Kindred Spirits (2016–…): Season 3, Episode 5 - The Shadow of Death - full transcript
Amy Bruni and Adam Berry visit Waverly Hills Sanatorium in Louisville, KY. Considered the most haunted location in America, the massive building houses countless spirits, but a dangerous ...
We're in the exact spot where
she heard something scream.
And something
just screamed at us.
They didn't get to finish
their life and they're angry.
CHIP:
This man killed people.
He said, "No!"
This guy's ready to rumble.
Can you stop
turning off my equipment?
I **** saw somebody
stand in that hallway.
That **** is rare.
He's coming here.
Just letting you know
he wants nothing to do with you.
♪♪
[ Crows cawing ]
BRUNI: When the dead are
forgotten, they become restless.
Oh, my God!
You just touched me.
What? I did not touch you.
I'm Amy Bruni.
A haunting encounter
redefined my life.
I live with that experience
and seek answers to the unknown.
It says, "I am."
I'm Adam Berry.
At Gettysburg, the shadows
and screams of dead soldiers
turned me into
a supernatural believer.
Oh, my God.
Together, our investigations
bring peace to the living...
You can't scare us,
you can't deter us.
...by giving a voice
to the dead.
I'm gonna ask you
one more time.
What is your name?
Because we believe the dead
and the living are all...
kindred spirits.
Kindred spirits.
♪♪
BRUNI: Adam and I have been
called to Louisville, Kentucky,
home to the infamous
Waverly Hills Sanatorium,
one of the most paranormally
active locations
in the entire world.
Looking at that building,
it is one of the most
ominous structures.
and then when you think
of everything that happened
in those walls, it's just...
it's overwhelming.
Before the invention
of antibiotics,
a respiratory illness called
tuberculosis wiped out millions.
Doctors called it
"the white plague,"
patients called it
a death sentence.
In Jefferson County, Kentucky,
the epidemic was so bad
that officials planned
to contain the disease
by quarantining the sick.
The rapid construction of
Waverly Hills began in 1912.
BERRY: I mean,
going up this driveway,
seeing where you were
going to be,
possibly where you're going
to die is, like, intense.
BRUNI: Desperate
to discover a cure,
doctors conducted experimental
and oftentimes
barbaric surgeries.
The death count at Waverly Hills
ranges wildly.
Some say as many as
8,000 patients died here.
Others suggest more than 50,000.
The hospital closed in 1961,
after scientists
finally discovered a cure.
You don't walk into Waverly
and not have some sort
of paranormal experience.
Big haunts like this,
they become notorious for
the activity and for the scares.
I think there are
a ton of things
that will reach out to us,
because everyone wants to speak.
I feel like there are people
here who are just...
that may have died here
who are just here
and they don't know
why they're here.
It needs people like us to
come in and tell their stories,
find out who is here,
and why they're here.
BRUNI: Tina Mattingly
bought the property in 2001,
with plans to convert
the sanatorium into a hotel.
Over time, Tina became
what you might call
a paranormal caretaker,
but last year,
something turned aggressive.
Over the years, I've dealt
with Tina Mattingly
on a number of occasions.
You and I have this style
of investigating
that I think Tina needs
right now.
She needs to find out who these
aggressive entities are,
what they're doing.
Yeah, like why
are they acting out?
She's all about
protecting this place
and protecting
its occupants.
And, you know,
she and her husband
had family treated here
back in the day,
so she truly cares
about the spirits
living here
in the afterlife.
So she feels like there's
something here
that needs our help.
There's always something
we can do.
Hi, Tina.
- BERRY: Good to see you.
Good to see you.
Thanks for coming.
Let's go in and talk about,
uh, what's happening here.
Okay.
I do think there are spirits
here that are unsettled.
- BRUNI: Right.
- BERRY: Mm-hmm.
They're nasty.
Yeah, and there's
usually a reason.
I like to think they're trying
to tell us something or they...
maybe they don't realize
they're even gone
or maybe they had, you know,
they didn't get to finish
their life and they're angry.
Well, I think those are
the ones that we kind of
are attracted to, in a way,
because we kind of had
this shift in
our investigative style,
where we wanted
to start helping more,
not just people like you,
but them. - Mm-hmm.
And looking at them less
like a novelty
and putting a human side to it.
- Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
- Yeah.
- I live here.
We're just learning that
the more we reach out
to these entities
and learn their stories
and their reasons
for being here,
it helps them kind of overcome
whatever's holding them here.
There is a place
on the fourth floor
I would like for y'all
to go to.
- Okay.
- Okay.
It's one of the ones
I'm the most uncomfortable in.
Something happened to me
up there.
- BRUNI: How long ago was that?
- This year.
There's something that,
I just think it might be
something unsettled
that needs help.
♪♪
BERRY:
I am still so overwhelmed
by the size of it
and the amount of people that
would be in here at one point.
Oh, gosh, yeah.
It's a 180,000 square foot
building.
- Yeah.
- Oh.
How many people were here,
at one point?
- Well, you know, it's got five floors.
- Mm-hmm.
- Over 500 rooms.
- BERRY: Yeah.
And they took a lot
of these big atrium rooms
and they would make 'em
into wards.
- Mm-hmm.
- Right.
And, you know,
so there's no telling
how many people were in here,
at one point in time.
What --
what was the death total?
It's in the thousands.
BRUNI: What kind of surgery
would you do for tuberculosis?
TINA:
Remove lungs, remove ribs.
The survival rate was,
back in that day, was about 5%.
BERRY: Oh, my God.
So show us where you had
your experience
and kind of explain to us
what it was.
Well, I've had
a lot of experiences,
but this unsettled me,
and I actually wanted
to leave the area.
And I don't usually do that.
- Right.
- Okay.
It was just unnerving.
Well, that's a lot
coming from you,
because I feel like
you've probably
had hundreds of experiences
here, at this point.
I've had a lot of things,
but not too many of 'em
make me feel uncomfortable.
This room right here.
- BERRY: Room 424.
I had about five guys
with me.
They were doing
an overnight investigation
with, you know, a form
of a Spirit Box.
And as soon as we hit
the hallway,
it was
a really bad smell.
It engulfed the whole area,
the whole floor.
And I just kind of
stood over here
while they set everything up,
and it just started going nuts.
- Mm-hmm.
And, I mean, it was
screaming and yelling.
- And cackling, laughing,
everything. - Really?
I can't even explain
what it sounded like.
It sounded like you were
just in a -- in a nuthouse.
- Really? Okay.
- Yeah.
And as I stood here,
I looked down this way,
I saw a little blue light
and I watched it move,
and it started coming this way.
It was only...probably no bigger
around than, like,
a ping-pong ball.
And when it disappeared,
that box shut up.
What did it -- what,
did it sound male, female?
- Everything? It was just
a bunch of voices? - Okay.
All right, so it was a number
of people screaming,
it sounded like?
- Yes.
And it was freaking
them out, too.
Mm-hmm.
So I took them down to the other
floor and I looked at 'em.
I said, "I'm going to go back
up on the fourth floor
and I'm going to see if
there's anybody else up there."
And I came up the stairwell
on the other end,
I'm saying,
"Is anybody up here?"
and then all of a sudden,
from the right side of me,
I mean, it was just
a shriek so loud,
it was almost deafening.
It scared me. I jumped
and I just swung around.
If I can say I've actually
smacked something...
- Mm-hmm.
- ...I did.
- That was it.
- That was it.
And I just yelled,
"You stop that!"
And as soon as I said that,
the smell was gone,
the noise was gone,
everything was gone.
Yeah, it wasn't nice.
BRUNI: What did this floor
used to be?
It was, uh, a mental floor,
for mental patients.
- BRUNI: Ohh. Okay.
- BERRY: We have a lot to do.
BRUNI: To be here for
multiple nights
and really get to delve into
this place is exciting for us.
TINA: There's something
there that needs help.
I'm sure you'll get
some answers.
BRUNI: Waverly Hills is almost
200,000 square feet.
Thousands of patients died here,
and any number of them
can be responsible
for the haunt.
So the fact that Tina
pinpointed an aggressive entity
on the fourth floor at least
gives us a starting point.
Ooh.
I'm a little nervous.
- I mean...Yeah.
BRUNI: We're setting up cameras
in the exact area
she had her encounter
[ Filtered voice ]
Camera one is up.
Hey, come look at this.
Watch this.
Yeah. That's
like something -- Oh!
What is that moving?
See that?
Yeah.
Um, is it peeking out?
It's like something's pacing
right here.
That's on the fourth floor.
Do you want to go up there?
Yeah.
BRUNI: We're headed upstairs,
where we will attempt
to make contact
with the spirit
using our recorder.
Don't you feel like
you're being watched?
Yeah.
Just have a weird feeling.
♪♪
- BERRY: Oh, ****.
- What?
This floor gives me
the creeps.
I know, me, too.
Well, especially after
what she told us today.
♪♪
It's, uh, here.
424?
I just can't stop
staring down these halls.
I know.
♪♪
All right, this is where
our friend Tina said
she heard some screaming.
Do you need help?
We help people like you.
And sometimes we can find
your family.
We can find your friends.
Would you like that?
♪♪
And if you wouldn't,
that's okay, too.
We don't have to find
your family and friends.
If you want to just talk to us,
that's okay.
♪♪
Let's listen,
but it sounds quiet.
- Hmm.
- It's not a lot of...
Ooh!
Check this out.
There was a murder.
This man killed people.
Stabbed.
I felt like something
was all on me.
♪♪
♪♪
BRUNI: Adam and I just
kicked off our investigation
of the fourth floor
at Waverly Hills,
a tuberculosis sanatorium
where thousands of people died.
And we've just made contact with
a threatening entity.
BERRY: Do you need any help?
BRUNI: Sometimes,
we can find your family.
We can find your friends...
Ooh!
No way.
That is angry.
...your friends.
Would you like that?
That's surprised the hell
out of me.
That's not a happy voice.
No!
You want to get out of here?
****, no.
- [ Whispers ] No!
Do not --
If you don't want
to find your family
and friends, that's okay.
[ Whispers ] No!
You want to get out?
[Bleep, speaks indistinctly ]
So we're in the exact spot
where she heard something
scream in her ear.
And something just screamed,
"No!" at us.
It does not want us here.
It does not like us.
- Sounds like a male.
- Mm-hmm.
Why is he so mad?
As soon as I heard that voice,
I got chills from head to toe.
- Yep. Yep.
- He is not happy,
especially when I brought up
family and friends,
which makes me wonder
if he was, like,
abandoned here or something.
- [ Sniffles ]
You also brought up
family and friends,
but you -- your words were,
"You can talk to us."
- Yeah, and he did not --
- And it's like, "No!"
That's the worst thing that we
could've heard tonight, I mean.
That voice was not happy
with us.
Something is striking a nerve.
- Yeah.
I mean, that is not something
you want to hear in Waverly.
BRUNI: Waverly Hills is not
the place to mess around.
Many of the spirits
haunting this building
feel trapped and desperate
and could be dangerous.
I'm wondering if we should
call in Chip.
Mm-hmm.
He might be able to guide us
a little more.
Find out who they are, if they
have messages to give out,
if they, what they need.
So maybe we could take him
to the fourth floor
without telling him what
experiences we've had up there
and gets his impression.
Mm-hmm.
BRUNI:
Before we bring in Chip,
Adam and I need to know
who we are dealing with.
We know the sheer numbers
of deaths
and things
that happened there,
but there has to be
some standout occurrences,
some, something, you know,
emotional or tragic
that would result
in what we're seeing there.
You know, so I'm going to
start digging in here.
When we do huge cases like this,
associated with
thousands of deaths,
we look for big,
violent acts,
any event that would
harbor extreme resentment.
So check this out.
There was a murder
at Waverly. Like, there --
like an orderly killed
one of his coworkers
on -- at Waverly.
What if that was
on the fourth floor?
I mean, I --
it would make sense.
This dude, look, this guy --
this guy ran over a nurse
on the highway out front.
2:00 in the morning.
Why is she wandering around
in front of the hospital
at 2:00 in the morning?
Maybe she was walking home.
Okay, so get this.
This woman's husband
was a patient
at Waverly Hills
for like, three months.
She meets this other dude,
Charles Chester Cureton,
at a cafe at 3:00 a.m., right?
So they clearly have a little
somethin'- somethin' going on.
Something happens,
he slaps her,
she falls on the ground,
hits her head, and dies.
She was found in an alley.
The woman's death was due to
a cerebral hemorrhage
caused by a blow
to the head.
She was the mother
of seven children.
My God.
Her husband told police
that he had been a patient
at Waverly Hills
Tuberculosis Sanatorium
for the past three years.
He said he would ask the state
to care for their children,
since he now must return
to the sanatorium
for further treatment.
And so, then their kids get
sent to state care?
- What?
- Yeah.
I mean, can you imagine?
So you go into the hospital
with tuberculosis,
three months later, you find out
your wife is cheating on you,
because she gets murdered
by her lover.
Mm-hmm.
And then you have to give
all seven of your children
to the state,
because you have tuberculosis
and you're in Waverly Hills.
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
And you spend the next...
God knows how long there,
until you die.
BRUNI:
As paranormal investigators,
names are very important.
They allow us to confront
the spirit
and determine a solution
to the problem.
Armed with the identity
of several potential culprits,
we're headed back to Waverly.
We called in Chip Coffey,
a powerful psychic medium,
who is familiar with Waverly
but is not privy
to any of the information
we just uncovered.
We're hoping he keys
in on a name.
BRUNI:
So really just kind of...
if you want to just
walk this floor.
Already got something.
Okay.
Mm. [ Sighs ]
Angry.
Female voice shouts,
"Leave me alone!"
You know that feeling you get
when you just have it?
You just don't...
You want everybody
to just get away from you?
Pushing away, frenzied almost.
Just...
I don't want to be bothered
anymore.
♪♪
♪♪
It's always interesting to me
when we bring Chip,
how the whole vibe changes.
Oh, yeah.
Like they know he's here.
- Oh, they know --
- Hoo-hoo, hoo-hoo, hoo-hoo.
Spidey senses
are really going off.
♪♪
♪♪
I'm getting stuff around
in here.
I got the chills.
You guys have been getting
more stuff down here, right?
Yeah.
[ Chuckles ] Interesting.
It's a square.
It's kind of a square shape,
like here.
- In this area.
- Yeah.
And back there,
that's more peaceful.
And this is kind of like,
kind of at odds with each other,
which is an interesting
juxtaposition.
Okay.
- I don't like this one.
- No.
- What about it?
- I don't like this one at all.
CHIP:
Doesn't like you at all.
[ Sighs ] Why?
[ Sighs deeply ]
Oh, and it just said,
"Or you either."
♪♪
He's railing on you.
This guy's ready to rumble.
- Does he rumble with others
that are here, like him? - Yep.
Oh, so they probably just
leave him alone
right here in this space.
They pretty much don't
mess with this guy.
- 'Cause he's just...
- 'Cause he's a ****.
Yeah. Okay.
You want to know
what he said about you?
- Yeah.
- "I'll kill you, you ****."
- Mmm.
- Great.
This guy can give you
symptoms, too.
I mean, my head just started
to go, "Boom!"
BRUNI: Mm-hmm.
Because of this murder,
he loses his children.
Oh, my.
That's definitely not normal.
This is Amy.
There is a lot of voices.
What is happening, you guys?
♪♪
BRUNI: We're on the fourth floor
of Waverly Hills,
the most paranormally active
and dangerous level.
We brought in Chip
to evaluate the situation
and keep us safe from
whatever's haunting this floor.
You want to know
what he said about you?
"I'll kill you, you ****."
BRUNI: Mmm.
- Have you provoked at all?
- BERRY: No.
- Lightly? Not at all?
- BOTH: No.
Don't.
- No, we've been very respectful.
- We've been very -- yeah.
I mean, that's
our whole approach.
He had a "C" associated
with his name, too.
Like, Clarence, Clement,
"C," something "C."
Charles.
Charles Chester Cureton.
Okay.
CHIP: Oh, and this man
killed people.
- Really?
- Yes.
- He killed people?
- Yes.
Stabbed.
♪♪
[ Exhales sharply ]
Did he do it here?
I don't think so.
I don't know if there were
people that were stabbed
or, uh, but killed.
Like, I'll kill you.
Hmm.
Interesting.
This guy can give you
symptoms, too.
I mean, my head just started
to go, "Boom!"
Mm-hmm.
He -- he could probably inflict
some physical stuff on you.
And you can shake it off like,
"Get away from me."
Yeah, yeah.
And he is in this section?
I think this is his
roaming grounds.
♪♪
Son-of-a-gun.
What?
-This is his room?
- This is his room?
This is his room.
Have you done any
EVP stuff up here?
Yeah, he screamed at us.
Yeah.
He screamed at Tina, too.
He screamed at us when
we were basically like,
"Do you want
to talk to us?"
BOTH: He said...
[ Whispers ] "No!"
Like, a big,
screaming "no."
Like., aggressive and really,
the only thing.
- Mm-hmm.
- Wow.
We wanted to see if you
picked up on this guy,
was the main thing.
Oh, he's -- yeah, he's --
he's an ass.
And I also will say like,
literally where we got that
EVP is right there.
And this is where
Tina had everything happen.
Yeah.
Right here is where
we got the EVP.
Yeah.
Right here.
The story is, Tina heard
all of these souls like,
literally screaming, laughing,
cackling, all at once,
through this one box,
you know, so...
Okay.
You good?
We'll come back here,
for sure.
Wait.
Hold on.
CHIP: He wants nothing
to do with you.
You got to be careful.
All right.
BRUNI: Chip Coffey,
in all the years
I have worked with you
in this capacity,
I don't know that
you have ever hit on anything
as directly as you hit on here.
CHIP: Okay.
'Cause I found this story
of a man, John Mitchell.
He had seven children.
While he's here
at Waverly Hills,
his wife has basically
taken up with another man,
and this man ends up
murdering her.
Because of this murder
and because he is here and sick,
he has to give his
seven children to the state.
So he loses his children.
- Oh, my.
Now the man who murdered her
got away with all of it.
Yeah.
So you kept saying
a "C" name, right?
Yeah.
You kept saying,
"C, C, Charles."
You said the name Charles.
- Yeah.
And you said, "C, C, C."
The man's name, the murderer --
Charles Chester Cureton.
This all happened in 1946.
The thing to remember
about the gentleman John,
who was here with
tuberculosis... - Yes.
...he ended up dying
of tuberculosis in 1959.
So he was here and sick
for years and years and years.
- Years, yeah.
- The moment we went up there,
you mentioned the people
associated with
this article, right?
So you just
literally verified to us
that we were headed
in the right direction.
- I got to stop you.
- Yeah?
This guy's trying
to just hop right in.
Huh?
He's wanting to get, like,
real close.
Okay.
Like, I'm having to
fight him off
to keep him from, like,
taking over.
Okay.
♪♪
****. He hates you.
That's just his attitude.
- BRUNI: Mm-hmm.
- Well, it's fine.
- He's coming here.
- Well --
- That's the kind, that --
- Just letting you know...
- No, I get it.
...that's the kind of mind-set
you're dealing with.
Totally. So for me --
so for me --
And if you want to know who it is that --
that's here, it's John.
John's the one that they've
been seeing here so often.
Because it wouldn't be
Charles Chester,
because he didn't die here.
Right.
I'm wondering if it is this John
who's thinking about murder
so much,
like he's like...
Mm-hmm.
Bitter and that's doubling
the whammy.
You kind of conjured him up
and he's the one,
"All right, here I am."
Yeah.
BERRY: We're headed upstairs
in search of answers,
even though Chip said
this entity can inflict harm.
We're planning to recreate
the Spirit Box session
Tina mentioned.
And it was screaming
and yelling.
Cackling, laughing, everything.
- Really?
Amy wears a blindfold
and noise-canceling headphones.
This is by design.
She can't hear any of
my questions or when I ask them.
So our friend Amy has a box
in front of her
and you can talk to her
with that box.
She's going to say
what she hears coming out of it.
We're trying to lure
John out of hiding.
If we succeed,
we'll capture an image of him
on this SLS camera.
Do you have a name?
How old are you?
"He's eating them."
Our reason for being here
is to help Tina.
"What about it?"
"Manic."
We've been nothing but nice
and courteous to you
this whole time.
"Right. Thank you."
You're welcome.
Do you need help?
This is Amy.
There is a lot of voices.
I'm having trouble
keeping up.
So please
speak one at a time.
Can you please speak
one at a time?
What is your name?
How many of you --
- "You can."
- Great.
- How many --
- "One more."
What -- If you don't talk
one at a time,
I can't --
- "The bible."
CHIP: Did you die here?
"Him."
How old is he?
"Who are you?"
My name is Adam,
and this is Chip.
This is Amy.
- "Amy."
Who are you?
Do you know John?
"What's it to you?"
"Yes."
Is that normal, for all
this movement on this?
That's -- that's definitely
not normal.
Are you standing
in front of her?
That's just -- look at that,
how far she extends out.
Yeah, something is
in front of her.
If there's somebody in front of
her, can you move to the left?
Do you need help?
"No reason."
Adam, this thing is coming all
the way back to this lantern.
- Her energy is from all the way...
- This is Amy.
I feel like someone's
right behind me.
It's freaking me out.
- [ Gasps ]
It's time that you kind of
calm down for a second
and actually
had a word with us.
And can you stop turning off
my equipment, please?
You guys, that was **** up.
♪♪
BERRY: Chip and I just
confronted an aggressive entity
haunting Waverly Hills.
We don't want to interrupt
the Spirt Box session,
but this thing is
dangerously close to Amy.
This is Amy.
I feel like someone's
right behind me.
It's freaking me out.
- [ Gasps ]
"I'm dying."
Holy crap.
This energy is all over
this lantern.
I mean, it's like, look how
far out it's extending.
- "For better."
- BERRY: Is that it?
Is that all you're going
to say to us?
"I'm hiding over here."
Okay.
- BERRY: Okay.
- Oh, God! ****
Do you see how this is just
jumping all over the place?
BERRY: Yeah. So we have --
uh, is it gone now?
No!
What is happening, you guys?
Like, what is happening?
- Oh, it's gone now.
It's gone now.
- Now it's gone.
Okay...that was a lot.
Honestly, that was a lot.
It was like, bombarding me,
and then towards the end,
I had to tell myself,
"It can't hurt you,
it can't hurt you,
it can't hurt you,"
Because I felt like something
was right behind me.
And it was just this
really overwhelming feeling.
I'm like, I don't know what's
going on right now, like, yeah.
BERRY: Okay, so this is
what we know.
It sounded like
there were times it was
answering us directly.
- Mm-hmm.
Right? Then there were times
when it seemed like
there were 90 people
talking at once.
Yes.
And then something popped up
on the screen
and at first,
I thought it was you,
but then it started extending
its body away from you.
And then you said,
"Oh, I feel like something
is right next to me,"
which was what it was showing us
on this SLS camera.
I felt like something
was all on me
and I felt
really freaked out.
So what we got from
all of this was,
A, no wonder she was hearing
all of those voices
come out of that Spirit Box.
- Right.
Everybody has something to say,
because people aren't
being heard in this space.
And it was very hard
to control them.
It seemed unorganized,
as if they're just here,
everyone's fending
for themselves.
That's what it sounded like.
I just got really light-headed.
Huh.
That's really weird.
This guy can give you
symptoms, too.
I mean, my head just started
to go, "Boom!"
Did it go away?
Yeah.
I mean, it was quick, though.
It was like...
You got to be careful.
- Okay.
- Put on your layers.
Okay.
BERRY: This thing wants nothing
to do with us.
Chip's leaving us with
an important message --
Be safe
and be prepared.
♪♪
We're nearly certain we have
the right guy, John Mitchell,
the man who lost
his wife and kids.
But normally, we get
better responses
when we address
spirits directly.
We're coming back tomorrow.
We need confirmation.
I think it's time for us
to go up to the fourth floor
and just use
everything we have.
Then maybe we can just get
some confirmation
that it's this John guy.
Get his reasoning
and his motivation.
Imagine all those things
that happened all at once.
Oh, yeah.
You're sick in the hospital
with tuberculosis.
Your wife cheating on you,
your wife is murdered,
your seven kids
are getting taken away,
all in the span
of like 12 hours.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
I mean, your entire life
in that moment.
And you're stuck here.
BRUNI: Adam and I are headed
to the fourth floor
to address John directly.
If we can confirm that's who
we're speaking with,
then we can discuss
a solution.
- God, again, every time.
- BRUNI: I know.
It's just, there's something
not okay about this spot.
Even standing here,
it feels like...
it just doesn't feel right.
And this just shut off.
- It did?
Yeah. Look at it.
That's fully charged.
Yes. There's no reason
for this to have turned off.
Something turned this off.
♪♪
If there's somebody up here,
my name is Adam and this is Amy.
Hi, there.
I want to talk to you. Please
just be open to this, okay?
I know that you've been
lashing out
at people up here
for a long time.
And I think that it's time
that you kind of
calm down for a second
and actually
had a word with us.
And can you stop turning off
my equipment, please?
I mean, look.
- Again?
- Yeah.
- Just now?
Yeah.
He doesn't like you.
Remember?
Yeah, but you know what?
I'm not going to give up.
I'm going to turn it back on.
Like, it makes no sense.
I know.
Well, don't get angry.
- I'm not angry.
I can be frustrated. - Well...
I have every right
to be frustrated.
So let's keep trying.
Just don't touch
my equipment, please.
We want to talk to you.
Last time, you seemed
a little unreceptive to this,
but I think it's time
for people to know
what's happening with you,
okay?
I found a story in a local paper
about a man named John,
and it was about
how his wife was murdered.
She was murdered while John
was here as a patient.
And because his seven children
did not have someone
to look after them,
they were given to the state.
And that's a terrible story.
He turned off
my equipment again,
so I'm not going to use it.
Just not going to use it. - Okay. Okay.
He wants me to use it,
so I'm not going to use it.
Okay.
So my question to you is...
"Are you or do you know
who John Mitchell is?"
Do you feel like your life
was taken from you?
Why did it all of a sudden
get so windy?
This breeze
all of a sudden.
Like, out of nowhere.
Yeah.
Like, only in this hallway,
it's like...
What's moving back there?
I don't know.
It sounds like footsteps.
Yeah.
John, if that's you, we want
nothing but the best for you.
We don't want you to
be here --
Oh, my God, oh, my God,
oh, my God, oh, my God,
oh, my God, oh, my God,
oh, my God.
What'd, you see him?
I **** saw somebody stand
in that hallway.
It was literally a person.
- Oh, my God.
BRUNI: Are you or do you know
who John Mitchell is?
- [ Exhales sharply ]
- Oh, my God.
♪♪
BRUNI: Extremely strange things
are happening
on the fourth floor
of Waverly Hills.
- What's moving back there?
- I don't know.
It sounds like footsteps.
- Yeah.
John, if that's you, we want
nothing but the best for you.
We don't want you to be here.
Oh, my God, oh, my God,
oh, my God, oh, my God,
Oh, my God, oh, my God,
oh, my God.
What'd, you see him?
I **** saw somebody
stand in that hallway.
Right here, to the right?
- Did you see it?
- Yes.
It was literally a person.
Oh, my God.
It like, appeared
and then disappeared.
- Yeah, Out of nowhere.
- You guys, that was **** up.
Are you kidding me?
It was standing right here.
- Yeah. Yep.
- Like, not a shadow figure.
Like, a person...
- A person.
...like, appeared
and then was gone.
Yeah, a person.
A flash of a person
standing there.
Yes. Yep.
Like...
It was like, boom,
and gone.
- Yes.
- Boom! Oh, God.
Not again, no.
Did you see it again?
Yes.
You guys, I have never, ever
seen something like that before.
Like, not since
I was a kid.
That was like horror
movie stuff.
I'm not even kidding you
right now.
Like, I'm legitimately terrified
right now.
That crazy wind
is coming through.
Yes.
Something is striking
a nerve here.
Something knows that story.
Where did the wind go?
- [ Whispers ] I don't know.
Like, I -- and my equipment
doesn't work anymore.
I know.
Things like that don't happen.
We go to places all the time,
like,
we go to places all the time.
That **** is rare.
That **** so rare.
Okay. It is.
Let's listen to this.
Did it just say its last name?
- Yes.
- "Yes."
Oh, my God.
This is...
The breeze,
the breeze is...
Yep, the breeze,
the breeze.
Oh, my God!
- Oh!
It was you!
Jesus, you just touched me.
What?
No, I didn't touch you.
- You just touched me.
- I did not touch you.
Stop it.
- There's something happening here.
- This is **** up.
You want to get out of here?
That's what I told you about.
It was like, right in my ear.
♪♪
BRUNI: We're on the fourth floor
of Waverly Hills,
totally freaked out.
Oh, my God.
- Oh!
It was you!
Jesus, you just touched me.
What?
No, I didn't touch you.
- You just touched me.
- I did not touch you.
- Stop it.
- I'm standing right here.
What are you talking about?
- [ Sighs deeply ]
You guys,
this is **** up.
This is **** happening
right now.
I'm sorry, I'm dropping f-bombs
left and right.
It's exciting,
but also it's --
No, it's a little --
it's a little much.
- It's terrifying.
- It's a little much.
There's something
happening here.
I'm confident in knowing
who it is.
I also understand
why he's not trusting
and doesn't want to talk.
Um, yeah.
No, I'm sorry.
The wind, by the way,
has not happened since.
No, I know.
Why did it all of a sudden
get so windy?
This breeze all of a sudden.
Like, out of nowhere.
The breeze alone
is nothing,
but the breeze culminating to
that full-bodied apparition...
John, if that's you,
we don't want you to be here.
Oh, my God, oh, my God,
oh, my God, oh, my God...
I **** saw somebody
stand in that hallway.
It was literally a person.
That's enough for me.
There's a part of him
still here,
still really
freaking pissed about it.
And there's nothing that
we can say
right this moment
that's going to fix it.
- Tina --
- He was robbed of so much.
Tina can make sure
that people know the story.
And Tina can make sure
that when people come up here,
they're respectful and kind
in a way
that he have not been used to.
And whether or not he wants
to talk about it,
maybe he'll let
other people know.
I mean, he yelled at us
the first time...
Ooh.
...it's a sore subject.
Imagine sitting on that
for that long.
And then having us come in
and be like,
"Hey, is this
the right thing?"
you know, and suddenly having
to face it again.
I think we need to go to Tina.
We need to tell her the story.
We need to get it out there.
Ugh.
That was intense.
- I'm ready.
- That was a lot.
I'm ready to call it.
BRUNI: By revealing
John's story and sympathizing
with his terrible loss,
we're confident
he will slowly heal,
but only if Tina is receptive
to what we have to say.
♪♪
- Welcome back.
- Ah. Same to you.
Well, this has been
a very eventful few days.
When we got here and we
started talking to you,
it was very clear
that you wanted to find out
what was on that fourth floor.
Going up
onto the fourth floor,
we immediately encountered
whoever it is up
there that you've had
experiences with.
And I'll play you
the first EVP.
This was our first night.
He made his unhappiness
known very quickly to us.
That's what I told you about,
it was like right in my ear.
Whoever that was, was very
clear, screaming like, "No!"
They had no interest
in talking to us.
And we were like, "Okay,
now we know where we stand."
We got evidence, but it was
nothing that was bringing us
closer to an answer.
And so, that's why we asked
Chip to come out.
He immediately went to your spot
on the fourth floor.
Yeah.
And he was very clear,
there was something there
very angry and upset.
And then he started
naming names.
He kept saying "Charles,
I keep getting C, C, C,"
over and over again.
So I found a story.
This woman, her husband was
here at Waverly
being treated
for tuberculosis.
She met another man.
That man
ended up killing her.
His name was
Charles Chester.
And his last name
started with a "C.
So...
- Wow.
- Yeah.
It's just too much
of a coincidence for us
to ignore, you know.
You have Chip who knows
absolutely nothing about like,
who would know about this,
right, comes into this --
- I didn't know about it.
- Right.
- And I know --
- And you know everything.
I really didn't think
y'all could come up
with something I didn't know.
- Right.
Not only did he go to
the fourth floor
and walk right to the area,
but to have him --
- You can feel that in here.
- ...to have him say the name.
Then you start thinking, okay,
but Charles was not here.
He wasn't at Waverly.
- Right. Right, right, right.
- John was.
And we think John
has just been
harboring that anger
and that resentment.
You know, he's not someone
you can just crossover
and so it's scary --
- He's probably trying to --
been trying to get through
for quite awhile.
Yes, and nobody knew
the story, though.
Making me feel --
you can feel that sadness.
Yeah. As far as John goes on
the fourth floor, he's angry.
We just recommend, when you
have investigators come in,
you make them aware of him.
The more people go up there
and talk to him,
and tell him that they're
sympathetic to him, I think --
- Maybe he can let go.
- Exactly.
I'll try to help him.
- Yeah.
- That really does help a lot.
I mean, again,
that wasn't necessarily,
wasn't our main focus
when we got here,
but it became that.
It really became that.
Well, they made sure
that that was your focus.
- Yeah, they did.
- Yeah. They actually did.
They probably knew
he needed it most.
- He'll let go one day.
- Yes.
BRUNI: This is the exact reason
Adam and I are so adamant
about identifying the spirits
responsible for a haunt.
Their name helps us
tell their story
and in a way,
makes them human again.
♪♪
she heard something scream.
And something
just screamed at us.
They didn't get to finish
their life and they're angry.
CHIP:
This man killed people.
He said, "No!"
This guy's ready to rumble.
Can you stop
turning off my equipment?
I **** saw somebody
stand in that hallway.
That **** is rare.
He's coming here.
Just letting you know
he wants nothing to do with you.
♪♪
[ Crows cawing ]
BRUNI: When the dead are
forgotten, they become restless.
Oh, my God!
You just touched me.
What? I did not touch you.
I'm Amy Bruni.
A haunting encounter
redefined my life.
I live with that experience
and seek answers to the unknown.
It says, "I am."
I'm Adam Berry.
At Gettysburg, the shadows
and screams of dead soldiers
turned me into
a supernatural believer.
Oh, my God.
Together, our investigations
bring peace to the living...
You can't scare us,
you can't deter us.
...by giving a voice
to the dead.
I'm gonna ask you
one more time.
What is your name?
Because we believe the dead
and the living are all...
kindred spirits.
Kindred spirits.
♪♪
BRUNI: Adam and I have been
called to Louisville, Kentucky,
home to the infamous
Waverly Hills Sanatorium,
one of the most paranormally
active locations
in the entire world.
Looking at that building,
it is one of the most
ominous structures.
and then when you think
of everything that happened
in those walls, it's just...
it's overwhelming.
Before the invention
of antibiotics,
a respiratory illness called
tuberculosis wiped out millions.
Doctors called it
"the white plague,"
patients called it
a death sentence.
In Jefferson County, Kentucky,
the epidemic was so bad
that officials planned
to contain the disease
by quarantining the sick.
The rapid construction of
Waverly Hills began in 1912.
BERRY: I mean,
going up this driveway,
seeing where you were
going to be,
possibly where you're going
to die is, like, intense.
BRUNI: Desperate
to discover a cure,
doctors conducted experimental
and oftentimes
barbaric surgeries.
The death count at Waverly Hills
ranges wildly.
Some say as many as
8,000 patients died here.
Others suggest more than 50,000.
The hospital closed in 1961,
after scientists
finally discovered a cure.
You don't walk into Waverly
and not have some sort
of paranormal experience.
Big haunts like this,
they become notorious for
the activity and for the scares.
I think there are
a ton of things
that will reach out to us,
because everyone wants to speak.
I feel like there are people
here who are just...
that may have died here
who are just here
and they don't know
why they're here.
It needs people like us to
come in and tell their stories,
find out who is here,
and why they're here.
BRUNI: Tina Mattingly
bought the property in 2001,
with plans to convert
the sanatorium into a hotel.
Over time, Tina became
what you might call
a paranormal caretaker,
but last year,
something turned aggressive.
Over the years, I've dealt
with Tina Mattingly
on a number of occasions.
You and I have this style
of investigating
that I think Tina needs
right now.
She needs to find out who these
aggressive entities are,
what they're doing.
Yeah, like why
are they acting out?
She's all about
protecting this place
and protecting
its occupants.
And, you know,
she and her husband
had family treated here
back in the day,
so she truly cares
about the spirits
living here
in the afterlife.
So she feels like there's
something here
that needs our help.
There's always something
we can do.
Hi, Tina.
- BERRY: Good to see you.
Good to see you.
Thanks for coming.
Let's go in and talk about,
uh, what's happening here.
Okay.
I do think there are spirits
here that are unsettled.
- BRUNI: Right.
- BERRY: Mm-hmm.
They're nasty.
Yeah, and there's
usually a reason.
I like to think they're trying
to tell us something or they...
maybe they don't realize
they're even gone
or maybe they had, you know,
they didn't get to finish
their life and they're angry.
Well, I think those are
the ones that we kind of
are attracted to, in a way,
because we kind of had
this shift in
our investigative style,
where we wanted
to start helping more,
not just people like you,
but them. - Mm-hmm.
And looking at them less
like a novelty
and putting a human side to it.
- Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
- Yeah.
- I live here.
We're just learning that
the more we reach out
to these entities
and learn their stories
and their reasons
for being here,
it helps them kind of overcome
whatever's holding them here.
There is a place
on the fourth floor
I would like for y'all
to go to.
- Okay.
- Okay.
It's one of the ones
I'm the most uncomfortable in.
Something happened to me
up there.
- BRUNI: How long ago was that?
- This year.
There's something that,
I just think it might be
something unsettled
that needs help.
♪♪
BERRY:
I am still so overwhelmed
by the size of it
and the amount of people that
would be in here at one point.
Oh, gosh, yeah.
It's a 180,000 square foot
building.
- Yeah.
- Oh.
How many people were here,
at one point?
- Well, you know, it's got five floors.
- Mm-hmm.
- Over 500 rooms.
- BERRY: Yeah.
And they took a lot
of these big atrium rooms
and they would make 'em
into wards.
- Mm-hmm.
- Right.
And, you know,
so there's no telling
how many people were in here,
at one point in time.
What --
what was the death total?
It's in the thousands.
BRUNI: What kind of surgery
would you do for tuberculosis?
TINA:
Remove lungs, remove ribs.
The survival rate was,
back in that day, was about 5%.
BERRY: Oh, my God.
So show us where you had
your experience
and kind of explain to us
what it was.
Well, I've had
a lot of experiences,
but this unsettled me,
and I actually wanted
to leave the area.
And I don't usually do that.
- Right.
- Okay.
It was just unnerving.
Well, that's a lot
coming from you,
because I feel like
you've probably
had hundreds of experiences
here, at this point.
I've had a lot of things,
but not too many of 'em
make me feel uncomfortable.
This room right here.
- BERRY: Room 424.
I had about five guys
with me.
They were doing
an overnight investigation
with, you know, a form
of a Spirit Box.
And as soon as we hit
the hallway,
it was
a really bad smell.
It engulfed the whole area,
the whole floor.
And I just kind of
stood over here
while they set everything up,
and it just started going nuts.
- Mm-hmm.
And, I mean, it was
screaming and yelling.
- And cackling, laughing,
everything. - Really?
I can't even explain
what it sounded like.
It sounded like you were
just in a -- in a nuthouse.
- Really? Okay.
- Yeah.
And as I stood here,
I looked down this way,
I saw a little blue light
and I watched it move,
and it started coming this way.
It was only...probably no bigger
around than, like,
a ping-pong ball.
And when it disappeared,
that box shut up.
What did it -- what,
did it sound male, female?
- Everything? It was just
a bunch of voices? - Okay.
All right, so it was a number
of people screaming,
it sounded like?
- Yes.
And it was freaking
them out, too.
Mm-hmm.
So I took them down to the other
floor and I looked at 'em.
I said, "I'm going to go back
up on the fourth floor
and I'm going to see if
there's anybody else up there."
And I came up the stairwell
on the other end,
I'm saying,
"Is anybody up here?"
and then all of a sudden,
from the right side of me,
I mean, it was just
a shriek so loud,
it was almost deafening.
It scared me. I jumped
and I just swung around.
If I can say I've actually
smacked something...
- Mm-hmm.
- ...I did.
- That was it.
- That was it.
And I just yelled,
"You stop that!"
And as soon as I said that,
the smell was gone,
the noise was gone,
everything was gone.
Yeah, it wasn't nice.
BRUNI: What did this floor
used to be?
It was, uh, a mental floor,
for mental patients.
- BRUNI: Ohh. Okay.
- BERRY: We have a lot to do.
BRUNI: To be here for
multiple nights
and really get to delve into
this place is exciting for us.
TINA: There's something
there that needs help.
I'm sure you'll get
some answers.
BRUNI: Waverly Hills is almost
200,000 square feet.
Thousands of patients died here,
and any number of them
can be responsible
for the haunt.
So the fact that Tina
pinpointed an aggressive entity
on the fourth floor at least
gives us a starting point.
Ooh.
I'm a little nervous.
- I mean...Yeah.
BRUNI: We're setting up cameras
in the exact area
she had her encounter
[ Filtered voice ]
Camera one is up.
Hey, come look at this.
Watch this.
Yeah. That's
like something -- Oh!
What is that moving?
See that?
Yeah.
Um, is it peeking out?
It's like something's pacing
right here.
That's on the fourth floor.
Do you want to go up there?
Yeah.
BRUNI: We're headed upstairs,
where we will attempt
to make contact
with the spirit
using our recorder.
Don't you feel like
you're being watched?
Yeah.
Just have a weird feeling.
♪♪
- BERRY: Oh, ****.
- What?
This floor gives me
the creeps.
I know, me, too.
Well, especially after
what she told us today.
♪♪
It's, uh, here.
424?
I just can't stop
staring down these halls.
I know.
♪♪
All right, this is where
our friend Tina said
she heard some screaming.
Do you need help?
We help people like you.
And sometimes we can find
your family.
We can find your friends.
Would you like that?
♪♪
And if you wouldn't,
that's okay, too.
We don't have to find
your family and friends.
If you want to just talk to us,
that's okay.
♪♪
Let's listen,
but it sounds quiet.
- Hmm.
- It's not a lot of...
Ooh!
Check this out.
There was a murder.
This man killed people.
Stabbed.
I felt like something
was all on me.
♪♪
♪♪
BRUNI: Adam and I just
kicked off our investigation
of the fourth floor
at Waverly Hills,
a tuberculosis sanatorium
where thousands of people died.
And we've just made contact with
a threatening entity.
BERRY: Do you need any help?
BRUNI: Sometimes,
we can find your family.
We can find your friends...
Ooh!
No way.
That is angry.
...your friends.
Would you like that?
That's surprised the hell
out of me.
That's not a happy voice.
No!
You want to get out of here?
****, no.
- [ Whispers ] No!
Do not --
If you don't want
to find your family
and friends, that's okay.
[ Whispers ] No!
You want to get out?
[Bleep, speaks indistinctly ]
So we're in the exact spot
where she heard something
scream in her ear.
And something just screamed,
"No!" at us.
It does not want us here.
It does not like us.
- Sounds like a male.
- Mm-hmm.
Why is he so mad?
As soon as I heard that voice,
I got chills from head to toe.
- Yep. Yep.
- He is not happy,
especially when I brought up
family and friends,
which makes me wonder
if he was, like,
abandoned here or something.
- [ Sniffles ]
You also brought up
family and friends,
but you -- your words were,
"You can talk to us."
- Yeah, and he did not --
- And it's like, "No!"
That's the worst thing that we
could've heard tonight, I mean.
That voice was not happy
with us.
Something is striking a nerve.
- Yeah.
I mean, that is not something
you want to hear in Waverly.
BRUNI: Waverly Hills is not
the place to mess around.
Many of the spirits
haunting this building
feel trapped and desperate
and could be dangerous.
I'm wondering if we should
call in Chip.
Mm-hmm.
He might be able to guide us
a little more.
Find out who they are, if they
have messages to give out,
if they, what they need.
So maybe we could take him
to the fourth floor
without telling him what
experiences we've had up there
and gets his impression.
Mm-hmm.
BRUNI:
Before we bring in Chip,
Adam and I need to know
who we are dealing with.
We know the sheer numbers
of deaths
and things
that happened there,
but there has to be
some standout occurrences,
some, something, you know,
emotional or tragic
that would result
in what we're seeing there.
You know, so I'm going to
start digging in here.
When we do huge cases like this,
associated with
thousands of deaths,
we look for big,
violent acts,
any event that would
harbor extreme resentment.
So check this out.
There was a murder
at Waverly. Like, there --
like an orderly killed
one of his coworkers
on -- at Waverly.
What if that was
on the fourth floor?
I mean, I --
it would make sense.
This dude, look, this guy --
this guy ran over a nurse
on the highway out front.
2:00 in the morning.
Why is she wandering around
in front of the hospital
at 2:00 in the morning?
Maybe she was walking home.
Okay, so get this.
This woman's husband
was a patient
at Waverly Hills
for like, three months.
She meets this other dude,
Charles Chester Cureton,
at a cafe at 3:00 a.m., right?
So they clearly have a little
somethin'- somethin' going on.
Something happens,
he slaps her,
she falls on the ground,
hits her head, and dies.
She was found in an alley.
The woman's death was due to
a cerebral hemorrhage
caused by a blow
to the head.
She was the mother
of seven children.
My God.
Her husband told police
that he had been a patient
at Waverly Hills
Tuberculosis Sanatorium
for the past three years.
He said he would ask the state
to care for their children,
since he now must return
to the sanatorium
for further treatment.
And so, then their kids get
sent to state care?
- What?
- Yeah.
I mean, can you imagine?
So you go into the hospital
with tuberculosis,
three months later, you find out
your wife is cheating on you,
because she gets murdered
by her lover.
Mm-hmm.
And then you have to give
all seven of your children
to the state,
because you have tuberculosis
and you're in Waverly Hills.
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
And you spend the next...
God knows how long there,
until you die.
BRUNI:
As paranormal investigators,
names are very important.
They allow us to confront
the spirit
and determine a solution
to the problem.
Armed with the identity
of several potential culprits,
we're headed back to Waverly.
We called in Chip Coffey,
a powerful psychic medium,
who is familiar with Waverly
but is not privy
to any of the information
we just uncovered.
We're hoping he keys
in on a name.
BRUNI:
So really just kind of...
if you want to just
walk this floor.
Already got something.
Okay.
Mm. [ Sighs ]
Angry.
Female voice shouts,
"Leave me alone!"
You know that feeling you get
when you just have it?
You just don't...
You want everybody
to just get away from you?
Pushing away, frenzied almost.
Just...
I don't want to be bothered
anymore.
♪♪
♪♪
It's always interesting to me
when we bring Chip,
how the whole vibe changes.
Oh, yeah.
Like they know he's here.
- Oh, they know --
- Hoo-hoo, hoo-hoo, hoo-hoo.
Spidey senses
are really going off.
♪♪
♪♪
I'm getting stuff around
in here.
I got the chills.
You guys have been getting
more stuff down here, right?
Yeah.
[ Chuckles ] Interesting.
It's a square.
It's kind of a square shape,
like here.
- In this area.
- Yeah.
And back there,
that's more peaceful.
And this is kind of like,
kind of at odds with each other,
which is an interesting
juxtaposition.
Okay.
- I don't like this one.
- No.
- What about it?
- I don't like this one at all.
CHIP:
Doesn't like you at all.
[ Sighs ] Why?
[ Sighs deeply ]
Oh, and it just said,
"Or you either."
♪♪
He's railing on you.
This guy's ready to rumble.
- Does he rumble with others
that are here, like him? - Yep.
Oh, so they probably just
leave him alone
right here in this space.
They pretty much don't
mess with this guy.
- 'Cause he's just...
- 'Cause he's a ****.
Yeah. Okay.
You want to know
what he said about you?
- Yeah.
- "I'll kill you, you ****."
- Mmm.
- Great.
This guy can give you
symptoms, too.
I mean, my head just started
to go, "Boom!"
BRUNI: Mm-hmm.
Because of this murder,
he loses his children.
Oh, my.
That's definitely not normal.
This is Amy.
There is a lot of voices.
What is happening, you guys?
♪♪
BRUNI: We're on the fourth floor
of Waverly Hills,
the most paranormally active
and dangerous level.
We brought in Chip
to evaluate the situation
and keep us safe from
whatever's haunting this floor.
You want to know
what he said about you?
"I'll kill you, you ****."
BRUNI: Mmm.
- Have you provoked at all?
- BERRY: No.
- Lightly? Not at all?
- BOTH: No.
Don't.
- No, we've been very respectful.
- We've been very -- yeah.
I mean, that's
our whole approach.
He had a "C" associated
with his name, too.
Like, Clarence, Clement,
"C," something "C."
Charles.
Charles Chester Cureton.
Okay.
CHIP: Oh, and this man
killed people.
- Really?
- Yes.
- He killed people?
- Yes.
Stabbed.
♪♪
[ Exhales sharply ]
Did he do it here?
I don't think so.
I don't know if there were
people that were stabbed
or, uh, but killed.
Like, I'll kill you.
Hmm.
Interesting.
This guy can give you
symptoms, too.
I mean, my head just started
to go, "Boom!"
Mm-hmm.
He -- he could probably inflict
some physical stuff on you.
And you can shake it off like,
"Get away from me."
Yeah, yeah.
And he is in this section?
I think this is his
roaming grounds.
♪♪
Son-of-a-gun.
What?
-This is his room?
- This is his room?
This is his room.
Have you done any
EVP stuff up here?
Yeah, he screamed at us.
Yeah.
He screamed at Tina, too.
He screamed at us when
we were basically like,
"Do you want
to talk to us?"
BOTH: He said...
[ Whispers ] "No!"
Like, a big,
screaming "no."
Like., aggressive and really,
the only thing.
- Mm-hmm.
- Wow.
We wanted to see if you
picked up on this guy,
was the main thing.
Oh, he's -- yeah, he's --
he's an ass.
And I also will say like,
literally where we got that
EVP is right there.
And this is where
Tina had everything happen.
Yeah.
Right here is where
we got the EVP.
Yeah.
Right here.
The story is, Tina heard
all of these souls like,
literally screaming, laughing,
cackling, all at once,
through this one box,
you know, so...
Okay.
You good?
We'll come back here,
for sure.
Wait.
Hold on.
CHIP: He wants nothing
to do with you.
You got to be careful.
All right.
BRUNI: Chip Coffey,
in all the years
I have worked with you
in this capacity,
I don't know that
you have ever hit on anything
as directly as you hit on here.
CHIP: Okay.
'Cause I found this story
of a man, John Mitchell.
He had seven children.
While he's here
at Waverly Hills,
his wife has basically
taken up with another man,
and this man ends up
murdering her.
Because of this murder
and because he is here and sick,
he has to give his
seven children to the state.
So he loses his children.
- Oh, my.
Now the man who murdered her
got away with all of it.
Yeah.
So you kept saying
a "C" name, right?
Yeah.
You kept saying,
"C, C, Charles."
You said the name Charles.
- Yeah.
And you said, "C, C, C."
The man's name, the murderer --
Charles Chester Cureton.
This all happened in 1946.
The thing to remember
about the gentleman John,
who was here with
tuberculosis... - Yes.
...he ended up dying
of tuberculosis in 1959.
So he was here and sick
for years and years and years.
- Years, yeah.
- The moment we went up there,
you mentioned the people
associated with
this article, right?
So you just
literally verified to us
that we were headed
in the right direction.
- I got to stop you.
- Yeah?
This guy's trying
to just hop right in.
Huh?
He's wanting to get, like,
real close.
Okay.
Like, I'm having to
fight him off
to keep him from, like,
taking over.
Okay.
♪♪
****. He hates you.
That's just his attitude.
- BRUNI: Mm-hmm.
- Well, it's fine.
- He's coming here.
- Well --
- That's the kind, that --
- Just letting you know...
- No, I get it.
...that's the kind of mind-set
you're dealing with.
Totally. So for me --
so for me --
And if you want to know who it is that --
that's here, it's John.
John's the one that they've
been seeing here so often.
Because it wouldn't be
Charles Chester,
because he didn't die here.
Right.
I'm wondering if it is this John
who's thinking about murder
so much,
like he's like...
Mm-hmm.
Bitter and that's doubling
the whammy.
You kind of conjured him up
and he's the one,
"All right, here I am."
Yeah.
BERRY: We're headed upstairs
in search of answers,
even though Chip said
this entity can inflict harm.
We're planning to recreate
the Spirit Box session
Tina mentioned.
And it was screaming
and yelling.
Cackling, laughing, everything.
- Really?
Amy wears a blindfold
and noise-canceling headphones.
This is by design.
She can't hear any of
my questions or when I ask them.
So our friend Amy has a box
in front of her
and you can talk to her
with that box.
She's going to say
what she hears coming out of it.
We're trying to lure
John out of hiding.
If we succeed,
we'll capture an image of him
on this SLS camera.
Do you have a name?
How old are you?
"He's eating them."
Our reason for being here
is to help Tina.
"What about it?"
"Manic."
We've been nothing but nice
and courteous to you
this whole time.
"Right. Thank you."
You're welcome.
Do you need help?
This is Amy.
There is a lot of voices.
I'm having trouble
keeping up.
So please
speak one at a time.
Can you please speak
one at a time?
What is your name?
How many of you --
- "You can."
- Great.
- How many --
- "One more."
What -- If you don't talk
one at a time,
I can't --
- "The bible."
CHIP: Did you die here?
"Him."
How old is he?
"Who are you?"
My name is Adam,
and this is Chip.
This is Amy.
- "Amy."
Who are you?
Do you know John?
"What's it to you?"
"Yes."
Is that normal, for all
this movement on this?
That's -- that's definitely
not normal.
Are you standing
in front of her?
That's just -- look at that,
how far she extends out.
Yeah, something is
in front of her.
If there's somebody in front of
her, can you move to the left?
Do you need help?
"No reason."
Adam, this thing is coming all
the way back to this lantern.
- Her energy is from all the way...
- This is Amy.
I feel like someone's
right behind me.
It's freaking me out.
- [ Gasps ]
It's time that you kind of
calm down for a second
and actually
had a word with us.
And can you stop turning off
my equipment, please?
You guys, that was **** up.
♪♪
BERRY: Chip and I just
confronted an aggressive entity
haunting Waverly Hills.
We don't want to interrupt
the Spirt Box session,
but this thing is
dangerously close to Amy.
This is Amy.
I feel like someone's
right behind me.
It's freaking me out.
- [ Gasps ]
"I'm dying."
Holy crap.
This energy is all over
this lantern.
I mean, it's like, look how
far out it's extending.
- "For better."
- BERRY: Is that it?
Is that all you're going
to say to us?
"I'm hiding over here."
Okay.
- BERRY: Okay.
- Oh, God! ****
Do you see how this is just
jumping all over the place?
BERRY: Yeah. So we have --
uh, is it gone now?
No!
What is happening, you guys?
Like, what is happening?
- Oh, it's gone now.
It's gone now.
- Now it's gone.
Okay...that was a lot.
Honestly, that was a lot.
It was like, bombarding me,
and then towards the end,
I had to tell myself,
"It can't hurt you,
it can't hurt you,
it can't hurt you,"
Because I felt like something
was right behind me.
And it was just this
really overwhelming feeling.
I'm like, I don't know what's
going on right now, like, yeah.
BERRY: Okay, so this is
what we know.
It sounded like
there were times it was
answering us directly.
- Mm-hmm.
Right? Then there were times
when it seemed like
there were 90 people
talking at once.
Yes.
And then something popped up
on the screen
and at first,
I thought it was you,
but then it started extending
its body away from you.
And then you said,
"Oh, I feel like something
is right next to me,"
which was what it was showing us
on this SLS camera.
I felt like something
was all on me
and I felt
really freaked out.
So what we got from
all of this was,
A, no wonder she was hearing
all of those voices
come out of that Spirit Box.
- Right.
Everybody has something to say,
because people aren't
being heard in this space.
And it was very hard
to control them.
It seemed unorganized,
as if they're just here,
everyone's fending
for themselves.
That's what it sounded like.
I just got really light-headed.
Huh.
That's really weird.
This guy can give you
symptoms, too.
I mean, my head just started
to go, "Boom!"
Did it go away?
Yeah.
I mean, it was quick, though.
It was like...
You got to be careful.
- Okay.
- Put on your layers.
Okay.
BERRY: This thing wants nothing
to do with us.
Chip's leaving us with
an important message --
Be safe
and be prepared.
♪♪
We're nearly certain we have
the right guy, John Mitchell,
the man who lost
his wife and kids.
But normally, we get
better responses
when we address
spirits directly.
We're coming back tomorrow.
We need confirmation.
I think it's time for us
to go up to the fourth floor
and just use
everything we have.
Then maybe we can just get
some confirmation
that it's this John guy.
Get his reasoning
and his motivation.
Imagine all those things
that happened all at once.
Oh, yeah.
You're sick in the hospital
with tuberculosis.
Your wife cheating on you,
your wife is murdered,
your seven kids
are getting taken away,
all in the span
of like 12 hours.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
I mean, your entire life
in that moment.
And you're stuck here.
BRUNI: Adam and I are headed
to the fourth floor
to address John directly.
If we can confirm that's who
we're speaking with,
then we can discuss
a solution.
- God, again, every time.
- BRUNI: I know.
It's just, there's something
not okay about this spot.
Even standing here,
it feels like...
it just doesn't feel right.
And this just shut off.
- It did?
Yeah. Look at it.
That's fully charged.
Yes. There's no reason
for this to have turned off.
Something turned this off.
♪♪
If there's somebody up here,
my name is Adam and this is Amy.
Hi, there.
I want to talk to you. Please
just be open to this, okay?
I know that you've been
lashing out
at people up here
for a long time.
And I think that it's time
that you kind of
calm down for a second
and actually
had a word with us.
And can you stop turning off
my equipment, please?
I mean, look.
- Again?
- Yeah.
- Just now?
Yeah.
He doesn't like you.
Remember?
Yeah, but you know what?
I'm not going to give up.
I'm going to turn it back on.
Like, it makes no sense.
I know.
Well, don't get angry.
- I'm not angry.
I can be frustrated. - Well...
I have every right
to be frustrated.
So let's keep trying.
Just don't touch
my equipment, please.
We want to talk to you.
Last time, you seemed
a little unreceptive to this,
but I think it's time
for people to know
what's happening with you,
okay?
I found a story in a local paper
about a man named John,
and it was about
how his wife was murdered.
She was murdered while John
was here as a patient.
And because his seven children
did not have someone
to look after them,
they were given to the state.
And that's a terrible story.
He turned off
my equipment again,
so I'm not going to use it.
Just not going to use it. - Okay. Okay.
He wants me to use it,
so I'm not going to use it.
Okay.
So my question to you is...
"Are you or do you know
who John Mitchell is?"
Do you feel like your life
was taken from you?
Why did it all of a sudden
get so windy?
This breeze
all of a sudden.
Like, out of nowhere.
Yeah.
Like, only in this hallway,
it's like...
What's moving back there?
I don't know.
It sounds like footsteps.
Yeah.
John, if that's you, we want
nothing but the best for you.
We don't want you to
be here --
Oh, my God, oh, my God,
oh, my God, oh, my God,
oh, my God, oh, my God,
oh, my God.
What'd, you see him?
I **** saw somebody stand
in that hallway.
It was literally a person.
- Oh, my God.
BRUNI: Are you or do you know
who John Mitchell is?
- [ Exhales sharply ]
- Oh, my God.
♪♪
BRUNI: Extremely strange things
are happening
on the fourth floor
of Waverly Hills.
- What's moving back there?
- I don't know.
It sounds like footsteps.
- Yeah.
John, if that's you, we want
nothing but the best for you.
We don't want you to be here.
Oh, my God, oh, my God,
oh, my God, oh, my God,
Oh, my God, oh, my God,
oh, my God.
What'd, you see him?
I **** saw somebody
stand in that hallway.
Right here, to the right?
- Did you see it?
- Yes.
It was literally a person.
Oh, my God.
It like, appeared
and then disappeared.
- Yeah, Out of nowhere.
- You guys, that was **** up.
Are you kidding me?
It was standing right here.
- Yeah. Yep.
- Like, not a shadow figure.
Like, a person...
- A person.
...like, appeared
and then was gone.
Yeah, a person.
A flash of a person
standing there.
Yes. Yep.
Like...
It was like, boom,
and gone.
- Yes.
- Boom! Oh, God.
Not again, no.
Did you see it again?
Yes.
You guys, I have never, ever
seen something like that before.
Like, not since
I was a kid.
That was like horror
movie stuff.
I'm not even kidding you
right now.
Like, I'm legitimately terrified
right now.
That crazy wind
is coming through.
Yes.
Something is striking
a nerve here.
Something knows that story.
Where did the wind go?
- [ Whispers ] I don't know.
Like, I -- and my equipment
doesn't work anymore.
I know.
Things like that don't happen.
We go to places all the time,
like,
we go to places all the time.
That **** is rare.
That **** so rare.
Okay. It is.
Let's listen to this.
Did it just say its last name?
- Yes.
- "Yes."
Oh, my God.
This is...
The breeze,
the breeze is...
Yep, the breeze,
the breeze.
Oh, my God!
- Oh!
It was you!
Jesus, you just touched me.
What?
No, I didn't touch you.
- You just touched me.
- I did not touch you.
Stop it.
- There's something happening here.
- This is **** up.
You want to get out of here?
That's what I told you about.
It was like, right in my ear.
♪♪
BRUNI: We're on the fourth floor
of Waverly Hills,
totally freaked out.
Oh, my God.
- Oh!
It was you!
Jesus, you just touched me.
What?
No, I didn't touch you.
- You just touched me.
- I did not touch you.
- Stop it.
- I'm standing right here.
What are you talking about?
- [ Sighs deeply ]
You guys,
this is **** up.
This is **** happening
right now.
I'm sorry, I'm dropping f-bombs
left and right.
It's exciting,
but also it's --
No, it's a little --
it's a little much.
- It's terrifying.
- It's a little much.
There's something
happening here.
I'm confident in knowing
who it is.
I also understand
why he's not trusting
and doesn't want to talk.
Um, yeah.
No, I'm sorry.
The wind, by the way,
has not happened since.
No, I know.
Why did it all of a sudden
get so windy?
This breeze all of a sudden.
Like, out of nowhere.
The breeze alone
is nothing,
but the breeze culminating to
that full-bodied apparition...
John, if that's you,
we don't want you to be here.
Oh, my God, oh, my God,
oh, my God, oh, my God...
I **** saw somebody
stand in that hallway.
It was literally a person.
That's enough for me.
There's a part of him
still here,
still really
freaking pissed about it.
And there's nothing that
we can say
right this moment
that's going to fix it.
- Tina --
- He was robbed of so much.
Tina can make sure
that people know the story.
And Tina can make sure
that when people come up here,
they're respectful and kind
in a way
that he have not been used to.
And whether or not he wants
to talk about it,
maybe he'll let
other people know.
I mean, he yelled at us
the first time...
Ooh.
...it's a sore subject.
Imagine sitting on that
for that long.
And then having us come in
and be like,
"Hey, is this
the right thing?"
you know, and suddenly having
to face it again.
I think we need to go to Tina.
We need to tell her the story.
We need to get it out there.
Ugh.
That was intense.
- I'm ready.
- That was a lot.
I'm ready to call it.
BRUNI: By revealing
John's story and sympathizing
with his terrible loss,
we're confident
he will slowly heal,
but only if Tina is receptive
to what we have to say.
♪♪
- Welcome back.
- Ah. Same to you.
Well, this has been
a very eventful few days.
When we got here and we
started talking to you,
it was very clear
that you wanted to find out
what was on that fourth floor.
Going up
onto the fourth floor,
we immediately encountered
whoever it is up
there that you've had
experiences with.
And I'll play you
the first EVP.
This was our first night.
He made his unhappiness
known very quickly to us.
That's what I told you about,
it was like right in my ear.
Whoever that was, was very
clear, screaming like, "No!"
They had no interest
in talking to us.
And we were like, "Okay,
now we know where we stand."
We got evidence, but it was
nothing that was bringing us
closer to an answer.
And so, that's why we asked
Chip to come out.
He immediately went to your spot
on the fourth floor.
Yeah.
And he was very clear,
there was something there
very angry and upset.
And then he started
naming names.
He kept saying "Charles,
I keep getting C, C, C,"
over and over again.
So I found a story.
This woman, her husband was
here at Waverly
being treated
for tuberculosis.
She met another man.
That man
ended up killing her.
His name was
Charles Chester.
And his last name
started with a "C.
So...
- Wow.
- Yeah.
It's just too much
of a coincidence for us
to ignore, you know.
You have Chip who knows
absolutely nothing about like,
who would know about this,
right, comes into this --
- I didn't know about it.
- Right.
- And I know --
- And you know everything.
I really didn't think
y'all could come up
with something I didn't know.
- Right.
Not only did he go to
the fourth floor
and walk right to the area,
but to have him --
- You can feel that in here.
- ...to have him say the name.
Then you start thinking, okay,
but Charles was not here.
He wasn't at Waverly.
- Right. Right, right, right.
- John was.
And we think John
has just been
harboring that anger
and that resentment.
You know, he's not someone
you can just crossover
and so it's scary --
- He's probably trying to --
been trying to get through
for quite awhile.
Yes, and nobody knew
the story, though.
Making me feel --
you can feel that sadness.
Yeah. As far as John goes on
the fourth floor, he's angry.
We just recommend, when you
have investigators come in,
you make them aware of him.
The more people go up there
and talk to him,
and tell him that they're
sympathetic to him, I think --
- Maybe he can let go.
- Exactly.
I'll try to help him.
- Yeah.
- That really does help a lot.
I mean, again,
that wasn't necessarily,
wasn't our main focus
when we got here,
but it became that.
It really became that.
Well, they made sure
that that was your focus.
- Yeah, they did.
- Yeah. They actually did.
They probably knew
he needed it most.
- He'll let go one day.
- Yes.
BRUNI: This is the exact reason
Adam and I are so adamant
about identifying the spirits
responsible for a haunt.
Their name helps us
tell their story
and in a way,
makes them human again.
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