Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 2, Episode 3 - Ramon & Paola - full transcript

>> IS IT WEIRD TO, LIKE,

FINALLY BE DOING THIS?

>> THERE IT IS.

ALL RIGHT, MAN.

[tense music]

**

>> DO I NEED TO KNOCK AGAIN?

>> HI, I'M NEV.

AND THIS IS MY FILMMAKER BUDDY

MAX.

LAST YEAR, WE TRAVELED ACROSS



THE COUNTRY FIGURING OUT THE

TRUTH BEHIND ONLINE ROMANCES.

I'M READY TO COME MEET YOU.

DO YOU THINK YOU'RE REALLY

READY?

>> I'M DEFINITELY READY.

>> ALONG THE WAY, WE OPENED

DOORS TO SOME BIG SURPRISES.

>> WAIT, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS.

>> WE A MADE A FEW LOVE

CONNECTIONS...

>> IT FEELS AMAZING.

>> AND EVEN DID OUR FAIR SHARE

OF MENDING BROKEN HEARTS.



>> I'M SO HAPPY EVERY DAY WHEN I

WAKE UP NOW.

>> SUDDENLY, THE IDEA OF

CATFISHING--HIDING WHO YOU

REALLY ARE TO HOOK SOMEONE INTO

AN ONLINE RELATIONSHIP...

> PROBABLY A PAGEANT WINNER, A

MODEL.

WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT BY A

LOT OF YOU.

GOT AN E-MAIL HERE.

"WHO DID I REALLY FALL IN LOVE

WITH?"

SO MAX AND I ARE HEADED BACK OUT

ON THE ROAD...

MAX, WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO.

TO INVESTIGATE STORIES THAT SEEM

TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE...

>> I AM IN DEREK'S DRIVEWAY.

>> OR TOO WILD TO MAKE UP.

>> HE WAS CARJACKED.

AND HE WAS RAN OVER BY THE CAR.

>> JESUS, MAN.

WILL HOPE BECOME LOVE?

>> OH, MY GOD.

>> OR IS LOVE IN FOR A GIANT

SHOCK?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

>> YOU CAN BE SURE THAT MAX AND

I WILL FIND OUT ALL THE ANSWERS

?BECAUSE SOMETIMES, A LITTLE BIT

OF FICTION...

>> WOW, CATFISH CURVE BALL.

>> LEADS TO A WHOLE LOT OF

REALITY.

>> THINGS WILL NEVER BE THE

SAME.

>> [laughs]

>> ARE WE READY?

>> LET'S DO IT.

>> CATFISH THE MOVIE WAS MY

STORY.

CATFISH THE TV SHOW IS YOURS.

>> ALL RIGHT, WHO'S HUNGRY?

>> THIS APPLE IS SO GOOD.

>> GOD'S CANDY.

>> PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, "LOOK

AT THOSE ANIMALS EATING OFF THE

COUNTER IN A HOTEL.

THAT'S DISGUSTING."

AND THEY'RE RIGHT.

>> TWO GUYS SITTIN' IN A ROOM,

SHARIN' AN APPLE.

>> YOU READY TO DIVE INTO THE

NEXT STORY?

>> THE REAL QUESTION IS: ARE

THEY READY FOR US?

>> I GOT AN E-MAIL HERE FROM A

GUY NAMED RAMON.

SUBJECT IS "WHO DID I REALLY

FALL IN LOVE WITH??"

"NEV AND MAX, MY NAME IS RAMON.

I AM 19 YEARS OLD AND LIVE IN

BULLHEAD CITY, ARIZONA.

I MET THIS GIRL ON FACEBOOK

NAMED PAOLA.

SHE IS 20 YEARS OLD AND LIVES

IN DELTONA, FLORIDA.

I FELL IN LOVE, BUT WE HAVE

NEVER MET.

I LOVE HER BECAUSE I CAN BE

MYSELF WITH HER.

I REALLY HATE MY JOB AND WHERE

I LIVE.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY,

SHE'S BEEN THE ONLY PERSON I

REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING

TO."

WOW.

"MY FEAR IS THAT SHE'S GOING TO

BE A DIFFERENT PERSON.

SHE EVEN SAYS THAT SHE WAS

LYING ABOUT WHO SHE WAS, AND

THEN LATER SAID SHE WAS JUST

JOKING AND TESTING HOW MUCH I

LOVED HER."

HMM.

"WHAT WE HAVE, I'VE NEVER HAD

WITH ANY OTHER GIRLFRIEND.

THE CONNECTION WE HAVE IS REAL.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF SHE IS."

>> both: "PLEASE HELP."

>> LET'S GET THIS GUY ON THE

HORN AND SEE WHAT HE'S GOT TO

SAY ABOUT IT.

CAN YOU COME OVER...

>> HERE.

[dial tone buzzes]

>> HEY, WHAT'S UP, MAN?

>> WHAT'S UP, MAN?

>> WE JUST READ YOUR E-MAIL.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW KINDA

HOW YOU MET PAOLA.

>> WE STARTED TALKING LAST YEAR

ON FACEBOOK.

SHE POSTED ON ONE OF MY FRIEND'S

WALLS AND I STARTED MESSAGING

HER.

>> WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT HER?

>> SHE HAS AN AMAZING

PERSONALITY.

I CAN TALK TO HER ABOUT

ANYTHING.

I'VE NEVER HAD THAT FROM

ANYBODY.

BUT EVERY TIME I WANNA MEET HER

OR SOMETHING, SHE PULLS UP AN

EXCUSE.

AND THEN, EVENTUALLY GOT HER TO

GET ON SKYPE WITH ME.

AND IT WAS A COMPLETELY

DIFFERENT PERSON.

>> SO THE PERSON THAT YOU WERE

VIDEO CHATTING WITH WAS NOT THE

GIRL FROM THE PHOTOS?

>> YEAH, NOT AT ALL.

>> WOW.

WHEN YOU GUYS WERE VIDEO

CHATTING, DID YOU HAVE A CLEAR

VIDEO OF THIS GIRL?

>> IT WAS A BIT PIXELATED.

IT WASN'T THE BEST CONNECTION.

>> WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION?

>> I WAS SHOCKED.

AND I WAS UPSET, QUESTIONING WHY

SHE WOULD DO THAT TO ME.

THEN, SHE TEXTED ME SAYING THAT

SHE HAD HER COUSIN GET ON THE

CAMERA.

>> WHY DID SHE WANNA DO THAT?

>> SHE WANTED TO SEE IF I LOVED

HER FOR HER IS WHAT SHE WAS

SAYING, AND NOT FOR HER LOOKS.

>> BUT YOU HAD NEVER SEEN THAT

GIRL BEFORE, AND YOU NEVER SAW

HER AGAIN?

>> NO, NOT AT ALL.

>> YOU'RE STILL IN LOVE WITH

HER.

>> YEAH, I REALLY LOVE HER A

LOT.

I WANNA SEE WHO I FELL IN LOVE

WITH.

>> * MAYBE IN THE MIND

* IT'S A HELL OF A TIME *

* IN THE DARKNESS

>> I REALLY DON'T KNOW FOR SURE

WHO IT IS UNTIL I SEE WITH MY

OWN EYES.

>> WE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN.

>> I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

>> both: ALL RIGHT.

>> LATER, RAMON.

>> both: BYE.

>> THIS IS DEFINITELY A NEW ONE.

I MEAN, IT'S LIKE HE'S SEEN THE

FACE BEHIND THE MASK, IT SEEMS.

>> I DON'T KNOW.

HE JUST--HE'S SO HOPELESSLY IN

LOVE WITH THIS GIRL THAT EVEN

NOT KNOWING WHO SHE IS DOESN'T

REALLY MATTER.

>> WELL, LET'S GO.

ALL RIGHT, LITTLE GUY.

YOU'RE COMING WITH ME.

>> * I'VE BEEN IN LOVE *

* WITH LOVE

* AND THE IDEA OF SOMETHING

* BINDING US TOGETHER

>> RAMON LIVES DOWN THERE.

ARIZONA, GUYS.

>> SO HERE'S A GUY WHO'S SUPER

IN LOVE WITH THIS GIRL, EVEN

THOUGH HE'S--HE'S REACHING--

WHAT HE'S REACHING FOR IS

HOPELESS.

>> PART OF IT THAT SHE'S JUST

NOT FROM HERE.

AND, LIKE, HE WANTS TO GET OUTTA

HERE.

>> LET'S MEET RAMON.

[doorbell rings]

HEY, BUDDY.

>> HEY, WHAT'S UP, MAN?

>> WHAT'S UP, MAN?

>> HOW'S IT GOIN'?

>> both: GOOD, HOW ARE YOU?

>> GOOD TO MEET YOU.

>> YOU TOO.

>> SO YOU LIVE WITH YOUR DAD.

>> YEAH.

AND SINCE I DON'T HAVE A CAR,

HE GIVES ME A RIDE, LIKE, TO

WORK, AND FROM WORK, OR

WHATEVER.

>> WHERE DO YOU WORK?

>> AT ONE OF THE CASINOS OVER--

>> OH, FOR--YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

WHAT DO YOU DO THERE?

>> I'M A KITCHEN WORKER.

I START WORK AT 10 P.M.

>> AND WORK TILL...

>> 6 A.M.

>> GRAVEYARD SHIFT.

>> I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

SO LET'S HAVE A SEAT.

HELP US UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE IN

LOVE WITH THIS GIRL.

>> WHEN I WAKE UP, SHE'S THE ONE

THAT I THINK ABOUT.

WHEN I'M GOING TO SLEEP, I'LL

BE--BE THINKING ABOUT HER, YOU

KNOW?

PERFECT SMILE...

THE PERFECT EVERYTHING,

BASICALLY.

YOU KNOW, I JUST NEVER CAME

ACROSS ANYBODY IN MY LIFE LIKE

HER, THAT I COULD GET ALONG

WITH, AND JOKE AROUND WITH, AND

BE COMPLETELY MYSELF WITH.

>> FAST FORWARD TO THE VIDEO

CHAT.

>> YOU KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO GET

HER TO SHOW HERSELF.

SHE'S ONLY SHOWN, LIKE, RIGHT

HERE.

AND EVENTUALLY, SHE KINDA

SHOWED, LIKE, DOWN TO HERE.

AND THEN, SHE PUT IT BACK UP.

AND THEN, SHE TURNED THE CAMERA

OFF.

>> SO WAIT A SECOND.

YOU CAN ONLY SEE HER EYES.

AND THEN FOR A FEW SECONDS,

YOU SAW HER BODY.

AND THEN, THE CAMERA WENT BACK

UP.

>> YEAH.

>> BUT WHETHER OR NOT SHE IS

THAT GIRL OR NOT, AND THIS IS

ALL SOME STRANGE TEST TO SEE HOW

COMMITTED YOU ARE, LIKE, IT'S A

BAD THING TO DO.

>> YEAH, IT MESSED WITH MY HEAD

A LOT.

>> WELL, I'M REALLY CURIOUS TO

SEE HER FACEBOOK AND EVERYTHING.

SO LET'S CHECK IT OUT.

THIS IS HER PAGE.

PAOLA RODRIGUEZ.

>> DOES SHE HAVE AN INSTAGRAM

ACCOUNT?

>> HERE'S THE INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT.

>> WHAT'S THE NAME?

>> HOLA_PAOLA.

>> A LOT OF PICTURES OF HER

BUT MOSTLY OF THE SAME PHOTOS.

HAVE YOU EVER FOUND HER COUSIN'S

PROFILE?

>> LET'S SEE HERE.

LOYDA.

>> SHE LIVES IN DELTONA,

FLORIDA, WHICH WOULD MAKE SENSE

IF SHE WERE IN FACT COUSINS WITH

PAOLA.

>> IS THIS THE GIRL YOU SAW?

>> THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN.

>> GO BACK TO PAOLA'S FACEBOOK

PAGE.

WELL, THIS GIRL'S NAME IS

DEFINITELY PAOLA.

THE QUESTION IS: IS THIS THE

GIRL YOU'RE TALKING TO?

OH, SHE SAYS "BEING BROKE HAS

GOT TO BE ONE OF THE WORST

FEELINGS EVER."

WHAT'S PAOLA'S MONEY SITUATION?

>> SHE DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY

MONEY.

>> HAS SHE EVER ASKED YOU TO

HELP HER OUT?

>> NO, SHE WOULD JUST KINDA SAY

THAT HER PHONE WAS GONNA GET CUT

OFF OR SOMETHING.

AND THERE'S BEEN, LIKE, A COUPLE

TIMES WHERE I PAID THE PHONE

BILL.

I GOT HER A Wii.

AND THEN, I GOT HER A NEW PHONE.

>> WHAT ELSE HAVE YOU DONE?

>> I GAVE HER MY BANK

INFORMATION.

>> WHAT?

>> YEAH.

>> DUDE.

>> HAVE YOU EVER JUST SENT HER

MONEY?

>> YEAH.

I THINK ONE OF THOSE PREPAID

CARDS THAT YOU PUT MONEY ON.

>> HOW MUCH?

>> A COUPLE THOUSAND, MAYBE.

>> JESUS, MAN.

THAT'S CRAZY.

>> WHY DID YOU DO THAT?

>> I LOVE THE GIRL.

IT'S MY WAY OF SHOWING IT, YOU

KNOW?

>> YOU DON'T THINK THIS GIRL HAS

BEEN USING YOU?

>> NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

>> YOU COULD HAVE A CAR RIGHT

NOW.

>> WHAT IF IT'S THAT GIRL,

LOYDA?

WHAT IF THAT'S WHO YOU'VE BEEN

TALKING TO?

>> I WANNA SEE FOR MYSELF WHAT

THE TRUTH IS AND FIND OUT WHO

I'VE BEEN TELLING I LOVE YOU,

WHO I FELL IN LOVE WITH, YOU

KNOW?

SHE MAKES ME HAPPY.

I DO LOVE THE GIRL.

>> GOTTA RELAX.

WE'LL--WE'RE ON THE CASE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> YOU'RE GONNA GET ALL THE

ANSWERS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, I

PROMISE.

I MEAN, WHAT...

>> COME ON.

>> THE GUY IS...

>> COME ON.

>> IN LOVE.

HE'S [bleep] FREE-FALLING WITH

THIS CHICK.

>> THIS TAKES THE CAKE.

>> WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT

RAMON IS THAT HE'S SO INFATUATED

WITH PAOLA.

AND HE'S COMPLETELY WILLING TO

ACCEPT THIS LACK OF EVIDENCE

AND PROOF THAT SHE IS WHO SHE

SAYS SHE IS.

>> THIS IS A CLASSIC CASE OF

PEOPLE PROJECTING, LIKE, THEIR

FANTASY ONTO THE THINGS THAT

THEY DON'T KNOW.

>> BUT THIS COULD STILL END IN

AN AMAZING, LIFE-CHANGING

SCENARIO.

>> I DON'T KNOW.

>> THERE'S NO QUESTION.

RAMON HAS ALREADY BEEN GIVEN

A GIANT PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE.

WHAT WE NEED TO DO: GIVE HIM

CONCLUSIVE, INDISPUTABLE

EVIDENCE THAT PAOLA HAS BEEN

LYING TO HIM AND THAT SHE'S NOT

THE GIRL HE SOMEHOW AMAZINGLY

STILL HOPES SHE IS.

>> I THINK IT'S A PRETTY SAFE

ASSUMPTION THAT IT'S LOYDA.

BUT WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.

SHOULD WE START WITH PAOLA'S

PAGE?

>> SHE'S GOT 1,000 FOLLOWERS.

SHE WORKS AT SEPHORA.

>> A LOT OF POSTINGS ABOUT

RAMON.

WHY DON'T YOU TAKE THAT PHOTO

SO WE CAN IMAGE SEARCH IT?

NOTHING.

GRAB THAT ONE.

NOTHING'S COMING UP FOR THESE

IMAGES.

>> OH, LET'S GO TO THE INSTAGRAM

PAGE.

SO THIS IS, LIKE, A GOLD MINE

OF IMAGES.

IT'S JUST WEIRD THAT SHE'S SO

VOCAL ABOUT RAMON ON HER

FACEBOOK PAGE AND DOESN'T

MENTION HIM AT ALL IN HER

INSTAGRAM.

>> HOLA_PAOLA, THAT'S WHAT WE--

>> OH, YEAH, WE SHOULD

DEFINITELY SEARCH FOR THAT.

THERE, GO TO FACEBOOK

HOLA_PAOLA.

THAT'S HER.

PAOLA PROVOST.

ANOTHER PROFILE WITH THE SAME

GIRL.

>> WHAT IS THIS?

>> IN A RELATIONSHIP.

BUT THIS PROFILE FEELS MORE

LEGIT, AND SHE DOES NOT MENTION

RAMON.

I THINK THAT PAOLA PROVOST AND

THE HOLA_PAOLA INSTAGRAM ARE THE

SAME PERSON.

>> THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.

RAMON'S PAOLA, PAOLA RODRIGUEZ,

BASICALLY IS USING THIS WOMAN'S

PICTURES.

WE NEED TO SEND PAOLA PROVOST A

MESSAGE.

WE ROLL THE DICE THAT THIS IS A

DIFFERENT PERSON AND THAT

RAMON'S PAOLA'S COPYCATTING.

AND IF WE'RE RIGHT, WE GOT IT.

>> IF PAOLA PROVOST CAN VIDEO

CHAT WITH US...

THIS PAOLA COULD BE THE REAL

PAOLA.

WE CANNOT TALK TO RAMON UNTIL WE

HAVE AN ANSWER.

>> [sighs]

>> DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING?

>> I HAVE A MESSAGE ON FACEBOOK

FROM PAOLA PROVOST.

SHE SAID, "HEY, I'D LOVE TO

CHAT."

WE NEED TO RECORD THIS SO THAT

WE CAN SHOW RAMON.

>> RIGHT, AND WE'RE GONNA GO SEE

RAMON.

AND WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GIVE

HIM SOME ANSWERS.

[dial tone buzzes]

HELLO.

>> HI.

>> CAN YOU SEE US?

>> HEY, PAOLA.

OKAY.

>> HEY.

>> THERE YOU ARE.

>> HI.

>> WOW, YOU LOOK BEAUTIFUL.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE'RE HELPING A YOUNG MAN

NAMED RAMON WHO, FOR THE LAST

EIGHT MONTHS, HAS BEEN HAVING A

RELATIONSHIP WITH A GIRL NAMED

PAOLA RODRIGUEZ.

>> OKAY.

>> AND PAOLA LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE

YOU.

>> HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THIS

GUY?

>> both: NO.

>> SOMEONE BASICALLY IS USING

YOUR NAME AND YOUR PICTURES ON

MULTIPLE SOCIAL NETWORKING

PLATFORMS.

>> AWESOME.

>> THIS GUY RAMON IS, LIKE,

CRAZY IN LOVE WITH YOU.

I MEAN, HE'S IN LOVE WITH THE

GIRL HE TALKS TO.

BUT IT'S YOUR PICTURE.

WHAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IS

IF YOU COULD GIVE US, LIKE, ONE

LITTLE SOUND BITE THAT WE COULD

SHOW RAMON TO JUST COMPLETELY

PROVE THAT YOU'VE NEVER SPOKEN

TO OR HAVE ANY IDEA WHO RAMON--

>> IS?

WELL, I HAVE A BOYFRIEND.

I HAVE A LIFE HERE.

AND HE HAS NOT BEEN TALKING TO

ME.

I'M SORRY TO HIM.

>> YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HELPFUL

THAT IS.

>> ADIOS, PAOLA.

>> CIAO.

>> GOOD-BYE.

OKAY.

>> [sighs]

ALL RIGHT.

>> DO YOU THINK RAMON'S GONNA BE

SURPRISED?

>> I THINK HE'S GONNA BE

SHOCKED 'CAUSE HE HASN'T FULLY

ACCEPTED REALITY.

NOW, WE HAVE PROOF.

WE'VE GOT THE HEARTBREAKER.

>> I THINK RAMON'S BEEN KINDA

HOLDING ON TO THAT EMBER OF

HOPE.

>> THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE

CAN DO RIGHT NOW IS PREP HIM FOR

WHAT WILL INEVITABLY BE A

BUMMER.

>> SO SOFTEN THE BLOW.

>> YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

WE DO HAVE SOME THINGS TO SHOW

YOU.

BUT BEFORE WE DO, I JUST WANTED

TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, LIKE,

YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH PAOLA

IS GOING TO CHANGE AFTER WE SHOW

YOU THIS STUFF.

>> I THINK I'M READY FOR

WHATEVER IT IS.

>> ALL RIGHT.

LET'S DO IT.

THIS IS PAOLA'S INSTAGRAM.

YOU FOLLOW THIS INSTAGRAM.

>> THIS SEEMS TO THE BIGGEST

TROVE OF IMAGES FOR PAOLA.

>> YEAH.

LET'S NOTICE THAT THE NAME OF

THE INSTAGRAM IS HOLA_PAOLA.

>> WE DID A SEARCH FOR

HOLA_PAOLA.

AND WE FOUND PAOLA PROVOST.

SHE'S GOT LOTS OF FRIENDS, LOTS

OF PICTURES.

FEELS LEGIT.

THE PERSON THAT YOU'RE TALKING

TO, WHO'S DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB

OF--OF LOOKING AT THE REAL

PAOLA'S INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK,

AND BASICALLY PULLING

INFORMATION...

>> AND--AND TAKING ELEMENTS

FROM THE REAL PAOLA'S LIFE, AND

INCORPORATING THEM INTO HER LIFE

TO--TO SYNC EVERYTHING UP.

>> WE SENT THIS PAGE,

THE PAOLA PROVOST, A MESSAGE.

SHE MET US ON VIDEO CHAT.

AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH

HER.

>> HI, RAMON.

THIS IS PAOLA.

I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW

THAT I'M VERY, VERY SORRY.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE PERSON

THAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING TO

HAS NOT BEEN ME.

>> * HOLD ONTO YOUR BELIEF

>> YOU HAVE NOT BEEN IN A

RELATIONSHIP WITH ME AT ALL.

>> * I SEE YOU

*LOOKIN' THROUGH ME *

>> I DO HOPE THAT YOU FIND THE

ONE FOR YOU.

>> * HOLD ON TO YOUR BELIEF

>> IT CHANGES EVERYTHING.

I THINK IT'S [bleep] UP.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, SHE'S BEEN

LYING THE WHOLE DAMN TIME.

WHY DID SHE LIE IN THE FIRST

PLACE?

WHY DID SHE LET IT GET EVEN

PAST, LIKE, A COUPLE WEEKS?

>> I MEAN, IT'S INCREDIBLY

SELFISH.

>> YEAH.

>> WHAT DO YOU NEED?

WHAT DO YOU WANT?

>> I WANT TO SEE THIS PERSON,

WHOEVER IT IS, WHO'S USED ME,

AND LIED TO ME, AND WHO I FELL

IN LOVE WITH.

WHOEVER THIS PERSON IS, I TALK

WITH THEM, AND ADDRESS

EVERYTHING, AND TELL 'EM THAT

THAT WAS [bleep] UP WHAT YOU

DID.

>> I-I THINK THE BEST THING

WOULD BE FOR ME TO CALL HER.

>> IT'S TIME TO MAKE THAT

MEETING HAPPEN.

>> I WANNA SEE THIS PERSON WITH

MY OWN EYES.

[dial tone buzzes]

>> HEY.

MY NAME IS NEV, AND I'M MAKING A

SHOW CALLED CATFISH.

I'M HERE WITH A-A YOUNG GUY

NAMED RAMON, WHO I--WHO I'M

PRETTY SURE YOU KNOW BECAUSE HE

GAVE ME YOUR NUMBER.

YEAH.

HE--HE'S--I'M NOT SURE HOW TO

PUT THIS EXACTLY.

BUT I'M NOW AWARE, AS IS RAMON,

THAT YOU ARE NOT THE PERSON

YOU'VE SAID THAT YOU ARE.

AND HE REALLY HAS NO IDEA WHO

THE GIRL IS THAT HE'S BEEN

SAYING "I LOVE YOU" TO FOR THE

LAST EIGHT MONTHS.

DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY NAMED LOYDA?

>> NAMED WHAT?

>> LOYDA.

>> NO.

>> I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO

YOU ARE.

AND I'M HOPING THAT MAYBE YOU

CAN GIVE ME SOME ANSWERS.

SO IS THIS LOYDA?

OH, OKAY.

MAYBE WE CAN END UP BRINGING YOU

GUYS FACE-TO-FACE TO MEET

SOMEWHERE, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT

HE WANTS.

>> UM...

>> THIS IS A REALLY BIG DEAL.

I MEAN, WE'RE--WE'RE TALKING

ABOUT SOMEONE'S LIFE.

THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO HAS

COMPLETELY DEDICATED THEMSELVES

TO YOU, EMOTIONALLY,

FINANCIALLY.

I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND

WHAT I'M TRYING TO COMMUNICATE--

RAMON IS NOW VERY HURT.

HE LOVES YOU.

IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS, WOULD

YOU BE WILLING TO CLEAR YOUR

SCHEDULE AND REALLY MAKE TIME TO

BE WITH US?

ARE YOU STILL THERE?

I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE WILLING

TO DO THIS.

UM, AND GOOD NIGHT.

[doorbell rings]

>> LET'S GO, YOU GOT YOUR BAGS

PACKED?

>> YEAH, THEY'RE RIGHT HERE.

>> WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU

WENT ON A BIG TRIP?

>> OH, BAR FAR?

>> YEAH.

>> BACK WHEN I WAS IN HIGH

SCHOOL.

>> * SAW THE WAY

* THAT WE HIT THE GROUND

>> FIVE MORE HOURS, WE'LL BE ONE

STEP CLOSER.

FROM ARIZONA TO FLORIDA.

A-Z TO F-L.

>> WHAT'S THAT?

>> *OOH *

* OOH

* OOH

>> YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE READY

TO CONFRONT THIS PERSON?

>> YEAH.

DEFINITELY.

WITHIN THOSE EIGHT MONTHS, I

COULDA DID A LOT MORE WITH MY

LIFE.

I DID LOVE THE GIRL.

I DID.

>> THERE IT IS.

[sighs]

ALL RIGHT, MAN.

[tense music]

**

>> OKAY.

>> DO I NEED TO KNOCK AGAIN?

>> [sighs]

HI, RAMON.

>> I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT YOUR

NAME IS LOYDA?

>> YEAH.

>> I HAVE A LOT TO SAY TO YOU.

FIRST OFF, I DON'T UNDERSTAND

HOW--EVEN AFTER ME BUYING YOU

ALL THOSE THINGS AND BEING

THERE FOR YOU AND STUFF, HOW

YOU KEEP LYING TO ME, HOW YOU

KEPT IT GOING.

AND I GAVE YOU A LOT OF TIME

TO TELL ME THE TRUTH.

AND YOU KEPT ON LYING TO ME.

YOU BASICALLY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF

ME, AND THAT'S PRETTY [bleep]

UP.

LIKE, CAN YOU TELL ME WHY YOU

EVEN MADE THAT FAKE PROFILE?

>> BOREDOM.

I HONESTLY WASN'T LOOKING TO

MEET ANYBODY OFF OF IT.

I WAS JUST BORED AND MADE A FAKE

PROFILE.

>> YOU JUST--THAT'S IT?

NOTHING ELSE?

>> I'M SORRY.

I MEAN...

>> ALL THAT MONEY I SPENT ON

YOU, ARE YOU GONNA PAY ME BACK?

YOU GONNA GIVE ME THE STUFF?

WHAT?

>> YOU WANNA TAKE THE STUFF?

>> YEAH.

>> [laughs]

>> I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW

WE CAME A LONG WAY SO THAT YOU

GUYS CAN MEET.

I THINK RAMON DESERVES AN

EXPLANATION.

>> I DIDN'T THINK ANY--ANY

RELATIONSHIP WAS GONNA FORM WITH

HIM.

ALL OF IT WAS REAL.

JUST THAT--THE APPEARANCE,

THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WAS

FAKE.

OKAY?

YES, IT WAS.

YES, IT WAS.

>> IT'S NOT RIGHT.

>> I KNOW IT'S NOT RIGHT.

>> STILL...

>> YOU SPENT OVER 3,000 FRICKIN'

DOLLARS ON ME.

DO YOU NOT THINK I DON'T FEEL

BAD?

I'M SURROUNDED BY THAT [bleep]

EVERY SINGLE DAY.

>> YOU COULDN'T HAVE, LIKE,

CAME CLEAN AFTER ALL THAT

IF YOU FELT BAD?

>> I TRIED TO COME CLEAN.

>> YOU TRIED TO COME CLEAN.

>> YOU KNOW I TRIED TO COME

CLEAN.

YOU KNOW I TRIED TO COME CLEAN.

PLEASE DON'T.

YOU KNOW I TRIED TO COME CLEAN

TO YOU SEVERAL TIMES.

>> AND YOU DIDN'T.

>> YES, I DID.

YOU WERE ACTING ALL SAD.

YOU KNEW.

>> I KNEW WHAT?

>> YOU KNEW THAT I TRIED TO COME

CLEAN BEFORE.

>> IS IT ALL RIGHT IF WE ALL

COME IN?

>> YEAH.

HE KNOWS MY FULL NAME, THOUGH HE

PROBABLY WILL CLAIM THAT HE

FORGOT IT.

HE KNOWS--HE HEARD MY BIRTHDAY.

HE'S SEEN MY DRIVER'S LICENSE.

YOU'VE SEEN ME.

WE FACETIMED.

WE SKYPED.

YOU CALLED ME BY MY NAME BEFORE.

>> IS THAT TRUE?

>> YEAH.

NOW THAT I--

>> WHAT THE HELL?

>> MM-HMM, YEAH, THERE WERE

MULTIPLE TIMES WHERE HE HAD SEEN

ME.

HE KNEW THAT IF I WASN'T PAOLA,

HE KNEW THAT THIS WAS WHAT HE

WAS GONNA GET, WHETHER HE WANTS

TO ACT LIKE HE DOESN'T KNOW OR

NOT.

>> IT'S A LITTLE WEIRD THAT YOU

DIDN'T TELL US THAT YOU GOT--

THAT SHE WENT TO SUCH--SHE--

I MEAN, YOU'VE ONLY TOLD US THAT

SHE ONCE SAID SOMETHING, AND--

>> THAT YOU ONLY SAW HER FROM

HERE UP.

>> NO, HE SAW ME.

HE SAW ME.

>> HOW MUCH OF WHAT SHE'S

TELLING US RIGHT NOW IS ACCURATE

ABOUT THE FACT THAT SHE TRIED

MULTIPLE TIMES TO EXPLAIN TO YOU

WHO SHE REALLY WAS?

>> YEAH, THAT DID HAPPEN.

I BARELY REMEMBER.

>> WHAT, BARELY REMEMBER THAT?

>> WE SAT WITH YOU FOR HOURS

TRYING TO EXTRACT STUFF FROM

YOU.

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAD KINDA

MET HER.

A COUPLE TIMES.

>> YEAH, I DIDN'T WANNA BELIEVE

IT.

I DIDN'T.

THAT'S ALL.

[tense music]

*

>> I'M HAVING A HARD TIME

UNDERSTANDING AND JUSTIFYING HOW

YOU KIND OF CONVINCED YOURSELF

ALL ALONG THAT THERE WAS SOME

GLIMMER OF CHAN--OF HOPE THAT

THIS COULD BE THE REAL GIRL?

>> YEAH, THAT I SAID THAT I WAS

MY COUSIN LATER ON BECAUSE I

DIDN'T WANT HIM TO KEEP BEING

HURT.

HE WAS CRYING.

>> YEAH, YOU DID [bleep] SAY

THAT AND LIE TO ME AGAIN.

>> YOU WOULD BE UPSET.

AND IT WOULD JUST HURT ME TO--

I HATE TO SEE HIM UPSET, SO--

>> YOU SHOULD'VE JUST LET IT BE.

>> I KNOW IT DOES NOT JUSTIFY

IT, OKAY?

I KNOW.

>> H-HOW MANY SEPARATE OCCASIONS

DID YOU KIND OF BACKTRACK AND

SAY, "OH, ACTUALLY, I-I KNOW?

THAT'S MESSED UP, BUT THAT

WAS--"

>> THAT WAS, LIKE, THREE TIMES

THAT I CAME CLEAN.

>> SO--SO ON EACH OF THE THREE

TIMES, YOU--

>> I BACKTRACKED.

AND THE VERY LAST ONE, HE KEPT

TEXTING, SAYING "PLEASE TELL ME

THIS IS A LIE," PUTTING ALL

THESE SAD FACES.

LIKE, WHAT DO YOU W--I DIDN'T

WANT--I KNEW THAT HE WAS

HURTING.

AND I DIDN'T WANT THAT.

>> YOU SHOULD'VE JUST STAYED

WITH THE TRUTH.

YOU REALLY MESSED UP MY HEAD A

LOT.

>> HE WANTED TO KEEP THINKING HE

WAS TALKING TO PAOLA.

>> AND YOU KIND OF KEPT GIVING

HIM A REASON TO THINK IT COULD

BE?

>> YEAH.

HE CHOSE TO BELIEVE WHAT HE

CHOSE TO BELIEVE.

>> WERE YOU AFRAID THAT IF YOU

SHOWED HIM WHO YOU REALLY

WERE...

>> JUST BECAUSE I KNEW WHEN I

FIRST MET HIM, I HAD A LOW

SELF-ESTEEM.

SO I FIGURED--YEAH.

AND I WAS AFRAID OF LOSING HIM.

YOU KNOW, MY INTENTIONS WERE

NEVER TO HURT YOU.

BUT IT DID HAPPEN.

AND I KNOWINGLY PUT YOU THROUGH

THAT.

I AM SORRY.

EVERYTHING WAS REAL EXCEPT FOR

THE APPEARANCE AND THE NAME.

THERE WAS A UNEXPLAINABLE

CONNECTION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

I WAS ABLE TO TELL HIM

EVERYTHING.

I'VE TOLD HIM THINGS THAT I'VE

NEVER TOLD EVEN MY BEST FRIEND--

MY BEST, BEST, BEST FRIEND.

LIKE, I JUST HAD THAT--

I HAD ALL THAT TRUST IN HIM.

SO...

>> SO YOU'VE CONSIDERED RAMON TO

BE YOUR BOYFRIEND FOR THE LAST

SEVEN MONTHS?

>> SEVEN MONTHS.

YEAH.

>> AND YOU LOVE HIM--IN LOVE

WITH HIM?

>> IT HAPPENED.

I DIDN'T...

>> I MEAN, BOTH OF YOU HAVE BEEN

A VERY ACTIVE PART OF THIS

MESSED-UP RELATIONSHIP.

>> I MEAN, YOU'RE RIGHT.

>> I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO SAY.

>> OKAY.

WELL, IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE

TO SAY, I THINK WE SHOULD GO.

>> THANKS FOR MEETING US.

>> BYE, BYE. NO PROBLEM.

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA SEE

THIS.

AND THEY'RE GONNA S--THEY'RE

GONNA ASK, WHY WAS THIS GUY IN

THIS RELATIONSHIP?

SHE TOLD HIM SHE WAS LYING

MULTIPLE TIMES.

>> HONESTLY, I DIDN'T WANNA LOSE

HER.

>> YEAH, HE'S THE LOVE OF MY

LIFE.

I DON'T WANT HIM TO LEAVE.

I KNOW THAT ONCE--ONCE HE'S

GONE, HE'S GONE.

AND THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO TO

FIX THAT.

>> I DIDN'T HAVE, LIKE, A REAL

SOCIAL LIFE, LIKE, GO OUT AND

ACTUALLY HANG OUT WITH PEOPLE.

SHE'S SOMEBODY I COULD RELY ON

FOR ADVICE, FOR GOOD ADVICE.

>> SO SHE WAS YOUR ONLY REAL

FRIEND?

>> YEAH.

>> DID YOU DO ANY THINKING LAST

NIGHT?

>> THERE'S SOME WEIRDNESS TO ALL

OF THIS.

>> YEAH, THERE'S A WHOLE 'NOTHER

SIDE OF THIS STORY THAT PAINTS

RAMON TO BE SOMEONE WITH A VERY

SELECTIVE MEMORY, WHO KNEW FOR

THE LAST FOUR MONTHS THAT PAOLA

WAS LOYDA BUT DIDN'T WANT TO

ACCEPT IT.

>> IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO FRIEND

LOYDA ON FACEBOOK AND JUST TRY

TO SEE WHAT WE CAN LEARN ABOUT

HER.

HERE SHE IS.

FRIEND REQUEST SENT.

>> YEAH.

>> ALL RIGHT.

SHE DID.

>> WE ARE INTO HER PAGE.

SHE'S STUDYING CRIMINAL JUSTICE,

WORKED AT MCDONALD'S.

>> OH, MY GOD.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

>> WHAT IS THAT?

>> [sighs]

"MY NEW RING."

"TO MY LOVE LOYDA, UNTIL I SEE

YOU SOON.

I LOVE YOU SO MUCH.

CAN'T WAIT TO SPEND THE REST OF

OUR LIVES TOGETHER."

>> WHAT?

>> FROM RAMON.

WAIT A SECOND.

>> WHOA.

>> AND THEN SOMEONE ELSE WROTE,

"GOD BLESS YOUR RELATIONSHIP

TODAY, TOMORROW, AND ALWAYS.

LOVE YOU GUYS."

THAT'S HER MOM?

>> SO THE MOM IS CONVINCED RAMON

SENT THE RING.

>> DID RAMON PROPOSE TO PAOLA?

>> WE GOTTA ASK HIM.

>> HOW'D YOU SLEEP?

>> OKAY.

>> SO I FRIEND REQUESTED LOYDA.

FIGURED MAYBE WE COULD CHECK OUT

HER PROFILE AND JUST GET TO KNOW

HER BETTER.

AND SHE ACCEPTED MY FRIEND

REQUEST.

AND WE WERE SCROLLING THROUGH

HER PICTURES.

AND WE GOT TO THIS PICTURE.

IT SAYS, "MY NEW RING."

>> "FROM RAMON."

THAT'S PRETTY CREEPY.

>> DID YOU SEND THAT--

>> both: NO.

>> THAT WASN'T ME.

>> DID YOU SEND THAT RING?

>> NO, I NEVER SENT HER A RING.

>> NEVER, EVER SENT HER A RING?

>> NEVER, EVER, EVER.

>> YOU'RE ENGAGED.

>> I'M NOT ENGAGED.

>> ACCORDING TO FACEBOOK, YOU

ARE.

>> THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

>> IT--YOU--YOU MIGHT HAVE GIVEN

HER MONEY FOR HER TO BUY HERSELF

A RING.

>> DID YOU GIVE HER MONEY IN

OCTOBER?

>> I MIGHT HAVE.

>> YOU KIND OF DID BUY HER AN

ENGAGEMENT RING.

I THINK WE SHOULD CALL HER AND

FIGURE THIS OUT.

[dial tone buzzes]

>> HELLO?

I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A

LOT OF THINGS.

WHO'S AT YOUR HOUSE?

CAN WE GO OVER THERE TODAY?

SOON? LIKE, RIGHT NOW?

ALL RIGHT, I'LL SEE YOU THEN.

>> HI.

>> HELLO.

>> HI.

>> HELLO.

>> LOYDA.

>> LOYDA, NEV.

>> JUAN.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US OVER.

>> OH, YOU WELCOME.

>> YOUR DAUGHTER'S BEEN HAVING A

RELATIONSHIP WITH RAMON FOR

QUITE SOME TIME NOW.

HE WANTED TO COME OVER HERE AND,

YOU KNOW, ASK YOU GUYS SOME

QUESTIONS JUST SO WE COULD TRY

TO WALK AWAY FROM THIS AT LEAST

KNOWING SORT OF THE WHOLE

PICTURE.

AS FAR AS YOU KNEW, YOUR

DAUGHTER WAS IN A RELATIONSHIP

WITH RAMON.

>> YES.

>> DID YOU KNOW THAT SHE WAS

PRETENDING TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE?

>> YES.

I WAS AWARE OF THE WHOLE THING.

>> THIS IS MY SISTER, AND I LOVE

HER TO DEATH, BUT I-I-I'MA SAY

IT REGARDLESS.

LOYDA FLAT-OUT LIED TO RAMON.

>> THIS GUY WAS SENDING GIFTS,

VERY GENEROUS GIFTS.

>> HE WANTED TO.

>> SURE, HE WANTED TO.

DIDN'T IT BOTHER YOU THAT

THERE WAS A GUY WHO WAS SENDING

YOUR DAUGHTER LOTS OF THINGS,

AND HE THOUGHT HE WAS SENDING IT

TO SOMEBODY ELSE?

>> NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

CUT IT RIGHT THERE.

WHEN HE STARTED SENDING HER

EXPENSIVE GIFTS LIKE, FOR

EXAMPLE, THE Wii, LOYDA

MENTIONED TO ME, "MOMMY, I THINK

THIS IS GOING TOO FAR."

SHE DECIDE TO TELL HIM THE

TRUTH.

AND HE STOPPED HER AND TOLD HER,

"I DON'T WANNA HEAR IT."

>> I DIDN'T WANNA GET THAT FACE

OUT OF MY HEAD, AND EVERYTHING,

THAT NAME.

WELL, WE LOOKED AT YOUR PAGE,

YOUR REAL PAGE, AND FOUND

A PICTURE OF A RING AND A

MESSAGE THAT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS

FROM ME.

>> HE SENT HER THAT RING.

>> I NEVER SENT HER A RING AT

ALL.

>> WHEN LOYDA OPEN THE ENVELOPE,

IT HAD YOUR NAME ON IT.

YOU DID SEND THAT TO HER, RAMON.

>> I NEVER SENT HER A RING.

>> IF HE SAYING HE DIDN'T SEND

IT, SORRY TO TELL YOU, RAMON:

SOMEBODY PRETEND TO BE HIM, AND

HE DOESN'T KNOW?

>> LOYDA, YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN

THAT TO YOUR MOM FOR US?

>> WHAT?

>> HOW THAT ALL HAPPENED?

>> WHAT HAPPENED?

>> both: THE RING.

>> RAMON GAVE YOU MONEY.

>> IT WAS BIRTHDAY MONEY.

>> YOU WENT ONLINE.

YOU BOUGHT YOURSELF A RING.

YOU MAILED IT TO YOURSELF.

AND THEN, IN FRONT OF YOUR

MOTHER, YOU LIED TO HER AND TOLD

HER HE HAD SENT IT TO YOU.

AM I WRONG?

>> ARE YOU SURPRISED, THOUGH,

THAT--THAT SHE SENT THE RING?

>> WHATEVER.

>> NO, NOT--NOT WHATEVER.

IT'S IMPORTANT.

THESE DETAILS ARE IMPORTANT--

>> NO, WHATEVER.

>> YOU'RE NOT REALLY HEARING--

>> NO, YES, I AM.

>> NO, YOU'RE NOT.

>> YES, I AM.

>> YOUR DAUGHTER'S A LIAR.

>> MY DAUGHTER'S A LIAR?

WHAT ABOUT RAMON?

>> RAMON HAS HIS OWN ISSUES TO

DEAL WITH, OKAY?

>> I-I-I CAN SEE THAT.

>> AND PART OF WHAT I HOPE WE

CAN DO TODAY IS EVERYBODY ADMITS

THEIR ISSUES.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE THIS

OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE

RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT YOU'VE

DONE.

SAME TO YOU, OKAY?

I'M JUST HERE TO TRY AND

ENCOURAGE BOTH OF YOU TO BE

HONEST WITH YOURSELVES.

>> LET ME EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO

YOU.

FORGET THAT THEY'RE HERE FOR A

MINUTE.

FORGET EVERYTHING IS HERE RIGHT

NOW, JUST ME AND YOU.

EVER SINCE MY DAD DIED, AND MY

GRANDPA DIED LESS THAN A YEAR

LATER, MY LIFE HAS BEEN HELL.

AND WHEN I MET HIM, IT WAS ALL

SUNSHINE.

IT WAS HAPPY.

FOR THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS, I'VE

BEEN THE HAPPIEST I'VE EVER

BEEN.

SHOULD I HAVE TOLD HIM THE TRUTH

THEN?

YEAH, I SHOULD'VE.

BUT I DIDN'T, AND THAT WAS MY--

MY MISTAKE.

I WANT YOU IN MY LIFE.

I DON'T WANNA LOSE YOU.

I AM SORRY FOR LYING TO YOU FROM

THE VERY BEGINNING.

I AM SORRY.

>> YOU WANTED TO MEET THE GIRL

THAT YOU FELL IN LOVE WITH.

YOU HAVE NOW MET THE GIRL THAT

YOU FELL IN LOVE WITH.

WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO NOW?

>> NOW THAT I'M HERE AND I HAVE

THIS OPPORTUNITY, PROBABLY TO

SPEND SOME TIME AND SEE HOW IT

IS, SEEING YOUR REAL FACE,

SEEING WHO YOU REALLY ARE.

IS THAT OKAY?

>> OKAY.

>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET OUT OF

YOUR WAY.

>> AND NOW, MORE CATFISH

THE TV SHOW.

STICK AROUND.

>> YOU KNOW MY INTENTION WAS

NEVER TO HURT YOU.

>> I FEEL BETTER NOW THAT THE

TRUTH IS ALL OUT THERE.

>> MM-HMM.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'VE WANTED FOR,

LIKE, THE LONGEST TIME.

ALL THAT LYING AND--OBVIOUSLY, I

DON'T LOVE THAT.

BUT IT'S IN THE PAST.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A

RELATIONSHIP, BUT I STILL DON'T

WANNA LOSE YOU AS A FRIEND.

YOU'RE, LIKE, ONE OF MY BEST

FRIENDS.

>> GUESS WE'LL JUST BE FRIENDS.

>> YOU DON'T SOUND TOO CONFIDENT

IN THAT AT ALL.

>> WELL, WE'LL BE FRIENDS.

[sighs]

I WANT, MORE THAN ANYTHING, FOR

YOU TO STILL BE IN MY LIFE.

>> COME ON OVER HERE.

THANKS FOR THIS WEIRD, WILD

ROLLER COASTER OF A WEEK.

I'M NOT SURE I'LL EVER REALLY

UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU GUYS

HAVE.

BUT HOPEFULLY, THERE'S A QUALITY

FRIENDSHIP.

>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'LL TALK TO

YOU LATER.

OKAY, THANKS.

>> LET'S TAKE A PICTURE.

>> *I'M SORRY I LEFT YOU *

* THE WAY THAT I CAME

* SWEETHEART, YOU PUT DOWN

* YOU LOVABLE MAN

* I LEFT YOU TO DO

* WHAT I CAN'T *

* TO SHOW YOU YOU'RE SPECIAL *

* WITH YOU ALWAYS OUT

* I'LL BE GOOD ENOUGH AGAIN *

* 'CAUSE YOU DESERVE BETTER *

* THAN TO HAVE TO WAIT FOR ME

[dial tone buzzes]

>> THERE HE IS.

>> WOW, FACIAL HAIR.

>> YEAH.

>> [sighs]

HOW YA DOIN'?

>> REAL GOOD.

>> LOOKING BACK NOW ON THIS

WHOLE EXPERIENCE AND THE WHOLE

RELATIONSHIP, WHAT'D YOU LEARN

FROM IT?

>> IT WAS SOMETHING TO BE MORE

RESPONSIBLE ABOUT STUFF THAT I

SHOULDN'T GIVE OUT.

>> WHAT'S GOING ON NOW WITH YOU

AND LOYDA?

YOU GUYS BEEN TALKIN'?

>> NO.

SHE HAS, LIKE, A BOYFRIEND

RIGHT NOW.

>> DOES THAT HURT YOUR FEELINGS?

>> [laughs]

NO.

>> ALL RIGHT, MAN, WELL, IT WAS

GOOD CATCHING UP WITH YOU.

>> YOU GUYS TAKE CARE.

HELLO, LOYDA.

>> LOYDA.

>> HI.

>> HOW IS EVERYTHING?

>> I MET SOMEBODY AND THINGS ARE

GOING WELL.

>> DID YOU MEET HIM AS LOYDA?

OR DID YOU MEET HIM AS PAOLA?

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY YOURSELF

RINGS AND SEND THEM TO YOURSELF

ANYMORE.

>> [laughs]

NO, NO.

>> YOU'VE BEEN PAYING HIM BACK?

>> MM-HMM, YEAH.

>> WELL, THAT'S, I THINK, A BIG

AND VERY NICE GESTURE ON YOUR

PART.

>> YEAH.

>> WELL, GIVE OUR REGARDS TO

LOYDA SENIOR.

>> DOES SHE MISS US?

>> MOM.

SHE SAID "NO."

[giggles]

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> all: BYE.

>> "I MET THE LOVE OF MY LIFE

ONLINE EIGHT YEARS AGO."

>> WAIT, EIGHT YEARS AGO.

>> I STRONGLY BELIEVE HE IS THE

PERFECT GUY FOR ME AND MY SON.

>> WHOA.

>> THAT'S A PRETTY BIG PHYSICAL

DIFFERENCE.

>> OH, MY GOD.

LIKE, DON'T MAKE ME CRY.

I AM FREAKING OUT.

WHAT DID I DO?

DEREK, COME ON.

OH, MY GOD, I CAN'T TURN AROUND.

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