Kindred Spirits (2016–…): Season 2, Episode 7 - The Neighbor - full transcript
Amy and Adam investigate two homes afflicted by the same entity; a cache of haunted objects is key to solving the mystery. The duo call in haunted object experts Greg and Dana Newkirk, who help them make a startling discovery.
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Berry: IS THERE ANYONE
HERE WITH US?
♪♪
Bruni: ADAM,
SOMETHING JUST TOUCHED ME.
WHAT?
I JUST SEE THIS
TALL, DARK,
JUST SHADOW JUST,
LIKE, STANDING THERE.
AND THEY HEARD SOMEBODY
WHISPER, "HELLO."
I WALKED INTO THAT
MASTER BEDROOM,
AND I FELT LIKE
I WAS BEING WATCHED.
Bruni:
WAIT A MINUTE.
I SAW SOMETHING.
OH, MY GOD.
[ DOOR CREAKS ]
Bruni:
I'M AMY BRUNI.
I WAS ONLY 8
WHEN A PARANORMAL INCIDENT
CHANGED MY LIFE FOREVER.
[ GIRL LAUGHS ]
SINCE THEN,
I'VE DEDICATED MY TIME
TO SOLVING THE MOST TERRIFYING
HAUNTINGS IMAGINABLE.
Berry: I'M ADAM BERRY.
MORE THAN A DECADE AGO,
AN ENCOUNTER AT GETTYSBURG
ROCKED MY BELIEFS
ABOUT THE SUPERNATURAL.
Bruni: TOGETHER,
WE UNCOVER THE TRUTH
- BEHIND THE UNEXPLAINABLE.
- OH.
OH, MY GOD.
NOW, WE ARE ON
OUR MOST IMPORTANT MISSION YET.
♪♪
HELPING FAMILIES
OVERCOME THEIR FEAR,
TAKE BACK THEIR HOMES,
AND RECLAIM THEIR LIVES.
BRUNI: Hey, Adam.
I just got a case in
Foxborough, Massachusetts,
and we need to get
out there right now.
♪♪
The homeowners,
Holly and Tom,
claim they've had activity
for quite a while.
Even more strange,
the clients' neighbor reports
seeing activity
going on in their house
from across the street.
But most importantly,
the reason Tom and Holly
called is their kids.
Something happened
in their bedroom
and it totally
freaked them out.
The activity is
increasing.
The family doesn't know
what to do
and they're terrified.
We need to get out there
and help them.
♪♪
Bruni: HERE WE ARE.
THIS IS IT.
TELL US.
WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND HERE?
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ACTION
THROUGHOUT ALL THE YEARS
THAT WE'VE BEEN HERE.
YEAH. SO, LITTLE BITS AT A TIME.
SO, WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1999.
Bruni: SO, WHAT HAPPENED
IN THIS ROOM?
SITTING IN THE LIVING ROOM,
WATCHING TV,
YOU CAN SEE SOMETHING.
BUT IT'S MORE
DOWN THE HALL.
AND EVERYONE IN THE FAMILY
SEES IT, HAS SEEN IT.
I'VE SEEN IT, HOLLY HAS SEEN IT,
AND MEGHAN HAS SEEN IT.
- AND MEGHAN IS YOUR DAUGHTER?
- YES.
- YES.
- OKAY.
SO, DOWN HERE IS WHERE WE SEE
A SHADOW GOING, YOU KNOW...
- COMING THIS WAY?
- YES.
HOW TALL, YOU THINK?
PROBABLY YOUR HEIGHT.
IS THERE ANY SOUNDS
ASSOCIATED WITH IT...
- NO.
- ...LIKE FOOTSTEPS?
HOW OFTEN DO YOU
SEE THE SHADOW?
ME, PERSONALLY, I'VE ONLY
SEEN IT ONCE OR TWICE.
- OKAY.
- BUT WE SWITCHED MY KIDS' ROOMS,
AND THAT'S WHEN
EVERYTHING WAS CRAZY.
SO, ONCE YOU STARTED MOVING
ITEMS AROUND THE ROOMS,
ACTIVITY STARTED PEAKING.
- EXACTLY.
- OKAY. OKAY.
MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS
THE STREET, CINDY,
SEES A SHADOW FIGURE
IN THIS WINDOW HERE,
IN JUST THIS WINDOW.
- OKAY.
SO, SHE'S SEEN THE FIGURE,
AND THE PLANT HASN'T BEEN HERE.
- CORRECT.
- OKAY.
Berry: WHATEVER'S HERE
SEEMS TO ROAM
THE WHOLE MAIN FLOOR
OF THE HOUSE.
IT DOESN'T SEEM SHY
AROUND THE FAMILY.
Bruni: SO, WHAT IS
THIS ROOM?
Tom: THIS IS A DEN
AND MY WORKOUT ROOM.
- RIGHT.
- OKAY.
SO, WHEN I'M DOWN HERE,
I FEEL THAT, LIKE,
"SOMEBODY IS WATCHING ME"
TYPE OF THING.
SO, I'M ALWAYS LOOKING
IN THIS DIRECTION.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S COMING
FROM HERE, IN THIS ROOM,
OR DOWN THAT HALL
IN THE BACK THERE.
SO -- AND THERE'S
NOTHING EVER THERE,
AND I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING.
I JUST FEEL IT.
YOU KNOW, I GET
THAT WEIRD FEELING.
AND THEN,
WHAT ELSE DOWN HERE?
MY SON MATTHEW'S ROOM
IS RIGHT THERE.
SO, MY DAUGHTER, MEGHAN,
AND MATTHEW ARE PLAYING A GAME
SITTING ON THE BED,
AND THEY HEARD SOMEBODY
OR SOMETHING COME IN
AND THEN WHISPER, "HELLO."
AND THEY BOTH HEARD IT.
- IN THERE?
- IN THERE, AT THE SAME TIME,
AND THEY TOOK OFF
UPSTAIRS.
THIS IS MATTHEW'S ROOM.
SO, THIS IS
MATTHEW'S ROOM. YES.
- OKAY.
- SO, AT THAT TIME,
WHEN THAT HAPPENED,
THE BED WAS ON THIS WALL.
AND SO, THERE WAS NOBODY OUTSIDE
ON THE PORCH OR ANYTHING?
NOT THAT WE KNOW OF,
NOTHING.
- OKAY.
- FOR SURE.
Berry: WHO DO YOU THINK
IS IN THE HOUSE?
I THINK IT COULD BE ONE
OF MY PARENTS.
REALLY? OKAY.
'CAUSE THEY BOTH
PASSED RIGHT AFTER.
OH, RIGHT AFTER
YOU MOVED IN HERE?
- YES.
- OKAY.
SO, MY MOTHER ESPECIALLY,
MY FATHER NOT SO MUCH.
BUT SHE PASSED
IN 2000.
Bruni: HAS ANY OF THE ACTIVITY
THAT YOU'VE ENCOUNTERED
IN THE HOUSE MADE YOU THINK
IT MIGHT BE YOUR MOM?
MY MOTHER AND I HAD A FALLING
OUT BEFORE SHE PASSED.
OKAY.
SO, I'M WONDERING
IF IT'S MY MOTHER.
- OKAY.
- I'M NOT QUITE SURE.
NORMALLY, ADAM AND I
WOULDN'T SUSPECT A FAMILY MEMBER
TO SCARE
THEIR OWN RELATIVE.
BUT IF THERE'S BAD BLOOD,
THE ACTIVITY COULD BE
HOLLY'S MOTHER REACHING OUT
TO RESOLVE THINGS.
MY MOTHER WAS ROSALYN.
THAT GIVES US SOMETHING
TO GO ON TONIGHT,
SO WE CAN TRY TO REACH OUT
TO THEM, TOO, AS WE INVESTIGATE.
RIGHT.
I WOULD LOVE TO
JUST KNOW WHO IT IS
AND IF THEY'RE
OKAY WITH US.
♪♪
EVERYONE IN THIS FAMILY
HAS SEEN THE SHADOW FIGURE,
BUT LATELY,
THE ACTIVITY HAS SPIKED,
AND TOM AND HOLLY ARE WORRIED
ABOUT THE VOICE THE KIDS HEARD.
WE'RE SITTING THEM
DOWN SEPARATELY
AND GETTING THEIR SIDES
OF THE STORY.
Berry: THANKS FOR MEETING
WITH ME TODAY, MATTHEW.
NO PROBLEM.
TELL ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE
WHEN YOU GUYS HEARD A VOICE.
TAKE ME THROUGH
THAT WHOLE THING.
SO, IT WAS
A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
ME AND MY SISTER WERE
DOWNSTAIRS IN MY BEDROOM.
WE WERE PLAYING A GAME,
SITTING ON THE BED.
WE HEARD SOMETHING
AT THE SAME TIME.
OKAY.
WE HEARD A "HELLO," BUT WE
JUST THOUGHT IT WAS MY MOTHER,
AND WE JUST KEPT
GOING WITH THE GAME,
AND WE JUST KEPT PLAYING.
AND THEN, LIKE, 30 SECONDS LATER
PROBABLY,
WE HEARD IT REALLY LOUD.
IT WAS IN
MY RIGHT EAR.
OKAY.
SO, WE JUST BOLTED
AND RAN UPSTAIRS.
Matthew: A BUNCH OF STUFF
WENT THROUGH MY MIND,
"WHAT WAS IT?
DID I ACTUALLY HEAR IT?
WAS IT A GHOST? WAS IT..." --
STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO...
- OKAY.
Meghan: I JUST DON'T EVEN LIKE
GOING DOWN THERE.
IT'S REALLY SCARY,
AND IT FEELS LIKE
YOU'RE BEING WATCHED,
LIKE, 24/7.
WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING UP THE
STAIRS, YOU JUST KIND OF BOLT UP
'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO
LOOK BEHIND YOU AND STUFF.
RIGHT.
AND, I MEAN,
DO YOU FEEL SAFE?
IT JUST ALWAYS FEELS LIKE
EVERYWHERE IN THE HOUSE
YOU'RE BEING WATCHED.
IT JUST ALWAYS FEELS LIKE YOU'RE
BEING WATCHED BY SOMETHING.
AND IF I'M JUST LOOKING,
WATCHING TV,
I JUST SEE THIS TALL, DARK,
JUST SHADOW JUST, LIKE,
STANDING THERE HALFWAY
IN BETWEEN THE ENTRYWAY
AND THE LIVING ROOM.
SO, IT'S ACTUALLY JUST
STANDING THERE WHEN YOU SEE IT?
YEAH.
IT'S NOT MOVING.
IT WAS A MALE, TOO.
IT WAS, LIKE, A MALE BODY SHAPE.
OKAY. SO, YOU COULD SEE
IT LOOKS LIKE A MAN.
BUT YOU HEARD
A FEMALE VOICE DOWNSTAIRS.
YEAH.
IT'S INTERESTING
THAT SHE SEES A MALE,
BUT SHE HEARD
A FEMALE VOICE.
IT MAKES ME WONDER IF WE'RE
DEALING WITH MULTIPLE ENTITIES.
AND HOW OFTEN
DOES IT HAPPEN?
PROBABLY THREE TIMES A WEEK.
IT HAPPENS REALLY OFTEN.
REALLY?
♪♪
MEGHAN SEES THIS DARK,
LOOMING SHADOW ALL THE TIME,
AND SHE'S CONSTANTLY,
LIKE, ASKING HER FAMILY,
"DO YOU SEE IT? DO YOU SEE IT?
DO YOU SEE IT?"
I MEAN, NO ONE WANTS
TO LOOK OVER
AND SEE THIS
DARK SHADOW MAN
STANDING IN THE HALLWAY
STARING AT THEM.
THAT MAKES THE FAMILY ROOM,
WHERE SHE SAYS
SHE'S BEING WATCHED,
OUR FIRST PRIORITY.
♪♪
WE'RE USING THE DVR CAMERAS
TO TRY TO PICK UP
ON THIS DARK FIGURE
SHE SEES SO OFTEN.
- SO, AMY...
- YES?
Berry:...I'M GONNA PUT
THIS CAMERA HERE...
- LET ME SEE.
- ...SO THAT WE GET --
'CAUSE THEY'RE
SITTING HERE, RIGHT,
AND THEY SEE THAT
SHADOW DOWN THERE?
- YEAH.
- COOL.
♪♪
SO, THEY SIT HERE.
SO, THESE ARE USUALLY CLOSED,
HE SAID,
AND THOSE
ARE USUALLY CLOSED.
DO YOU WANT
TO SHUT THEM?
BECAUSE, I MEAN,
WE AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME,
MAYBE, IT'S A CAR.
YEAH.
CARS GO THIS WAY.
SO, THE HEADLIGHTS
WOULD GO THIS WAY
BECAUSE THEY POINT --
THE HEADLIGHTS, FOR A SECOND,
POINT AT THIS HOUSE
THIS WAY.
YEAH, BUT THAT DOESN'T CAST
ANY LIGHT
TO THE BACK
OF THAT HALLWAY.
OKAY. HOLD ON.
IT WOULD BE DARK.
IT WOULD BE PITCH DARK
DOWN THERE,
AND THEY'RE, LIKE,
SITTING HERE LIKE THIS.
WATCHING TV.
MY PERIPHERAL, LIKE,
I DEFINITELY SEE THAT
SITTING HERE,
LOOKING AT THE TV.
I DEFINITELY SEE
THAT WHOLE AREA.
SO, WHATEVER IT IS
HAS GOT TO BE...
- BIG.
- YEAH.
HELLO.
WHOEVER IS IN THIS HOUSE...
...YOU CAN COME JOIN US
IN THIS AREA.
MY NAME'S AMY.
I'M ADAM.
HOLLY AND TOM INVITED US
INTO THE HOME TO TALK TO YOU.
THEY KNOW THAT WE CAN
COMMUNICATE WITH YOU,
SO THEY ASKED US
TO COME HERE.
UM, DID YOU SEE THAT?
♪♪
UM, DID YOU SEE THAT?
♪♪
RIGHT THERE ON THE DOORFRAME --
THE DOOR, LIKE,
INTO THE MASTER BEDROOM.
I'M GONNA SHOW YOU.
♪♪
I MEAN, I WOULD
DEFINITELY SEE THAT.
DO IT AGAIN.
YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S FAST,
BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY SEE IT.
I WALKED INTO THAT
MASTER BEDROOM,
AND I FELT LIKE
I WAS BEING WATCHED.
- REALLY?
-100%.
I WALKED IN THERE,
AND I WAS LIKE,
"THERE IS SOMETHING
ELSE IN THIS ROOM."
SHOULD WE MOVE
INTO THERE?
DO YOU FEEL LIKE
SOMETHING'S IN THERE?
WE NEED TO GO
IN THAT ROOM.
♪♪
WHOEVER IS HERE,
THERE'S A GREEN LIGHT
ON THE END
OF THE BED HERE, OKAY?
YOU MAY BE ABLE TO REACH OUT,
GRAB ONTO THAT,
AND THAT GREEN LIGHT WILL GO
FROM GREEN TO YELLOW TO RED.
THEY SAY THAT, SOMETIMES,
WHEN THEY MOVE THINGS AROUND
YOU GET
A LITTLE AGITATED.
DOES IT BOTHER YOU?
IS THERE SOMETHING YOU
WANT DONE TO THE HOUSE
THAT THEY HAVEN'T
DONE YET?
LET'S LISTEN TO THIS.
[ UHNEXPLAINED STATIC NOISE ]
THAT'S SOMETHING.
[ UNEXPLAINED STATIC NOISE ]
"IT DOES"? I MEAN,
IT'S TWO SYLLABLES.
IT DOES.
IT SOUNDED LIKE, "IT DOES."
YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT I
FIRST THOUGHT.
- IT DOES.
- IT DOES.
IT DOES BOTHER THEM.
LET'S ASK
SOME MORE QUESTIONS.
HAVE YOU BEEN TRYING TO TALK
TO HOLLY AND THE KIDS?
THEY SAID THEY HEARD
YOU SAY, "HELLO."
DO YOU REMEMBER
SAYING THAT TO THEM?
THEY'RE NOT
TALKING ANYMORE.
WHOEVER IT IS SAID
IT DOES BOTHER THEM.
BUT, LIKE,
ANYONE CAN SAY THAT.
YEAH.
WE NEED TO FIND OUT
IF IT'S CONNECTED
TO THIS HOUSE
OR THE FAMILY.
♪♪
Bruni:
SOMETHING'S COMMUNICATING,
BUT THE "IT DOES" EVP
ISN'T HELPING US FIGURE OUT WHO.
I NEED TO ASK MORE
ABOUT HER MOM
AND THE PREVIOUS HOMEOWNERS.
NOW, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IN
THE HOUSE WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT,
ANYTHING WITH
THE FORMER HOMEOWNERS?
WELL, THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING
THAT'S DOWNSTAIRS.
CAN YOU TELL ME
ABOUT THAT?
THERE'S A BOARD IN THE BASEMENT
THAT WAS LEFT HERE
BY THE PREVIOUS
HOMEOWNERS.
IT'S A COLLAGE OF THEIR
PERSONAL PICTURES AND NOTES
AND OTHER STUFF
THAT LOOKS LIKE
IT'S RELATED TO
THEIR LIFE TOGETHER.
OKAY. YEAH. WELL, WE'LL TAKE
A LOOK AT THAT, FOR SURE.
SO, WHAT WAS YOUR RELATIONSHIP
LIKE WITH YOUR MOM?
IT WAS ESTRANGED.
SHE LEFT THE DAY
I TURNED 18.
- REALLY?
- I THINK THAT WAS HER PLAN.
DID YOU HAVE ANY INKLING
SHE WAS GOING TO DO THAT?
NO.
AND WAS YOUR MOM
A LOVING MOM?
NO.
- NO?
- NO.
- MNH-MNH?
- MNH-MNH.
AND SHE WAS IN A CAR ACCIDENT
IN HER 50S...
[ GASPS ]
...AND SO, WE NEVER GOT TO
REALLY SETTLE WHAT WE HAD.
OKAY.
IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU
WANTED TO SAY TO YOUR MOM,
WHAT WOULD IT BE?
YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT SHE COULD
HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME,
AND THE WEIRD THING WAS,
I WAS READY TO FORGIVE
BECAUSE I WAS PREGNANT
WITH MY SON.
AND I WAS GOING TO REACH OUT
TO HER AT CHRISTMAS,
BUT IT WAS DECEMBER 2ND
WHEN SHE PASSED.
MM.
SO, IF I WERE TO SAY ANYTHING,
I WOULD SAY TO HER,
YOU KNOW, "I FORGIVE."
SO, I'M HOPING THAT
SHE KNOWS THAT.
YOU ARE A STRONG WOMAN.
- YEAH. I THINK SO.
- YOU KNOW?
YEAH. THAT'S A LOT.
- I DO.
I GAVE HER THE RIGHT,
PROPER FUNERAL.
I DID THE RIGHT THING.
WHEN I WENT
TO HER APARTMENT,
THERE'S A FEW ITEMS
THAT I TOOK,
AND I CAN'T MOVE THEM.
SO, YOU CAN'T MOVE THEM.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
IF I DO, THEN,
I FEEL ACTIVITY.
REALLY?
WHAT IS IT?
IT'S JUST, LIKE, A LITTLE
DIAMOND PYRAMID.
OKAY.
♪♪
WE'VE FOUND MANY TIMES
DURING CASES LIKE THIS,
PEOPLE DON'T HAVE
GREAT RELATIONSHIPS IN LIFE.
BUT FOR SOME REASON,
AFTER DEATH,
THEY HAVE A MOMENT
TO REFLECT ON THAT,
BUT THEY NEVER GOT
TO ACTUALLY SEE
THAT RESOLUTION
COME TO FRUITION.
AND SO, THEY COME BACK,
AND THEY WANT TO MAKE AMENDS,
AND THEY WANT TO
MAKE IT RIGHT.
SO, I HAD A VERY LENGTHY
CONVERSATION WITH HOLLY TODAY,
AND I LEARNED
A LOT ABOUT HER,
AND SHE HAD A TERRIBLE
RELATIONSHIP WITH HER MOTHER.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS HERE
OF HER MOM'S.
MAINLY, THERE'S A PYRAMID
IN MEGHAN'S ROOM --
THIS LITTLE GLASS PYRAMID --
THAT SHE REFUSES
TO LET ANYBODY TOUCH
BECAUSE SHE SAYS,
WHEN THAT PYRAMID GETS MOVED,
ACTIVITY GOES CRAZY
IN THE HOUSE.
Berry: OKAY.
SO, WE'RE GONNA MOVE IT?
OF COURSE WE'RE
GONNA MOVE IT.
OKAY. GREAT.
♪♪
Bruni: ALL RIGHT. SO, WE'RE
GONNA DO THE SPIRIT BOX, RIGHT?
THE SPIRIT BOX SCANS
RADIO FREQUENCIES
AND ALLOWS ENTITIES
TO MANIPULATE THOSE FREQUENCIES.
WITH EVPS, WE HAVE TO WAIT
FOR A PLAYBACK
TO MAKE OUT
ANY MESSAGES.
THE SPIRIT BOX RESPONDS
IN REAL-TIME.
THE BLINDFOLD AND THE
NOISE-CANCELING HEADPHONES
MAKE SURE I CAN'T HEAR
ANY OF ADAM'S QUESTIONS.
I'LL GO INTO MATT'S ROOM, 'CAUSE
THEY HEARD THE VOICE IN THERE.
OKAY. I'M READY.
I'M GOING.
[ STATIC PLAYING ]
ALL RIGHT.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WITH US?
THE KIDS WERE PLAYING DOWN HERE
WHEN THEY HEARD A VOICE.
IS HOLLY'S MOM HERE?
ADAM,
SOMETHING JUST TOUCHED ME.
WHAT?
WHO'S TOUCHING AMY?
YOU CAN'T TOUCH AMY.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO,
OKAY?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND
WHAT I'M SAYING?
[ STATIC CONTINUES ]
CAN YOU TELL US
WHAT YOUR NAME IS?
ARE YOU RELATED
TO HOLLY?
Bruni: DO NOT...
WITHOUT...
WE MOVED
THAT PYRAMID.
THE FLOOR.
♪♪
Berry:
WE MOVED THAT PYRAMID.
THE FLOOR.
DO YOU WANT US TO MOVE
THE PYRAMID BACK?
AMY?
WHAT?
SO, I LEFT THAT ROOM AFTER
YOU SAID YOU GOT TOUCHED.
I CAME IN HERE...
- YEAH.
...BECAUSE I WANTED
TO KEEP AN EYE ON YOU.
I KEPT ASKING FOR A NAME.
I KEPT ASKING FOR A NAME.
NOTHING WAS MATCHING UP
EXCEPT FOR, YOU JUST KEPT
REFERENCING THE FLOOR, LIKE,
THE PYRAMID WAS ON THE FLOOR.
OH.
BUT NOTHING ELSE
SPECIFICALLY, LIKE,
MATCHED UP, EVER.
IT'S WEIRD BECAUSE,
WE GOT A RESPONSE
WHEN WE ASKED
ABOUT MOVING IT,
BUT NOTHING WHEN
WE ASKED ABOUT HER MOM.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GETTING
A LOT DOWN HERE.
LET'S GO BACK TO
THE MASTER BEDROOM,
WHERE WE GOT
RESPONSES LAST NIGHT.
♪♪
SO, WHOEVER IS HERE,
ARE YOU RELATED TO ANYONE
IN THIS HOUSE?
HOLLY THINKS YOU MIGHT
BE HER MOM.
YOU CAN TALK TO US.
THEY GAVE US FULL REIN OF
THE HOUSE WHILE THEY'RE GONE.
WE ARE WELCOME HERE.
WE WERE INVITED HERE.
[ UNEXPLAINED STATIC NOISE ]
WAIT.
GO BACK.
[ UNEXPLAINED STATIC NOISE ]
DID THAT SAY "CINDY"?
- YEAH. THAT SAYS "CINDY" SO LOUD.
- YES.
CLEAR AS DAY.
WHO'S CINDY?
THE NEIGHBOR.
[ GASPS ]
THAT'S A REALLY
CLEAR EVP.
YEAH. "CINDY."
THAT SOUNDS...
THAT'S THE CLEAREST
I'VE HEARD IT.
WHY WOULD HOLLY'S MOM
SAY "CINDY"?
WE NEED TO TALK TO HER.
♪♪
ALL RIGHT.
SO, CINDY,
THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR LETTING US
KIND OF BARGE
INTO YOUR HOUSE UNEXPECTEDLY.
OH, NO PROBLEM.
WE WERE TALKING WITH
HOLLY ACROSS THE STREET,
AND HOLLY HAS MENTIONED THAT YOU
HAD SOME EXPERIENCES FROM HERE.
YOU'VE ACTUALLY SEEN
SOMEONE IN THE WINDOW.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE THAT
FOR US?
YES. ACTUALLY, THE TALL THIN
WINDOW THAT IS STRAIGHT OVER
WITH THE LITTLE
ARCHWAY ON IT,
I'D LOOK OUT,
AND IT LOOKED LIKE
THERE WAS A FORM
STANDING IN THE WINDOW.
- OH, GEEZ.
- OH, GOD.
SO, IT JUST LOOKED
LIKE THE OUTLINE
OF A FIGURE
STANDING THERE,
LIKE, SOMEONE WAS TRYING TO GET
SOMEONE'S ATTENTION OVER THERE.
AND YOU COULD TELL
THEY WEREN'T HOME
BECAUSE THE LIGHTS
WERE OFF, YOU KNOW.
Berry: OKAY.
DIDN'T APPEAR
ANYBODY WAS THERE.
THE TV WASN'T ON OR ANYTHING
LIKE THAT, TO CREATE THAT.
- WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING.
- YEAH.
DO YOU KNOW IF
THE PREVIOUS HOMEOWNERS...?
YES. THERE WAS ACTUALLY
A COUPLE, STEVE AND PAT.
AND HOW LONG
DID YOU KNOW THEM?
PROBABLY SINCE THE MID '80S,
I KNEW THEM.
I WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL.
THEY MOVED IN SOMETIME
AROUND THERE.
WE FOUND THAT BOARD
THAT'S IN THE BASEMENT
WITH THE ALL THE SOUVENIRS
FROM THEIR TRIPS.
OH, YEAH.
THEY LOVED TO TRAVEL.
THEY TRAVELED ALL
OVER THE PLACE.
THEY MUST HAVE REALLY BEEN
IN LOVE WITH EACH OTHER.
OH, THEY WERE. YES.
THEY VERY MUCH WERE.
I WOULD GO
AND HELP THEM OUT.
A COUPLE YEARS AFTER THEY WERE
HERE, THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT
AND PAT ENDED UP
IN A WHEELCHAIR.
SO, SHE HAD LIMITED MOBILITY,
BUT SHE STILL GOT AROUND.
AND I'D GO OVER AND SHE'D
BE WEEDING THE GARDEN,
AND I'D GO PULL HER
OUT OF THE MUD.
NOW, IT SEEMS LIKE
YOU HAD
A REALLY SPECIAL
RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
YEAH. I HAVE SOME SOME THINGS
THAT BELONGED TO PAT
THAT SHE HAD LEFT ME
AFTER SHE PASSED AWAY.
WHAT DID SHE LEAVE YOU?
SHE ACTUALLY LEFT ME
HER ENGAGEMENT RING...
WOW.
...A HEART PENDANT,
AND A PAIR OF STUD EARRINGS.
- OKAY.
- OH.
THOSE ARE VERY
SPECIAL THINGS.
YEAH.
SHE DIDN'T HAVE A DAUGHTER.
SO, SHE KIND OF,
I GUESS, ADOPTED ME.
DO YOU KNOW HOW
THEY PASSED AWAY?
THEY FOUND
THAT SHE HAD MS.
SO, THAT JUST -- IT'S --
KIND OF STEMMED FROM THAT.
AND HE HAD A RECURRENCE
OF THE HODGKINS,
BUT THEY BOTH PASSED
AWAY IN THE HOUSE.
Bruni: THERE'S A LOT MORE
GOING ON IN THIS HOUSE
THAN WE
ORIGINALLY THOUGHT.
THE FORMER HOMEOWNERS,
PAT AND STEVE,
LIVED HERE FOR YEARS,
BUT THEY ALSO DIED HERE.
WE NEED TO STEP AWAY AND COME UP
WITH A NEW GAME PLAN.
SO, THIS CASE
IS PRETTY CRAZY.
IT'S DIFFERENT IN THE SENSE
THAT, THE PEOPLE
WE'RE DEALING WITH
HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING
THIS ACTIVITY IN THEIR HOUSE
FOR QUITE FOR SOME TIME.
AND TO HOLLY, ESPECIALLY,
SHE JUST KIND OF ASSUMED
IT WAS HER MOM
BECAUSE HER MOM DIED
RIGHT AROUND THE TIME
THEY BOTH THIS HOUSE.
SO, CINDY,
SHE'S SEEING ACTIVITY.
WE NEED TO, LIKE,
GET IN THAT HOUSE
AND MONITOR
THAT SITUATION.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT
OF THINGS GOING ON.
WHAT I THINK IS INTERESTING
ABOUT THIS IS THAT,
WE BASICALLY HAVE
TWO LOCATIONS.
BUT ONE THING I THINK WE NEED
TO REALLY FOCUS ON IS THE STUFF.
I FEEL LIKE THE OBJECTS
HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE
A LARGE COLLAGE OF EVERYTHING
THE PREVIOUS HOMEOWNERS
EVER DID TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, AND THEN,
HERE'S CINDY,
WHO HAS SOME
OF THE BELONGINGS
OF THE FORMER OWNERS,
PAT AND STEVE.
SHE MIGHT NOT EVEN REALIZE
THERE COULD BE
SOME SORT OF ATTACHMENT
TO WHAT SHE HAS.
AND I'M BETTING
THAT TOM AND HOLLY
HAVE NO IDEA, EITHER, THAT ALL
THESE OBJECTS COULD BE INVOLVED.
WE NEED TO GET INTO
CINDY'S HOUSE.
LIKE, WE HAVE TO GET
INTO CINDY'S HOUSE
AND START MONITORING
THE OTHER HOUSE.
- WE NEED HELP.
- RIGHT.
[ LIGHT BUZZES ]
WE HAVE SOME FRIENDS
NAMED GREG AND DANA.
THEY'RE PERFECT
FOR THIS CASE.
THEY HAVE A COMBINED
35 YEARS EXPERIENCE
SPECIALIZING IN HAUNTED OBJECTS,
WHICH WE HAVE A LOT OF.
BUT GREG AND DANA
ARE ALSO SKILLED
PARANORMAL
INVESTIGATORS,
WHICH IS GOOD, BECAUSE
NOW, WE HAVE TWO LOCATIONS,
AND WE CAN'T BE
IN BOTH PLACES AT ONCE.
- WHAT'S GOING ON?
- WELL, A LOT.
BASICALLY, WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE
IS, WE HAVE TWO LOCATIONS.
YOU KNOW, THIS PLACE,
THERE ARE SOME OBJECTS
THAT WE FEEL LIKE
THE FORMER OWNERS
MIGHT BE VERY
ATTACHED TO.
AND THEN, WE BROUGHT
SOME OBJECTS FROM NEXT DOOR,
AS WELL, THAT WE THINK
THEY MIGHT BE ATTACHED TO.
SO, I THINK OUR HOPE
IS TO, MAYBE, SPLIT UP,
AND YOU GUYS
CAN STAY HERE
AND KEEP MONITORING
THESE OBJECTS
WHILE WE GO
ACROSS THE STREET.
BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY SEE
AN APPARITION IN THIS WINDOW.
AND THEN, AFTER THAT,
WE CAN ALL INVESTIGATE
TOGETHER DOWNSTAIRS
FOR A BIT.
ABSOLUTELY.
SO, THIS IS WHERE
THEY HAVE...
THEY'VE HAD ACTIVITY
DOWN HERE,
BUT THERE'S ALSO
THIS AMAZING BOARD.
I HAVE THESE OBJECTS,
WHICH IS A PAIR
OF EARRINGS IN HERE,
THE ENGAGEMENT RING,
AND THE NECKLACE.
SO, YOU GUYS CAN USE
THESE, FOR SURE.
WONDERFUL.
Dana:
WE BROUGHT THE DARK MIRROR,
WHICH CHARGES UP
THE ENERGY IN A PLACE,
AND A LOT OF MANIFESTATIONS
TEND TO HAPPEN
AROUND THE MIRROR ITSELF.
- YEAH. OKAY.
- AWESOME.
WHEN WE INVESTIGATE A HOUSE,
WE ARE IN THAT HOUSE.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE
EVER GONE TO ANOTHER LOCATION
TO DO A GHOST
STAKEOUT ON A HOME.
HOPEFULLY, GREG AND DANA
INVESTIGATING AROUND THE ITEMS
WILL HELP STIR UP
WHATEVER IS HERE.
AND WE GET TO TRY
TO EXPERIENCE
WHAT CINDY HAS SEEN
FROM ACROSS THE STREET.
SO, FROM HERE, I MEAN,
I SEE GREG AND DANA
WALKING AROUND.
- YEAH. YOU CAN --
- SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE --
YOU WOULD BE ABLE
TO SEE SOMEBODY.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE OF THEM
WALK IN FRONT OF THAT WINDOW,
AND THEN WE COULD SEE
WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
CAN ONE OF YOU GUYS
WALK UPSTAIRS
and get in front of that
window that we're looking at?
DANA: Do you want me to go,
or do you want...
GREG: Dana will go.
All right.
I'm here.
SHE'S IN THE WINDOW NOW?
ARE YOU IN THE WINDOW
RIGHT NOW?
- I'M IN THE WINDOW.
- OH, THERE SHE IS.
CAN YOU WALK IN FRONT OF THE
WINDOW FROM YOUR LEFT TO RIGHT?
YOU GOT IT.
♪♪
GO BACK.
And go back.
OKAY. I SEE THAT.
- MM-HMM. OKAY.
DO WE LET HER GO BACK
TO HER INVESTIGATION?
YEAH.
LET HER GO.
ALL RIGHT.
YOU CAN GO BACK DOWNSTAIRS.
THANKS SO MUCH, DANA.
NO PROBLEM.
OKAY.
I'M GONNA START
WITH A SESSION.
MM-HMM.
IF THERE'S ANYONE
IN THIS BASEMENT WITH US,
WE'D REALLY APPRECIATE IT
IF YOU'D COME DOWN
AND SAY, "HELLO."
WE'VE HEARD THAT YOU MIGHT
NOT HAVE LIKED THE FACT
THAT THIS MURAL WAS REMOVED.
IS THAT TRUE?
- PLAY IT BACK.
- CALL THAT GOOD?
MM-HMM.
[ TAPE RECORDER CLICKS ]
Bruni: I KNOW THAT, LIKE, CINDY
DOESN'T SEE IT ALL THE TIME,
BUT THE REALITY IS,
IS WE ARE RILING THINGS UP
OVER THERE RIGHT NOW, 'CAUSE NOT
ONLY HAVE WE BEEN INVESTIGATING,
BUT NOW, WE JUST BROUGHT
GREG AND DANA HERE.
IT LITERALLY LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE
IS STANDING IN THAT WINDOW.
WAIT A MINUTE.
IS ANYBODY UP THERE?
Tom: If there's anyone
in this basement with us,
we'd really appreciate it
if you'd come down
and say, "Hello."
- [ GASPS ]
- "PUT IT BACK."
OH, MY GOD.
♪♪
Bruni: ADAM AND I
NORMALLY INVESTIGATE
A HOME'S ACTIVITY
FROM THE INSIDE.
IT'S NOT OFTEN WE'RE
INVESTIGATING A CLAIM
THAT SPIRITS CAN BE SEEN
FROM ANOTHER HOUSE.
THE ACTIVITY JUST PICKED UP
ON THE TOP FLOOR
THE EXACT TIME
GREG AND DANA
STARTING GETTING SOME
RESPONSES IN THE BASEMENT.
- [ GASPS ]
- "PUT IT BACK."
OH, MY GOD.
IT'S WEIRD BECAUSE, IT LITERALLY
LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE's
STANDING IN THAT WINDOW.
IS ANYBODY UPSTAIRS?
Dana: Nope.
No one's up there.
I ABSOLUTELY,
100%,
SAW SOMEBODY WALK
IN FRONT OF THAT WINDOW.
- THAT'S WEIRD.
- THAT'S VERY WEIRD.
OKAY.
LET'S GO BACK OVER THERE.
Bruni: IT WAS A CRAZY EXPERIENCE
TO ACTUALLY SEE WHAT CINDY SEES.
I REALLY THINK
US BEING HERE
IS TRIGGERING SOMETHING
TO COME OUT,
AND TO ACTUALLY SEE IT
IS PRETTY COMPELLING.
I SAW, DISTINCTLY, SOMEONE MOVE
ACROSS THE WINDOWS UPSTAIRS,
AND I SAY DISTINCTLY, "OH,
SHE'S STILL UP THERE, RIGHT?"
I'M LIKE, "WAIT,
ISN'T SHE STILL UP THERE?"
AND THAT'S WHEN
I WALKIED OVER,
YOU ARE NOT UP HERE.
- MNH-MNH.
- NO.
SO, WHAT HAPPENED?
I WANT TO PLAY
WHAT WE GOT,
AND I DON'T WANT TO
TELL YOU WHAT WE HEARD.
OH, RIGHT THERE.
"PUT IT BACK."
- YEAH, "PUT IT BACK."
- "PUT IT BACK."
- MM-HMM.
- IT IS REALLY QUIET.
LET'S ASK SOME
MORE QUESTIONS.
ARE YOU CONCERNED
THAT THEY ARE
GOING TO DESTROY
THIS ART PIECE?
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
IF YOU HAVE A MESSAGE.
IS THAT THE CASE?
ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE CHANGES
THEY'VE MADE TO THE HOUSE?
DO THE CHANGES
BOTHER YOU?
LET'S LISTEN AND SEE
IF THERE'S ANYTHING.
- OH, MY GOD.
- IT SOUNDED LIKE...
WHAT DOES IT SAY?
- "NO WAY."
- I COULD HEAR THAT. YEAH.
I DON'T THINK --
YEAH, THEY KNOW.
IT DEFINITELY APPEARS THEY DON'T
LIKE WHEN THINGS GET MOVED.
BUT THIS "NO WAY" EVP SEEMS LIKE
THEY'RE NOT ANGRY
AND TRUST HOLLY AND TOM
WILL KEEP THEIR MURAL IN PLACE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK
IS GOING ON HERE?
IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE
VERY READY TO TALK.
I THINK WHAT THEY DIDN'T
HAVE ARE PEOPLE
WHO ARE LISTENING
VERY INTENTLY BEFORE.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU,
GUYS, AND WE'LL -- YEAH.
WE'LL LET YOU KNOW
HOW EVERYTHING TURNS OUT.
PLEASE DO.
I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR IT.
YES, PLEASE.
♪♪
I THINK HER MOM IS NOT HERE.
I MEAN...
NO. I DON'T. I HAVEN'T --
I MEAN, WE'VE GOTTEN NOTHING.
I JUST REALLY WANTED TO GIVE
HOLLY AN ANSWER.
I MEAN, IF PAT AND STEVE
ARE HERE,
THEN I THINK WE NEED TO GET
CINDY OVER HERE.
YEAH.
GET MORE ANSWERS.
YEAH.
SO LET'S DO THAT.
LET'S JUST SEE IF SHE'LL COME
OVER AND INVESTIGATE WITH US.
Berry: WE GOT AN EVP ABOUT
THE FORMER HOMEOWNERS,
PAT AND STEVE'S, TRAVEL BOARD.
BUT THAT'S ONLY ONE EVP.
MEGHAN SEES
A MALE SHADOW FIGURE,
AND BOTH THE KIDS
HEARD A FEMALE VOICE.
COULD BOTH PAT
AND STEVE BE HERE?
OR IS SOMEONE
ELSE HERE?
WE CAN'T RULE
ANYTHING OUT.
VERY EARLY ON
IN THIS INVESTIGATION,
WE'RE GETTING
RESPONSES TO CINDY.
WE'RE GETTING CINDY'S NAME.
SO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BRING
CINDY INTO THIS INVESTIGATION.
WE NEED TO SEE IF
WHOEVER'S HERE
IS GONNA REACT TO
WHEN WE BRING HER IN.
LET'S GRAB
SOME EQUIPMENT.
♪♪
SO, LET'S DO THIS.
WHAT THIS IS, IS IT'S
A PROXIMITY SENSOR.
THE PROXIMITY SENSOR GIVES OFF
AN ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD
AROUND OBJECTS
IT'S ATTACHED TO.
IF ANYTHING THAT CONDUCTS
ELECTRICITY DISTURBS THAT FIELD,
AN ALARM SOUNDS
TO LET US KNOW.
LITERALLY, IF I GET CLOSE IT,
THIS IS NOW A CONDUCTOR.
SO, I FEEL, LIKE...
- OH.
IF ANYONE REACHES OUT
TO TOUCH IT...
YEAH.
THE ALARM GOES OFF.
IT'S PRETTY HANDY.
I MEAN, I GUESS, MAYBE, YOU CAN
HELP US FIGURE OUT IF WHY.
I MEAN, LIKE, WHY.
DO THEY LIKE THE CHANGES?
DO THEY LIKE
THE THINGS?
QUESTION -- HOW TALL WAS STEVE,
WOULD YOU SAY?
WAS HE A TALL MAN?
HE WAS, ACTUALLY, PROBABLY
AROUND ADAM'S HEIGHT.
HOW TALL, YOU THINK?
Tom: PROBABLY YOUR HEIGHT.
ALL RIGHT.
I KNOW.
- WHAT?
- YOU AND ME OUT OF HERE.
OH.
♪♪
HEY, PAT, STEVE.
IT'S JUST ME NOW.
CAN YOU TALK TO ME?
IF YOU TALK INTO
THIS RECORDER DOWN HERE,
THEY'LL HEAR YOU, AND THEN I'LL
BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU.
AND I PROMISE I'LL NEVER,
NEVER EVER GET RID
OF YOUR WONDERFUL
GIFTS TO ME.
ANYTHING YOU WANT
TO TELL ME?
ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO LISTEN
AND SEE WHAT SHE GOT.
♪♪
OKAY.
- WHAT WAS THAT? OH, MY GOD.
- WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
LET IT FINISH.
SOMETHING ABOUT
THE BED.
IS IT,
"THEY'RE ON THE BED?"
- YEAH.
- YEAH.
THAT'S,
"THEY'RE ON THE BED."
YEAH.
THEY'RE ON THE BED.
THEY'RE ON THE BED.
[ PROXIMITY SENSOR BEEPS ]
SOMETHING'S TOUCHING THAT.
[ PROXIMITY SENSOR BEEPS ]
SOMETHING ABOUT THE BED.
IS IT,
"THEY'RE ON THE BED?"
- YEAH.
- YEAH.
- THAT'S, "THEY'RE ON THE BED."
- YEAH. THEY'RE ON THE BED.
THEY'RE ON THE BED.
[ PROXIMITY SENSOR BEEPS ]
SOMETHING'S TOUCHING THAT.
[ PROXIMITY SENSOR BEEPS ]
Berry:
SHUT YOUR MOUTH.
YES. IT'S ON THE BED, YOU GUYS.
IT'S FUNNY THAT...
IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY'RE
POINTING IT OUT TO EACH O--
[ PROXIMITY SENSOR BEEPS ]
WHO'S TOUCHING IT?
IS IT PAT?
"PAT."
"PAT."
IT SAYS "PAT."
- YEAH.
- MM-HMM.
I KIND OF WANT TO ASK A COUPLE
MORE THINGS AT STEVE.
ME, TOO.
THESE ITEMS THAT YOU
GAVE TO CINDY, PAT,
SHE STILL HOLDS ON
TO THEM.
DO YOU LIKE THAT?
Cindy: ANYTHING YOU WANT
TO TELL ME?
HAPPY TO LISTEN.
IS THERE A REASON
WHY YOU'RE STILL HERE?
LET'S LISTEN
TO THE RECORDER.
IT'S QUIET.
I MEAN, WE KNOW
WHY THEY'RE HERE.
THEY'RE HERE BECAUSE
THIS WAS THEIR HOME.
THEY HAVE A CONNECTION
TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD,
A CONNECTION TO CINDY.
DOES THAT SOUND
LIKE THEM TO YOU?
I BELIEVE IT'S THEM.
THANK YOU
SO MUCH, CINDY.
OH, NO. I'M GLAD.
I'M GLAD IT HELPED, YOU KNOW,
BRING THEM OUT.
IT WAS GREAT
TO HAVE YOU HERE.
OH, THANK YOU.
Berry: NORMALLY, WE JUST WRAP
THINGS UP FOR OUR CLIENTS,
BUT IN THIS CASE,
WE GAVE CINDY --
A FRIEND OF THE
FORMER HOMEOWNERS --
A BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE.
PAT AND STEVE ARE STILL HERE
AND REMEMBER HER.
NOW, WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT
THE REST OF THE EVIDENCE
TO TOM AND HOLLY.
Berry: HOW ARE YOU GUYS
FEELING RIGHT NOW?
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?
Holly:
I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW.
WE DEFINITELY -- WE TRIED
TO REACH OUT TO YOUR MOM,
AND WE TRIED TIME
AND TIME AGAIN.
WE JUST HAMMERED DOWN AND JUST
TRIED TO GET HER TO TALK TO US.
YOU KNOW, I REALLY
WANTED TO GET A --
I WAS JUST DESPERATE TO GET
A MESSAGE FROM HER,
SOMETHING FOR YOU,
AND IT WAS JUST REALLY HARD
FOR ME TO BE DONE INVESTIGATING
AND JUST NOT GET ANYTHING.
I JUST DON'T -- I WANT YOU TO
KNOW THAT WE TRIED REALLY HARD.
OH, THAT'S OKAY.
- YEAH.
- YEAH.
WELL, ONE OF THE FIRST
THINGS THAT HAPPENED TO US,
WE SETTLED, YOU KNOW,
IN THIS LIVING ROOM
BECAUSE WE WANTED
TO FIGURE OUT THE SHADOW
THAT YOU GUYS SEE
AT THE END OF THE HALLWAY.
MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I SAW
WHAT APPEARED TO BE SOMETHING
THAT BLOCKED OUT
THE DOORFRAME.
SO, WE WERE STARING DOWN
AT THE HALLWAY,
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN,
THIS THING WAS LIKE BLOOP
AND WENT AWAY
REALLY QUICKLY.
SO, WE KEEP GOING,
AND WE'RE LIKE, "OKAY.
WELL, MAYBE
SOMETHING IS HERE."
SO, THIS WAS
IN YOUR BEDROOM.
- IT IS "CINDY."
- YEAH.
THAT WAS WHEN WE DECIDED
TO BRING CINDY
INTO THE INVESTIGATION.
WHAT WAS INTERESTING WAS,
WHEN WE BROUGHT HER
INTO THE INVESTIGATION,
AND THAT'S WHEN
THEY STARTED TALKING.
AUTOMATICALLY, WE ASSUMED,
"OKAY, WE'RE PROBABLY DEALING
WITH PAT AND STEVE
AT THIS POINT."
BUT MEGHAN SEES
THE MAN'S SHADOW.
WELL, WE ASKED CINDY,
AND WE SAID, YOU KNOW,
"HOW TALL WAS STEVE?"
AND SHE SAID, "STEVE WAS ABOUT
EXACTLY ADAM'S HEIGHT."
Berry: WHICH IS THE
SHADOW HEIGHT THAT YOU GUYS SEE.
YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT
MEGHAN DESCRIBED.
OH, SHE DID.
AND SO, THE NEXT ONE
IS, I ASK, YOU KNOW,
"WHEN THEY
MOVE THINGS AROUND,
DOES THAT AGITATE
YOU A LITTLE BIT?"
OH, OKAY.
- OH, YEAH.
- "IT DOES."
- YES.
- "IT DOES."
- "IT DOES."
- THEY'RE JUST BEING HONEST.
- MM-HMM.
OBVIOUSLY, WE KNOW PAT AND STEVE
ARE REALLY NICE PEOPLE
FROM EVERYTHING
WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THEM.
BUT I COULD SEE THEM
GETTING A LITTLE NERVOUS
WHEN YOU START REALLY
CHANGING THE HOUSE AROUND.
I MEAN, WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME
WHEN CONSTRUCTION HAPPENS
OR WHEN PEOPLE
CHANGE THE SCENERY
OR PUT WALLS
WHERE DOORS WERE,
THAT THE ACTIVITY
PICKS UP.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY
A BAD THING, IT'S JUST,
YOU KNOW, IT DOES --
IT CONFUSES THEM.
- RIGHT.
- IT'S SOMETHING THAT OCCURS.
I'M GONNA PLAY
THIS FOR YOU.
THEY WERE TALKING
ABOUT THE COLLAGE.
- THE BOARD?
- YEAH.
AND HE ASKS,
"ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT
THEY'RE GONNA
DESTROY THIS?"
- "NO WAY."
- "NO WAY."
WHICH SPEAKS VOLUMES
TO THE LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE
THAT THEY HAVE
IN YOU GUYS.
I MEAN...
YOU CAN HANG IT BACK UP.
YOU CAN DO WHATEVER
YOU WANT WITH IT.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE NOT
GONNA GET RID OF IT.
AND I MEAN, I THINK
THAT THEY KNOW
THAT YOU WOULD
NEVER DO THAT.
- YES.
- YOU KNOW?
IT ALSO CONFIRMS THAT,
YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH
THEY MIGHT GET A LITTLE CONFUSED
BY THE RENOVATIONS,
THAT THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED THAT
YOU'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING
THAT'S GONNA TOTALLY
AFFECT THEM, IN A WAY, YOU KNOW?
WELL,
THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
I MEAN,
I THINK WE AGREE.
WE JUST DON'T THINK THEY WANT
TO GO ANYWHERE, YOU KNOW?
THIS WAS -- THEY ENJOY IT HERE.
- THIS IS THEIR HOME.
THEY'RE JUST HAPPY HERE,
LIKE YOU'RE HAPPY HERE.
- AND I WANT THEM TO BE HAPPY.
- YEAH.
IN EVERY SENSE
OF THE WORD,
WE GOT A WELCOMING FEELING
FROM THEM.
Holly: YOU DID?
I MEAN, YES. THERE'S, LIKE,
THE MOMENT WHERE YOU'RE LIKE,
"OH, I THINK SOMEBODY
IS WATCHING ME."
AND THAT CAN ALWAYS
MAKE YOU UNEASY,
BUT REALLY, WHEN THINK
ABOUT WHO IT IS,
IT'S, LIKE, THEY'RE JUST
CHECKING ON YOU.
I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONCERN
THAT, MAYBE, IT WOULD ESCALATE,
ESPECIALLY WITH THE MORE WORK
YOU DO IN THE HOUSE
AND EVERYTHING,
AND IT COULD,
BUT I THINK, NOW THAT
YOU KNOW WHO IT IS,
NOW YOU CAN JUST CALL OUT TO
THEM BY NAME, TALK TO THEM...
RIGHT. RIGHT.
...LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
GONNA BEFORE YOU DO IT.
WELL, I'M GLAD THAT --
IT'S GLAD TO FINALLY KNOW
WHO IT IS.
- AWESOME.
- THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.
- GREAT.
- IT'S SO RELIEVING TO KNOW
THEY'RE OKAY WITH US HERE.
- IT IS PRETTY COOL.
THIS IS JUST ONE OF
THOSE CASES THAT, REALLY,
IT DOES HAVE
A HAPPY ENDING.
HOLLY DIDN'T GET A DIRECT
MESSAGE FROM HER MOM,
BUT SHE WAS STILL GIVEN
A SENSE OF PEACE.
THERE'S A LOT OF LOVE HERE,
AND THE FACT THAT THEY CAN MAKE
PAT AND STEVE STILL FEEL
THIS WELCOME IN THEIR HOME
EVEN AFTER
THEY'VE PASSED AWAY --
I THINK TOO OFTEN PEOPLE WANT
TO GET RID OF THEIR GHOSTS.
BUT ONCE YOU REALIZE THEY'RE
HERE FOR THE SAME REASONS
YOU ARE, YOU KNOW,
IT'S AMAZING.
YOU DON'T SEE
THAT VERY OFTEN.
---
Berry: IS THERE ANYONE
HERE WITH US?
♪♪
Bruni: ADAM,
SOMETHING JUST TOUCHED ME.
WHAT?
I JUST SEE THIS
TALL, DARK,
JUST SHADOW JUST,
LIKE, STANDING THERE.
AND THEY HEARD SOMEBODY
WHISPER, "HELLO."
I WALKED INTO THAT
MASTER BEDROOM,
AND I FELT LIKE
I WAS BEING WATCHED.
Bruni:
WAIT A MINUTE.
I SAW SOMETHING.
OH, MY GOD.
[ DOOR CREAKS ]
Bruni:
I'M AMY BRUNI.
I WAS ONLY 8
WHEN A PARANORMAL INCIDENT
CHANGED MY LIFE FOREVER.
[ GIRL LAUGHS ]
SINCE THEN,
I'VE DEDICATED MY TIME
TO SOLVING THE MOST TERRIFYING
HAUNTINGS IMAGINABLE.
Berry: I'M ADAM BERRY.
MORE THAN A DECADE AGO,
AN ENCOUNTER AT GETTYSBURG
ROCKED MY BELIEFS
ABOUT THE SUPERNATURAL.
Bruni: TOGETHER,
WE UNCOVER THE TRUTH
- BEHIND THE UNEXPLAINABLE.
- OH.
OH, MY GOD.
NOW, WE ARE ON
OUR MOST IMPORTANT MISSION YET.
♪♪
HELPING FAMILIES
OVERCOME THEIR FEAR,
TAKE BACK THEIR HOMES,
AND RECLAIM THEIR LIVES.
BRUNI: Hey, Adam.
I just got a case in
Foxborough, Massachusetts,
and we need to get
out there right now.
♪♪
The homeowners,
Holly and Tom,
claim they've had activity
for quite a while.
Even more strange,
the clients' neighbor reports
seeing activity
going on in their house
from across the street.
But most importantly,
the reason Tom and Holly
called is their kids.
Something happened
in their bedroom
and it totally
freaked them out.
The activity is
increasing.
The family doesn't know
what to do
and they're terrified.
We need to get out there
and help them.
♪♪
Bruni: HERE WE ARE.
THIS IS IT.
TELL US.
WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND HERE?
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ACTION
THROUGHOUT ALL THE YEARS
THAT WE'VE BEEN HERE.
YEAH. SO, LITTLE BITS AT A TIME.
SO, WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1999.
Bruni: SO, WHAT HAPPENED
IN THIS ROOM?
SITTING IN THE LIVING ROOM,
WATCHING TV,
YOU CAN SEE SOMETHING.
BUT IT'S MORE
DOWN THE HALL.
AND EVERYONE IN THE FAMILY
SEES IT, HAS SEEN IT.
I'VE SEEN IT, HOLLY HAS SEEN IT,
AND MEGHAN HAS SEEN IT.
- AND MEGHAN IS YOUR DAUGHTER?
- YES.
- YES.
- OKAY.
SO, DOWN HERE IS WHERE WE SEE
A SHADOW GOING, YOU KNOW...
- COMING THIS WAY?
- YES.
HOW TALL, YOU THINK?
PROBABLY YOUR HEIGHT.
IS THERE ANY SOUNDS
ASSOCIATED WITH IT...
- NO.
- ...LIKE FOOTSTEPS?
HOW OFTEN DO YOU
SEE THE SHADOW?
ME, PERSONALLY, I'VE ONLY
SEEN IT ONCE OR TWICE.
- OKAY.
- BUT WE SWITCHED MY KIDS' ROOMS,
AND THAT'S WHEN
EVERYTHING WAS CRAZY.
SO, ONCE YOU STARTED MOVING
ITEMS AROUND THE ROOMS,
ACTIVITY STARTED PEAKING.
- EXACTLY.
- OKAY. OKAY.
MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS
THE STREET, CINDY,
SEES A SHADOW FIGURE
IN THIS WINDOW HERE,
IN JUST THIS WINDOW.
- OKAY.
SO, SHE'S SEEN THE FIGURE,
AND THE PLANT HASN'T BEEN HERE.
- CORRECT.
- OKAY.
Berry: WHATEVER'S HERE
SEEMS TO ROAM
THE WHOLE MAIN FLOOR
OF THE HOUSE.
IT DOESN'T SEEM SHY
AROUND THE FAMILY.
Bruni: SO, WHAT IS
THIS ROOM?
Tom: THIS IS A DEN
AND MY WORKOUT ROOM.
- RIGHT.
- OKAY.
SO, WHEN I'M DOWN HERE,
I FEEL THAT, LIKE,
"SOMEBODY IS WATCHING ME"
TYPE OF THING.
SO, I'M ALWAYS LOOKING
IN THIS DIRECTION.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S COMING
FROM HERE, IN THIS ROOM,
OR DOWN THAT HALL
IN THE BACK THERE.
SO -- AND THERE'S
NOTHING EVER THERE,
AND I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING.
I JUST FEEL IT.
YOU KNOW, I GET
THAT WEIRD FEELING.
AND THEN,
WHAT ELSE DOWN HERE?
MY SON MATTHEW'S ROOM
IS RIGHT THERE.
SO, MY DAUGHTER, MEGHAN,
AND MATTHEW ARE PLAYING A GAME
SITTING ON THE BED,
AND THEY HEARD SOMEBODY
OR SOMETHING COME IN
AND THEN WHISPER, "HELLO."
AND THEY BOTH HEARD IT.
- IN THERE?
- IN THERE, AT THE SAME TIME,
AND THEY TOOK OFF
UPSTAIRS.
THIS IS MATTHEW'S ROOM.
SO, THIS IS
MATTHEW'S ROOM. YES.
- OKAY.
- SO, AT THAT TIME,
WHEN THAT HAPPENED,
THE BED WAS ON THIS WALL.
AND SO, THERE WAS NOBODY OUTSIDE
ON THE PORCH OR ANYTHING?
NOT THAT WE KNOW OF,
NOTHING.
- OKAY.
- FOR SURE.
Berry: WHO DO YOU THINK
IS IN THE HOUSE?
I THINK IT COULD BE ONE
OF MY PARENTS.
REALLY? OKAY.
'CAUSE THEY BOTH
PASSED RIGHT AFTER.
OH, RIGHT AFTER
YOU MOVED IN HERE?
- YES.
- OKAY.
SO, MY MOTHER ESPECIALLY,
MY FATHER NOT SO MUCH.
BUT SHE PASSED
IN 2000.
Bruni: HAS ANY OF THE ACTIVITY
THAT YOU'VE ENCOUNTERED
IN THE HOUSE MADE YOU THINK
IT MIGHT BE YOUR MOM?
MY MOTHER AND I HAD A FALLING
OUT BEFORE SHE PASSED.
OKAY.
SO, I'M WONDERING
IF IT'S MY MOTHER.
- OKAY.
- I'M NOT QUITE SURE.
NORMALLY, ADAM AND I
WOULDN'T SUSPECT A FAMILY MEMBER
TO SCARE
THEIR OWN RELATIVE.
BUT IF THERE'S BAD BLOOD,
THE ACTIVITY COULD BE
HOLLY'S MOTHER REACHING OUT
TO RESOLVE THINGS.
MY MOTHER WAS ROSALYN.
THAT GIVES US SOMETHING
TO GO ON TONIGHT,
SO WE CAN TRY TO REACH OUT
TO THEM, TOO, AS WE INVESTIGATE.
RIGHT.
I WOULD LOVE TO
JUST KNOW WHO IT IS
AND IF THEY'RE
OKAY WITH US.
♪♪
EVERYONE IN THIS FAMILY
HAS SEEN THE SHADOW FIGURE,
BUT LATELY,
THE ACTIVITY HAS SPIKED,
AND TOM AND HOLLY ARE WORRIED
ABOUT THE VOICE THE KIDS HEARD.
WE'RE SITTING THEM
DOWN SEPARATELY
AND GETTING THEIR SIDES
OF THE STORY.
Berry: THANKS FOR MEETING
WITH ME TODAY, MATTHEW.
NO PROBLEM.
TELL ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE
WHEN YOU GUYS HEARD A VOICE.
TAKE ME THROUGH
THAT WHOLE THING.
SO, IT WAS
A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
ME AND MY SISTER WERE
DOWNSTAIRS IN MY BEDROOM.
WE WERE PLAYING A GAME,
SITTING ON THE BED.
WE HEARD SOMETHING
AT THE SAME TIME.
OKAY.
WE HEARD A "HELLO," BUT WE
JUST THOUGHT IT WAS MY MOTHER,
AND WE JUST KEPT
GOING WITH THE GAME,
AND WE JUST KEPT PLAYING.
AND THEN, LIKE, 30 SECONDS LATER
PROBABLY,
WE HEARD IT REALLY LOUD.
IT WAS IN
MY RIGHT EAR.
OKAY.
SO, WE JUST BOLTED
AND RAN UPSTAIRS.
Matthew: A BUNCH OF STUFF
WENT THROUGH MY MIND,
"WHAT WAS IT?
DID I ACTUALLY HEAR IT?
WAS IT A GHOST? WAS IT..." --
STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO...
- OKAY.
Meghan: I JUST DON'T EVEN LIKE
GOING DOWN THERE.
IT'S REALLY SCARY,
AND IT FEELS LIKE
YOU'RE BEING WATCHED,
LIKE, 24/7.
WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING UP THE
STAIRS, YOU JUST KIND OF BOLT UP
'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO
LOOK BEHIND YOU AND STUFF.
RIGHT.
AND, I MEAN,
DO YOU FEEL SAFE?
IT JUST ALWAYS FEELS LIKE
EVERYWHERE IN THE HOUSE
YOU'RE BEING WATCHED.
IT JUST ALWAYS FEELS LIKE YOU'RE
BEING WATCHED BY SOMETHING.
AND IF I'M JUST LOOKING,
WATCHING TV,
I JUST SEE THIS TALL, DARK,
JUST SHADOW JUST, LIKE,
STANDING THERE HALFWAY
IN BETWEEN THE ENTRYWAY
AND THE LIVING ROOM.
SO, IT'S ACTUALLY JUST
STANDING THERE WHEN YOU SEE IT?
YEAH.
IT'S NOT MOVING.
IT WAS A MALE, TOO.
IT WAS, LIKE, A MALE BODY SHAPE.
OKAY. SO, YOU COULD SEE
IT LOOKS LIKE A MAN.
BUT YOU HEARD
A FEMALE VOICE DOWNSTAIRS.
YEAH.
IT'S INTERESTING
THAT SHE SEES A MALE,
BUT SHE HEARD
A FEMALE VOICE.
IT MAKES ME WONDER IF WE'RE
DEALING WITH MULTIPLE ENTITIES.
AND HOW OFTEN
DOES IT HAPPEN?
PROBABLY THREE TIMES A WEEK.
IT HAPPENS REALLY OFTEN.
REALLY?
♪♪
MEGHAN SEES THIS DARK,
LOOMING SHADOW ALL THE TIME,
AND SHE'S CONSTANTLY,
LIKE, ASKING HER FAMILY,
"DO YOU SEE IT? DO YOU SEE IT?
DO YOU SEE IT?"
I MEAN, NO ONE WANTS
TO LOOK OVER
AND SEE THIS
DARK SHADOW MAN
STANDING IN THE HALLWAY
STARING AT THEM.
THAT MAKES THE FAMILY ROOM,
WHERE SHE SAYS
SHE'S BEING WATCHED,
OUR FIRST PRIORITY.
♪♪
WE'RE USING THE DVR CAMERAS
TO TRY TO PICK UP
ON THIS DARK FIGURE
SHE SEES SO OFTEN.
- SO, AMY...
- YES?
Berry:...I'M GONNA PUT
THIS CAMERA HERE...
- LET ME SEE.
- ...SO THAT WE GET --
'CAUSE THEY'RE
SITTING HERE, RIGHT,
AND THEY SEE THAT
SHADOW DOWN THERE?
- YEAH.
- COOL.
♪♪
SO, THEY SIT HERE.
SO, THESE ARE USUALLY CLOSED,
HE SAID,
AND THOSE
ARE USUALLY CLOSED.
DO YOU WANT
TO SHUT THEM?
BECAUSE, I MEAN,
WE AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME,
MAYBE, IT'S A CAR.
YEAH.
CARS GO THIS WAY.
SO, THE HEADLIGHTS
WOULD GO THIS WAY
BECAUSE THEY POINT --
THE HEADLIGHTS, FOR A SECOND,
POINT AT THIS HOUSE
THIS WAY.
YEAH, BUT THAT DOESN'T CAST
ANY LIGHT
TO THE BACK
OF THAT HALLWAY.
OKAY. HOLD ON.
IT WOULD BE DARK.
IT WOULD BE PITCH DARK
DOWN THERE,
AND THEY'RE, LIKE,
SITTING HERE LIKE THIS.
WATCHING TV.
MY PERIPHERAL, LIKE,
I DEFINITELY SEE THAT
SITTING HERE,
LOOKING AT THE TV.
I DEFINITELY SEE
THAT WHOLE AREA.
SO, WHATEVER IT IS
HAS GOT TO BE...
- BIG.
- YEAH.
HELLO.
WHOEVER IS IN THIS HOUSE...
...YOU CAN COME JOIN US
IN THIS AREA.
MY NAME'S AMY.
I'M ADAM.
HOLLY AND TOM INVITED US
INTO THE HOME TO TALK TO YOU.
THEY KNOW THAT WE CAN
COMMUNICATE WITH YOU,
SO THEY ASKED US
TO COME HERE.
UM, DID YOU SEE THAT?
♪♪
UM, DID YOU SEE THAT?
♪♪
RIGHT THERE ON THE DOORFRAME --
THE DOOR, LIKE,
INTO THE MASTER BEDROOM.
I'M GONNA SHOW YOU.
♪♪
I MEAN, I WOULD
DEFINITELY SEE THAT.
DO IT AGAIN.
YEAH. I MEAN, IT'S FAST,
BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY SEE IT.
I WALKED INTO THAT
MASTER BEDROOM,
AND I FELT LIKE
I WAS BEING WATCHED.
- REALLY?
-100%.
I WALKED IN THERE,
AND I WAS LIKE,
"THERE IS SOMETHING
ELSE IN THIS ROOM."
SHOULD WE MOVE
INTO THERE?
DO YOU FEEL LIKE
SOMETHING'S IN THERE?
WE NEED TO GO
IN THAT ROOM.
♪♪
WHOEVER IS HERE,
THERE'S A GREEN LIGHT
ON THE END
OF THE BED HERE, OKAY?
YOU MAY BE ABLE TO REACH OUT,
GRAB ONTO THAT,
AND THAT GREEN LIGHT WILL GO
FROM GREEN TO YELLOW TO RED.
THEY SAY THAT, SOMETIMES,
WHEN THEY MOVE THINGS AROUND
YOU GET
A LITTLE AGITATED.
DOES IT BOTHER YOU?
IS THERE SOMETHING YOU
WANT DONE TO THE HOUSE
THAT THEY HAVEN'T
DONE YET?
LET'S LISTEN TO THIS.
[ UHNEXPLAINED STATIC NOISE ]
THAT'S SOMETHING.
[ UNEXPLAINED STATIC NOISE ]
"IT DOES"? I MEAN,
IT'S TWO SYLLABLES.
IT DOES.
IT SOUNDED LIKE, "IT DOES."
YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT I
FIRST THOUGHT.
- IT DOES.
- IT DOES.
IT DOES BOTHER THEM.
LET'S ASK
SOME MORE QUESTIONS.
HAVE YOU BEEN TRYING TO TALK
TO HOLLY AND THE KIDS?
THEY SAID THEY HEARD
YOU SAY, "HELLO."
DO YOU REMEMBER
SAYING THAT TO THEM?
THEY'RE NOT
TALKING ANYMORE.
WHOEVER IT IS SAID
IT DOES BOTHER THEM.
BUT, LIKE,
ANYONE CAN SAY THAT.
YEAH.
WE NEED TO FIND OUT
IF IT'S CONNECTED
TO THIS HOUSE
OR THE FAMILY.
♪♪
Bruni:
SOMETHING'S COMMUNICATING,
BUT THE "IT DOES" EVP
ISN'T HELPING US FIGURE OUT WHO.
I NEED TO ASK MORE
ABOUT HER MOM
AND THE PREVIOUS HOMEOWNERS.
NOW, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IN
THE HOUSE WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT,
ANYTHING WITH
THE FORMER HOMEOWNERS?
WELL, THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING
THAT'S DOWNSTAIRS.
CAN YOU TELL ME
ABOUT THAT?
THERE'S A BOARD IN THE BASEMENT
THAT WAS LEFT HERE
BY THE PREVIOUS
HOMEOWNERS.
IT'S A COLLAGE OF THEIR
PERSONAL PICTURES AND NOTES
AND OTHER STUFF
THAT LOOKS LIKE
IT'S RELATED TO
THEIR LIFE TOGETHER.
OKAY. YEAH. WELL, WE'LL TAKE
A LOOK AT THAT, FOR SURE.
SO, WHAT WAS YOUR RELATIONSHIP
LIKE WITH YOUR MOM?
IT WAS ESTRANGED.
SHE LEFT THE DAY
I TURNED 18.
- REALLY?
- I THINK THAT WAS HER PLAN.
DID YOU HAVE ANY INKLING
SHE WAS GOING TO DO THAT?
NO.
AND WAS YOUR MOM
A LOVING MOM?
NO.
- NO?
- NO.
- MNH-MNH?
- MNH-MNH.
AND SHE WAS IN A CAR ACCIDENT
IN HER 50S...
[ GASPS ]
...AND SO, WE NEVER GOT TO
REALLY SETTLE WHAT WE HAD.
OKAY.
IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU
WANTED TO SAY TO YOUR MOM,
WHAT WOULD IT BE?
YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT SHE COULD
HAVE REACHED OUT TO ME,
AND THE WEIRD THING WAS,
I WAS READY TO FORGIVE
BECAUSE I WAS PREGNANT
WITH MY SON.
AND I WAS GOING TO REACH OUT
TO HER AT CHRISTMAS,
BUT IT WAS DECEMBER 2ND
WHEN SHE PASSED.
MM.
SO, IF I WERE TO SAY ANYTHING,
I WOULD SAY TO HER,
YOU KNOW, "I FORGIVE."
SO, I'M HOPING THAT
SHE KNOWS THAT.
YOU ARE A STRONG WOMAN.
- YEAH. I THINK SO.
- YOU KNOW?
YEAH. THAT'S A LOT.
- I DO.
I GAVE HER THE RIGHT,
PROPER FUNERAL.
I DID THE RIGHT THING.
WHEN I WENT
TO HER APARTMENT,
THERE'S A FEW ITEMS
THAT I TOOK,
AND I CAN'T MOVE THEM.
SO, YOU CAN'T MOVE THEM.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
IF I DO, THEN,
I FEEL ACTIVITY.
REALLY?
WHAT IS IT?
IT'S JUST, LIKE, A LITTLE
DIAMOND PYRAMID.
OKAY.
♪♪
WE'VE FOUND MANY TIMES
DURING CASES LIKE THIS,
PEOPLE DON'T HAVE
GREAT RELATIONSHIPS IN LIFE.
BUT FOR SOME REASON,
AFTER DEATH,
THEY HAVE A MOMENT
TO REFLECT ON THAT,
BUT THEY NEVER GOT
TO ACTUALLY SEE
THAT RESOLUTION
COME TO FRUITION.
AND SO, THEY COME BACK,
AND THEY WANT TO MAKE AMENDS,
AND THEY WANT TO
MAKE IT RIGHT.
SO, I HAD A VERY LENGTHY
CONVERSATION WITH HOLLY TODAY,
AND I LEARNED
A LOT ABOUT HER,
AND SHE HAD A TERRIBLE
RELATIONSHIP WITH HER MOTHER.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS HERE
OF HER MOM'S.
MAINLY, THERE'S A PYRAMID
IN MEGHAN'S ROOM --
THIS LITTLE GLASS PYRAMID --
THAT SHE REFUSES
TO LET ANYBODY TOUCH
BECAUSE SHE SAYS,
WHEN THAT PYRAMID GETS MOVED,
ACTIVITY GOES CRAZY
IN THE HOUSE.
Berry: OKAY.
SO, WE'RE GONNA MOVE IT?
OF COURSE WE'RE
GONNA MOVE IT.
OKAY. GREAT.
♪♪
Bruni: ALL RIGHT. SO, WE'RE
GONNA DO THE SPIRIT BOX, RIGHT?
THE SPIRIT BOX SCANS
RADIO FREQUENCIES
AND ALLOWS ENTITIES
TO MANIPULATE THOSE FREQUENCIES.
WITH EVPS, WE HAVE TO WAIT
FOR A PLAYBACK
TO MAKE OUT
ANY MESSAGES.
THE SPIRIT BOX RESPONDS
IN REAL-TIME.
THE BLINDFOLD AND THE
NOISE-CANCELING HEADPHONES
MAKE SURE I CAN'T HEAR
ANY OF ADAM'S QUESTIONS.
I'LL GO INTO MATT'S ROOM, 'CAUSE
THEY HEARD THE VOICE IN THERE.
OKAY. I'M READY.
I'M GOING.
[ STATIC PLAYING ]
ALL RIGHT.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WITH US?
THE KIDS WERE PLAYING DOWN HERE
WHEN THEY HEARD A VOICE.
IS HOLLY'S MOM HERE?
ADAM,
SOMETHING JUST TOUCHED ME.
WHAT?
WHO'S TOUCHING AMY?
YOU CAN'T TOUCH AMY.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO,
OKAY?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND
WHAT I'M SAYING?
[ STATIC CONTINUES ]
CAN YOU TELL US
WHAT YOUR NAME IS?
ARE YOU RELATED
TO HOLLY?
Bruni: DO NOT...
WITHOUT...
WE MOVED
THAT PYRAMID.
THE FLOOR.
♪♪
Berry:
WE MOVED THAT PYRAMID.
THE FLOOR.
DO YOU WANT US TO MOVE
THE PYRAMID BACK?
AMY?
WHAT?
SO, I LEFT THAT ROOM AFTER
YOU SAID YOU GOT TOUCHED.
I CAME IN HERE...
- YEAH.
...BECAUSE I WANTED
TO KEEP AN EYE ON YOU.
I KEPT ASKING FOR A NAME.
I KEPT ASKING FOR A NAME.
NOTHING WAS MATCHING UP
EXCEPT FOR, YOU JUST KEPT
REFERENCING THE FLOOR, LIKE,
THE PYRAMID WAS ON THE FLOOR.
OH.
BUT NOTHING ELSE
SPECIFICALLY, LIKE,
MATCHED UP, EVER.
IT'S WEIRD BECAUSE,
WE GOT A RESPONSE
WHEN WE ASKED
ABOUT MOVING IT,
BUT NOTHING WHEN
WE ASKED ABOUT HER MOM.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT GETTING
A LOT DOWN HERE.
LET'S GO BACK TO
THE MASTER BEDROOM,
WHERE WE GOT
RESPONSES LAST NIGHT.
♪♪
SO, WHOEVER IS HERE,
ARE YOU RELATED TO ANYONE
IN THIS HOUSE?
HOLLY THINKS YOU MIGHT
BE HER MOM.
YOU CAN TALK TO US.
THEY GAVE US FULL REIN OF
THE HOUSE WHILE THEY'RE GONE.
WE ARE WELCOME HERE.
WE WERE INVITED HERE.
[ UNEXPLAINED STATIC NOISE ]
WAIT.
GO BACK.
[ UNEXPLAINED STATIC NOISE ]
DID THAT SAY "CINDY"?
- YEAH. THAT SAYS "CINDY" SO LOUD.
- YES.
CLEAR AS DAY.
WHO'S CINDY?
THE NEIGHBOR.
[ GASPS ]
THAT'S A REALLY
CLEAR EVP.
YEAH. "CINDY."
THAT SOUNDS...
THAT'S THE CLEAREST
I'VE HEARD IT.
WHY WOULD HOLLY'S MOM
SAY "CINDY"?
WE NEED TO TALK TO HER.
♪♪
ALL RIGHT.
SO, CINDY,
THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR LETTING US
KIND OF BARGE
INTO YOUR HOUSE UNEXPECTEDLY.
OH, NO PROBLEM.
WE WERE TALKING WITH
HOLLY ACROSS THE STREET,
AND HOLLY HAS MENTIONED THAT YOU
HAD SOME EXPERIENCES FROM HERE.
YOU'VE ACTUALLY SEEN
SOMEONE IN THE WINDOW.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE THAT
FOR US?
YES. ACTUALLY, THE TALL THIN
WINDOW THAT IS STRAIGHT OVER
WITH THE LITTLE
ARCHWAY ON IT,
I'D LOOK OUT,
AND IT LOOKED LIKE
THERE WAS A FORM
STANDING IN THE WINDOW.
- OH, GEEZ.
- OH, GOD.
SO, IT JUST LOOKED
LIKE THE OUTLINE
OF A FIGURE
STANDING THERE,
LIKE, SOMEONE WAS TRYING TO GET
SOMEONE'S ATTENTION OVER THERE.
AND YOU COULD TELL
THEY WEREN'T HOME
BECAUSE THE LIGHTS
WERE OFF, YOU KNOW.
Berry: OKAY.
DIDN'T APPEAR
ANYBODY WAS THERE.
THE TV WASN'T ON OR ANYTHING
LIKE THAT, TO CREATE THAT.
- WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING.
- YEAH.
DO YOU KNOW IF
THE PREVIOUS HOMEOWNERS...?
YES. THERE WAS ACTUALLY
A COUPLE, STEVE AND PAT.
AND HOW LONG
DID YOU KNOW THEM?
PROBABLY SINCE THE MID '80S,
I KNEW THEM.
I WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL.
THEY MOVED IN SOMETIME
AROUND THERE.
WE FOUND THAT BOARD
THAT'S IN THE BASEMENT
WITH THE ALL THE SOUVENIRS
FROM THEIR TRIPS.
OH, YEAH.
THEY LOVED TO TRAVEL.
THEY TRAVELED ALL
OVER THE PLACE.
THEY MUST HAVE REALLY BEEN
IN LOVE WITH EACH OTHER.
OH, THEY WERE. YES.
THEY VERY MUCH WERE.
I WOULD GO
AND HELP THEM OUT.
A COUPLE YEARS AFTER THEY WERE
HERE, THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT
AND PAT ENDED UP
IN A WHEELCHAIR.
SO, SHE HAD LIMITED MOBILITY,
BUT SHE STILL GOT AROUND.
AND I'D GO OVER AND SHE'D
BE WEEDING THE GARDEN,
AND I'D GO PULL HER
OUT OF THE MUD.
NOW, IT SEEMS LIKE
YOU HAD
A REALLY SPECIAL
RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.
YEAH. I HAVE SOME SOME THINGS
THAT BELONGED TO PAT
THAT SHE HAD LEFT ME
AFTER SHE PASSED AWAY.
WHAT DID SHE LEAVE YOU?
SHE ACTUALLY LEFT ME
HER ENGAGEMENT RING...
WOW.
...A HEART PENDANT,
AND A PAIR OF STUD EARRINGS.
- OKAY.
- OH.
THOSE ARE VERY
SPECIAL THINGS.
YEAH.
SHE DIDN'T HAVE A DAUGHTER.
SO, SHE KIND OF,
I GUESS, ADOPTED ME.
DO YOU KNOW HOW
THEY PASSED AWAY?
THEY FOUND
THAT SHE HAD MS.
SO, THAT JUST -- IT'S --
KIND OF STEMMED FROM THAT.
AND HE HAD A RECURRENCE
OF THE HODGKINS,
BUT THEY BOTH PASSED
AWAY IN THE HOUSE.
Bruni: THERE'S A LOT MORE
GOING ON IN THIS HOUSE
THAN WE
ORIGINALLY THOUGHT.
THE FORMER HOMEOWNERS,
PAT AND STEVE,
LIVED HERE FOR YEARS,
BUT THEY ALSO DIED HERE.
WE NEED TO STEP AWAY AND COME UP
WITH A NEW GAME PLAN.
SO, THIS CASE
IS PRETTY CRAZY.
IT'S DIFFERENT IN THE SENSE
THAT, THE PEOPLE
WE'RE DEALING WITH
HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING
THIS ACTIVITY IN THEIR HOUSE
FOR QUITE FOR SOME TIME.
AND TO HOLLY, ESPECIALLY,
SHE JUST KIND OF ASSUMED
IT WAS HER MOM
BECAUSE HER MOM DIED
RIGHT AROUND THE TIME
THEY BOTH THIS HOUSE.
SO, CINDY,
SHE'S SEEING ACTIVITY.
WE NEED TO, LIKE,
GET IN THAT HOUSE
AND MONITOR
THAT SITUATION.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT
OF THINGS GOING ON.
WHAT I THINK IS INTERESTING
ABOUT THIS IS THAT,
WE BASICALLY HAVE
TWO LOCATIONS.
BUT ONE THING I THINK WE NEED
TO REALLY FOCUS ON IS THE STUFF.
I FEEL LIKE THE OBJECTS
HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE
A LARGE COLLAGE OF EVERYTHING
THE PREVIOUS HOMEOWNERS
EVER DID TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, AND THEN,
HERE'S CINDY,
WHO HAS SOME
OF THE BELONGINGS
OF THE FORMER OWNERS,
PAT AND STEVE.
SHE MIGHT NOT EVEN REALIZE
THERE COULD BE
SOME SORT OF ATTACHMENT
TO WHAT SHE HAS.
AND I'M BETTING
THAT TOM AND HOLLY
HAVE NO IDEA, EITHER, THAT ALL
THESE OBJECTS COULD BE INVOLVED.
WE NEED TO GET INTO
CINDY'S HOUSE.
LIKE, WE HAVE TO GET
INTO CINDY'S HOUSE
AND START MONITORING
THE OTHER HOUSE.
- WE NEED HELP.
- RIGHT.
[ LIGHT BUZZES ]
WE HAVE SOME FRIENDS
NAMED GREG AND DANA.
THEY'RE PERFECT
FOR THIS CASE.
THEY HAVE A COMBINED
35 YEARS EXPERIENCE
SPECIALIZING IN HAUNTED OBJECTS,
WHICH WE HAVE A LOT OF.
BUT GREG AND DANA
ARE ALSO SKILLED
PARANORMAL
INVESTIGATORS,
WHICH IS GOOD, BECAUSE
NOW, WE HAVE TWO LOCATIONS,
AND WE CAN'T BE
IN BOTH PLACES AT ONCE.
- WHAT'S GOING ON?
- WELL, A LOT.
BASICALLY, WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE
IS, WE HAVE TWO LOCATIONS.
YOU KNOW, THIS PLACE,
THERE ARE SOME OBJECTS
THAT WE FEEL LIKE
THE FORMER OWNERS
MIGHT BE VERY
ATTACHED TO.
AND THEN, WE BROUGHT
SOME OBJECTS FROM NEXT DOOR,
AS WELL, THAT WE THINK
THEY MIGHT BE ATTACHED TO.
SO, I THINK OUR HOPE
IS TO, MAYBE, SPLIT UP,
AND YOU GUYS
CAN STAY HERE
AND KEEP MONITORING
THESE OBJECTS
WHILE WE GO
ACROSS THE STREET.
BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY SEE
AN APPARITION IN THIS WINDOW.
AND THEN, AFTER THAT,
WE CAN ALL INVESTIGATE
TOGETHER DOWNSTAIRS
FOR A BIT.
ABSOLUTELY.
SO, THIS IS WHERE
THEY HAVE...
THEY'VE HAD ACTIVITY
DOWN HERE,
BUT THERE'S ALSO
THIS AMAZING BOARD.
I HAVE THESE OBJECTS,
WHICH IS A PAIR
OF EARRINGS IN HERE,
THE ENGAGEMENT RING,
AND THE NECKLACE.
SO, YOU GUYS CAN USE
THESE, FOR SURE.
WONDERFUL.
Dana:
WE BROUGHT THE DARK MIRROR,
WHICH CHARGES UP
THE ENERGY IN A PLACE,
AND A LOT OF MANIFESTATIONS
TEND TO HAPPEN
AROUND THE MIRROR ITSELF.
- YEAH. OKAY.
- AWESOME.
WHEN WE INVESTIGATE A HOUSE,
WE ARE IN THAT HOUSE.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE
EVER GONE TO ANOTHER LOCATION
TO DO A GHOST
STAKEOUT ON A HOME.
HOPEFULLY, GREG AND DANA
INVESTIGATING AROUND THE ITEMS
WILL HELP STIR UP
WHATEVER IS HERE.
AND WE GET TO TRY
TO EXPERIENCE
WHAT CINDY HAS SEEN
FROM ACROSS THE STREET.
SO, FROM HERE, I MEAN,
I SEE GREG AND DANA
WALKING AROUND.
- YEAH. YOU CAN --
- SO YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE --
YOU WOULD BE ABLE
TO SEE SOMEBODY.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE OF THEM
WALK IN FRONT OF THAT WINDOW,
AND THEN WE COULD SEE
WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
CAN ONE OF YOU GUYS
WALK UPSTAIRS
and get in front of that
window that we're looking at?
DANA: Do you want me to go,
or do you want...
GREG: Dana will go.
All right.
I'm here.
SHE'S IN THE WINDOW NOW?
ARE YOU IN THE WINDOW
RIGHT NOW?
- I'M IN THE WINDOW.
- OH, THERE SHE IS.
CAN YOU WALK IN FRONT OF THE
WINDOW FROM YOUR LEFT TO RIGHT?
YOU GOT IT.
♪♪
GO BACK.
And go back.
OKAY. I SEE THAT.
- MM-HMM. OKAY.
DO WE LET HER GO BACK
TO HER INVESTIGATION?
YEAH.
LET HER GO.
ALL RIGHT.
YOU CAN GO BACK DOWNSTAIRS.
THANKS SO MUCH, DANA.
NO PROBLEM.
OKAY.
I'M GONNA START
WITH A SESSION.
MM-HMM.
IF THERE'S ANYONE
IN THIS BASEMENT WITH US,
WE'D REALLY APPRECIATE IT
IF YOU'D COME DOWN
AND SAY, "HELLO."
WE'VE HEARD THAT YOU MIGHT
NOT HAVE LIKED THE FACT
THAT THIS MURAL WAS REMOVED.
IS THAT TRUE?
- PLAY IT BACK.
- CALL THAT GOOD?
MM-HMM.
[ TAPE RECORDER CLICKS ]
Bruni: I KNOW THAT, LIKE, CINDY
DOESN'T SEE IT ALL THE TIME,
BUT THE REALITY IS,
IS WE ARE RILING THINGS UP
OVER THERE RIGHT NOW, 'CAUSE NOT
ONLY HAVE WE BEEN INVESTIGATING,
BUT NOW, WE JUST BROUGHT
GREG AND DANA HERE.
IT LITERALLY LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE
IS STANDING IN THAT WINDOW.
WAIT A MINUTE.
IS ANYBODY UP THERE?
Tom: If there's anyone
in this basement with us,
we'd really appreciate it
if you'd come down
and say, "Hello."
- [ GASPS ]
- "PUT IT BACK."
OH, MY GOD.
♪♪
Bruni: ADAM AND I
NORMALLY INVESTIGATE
A HOME'S ACTIVITY
FROM THE INSIDE.
IT'S NOT OFTEN WE'RE
INVESTIGATING A CLAIM
THAT SPIRITS CAN BE SEEN
FROM ANOTHER HOUSE.
THE ACTIVITY JUST PICKED UP
ON THE TOP FLOOR
THE EXACT TIME
GREG AND DANA
STARTING GETTING SOME
RESPONSES IN THE BASEMENT.
- [ GASPS ]
- "PUT IT BACK."
OH, MY GOD.
IT'S WEIRD BECAUSE, IT LITERALLY
LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE's
STANDING IN THAT WINDOW.
IS ANYBODY UPSTAIRS?
Dana: Nope.
No one's up there.
I ABSOLUTELY,
100%,
SAW SOMEBODY WALK
IN FRONT OF THAT WINDOW.
- THAT'S WEIRD.
- THAT'S VERY WEIRD.
OKAY.
LET'S GO BACK OVER THERE.
Bruni: IT WAS A CRAZY EXPERIENCE
TO ACTUALLY SEE WHAT CINDY SEES.
I REALLY THINK
US BEING HERE
IS TRIGGERING SOMETHING
TO COME OUT,
AND TO ACTUALLY SEE IT
IS PRETTY COMPELLING.
I SAW, DISTINCTLY, SOMEONE MOVE
ACROSS THE WINDOWS UPSTAIRS,
AND I SAY DISTINCTLY, "OH,
SHE'S STILL UP THERE, RIGHT?"
I'M LIKE, "WAIT,
ISN'T SHE STILL UP THERE?"
AND THAT'S WHEN
I WALKIED OVER,
YOU ARE NOT UP HERE.
- MNH-MNH.
- NO.
SO, WHAT HAPPENED?
I WANT TO PLAY
WHAT WE GOT,
AND I DON'T WANT TO
TELL YOU WHAT WE HEARD.
OH, RIGHT THERE.
"PUT IT BACK."
- YEAH, "PUT IT BACK."
- "PUT IT BACK."
- MM-HMM.
- IT IS REALLY QUIET.
LET'S ASK SOME
MORE QUESTIONS.
ARE YOU CONCERNED
THAT THEY ARE
GOING TO DESTROY
THIS ART PIECE?
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
IF YOU HAVE A MESSAGE.
IS THAT THE CASE?
ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE CHANGES
THEY'VE MADE TO THE HOUSE?
DO THE CHANGES
BOTHER YOU?
LET'S LISTEN AND SEE
IF THERE'S ANYTHING.
- OH, MY GOD.
- IT SOUNDED LIKE...
WHAT DOES IT SAY?
- "NO WAY."
- I COULD HEAR THAT. YEAH.
I DON'T THINK --
YEAH, THEY KNOW.
IT DEFINITELY APPEARS THEY DON'T
LIKE WHEN THINGS GET MOVED.
BUT THIS "NO WAY" EVP SEEMS LIKE
THEY'RE NOT ANGRY
AND TRUST HOLLY AND TOM
WILL KEEP THEIR MURAL IN PLACE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK
IS GOING ON HERE?
IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE
VERY READY TO TALK.
I THINK WHAT THEY DIDN'T
HAVE ARE PEOPLE
WHO ARE LISTENING
VERY INTENTLY BEFORE.
ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU,
GUYS, AND WE'LL -- YEAH.
WE'LL LET YOU KNOW
HOW EVERYTHING TURNS OUT.
PLEASE DO.
I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR IT.
YES, PLEASE.
♪♪
I THINK HER MOM IS NOT HERE.
I MEAN...
NO. I DON'T. I HAVEN'T --
I MEAN, WE'VE GOTTEN NOTHING.
I JUST REALLY WANTED TO GIVE
HOLLY AN ANSWER.
I MEAN, IF PAT AND STEVE
ARE HERE,
THEN I THINK WE NEED TO GET
CINDY OVER HERE.
YEAH.
GET MORE ANSWERS.
YEAH.
SO LET'S DO THAT.
LET'S JUST SEE IF SHE'LL COME
OVER AND INVESTIGATE WITH US.
Berry: WE GOT AN EVP ABOUT
THE FORMER HOMEOWNERS,
PAT AND STEVE'S, TRAVEL BOARD.
BUT THAT'S ONLY ONE EVP.
MEGHAN SEES
A MALE SHADOW FIGURE,
AND BOTH THE KIDS
HEARD A FEMALE VOICE.
COULD BOTH PAT
AND STEVE BE HERE?
OR IS SOMEONE
ELSE HERE?
WE CAN'T RULE
ANYTHING OUT.
VERY EARLY ON
IN THIS INVESTIGATION,
WE'RE GETTING
RESPONSES TO CINDY.
WE'RE GETTING CINDY'S NAME.
SO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BRING
CINDY INTO THIS INVESTIGATION.
WE NEED TO SEE IF
WHOEVER'S HERE
IS GONNA REACT TO
WHEN WE BRING HER IN.
LET'S GRAB
SOME EQUIPMENT.
♪♪
SO, LET'S DO THIS.
WHAT THIS IS, IS IT'S
A PROXIMITY SENSOR.
THE PROXIMITY SENSOR GIVES OFF
AN ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD
AROUND OBJECTS
IT'S ATTACHED TO.
IF ANYTHING THAT CONDUCTS
ELECTRICITY DISTURBS THAT FIELD,
AN ALARM SOUNDS
TO LET US KNOW.
LITERALLY, IF I GET CLOSE IT,
THIS IS NOW A CONDUCTOR.
SO, I FEEL, LIKE...
- OH.
IF ANYONE REACHES OUT
TO TOUCH IT...
YEAH.
THE ALARM GOES OFF.
IT'S PRETTY HANDY.
I MEAN, I GUESS, MAYBE, YOU CAN
HELP US FIGURE OUT IF WHY.
I MEAN, LIKE, WHY.
DO THEY LIKE THE CHANGES?
DO THEY LIKE
THE THINGS?
QUESTION -- HOW TALL WAS STEVE,
WOULD YOU SAY?
WAS HE A TALL MAN?
HE WAS, ACTUALLY, PROBABLY
AROUND ADAM'S HEIGHT.
HOW TALL, YOU THINK?
Tom: PROBABLY YOUR HEIGHT.
ALL RIGHT.
I KNOW.
- WHAT?
- YOU AND ME OUT OF HERE.
OH.
♪♪
HEY, PAT, STEVE.
IT'S JUST ME NOW.
CAN YOU TALK TO ME?
IF YOU TALK INTO
THIS RECORDER DOWN HERE,
THEY'LL HEAR YOU, AND THEN I'LL
BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU.
AND I PROMISE I'LL NEVER,
NEVER EVER GET RID
OF YOUR WONDERFUL
GIFTS TO ME.
ANYTHING YOU WANT
TO TELL ME?
ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO LISTEN
AND SEE WHAT SHE GOT.
♪♪
OKAY.
- WHAT WAS THAT? OH, MY GOD.
- WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
LET IT FINISH.
SOMETHING ABOUT
THE BED.
IS IT,
"THEY'RE ON THE BED?"
- YEAH.
- YEAH.
THAT'S,
"THEY'RE ON THE BED."
YEAH.
THEY'RE ON THE BED.
THEY'RE ON THE BED.
[ PROXIMITY SENSOR BEEPS ]
SOMETHING'S TOUCHING THAT.
[ PROXIMITY SENSOR BEEPS ]
SOMETHING ABOUT THE BED.
IS IT,
"THEY'RE ON THE BED?"
- YEAH.
- YEAH.
- THAT'S, "THEY'RE ON THE BED."
- YEAH. THEY'RE ON THE BED.
THEY'RE ON THE BED.
[ PROXIMITY SENSOR BEEPS ]
SOMETHING'S TOUCHING THAT.
[ PROXIMITY SENSOR BEEPS ]
Berry:
SHUT YOUR MOUTH.
YES. IT'S ON THE BED, YOU GUYS.
IT'S FUNNY THAT...
IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY'RE
POINTING IT OUT TO EACH O--
[ PROXIMITY SENSOR BEEPS ]
WHO'S TOUCHING IT?
IS IT PAT?
"PAT."
"PAT."
IT SAYS "PAT."
- YEAH.
- MM-HMM.
I KIND OF WANT TO ASK A COUPLE
MORE THINGS AT STEVE.
ME, TOO.
THESE ITEMS THAT YOU
GAVE TO CINDY, PAT,
SHE STILL HOLDS ON
TO THEM.
DO YOU LIKE THAT?
Cindy: ANYTHING YOU WANT
TO TELL ME?
HAPPY TO LISTEN.
IS THERE A REASON
WHY YOU'RE STILL HERE?
LET'S LISTEN
TO THE RECORDER.
IT'S QUIET.
I MEAN, WE KNOW
WHY THEY'RE HERE.
THEY'RE HERE BECAUSE
THIS WAS THEIR HOME.
THEY HAVE A CONNECTION
TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD,
A CONNECTION TO CINDY.
DOES THAT SOUND
LIKE THEM TO YOU?
I BELIEVE IT'S THEM.
THANK YOU
SO MUCH, CINDY.
OH, NO. I'M GLAD.
I'M GLAD IT HELPED, YOU KNOW,
BRING THEM OUT.
IT WAS GREAT
TO HAVE YOU HERE.
OH, THANK YOU.
Berry: NORMALLY, WE JUST WRAP
THINGS UP FOR OUR CLIENTS,
BUT IN THIS CASE,
WE GAVE CINDY --
A FRIEND OF THE
FORMER HOMEOWNERS --
A BEAUTIFUL MESSAGE.
PAT AND STEVE ARE STILL HERE
AND REMEMBER HER.
NOW, WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT
THE REST OF THE EVIDENCE
TO TOM AND HOLLY.
Berry: HOW ARE YOU GUYS
FEELING RIGHT NOW?
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?
Holly:
I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW.
WE DEFINITELY -- WE TRIED
TO REACH OUT TO YOUR MOM,
AND WE TRIED TIME
AND TIME AGAIN.
WE JUST HAMMERED DOWN AND JUST
TRIED TO GET HER TO TALK TO US.
YOU KNOW, I REALLY
WANTED TO GET A --
I WAS JUST DESPERATE TO GET
A MESSAGE FROM HER,
SOMETHING FOR YOU,
AND IT WAS JUST REALLY HARD
FOR ME TO BE DONE INVESTIGATING
AND JUST NOT GET ANYTHING.
I JUST DON'T -- I WANT YOU TO
KNOW THAT WE TRIED REALLY HARD.
OH, THAT'S OKAY.
- YEAH.
- YEAH.
WELL, ONE OF THE FIRST
THINGS THAT HAPPENED TO US,
WE SETTLED, YOU KNOW,
IN THIS LIVING ROOM
BECAUSE WE WANTED
TO FIGURE OUT THE SHADOW
THAT YOU GUYS SEE
AT THE END OF THE HALLWAY.
MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I SAW
WHAT APPEARED TO BE SOMETHING
THAT BLOCKED OUT
THE DOORFRAME.
SO, WE WERE STARING DOWN
AT THE HALLWAY,
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN,
THIS THING WAS LIKE BLOOP
AND WENT AWAY
REALLY QUICKLY.
SO, WE KEEP GOING,
AND WE'RE LIKE, "OKAY.
WELL, MAYBE
SOMETHING IS HERE."
SO, THIS WAS
IN YOUR BEDROOM.
- IT IS "CINDY."
- YEAH.
THAT WAS WHEN WE DECIDED
TO BRING CINDY
INTO THE INVESTIGATION.
WHAT WAS INTERESTING WAS,
WHEN WE BROUGHT HER
INTO THE INVESTIGATION,
AND THAT'S WHEN
THEY STARTED TALKING.
AUTOMATICALLY, WE ASSUMED,
"OKAY, WE'RE PROBABLY DEALING
WITH PAT AND STEVE
AT THIS POINT."
BUT MEGHAN SEES
THE MAN'S SHADOW.
WELL, WE ASKED CINDY,
AND WE SAID, YOU KNOW,
"HOW TALL WAS STEVE?"
AND SHE SAID, "STEVE WAS ABOUT
EXACTLY ADAM'S HEIGHT."
Berry: WHICH IS THE
SHADOW HEIGHT THAT YOU GUYS SEE.
YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT
MEGHAN DESCRIBED.
OH, SHE DID.
AND SO, THE NEXT ONE
IS, I ASK, YOU KNOW,
"WHEN THEY
MOVE THINGS AROUND,
DOES THAT AGITATE
YOU A LITTLE BIT?"
OH, OKAY.
- OH, YEAH.
- "IT DOES."
- YES.
- "IT DOES."
- "IT DOES."
- THEY'RE JUST BEING HONEST.
- MM-HMM.
OBVIOUSLY, WE KNOW PAT AND STEVE
ARE REALLY NICE PEOPLE
FROM EVERYTHING
WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THEM.
BUT I COULD SEE THEM
GETTING A LITTLE NERVOUS
WHEN YOU START REALLY
CHANGING THE HOUSE AROUND.
I MEAN, WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME
WHEN CONSTRUCTION HAPPENS
OR WHEN PEOPLE
CHANGE THE SCENERY
OR PUT WALLS
WHERE DOORS WERE,
THAT THE ACTIVITY
PICKS UP.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY
A BAD THING, IT'S JUST,
YOU KNOW, IT DOES --
IT CONFUSES THEM.
- RIGHT.
- IT'S SOMETHING THAT OCCURS.
I'M GONNA PLAY
THIS FOR YOU.
THEY WERE TALKING
ABOUT THE COLLAGE.
- THE BOARD?
- YEAH.
AND HE ASKS,
"ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT
THEY'RE GONNA
DESTROY THIS?"
- "NO WAY."
- "NO WAY."
WHICH SPEAKS VOLUMES
TO THE LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE
THAT THEY HAVE
IN YOU GUYS.
I MEAN...
YOU CAN HANG IT BACK UP.
YOU CAN DO WHATEVER
YOU WANT WITH IT.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE NOT
GONNA GET RID OF IT.
AND I MEAN, I THINK
THAT THEY KNOW
THAT YOU WOULD
NEVER DO THAT.
- YES.
- YOU KNOW?
IT ALSO CONFIRMS THAT,
YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH
THEY MIGHT GET A LITTLE CONFUSED
BY THE RENOVATIONS,
THAT THEY'RE NOT CONCERNED THAT
YOU'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING
THAT'S GONNA TOTALLY
AFFECT THEM, IN A WAY, YOU KNOW?
WELL,
THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
I MEAN,
I THINK WE AGREE.
WE JUST DON'T THINK THEY WANT
TO GO ANYWHERE, YOU KNOW?
THIS WAS -- THEY ENJOY IT HERE.
- THIS IS THEIR HOME.
THEY'RE JUST HAPPY HERE,
LIKE YOU'RE HAPPY HERE.
- AND I WANT THEM TO BE HAPPY.
- YEAH.
IN EVERY SENSE
OF THE WORD,
WE GOT A WELCOMING FEELING
FROM THEM.
Holly: YOU DID?
I MEAN, YES. THERE'S, LIKE,
THE MOMENT WHERE YOU'RE LIKE,
"OH, I THINK SOMEBODY
IS WATCHING ME."
AND THAT CAN ALWAYS
MAKE YOU UNEASY,
BUT REALLY, WHEN THINK
ABOUT WHO IT IS,
IT'S, LIKE, THEY'RE JUST
CHECKING ON YOU.
I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONCERN
THAT, MAYBE, IT WOULD ESCALATE,
ESPECIALLY WITH THE MORE WORK
YOU DO IN THE HOUSE
AND EVERYTHING,
AND IT COULD,
BUT I THINK, NOW THAT
YOU KNOW WHO IT IS,
NOW YOU CAN JUST CALL OUT TO
THEM BY NAME, TALK TO THEM...
RIGHT. RIGHT.
...LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOU'RE
GONNA BEFORE YOU DO IT.
WELL, I'M GLAD THAT --
IT'S GLAD TO FINALLY KNOW
WHO IT IS.
- AWESOME.
- THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.
- GREAT.
- IT'S SO RELIEVING TO KNOW
THEY'RE OKAY WITH US HERE.
- IT IS PRETTY COOL.
THIS IS JUST ONE OF
THOSE CASES THAT, REALLY,
IT DOES HAVE
A HAPPY ENDING.
HOLLY DIDN'T GET A DIRECT
MESSAGE FROM HER MOM,
BUT SHE WAS STILL GIVEN
A SENSE OF PEACE.
THERE'S A LOT OF LOVE HERE,
AND THE FACT THAT THEY CAN MAKE
PAT AND STEVE STILL FEEL
THIS WELCOME IN THEIR HOME
EVEN AFTER
THEY'VE PASSED AWAY --
I THINK TOO OFTEN PEOPLE WANT
TO GET RID OF THEIR GHOSTS.
BUT ONCE YOU REALIZE THEY'RE
HERE FOR THE SAME REASONS
YOU ARE, YOU KNOW,
IT'S AMAZING.
YOU DON'T SEE
THAT VERY OFTEN.