...
>> That's awesome.
>> Yeah.
Is Justin your boyfriend?
>> He hasn't asked the question,
but I'm moving there
in less than a month.
>> Wait, really?
>> What?
Are you serious?
>> Yeah.
I got my one way ticket
to California.
>> Oh, my God.
That's so cool.
>> He'll be my boyfriend
soon, I swear.
I got it in the bag.
[laughs]
>> Okay.
>> Hey, yeah, I think it's cool
that you're going for it.
>> Thank you guys so much
for helping me meet him.
>> That's what we're here for.
>> Yeah.
>> Bye.
>> Okay, bye.
[line trills]
>> both: Yo.
>> Hey.
>> Just had a nice chat
with Leuh.
>> We hear she's moving out.
>> Yeah, it's pretty exciting.
>> I mean, you know she's, like,
moving to California
to be with you?
>> Yeah, I'm pretty jazzed
about it--not gonna lie.
>> You promise you're not gonna
mysteriously disappear
when she gets to California?
>> I promise you guys
I will be there.
You guys have my word.
>> All right, good.
>> I will pick her up and, uh,
you know, you'll get
an invitation to the wedding.
Don't worry.
>> All right.
>> All right.
>> You guys would be the first
"Catfish" wedding.
We're always hoping for it.
>> This wouldn't have happened
without you guys.
I really appreciate this.
>> All right, man, later.
>> See ya.
>> You guys know Karrueche?
She's here to help me
co-host this episode.
>> You're a little bit of
sunshine in here.
>> I met McKenna on Kik.
>> They're in love.
>> Who is this person?
>> [gasps]
>> This is where the [bleep]
hits the fan.
>> Why her?
Why couldn't it have been
someone else?
>> I've seen some interesting
stuff on the show, but this is,
like, borderline stalker.
>> [bleep]. Oh, God.
1710
00:41:04.
we've actively gone
after someone who told us no.
I'm not seeing anything.
Just hang tight.
Oh, wait--Nev coming out.
>> What is happening?
>> Who's this?
Oh, boy.
>> He's coming this way.
Oh, my God.
[upbeat electronic music]
*
>> Hey, I've been working out.
>> Have you?
[thud]
Uhh!
[both laugh]
Let it out, Max.
[grunts] Uhh!
[both laugh]
It's time to get
down to business.
Someone needs our help.
The cat signal's up.
>> Meow.
>> Here's an email from Leuh.
>> Leuh? "Le-uh."
>> "I need to know
what's going on with Justin.
My future may depend on it.
My name is Leuh.
I am 19, and I live
in Rochester, New York.
I think I have met
the perfect guy.
His name is Justin.
He lives in Huntington Beach,
California.
We met two years ago
on Instagram,
and we completely hit it off.
>> * Baby
* I'm in love with you *
>> "Besides being
incredibly attractive,
he's unlike any guy
I've ever met.
>> * It's crazy *
* I'm in love with you *
>> I'm even picking
my four-year college
so I can be near him.
I think it's safe to say
I've fallen for him
in these past few years."
>> * I'm in love with you *
>> Big life decisions
being made around Justin.
>> Yeah.
>> So, we have yet
to get to the problem.
>> "I have tried a few times
to get him to video chat,
but he has never owned
a computer with a webcam."
>> Sounds like BS.
>> "After a year of talking,
I had the chance
to fly to California
with my mom to look at colleges
so I could see him."
>> Smart.
>> "When the time came to meet
at a restaurant he suggested,
he stopped answering his phone."
>> Unacceptable.
>> "After that,
we didn't talk for a bit.
But I eventually forgave him
because he is too important
for me to stay mad at.
I am in love with him,
and I am ready to move
across the country
to be with him.
But before I can do this,
I need to know he's real.
Please help."
>> All right.
>> This guy is making
a huge impact on her future
and her life.
>> Let's get her on the phone.
>> Here we go.
[line ringing]
>> Hey, guys.
[overlapping greetings]
How are you?
>> Hey, Leuh.
We're good; how are you?
>> I'm good, thank you.
>> So, we just read your email.
Why don't you just tell us
quickly a little bit
about Justin.
>> He is such a cool guy.
I've never met anyone
like him before in my life.
Like, he's tall, dark,
and handsome.
He has tattoos.
We go to each other
for problems, and we help
each other through so much.
He's just a really important
person in my life.
Even when he stood me up twice.
>> In the email,
you only told one story
of when he stood you up.
What was the other time?
>> The second time was
I went out to Vegas
with my family.
I was a few hours away from him.
He didn't give me any heads-up
that he was gonna cancel on me,
but he just started giving me,
like, all these crazy excuses
like, "Oh, my car
won't make it that far."
Like, "It's not working
too well now."
>> I mean, you know that
something's up, right?
>> Yeah, but I can't move on.
Like, this guy's
so important to me.
Like, I just love him too much.
This is kind of, like,
my last option.
I really, really, really
want to meet him.
>> All right, well, I know
you've waited a few years.
But if you can wait,
let us get out to you,
and we'll track him down
and hopefully you'll get
to lay eyes on Justin.
>> The man of my dreams.
>> Sure.
>> Thank you so much.
>> both: All right, Leuh.
>> Bye.
Have a good day.
>> See ya.
>> Bye. Oh, man.
>> "Man of my dreams."
>> This girl's sweet.
>> Ugh, I know--it's just,
I want this to be real.
>> No, her heart's
about to break.
It's not looking good.
>> The reality is
something's up.
We should definitely head up
there and help her out.
>> All right.
>> Rochester...yeah.
>> *It's time *
* To call it off
* It's time to *
* Walk out the door
* It's time to *
* It's time to *
>> We made it to Rochester.
>> Look at this neighborhood.
It's so charming.
I love it here.
Oh. That her?
>> Oh, my God.
>> Hi.
>> Hey, Leuh.
Ooh.
>> VIP parking.
>> Hi! It's so nice to finally
meet you.
>> Oh, my God, you're right
here...I thought you were gonna
be waiting on the veranda.
>> We're here.
We're finally here.
>> Come on in.
>> Look at this.
Look how cute she is.
>> Oh, my God.
"Welcome, 'Catfish.'"
Well, let's sit down.
>> Okay.
>> And hang out a little bit.
I see you've got some art
on your body.
>> I do.
>> With more on the way.
>> Yep.
>> Cool.
>> I got to color it in still.
>> You doing full sleeves?
>> I'm gonna try to, yeah.
>> Wait, are you partly inspired
to get tattoos
because he has tattoos?
>> I mean, he has a ton,
so, yeah.
>> Oh.
>> I want to be like his type.
You know what I mean?
>> Ooh.
>> Yeah.
>> So, explain how you met him.
>> He just commented
on one of my pictures just,
like, out of the blue one day
telling me I looked good.
So I checked out his page.
I was like, "Wow,
you're really cute.
I got to DM you."
I was like, "Yeah.
Here's my number."
Like, "You should definitely
text me sometime."
>> And you have talked
on the phone, right?
>> Yeah.
>> Does he have other social
media accounts?
Did you friend him on Facebook
or do you follow him on Twitter
or, like, you guys Snapchat?
>> Well, Facebook is,
like, where I have, like,
my grandma and stuff.
So I keep that to my family.
I don't really, like, add people
from other social media.
So I never asked him, really.
Just kept it on Instagram.
>> And do you know anything
about, like, his friends?
>> Yeah.
His, like, best friend
is this kid, Todd.
>> Todd what?
>> I don't know his last name.
>> But you feel very confident
Justin's legit?
>> [sighs]
For the most part.
But my friends and my mom
are, like, super-skeptical,
and they're like, "Leuh, you're
just making a huge mistake.
You're gonna
get your heart broken."
But I don't like to see it
like that, because I want to
believe that the person I'm in
love with is who they say they
are--you know what I mean?
>> Can we see him?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay, so this is your
Instagram account?
>> Yeah.
>> So let's go to his page.
>> [gasps]
>> No posts.
>> He blocked me.
>> He did block you.
>> I just looked at his page
yesterday.
He just texted me
and sent me a heart.
Like, why?
>> That's really weird.
Did something happen?
>> No.
>> Did he know that we were
coming to make the show?
>> I didn't tell him.
I told him that I emailed
you guys, and that's the last
thing I said to him.
>> Well, that's weird.
>> Maybe he started following
Nev or myself on social media
and saw that we were
in Rochester.
>> Whew...
Well, look.
You need to give us whatever
information you do have.
Phone numbers, email,
friends' names.
We'll get to the bottom of this.
>> Okay.
Thank you so much.
>> We're on the case.
>> Drive safe.
>> Oh, man.
She's getting those tattoos
all over her arm--
>> Right.
>> In preparation to meet him.
>> Yeah.
>> She just doesn't quite fully
understand that he could
be a total fake.
>> This is gonna be bad.
[upbeat music]
>> * Oh, oh-oh-ohh
* Tell me what you want...
>> We found a cool coffee shop.
>> You ready to crack this
case wide open?
>> I'm ready, just--
>> * Tell me what you want
* From me
>> [sneezes]
Ahh. All right.
Investigation time.
Here we go.
>> All right.
Recap: Leuh met Justin 2 1/2
years ago.
Instagram direct message,
then text message.
Then she went to visit him,
but he blew her off.
And she has
exclusively considered schools
in Southern California
because that's where he lives.
Something's definitely up.
Here we go.
"Below is the information
I have on Justin.
His phone number.
His Instagram.
His last name.
He lives in Huntington Beach."
That's it.
"I don't have any other
social media for him.
I know he's mentioned Facebook
before, but I have never
seen it."
>> All right.
Let's search
Justin's phone number.
>> Okay. Here we go.
Searching, searching.
>> both: Ohh!
>> Rita.
That's his last name.
That's good news.
>> That's great news.
>> That means it's probably
registered to his mom.
Age mid-50s.
That never happens.
That never happens.
Huntington Beach.
That's great.
>> It's great for us, 'cause
the story is checking out.
>> Right.
Well, at least his name
we now know
is actually his last name.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay, here's his address
in California.
Well, that's helpful
information--are you writing
any of this down?
>> Yep.
>> Okay, we got to look this guy
up on Instagram.
Instagram/J [bleep].
He looks like he's in his 20s.
>> Yeah.
>> 1,600 followers.
>> That's real-ish.
>> Yeah. That's a normal amount.
400 posts.
God, I wish he wasn't private.
>> If we just search for Justin
[bleep] on Instagram,
would we find other pictures
that people tag him in?
>> We can try.
Okay, here's an Instagram.
Is he tagged in this?
>> Isn't that him
with the backwards hat?
>> This guy?
>> Yeah.
>> Is that him?
>> I think so.
J [bleep], yeah.
>> Yeah, he's tagged
in this picture.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, that's good.
>> Yeah. People are tagging him.
Look, he's in another picture
right there.
>> Yeah.
>> So, search for Justin [bleep]
on Facebook.
>> Justin [bleep].
Here's a Facebook page.
>> So, he does have
a Facebook page.
>> That was easy.
I can't believe she didn't know
he had this.
>> Well, she didn't search.
>> Okay.
Let's see about...single.
>> It says he's single.
That's good.
Okay, birthday April, '91.
Which would make him 24, yeah.
>> 24.
>> We've never had someone
check out so easily.
>> Yeah, I mean,
he's got a Facebook page
that we found, he's tagged
in other people's profiles.
His phone number checks out.
Everything points
to him being real.
>> But as we've learned,
when the person ends up
being who they said they were,
the reasons why they've kept
the other person away from them
are generally worse.
>> Worse.
All right.
So, 20 hours ago he updated
his profile picture.
>> He's got tattoos.
Who's that?
>> both: Who is that?
>> Jamie [bleep].
"Handsome," smiley face.
And he wrote back, "Thanks."
>> Oh, so he's flirting
with this girl.
>> Who's Jamie [bleep]?
Okay. She's cute.
She's got tattoos.
>> She's in Kentucky.
>> She's got a kid.
"I'm just ready
to move to California."
>> What?
>> Maybe he's got
lots of, like--
>> Maybe there are multiple--
>> Cute girls around
the country.
>> Leuhs.
He could be, like, a serial
Internet man-slut.
I mean, look at that picture.
Is that the friend?
Todd?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> That's Justin's friend.
>> I mean, normally
we're convinced that the person
is lying about who they are.
>> Correct.
>> In this case, since it looks
like it's actually him,
now we need to start
investigating
why he'd be avoiding her.
So let's send a message
to Todd, who's clearly, like,
a good friend of his.
"Hey, Todd.
We'd love to ask you
a couple questions."
Send.
Should we send Jamie
a message?
She's the last person
that he interacted with
on his Facebook.
>> Yeah, let's send her
a message.
>> Yeah, okay, great.
Well, let's wait and see
if anyone gets back to us.
Either way,
it's looking very much
like Justin is actually
exactly who he says he is.
But why doesn't he want to meet
this beautiful,
healthy young lady?
>> He might have another
beautiful, healthy young lady
in his life,
and there might not be space
for the two of them.
>> That's looking more
and more likely.
>> Good investigation.
[mellow music]
>> Really raining.
>> It's a beautiful day.
>> This feels very regal.
>> It is.
It does feel like tea time.
[chuckles]
>> I got a voicemail.
Check this out.
Let's see.
All right.
[line trills]
>> Hello.
Good morning, Todd.
Thanks for getting back to me.
Have you seen the show
"Catfish"?
Okay, cool.
We're making an episode
of the show right now,
and this girl Leuh
is talking to your buddy Justin.
Yeah.
You know, in looking into
Justin, we came across you
and your profile, and you guys
seem to be pretty close.
Has he ever mentioned
a girl named Leuh?
We're not trying to blow up
his spot or anything.
He's kind of avoided her
a few times, and we weren't sure
why that would be.
Yeah. All right.
Thank you for getting
back to us.
Later, man.
>> Is he just not serious
about her?
Everyone is very aware
of Justin on her side,
and no one knows who Leuh is
on Justin's side,
which is not good.
>> Right.
[chime]
Oh, I got a message from Jamie.
Jamie was the girl--
>> The girl.
>> Who just recently commented
on his profile.
>> Right, she's another girl
in another part of the country
that's flirting with Justin.
>> Jamie says, "Oh, my God,
is this for real?
Call me when you guys
have time."
Let's give her a call.
[line trills]
>> Hey, Jamie.
It's Nev and Max from "Catfish."
The reason we reached out
to you is because we saw
that you are friends
with a guy name Justin [bleep].
What's the nature
of your relationship?
So, basically, there's a girl
that we're helping who,
similar to you,
has been talking to him,
met him on Instagram...
but sort of very much
under the impression that
if they did meet,
they would very much be
in a relationship.
Yeah.
So--
Yeah.
I can't say how this is
gonna turn out, but I hope
you find a great guy.
Bye.
>> She was hurt.
>> Yeah.
She's a little heartbroken,
like, over this guy.
>> Yeah.
It doesn't look good for Leuh.
He's an Internet player.
>> Hey.
>> Hi.
My mom and my friend
are here right now.
>> Oh, nice.
>> Max and Nev, this is my mom,
and this is Amanda.
>> Hi.
>> Hi, nice to meet you.
>> Nev--hello.
>> Amanda.
>> I'm Kim, Leuh's mom.
>> Kim, nice to meet you.
This is Max.
>> Hi, nice to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> And how do you guys
know each other?
>> Oh, we have been friends
since we were, like,
five or six years old.
>> And there's nothing
they don't know
about Justin, right?
>> Yeah--I mean, they're the
two closest people to me,
so I feel like they've
been there the whole time
and they understand everything
that's, like, really happened
between us.
>> What's your take on this
whole situation?
>> Oh, I definitely don't
want to keep seeing her
upset over it.
Like, he won't meet up with her,
but he expects her to have
this loyalty to him.
So that's the thing
that I think is kind of weird.
It just makes me feel like
he's hiding something.
Like, that's what
I really think.
>> Yeah, I just want her to have
an answer so we can move on.
>> If it were to turn out
to actually be the person
that she's talking to, would you
still be for this relationship?
>> If I was able to talk to him
and ask him a million questions,
yes.
As long as I have answers
and they're good answers, and as
long as she stays in school
and pursues her degrees.
>> I mean, you've heard all this
before, I imagine, right?
>> Yeah.
>> All right, so we're gonna
sit down with Leuh
for a little bit.
>> Okay. Bye.
>> Bye.
>> Nice meeting you.
>> All right, why don't you
have a seat?
Let's just go over all of this.
>> Okay.
>> All right.
So, we took the phone number
that you have for Justin
and we ran it on the website.
Lo and behold,
it's registered to someone
named Rita [bleep].
>> The same last name.
>> Which is good,
because while it's possible
that you're talking to a woman
in her mid-50s--
>> Yeah.
>> More likely that
that's his mom.
>> Okay.
>> So then we thought, "Okay.
Let's see if we can find
this guy on Facebook."
And we found this Facebook page.
>> Okay.
>> You've never seen this?
>> No.
I've never asked him
for his Facebook or anything.
>> And you never tried
just looking him up?
>> No.
>> Okay.
Well, he posted
this new profile picture.
So, presumably, this is what
he's looking like at the moment.
That's all good.
>> Yeah.
>> So we figured, "Okay,
if this is a real Facebook page,
and he's got friends tagged,
let's go to those friends' pages
and see if they're real."
So here's Todd's Facebook page.
We sent him a message.
"I'd love to talk to you.
It's about one of your friends."
>> Mm-hm.
>> Then, early this morning,
we got a message back,
and Todd was really cool.
Sounded like a good guy.
Told us, "Yeah, that's Justin,
and yeah, that's his page."
Which means that...
>> You're talking
to the real guy.
>> Justin has to be real.
Okay.
I feel so much better
now that I know it's actually,
like, probably him.
>> But,
when I brought up you,
Todd had no idea
and had never heard about you.
>> That's shady.
I thought his friends
definitely knew about me.
I mean, we've been talking
for so long.
>> Yeah.
>> It's kind of like a tradeoff.
Like, it's good that it's him,
but then what is he hiding?
>> Right.
>> Yeah.
So we figured, "Okay, he just
posted his photo two days ago.
Who's commenting on it?
Who's liking it?"
So we clicked on it,
and the first comment
is from somebody named Jamie,
and she says, "Handsome,"
smiley face.
To which he replied, "Thanks."
>> Smiley face.
>> Right.
That feels a little bit
like flirting.
>> Yeah, it definitely feels
like flirting.
That bothers me.
>> So we messaged her, too.
>> Oh, God.
>> And much to our amazement,
she met Justin via Instagram.
Over the last few years,
they've had a very similar
correspondence
that you've had.
She has a really big
crush on him.
He's been very affectionate
towards her.
>> And did you tell her
about me, or...
>> Yeah.
>> We did.
>> And she was surprised?
>> She said it was a gut punch.
>> That's how I'm feeling
right now.
Like, he could be sending me
the same text messages
he's been sending her,
saying the same stuff
and telling her the same things
and saying good night at the
same time he's been saying it
to me.
*
I feel so stupid right now.
>> Why don't we take a break
for a second?
>> Thank you.
>> Yeah.
>> [crying]
>> * You can roll the day
* Mistakes are made
* For me
>> Hey.
>> I'm sorry, guys.
[sniffling]
I just don't understand.
I gave him so many options
and so many chances
to be honest with me.
>> He takes up a lot
of space in your world.
>> * Anyone...
>> Everyone knows about him.
You were gonna move
to California to be with him.
You were gonna choose
your college around him,
and no one in his world...
>> Knew who I was.
>> Knew who you were.
And, like, that sucks.
>> * Carry on
>> I don't even know where to go
from here.
>> Well, he's been in control
this whole time,
and look where it's left you.
We can call him and give him
a chance to meet with you
and explain all of this
and answer your questions.
Hang here for a minute.
We'll just let you know
what happens.
>> Okay.
Thank you, guys.
[tense music]
*
[line trills]
>> Hey, Justin.
This is Nev, and I'm with Max.
We're making an episode
of "Catfish" right now.
Yeah--is this an okay time?
I was just calling to see
if there's any way...
if we gave you the opportunity
to meet Leuh, like--
All right. All right.
O...kay.
>> [crying]
>> He's playing games with Leuh.
For 2 1/2 years, he's been
telling her things,
building her up.
He is beyond the acceptable
point of, like, understanding
that he has something going on,
and he's now in the realm of,
like, too bad.
>> We're going.
We're going to California.
>> If Leuh wants to go, we go.
So...
we had a call with Justin.
I didn't get to say much before
he said he definitely does not
want to be on the show/meet you.
>> He said, "It's not in my
best interest."
>> What about my best interest?
I mean, I've tried so many times
to meet him.
>> So our feeling is, well,
too bad.
If you didn't want a girl
to want to meet you, then don't
talk to her for 2 1/2 years.
Don't agree to meet with her
and then blow her off.
Don't talk to her about her
moving to come live with you.
Like, he put you in this
situation.
>> Right.
>> So we have his address.
We could just go and find him.
So now it's really
your decision,
'cause we're down for whatever.
>> It's hard because I've never,
like, stood up for myself
like this before,
but I know I need to.
I know it's what's best for me,
and I know I'm not gonna
get over this unless I get
the answers that I need.
I need to go there.
>> Plan on leaving
first thing in the morning.
>> All right.
I'll see you guys in the
morning, then.
>> It's 4:45 in the morning.
Still totally dark out.
>> This bird is ready to fly.
>> Hey.
>> Hi.
>> All right.
Let's go.
>> * I know that she was wrong
* But life is moving on
* And the anger that you feed
* Keeps you feeling justified
>> All right, guys.
Let's do it.
>> * Open your eyes, love
* 'Cause you've been sleeping *
>> Thank you.
Are you excited?
>> I'm getting nervous.
>> * Open your eyes, love
* You got me crying
>> Welcome back to Southern
California, Leuh.
>> Nothing.
We're still crashing
the party as of right now.
>> What do you think about
the idea of just heading over
to his place
and knocking on the door?
>> Got to do what you got to do.
>> All I know is we have
an address for him.
>> It's the only lead we have.
>> Right.
>> This is the first time
we've actively gone after
someone who told us no.
>> Ready or not, here we come.
I'm at a whole new level
of nervous right now.
I keep shaking.
Trying to get my
[bleep] together.
>> I think it's that,
like, really big house.
>> The white one?
>> Yeah.
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
>> Wow.
>> I feel like maybe it's best
if I go up, knock on the door
without all the cameras,
so that at least
I'm not ambushing him.
>> And do you know what you're
gonna ask him?
>> If he does agree
to talk to me, I'd start out by
thanking him for finally
meeting up with me.
>> Look, if he's in there,
and if he comes out,
you don't owe him anything.
>> Right.
>> Not even a thank you
for showing up at his own house.
>> You're right.
>> All right.
I'm gonna do this.
[tense music]
*
>> I'm freaking out, man.
[laughs]
>> There he goes.
[doorbell rings]
>> Hello.
Hey.
Nev Schulman.
>> Joe.
>> Joe, good to meet you.
Here looking for Justin.
He's not here?
Okay.
>> I'm not seeing anything.
Just hang tight.
>> I'm only asking
because I'm with Leuh.
>> Yeah, she's right in here.
Sure. Yeah.
Sure.
>> Oh, wait. Nev coming out.
>> Oh, my God.
What is happening?
>> Who's this?
>> Is that him?
>> It could be Justin.
>> No way.
>> Oh, boy.
>> He's coming this way.
Oh, my God.
>> Oh, wait...Nev coming out.
>> Oh, my God.
What is happening?
>> Who's this?
>> Is that him?
>> It could be Justin.
>> No way.
>> Oh, boy.
>> He's coming this way.
Oh, my God.
>> Justin's dad answered.
It's okay.
He's not the person
you've been talking to.
And he just kind of wanted
to meet you.
Do you mind meeting him?
>> Yeah. Do I look okay?
>> You look great.
>> Okay.
Let's go meet Justin's dad.
Not Justin.
Hi, Mr. [bleep].
>> Hello there.
>> This is Leuh.
>> I'm Leuh.
>> Hi, Leuh.
>> It's a pleasure to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> So, yeah.
So Leuh and Justin have been
talking for a couple years.
>> A couple years?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, I'm gonna have to
slap him around 'cause he never
told me about you.
This is amazing.
>> Yeah.
>> You're so pretty.
All right, Well, I'll tell him
that you came by.
>> Okay.
>> And, uh, nice meeting you.
>> Thank you so much.
It's nice to meet you.
>> Thanks again.
>> All right, you're welcome.
>> Wow.
What the [bleep]?
>> That was pretty weird.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> A little awkward.
>> I mean, but the dad
should know.
Your son's been talking
to an attractive girl
from Rochester, New York.
>> At least you met...somebody.
>> His dad...yeah.
>> We could hang out here,
although that's, like,
it could be hours.
We could text him.
>> Yeah...Do you want me
to text it or call?
>> Text him.
>> Okay.
>> I don't know, I guess we'll
just have to see if he
gets back to us.
He's either gonna completely
avoid us and disappear,
or he's gonna
understand how serious you are
and that this is his chance
and come up for air.
I mean, like,
if he decides not to meet up
with us, that's giving you
a pretty clear message.
Just keep an eye on your phone.
>> Okay.
>> Call us if something happens.
>> Okay.
Hi.
>> Hey--good morning.
>> Hey.
>> What's going on?
>> Not much.
>> Ugh.
Any news?
Any update?
>> No.
>> So, nothing?
No text?
>> No.
>> This is a cowardly quality.
You know what I mean?
>> Yeah.
>> Like, regardless of whatever
his secret is,
let's say he ends up
wanting to be with you,
et cetera, et cetera,
and you decide you're gonna date
him and everything.
Like, this still happened,
where he was not man enough
to come forward
when you needed something.
>> Yeah.
You're totally right.
I have no idea
what to do from here.
>> We've spoken to his friend.
Maybe he could just tell us
where he is.
>> Should we call Todd?
>> Sure.
>> Yeah.
[line trills]
>> Hey, good morning, Todd.
It's Nev and Max again.
I'm actually calling you
from Huntington Beach.
We flew out here yesterday.
Yeah.
We're really hopeful
that we'd get a chance
to meet up with Justin.
>> Uh-huh.
>> Probably our last day here.
Okay.
Thanks, man.
>> Let's go to the beach.
>> * Ah ah ah ah ah
>> Do you ever think about
why you're choosing Justin
over guys at home?
>> Yeah.
When I was younger,
I was awkward, unattractive.
Guys would make fun of me.
>> * In the back of your car
* In the early hours
>> Talking to Justin made things
a lot easier because he never
knew who I used to be.
>> * And you're messing with *
* My head
* But I want more
>> He saw me as somebody that
was like, perfect and he would
just like appreciate me no
matter what happened.
And then he goes and does
all this.
>> * Oh
* And I will try
* Forever, ever
* Ever, ever
>> It's hard to think that I
ever will feel the same way
about somebody else.
>> This is it.
Keep your eyes peeled.
[suspenseful music]
*
>> I see someone
right next to 15, to the left.
>> Yeah, that could be him.
This is the spot.
All right.
You ready to do this?
>> No, but it's now or never.
[Leuh takes deep breath]
>> You all right?
>> Yeah, I'm just freaking out.
Oh, my God.
>> We should probably
keep moving.
>> Okay, sorry.
>> It's okay--you got this.
>> Hey.
>> What's up?
>> Hey, man.
>> What's going on?
>> How you doing?
>> Good.
>> Nice to meet you--Nev.
>> Justin.
>> All right.
>> Max.
>> I'm Justin--nice to meet you.
>> All right.
Sorry to sort of
sneak up on you.
We spoke to Todd.
He said you guys were out here
surfing, so we just thought
we'd give it a shot.
>> I mean, this is
a little...
overwhelming.
So I got a little bit
of explaining to you guys
and also to her.
>> Not to us.
>> Well, I mean, you know.
>> Is there a reason you didn't
want to meet up with us?
>> It's just...
I didn't want to do the show.
Like, I've seen the show.
I know how people
tend to look on the show.
I was looking out for
what I thought was our best
interest by not doing it,
and you decided differently,
you know.
>> Yeah, but I've tried
meeting up with you twice
before this, so...
>> I know that, I mean...
>> I tried to give you
a fair chance.
>> I know.
I mean, like, when she
came out here,
I was in a relationship.
>> Wow.
>> We live on opposite ends
of the country, you know?
I had a real-life,
in person relationship,
you know, going on,
and I had to still live my life.
I wasn't gonna go behind that
girl's back either, you know?
>> Well, yeah, but I mean,
that was, like, a plan.
She tells you she wants to come
out here and look at schools
and visit you, and you were
very encouraging of that
and were like, "Yes,
this will be great.
We'll hang out."
And if you knew at the time
that you were in a relationship,
like, that's kind of messed up
because, you know,
you kind of put yourself
and her in that situation.
>> Right.
No, I mean, I understand.
It just--
timing wasn't the best,
and, you know, when she was in
Vegas, my car wouldn't make it.
Like, these are, like,
actual reasons.
I'm not, you know, bull[bleep]
you guys--I'm telling you,
I'm not bull[bleep] you,
and I told you that.
I'm not trying to do that.
>> She was under the impression
that you were also single
right now,
and she's single right now.
>> Are you single?
>> I'm not dating anyone
right now.
I mean, that's not--I'm sure
you guys assumed that as well,
but that's not the case.
>> Then why did you not want
to meet up with me now?
>> I was nervous.
Like...
>> I'm nervous.
>> I know, I know.
I mean, this is, you know,
this is, like, a big deal,
you know?
Like, I'm a very private person
when it comes to that.
>> This was your last chance
to meet me though.
Like, I get that you're nervous.
I was nervous, too, but
at the end of the day, like,
this was your last chance.
>> I mean, did I--
did I ruin...all hope for us?
Like...
>> You've seen the show, so you
know that we do some
research and stuff.
>> Yeah.
>> And we met this girl, Jamie,
and we talked to her,
and her story sounded a lot
like Leuh's story.
You guys have both confessed
feelings for each other.
She's far away.
>> Jamie and I have always
been friends.
I don't know what she said.
Unless she got the wrong idea,
I don't think that we've--
I've ever put in her head
that we were ever gonna start
a relationship--that we were
ever gonna meet up or anything
like that, you know?
>> Sure. But we called some of
your friends and we talked
to your dad briefly and, like,
no one seems to know
about Leuh at all.
And everyone in her life
knows all about you.
>> With, like, my parents,
it's a different generation,
you know?
Like, I can't exactly tell them,
like, "Hey, I met this girl
online."
Like, they wouldn't
understand that.
And my friends, I was afraid
of them judging me.
They go out to the bars
and meet girls.
They don't go online
and meet girls, you know?
It's not like I'm trying to hide
her in any way, shape, or form.
I mean...look at her.
Like, there's nothing to hide
with that.
Obviously there's feelings.
I mean, if you guys were in my
shoes, talking to a girl for a
couple years, that's not me just
messing with her for two years.
That's a waste of our time.
Why would I even want
to do that?
>> Sure.
Look, I don't think
you've really shown anything
to back up the things
that you say, considering
how you claim to feel about her.
>> I don't have to convince
either of you.
I don't have to convince
anyone then--
>> No, but you do have to
convince her.
>> I do.
>> Look, Leuh is a pushover.
A little bit.
She is.
I don't want her to get hurt
more than she actually
already is.
The thing that I still haven't
heard you say
is how you feel about her.
This girl you've been talking to
for 2 1/2 years is in front of
you, she's real.
What do you want to do?
>> This episode of
"Catfish: The TV Show"
continues now.
>> The thing that I still
haven't heard you say
is how you feel about her.
This girl you've been talking to
for 2 1/2 years is in front of
you--she's real.
What do you want to do?
>> I would like to
talk to her, you know?
It's a little overwhelming
having you guys here
and facilitating, like, yeah.
Let's take a walk.
>> Okay.
I didn't expect to meet you
like this.
You know, like, we've talked
about how we were gonna meet.
>> I know. Yeah.
>> But now I'm sneaking up
behind you on the beach.
>> [laughs]
>> We'll get that all
figured out, once, like,
at the wedding, you know?
>> [laughs]
>> It'll be fine.
It'll be fine.
>> We're getting married?
>> Of course.
>> Okay.
>> He's good-looking,
he's real, he's charming.
>> But here's the thing.
He needs to back up
what he's been saying.
It's weird that we show up here
and he sees her and,
like, he's not like,
"Oh, my God, it's you."
I feel like he should be
happier to see her if he's--
if he wants to be with her.
>> Sorry.
Sorry for all this.
I mean, we were good on our own
and everything but, like, this
has just kind of put a bump
in it, you know what I mean?
Like, with this happening,
it just, like, it threw me off.
Threw me for a loop.
I wasn't expecting any of this,
you know?
So I just immediately
got defensive.
Just don't hate me.
>> I should hate you.
>> Yeah.
>> But I can't because we've
been through too much together.
>> We have, dude.
>> Especially after this.
Well, I'm glad you are
who you say you are...
>> [laughs]
>> And I'm glad you look
the way you do.
>> Yeah.
You're definitely prettier
in person, so there's that.
>> I mean, does he really
want to date her or is...
>> You make me question
a lot of things.
>> You make me question a lot
of things...I didn't even know
if you were real or not.
>> I didn't know
if you were real.
>> Yeah, but I made more
of an effort than you.
>> I know, and I'm sorry
that I haven't.
What are we gonna do now?
>> I have no idea.
>> Just start, like, our
official long-distance
relationship now?
>> That'd be stupid.
>> You're coming out
here anyways.
>> I don't know.
We have to spend more
time together.
>> Assuming you're gonna want
to see me again and want to--
Ugh.
>> Hey, guys.
>> Hey, guys.
>> First of all, happy that you
guys get to talk, and I want to
give you more time to do that,
but I just wanted to chat
with you for a second.
>> Okay.
>> Just sort of check in.
See how everyone's feeling.
>> Okay.
>> So...
>> I'm trying to forgive him.
I mean, he has a lot
of making up to do.
>> What has he been saying?
>> I don't know.
He's, like, sweet-talking me.
So, like, I'm a little scared
that he's not meaning
what he says.
>> How do you feel
like it's going?
>> As of right now,
things are going really good.
I'm sorry.
I apologize to you for,
you know, giving you
a little run-around--I didn't
mean to do that, you know,
I just didn't want to...
I didn't want to jeopardize
anything with our relationship
by coming on this, and I didn't
want that to ultimately
end our relationship
because of a TV show.
>> Sure.
>> You know what I mean?
>> Look, there is another side
of this, too.
Just that, like, he doesn't want
to be on the show.
That's not necessarily
his fault, and he's not
a bad guy for it.
>> Right.
>> So maybe that's it.
>> I want things to work out
between us, like, really bad.
But do you think I'm being naïve
about all this?
>> I don't know.
>> If there's any concern
that it's not gonna happen,
please consider
hurting her feelings now.
>> Feelings.
>> Rather than letting her
dream for another six months
or a year that maybe
something's gonna work.
Like, that's all.
>> We obviously
want to give it a shot.
I want to give it a shot,
basically.
>> Sure.
>> You know, and I'm completely
open to that, and I know
that she is, too.
>> I get it.
Yeah, yeah.
>> I think he just needs
to start putting in a lot more
effort, and the more effort
he gives me, the better
our relationship will be.
>> It's kind of on him
to show you...
>> Yeah.
>> At this point.
>> It's in your hands now, man.
>> Do I get to
hang out with her?
>> So, yeah, I mean, usually
we don't find that the person
in question is who they say
they are, so we got all day.
>> Okay.
>> All right.
>> All right, cool.
It's nice meeting you.
>> Thank you so much.
>> Thanks, guys.
>> Yeah.
>> I appreciate this.
>> I think it went good.
>> Did he sweet-talk you, too?
>> No, I think he does
really like her.
>> We'll see.
>> * I just wanna be alive
* That's it *
* Alive
[line trills]
>> Hi.
>> both: Hey!
>> How are ya?
>> I'm good.
>> You look very nice.
>> Yeah, you look beautiful.
>> Thank you.
>> Okay, let's cut the chitchat.
What's going on
with you and Justin?
>> So everything
worked out really well.
He eventually made an effort to,
like, video chat with me,
and he's called me more
and stuff, so...
>> That's awesome.
>> Yeah.
Is Justin your boyfriend?
>> He hasn't asked the question,
but I'm moving there
in less than a month.
>> Wait, really?
>> What?
Are you serious?
>> Yeah.
I got my one way ticket
to California.
>> Oh, my God.
That's so cool.
>> He'll be my boyfriend
soon, I swear.
I got it in the bag.
[laughs]
>> Okay.
>> Hey, yeah, I think it's cool
that you're going for it.
>> Thank you guys so much
for helping me meet him.
>> That's what we're here for.
>> Yeah.
>> Bye.
>> Okay, bye.
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>> both: Yo.
>> Hey.
>> Just had a nice chat
with Leuh.
>> We hear she's moving out.
>> Yeah, it's pretty exciting.
>> I mean, you know she's, like,
moving to California
to be with you?
>> Yeah, I'm pretty jazzed
about it--not gonna lie.
>> You promise you're not gonna
mysteriously disappear
when she gets to California?
>> I promise you guys
I will be there.
You guys have my word.
>> All right, good.
>> I will pick her up and, uh,
you know, you'll get
an invitation to the wedding.
Don't worry.
>> All right.
>> All right.
>> You guys would be the first
"Catfish" wedding.
We're always hoping for it.
>> This wouldn't have happened
without you guys.
I really appreciate this.
>> All right, man, later.
>> See ya.
>> You guys know Karrueche?
She's here to help me
co-host this episode.
>> You're a little bit of
sunshine in here.
>> I met McKenna on Kik.
>> They're in love.
>> Who is this person?
>> [gasps]
>> This is where the [bleep]
hits the fan.
>> Why her?
Why couldn't it have been
someone else?
>> I've seen some interesting
stuff on the show, but this is,
like, borderline stalker.
>> [bleep]. Oh, God.
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