Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 5, Episode 4 - Brandon & McKenna - full transcript
Brandon loves McKenna, but failed attempts to connect has left him wondering if McKenna is for real. Nev teams with social media sensation Karrueche Tran to help Brandon uncover the shocking truth of his true love.
>> I mean, I don't know
what to say, man,
This is, like--I've seen some
interesting stuff on the show,
but this is, like,
borderline stalker.
>> [bleep].
Oh, God.
Why couldn't it have been
just someone else?
I wouldn't have been
this pissed.
Oh, God.
>> Oh, here she is.
Anyone seen Max?
Really?
He just called in
sick or something?
He's playing hooky?
Well, you can't make the show
without a co-host.
I say we walk the halls.
Someone's gotta do it, right?
Anybody?
That says, "Do not disturb,"
so I won't look there.
Do you want to co-host the show
with me?
Are you busy?
>> Yeah.
>> You guys are busy, sorry.
Oh, check it out.
Hello?
>> Uh, hello?
>> Do you want to co-host
the show with me?
>> Let's do it.
[laughs]
>> We found a co-host.
You guys know who this is?
Karrueche.
If you don't, you should.
She's a fun, beautiful
social media superstar
and big fan of "Catfish."
>> Oh, yeah.
I'm your new Max.
[laughs]
>> So you have a large
social media following.
>> Yeah.
>> So I have to imagine also
that you've had a very
unique experience
with profiles and, like--
>> Oh, definitely.
There's people who, like,
use my picture.
>> Whoa.
>> It is crazy that to this
day people still are getting
catfished and tricked.
So let's help them.
Come on.
>> All right, let's do this.
Here we go.
"Hopeful country boy
ready to make a move."
So I'm gonna adjust this.
"Dear Nev and Karrueche,
my name is Brandon,
and I'm an 18-year-old
construction worker, and I live
in Kalama, Washington."
Wow, cool.
"I'm writing to you guys
because I think I may have met
the perfect girl for me.
I met McKenna on Kik--"Keek"?
>> "Kick."
>> Do you say "Kick" or--
>> "Kick."
>> "Keek" is cuter.
>> "Keek."
>> "We started talking on Kik
for the first few weeks,
but then she got a phone
and started texting."
>> That's, like, a sign.
>> Maybe she didn't have
a cell phone yet.
I mean, that's unusual.
>> Okay.
>> All right, okay, let's just
keep reading, okay.
"I know it has only been a
short time, but there is
something so special
about this girl.
>> * Here we are together
>> "I really feel like I found
someone I could not only
build a relationship with,
but who is a best friend."
>> Aww.
>> "She is perfect and beautiful
in every aspect."
>> * Feeling good
* That's all I need to know *
>> "Not only is she
crazy good-looking,
but she understands me,
and even though we have
only known each other
for a couple months,
I can honestly say"--
>> That he loves her.
>> * 'Cause you light me up *
* Oh, you light me up
>> "I just built up the courage
to tell her I love her
last week"...
>> * How ya feeling tonight
>> "But I feel that
we have hit a wall.
I've asked her if she would talk
on the phone or video chat,
but she declines
every time I ask.
I think this is due to her
parents, who are really strict,
and they won't let her
talk to people online
that they don't know.
I can't see her in person
because she lives so far away.
I don't know what to do
at this point.
I love McKenna,
but I have seen the show,
and in the back of my mind,
I can't help but wonder
if everything McKenna
has told me is for real.
Please, can you help me?"
>> What's confusing is that they
started talking on Kik,
and then she got a phone?
>> Or maybe she was using,
like, an iPod?
>> How the heck do you have
an iPod, and you don't have
a phone?
>> Well, that's a good question.
Oh, look, here he is.
>> He's online.
He's got the Bieber hairdo
going on.
>> All right, well, let's see
if we can get him
on the horn.
>> Yeah, let's make sure
we look good, okay?
>> There he is.
>> Hey!
>> Oh, wow, so no--
no more long hair.
>> Yeah, I got short hair.
>> Well, I don't know if you
noticed Max got a facelift.
>> Oh.
>> Basically, Max ditched me.
He's on vacation.
I happened to get lucky
and bump into this cutie pie.
>> You found a good one.
>> Wait till you see her teeth
in person.
[both laughing]
>> So a couple months ago,
you're on Kik.
>> Yeah, it was late at night,
and I get this random message.
It's a girl named McKenna,
and we started talking.
The first thing
that really caught my eye
was how friendly she was.
She was easy to carry out
a conversation with,
and, you know, the first picture
I saw of her,
she was just an absolute angel.
You know, I found out
that she lived in Washington,
like, ten minutes away from me,
which was really cool.
>> Ten minutes?
>> Wait a second.
>> That's so close,
and you've never met her?
>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You said in your email
that she lives far away.
>> Well, about a month ago,
she moved to Florida.
She wouldn't tell me what city.
>> Does she have a Facebook
page?
>> She doesn't have a Facebook
page or any social media.
>> In the email, you said
that she got a phone.
>> Before she moved to Florida,
she was using an iPod to Kik me.
>> You were right.
>> And then when she moved--
'cause it was her friend's iPod.
She moved, so she had to give
that back, and then as soon as
she got to Florida, her parents
bought her a regular cell phone,
and she's been
texting me through that,
but I haven't been able to
call her, hear her voice.
>> Why, because her parents
are strict?
>> Yeah, like, her dad
shut off the multimedia settings
on her phone,
so she can't send pictures.
She can't video chat.
I can't even call her,
like, late at night 'cause
she'll wake up her parents,
stuff like that.
>> That doesn't look suspicious
to you at all?
>> Yeah, but nothing else
really raises a red flag.
Even the pictures
that she sent me,
they look like the same girl
so, you know,
a good 80% sure it's her.
>> So you love her, for sure?
>> Yeah.
We both love each other.
I'd like to eventually use my
money to have her fly back
with me and move in with me.
>> Wow.
>> That's a big commitment
to make to each other,
having never met,
that you're gonna sort of sweep
her away from her family
and bring her back to Washington
and move in together.
>> Yeah, yeah.
It's huge.
>> So look, sit tight and--
>> Let's find McKenna.
>> Let's find McKenna.
Thank you, yes, exactly.
See, I need--this is
why I need a co-host.
Let's find McKenna.
Let's find McKenna.
Come on, Brandon.
>> Come on, join us.
>> Let's find--
>> Nah, I'm not gonna--
>> Oh, man.
All right, we will
see you really soon.
>> Awesome.
>> Peace.
>> Bye.
>> Merp.
>> What was that?
>> Merp, that's my expression.
>> Oh, man.
>> Merp.
>> I'm just worried
that if I bring you around,
he's gonna forget about McKenna.
>> Is it the teeth?
>> Look at those teeth.
>> Sorry, Brandon.
Let's find McKenna.
Let's find McKenna.
>> Yeah, we're going to Kalama.
The question is,
will it be a calamity?
>> We are on the way
to Brandon's house?
To talk about McKenna.
I mean, if it was me,
I would want to, like,
call him and FaceTime,
so I would definitely need more.
Let's see what happens.
>> * You loved the times
* I sang
* Your loss was mine
*
>> Cool, big rig.
Sweet.
What's up? Hey, buddy.
>> Yep, nice to meet you.
>> Hi, Brandon.
Nice to meet you. Karrueche.
>> Hi, Karrueche.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> What was your name?
>> Brent.
>> Brent, nice to meet you.
>> All right.
>> Hi, how are you? I'm Mom.
>> Hi, Karrueche.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> Do you guys know about this
girl he's been texting with?
You talk about it at all?
>> I've talked to them
a little bit about it.
>> A little bit.
We have mixed feelings about it.
>> And previous relationships?
>> Yeah, he's had some
interest in--
>> He's been heartbroken over--
>> Oh, yeah, oh, yeah.
>> Pretty seriously, yeah, yeah.
>> Let's not do that.
>> Well, we definitely
need to talk with Brandon
a little bit more.
>> Sure.
>> Enjoy.
>> Let's do it.
>> See you guys later.
>> both: All right.
>> All right, my humble abode.
This is the--
>> Karrueche.
>> Gotta wipe your feet off
dance.
>> All right.
How you feeling?
>> I'm feeling pretty great,
actually; I'm excited.
>> This is you excited?
I just want to know
how to gauge.
>> Yeah, yeah, I probably don't
look excited, but I am.
>> So tell us about your,
like, previous relationships,
because we kind of brought it up
outside, and you seemed a bit,
like, tense, and you didn't want
to talk about it.
>> All right. Yeah, yeah.
>> So was there some, like,
heartbreak or some moment
that kind of happened?
>> Yeah, my ex, most recent one,
she went to school with me.
I really honestly,
truly loved this girl.
After school got finished,
she was gone for the whole week
at a friend's house.
She came home Friday with
a really good friend of mine,
and the first thing she says
when she walks in the door is,
she's dating my friend,
and that instantly just ruined
me, sent me into a depression.
I lost 60 pounds.
I mean, it messed me up.
>> Whoa.
>> Whoa.
>> That's intense, man.
>> That is very intense.
>> Yeah, it was very intense,
but McKenna was making
it better.
McKenna was kind of pulling
those feelings away from her.
I was finally starting
to be myself again,
coming out of the depression.
I thought, "Holy God,
this is, like, an angel."
Starting to gain my weight back.
I literally thought it was
an angel--I'm not gonna lie.
>> And what makes you say that?
>> 'Cause it--
>> Just like the conversation--
>> Conversations are just like
I'm talking to a girlfriend,
pretty much.
>> All right, so look, pursuing
this now with us puts all that
at risk because you might find
that she's not someone
that you want to be with.
>> I'm all-in right now.
>> So give us the afternoon,
see what we can find out.
>> Yeah, right on.
Thank you so much.
Hopefully hear from you soon.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> All right, we'll
see you later.
>> All right.
>> Well, that was interesting.
>> Definitely.
My big concern is that this is
the girl that helped him get
over his previous relationship
that was wrecked.
You know, he went through
that big depression,
so if this doesn't turn out
the way he wants it to,
he's gonna be devastated.
>> Come on, Nev.
Let's go.
>> Coffee Shop Laundromat--
that's so smart.
Laundromats where you can chill
and get coffee and, like,
hang out, not be bored.
>> I dare you to get in
one of them.
>> I don't think I can fit
in there.
>> I could fit in it.
Help.
Uh-oh, I think I'm doing it.
>> Yes, oh, my God.
All right, let me take a photo
for you.
Try to look--look cute.
>> I can't.
I'm getting a cramp.
>> Can you get out?
>> Ugh!
>> Like childbirth.
That was amazing.
>> Okay, let's do some research.
>> All right, so here's
what we got.
We got Brandon.
He's just coming out
of a heartbreaking relationship
but along comes McKenna.
>> He says they're in love.
>> The question is, is McKenna
the Washington state cutie pie
who moved to Florida
or someone very, very different?
>> Dun, dun, dun.
Let's do it.
Can you do this?
>> No.
>> Ha!
>> All right, here's the email
from Brandon.
"Here's all the information
I have on McKenna.
Her phone number--
I've also attached the photos
she sent me."
>> Well, what area code is 813?
>> Let's see what--
Let's look up this
phone number, okay,
and see if we get anything.
Searching.
>> This is making me so nervous
right now.
That's my suspense face.
>> Okay, unavailable, but it is
a Florida area code.
Oh, but wait a second.
It says it's a land line.
>> Wait, but how is that
possible?
>> Whenever you look up
a cell phone number,
and it comes up as a landline,
sometimes it's because it's
a phone number that someone
generated in an app
or Google Voice.
>> Like a Google number.
>> Yes.
I think what we need to do now
is run the photos.
Searching the first photo.
>> Oh, my God, I'm nervous.
[gasps]
>> No, no hit.
All right, searching image
number two--nothing.
>> Dude, you have got
to be kidding me.
Merp.
>> Okay, but check this out.
There was a time where I was
taking a lot of photographs.
Sometimes there's, like,
certain tags or where it was
taken or other--
>> Right.
>> So let's just see if we click
info--no camera information,
no lens information, hold on.
What the hell is that?
"Dewey Que Te Den"?
Is that the title
of the picture?
>> Looks like Spanish.
>> It does, right?
>> Should we Google that--
that phrase?
>> Yeah.
Oh, wait, there's a Facebook
page for this.
Is that--
>> [gasping]
>> Oh, boy.
>> [gasps]
>> I think--
>> Wait, that's her.
>> Is this her?
It looks like her.
Wait, let's go to this page.
Is this her page?
>> Look!
>> Oh, there it is.
There's the picture.
>> That is freaking her.
>> She's in a relationship.
>> Oh, my gosh.
>> Okay, so this is just some
random girl who lives in
a small town in Spain.
>> Brandon is not
gonna be happy, so--
>> Yikes.
Well, so now we know the girl
in the pictures is this girl.
Bottom line is,
whoever Brandon's talking
to is up to something.
>> I feel like it's somebody
in his hometown.
>> It could be somebody
he knows.
>> So what do we do?
>> So I think we need to talk
to Brandon, see what he
wants to do.
>> You're gonna break the news
to him, not me.
>> Okay.
All right, let's get over there.
>> We're gonna go break the news
to Brandon.
>> If I were him, I'm not sure
what I would want at this point.
Do I want to continue pursuing
this and find out something
I don't want to know?
>> Right.
>> Like, I could see him
getting pretty mad.
>> Yeah.
[doorbell rings]
>> Hey, guys, what's up?
>> Yo.
>> Brandon, happy Labor Day.
>> Come on in.
>> We in here?
>> Yeah, let's go in here.
Let's sit down.
All right, well, look.
We've got some things
to talk about.
We definitely
made some progress.
>> Cool.
>> Let's just get into
everything.
First thing we did was
a search for the phone number,
and this is a phone number
registered to Tampa, Florida,
but there are apps and websites
that let you create a phone
number and text through the app.
When you do that, you can pick
a phone number from anywhere.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> So I'm not saying
that's what's happening,
but that doesn't necessarily
mean that's where she is.
>> Oh, great.
>> But we were able to find
some information out.
If you open the photos,
there's an information button.
We clicked on that...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> And there's one line
of text here, and you can see,
it's, like, this very strange,
"Dewey Que Te Den."
>> It's, like, Spanish
or something,
but we Googled that.
>> And there is a Facebook page
that uses
the "Dewey Que Te Den" wording.
>> Hmm, okay.
>> And it seems to be,
like, some guy's page,
but when we scroll down,
there's a picture of this girl.
>> Huh.
>> And if we click on
the picture, it takes us
to this page.
>> So--I--
>> Yeah, well, so what it looks
like is that the girl in the
pictures that you've seen
is from a small town in Spain.
>> Hmm.
>> And in a lot of her pictures,
she kind of gives, like,
a photo credit to, I guess,
her boyfriend, Dewey Que Te Den,
who takes pictures.
>> Well, good for him.
*
>> * Love had a purpose
* Love was a road
>> That's really kind of crappy.
>> * And it runs
* On out
* Again and comes back around
>> This is a big deal.
What do we want to do
after this?
Because this definitely
changes things.
>> A lot, yeah.
>> Is this not being her picture
a deal breaker for you?
>> No, no.
>> So you would be willing
to continue to talk to her?
>> Yeah, oh, absolutely.
I still want to figure out
who it is.
>> Well, yeah.
>> I do too.
>> We do too.
>> Yeah, yeah.
I'm still confident that she is
who she says she is,
like, personally,
but not visually anymore,
obviously.
So what do you want to do next?
>> You want to just, like,
take a two-second break
and talk about it outside and,
like, see what we can think of?
All right, yeah.
>> You want to just go out here?
>> Sure, yeah.
>> Cool, yeah.
>> So, I mean, I feel like the
only real strategy left here is,
like, we call.
The question is, what do we say
once we get her on the phone?
>> I think we just go for it
and say, "Is this McKenna?"
>> All right, here goes nothing.
[phone line trilling]
[voicemail beeps]
Hi, my name is Nev, and I am
currently making an episode
of the TV show "Catfish."
I just wanted to ask
a couple questions.
Please, give me a call
back when you can.
Thanks.
So it is a text app.
>> Yeah.
>> So that means that, like,
she could set that number
up from anywhere, potentially.
>> Yeah.
>> Chances are, we may not hear
from her tonight, tomorrow.
It happens to be a holiday.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> I mean, did you have
any other thing
that you wanted to do?
>> Yeah, well, I was just gonna
hang out at the house.
We're having a barbecue,
so if you want to come,
you're more than welcome to.
>> Yeah.
We'll see you in a little bit.
>> Absolutely, sounds good.
>> You ready for a little
country barbecue?
Look at this spread.
It's a delicious burger.
[sighs]
>> both: Hi.
>> I'm Karrueche.
>> Nikki, nice to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> Ah!
[laughing]
>> Oh, my gosh.
>> Oh, it's gonna roll.
>> * Into, I looked into
>> Hey, what are you--
>> both: Nice!
>> Way to go.
>> What a man.
>> That was a pro move.
>> What a man.
>> Let's sit on
the stairs, yeah?
>> Cool.
>> I was trying to chat
with you guys a little bit,
get a feel for Brandon
and the situation he's in.
Do you guys know anything
about Brandon's, like,
recent love affair?
>> Little bit.
>> A little bit.
>> Hopefully, it's her.
If it's not, then he's gonna
come back, be heartbroken...
like usual.
>> So it's, like, a trend?
Sort of the thing that he does?
>> Yeah.
>> It's just kind of
the way Brandon is.
>> Right.
>> It seems like he kind of gets
his heart broken, so he tries to
fill it with someone else, like,
kind of moves on kind of thing.
>> Right.
>> I'm sure you have a lot
on your mind that's--
>> Yeah, yeah.
It really is a bummer
that, you know,
she's not the person
that's in the pictures,
you know, 'cause I kind of
based, you know, her personality
off of the pictures
that I thought was her,
and now that it's not, it sucks.
>> I've been in a situation
where I was hurt and crushed,
and I had to learn the hard way,
and I had to learn
to put myself first.
You know, I just--God forbid
you were to go
into a depression again.
>> No. Yeah.
No, it was bad.
>> Yeah.
>> It's an instant kind of
snap for me.
>> * I don't wanna be *
* Don't wanna be alone *
>> You know, after the whole
thing with my ex, it sucks that
this happened when you've
already been in a place
that was so terrible.
>> * I'm tired of feeling *
* Tired of feeling
>> Those memories flood back
into that deep emotion
that makes you hurt and angry
and all of that.
It's really tearing me apart.
>> Do you guys think you want
this to maybe somehow
work out for him?
>> Mm-hmm.
>> I hope it does.
Just in the fact that it seems
like he's been through a lot of
heartbreak, and if they are in
love, and it's real, you know,
I hope that whatever they're
both feeling is true, that it
works out for them.
I mean, I don't want to see him
heartbroken again, so--
>> I'm still so nervous
to know like--
>> The same, you know?
>> You know, what's really
going on behind.
>> Yeah, but no matter what,
I care about this person.
>> Regardless that it's not
the girl in the pictures,
I'm still rooting for you guys.
>> Yeah, well,
I appreciate that.
>> I'm a big supporter of love.
>> Yeah, yeah.
>> I can tell you care
about her, and we'll see.
>> Yeah, well.
>> So they leave me in the hotel
room to go pick up Karrueche,
but they left the monitor, so I
can still see what's going on.
>> Here?
>> Uh-uh.
>> Oh, maybe I should knock
first, right?
[knocking]
Good morning!
>> This is crazy.
>> Ha!
>> There she is from the front.
There she is from the back.
>> Your little bit of sunshine
is here.
>> All right.
Yesterday we didn't find
anything out about McKenna,
actually.
We just sort of found out--
>> That it's not her
in the picture.
>> Right, we gotta try
and find something.
>> Yeah.
>> The story started with Kik.
That's how she reached out
to him.
We got her username.
>> KennaLove$Pink.
>> Yeah.
>> So maybe there's, like,
an email address attached, or--
>> Something.
All right, so look.
This is a website that lets
you search, like, usernames.
>> On what, all, like,
social media sites?
>> I think it--yeah, it sort of
does, like, a social media-wide
username search.
So let's just see.
Okay, KennaLove$Pink.
Here we go.
>> Twitter?
>> We got a Twitter.
No Kik profile.
>> No.
>> Well, let's just see
what this is on Twitter.
Oh, look at this.
I recognize that girl.
Okay, here's a Twitter profile
with a picture of the fake--
>> Kenna?
>> McKenna from Spain,
whatever her real name is,
that's very active.
I mean, it's gotta be her.
>> Right.
>> Let's just see if we can
find, like, anything personal.
What?
>> Who's that?
>> I don't know.
>> That--That doesn't look
like Brandon to you?
>> Actually, it does.
>> And remember, the picture
we initially saw of him--
>> He had that long hair.
>> He had that hair.
>> Holy [bleep].
Okay, so hold on a second.
This just got really weird.
So this is a Snapchat story
back from November.
>> What the F?
>> Look what she said.
"She stole my bae from me,
but he doesn't look
that interested."
All right, so we need to figure
out who this girl is, because
whoever McKenna is, she's
probably friends with that girl
and clearly knows who Brandon is
and has for way longer than
they've been talking.
>> So she's been, like,
watching him.
>> Sort of stalking him.
>> Yeah.
We gotta show Brandon
this picture.
>> Let's go.
Snapchat drama.
>> Yeah.
I think it's a secret admirer.
>> That's kind of what it
feels like.
>> I think she's been plotting.
>> But I mean, this girl's been
after him for--
>> Some time.
>> Which is a little creepy.
>> Yeah.
[knocking]
>> Hey, guys.
>> Hey, bud.
>> How you doing? Come on in.
It's nice to see you guys.
>> Oh, man.
Have you talked at all
with McKenna?
>> Not at all, actually.
It kind of weirds me out.
>> I mean, we haven't heard
anything back from her either.
>> Nothing?
>> No.
>> Oh, my God.
>> But here's what
we did figure out.
>> Okay.
>> The one thing we kind of
forgot to do yesterday
because you had told us that she
wasn't on Kik anymore was,
we didn't look up her Kik
username, KennaLove$Pink.
>> Yeah.
>> So we just did a search
on this, like,
social media username website
for KennaLove$Pink.
Sure enough, there's a Twitter
profile that is, in fact,
KennaLove$Pink,
and this was the first tweet
that we found,
but when we went to the profile,
the first thing we saw
and noticed
was the profile picture.
>> It's the same.
>> [bleep], that's weird.
What?
Did you guys go through, like,
all of her tweets and stuff?
>> We did.
>> This is crazy.
>> Yeah, and it's
only gonna get weirder.
>> Oh, great.
What the [bleep]?
>> That's you, yeah?
>> Yeah, but that picture was
never anywhere on social media.
>> That's a--That's a
screen grab from Snapchat.
>> That's a--yeah.
>> Who's the girl?
>> That--That's my ex.
>> So she follows your ex
on Snapchat.
>> Oh, God.
What the hell?
>> So clearly, whoever you're
talking to is keeping tabs
on you and, like, are a part
of your community much more
than I think you even realize.
>> Uh, yeah.
That's weird.
>> Which might explain why they
won't talk to you on the phone.
>> It's really creepy.
Is that all you found
on this one?
>> Well, we didn't scroll down
past that 'cause we saw that.
We're like, "We gotta call
this guy and get over there,
because--"
>> Well, keep scrolling.
>> I mean, sure, we can look
to see if there's more.
>> I don't--I don't know.
It's just weird.
>> I mean, she's talking
about Harry Styles.
I mean, a lot of it's just
sort of girly st--
>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait.
Hold on, hold on.
Talking about Harry Styles?
Where does it say that?
>> Why?
>> Oh, God.
There's this girl that is
madly in love with me
since freshman year,
and she's obsessed
with Harry Styles--
obsessed.
>> Well, this girl seems to be
into the whole
Harry Styles thing.
>> Oh, God.
I wasn't interested in her
at all.
>> She lives in this area?
>> Yeah, her name is Kharece.
>> Would it make sense
that she would follow your ex
on Snapchat?
>> Yeah, mm-hmm.
>> Do they know each other?
>> They were best friends
before I started dating her.
When I started dating her,
because she was so obsessed
with me, it tore them apart.
>> But you're not interested?
>> Not at all.
>> Why is that?
>> Just--
>> She's just not your type?
>> No, not at all.
Not one bit.
>> When was the last time
you saw this girl, Kharece?
>> Last weekend.
>> Like, out?
>> No, she came over
to my house to say hi.
>> She came here?
>> Mm-hmm.
She randomly likes to drive
by my house all the time.
>> The hell?
>> This girl is literally
obsessed.
>> Oh, my gosh.
>> Well, I mean, I don't know
what to say, man.
This is, like--I've seen some
interesting stuff on the show,
but this is, like,
borderline stalker.
>> [bleep]. Oh, God.
>> I don't know what to do next.
>> Oh, God.
>> Oh, God.
Now I correlate
with all of her tweets
to the personality of this girl,
and it totally just--
>> Clicking.
>> Click.
Oh, God.
>> Well, so now we know that
McKenna is very likely Kharece.
>> No, it's not very likely.
That's her.
>> No, I know that girl
pretty well,
and she is a compulsive liar,
and she likes to do
these kind of things.
>> Well, I'm just saying
I don't think we should
make any decisions
right this second.
Why don't we just chill out
for a minute,
see how we feel about it?
>> Yeah, all right.
>> I can't believe she just,
like, comes over here sometimes.
>> Oh, my God.
Just so stupid.
Oh, my God.
You know Nikki
who came over for the barbecue?
>> My bad.
>> Now, I don't know if she knew
anything, but that's
Kharece's best friend.
>> Oh, my gosh.
>> Yeah, oh, my God.
>> Wow.
>> This is gonna get tricky.
>> And you and Kharece have
never had any kind of relations?
Previously, you guys
never dated or--
>> Never.
>> Hung out on a little extra
friends with benefits type of--
like, why?
This girl is in love with you.
>> She is.
Okay, all right.
>> What happened?
>> Fine, I was kind of
trying to dance around that,
but, yeah, there was some
friends with benefits
type of things here and there.
>> Wow.
>> What's up, guys?
>> We're just having a convo.
>> Nothing much.
>> One interesting thing
that Brandon has told me
is that him and Kharece
had some sort of relations.
>> Friends with benefits,
if you will.
>> Friends with benefits
thing going on.
>> Put it out there.
Just put it out there.
It doesn't even matter.
>> Wait a second.
What?
>> Yeah,
for four years previously.
>> Yeah, I know.
>> Hey, it's great.
Good for you but, like, you--
>> Yeah, well, it kind of
put me in the spot now.
>> So you and Kharece,
throughout high school,
at periods of time,
would hook up?
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, look.
There's obviously a lot
of history here.
So I mean, we could sit
around here and talk about it.
>> Or get [bleep] done.
>> Right, or we could
figure it out and--
>> Yeah, which I'm
totally game for.
>> All right, so here's what
I think we should do.
You send Kharece a text
and say something like,
"Hey, I'm here
with the 'Catfish' crew.
We could really, you know,
use your help.
I'd love if you could
come over and talk."
>> She may not even come over.
We'll wait and see.
[phone buzzing]
>> Oh.
>> Whoa, that was fast.
>> She said she'll be here
in 15, 20 minutes.
>> Okay, well,
you got 15 minutes
to sort of figure out
how you feel about all this.
>> Oh, God.
Why her?
Why couldn't it have
been just someone else?
I wouldn't have been
this pissed.
[sighing]
Oh, God.
>> Oh, well, here she is.
Hey, I'm Nev.
>> I'm Kharece.
>> Kharece, nice to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you too.
>> This is Karrueche.
>> Hi.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> You too.
>> You know essentially
kind of what's been
going on with Brandon.
He's talking to this girl.
We came here to help him
figure out who she was,
and the trail
sort of led to you...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> And from what we understand,
you made the McKenna profile.
>> Yes.
>> What?
Does Nikki know?
>> Yes.
>> Oh, nice, good.
That--well, that's great.
That's wonderful.
>> So at what point did you
make the Kik account?
>> I started to make
a Kik account because,
like, these people
from Yik Yak were talking to me,
and I didn't want to
give them my information,
so I just made
a random Kik account,
and then it was,
like, your contact,
Brandon, has a Kik account,
and then I just said, "Oh,
I'll talk to him and see
what he has to say
to this random person."
>> And then you went and made--
you made a TextMe account
and started texting me.
>> Yes.
>> Okay, cool.
>> So it got a little
out of hand.
>> Yeah, I did not think
it would go this far at all.
>> Yeah, well, it did.
You made some wrong judgment
there.
Yeah.
You could've just
texted me as Kharece.
>> Yeah, 'cause you'd
totally reply to me.
>> Well, you didn't try,
so you don't know.
>> I know, but I didn't lie
to you, other than the name
and the place I lived.
>> I know Kharece.
I went to school with Kharece
for four years,
and you are nothing like who
I was talking to, one bit.
>> But didn't you fall in love
with McKenna,
who happens to be me?
>> Yeah, but it's you.
>> So you really love Brandon?
>> Yes, I do.
>> What is it
that you love about Brandon?
>> It's a lot of things.
Um, I think he's, like,
super compassionate.
When he loves people,
he gives his whole being to it,
and not a lot of people do that,
and you don't give up on people
easily.
That's nice.
>> I appreciate that.
I do, and I'm sorry
it came down to this,
but you kind of
brought it upon yourself.
>> Okay.
>> You seem to be
taking this pretty well.
>> I don't, like,
cry, ever, so I mean,
I'm hurt inside right now,
but I'm just not showing it.
>> Usually, when we
have these situations,
it's introducing two strangers
to each other.
You guys are not strangers.
You have a very real
relationship in real life,
so the question is, like, well,
what happens to that now?
>> I just--I just want to
kind of think a little bit
by myself.
>> Yeah, all right,
well, good to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you too.
>> * Stories I've been told *
* Crying 'cause I know *
* It won't be too long *
>> Take the afternoon.
Think about everything.
>> Yeah, yeah.
See you guys soon.
>> All right,
we'll talk to you later.
>> Yeah.
Bull[bleep].
It's all [bleep] bull[bleep].
[bleep].
Oh, my God.
>> Good morning.
>> Good morning.
Who's this?
And having--
>> Just some random dude
in my--my bathroom.
>> Guys stay over last night?
>> [laughing]
>> [sighs]
All right, well, let's call
Kharece to see how she's feeling
and what she's up to.
[phone line trilling]
>> Hello?
>> Hey, Kharece.
>> Hi.
>> We thought it might be nice
to come talk to you
without Brandon.
>> Oh, Nikki that we met
from the barbecue the other day?
>> All right,
see you in a little bit.
>> Hi.
>> Hey.
>> Hey, everybody.
>> You know Nikki.
>> Yeah, hey.
>> Nice to meet you again.
>> Good to see you.
>> This is my friend Erica.
>> Hi, nice to meet you.
>> Hi, nice to meet you.
>> So both of you have known the
entire time about the situation?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah, pretty much.
>> Specifically that you were
talking to Brandon as McKenna?
>> Mm-hmm, yes.
>> I felt like I never lied
to him, other than my identity.
I meant every single thing
I said.
>> And her whole goal
was just to talk with him.
It's hard when you're so in love
with someone who consistently
invites you over but doesn't
say, "We're not dating."
>> So he never
directly told you--
>> No, he never said,
"I don't like you that way."
He never said that.
>> We would hear it through
his friends or something,
but he never did.
>> And Nikki's seen this.
When me and him are alone,
it's completely different than
when his friends are around.
>> He acts like he's a couple
with her.
>> And then when we go to, like,
a party, he never speaks to me.
And it's, like, are you,
like, embarrassed by me?
It makes me feel like crap.
>> So why are you
still pursuing him?
I mean, if he did want
to go out with you,
he probably would have made
that clear by now.
>> People tell me all the time,
but it's, like, every time
we see each other, it's like,
I'm like, "Today's the day
he's gonna commit
and say we're ready."
>> Yeah.
>> And I don't want to
give up on something that
would be great, eventually.
>> I get it a little bit more
now, obviously.
>> Yeah.
>> So I feel like we
should go over there.
We'll help back you up
on a lot of these things
so that you can effectively
communicate them.
>> That'll be helpful.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> Bye.
>> Bye.
>> * I've been caught *
* In the wire
* Since I turned
* Eight years old
>> What do you think right now,
just in terms of, like,
going over to see Brandon?
>> If I don't look at him
directly, I can do this.
I can say how I feel.
I don't want to say the wrong
thing that he might hate me for.
>> * Free me
>> [sighing]
>> This episode of
"Catfish: The TV Show"
continues now.
All right.
You got this?
>> I think so.
>> Be brave.
>> Okay, I'm trying.
>> All right, guys.
>> Oh, my God, okay.
>> Hey, guys, how's it going?
>> Hey, Brandon.
>> What's up, bud?
>> Come on in, come on in.
>> All right, well,
we all just came from talking.
From what I understand,
you guys have had something,
and it wasn't exactly
clear what it was.
>> Is there a reason why you
were never able to directly
voice your opinions to her?
>> I think it was because
I thought it was pretty clear,
just from what my friends have
told me that they said to her,
and so I thought she got it.
>> But it was hard
for me to believe it if,
like, you never said it,
so I've just held on to the hope
of us being together, like,
just hanging out, you know.
>> But also, even if you had
said a million times,
"I don't want to date you,"
but then called her
and been like, "Hey,
come over and hang out," like,
that's a mixed signal.
>> Knowing her feelings
towards you.
>> Right.
I want to make it clear.
I do not have those feelings
for you as you do for me,
and I know how you feel.
Trust me, I do.
>> [sighs]
Like, there's correlation
between me and McKenna.
>> Yeah, uh--
>> The only things that she
protected herself from were
things that would give away
her identity.
The person that you were
talking to was her.
>> I was her.
>> I just didn't see
the correlation whatsoever.
>> Right, but maybe you never
really thought about her that
way, but that really is her.
>> It was hard for her
when you guys weren't talking.
I mean--
>> Well, that's why I did it.
Like, that's why I started
talking to you as someone else,
because it's, like, although you
were talking to someone else,
it's like I was still
talking to you.
>> Okay.
Yeah, I can understand that.
>> And it's hard to,
like, think of it that way
when you know other things
about me.
I get that.
It makes sense.
>> I'm really sorry
that I made those mistakes
and hurt you that way.
>> I'm sorry I lied to you
about who I was.
I'm completely aware
of how you feel,
and it makes sense now 'cause
you've said it out loud,
but that doesn't mean
I don't want to see you,
and if you don't want
to see me, like, okay.
I can understand that,
but, like, we don't have
to hang out every single second
of every single day, but it's,
like, I just want to see you.
>> I have no problem
with us still being friends,
at the least.
>> Yeah.
>> If you guys are gonna
continue to be friends,
you know, you can't lead her on,
and you have to protect
your heart at the same time.
>> Hopefully, coming away from
this with a clear understanding
of where you guys stand with
each other, will only make it
that much easier for you guys
to get closer as friends.
[computer trilling]
Hello, Brandon.
>> What's up?
>> What's up, man?
>> Do you still
speak with Kharece?
>> She'll, like, text me
or Snapchat me casually,
but there's nothing
to that degree.
>> Are you dating anybody now
or seeing anyone?
>> No, probably won't
till hunting season's over.
>> What are you hunting?
>> Ducks.
>> You're looking for ducks,
not [bleep].
>> Yeah.
>> All right, later, Brandon.
>> Bye-bye.
>> Hey!
>> Hi, Kharece.
>> Hi.
>> So how are you feeling
after the whole crazy situation
with Brandon?
>> I--I don't know.
I mean, this is pathetic,
but sometimes I'll, like,
wake up in the middle of the
night just, like, crying
'cause I can't see him ever.
He's far away.
>> Aww.
>> Do you think there's ever
a chance that you and Brandon
could end up together?
>> I don't know.
I think he misses me
more than he lets on,
but maybe that's just because
I want him to miss me.
>> Don't worry.
You're so cute.
You'll find somebody.
>> Well, thanks.
>> All right, well,
it was good hearing from you.
I'm sure Prince Charming
will come around soon enough.
>> Thank you, bye.
>> Bye, guys.
>> Bye.
>> "My girlfriend asked me to
move to another state."
>> He's never heard her voice!
>> She's the first person I ever
said "I love you" to.
>> It's probably a guy.
>> It's a guy.
[both gasp]
>> This is bad.
>> They're messing with Jaylin.
He needs to know the truth.
>> Uh-oh, they could be
coming out.
>> I've missed out on so much
the past three years.
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what to say, man,
This is, like--I've seen some
interesting stuff on the show,
but this is, like,
borderline stalker.
>> [bleep].
Oh, God.
Why couldn't it have been
just someone else?
I wouldn't have been
this pissed.
Oh, God.
>> Oh, here she is.
Anyone seen Max?
Really?
He just called in
sick or something?
He's playing hooky?
Well, you can't make the show
without a co-host.
I say we walk the halls.
Someone's gotta do it, right?
Anybody?
That says, "Do not disturb,"
so I won't look there.
Do you want to co-host the show
with me?
Are you busy?
>> Yeah.
>> You guys are busy, sorry.
Oh, check it out.
Hello?
>> Uh, hello?
>> Do you want to co-host
the show with me?
>> Let's do it.
[laughs]
>> We found a co-host.
You guys know who this is?
Karrueche.
If you don't, you should.
She's a fun, beautiful
social media superstar
and big fan of "Catfish."
>> Oh, yeah.
I'm your new Max.
[laughs]
>> So you have a large
social media following.
>> Yeah.
>> So I have to imagine also
that you've had a very
unique experience
with profiles and, like--
>> Oh, definitely.
There's people who, like,
use my picture.
>> Whoa.
>> It is crazy that to this
day people still are getting
catfished and tricked.
So let's help them.
Come on.
>> All right, let's do this.
Here we go.
"Hopeful country boy
ready to make a move."
So I'm gonna adjust this.
"Dear Nev and Karrueche,
my name is Brandon,
and I'm an 18-year-old
construction worker, and I live
in Kalama, Washington."
Wow, cool.
"I'm writing to you guys
because I think I may have met
the perfect girl for me.
I met McKenna on Kik--"Keek"?
>> "Kick."
>> Do you say "Kick" or--
>> "Kick."
>> "Keek" is cuter.
>> "Keek."
>> "We started talking on Kik
for the first few weeks,
but then she got a phone
and started texting."
>> That's, like, a sign.
>> Maybe she didn't have
a cell phone yet.
I mean, that's unusual.
>> Okay.
>> All right, okay, let's just
keep reading, okay.
"I know it has only been a
short time, but there is
something so special
about this girl.
>> * Here we are together
>> "I really feel like I found
someone I could not only
build a relationship with,
but who is a best friend."
>> Aww.
>> "She is perfect and beautiful
in every aspect."
>> * Feeling good
* That's all I need to know *
>> "Not only is she
crazy good-looking,
but she understands me,
and even though we have
only known each other
for a couple months,
I can honestly say"--
>> That he loves her.
>> * 'Cause you light me up *
* Oh, you light me up
>> "I just built up the courage
to tell her I love her
last week"...
>> * How ya feeling tonight
>> "But I feel that
we have hit a wall.
I've asked her if she would talk
on the phone or video chat,
but she declines
every time I ask.
I think this is due to her
parents, who are really strict,
and they won't let her
talk to people online
that they don't know.
I can't see her in person
because she lives so far away.
I don't know what to do
at this point.
I love McKenna,
but I have seen the show,
and in the back of my mind,
I can't help but wonder
if everything McKenna
has told me is for real.
Please, can you help me?"
>> What's confusing is that they
started talking on Kik,
and then she got a phone?
>> Or maybe she was using,
like, an iPod?
>> How the heck do you have
an iPod, and you don't have
a phone?
>> Well, that's a good question.
Oh, look, here he is.
>> He's online.
He's got the Bieber hairdo
going on.
>> All right, well, let's see
if we can get him
on the horn.
>> Yeah, let's make sure
we look good, okay?
>> There he is.
>> Hey!
>> Oh, wow, so no--
no more long hair.
>> Yeah, I got short hair.
>> Well, I don't know if you
noticed Max got a facelift.
>> Oh.
>> Basically, Max ditched me.
He's on vacation.
I happened to get lucky
and bump into this cutie pie.
>> You found a good one.
>> Wait till you see her teeth
in person.
[both laughing]
>> So a couple months ago,
you're on Kik.
>> Yeah, it was late at night,
and I get this random message.
It's a girl named McKenna,
and we started talking.
The first thing
that really caught my eye
was how friendly she was.
She was easy to carry out
a conversation with,
and, you know, the first picture
I saw of her,
she was just an absolute angel.
You know, I found out
that she lived in Washington,
like, ten minutes away from me,
which was really cool.
>> Ten minutes?
>> Wait a second.
>> That's so close,
and you've never met her?
>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You said in your email
that she lives far away.
>> Well, about a month ago,
she moved to Florida.
She wouldn't tell me what city.
>> Does she have a Facebook
page?
>> She doesn't have a Facebook
page or any social media.
>> In the email, you said
that she got a phone.
>> Before she moved to Florida,
she was using an iPod to Kik me.
>> You were right.
>> And then when she moved--
'cause it was her friend's iPod.
She moved, so she had to give
that back, and then as soon as
she got to Florida, her parents
bought her a regular cell phone,
and she's been
texting me through that,
but I haven't been able to
call her, hear her voice.
>> Why, because her parents
are strict?
>> Yeah, like, her dad
shut off the multimedia settings
on her phone,
so she can't send pictures.
She can't video chat.
I can't even call her,
like, late at night 'cause
she'll wake up her parents,
stuff like that.
>> That doesn't look suspicious
to you at all?
>> Yeah, but nothing else
really raises a red flag.
Even the pictures
that she sent me,
they look like the same girl
so, you know,
a good 80% sure it's her.
>> So you love her, for sure?
>> Yeah.
We both love each other.
I'd like to eventually use my
money to have her fly back
with me and move in with me.
>> Wow.
>> That's a big commitment
to make to each other,
having never met,
that you're gonna sort of sweep
her away from her family
and bring her back to Washington
and move in together.
>> Yeah, yeah.
It's huge.
>> So look, sit tight and--
>> Let's find McKenna.
>> Let's find McKenna.
Thank you, yes, exactly.
See, I need--this is
why I need a co-host.
Let's find McKenna.
Let's find McKenna.
Come on, Brandon.
>> Come on, join us.
>> Let's find--
>> Nah, I'm not gonna--
>> Oh, man.
All right, we will
see you really soon.
>> Awesome.
>> Peace.
>> Bye.
>> Merp.
>> What was that?
>> Merp, that's my expression.
>> Oh, man.
>> Merp.
>> I'm just worried
that if I bring you around,
he's gonna forget about McKenna.
>> Is it the teeth?
>> Look at those teeth.
>> Sorry, Brandon.
Let's find McKenna.
Let's find McKenna.
>> Yeah, we're going to Kalama.
The question is,
will it be a calamity?
>> We are on the way
to Brandon's house?
To talk about McKenna.
I mean, if it was me,
I would want to, like,
call him and FaceTime,
so I would definitely need more.
Let's see what happens.
>> * You loved the times
* I sang
* Your loss was mine
*
>> Cool, big rig.
Sweet.
What's up? Hey, buddy.
>> Yep, nice to meet you.
>> Hi, Brandon.
Nice to meet you. Karrueche.
>> Hi, Karrueche.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> What was your name?
>> Brent.
>> Brent, nice to meet you.
>> All right.
>> Hi, how are you? I'm Mom.
>> Hi, Karrueche.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> Do you guys know about this
girl he's been texting with?
You talk about it at all?
>> I've talked to them
a little bit about it.
>> A little bit.
We have mixed feelings about it.
>> And previous relationships?
>> Yeah, he's had some
interest in--
>> He's been heartbroken over--
>> Oh, yeah, oh, yeah.
>> Pretty seriously, yeah, yeah.
>> Let's not do that.
>> Well, we definitely
need to talk with Brandon
a little bit more.
>> Sure.
>> Enjoy.
>> Let's do it.
>> See you guys later.
>> both: All right.
>> All right, my humble abode.
This is the--
>> Karrueche.
>> Gotta wipe your feet off
dance.
>> All right.
How you feeling?
>> I'm feeling pretty great,
actually; I'm excited.
>> This is you excited?
I just want to know
how to gauge.
>> Yeah, yeah, I probably don't
look excited, but I am.
>> So tell us about your,
like, previous relationships,
because we kind of brought it up
outside, and you seemed a bit,
like, tense, and you didn't want
to talk about it.
>> All right. Yeah, yeah.
>> So was there some, like,
heartbreak or some moment
that kind of happened?
>> Yeah, my ex, most recent one,
she went to school with me.
I really honestly,
truly loved this girl.
After school got finished,
she was gone for the whole week
at a friend's house.
She came home Friday with
a really good friend of mine,
and the first thing she says
when she walks in the door is,
she's dating my friend,
and that instantly just ruined
me, sent me into a depression.
I lost 60 pounds.
I mean, it messed me up.
>> Whoa.
>> Whoa.
>> That's intense, man.
>> That is very intense.
>> Yeah, it was very intense,
but McKenna was making
it better.
McKenna was kind of pulling
those feelings away from her.
I was finally starting
to be myself again,
coming out of the depression.
I thought, "Holy God,
this is, like, an angel."
Starting to gain my weight back.
I literally thought it was
an angel--I'm not gonna lie.
>> And what makes you say that?
>> 'Cause it--
>> Just like the conversation--
>> Conversations are just like
I'm talking to a girlfriend,
pretty much.
>> All right, so look, pursuing
this now with us puts all that
at risk because you might find
that she's not someone
that you want to be with.
>> I'm all-in right now.
>> So give us the afternoon,
see what we can find out.
>> Yeah, right on.
Thank you so much.
Hopefully hear from you soon.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> All right, we'll
see you later.
>> All right.
>> Well, that was interesting.
>> Definitely.
My big concern is that this is
the girl that helped him get
over his previous relationship
that was wrecked.
You know, he went through
that big depression,
so if this doesn't turn out
the way he wants it to,
he's gonna be devastated.
>> Come on, Nev.
Let's go.
>> Coffee Shop Laundromat--
that's so smart.
Laundromats where you can chill
and get coffee and, like,
hang out, not be bored.
>> I dare you to get in
one of them.
>> I don't think I can fit
in there.
>> I could fit in it.
Help.
Uh-oh, I think I'm doing it.
>> Yes, oh, my God.
All right, let me take a photo
for you.
Try to look--look cute.
>> I can't.
I'm getting a cramp.
>> Can you get out?
>> Ugh!
>> Like childbirth.
That was amazing.
>> Okay, let's do some research.
>> All right, so here's
what we got.
We got Brandon.
He's just coming out
of a heartbreaking relationship
but along comes McKenna.
>> He says they're in love.
>> The question is, is McKenna
the Washington state cutie pie
who moved to Florida
or someone very, very different?
>> Dun, dun, dun.
Let's do it.
Can you do this?
>> No.
>> Ha!
>> All right, here's the email
from Brandon.
"Here's all the information
I have on McKenna.
Her phone number--
I've also attached the photos
she sent me."
>> Well, what area code is 813?
>> Let's see what--
Let's look up this
phone number, okay,
and see if we get anything.
Searching.
>> This is making me so nervous
right now.
That's my suspense face.
>> Okay, unavailable, but it is
a Florida area code.
Oh, but wait a second.
It says it's a land line.
>> Wait, but how is that
possible?
>> Whenever you look up
a cell phone number,
and it comes up as a landline,
sometimes it's because it's
a phone number that someone
generated in an app
or Google Voice.
>> Like a Google number.
>> Yes.
I think what we need to do now
is run the photos.
Searching the first photo.
>> Oh, my God, I'm nervous.
[gasps]
>> No, no hit.
All right, searching image
number two--nothing.
>> Dude, you have got
to be kidding me.
Merp.
>> Okay, but check this out.
There was a time where I was
taking a lot of photographs.
Sometimes there's, like,
certain tags or where it was
taken or other--
>> Right.
>> So let's just see if we click
info--no camera information,
no lens information, hold on.
What the hell is that?
"Dewey Que Te Den"?
Is that the title
of the picture?
>> Looks like Spanish.
>> It does, right?
>> Should we Google that--
that phrase?
>> Yeah.
Oh, wait, there's a Facebook
page for this.
Is that--
>> [gasping]
>> Oh, boy.
>> [gasps]
>> I think--
>> Wait, that's her.
>> Is this her?
It looks like her.
Wait, let's go to this page.
Is this her page?
>> Look!
>> Oh, there it is.
There's the picture.
>> That is freaking her.
>> She's in a relationship.
>> Oh, my gosh.
>> Okay, so this is just some
random girl who lives in
a small town in Spain.
>> Brandon is not
gonna be happy, so--
>> Yikes.
Well, so now we know the girl
in the pictures is this girl.
Bottom line is,
whoever Brandon's talking
to is up to something.
>> I feel like it's somebody
in his hometown.
>> It could be somebody
he knows.
>> So what do we do?
>> So I think we need to talk
to Brandon, see what he
wants to do.
>> You're gonna break the news
to him, not me.
>> Okay.
All right, let's get over there.
>> We're gonna go break the news
to Brandon.
>> If I were him, I'm not sure
what I would want at this point.
Do I want to continue pursuing
this and find out something
I don't want to know?
>> Right.
>> Like, I could see him
getting pretty mad.
>> Yeah.
[doorbell rings]
>> Hey, guys, what's up?
>> Yo.
>> Brandon, happy Labor Day.
>> Come on in.
>> We in here?
>> Yeah, let's go in here.
Let's sit down.
All right, well, look.
We've got some things
to talk about.
We definitely
made some progress.
>> Cool.
>> Let's just get into
everything.
First thing we did was
a search for the phone number,
and this is a phone number
registered to Tampa, Florida,
but there are apps and websites
that let you create a phone
number and text through the app.
When you do that, you can pick
a phone number from anywhere.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> So I'm not saying
that's what's happening,
but that doesn't necessarily
mean that's where she is.
>> Oh, great.
>> But we were able to find
some information out.
If you open the photos,
there's an information button.
We clicked on that...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> And there's one line
of text here, and you can see,
it's, like, this very strange,
"Dewey Que Te Den."
>> It's, like, Spanish
or something,
but we Googled that.
>> And there is a Facebook page
that uses
the "Dewey Que Te Den" wording.
>> Hmm, okay.
>> And it seems to be,
like, some guy's page,
but when we scroll down,
there's a picture of this girl.
>> Huh.
>> And if we click on
the picture, it takes us
to this page.
>> So--I--
>> Yeah, well, so what it looks
like is that the girl in the
pictures that you've seen
is from a small town in Spain.
>> Hmm.
>> And in a lot of her pictures,
she kind of gives, like,
a photo credit to, I guess,
her boyfriend, Dewey Que Te Den,
who takes pictures.
>> Well, good for him.
*
>> * Love had a purpose
* Love was a road
>> That's really kind of crappy.
>> * And it runs
* On out
* Again and comes back around
>> This is a big deal.
What do we want to do
after this?
Because this definitely
changes things.
>> A lot, yeah.
>> Is this not being her picture
a deal breaker for you?
>> No, no.
>> So you would be willing
to continue to talk to her?
>> Yeah, oh, absolutely.
I still want to figure out
who it is.
>> Well, yeah.
>> I do too.
>> We do too.
>> Yeah, yeah.
I'm still confident that she is
who she says she is,
like, personally,
but not visually anymore,
obviously.
So what do you want to do next?
>> You want to just, like,
take a two-second break
and talk about it outside and,
like, see what we can think of?
All right, yeah.
>> You want to just go out here?
>> Sure, yeah.
>> Cool, yeah.
>> So, I mean, I feel like the
only real strategy left here is,
like, we call.
The question is, what do we say
once we get her on the phone?
>> I think we just go for it
and say, "Is this McKenna?"
>> All right, here goes nothing.
[phone line trilling]
[voicemail beeps]
Hi, my name is Nev, and I am
currently making an episode
of the TV show "Catfish."
I just wanted to ask
a couple questions.
Please, give me a call
back when you can.
Thanks.
So it is a text app.
>> Yeah.
>> So that means that, like,
she could set that number
up from anywhere, potentially.
>> Yeah.
>> Chances are, we may not hear
from her tonight, tomorrow.
It happens to be a holiday.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> I mean, did you have
any other thing
that you wanted to do?
>> Yeah, well, I was just gonna
hang out at the house.
We're having a barbecue,
so if you want to come,
you're more than welcome to.
>> Yeah.
We'll see you in a little bit.
>> Absolutely, sounds good.
>> You ready for a little
country barbecue?
Look at this spread.
It's a delicious burger.
[sighs]
>> both: Hi.
>> I'm Karrueche.
>> Nikki, nice to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> Ah!
[laughing]
>> Oh, my gosh.
>> Oh, it's gonna roll.
>> * Into, I looked into
>> Hey, what are you--
>> both: Nice!
>> Way to go.
>> What a man.
>> That was a pro move.
>> What a man.
>> Let's sit on
the stairs, yeah?
>> Cool.
>> I was trying to chat
with you guys a little bit,
get a feel for Brandon
and the situation he's in.
Do you guys know anything
about Brandon's, like,
recent love affair?
>> Little bit.
>> A little bit.
>> Hopefully, it's her.
If it's not, then he's gonna
come back, be heartbroken...
like usual.
>> So it's, like, a trend?
Sort of the thing that he does?
>> Yeah.
>> It's just kind of
the way Brandon is.
>> Right.
>> It seems like he kind of gets
his heart broken, so he tries to
fill it with someone else, like,
kind of moves on kind of thing.
>> Right.
>> I'm sure you have a lot
on your mind that's--
>> Yeah, yeah.
It really is a bummer
that, you know,
she's not the person
that's in the pictures,
you know, 'cause I kind of
based, you know, her personality
off of the pictures
that I thought was her,
and now that it's not, it sucks.
>> I've been in a situation
where I was hurt and crushed,
and I had to learn the hard way,
and I had to learn
to put myself first.
You know, I just--God forbid
you were to go
into a depression again.
>> No. Yeah.
No, it was bad.
>> Yeah.
>> It's an instant kind of
snap for me.
>> * I don't wanna be *
* Don't wanna be alone *
>> You know, after the whole
thing with my ex, it sucks that
this happened when you've
already been in a place
that was so terrible.
>> * I'm tired of feeling *
* Tired of feeling
>> Those memories flood back
into that deep emotion
that makes you hurt and angry
and all of that.
It's really tearing me apart.
>> Do you guys think you want
this to maybe somehow
work out for him?
>> Mm-hmm.
>> I hope it does.
Just in the fact that it seems
like he's been through a lot of
heartbreak, and if they are in
love, and it's real, you know,
I hope that whatever they're
both feeling is true, that it
works out for them.
I mean, I don't want to see him
heartbroken again, so--
>> I'm still so nervous
to know like--
>> The same, you know?
>> You know, what's really
going on behind.
>> Yeah, but no matter what,
I care about this person.
>> Regardless that it's not
the girl in the pictures,
I'm still rooting for you guys.
>> Yeah, well,
I appreciate that.
>> I'm a big supporter of love.
>> Yeah, yeah.
>> I can tell you care
about her, and we'll see.
>> Yeah, well.
>> So they leave me in the hotel
room to go pick up Karrueche,
but they left the monitor, so I
can still see what's going on.
>> Here?
>> Uh-uh.
>> Oh, maybe I should knock
first, right?
[knocking]
Good morning!
>> This is crazy.
>> Ha!
>> There she is from the front.
There she is from the back.
>> Your little bit of sunshine
is here.
>> All right.
Yesterday we didn't find
anything out about McKenna,
actually.
We just sort of found out--
>> That it's not her
in the picture.
>> Right, we gotta try
and find something.
>> Yeah.
>> The story started with Kik.
That's how she reached out
to him.
We got her username.
>> KennaLove$Pink.
>> Yeah.
>> So maybe there's, like,
an email address attached, or--
>> Something.
All right, so look.
This is a website that lets
you search, like, usernames.
>> On what, all, like,
social media sites?
>> I think it--yeah, it sort of
does, like, a social media-wide
username search.
So let's just see.
Okay, KennaLove$Pink.
Here we go.
>> Twitter?
>> We got a Twitter.
No Kik profile.
>> No.
>> Well, let's just see
what this is on Twitter.
Oh, look at this.
I recognize that girl.
Okay, here's a Twitter profile
with a picture of the fake--
>> Kenna?
>> McKenna from Spain,
whatever her real name is,
that's very active.
I mean, it's gotta be her.
>> Right.
>> Let's just see if we can
find, like, anything personal.
What?
>> Who's that?
>> I don't know.
>> That--That doesn't look
like Brandon to you?
>> Actually, it does.
>> And remember, the picture
we initially saw of him--
>> He had that long hair.
>> He had that hair.
>> Holy [bleep].
Okay, so hold on a second.
This just got really weird.
So this is a Snapchat story
back from November.
>> What the F?
>> Look what she said.
"She stole my bae from me,
but he doesn't look
that interested."
All right, so we need to figure
out who this girl is, because
whoever McKenna is, she's
probably friends with that girl
and clearly knows who Brandon is
and has for way longer than
they've been talking.
>> So she's been, like,
watching him.
>> Sort of stalking him.
>> Yeah.
We gotta show Brandon
this picture.
>> Let's go.
Snapchat drama.
>> Yeah.
I think it's a secret admirer.
>> That's kind of what it
feels like.
>> I think she's been plotting.
>> But I mean, this girl's been
after him for--
>> Some time.
>> Which is a little creepy.
>> Yeah.
[knocking]
>> Hey, guys.
>> Hey, bud.
>> How you doing? Come on in.
It's nice to see you guys.
>> Oh, man.
Have you talked at all
with McKenna?
>> Not at all, actually.
It kind of weirds me out.
>> I mean, we haven't heard
anything back from her either.
>> Nothing?
>> No.
>> Oh, my God.
>> But here's what
we did figure out.
>> Okay.
>> The one thing we kind of
forgot to do yesterday
because you had told us that she
wasn't on Kik anymore was,
we didn't look up her Kik
username, KennaLove$Pink.
>> Yeah.
>> So we just did a search
on this, like,
social media username website
for KennaLove$Pink.
Sure enough, there's a Twitter
profile that is, in fact,
KennaLove$Pink,
and this was the first tweet
that we found,
but when we went to the profile,
the first thing we saw
and noticed
was the profile picture.
>> It's the same.
>> [bleep], that's weird.
What?
Did you guys go through, like,
all of her tweets and stuff?
>> We did.
>> This is crazy.
>> Yeah, and it's
only gonna get weirder.
>> Oh, great.
What the [bleep]?
>> That's you, yeah?
>> Yeah, but that picture was
never anywhere on social media.
>> That's a--That's a
screen grab from Snapchat.
>> That's a--yeah.
>> Who's the girl?
>> That--That's my ex.
>> So she follows your ex
on Snapchat.
>> Oh, God.
What the hell?
>> So clearly, whoever you're
talking to is keeping tabs
on you and, like, are a part
of your community much more
than I think you even realize.
>> Uh, yeah.
That's weird.
>> Which might explain why they
won't talk to you on the phone.
>> It's really creepy.
Is that all you found
on this one?
>> Well, we didn't scroll down
past that 'cause we saw that.
We're like, "We gotta call
this guy and get over there,
because--"
>> Well, keep scrolling.
>> I mean, sure, we can look
to see if there's more.
>> I don't--I don't know.
It's just weird.
>> I mean, she's talking
about Harry Styles.
I mean, a lot of it's just
sort of girly st--
>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait.
Hold on, hold on.
Talking about Harry Styles?
Where does it say that?
>> Why?
>> Oh, God.
There's this girl that is
madly in love with me
since freshman year,
and she's obsessed
with Harry Styles--
obsessed.
>> Well, this girl seems to be
into the whole
Harry Styles thing.
>> Oh, God.
I wasn't interested in her
at all.
>> She lives in this area?
>> Yeah, her name is Kharece.
>> Would it make sense
that she would follow your ex
on Snapchat?
>> Yeah, mm-hmm.
>> Do they know each other?
>> They were best friends
before I started dating her.
When I started dating her,
because she was so obsessed
with me, it tore them apart.
>> But you're not interested?
>> Not at all.
>> Why is that?
>> Just--
>> She's just not your type?
>> No, not at all.
Not one bit.
>> When was the last time
you saw this girl, Kharece?
>> Last weekend.
>> Like, out?
>> No, she came over
to my house to say hi.
>> She came here?
>> Mm-hmm.
She randomly likes to drive
by my house all the time.
>> The hell?
>> This girl is literally
obsessed.
>> Oh, my gosh.
>> Well, I mean, I don't know
what to say, man.
This is, like--I've seen some
interesting stuff on the show,
but this is, like,
borderline stalker.
>> [bleep]. Oh, God.
>> I don't know what to do next.
>> Oh, God.
>> Oh, God.
Now I correlate
with all of her tweets
to the personality of this girl,
and it totally just--
>> Clicking.
>> Click.
Oh, God.
>> Well, so now we know that
McKenna is very likely Kharece.
>> No, it's not very likely.
That's her.
>> No, I know that girl
pretty well,
and she is a compulsive liar,
and she likes to do
these kind of things.
>> Well, I'm just saying
I don't think we should
make any decisions
right this second.
Why don't we just chill out
for a minute,
see how we feel about it?
>> Yeah, all right.
>> I can't believe she just,
like, comes over here sometimes.
>> Oh, my God.
Just so stupid.
Oh, my God.
You know Nikki
who came over for the barbecue?
>> My bad.
>> Now, I don't know if she knew
anything, but that's
Kharece's best friend.
>> Oh, my gosh.
>> Yeah, oh, my God.
>> Wow.
>> This is gonna get tricky.
>> And you and Kharece have
never had any kind of relations?
Previously, you guys
never dated or--
>> Never.
>> Hung out on a little extra
friends with benefits type of--
like, why?
This girl is in love with you.
>> She is.
Okay, all right.
>> What happened?
>> Fine, I was kind of
trying to dance around that,
but, yeah, there was some
friends with benefits
type of things here and there.
>> Wow.
>> What's up, guys?
>> We're just having a convo.
>> Nothing much.
>> One interesting thing
that Brandon has told me
is that him and Kharece
had some sort of relations.
>> Friends with benefits,
if you will.
>> Friends with benefits
thing going on.
>> Put it out there.
Just put it out there.
It doesn't even matter.
>> Wait a second.
What?
>> Yeah,
for four years previously.
>> Yeah, I know.
>> Hey, it's great.
Good for you but, like, you--
>> Yeah, well, it kind of
put me in the spot now.
>> So you and Kharece,
throughout high school,
at periods of time,
would hook up?
>> Yeah.
>> I mean, look.
There's obviously a lot
of history here.
So I mean, we could sit
around here and talk about it.
>> Or get [bleep] done.
>> Right, or we could
figure it out and--
>> Yeah, which I'm
totally game for.
>> All right, so here's what
I think we should do.
You send Kharece a text
and say something like,
"Hey, I'm here
with the 'Catfish' crew.
We could really, you know,
use your help.
I'd love if you could
come over and talk."
>> She may not even come over.
We'll wait and see.
[phone buzzing]
>> Oh.
>> Whoa, that was fast.
>> She said she'll be here
in 15, 20 minutes.
>> Okay, well,
you got 15 minutes
to sort of figure out
how you feel about all this.
>> Oh, God.
Why her?
Why couldn't it have
been just someone else?
I wouldn't have been
this pissed.
[sighing]
Oh, God.
>> Oh, well, here she is.
Hey, I'm Nev.
>> I'm Kharece.
>> Kharece, nice to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you too.
>> This is Karrueche.
>> Hi.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> You too.
>> You know essentially
kind of what's been
going on with Brandon.
He's talking to this girl.
We came here to help him
figure out who she was,
and the trail
sort of led to you...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> And from what we understand,
you made the McKenna profile.
>> Yes.
>> What?
Does Nikki know?
>> Yes.
>> Oh, nice, good.
That--well, that's great.
That's wonderful.
>> So at what point did you
make the Kik account?
>> I started to make
a Kik account because,
like, these people
from Yik Yak were talking to me,
and I didn't want to
give them my information,
so I just made
a random Kik account,
and then it was,
like, your contact,
Brandon, has a Kik account,
and then I just said, "Oh,
I'll talk to him and see
what he has to say
to this random person."
>> And then you went and made--
you made a TextMe account
and started texting me.
>> Yes.
>> Okay, cool.
>> So it got a little
out of hand.
>> Yeah, I did not think
it would go this far at all.
>> Yeah, well, it did.
You made some wrong judgment
there.
Yeah.
You could've just
texted me as Kharece.
>> Yeah, 'cause you'd
totally reply to me.
>> Well, you didn't try,
so you don't know.
>> I know, but I didn't lie
to you, other than the name
and the place I lived.
>> I know Kharece.
I went to school with Kharece
for four years,
and you are nothing like who
I was talking to, one bit.
>> But didn't you fall in love
with McKenna,
who happens to be me?
>> Yeah, but it's you.
>> So you really love Brandon?
>> Yes, I do.
>> What is it
that you love about Brandon?
>> It's a lot of things.
Um, I think he's, like,
super compassionate.
When he loves people,
he gives his whole being to it,
and not a lot of people do that,
and you don't give up on people
easily.
That's nice.
>> I appreciate that.
I do, and I'm sorry
it came down to this,
but you kind of
brought it upon yourself.
>> Okay.
>> You seem to be
taking this pretty well.
>> I don't, like,
cry, ever, so I mean,
I'm hurt inside right now,
but I'm just not showing it.
>> Usually, when we
have these situations,
it's introducing two strangers
to each other.
You guys are not strangers.
You have a very real
relationship in real life,
so the question is, like, well,
what happens to that now?
>> I just--I just want to
kind of think a little bit
by myself.
>> Yeah, all right,
well, good to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you too.
>> * Stories I've been told *
* Crying 'cause I know *
* It won't be too long *
>> Take the afternoon.
Think about everything.
>> Yeah, yeah.
See you guys soon.
>> All right,
we'll talk to you later.
>> Yeah.
Bull[bleep].
It's all [bleep] bull[bleep].
[bleep].
Oh, my God.
>> Good morning.
>> Good morning.
Who's this?
And having--
>> Just some random dude
in my--my bathroom.
>> Guys stay over last night?
>> [laughing]
>> [sighs]
All right, well, let's call
Kharece to see how she's feeling
and what she's up to.
[phone line trilling]
>> Hello?
>> Hey, Kharece.
>> Hi.
>> We thought it might be nice
to come talk to you
without Brandon.
>> Oh, Nikki that we met
from the barbecue the other day?
>> All right,
see you in a little bit.
>> Hi.
>> Hey.
>> Hey, everybody.
>> You know Nikki.
>> Yeah, hey.
>> Nice to meet you again.
>> Good to see you.
>> This is my friend Erica.
>> Hi, nice to meet you.
>> Hi, nice to meet you.
>> So both of you have known the
entire time about the situation?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah, pretty much.
>> Specifically that you were
talking to Brandon as McKenna?
>> Mm-hmm, yes.
>> I felt like I never lied
to him, other than my identity.
I meant every single thing
I said.
>> And her whole goal
was just to talk with him.
It's hard when you're so in love
with someone who consistently
invites you over but doesn't
say, "We're not dating."
>> So he never
directly told you--
>> No, he never said,
"I don't like you that way."
He never said that.
>> We would hear it through
his friends or something,
but he never did.
>> And Nikki's seen this.
When me and him are alone,
it's completely different than
when his friends are around.
>> He acts like he's a couple
with her.
>> And then when we go to, like,
a party, he never speaks to me.
And it's, like, are you,
like, embarrassed by me?
It makes me feel like crap.
>> So why are you
still pursuing him?
I mean, if he did want
to go out with you,
he probably would have made
that clear by now.
>> People tell me all the time,
but it's, like, every time
we see each other, it's like,
I'm like, "Today's the day
he's gonna commit
and say we're ready."
>> Yeah.
>> And I don't want to
give up on something that
would be great, eventually.
>> I get it a little bit more
now, obviously.
>> Yeah.
>> So I feel like we
should go over there.
We'll help back you up
on a lot of these things
so that you can effectively
communicate them.
>> That'll be helpful.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> Bye.
>> Bye.
>> * I've been caught *
* In the wire
* Since I turned
* Eight years old
>> What do you think right now,
just in terms of, like,
going over to see Brandon?
>> If I don't look at him
directly, I can do this.
I can say how I feel.
I don't want to say the wrong
thing that he might hate me for.
>> * Free me
>> [sighing]
>> This episode of
"Catfish: The TV Show"
continues now.
All right.
You got this?
>> I think so.
>> Be brave.
>> Okay, I'm trying.
>> All right, guys.
>> Oh, my God, okay.
>> Hey, guys, how's it going?
>> Hey, Brandon.
>> What's up, bud?
>> Come on in, come on in.
>> All right, well,
we all just came from talking.
From what I understand,
you guys have had something,
and it wasn't exactly
clear what it was.
>> Is there a reason why you
were never able to directly
voice your opinions to her?
>> I think it was because
I thought it was pretty clear,
just from what my friends have
told me that they said to her,
and so I thought she got it.
>> But it was hard
for me to believe it if,
like, you never said it,
so I've just held on to the hope
of us being together, like,
just hanging out, you know.
>> But also, even if you had
said a million times,
"I don't want to date you,"
but then called her
and been like, "Hey,
come over and hang out," like,
that's a mixed signal.
>> Knowing her feelings
towards you.
>> Right.
I want to make it clear.
I do not have those feelings
for you as you do for me,
and I know how you feel.
Trust me, I do.
>> [sighs]
Like, there's correlation
between me and McKenna.
>> Yeah, uh--
>> The only things that she
protected herself from were
things that would give away
her identity.
The person that you were
talking to was her.
>> I was her.
>> I just didn't see
the correlation whatsoever.
>> Right, but maybe you never
really thought about her that
way, but that really is her.
>> It was hard for her
when you guys weren't talking.
I mean--
>> Well, that's why I did it.
Like, that's why I started
talking to you as someone else,
because it's, like, although you
were talking to someone else,
it's like I was still
talking to you.
>> Okay.
Yeah, I can understand that.
>> And it's hard to,
like, think of it that way
when you know other things
about me.
I get that.
It makes sense.
>> I'm really sorry
that I made those mistakes
and hurt you that way.
>> I'm sorry I lied to you
about who I was.
I'm completely aware
of how you feel,
and it makes sense now 'cause
you've said it out loud,
but that doesn't mean
I don't want to see you,
and if you don't want
to see me, like, okay.
I can understand that,
but, like, we don't have
to hang out every single second
of every single day, but it's,
like, I just want to see you.
>> I have no problem
with us still being friends,
at the least.
>> Yeah.
>> If you guys are gonna
continue to be friends,
you know, you can't lead her on,
and you have to protect
your heart at the same time.
>> Hopefully, coming away from
this with a clear understanding
of where you guys stand with
each other, will only make it
that much easier for you guys
to get closer as friends.
[computer trilling]
Hello, Brandon.
>> What's up?
>> What's up, man?
>> Do you still
speak with Kharece?
>> She'll, like, text me
or Snapchat me casually,
but there's nothing
to that degree.
>> Are you dating anybody now
or seeing anyone?
>> No, probably won't
till hunting season's over.
>> What are you hunting?
>> Ducks.
>> You're looking for ducks,
not [bleep].
>> Yeah.
>> All right, later, Brandon.
>> Bye-bye.
>> Hey!
>> Hi, Kharece.
>> Hi.
>> So how are you feeling
after the whole crazy situation
with Brandon?
>> I--I don't know.
I mean, this is pathetic,
but sometimes I'll, like,
wake up in the middle of the
night just, like, crying
'cause I can't see him ever.
He's far away.
>> Aww.
>> Do you think there's ever
a chance that you and Brandon
could end up together?
>> I don't know.
I think he misses me
more than he lets on,
but maybe that's just because
I want him to miss me.
>> Don't worry.
You're so cute.
You'll find somebody.
>> Well, thanks.
>> All right, well,
it was good hearing from you.
I'm sure Prince Charming
will come around soon enough.
>> Thank you, bye.
>> Bye, guys.
>> Bye.
>> "My girlfriend asked me to
move to another state."
>> He's never heard her voice!
>> She's the first person I ever
said "I love you" to.
>> It's probably a guy.
>> It's a guy.
[both gasp]
>> This is bad.
>> They're messing with Jaylin.
He needs to know the truth.
>> Uh-oh, they could be
coming out.
>> I've missed out on so much
the past three years.
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