The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (2010–…): Season 2, Episode 23 - Reunion Part 3 - full transcript
Kim Richards exclusively reveals to Andy Cohen, "I am an alcoholic" and discusses life after rehab. Later in the show, housewife friend Dana Wilkey also appears to recount with her recollection of Game Night followed by the husbands who field viewer questions.
- TONIGHT,
THE REUNION CONCLUDES.
- SHE'D KIND OF BEEN POKING...
- ME?
- ALL EVENING. YEAH, YOU.
- "DID YOU KNOW? 25,000."
- SHE SAYS, "I WANT TO SLEEP
WITH YOUR HUSBAND."
- I DO.
- THAT'S WHAT SHE SAYS.
- HE GRABBED ME,
THREW ME IN THE POOL,
HELD ME UNDER UNTIL I WAS...
ALMOST DROWNING.
- AND KIM RICHARDS SPEAKS.
CAN YOU TELL US
WHAT YOU SOUGHT TREATMENT FOR?
- YEAH.
I'M AN ALCOHOLIC.
TAYLOR, WE MENTIONED EARLIER
THAT YOU JUST FINISHED A BOOK.
RIGHT AFTER RUSSELL'S DEATH,
HIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATE
ALSO COMMITTED SUICIDE.
- MM-HMM.
- DO YOU THINK THE TWO
WERE RELATED?
- I HAVE NO IDEA
WHAT THE LINK IS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT THINK
THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN I KNOW.
AND THEY'VE ASKED ME TO COME
AND MEET WITH THEM.
I HATE TO SAY IT,
BUT IT WOULD GIVE ME
GREAT SOLACE TO THINK
THAT THIS WAS AT THE HANDS
OF SOMEONE ELSE,
AS OPPOSED TO MY HUSBAND
BEING IN SUCH DESPAIR
THAT HE TOOK HIS OWN LIFE.
- OH, SO YOU THINK
THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY
THAT THIS COULD BE A MURDER.
- WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STOP.
- SO HAVING DISCOVERED HIM,
WHAT'S YOUR GUT?
- HE WAS SUCH A TOUGH GUY,
AND I FIND IT REALLY HARD
TO BELIEVE
THAT SOMEONE COULD CONVINCE HIM
TO DO SOMETHING
HE DIDN'T WANT TO DO,
WITHOUT
A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FIGHT.
- A PART OF YOUR BOOK
THAT REALLY SURPRISED ME
WAS THAT YOU TALK ABOUT
THAT RUSSELL USED TO
MONITOR YOU, SECRETLY.
- MM-HMM.
- HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?
- I GUESS THE FIRST TIME
I FOUND RECORDING DEVICES,
I WAS TRYING TO PRINT A DOCUMENT
AND IT WASN'T CONNECTING.
THE COMPUTER AND THE PRINTER
HAD LOST THE CONNECTION.
SO I CRAWLED UNDER THE DESK.
AND I LOOKED UP
AND I SAW A RECORDING DEVICE...
A SMALL TAPE RECORDER...
ATTACHED TO THE BOTTOM
OF THE DESK.
AND I PULLED IT DOWN.
AND HE HAD BEEN RECORDING ME
EVERY DAY
WHEN HE LEFT FOR WORK.
- JUST ALL DAY LONG?
- MM-HMM.
'CAUSE HE KNEW I'D BE
IN THE OFFICE ALL DAY.
AND IT, YOU KNOW,
WENT ON FROM THERE.
I HAD HOUSEKEEPERS
FIND RECORDING DEVICES.
I HAD RECORDING DEVICES
IN MY CARS.
- HE ACTUALLY HAD YOU TAKE
A LIE DETECTOR TEST ONCE...
TO PROVE WHAT?
- I TOOK A POLYGRAPH TEST, UM,
AFTER A FEW YEARS
OF HIM ACCUSING ME
OF HAVING RELATIONSHIPS
WITH PEOPLE
THAT I HADN'T HAD
RELATIONSHIPS WITH.
AND FINALLY... HE KEPT SAYING
"I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU
TAKE A LIE DETECTOR...
I'M GOING
TO MAKE YOU TAKE A LIE..."
AND FINALLY,
ONE DAY I JUST SAID,
"TAKE ME." AND SO WE WENT. AND...
- AND YOU PASSED, RIGHT?
- 100%.
THE QUESTIONS WERE RIDICULOUS.
- AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED
AFTER YOU PASSED?
- ABOUT A MONTH LATER HE SAID,
"I'M CONVINCED THAT YOU KNOW
HOW TO CHEAT A POLYGRAPH."
THAT, OR A PAID OFF
THE EXAMINER.
- YOU ALSO GO INTO DETAIL
ABOUT HOW HE WENT ON THE ATTACK
WHEN HE OVERHEARD YOU TALKING
TO SOMEONE
WHO WAS OFFERING YOU HELP.
- MM-HMM.
- WHAT HAPPENED THERE?
- I WAS AT MY FRIENDS' HOUSE.
THEY WERE PLANNING
THEIR WEDDING.
AND I WAS SITTING,
IN THEIR BACKYARD,
WITH RUSSELL. UM, HE WENT HOME,
AND I STAYED TO LISTEN
TO THE REST
OF THE WEDDING PLANNING,
'CAUSE HE WASN'T INTERESTED.
AND APPARENTLY HE WAS HIDING
IN THE BUSHES.
AND HER FIANCE SAID,
"WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED
ABOUT YOU,
AND WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW"...
AS THEY WERE WALKING ME OUT...
"IF YOU NEED ANY HELP,
WE'RE HERE FOR YOU.
WE'LL GET YOU AN APARTMENT...
WHATEVER YOU NEED."
AND I SAID,
"JUST TAKE CARE OF KENNEDY
IF ANYTHING HAPPENS." AND, UH...
UM, SORRY.
HE JUMPED OUT OF THE BUSHES,
HIT MY FRIEND'S HUSBAND
IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD
SEVERAL TIMES,
GRABBED ME,
THREW ME IN THE POOL,
HELD ME UNDER UNTIL I WAS...
ALMOST DROWNING.
AND BY THAT POINT,
THE FRIEND HAD COME TO
AND WAS STARTING TO...
I THINK HE THREW HIM IN FIRST,
AND THEN HE WAS STARTING
TO MAKE HIS WAY
OUT THE END OF THE POOL.
UM, SO HE LET ME GO.
THREW MY GIRLFRIEND IN THE POOL,
THREW THE DOG IN THE POOL.
WENT AND STARTED A FIGHT,
AND THE GUY ENDED UP
GETTING TAKEN AWAY
IN AN AMBULANCE.
UM, PLASTIC SURGERY HERE...
$10,000 IN VENEERS.
- SO DID YOUR FRIEND
PROSECUTE RUSSELL FOR THIS?
- NO, BECAUSE
I ASKED THEM NOT TO.
I ASKED THEM NOT TO...
TO DO ANYTHING,
BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED
ABOUT HOW KENNEDY AND I
WOULD SURVIVE.
- BENNETT FROM GREEN BAY SAID,
"TAYLOR, YOU CLAIM
THAT CAMILLE EXAGGERATED
"WHAT YOU TOLD HER
ABOUT RUSSELL'S ABUSE.
HOW SO?"
- IT WAS NOT AN EXAGGERATION,
I GUESS.
WHAT I MEANT WAS,
I SAID HE DISLOCATED MY JAW,
SHE SAID "BROKE,"
AND SO RUSSELL FELT LIKE
THAT WAS, LIKE,
THE PERFECT THING
FOR HIM TO GO IN AND SAY,
"WE CAN MAKE HIM
TAKE IT OUT OF THE SHOW,
"BECAUSE SHE SAID 'BROKE'
AND IT WAS REALLY
JUST POPPED OUT OF THE SOCKET."
- I READ IN THE BOOK
THAT YOUR JAW WAS POPPED OUT
OF ITS SOCKET AND YOU
POPPED IT BACK IN YOURSELF?
- MM-HMM. OVER A TOILET.
- BRANDI, IN YOUR BLOG
YOU WROTE,
"AFTER MY PARTY IN MALIBU,
I DECIDED TO STAY AWAY
FROM THE WHOLE
TAYLOR AND RUSSELL SITUATION,
BECAUSE NOTHING
WAS ADDING UP TO ME.
WHAT'D YOU MEAN BY THAT?
- JUST NONE OF IT
MAKES SENSE TO ME.
I GUESS I'M IN THE GROUP
THAT THINKS THAT IT ALL
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
IT FREAKS ME OUT AS WELL,
BECAUSE HE CAN'T DEFEND HIMSELF.
AND I JUST FEEL LIKE...
I DON'T EVEN WANT
TO TALK ABOUT IT.
LIKE, THAT'S HOW I FEEL
ABOUT THE WHOLE SITUATION.
- SO HAVING...
- WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS.
IT CREEPS US OUT ALTOGETHER.
- IT CREEPS US OUT.
- THE WHOLE THING,
'CAUSE IT'S SO HORRIFIC.
- I'M SORRY WHAT I SAID
ABOUT YOUR BOOK.
BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING
ABOUT THE...
ME SLASHING TIRES.
- I SAID THAT AFTER.
YOU SAID THE BOOK THING FIRST.
- NO, I'M SAYING, "WHEN
SOMEONE BITES, I BITE BACK."
- NO, WAIT.
YOU SAID THE BOOK THING FIRST.
- I JUST SAID I WAS SORRY.
- OKAY, BUT YOU SAID IT FIRST.
SO I'M SORRY TOO.
- I'M SAYING, "I'M SORRY."
- OKAY.
- KATHY FROM MEMPHIS SAID,
"TAYLOR, LET ME
GET THIS STRAIGHT.
"RUSSELL ABUSED YOU
AND SMASHED YOUR HEAD,
"YET YOU STAYED WITH HIM.
BUT THE MOMENT YOU WERE GOING
"TO GET TOSSED
OUT OF YOUR HOUSEWIVES CIRCLE,
"BECAUSE OF RUSSELL
THREATENING A LAWSUIT,
YOU FINALLY MOVED OUT.
WHAT GIVES?"
- IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
UM, I HAD AN MRI RESULT
WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT I HAD
AN ORBITAL FLOOR BLOW-OUT.
AND I NEEDED TWO...
A CRANIOFACIAL
RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGEON
AND AN ORBITAL
RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGEON
TO RECONSTRUCT MY ORBITAL FLOOR,
AND I COULD HAVE LOST MY EYE.
THAT'S WHAT MADE ME LEAVE.
IT HAD NOTHING TO DO
WITH THE HOUSEWIVES.
- I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN
REALLY DIFFICULT
TO REEXAMINE, AND SO...
- YOU KNOW WHAT, THOUGH?
IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME, ANDY,
BECAUSE I'M...
I HAVE RECOGNIZED NOW
THAT I WAS LIVING
IN A VERY UNHEALTHY ENVIRONMENT
AND I DRUG A LOT
OF MY FRIENDS INTO IT.
AND I HAVE A LOT
OF REMORSE FOR THAT.
AND I HAVE REMORSE
FOR MY HUSBAND'S DEATH
AND REMORSE FOR LETTING MY CHILD
LIVE IN A DANGEROUS SITUATION.
AND SO NOW
I'M JUST DUSTING MYSELF OFF
AND HOPING THAT PEOPLE
CAN FORGIVE AND FORGET.
AND PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE ME
HAVEN'T LIVED A DAY IN MY SHOES.
- WELL, BEST OF LUCK.
- THANK YOU.
- JOINING US NOW IS A FRESH FACE
ON THE 90120 HOUSEWIVES SCENE.
IT IS DANA/PAM. - WHOO!
- HEY, DANA.
- HEY, HOW ARE YOU?
- GREAT, HOW ARE YOU?
- GOOD.
- YOU LOOK FIRED UP
AND READY TO GO.
- I'M READY. LET'S DO SOMETHING.
- WOW. [laughter]
OH, MY GOD.
DARE I ASK
WHO YOU'RE WEARING TONIGHT?
- I'M NOT TELLING.
- ACTUALLY, CHECK OUT HER SHOES.
- NO, I'M NOT TELLING!
- NO, NO, NO.
- NO, I'M NOT TELLING
EVER AGAIN.
- SHOW THE SHOES.
- OH, THIS IS HOW I FEEL,
ALL SEASON LONG,
BUT I NEVER SAY IT.
[laughs]
- YOU BASICALLY DO SAY IT.
- [laughs] I DO, RIGHT?
- YOUR SHOES SAY, UM...
- THE "EFF U" WORD. [laughs]
- "EFF U," BASICALLY, YES.
- THEY'RE ACTUALLY
A MIDDLE FINGER
WITH A DIAMOND ON IT.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS HOT.
- PERFECT. THAT'S PERFECT.
- JUST CLASSIN' IT UP
A LITTLE HIGHER.
- EXACTLY, EXACTLY.
WELL, BEING THE NEW GIRL
ON THE BLOCK IS NEVER EASY,
BUT DECKED OUT
IN HER $25,000 SHADES,
VALENTINO HOT PANTS,
AND MILLION-DOLLAR
LOLLIPOP HOLDER,
DANA HAS DEFINITELY ANNOUNCED
THAT SHE'S ARRIVED.
- I'M DOING, LIKE,
A SUPER-MEGA-WEDDING.
I'M RENTING OUT A CASTLE.
IT'LL BE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF PARIS.
I'M STILL TRYING
TO BE A PRINCESS.
- DANA LIKES THINGS
OVER THE TOP.
SHE'S DEFINITELY OUT THERE.
SHE'S NOT AFRAID
TO BE WHO SHE IS.
AND, I THINK, THE MORE OVER
THE TOP THE BETTER, FOR HER.
- I LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE ON.
- THIS IS VALENTINO.
SO IT'S 125 KARATS
OF PERFECT DIAMOND.
IT'S FOR SALE
FOR A MILLION DOLLARS.
- LOOK AT THOSE
BEAUTIFUL GLASSES.
- AND THEY WERE 25,000.
DID YOU KNOW? 25,000.
- INSANE.
- THAT'S RIGHT.
- MOST PEOPLE THAT HAVE
A LOT OF MONEY
DON'T REALLY BRAG TOO MUCH
ABOUT IT.
AND THAT'S THE HONEST TRUTH.
- LISTEN, KIM, I LIKE YOU.
YOU WANT TO DO,
LIKE, A HEALTHY, SAFE THING?
LIKE ALL OF US?
A HEALTHY, SAFE VACA?
LET'S DO IT.
- DANA WAS REALLY,
REALLY, REALLY FAR UP
KIM AND KYLE'S ASSES.
- WE'RE TOGETHER FOREVER...
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT,
ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
- WHO?
[laughter covers video audio]
- AND A MILLION OTHERS.
WE'RE ALWAYS... FOREVER...
THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
[laughter]
- WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?
- I WAS THINKING,
"WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WOMAN?
WHAT'S SHE TALKING ABOUT?"
- I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS
TALKING ABOUT EITHER.
I WAS HAMMERED.
- SHE WAS LIKE,
"COME ON, LET'S JUST DO IT."
- I WAS LIKE,
"SAFE AND HAPPY, LET'S DO IT."
- ACTUALLY,
YOU DO A GREAT IMPERSONATION
OF... OF DANA. CAN YOU DO IT?
- "25,000. DID YOU KNOW?
25,000."
- WELL, DANA,
IT DOESN'T TAKE A BABY GENIUS
TO KNOW WHAT
THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION
COMING YOUR WAY IS.
ERIC IN JERSEY CITY
SAID IT BEST.
"$25,000 FOR SUNGLASSES?
"ARE YOU OUT
OF YOUR EFF-ING MIND?
DON'T YOU HAVE BETTER THINGS
TO SPEND YOUR MONEY ON?"
- WELL, I MEAN, I DIDN'T THINK
IT WAS SUCH A BIG DEAL,
TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I MEAN, I LOOKED AROUND
AT THE GIRLS.
AND SHE'S GOT A JET, A CASINO,
A $25-MILLION HOUSE.
GIGGY'S GOT A BETTER WARDROBE
THAN I DO, FRANKLY.
IT'S NOT LIKE
WE'RE A PRACTICAL GROUP,
SO I THOUGHT, "WHY NOT?"
YOU KNOW?
- CAMILLE, YOU SAID MOST PEOPLE
WHO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY
DON'T BRAG TOO MUCH ABOUT IT.
- DO YOU THINK DANA BRAGGED
TOO MUCH?
- IN THE BEGINNING, YES.
- WELL, YOU KNOW,
THEY'RE NOT, LIKE,
LOW-KEY, HUMBLE CHICKS EITHER.
I MEAN, LOOK AT THEM.
- YEAH, BUT IT IS A BIT WEIRD.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU WERE SAYING
THE PRICES.
I MEAN, THAT WAS A BIT WEIRD.
- WELL, I MEAN,
YOUR DOG WEARS ATTIRE
FOR EVERY... EVENT,
AND THAT'S NOT WEIRD TO YOU.
- 'CAUSE HE'S GOT ALOPECIA.
AND HE HAS LITTLE...
BUT IT IS A BIT WEIRD.
YOU KNOW HE'S GOT ALOPECIA.
- ACTUALLY, I LEFT HOME
AT 15, OKAY.
AND I BUILT MY WHOLE LIFE
AND MY COLLEGE,
AND YOU GUYS
DON'T KNOW THAT ABOUT ME.
BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER
IS I REALLY AM PROUD OF MYSELF.
AND I DO SCREAM MONEY,
YOU KNOW, SO, YEAH,
I GUESS THAT'S MAYBE TACKY OF ME
BUT THAT'S...
THAT'S WHO I AM,
BECAUSE OF THAT.
- WHERE'D YOU GROW UP?
- I GREW UP
IN METHUEN, MASSACHUSETTS.
IS ANYONE FROM THERE?
AND THEN, UM, WHEN MY MOM DIED
IN A CAR ACCIDENT,
UM, I MOVED TO NEW YORK CITY.
AND I LITERALLY WAS LIVING
TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT LIVES.
MY MOM WAS POOR,
MY DAD WAS RICH.
AND I LITERALLY
WAS IN THE WORST SCHOOL
IN, PROBABLY, THE COUNTRY.
AND I MOVED TO NEW YORK
TO LIVE WITH MY DAD.
AND I ENDED UP
AT NIGHTINGALE-BAMFORD,
ONE OF THE THIRD BEST. - WOW.
- AND SO I'M TWO PEOPLE
ALL THE TIME.
I'M A GUY WHO'S, LIKE,
REALLY NOT FROM ANYTHING,
THAT WANTS SO BAD TO BE A PART
OF SOMETHING THAT'S SO AMAZING...
THE MONEY AND THE GLAMOUR
AND ALL THIS.
AND THEN I'M ALSO A GUY
WHO WAS RAISED IN IT
AND MY FACE WAS SHOVED IN IT,
BECAUSE WHEN I WENT
TO SCHOOL AT NIGHTINGALE,
BELIEVE ME,
I WENT WITH THE TOP PEOPLE
WITH SO MUCH MONEY.
AND THEY HAD 80 MILLION
BENETTON SWEATERS
AND EVERYTHING.
AND I JUST WANTED
TO BE A PART OF THAT.
- INTERESTING.
- WOW, THAT EXPLAINS A LOT.
- IT DOES.
- YEAH, DOESN'T IT?
- THAT'S INTERESTING.
- THANKS.
- MADISON FROM GALVESTON WRITES,
"DANA, YOU MAY BE
A PARTY PLANNER,
"BUT GAME NIGHT PROVED
"THAT YOU WEREN'T
A GREAT HOSTESS.
"NOT ONLY DID YOU ALLOW BRANDI
TO GET ATTACKED,
"YOU JOINED IN.
"ARE YOU SO DESPERATE
FOR FRIENDS
THAT YOU CONDONE BULLYING
IN YOUR HOUSE?"
- I HAVE A LITTLE BIT
OF A DIFFERENT OPINION
OF WHAT HAPPENED ON GAME NIGHT.
KIM CAME TO THE DOOR.
KYLE WAS REALLY CONCERNED
ABOUT MAKING SURE
THAT SHE LOOKED GOOD.
BRANDI KEPT CALLING OUT THE FACT
THAT THEY WERE GOING
IN THE BATHROOM...
BEING LIKE, "OH,
THEY'RE GOING IN THE BATHROOM.
BATHROOM, BATHROOM."
KIND OF MAKING IT SEEM
LIKE THERE WAS DRUGS
OR SOMETHING GOING ON.
SO WHEN KYLE KIND OF...
BACKLASHED A LITTLE,
IT DIDN'T SURPRISE ME,
BECAUSE SHE HAD KIND OF
BEEN POKING... - ME?
- ALL EVENING. YEAH, YOU.
- PAM?
- YES.
WATCH THE EPISODE.
- WATCH THE EPISODE?
- YEAH. [overlapping chatter]
- I WAS THERE. I INVITED YOU
EVEN AFTER YOU SAID
THAT MY FIANCE CHEATED.
SO I'M INVITING YOU
INTO MY HOUSE
AFTER YOU JOKED AROUND
ABOUT MY FIANCE CHEATING,
WHICH IS NOT REALLY
THAT APPROPRIATE.
AND I HAD YOU THERE.
AND THEN THE LEAST YOU COULD DO
IS BE A GOOD GUEST,
AND TRY TO BE NICE
AND FRIENDLY AND HAPPY.
BUT YOU'RE LIKE,
"OH, THERE THEY GO
"IN THE BATHROOM AGAIN.
"WONDER WHAT THEY'RE DOING
IN THE BATHROOM.
WHAT'S GOING ON
IN THE BATHROOM?"
SO WHEN KYLE SNAPPED
IT DIDN'T SURPRISE ME.
- WE CLEARLY HAVE
TWO DIFFERENT VIEWS
OF WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT.
- CLEARLY.
- IT'S TOO BAD.
- YOLANDA FROM AUSTIN SAID,
"TAYLOR, YOU'RE GOOD FRIENDS
"WITH DANA. WERE YOU SURPRISED
BY HOW SHE BRAGGED
AND BROWN-NOSED?"
- YOU KNOW WHAT? SHE'S ALWAYS...
BEEN A GOOD FRIEND TO ME.
- I THINK IT'S A COMPLIMENT
TO SOMEONE,
TO WANT TO BE THEIR FRIEND
AND PUT THEMSELVES OUT THERE.
I WAS COMPLIMENTING KYLE
AND KIM AND CAMILLE
BY SAYING, "HEY, I REALLY
WANT TO BE YOUR FRIEND."
AND I PUT MYSELF OUT THERE.
I'M NEVER GOING
TO BE ASHAMED FOR THAT.
AND I'LL KISS THEIR ASS
ALL OVER AGAIN,
'CAUSE THAT'S WHO I AM.
- DANA, THANKS FOR LETTING US
GET TO KNOW YOU
A LITTLE BIT THIS SEASON.
YOU'VE CERTAINLY BEEN
VERY FUN TO HAVE AROUND.
- THANK YOU.
- UP NEXT...
- SHE SAYS, "I WANT
TO SLEEP WITH YOUR HUSBAND."
- WHAT DO YOU FIND ATTRACTIVE
ABOUT KEN?
- [growling] EVERYTHING.
- JOINING US NOW
ARE THREE OF THE HUNKIEST
HOUSE-HUSBANDS
IN ALL OF BEVERLY HILLS.
PLEASE HELP ME WELCOME KEN...
[applause]
MAURICIO... - WHOO!
- AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST,
OUR BUDDY PAUL.
[cheering, applause]
- THE SEVENTH HOUSEWIFE!
- WELCOME, GUYS.
BY THE WAY,
WHILE I HAVE YOU HERE,
YOUR CONSULTATION WITH TAYLOR
ABOUT HER FACE,
IN THE FRONT GATE
OF LISA'S PLACE...
- ACTUALLY, PAUL,
CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE ME A FEEL?
- DO YOU WANT TO?
HOW IS HER FACE DOING?
- I'VE GAINED TEN POUNDS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
- ACTUALLY, WHAT I WAS DOING
WHEN SHE WANTED ME
TO LOOK AT HER,
I WAS LOOKING AT HER CHEEKS.
BECAUSE BIG CHEEKBONES...
BUT SHE WAS VERY,
VERY HOLLOW RIGHT HERE.
AND SO... AND IF YOU GAIN WEIGHT,
SHE'S GOING TO GAIN
IT RIGHT THERE.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU'RE STILL THIN.
- OKAY.
- YOU STILL NEED A LITTLE MORE.
JUST THAT.
- SEE YOU ON MONDAY, DOC.
- WEIGHT IS WHAT IT NEEDS,
NOT FILLER.
- I GAINED 10 POUNDS.
THE PROBLEM IS I DON'T GAIN IT
IN MY BOOBS
OR MY ASS OR MY FACE.
THE PROBLEM IS I JUST GAIN IT
IN MY MIDSECTION.
- AND YOUR LIPS.
- AND HER BIG TOE.
- I CAN'T SEE YOU OVERWEIGHT,
FOR SOME REASON.
I JUST CAN'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.
- OLIVIA FROM PASADENA, TEXAS
WRITES,
"KEN, ADMITTING
THAT YOU WOULD FEEL WEAK
"BY GOING TO A THERAPIST
IS HONEST,
"AND IT'S YOUR OPINION,
"BUT DON'T YOU SEE HOW IT FEEDS
INTO A NEGATIVE STEREOTYPE
ABOUT PEOPLE WHO GO TO THERAPY."
- YES, I DO.
OBVIOUSLY, THERAPY WORKS
FOR SOME PEOPLE...
A LOT OF PEOPLE.
IT JUST DOESN'T WORK FOR ME.
I CAN'T SEE MYSELF
SITTING IN A LITTLE ROOM
WITH A THERAPIST
WHO I DON'T KNOW
AND TELLING HIM
MY INNER SECRETS.
IT'S NOT FOR ME.
I'D RATHER SIT DOWN
WITH MY WIFE,
AS I'VE DONE FOR 30 YEARS,
AND TALK IT OUT.
- AND HAVE ME TELL YOU
HOW IT WORKS.
- YEAH.
AND THEN I DO WHAT I'M TOLD.
- AND YOU AND TAYLOR
HAVE OBVIOUSLY GOTTEN PAST THAT.
- OH, YEAH. I WASN'T HAVING A GO
AT TAYLOR,
AND I'VE TOLD HER THAT.
AND WE'RE... STILL FRIENDS.
- HAVING A GO AT ME?
- KYLE... TOOK ME TO TASK ON IT.
AND WE'LL STILL ALL FRIENDS.
- AMBER FROM FARGO SAYS,
"MAURICIO,
"DO RANDOM WOMEN STILL
SEND YOU NUDE PHOTOS?
OR HAS KYLE PUT PARENTAL
CONTROLS ON YOUR EMAIL ACCOUNT?"
- I HAVE NOT RECEIVED
ANY NUDE PHOTOS THIS YEAR.
- OH, YOU WILL NOW. [laughter]
- I'M STILL WAITING
FOR A COUPLE OF THEM,
BUT NOT THIS YEAR.
- YOU MAY START GETTING THEM,
BECAUSE ALL THESE GUYS
ARE SEXY IN THEIR OWN RIGHT,
BUT IT'S HARD TO IGNORE
WHAT SOME WOULD CALL
"THE MAGIC OF MAURICIO."
EVEN PAUL CAN'T ESCAPE IT.
WATCH THIS. - OH, MY GOD.
HONEY, I'M HOME.
- MAURICIO... MR. DEBONAIR.
MR. PROFESSIONAL GOLFER,
DEEP DIVER,
TENNIS PLAYER, DOWNHILL SKIER.
WHO KNOWS WHAT OTHER THINGS
ARE IN HIS FORTE.
MAURICIO,
TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, BUDDY.
[laughter]
- WHOO!
- OH, MY GOD!
OH, MY GOD!
- FOR SOME REASON,
WHEN HE TAKES OFF THAT SHIRT,
IT JUST DOESN'T
LOOK LIKE MAURICIO.
[laughter]
- YOU KNOW, HE'S NO MAURICIO.
- AMAZING.
[laughter]
- PAUL, HOW DOES IT FEEL
TO BE COMPARED TO MAURICIO?
- YOU KNOW,
WE CAN'T COMPARE EACH OTHER.
YOU KNOW, I'M A WONDERFUL
SURGEON, FOR GOD'S SAKES...
LOOK AT ME.
- SASHA FROM SACRAMENTO SAID,
"MAURICIO, I SAW ONLINE
THAT OUT OF ALL
"THE HOUSEWIVES SHOWS,
YOU WERE VOTED
"THE NUMBER ONE HOTTEST
HOUSE-HUSBAND.
DO YOU CARE TO GIVE
A THANK YOU SPEECH?"
[laughter]
- I'D LIKE TO THANK
ALL OF MY FANS OUT THERE.
- DING, DING, DING!
- I ALWAYS SAY
MY HUSBAND WAS JUST
A NICE, JEWISH BOY.
AND SINCE WE'VE DONE THIS SHOW,
HE'S TURNED INTO THIS,
HOT, LATIN LOVER
ACCORDING TO THE AUDIENCE.
I'M LIKE,
"WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED
TO MY HUSBAND?"
- CONNOR FROM LAS VEGAS SAID,
"KEN, IN HAWAII,
YOU AND BRANDI SEEMED
"TO HAVE REAL CHEMISTRY.
"IS SHE THE TYPE OF WOMAN
YOU WENT FOR
BACK IN YOUR WILD DAYS?"
[laughter]
- IN MY WILD DAYS I WENT
FOR ANY TYPE OF WOMAN.
- ANYBODY WHO WOULD SAY YES,
OR WHO HE WAS INTRODUCED TO.
- BUT I FIND THAT WOMEN...
I'M ATTRACTED TO...
[laughter] - WHAT ABOUT...
- I'M FAIRLY ATTRACTIVE
TO WOMEN, BUT, UH...
- YOU'RE ATTRACTIVE TO WOMEN?
- YES, I AM.
- YEAH, THEY WANT HIM.
- THEY WANT ME.
- EXACTLY.
- THAT IS WHY I WOULDN'T
TAKE MY SHIRT OFF...
IN CASE SHE ATTACKED ME.
- WHAT DO YOU FIND ATTRACTIVE
ABOUT KEN?
- [growling] EVERYTHING. I DO.
EVERYTHING.
- SHE'S VERY HONEST ABOUT THAT.
SHE SAYS, "I WANT
TO SLEEP WITH YOUR HUSBAND."
THAT'S WHAT SHE SAYS.
ABSOLUTELY. - YES, ALL THE TIME.
- LOOK AT HIM. HE'S BLUSHING.
[laughter]
- CHARLOTTE FROM DAVENPORT,
IOWA WRITES,
"KEN, WERE YOU DISAPPOINTED
THAT KYLE PUT THE KIBOSH
ON BRANDI'S BJ PARTY?
- UM...
- HE'S TURNING RED.
- I DON'T THINK
LISA WOULD HAVE GONE
TO A BJ PARTY.
SHE DOESN'T NEED TO. - EXACTLY.
- THAT'S NICE.
- SHE WAS THE TEACHER.
THAT'S WHY WE COULDN'T DO IT.
- BACK IN THE '70s.
YOU REMEMBER THAT ONE, RIGHT?
- YEAH, I THINK SO. [laughter]
- MONIQUE FROM AUGUSTA, GEORGIA
HAS A QUESTION ABOUT SEDRICK.
"KEN, DID YOU KEEP
A STRAIGHT FACE
WHEN SEDRICK TOLD YOU
HE WAS A LIFE COACH?"
[laughter
- UM, NO, I DIDN'T.
I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING
TO TELL ME
HE HAD A RICH BOYFRIEND,
OR HE WAS DOING THIS OR THAT
AND SUDDENLY TO COME OUT
WITH "I'M A LIFE COACH,"
I'M JUST LIKE...
I NEARLY FAINTED ON THE SPOT.
- WHY DO YOU THINK
HE SHOWED UP AT SUR?
TO APOLOGIZE
OR CAUSE A SCENE, OR WHAT?
- YOU NEVER KNOW WITH SEDRICK.
HE PROBABLY TURNED UP
FOR ATTENTION...
JUST TO GET ON CAMERA.
- I THINK, YEAH,
TO GET ON CAMERA,
AND IT WOULD PERPETUATE IT,
SO THAT WOULD GIVE HIM ANOTHER
CHANCE TO TELL ANOTHER STORY.
I MEAN, IT'S BEEN ENDLESS,
THE AMOUNT OF KIND OF ABUSE
WE'VE TAKEN IN THE PRESS
FROM HIM.
BUT I'VE NEVER HIT BACK,
BECAUSE IT'S POINTLESS.
- LAURIE FROM
ESSEX, VERMONT SAID
"MAURICIO, HOW'S YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH KIM NOW?
DID SHE EVER APOLOGIZE TO YOU?"
- WELL, MY RELATIONSHIP
WITH KIM,
RIGHT NOW, IS IN LIMBO.
A FORMAL APOLOGY
HASN'T OCCURRED.
I WOULD ASSUME
THAT ONCE KIM IS ALL GOOD,
THAT WE'LL BE ABLE
TO HAVE A SIT-DOWN CONVERSATION.
AND I REALLY HOPE
THAT WE'RE ABLE TO WORK IT OUT,
BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT FUN HAVING
A FEUD WITH A FAMILY MEMBER
OR HAVING ANY ISSUES
WITH A FAMILY MEMBER.
SO I REALLY DO HOPE THAT
WE'RE ABLE TO WORK THAT OUT.
- VERY GOOD.
WELL, MAURICIO, KEN AND PAUL,
THANKS FOR SPENDING
SOME TIME WITH US.
IT'S BEEN A GREAT TREAT.
THERE'S MORE AFTER THIS.
TONIGHT,
KIM RICHARDS COMES CLEAN.
- I DRANK AND THEN
I HAD GUILT AND SHAME.
AND THEN I DRANK
TO COVER THE GUILT AND SHAME.
- WELL, KIM FINISHED
HER STAY IN REHAB
JUST ONE DAY
AFTER WE TAPED THE REUNION.
AND SHE JOINS US NOW.
- ARE YOU READY?
- HI,
COME ON IN.
- READY? ALL RIGHT, I WILL.
CHECK 'EM OUT, CHECK 'EM OUT.
- WOW, YOU LOOK GREAT.
- OH, THANK YOU.
- HI.
- HOW ARE YOU? YOU LOOK GREAT.
- SO HAPPY TO SEE YOU.
COME ON IN.
SO HAPPY YOU'RE HERE.
- I'M SO HAPPY TO BE HERE.
- I BET.
- YEAH.
- ABSOLUTELY.
- YEAH.
- YOU LOOK HEALTHY.
- REALLY?
- YEAH, YOU DO.
- I'VE BEEN TAKING CARE
OF MYSELF.
- YOU FEEL HEALTHY?
- I DO.
- YEAH?
- I DO.
HAPPY TO BE HOME AND, UH...
I FEEL GOOD.
- WHEN I SPOKE TO KYLE,
SHE DIDN'T WANT TO SAY
WHAT YOU HAD GONE TO REHAB FOR.
SHE SAID, "THIS IS REALLY
FOR KIM TO SAY."
CAN YOU TELL US
WHAT YOU SOUGHT TREATMENT FOR?
- YEAH.
I'M AN ALCOHOLIC.
AND I DRINK.
I DRINK.
- HOW LONG HAS THIS
BEEN A PROBLEM FOR YOU?
- IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM
LONG ENOUGH
THAT I CAN SAY
THAT I'VE STRUGGLED WITH IT,
AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT
FOR A WHILE.
I HAD SO MUCH GUILT AND SHAME
FROM MY BEHAVIOR AND WHAT I DID.
AND THEN I DRANK TO COVER
THE GUILT AND SHAME
TO MAKE IT GO AWAY.
SO IT IS A VICIOUS CYCLE.
- YOU'VE SOUGHT TREATMENT
FOR THIS BEFORE.
- MM-HMM.
- HOW MANY TIMES
HAVE YOU BEEN THROUGH REHAB?
- THREE.
- THREE TIMES.
WHAT WAS IT ABOUT THE FIRST TWO
THAT DIDN'T TAKE, DO YOU THINK?
- I THINK THAT...
I WASN'T READY MAYBE?
I WASN'T READY.
I THOUGHT I WAS.
- WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS ONE
THAT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD
ABOUT IT.
- I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S...
ONE... THAT I'M READY,
AND OR... TWO... THIS IS JUST...
THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE
FOR ME, WHERE I WENT.
I AM A PERSON THAT HAS DONE IT
AND RELAPSED AND DONE IT.
AT LEAST I'M TRYING.
I'M REALLY TRYING.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T BLAME
PEOPLE FOR LOOKING AND GOING,
"OH, ANOTHER?
WHAT IS THIS GIRL..."
WELL, AT LEAST I'M NOT THERE...
I'M TRYING, YOU KNOW,
AND I'M DOING IT RIGHT NOW.
AND I FEEL CONFIDENT
IN THIS A LOT.
- WAS THERE
A FAMILY INTERVENTION?
- IT WAS, LIKE,
THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING.
AND MY DAUGHTER KIND OF WENT
TO THE OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS
AND JUST SAID,
"I THINK MOM SHOULD GO AWAY
OR SOMETHING."
BUT I ALREADY DECIDED
THAT I WANTED TO GO.
MY BEHAVIOR...
FROM THE MEDICATION
OR WHATEVER... I JUST FELT OFF.
- ANXIETY MEDICATION?
- MM-HMM.
I JUST DIDN'T LIKE ME ANYMORE,
AND...
I-I COULDN'T LOOK AT MYSELF
IN THE MIRROR ANYMORE.
- DO YOU STILL SUFFER
FROM HIGH ANXIETY
WHEN YOU ARE SOBER? - OH, YEAH.
- YOU DO?
- YEAH.
YOU KNOW, I'M ON MY MEDICATION.
AND IF I DON'T TAKE IT PROPERLY,
YEAH, IT CAN BE
ALL OVER THE PLACE.
- IT'S WITHIN YOUR PROGRAM,
THOUGH,
TO BE ON THESE MEDICATIONS?
- ACTUALLY, IT'S FROM... YEAH.
IT WAS FROM THE TREATMENT
CENTER... THEY PUT ME ON IT.
AND, YOU KNOW,
WHEN I CAME OUT, I THOUGHT,
"YOU KNOW WHAT?
I DON'T NEED THIS ONE
OR THAT ONE."
THAT'S JUST STUPID.
I TOOK MYSELF OFF A COUPLE AND
IT HAD A HORRIBLE SIDE-EFFECT.
- SO WHILE THE SHOW
WAS IN PRODUCTION,
YOU WERE DRINKING.
- WHEN I FIRST STARTED
THE SEASON,
I WAS STILL NOT DRINKING.
YOU COULD EVEN SEE
MY CONFIDENCE LEVEL,
AND HOW STRONG AND POWERFUL
I CAME IN.
- WELL, LET ME TALK ABOUT
THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON.
BECAUSE IN COLORADO,
YOU WERE REALLY THE VOICE
OF REASON WITH TAYLOR.
YOU WERE SAYING,
"SHE'S FALLING APART," SO...
- I WAS SOBER.
- AND I'M SO TERRIFIED
OF GOING BACK TO THAT.
- YOU'RE SMART, GIRL.
AND YOU HAVE GREAT
OPPORTUNITIES.
YOU NEED TO CHANGE THAT INSIDE,
AND SAY, "YOU KNOW WHAT?
- I'M TRYING.
- "NOTHING'S GOING
TO BRING ME DOWN."
AND THEN YOU COULD SEE,
JUST FROM MY BEHAVIOR,
WHERE I LOST MY CONFIDENCE
AND STARTED DRINKING
A LITTLE BIT.
LOOK WHO'S HERE.
I CAN... I'M NOT THAT GREAT
OF A SKIER, BUT...
I COULDN'T WATCH THE SHOW
AFTER I SAW THAT BEHAVIOR
COMING OUT OF MYSELF,
'CAUSE I WAS SO DISAPPOINTED
IN MY CHOICE... WHAT I'D DONE.
- WATCHING THIS SEASON,
IT SEEMED LIKE YOU WERE
EITHER PERENNIALLY LATE
OR ABSENT ENTIRELY.
WAS THIS A RESULT
OF YOUR SUBSTANCE ABUSE?
- UM...
MOST LIKELY, YEAH,
THAT'S A BIG SIGN
OF SOMEBODY THAT'S USING.
- RIGHT.
SO AT THE NIGHT OF BEAUTY,
YOU DESCRIBED TO PAUL
A LIST OF MEDICATIONS
THAT YOU WERE ON.
- I'M ON TRAZODONE, TOPAMAX,
AND I JUST STARTED LEXAPRO.
- WHAT WERE YOU
BEING TREATED FOR THEN?
- SEVERE ANXIETY
AND PANIC DISORDER.
THAT'S WHAT
I WAS BEING TREATED FOR.
- DO YOU THINK THAT THOSE PILLS
AFFECTED YOUR BEHAVIOR ALSO?
OR DO YOU THINK
IT WAS MAINLY ALCOHOL?
- IT WAS PROBABLY WHEN I
MIXED THE ALCOHOL WITH THOSE.
LIKE, FOR INSTANCE,
THE GAME NIGHT...
THAT WAS STRICTLY THE MEDICATION
THE DOCTOR GAVE ME.
I'M LOSING MY BALANCE, I CAN'T...
I LOOK AT PEOPLE,
I SEE... I CAN'T HEAR.
- BRANDI ACCUSED YOU,
AT GAME NIGHT,
OF BEING ON CRYSTAL METH.
- YES, SHE DID.
- WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH YOU?
- I JUST LEFT A 2 1/2-HOUR
DOCTOR SESSION.
FINALLY, HE GAVE ME
SOME MEDICATION IN HIS OFFICE.
AND WHEN I WALKED IN,
I TOLD EVERYBODY,
"BY THE WAY, I DON'T FEEL RIGHT.
I JUST LEFT THE DOCTOR
AND I TOOK SOME MEDICATION."
AND MY SISTER KYLE WAS LIKE,
"OH, KIM."
EVEN SHE SAID, "YOU SHOULDN'T
HAVE TAKEN THAT RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S A BEDTIME MEDICATION."
- THOUGH SHE APOLOGIZED
FOR THE ACCUSATION,
BRANDI THINKS
MAYBE IT HELPED YOU,
SINCE IT BROUGHT THE TOPIC
OUT IN THE OPEN.
- MAYBE I HELPED YOU.
- I ALSO THINK...
- I'M SERIOUS.
MAYBE IT GOT IT OUT THERE
THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM,
AND THEN EVERYONE
HAD TO ADDRESS IT.
- NO OFFENSE, BUT IT HAD
NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.
- I THINK
WHAT BRANDI HAS CAUSED,
FOR MY FAMILY AND MYSELF,
HAS NOT BEEN HELPFUL AT ALL.
- DO YOU FEEL LIKE
YOU OWE BRANDI AN APOLOGY?
- I GUESS I OWE HER AN APOLOGY
FOR HIDING HER CRUTCHES.
YES, I DO.
- DO YOU FEEL LIKE
SHE OWES YOU AN APOLOGY?
- IF I PUT IT ALL OUT THERE,
SHE OWES ME ONE
AND I OWE HER ONE.
THE DIFFERENCE IS I OWE HER ONE
FOR MOVING HER CRUTCHES,
AND SHE OWES ME ONE
FOR, BASICALLY,
HURTING ALL THE PEOPLE I LOVE.
- HOW DID SHE HURT YOU?
- ONE DAUGHTER JUST CRIED
AND THE OTHER ONE TOLD ME,
"YOU DON'T KNOW HOW HARD IT IS
TO WALK DOWN THE STREET."
SO IT'S JUST WHAT SHE DID
WAS JUST HORRIBLE,
HONESTLY, IN MY OPINION.
- WELL, REBECCA FROM HOUSTON
WANTED TO KNOW,
"KIM, WILL YOU FINALLY FORGIVE
BRANDI FOR HER COMMENTS,
OR AT LEAST ACT CIVIL
TOWARDS HER?"
- I WILL NEVER FORGET BRANDI...
FORGIVE HER FOR HER COMMENTS
OR FORGET IT, NO.
BECAUSE THEY WERE JUST
TOO DETRIMENTAL TO MY FAMILY.
WILL I EVER BE CIVIL TO HER?
ABSOLUTELY.
I WON'T EVER WALK THROUGH A ROOM
AND NOT ACKNOWLEDGE HER.
- BUT YOU WILL
NEVER FORGIVE HER.
- I WON'T.
- YOUR BEHAVIOR ON THE SHOW
WAS REALLY PUZZLING AT TIMES.
- YOU THINK?
- BOTH TO THE VIEWERS
AND TO THE OTHER WOMEN.
- WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
- [laughs]
- WHY ARE YOU GOING
TO THIS PLACE, ANDY?
I'M JUST CONFUSED
WHY YOU'RE GOING THERE.
- AND SPECIFICALLY AT SUR,
ON THE OPENING NIGHT,
WE GOT AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT
OF EMAILS FROM VIEWERS.
HAVE YOU SEEN THAT EPISODE?
- NO.
- NO? WHY NOT?
- WELL, AS I SAID,
I STOPPED WATCHING
RIGHT AFTER I SAW TOO MUCH
OF, LIKE,
JUST BEHAVIOR THAT WASN'T ME.
IT WASN'T ME.
- I HAVE CLIPS
OF THAT SUR EPISODE HERE.
DO YOU WANT TO SEE ANY?
IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU.
- OH, ALL RIGHT.
- YES?
- YEAH.
- UP NEXT...
HOW STRESSFUL WAS IT FOR YOU,
BEING ON THIS SHOW
WITH YOUR SISTER?
- SHE BEING EXPOSED
WAS DIFFICULT.
- I HAVE CLIPS
OF THAT SUR EPISODE HERE.
DO YOU WANT TO SEE ANY?
IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU.
- OH, ALL RIGHT.
- YES?
- YEAH.
- OKAY.
[toothbrush buzzes]
- A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
- WHY DO YOU HAVE
ALL THAT STUFF IN YOUR HANDS?
JESUS CHRIST.
[clunking]
HERE, JUST GIVE IT TO ME
IN THE TOWEL... THROW IT IN.
- PUT IT IN THAT SHOPPING BAG.
- JUST THROW IT IN.
- [sighs]
- LET'S GO.
OUT, OUT. COME ON.
KIM. COME ON, BABE.
- HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
- I LOVE THE BUTTONS.
OOH, WHAT'S ALL THIS?
- WHAT DO YOU...
- OH, MY GOD.
- WHAT IS ALL THAT?
- [strong exhale]
- LOOKS LIKE GARBAGE.
IT'S A GARBAGE CONTAINER.
- UM...
WELL, IT'S... - YEAH, I GET IT.
I GET IT. - NOT MY GARBAGE.
- IT'S GARBAGE.
- THAT'S...
- THAT'S FULL OF CRAP.
I SEE IT FROM... - EW!
IS THAT, LIKE, POOP?
I THINK I SHOULD
TAKE THE BRA OFF.
- NO.
- YES.
ALL RIGHT THAT'S ENOUGH. - OKAY.
WHAT'S IT LIKE TO SEE THAT NOW?
- I DON'T KNOW WHAT
THE HECK'S GOING ON THERE.
I FELT BAD FOR HER...
YOU KNOW.
IT'S JUST SAD.
AND I REALLY
JUST COULDN'T WATCH,
I COULDN'T BARE TO SEE...
IT WASN'T ME.
I DIDN'T HEAR...
THE VOICE WASN'T MINE,
THE MANNERISMS WEREN'T MINE.
- YOU DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOURSELF.
- NO. NOTHING ABOUT
THAT PERSON WAS ME.
- I WANT TO TALK TO YOU
ABOUT KEN A LITTLE BIT.
ARE YOU STILL TOGETHER?
- NO.
- NO?
- I WISH HIM THE BEST,
BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM
SINCE I'VE BEEN BACK.
- DID YOU MOVE OUT?
- YES, I DID.
- AND WHERE ARE YOU LIVING NOW?
- I'M IN A HOTEL,
AND I'M GETTING READY TO MOVE
OVER THE WEEKEND.
LAURIE FROM ARCADIA,
CALIFORNIA EMAILED
AND WANTS TO KNOW,
"KIM, CONSIDERING
"HOW EVERYTHING TURNED OUT,
"DO YOU THINK KYLE WAS RIGHT
ABOUT HOW KEN WASN'T
THE RIGHT MAN FOR YOU?"
- YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOVE SOMEONE
AND NOT BE ABLE
TO LIVE WITH THEM.
SO I THINK THAT WAS IT.
I WON'T SAY KYLE'S RIGHT
IN THIS...
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT.
- WILL YOU EVER SAY
KYLE'S RIGHT? - YES, I DO.
- HOW IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH YOUR KIDS THESE DAYS?
- UH, MY RELATIONSHIP
WITH MY KIDS RIGHT NOW
IS AWESOME, AWESOME.
- HOW HAS IT CHANGED
FROM WHAT IT WAS
THREE MONTHS AGO?
- OH, IT'S CHANGED A LOT.
ACTUALLY, IT'S CHANGED...
I THINK THAT, UM,
I THINK THAT THEY COULDN'T
BEAR TO BE AROUND
AND SEE WHERE I WAS AT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S HURTFUL
TO SEE SOMEBODY YOU LOVE
DOWN AND OUT.
SO, UM... MY KIDS, BASICALLY,
JUST STOPPED COMING OVER
TO MY HOUSE.
THEY STOPPED TALKING
TO ME A LOT.
ALMOST...
ANYWAY...
SINCE I GOT SOBER...
MY KIDS...
EVERY NIGHT NOW, IT'S LIKE
IF THEY'RE NOT WITH ME,
THEY'RE SENDING ME TEXTS.
"I LOVE YOU, MOMMY.
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, MOMMY."
AND I'M SO GRATEFUL.
- I WANT TO TALK TO YOU
ABOUT KYLE.
- OH, RIGHT.
HEH! OH, HER.
- WELL, KIM,
YOU AND YOUR SISTER KYLE
HAVE A VERY INTERESTING
RELATIONSHIP.
- YEP.
- LOVING...
INTENSE,
SOMETIMES A LOT OF FRICTION.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE
YOU ULTIMATELY COME TOGETHER.
AND KYLE IS HERE WITH US. KYLE?
- HI.
- HELLO.
- HOW ARE YOU?
- HAVE A SEAT.
Both: MWAH!
- HI, ANDY. [kisses]
- JOIN US.
- [sighs]
- WHEN YOU LOOK AT KIM NOW,
VERSUS WHEN YOU SAW HER, SAY,
AT SUR THAT NIGHT,
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?
- THIS IS THE REAL KIM.
THIS IS THE KIM
THAT I GREW UP WITH
AND THAT I LOVE.
AND THAT WAS A DIFFERENT KIM.
- [chuckles]
- YOU WERE THE PERSON
WHO FIRST SUGGESTED
KIM BE ON THE REAL HOUSEWIVES
OF BEVERLY HILLS.
- MM-HMM.
- IS THAT A DECISION
THAT YOU REGRET?
- I DON'T... NO, I DON'T.
BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENED
IN SEASON ONE
BETWEEN THE TWO OF US WAS...
IT WAS A VERY PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE
RELATIONSHIP GOING ON WITH US.
AND I THINK THAT WE HAD BUILT UP
SO MUCH ANIMOSITY.
I WAS ANGRY WITH KIM,
AND OBVIOUSLY SHE WAS ANGRY
WITH ME TOO.
SO I THINK, IN THE LONG RUN,
IT COULD HAVE HELPED
OUR RELATIONSHIP.
- AND KYLE SEEMS
TO HAVE A REAL THING
ABOUT THE BACK OF LIMOUSINES.
SO EITHER TAYLOR,
ME... LET ME TELL YOU...
- A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON.
- THIS IS A LOT OF... YEAH...
YEAH, SHE JUST LIKES
THE LIMOUSINE THING.
BUT, UM, HONESTLY, I THINK THAT
IT REALLY BROUGHT SO MUCH...
THAT WAS LIKE THIS HUGE...
JUST RELEASE OF INFORMATION
THAT WE BOTH HAD IN OUR HEADS,
THAT WAS JUST KIND
OF BLURTED OUT.
- WELL, HOW DO YOU FEEL NOW
ABOUT...
THE FACT THAT YOU BROUGHT UP
KIM'S ALCOHOLISM?
- I STILL FEEL BAD ABOUT THAT.
- HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT?
- I STILL FEEL REALLY BAD
ABOUT IT.
I JUST STILL FEEL THERE WAS
A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT.
- AFTER THAT ACCUSATION
WAS MADE IN THE LIMO,
THEN WE ALL GOT TOGETHER
AT THE REUNION LAST YEAR,
AND IT WAS SOMETHING
THAT YOU STILL WERE
ABSOLUTELY UNCOMFORTABLE
DISCUSSING.
WHY THE DIFFERENCE NOW
VERSUS AT THAT POINT,
AT THAT LAST REUNION?
- I THINK THAT...
AS I SAID TO YOU EARLIER...
THAT THERE'S THAT TIME OF
GUILT, SHAME, EMBARRASSMENT.
AND THE FIGHT... I JUST
COULDN'T BEAR TO TALK ABOUT.
WAY TOO PAINFUL.
AND WE WERE JUST KIND OF
SITTING IN THE SAME ROOM
FOR THE FIRST TIME.
AND I... - I THINK TOO,
THAT, UM, THE WAY WE WERE RAISED
WAS, YOU KNOW,
TO KEEP THINGS MORE PRIVATE.
AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING
THAT WE WANTED OUT THERE
FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO SEE.
IT WASN'T ANYBODY'S BUSINESS.
- I HAVE HAD TIME
TO SIT ON THAT.
AND, I'M NOT HERE TO DISCUSS
MY ARGUMENT WITH KYLE.
THAT'S PRIVATE.
BUT I AM HERE TO SAY
I'M AN ALCOHOLIC.
THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
- AND WHAT'S IT LIKE FOR YOU,
HEARING YOUR SISTER
SAY THOSE WORDS
IN FRONT OF CAMERAS?
- IT'S A BIG RELIEF.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S PART
OF HER ROAD TO RECOVERY,
IS BEING HONEST,
SO WHEN I HEAR HER TALK
LIKE THAT, I KNOW
THAT SHE'S ON THE RIGHT PATH.
- HOW STRESSFUL WAS IT
FOR YOU...
BEING ON THIS SHOW
WITH YOUR SISTER,
KNOWING PRIVATELY
WHAT SHE WAS GOING THROUGH?
- SHE WAS BEING EXPOSED.
AND IT WAS... IT WAS DIFFICULT.
BECAUSE, UM,
I STILL HAD A LOT OF ANGER,
AND I ALSO WAS
TRYING TO PROTECT HER
AT THE SAME TIME,
BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT
TO SET THINGS OFF
TO MAKE HER WORSE.
A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENED
ON GAME NIGHT,
TO BE HONEST, I HAD A LOT OF...
NERVOUS TENSION
EVERY TIME I WAS AROUND HER...
WORRIED AND ALSO PROTECTIVE
AT THE SAME TIME.
- DID YOU THEN RESENT HER
FOR TRYING
TO MAYBE OVERPROTECT YOU?
- I DON'T THINK THAT'S
WHAT I WAS ANGRY AT.
AND I DON'T FEEL...
I THINK THAT PART I LOVED,
YOU KNOW.
IT'S JUST WHEN SHE GOES GETTING
IN ALL MY BUSINESS...
WHEN SHE STARTS, YOU KNOW,
GETTING ALL ENTWINED.
- WELL, I'M CLOSE.
WE'RE ALL CLOSE
WITH EACH OTHER'S CHILDREN.
ALL OF OUR CHILDREN ARE...
- RIGHT.
YOU THINK YOU'RE THE MOTHER
TO MY FOUR.
- YEAH, AND YOU THINK THAT
YOU'RE THE MOM TO MINE TOO.
- OKAY, WAIT, OKAY.
- KIM, THE MOST NOTORIOUS
EXAMPLE OF YOU BEING LATE
WAS HAWAII.
WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON THERE?
- WHEN I FOUND OUT
THAT YOU COULDN'T USE
AN UN-VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE
AND YOU CAN USE A PASSPORT.
WELL, I HAD JUST MOVED.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
SO I COULDN'T FIND
MY PASSPORT IN THE MOVE.
- KYLE, IT'S AN EXPIRED
DRIVER'S LICENSE
AND I'M TRYING TO FIND
MY PASSPORT NOW.
THERE'S NOTHING ELSE I CAN DO.
I'VE HAD A BAD...
- WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
YOU DON'T HAVE AN ID
TO GET ON THE PLANE?
I THOUGHT YOU SAID
YOU FIXED THAT,
'CAUSE I ASKED YOU TO GO
TO THE DMV WITH ME
AND YOU SAID,
NO, YOU ALREADY FIXED THAT.
- WELL, I LIED TO YOU.
- YOU'VE TOLD ME ALREADY
THAT BY THAT POINT
YOUR SOBRIETY
HAD GOTTEN AWAY FROM YOU.
- MM-HMM.
- SO WOULD YOU PUT THIS
IN THAT BUCKET, OR...
- I WOULD, I WOULD.
BECAUSE EITHER WAY,
WHETHER I HAD BEEN DRINKING
THAT DAY OR NOT,
MY BEHAVIOR WAS THAT
OF AN ALCOHOLIC.
- ONCE KIM ARRIVED IN HAWAII,
SHE WANTED YOU TO LET IT ALL GO.
AND YOU COULDN'T.
- I COULD NOT.
- WHY ARE YOU SO WORRIED
ABOUT ME? ENJOY YOURSELF.
AND YOU'RE NOT ENJOYING
YOUR OWN LIVES.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK
TO YESTERDAY...
WHY... WHATEVER. WE'RE HERE. SO...
- WELL, IT'S [bleep].
- IT'S NOT [bleep].
- IT IS [bleep].
- OKAY, WELL IT'S [bleep].
- YOU GUYS...
- BECAUSE WE'D ALL
BEEN DISCUSSING IT.
IT WASN'T LIKE THE GIRLS
DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
WE WERE ALL TOGETHER.
THEY WERE THERE
FOR THE PHONE CONVERSATIONS
AND AT THE AIRPORT WITH ME.
SO WHEN SHE WALKED IN,
I EXPECTED HER TO SAY SOMETHING.
- WELL, HONESTLY, KYLE,
WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?
WE ALREADY MISSED IT.
I ALREADY SAID TO YOU
"I'M SORRY,"
AND YOU KNEW
HOW STRESSED OUT I WAS.
- TRAVELING, FLYING ALL TOGETHER
IS PART OF THE FUN. YOU KNOW,
GOING TOGETHER AND THEN
THE FIRST NIGHT THERE,
AND OUR DINNER, AND WAKING UP
AND HAVING BREAKFAST...
EVERYONE TOGETHER.
SHE WAS MISSING
A BIG PART OF OUR TRIP.
- AND I'M SORRY
FOR MISSING THE FLIGHT.
I'M SORRY FOR NOT BEING THERE.
OKAY, I'M SORRY. SO...
- BUT WHAT SHE WAS MISSING
IN ALL THAT, WAS THAT
I WANTED HER THERE.
- NO, I GOT THAT.
- OKAY.
- I DID.
- JUST MAKING SURE YOU KNEW.
- YOU TWO HAVE BEEN THROUGH
SUCH A RIDE
ON THIS SHOW TOGETHER.
- YOU CAN'T HELP IT
WITH HER AS A SISTER.
JUST JOKING.
- I'M HERE RIGHT NOW
TO LOVE YOU
AND BE SUPPORTIVE OF YOU.
I'M NOT HERE TO ARGUE WITH YOU.
- I'M JUST JOKING.
- I'M REALLY NOT.
- JUST THINK IT'S FUN TO...
- OKAY, WELL,
YOU PUT ME THROUGH A LOT.
[overlapping chatter]
- YOU PUT ME THROUGH EQUAL.
- I'M JUST CURIOUS.
WHEN YOU SAY THAT, WHAT DO YOU
THINK SHE'S PUT YOU THROUGH?
UP NEXT...
- I WENT TO GO GIVE HER A HUG,
AND IT WAS LIKE...
I COULD ALREADY FEEL
A VERY DIFFERENT KIM.
- NOW AT SUR, YOU TOLD KYLE
THAT YOU WERE GOING
TO HAVE A BABY.
- I SAID... NO, I DIDN'T SAY
I WAS GOING...
WELL, I ACTUALLY DID SAY
I WAS GOING...
- I JUST CAN'T EVEN START
WITH THAT.
- I WAS PRETTY SURE...
I WAS THREE MONTHS BEHIND.
AND SO, UM...
I THOUGHT MAYBE I MIGHT BE.
AND THEN I JOKED THEN,
BECAUSE I STILL DIDN'T KNOW.
"I'M GOING TO HAVE A BABY."
BUT I WAS JUST JOKING WITH HER.
- YOU DIDN'T SEEM LIKE
YOU WERE JOKING, ON THE SHOW.
- I'M GOING TO HAVE
ANOTHER BABY.
- WHY DON'T YOU TAKE
A [bleep] TEST.
- I'M TOO SCARED.
YEAH. I WAS LATE, SO...
BUT I WAS WRONG.
- YOU WERE...
- SHUT UP. STOP IT.
- GOD, YOU'RE SO RIDICULOUS.
- THANK GOD.
- I'M JUST CURIOUS.
WHEN YOU SAY THAT,
WHAT DO YOU THINK
SHE'S PUT YOU THROUGH?
- THAT'S SOMETHING
I DON'T WANT TO SAY.
OBVIOUSLY SHE'S ADMITTED
AND TALKED ABOUT HER ISSUES.
THAT AFFECTS FAMILIES.
ANYBODY WHO LIVES
WITH A FAMILY MEMBER
THAT THEY LOVE
WHO'S AN ALCOHOLIC
KNOWS THAT
THEY'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT.
AND IT'S VERY PAINFUL
FOR THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM.
AND THEN I BECOME ANGRY
AND I ACT DIFFERENTLY
TOWARD HER.
AND THEN SHE'S MAD AT ME
FOR THE WAY I'M ACTING,
BUT I CAN'T HELP IT.
- DO YOU UNDERSTAND
WHAT SHE'S SAYING?
- YEAH, BECAUSE WE WENT
THROUGH IT ON FAMILY WEEK.
IT'S LIKE, I DRINK
AND THEN SHE'S ANGRY
AND TREATS ME...
AND I TREAT HER...
MAYBE I DO THINGS
THAT AREN'T RIGHT
AND SHE'S UPSET.
THEN SHE TREATS ME MEAN,
'CAUSE SHE'S MAD.
- IT'S A VICIOUS CYCLE.
- AND THEN I GET MEAN.
THEN I'M ANGRY, HURT OR MAD.
AND THE THING IS
SOMETIMES, AS AN ALCOHOLIC,
WHEN I TREAT HER A CERTAIN WAY,
I DON'T REMEMBER, SOMETIMES,
EVERYTHING I SAID OR DID.
HER ANGER IS STILL THERE,
SO SHE'LL BE MEAN TO ME.
AND I'M SOBER THE NEXT DAY
AND I JUST DON'T GET
WHY SHE'S MAD.
AND SO IT'S
A VICIOUS CIRCLE AGAIN.
IT'S ANOTHER VICIOUS CIRCLE.
- WHAT IS IT ABOUT NOW
AND THIS TIME
THAT MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE...
HER SOBRIETY IS GOING TO STICK?
- BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T GO TO GET
HELP KICKING AND SCREAMING.
UM, WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH HER,
SHE... WANTED TO GO, CALMLY.
AND SHE WAS VERY POSITIVE
WHEN SHE HUGGED ME GOOD-BYE.
I THINK THAT...
[sobbing] I THINK THAT BOTH OF...
I WAS SO ANGRY WITH HER
FOR SO LONG.
AND SHE WAS ANGRY
WITH ME IN RETURN
FOR BEING ANGRY WITH HER.
AND THEN WHEN SHE LEFT
THAT DAY...
I WENT TO GO GIVE HER A HUG,
AND IT WAS LIKE...
I COULD ALREADY FEEL
A VERY DIFFERENT KIM.
IT WAS LIKE A COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT PERSON,
IT WAS, LIKE, NOT HUGGING HER
WITH ANGER INSIDE ANYMORE.
IT'S LIKE WE HUGGED EACH OTHER,
WE HELD EACH OTHER
FOR THE FIRST TIME
IN YEARS... YEARS...
AND I COULD TELL THAT SHE WAS
JUST IN A DIFFERENT MIND-SET.
[sighs]
WHEN I WENT TO VISIT HER,
I COULD JUST SEE
SHE WAS SERIOUS.
SHE WAS TAKING IT
VERY SERIOUSLY.
AND SHE WANTED TO BE THERE,
AND SHE WAS DOING
EVERYTHING SHE HAD TO DO.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN,
IT WAS LIKE...
THIS KIM THAT I HAD BEEN
SO ANGRY WITH WAS GONE,
AND THE SISTER THAT...
I GREW UP WITH...
LAUGHING AND, YOU KNOW,
PLAYING WITH...
WAS ALL OF A SUDDEN BACK.
WE COULD LAUGH
AND HAVE FUN AGAIN.
WHICH WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO
FOR A LONG TIME.
- WHAT'S YOUR REACTION THEN?
- IT FEELS REALLY GOOD.
IT'S WEIRD, BECAUSE
AS GOOD AS IT FEELS,
IT FEELS OVERWHELMING.
AND WHEN SHE TALKS
ABOUT THE HUGS...
I FELT SOMETHING
REALLY DIFFERENT AS WELL.
AND THAT'S WHY...
I JUST REALLY WANT THIS...
SO THAT YOU KNOW.
I'LL OWN MY STUFF,
BUT THE SOBRIETY'S MINE.
AND I'LL WORK REALLY HARD
FOR IT, EVERY DAY.
- THE OTHER DAY, UM,
KIM SAID SOMETHING TO ME.
SHE SAID, UM,
"I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW
THAT I'M BACK,
"AND I'M REALLY HAPPY
TO BE YOUR BIG SISTER AGAIN,
"'CAUSE I KNOW YOU NEED SOMEONE
"TO LOOK OUT
FOR YOU SOMETIMES TOO,
AND I'M HERE AGAIN."
SO... THAT FELT GOOD.
- WHAT A GREAT WAY
TO END THE SEASON...
WITH YOU BACK AND LOOKING
TOWARDS YOUR FUTURE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, KIM.
- THANK YOU.
- AND GREAT TO SEE YOU, KYLE.
- THANK YOU. both: THANKS, ANDY.
- YOU ALWAYS DO THAT.
- DITTO. [laughs]
- TO LEARN MORE
ABOUT THE HOUSEWIVES,
THE REUNION CONCLUDES.
- SHE'D KIND OF BEEN POKING...
- ME?
- ALL EVENING. YEAH, YOU.
- "DID YOU KNOW? 25,000."
- SHE SAYS, "I WANT TO SLEEP
WITH YOUR HUSBAND."
- I DO.
- THAT'S WHAT SHE SAYS.
- HE GRABBED ME,
THREW ME IN THE POOL,
HELD ME UNDER UNTIL I WAS...
ALMOST DROWNING.
- AND KIM RICHARDS SPEAKS.
CAN YOU TELL US
WHAT YOU SOUGHT TREATMENT FOR?
- YEAH.
I'M AN ALCOHOLIC.
TAYLOR, WE MENTIONED EARLIER
THAT YOU JUST FINISHED A BOOK.
RIGHT AFTER RUSSELL'S DEATH,
HIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATE
ALSO COMMITTED SUICIDE.
- MM-HMM.
- DO YOU THINK THE TWO
WERE RELATED?
- I HAVE NO IDEA
WHAT THE LINK IS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT THINK
THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN I KNOW.
AND THEY'VE ASKED ME TO COME
AND MEET WITH THEM.
I HATE TO SAY IT,
BUT IT WOULD GIVE ME
GREAT SOLACE TO THINK
THAT THIS WAS AT THE HANDS
OF SOMEONE ELSE,
AS OPPOSED TO MY HUSBAND
BEING IN SUCH DESPAIR
THAT HE TOOK HIS OWN LIFE.
- OH, SO YOU THINK
THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY
THAT THIS COULD BE A MURDER.
- WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STOP.
- SO HAVING DISCOVERED HIM,
WHAT'S YOUR GUT?
- HE WAS SUCH A TOUGH GUY,
AND I FIND IT REALLY HARD
TO BELIEVE
THAT SOMEONE COULD CONVINCE HIM
TO DO SOMETHING
HE DIDN'T WANT TO DO,
WITHOUT
A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FIGHT.
- A PART OF YOUR BOOK
THAT REALLY SURPRISED ME
WAS THAT YOU TALK ABOUT
THAT RUSSELL USED TO
MONITOR YOU, SECRETLY.
- MM-HMM.
- HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?
- I GUESS THE FIRST TIME
I FOUND RECORDING DEVICES,
I WAS TRYING TO PRINT A DOCUMENT
AND IT WASN'T CONNECTING.
THE COMPUTER AND THE PRINTER
HAD LOST THE CONNECTION.
SO I CRAWLED UNDER THE DESK.
AND I LOOKED UP
AND I SAW A RECORDING DEVICE...
A SMALL TAPE RECORDER...
ATTACHED TO THE BOTTOM
OF THE DESK.
AND I PULLED IT DOWN.
AND HE HAD BEEN RECORDING ME
EVERY DAY
WHEN HE LEFT FOR WORK.
- JUST ALL DAY LONG?
- MM-HMM.
'CAUSE HE KNEW I'D BE
IN THE OFFICE ALL DAY.
AND IT, YOU KNOW,
WENT ON FROM THERE.
I HAD HOUSEKEEPERS
FIND RECORDING DEVICES.
I HAD RECORDING DEVICES
IN MY CARS.
- HE ACTUALLY HAD YOU TAKE
A LIE DETECTOR TEST ONCE...
TO PROVE WHAT?
- I TOOK A POLYGRAPH TEST, UM,
AFTER A FEW YEARS
OF HIM ACCUSING ME
OF HAVING RELATIONSHIPS
WITH PEOPLE
THAT I HADN'T HAD
RELATIONSHIPS WITH.
AND FINALLY... HE KEPT SAYING
"I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU
TAKE A LIE DETECTOR...
I'M GOING
TO MAKE YOU TAKE A LIE..."
AND FINALLY,
ONE DAY I JUST SAID,
"TAKE ME." AND SO WE WENT. AND...
- AND YOU PASSED, RIGHT?
- 100%.
THE QUESTIONS WERE RIDICULOUS.
- AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED
AFTER YOU PASSED?
- ABOUT A MONTH LATER HE SAID,
"I'M CONVINCED THAT YOU KNOW
HOW TO CHEAT A POLYGRAPH."
THAT, OR A PAID OFF
THE EXAMINER.
- YOU ALSO GO INTO DETAIL
ABOUT HOW HE WENT ON THE ATTACK
WHEN HE OVERHEARD YOU TALKING
TO SOMEONE
WHO WAS OFFERING YOU HELP.
- MM-HMM.
- WHAT HAPPENED THERE?
- I WAS AT MY FRIENDS' HOUSE.
THEY WERE PLANNING
THEIR WEDDING.
AND I WAS SITTING,
IN THEIR BACKYARD,
WITH RUSSELL. UM, HE WENT HOME,
AND I STAYED TO LISTEN
TO THE REST
OF THE WEDDING PLANNING,
'CAUSE HE WASN'T INTERESTED.
AND APPARENTLY HE WAS HIDING
IN THE BUSHES.
AND HER FIANCE SAID,
"WE'RE REALLY CONCERNED
ABOUT YOU,
AND WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW"...
AS THEY WERE WALKING ME OUT...
"IF YOU NEED ANY HELP,
WE'RE HERE FOR YOU.
WE'LL GET YOU AN APARTMENT...
WHATEVER YOU NEED."
AND I SAID,
"JUST TAKE CARE OF KENNEDY
IF ANYTHING HAPPENS." AND, UH...
UM, SORRY.
HE JUMPED OUT OF THE BUSHES,
HIT MY FRIEND'S HUSBAND
IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD
SEVERAL TIMES,
GRABBED ME,
THREW ME IN THE POOL,
HELD ME UNDER UNTIL I WAS...
ALMOST DROWNING.
AND BY THAT POINT,
THE FRIEND HAD COME TO
AND WAS STARTING TO...
I THINK HE THREW HIM IN FIRST,
AND THEN HE WAS STARTING
TO MAKE HIS WAY
OUT THE END OF THE POOL.
UM, SO HE LET ME GO.
THREW MY GIRLFRIEND IN THE POOL,
THREW THE DOG IN THE POOL.
WENT AND STARTED A FIGHT,
AND THE GUY ENDED UP
GETTING TAKEN AWAY
IN AN AMBULANCE.
UM, PLASTIC SURGERY HERE...
$10,000 IN VENEERS.
- SO DID YOUR FRIEND
PROSECUTE RUSSELL FOR THIS?
- NO, BECAUSE
I ASKED THEM NOT TO.
I ASKED THEM NOT TO...
TO DO ANYTHING,
BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED
ABOUT HOW KENNEDY AND I
WOULD SURVIVE.
- BENNETT FROM GREEN BAY SAID,
"TAYLOR, YOU CLAIM
THAT CAMILLE EXAGGERATED
"WHAT YOU TOLD HER
ABOUT RUSSELL'S ABUSE.
HOW SO?"
- IT WAS NOT AN EXAGGERATION,
I GUESS.
WHAT I MEANT WAS,
I SAID HE DISLOCATED MY JAW,
SHE SAID "BROKE,"
AND SO RUSSELL FELT LIKE
THAT WAS, LIKE,
THE PERFECT THING
FOR HIM TO GO IN AND SAY,
"WE CAN MAKE HIM
TAKE IT OUT OF THE SHOW,
"BECAUSE SHE SAID 'BROKE'
AND IT WAS REALLY
JUST POPPED OUT OF THE SOCKET."
- I READ IN THE BOOK
THAT YOUR JAW WAS POPPED OUT
OF ITS SOCKET AND YOU
POPPED IT BACK IN YOURSELF?
- MM-HMM. OVER A TOILET.
- BRANDI, IN YOUR BLOG
YOU WROTE,
"AFTER MY PARTY IN MALIBU,
I DECIDED TO STAY AWAY
FROM THE WHOLE
TAYLOR AND RUSSELL SITUATION,
BECAUSE NOTHING
WAS ADDING UP TO ME.
WHAT'D YOU MEAN BY THAT?
- JUST NONE OF IT
MAKES SENSE TO ME.
I GUESS I'M IN THE GROUP
THAT THINKS THAT IT ALL
DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
IT FREAKS ME OUT AS WELL,
BECAUSE HE CAN'T DEFEND HIMSELF.
AND I JUST FEEL LIKE...
I DON'T EVEN WANT
TO TALK ABOUT IT.
LIKE, THAT'S HOW I FEEL
ABOUT THE WHOLE SITUATION.
- SO HAVING...
- WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS.
IT CREEPS US OUT ALTOGETHER.
- IT CREEPS US OUT.
- THE WHOLE THING,
'CAUSE IT'S SO HORRIFIC.
- I'M SORRY WHAT I SAID
ABOUT YOUR BOOK.
BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING
ABOUT THE...
ME SLASHING TIRES.
- I SAID THAT AFTER.
YOU SAID THE BOOK THING FIRST.
- NO, I'M SAYING, "WHEN
SOMEONE BITES, I BITE BACK."
- NO, WAIT.
YOU SAID THE BOOK THING FIRST.
- I JUST SAID I WAS SORRY.
- OKAY, BUT YOU SAID IT FIRST.
SO I'M SORRY TOO.
- I'M SAYING, "I'M SORRY."
- OKAY.
- KATHY FROM MEMPHIS SAID,
"TAYLOR, LET ME
GET THIS STRAIGHT.
"RUSSELL ABUSED YOU
AND SMASHED YOUR HEAD,
"YET YOU STAYED WITH HIM.
BUT THE MOMENT YOU WERE GOING
"TO GET TOSSED
OUT OF YOUR HOUSEWIVES CIRCLE,
"BECAUSE OF RUSSELL
THREATENING A LAWSUIT,
YOU FINALLY MOVED OUT.
WHAT GIVES?"
- IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
UM, I HAD AN MRI RESULT
WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT I HAD
AN ORBITAL FLOOR BLOW-OUT.
AND I NEEDED TWO...
A CRANIOFACIAL
RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGEON
AND AN ORBITAL
RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGEON
TO RECONSTRUCT MY ORBITAL FLOOR,
AND I COULD HAVE LOST MY EYE.
THAT'S WHAT MADE ME LEAVE.
IT HAD NOTHING TO DO
WITH THE HOUSEWIVES.
- I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN
REALLY DIFFICULT
TO REEXAMINE, AND SO...
- YOU KNOW WHAT, THOUGH?
IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME, ANDY,
BECAUSE I'M...
I HAVE RECOGNIZED NOW
THAT I WAS LIVING
IN A VERY UNHEALTHY ENVIRONMENT
AND I DRUG A LOT
OF MY FRIENDS INTO IT.
AND I HAVE A LOT
OF REMORSE FOR THAT.
AND I HAVE REMORSE
FOR MY HUSBAND'S DEATH
AND REMORSE FOR LETTING MY CHILD
LIVE IN A DANGEROUS SITUATION.
AND SO NOW
I'M JUST DUSTING MYSELF OFF
AND HOPING THAT PEOPLE
CAN FORGIVE AND FORGET.
AND PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE ME
HAVEN'T LIVED A DAY IN MY SHOES.
- WELL, BEST OF LUCK.
- THANK YOU.
- JOINING US NOW IS A FRESH FACE
ON THE 90120 HOUSEWIVES SCENE.
IT IS DANA/PAM. - WHOO!
- HEY, DANA.
- HEY, HOW ARE YOU?
- GREAT, HOW ARE YOU?
- GOOD.
- YOU LOOK FIRED UP
AND READY TO GO.
- I'M READY. LET'S DO SOMETHING.
- WOW. [laughter]
OH, MY GOD.
DARE I ASK
WHO YOU'RE WEARING TONIGHT?
- I'M NOT TELLING.
- ACTUALLY, CHECK OUT HER SHOES.
- NO, I'M NOT TELLING!
- NO, NO, NO.
- NO, I'M NOT TELLING
EVER AGAIN.
- SHOW THE SHOES.
- OH, THIS IS HOW I FEEL,
ALL SEASON LONG,
BUT I NEVER SAY IT.
[laughs]
- YOU BASICALLY DO SAY IT.
- [laughs] I DO, RIGHT?
- YOUR SHOES SAY, UM...
- THE "EFF U" WORD. [laughs]
- "EFF U," BASICALLY, YES.
- THEY'RE ACTUALLY
A MIDDLE FINGER
WITH A DIAMOND ON IT.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS HOT.
- PERFECT. THAT'S PERFECT.
- JUST CLASSIN' IT UP
A LITTLE HIGHER.
- EXACTLY, EXACTLY.
WELL, BEING THE NEW GIRL
ON THE BLOCK IS NEVER EASY,
BUT DECKED OUT
IN HER $25,000 SHADES,
VALENTINO HOT PANTS,
AND MILLION-DOLLAR
LOLLIPOP HOLDER,
DANA HAS DEFINITELY ANNOUNCED
THAT SHE'S ARRIVED.
- I'M DOING, LIKE,
A SUPER-MEGA-WEDDING.
I'M RENTING OUT A CASTLE.
IT'LL BE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF PARIS.
I'M STILL TRYING
TO BE A PRINCESS.
- DANA LIKES THINGS
OVER THE TOP.
SHE'S DEFINITELY OUT THERE.
SHE'S NOT AFRAID
TO BE WHO SHE IS.
AND, I THINK, THE MORE OVER
THE TOP THE BETTER, FOR HER.
- I LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE ON.
- THIS IS VALENTINO.
SO IT'S 125 KARATS
OF PERFECT DIAMOND.
IT'S FOR SALE
FOR A MILLION DOLLARS.
- LOOK AT THOSE
BEAUTIFUL GLASSES.
- AND THEY WERE 25,000.
DID YOU KNOW? 25,000.
- INSANE.
- THAT'S RIGHT.
- MOST PEOPLE THAT HAVE
A LOT OF MONEY
DON'T REALLY BRAG TOO MUCH
ABOUT IT.
AND THAT'S THE HONEST TRUTH.
- LISTEN, KIM, I LIKE YOU.
YOU WANT TO DO,
LIKE, A HEALTHY, SAFE THING?
LIKE ALL OF US?
A HEALTHY, SAFE VACA?
LET'S DO IT.
- DANA WAS REALLY,
REALLY, REALLY FAR UP
KIM AND KYLE'S ASSES.
- WE'RE TOGETHER FOREVER...
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT,
ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
- WHO?
[laughter covers video audio]
- AND A MILLION OTHERS.
WE'RE ALWAYS... FOREVER...
THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
[laughter]
- WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?
- I WAS THINKING,
"WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WOMAN?
WHAT'S SHE TALKING ABOUT?"
- I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS
TALKING ABOUT EITHER.
I WAS HAMMERED.
- SHE WAS LIKE,
"COME ON, LET'S JUST DO IT."
- I WAS LIKE,
"SAFE AND HAPPY, LET'S DO IT."
- ACTUALLY,
YOU DO A GREAT IMPERSONATION
OF... OF DANA. CAN YOU DO IT?
- "25,000. DID YOU KNOW?
25,000."
- WELL, DANA,
IT DOESN'T TAKE A BABY GENIUS
TO KNOW WHAT
THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION
COMING YOUR WAY IS.
ERIC IN JERSEY CITY
SAID IT BEST.
"$25,000 FOR SUNGLASSES?
"ARE YOU OUT
OF YOUR EFF-ING MIND?
DON'T YOU HAVE BETTER THINGS
TO SPEND YOUR MONEY ON?"
- WELL, I MEAN, I DIDN'T THINK
IT WAS SUCH A BIG DEAL,
TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I MEAN, I LOOKED AROUND
AT THE GIRLS.
AND SHE'S GOT A JET, A CASINO,
A $25-MILLION HOUSE.
GIGGY'S GOT A BETTER WARDROBE
THAN I DO, FRANKLY.
IT'S NOT LIKE
WE'RE A PRACTICAL GROUP,
SO I THOUGHT, "WHY NOT?"
YOU KNOW?
- CAMILLE, YOU SAID MOST PEOPLE
WHO HAVE A LOT OF MONEY
DON'T BRAG TOO MUCH ABOUT IT.
- DO YOU THINK DANA BRAGGED
TOO MUCH?
- IN THE BEGINNING, YES.
- WELL, YOU KNOW,
THEY'RE NOT, LIKE,
LOW-KEY, HUMBLE CHICKS EITHER.
I MEAN, LOOK AT THEM.
- YEAH, BUT IT IS A BIT WEIRD.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU WERE SAYING
THE PRICES.
I MEAN, THAT WAS A BIT WEIRD.
- WELL, I MEAN,
YOUR DOG WEARS ATTIRE
FOR EVERY... EVENT,
AND THAT'S NOT WEIRD TO YOU.
- 'CAUSE HE'S GOT ALOPECIA.
AND HE HAS LITTLE...
BUT IT IS A BIT WEIRD.
YOU KNOW HE'S GOT ALOPECIA.
- ACTUALLY, I LEFT HOME
AT 15, OKAY.
AND I BUILT MY WHOLE LIFE
AND MY COLLEGE,
AND YOU GUYS
DON'T KNOW THAT ABOUT ME.
BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER
IS I REALLY AM PROUD OF MYSELF.
AND I DO SCREAM MONEY,
YOU KNOW, SO, YEAH,
I GUESS THAT'S MAYBE TACKY OF ME
BUT THAT'S...
THAT'S WHO I AM,
BECAUSE OF THAT.
- WHERE'D YOU GROW UP?
- I GREW UP
IN METHUEN, MASSACHUSETTS.
IS ANYONE FROM THERE?
AND THEN, UM, WHEN MY MOM DIED
IN A CAR ACCIDENT,
UM, I MOVED TO NEW YORK CITY.
AND I LITERALLY WAS LIVING
TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT LIVES.
MY MOM WAS POOR,
MY DAD WAS RICH.
AND I LITERALLY
WAS IN THE WORST SCHOOL
IN, PROBABLY, THE COUNTRY.
AND I MOVED TO NEW YORK
TO LIVE WITH MY DAD.
AND I ENDED UP
AT NIGHTINGALE-BAMFORD,
ONE OF THE THIRD BEST. - WOW.
- AND SO I'M TWO PEOPLE
ALL THE TIME.
I'M A GUY WHO'S, LIKE,
REALLY NOT FROM ANYTHING,
THAT WANTS SO BAD TO BE A PART
OF SOMETHING THAT'S SO AMAZING...
THE MONEY AND THE GLAMOUR
AND ALL THIS.
AND THEN I'M ALSO A GUY
WHO WAS RAISED IN IT
AND MY FACE WAS SHOVED IN IT,
BECAUSE WHEN I WENT
TO SCHOOL AT NIGHTINGALE,
BELIEVE ME,
I WENT WITH THE TOP PEOPLE
WITH SO MUCH MONEY.
AND THEY HAD 80 MILLION
BENETTON SWEATERS
AND EVERYTHING.
AND I JUST WANTED
TO BE A PART OF THAT.
- INTERESTING.
- WOW, THAT EXPLAINS A LOT.
- IT DOES.
- YEAH, DOESN'T IT?
- THAT'S INTERESTING.
- THANKS.
- MADISON FROM GALVESTON WRITES,
"DANA, YOU MAY BE
A PARTY PLANNER,
"BUT GAME NIGHT PROVED
"THAT YOU WEREN'T
A GREAT HOSTESS.
"NOT ONLY DID YOU ALLOW BRANDI
TO GET ATTACKED,
"YOU JOINED IN.
"ARE YOU SO DESPERATE
FOR FRIENDS
THAT YOU CONDONE BULLYING
IN YOUR HOUSE?"
- I HAVE A LITTLE BIT
OF A DIFFERENT OPINION
OF WHAT HAPPENED ON GAME NIGHT.
KIM CAME TO THE DOOR.
KYLE WAS REALLY CONCERNED
ABOUT MAKING SURE
THAT SHE LOOKED GOOD.
BRANDI KEPT CALLING OUT THE FACT
THAT THEY WERE GOING
IN THE BATHROOM...
BEING LIKE, "OH,
THEY'RE GOING IN THE BATHROOM.
BATHROOM, BATHROOM."
KIND OF MAKING IT SEEM
LIKE THERE WAS DRUGS
OR SOMETHING GOING ON.
SO WHEN KYLE KIND OF...
BACKLASHED A LITTLE,
IT DIDN'T SURPRISE ME,
BECAUSE SHE HAD KIND OF
BEEN POKING... - ME?
- ALL EVENING. YEAH, YOU.
- PAM?
- YES.
WATCH THE EPISODE.
- WATCH THE EPISODE?
- YEAH. [overlapping chatter]
- I WAS THERE. I INVITED YOU
EVEN AFTER YOU SAID
THAT MY FIANCE CHEATED.
SO I'M INVITING YOU
INTO MY HOUSE
AFTER YOU JOKED AROUND
ABOUT MY FIANCE CHEATING,
WHICH IS NOT REALLY
THAT APPROPRIATE.
AND I HAD YOU THERE.
AND THEN THE LEAST YOU COULD DO
IS BE A GOOD GUEST,
AND TRY TO BE NICE
AND FRIENDLY AND HAPPY.
BUT YOU'RE LIKE,
"OH, THERE THEY GO
"IN THE BATHROOM AGAIN.
"WONDER WHAT THEY'RE DOING
IN THE BATHROOM.
WHAT'S GOING ON
IN THE BATHROOM?"
SO WHEN KYLE SNAPPED
IT DIDN'T SURPRISE ME.
- WE CLEARLY HAVE
TWO DIFFERENT VIEWS
OF WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT.
- CLEARLY.
- IT'S TOO BAD.
- YOLANDA FROM AUSTIN SAID,
"TAYLOR, YOU'RE GOOD FRIENDS
"WITH DANA. WERE YOU SURPRISED
BY HOW SHE BRAGGED
AND BROWN-NOSED?"
- YOU KNOW WHAT? SHE'S ALWAYS...
BEEN A GOOD FRIEND TO ME.
- I THINK IT'S A COMPLIMENT
TO SOMEONE,
TO WANT TO BE THEIR FRIEND
AND PUT THEMSELVES OUT THERE.
I WAS COMPLIMENTING KYLE
AND KIM AND CAMILLE
BY SAYING, "HEY, I REALLY
WANT TO BE YOUR FRIEND."
AND I PUT MYSELF OUT THERE.
I'M NEVER GOING
TO BE ASHAMED FOR THAT.
AND I'LL KISS THEIR ASS
ALL OVER AGAIN,
'CAUSE THAT'S WHO I AM.
- DANA, THANKS FOR LETTING US
GET TO KNOW YOU
A LITTLE BIT THIS SEASON.
YOU'VE CERTAINLY BEEN
VERY FUN TO HAVE AROUND.
- THANK YOU.
- UP NEXT...
- SHE SAYS, "I WANT
TO SLEEP WITH YOUR HUSBAND."
- WHAT DO YOU FIND ATTRACTIVE
ABOUT KEN?
- [growling] EVERYTHING.
- JOINING US NOW
ARE THREE OF THE HUNKIEST
HOUSE-HUSBANDS
IN ALL OF BEVERLY HILLS.
PLEASE HELP ME WELCOME KEN...
[applause]
MAURICIO... - WHOO!
- AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST,
OUR BUDDY PAUL.
[cheering, applause]
- THE SEVENTH HOUSEWIFE!
- WELCOME, GUYS.
BY THE WAY,
WHILE I HAVE YOU HERE,
YOUR CONSULTATION WITH TAYLOR
ABOUT HER FACE,
IN THE FRONT GATE
OF LISA'S PLACE...
- ACTUALLY, PAUL,
CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE ME A FEEL?
- DO YOU WANT TO?
HOW IS HER FACE DOING?
- I'VE GAINED TEN POUNDS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
- ACTUALLY, WHAT I WAS DOING
WHEN SHE WANTED ME
TO LOOK AT HER,
I WAS LOOKING AT HER CHEEKS.
BECAUSE BIG CHEEKBONES...
BUT SHE WAS VERY,
VERY HOLLOW RIGHT HERE.
AND SO... AND IF YOU GAIN WEIGHT,
SHE'S GOING TO GAIN
IT RIGHT THERE.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU'RE STILL THIN.
- OKAY.
- YOU STILL NEED A LITTLE MORE.
JUST THAT.
- SEE YOU ON MONDAY, DOC.
- WEIGHT IS WHAT IT NEEDS,
NOT FILLER.
- I GAINED 10 POUNDS.
THE PROBLEM IS I DON'T GAIN IT
IN MY BOOBS
OR MY ASS OR MY FACE.
THE PROBLEM IS I JUST GAIN IT
IN MY MIDSECTION.
- AND YOUR LIPS.
- AND HER BIG TOE.
- I CAN'T SEE YOU OVERWEIGHT,
FOR SOME REASON.
I JUST CAN'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.
- OLIVIA FROM PASADENA, TEXAS
WRITES,
"KEN, ADMITTING
THAT YOU WOULD FEEL WEAK
"BY GOING TO A THERAPIST
IS HONEST,
"AND IT'S YOUR OPINION,
"BUT DON'T YOU SEE HOW IT FEEDS
INTO A NEGATIVE STEREOTYPE
ABOUT PEOPLE WHO GO TO THERAPY."
- YES, I DO.
OBVIOUSLY, THERAPY WORKS
FOR SOME PEOPLE...
A LOT OF PEOPLE.
IT JUST DOESN'T WORK FOR ME.
I CAN'T SEE MYSELF
SITTING IN A LITTLE ROOM
WITH A THERAPIST
WHO I DON'T KNOW
AND TELLING HIM
MY INNER SECRETS.
IT'S NOT FOR ME.
I'D RATHER SIT DOWN
WITH MY WIFE,
AS I'VE DONE FOR 30 YEARS,
AND TALK IT OUT.
- AND HAVE ME TELL YOU
HOW IT WORKS.
- YEAH.
AND THEN I DO WHAT I'M TOLD.
- AND YOU AND TAYLOR
HAVE OBVIOUSLY GOTTEN PAST THAT.
- OH, YEAH. I WASN'T HAVING A GO
AT TAYLOR,
AND I'VE TOLD HER THAT.
AND WE'RE... STILL FRIENDS.
- HAVING A GO AT ME?
- KYLE... TOOK ME TO TASK ON IT.
AND WE'LL STILL ALL FRIENDS.
- AMBER FROM FARGO SAYS,
"MAURICIO,
"DO RANDOM WOMEN STILL
SEND YOU NUDE PHOTOS?
OR HAS KYLE PUT PARENTAL
CONTROLS ON YOUR EMAIL ACCOUNT?"
- I HAVE NOT RECEIVED
ANY NUDE PHOTOS THIS YEAR.
- OH, YOU WILL NOW. [laughter]
- I'M STILL WAITING
FOR A COUPLE OF THEM,
BUT NOT THIS YEAR.
- YOU MAY START GETTING THEM,
BECAUSE ALL THESE GUYS
ARE SEXY IN THEIR OWN RIGHT,
BUT IT'S HARD TO IGNORE
WHAT SOME WOULD CALL
"THE MAGIC OF MAURICIO."
EVEN PAUL CAN'T ESCAPE IT.
WATCH THIS. - OH, MY GOD.
HONEY, I'M HOME.
- MAURICIO... MR. DEBONAIR.
MR. PROFESSIONAL GOLFER,
DEEP DIVER,
TENNIS PLAYER, DOWNHILL SKIER.
WHO KNOWS WHAT OTHER THINGS
ARE IN HIS FORTE.
MAURICIO,
TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, BUDDY.
[laughter]
- WHOO!
- OH, MY GOD!
OH, MY GOD!
- FOR SOME REASON,
WHEN HE TAKES OFF THAT SHIRT,
IT JUST DOESN'T
LOOK LIKE MAURICIO.
[laughter]
- YOU KNOW, HE'S NO MAURICIO.
- AMAZING.
[laughter]
- PAUL, HOW DOES IT FEEL
TO BE COMPARED TO MAURICIO?
- YOU KNOW,
WE CAN'T COMPARE EACH OTHER.
YOU KNOW, I'M A WONDERFUL
SURGEON, FOR GOD'S SAKES...
LOOK AT ME.
- SASHA FROM SACRAMENTO SAID,
"MAURICIO, I SAW ONLINE
THAT OUT OF ALL
"THE HOUSEWIVES SHOWS,
YOU WERE VOTED
"THE NUMBER ONE HOTTEST
HOUSE-HUSBAND.
DO YOU CARE TO GIVE
A THANK YOU SPEECH?"
[laughter]
- I'D LIKE TO THANK
ALL OF MY FANS OUT THERE.
- DING, DING, DING!
- I ALWAYS SAY
MY HUSBAND WAS JUST
A NICE, JEWISH BOY.
AND SINCE WE'VE DONE THIS SHOW,
HE'S TURNED INTO THIS,
HOT, LATIN LOVER
ACCORDING TO THE AUDIENCE.
I'M LIKE,
"WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED
TO MY HUSBAND?"
- CONNOR FROM LAS VEGAS SAID,
"KEN, IN HAWAII,
YOU AND BRANDI SEEMED
"TO HAVE REAL CHEMISTRY.
"IS SHE THE TYPE OF WOMAN
YOU WENT FOR
BACK IN YOUR WILD DAYS?"
[laughter]
- IN MY WILD DAYS I WENT
FOR ANY TYPE OF WOMAN.
- ANYBODY WHO WOULD SAY YES,
OR WHO HE WAS INTRODUCED TO.
- BUT I FIND THAT WOMEN...
I'M ATTRACTED TO...
[laughter] - WHAT ABOUT...
- I'M FAIRLY ATTRACTIVE
TO WOMEN, BUT, UH...
- YOU'RE ATTRACTIVE TO WOMEN?
- YES, I AM.
- YEAH, THEY WANT HIM.
- THEY WANT ME.
- EXACTLY.
- THAT IS WHY I WOULDN'T
TAKE MY SHIRT OFF...
IN CASE SHE ATTACKED ME.
- WHAT DO YOU FIND ATTRACTIVE
ABOUT KEN?
- [growling] EVERYTHING. I DO.
EVERYTHING.
- SHE'S VERY HONEST ABOUT THAT.
SHE SAYS, "I WANT
TO SLEEP WITH YOUR HUSBAND."
THAT'S WHAT SHE SAYS.
ABSOLUTELY. - YES, ALL THE TIME.
- LOOK AT HIM. HE'S BLUSHING.
[laughter]
- CHARLOTTE FROM DAVENPORT,
IOWA WRITES,
"KEN, WERE YOU DISAPPOINTED
THAT KYLE PUT THE KIBOSH
ON BRANDI'S BJ PARTY?
- UM...
- HE'S TURNING RED.
- I DON'T THINK
LISA WOULD HAVE GONE
TO A BJ PARTY.
SHE DOESN'T NEED TO. - EXACTLY.
- THAT'S NICE.
- SHE WAS THE TEACHER.
THAT'S WHY WE COULDN'T DO IT.
- BACK IN THE '70s.
YOU REMEMBER THAT ONE, RIGHT?
- YEAH, I THINK SO. [laughter]
- MONIQUE FROM AUGUSTA, GEORGIA
HAS A QUESTION ABOUT SEDRICK.
"KEN, DID YOU KEEP
A STRAIGHT FACE
WHEN SEDRICK TOLD YOU
HE WAS A LIFE COACH?"
[laughter
- UM, NO, I DIDN'T.
I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING
TO TELL ME
HE HAD A RICH BOYFRIEND,
OR HE WAS DOING THIS OR THAT
AND SUDDENLY TO COME OUT
WITH "I'M A LIFE COACH,"
I'M JUST LIKE...
I NEARLY FAINTED ON THE SPOT.
- WHY DO YOU THINK
HE SHOWED UP AT SUR?
TO APOLOGIZE
OR CAUSE A SCENE, OR WHAT?
- YOU NEVER KNOW WITH SEDRICK.
HE PROBABLY TURNED UP
FOR ATTENTION...
JUST TO GET ON CAMERA.
- I THINK, YEAH,
TO GET ON CAMERA,
AND IT WOULD PERPETUATE IT,
SO THAT WOULD GIVE HIM ANOTHER
CHANCE TO TELL ANOTHER STORY.
I MEAN, IT'S BEEN ENDLESS,
THE AMOUNT OF KIND OF ABUSE
WE'VE TAKEN IN THE PRESS
FROM HIM.
BUT I'VE NEVER HIT BACK,
BECAUSE IT'S POINTLESS.
- LAURIE FROM
ESSEX, VERMONT SAID
"MAURICIO, HOW'S YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH KIM NOW?
DID SHE EVER APOLOGIZE TO YOU?"
- WELL, MY RELATIONSHIP
WITH KIM,
RIGHT NOW, IS IN LIMBO.
A FORMAL APOLOGY
HASN'T OCCURRED.
I WOULD ASSUME
THAT ONCE KIM IS ALL GOOD,
THAT WE'LL BE ABLE
TO HAVE A SIT-DOWN CONVERSATION.
AND I REALLY HOPE
THAT WE'RE ABLE TO WORK IT OUT,
BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT FUN HAVING
A FEUD WITH A FAMILY MEMBER
OR HAVING ANY ISSUES
WITH A FAMILY MEMBER.
SO I REALLY DO HOPE THAT
WE'RE ABLE TO WORK THAT OUT.
- VERY GOOD.
WELL, MAURICIO, KEN AND PAUL,
THANKS FOR SPENDING
SOME TIME WITH US.
IT'S BEEN A GREAT TREAT.
THERE'S MORE AFTER THIS.
TONIGHT,
KIM RICHARDS COMES CLEAN.
- I DRANK AND THEN
I HAD GUILT AND SHAME.
AND THEN I DRANK
TO COVER THE GUILT AND SHAME.
- WELL, KIM FINISHED
HER STAY IN REHAB
JUST ONE DAY
AFTER WE TAPED THE REUNION.
AND SHE JOINS US NOW.
- ARE YOU READY?
- HI,
COME ON IN.
- READY? ALL RIGHT, I WILL.
CHECK 'EM OUT, CHECK 'EM OUT.
- WOW, YOU LOOK GREAT.
- OH, THANK YOU.
- HI.
- HOW ARE YOU? YOU LOOK GREAT.
- SO HAPPY TO SEE YOU.
COME ON IN.
SO HAPPY YOU'RE HERE.
- I'M SO HAPPY TO BE HERE.
- I BET.
- YEAH.
- ABSOLUTELY.
- YEAH.
- YOU LOOK HEALTHY.
- REALLY?
- YEAH, YOU DO.
- I'VE BEEN TAKING CARE
OF MYSELF.
- YOU FEEL HEALTHY?
- I DO.
- YEAH?
- I DO.
HAPPY TO BE HOME AND, UH...
I FEEL GOOD.
- WHEN I SPOKE TO KYLE,
SHE DIDN'T WANT TO SAY
WHAT YOU HAD GONE TO REHAB FOR.
SHE SAID, "THIS IS REALLY
FOR KIM TO SAY."
CAN YOU TELL US
WHAT YOU SOUGHT TREATMENT FOR?
- YEAH.
I'M AN ALCOHOLIC.
AND I DRINK.
I DRINK.
- HOW LONG HAS THIS
BEEN A PROBLEM FOR YOU?
- IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM
LONG ENOUGH
THAT I CAN SAY
THAT I'VE STRUGGLED WITH IT,
AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT
FOR A WHILE.
I HAD SO MUCH GUILT AND SHAME
FROM MY BEHAVIOR AND WHAT I DID.
AND THEN I DRANK TO COVER
THE GUILT AND SHAME
TO MAKE IT GO AWAY.
SO IT IS A VICIOUS CYCLE.
- YOU'VE SOUGHT TREATMENT
FOR THIS BEFORE.
- MM-HMM.
- HOW MANY TIMES
HAVE YOU BEEN THROUGH REHAB?
- THREE.
- THREE TIMES.
WHAT WAS IT ABOUT THE FIRST TWO
THAT DIDN'T TAKE, DO YOU THINK?
- I THINK THAT...
I WASN'T READY MAYBE?
I WASN'T READY.
I THOUGHT I WAS.
- WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS ONE
THAT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD
ABOUT IT.
- I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S...
ONE... THAT I'M READY,
AND OR... TWO... THIS IS JUST...
THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE
FOR ME, WHERE I WENT.
I AM A PERSON THAT HAS DONE IT
AND RELAPSED AND DONE IT.
AT LEAST I'M TRYING.
I'M REALLY TRYING.
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T BLAME
PEOPLE FOR LOOKING AND GOING,
"OH, ANOTHER?
WHAT IS THIS GIRL..."
WELL, AT LEAST I'M NOT THERE...
I'M TRYING, YOU KNOW,
AND I'M DOING IT RIGHT NOW.
AND I FEEL CONFIDENT
IN THIS A LOT.
- WAS THERE
A FAMILY INTERVENTION?
- IT WAS, LIKE,
THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING.
AND MY DAUGHTER KIND OF WENT
TO THE OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS
AND JUST SAID,
"I THINK MOM SHOULD GO AWAY
OR SOMETHING."
BUT I ALREADY DECIDED
THAT I WANTED TO GO.
MY BEHAVIOR...
FROM THE MEDICATION
OR WHATEVER... I JUST FELT OFF.
- ANXIETY MEDICATION?
- MM-HMM.
I JUST DIDN'T LIKE ME ANYMORE,
AND...
I-I COULDN'T LOOK AT MYSELF
IN THE MIRROR ANYMORE.
- DO YOU STILL SUFFER
FROM HIGH ANXIETY
WHEN YOU ARE SOBER? - OH, YEAH.
- YOU DO?
- YEAH.
YOU KNOW, I'M ON MY MEDICATION.
AND IF I DON'T TAKE IT PROPERLY,
YEAH, IT CAN BE
ALL OVER THE PLACE.
- IT'S WITHIN YOUR PROGRAM,
THOUGH,
TO BE ON THESE MEDICATIONS?
- ACTUALLY, IT'S FROM... YEAH.
IT WAS FROM THE TREATMENT
CENTER... THEY PUT ME ON IT.
AND, YOU KNOW,
WHEN I CAME OUT, I THOUGHT,
"YOU KNOW WHAT?
I DON'T NEED THIS ONE
OR THAT ONE."
THAT'S JUST STUPID.
I TOOK MYSELF OFF A COUPLE AND
IT HAD A HORRIBLE SIDE-EFFECT.
- SO WHILE THE SHOW
WAS IN PRODUCTION,
YOU WERE DRINKING.
- WHEN I FIRST STARTED
THE SEASON,
I WAS STILL NOT DRINKING.
YOU COULD EVEN SEE
MY CONFIDENCE LEVEL,
AND HOW STRONG AND POWERFUL
I CAME IN.
- WELL, LET ME TALK ABOUT
THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON.
BECAUSE IN COLORADO,
YOU WERE REALLY THE VOICE
OF REASON WITH TAYLOR.
YOU WERE SAYING,
"SHE'S FALLING APART," SO...
- I WAS SOBER.
- AND I'M SO TERRIFIED
OF GOING BACK TO THAT.
- YOU'RE SMART, GIRL.
AND YOU HAVE GREAT
OPPORTUNITIES.
YOU NEED TO CHANGE THAT INSIDE,
AND SAY, "YOU KNOW WHAT?
- I'M TRYING.
- "NOTHING'S GOING
TO BRING ME DOWN."
AND THEN YOU COULD SEE,
JUST FROM MY BEHAVIOR,
WHERE I LOST MY CONFIDENCE
AND STARTED DRINKING
A LITTLE BIT.
LOOK WHO'S HERE.
I CAN... I'M NOT THAT GREAT
OF A SKIER, BUT...
I COULDN'T WATCH THE SHOW
AFTER I SAW THAT BEHAVIOR
COMING OUT OF MYSELF,
'CAUSE I WAS SO DISAPPOINTED
IN MY CHOICE... WHAT I'D DONE.
- WATCHING THIS SEASON,
IT SEEMED LIKE YOU WERE
EITHER PERENNIALLY LATE
OR ABSENT ENTIRELY.
WAS THIS A RESULT
OF YOUR SUBSTANCE ABUSE?
- UM...
MOST LIKELY, YEAH,
THAT'S A BIG SIGN
OF SOMEBODY THAT'S USING.
- RIGHT.
SO AT THE NIGHT OF BEAUTY,
YOU DESCRIBED TO PAUL
A LIST OF MEDICATIONS
THAT YOU WERE ON.
- I'M ON TRAZODONE, TOPAMAX,
AND I JUST STARTED LEXAPRO.
- WHAT WERE YOU
BEING TREATED FOR THEN?
- SEVERE ANXIETY
AND PANIC DISORDER.
THAT'S WHAT
I WAS BEING TREATED FOR.
- DO YOU THINK THAT THOSE PILLS
AFFECTED YOUR BEHAVIOR ALSO?
OR DO YOU THINK
IT WAS MAINLY ALCOHOL?
- IT WAS PROBABLY WHEN I
MIXED THE ALCOHOL WITH THOSE.
LIKE, FOR INSTANCE,
THE GAME NIGHT...
THAT WAS STRICTLY THE MEDICATION
THE DOCTOR GAVE ME.
I'M LOSING MY BALANCE, I CAN'T...
I LOOK AT PEOPLE,
I SEE... I CAN'T HEAR.
- BRANDI ACCUSED YOU,
AT GAME NIGHT,
OF BEING ON CRYSTAL METH.
- YES, SHE DID.
- WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH YOU?
- I JUST LEFT A 2 1/2-HOUR
DOCTOR SESSION.
FINALLY, HE GAVE ME
SOME MEDICATION IN HIS OFFICE.
AND WHEN I WALKED IN,
I TOLD EVERYBODY,
"BY THE WAY, I DON'T FEEL RIGHT.
I JUST LEFT THE DOCTOR
AND I TOOK SOME MEDICATION."
AND MY SISTER KYLE WAS LIKE,
"OH, KIM."
EVEN SHE SAID, "YOU SHOULDN'T
HAVE TAKEN THAT RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S A BEDTIME MEDICATION."
- THOUGH SHE APOLOGIZED
FOR THE ACCUSATION,
BRANDI THINKS
MAYBE IT HELPED YOU,
SINCE IT BROUGHT THE TOPIC
OUT IN THE OPEN.
- MAYBE I HELPED YOU.
- I ALSO THINK...
- I'M SERIOUS.
MAYBE IT GOT IT OUT THERE
THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM,
AND THEN EVERYONE
HAD TO ADDRESS IT.
- NO OFFENSE, BUT IT HAD
NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.
- I THINK
WHAT BRANDI HAS CAUSED,
FOR MY FAMILY AND MYSELF,
HAS NOT BEEN HELPFUL AT ALL.
- DO YOU FEEL LIKE
YOU OWE BRANDI AN APOLOGY?
- I GUESS I OWE HER AN APOLOGY
FOR HIDING HER CRUTCHES.
YES, I DO.
- DO YOU FEEL LIKE
SHE OWES YOU AN APOLOGY?
- IF I PUT IT ALL OUT THERE,
SHE OWES ME ONE
AND I OWE HER ONE.
THE DIFFERENCE IS I OWE HER ONE
FOR MOVING HER CRUTCHES,
AND SHE OWES ME ONE
FOR, BASICALLY,
HURTING ALL THE PEOPLE I LOVE.
- HOW DID SHE HURT YOU?
- ONE DAUGHTER JUST CRIED
AND THE OTHER ONE TOLD ME,
"YOU DON'T KNOW HOW HARD IT IS
TO WALK DOWN THE STREET."
SO IT'S JUST WHAT SHE DID
WAS JUST HORRIBLE,
HONESTLY, IN MY OPINION.
- WELL, REBECCA FROM HOUSTON
WANTED TO KNOW,
"KIM, WILL YOU FINALLY FORGIVE
BRANDI FOR HER COMMENTS,
OR AT LEAST ACT CIVIL
TOWARDS HER?"
- I WILL NEVER FORGET BRANDI...
FORGIVE HER FOR HER COMMENTS
OR FORGET IT, NO.
BECAUSE THEY WERE JUST
TOO DETRIMENTAL TO MY FAMILY.
WILL I EVER BE CIVIL TO HER?
ABSOLUTELY.
I WON'T EVER WALK THROUGH A ROOM
AND NOT ACKNOWLEDGE HER.
- BUT YOU WILL
NEVER FORGIVE HER.
- I WON'T.
- YOUR BEHAVIOR ON THE SHOW
WAS REALLY PUZZLING AT TIMES.
- YOU THINK?
- BOTH TO THE VIEWERS
AND TO THE OTHER WOMEN.
- WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
- [laughs]
- WHY ARE YOU GOING
TO THIS PLACE, ANDY?
I'M JUST CONFUSED
WHY YOU'RE GOING THERE.
- AND SPECIFICALLY AT SUR,
ON THE OPENING NIGHT,
WE GOT AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT
OF EMAILS FROM VIEWERS.
HAVE YOU SEEN THAT EPISODE?
- NO.
- NO? WHY NOT?
- WELL, AS I SAID,
I STOPPED WATCHING
RIGHT AFTER I SAW TOO MUCH
OF, LIKE,
JUST BEHAVIOR THAT WASN'T ME.
IT WASN'T ME.
- I HAVE CLIPS
OF THAT SUR EPISODE HERE.
DO YOU WANT TO SEE ANY?
IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU.
- OH, ALL RIGHT.
- YES?
- YEAH.
- UP NEXT...
HOW STRESSFUL WAS IT FOR YOU,
BEING ON THIS SHOW
WITH YOUR SISTER?
- SHE BEING EXPOSED
WAS DIFFICULT.
- I HAVE CLIPS
OF THAT SUR EPISODE HERE.
DO YOU WANT TO SEE ANY?
IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU.
- OH, ALL RIGHT.
- YES?
- YEAH.
- OKAY.
[toothbrush buzzes]
- A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
- WHY DO YOU HAVE
ALL THAT STUFF IN YOUR HANDS?
JESUS CHRIST.
[clunking]
HERE, JUST GIVE IT TO ME
IN THE TOWEL... THROW IT IN.
- PUT IT IN THAT SHOPPING BAG.
- JUST THROW IT IN.
- [sighs]
- LET'S GO.
OUT, OUT. COME ON.
KIM. COME ON, BABE.
- HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
- I LOVE THE BUTTONS.
OOH, WHAT'S ALL THIS?
- WHAT DO YOU...
- OH, MY GOD.
- WHAT IS ALL THAT?
- [strong exhale]
- LOOKS LIKE GARBAGE.
IT'S A GARBAGE CONTAINER.
- UM...
WELL, IT'S... - YEAH, I GET IT.
I GET IT. - NOT MY GARBAGE.
- IT'S GARBAGE.
- THAT'S...
- THAT'S FULL OF CRAP.
I SEE IT FROM... - EW!
IS THAT, LIKE, POOP?
I THINK I SHOULD
TAKE THE BRA OFF.
- NO.
- YES.
ALL RIGHT THAT'S ENOUGH. - OKAY.
WHAT'S IT LIKE TO SEE THAT NOW?
- I DON'T KNOW WHAT
THE HECK'S GOING ON THERE.
I FELT BAD FOR HER...
YOU KNOW.
IT'S JUST SAD.
AND I REALLY
JUST COULDN'T WATCH,
I COULDN'T BARE TO SEE...
IT WASN'T ME.
I DIDN'T HEAR...
THE VOICE WASN'T MINE,
THE MANNERISMS WEREN'T MINE.
- YOU DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOURSELF.
- NO. NOTHING ABOUT
THAT PERSON WAS ME.
- I WANT TO TALK TO YOU
ABOUT KEN A LITTLE BIT.
ARE YOU STILL TOGETHER?
- NO.
- NO?
- I WISH HIM THE BEST,
BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM
SINCE I'VE BEEN BACK.
- DID YOU MOVE OUT?
- YES, I DID.
- AND WHERE ARE YOU LIVING NOW?
- I'M IN A HOTEL,
AND I'M GETTING READY TO MOVE
OVER THE WEEKEND.
LAURIE FROM ARCADIA,
CALIFORNIA EMAILED
AND WANTS TO KNOW,
"KIM, CONSIDERING
"HOW EVERYTHING TURNED OUT,
"DO YOU THINK KYLE WAS RIGHT
ABOUT HOW KEN WASN'T
THE RIGHT MAN FOR YOU?"
- YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LOVE SOMEONE
AND NOT BE ABLE
TO LIVE WITH THEM.
SO I THINK THAT WAS IT.
I WON'T SAY KYLE'S RIGHT
IN THIS...
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT.
- WILL YOU EVER SAY
KYLE'S RIGHT? - YES, I DO.
- HOW IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH YOUR KIDS THESE DAYS?
- UH, MY RELATIONSHIP
WITH MY KIDS RIGHT NOW
IS AWESOME, AWESOME.
- HOW HAS IT CHANGED
FROM WHAT IT WAS
THREE MONTHS AGO?
- OH, IT'S CHANGED A LOT.
ACTUALLY, IT'S CHANGED...
I THINK THAT, UM,
I THINK THAT THEY COULDN'T
BEAR TO BE AROUND
AND SEE WHERE I WAS AT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S HURTFUL
TO SEE SOMEBODY YOU LOVE
DOWN AND OUT.
SO, UM... MY KIDS, BASICALLY,
JUST STOPPED COMING OVER
TO MY HOUSE.
THEY STOPPED TALKING
TO ME A LOT.
ALMOST...
ANYWAY...
SINCE I GOT SOBER...
MY KIDS...
EVERY NIGHT NOW, IT'S LIKE
IF THEY'RE NOT WITH ME,
THEY'RE SENDING ME TEXTS.
"I LOVE YOU, MOMMY.
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH, MOMMY."
AND I'M SO GRATEFUL.
- I WANT TO TALK TO YOU
ABOUT KYLE.
- OH, RIGHT.
HEH! OH, HER.
- WELL, KIM,
YOU AND YOUR SISTER KYLE
HAVE A VERY INTERESTING
RELATIONSHIP.
- YEP.
- LOVING...
INTENSE,
SOMETIMES A LOT OF FRICTION.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE
YOU ULTIMATELY COME TOGETHER.
AND KYLE IS HERE WITH US. KYLE?
- HI.
- HELLO.
- HOW ARE YOU?
- HAVE A SEAT.
Both: MWAH!
- HI, ANDY. [kisses]
- JOIN US.
- [sighs]
- WHEN YOU LOOK AT KIM NOW,
VERSUS WHEN YOU SAW HER, SAY,
AT SUR THAT NIGHT,
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?
- THIS IS THE REAL KIM.
THIS IS THE KIM
THAT I GREW UP WITH
AND THAT I LOVE.
AND THAT WAS A DIFFERENT KIM.
- [chuckles]
- YOU WERE THE PERSON
WHO FIRST SUGGESTED
KIM BE ON THE REAL HOUSEWIVES
OF BEVERLY HILLS.
- MM-HMM.
- IS THAT A DECISION
THAT YOU REGRET?
- I DON'T... NO, I DON'T.
BECAUSE A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENED
IN SEASON ONE
BETWEEN THE TWO OF US WAS...
IT WAS A VERY PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE
RELATIONSHIP GOING ON WITH US.
AND I THINK THAT WE HAD BUILT UP
SO MUCH ANIMOSITY.
I WAS ANGRY WITH KIM,
AND OBVIOUSLY SHE WAS ANGRY
WITH ME TOO.
SO I THINK, IN THE LONG RUN,
IT COULD HAVE HELPED
OUR RELATIONSHIP.
- AND KYLE SEEMS
TO HAVE A REAL THING
ABOUT THE BACK OF LIMOUSINES.
SO EITHER TAYLOR,
ME... LET ME TELL YOU...
- A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON.
- THIS IS A LOT OF... YEAH...
YEAH, SHE JUST LIKES
THE LIMOUSINE THING.
BUT, UM, HONESTLY, I THINK THAT
IT REALLY BROUGHT SO MUCH...
THAT WAS LIKE THIS HUGE...
JUST RELEASE OF INFORMATION
THAT WE BOTH HAD IN OUR HEADS,
THAT WAS JUST KIND
OF BLURTED OUT.
- WELL, HOW DO YOU FEEL NOW
ABOUT...
THE FACT THAT YOU BROUGHT UP
KIM'S ALCOHOLISM?
- I STILL FEEL BAD ABOUT THAT.
- HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT?
- I STILL FEEL REALLY BAD
ABOUT IT.
I JUST STILL FEEL THERE WAS
A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT.
- AFTER THAT ACCUSATION
WAS MADE IN THE LIMO,
THEN WE ALL GOT TOGETHER
AT THE REUNION LAST YEAR,
AND IT WAS SOMETHING
THAT YOU STILL WERE
ABSOLUTELY UNCOMFORTABLE
DISCUSSING.
WHY THE DIFFERENCE NOW
VERSUS AT THAT POINT,
AT THAT LAST REUNION?
- I THINK THAT...
AS I SAID TO YOU EARLIER...
THAT THERE'S THAT TIME OF
GUILT, SHAME, EMBARRASSMENT.
AND THE FIGHT... I JUST
COULDN'T BEAR TO TALK ABOUT.
WAY TOO PAINFUL.
AND WE WERE JUST KIND OF
SITTING IN THE SAME ROOM
FOR THE FIRST TIME.
AND I... - I THINK TOO,
THAT, UM, THE WAY WE WERE RAISED
WAS, YOU KNOW,
TO KEEP THINGS MORE PRIVATE.
AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING
THAT WE WANTED OUT THERE
FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO SEE.
IT WASN'T ANYBODY'S BUSINESS.
- I HAVE HAD TIME
TO SIT ON THAT.
AND, I'M NOT HERE TO DISCUSS
MY ARGUMENT WITH KYLE.
THAT'S PRIVATE.
BUT I AM HERE TO SAY
I'M AN ALCOHOLIC.
THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
- AND WHAT'S IT LIKE FOR YOU,
HEARING YOUR SISTER
SAY THOSE WORDS
IN FRONT OF CAMERAS?
- IT'S A BIG RELIEF.
BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S PART
OF HER ROAD TO RECOVERY,
IS BEING HONEST,
SO WHEN I HEAR HER TALK
LIKE THAT, I KNOW
THAT SHE'S ON THE RIGHT PATH.
- HOW STRESSFUL WAS IT
FOR YOU...
BEING ON THIS SHOW
WITH YOUR SISTER,
KNOWING PRIVATELY
WHAT SHE WAS GOING THROUGH?
- SHE WAS BEING EXPOSED.
AND IT WAS... IT WAS DIFFICULT.
BECAUSE, UM,
I STILL HAD A LOT OF ANGER,
AND I ALSO WAS
TRYING TO PROTECT HER
AT THE SAME TIME,
BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT
TO SET THINGS OFF
TO MAKE HER WORSE.
A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENED
ON GAME NIGHT,
TO BE HONEST, I HAD A LOT OF...
NERVOUS TENSION
EVERY TIME I WAS AROUND HER...
WORRIED AND ALSO PROTECTIVE
AT THE SAME TIME.
- DID YOU THEN RESENT HER
FOR TRYING
TO MAYBE OVERPROTECT YOU?
- I DON'T THINK THAT'S
WHAT I WAS ANGRY AT.
AND I DON'T FEEL...
I THINK THAT PART I LOVED,
YOU KNOW.
IT'S JUST WHEN SHE GOES GETTING
IN ALL MY BUSINESS...
WHEN SHE STARTS, YOU KNOW,
GETTING ALL ENTWINED.
- WELL, I'M CLOSE.
WE'RE ALL CLOSE
WITH EACH OTHER'S CHILDREN.
ALL OF OUR CHILDREN ARE...
- RIGHT.
YOU THINK YOU'RE THE MOTHER
TO MY FOUR.
- YEAH, AND YOU THINK THAT
YOU'RE THE MOM TO MINE TOO.
- OKAY, WAIT, OKAY.
- KIM, THE MOST NOTORIOUS
EXAMPLE OF YOU BEING LATE
WAS HAWAII.
WHAT WAS REALLY GOING ON THERE?
- WHEN I FOUND OUT
THAT YOU COULDN'T USE
AN UN-VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE
AND YOU CAN USE A PASSPORT.
WELL, I HAD JUST MOVED.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
SO I COULDN'T FIND
MY PASSPORT IN THE MOVE.
- KYLE, IT'S AN EXPIRED
DRIVER'S LICENSE
AND I'M TRYING TO FIND
MY PASSPORT NOW.
THERE'S NOTHING ELSE I CAN DO.
I'VE HAD A BAD...
- WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
YOU DON'T HAVE AN ID
TO GET ON THE PLANE?
I THOUGHT YOU SAID
YOU FIXED THAT,
'CAUSE I ASKED YOU TO GO
TO THE DMV WITH ME
AND YOU SAID,
NO, YOU ALREADY FIXED THAT.
- WELL, I LIED TO YOU.
- YOU'VE TOLD ME ALREADY
THAT BY THAT POINT
YOUR SOBRIETY
HAD GOTTEN AWAY FROM YOU.
- MM-HMM.
- SO WOULD YOU PUT THIS
IN THAT BUCKET, OR...
- I WOULD, I WOULD.
BECAUSE EITHER WAY,
WHETHER I HAD BEEN DRINKING
THAT DAY OR NOT,
MY BEHAVIOR WAS THAT
OF AN ALCOHOLIC.
- ONCE KIM ARRIVED IN HAWAII,
SHE WANTED YOU TO LET IT ALL GO.
AND YOU COULDN'T.
- I COULD NOT.
- WHY ARE YOU SO WORRIED
ABOUT ME? ENJOY YOURSELF.
AND YOU'RE NOT ENJOYING
YOUR OWN LIVES.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO BACK
TO YESTERDAY...
WHY... WHATEVER. WE'RE HERE. SO...
- WELL, IT'S [bleep].
- IT'S NOT [bleep].
- IT IS [bleep].
- OKAY, WELL IT'S [bleep].
- YOU GUYS...
- BECAUSE WE'D ALL
BEEN DISCUSSING IT.
IT WASN'T LIKE THE GIRLS
DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
WE WERE ALL TOGETHER.
THEY WERE THERE
FOR THE PHONE CONVERSATIONS
AND AT THE AIRPORT WITH ME.
SO WHEN SHE WALKED IN,
I EXPECTED HER TO SAY SOMETHING.
- WELL, HONESTLY, KYLE,
WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?
WE ALREADY MISSED IT.
I ALREADY SAID TO YOU
"I'M SORRY,"
AND YOU KNEW
HOW STRESSED OUT I WAS.
- TRAVELING, FLYING ALL TOGETHER
IS PART OF THE FUN. YOU KNOW,
GOING TOGETHER AND THEN
THE FIRST NIGHT THERE,
AND OUR DINNER, AND WAKING UP
AND HAVING BREAKFAST...
EVERYONE TOGETHER.
SHE WAS MISSING
A BIG PART OF OUR TRIP.
- AND I'M SORRY
FOR MISSING THE FLIGHT.
I'M SORRY FOR NOT BEING THERE.
OKAY, I'M SORRY. SO...
- BUT WHAT SHE WAS MISSING
IN ALL THAT, WAS THAT
I WANTED HER THERE.
- NO, I GOT THAT.
- OKAY.
- I DID.
- JUST MAKING SURE YOU KNEW.
- YOU TWO HAVE BEEN THROUGH
SUCH A RIDE
ON THIS SHOW TOGETHER.
- YOU CAN'T HELP IT
WITH HER AS A SISTER.
JUST JOKING.
- I'M HERE RIGHT NOW
TO LOVE YOU
AND BE SUPPORTIVE OF YOU.
I'M NOT HERE TO ARGUE WITH YOU.
- I'M JUST JOKING.
- I'M REALLY NOT.
- JUST THINK IT'S FUN TO...
- OKAY, WELL,
YOU PUT ME THROUGH A LOT.
[overlapping chatter]
- YOU PUT ME THROUGH EQUAL.
- I'M JUST CURIOUS.
WHEN YOU SAY THAT, WHAT DO YOU
THINK SHE'S PUT YOU THROUGH?
UP NEXT...
- I WENT TO GO GIVE HER A HUG,
AND IT WAS LIKE...
I COULD ALREADY FEEL
A VERY DIFFERENT KIM.
- NOW AT SUR, YOU TOLD KYLE
THAT YOU WERE GOING
TO HAVE A BABY.
- I SAID... NO, I DIDN'T SAY
I WAS GOING...
WELL, I ACTUALLY DID SAY
I WAS GOING...
- I JUST CAN'T EVEN START
WITH THAT.
- I WAS PRETTY SURE...
I WAS THREE MONTHS BEHIND.
AND SO, UM...
I THOUGHT MAYBE I MIGHT BE.
AND THEN I JOKED THEN,
BECAUSE I STILL DIDN'T KNOW.
"I'M GOING TO HAVE A BABY."
BUT I WAS JUST JOKING WITH HER.
- YOU DIDN'T SEEM LIKE
YOU WERE JOKING, ON THE SHOW.
- I'M GOING TO HAVE
ANOTHER BABY.
- WHY DON'T YOU TAKE
A [bleep] TEST.
- I'M TOO SCARED.
YEAH. I WAS LATE, SO...
BUT I WAS WRONG.
- YOU WERE...
- SHUT UP. STOP IT.
- GOD, YOU'RE SO RIDICULOUS.
- THANK GOD.
- I'M JUST CURIOUS.
WHEN YOU SAY THAT,
WHAT DO YOU THINK
SHE'S PUT YOU THROUGH?
- THAT'S SOMETHING
I DON'T WANT TO SAY.
OBVIOUSLY SHE'S ADMITTED
AND TALKED ABOUT HER ISSUES.
THAT AFFECTS FAMILIES.
ANYBODY WHO LIVES
WITH A FAMILY MEMBER
THAT THEY LOVE
WHO'S AN ALCOHOLIC
KNOWS THAT
THEY'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT.
AND IT'S VERY PAINFUL
FOR THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM.
AND THEN I BECOME ANGRY
AND I ACT DIFFERENTLY
TOWARD HER.
AND THEN SHE'S MAD AT ME
FOR THE WAY I'M ACTING,
BUT I CAN'T HELP IT.
- DO YOU UNDERSTAND
WHAT SHE'S SAYING?
- YEAH, BECAUSE WE WENT
THROUGH IT ON FAMILY WEEK.
IT'S LIKE, I DRINK
AND THEN SHE'S ANGRY
AND TREATS ME...
AND I TREAT HER...
MAYBE I DO THINGS
THAT AREN'T RIGHT
AND SHE'S UPSET.
THEN SHE TREATS ME MEAN,
'CAUSE SHE'S MAD.
- IT'S A VICIOUS CYCLE.
- AND THEN I GET MEAN.
THEN I'M ANGRY, HURT OR MAD.
AND THE THING IS
SOMETIMES, AS AN ALCOHOLIC,
WHEN I TREAT HER A CERTAIN WAY,
I DON'T REMEMBER, SOMETIMES,
EVERYTHING I SAID OR DID.
HER ANGER IS STILL THERE,
SO SHE'LL BE MEAN TO ME.
AND I'M SOBER THE NEXT DAY
AND I JUST DON'T GET
WHY SHE'S MAD.
AND SO IT'S
A VICIOUS CIRCLE AGAIN.
IT'S ANOTHER VICIOUS CIRCLE.
- WHAT IS IT ABOUT NOW
AND THIS TIME
THAT MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE...
HER SOBRIETY IS GOING TO STICK?
- BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T GO TO GET
HELP KICKING AND SCREAMING.
UM, WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH HER,
SHE... WANTED TO GO, CALMLY.
AND SHE WAS VERY POSITIVE
WHEN SHE HUGGED ME GOOD-BYE.
I THINK THAT...
[sobbing] I THINK THAT BOTH OF...
I WAS SO ANGRY WITH HER
FOR SO LONG.
AND SHE WAS ANGRY
WITH ME IN RETURN
FOR BEING ANGRY WITH HER.
AND THEN WHEN SHE LEFT
THAT DAY...
I WENT TO GO GIVE HER A HUG,
AND IT WAS LIKE...
I COULD ALREADY FEEL
A VERY DIFFERENT KIM.
IT WAS LIKE A COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT PERSON,
IT WAS, LIKE, NOT HUGGING HER
WITH ANGER INSIDE ANYMORE.
IT'S LIKE WE HUGGED EACH OTHER,
WE HELD EACH OTHER
FOR THE FIRST TIME
IN YEARS... YEARS...
AND I COULD TELL THAT SHE WAS
JUST IN A DIFFERENT MIND-SET.
[sighs]
WHEN I WENT TO VISIT HER,
I COULD JUST SEE
SHE WAS SERIOUS.
SHE WAS TAKING IT
VERY SERIOUSLY.
AND SHE WANTED TO BE THERE,
AND SHE WAS DOING
EVERYTHING SHE HAD TO DO.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN,
IT WAS LIKE...
THIS KIM THAT I HAD BEEN
SO ANGRY WITH WAS GONE,
AND THE SISTER THAT...
I GREW UP WITH...
LAUGHING AND, YOU KNOW,
PLAYING WITH...
WAS ALL OF A SUDDEN BACK.
WE COULD LAUGH
AND HAVE FUN AGAIN.
WHICH WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO
FOR A LONG TIME.
- WHAT'S YOUR REACTION THEN?
- IT FEELS REALLY GOOD.
IT'S WEIRD, BECAUSE
AS GOOD AS IT FEELS,
IT FEELS OVERWHELMING.
AND WHEN SHE TALKS
ABOUT THE HUGS...
I FELT SOMETHING
REALLY DIFFERENT AS WELL.
AND THAT'S WHY...
I JUST REALLY WANT THIS...
SO THAT YOU KNOW.
I'LL OWN MY STUFF,
BUT THE SOBRIETY'S MINE.
AND I'LL WORK REALLY HARD
FOR IT, EVERY DAY.
- THE OTHER DAY, UM,
KIM SAID SOMETHING TO ME.
SHE SAID, UM,
"I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW
THAT I'M BACK,
"AND I'M REALLY HAPPY
TO BE YOUR BIG SISTER AGAIN,
"'CAUSE I KNOW YOU NEED SOMEONE
"TO LOOK OUT
FOR YOU SOMETIMES TOO,
AND I'M HERE AGAIN."
SO... THAT FELT GOOD.
- WHAT A GREAT WAY
TO END THE SEASON...
WITH YOU BACK AND LOOKING
TOWARDS YOUR FUTURE.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, KIM.
- THANK YOU.
- AND GREAT TO SEE YOU, KYLE.
- THANK YOU. both: THANKS, ANDY.
- YOU ALWAYS DO THAT.
- DITTO. [laughs]
- TO LEARN MORE
ABOUT THE HOUSEWIVES,