Killing Richard Glossip (2017–…): Season 1, Episode 1 - This Is Pointing to Me - full transcript

Reporter: THE FEEL HERE AT THE
OKLAHOMA STATE PENITENTIARY

IS A LOT DIFFERENT TODAY.

HERE WE ARE,
STILL THREE HOURS AHEAD

OF THE ANTICIPATED
TIME OF EXECUTION

FOR INMATE RICHARD GLOSSIP.

Knight: I WAS WITH RICH
FROM 11:00 TO 1:00.

AND AT 1:00, WE HAD TO LEAVE
AND WE WERE ESCORTED OUT.

I KNEW AT THAT POINT IN TIME
THAT OUR ONLY HOPE LEFT

WAS SOMETHING FROM THE
UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT.

Man: WHAT HAPPENED EARLIER
WAS A LAST-MINUTE PLEA

TO SPARE THE LIFE
OF RICHARD GLOSSIP.



THE U.S. SUPREME COURT
HAD DENIED

THAT STAY IN A VOTE
OF EIGHT TO ONE.

IT WILL GO ON AS SCHEDULED.

Man #2: THIS IS MURDER.

THIS IS THEM KILLING A --
AN INNOCENT MAN.

THEY'RE JUST GONNA KILL HIM
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT.

EVEN THOUGH WE WEREN'T
SUCCESSFUL IN COURT,

EVERYONE KNOWS.

THE WORLD KNOWS THAT
RICHARD GLOSSIP IS INNOCENT.

EVERYONE OUTSIDE OF THAT PRISON,
WE WERE JUST WAITING.

Woman: I THOUGHT FOR SURE
RICHARD WAS DEAD.

Reporter #2:
AND NOW WE ARE GETTING WORD

THAT THERE HAS BEEN
A STAY OF EXECUTION

GRANTED BY GOVERNOR
MARY FALLIN.



YEAH!

OH, MY GOSH.

IT'S A STAY FOR SOME
LETHAL-INJECTION ISSUE.

SOMETHING ABOUT OBTAINING

ANOTHER DRUG
TO DO THE EXECUTION.

Campbell: WE PRAISE YOU
FOR THIS DAY, GOD.

WE PRAISE YOU
FOR THIS WONDERFUL NEWS.

UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY
PRONOUNCED HIM DEAD, I HAD HOPE.

I WILL NEVER GIVE UP ON HIM.

- HERE'S TO YOU, RICKY!
- LOVE YOU, RICKY!

LOVE YOU, BUD.

Knight: IT WAS LIKE LAZARUS
COMING BACK FROM THE DEAD.

**

Berlinger:
IN OKLAHOMA,

DEATH ROW INMATE RICHARD GLOSSIP
IS LIVING ON BORROWED TIME.

ALREADY, HE'S BEEN
ON THE BRINK OF EXECUTION

ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS.

NOW, ONCE AGAIN, THE STATE IS
PREPARING TO PUT HIM TO DEATH,

ON CHARGES OF HIRING ANOTHER MAN
TO COMMIT MURDER.

BUT FAR TOO MANY TROUBLING
QUESTIONS SWIRL AROUND HIS CASE.

I'M NOT IN THIS THING, MAN!

I'M REALLY NOT.

I'M JOE BERLINGER.

AS A DOCUMENTARY FILMMAKER,

I'VE SPENT MY CAREER SHINING
A LIGHT ON STORIES OF INJUSTICE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?
THEY'RE READY TO KILL THIS GUY.

I THINK IT'S
A REAL BAD DEAL.

AS GLOSSIP'S LAWYERS SEARCH
FOR NEW EVIDENCE...

EVERYTHING PRETTY MUCH
HAPPENED RIGHT HERE.

...TIME IS RUNNING OUT.

DID THE SYSTEM GET IT WRONG
WITH RICHARD GLOSSIP?

IT'S AN INNOCENT MAN
WHO'S GONNA BE EXECUTED

IF WE DON'T DO
SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW.

WE ARE THE LAST, BEST
CHANCE THAT RICH HAS,

AND WE HAVE TO SUCCEED
BECAUSE, IF WE FAIL,

HE DIES.

Knight:
WHY IS OKLAHOMA SO HELL-BENT
ON KILLING RICHARD GLOSSIP?

Berlinger: I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S
EASY FOR YOU TO TALK ABOUT,

BUT I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND

WHAT IT MUST BE LIKE TO
BASICALLY HAVE THREE LAST MEALS.

IT'S INCREDIBLE THAT YOU
HAVE BEEN ALMOST EXECUTED,

YOU KNOW, THREE TIMES.
WOW.

AND THE THIRD TIME
IT WAS HAPPENING,

DID YOU THINK THIS WAS IT?

DID YOU EVER THINK YOU WOULD
EVER BE IN A PLACE LIKE THIS?

18 YEARS IS A LONG TIME.

Woman: YOU HAVE
60 SECONDS REMAINING.

Berlinger:
EXPERIENCE HAS TAUGHT ME

THAT THE MAJORITY
OF DEATH ROW INMATES

ARE GUILTY BEYOND DISPUTE.

RICHARD GLOSSIP COULD
BE THE EXCEPTION.

SO BEFORE THE STATE
OF OKLAHOMA TRIES AGAIN

TO EXECUTE HIM,

I WANT TO LEARN MORE
ABOUT HIS CONTROVERSIAL CASE.

FROM HIS ARREST
AND PROSECUTION,

TO HIS TRIALS AND EXPERIENCES
ON DEATH ROW IN OKLAHOMA.

Farley: THIS IS A GUN-TOTING,
HANG 'EM HIGH STATE.

PEOPLE BELIEVE EYE FOR AN EYE,
TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.

I MEAN, PEOPLE WANT REVENGE
AND HERE IN OKLAHOMA,

THEY GET IT THROUGH
THE DEATH PENALTY.

THERE IS A VERY GOOD CHANCE

THAT RICHARD GLOSSIP
IS INNOCENT.

I HESITATE ONLY BECAUSE
WE CAN'T KNOW, OBVIOUSLY,

WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT
BECAUSE WE WEREN'T THERE.

BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE
SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THE CASE,

THAT I COULD NEVER SAY
FOR A FACT

THAT HE IS GUILTY.

Berlinger: GLOSSIP WAS CONVICTED
ON A CHARGE OF MURDER FOR HIRE,

ORDERING AND PAYING FOR
THE MURDER OF HIS BOSS,

A MAN NAMED BARRY VAN TREESE,

AT THIS RUN-DOWN MOTEL

ON THE OUTSKIRTS
OF OKLAHOMA CITY.

THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT PLACES

GLOSSIP AT THE SCENE
OF THE MURDER.

INSTEAD, GLOSSIP WAS
CONVICTED LARGELY

ON THE BASIS OF A NOW
CONTROVERSIAL CONFESSION

FROM THE ACTUAL KILLER,

A 19-YEAR-OLD
NAMED JUSTIN SNEED.

WHENEVER I TALK ABOUT OKLAHOMA,

I TALK ABOUT IT
AS THE RED DIRT STATE.

AND MY IMMERSION INTO OKLAHOMA

IS THROUGH RICHARD GLOSSIP.

Berlinger: SISTER HELEN PREJEAN
IS BEST KNOWN

FOR THE BOOK AND MOVIE,

"DEAD MAN WALKING,"
WHICH CHRONICLED HER WORK

WITH A GUILTY INMATE
ON LOUISIANA'S DEATH ROW.

RICHARD GLOSSIP'S CASE
IS FAR DIFFERENT.

SHE BELIEVES
HE'S ACTUALLY INNOCENT.

ONCE YOU BECOME AWAKE
AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING'S WRONG,

THEN YOU'VE GOT TO WORK
TO HELP PEOPLE SEE,

"WAIT A MINUTE.
WE'RE BETTER THAN THIS.

WE DON'T HAVE TO KILL
OUR OWN CITIZENS.

WHY ARE WE DOING IT?"

MY WHOLE THING,
ONCE I STEP IN THAT DOOR,

IS TO BE THERE FOR RICHARD

AND TO BE ATTENTIVE TO HIM.

TRY TO RECEIVE AND READ
WHERE HE IS, HOW HE IS.

IT HAS TO BE THE MOST
UNBELIEVABLY TERRIBLE THING

IN THE WORLD,
TO KNOW YOU'RE INNOCENT.

Knight: IT'S RICH?

RICH?
- Hello?

HEY, RICH.
HOW ARE YOU DOING?

Knight: WHEN I GOT INVOLVED
IN THIS CASE,

SISTER HELEN HAD SAID,
"DON, I NEED YOU TO DO THIS

AND I NEED YOU TO GIVE THIS
MANY HOURS OF YOUR TIME."

YOU KNOW THAT MAYBE
YOU SHOULD SAY NO,

BUT ANYBODY WHO'S MET
HELEN PREJEAN KNOWS

THAT YOU JUST CAN'T SAY NO.

BUT I'M A LAWYER.

I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FACTS
AND THE EVIDENCE IN THE CASE,

AND, YOU KNOW,
IS RICH REALLY INNOCENT?

Berlinger:
DON KNIGHT IS LEADING

RICHARD GLOSSIP'S
POST-CONVICTION LEGAL TEAM

IN A RACE AGAINST TIME.

KNIGHT, A FORMER JUDGE,

HAS SPENT THE MAJORITY
OF HIS CAREER

AS A DEFENSE ATTORNEY.

FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS,

HE'S FOCUSED HIS PRACTICE
ON DEATH PENALTY CASES.

I MEAN, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN
TALKING FOR A WHILE

ABOUT THE FACT
THAT YOU CAN'T BE THINKING

THAT YOU'RE GONNA GET OUT
OF PRISON NEXT MONTH

OR SOMETHING, RIGHT?

I MEAN, WE WANT YOU OUT,
OF COURSE.

WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING
WE CAN DO TO GET YOU OUT,

BUT IT'S A SITUATION THAT
IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE TIME.

Berlinger: WHAT IS HIS
LEGAL STATUS NOW?

RICH HAS BEEN THROUGH
ALL OF HIS APPEALS,

ALL OF THE APPEALS
OF THE APPEALS.

IN OCTOBER OF 2014
WAS HIS CLEMENCY HEARING.

Man: MY VOTE IS NO.

THEY DENIED CLEMENCY.

AND AT THAT POINT,
THERE'S NOTHING LEFT.

THERE'S ONLY THE EXECUTION.

THE ONLY THING THAT WILL GET
RICH BACK INTO COURT NOW

IS FOR OUR DEFENSE TEAM

TO FIND AND ESTABLISH INNOCENCE,

WHICH IS AN INCREDIBLY,

INCREDIBLY HIGH BAR TO GET OVER.

Berlinger:
PROVING ACTUAL INNOCENCE

MEANS FINDING
SMOKING GUN EVIDENCE

AND THEN CONVINCING
THE COURTS IN OKLAHOMA,

FIRST TO HEAR THAT EVIDENCE

AND THEN GRANT
GLOSSIP A NEW TRIAL.

BUT THIS IS A 20-YEAR-OLD CASE

WITH A LOT OF MISSING EVIDENCE,

NO DNA AND DOZENS OF DEAD
OR MISSING WITNESSES.

IF THERE'S A SMOKING GUN,
IT'S, WHAT HAPPENED HERE?

AND WE CAN TELL THAT STORY.

SO, THIS IS THE TIMELINE
THAT I PUT TOGETHER,

STARTING FROM
THE VERY BEGINNING.

THIS IS ALL FROM
THE POLICE REPORTS.

ON JANUARY 6th,
WHAT HAPPENED THE NIGHT

THAT BARRY WAS KILLED?

Berlinger: BARRY VAN TREESE
WAS 54 YEARS OLD,

A FATHER OF SEVEN
FROM LAWTON, OKLAHOMA.

HE SPENT 20 YEARS IN BANKING
BEFORE INVESTING

IN THREE RUN-DOWN
MOTEL PROPERTIES IN THE STATE.

HE NAMED HIS SMALL CHAIN
OF MOTELS THE BEST BUDGET INN.

Knight: WE KNOW THERE WAS
A LOT OF DRUG ACTIVITY

AND A LOT OF PROSTITUTION
GOING ON THERE.

IT SHARES A PARKING LOT
WITH A STRIP JOINT

AND IT STILL DOES TODAY.

Berlinger: THE OKLAHOMA CITY
BEST BUDGET INN

IS BARRY'S FIRST STOP

ON THE NIGHT
OF JANUARY 6, 1997.

SO IT TOOK HIM
A COUPLE HOURS

TO DO THE THINGS
HE NEEDED TO DO.

HE COUNTED THE DEPOSITS
AGAINST THE BOOKS

AND, APPARENTLY,
HE HAS ABOUT $3,000

THAT HE GOT FROM RICH.

35-YEAR-OLD
RICHARD GLOSSIP HAD BEEN

MANAGING THE BEST
BUDGET INN FOR TWO YEARS,

OFTEN COLLECTING BONUSES

WHEN HE MET OR EXCEEDED
MONTHLY REVENUE GOALS.

GLOSSIP AND HIS
YOUNG GIRLFRIEND, D'ANNA WOOD,

LIVED IN AN APARTMENT
BEHIND THE MOTEL OFFICE.

8:00 P.M.,
BARRY LEAVES FOR TULSA.

WHEN BARRY LEAVES
THE MOTEL IN OKLAHOMA CITY,

HE STASHES THE RECEIPT MONEY

UNDER THE FRONT SEAT OF HIS CAR.

ACCORDING TO REPORTS,

BARRY IS UNDER
FINANCIAL PRESSURE

AND IS HOARDING CASH.

HE KEEPS AN ADDITIONAL $23,000

IN THE TRUNK
IN MARKED ENVELOPES.

BARRY'S NEXT STOP
IS TULSA, OKLAHOMA,

TO CHECK ON HIS OTHER MOTEL.

AND HE TELLS THE TULSA MANAGER
THAT IF HIS WIFE CALLS,

TELL HER, "I'LL BE HOME
IN 51/2 HOURS."

- I'LL BE HOME?
- YES.

BACK TO LAWTON.

THAT IS ONLY A 2 HOUR
AND 45 MINUTE DRIVE.

- RIGHT.
- TULSA TO LAWTON.

RIGHT.
SO, WHY WOULD HE TELL HIM,

"IF MY WIFE CALLS,

I'LL BE HOME
IN 5 AND 1/2 HOURS"?

THAT DOESN'T
MAKE ANY SENSE.

BARRY NEVER MADE THAT DRIVE.

INSTEAD, HE CAME BACK
TO HIS OKLAHOMA CITY MOTEL

AND WENT STRAIGHT TO ROOM 102.

WHY BARRY VAN TREESE
CHANGED HIS PLANS,

AND WHO HE MIGHT'VE SEEN
WHEN HE ARRIVED IS A MYSTERY.

A MYSTERY THAT DON KNIGHT
BELIEVES THE POLICE

AND PROSECUTORS
HAVE YET TO SOLVE.

WHY ARE HIS CLOTHES HERE
ON THE COUCH IN ROOM 102?

NOWHERE IN THE ROOM

IS THERE A PICTURE
OF A SUITCASE, RIGHT?

IT JUST DOESN'T
MAKE ANY SENSE.

HE WAS FOUND IN THAT ROOM

AND HIS SUITCASE
WAS IN THE CAR

AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE...

IT'S OBVIOUSLY IN GLOSSIP'S
OWN INTEREST FOR HIM TO ALLEGE

THAT VAN TREESE CONSORTED
WITH PROSTITUTES.

AND IF THERE WAS
A WOMAN IN HIS ROOM

ON THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER,

IT GIVES HIS DEFENSE TEAM
A NEW THEORY OF THE CRIME.

BUT IT ALSO RUNS
THE RISK OF DEEPLY

OFFENDING THE VICTIM'S FAMILY.

WE WANTED TO TALK TO
THE VAN TREESE FAMILY,

BUT THEY TURNED DOWN
OUR REQUESTS FOR AN INTERVIEW.

Knight: WHAT ACTUALLY
HAPPENED HERE?

THERE'S A LOT GOING ON THERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF PROSTITUTES,

A LOT OF TRANSIENTS,
DRUG DEALERS.

WE KNOW THAT EVERYBODY KNEW
BARRY VAN TREESE HAD CASH.

SO THERE IS AN OBVIOUS MOTIVE,

THEN, TO KILL THIS PERSON.

WHAT WAS HE DOING
AT THAT MOTEL?

I DON'T KNOW WHAT
HE WAS DOING THERE,

BUT I KNOW THERE WAS
A BETTER STORY

THAN THE PROSECUTION TOLD.

**

IT'S VERY STRANGE
BEING IN THIS ROOM.

I MEAN, IT DOESN'T LOOK ANYTHING

LIKE IT DID THE MORNING
OF JANUARY 7, 1997.

BUT IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME ROOM
FROM THE CRIME SCENE.

YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE
BARRY VAN TREESE WAS LYING

AND KNOWING ALSO HOW MUCH BLOOD
WAS ON THE WALLS

AND ON THE DOOR.

IT'S UNSETTLING, FOR SURE.

Berlinger: REPORTER JORDAN SMITH
HAS WRITTEN EXTENSIVELY

ABOUT GLOSSIP'S CASE

FOR THE INVESTIGATIVE
NEWS SITE, "THE INTERCEPT."

WE WANTED TO SEE IF THERE
WAS ANY TRUTH TO THE FACT

THAT HE BELONGED ON DEATH ROW.

I MEAN, WE KNOW WHAT HE IS
ALLEGED TO HAVE DONE,

BUT IT'S JUST SCANT EVIDENCE
TO SUPPORT IT.

Berlinger:
THE CASE FILES DEMONSTRATE

HOW POLICE COMBINED
FINANCIAL RECORDS

AND WITNESS TESTIMONY
TO ALLOW PROSECUTORS

TO PRESENT THEIR THEORY

THAT GLOSSIP WAS
EMBEZZLING MONEY

BY RENTING OUT ROOMS
OFF THE BOOKS.

Smith: THEORETICALLY, AT LEAST
WHAT THE STATE SAYS,

THERE WAS MAYBE $6,000 MISSING

FROM THE OKLAHOMA CITY
OPERATION,

BUT I DON'T KNOW
THAT WE CAN PROVE THAT.

Berlinger:
THE STATE ARGUED THAT

IN THE DAYS LEADING UP
TO THE MURDER,

GLOSSIP HAD BECOME AWARE
THAT BARRY VAN TREESE WAS

GROWING SUSPICIOUS
OF THE MISSING MONEY

AND WAS READY TO FIRE HIM.

SO, ACCORDING TO
THE PROSECUTION,

GLOSSIP CAME UP WITH A PLAN
TO MURDER BARRY

AND TAKE OVER THE MOTEL.

BUT INSTEAD OF DOING
THE MURDER HIMSELF,

PROSECUTORS CONTEND
THAT GLOSSIP CONVINCED

HIS 19-YEAR-OLD
MAINTENANCE MAN,

JUSTIN SNEED,
TO DO THE ACTUAL KILLING.

JUSTIN SNEED HAD DRIFTED
INTO TOWN FROM TEXAS

AS PART OF A ROOFING CREW

AND EVENTUALLY STAYED
AT THE BEST BUDGET INN.

NOW, ACCORDING
TO PROSECUTORS,

SNEED AGREED TO MURDER
BARRY VAN TREESE

INSIDE ROOM 102

IN EXCHANGE FOR THE MONEY
IN VAN TREESE'S CAR.

Smith: BUT OF COURSE,
WHAT YOU BELIEVE

DEPENDS ON WHO YOU BELIEVE.

SO, ACCORDING TO JUSTIN,
THAT NIGHT,

JUSTIN'S IN HIS ROOM 117.

HE TAKES THIS BAT,
TAKES THE MASTER KEYS

THAT HE HAS,
GOES DOWN TO BARRY'S ROOM.

BARRY WAKES UP.
A STRUGGLE ENSUES.

THEY KIND OF GET CAUGHT UP IN
AND AMONGST EACH OTHER.

JUSTIN GOES BACKWARDS
WITH THE BAT,

SMASHES OUT THE MIDDLE
OF THE WINDOW

AND THEN HE KIND OF
COMES BACK UP.

AND THEN JUSTIN
JUST SWINGS AWAY.

EVERYTHING THAT THEY FIND HERE
INDICATES A GREAT STRUGGLE.

THAT THERE WAS SOME HELL
OF A FIGHT, BASICALLY,

AND THAT BARRY PUT UP
A HELL OF A FIGHT

BUT ULTIMATELY WAS OVERPOWERED.

WE KNOW THAT THERE
ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE AWARE

THAT SOMETHING WAS GOING
ON IN THIS ROOM.

THE MAN STAYING NEXT DOOR,
HE HEARS ARGUING,

BUT HE CAN'T REALLY MAKE OUT
WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

NOBODY SEEMED INCLINED
TO INTERVENE.

AFTER THE MURDER,
JUSTIN SNEED CIRCLES

BACK TO HIS ROOM 117.

CLEANS HIMSELF UP.

THEN HE RETURNS TO ROOM 102,

TAKES THE CAR KEYS,
GETS IN BARRY'S CAR,

DRIVES IT OVER TO
THE WEOKIE CREDIT UNION

AND STEALS THE FUNDS
THAT WERE LEFT IN THE CAR.

NOW, RICHARD HAS
A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY.

RICHARD HEARS
A TAPPING ON THE WALL

WHERE THE MANAGER
DEPARTMENT WAS.

IT'S JUSTIN SNEED
AND HE'S GOT A BIG KNOT

ON THE SIDE OF HIS HEAD.

SNEED SAYS THAT THE GLASS
IN ROOM 102 BROKE.

THAT THERE WAS
SOME DRUNKS FIGHTING.

RICHARD SAYS,
"IN THE MORNING,

WE'LL GET SOME PLEXIGLASS
AND PUT IT OUT THERE."

AS HE'S LEAVING,
HE BASICALLY SAYS,

"OH, AND I KILLED BARRY."

Berlinger: LATER THAT MORNING,
WHILE SNEED IS

INSTALLING PLEXIGLASS OVER
THE BROKEN WINDOW OF ROOM 102,

A NEIGHBOR WHO HEARD THE SCUFFLE

SEES GLOSSIP HELPING
WITH THE REPAIR.

THAT YOU'D COME
AND PUT UP THIS PLEXIGLASS

WITHOUT LOOKING INSIDE
IS STRANGE.

BUT THEN AGAIN, BARRY'S CAR

WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN OUT FRONT

OR IN FRONT OF ROOM 102
AT THIS POINT.

SO, THEORETICALLY, RICHARD MIGHT

NOT HAVE THOUGHT
THAT BARRY EVER CAME BACK.

Berlinger: THE EVENTS THAT
UNFOLDED THAT DAY,

WHILE VAN TREESE LAY DEAD
ON THE FLOOR,

PLAYED A CRITICAL ROLE
IN HOW THE POLICE

CAME TO FOCUS
ON RICHARD GLOSSIP.

GLOSSIP LEFT THE MOTEL
IN THE AFTERNOON

TO BUY D'ANNA WOOD
AN ENGAGEMENT RING.

IT WAS BAD TIMING ON HIS PART.

Knight: SO, IT'S ABOUT 3:00
IN THE AFTERNOON

AND EVERYBODY KNOWS

BARRY'S MISSING
AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

THEY FOUND HIS CAR
IN THE WEOKIE CREDIT UNION.

THE POLICE ARE
STARTING TO ARRIVE

BECAUSE THEY'RE FILLING OUT
A MISSING PERSON'S REPORT.

CLIFF EVERHART ARRIVES.

CLIFF EVERHART, WE DON'T
REALLY KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT HIM.

HE SAYS HE'S
A BOUNTY HUNTER, TOO...

- HE'S A BOUNTY...
- ...AND A SECURITY GUARD.

AND PART OWNER
OF THE BBI.

AT SOME POINT IN TIME,
EVERHART SENT SNEED

TO GO LOOK
THROUGH THE ROOMS.

SO THE COPS,
FOR SOME REASON,

STOP WORRYING ABOUT
LOOKING IN THE ROOMS

BECAUSE THEY THINK
IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.

Berlinger: AROUND THIS TIME,
MOTEL EMPLOYEES PAGE GLOSSIP

AND THEY RETURN
TO THE BEST BUDGET

TO FIND POLICE OFFICERS
ON THE SCENE.

AS SOON AS ALL THESE POLICE
START COMING AROUND,

THAT'S THE LAST TIME
THAT JUSTIN IS SEEN.

THIS WAS HAPPENING VERY QUICKLY
AND IN REAL TIME.

- YES.
- I MEAN, BARRY IS MISSING.

NOBODY KNOWS
WHAT'S HAPPENING.

RICH IS BEING
ASKED QUESTIONS

AND HE'S TRYING TO
ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS,

BUT IT'S DIFFICULT TO KNOW
WHO TO SAY WHAT TO

AND HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.

SO WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?

FINALLY, AT 10:00 PM,

EVERHART AND A POLICE OFFICER
BREAK INTO ROOM 102

AND DISCOVER BARRY'S BODY.

Smith:
THE COPS FIND BLOOD EVERYWHERE,

ALL OVER THE WALLS,
ALL OVER THE DOOR,

THE BROKEN WINDOW,
BARRY'S BODY ON THE FLOOR.

HE'S JUST BLOODY AND BEATEN.

THERE IS AREAS ON THE WALL

WHERE THEY THINK
THAT BARRY'S HEAD

KIND OF CAME INTO CONTACT
WITH THE WALLS

BECAUSE THEY COULD SEE SORT OF
THE STRIATIONS FROM HIS HAIR.

Berlinger: HOMICIDE DETECTIVES
ARRIVE ON THE SCENE

AND,
ACCORDING TO POLICE RECORDS,

CLIFF EVERHART STEERS

THE INVESTIGATORS
TOWARDS GLOSSIP.

EVERHART TELLS DETECTIVES
THAT GLOSSIP GAVE HIM

WILDLY INCONSISTENT
ACCOUNTS ABOUT

WHEN HE HAD LAST SEEN
BARRY VAN TREESE ALIVE.

Smith: THEIR STANCE
FROM THE BEGINNING

IS REALLY AGGRESSIVE

AND THEY JUST DID NOT SEEM OPEN
TO ANY OTHER SCENARIO.

THAT'S NOT EXACTLY
HOW YOU KIND OF

WANT TO START OFF
AN INTERROGATION.

Knight: IN THE 24 OR 48 HOURS
AFTER THIS HOMICIDE,

BEMO AND COOK WERE LIKE
A LASER BEAM ON RICH.

AND HE WAS IN A SITUATION

THAT WAS JUST
OVERWHELMING FOR HIM.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

Knight: BEMO'S ALWAYS
CIRCLING AROUND,

LOOKING FOR SOME
KIND OF WEAKNESS,

SOME KIND OF WAY
TO BORE IN.

I'M LISTENING.

Farley: BEMO AND COOK WERE
HARD-CORE HOMICIDE DETECTIVES.

WHATEVER IT TOOK
TO MAKE AN ARREST,

THEY WOULD DO.

THEY WERE NOT FRIENDLY
PEOPLE TO REPORTERS.

THE PRESS DIDN'T LIKE THEM

AND THEY WERE INSISTING

THAT HE CONFESSED
TO THE WHOLE THING

AND HE NEVER DID.

TO THIS DAY, HE'S INSISTED
THAT HE'S INNOCENT.

Knight: THIS CRIME TOOK PLACE
ON JANUARY 7th OF 1997.

SNEED RAN OFF THAT DAY
AT ABOUT 3:00.

ENDED UP GOING BACK
TO THE ROOFING CREW

THAT WAS STILL IN TOWN
THAT HE HAD QUIT BEFORE,

AND HE WAS GONE
FOR ABOUT A WEEK.

AND THEN, HE WAS ARRESTED.

Farley:
IT WAS A CIRCUMSTANTIAL CASE

AGAINST GLOSSIP WITH
SNEED PROVIDING

ALL THE CORROBORATING TESTIMONY.

HERE, YOU HAVE A YOUNG KID

AND HE TELLS THEM EXACTLY
WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR.

THEY TELL HIM WHAT
THEY WANT HIM TO SAY.

HE SAYS IT AND CASE CLOSED.

Berlinger: THE INTENSE PRESSURE
ON JUSTIN SNEED

TO SAY WHAT HE THINKS
THE POLICE WANT TO HEAR

IS SOMETHING JEFFREY DESKOVIC
CAN WELL RECOGNIZE.

Detective: JUSTIN,
WHAT WE WANT TO DO

IS TALK WITH YOU
ABOUT THIS THING.

DESKOVIC SPENT 16 YEARS
IN PRISON AFTER CONFESSING

TO A MURDER
THAT HE DID NOT COMMIT.

Deskovic:
IT WAS A LONG TIME.

I FELT THAT THIS DAY
WOULD ACTUALLY NEVER COME.

HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN YOU
WERE CHARGED WITH YOUR CRIME?

YOU WERE 16, RIGHT?
- I WAS 16 YEARS OLD, RIGHT.

INTERROGATION
PLAYED A KEY WITH YOU.

YES, IT DID.

SO I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW
WHAT YOU THINK

OF THE INTERROGATION
OF JUSTIN SNEED

AND HIS DECISION
TO NAME A CO-CONSPIRATOR,

WHETHER YOU FEEL THAT FELT
CONTRIVED OR LEGITIMATE.

STOP.
SO THEY JUST SUGGESTED

A BENEFIT TO HIM,
THOUGH, INDIRECTLY,

"THE BEST THING
FOR YOU WOULD BE

TO TELL US
WHO ELSE WAS INVOLVED."

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, THOUGH?
"THE BEST THING FOR YOU."

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE GOING
TO GET SOMETHING OUT OF IT.

THERE'S A REWARD
IN IT FOR YOU.

RIGHT.
SO IF YOU NAME SOMEBODY,

EVEN IF IT'S FICTITIOUS...
- RIGHT.

...YOU'RE GOING TO GET
A GOOD DEAL.

YES.

YEAH, BUT SEE,
JUST RIGHT THERE HE SAYS,

"YOU KNOW, RICH IS
UNDER ARREST."

HE JUST NOW
INDIRECTLY TOLD HIM

IN A RATHER OBVIOUS WAY

WHO THEY WANT HIM
TO GIVE THEM SPECIFICALLY.

THEY'RE
RATCHETING IT UP.

THEY'RE RATCHETING
THE PRESSURE UP.

SO HE'S FEELING TRAPPED?

YEAH.
DEFINITELY.

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK

HE IS GOING THROUGH
PSYCHOLOGICALLY NOW?

I THINK THAT HE IS LOOKING
FOR A WAY OUT

AND THERE'S ONLY
REALLY ONE WAY OUT.

THE COPS HAVE MADE
THAT CLEAR TO HIM.

YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAYS,
THIS REMINDS ME

OF MY BEING INTERROGATED.

AND LOOK, YOU GOT TO THE POINT
WHERE YOU JUST,

JUST TO GET RELIEF
FROM THE SITUATION,

YOU TOLD THEM WHAT
THEY WANTED TO HEAR,

WHICH IS THAT
YOU, YOU KNOW,

RAPED AND KILLED
SOMEBODY THAT YOU DIDN'T.

SO IMAGINE BEING
IN A SITUATION

WHERE YOU'RE ACTUALLY
GUILTY OF A CRIME, YOU KNOW?

AND HOW THAT
MUST PLAY WITH,

YOU KNOW, A DESIRE
TO BE COMPLIANT.

I MEAN, I WOULD'VE LOVED
TO HAVE SEEN

WHAT WOULD'VE HAPPENED
IN A LEGITIMATE QUESTIONING.

WHAT SNEED WOULD'VE
COME UP WITH.

WHAT WOULD HE HAVE SAID?

WOULD HE EVEN HAVE MENTIONED
GLOSSIP'S NAME AT ALL, PERIOD?

Boyiddle: THIS IS JUST ONE
OF THE BOXES OF LETTERS

THAT RICHARD'S RECEIVED.

AND THESE ARE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE WRITTEN TO HIM?

OH, YES.
THIS IS JUST ONE BOX OF THEM.

HE'S GOT A LOT MORE THAT
WE COULDN'T GET RELEASED TO US.

- FROM FRANCE.
- OH, YEAH.

THEY'RE FROM EVERYWHERE.

LONDON.

AND HOW MANY LETTERS
HAS HE GOTTEN?

OH, MY GOSH.
THOUSANDS!

HE'S GOT PILES AND PILES
AND PILES OF LETTERS.

THIS IS AMAZING.

"DEAR RICHARD,
I HOPE THIS FINDS YOU

IN THE BEST OF HEALTH
AND SPIRITS.

MY FRIEND AND I ARE ACTIVELY
CAMPAIGNING FOR YOU.

I HAVE WRITTEN
TO THE GOVERNOR."

THEY ALL BELIEVE
HE'S INNOCENT.

WOW. DO YOU THINK ALL THESE
LETTERS HAVE ANY IMPACT?

THEY DID ON RICHARD.
I KNOW THAT.

THEY HELPED HIM STAY STRONG.
- YEAH.

AND HE TRIED TO ANSWER
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE.

HE WAS ONE OF A LOT
OF KIDS, RIGHT?

YEAH, HE WAS ONE OF 16.

SEVEN BROTHERS
AND EIGHT SISTERS.

WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
- IT WAS CHAOTIC.

I MEAN, I HAD AUNTS
AND UNCLES MY AGE, YOU KNOW?

AND WE ALL
GREW UP TOGETHER.

SO HE WASN'T THAT
MUCH OLDER THAN ME,

BUT HE WAS ALWAYS
JUST VERY UPBEAT.

HE'S ALWAYS BEEN
THAT WAY.

WHAT IMPACT DID THE ARREST
HAVE ON HIS OWN FAMILY?

I KNOW IT HAD A PRETTY BIG
IMPACT ON HIS MOM AND DAD.

HE'S LOST BOTH OF HIS PARENTS
SINCE HE'S BEEN IN PRISON.

HIS MOM ATTENDED THE FIRST
AND SECOND TRIAL.

SHE BELIEVED TILL THE DAY
SHE DIED THAT HE WAS INNOCENT.

SO DID HIS FATHER.

TWO OF HIS CHILDREN

DON'T WANT ANYTHING
TO DO WITH HIM ANYMORE

BECAUSE HE HAS THAT MURDER
ATTACHED TO HIS NAME.

Prejean: WE TALKED ABOUT
RELATIONSHIPS

WITH EVERYBODY TODAY.

AND THEN I TOLD HIM AGAIN
WHO HE IS TO ME.

AND I SAID, "RICHARD,
I SEE THE GOODNESS IN YOU."

I'M A NUN BUT I DON'T KNOW
HOW PRAYER HELPS PEOPLE.

ALL I KNOW IS WHEN YOU COME INTO
THE PLACES OF MYSTERY LIKE THIS,

YOU PRAY TO ASK THAT
HE WILL HAVE

WHAT HE NEEDS
TO GET THROUGH THIS.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS CONVERGENCE
OF FORCES AROUND RICHARD

IS GONNA SAVE HIS LIFE.

I'M HOPEFUL THAT
HE IS GONNA LIVE.

Berlinger: EVERY DAY THAT PASSES
BY WITHOUT NEW EVIDENCE

IS ANOTHER DAY CLOSER
TO RICHARD GLOSSIP'S EXECUTION.

IT COULD COME AS EARLY
AS THE SUMMER OF 2017.

WHILE HIS LAWYERS WORK
TO PROVE HIS INNOCENCE,

GLOSSIP TRIES TO STAY POSITIVE.

Sarandon: YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE
GOING TO CHECK OFF BOXES

OF WHAT COULD GO WRONG
AND WHERE THE INJUSTICE IS,

YOU WOULD BE CHECKING
A LOT OF BOXES FOR HIM.

Berlinger: ACTOR AND ACTIVIST,
SUSAN SARANDON,

IS ONE OF RICHARD GLOSSIP'S
MOST ARDENT SUPPORTERS.

HE'S MAINTAINED
HIS INNOCENCE ALL ALONG.

HE HAD NO MOTIVE.

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE
AGAINST HIM, PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

IT ALL HINGED ON THE DEAL

THAT THE MURDERER
MADE TO GET LIFE

AND TO GIVE THIS PROSECUTOR

ANOTHER LITTLE MARK
IN HIS BELT

BECAUSE HE PRIDES HIMSELF
ON BEING SOMEONE

WHO HAS SENT A LOT
OF PEOPLE TO THEIR DEATH.

AND ONE OF THE FEW WAYS
THAT YOU CAN DO THAT

IS SOMEONE WHO'S PAID SOMEONE
TO MURDER SOMEONE,

AND SO THAT WAS
THE CHARGE AGAINST HIM.

YEP.
PLEASE.

Campbell: RICKY WANTED TO EARN
EVERYTHING HE GOT

AND HE HAS EARNED
EVERYTHING HE'S GOT,

UNTIL THIS, YOU KNOW?

AND THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE
ONE GUY GOT PINCHED.

RICKY JUST HAPPENED
TO BE ONE OF THEM PEOPLE

WHO WAS IN THE WRONG PLACE
AT THE WRONG TIME,

FROM THE WAY I SEE IT.

AND IF YOU LOOK
AT HIS BACKGROUND,

HIS HISTORY,
NEVER COMMITTED A CRIME.

HE NEVER EVEN HAD
A PARKING TICKET.

HE'S WORKED HARD
ALL OF HIS LIFE.

WHY WOULD HE DO THIS?

Berlinger:
PROSECUTORS COBBLE TOGETHER

THE FINANCIAL RECORDS
OF THE BEST BUDGET INN,

CONSTRUCTING A THEORY THAT SNEED

AND GLOSSIP DIVIDED
ABOUT $4,000--

MONEY THAT SNEED STOLE
FROM UNDERNEATH

THE FRONT SEAT OF BARRY'S CAR.

Wright: WHY WOULD HE HAVE
SNEED KILL HIM FOR $2,000?

IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
- NO.

THIS IS RICH'S $1,757

THAT HE HAD ON HIM.

THE GOVERNMENT TRIED
TO CAST THIS AS MONEY

THAT WAS TAKEN FROM BARRY

AND SPLIT WITH JUSTIN.
- RIGHT.

BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER
IS THIS IS MONEY

THAT, WELL,
RICH HAD A PAYCHECK

AND OTHER MONEY

THAT THE POLICE
AND THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY

SAID $4,000 IN CASH

WAS TAKEN FROM BARRY.
- MM-HMM.

IN ADDITION, SNEED'S MONEY
HAS BLOOD ON IT.

OH, THESE ARE
UP-CLOSE PICTURES.

- RIGHT.
- OH, WOW.

DID THEY EVER DO ANY TESTING
AS FAR AS BLOOD TESTING

TO SEE
WHOSE BLOOD IT WAS?

YES.

IT TURNED OUT THAT
IT WAS SNEED'S BLOOD

AND WE HAVE
THE ORIGINAL DNA REPORT

THAT EXCLUDES RICH

AND THEN CONFIRMS
THAT ALL OF THE BLOOD

IS SNEED'S
AND NOT BARRY'S.

SO SNEED CUT UP
HIS HANDS PRETTY GOOD

AND WHEN HE'S HANDLING
THE MONEY,

BLEEDING ALL OVER IT.

OH, MY GOD.
LOOK AT ALL OF THAT BLOOD.

IT WAS EVERYWHERE.

AND THEN RICHARD'S MONEY
HAS NO DNA EVIDENCE ON IT.

IT HAS NO BLOOD ON IT
AND THAT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT.

WHY WASN'T THIS
EVER QUESTIONED?

WHY WASN'T THIS EVER
FOLLOWED UP ON?

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COMPILE
A NICE LITTLE LIST OF PEOPLE

WHO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND
IN THESE BOXES' NAMES.

- YES.
- AND SURPRISINGLY,

OR MAYBE NOT SURPRISINGLY,

MOST OF THESE PEOPLE
WERE NEVER CONTACTED.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE NEED
TO GET MORE WITNESSES

WHO CAN, HOPEFULLY,

GET THE OKLAHOMA
COURT OF CRIMINAL APPEALS

TO COME OVER TO OUR SIDE.
IT WOULD HELP.

IT WOULD HELP
SAVE A LIFE.

Berlinger:
SO WE'RE HEADING TO SEE

RICHARD GLOSSIP IN PRISON
ON DEATH ROW.

IT'S TAKEN US A LONG TIME
TO GET THIS INTERVIEW.

HE HASN'T BEEN
INTERVIEWED IN-PERSON

PROBABLY IN TWO YEARS.

IT'S TAKEN QUITE A BIT
OF WORK TO GET

AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD
TO FINALLY MEETING HIM.

TAKE YOUR SHOES OFF
OVER HERE.

JACKET.

**

REALLY GOOD TO SEE YOU.

I'M GLAD WE FINALLY HAVE
A CHANCE TO TALK FACE-TO-FACE.

IT'S TAKEN QUITE A BIT
TO GET THIS INTERVIEW WITH YOU.

SO WE APPRECIATE IT.
SO LET'S JUST START OFF.

HOW DID YOU LAND HERE?

I LANDED HERE BECAUSE,
IN MY OPINION,

I WAS JUST IN A BAD PLACE
AT THE WRONG TIME

AND SOMEBODY
BROUGHT ME INTO THIS

TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIFE.

JUSTIN'S FIRST STATEMENT
THAT HE MADE TO POLICE

NEVER INCLUDED ME
IN ANY OF IT.

JUSTIN SAID THAT IT WAS
A ROBBERY GONE BAD

FROM DAY ONE.

THERE WAS NO INTENT
OF MURDER FROM JUSTIN SNEED

OR ANYBODY ELSE IN THIS THING.
- YEP.

ME, PERSONALLY,
I COULDN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT

KNOWING I PUT SOMEBODY
ELSE BEHIND BARS

FOR SOMETHING
THEY DIDN'T DO,

AND THAT THEY WOULD COME THIS
CLOSE TO DYING THREE TIMES.

AND THE WHOLE THING
COMES DOWN TO THE WORD

OF SNEED
VERSUS YOUR WORD.

JUST TO BE CLEAR,
YOU HAD NO PLANS

TO ENCOURAGE JUSTIN
TO ROB BARRY.

NO.

THERE WAS NO MURDER
FOR HIRE PLOT?

NO.

YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED
TO BARRY WAS WRONG.

IT WAS A BRUTAL THING
AND HE DIDN'T DESERVE IT.

THAT'S FOR SURE.

BUT I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING
TO DO WITH IT, THOUGH.

WHAT DO YOU THINK
BARRY VAN TREESE

WOULD SAY
ABOUT ALL OF THIS?

YOU KNOW, I MEAN,
IF HE COULD LOOK DOWN NOW...

I THINK IF HE COULD LOOK DOWN
AND MAKE IT KNOWN,

HE WOULD TELL THEM
ALL THEY'VE GOT IT WRONG.

YEAH.

WITH ALL
OF THIS OUT THERE,

THE STATE
OF OKLAHOMA STILL

IN THIS RAMPED-UP STAGE
TO KILL ME.

YEAH.

AND, I MEAN, WE GET BACK
TO WHAT I BELIEVE IT IS,

IS THE FACT THAT
THEY DON'T WANT TO ADMIT

HOW WRONG THEY WERE
IN THIS THING,

HOW MANY YEARS THEY'VE
TAKEN FROM SOMEBODY.

THEY DESTROYED MY LIFE.
THEY TOOK ME FROM MY FAMILY.

THEY TOOK ME FROM EVERYTHING
THAT MATTERED TO ME IN LIFE.

PEOPLE SAY,
"WHY AREN'T YOU MORE ANGRY?"

I'M NOT ANGRY BECAUSE
I DON'T WANT TO BE.

I WANT TO BE --

I DON'T WANT
TO BE MISERABLE.

LIFE IS SHORT AS IT IS

AND I DON'T WANT
TO JUST BE THAT PERSON,

BUT I DO GET DAYS
WHEN I SIT THERE

AND I THINK TO MYSELF,
"HOW?"

I MEAN,
THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE.

NOBODY COULD EVER
BELIEVE THIS STORY.

KILLING AN INNOCENT PERSON?
YOU CAN'T GET THAT BACK.

YOU CAN'T GIVE THAT PERSON
BACK TO THEIR FAMILY.

YOU CAN'T MAKE UP
TO THEIR FAMILY

WHAT YOU DID TO THEM.

Ackley: I JUST WANT THE RECORD
TO REFLECT THAT I'M HERE

UNDER AN AGREEMENT

THAT I WON'T BE PHOTOGRAPHED
OR HAVE MOTION PICTURES

OF ANY KIND TAKEN OF ME,

AND I'M MAKING MY OWN RECORDING
OF OUR CONVERSATION.

YOU KNOW, GLOSSIP TOOK
THE POSITION FROM DAY ONE,

"I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING."

SO HE PUT THE STATE
TO ITS BURDEN

AND WE MET THAT BURDEN,

AND LET ME TELL YOU,

IF THE JURY DIDN'T
BELIEVE THAT TESTIMONY

THAT CAME DIRECT TO THEIR EARS
FROM JUSTIN SNEED,

THERE'S NO WAY THEY WOULD'VE
CONVICTED RICHARD GLOSSIP.

I THINK CAPITAL PUNISHMENT

IS A REGRETTABLE
NECESSITY OF LIFE.

AND WE ALL HAVE
TO BE ON GUARD ALWAYS

TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE
LAWFULLY AND CAREFULLY.

I WON'T STOP PROVING
HE'S INNOCENT.

NONE OF US WILL.

WE'LL STILL CONTINUE
TO MAKE SURE THE WORLD KNOWS

REGARDLESS WHAT THEY DO.

GOD BLESS THE LESS FORTUNATE
IN THIS WORLD.

GOD, LORD, BLESS...

Priest:
WHEN THE SHEPHERD SEES

THAT HE HAS LOST THE SHEEP,
WHAT DOES HE DO?

HE LEAVES THE 99
IN THE DESERT AND HE GOES...

Prejean: FORGIVENESS
IS BETTER THAN VENGEANCE.

WE SHOULD LOVE EACH OTHER

AND HAVE COMPASSION
AND MERCY FOR EACH OTHER.

TO CHOOSE LIFE.

CHOOSE LIFE
FOR THE INNOCENT, YES.

RICHARD HAS GIVEN ME
A FEELING OF, "COME ON.

COME ON. WE'VE GOT
TO KEEP FIGHTING

AND WE'RE GOING
TO DIG INTO IT TOGETHER."

I SAID TO RICHARD,
"THERE'S A LOT IN THIS THING

ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS
TO ACTUALLY BE INNOCENT."

LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE
COMING TO BAT FOR YOU.

ALWAYS CONTINUE, LORD, TO WATCH
OVER RICKY AND HIS CASE, FATHER.

PLEASE, LORD, WE KNOW YOU KNOW
THAT HE IS INNOCENT

AND WE KNOW THAT HE IS INNOCENT.

LET THE WORLD SEE
THAT HE IS ALSO, FATHER LORD.

I BELIEVE IT'S GOING
TO TAKE A SUPER,

SUPER HUMAN EFFORT
TO SAVE HIS LIFE,

BUT WE'VE GOT TO TRY.

Sneed:
THAT NIGHT, I WAS ASLEEP

WHEN MR. GLOSSIP
CAME TO MY BEDROOM.

I CAN'T FIGURE OUT EXACTLY
AT WHAT POINT I DECIDED

TO JUST GRAB THE BAT
AND GO OVER THERE.

I JUST REMEMBER GOING OVER THERE
AND OPENING THE DOOR.

THERE ARE STILL SO MANY
QUESTIONS IN THIS CASE.

WHY ARE WE BELIEVING
JUSTIN SNEED?