Interrogation (2020–…): Season 1, Episode 10 - I.A. Sgt. Ian Lynch & Det. Brian Chen vs Trey Carano 2003 - full transcript

Talk to me.

All these here, from countries

that no longer exist.

They must be
worth a lot.

Your son is stealing
from us again.

He's back on drugs.

My man Romer's got some
sweet new producto.

Whatever you don't sell,
bring it back

along with the cash
and we're cool.

We have to help him,
or he's gonna die.

Fuck! I can't fucking
find this sh...



Eric, you need
to come with me.

I need to find it, and
you need to fucking help me.

I'm gonna go,
I promise.

Mom?

Mom? Mom?

Help me, please.
I need an ambulance.

Hurry!

Let me out!

What, do you really think
I would do that?

Like, kill my own mother?

You're full of shit.

The jury, in the
above-entitled action,

finds the defendant guilty

of the charge



of murder in the second degree.

You don't belong here.

I'm leaving you money.

New lawyers, new investigators.

Chris Keller
didn't put you here.

We got to focus
on what did.

The cops, the judge,
the evidence.

Russell falsified
tons of evidence.

He fucked me
every way he could.

You have any proof?

I got all kinds of proof.

I just fucking love prison.

Lieutenant Russell
straight-up lied

to my parole board

in writing.

LAPD Internal Affairs
has to go after Russell.

Sergeant Ian Lynch.

Lynch,
Internal Affairs.

Eric Fisher,
the shithead

who killed his mother?
Who I put in prison?

Who deserves to die there?
That guy?

This Lynch asshole,
he's not gonna stop.

You think I'm
that kind of cop?No.

Get this piece of shit
out of here.

He smells.It's me. It's Dave.

Word around the office
is the captain's pissed.

You're taking
too long, Ian.

It's not your shoe print.

Someone else was
in the house,

and I'm thinking
it was Chris Keller.

Get in the car.What's going on?

Get in the car.
You drive.
Trey?

Okay, okay, let's go.Shit.

I knew, I knew...

Did you tell anyone?
No.

Trey would've killed me, like,
he would've killed me.

I need an ambulance. Hurry.

My mom--
she's fucking dying, okay?

Just get over here.

Easy.

Why do you want
to talk to them? You hate cops.

Did you do
something really bad?

I did.

I did.

You want me
to send you to Texas?

Credible witness. Claims that
Chris Keller's the killer.

It's not my job, or yours.

Well, i-if Eric Fisher
didn't kill his mother,

you're not interested
in who did?

You want to work homicide,
take the fucking detective test.

Your report.

On the letter only,
on my desk today.

Captain, he-he's got
full-blown AIDS.

The witness in Texas,
Trey Carano.

I.A. time limits
are not gonna mean shit

when Eric Fisher files

a civil suit
in this case.

You know, his P.I.,
Charlie Shannon,

he's got reporters
on speed dial.

Carano is a potential
exculpatory witness.

If we don't
talk to him

and he dies,
how's that gonna look?

Look, I'll go to Texas,
I'll knock it right out.

I'll have my report
on your desk by Monday.

Fine.

Thank you, Captain.

Yeah, get me Curtis at RHD.

Hi, Harry, it's me, Alex.

Yeah, I've got a situation here.

You got a detective
who can travel to Texas?

- Friedman's pissed.
- You pushed her into this trip.

If that happens, all you've got
is the parole board letter.

Dave Russell skates
with his "Not Resolved."No, Louise,

that's what happens
if I don't go.

Look,

Amy Harlow, right,
she says that Eric Fisher

wasn't there.
If I don't get

that backed up from Carano...

You want to be the hero.
Solve the case.

Yes.

I want this freaking asshole
gone for everything,

for all of it.

I know Lynch.

He wants to be fucking
Jim Rockford.

He's gonna talk to Carano.

No, he's not.

Yeah, he is. Yeah, he is.

God, he fucking is, man.

And what's-what's-what's
Carano gonna say?

"Yeah, no, I was at the
crime scene, but I waited in the

car while fucking Chris Keller
fucking murdered her"?

Carano's a fucking snake, man.

You know, he got my dad
to give him my car

so he could go track down
Chris Keller in San Francisco.

Guy smoked dope for a week,

told my dad he was
this fucking close.

You got to
call Lynch,

but you got to talk to him,
you got to stop him.

I mean, Carano will undermine
Lynch's entire report.

No, he won't.Yes, he will, man.

I told him Carano was a dead end

when I handed him
the Harlow tape.

Look, Lynch filed
his report yesterday.

Now, just relax.

Okay? This is happening.

That's a lot
of questions.

I like to be prepared.
you know?

Just remember,
you want checkable facts.

Why does Carano
want to talk to you?

Does he need to get
something off his chest?

Or is he using you,

setting you up for a lie
he wants you to believe?

Only way to know is
through checkable facts,

and you get those
by letting him talk,

having a conversation,

not through a bunch
of pre-determined questions.

Thank you.

I'll let you know
if I need anything else.

There it is.

Get that.

Put it on the chair.

I got it.
I- I got it.

Easy. Slower.

I told him 15 minutes, no more.
You can't touch him.

One more infection
and he'll die.

Excuse her.

My sister's a very
cautious person.

Okay.

So this is a recording
of Internal Affairs

interview on complaint file

03014A96.

So I want to take you back
to early 1983,

around the time of...He didn't do it.

...murder of Mary Fisher. Who?

My boy. Eric.

He didn't...

didn't do it.

So I'm going to ask you
a few questions.

Back then,
did you know

an Amy Harlow?

She recalls an incident.How is she?

It was near the time
of the murder,

um, she-she says that
you picked her up from work.

Well, I would...

I picked her up every day.

Well-well, this day,

Chris Keller was
in the car with you,

and the three of you,
you drove-- Well,

she thought that she was
going to Disneyland,

but you parked
a couple of blocks

from the Fisher house.She said that?

You and Amy waited in the car.

Keller went to the Fisher house
to get money from Mr. Fisher,

and when he returned, he wasn't
wearing his leather jacket.

Amy said he was,

he was very upset.
You, too.

And that she thinks

that something happened
in the house.

Well...

You want me to stay?

Yeah.

I'll be here right behind you.

Amy thought that something
happened in the house.

See...

First of all,

I would never have had

Chris Keller in the car
to pick Amy up.

You're saying that Amy's lying?

I don't know.

Maybe she thinks
that this ha-happened.

She always
thought that

Chris Keller was involved,

but all of this...

parking far away

and jackets
disappearing,

sounds like she's tripping.

So...
I mean, that's
the thing about

the hot bitches, you know?
They're so fucking crazy.

I broke up
with her...

...six times.

Six times.
She just wouldn't leave.

You can ask my sister.

This is the girl that
wanted to marry me.

So, Chris Keller, then.

Why did Amy think
that he was involved?

Fucking everybody thought

that Chris Keller was involved.

He was violent.

He loved knives.

But that cop, you know.

That cop had it in for Eric.

So you're saying Eric
didn't kill his mother.

I'd swear it
with my last breath.

Then who did?

The devil.

Man...

you're a thousand short.

Hey, man, I told you.

I told you.
You said it was cool.

I lied.

Come on, man...

You got a problem with that?

But thanks for dropping by.

All right, hold on.
We can work this out here.

Hold him!
No, no, no. No,
no, no, wait a minute.

Let me-- I can fix this.

Yeah? How you gonna fix it?

Front me another quarter.

Okay, I'll gram it out,
I'll pay you back.

I'll pay you back all the money,
I swear to God.

I just need a couple days.

That sounds like a plan.

If you give me a kiss.

'Cause I like to get kissed
while I'm getting fucked!

Okay. Okay! Okay.

I want my money.

Okay, just wait.
Look, my parents are rich, man.

They're rich, okay?
My dad's got

a stamp collection
that's worth, like,

a fucking hundred grand.100,000. That's bullshit!

No, it's not!
It's not bullshit.

I swear to God,
I'll sell a couple.

I'll sell a couple, I'll come
back, I'll give you the money.

I'll give you the whole fucking
grand, man, I swear to God.

Trey, is he telling the truth?

You do that.

Bring it to the club tonight.

Fucking watch yourself.

Tonight?

Tonight.

You got a problem with that?

Eric was in deep shit.

Really fucking deep.

He didn't even know

how fucking deep.

Fuck, man! Shit.

Where we going?Where the fuck
do you think I'm going?

My mom's home.

Fucking stamp shop
closes at 6:00.

I don't get it, man.

You think this is
about a thousand bucks?

I am gonna pay him back.

You just told Romer
that your dad has

100,000.

What do you think
he's gonna do?

He's gonna rob
your fucking house.

He and Ray are gonna
take the safe and anything else

that he can get his hands on

after you've paid him
the thousand.

You get that, right?

Just pull over.I can't breathe.

I can't breathe,
I can't breathe.Just calm down. Pull over, man.

Fucking pull over!

Fuck.

Fuck, man.

They're gonna fucking
kill 'em, man.

Fucking Romer's Hells Angels.

And Ray Pine fucking
shot a guy six times

and threw him out
a fucking window!

Your parents are gonna be fine.

How the fuck can you
even say that?

Because they're not
gonna be there.

Your mom brings you groceries
every Thursday, right?

So Thursday morning
she's at Gelson's, right?

Your dad's at the office.

The house is empty, right?Yeah.

Tonight, we go to the club.

You keep your mouth
fucking shut.

I'll tell Romer

you know the combination.

You know how
to get into the house.

We hit the house,
but it's got to be Thursday,

I can't. I can't.
I can't, man.
You got to.

You got to.
It's the only way.I can't do that, I can't.

You want to protect your
parents, this is the only way!

Look...

I'm your friend, man.

I know. I know.

I'm trying to
help you out here. Okay?

I know, man. I know, I know.

I know. Thank you, man.

You just...

you got to stop being
such a fucking pussy. Okay?

Okay?

Dude, do these,
and then we'll go.

Come on, come on,
come on.

It's gonna be okay.
Come on.

Eric?

It's just me, Chris.

Hey.
Hey.

My dad... kicked
me out. Can I--

Can I crash?

Hey, come on,
come on, come on!

Launch time, baby.
Your rocket ship awaits.

We got shit to do.

Okay.

What's wrong?You gotta help me, man.

What's going on?

Just come in. You gotta--
You gotta help me.

Hey, what's up?

Yeah, you won't do it
in the bathroom, though.

Look at this.

Kermit the fucking Frog
in olive oil.

Put it right here and then
give me that shit, man.

What the fuck?

Did I tell you to bring
your girlfriend there?

We gotta talk.

No, talk's over.
You got my money?

We both know it's not
about the money

that I owe you, okay?

You're gonna rob
my parents' house,

we're gonna fucking help you.

You want to do it without
the combination to the safe,

without knowing how to get in,
or-or when it's gonna be empty,

just be my fucking guest.

And when
this is done,

you guys are even.

Just leave my
fucking friend alone.

You're spunky, man.

Your girlfriend's spunky.

All right, big man.
Come on in, brother.

Come on, I got some fine folks
here I want you to meet.

Hey, everybody.
Say hello to Eric.

So, Thursday?

Yeah, man.

Thursday.

Morning.

He's not up for this.

Look at him.

Come on, he's a
fucking kid, man.

Their fucking kid.

It's his parents, man.

Yeah.
Who fucking kicked him out.

That's the guy with the
combination to the safe.

You don't have it?

Said he'd tell me
when we're there.

Anything we take,

we split.

Even.

Equal shares.

Everybody gets...

the same.

Equal shares,
equal weight.

So if this thing
goes south...

...if he fucks up...

I mean, if he talks,
if he even whispers

my fucking name...

...it's on you.

There is no place
I can't get to you.

You know that,

don't you, Trey?

Good, man.

Just, um,

make sure
he knows it, too.

All right?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

You told Eric

that Romer planned on
robbing the house?

But Romer never said so himself?

He didn't have to.

So, before
you told Eric that,

Eric ever plan
to rob his parents?

I'm just telling you
what fucking happened.

Right. I-I'm saying
it sounds like you planned it.

Like I planned it?

Let me tell you
something.

There was no fucking plan.

This was a bunch of meth
addicts robbing a house.

Chris Keller
opens it up,

we go inside,

Eric stays outside.

Eric was gonna be the...

lookout.

That was the big fucking plan.

Really?

An ice cream truck?

He was a drug dealer.

No one stops an ice cream truck.

Romer used to drive
out to the desert

and he'd come back
and this truck would be...

filled with meth.

So,

on the tenth,

March 10,

what happened?

Plan was

fix up, head over
to the house together.

But...

Yeah.

That's not how it happened.

Well, how didit happen,
exactly?

Exactly?

I don't know.

I wasn't there.

Show me your hands!Hands, hands, hands!

That morning, Feds

busted into my place.

Put me on a plane to Miami
to testify

at this murder trial.

This guy I'd done quaaludes
with in Lauderdale started...

telling me about all the...

people he killed.

S- So, the Feds took you away

on March 10,

the morning of the murder?

Jesus.

All right,
well, that's...

I wanted to be there.Yeah.

I wanted to protect him.But i-if you--
if you weren't there

and you don't know
what happened,

then what in the hell
am I sitting here for?

'Cause Romer told me.

Right when I got back.

He told me something,

and I have had it in here...

...for 20 years.

Man.

I just got back
from fucking Florida, man.

Had to help my sister out
with this bullshit.

I was just hanging out here,
gonna get

a couple of burgers from your
girlfriend, but she's not here.

Might have to come back.

You think he did it?

What's up?

Come on, man.

Your little gram man
killed his mom.

Do you think he did it?

What?

It was like a... test.

He wanted to see
what I would say.

Yeah, he did it.Fucking A he did it.

Smacked out of his mind.
He killed her...

killed her high.

I shot him up myself
that morning.

And he still owes me
15 bucks, man.

You tell him that...

...if he ever gets out.

That's how he told me.

That's how I know

what happened that day.

He got rid of him.

Man, Trey said
he'd fucking be here!ROMER: Yeah, well,

Come on, man, l-let's just...No, no, no, no,

no!
You don't understand,

okay? He's supposed to be here.

We're supposed to get high.

Something must've happened.

He...
We got to fucking cancel, man.

Cancel, my ass.

Let's go now.-

No!Or I'm gonna have
Ray come up here

and rip your fucking eyes out!I don't fucking care!

Fucking do it, man!

Fucking kill me!
I don't give a shit.

I'm not doing it
without Trey. Chris,

I can't, man,
I fucking can't.He can't,

okay? Not-not like this.

Okay.

I'll fix you.

All right?CARANO:
See, Eric never,

ever did smack,

and he never used a
needle, not for anything.

Come on.

15 bucks, man-- that is, like,
a Romer-sized shot

of pure heroin.

No, no, no,
not-not that.

I don't-I don't want that.

Yeah, you do.

Got a real gentle touch,
come on.

I- I-I can't...Don't-don't do it.

I can't pay you.That's cool, man.

Don't worry about it.
You can pay me later.

Come on, man, he's-he's
scared of needles. Just...

We'll do...

We'll-we'll-we'll-we'll
do this another time,

you know, when-when-when-when
Trey's back?

We can do this, like,
next-next week, right?

Yeah, next week, man.
Makes sense.Okay.

All right.-

You'll be fine.

Shit.

What the fuck?Let's go.

What did you give him?I said let's go!

We might have to get
a diamond drill,

to take the whole
fucking safe with us.

What the fuck did you give him?

Yeah, Einstein,
do you know how much

those fuckers even weigh?

I don't give a fuck.

Shit!

Shit.

Shit, man, she fucking saw us.

I'm sorry.

Get out.
I'm calling the cops.

I- I didn't think you'd be here.
I- I'm just...

My mom kicked me out.

Get out.Okay. I'm-I'm leaving.

Please just...

don't call the cops.I have to.

You broke into my home.

I can't go to jail.

Look at me,
I'll-I'll fucking die.

Well, that's your problem.

You fucking bitch.

So...

who did it?
Who killed her?

Can't say.

'Cause you weren't there.'Cause he didn't tell me.

Who do you think
had it in them?

I don't know.

All of 'em.

Any one of them
that didn't have it in them?

Yeah.

Not Eric.

Not my boy.

Fuck. Fuck.

Mom, you got to breathe,
you got to breathe, Mom!

I'm so sorry.

I don't know
what to say.

Yeah. Well...

neither do I.

Th-Thank you.

Have you talked to Chris?
Does he know?

I don't know.
I don't know.

Just get you home.

She was stabbed, Trey,

and Chris, he's fucking missing.

We have to go to the police.

We have to tell them
about Chris.

I know.

You think they're
gonna listen?

So what?

Eric's your friend.

Something you're not telling me.

What the fuck's going on, Trey?Nothing.

I don't want to fucking
go to the cops.

You're right,
okay, baby? Hey.

I'll go to them.

I promise.

Did you tell them?

Cops. Come on.

Thank you.

All those years,
you knew.

Your friend was in prison,
you didn't help him.

He would have killed me.

You've done a lot
of bad things, Trey.

A lot.

This one you did good.

You really did.

- Hey, I really appreciate this.
- I'll call you

when I get back to L.A.

Feds served the warrant
at 0700 on March 10,

took him straight to Florida
to testify.

Sent him back on the 12th.
So that part was true.

But even in Carano's version,
Fisher had some part of it.

All right? When to hit
the house, how to get in,

that all came from him.

He was in
on the plan.

Maybe Carano's

trying to beef up
Eric's involvement

so he doesn't come across
as the mastermind,

you know, so to speak.

That's a big maybe.

'Cause everything we just heard?

Hearsay,

from a drug addict

who wasn't there.

Why I need to talk to Romer.

Sergeant Lynch,

Captain wants
to talk to you.

So RHD's gonna

re-investigate Fisher.
Gonna...

Chen and-and Young--
they're-they're gonna handle it.

You know how many months
I've been working on this case?

I know. I know exactly
how many hours you've put in,

and now you can't see straight.Okay.

Okay. All right, well,
the drug dealer--

Ken Romer-- we need
to put a tap

on his phone, we need
to stimulate the wire.

RHD's already
talked to him.

The Pines, too.

Ruled them all out.

What, so that's it?

David Russell wins?

Case closed?

No.
Case re-opened.

Just not by you.

Meanwhile,

you can hand me your report,

finished or not.

And then pack up.

I'm transferring you

to the Davis Recruit
Training Center.

You'll catch some heat for this.

Make it worth it.

Chris Keller opens it up,

we go inside,
Eric stays outside.

Eric was gonna be the lookout.

That was the big fucking plan.

Lieutenant Russell
locked in on Eric

the second he saw him.

He framed an innocent
17-year-old boy

just because he could.

You read the Harlow interview.
Do you have

any reason to believe
that she's lying?

Any indication at all that
she's not a reliable witness?

Mr. Fisher.
Theresa Adler.

Los Angeles
Herald Examiner.

Let's start with
Detective Dave Russell.

Nothing about Carano.

All about Russell.

She's gonna fire you for this.

Yeah.

Um... yeah.

Thank you.

Hope you packed
your toothbrush.

He won't
need that suit

in prison.

Cameron's not gonna
let him walk.

No way.

All rise.

She won't let it happen.

Regrettably,

we move
to dismiss this case.

Mr. Fisher, you're free to go.

Good work.

Yes! Yeah.

Just give me one...

second.

Just give me a second.

I just need to wash my hands.
That okay with you?

You know there's a
lot of press outside.

You may want to
go out the back.

Doesn't matter
what anybody else thinks.

We both know the truth.

Yeah.

We do.

Just in time.
They were just about to dump it.

He seemed like a good guy.

Yeah, that'd be nice.

You know what?

Actually, I'll just catch up
with you in a minute.

You want to go fishing?

That'd be nice, yeah.

When, Dad?You tell me.

You're the one
with the schedule.

Yeah, and you're the one
who's gonna get sued.

You fought like hell
to catch that fish.

Remember that?

And you cut your thumb
on the line.

But you just...
you kept on fighting.

How do you know?

That's when I knew you
were gonna turn out okay.

Nice story, Dad, but
you weren't there.

'Course I was.

I remember.
We... It was a great day.

Sure. Okay.

Look.

I've got to go.

I have trial prep,

and I promised
Nate dinner, so...

You know Fisher's lawyer
is gonna use this case

to franchise himself,
just like Johnnie Cochran?

Hey, if I wasn't there,
then who took this?

It wasn't your mother.

She gets seasick
at the beach.

No, you're right.
It wasn't Mom.

I took this.
I was there.

Who else?

Right?

I don't know, Dad.

You're the detective.

Frankly, I think Kershaw's
gonna be a real star.

You got to remember, he is 21

years old, the youngest
Dodger pitcher

since Sandy Koufax
to strike out 13 or more

batters in a game,
and that was last April.

Yeah, but what about
the postseason?

What about it? He pitched great
against the Cardinals--

an extremely strong outing.

And choked against the Phillies.

They should have won that game,
and he fell apart.

I wouldn't say he fell apart.

Please. You could see it
in his eyes.

He didn't have the guts.

Now, that's kind of
harsh, Frankie.

You're talking about
a 21-year-old...

On March 10, 1983,

Chris Keller, a drug addict

who came to see my parents
as a source of income...

...stabbed and
murdered my mom.And you found her

like that?

She was still breathing.

Yeah.
I called the ambulance.

I... I tried to save her.But then you were arrested?

I mean, I was high.
I had long hair.

At the time, so did half the
17-year-old boys in California.

No, yeah, I mean,
and when you think about it,

all it takes is one corrupt
detective, and-and you're done.

For life.

I mean, it happens
every day.

You know,
it happens to...

to people, you know,

people a lot less
privileged than me.

But it didn't stop there.
That detective...

Dave Russell.

He lied.
He faked evidence.

A- And the letter.

He wrote the parole
board years later.

He really had it in for you.

Yeah.
Yeah, he did.

Why?

Why did he go to such great
lengths to keep you in prison?

It's... it's a tough one,
you know?

I mean, I've had...
27 years to think about it.

You know?
I mean, that...

that letter, I mean,
I... it was...

it was my first parole hearing.

You know, nobody gets paroled
their first time,

and-and he knew that, so...

Why?

Right?
Why'd he write it?

I still don't get it.

Rock on!

Can I have your autograph?

Can I help you?

Yeah. Sorry.

Um...

I,

I used to live here.

I like what you've done with it.

It's, um...

it's nice.

My husband's coming home any
second, and we're going out...

Sure.
No, I'm-I'm sorry.

I didn't mean to disturb you.
I was just...

taking a look.

Thanks.

Hey, pal.

Hey, buddy.

What? What?
I got you.

I got you. Here.

Just-just hold him right there.

I think it's time
for his nap.

No, no.

Eric.

Eric?

Okay, Mary, look over here.

Mary.
Mary, look at the camera.

Come on, dear.

Look at the camera.

Aren't you happy?

Aren't you happy,
Mary?