Interrogation (2020–…): Season 1, Episode 9 - P.I. Charlie Shannon vs Amy Harlow 2003 - full transcript

I need an ambulance. Hurry.

My mom--
she's fucking dying, okay?

Just get over here.

Seven months after the fall

of Saddam Hussein's regime
in Iraq,

and there is no slowing
of the violence

directed at American soldiers.

For the second time in a week,

a U.S. helicopter goes down
in Iraq with deadly results.

CBS News correspondent
Charlie D'Agata...

Jesus.



What the fuck
is wrong with you?

Fuck off.

Amy Harlow.

Same social, same D.O.B.

She moved around a lot
the last 20 years,

like she's running
from something or someone.

But you can't run from
Charlie Shannon.

All right,
so let me get this straight.

You want to go talk to her
in Mexico?

Yeah, she was
your friend.

Helped your father after.
Stayed in touch.

Until she didn't.

This girl believed in you.

Knew you were innocent.



Maybe she's got
a good reason for that.

And what, she doesn't
have a phone?
No.

No. No phone, no place.

My guy says
she's house-sitting

for some bohunk photographer.

Eric, she knew Chris Keller,
lived with Trey Carano

in your building.

We need to find out
what she knows.

I don't know, I mean,

what the hell happened
to Internal Affairs

doing this work for free?

Lynch found the
second shoe print.

If he keeps
doing his job...

I.A.'s job is to put down
shit cops like Dave Russell.

My job is to do what he should
have done in the first place

besides getting locked in
on you,

which is to investigate.

When we get a new trial,
we gotta be prepared.

That one bloody shoe print
isn't gonna cut it.

How much?

It's Baja, not Barcelona.

Get a cheap ticket,
or take the fucking bus.

Baby, let me drop you off
at the hotel first, before.

I'm just used to
doing this alone, you know.

I know girls like this, Charlie.

You might need help.

Yeah? What happened
to let go and let God?

I love you, too, babe.

He's real bad, and
he's getting worse.

Hearing voices and
screaming crazy shit.

Like what?

About killing you.

Breaking your neck this time
as soon as he gets out.

You don't fix it now,
he ain't gonna stop.

Yes or no?
You gonna do this?

No, I can't do that.

No, no. Shut up.

Forget about it.
Are you fucking insane?

Go.

Shut the fuck up!

I can't do that.

You hear me?

No, God! I told you!

No. No!

Get the fuck out!

Benny.

It's me.

Who is Eric fucking Fisher?

Why are you here?

The real... reason.

Okay.

Benny, shut up!

Yes. "Swerve me?

"My fixed purpose is laid
with iron rails,

"whereupon my soul is
grooved to run.

Swerve me?"

Thank you.

Get the fuck off!

Up against the wall now!BENNY: Eric!

We're not finished!

What in the hell
were you thinking?

I was just checking
on him, sir.

And delivering
contraband.

I'll deal with you
next, Officer.

Look, with all due respect, sir,

whatever you're giving him
is not working.

He needs something-- Our doctors have his
meds under control.

Benny is sick, sir!

I see.

Go!

Move!

Good news, Fisher.

You just earned him
more SHU time.

Ms. Harlow.

It's, Charlie Shannon.

I've been trying
to reach you.

She's not here!

It's about Eric Fisher.

Look, I-I just need
a few minutes.

Go away.It's like I said,

if you can just give me a few
minutes of your time, please.

I told you
she's not here, so...

Look, Ms. Harlow,
I know it's you.

All right, and it's
about Eric Fisher.

Did you, did you not hear me?

Do you want me to call the cops?No, I...

- Goddamn it, Charlie!
- I'm so sorry, honey.

I- I told him
to call first.

Baby, you can't just show up
at people's homes.

It's rude.

New husband.

Haven't trained him yet.

Sandy Shannon.

Could I use your bathroom?

Please.

Just... use it fast.

Thank you.

It was a long time ago.

Just trying
to move forward here.

So is your friend Eric.

He needs some truth
for that.

Anything you remember.

Look, if you think
there's even a chance

Eric killed
his mother, then...

He didn't.
I know he didn't.

He couldn't.

Well, that's good.

That's what he
believes, too.

He said you'd
remember.

Yeah, baby.

That was Joan Jett
and the Blackhearts...

No, you keep it.

Hall & Oates right before
here on Music 91...

Here.

For me?
Yeah.

Really?

Yeah, I think she kind of
looks like you.

Or her-her spirit.
You know?

I-- it's-it's her last,
it's her last album.

Yeah. Came out
after she died.

You know, I saw it,
and I-I thought...

What? What?Just...

What? What were you thinking?I just thought... Stop.

Okay.

You just gonna watch?

I'm not a great dancer.

Sure you are.

Because I am.

Just follow me.

Feel it. Feel it in your hips.

Calmer.

Yeah, just like me.

Good. Keep spinning.

Did you two,
ever go out?

Are you kidding?

I was 20.

He was just a kid.

You were living
with a friend of his.

Trey something,
an-an Italian name.

Right.

That's it. Time to go.

20 years.

Eric Fisher has
been locked up

for 20 years for something
that he didn't do.

And you know it.Okay.

Think about that.

If you could help him,

if you know anything...

Hey.

It's okay.

I mean, really,
we're on your side.

Slow and smoothly.
Right?

Yeah!

Don't turn it off.

You guys look,
I mean, great together.

It's Janis Joplin, man.

She got amazing pipes.

Amazing what?

I've got some stuff to do.

You should leave.

She got some stuff to do,
I guess.

You should leave.

How long were you with him?

Six years.

When last did you speak to him?

Day I left.

Check this out.

- Yeah, man.
- Try that again.

Dude, you're making
a fucking mess.

See what happens.

Look what I fucking found.

Check this out, bro.Is that a fucking
nest right here?

No.

If you touch the eggs, the
mother won't come back for them.

No, she
doesn't need to.

I'm gonna teach
them how to fly.

All right, ready?

Spread your wings.

You can't fly?
Come on.

I know you can do it.

You got to leave
the nest sometime.

Yeah!

Where's the,
fucking opener, pumpkin?

Only man I know who can't
open a beer with his hands.

Babe...

Trey...You make me fucking sick.

Trey, stop it!
Get the fuck off of me!

Yeah. Okay.Stop it!

Okay.Stop.

The next day,
he goes out to score some dope.

And he comes back.

Surprise.

Amy's gone.

I did it.

Even his sister helped me.

Carano.

He had something to do
with Mary Fisher's murder.

Okay.

What about Chris Keller?

I...

Hey.

I didn't have to do that.

Look, if Eric
didn't do it,

you need to tell us who did.Get the fuck out!

You know what?
She's serious, right?

Just get the fuck out.You knew he was innocent.

No, we're not leaving.

She knows something.

She's gonna tell us
what happened.

I knew it.

I should've done this alone.

Really?

Yeah. Eighth Amendment issue?

Well, Benny was diagnosed
here on intake.

Throwing him in the SHU,
not being on top of his meds...

Cruel and
unusual punishment.

Yep. So,

if Benny's not taking
his meds on his own,

he's got a right to proper
involuntary medication.

All right.

Fuck.

Institutional protection.Boom.

Well done, grasshopper.

Señora. Señora, para.

Señora, para.

Señora, para.
Deténgase.

Señora.

Get your hands off me!

See that? See what you did? Calmese.

Calmese, señora.
Calmese.

Ahora tengo que llamar
la policía, señora.

Calma. Calmese.

Fuck you!

If you tell us the rest,

we'll get you out of here.

No charges, fresh start.

If you don't, we walk.

We want to help.

I know a good rehab
a few hours away.

We could get you
set up there.

What do you say?
You ready to walk out of here?

Is that a yes?

Okay.

Okay.

Come on.

Charlie.

Charlie!

Shit.

You know, she don't look
so vicious passed out.

She's not passed out, shithead.

I hope you're ready
to hear this.

Something I heard

at my first meeting.

"We're only as sick
as our secrets."

You keep that shit inside,
it kills you.

Eric didn't do it.

He wasn't even there.

Yeah, how do you know that?

Because I was.

Trey used to pick me up
from work.

He had my car.

He was always late,

except that day he was early.

Time to go.

I'm not done with my shift yet.

But if we don't
leave now,

we're gonna be late
for the parade.

Happiest place
on earth.

Disneyland? We're going?

Look out for that hippo!

What?

Come on, let's go.

Let's go, let's go.
Okay.

Go. Go. I got this.Thanks, Melanie.

'Bout fucking time.

And you're sure

Chris Keller was there?

Which was weird
because Trey

didn't even know
Chris that well.

We're gonna make
a quick stop.

Eric's dad said

he would give us
some money for tickets.

Where is Eric?

Right here's good.

We parked the car
a couple of blocks away.

That's when Chris got out.

It's Thursday.

Isn't Mr. Fisher at his office?

Will you just shut the
fuck up for a change?

We're not going to Disneyland.

What the fuck is taking
this guy so long?

Come on, man.

Get in the car.What's going on?

Get in the car.
You drive. Hey.Trey?

What happened? Trey?

We got to get
the fuck out of here.TREY: Okay.

Okay, okay, let's go.
Let's go.
Shit.

Drive.

That fucking jacket.

He looked so lost without it.

Just fucking drive the car!

And this was March 10?

You're sure?

Amy.

It was March 10,
day of the murder.

Eric's dad called

the next day--
he was, like...

He called me at work,

and,

he said he needed help

cleaning up.

: It was a mess.
He said that Eric, that he,

that he
was in jail,

and I just, I knew,

I- I-I knew.

Did you tell anyone?
I mean, any of it?

Trey,

he would've killed me, like,
he would've killed me.

Amy, he can't
hurt you now.

He can't.

I mean, I know

this was difficult for you,
but you did...

you did great.

You did so good.Okay.

I packed you a bag.

What? I mean,
I'm not going anywhere.

Yeah, you are.

You're gonna get sober.

And a month from now,

you are gonna be
a whole new person.

You're-you're gonna
be stronger.

Strong enough to testify.

What are you talking about?

I'm not testifying to shit.

Okay.Because I didn't
tell you anything.

Give me that back.

That's-that's mine!
That's my voice!

Come on, let's go. Let's go.SANDY: Honey,
just wait a second.

One... God. Listen,

anytime, day or night,

you call me, okay?I won't call you.

Fuck you.

I'll fucking sue you!

And this was March 10?

You're sure?

Amy.

It was March 10,
day of the murder.

Now, as far as we know,

Russell never even
questioned her

or even tried to.

Trey Carano.

Henry Fisher, he gave
Eric's car to Carano.

Forget Carano.

We got everything
we need.

You add this to the parole board
letter, the-the glare bullshit,

Chris Keller's
shoe print,

you file your
report now,

while Eric's still got
some life ahead of him.

That's the only way Eric's case
gets reopened.

The original.
I have a copy.

I remember this.

That was your chance to play
big-time P.I. on TV.

Looked like fun.

Yeah, that's right. I'm only
in it for the money?

Inadequate protection

of an inmate in the SHU?

I got in there.

Come on, look, because the
inmate's severe mental illness

was initially diagnosed here,

this institution is legally
required to transfer him

to another place

where that illness
can be treated.

Makes sense. Because there are
so many fine psych facilities

in the California prison system.

I'm just giving you
a heads-up, sir,

before I file that
with the warden.
No need.

I just talked to him.

Since the new meds
are working

and there's no other
place to put him,

Benny stays right here.

For your protection,

in a different block.

Sir, he tried
to kill me.

I mean, I'm still
gonna see him.

I'll see him on the yard.

I'm gonna see him at chow...Have you seen him?

I released him this morning.

He's in D block.

There you go.

You're welcome.

So you're saying
Carano threatened

to bite this guy.

Yeah, can you just fax me a copy
of the arrest report?

The arrest report.

You want me
to send you to Texas?

Credible witness claims
that Chris Keller's the killer.

An unverified report

from Fisher's P.I. in Mexico.

That's why I got to go.

I got to corroborate
with Trey Carano.

Not my job or yours.

If Eric Fisher
didn't kill his mother,

you're not interested
in who did?

There are time limits.

Dave Russell's captain's
been calling me,

asking me where we
are on this thing.

You want to
work homicide?

Take the fucking
detective test.

Your report, on the letter only,

on my desk today.

Captain.

It's not the end of the world,
but it's not great news.

Internal Affairs
shut Lynch down.

Forced him to limit
his report

to Russell's letter to the
parole board, nothing else.

And they transferred him

to another department.

It's okay.
I mean, we've still got

a couple of moves left.

RHD is going to reinvestigate
your case.

Two cold case coppers.

Fucking RHD. Yeah,

it's like the fox guarding
the fucking henhouse.

Okay, now, listen.

Ian Lynch gave me
his real report.

The big one.
The one he didn't file.

I talked to a couple
of reporters,

and they're real interested.

What, like Lynch was interested?

How much of my dad's money
did you give him?

I get it.

You're upset.Yeah, what was it?

Was it enough
to string him along

while he worked the complaint?

Gives you enough time to drain
my fucking bank account.

Look, we got a great case.

Everything Lynch did,
everything I've done,

Okay.we've got that.

Yeah, okay.

You know what?
Actually, you know what?

I- I feel...
I feel pretty good.

I feel pretty
good, Charlie.

You know, I feel like...
I feel like a big weight

has just fallen from my
shoulders, you know?

A big, greedy,

blood-sucking leech.

Guard.Eric...

Look, do you want to fire me?

I just fucking did.

Okay, look, you add these names

to your visitors list, okay,
'cause I'm not giving up.

Russell never talked

to Amy Harlow?

Not as far as we know.

He never even tried.

Lieutenant Russell
locked in

on Eric
the second he saw him.

He framed an innocent
17-year-old boy

just because he could.

We pulled the old clips.

The arrest,

the trial coverage.

There is a lot

of evidence against him,
Mr. Shannon.

I mean, maybe Russell helped
that evidence a little...

No, no, no, no.

He helped a lot.

And when he needed to,
he made shit up.

Do you think the LAPD really
cleaned up after Rampart,

after Rodney King?

What about the cops

who were here before,
who stayed through?

You think they changed,
because, what,

the Christopher Commission or
the Feds told them they had to?

You read the
Harlow interview.

Do you have any reason
to believe that she's lying?

Any indication at all that
she's not a reliable witness?

Look, like we said...

we'll look into it.

If there is something here,
we will get back to you.Yeah, you know...

Save it.

It was my mistake.

I thought you were
real reporters.

"I thought you were
real reporters."

Yard time is over.

Inmates, stand by for count.

Yard time is over.

Inmates, stand by for count.

"For hate's sake,
I spit my last breath at thee."

- Get him, Benny!
- Fucking kill him!

All cell block D and C guards
to the yard.

All cell block
D and C guards to the yard.

Kiss the ground!

Everybody, get down!Face down!

Hands down!

We have a Code 3.

Hostage situation.
An inmate has a weapon

to C.O. Murphy's throat.

Back the fuck up!Calm down.

Recall and lock it up.

Yard detail is now on lockdown.

Yard detail is now on lockdown.

I don't have a clear shot.

It's okay.

No!

Shot fired. Shot fired.
Man down.

I got to check.

You all right? Yeah.

Roll over.
Hands behind your back.

Do not move!

All right, let's get 'em down.

Let's get 'em down.
Let's clear them out.

What are
you looking at?

Hands down!

Facilities are on lockdown.

All inmates, return
to your cells and don't move.

Wait for the count.

They teach you how to
do that at law school?

No.

Now I just got to eat it.

This is-is the
orange monster.

Orange monster
say gimme...

gimme.

Orange monster say go.

S- Stand the fuck down!

Hey, Dad.

Nice hat.
Hey, honey.

Hey.

Monster voice.

It's just like yours.

Get this piece of
shit out of here.

He smells!

It's me. It's Dave.

Dave.Yeah.

That was my son's name.

Yeah, that's
right, Grandpa.

Must be a slow news day.

We got a tip.
Got to follow up.

From Charlie Shannon?

Eric Fisher's P.I.?

Now, the word on him
is he got canned

for falsifying arrest reports,
this guy.

Back to Eric Fisher.

Whose bloody footprints were
all over his mother's house,

who hated her, who was
a spoiled, entitled junkie,

a violent meth head who laughed
at her when she gave him money

and stole from her
when she stopped.

She kicked him out at 15,
nailed all the windows shut,

because she was
that scared of him.

Eric Fisher...

who confessed...
in detail.

The Manning confession.

I understand there were
some questions about, um,

Paul Manning's credibility.

Not from me.

And not from the D.A.
and not from the jury.

'Cause I had too
much real evidence

to risk that case with even a
whiff of a false confession.

So listen, Manning said that
Fisher crushed his mother's head

with a workout bar, okay?

He called it the QuadroBow.

Well, there were lots of details
in your follow-up report...

Yes. Yes.

But the QuadroBow
wasn't one of them.

So Manning

got that straight
from Eric Fisher.

And if you want more,

you can check out Eric Fisher's
four or five other confessions.

And if you still have questions
after that, you can call me.

Maybe I could...

sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.

I mean, I could use the money
for my retirement.

Eric Fisher is
exactly where he belongs.

What the fuck
do you want?

Nice seeing you, too.

Follow me.

Mr. Fisher.

Theresa Adler--
Los Angeles Herald Examiner.

Arun Vemuri.

Thanks for, um, putting
us on your list.

Sit down.

For some reason,
California prisons

aren't big on inmate visits
with working press.

How does this work?

Well...

let's start with,
Detective Dave Russell.

Why don't you
tell us about him.