Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 2, Episode 2 - Anthony & Marq - full transcript
Anthony is a Iraq War veteran who wears his Purple Heart on his sleeve. Over a year ago, he bonded online with a caring, emotionally available man named Marq. Today, they're head over heels in love - but what is Marq hiding?
>> YOU READY?
>> I GUESS.
I'M AS READY AS I'MA BE.
[thunder]
[tense music]
**
>> HEY.
>> HEY.
>> HI, I'M NEV, AND THIS IS MY
FILMMAKER BUDDY MAX.
LAST YEAR, WE TRAVELED ACROSS
THE COUNTRY FIGURING OUT
THE TRUTH BEHIND ONLINE
ROMANCES.
I'M READY TO COME MEET YOU.
DO YOU THINK YOU'RE REALLY
READY?
>> I'M DEFINITELY READY.
>> ALONG THE WAY, WE OPENED
DOORS TO SOME BIG SURPRISES.
>> WAIT, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS.
>> WE MADE A FEW LOVE
CONNECTIONS...
>> FEELS AMAZING.
>> AND EVEN DID OUR FAIR SHARE
OF MENDING BROKEN HEARTS.
>> I'M SO HAPPY EVERY DAY WHEN I
WAKE UP NOW.
[sniffles]
>> SUDDENLY, THE IDEA OF
CATFISHING--HIDING WHO YOU
REALLY ARE TO HOOK SOMEONE INTO
AN ONLINE RELATIONSHIP...
>> PROBABLY A PAGEANT WINNER,
A MODEL.
>> WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT BY
A LOT OF YOU.
GOT AN EMAIL HERE.
"WHO DID I REALLY FALL IN LOVE
WITH?"
SO MAX AND I ARE HEADED BACK OUT
ON THE ROAD...
MAX, WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO.
TO INVESTIGATE STORIES THAT SEEM
TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE...
>> I AM IN DEREK'S DRIVEWAY.
>> OR TOO WILD TO MAKE UP.
>> HE WAS CARJACKED, AND HE WAS
RAN OVER BY THE CAR.
>> JESUS, MAN.
WILL HOPE BECOME LOVE?
>> OH, MY GOD.
>> OR IS LOVE IN FOR A GIANT
SHOCK?
>> [cries] I DON'T KNOW.
>> YOU CAN BE SURE THAT MAX AND
I WILL FIND OUT ALL
THE ANSWERS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES,
A LITTLE BIT OF FICTION...
>> WOW, CATFISH CURVE BALL.
>> LEADS TO A WHOLE LOT OF
REALITY.
THINGS WILL NEVER BE THE SAME.
>> [laughs]
>> ARE WE READY?
>> LET'S DO IT.
>> CATFISH THE MOVIE WAS MY
STORY.
CATFISH: THE TV SHOW IS YOURS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE NEW
SHOES?
>> THEY'RE NICE.
>> YOU LIKE--THEY'RE OKAY?
>> THEY'RE OKAY.
ARE THEY COMFY?
>> THEY ARE PRETTY COMFORTABLE.
THANKS.
>> DO YOU NOT LIKE WHEN I DO
THAT?
I HATE WHEN PEOPLE DO THAT.
THEY JUST STEP ON YOUR NEW
SHOES.
>> ALL RIGHT, MAX.
>> YEAH.
>> HERE'S A NEW EMAIL FROM A GUY
NAMED ANTHONY.
IT SAYS, "HEY, NEV.
I'M A 27-YEAR-OLD MEDICALLY
RETIRED VETERAN FROM HOUSTON,
TEXAS.
OVER FOUR YEARS AGO, I WAS
WOUNDED IN BATTLE IN IRAQ.
LAST YEAR, I BECAME INVOLVED IN
A RELATIONSHIP.
I'VE BEEN DATING THIS GUY THAT
I ORIGINALLY MET ON FACEBOOK
NAMED MARQ.
WE'VE BEEN DATING FOR AROUND
SEVEN MONTHS, BUT I'VE KNOWN
HIM FOR OVER A YEAR NOW.
ORIGINALLY, I WAS ATTRACTED TO
HIM FOR HIS LOOKS, OF COURSE.
BUT AFTER WE STARTED TALKING
ON THE PHONE EVERY DAY, I
GAINED AN ATTRACTION TO HIS
PERSONALITY.
MARQ MADE ME FEEL LIKE I COULD
TRUST HIM.
SO I LET MY GUARD DOWN AND
OPENED UP TO HIM.
I COULD TALK TO HIM ABOUT
ALMOST ANYTHING.
HE HAD A SENSITIVE SIDE,
SOMETHING I HAD NEVER REALLY
SEEN IN MANY GUYS.
EVENTUALLY, I STARTED TO GET
SUSPICIOUS ABOUT A LOT OF THE
PICTURES HE WAS SENDING ME.
I HAVE TRIED MULTIPLE TIMES TO
GET HIM TO VIDEO CHAT WITH ME.
THERE'S ALWAYS AN EXCUSE.
LAST THANKSGIVING, I CAME TO
MISSISSIPPI, SO I COULD MEET
HIM, AND HE NEVER SHOWED.
THEN, THE NEXT DAY, HE FINALLY
CALLS ME AND SAYS, 'I WAS
CARJACKED AND RUN OVER BY THE
CAR.'"
>> * MY HEAD IS A JUNGLE
* JUNGLE
*MY HEAD *
>> "I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE
MARQ IS NOT REALLY WHO HE SAYS
HE IS, BUT I AM IN LOVE WITH
HIM.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER I
CAN GO THROUGH THIS, AND I NEED
SOME ANSWERS.
CAN YOU HELP ME?
SINCERELY, ANTHONY."
WOW.
THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT HE'S
ALREADY, LIKE, ACCEPTED THAT
THIS GUY THAT HE'S IN LOVE WITH
IS LYING TO HIM...
>> AND HE LOVES HIM ANYWAY.
>> WELL, RIGHT.
LET'S CALL THE GUY 'CAUSE I'M
REALLY INTERESTED AND CURIOUS.
[line ringing]
>> HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> HEY, ANTHONY.
HOW YOU DOING?
WE JUST READ YOUR EMAIL, AND WE
WANTED TO JUST IMMEDIATELY CALL
YOU BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF
QUESTIONS.
>> [chuckles]
>> WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT MARQ?
HOW DID YOU KIND OF FALL IN
LOVE?
>> I JUST USED TO SEE HIM ON
FACEBOOK ON MY TIMELINE.
AND HE'S PUT A LOT OF DEPRESSING
STATUSES.
SO I USED TO BE WONDERING WHAT'S
GOING ON WITH THIS BOY.
SO ONE DAY, I JUST STARTED
HITTING HIM UP, ASKING HIM WHAT
WAS GOING ON.
>> DO YOU THINK THAT'S BECAUSE
YOU--YOU'VE DEALT WITH THOSE
FEELINGS YOURSELF?
>> EXACTLY.
I WAS IN AN EXPLOSION ON TOWER
GUARD.
AND I BROKE MY HIP AND MY FEMUR,
MY KNEES, MY ANKLE, AND A BRAIN
INJURY.
>> HOW ARE YOU NOW?
>> THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE A
PROBLEM--SOMETIMES, I'M
DEPRESSED.
AFTER I CAME BACK FROM IRAQ, I
COULDN'T WALK.
I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE NOBODY TO
TALK TO.
I DIDN'T REACH OUT TO NOBODY.
NOBODY REACHED OUT TO ME.
AND WE JUST GOT CLOSER FROM THAT
POINT ON BECAUSE I CAN BE MYSELF
WITH MARQ.
I CAN TELL HIM STUFF THAT I
DON'T TELL ANYBODY.
AND HE DOES THE SAME TO ME.
AND I'VE NEVER REALLY HAD THAT
TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP WITH
ANOTHER PERSON.
>> WHEN DID YOU START FIGURING
OUT THAT MARQ WASN'T WHO HE SAID
HE WAS?
>> THE FIRST TIME THAT I HAD MY
SUSPICION WAS BECAUSE WE WAS
SUPPOSED TO MEET EACH OTHER FOR
THANKSGIVING.
SO I FLEW TO MISSISSIPPI.
WHEN I GET THERE TO THE
RESTAURANT, I WAIT FOR ABOUT TWO
HOURS.
AND HE NEVER SHOWS...
>> [winces]
>> AT ALL.
HE DIDN'T ANSWER THE PHONE.
HE DIDN'T RESPOND TO TEXT
MESSAGES OR ANYTHING.
BUT THE NEXT DAY, HE CALLS AND
SAYS THAT HE WAS CARJACKED, AND
HE WAS RAN OVER BY THE CAR.
HE SAID HIS LEG AND HIS ARM WAS
BROKEN.
I KNEW INSTANTLY, "HE IS LYING."
>> BUT YOU LOVE HIM ANYWAY.
>> I DO.
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER I FEEL
LIKE HE'S LYING OR NOT, IT STILL
DOESN'T CHANGE ANY FEELINGS THAT
I HAVE.
>> I'M VERY INTRIGUED BY YOUR
RELATIONSHIP.
AND IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE
CAN HELP SORT OF MAKE THIS
HAPPEN, I'D LOVE TO TRY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT.
SEE YOU, MAN.
>> HE'S SMART, AND HE'S NOT IN
DENIAL.
>> RIGHT, BUT I THINK HE'S
HOPING THAT SOMEHOW, THERE'S
SOME JUSTIFICATION.
>> RIGHT.
>> LIKE, WHATEVER IT IS, WE'RE
GONNA MEET THIS GUY, AND I'M
GONNA IMMEDIATELY UNDERSTAND...
>> IT'S GONNA MAKE SENSE THEN.
>> "OKAY, HERE'S WHY HE LIED.
I CAN UNDERSTAND NOW."
>> LET'S GO.
LONE STAR STATE.
EVERYTHING'S BIGGER IN TEXAS.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> * WE'LL KEEP TOGETHER *
* OH, WE'LL MAKE IT BETTER *
* OH, OH, OH
>> COME ON.
COME ON.
GOOD MORNING, HOUSTON, TEXAS.
>> THE PLACE THAT ANTHONY IS AT
IS NOT LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE
ON THE SHOW.
>> HE KNOWS THAT THE GUY'S LYING
TO HIM, AND HE DOESN'T KNOW
ABOUT WHAT.
AND YET HE'S HANGING ON AND
HOPING THAT THE GUY IS JUST
HIDING SOMETHING THAT--
THAT'S JUSTIFIABLE.
I MEAN, THIS COULD LEAVE HIM IN
A REALLY BAD STATE.
>> ALL RIGHT, THIS IS IT.
[claps hands]
>> HEY, WHAT'S UP?
>> WHAT'S UP, MAN?
>> HOW ARE YOU?
>> GOOD TO MEET YOU, MAN.
>> WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> CAN WE COME IN?
>> YEAH, OF COURSE.
>> IT'S A BIG CREW.
COME ON, GENTLEMEN.
ALL RIGHT.
THIS PLACE IS VERY NICE.
YOU GOT SOME PHOTOS HERE.
THIS IS, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU
WERE IN--IN THE ARMY.
>> YEAH, THAT'S WHEN I WAS
RECEIVING MY PURPLE HEART.
>> OH, WOW.
OH, WHAT'S THAT?
>> WHEN YOU GO OUT AT NIGHT TO,
LIKE, A BAR OR SOMETHING, YOU
DON'T EVER PUT IT ON?
>> I PUT IT ON MY HAT, ON THE
SIDE, AND TURN IT SIDEWAYS.
[laughs]
AFTER MY INJURIES, I WAS IN THE
HOSPITAL FOR ALMOST THREE
MONTHS.
I PUSHED MY FAMILY AWAY.
I PUSHED AWAY ANYBODY WHO
REMINDED ME OF THE SITUATION.
BUT MARQ IS THE ONLY PERSON WHO
I CAN TALK TO ABOUT HOW I'M
FEELING.
I TELL HIM EVERYTHING ABOUT ME.
HE KNOWS THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE
UGLY, EVERYTHING ABOUT ME.
I AM 100% IN LOVE WITH HIM.
AND I KNOW I DON'T WANNA BE WITH
ANYBODY ELSE BUT HIM RIGHT NOW.
OKAY, WELL, THIS IS MARQ.
>> OKAY.
THIS IS THE MARQ YOU KNOW?
ALL RIGHT, SO HE'S--HE'S
OBVIOUSLY A HANDSOME GUY.
>> HE SENT A SPECIFIC PICTURE
THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME.
>> SO THAT'S MARQ IN THE MIDDLE?
>> RIGHT.
>> AND THEN, THIS GUY ON THE
RIGHT...
>> HIS NAME IS ROBERT.
>> ROBERT, OKAY.
>> HE LIVES HERE IN HOUSTON.
AND I KNOW HIM.
AND I WAS LIKE, "HOW YOU KNOW
ROBERT?"
AND HE WAS LIKE, "OH, WE--
WE TALKED, LIKE, A WHILE BACK."
MEANWHILE, I'M TEXTING ROBERT.
AND I SAY, "YOU KNOW THE DUDE IN
THIS PIC?"
HE TEXTS ME THE NAME OF THE
PERSON, JOSHUA.
THEN, I WENT, AND I LOOKED UP
JOSHUA.
>> YEAH.
>> AND THAT IS JOSHUA.
>> "HEARTTHROB."
WHOA, OKAY, SO THIS GUY'S GOT
THE SAME PICTURES AS MARQ.
SO HAVE YOU EVER SAID TO MARQ,
LIKE, "HEY, WHO'S THIS GUY?"
>> MM-HMM.
HE SAID IT'S A FAKE PAGE.
AND HE GETS MAD.
AND HE CURSES ME OUT.
EVEN THOUGH THE QUESTION STILL
EXISTS, I STOPPED BRINGING IT UP
BECAUSE IT'S CLEARLY A TOUCHY
SUBJECT.
>> IS THERE ANY REASON FOR YOU
TO THINK THAT ROBERT COULD BE
LYING TO YOU ABOUT JOSHUA AND
THAT HE ACTUALLY KNOWS HIM?
>> THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT
HE COULD HAVE TOLD ME THAT
BECAUSE ROBERT REALLY DOES NOT
LIKE ME.
>> BUT YOUR TEXT EXCHANGE LOOKED
FRIENDLY.
>> AND YEAH, THAT TEXT MESSAGE
WAS FRIENDLY, BUT HE'S MADE IT
VERY CLEAR THAT HE DOESN'T LIKE
ME.
>> HUH.
OKAY, AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE--
THE--THE WHOLE CARJACKING THING?
WHAT--WHAT DO YOU HAVE FROM
THAT?
>> HE SENT ME THIS PICTURE.
>> THAT'S A WHITE HAND.
>> YEAH, THAT'S, LIKE, AN OLD,
WHITE PERSON.
>> THAT'S A WHITE HAND.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I
THOUGHT.
HE SAID IT'S BE--IT LOOKS LIKE
THAT BECAUSE HIS HAND WAS
SWELLING.
WHEN I TALKED TO HIM ON THE
PHONE, HE--HE TELLS ME, YOU
KNOW, "YEAH, I LIE ABOUT A LOT
OF STUFF BECAUSE I'M NOT HAPPY
WITH CERTAIN THINGS."
BUT HE SAYS IT'S STILL HIM.
EVEN THOUGH I HAVE MY DOUBTS IN
THE BACK OF MY MIND, I STILL
BELIEVE IT.
THIS IS SOMEBODY I REALLY CARE
ABOUT, REALLY, WITH ALL MY
HEART.
I DON'T WANNA JUST GIVE UP THAT
EASY.
I HAVE TO MEET HIM.
I HAVE TO.
[sniffles]
>> WE'RE COMMITTED TO FIGURING
THIS OUT.
>> WE SHOULD MAYBE GO START
INVESTIGATING...
>> YEAH.
>> SEE WHAT WE COME UP WITH.
>> I KNOW THIS WHOLE THING IS
WEIRD AND CRAZY.
>> YEAH.
>> BUT I THINK--TRY TO REMEMBER
THAT AT THE END OF ALL THIS, THE
OUTCOME WILL BE HOPEFULLY SOME
ANSWERS, SOME CLOSURE.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
I DON'T NEED ALL OF THIS.
>> HEY, ANTHONY, CAN WE--
CAN WE JUST TALK FOR A SECOND?
>> MM-HMM.
>> SO WHAT'S UP NOW?
I MEAN, I--YOU OBVIOUSLY WERE
HOLDING THAT IN.
>> NO, IT'S JUST I'M TIRED OF
THIS MAN LYING TO ME ABOUT
EVERYTHING.
I'M SO SICK OF THIS [bleep].
HE'S ALWAYS LYING TO ME.
I'M SO TIRED OF THIS.
[sniffles]
I AM NOT THIS PERSON.
I AM NOT THE PERSON WHO LETS
SOMEBODY BRAINWASH THEM AND MAKE
THEM BELIEVE STUPID-ASS [bleep].
I AM NOT THE MOTHER[bleep] WHO
DOES THIS [bleep].
I AM NOT THIS PERSON.
MY MOTHER TAUGHT ME WAY BETTER
THAN THIS.
AND I DON'T WANNA GO THROUGH
THIS [bleep] NO MORE.
[sniffles]
I-I JUST FEEL LIKE--THAT THIS
PERSON IS GIVING ME THE LOVE
THAT I'VE NEVER HAD,
REGARDLESS OF WHAT HE'S LYING
ABOUT, HE STILL--I KNOW THAT
HE GOTTA--HE GOTTA GIVE A DAMN.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
HE HAS TO CARE.
HE HAS TO.
>> WHATEVER THIS GUY'S STORY
ENDS UP BEING, YOU WILL GET
BACK.
AND YOU'LL MOVE ON STRONGER
KNOWING MORE.
>> * IT'S A DRAG ON A BOAT *
* AND WE'RE LOST AT SEA *
>> THE FISHING HOLE.
>> NOW, IT'S THE CATFISHING
HOLE.
>> BUT THIS IS GONNA BE NICER.
>> * IT'S A DRAG ON A BOAT *
* AND WE'RE LOST AT SEA *
* I'M TRYING TO FIND *
* SOME PEACE OF MIND
>> NEV'S ROOM.
MAX'S ROOM.
UGH.
>> * EY EY EY
>> ANTHONY'S IN LOVE WITH MARQ.
ANTHONY KNOWS THAT MARQ IS LYING
TO HIM.
>> HE'S GONE TO MEET HIM.
>> RIGHT.
>> THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT.
MARQ FOUND A WAY TO NOT SHOW UP.
>> ANTHONY'S EXHAUSTED AND FED
UP.
>> BUT HE CAN'T SEPARATE HIMSELF
BECAUSE HE'S TOTALLY IN LOVE.
>> SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO?
>> WE WANNA FIND OUT WHO MARQ
IS.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE TWO
FACEBOOK PROFILES THAT HAVE
PICTURES OF "MARQ."
ONE OF THEM IS THE MARQ WELLS
FACEBOOK PAGE.
>> THERE'S VERY LITTLE
INFORMATION ON IT.
OKAY.
>> THE OTHER ONE IS THE JOSHUA
FACEBOOK PAGE.
>> WHOA, OKAY, SO THIS GUY'S GOT
13,000 FOLLOWERS ON HIS PROFILE.
>> LET'S JUST GO AND CONTACT
JOSH.
>> HEY, JOSH.
I COULD REALLY USE YOUR HELP.
PLEASE GIVE ME A CALL IF YOU CAN
ASAP.
THANKS.
BEST-CASE SCENARIO: JOSHUA SEES
THIS, CALLS ME, AND WE GET HIM
TO VIDEO CHAT SO THAT WE CAN
KNOW 100%--
>> IF HE AGREES TO VIDEO CHAT
WITH US, AND--AND WE'RE SEEING
HIM TALKING TO US, AND HE SAYS
THAT HE'S NOT MARQ, THEN HE'S
NOT MARQ.
>> IT'S ALREADY--RIGHT.
[musical ringtone]
>> HELLO?
YEAH, WHO IS THIS?
>> WOW, HEY, MAN.
>> CAN WE VIDEO CHAT WITH YOU?
[both chuckle]
>> HEY, MAN.
YOU ARE JOSHUA.
>> YES.
>> OKAY, I'M NEV.
THIS IS MAX.
>> HEY, MAN.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU TOO.
>> DOES THIS HAPPEN TO YOU A
LOT?
PEOPLE JUST STEAL YOUR PHOTOS
AND PRETEND TO BE YOU?
>> RIGHT.
>> YOU HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS IN
COMMON WITH ANTHONY, WHO IS THE
YOUNG MAN WHO BELIEVES HE'S
TALKING TO YOU.
>> BUT YOU DON'T KNOW ANTHONY.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SAY
SOMETHING TO ANTHONY ON CAMERA?
>> ALL RIGHT, MAN.
WELL, THANK YOU.
SO CASE CLOSED ON THE PROFILE
PICTURE.
>> RIGHT.
>> WHO IS MARQ WELLS?
LET'S RUN THE PHONE NUMBER.
>> WHICH ONE?
>> WE NEVER DO THAT.
>> OH, HIS NUMBER.
>> YEAH.
>> OH, DUH, GOD.
OF COURSE, ALL RIGHT.
HOLD ON, I HAVE HIS NUMBER HERE.
ALL RIGHT, I AM RUNNING MARQ'S
CELL PHONE NUMBER IN SPOKEO.
>> RIGHT.
WHOA.
BOOM.
>> FRAMEL.
WHAT THE [bleep]?
WELL, LET'S JUST SEARCH FRAMEL.
A MYLIFE PROFILE FOR FRAMEL.
WHAT DO WE GOT? WHAT DO WE GOT?
>> SOCIAL NETWORKS.
>> LET'S SEE IF THIS ACTUALLY
OPENS A PAGE.
OOH.
>> WE JUST WENT TO MYLIFE.
AND UNDER SOCIAL NETWORKS,
THERE'S A FACEBOOK ICON.
AND WE CLICKED ON THE FACEBOOK
ICON.
>> RIGHT, WHICH TOOK US STRAIGHT
TO THE MARQ WELLS PROFILE...
>> AND IT TOOK US RIGHT TO THE
MARQ WELLS PROFILE.
>> WITH THE PICTURES THAT WE
KNOW ARE FAKE.
SO WE HAVE NOW PRETTY CONCLUSIVE
EVIDENCE THAT IF THERE IS
ANYBODY WHO'S LIKELY TO BE DOING
THIS RIGHT NOW, IT'S THIS GUY
FRAMEL.
YIKES.
OKAY, THERE'S GOTTA BE
SOMETHING ELSE.
WHAT OTHER PLACES ARE WE
FORGETTING TO LOOK?
>> LOOK, HE MADE HIS--HIS UNIQUE
THING FRAMEL_200.
LET'S LOOK FOR OTHER--LOOK, JUST
SEARCH FOR FRAMEL_200.
UH...
>> OH, [bleep].
>> BOOM.
>> MAX, YOU'RE SO SMART.
>> both: WHOA.
>> THAT'S HIM.
>> UH...
>> OH, [bleep].
>> THAT'S HIM.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S SAFE TO
SAY THAT WITH 100% CERTAINTY,
THIS IS--
>> DUDE.
>> THIS IS THE G--I'M JUST--
>> IT'S THE GUY.
>> PROFILE, URL...
>> SO HIS MYLIFE URL, CUSTOMIZED
URL, WAS FRAMEL_200.
>> OKAY, WE JUST DID A SEARCH
FOR THAT.
AND THE GUY THAT COMES UP IS 21.
HE'S BLACK.
HE'S FROM JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI.
OH, HERE'S A WEBSITE.
>> I LOVE MYSELF.
I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT ME,
INCLUDING THE GAP IN MY MOUTH,
FROM THE WAY I HAVE CRAZY S--
WHATEVER HAIR.
>> THIS IS HIM.
>> [sighs]
OH, MY GOD.
I THINK WE GOT HIM.
>> WE GOT EVERYTHING.
>> WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING.
NOW, WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT
HOW TO TELL ANTHONY.
>> WE'LL JUST HAVE TO, LIKE,
BE THERE TO SUPPORT HIM.
>> YEAH, NICE WORK.
YO, ANTHONY.
MAX AND I HAVE A BUNCH OF STUFF
TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT AND SHOW
YOU.
>> * YOU SAY LET IT GO
* BUT I CAN'T LET IT GO *
* I WANT TO BELIEVE...
>> WE'RE GONNA LAY SOME HEAVY
INFO ON YOU TODAY.
AND I THINK IF YOU CAN KEEP
THAT ATTITUDE ABOUT IT, STAYING
POSITIVE, IT'S PROBABLY FOR THE
BEST.
*
>> * I DON'T WANT TO KNOW *
* WHO I AM...
>> I'M NERVOUS.
[groans]
>> WHAT ARE YOU NERVOUS ABOUT?
>> 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT
Y'ALL ABOUT TO TELL ME.
>> SOME OF WHAT WE SHOW YOU IS
DEFINITELY GONNA BE UPSETTING.
SO TRY TO REMEMBER WE'RE HERE TO
DO WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU.
COOL?
>> MM-HMM.
>> ALL RIGHT.
SO I HAVE A VIDEO.
IT'S FROM JOSHUA.
>> HEY, ANTHONY.
IT'S ME, IT'S JOSH, THE REAL
DEAL.
UM, HEARD ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED,
JUST WANTED SAY SORRY.
YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY IN THE
FUTURE, YOU'LL FIND WHATEVER IT
IS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.
>> [sniffles]
[sniffles]
I JUST FEEL PLAYED...
WITH REALITY RIGHT NOW.
[sighs]
I THOUGHT I WAS PREPARED FOR IT,
BUT I REALLY WASN'T.
[sniffles]
>> YOU HAD STRONG DOUBTS.
BUT PART OF YOU JUST HOPED THAT
IT WAS TRUE.
AND THAT'S TOTALLY NORMAL.
ALL RIGHT, SO--SO THE NEXT THING
THAT WE DID WAS WE JUST DID,
LIKE, A REVERSE SEARCH ON MARQ'S
PHONE NUMBER.
AND IT CAME UP WITH THIS.
>> DO YOU KNOW ANYONE NAMED
FRAMEL?
>> NO.
IT'S NOT A COMMON NAME.
>> NO, IT'S SORT OF UNUSUAL.
>> [sniffles]
>> SO WE DID A SEARCH FOR
FRAMEL.
AND IT TOOK US TO THIS CHANNEL.
>> YOU'LL KNOW THE VOICE IF--
IF--IF IT'S FAMILIAR.
>> WHOO!
I LOVE MYSELF.
I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT ME,
INCLUDING THE GAP IN MY MOUTH,
FROM THE WAY I HAVE CRAZY S--
WHATEVER HAIR.
>> [sniffles]
[sighs]
[sniffles]
[alternative music]
**
[sniffles]
I HAVE TOLD HIM SO MUCH ABOUT
MYSELF.
HE--HE KNOWS [bleep] ABOUT ME I
DON'T TELL NOBODY ELSE.
I FEEL LIKE THIS MOTHER[bleep]
PLAYED WITH ME.
>> NEED A TISSUE?
>> THANK YOU.
>> [sighs]
>> SO WHAT SHOULD I DO FROM
HERE?
'CAUSE I WANNA KNOW.
I WANNA TALK TO HIM.
I WANNA KNOW.
I WANNA SEE HIM FACE-TO-FACE.
I WANNA ASK HIM WHY IS HE LYING
TO ME.
>> I CAN CALL HIM.
AND I CAN TELL HIM THAT WE KNOW.
>> THE ONLY WAY FOR THAT TO
HAPPEN IS IF YOU DO IT 'CAUSE
I'M NOT GONNA CALL HIM 'CAUSE I
DON'T WANNA TALK TO HIM.
>> ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA CALL
HIM.
AND I'LL BE BACK.
ALL RIGHT?
[line ringing]
HELLO?
YES.
H-HEY, I'M LOOKING FOR FRAMEL?
>> YOU TIRED?
>> NO.
UM, I'M JUST IRRITATED,
EMBARRASSED.
LIKE, EVERYTHING, ALL IN ONE.
>> MY NAME IS NEV.
AND I'M ON A SHOW CALLED
CATFISH.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD OF
IT.
OKAY, COOL.
SO I'M CALLING BECAUSE A YOUNG
MAN NAMED ANTHONY ASKED FOR MY
HELP BECAUSE HE'S IN A
RELATIONSHIP, UH, WELL, WITH
YOU.
MAKE IT INTO YOUR OFFICE?
WELL, I-I THINK YOU'VE SORT OF
AVOIDED THIS LONG ENOUGH.
I-I DON'T--I CAN HEAR YOU.
YOU CAN HEAR ME.
I DON'T SEE WHY YOU NEED TO CALL
ME BACK.
I NEED YOU TO KNOW THAT ANTHONY,
HE'S DEVASTATED.
YOU OWE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO
MEET FACE-TO-FACE AND--AND CLOSE
A CHAPTER ON THE BOOK OF THE
LAST YEAR OF YOUR RELATIONSHIP.
IF--IF I HAVE A PROMISE FROM YOU
THAT FROM HERE ON OUT, YOU'RE
GONNA BE 100% REAL AND
STRAIGHT-UP, THEN I CAN FEEL
COMFORTABLE BRINGING ANTHONY TO
COME MEET YOU.
BUT IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT, I
DON'T WANNA PUT HIM THROUGH
ANOTHER SERIES OF HALF-TRUTHS.
CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM FOR ME
THAT--THAT I'M SPEAKING TO
FRAMEL?
AND YOU LIVE IN JACKSON,
MISSISSIPPI.
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU FOR
COMING CLEAN AND--AND BEING
HONEST WITH ME.
I'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU SOON,
AND WE'LL HOPEFULLY MEET UP
SOON.
ALL RIGHT, BYE, FRAMEL.
ALL RIGHT, ANTHONY.
ARE YOU READY TO DO THIS?
>> IT MEANS A WHOLE LOT, I
THINK.
SO I'M JUST READY TO GET IT
DONE.
>> * ALL I WANT
* IS NOTHING MORE
* TO HEAR YOU KNOCKING
* AT MY DOOR
* 'CAUSE IF I COULD SEE *
* YOUR FACE ONCE MORE
* I COULD DIE A HAPPY MAN
* I'M SURE *
* ALL I WANT IS
* AND ALL I NEED IS
* TO FIND SOMEBODY
* I'LL FIND SOMEBODY *
* LIKE YOU
* OH, OH
* OH
>> WHAT ARE YOU STARTING TO
FEEL?
>> I DON'T KNOW, JUST--
I DON'T--I'M JUST NERVOUS.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST COMING
INTO REALIZATION THAT I'M
ACTUALLY ABOUT TO MEET THIS
PERSON WHO'S PLAYED WITH ME FOR
A YEAR.
SO I'M STILL JUST WONDERING
WHAT WAS HE LOOKING FOR, OR WHAT
WAS HE GETTING OUT OF IT?
I DON'T KNOW.
DAMN, WHERE IS HE LIVING?
LOOKS LIKE WE IN TIMBUKTU.
>> IS THIS IT?
>> WOW.
ALL RIGHT.
>> YOU READY?
>> I GUESS.
[laughs]
I'M AS READY AS I'MA BE.
[tense music]
*
MM-HMM.
[door opens]
>> HI, THERE.
>> HEY.
>> HEY.
>> FRAMEL?
>> YES.
>> HEY, NEV.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> YEAH, YOU TOO.
THIS IS MAX.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> AND ANTHONY.
>> HEY.
>> AND THE CREW HERE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY, ANTHONY'S GOT A
LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU, UH, AS
DO I.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING
SORT OF YOU NEED TO SAY OR WANNA
SAY.
>> JUST MY INTENTIONS WERE NEVER
FOR ANYONE TO GET HURT.
I CARE ABOUT YOU.
AND NOT AS MUCH AS I SHOULD HAVE
AND CONSIDERED YOUR FEELINGS.
I LOVE YOU AS A PERSON.
I'M IN LOVE WITH YOU AS MY
PARTNER.
IF I COULD TAKE IT BACK, I
WOULD.
>> I CAN'T EVEN LOOK AT YOU
'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE I DON'T EVEN
KNOW WHO I'M TALKING TO.
DO YOU NOT REALIZE HOW MUCH
EFFORT I PUT INTO THIS [bleep]?
WHEN I CAME DOWN IN NOVEMBER, I
SAT IN THAT RESTAURANT FOR OVER
TWO HOURS WAITING ON YOU.
WERE YOU OR WERE YOU NOT IN THAT
RESTAURANT?
>> I WAS.
>> [sniffles]
>> I COULDN'T LOOK YOU IN THE
FACE.
I WASN'T READY FOR THAT
AND TELL YOU THAT--
THAT I INTENTIONALLY HURT YOU.
>> SO INSTEAD, YOU DECIDED TO
WATCH ME MAKE A FOOL OF MYSELF
CALLING AND TEXTING YOUR PHONE
FOR OVER TWO HOURS?
THAT DON'T SOUND EMBARRASSING TO
YOU?
>> YEAH, THAT WAS...
>> YOU TOOK ME THROUGH A LOT OF
BULL[bleep] BECAUSE OF THAT.
IS THAT ACTING?
WHAT IS IT?
>> IT--IT WASN'T ACTING,
MY FEELINGS FOR YOU.
THEY--THEY WERE GENUINE.
THEY WERE REAL.
BUT I KEPT IT IN MY MIND THAT I
DID NOT WANNA LOSE YOU AND
ESPECIALLY NOT LIKE THIS.
>> DO YOU OFTEN LIE TO--TO GET
OUT OF THINGS?
OR DO YOU MAKE THINGS UP EASILY?
OR JUST ON THE INTERNET?
>> THE INTERNET WAS MY ESCAPE
FROM DEALING WITH MY REAL LIFE.
IT'S JUST WHEN IT CAME TO THE
PERSON THAT I WANTED TO BE AND
HOW I SEEN MYSELF, I DIDN'T SEE
MYSELF AS FRAMEL.
I S-SAW MYSELF AS A FICTIONAL
CHARACTER, SOMEONE I MADE UP.
>> BUT REALISTICALLY, ALL YOU
CARED ABOUT WAS THE OWN--YOUR
OWN FEELINGS.
YOU DIDN'T CARE ABOUT NOBODY
ELSE'S FEELINGS BUT YOUR OWN.
ALL YOU DID WAS PLAY A WHOLE
BUNCH OF MIND GAMES WITH ME.
YOU MADE ME LOOK STUPID IN FRONT
OF MY FRIENDS.
YOU MADE ME LOOK STUPID IN FRONT
OF MY FAMILY.
AND YOU MADE ME LOOK STUPID TO
MY DAMN SELF.
AND IT SHOWS THAT YOU DON'T CARE
ABOUT NOBODY BUT MARQ OR FRAMEL
OR WHOEVER YOU ARE.
>> I HAVE NO REASON TO LIE NOW
BECAUSE I KNOW WHO I AM.
>> NO, YOU HAVE NO REASON TO LIE
BECAUSE WE BACKED YOU INTO A
CORNER.
>> I MAY NOT BE ALL THE WAY
COMFORTABLE WITH IT...
>> WE FORCED YOU TO TELL THE
TRUTH.
YOU DIDN'T HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO
TELL THE TRUTH.
THERE WAS NO WAY FOR YOU TO LIE
YOUR WAY OUT OF IT.
IF IT WAS JUST ME, YOU WOULD'VE
LIED YOUR WAY OUT OF IT, JUST
LIKE ALL THE OTHER TIMES WHEN I
TOLD YOU THAT I FELT LIKE YOU
WAS FULL OF [bleep].
YOU LIED YOUR WAY OUT OF IT.
>> IF I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT YOU,
I WOULDN'T HAVE SAID, "OKAY,
COME ON, SO WE CAN MEET."
BUT YET I WANTED TO DO WHAT I
COULDN'T DO THEN, AND THAT'S
APOLOGIZE TO YOU FACE-TO-FACE.
I'M MAN ENOUGH TO SAY THAT I--
I [bleep] UP.
IT WASN'T ANYTHING THAT YOU DID.
I [bleep] UP.
AND I HURT A PERSON THAT I
REALLY CARED ABOUT.
WHETHER YOU WANNA ACCEPT IT OR
NOT, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
YOU CAN'T TELL ME HOW TO FEEL.
>> THAT'S [bleep] BULL[bleep].
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.
[soft rock music]
**
>> I'M GONNA SEE HOW HE'S DOING.
>> I'M JUST MAD.
I JUST WANNA HIT HIM IN HIS
DAMN FACE.
>> I MEAN, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND
THAT.
>> THAT'S BULL[bleep].
EVERYTHING THAT I'M ASKING HIM,
HE'S STILL TRYING TO TALK HIS
WAY OUT OF IT, TRYING TO JUSTIFY
IT.
>> HOW WERE YOU HOPING THIS WAS
GONNA GO?
>> I-I DIDN'T HOPE AT ALL
BECAUSE I PUT MYSELF IN THIS
PREDICAMENT.
BUT I LOVE HIM MORE THAN I CAN
EVER GET UP HERE AND SAY.
SO...
I DON'T--I DON'T KNOW.
[thunder]
[line ringing]
>> HELLO, FRAMEL?
WE HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS,
AND WE'RE CURIOUS IF YOU WERE
INTERESTED IN SITTING DOWN WITH
US AGAIN.
OKAY, BYE.
I THINK YOU'RE REALLY, YOU KNOW,
IN A POSITION TO HELP HIM LEARN
SOMETHING FROM THIS SO THAT
MAYBE HE WON'T DO IT TO SOMEONE
ELSE.
[knocks at door]
HEY.
>> HI.
>> HOW YA DOING?
>> I'M GOOD.
YOU GUYS CAN COME IN.
>> HELLO.
>> HI.
>> HEY.
>> HI, I'M MAX.
>> HI, MAX.
>> WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
>> I'M STEPHANIE.
>> STEPHANIE AND...
>> LAGARIUS.
>> LAGARIUS.
>> YEP.
>> WOULD YOU GUYS SAY YOU'RE
REALLY CLOSE FRIENDS WITH
FRAMEL?
>> WE ARE.
>> DEFINITELY.
>> ME AND FRAMEL KNEW EACH OTHER
FROM HIGH SCHOOL.
>> YEAH.
>> AND STEPHANIE WAS MY SUITE
MATE, SO WE ALL CAME TOGETHER.
>> YEAH, YEAH.
>> FRAMEL, STEPHANIE.
STEPHANIE, FRAMEL.
AND IT WAS LIKE A TRIO.
>> YEAH, SO...
>> HOW MUCH DO YOU GUYS KNOW
ABOUT FRAMEL'S RELATIONSHIP WITH
ANTHONY?
>> WELL--
>> HE USED TO TALK ABOUT HIM ALL
THE TIME.
>> YEAH.
I WAS LIKE, "OKAY, FRAMEL,
SO WHEN ARE YOU GONNA MEET HIM?"
SO...
>> AND THAT'S WHEN I TOLD THEM,
LIKE, ABOUT THE MARQ WELLS PAGE.
>> RIGHT.
>> I MEAN, HERE'S THE PROBLEM IS
THAT FOR A YEAR, HE'S BEEN LYING
ABOUT MANY, MANY THINGS TO
ANTHONY.
AND NOW, YESTERDAY, HE COMES
CLEAN.
>> MM-HMM.
>> AND ANTHONY DOESN'T KNOW HOW
MUCH OF WHAT HE'S SAYING IS--
IS STILL A LIE OR NOT.
>> NO, IT'S NOT THAT HE DIDN'T
OWN UP TO NOTHING IN MY OPINION.
I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT
YOU DONE LIED TO ME ABOUT
EVERYTHING.
SO I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT YOU.
>> IF YOU FEEL THIS WAY THAT YOU
SAY YOU DO ABOUT ANTHONY, THEN
TELL ANTHONY THE TRUTH.
>> I TOLD YOU I OWNED UP TO IT.
IT WAS NOTHING THAT YOU DID.
IT WAS ME, AND IT WAS ME BEING
VERY IMMATURE AND HAVING A
[bleep] OUTLOOK ON LIFE.
AND I SHOULDN'T HAVE TOOK THAT
OUT ON YOU.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE INCLUDED YOU IN
THAT.
>> I WANT YOU TO JUST BE [bleep]
REAL.
DON'T TELL ME NO REASON WHY YOU
WAS PRETENDING TO BE SOMEBODY
ELSE BECAUSE OF SOME
SELF-ESTEEM OR NOTHING.
I JUST WANT YOU TO OWN UP TO
JUST BEING A [bleep] UP PERSON
ABOUT THAT.
>> I WAS A [bleep] UP PERSON.
YOU'RE NOT ABOUT TO PUT ME BACK
IN THAT PLACE IN MY LIFE.
I SAID I WAS [bleep] UP THEN.
I'M NOT [bleep] UP NOW.
IT IS WHAT IT IS.
>> DON'T SIT OVER THERE
TALKING TO ME ANY KIND OF WAY
THAT YOU WANNA TALK TO ME
BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU, I'M IN
YOUR HOUSE...
>> I'M DONE, I'M DONE.
>> AND I WILL STILL POP YOU IN
YOUR MOTHER[bleep] MOUTH,
'CAUSE I'M MAD.
>> OKAY.
>> I AM MAD.
>> CALM YOURSELF DOWN.
NO MATTER HOW MAD YOU ARE,
GROWN-UPS ARE ABLE TO HANDLE
CERTAIN SITUATIONS.
>> GUYS, DON'T--
>> YOU ARE ABLE TO CALM YOURSELF
DOWN, NO MATTER HOW MAD YOU ARE.
>> SHH, CALM DOWN.
>> NO, I'M NOT GONNA CALM DOWN
BECAUSE NOBODY SAID ANYTHING TO
HIM.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
WHEN IT COMES TO THE POINT WHERE
YOU PUT YOUR HANDS ON ME, HMM.
TRY.
>> OWN UP TO YOUR [bleep].
>> YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT.
>> OWN UP TO IT.
>> AND I DID.
>> WE GONNA GET THE SAME
BULL[bleep] AS EXCUSES FROM YOU,
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
>> I CAN'T [bleep] MAKE YOU
BELIEVE IT, SO WHAT?
>> 'CAUSE YOU A LIAR, PERIOD.
>> GUYS.
>> OKAY, SO WHY THE [bleep] ARE
YOU HERE?
>> OKAY, I FORGIVE YOU.
I'M GOOD.
[soft rock music]
*
>> AND NOW, MORE
CATFISH: THE TV SHOW.
STICK AROUND.
I-I DON'T BLAME YOU FOR--
FOR GETTING UPSET AT ALL.
AND THE LAST THING I WANT YOU TO
DO IS TAKE BAD FEELINGS FROM
THIS.
AND I DON'T WANT HIM TO LEAVE
ALL THIS BEHIND THINKING, LIKE,
"OH, ANTHONY, WHAT A [bleep].
HE YELLED AT ME.
HE DIDN'T THINK I WAS TELLING
THE TRUTH.
[bleep] HIM."
>> ALL RIGHT.
I'M READY TO GO IN.
WELL, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE
BECAUSE I DISRESPECTED YOUR
MOTHER'S HOUSE.
AND I WAS REALLY LOUD AND
CURSING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT
LISTENING AS WELL.
SO I GUESS I CAN LISTEN TO
WHATEVER YOU GOTTA SAY.
>> NOTHING CAN REALLY CONSOLE
YOU.
BUT I'M GONNA TRY MY HARDEST
BECAUSE I REALLY CARE ABOUT YOU.
I DON'T WANT YOU GOING THROUGH
LIFE THINKING EVERYBODY'S GOING
TO LIE TO YOU BECAUSE I MADE
ONE HUGE MISTAKE AND DIDN'T--
AND DIDN'T THINK OF THE
CONSEQUENCES.
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
I'M WILLING TO SIT HERE AND
ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
>> W-WELL, I THINK THE QUESTION
IS, WHO ARE YOU?
>> UH, I'M FRAMEL.
AND I WAS BORN FEBRUARY 19TH.
WHEN I WAS ABOUT 12, UM, I ENDED
UP GETTING INTO A ACCIDENT
TO WHERE I WAS HAVING SURGERY
AFTER SURGERY.
I COULDN'T WALK.
I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR
MYSELF.
I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING BUT LAY
DOWN AND EAT.
SO I GAINED A LOT OF WEIGHT.
NOT LONG AFTER THAT, I HIT A
PLACE TO WHERE I WOULD REALLY
LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SAY,
"I HATE MYSELF."
AND I THOUGHT I WASN'T WORTH
ANYTHING.
THAT WAS A MAJOR POINT IN MY
LIFE.
AND AFTER THEN, I DEALT WITH A
LOT OF PAIN, BECAUSE ME LIKING
GUYS WAS REALLY WRONG, I GUESS,
FOR ME AND MY FAMILY, BECAUSE...
[sniffles]
[sighs]
BEING HOMOSEXUAL WAS AGAINST
GOD.
IT DEVELOPED INTO ME BEING
CONFUSED THAT I BECAME A PERSON
I DIDN'T WANNA BE.
I WAS HOLDING IT ALL IN.
AND SO WHEN I MET ANTHONY, I
HAD SOMEBODY TO TALK TO.
HE WAS ALWAYS THERE.
AND HE WAS A PERSON THAT I
CONFIDED IN A LOT.
THOUGH THE PICTURE WAS NOT REAL,
THE FEELINGS, THE EXPERIENCE,
ALL OF THAT WAS VERY MUCH REAL
FOR ME.
THAT--THAT WAS--THAT WAS REAL.
AND I REALLY NEED YOUR
FORGIVENESS.
I NEED YOUR FORGIVENESS, SO I
CAN MOVE ON.
I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER WAY TO
PUT IT.
>> WELL, I ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY,
AND I FORGIVE YOU.
>> [sniffles]
[sighs]
>> I JUST WANTED SOME ANSWERS.
AND I FEEL LIKE I PRETTY MUCH
GOT 'EM.
SO, I MEAN, I'M IN A DECENT
PLACE RIGHT NOW.
SO I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHERE I
NEEDED TO BE.
>> FOR ME TO BE FORGIVEN BY AN
AMAZING PERSON IS MORE THAN I
CAN ASK FOR.
SO I'M JUST GRATEFUL AND EXCITED
TO GO ON WITH LIFE.
>> I'M GONNA TAKE A PICTURE OF
YOU GUYS REALLY QUICK.
>> * WE'LL GO ANYWHERE *
>> OKAY.
NICE TO MEET YOU.
[indistinct chatter]
>> * I'LL PACK THE CAR *
>> ALL RIGHT, FRAMEL.
BYE.
>> BYE.
>> * YOU'LL LET DOWN YOUR HAIR *
>> AW, I NEED A HUG.
*
>> * WE'RE GONE AWAY FOR GOOD *
* TONIGHT
*
>> YO.
>> YO.
MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
HOW ARE Y'ALL?
>> WHAT'S THE FORECAST FOR
ANTHONY?
WHAT--WHAT'S THE FUTURE HOLD FOR
YOU?
WHAT ARE YOU SORT OF HOPING TO
DO?
>> I'M KINDA TAKING MY TIME.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO JUMP INTO
ANYTHING WITH ANYBODY.
I JUST NEED TO WORK ON ME,
PERIOD.
>> DO YOU MISS MARQ AT ALL?
I MEAN, DO YOU MISS HAVING THAT
KIND OF A PERSON IN YOUR LIFE?
>> I KINDA DO.
BUT ALL I THINK ABOUT IS HOW
ANGRY I WAS WHEN ALL OF THAT
WAS GOING ON.
>> SO ENDING THAT RELATIONSHIP
WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF THE BEST
THING THAT COULD HAPPEN.
>> YEAH, AND I ACTUALLY GREW
FROM IT.
AND I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT
MYSELF.
>> HEY, FRAMEL.
>> HEY, FRAMEL.
>> HI.
>> HOW YA DOING?
>> I'M DOING GOOD.
I WAS SCARED TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE
REALLY THOUGHT OF ME.
AND ONCE I DID, IT WASN'T THE
BAD RESULTS THAT I THOUGHT I
WAS GONNA GET.
I'M ACTUALLY SEEING SOMEBODY,
UH, RIGHT NOW.
>> WOW.
>> HE REALLY CARES ABOUT ME.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I
ACTUALLY NEEDED.
>> DO YOU MISS YOUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH ANTHONY?
>> I REALLY DO.
THERE'S NOT A DAY GOES BY THAT I
DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.
BUT I CAN'T DWELL ON THAT.
I MEAN, JUST HAVE TO MOVE ON.
>> IT'S NICE TO KNOW YOU SORT OF
REALLY TURNED THE CORNER.
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR KIND OF
FIRST REAL, IN-PERSON
RELATIONSHIP.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT, FRAMEL.
>> ALL RIGHT, BYE.
>> SEE YA.
>> BYE, FRAMEL.
>> BYE.
>> WHEN I WAKE UP, SHE'S THE ONE
THAT I THINK ABOUT.
AND I WANNA SEE WHO I FELL IN
LOVE WITH.
>> HAVE YOU EVER JUST SENT HER
MONEY?
>> I GAVE HER MY BANK
INFORMATION.
>> JESUS, MAN.
>> THAT'S HER.
>> both: SAME GIRL.
>> YOU THINK RAMON'S GONNA BE
SURPRISED?
>> I THINK HE'S GONNA BE
SHOCKED.
>> MY NAME IS NEV, AND I'M
MAKING A SHOW CALLED CATFISH.
[phone beeps]
DID SHE JUST HANG UP?
1335
00:40:57.
>> I GUESS.
I'M AS READY AS I'MA BE.
[thunder]
[tense music]
**
>> HEY.
>> HEY.
>> HI, I'M NEV, AND THIS IS MY
FILMMAKER BUDDY MAX.
LAST YEAR, WE TRAVELED ACROSS
THE COUNTRY FIGURING OUT
THE TRUTH BEHIND ONLINE
ROMANCES.
I'M READY TO COME MEET YOU.
DO YOU THINK YOU'RE REALLY
READY?
>> I'M DEFINITELY READY.
>> ALONG THE WAY, WE OPENED
DOORS TO SOME BIG SURPRISES.
>> WAIT, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS.
>> WE MADE A FEW LOVE
CONNECTIONS...
>> FEELS AMAZING.
>> AND EVEN DID OUR FAIR SHARE
OF MENDING BROKEN HEARTS.
>> I'M SO HAPPY EVERY DAY WHEN I
WAKE UP NOW.
[sniffles]
>> SUDDENLY, THE IDEA OF
CATFISHING--HIDING WHO YOU
REALLY ARE TO HOOK SOMEONE INTO
AN ONLINE RELATIONSHIP...
>> PROBABLY A PAGEANT WINNER,
A MODEL.
>> WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT BY
A LOT OF YOU.
GOT AN EMAIL HERE.
"WHO DID I REALLY FALL IN LOVE
WITH?"
SO MAX AND I ARE HEADED BACK OUT
ON THE ROAD...
MAX, WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO.
TO INVESTIGATE STORIES THAT SEEM
TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE...
>> I AM IN DEREK'S DRIVEWAY.
>> OR TOO WILD TO MAKE UP.
>> HE WAS CARJACKED, AND HE WAS
RAN OVER BY THE CAR.
>> JESUS, MAN.
WILL HOPE BECOME LOVE?
>> OH, MY GOD.
>> OR IS LOVE IN FOR A GIANT
SHOCK?
>> [cries] I DON'T KNOW.
>> YOU CAN BE SURE THAT MAX AND
I WILL FIND OUT ALL
THE ANSWERS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES,
A LITTLE BIT OF FICTION...
>> WOW, CATFISH CURVE BALL.
>> LEADS TO A WHOLE LOT OF
REALITY.
THINGS WILL NEVER BE THE SAME.
>> [laughs]
>> ARE WE READY?
>> LET'S DO IT.
>> CATFISH THE MOVIE WAS MY
STORY.
CATFISH: THE TV SHOW IS YOURS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THESE NEW
SHOES?
>> THEY'RE NICE.
>> YOU LIKE--THEY'RE OKAY?
>> THEY'RE OKAY.
ARE THEY COMFY?
>> THEY ARE PRETTY COMFORTABLE.
THANKS.
>> DO YOU NOT LIKE WHEN I DO
THAT?
I HATE WHEN PEOPLE DO THAT.
THEY JUST STEP ON YOUR NEW
SHOES.
>> ALL RIGHT, MAX.
>> YEAH.
>> HERE'S A NEW EMAIL FROM A GUY
NAMED ANTHONY.
IT SAYS, "HEY, NEV.
I'M A 27-YEAR-OLD MEDICALLY
RETIRED VETERAN FROM HOUSTON,
TEXAS.
OVER FOUR YEARS AGO, I WAS
WOUNDED IN BATTLE IN IRAQ.
LAST YEAR, I BECAME INVOLVED IN
A RELATIONSHIP.
I'VE BEEN DATING THIS GUY THAT
I ORIGINALLY MET ON FACEBOOK
NAMED MARQ.
WE'VE BEEN DATING FOR AROUND
SEVEN MONTHS, BUT I'VE KNOWN
HIM FOR OVER A YEAR NOW.
ORIGINALLY, I WAS ATTRACTED TO
HIM FOR HIS LOOKS, OF COURSE.
BUT AFTER WE STARTED TALKING
ON THE PHONE EVERY DAY, I
GAINED AN ATTRACTION TO HIS
PERSONALITY.
MARQ MADE ME FEEL LIKE I COULD
TRUST HIM.
SO I LET MY GUARD DOWN AND
OPENED UP TO HIM.
I COULD TALK TO HIM ABOUT
ALMOST ANYTHING.
HE HAD A SENSITIVE SIDE,
SOMETHING I HAD NEVER REALLY
SEEN IN MANY GUYS.
EVENTUALLY, I STARTED TO GET
SUSPICIOUS ABOUT A LOT OF THE
PICTURES HE WAS SENDING ME.
I HAVE TRIED MULTIPLE TIMES TO
GET HIM TO VIDEO CHAT WITH ME.
THERE'S ALWAYS AN EXCUSE.
LAST THANKSGIVING, I CAME TO
MISSISSIPPI, SO I COULD MEET
HIM, AND HE NEVER SHOWED.
THEN, THE NEXT DAY, HE FINALLY
CALLS ME AND SAYS, 'I WAS
CARJACKED AND RUN OVER BY THE
CAR.'"
>> * MY HEAD IS A JUNGLE
* JUNGLE
*MY HEAD *
>> "I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE
MARQ IS NOT REALLY WHO HE SAYS
HE IS, BUT I AM IN LOVE WITH
HIM.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER I
CAN GO THROUGH THIS, AND I NEED
SOME ANSWERS.
CAN YOU HELP ME?
SINCERELY, ANTHONY."
WOW.
THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT HE'S
ALREADY, LIKE, ACCEPTED THAT
THIS GUY THAT HE'S IN LOVE WITH
IS LYING TO HIM...
>> AND HE LOVES HIM ANYWAY.
>> WELL, RIGHT.
LET'S CALL THE GUY 'CAUSE I'M
REALLY INTERESTED AND CURIOUS.
[line ringing]
>> HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> HEY, ANTHONY.
HOW YOU DOING?
WE JUST READ YOUR EMAIL, AND WE
WANTED TO JUST IMMEDIATELY CALL
YOU BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF
QUESTIONS.
>> [chuckles]
>> WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT MARQ?
HOW DID YOU KIND OF FALL IN
LOVE?
>> I JUST USED TO SEE HIM ON
FACEBOOK ON MY TIMELINE.
AND HE'S PUT A LOT OF DEPRESSING
STATUSES.
SO I USED TO BE WONDERING WHAT'S
GOING ON WITH THIS BOY.
SO ONE DAY, I JUST STARTED
HITTING HIM UP, ASKING HIM WHAT
WAS GOING ON.
>> DO YOU THINK THAT'S BECAUSE
YOU--YOU'VE DEALT WITH THOSE
FEELINGS YOURSELF?
>> EXACTLY.
I WAS IN AN EXPLOSION ON TOWER
GUARD.
AND I BROKE MY HIP AND MY FEMUR,
MY KNEES, MY ANKLE, AND A BRAIN
INJURY.
>> HOW ARE YOU NOW?
>> THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE A
PROBLEM--SOMETIMES, I'M
DEPRESSED.
AFTER I CAME BACK FROM IRAQ, I
COULDN'T WALK.
I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE NOBODY TO
TALK TO.
I DIDN'T REACH OUT TO NOBODY.
NOBODY REACHED OUT TO ME.
AND WE JUST GOT CLOSER FROM THAT
POINT ON BECAUSE I CAN BE MYSELF
WITH MARQ.
I CAN TELL HIM STUFF THAT I
DON'T TELL ANYBODY.
AND HE DOES THE SAME TO ME.
AND I'VE NEVER REALLY HAD THAT
TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP WITH
ANOTHER PERSON.
>> WHEN DID YOU START FIGURING
OUT THAT MARQ WASN'T WHO HE SAID
HE WAS?
>> THE FIRST TIME THAT I HAD MY
SUSPICION WAS BECAUSE WE WAS
SUPPOSED TO MEET EACH OTHER FOR
THANKSGIVING.
SO I FLEW TO MISSISSIPPI.
WHEN I GET THERE TO THE
RESTAURANT, I WAIT FOR ABOUT TWO
HOURS.
AND HE NEVER SHOWS...
>> [winces]
>> AT ALL.
HE DIDN'T ANSWER THE PHONE.
HE DIDN'T RESPOND TO TEXT
MESSAGES OR ANYTHING.
BUT THE NEXT DAY, HE CALLS AND
SAYS THAT HE WAS CARJACKED, AND
HE WAS RAN OVER BY THE CAR.
HE SAID HIS LEG AND HIS ARM WAS
BROKEN.
I KNEW INSTANTLY, "HE IS LYING."
>> BUT YOU LOVE HIM ANYWAY.
>> I DO.
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER I FEEL
LIKE HE'S LYING OR NOT, IT STILL
DOESN'T CHANGE ANY FEELINGS THAT
I HAVE.
>> I'M VERY INTRIGUED BY YOUR
RELATIONSHIP.
AND IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE
CAN HELP SORT OF MAKE THIS
HAPPEN, I'D LOVE TO TRY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT.
SEE YOU, MAN.
>> HE'S SMART, AND HE'S NOT IN
DENIAL.
>> RIGHT, BUT I THINK HE'S
HOPING THAT SOMEHOW, THERE'S
SOME JUSTIFICATION.
>> RIGHT.
>> LIKE, WHATEVER IT IS, WE'RE
GONNA MEET THIS GUY, AND I'M
GONNA IMMEDIATELY UNDERSTAND...
>> IT'S GONNA MAKE SENSE THEN.
>> "OKAY, HERE'S WHY HE LIED.
I CAN UNDERSTAND NOW."
>> LET'S GO.
LONE STAR STATE.
EVERYTHING'S BIGGER IN TEXAS.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> * WE'LL KEEP TOGETHER *
* OH, WE'LL MAKE IT BETTER *
* OH, OH, OH
>> COME ON.
COME ON.
GOOD MORNING, HOUSTON, TEXAS.
>> THE PLACE THAT ANTHONY IS AT
IS NOT LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE
ON THE SHOW.
>> HE KNOWS THAT THE GUY'S LYING
TO HIM, AND HE DOESN'T KNOW
ABOUT WHAT.
AND YET HE'S HANGING ON AND
HOPING THAT THE GUY IS JUST
HIDING SOMETHING THAT--
THAT'S JUSTIFIABLE.
I MEAN, THIS COULD LEAVE HIM IN
A REALLY BAD STATE.
>> ALL RIGHT, THIS IS IT.
[claps hands]
>> HEY, WHAT'S UP?
>> WHAT'S UP, MAN?
>> HOW ARE YOU?
>> GOOD TO MEET YOU, MAN.
>> WHAT'S GOING ON?
>> CAN WE COME IN?
>> YEAH, OF COURSE.
>> IT'S A BIG CREW.
COME ON, GENTLEMEN.
ALL RIGHT.
THIS PLACE IS VERY NICE.
YOU GOT SOME PHOTOS HERE.
THIS IS, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU
WERE IN--IN THE ARMY.
>> YEAH, THAT'S WHEN I WAS
RECEIVING MY PURPLE HEART.
>> OH, WOW.
OH, WHAT'S THAT?
>> WHEN YOU GO OUT AT NIGHT TO,
LIKE, A BAR OR SOMETHING, YOU
DON'T EVER PUT IT ON?
>> I PUT IT ON MY HAT, ON THE
SIDE, AND TURN IT SIDEWAYS.
[laughs]
AFTER MY INJURIES, I WAS IN THE
HOSPITAL FOR ALMOST THREE
MONTHS.
I PUSHED MY FAMILY AWAY.
I PUSHED AWAY ANYBODY WHO
REMINDED ME OF THE SITUATION.
BUT MARQ IS THE ONLY PERSON WHO
I CAN TALK TO ABOUT HOW I'M
FEELING.
I TELL HIM EVERYTHING ABOUT ME.
HE KNOWS THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE
UGLY, EVERYTHING ABOUT ME.
I AM 100% IN LOVE WITH HIM.
AND I KNOW I DON'T WANNA BE WITH
ANYBODY ELSE BUT HIM RIGHT NOW.
OKAY, WELL, THIS IS MARQ.
>> OKAY.
THIS IS THE MARQ YOU KNOW?
ALL RIGHT, SO HE'S--HE'S
OBVIOUSLY A HANDSOME GUY.
>> HE SENT A SPECIFIC PICTURE
THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME.
>> SO THAT'S MARQ IN THE MIDDLE?
>> RIGHT.
>> AND THEN, THIS GUY ON THE
RIGHT...
>> HIS NAME IS ROBERT.
>> ROBERT, OKAY.
>> HE LIVES HERE IN HOUSTON.
AND I KNOW HIM.
AND I WAS LIKE, "HOW YOU KNOW
ROBERT?"
AND HE WAS LIKE, "OH, WE--
WE TALKED, LIKE, A WHILE BACK."
MEANWHILE, I'M TEXTING ROBERT.
AND I SAY, "YOU KNOW THE DUDE IN
THIS PIC?"
HE TEXTS ME THE NAME OF THE
PERSON, JOSHUA.
THEN, I WENT, AND I LOOKED UP
JOSHUA.
>> YEAH.
>> AND THAT IS JOSHUA.
>> "HEARTTHROB."
WHOA, OKAY, SO THIS GUY'S GOT
THE SAME PICTURES AS MARQ.
SO HAVE YOU EVER SAID TO MARQ,
LIKE, "HEY, WHO'S THIS GUY?"
>> MM-HMM.
HE SAID IT'S A FAKE PAGE.
AND HE GETS MAD.
AND HE CURSES ME OUT.
EVEN THOUGH THE QUESTION STILL
EXISTS, I STOPPED BRINGING IT UP
BECAUSE IT'S CLEARLY A TOUCHY
SUBJECT.
>> IS THERE ANY REASON FOR YOU
TO THINK THAT ROBERT COULD BE
LYING TO YOU ABOUT JOSHUA AND
THAT HE ACTUALLY KNOWS HIM?
>> THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT
HE COULD HAVE TOLD ME THAT
BECAUSE ROBERT REALLY DOES NOT
LIKE ME.
>> BUT YOUR TEXT EXCHANGE LOOKED
FRIENDLY.
>> AND YEAH, THAT TEXT MESSAGE
WAS FRIENDLY, BUT HE'S MADE IT
VERY CLEAR THAT HE DOESN'T LIKE
ME.
>> HUH.
OKAY, AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE--
THE--THE WHOLE CARJACKING THING?
WHAT--WHAT DO YOU HAVE FROM
THAT?
>> HE SENT ME THIS PICTURE.
>> THAT'S A WHITE HAND.
>> YEAH, THAT'S, LIKE, AN OLD,
WHITE PERSON.
>> THAT'S A WHITE HAND.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I
THOUGHT.
HE SAID IT'S BE--IT LOOKS LIKE
THAT BECAUSE HIS HAND WAS
SWELLING.
WHEN I TALKED TO HIM ON THE
PHONE, HE--HE TELLS ME, YOU
KNOW, "YEAH, I LIE ABOUT A LOT
OF STUFF BECAUSE I'M NOT HAPPY
WITH CERTAIN THINGS."
BUT HE SAYS IT'S STILL HIM.
EVEN THOUGH I HAVE MY DOUBTS IN
THE BACK OF MY MIND, I STILL
BELIEVE IT.
THIS IS SOMEBODY I REALLY CARE
ABOUT, REALLY, WITH ALL MY
HEART.
I DON'T WANNA JUST GIVE UP THAT
EASY.
I HAVE TO MEET HIM.
I HAVE TO.
[sniffles]
>> WE'RE COMMITTED TO FIGURING
THIS OUT.
>> WE SHOULD MAYBE GO START
INVESTIGATING...
>> YEAH.
>> SEE WHAT WE COME UP WITH.
>> I KNOW THIS WHOLE THING IS
WEIRD AND CRAZY.
>> YEAH.
>> BUT I THINK--TRY TO REMEMBER
THAT AT THE END OF ALL THIS, THE
OUTCOME WILL BE HOPEFULLY SOME
ANSWERS, SOME CLOSURE.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
I DON'T NEED ALL OF THIS.
>> HEY, ANTHONY, CAN WE--
CAN WE JUST TALK FOR A SECOND?
>> MM-HMM.
>> SO WHAT'S UP NOW?
I MEAN, I--YOU OBVIOUSLY WERE
HOLDING THAT IN.
>> NO, IT'S JUST I'M TIRED OF
THIS MAN LYING TO ME ABOUT
EVERYTHING.
I'M SO SICK OF THIS [bleep].
HE'S ALWAYS LYING TO ME.
I'M SO TIRED OF THIS.
[sniffles]
I AM NOT THIS PERSON.
I AM NOT THE PERSON WHO LETS
SOMEBODY BRAINWASH THEM AND MAKE
THEM BELIEVE STUPID-ASS [bleep].
I AM NOT THE MOTHER[bleep] WHO
DOES THIS [bleep].
I AM NOT THIS PERSON.
MY MOTHER TAUGHT ME WAY BETTER
THAN THIS.
AND I DON'T WANNA GO THROUGH
THIS [bleep] NO MORE.
[sniffles]
I-I JUST FEEL LIKE--THAT THIS
PERSON IS GIVING ME THE LOVE
THAT I'VE NEVER HAD,
REGARDLESS OF WHAT HE'S LYING
ABOUT, HE STILL--I KNOW THAT
HE GOTTA--HE GOTTA GIVE A DAMN.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
HE HAS TO CARE.
HE HAS TO.
>> WHATEVER THIS GUY'S STORY
ENDS UP BEING, YOU WILL GET
BACK.
AND YOU'LL MOVE ON STRONGER
KNOWING MORE.
>> * IT'S A DRAG ON A BOAT *
* AND WE'RE LOST AT SEA *
>> THE FISHING HOLE.
>> NOW, IT'S THE CATFISHING
HOLE.
>> BUT THIS IS GONNA BE NICER.
>> * IT'S A DRAG ON A BOAT *
* AND WE'RE LOST AT SEA *
* I'M TRYING TO FIND *
* SOME PEACE OF MIND
>> NEV'S ROOM.
MAX'S ROOM.
UGH.
>> * EY EY EY
>> ANTHONY'S IN LOVE WITH MARQ.
ANTHONY KNOWS THAT MARQ IS LYING
TO HIM.
>> HE'S GONE TO MEET HIM.
>> RIGHT.
>> THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT.
MARQ FOUND A WAY TO NOT SHOW UP.
>> ANTHONY'S EXHAUSTED AND FED
UP.
>> BUT HE CAN'T SEPARATE HIMSELF
BECAUSE HE'S TOTALLY IN LOVE.
>> SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO?
>> WE WANNA FIND OUT WHO MARQ
IS.
WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE TWO
FACEBOOK PROFILES THAT HAVE
PICTURES OF "MARQ."
ONE OF THEM IS THE MARQ WELLS
FACEBOOK PAGE.
>> THERE'S VERY LITTLE
INFORMATION ON IT.
OKAY.
>> THE OTHER ONE IS THE JOSHUA
FACEBOOK PAGE.
>> WHOA, OKAY, SO THIS GUY'S GOT
13,000 FOLLOWERS ON HIS PROFILE.
>> LET'S JUST GO AND CONTACT
JOSH.
>> HEY, JOSH.
I COULD REALLY USE YOUR HELP.
PLEASE GIVE ME A CALL IF YOU CAN
ASAP.
THANKS.
BEST-CASE SCENARIO: JOSHUA SEES
THIS, CALLS ME, AND WE GET HIM
TO VIDEO CHAT SO THAT WE CAN
KNOW 100%--
>> IF HE AGREES TO VIDEO CHAT
WITH US, AND--AND WE'RE SEEING
HIM TALKING TO US, AND HE SAYS
THAT HE'S NOT MARQ, THEN HE'S
NOT MARQ.
>> IT'S ALREADY--RIGHT.
[musical ringtone]
>> HELLO?
YEAH, WHO IS THIS?
>> WOW, HEY, MAN.
>> CAN WE VIDEO CHAT WITH YOU?
[both chuckle]
>> HEY, MAN.
YOU ARE JOSHUA.
>> YES.
>> OKAY, I'M NEV.
THIS IS MAX.
>> HEY, MAN.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU TOO.
>> DOES THIS HAPPEN TO YOU A
LOT?
PEOPLE JUST STEAL YOUR PHOTOS
AND PRETEND TO BE YOU?
>> RIGHT.
>> YOU HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS IN
COMMON WITH ANTHONY, WHO IS THE
YOUNG MAN WHO BELIEVES HE'S
TALKING TO YOU.
>> BUT YOU DON'T KNOW ANTHONY.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SAY
SOMETHING TO ANTHONY ON CAMERA?
>> ALL RIGHT, MAN.
WELL, THANK YOU.
SO CASE CLOSED ON THE PROFILE
PICTURE.
>> RIGHT.
>> WHO IS MARQ WELLS?
LET'S RUN THE PHONE NUMBER.
>> WHICH ONE?
>> WE NEVER DO THAT.
>> OH, HIS NUMBER.
>> YEAH.
>> OH, DUH, GOD.
OF COURSE, ALL RIGHT.
HOLD ON, I HAVE HIS NUMBER HERE.
ALL RIGHT, I AM RUNNING MARQ'S
CELL PHONE NUMBER IN SPOKEO.
>> RIGHT.
WHOA.
BOOM.
>> FRAMEL.
WHAT THE [bleep]?
WELL, LET'S JUST SEARCH FRAMEL.
A MYLIFE PROFILE FOR FRAMEL.
WHAT DO WE GOT? WHAT DO WE GOT?
>> SOCIAL NETWORKS.
>> LET'S SEE IF THIS ACTUALLY
OPENS A PAGE.
OOH.
>> WE JUST WENT TO MYLIFE.
AND UNDER SOCIAL NETWORKS,
THERE'S A FACEBOOK ICON.
AND WE CLICKED ON THE FACEBOOK
ICON.
>> RIGHT, WHICH TOOK US STRAIGHT
TO THE MARQ WELLS PROFILE...
>> AND IT TOOK US RIGHT TO THE
MARQ WELLS PROFILE.
>> WITH THE PICTURES THAT WE
KNOW ARE FAKE.
SO WE HAVE NOW PRETTY CONCLUSIVE
EVIDENCE THAT IF THERE IS
ANYBODY WHO'S LIKELY TO BE DOING
THIS RIGHT NOW, IT'S THIS GUY
FRAMEL.
YIKES.
OKAY, THERE'S GOTTA BE
SOMETHING ELSE.
WHAT OTHER PLACES ARE WE
FORGETTING TO LOOK?
>> LOOK, HE MADE HIS--HIS UNIQUE
THING FRAMEL_200.
LET'S LOOK FOR OTHER--LOOK, JUST
SEARCH FOR FRAMEL_200.
UH...
>> OH, [bleep].
>> BOOM.
>> MAX, YOU'RE SO SMART.
>> both: WHOA.
>> THAT'S HIM.
>> UH...
>> OH, [bleep].
>> THAT'S HIM.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S SAFE TO
SAY THAT WITH 100% CERTAINTY,
THIS IS--
>> DUDE.
>> THIS IS THE G--I'M JUST--
>> IT'S THE GUY.
>> PROFILE, URL...
>> SO HIS MYLIFE URL, CUSTOMIZED
URL, WAS FRAMEL_200.
>> OKAY, WE JUST DID A SEARCH
FOR THAT.
AND THE GUY THAT COMES UP IS 21.
HE'S BLACK.
HE'S FROM JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI.
OH, HERE'S A WEBSITE.
>> I LOVE MYSELF.
I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT ME,
INCLUDING THE GAP IN MY MOUTH,
FROM THE WAY I HAVE CRAZY S--
WHATEVER HAIR.
>> THIS IS HIM.
>> [sighs]
OH, MY GOD.
I THINK WE GOT HIM.
>> WE GOT EVERYTHING.
>> WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING.
NOW, WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT
HOW TO TELL ANTHONY.
>> WE'LL JUST HAVE TO, LIKE,
BE THERE TO SUPPORT HIM.
>> YEAH, NICE WORK.
YO, ANTHONY.
MAX AND I HAVE A BUNCH OF STUFF
TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT AND SHOW
YOU.
>> * YOU SAY LET IT GO
* BUT I CAN'T LET IT GO *
* I WANT TO BELIEVE...
>> WE'RE GONNA LAY SOME HEAVY
INFO ON YOU TODAY.
AND I THINK IF YOU CAN KEEP
THAT ATTITUDE ABOUT IT, STAYING
POSITIVE, IT'S PROBABLY FOR THE
BEST.
*
>> * I DON'T WANT TO KNOW *
* WHO I AM...
>> I'M NERVOUS.
[groans]
>> WHAT ARE YOU NERVOUS ABOUT?
>> 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT
Y'ALL ABOUT TO TELL ME.
>> SOME OF WHAT WE SHOW YOU IS
DEFINITELY GONNA BE UPSETTING.
SO TRY TO REMEMBER WE'RE HERE TO
DO WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU.
COOL?
>> MM-HMM.
>> ALL RIGHT.
SO I HAVE A VIDEO.
IT'S FROM JOSHUA.
>> HEY, ANTHONY.
IT'S ME, IT'S JOSH, THE REAL
DEAL.
UM, HEARD ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED,
JUST WANTED SAY SORRY.
YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY IN THE
FUTURE, YOU'LL FIND WHATEVER IT
IS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.
>> [sniffles]
[sniffles]
I JUST FEEL PLAYED...
WITH REALITY RIGHT NOW.
[sighs]
I THOUGHT I WAS PREPARED FOR IT,
BUT I REALLY WASN'T.
[sniffles]
>> YOU HAD STRONG DOUBTS.
BUT PART OF YOU JUST HOPED THAT
IT WAS TRUE.
AND THAT'S TOTALLY NORMAL.
ALL RIGHT, SO--SO THE NEXT THING
THAT WE DID WAS WE JUST DID,
LIKE, A REVERSE SEARCH ON MARQ'S
PHONE NUMBER.
AND IT CAME UP WITH THIS.
>> DO YOU KNOW ANYONE NAMED
FRAMEL?
>> NO.
IT'S NOT A COMMON NAME.
>> NO, IT'S SORT OF UNUSUAL.
>> [sniffles]
>> SO WE DID A SEARCH FOR
FRAMEL.
AND IT TOOK US TO THIS CHANNEL.
>> YOU'LL KNOW THE VOICE IF--
IF--IF IT'S FAMILIAR.
>> WHOO!
I LOVE MYSELF.
I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT ME,
INCLUDING THE GAP IN MY MOUTH,
FROM THE WAY I HAVE CRAZY S--
WHATEVER HAIR.
>> [sniffles]
[sighs]
[sniffles]
[alternative music]
**
[sniffles]
I HAVE TOLD HIM SO MUCH ABOUT
MYSELF.
HE--HE KNOWS [bleep] ABOUT ME I
DON'T TELL NOBODY ELSE.
I FEEL LIKE THIS MOTHER[bleep]
PLAYED WITH ME.
>> NEED A TISSUE?
>> THANK YOU.
>> [sighs]
>> SO WHAT SHOULD I DO FROM
HERE?
'CAUSE I WANNA KNOW.
I WANNA TALK TO HIM.
I WANNA KNOW.
I WANNA SEE HIM FACE-TO-FACE.
I WANNA ASK HIM WHY IS HE LYING
TO ME.
>> I CAN CALL HIM.
AND I CAN TELL HIM THAT WE KNOW.
>> THE ONLY WAY FOR THAT TO
HAPPEN IS IF YOU DO IT 'CAUSE
I'M NOT GONNA CALL HIM 'CAUSE I
DON'T WANNA TALK TO HIM.
>> ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA CALL
HIM.
AND I'LL BE BACK.
ALL RIGHT?
[line ringing]
HELLO?
YES.
H-HEY, I'M LOOKING FOR FRAMEL?
>> YOU TIRED?
>> NO.
UM, I'M JUST IRRITATED,
EMBARRASSED.
LIKE, EVERYTHING, ALL IN ONE.
>> MY NAME IS NEV.
AND I'M ON A SHOW CALLED
CATFISH.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD OF
IT.
OKAY, COOL.
SO I'M CALLING BECAUSE A YOUNG
MAN NAMED ANTHONY ASKED FOR MY
HELP BECAUSE HE'S IN A
RELATIONSHIP, UH, WELL, WITH
YOU.
MAKE IT INTO YOUR OFFICE?
WELL, I-I THINK YOU'VE SORT OF
AVOIDED THIS LONG ENOUGH.
I-I DON'T--I CAN HEAR YOU.
YOU CAN HEAR ME.
I DON'T SEE WHY YOU NEED TO CALL
ME BACK.
I NEED YOU TO KNOW THAT ANTHONY,
HE'S DEVASTATED.
YOU OWE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO
MEET FACE-TO-FACE AND--AND CLOSE
A CHAPTER ON THE BOOK OF THE
LAST YEAR OF YOUR RELATIONSHIP.
IF--IF I HAVE A PROMISE FROM YOU
THAT FROM HERE ON OUT, YOU'RE
GONNA BE 100% REAL AND
STRAIGHT-UP, THEN I CAN FEEL
COMFORTABLE BRINGING ANTHONY TO
COME MEET YOU.
BUT IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT, I
DON'T WANNA PUT HIM THROUGH
ANOTHER SERIES OF HALF-TRUTHS.
CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM FOR ME
THAT--THAT I'M SPEAKING TO
FRAMEL?
AND YOU LIVE IN JACKSON,
MISSISSIPPI.
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU FOR
COMING CLEAN AND--AND BEING
HONEST WITH ME.
I'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU SOON,
AND WE'LL HOPEFULLY MEET UP
SOON.
ALL RIGHT, BYE, FRAMEL.
ALL RIGHT, ANTHONY.
ARE YOU READY TO DO THIS?
>> IT MEANS A WHOLE LOT, I
THINK.
SO I'M JUST READY TO GET IT
DONE.
>> * ALL I WANT
* IS NOTHING MORE
* TO HEAR YOU KNOCKING
* AT MY DOOR
* 'CAUSE IF I COULD SEE *
* YOUR FACE ONCE MORE
* I COULD DIE A HAPPY MAN
* I'M SURE *
* ALL I WANT IS
* AND ALL I NEED IS
* TO FIND SOMEBODY
* I'LL FIND SOMEBODY *
* LIKE YOU
* OH, OH
* OH
>> WHAT ARE YOU STARTING TO
FEEL?
>> I DON'T KNOW, JUST--
I DON'T--I'M JUST NERVOUS.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST COMING
INTO REALIZATION THAT I'M
ACTUALLY ABOUT TO MEET THIS
PERSON WHO'S PLAYED WITH ME FOR
A YEAR.
SO I'M STILL JUST WONDERING
WHAT WAS HE LOOKING FOR, OR WHAT
WAS HE GETTING OUT OF IT?
I DON'T KNOW.
DAMN, WHERE IS HE LIVING?
LOOKS LIKE WE IN TIMBUKTU.
>> IS THIS IT?
>> WOW.
ALL RIGHT.
>> YOU READY?
>> I GUESS.
[laughs]
I'M AS READY AS I'MA BE.
[tense music]
*
MM-HMM.
[door opens]
>> HI, THERE.
>> HEY.
>> HEY.
>> FRAMEL?
>> YES.
>> HEY, NEV.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> YEAH, YOU TOO.
THIS IS MAX.
>> NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> AND ANTHONY.
>> HEY.
>> AND THE CREW HERE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY, ANTHONY'S GOT A
LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU, UH, AS
DO I.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING
SORT OF YOU NEED TO SAY OR WANNA
SAY.
>> JUST MY INTENTIONS WERE NEVER
FOR ANYONE TO GET HURT.
I CARE ABOUT YOU.
AND NOT AS MUCH AS I SHOULD HAVE
AND CONSIDERED YOUR FEELINGS.
I LOVE YOU AS A PERSON.
I'M IN LOVE WITH YOU AS MY
PARTNER.
IF I COULD TAKE IT BACK, I
WOULD.
>> I CAN'T EVEN LOOK AT YOU
'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE I DON'T EVEN
KNOW WHO I'M TALKING TO.
DO YOU NOT REALIZE HOW MUCH
EFFORT I PUT INTO THIS [bleep]?
WHEN I CAME DOWN IN NOVEMBER, I
SAT IN THAT RESTAURANT FOR OVER
TWO HOURS WAITING ON YOU.
WERE YOU OR WERE YOU NOT IN THAT
RESTAURANT?
>> I WAS.
>> [sniffles]
>> I COULDN'T LOOK YOU IN THE
FACE.
I WASN'T READY FOR THAT
AND TELL YOU THAT--
THAT I INTENTIONALLY HURT YOU.
>> SO INSTEAD, YOU DECIDED TO
WATCH ME MAKE A FOOL OF MYSELF
CALLING AND TEXTING YOUR PHONE
FOR OVER TWO HOURS?
THAT DON'T SOUND EMBARRASSING TO
YOU?
>> YEAH, THAT WAS...
>> YOU TOOK ME THROUGH A LOT OF
BULL[bleep] BECAUSE OF THAT.
IS THAT ACTING?
WHAT IS IT?
>> IT--IT WASN'T ACTING,
MY FEELINGS FOR YOU.
THEY--THEY WERE GENUINE.
THEY WERE REAL.
BUT I KEPT IT IN MY MIND THAT I
DID NOT WANNA LOSE YOU AND
ESPECIALLY NOT LIKE THIS.
>> DO YOU OFTEN LIE TO--TO GET
OUT OF THINGS?
OR DO YOU MAKE THINGS UP EASILY?
OR JUST ON THE INTERNET?
>> THE INTERNET WAS MY ESCAPE
FROM DEALING WITH MY REAL LIFE.
IT'S JUST WHEN IT CAME TO THE
PERSON THAT I WANTED TO BE AND
HOW I SEEN MYSELF, I DIDN'T SEE
MYSELF AS FRAMEL.
I S-SAW MYSELF AS A FICTIONAL
CHARACTER, SOMEONE I MADE UP.
>> BUT REALISTICALLY, ALL YOU
CARED ABOUT WAS THE OWN--YOUR
OWN FEELINGS.
YOU DIDN'T CARE ABOUT NOBODY
ELSE'S FEELINGS BUT YOUR OWN.
ALL YOU DID WAS PLAY A WHOLE
BUNCH OF MIND GAMES WITH ME.
YOU MADE ME LOOK STUPID IN FRONT
OF MY FRIENDS.
YOU MADE ME LOOK STUPID IN FRONT
OF MY FAMILY.
AND YOU MADE ME LOOK STUPID TO
MY DAMN SELF.
AND IT SHOWS THAT YOU DON'T CARE
ABOUT NOBODY BUT MARQ OR FRAMEL
OR WHOEVER YOU ARE.
>> I HAVE NO REASON TO LIE NOW
BECAUSE I KNOW WHO I AM.
>> NO, YOU HAVE NO REASON TO LIE
BECAUSE WE BACKED YOU INTO A
CORNER.
>> I MAY NOT BE ALL THE WAY
COMFORTABLE WITH IT...
>> WE FORCED YOU TO TELL THE
TRUTH.
YOU DIDN'T HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO
TELL THE TRUTH.
THERE WAS NO WAY FOR YOU TO LIE
YOUR WAY OUT OF IT.
IF IT WAS JUST ME, YOU WOULD'VE
LIED YOUR WAY OUT OF IT, JUST
LIKE ALL THE OTHER TIMES WHEN I
TOLD YOU THAT I FELT LIKE YOU
WAS FULL OF [bleep].
YOU LIED YOUR WAY OUT OF IT.
>> IF I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT YOU,
I WOULDN'T HAVE SAID, "OKAY,
COME ON, SO WE CAN MEET."
BUT YET I WANTED TO DO WHAT I
COULDN'T DO THEN, AND THAT'S
APOLOGIZE TO YOU FACE-TO-FACE.
I'M MAN ENOUGH TO SAY THAT I--
I [bleep] UP.
IT WASN'T ANYTHING THAT YOU DID.
I [bleep] UP.
AND I HURT A PERSON THAT I
REALLY CARED ABOUT.
WHETHER YOU WANNA ACCEPT IT OR
NOT, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
YOU CAN'T TELL ME HOW TO FEEL.
>> THAT'S [bleep] BULL[bleep].
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.
[soft rock music]
**
>> I'M GONNA SEE HOW HE'S DOING.
>> I'M JUST MAD.
I JUST WANNA HIT HIM IN HIS
DAMN FACE.
>> I MEAN, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND
THAT.
>> THAT'S BULL[bleep].
EVERYTHING THAT I'M ASKING HIM,
HE'S STILL TRYING TO TALK HIS
WAY OUT OF IT, TRYING TO JUSTIFY
IT.
>> HOW WERE YOU HOPING THIS WAS
GONNA GO?
>> I-I DIDN'T HOPE AT ALL
BECAUSE I PUT MYSELF IN THIS
PREDICAMENT.
BUT I LOVE HIM MORE THAN I CAN
EVER GET UP HERE AND SAY.
SO...
I DON'T--I DON'T KNOW.
[thunder]
[line ringing]
>> HELLO, FRAMEL?
WE HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS,
AND WE'RE CURIOUS IF YOU WERE
INTERESTED IN SITTING DOWN WITH
US AGAIN.
OKAY, BYE.
I THINK YOU'RE REALLY, YOU KNOW,
IN A POSITION TO HELP HIM LEARN
SOMETHING FROM THIS SO THAT
MAYBE HE WON'T DO IT TO SOMEONE
ELSE.
[knocks at door]
HEY.
>> HI.
>> HOW YA DOING?
>> I'M GOOD.
YOU GUYS CAN COME IN.
>> HELLO.
>> HI.
>> HEY.
>> HI, I'M MAX.
>> HI, MAX.
>> WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
>> I'M STEPHANIE.
>> STEPHANIE AND...
>> LAGARIUS.
>> LAGARIUS.
>> YEP.
>> WOULD YOU GUYS SAY YOU'RE
REALLY CLOSE FRIENDS WITH
FRAMEL?
>> WE ARE.
>> DEFINITELY.
>> ME AND FRAMEL KNEW EACH OTHER
FROM HIGH SCHOOL.
>> YEAH.
>> AND STEPHANIE WAS MY SUITE
MATE, SO WE ALL CAME TOGETHER.
>> YEAH, YEAH.
>> FRAMEL, STEPHANIE.
STEPHANIE, FRAMEL.
AND IT WAS LIKE A TRIO.
>> YEAH, SO...
>> HOW MUCH DO YOU GUYS KNOW
ABOUT FRAMEL'S RELATIONSHIP WITH
ANTHONY?
>> WELL--
>> HE USED TO TALK ABOUT HIM ALL
THE TIME.
>> YEAH.
I WAS LIKE, "OKAY, FRAMEL,
SO WHEN ARE YOU GONNA MEET HIM?"
SO...
>> AND THAT'S WHEN I TOLD THEM,
LIKE, ABOUT THE MARQ WELLS PAGE.
>> RIGHT.
>> I MEAN, HERE'S THE PROBLEM IS
THAT FOR A YEAR, HE'S BEEN LYING
ABOUT MANY, MANY THINGS TO
ANTHONY.
AND NOW, YESTERDAY, HE COMES
CLEAN.
>> MM-HMM.
>> AND ANTHONY DOESN'T KNOW HOW
MUCH OF WHAT HE'S SAYING IS--
IS STILL A LIE OR NOT.
>> NO, IT'S NOT THAT HE DIDN'T
OWN UP TO NOTHING IN MY OPINION.
I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT
YOU DONE LIED TO ME ABOUT
EVERYTHING.
SO I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT YOU.
>> IF YOU FEEL THIS WAY THAT YOU
SAY YOU DO ABOUT ANTHONY, THEN
TELL ANTHONY THE TRUTH.
>> I TOLD YOU I OWNED UP TO IT.
IT WAS NOTHING THAT YOU DID.
IT WAS ME, AND IT WAS ME BEING
VERY IMMATURE AND HAVING A
[bleep] OUTLOOK ON LIFE.
AND I SHOULDN'T HAVE TOOK THAT
OUT ON YOU.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE INCLUDED YOU IN
THAT.
>> I WANT YOU TO JUST BE [bleep]
REAL.
DON'T TELL ME NO REASON WHY YOU
WAS PRETENDING TO BE SOMEBODY
ELSE BECAUSE OF SOME
SELF-ESTEEM OR NOTHING.
I JUST WANT YOU TO OWN UP TO
JUST BEING A [bleep] UP PERSON
ABOUT THAT.
>> I WAS A [bleep] UP PERSON.
YOU'RE NOT ABOUT TO PUT ME BACK
IN THAT PLACE IN MY LIFE.
I SAID I WAS [bleep] UP THEN.
I'M NOT [bleep] UP NOW.
IT IS WHAT IT IS.
>> DON'T SIT OVER THERE
TALKING TO ME ANY KIND OF WAY
THAT YOU WANNA TALK TO ME
BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU, I'M IN
YOUR HOUSE...
>> I'M DONE, I'M DONE.
>> AND I WILL STILL POP YOU IN
YOUR MOTHER[bleep] MOUTH,
'CAUSE I'M MAD.
>> OKAY.
>> I AM MAD.
>> CALM YOURSELF DOWN.
NO MATTER HOW MAD YOU ARE,
GROWN-UPS ARE ABLE TO HANDLE
CERTAIN SITUATIONS.
>> GUYS, DON'T--
>> YOU ARE ABLE TO CALM YOURSELF
DOWN, NO MATTER HOW MAD YOU ARE.
>> SHH, CALM DOWN.
>> NO, I'M NOT GONNA CALM DOWN
BECAUSE NOBODY SAID ANYTHING TO
HIM.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
WHEN IT COMES TO THE POINT WHERE
YOU PUT YOUR HANDS ON ME, HMM.
TRY.
>> OWN UP TO YOUR [bleep].
>> YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT.
>> OWN UP TO IT.
>> AND I DID.
>> WE GONNA GET THE SAME
BULL[bleep] AS EXCUSES FROM YOU,
OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
>> I CAN'T [bleep] MAKE YOU
BELIEVE IT, SO WHAT?
>> 'CAUSE YOU A LIAR, PERIOD.
>> GUYS.
>> OKAY, SO WHY THE [bleep] ARE
YOU HERE?
>> OKAY, I FORGIVE YOU.
I'M GOOD.
[soft rock music]
*
>> AND NOW, MORE
CATFISH: THE TV SHOW.
STICK AROUND.
I-I DON'T BLAME YOU FOR--
FOR GETTING UPSET AT ALL.
AND THE LAST THING I WANT YOU TO
DO IS TAKE BAD FEELINGS FROM
THIS.
AND I DON'T WANT HIM TO LEAVE
ALL THIS BEHIND THINKING, LIKE,
"OH, ANTHONY, WHAT A [bleep].
HE YELLED AT ME.
HE DIDN'T THINK I WAS TELLING
THE TRUTH.
[bleep] HIM."
>> ALL RIGHT.
I'M READY TO GO IN.
WELL, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE
BECAUSE I DISRESPECTED YOUR
MOTHER'S HOUSE.
AND I WAS REALLY LOUD AND
CURSING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT
LISTENING AS WELL.
SO I GUESS I CAN LISTEN TO
WHATEVER YOU GOTTA SAY.
>> NOTHING CAN REALLY CONSOLE
YOU.
BUT I'M GONNA TRY MY HARDEST
BECAUSE I REALLY CARE ABOUT YOU.
I DON'T WANT YOU GOING THROUGH
LIFE THINKING EVERYBODY'S GOING
TO LIE TO YOU BECAUSE I MADE
ONE HUGE MISTAKE AND DIDN'T--
AND DIDN'T THINK OF THE
CONSEQUENCES.
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
I'M WILLING TO SIT HERE AND
ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
>> W-WELL, I THINK THE QUESTION
IS, WHO ARE YOU?
>> UH, I'M FRAMEL.
AND I WAS BORN FEBRUARY 19TH.
WHEN I WAS ABOUT 12, UM, I ENDED
UP GETTING INTO A ACCIDENT
TO WHERE I WAS HAVING SURGERY
AFTER SURGERY.
I COULDN'T WALK.
I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR
MYSELF.
I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING BUT LAY
DOWN AND EAT.
SO I GAINED A LOT OF WEIGHT.
NOT LONG AFTER THAT, I HIT A
PLACE TO WHERE I WOULD REALLY
LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SAY,
"I HATE MYSELF."
AND I THOUGHT I WASN'T WORTH
ANYTHING.
THAT WAS A MAJOR POINT IN MY
LIFE.
AND AFTER THEN, I DEALT WITH A
LOT OF PAIN, BECAUSE ME LIKING
GUYS WAS REALLY WRONG, I GUESS,
FOR ME AND MY FAMILY, BECAUSE...
[sniffles]
[sighs]
BEING HOMOSEXUAL WAS AGAINST
GOD.
IT DEVELOPED INTO ME BEING
CONFUSED THAT I BECAME A PERSON
I DIDN'T WANNA BE.
I WAS HOLDING IT ALL IN.
AND SO WHEN I MET ANTHONY, I
HAD SOMEBODY TO TALK TO.
HE WAS ALWAYS THERE.
AND HE WAS A PERSON THAT I
CONFIDED IN A LOT.
THOUGH THE PICTURE WAS NOT REAL,
THE FEELINGS, THE EXPERIENCE,
ALL OF THAT WAS VERY MUCH REAL
FOR ME.
THAT--THAT WAS--THAT WAS REAL.
AND I REALLY NEED YOUR
FORGIVENESS.
I NEED YOUR FORGIVENESS, SO I
CAN MOVE ON.
I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER WAY TO
PUT IT.
>> WELL, I ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY,
AND I FORGIVE YOU.
>> [sniffles]
[sighs]
>> I JUST WANTED SOME ANSWERS.
AND I FEEL LIKE I PRETTY MUCH
GOT 'EM.
SO, I MEAN, I'M IN A DECENT
PLACE RIGHT NOW.
SO I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHERE I
NEEDED TO BE.
>> FOR ME TO BE FORGIVEN BY AN
AMAZING PERSON IS MORE THAN I
CAN ASK FOR.
SO I'M JUST GRATEFUL AND EXCITED
TO GO ON WITH LIFE.
>> I'M GONNA TAKE A PICTURE OF
YOU GUYS REALLY QUICK.
>> * WE'LL GO ANYWHERE *
>> OKAY.
NICE TO MEET YOU.
[indistinct chatter]
>> * I'LL PACK THE CAR *
>> ALL RIGHT, FRAMEL.
BYE.
>> BYE.
>> * YOU'LL LET DOWN YOUR HAIR *
>> AW, I NEED A HUG.
*
>> * WE'RE GONE AWAY FOR GOOD *
* TONIGHT
*
>> YO.
>> YO.
MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING.
HOW ARE Y'ALL?
>> WHAT'S THE FORECAST FOR
ANTHONY?
WHAT--WHAT'S THE FUTURE HOLD FOR
YOU?
WHAT ARE YOU SORT OF HOPING TO
DO?
>> I'M KINDA TAKING MY TIME.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO JUMP INTO
ANYTHING WITH ANYBODY.
I JUST NEED TO WORK ON ME,
PERIOD.
>> DO YOU MISS MARQ AT ALL?
I MEAN, DO YOU MISS HAVING THAT
KIND OF A PERSON IN YOUR LIFE?
>> I KINDA DO.
BUT ALL I THINK ABOUT IS HOW
ANGRY I WAS WHEN ALL OF THAT
WAS GOING ON.
>> SO ENDING THAT RELATIONSHIP
WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF THE BEST
THING THAT COULD HAPPEN.
>> YEAH, AND I ACTUALLY GREW
FROM IT.
AND I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT
MYSELF.
>> HEY, FRAMEL.
>> HEY, FRAMEL.
>> HI.
>> HOW YA DOING?
>> I'M DOING GOOD.
I WAS SCARED TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE
REALLY THOUGHT OF ME.
AND ONCE I DID, IT WASN'T THE
BAD RESULTS THAT I THOUGHT I
WAS GONNA GET.
I'M ACTUALLY SEEING SOMEBODY,
UH, RIGHT NOW.
>> WOW.
>> HE REALLY CARES ABOUT ME.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I
ACTUALLY NEEDED.
>> DO YOU MISS YOUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH ANTHONY?
>> I REALLY DO.
THERE'S NOT A DAY GOES BY THAT I
DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.
BUT I CAN'T DWELL ON THAT.
I MEAN, JUST HAVE TO MOVE ON.
>> IT'S NICE TO KNOW YOU SORT OF
REALLY TURNED THE CORNER.
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR KIND OF
FIRST REAL, IN-PERSON
RELATIONSHIP.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT, FRAMEL.
>> ALL RIGHT, BYE.
>> SEE YA.
>> BYE, FRAMEL.
>> BYE.
>> WHEN I WAKE UP, SHE'S THE ONE
THAT I THINK ABOUT.
AND I WANNA SEE WHO I FELL IN
LOVE WITH.
>> HAVE YOU EVER JUST SENT HER
MONEY?
>> I GAVE HER MY BANK
INFORMATION.
>> JESUS, MAN.
>> THAT'S HER.
>> both: SAME GIRL.
>> YOU THINK RAMON'S GONNA BE
SURPRISED?
>> I THINK HE'S GONNA BE
SHOCKED.
>> MY NAME IS NEV, AND I'M
MAKING A SHOW CALLED CATFISH.
[phone beeps]
DID SHE JUST HANG UP?
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