Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 4, Episode 3 - Harold & Armani - full transcript
A guy finds his match in the same neighborhood, but never meets her.
>> She's in there somewhere.
>> I'm ready.
>> Looks sort of sketch
in there.
All right. I buzzed.
[siren blipping]
>> Oh.
>> What the [bleep]?
>> Hi, I'm Nev,
and I'm jumping into the fourth
season of Catfish.
>> I'm gonna have
a heart attack.
>> But starting off,
things are a little different.
We don't have Max.
>> Action!
>> My co-host is directing
We Are Your Friends,
his first feature film,
starring Zac Efron.
So for five episodes...
>> 'Sup, Nev?
>> Hey, man.
I'll be on the road with
guest partners.
>> Catfish!
>> What's this?
A TV monitor?
[gasps] Whoa!
>> But the mystery...
Foot fetish.
>> [gasps]
>> Don't you follow no angry
black man into their house.
>> Deception...
>> This could be the biggest
family betrayal this show
has ever seen.
>> Forgiveness...
>> There might be hope for you
if you are honest
from the get-go.
>> And shocking twists
are back.
We don't know what the hell's
coming out of that house.
>> What the [bleep]?
>> This is Catfish: The TV Show.
By the way, have you guys
noticed that the artwork
in this hotel is,
like, for giants?
It's, like, taller than me.
All right, so we're doing
something different 'cause
Max is not here.
>> Action.
>> He's in Los Angeles
directing a big Hollywood movie.
He ditched us for Zac Efron,
guys.
>> Bye, Nev.
>> It's just not the same
without him, but
we got some amazing co-hosts,
and this week
might be the coolest:
Angel Haze.
>> * It seems like yesterday
* That I was nothing
* Then all of a sudden
* I'm a volcanic eruption *
>> She's a musician,
hip-hop artist, rapper.
She's got an amazing album,
hit single.
>> * The pinnacle
* If they can't reach you *
* Then they can't top you *
>> And I invited her
to come on the show,
so we're gonna start
this episode together.
[line ringing]
Hey-o!
>> What's up?
>> Can you see me?
>> Yeah, I can see
you perfectly.
Can you see me?
>> I can see you.
>> Ready? Touch the screen.
Touch the--
[laughs]
Have you been watching
the show for a while?
>> I'm not gonna pretend I'm not
obsessed, like everyone else.
It's an awesome show.
I like overall what it,
you know, signifies,
and I hope this person
gets their happily ever after,
I suppose.
>> The subject of the email is,
"Where do I go from here?"
Question mark.
So already it's drawing us in.
"My name is Harold.
I'm 18 years old,
and I'm from Sauk Village,
Illinois.
I met a girl
named Armani Brown online,
who I've been talking to since
my freshman year in high school.
I feel like I love her, but,
then, how can you love someone
you've never seen in person?"
>> * Have you ever met someone
* Who made you crazy
>> "She is 21 years of age
and is from Kankakee, Illinois.
She's told me she works
at a school as the janitor."
At least she's not, like,
a model.
>> Yeah, that's better.
>> "We messaged each other
for a few months.
I then started dating a girl
from my high school
and didn't think it was right
to keep talking to Armani,
so we lost touch."
>> * It almost killed you
>> "Since then, I've spent most
of my time playing basketball."
>> * It almost killed you
>> "I've had other girlfriends
but nobody that understands me
like Armani does."
>> * Whoa-oh
>> "Now we talk every day
on Facebook, text,
and we talk on the phone because
we have so much in common,
like we both love basketball.
We're both really funny."
>> Oh, they're so sweet.
>> I know, right?
They're, like, really into it.
"I'm at a turning point
in my life.
I want to know if Armani
and I have a future together
or if I should break things off
and focus on my new life
in college.
I really need help, Nev"--
and I'm gonna insert
"and Angel"--
"Sincerely, Harold."
I'm gonna call him Hal,
'cause I like that.
>> I'm just gonna go ahead
and be hopeful for him.
>> All right, you ready?
I'm gonna add Harold
to this call.
Here he comes. Here he comes.
He looks tough in that picture.
>> How you doing?
>> Good. How are you?
Can you see everybody?
>> Yes, I can see both of you.
>> I'm Angel.
You have to wave back, man.
You have to wave back.
>> Oh, hey.
[laughter]
>> On a scale of one to ten,
how hot is Armani?
>> I would say a nine,
so pretty hot.
>> Nine? That's pretty hot.
And you have, like,
no ideas or thoughts
that she might be fake?
>> None at all because when I
used to play basketball
in high school,
she went out with one
of the guys on the team.
He always said he was with her,
so I assumed she was,
like, real,
like, a real person, so...
And she looked kind of cute,
so I was like,
"I'm just gonna add her,"
and she gave me her number,
and we started to text a lot.
>> You still haven't been able
to meet up with her
or something?
>> Where she's at,
it's about 4 1/2 hours,
and she never wants to,
like, Skype, 'cause
she always says her phones are
so bogus, like, the camera.
Like, it's just a lot of excuses
piled on top of excuses.
>> Now you're at college,
and you got all these ladies
hollering at you.
>> Tell me about it.
[laughter]
>> But your heart's tied up
with this girl, Armani.
>> When I get open with someone,
I catch feelings really fast,
'cause I don't just
open up just to anybody.
>> But you're willing
to take the risk
and finally sort of find out
who this girl is?
>> Yes.
I'm willing to take that risk.
>> I mean, you're gonna try
and put the ball in the hoop.
>> You're gonna try to put
the ball in her court.
>> Ooh.
>> Maybe she'll throw
it back to you.
Ooh.
I just hope she's real.
I hope you get what you want.
Like, I really do.
>> We'll see you
in a little bit.
>> Word.
>> Um, I think he's screwed.
>> You're already ready
to throw the towel in?
You think it's over?
>> I'm not gonna throw in
the towel, because I'm
far too excited for the ending.
I feel like an inspector
or something.
>> Oh, okay.
You're feeling confident
that you can crack the case.
>> Yeah.
>> See you tomorrow.
>> Bye.
>> Bye.
>> All right.
Well, if you guys are ready,
I invite you to come with me
on an epic journey.
>> * Stand up
* There's always *
* Someone dreaming
* Of some unknown meaning
* To their every day
*
>> Thank you for coming.
This is a very important meeting
we're having here at our
giant boardroom table.
>> How goes it?
>> Welcome to the show.
>> Sick.
>> What was it about this show
that attracted you?
>> My natural curiosity,
but I've had it happen
to me before, but it's also--
>> You've had what happen?
>> I've been catfished.
>> You had, like,
an online friend or...
>> Yes, totally.
>> What was it? Explain.
>> I was totally into
this person who was online,
and I ended up going to D.C.
to meet them,
and she totally, like,
came as a different person.
It was weird because I'm not
shallow enough to be like, "Oh,
I don't like you anymore
because you're 200 pounds."
That's stupid to me,
except, when you make
the decision to lie to someone,
then you also make that decision
to accept the fact that you're
risking losing them as well.
>> Yeah.
He's right here in
this little apartment building.
>> All right, I'm gonna knock.
[knocking sternly]
>> Wow, that's
like a police knock.
Hey.
Whoa. There he is.
>> How you doing?
>> Hey, man.
>> Whoa.
>> How you doing?
>> What's with all--
>> Great. How are you?
>> Good to see you.
>> All this height?
>> This is Angel.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> Hi. Nice to meet you.
Right after you guys.
>> Hey, man.
Well, here we go.
[laughs]
You got your name
on your basketball.
That's so adorable.
>> You know, I don't want nobody
to just walk off with it.
>> Whoa.
>> The hell?
>> I can do a pinkie too.
>> Wow.
>> I can't do--
>> Can you spin?
>> No.
>> So how is school going?
Freshman year,
it's going pretty well?
>> It's real good.
It's nice to, like,
move away from,
like, the small town
I come from 'cause
a lot happened over the summer,
actually.
>> What happened?
>> I lost seven friends
in two months over gun violence.
>> Gun violence?
>> Yeah.
>> Wow.
>> Wait, seven friends from
your hometown died this summer?
>> Yes.
>> All a related thing,
or was it, like, all at once?
What happened?
>> It was, like,
as days went on.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah.
It's eating me up inside.
Like, it's hard
to focus on school sometimes.
>> Were your friends in gangs?
>> Like, I wasn't part
of none of that,
but, like, I had friends
that did stuff like that.
I have gotten shot at before.
>> Wow.
>> What was going on?
>> We was at the stoplight,
and there's one, two,
three cars in front of us,
and then they let a shot off.
It grazed somebody in the neck,
and it went past my head too.
Felt, like, the heat
on the back of the neck.
>> That's ruthless.
>> That was one of my friends
that died later on
in the summer.
>> Wow.
>> So you're dealing with a lot
in your freshman year.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> And I'm just gonna
take a wild guess, the girl
makes it all feel better.
>> She was real supportive,
actually, because I didn't talk
to anybody else about it.
>> It might be love.
You're not sure.
>> It feels like it, but, yeah,
it's like, I don't know
how I could love somebody
I'm not even with,
so it's crazy.
>> The pictures
that you've seen of her,
are they all, like, very, very,
like, Photoshop-ish?
>> Only seen one picture.
>> both: What?
>> One picture.
>> What? In four years?
>> Yes.
>> Got to see this girl, man.
>> One picture.
>> And can you click on it?
>> Nope.
>> Do you know
any of her friends?
>> One of her friends tried
to call me off that number
when me and Armani stopped
talking, and I picked up.
I was like, "Um, who is this?"
And then she was like,
"This is Armani's friend."
She was like, "Why you stop
talking to Armani?"
And I just kind of hung up.
Another one of her friends
tried to add me on Facebook.
Uh, Deshyla?
>> Deshyla?
>> I had a, like, feeling
like Armani added me
on her friend's page, actually.
>> To spy on you or something.
>> Yeah.
>> How did we get from you
having Armani blocked
and her friend blocked back
into where we are now?
>> I shot her a text, and--
>> And then you spoke.
>> Yeah.
She was pregnant,
about to have the baby.
>> Whose baby?
>> Whose baby?
>> When I started back
talking to her,
she was already pregnant.
She said it was,
like, a accident.
>> Okay.
>> The dude that has the--
like, the baby's
father's in jail.
>> And so wait a second.
Does she now have a kid?
>> Thank you.
>> Yeah.
>> What's the kid's name?
>> Jrue.
>> That is a cute baby too.
What do you actually feel for
her when you think about her?
>> Trust.
>> So she's trustworthy?
>> Yeah, 'cause
I have trust issues,
but I kind of gave her a chance,
and I don't do that with
anybody else.
Anybody else.
>> You never meet guys like you
in this day and age.
I think it says a lot
about your willingness
and your ability
to connect with people.
It's seriously endearing.
>> If you guys did meet
and you guys started dating,
like, would that be a big...
>> It'll be a big thing.
Maybe picture
future things with us.
>> Wow, you're really
thinking about, like,
a serious relationship?
>> Yeah. I hope so.
>> I don't know what we're gonna
find or not find.
It may not be
exactly what you want to hear.
>> I'm ready.
>> All right.
Let's rock and roll.
We will speak to you real soon.
>> All right.
>> I don't know.
Such a sweet guy.
[groans]
Look, the reason
that I'm always open-minded
and hopeful is because I've seen
so many situations
that were so unpredictable.
Like, you've got to be open
to both sides of the story.
>> He seems like
he'd be happy with her.
I'm just as invested as he is.
>> Free Wi-Fi.
>> Anywhere with free Wi-Fi
is okay by me.
Harold and Armani.
He's totally in it
with this girl.
>> Totally.
>> Aside from what she's told
him, he's seen, like,
almost nothing of her life.
>> Nothing except for that baby.
>> We have a job.
We have a mission.
Isn't Armani a funny
like, hip-hop song?
>> No, I think it's Versace
you're thinking of.
>> Oh, yeah, it's Versace.
Okay. Email from Harold.
"Here's what I know
about Armani.
Her new phone number
is 815-[bleep].
She has an old phone number,
815-[bleep].
Her friends on Facebook
that I blocked are Deshyla
and Babay Gotem' Madd.
>> What?
>> This needs be a [bleep]--
>> That's her name.
It's amazing.
So let's take that tiny
thumbnail picture of Armani
and see if it shows up
on the Internet anywhere.
No.
>> Nothing.
>> Here's Armani's
Facebook page.
It's just what you see.
No other photos.
There's no information.
>> Nothing.
>> Let's do a search for
Armani's current phone number.
This could be huge.
>> No name.
That's evil.
>> Okay.
Let's search
for Armani's old phone number.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Let's see what we get.
Okay. Got a hit.
Marcus Brown.
Her last name is Brown.
>> "2fly4u."
>> Yeah, that's the
email address, 2fly4u.
Oh, Kankakee, Illinois.
All right, so this
is maybe her dad.
The fact that her old phone
number is registered to someone
named Marcus Brown...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Is actually really good
because that means
that she's very likely
been telling the truth
about at least her last name.
>> And where she's from.
>> Let's look up 2fly4u.
2fly4u is Marcus Brown's email.
>> Email.
>> You see that?
Tamila [bleep].
What is this?
>> Basketball.
>> Whoa.
So this is an old, like,
basketball recruiting website.
Check this out.
>> 5'11". Right there.
He said she was 5'10".
>> 5'11", weight: 200 pounds.
>> 202. Oh, God.
>> I mean, let's just
see what comes up
when we do a Google search
for Tamila [bleep].
Tamila [bleep].
This is definitely not...
>> Not the same girl.
>> The girl in the Facebook
picture he's been looking at.
>> Who the [bleep]
is Tamila [bleep]?
>> This potentially is Armani.
What haven't we looked up
yet, though?
The two people
who reached out to Harold
when he and Armani
stopped talking were Deshyla...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> And Babay Gotem' Madd.
Does Deshyla have
a Facebook page?
>> Yeah. He said she did.
>> Bam. Okay.
So here is Deshyla's
Facebook page.
If we're gonna try
and figure this out,
we kind of need to talk to her.
>> Yeah.
>> All right. Here, message.
"Hey, Deshyla.
We could really use your help in
clearing up a couple questions
and would appreciate
you getting in touch."
>> Bang.
>> Okay, so let's look up
the other friend,
Babay Gotem' Madd.
>> Right.
>> This is the girl who
called Harold and was like--
>> And tried to get him
to talk to her.
>> On behalf of Armani.
Here.
>> There it is.
>> There we go.
All right, so who's this?
>> See? Another one.
>> Jrue!
>> Oh!
>> "Jrue in his
Tommy Hilfiger hat!!"
>> Holy [bleep]. Bucket hat.
>> I mean, come on.
That's totally the same kid.
She posted a picture of him
like it's her...
>> Like it's her baby, like.
>> Baby.
It's not like Jrue is just
chilling at Babay's house.
[laughter]
"I be freaqqy..."
>> "But that's none
of ya'll business."
Okay, yeah.
She talks exactly like that girl
from the text messages.
>> Yeah. Oh, that's true.
Yeah, with the Qs, right?
>> Maybe Armani is actually
Babay Gotem' Madd.
I, like, am 100% now
this girl is Armani.
>> This could be our girl.
[cell phone rings]
All right.
Momence, Illinois.
>> Hello?
>> Oh, hi. Deshyla, yes.
Great. This is Nev.
Have you ever seen Catfish?
>> Okay, cool. So how--
>> [babbling]
>> Oh, is that your kid?
>> We're helping a guy
track down a girl he's been
talking to for a while.
You're friends
with a girl on Facebook, uh,
named Babay Gotem' Madd.
>> Oh, okay.
She has an adorable baby boy,
Jrue, right?
That's her baby?
>> Oh, okay.
And are you friends with Armani?
>> Have you ever heard her
talking about her friend Harold?
>> Is there any reason why you
don't think they've met up yet?
>> Oh, yeah?
Where does she work?
>> What?
>> This is all good news.
I mean, because you're--
>> [babbling]
>> Okay.
>> Okay.
Hey, Deshyla?
>> I'm, like, more mind-[bleep]
now that we've gotten off
the phone with her.
This is so hard.
>> No, I think Deshyla
is a friend.
I just think she's either
telling us the truth
and Armani is a person
who's just super private,
or she's covering for her friend
named Tamila, possibly,
or Babay Gotem' Madd.
>> Yeah.
>> Or Deshyla is Armani.
>> Got Deshyla.
We've got a Babay,
and we've got Tamila [bleep].
>> I think we should go
and talk to Harold
and see if any of this
makes sense to him.
>> I think everybody's lying.
Poor Harold.
>> Now it's all real.
He's totally getting played.
Like, that's the only thing
that sucks.
>> I think there's something
happening here for sure.
>> Yeah.
Nothing sucks more
than people who lie.
I suddenly just
got really nervous.
>> Yoo-hoo.
What's up, man?
Is it cool if the guys come in?
>> Oh, yeah. Cool.
>> All right.
>> Got some good news,
and I've got some bad news.
I'm confused as [bleep],
basically.
>> We started with the phone
numbers.
Armani's old number brought us
back with an email address.
>> "2fly4u."
>> So we just did a Google
search for that email address,
and we got a couple things back,
and it's for someone
in Kankakee,
but their name is
Tamila [bleep].
>> Hmm.
Name doesn't ring a bell.
Ooh, uh--
>> Do you know
who this person is?
>> No.
>> The Google search
that we did for Tamila,
we also found this interesting,
like, BeRecruited page.
>> Basketball.
>> 5'11".
>> 5'11", which is what--right?
>> I haven't seen her, but yeah,
that's close enough.
>> 200 pounds.
>> That's more than me.
>> Is it?
>> Yeah.
>> What if this is Armani?
>> Hmm.
Might have
some difficulty there.
>> Why?
>> That picture
was stuck in my brain,
and when I see this picture,
it's, like, the complete
opposite of what's on
that picture.
But, like I said,
we're not 100% sure yet,
so I still--
just trying to hang in there.
>> So the next thing we did
was--you told us that you
got a friend request
from one of Armani's friends...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> That you didn't accept.
This girl Deshyla, right?
So I spoke to her,
and I asked her if she
knew someone named Armani.
She said, "Oh, yeah.
That's my friend."
>> "I was with her an hour ago,"
she said.
>> Yeah, she was with her,
she said.
>> Hmm.
>> And so I was like, "Oh,
does she have a son?"
She said, "Yeah.
She's got a newborn."
>> Deshyla also said
that the baby was Jrue.
>> Oh-whee. Ooh.
>> I said, "Do you ever
hear her talk about Harold?"
>> She's like, "Ha-ha.
She talks about Harold
all the time.
That's all she cares about."
>> Yeah,
and she confirmed everything
you think is true.
>> Right.
>> So the next thing we did--
you told us that this
Babay Gotem' Madd called you.
>> Yeah.
>> Right?
It says that she's
from Kankakee.
Does this girl appeal to you?
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, yeah?
>> Seriously?
>> She looks kind of tall.
She talks like that.
>> Yup.
>> With, like, two Qs?
>> Yeah.
>> And then wait.
Check this out.
>> Oh!
>> On August 26th.
>> "Jrue in his
Tommy Hilfiger hat!!"
>> It doesn't say, like,
"my nephew."
It doesn't say,
"my friend's kid."
It says just Jrue.
>> Hmm.
Now I'm thinking that maybe
that's not her friend.
Maybe that's her.
>> I can't understand why this
girl, who takes lots of pictures
and puts them online...
>> Wouldn't send me any.
>> Who's got a smartphone,
wouldn't be sending 'em to you.
>> No.
>> But you definitely
like this chick.
>> Oh, Jesus [bleep].
Sorry. It's physicality.
It's physicality for him.
It's it. That's it.
>> No, it's not, but, like--
>> I was rooting for you.
It's just, I'm having
trouble understanding
how you're gonna be able to,
one, as a person
who has, like, said
that you have trust issues--
Anyone that I've ever dated,
like, regardless of whether
it was on the Internet
or in person, had lied to me
about something
as simple their favorite color.
So if someone can lie to you
about something as small as a
name, then what else can they
lie to you about?
How are you, like,
making that okay in your head?
>> I mean, you have
to take into consideration
that everybody's not,
you know, perfect.
>> I would just think
that you're settling.
>> If we want to know who Armani
is, we need to call Armani,
if it's cool with you.
>> That's cool.
>> Because hopefully she's ready
to finally meet you too.
>> * Those places that I never
* Thought I'd go *
>> Well, here's the question.
You've been in this relationship
for so long,
and it's all been about,
like, an emotional connection
built on trust.
>> * But now that road
* Just crumbles as I talk
>> And you find out this girl,
no matter how fine she is,
hasn't been honest with you.
What does it matter
what she looks like?
>> She's still a liar.
>> Right.
>> And are you okay with that?
>> * So don't let the ones *
* That want to steal
* Your dreams
* They'll steal *
* Your dreams away
>> Okay, so this is arguably
the most awkward moment,
is making the call.
[exhales deeply]
Okay, ready?
>> I'm about to hyperventilate.
My heart's, like,
about to fall--
>> You're nervous?
>> I'm nervous.
>> I'm calling. It's calling.
[line ringing]
>> Hi. Is this Armani?
>> Yes, this is Nev Schulman.
Um, I am one of the hosts
of the show Catfish.
>> So I bet you can guess
why I'm calling.
>> I mean, come on.
I bet you could figure it out.
>> [laughs]
>> Yeah, that's right,
our man Harold.
The one thing kind of
that he really wants
almost more than anything
is to finally meet you,
so he asked
if we could help him out.
>> Well, yeah.
What is the deal
with your Facebook page?
>> How come you've never texted
Harold a picture of yourself?
>> All right.
Well, then I guess the question
is, how would you feel
about trying to meet up?
>> Okay.
>> Right...
>> So yeah,
so text me your info,
and I guess we'll see you
in a day or two.
>> Okay.
All right. Good-bye.
>> Okay, bye.
>> I'm just so confused
right now.
Like, I have no clue
who she could actually be.
>> And everything I asked her,
she had an answer for.
>> Perfect answer to.
>> Right, but she's down
to meet up with us.
At least we know we're going
to get an answer.
The only thing that could
possibly put his mind
to rest is just...
>> Meeting her.
It just--it scares me 'cause
it could go either way.
>> So did you make it
to your class?
>> I overslept.
>> What class was it?
Psychology?
>> African-American history.
>> Oh, you missed your own
[bleep].
[laughter]
Oh, my God.
Come on.
>> Well, back at the hotel,
we called her.
I just said, like, "Can we come
and see you?"
And she said, "Yes."
>> Wow.
>> There's still a lot
of questions,
but it looks like we'll get
the answers we need
when we just meet up with her.
Well, I think we should
hit the road.
>> I'm ready.
>> I'm feeling like she could be
anyone in the world.
>> There's Babay,
and there's Tamila,
and then there's also
just the Armani.
It could just be her.
Would you say that you feel
like you love this girl?
>> It feels like it.
I could have a bad day,
and I could call Armani,
and just makes me feel better.
We could be playing around,
talking about, like, gonna
get married in a few years.
>> You guys have talked about
that a little bit?
>> Yeah.
>> * Stop the car
* On the track
* Stoop to kiss me
* I can't kiss you back *
* Shed no tears
* For all the years
* You've made up *
* For what I lacked
>> I'm probably
more nervous than she is.
>> Go ahead and knock.
[knocking]
>> Ah.
>> We're lucky he's awake.
>> Good morning, my friend.
>> Good morning.
>> I have good news.
We just got an address,
finally, from Armani.
>> All right.
>> We're just a few minutes
away from that front door.
>> Let me touch your heart.
>> Yeah, it got a little fast.
>> Yeah. It's so close now.
>> Yeah.
I mean, that's very close.
>> Let's get to it.
Intense.
>> You seem pretty cool
about it, though.
>> Oh, it might seem
like that on the outside,
but inside, it's
a totally different story.
>> And now you're like,
"Who the hell is she?"
>> Yeah.
I've waited so long
just to figure out one thing,
to see if this girl's
real or not.
>> There's Babay,
and there's Tamila,
and then there's also
just the Armani.
>> Right.
>> It could just be her.
>> Heart racing.
Nervous.
Curious.
>> We're basically there.
I think it's this, like,
apartment building right here.
There it is.
Let's do it.
>> Let's get it.
>> All right.
>> She's in there somewhere.
>> I'm ready.
>> Looks sort of sketch
in there.
All right. I buzzed.
[siren blipping]
>> Oh.
>> Okay.
Hi.
>> Hello.
I'm Babay.
>> Babay, AKA Armani.
>> No, Armani's in the inside
right now.
>> What the [bleep]?
>> So you're not Armani?
>> No.
She's, like,
very nervous right now.
>> So is she coming out?
>> Definitely.
>> Well, now we don't know
what the hell
is coming out of that house.
Just be prepared
for anything, man.
>> Okay.
>> Holy crap.
>> Bae.
>> Armani?
>> Yeah.
>> All right. Come on out.
>> Hello.
>> Hi, how are you?
>> How are you?
>> Good. Nice to meet you.
>> Can I get a hug.
Hey, Harold.
>> How you doing?
>> Good.
Aw, can I get another hug?
I missed you.
Oh.
Hello.
>> "Ta-meela" [bleep]?
>> It's "Tam-ila."
>> I thought it was "Ta-meela."
>> No, it's "Tam-ila."
>> This is Angel, sorry.
>> Hello.
>> Here he is.
>> Hey, bae.
Was this what you was expecting?
>> You do have a son...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Named Jrue.
>> Mm-hmm.
Well, everything about me
is true, every single thing
that I told you,
except for, I guess,
that picture.
>> You started the Armani page
four or five years ago.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> And you used a picture
of some girl.
Do you know who that is or--
>> Mm-mm.
>> I mean, what made you want
to pick that picture?
>> Like, were you ever
gonna text him and say, "Hey,
I'm not the girl
you see in the pictures"?
>> Eventually, but--
Isn't that what you fell in love
with, a picture or me?
>> You know, mentally
and emotionally,
we had a good connection,
but then I thought
you were, like,
the person in that picture,
so I liked the physical
appearance too.
Yeah.
>> Right, and you thought I was
just this light-skinned girl.
>> Five years.
>> Not just that.
I mean, you know--
>> The picture thing.
>> What he's pissed about
is that, like--
>> That I pretended to be her?
>> You pretended to be
someone else.
He didn't say, "I only
like light-skinned girls."
>> That's his type, though.
[laughs]
>> You seem pretty lighthearted
about the whole situation.
>> [laughs]
>> You guys have sort of been
in on it together for a while.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Since high school.
>> I just really think
this [bleep] is petty.
He's not living his life
because you guys are [bleep]
with him on the Internet.
It's not fair.
It's petty as [bleep].
>> He blocked her, though.
>> You do your basketball.
>> Yeah,
but he doesn't date girls.
He doesn't do anything because
he's wrapped up in a telephone
conversation with you...
>> Well, he had a girlfriend.
>> Pretending to be
someone else.
>> True.
>> Except all of it.
>> Can we talk?
Just, like, take
a two-second break?
Here, let's just go regroup.
You're being very sweet
and hugging her,
and do you actually feel
like you're cool
and that you want to be friends
with her?
>> Just seeing how she was kind
of just okay with the whole
situation,
it's something that happens
every day or something.
>> It's a joke.
Damn.
>> Oops.
>> Okay, I'll walk over.
You guys want to come over,
chat a little bit more?
Is this where you live?
>> Oh, it's my cousin's house.
I can't go to my house 'cause
all the kids there and stuff,
so...
[laughs]
>> Man.
>> Hmm, got something
you want to say, Harold?
>> If it's cool, why don't you
guys just talk a little bit?
Most of your relationship,
it's just been you guys anyway.
Babay, you want to come chat
with us for a minute?
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Can I get another hug?
>> Nope.
>> You don't even want
to hug me no more.
Wow.
>> 'Cause now it's just,
like, sinking in.
>> Why's your friend
so insecure?
>> This takes it all the way
back to high school, you know?
She used to try to talk to boys.
They didn't want to talk to her,
so...
>> Anyways...
Oh, so you chicken, huh?
>> I don't need it.
>> Boy, please!
Can I walk away from him?
Bye.
I'm about to go over here.
>> 'Cause he said something
I didn't like.
>> She want to give me
20 minutes of...
>> No, he--
>> Yeah.
>> What?
>> Word.
>> Nothing.
>> What?
>> Okay.
>> I don't know about that.
>> Yeah, all right.
>> What?
>> He's just now finally
finding out a big part
of who you are.
Maybe for the moment,
we should just chill out,
figure something out
for tomorrow or something.
>> Sound good.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you, Babay.
>> I'm not shaking his hand.
He made me mad.
>> Okay.
See you later, ladies.
>> Bye.
>> This is [bleep] up.
>> Did she ask to give
you a [bleep] job?
>> Yes.
>> What the [bleep]?
>> You know back then
when the finals were going on,
the Heat were playing the Pacers
or whatever?
>> Okay.
>> She was like, "If the Heat
win, I'll give you [bleep]
for 20 minutes.
If the Pacers win,
you got to give me [bleep]
for 20 minutes."
>> Oh.
>> And then, okay,
the Heat won, so then she
was like, "Okay, I owe you."
>> Do you feel like you
know that person at all?
>> Not really.
How could you hold a lie
for so long
to somebody
you supposedly care about?
I always get lied to a lot.
>> Why do you think that is?
>> Too nice.
>> So what do you think
you want to do now?
>> To be honest, I kind of just
want to go play basketball
and just take my mind off of it.
That's really the only way
it will work.
>> Yeah, I think
that'll be cool.
>> Sure.
>> * Hey
* Don't color my heart *
* Blues and grays
* Don't tell me that I'm *
* Not okay
* Don't color my heart *
* With your shades
* Don't color my heart *
* 'Cause I'll make it through *
* Yeah, I'll make it through *
* No more tears for you
>> This episode of Catfish:
The TV Show continues now.
Have you texted at all
with Tamila?
>> She text me and said,
"You was mad at me.
I was nervous."
>> I definitely think
you need to sit down
and express yourself more.
>> Well, I guess we could
take a trip over there.
>> All right, you guys
ready to hash it out?
>> Hey.
>> Hey, Tamila.
>> Hello.
Hey, Harold.
>> What's up?
>> Here, you want
to have a seat?
>> Yeah.
>> How did you feel about
the way things went yesterday?
>> Horrible.
At the end, he was just treating
me like, "Yeah, whatever."
You probably thought I was just
laughing about the [bleep].
>> You pretty much were.
>> I wasn't, and you think I
felt good about that?
>> Yeah.
>> No.
>> Do you think of Armani
as a separate entity to you?
>> Like, it's certain stuff
I could say on Armani page
that I'm not comfortable
just saying myself.
Like, if I said something
about sex on my page,
I would probably--they'd be
like, "Why would you say that?"
But on her page, they'd be like,
"Yeah, that's true."
>> And you think it's in regards
to what she looks like?
>> Yeah, probably so,
and that's why I picked
a light-skinned girl
for her picture.
Got way more attention
than I would with
a dark-skinned picture.
>> One of the harshest realities
to come to is that, like...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> As a young, like,
black woman...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> You know, it feels
like you only get praise
if you're lighter.
You have to start
accepting yourself.
>> So it's easier said
than done.
>> I mean, I got rejected a lot.
>> The rejection
is not a good feeling.
>> I felt like that a lot,
but, I mean, you can't let it
hold you, like, down.
>> I'm just trying to just
be me from here on out.
>> That's got to suck,
having feelings for someone,
knowing that you can
never really be with them,
just pretending
like everything's okay.
>> Mm-hmm.
When you like a person so bad
and you know you can't
really be with them 'cause
you're a liar,
that's a harsh feeling,
and I kind of
probably messed it up.
>> You okay?
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Put yourself in it.
You have to feel pain to know
what love is.
>> We'll say good-bye.
Maybe you and Harold
should just talk for a minute.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Okay. Stand up.
>> Give me a hug.
>> Good to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you too.
>> Good luck with everything.
>> Thank you.
I love your swag.
>> Thanks.
>> All right, we'll, uh--
we'll wait for you in the car.
>> So what?
You finna go get you
another girlfriend
and won't talk to me no more?
>> You just lied to me
for four years.
I don't think
you deserve that from me.
>> I'm sorry, Harold.
>> I feel kind of dumb.
I'm opening up to you
about how I feel about stuff,
friends dying and...
>> Harold.
>> What up?
Say yes, bae.
>> No.
>> I mean, I think I'd be a--
a perfect girlfriend.
>> I can't talk
to a girl like that,
who's faking who she was
for four years.
>> * Could have replaced it
>> And if you really
wanted to know,
I think I really did love you.
Honestly, like, completely.
I think I really did.
>> * And this kind of fear
* It drags me under
* You're too good *
* For this, baby
* I'm nothing to no one *
* You'd do best to forget me *
>> Bye, Harold.
>> All right.
>> * When I wake up, shake me
>> Okay.
>> * I'm no good to no one *
* You'd do best to forget me *
* Before you regret me
>> "My relationship with Marcus
is beyond special to me.
I'm more than sure he's the one.
But we've never actually
spoken to each other on the
phone"?
>> This could be the biggest
family betrayal this show has
ever seen.
>> It hurts.
It really does.
>> He may not show up.
>> I don't wanna do this...
1542
00:41:03.
>> I'm ready.
>> Looks sort of sketch
in there.
All right. I buzzed.
[siren blipping]
>> Oh.
>> What the [bleep]?
>> Hi, I'm Nev,
and I'm jumping into the fourth
season of Catfish.
>> I'm gonna have
a heart attack.
>> But starting off,
things are a little different.
We don't have Max.
>> Action!
>> My co-host is directing
We Are Your Friends,
his first feature film,
starring Zac Efron.
So for five episodes...
>> 'Sup, Nev?
>> Hey, man.
I'll be on the road with
guest partners.
>> Catfish!
>> What's this?
A TV monitor?
[gasps] Whoa!
>> But the mystery...
Foot fetish.
>> [gasps]
>> Don't you follow no angry
black man into their house.
>> Deception...
>> This could be the biggest
family betrayal this show
has ever seen.
>> Forgiveness...
>> There might be hope for you
if you are honest
from the get-go.
>> And shocking twists
are back.
We don't know what the hell's
coming out of that house.
>> What the [bleep]?
>> This is Catfish: The TV Show.
By the way, have you guys
noticed that the artwork
in this hotel is,
like, for giants?
It's, like, taller than me.
All right, so we're doing
something different 'cause
Max is not here.
>> Action.
>> He's in Los Angeles
directing a big Hollywood movie.
He ditched us for Zac Efron,
guys.
>> Bye, Nev.
>> It's just not the same
without him, but
we got some amazing co-hosts,
and this week
might be the coolest:
Angel Haze.
>> * It seems like yesterday
* That I was nothing
* Then all of a sudden
* I'm a volcanic eruption *
>> She's a musician,
hip-hop artist, rapper.
She's got an amazing album,
hit single.
>> * The pinnacle
* If they can't reach you *
* Then they can't top you *
>> And I invited her
to come on the show,
so we're gonna start
this episode together.
[line ringing]
Hey-o!
>> What's up?
>> Can you see me?
>> Yeah, I can see
you perfectly.
Can you see me?
>> I can see you.
>> Ready? Touch the screen.
Touch the--
[laughs]
Have you been watching
the show for a while?
>> I'm not gonna pretend I'm not
obsessed, like everyone else.
It's an awesome show.
I like overall what it,
you know, signifies,
and I hope this person
gets their happily ever after,
I suppose.
>> The subject of the email is,
"Where do I go from here?"
Question mark.
So already it's drawing us in.
"My name is Harold.
I'm 18 years old,
and I'm from Sauk Village,
Illinois.
I met a girl
named Armani Brown online,
who I've been talking to since
my freshman year in high school.
I feel like I love her, but,
then, how can you love someone
you've never seen in person?"
>> * Have you ever met someone
* Who made you crazy
>> "She is 21 years of age
and is from Kankakee, Illinois.
She's told me she works
at a school as the janitor."
At least she's not, like,
a model.
>> Yeah, that's better.
>> "We messaged each other
for a few months.
I then started dating a girl
from my high school
and didn't think it was right
to keep talking to Armani,
so we lost touch."
>> * It almost killed you
>> "Since then, I've spent most
of my time playing basketball."
>> * It almost killed you
>> "I've had other girlfriends
but nobody that understands me
like Armani does."
>> * Whoa-oh
>> "Now we talk every day
on Facebook, text,
and we talk on the phone because
we have so much in common,
like we both love basketball.
We're both really funny."
>> Oh, they're so sweet.
>> I know, right?
They're, like, really into it.
"I'm at a turning point
in my life.
I want to know if Armani
and I have a future together
or if I should break things off
and focus on my new life
in college.
I really need help, Nev"--
and I'm gonna insert
"and Angel"--
"Sincerely, Harold."
I'm gonna call him Hal,
'cause I like that.
>> I'm just gonna go ahead
and be hopeful for him.
>> All right, you ready?
I'm gonna add Harold
to this call.
Here he comes. Here he comes.
He looks tough in that picture.
>> How you doing?
>> Good. How are you?
Can you see everybody?
>> Yes, I can see both of you.
>> I'm Angel.
You have to wave back, man.
You have to wave back.
>> Oh, hey.
[laughter]
>> On a scale of one to ten,
how hot is Armani?
>> I would say a nine,
so pretty hot.
>> Nine? That's pretty hot.
And you have, like,
no ideas or thoughts
that she might be fake?
>> None at all because when I
used to play basketball
in high school,
she went out with one
of the guys on the team.
He always said he was with her,
so I assumed she was,
like, real,
like, a real person, so...
And she looked kind of cute,
so I was like,
"I'm just gonna add her,"
and she gave me her number,
and we started to text a lot.
>> You still haven't been able
to meet up with her
or something?
>> Where she's at,
it's about 4 1/2 hours,
and she never wants to,
like, Skype, 'cause
she always says her phones are
so bogus, like, the camera.
Like, it's just a lot of excuses
piled on top of excuses.
>> Now you're at college,
and you got all these ladies
hollering at you.
>> Tell me about it.
[laughter]
>> But your heart's tied up
with this girl, Armani.
>> When I get open with someone,
I catch feelings really fast,
'cause I don't just
open up just to anybody.
>> But you're willing
to take the risk
and finally sort of find out
who this girl is?
>> Yes.
I'm willing to take that risk.
>> I mean, you're gonna try
and put the ball in the hoop.
>> You're gonna try to put
the ball in her court.
>> Ooh.
>> Maybe she'll throw
it back to you.
Ooh.
I just hope she's real.
I hope you get what you want.
Like, I really do.
>> We'll see you
in a little bit.
>> Word.
>> Um, I think he's screwed.
>> You're already ready
to throw the towel in?
You think it's over?
>> I'm not gonna throw in
the towel, because I'm
far too excited for the ending.
I feel like an inspector
or something.
>> Oh, okay.
You're feeling confident
that you can crack the case.
>> Yeah.
>> See you tomorrow.
>> Bye.
>> Bye.
>> All right.
Well, if you guys are ready,
I invite you to come with me
on an epic journey.
>> * Stand up
* There's always *
* Someone dreaming
* Of some unknown meaning
* To their every day
*
>> Thank you for coming.
This is a very important meeting
we're having here at our
giant boardroom table.
>> How goes it?
>> Welcome to the show.
>> Sick.
>> What was it about this show
that attracted you?
>> My natural curiosity,
but I've had it happen
to me before, but it's also--
>> You've had what happen?
>> I've been catfished.
>> You had, like,
an online friend or...
>> Yes, totally.
>> What was it? Explain.
>> I was totally into
this person who was online,
and I ended up going to D.C.
to meet them,
and she totally, like,
came as a different person.
It was weird because I'm not
shallow enough to be like, "Oh,
I don't like you anymore
because you're 200 pounds."
That's stupid to me,
except, when you make
the decision to lie to someone,
then you also make that decision
to accept the fact that you're
risking losing them as well.
>> Yeah.
He's right here in
this little apartment building.
>> All right, I'm gonna knock.
[knocking sternly]
>> Wow, that's
like a police knock.
Hey.
Whoa. There he is.
>> How you doing?
>> Hey, man.
>> Whoa.
>> How you doing?
>> What's with all--
>> Great. How are you?
>> Good to see you.
>> All this height?
>> This is Angel.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> Hi. Nice to meet you.
Right after you guys.
>> Hey, man.
Well, here we go.
[laughs]
You got your name
on your basketball.
That's so adorable.
>> You know, I don't want nobody
to just walk off with it.
>> Whoa.
>> The hell?
>> I can do a pinkie too.
>> Wow.
>> I can't do--
>> Can you spin?
>> No.
>> So how is school going?
Freshman year,
it's going pretty well?
>> It's real good.
It's nice to, like,
move away from,
like, the small town
I come from 'cause
a lot happened over the summer,
actually.
>> What happened?
>> I lost seven friends
in two months over gun violence.
>> Gun violence?
>> Yeah.
>> Wow.
>> Wait, seven friends from
your hometown died this summer?
>> Yes.
>> All a related thing,
or was it, like, all at once?
What happened?
>> It was, like,
as days went on.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah.
It's eating me up inside.
Like, it's hard
to focus on school sometimes.
>> Were your friends in gangs?
>> Like, I wasn't part
of none of that,
but, like, I had friends
that did stuff like that.
I have gotten shot at before.
>> Wow.
>> What was going on?
>> We was at the stoplight,
and there's one, two,
three cars in front of us,
and then they let a shot off.
It grazed somebody in the neck,
and it went past my head too.
Felt, like, the heat
on the back of the neck.
>> That's ruthless.
>> That was one of my friends
that died later on
in the summer.
>> Wow.
>> So you're dealing with a lot
in your freshman year.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> And I'm just gonna
take a wild guess, the girl
makes it all feel better.
>> She was real supportive,
actually, because I didn't talk
to anybody else about it.
>> It might be love.
You're not sure.
>> It feels like it, but, yeah,
it's like, I don't know
how I could love somebody
I'm not even with,
so it's crazy.
>> The pictures
that you've seen of her,
are they all, like, very, very,
like, Photoshop-ish?
>> Only seen one picture.
>> both: What?
>> One picture.
>> What? In four years?
>> Yes.
>> Got to see this girl, man.
>> One picture.
>> And can you click on it?
>> Nope.
>> Do you know
any of her friends?
>> One of her friends tried
to call me off that number
when me and Armani stopped
talking, and I picked up.
I was like, "Um, who is this?"
And then she was like,
"This is Armani's friend."
She was like, "Why you stop
talking to Armani?"
And I just kind of hung up.
Another one of her friends
tried to add me on Facebook.
Uh, Deshyla?
>> Deshyla?
>> I had a, like, feeling
like Armani added me
on her friend's page, actually.
>> To spy on you or something.
>> Yeah.
>> How did we get from you
having Armani blocked
and her friend blocked back
into where we are now?
>> I shot her a text, and--
>> And then you spoke.
>> Yeah.
She was pregnant,
about to have the baby.
>> Whose baby?
>> Whose baby?
>> When I started back
talking to her,
she was already pregnant.
She said it was,
like, a accident.
>> Okay.
>> The dude that has the--
like, the baby's
father's in jail.
>> And so wait a second.
Does she now have a kid?
>> Thank you.
>> Yeah.
>> What's the kid's name?
>> Jrue.
>> That is a cute baby too.
What do you actually feel for
her when you think about her?
>> Trust.
>> So she's trustworthy?
>> Yeah, 'cause
I have trust issues,
but I kind of gave her a chance,
and I don't do that with
anybody else.
Anybody else.
>> You never meet guys like you
in this day and age.
I think it says a lot
about your willingness
and your ability
to connect with people.
It's seriously endearing.
>> If you guys did meet
and you guys started dating,
like, would that be a big...
>> It'll be a big thing.
Maybe picture
future things with us.
>> Wow, you're really
thinking about, like,
a serious relationship?
>> Yeah. I hope so.
>> I don't know what we're gonna
find or not find.
It may not be
exactly what you want to hear.
>> I'm ready.
>> All right.
Let's rock and roll.
We will speak to you real soon.
>> All right.
>> I don't know.
Such a sweet guy.
[groans]
Look, the reason
that I'm always open-minded
and hopeful is because I've seen
so many situations
that were so unpredictable.
Like, you've got to be open
to both sides of the story.
>> He seems like
he'd be happy with her.
I'm just as invested as he is.
>> Free Wi-Fi.
>> Anywhere with free Wi-Fi
is okay by me.
Harold and Armani.
He's totally in it
with this girl.
>> Totally.
>> Aside from what she's told
him, he's seen, like,
almost nothing of her life.
>> Nothing except for that baby.
>> We have a job.
We have a mission.
Isn't Armani a funny
like, hip-hop song?
>> No, I think it's Versace
you're thinking of.
>> Oh, yeah, it's Versace.
Okay. Email from Harold.
"Here's what I know
about Armani.
Her new phone number
is 815-[bleep].
She has an old phone number,
815-[bleep].
Her friends on Facebook
that I blocked are Deshyla
and Babay Gotem' Madd.
>> What?
>> This needs be a [bleep]--
>> That's her name.
It's amazing.
So let's take that tiny
thumbnail picture of Armani
and see if it shows up
on the Internet anywhere.
No.
>> Nothing.
>> Here's Armani's
Facebook page.
It's just what you see.
No other photos.
There's no information.
>> Nothing.
>> Let's do a search for
Armani's current phone number.
This could be huge.
>> No name.
That's evil.
>> Okay.
Let's search
for Armani's old phone number.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Let's see what we get.
Okay. Got a hit.
Marcus Brown.
Her last name is Brown.
>> "2fly4u."
>> Yeah, that's the
email address, 2fly4u.
Oh, Kankakee, Illinois.
All right, so this
is maybe her dad.
The fact that her old phone
number is registered to someone
named Marcus Brown...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Is actually really good
because that means
that she's very likely
been telling the truth
about at least her last name.
>> And where she's from.
>> Let's look up 2fly4u.
2fly4u is Marcus Brown's email.
>> Email.
>> You see that?
Tamila [bleep].
What is this?
>> Basketball.
>> Whoa.
So this is an old, like,
basketball recruiting website.
Check this out.
>> 5'11". Right there.
He said she was 5'10".
>> 5'11", weight: 200 pounds.
>> 202. Oh, God.
>> I mean, let's just
see what comes up
when we do a Google search
for Tamila [bleep].
Tamila [bleep].
This is definitely not...
>> Not the same girl.
>> The girl in the Facebook
picture he's been looking at.
>> Who the [bleep]
is Tamila [bleep]?
>> This potentially is Armani.
What haven't we looked up
yet, though?
The two people
who reached out to Harold
when he and Armani
stopped talking were Deshyla...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> And Babay Gotem' Madd.
Does Deshyla have
a Facebook page?
>> Yeah. He said she did.
>> Bam. Okay.
So here is Deshyla's
Facebook page.
If we're gonna try
and figure this out,
we kind of need to talk to her.
>> Yeah.
>> All right. Here, message.
"Hey, Deshyla.
We could really use your help in
clearing up a couple questions
and would appreciate
you getting in touch."
>> Bang.
>> Okay, so let's look up
the other friend,
Babay Gotem' Madd.
>> Right.
>> This is the girl who
called Harold and was like--
>> And tried to get him
to talk to her.
>> On behalf of Armani.
Here.
>> There it is.
>> There we go.
All right, so who's this?
>> See? Another one.
>> Jrue!
>> Oh!
>> "Jrue in his
Tommy Hilfiger hat!!"
>> Holy [bleep]. Bucket hat.
>> I mean, come on.
That's totally the same kid.
She posted a picture of him
like it's her...
>> Like it's her baby, like.
>> Baby.
It's not like Jrue is just
chilling at Babay's house.
[laughter]
"I be freaqqy..."
>> "But that's none
of ya'll business."
Okay, yeah.
She talks exactly like that girl
from the text messages.
>> Yeah. Oh, that's true.
Yeah, with the Qs, right?
>> Maybe Armani is actually
Babay Gotem' Madd.
I, like, am 100% now
this girl is Armani.
>> This could be our girl.
[cell phone rings]
All right.
Momence, Illinois.
>> Hello?
>> Oh, hi. Deshyla, yes.
Great. This is Nev.
Have you ever seen Catfish?
>> Okay, cool. So how--
>> [babbling]
>> Oh, is that your kid?
>> We're helping a guy
track down a girl he's been
talking to for a while.
You're friends
with a girl on Facebook, uh,
named Babay Gotem' Madd.
>> Oh, okay.
She has an adorable baby boy,
Jrue, right?
That's her baby?
>> Oh, okay.
And are you friends with Armani?
>> Have you ever heard her
talking about her friend Harold?
>> Is there any reason why you
don't think they've met up yet?
>> Oh, yeah?
Where does she work?
>> What?
>> This is all good news.
I mean, because you're--
>> [babbling]
>> Okay.
>> Okay.
Hey, Deshyla?
>> I'm, like, more mind-[bleep]
now that we've gotten off
the phone with her.
This is so hard.
>> No, I think Deshyla
is a friend.
I just think she's either
telling us the truth
and Armani is a person
who's just super private,
or she's covering for her friend
named Tamila, possibly,
or Babay Gotem' Madd.
>> Yeah.
>> Or Deshyla is Armani.
>> Got Deshyla.
We've got a Babay,
and we've got Tamila [bleep].
>> I think we should go
and talk to Harold
and see if any of this
makes sense to him.
>> I think everybody's lying.
Poor Harold.
>> Now it's all real.
He's totally getting played.
Like, that's the only thing
that sucks.
>> I think there's something
happening here for sure.
>> Yeah.
Nothing sucks more
than people who lie.
I suddenly just
got really nervous.
>> Yoo-hoo.
What's up, man?
Is it cool if the guys come in?
>> Oh, yeah. Cool.
>> All right.
>> Got some good news,
and I've got some bad news.
I'm confused as [bleep],
basically.
>> We started with the phone
numbers.
Armani's old number brought us
back with an email address.
>> "2fly4u."
>> So we just did a Google
search for that email address,
and we got a couple things back,
and it's for someone
in Kankakee,
but their name is
Tamila [bleep].
>> Hmm.
Name doesn't ring a bell.
Ooh, uh--
>> Do you know
who this person is?
>> No.
>> The Google search
that we did for Tamila,
we also found this interesting,
like, BeRecruited page.
>> Basketball.
>> 5'11".
>> 5'11", which is what--right?
>> I haven't seen her, but yeah,
that's close enough.
>> 200 pounds.
>> That's more than me.
>> Is it?
>> Yeah.
>> What if this is Armani?
>> Hmm.
Might have
some difficulty there.
>> Why?
>> That picture
was stuck in my brain,
and when I see this picture,
it's, like, the complete
opposite of what's on
that picture.
But, like I said,
we're not 100% sure yet,
so I still--
just trying to hang in there.
>> So the next thing we did
was--you told us that you
got a friend request
from one of Armani's friends...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> That you didn't accept.
This girl Deshyla, right?
So I spoke to her,
and I asked her if she
knew someone named Armani.
She said, "Oh, yeah.
That's my friend."
>> "I was with her an hour ago,"
she said.
>> Yeah, she was with her,
she said.
>> Hmm.
>> And so I was like, "Oh,
does she have a son?"
She said, "Yeah.
She's got a newborn."
>> Deshyla also said
that the baby was Jrue.
>> Oh-whee. Ooh.
>> I said, "Do you ever
hear her talk about Harold?"
>> She's like, "Ha-ha.
She talks about Harold
all the time.
That's all she cares about."
>> Yeah,
and she confirmed everything
you think is true.
>> Right.
>> So the next thing we did--
you told us that this
Babay Gotem' Madd called you.
>> Yeah.
>> Right?
It says that she's
from Kankakee.
Does this girl appeal to you?
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, yeah?
>> Seriously?
>> She looks kind of tall.
She talks like that.
>> Yup.
>> With, like, two Qs?
>> Yeah.
>> And then wait.
Check this out.
>> Oh!
>> On August 26th.
>> "Jrue in his
Tommy Hilfiger hat!!"
>> It doesn't say, like,
"my nephew."
It doesn't say,
"my friend's kid."
It says just Jrue.
>> Hmm.
Now I'm thinking that maybe
that's not her friend.
Maybe that's her.
>> I can't understand why this
girl, who takes lots of pictures
and puts them online...
>> Wouldn't send me any.
>> Who's got a smartphone,
wouldn't be sending 'em to you.
>> No.
>> But you definitely
like this chick.
>> Oh, Jesus [bleep].
Sorry. It's physicality.
It's physicality for him.
It's it. That's it.
>> No, it's not, but, like--
>> I was rooting for you.
It's just, I'm having
trouble understanding
how you're gonna be able to,
one, as a person
who has, like, said
that you have trust issues--
Anyone that I've ever dated,
like, regardless of whether
it was on the Internet
or in person, had lied to me
about something
as simple their favorite color.
So if someone can lie to you
about something as small as a
name, then what else can they
lie to you about?
How are you, like,
making that okay in your head?
>> I mean, you have
to take into consideration
that everybody's not,
you know, perfect.
>> I would just think
that you're settling.
>> If we want to know who Armani
is, we need to call Armani,
if it's cool with you.
>> That's cool.
>> Because hopefully she's ready
to finally meet you too.
>> * Those places that I never
* Thought I'd go *
>> Well, here's the question.
You've been in this relationship
for so long,
and it's all been about,
like, an emotional connection
built on trust.
>> * But now that road
* Just crumbles as I talk
>> And you find out this girl,
no matter how fine she is,
hasn't been honest with you.
What does it matter
what she looks like?
>> She's still a liar.
>> Right.
>> And are you okay with that?
>> * So don't let the ones *
* That want to steal
* Your dreams
* They'll steal *
* Your dreams away
>> Okay, so this is arguably
the most awkward moment,
is making the call.
[exhales deeply]
Okay, ready?
>> I'm about to hyperventilate.
My heart's, like,
about to fall--
>> You're nervous?
>> I'm nervous.
>> I'm calling. It's calling.
[line ringing]
>> Hi. Is this Armani?
>> Yes, this is Nev Schulman.
Um, I am one of the hosts
of the show Catfish.
>> So I bet you can guess
why I'm calling.
>> I mean, come on.
I bet you could figure it out.
>> [laughs]
>> Yeah, that's right,
our man Harold.
The one thing kind of
that he really wants
almost more than anything
is to finally meet you,
so he asked
if we could help him out.
>> Well, yeah.
What is the deal
with your Facebook page?
>> How come you've never texted
Harold a picture of yourself?
>> All right.
Well, then I guess the question
is, how would you feel
about trying to meet up?
>> Okay.
>> Right...
>> So yeah,
so text me your info,
and I guess we'll see you
in a day or two.
>> Okay.
All right. Good-bye.
>> Okay, bye.
>> I'm just so confused
right now.
Like, I have no clue
who she could actually be.
>> And everything I asked her,
she had an answer for.
>> Perfect answer to.
>> Right, but she's down
to meet up with us.
At least we know we're going
to get an answer.
The only thing that could
possibly put his mind
to rest is just...
>> Meeting her.
It just--it scares me 'cause
it could go either way.
>> So did you make it
to your class?
>> I overslept.
>> What class was it?
Psychology?
>> African-American history.
>> Oh, you missed your own
[bleep].
[laughter]
Oh, my God.
Come on.
>> Well, back at the hotel,
we called her.
I just said, like, "Can we come
and see you?"
And she said, "Yes."
>> Wow.
>> There's still a lot
of questions,
but it looks like we'll get
the answers we need
when we just meet up with her.
Well, I think we should
hit the road.
>> I'm ready.
>> I'm feeling like she could be
anyone in the world.
>> There's Babay,
and there's Tamila,
and then there's also
just the Armani.
It could just be her.
Would you say that you feel
like you love this girl?
>> It feels like it.
I could have a bad day,
and I could call Armani,
and just makes me feel better.
We could be playing around,
talking about, like, gonna
get married in a few years.
>> You guys have talked about
that a little bit?
>> Yeah.
>> * Stop the car
* On the track
* Stoop to kiss me
* I can't kiss you back *
* Shed no tears
* For all the years
* You've made up *
* For what I lacked
>> I'm probably
more nervous than she is.
>> Go ahead and knock.
[knocking]
>> Ah.
>> We're lucky he's awake.
>> Good morning, my friend.
>> Good morning.
>> I have good news.
We just got an address,
finally, from Armani.
>> All right.
>> We're just a few minutes
away from that front door.
>> Let me touch your heart.
>> Yeah, it got a little fast.
>> Yeah. It's so close now.
>> Yeah.
I mean, that's very close.
>> Let's get to it.
Intense.
>> You seem pretty cool
about it, though.
>> Oh, it might seem
like that on the outside,
but inside, it's
a totally different story.
>> And now you're like,
"Who the hell is she?"
>> Yeah.
I've waited so long
just to figure out one thing,
to see if this girl's
real or not.
>> There's Babay,
and there's Tamila,
and then there's also
just the Armani.
>> Right.
>> It could just be her.
>> Heart racing.
Nervous.
Curious.
>> We're basically there.
I think it's this, like,
apartment building right here.
There it is.
Let's do it.
>> Let's get it.
>> All right.
>> She's in there somewhere.
>> I'm ready.
>> Looks sort of sketch
in there.
All right. I buzzed.
[siren blipping]
>> Oh.
>> Okay.
Hi.
>> Hello.
I'm Babay.
>> Babay, AKA Armani.
>> No, Armani's in the inside
right now.
>> What the [bleep]?
>> So you're not Armani?
>> No.
She's, like,
very nervous right now.
>> So is she coming out?
>> Definitely.
>> Well, now we don't know
what the hell
is coming out of that house.
Just be prepared
for anything, man.
>> Okay.
>> Holy crap.
>> Bae.
>> Armani?
>> Yeah.
>> All right. Come on out.
>> Hello.
>> Hi, how are you?
>> How are you?
>> Good. Nice to meet you.
>> Can I get a hug.
Hey, Harold.
>> How you doing?
>> Good.
Aw, can I get another hug?
I missed you.
Oh.
Hello.
>> "Ta-meela" [bleep]?
>> It's "Tam-ila."
>> I thought it was "Ta-meela."
>> No, it's "Tam-ila."
>> This is Angel, sorry.
>> Hello.
>> Here he is.
>> Hey, bae.
Was this what you was expecting?
>> You do have a son...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Named Jrue.
>> Mm-hmm.
Well, everything about me
is true, every single thing
that I told you,
except for, I guess,
that picture.
>> You started the Armani page
four or five years ago.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> And you used a picture
of some girl.
Do you know who that is or--
>> Mm-mm.
>> I mean, what made you want
to pick that picture?
>> Like, were you ever
gonna text him and say, "Hey,
I'm not the girl
you see in the pictures"?
>> Eventually, but--
Isn't that what you fell in love
with, a picture or me?
>> You know, mentally
and emotionally,
we had a good connection,
but then I thought
you were, like,
the person in that picture,
so I liked the physical
appearance too.
Yeah.
>> Right, and you thought I was
just this light-skinned girl.
>> Five years.
>> Not just that.
I mean, you know--
>> The picture thing.
>> What he's pissed about
is that, like--
>> That I pretended to be her?
>> You pretended to be
someone else.
He didn't say, "I only
like light-skinned girls."
>> That's his type, though.
[laughs]
>> You seem pretty lighthearted
about the whole situation.
>> [laughs]
>> You guys have sort of been
in on it together for a while.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Since high school.
>> I just really think
this [bleep] is petty.
He's not living his life
because you guys are [bleep]
with him on the Internet.
It's not fair.
It's petty as [bleep].
>> He blocked her, though.
>> You do your basketball.
>> Yeah,
but he doesn't date girls.
He doesn't do anything because
he's wrapped up in a telephone
conversation with you...
>> Well, he had a girlfriend.
>> Pretending to be
someone else.
>> True.
>> Except all of it.
>> Can we talk?
Just, like, take
a two-second break?
Here, let's just go regroup.
You're being very sweet
and hugging her,
and do you actually feel
like you're cool
and that you want to be friends
with her?
>> Just seeing how she was kind
of just okay with the whole
situation,
it's something that happens
every day or something.
>> It's a joke.
Damn.
>> Oops.
>> Okay, I'll walk over.
You guys want to come over,
chat a little bit more?
Is this where you live?
>> Oh, it's my cousin's house.
I can't go to my house 'cause
all the kids there and stuff,
so...
[laughs]
>> Man.
>> Hmm, got something
you want to say, Harold?
>> If it's cool, why don't you
guys just talk a little bit?
Most of your relationship,
it's just been you guys anyway.
Babay, you want to come chat
with us for a minute?
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Can I get another hug?
>> Nope.
>> You don't even want
to hug me no more.
Wow.
>> 'Cause now it's just,
like, sinking in.
>> Why's your friend
so insecure?
>> This takes it all the way
back to high school, you know?
She used to try to talk to boys.
They didn't want to talk to her,
so...
>> Anyways...
Oh, so you chicken, huh?
>> I don't need it.
>> Boy, please!
Can I walk away from him?
Bye.
I'm about to go over here.
>> 'Cause he said something
I didn't like.
>> She want to give me
20 minutes of...
>> No, he--
>> Yeah.
>> What?
>> Word.
>> Nothing.
>> What?
>> Okay.
>> I don't know about that.
>> Yeah, all right.
>> What?
>> He's just now finally
finding out a big part
of who you are.
Maybe for the moment,
we should just chill out,
figure something out
for tomorrow or something.
>> Sound good.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you, Babay.
>> I'm not shaking his hand.
He made me mad.
>> Okay.
See you later, ladies.
>> Bye.
>> This is [bleep] up.
>> Did she ask to give
you a [bleep] job?
>> Yes.
>> What the [bleep]?
>> You know back then
when the finals were going on,
the Heat were playing the Pacers
or whatever?
>> Okay.
>> She was like, "If the Heat
win, I'll give you [bleep]
for 20 minutes.
If the Pacers win,
you got to give me [bleep]
for 20 minutes."
>> Oh.
>> And then, okay,
the Heat won, so then she
was like, "Okay, I owe you."
>> Do you feel like you
know that person at all?
>> Not really.
How could you hold a lie
for so long
to somebody
you supposedly care about?
I always get lied to a lot.
>> Why do you think that is?
>> Too nice.
>> So what do you think
you want to do now?
>> To be honest, I kind of just
want to go play basketball
and just take my mind off of it.
That's really the only way
it will work.
>> Yeah, I think
that'll be cool.
>> Sure.
>> * Hey
* Don't color my heart *
* Blues and grays
* Don't tell me that I'm *
* Not okay
* Don't color my heart *
* With your shades
* Don't color my heart *
* 'Cause I'll make it through *
* Yeah, I'll make it through *
* No more tears for you
>> This episode of Catfish:
The TV Show continues now.
Have you texted at all
with Tamila?
>> She text me and said,
"You was mad at me.
I was nervous."
>> I definitely think
you need to sit down
and express yourself more.
>> Well, I guess we could
take a trip over there.
>> All right, you guys
ready to hash it out?
>> Hey.
>> Hey, Tamila.
>> Hello.
Hey, Harold.
>> What's up?
>> Here, you want
to have a seat?
>> Yeah.
>> How did you feel about
the way things went yesterday?
>> Horrible.
At the end, he was just treating
me like, "Yeah, whatever."
You probably thought I was just
laughing about the [bleep].
>> You pretty much were.
>> I wasn't, and you think I
felt good about that?
>> Yeah.
>> No.
>> Do you think of Armani
as a separate entity to you?
>> Like, it's certain stuff
I could say on Armani page
that I'm not comfortable
just saying myself.
Like, if I said something
about sex on my page,
I would probably--they'd be
like, "Why would you say that?"
But on her page, they'd be like,
"Yeah, that's true."
>> And you think it's in regards
to what she looks like?
>> Yeah, probably so,
and that's why I picked
a light-skinned girl
for her picture.
Got way more attention
than I would with
a dark-skinned picture.
>> One of the harshest realities
to come to is that, like...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> As a young, like,
black woman...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> You know, it feels
like you only get praise
if you're lighter.
You have to start
accepting yourself.
>> So it's easier said
than done.
>> I mean, I got rejected a lot.
>> The rejection
is not a good feeling.
>> I felt like that a lot,
but, I mean, you can't let it
hold you, like, down.
>> I'm just trying to just
be me from here on out.
>> That's got to suck,
having feelings for someone,
knowing that you can
never really be with them,
just pretending
like everything's okay.
>> Mm-hmm.
When you like a person so bad
and you know you can't
really be with them 'cause
you're a liar,
that's a harsh feeling,
and I kind of
probably messed it up.
>> You okay?
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Put yourself in it.
You have to feel pain to know
what love is.
>> We'll say good-bye.
Maybe you and Harold
should just talk for a minute.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Okay. Stand up.
>> Give me a hug.
>> Good to meet you.
>> Nice to meet you too.
>> Good luck with everything.
>> Thank you.
I love your swag.
>> Thanks.
>> All right, we'll, uh--
we'll wait for you in the car.
>> So what?
You finna go get you
another girlfriend
and won't talk to me no more?
>> You just lied to me
for four years.
I don't think
you deserve that from me.
>> I'm sorry, Harold.
>> I feel kind of dumb.
I'm opening up to you
about how I feel about stuff,
friends dying and...
>> Harold.
>> What up?
Say yes, bae.
>> No.
>> I mean, I think I'd be a--
a perfect girlfriend.
>> I can't talk
to a girl like that,
who's faking who she was
for four years.
>> * Could have replaced it
>> And if you really
wanted to know,
I think I really did love you.
Honestly, like, completely.
I think I really did.
>> * And this kind of fear
* It drags me under
* You're too good *
* For this, baby
* I'm nothing to no one *
* You'd do best to forget me *
>> Bye, Harold.
>> All right.
>> * When I wake up, shake me
>> Okay.
>> * I'm no good to no one *
* You'd do best to forget me *
* Before you regret me
>> "My relationship with Marcus
is beyond special to me.
I'm more than sure he's the one.
But we've never actually
spoken to each other on the
phone"?
>> This could be the biggest
family betrayal this show has
ever seen.
>> It hurts.
It really does.
>> He may not show up.
>> I don't wanna do this...
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