Deadly Possessions (2016–…): Season 1, Episode 2 - Episode #1.2 - full transcript
There was a massacre.
That's very abnormal.
That's great to hear.
17 people have been killed.
This will literally
wake up the dead.
One of us is going to die.
My life has become
a living hell.
This is awesome.
It's alive!
Since I was a young boy,
I've been collecting
haunted artifacts,
drawn to the dark and mysterious
energy they carry.
The Manson murders
will go down as
one the most heinous crimes
of all time.
Through my career
as a paranormal investigator,
I've been able
to build my collection.
Now I'm building a museum....
The Conjure Chest
is one of the deadliest
haunted artifacts
- in existence.
- Robert the Doll
has affected
thousands of people.
...And providing a place
for people
to bring their haunted items
and hear their stories.
We aid people
into coming into the world.
Why can't we aid them
in exiting the world?
These are my deadly possessions.
Since opening the museum,
more people are coming in
from all over the world
with items that have been
creating chaos in their lives,
too dangerous to throw away.
So they bring them here
for help.
- Hello.
- Hi.
- How are you doing, man?
- Hey, how are you?
- What's your name?
- Eric.
What's going on?
I bought this last rites box
at a auction.
I took it home.
And two days later,
my life has become
a living hell with it.
When you got it back home,
how did you start connecting
two and two together
that this item is
the source of bad things
that started
happening in your life?
Everything was fine.
I brought this home.
Two days later, I was asleep
in the middle of the night.
I was awoken.
I heard something dra--
It sounded like something
was dragging across the floor.
- In your house?
- Yes, sir.
I went upstairs, looked around,
didn't see anything.
Nothing was out of the ordinary.
Nothing had been moved.
I shrugged it off,
turned the light off,
went back to bed.
- Was this upstairs?
- Yes, sir.
- It was?
- It was.
Later that night,
I heard something that sounded
like somebody was talking.
Did it ever climax
into something more severe?
A shadow.
Shadow figure?
It was a humanoid-type figure.
As I came up the stairs,
I immediately... I mean,
just froze me in my tracks.
I didn't know what it was.
I couldn't explain it.
And all this stuff happened
how long after you got this?
- Two days.
- Two days?
- Two days.
- Okay.
So why are you bringing
this here right now?
Because I want to get rid of it.
I don't want it in my house.
I can't sleep.
Are you okay
if we open it right now
just so I can inspect it?
Yes.
Mom, do you want to open it?
- Sure.
- Just slowly.
- It's lovely.
- Wow. Holy cow.
Do you know any background
about this, Mom?
Like you mentioned,
it's a last rites box, correct?
- That's what was explained to me.
- Okay.
What is a last rites box?
When someone's dying,
they will bring it in.
And the priest will come in.
And they'll put the candles in
and at their bedside.
It's more like a portable altar
coming over to the bedside.
Well, it's intriguing enough
that I want to observe it,
you know?
- I appreciate it.
Okay, transferring it
over to us,
I think that's
it was a smart thing.
So thank you very much.
- Thank you.
- Yeah, man.
I'm Trevor Jones.
I'm Director
of Historical Resources
at the Kentucky Historical
Society
here in Frankfort, Kentucky.
This is home
of the Conjure Chest,
allegedly one of the most
deadly haunted artifacts
in the world.
This is a real Kentucky story.
These were really Kentuckians.
We heard about Zak's museum.
And we're interested
in taking this chest
out to Las Vegas
to learn what he can tell us
about the paranormal aspects
of this story
and maybe provide some answers
about this iconic item.
Welcome.
A chest of drawers.
Is this the Conjure Chest?
This is the Conjure Chest.
Wow.
Holy cow. Let me --
let me absorb this for a moment.
I know a little bit
about this chest.
So I'm hoping that you can
fill me in on the history
and why it does have
the reputation
as being one of the most
deadliest objects in the world.
I'll tell you the story.
There was a slave owner
named Jacob Cooley.
He had a slave who he
commissioned to make this chest
between 1830 and 1840
for the occasion
of his son's birth.
Cooley was a cruel man.
And he wasn't happy with
the construction of this piece.
And he beat the slave...
...to death.
And in revenge,
the rest of the slaves
on his plantation
put a curse on the chest
so that the family
would be forever cursed.
This goes back pre-Civil War
in the 1800s?
This is probably made
about between 1830 and 1840.
Even without a curse,
this is a very nice piece
of Kentucky...
- Even without a curse?
- Even without a curse,
This is a very nice piece
of Kentu...
It feel like
I'm on "Antiques Roadshow."
- ...Kentucky-made furniture.
- I'm on the evil version of...
- Yeah!
- ...Of "Antiques Roadshow" here.
So even though
he kills this slave,
beats him to death
just because
he didn't like this,
he still displayed the chest
in his house?
Yes.
The chest stayed in the house.
And the son's
newborn baby clothes
were put inside it.
And the son perished.
How long after he was born?
That's unclear from the story.
But fairly shortly,
it sounds like,
in the story, yeah.
So from that death,
17 people have either been
killed, seriously injured...
...because of this chest?
Okay.
So this chest
has been at your museum
for how long?
So it was given to us
by the family in 1976.
In 1976?
- It came into the museum at that time.
- Okay.
All right, right now,
we're gonna be bringing out
a member of the family.
it was her mother
that donated the chest
to the historical museum.
So I felt it was right
to cover the chest
before she comes out
just because of the curse
that this chest carried
through her family.
So let's bring her out.
Don't be afraid.
Come on in.
Please watch your step there.
- I will.
- Hi, how are you?
- Hi.
- Please sit down.
Beverly, we recovered the chest.
It's there?
God.
Okay. Yeah.
- Is that okay?
- Yeah.
When is the last time
you saw -- seen the chest?
I saw it in the mid-'70s.
Do you believe that this chest
killed members of your family?
Yes.
I was always afraid of it.
I mean, before I understood
exactly what the story was,
I was afraid of it as a child
because I knew
that it was associated
with death in my family.
So your family
told you this as a child?
-Yes, my mother, yeah.
- She did?
- Yeah.
Why did she keep it
next to your room,
down the hall?
I think her reasons
were complex.
It's certainly historical.
It goes back to sometime
in the early 1800s.
And someone she loved died
in order to take off
the conjure.
I don't think she wanted
to discard that piece of it,
Because of the loved one's
sacrifice, their life...
- Yes, exactly. She did.
- ...To reverse the curse?
Yes. And also,
I don't think
she would turn it loose.
I mean, imagine putting it out
on the curb,
knowing that someone
might put items in it
and then die.
She felt that it needed
to be preserved
but to be kept away
from innocent people
in a place
that would make it very clear
that it wasn't to be used.
Sally said,
"One of us is going to die."
The Conjure Chest
is one of the most deadly
objects in the world.
Beverly Kienzle,
a Harvard professor,
is giving me intimate details
about her family's history
with this cursed antique.
This person that lost her life
as a sacrifice
trying to reverse
the curse of this chest,
did that person participate
in the ritual?
Yes, she did it.
That would be Sally
who worked for the family
and my mother and my aunt.
And Sally's
holding tight to them,
as she always did.
After 16 victims,
my grandmother said,
"Sally, do you know
how to take off a conjure?"
And she said,
"Why, yes, I do."
And so she went
through the instructions.
The first thing was,
they needed an owl.
But the owl
had to be brought by a friend.
And then they needed
leaves from a willow tree.
But again, the willow tree
had to have been planted
by a friend.
There had to be a leaf
for every victim.
And then they were boiled.
And that liquid
was poured into a jug.
And the jug was planted
underneath a flowering tree
with the handle pointed
to the east...
Jeez.
...Because the east
is hope in Christianity.
It's resurrection.
So they planted the jug.
And then Sally
said to my grandmother,
"One of us is going to die
when the leaves fall off
the flowering lilac."
In October 1946,
Sally suddenly died,
and the Conjure Chest
claimed its 17th victim.
What you can't do
is put the possession
of anyone who's living
inside the chest.
So you wouldn't
put your jacket in...
No.
...This chest?
No. I would expect to be dead
if I did.
I mean, not dead on the spot.
Usually I'm really, really,
really freaked out
by dolls and stuff.
But a piece of furniture --
like, this is
taking the cake right now.
If you're gonna put this in
a real historical perspective,
- whether or not you believe the curse is real or not...
- Right.
This piece comes out of a time
when White Kentuckians
were very, very afraid
of their slaves
because they could
rise up against them.
You're oppressing these people.
- So this fear of a voodoo curse or a hoodoo curse...
- Yeah.
...or whatever
you want to call it,
is a really standard fear
that 19th century
white Americans have
of the power
of African American slaves.
As I'm listening to Trevor talk,
I can't help thinking
that I should put him
on the spot
and test his own fear
of this object.
If this chest has truly killed
as many people
as he and Beverly say,
then let's see how he'll react.
Would you take your jacket off,
put it in this chest?
No.
You wouldn't?
No.
This is typically the moment
where I ask you permission
to perform
some type of investigation
or experiment on here.
But for once,
I can't say anything.
Knowing the family's testimony
for the things that happened,
it's just too real, you know?
It's just too real.
I was especially increasingly,
shall we say, freaked out
when I found the accounts
of the deaths of three people
that matched exactly
what my grandmother said.
And if I could tell you
one more thing.
There were things
that my father said.
I can remember
this conversation,
him talking about my mother,
saying over the chest,
"I see them
coming out of there."
- The deceased family members?
- Yes!
- Their spirits?
- Yes!
- Jeez.
- I know.
So it's as if
the curse of the chest
has trapped them to the chest.
Yeah.
Do you believe that when Sally,
the conjurer
that reversed the curse,
when she sacrificed her life,
the spirits of your ancestors,
your family members, were free?
That's what
she wanted to happen.
Do you want to see it?
I'll look at it,
but I won't open the drawer
myself.
Is that okay?
Yeah, let me start with
something that I know I will do.
Is that -- that's okay?
- You sure?
- Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
God, there it is.
Yes.
My.
I remember it well.
So what my mother would do
would be
to turn those handles...
- Beverly, don't touch it.
- No, I won't.
I'm just gonna gesture
to the inside.
I would discourage anybody
from opening it.
Let's get --
can we get Trevor back?
Theodore, can you get Trevor,
please?
Trevor, we neither of us
want to open the drawer.
Okay.
- Okay, so can you please open the drawer?
- Sure.
As the drawers opened,
the owl feathers
that are part of the ritual
that killed Sally are visible.
Trevor, if you could please
step aside.
Beverly, please go have a look.
Yeah, that's where it was.
This is my mother's writing
here.
This is, I think,
my grandmother's writing.
That would hold up from your
mother's letter to us in 1976.
- Is that what she said?
- Yes.
How do you feel,
looking and reading the writing
of your grandmother
and mother and --
Well, it's eerie.
Do you feel anything
with the drawer open?
Well, it --
it's a little creepy, yeah.
- Do you feel wind?
- Wind?
- It got cold in here.
- Yeah.
- Do you feel that coldness?
- I do, yeah.
It's moving.
- The air is, like --
- I do feel cold air.
I felt, like, wind.
Why don't you
please close the drawer?
Okay. Happy to do so.
- Um, Beverly, um...
- Yes?
- Thank you for coming out here.
- You're welcome.
I have one more question...
One more request, if you will.
Um, you gave me a detail
about all these spirits
being seen coming up out of it.
Would we be able to do, like,
a mini investigation
with the chest,
do some measurements of
electromagnetic fields?
If you even wanted
to be a part of it,
I'd like you to be a part of it,
if you would like.
Well, I have to think about it
for a minute.
- Okay.
- Yeah.
We're testing for
electromagnetic energy.
Whoa.
- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
- No!
The Conjure Chest is responsible
for killing several
of Beverly's family members
and someone very close
to the family.
Today is the first time
she has seen the deadly antique
in over 40 years.
Due to its horrific history,
she's hesitant to participate
in an investigation.
- All right, Beverly. You decided to participate.
- I did.
- No hesitation?
- No.
- Okay, good.
- No.
It's not every day
- that we have the Conjure Chest here.
- Right.
So we just want to take
advantage of this situation
and see if there is
any energy around it,
see if the spirit of Sally
is trapped within it --
which I really hope she's not --
or any spirits of your
past family members.
I ask Aaron and Jay to
assist with the investigation.
To do this investigation,
I think we should open
the top drawer up.
Jay, you'll open it.
- Why not?
- Go ahead, Jay.
There's a lot of reasons
why not.
Why don't you open
the top drawer?
- All right.
- And let's begin.
Okay.
That's good.
Real alpha there.
Okay, I need a camera over here
to see the screen of this.
What's it doing?
We're testing
for electromagnetic energy.
High, unexplained spikes
of electromagnetic energy
could indicate
the presence of spirits.
On the feathers?
No. Over towards this side
specifically.
Whoa.
Ooh.
But the readings are normal
until I move the device
near Beverly.
Whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
No!
My goodness.
That's very abnormal.
That's great to hear.
I mean...
That shouldn't be doing that.
There's a very high level
of electromagnetic energy
around Beverly.
The device should not be
spiking like this.
I now ask her to communicate
with the spirit
to find out if this energy
will react.
Beverly, can you ask if
there is something here?
Is there a spirit here?
This energy,
which we believe is a spirit,
is directly responding
to Beverly's questions.
Who is it?
Eliza?
Say a different name.
Sally?
It really reacted.
Say the other one before.
Eliza?
- Yeah.
- Wow.
This is reacting every time
you say, "Eliza."
Who's Eliza?
Eliza was my grandmother's
grandmother.
And there were six people
whose clothes went in the chest
while it was in her possession
who died, including herself.
She took her own life.
I now move the device over Jay,
and the readings vanish.
Beverly, look at this.
Do you see how around Jay,
there's no spikes?
- Do you see that?
- I do.
Mike, you getting that?
That's baseline.
Now, watch what happens
when I go around you.
- Whoa-ho.
- Whoa-ho.
Well, I hope this doesn't mean
that Eliza will be talking
to me tonight.
Look at that.
That's pegged.
I will now try to collect
visual evidence of this spirit
that is interacting
with Beverly.
What I'd like to do now is --
I think I should
get away from it.
I don't want to invoke fear.
I don't want to invoke
more fear.
But the drawer is open.
Yeah.
We have done some things
to try to wake it up,
if you will.
Can you stand near it?
And I just want to take some
pictures of you by yourself
With the full-spectrum camera.
- Sure.
- Jay, come here.
Can you maybe read
some of the writing
that your grandmother
and your mother wrote?
And we're gonna take some photos
with the full spectrum.
"Owl's feathers
to scare away spirits,
so let's hope
they're still doing it.
This is going to
the Kentucky Historical Society
at the old capitol building
in Frankfort, Kentucky."
Whoa, what was that?
As Jay rapidly snaps
full-spectrum photos,
I notice a strange anomaly
on the far right-hand side.
There's you, you, you...
What's the yellow?
We don't know.
This oddly shaped anomaly
hovers over
Beverly's right shoulder.
And it only appears
in one of the photos.
What was that?
Yeah, right?
What was that?
- It was this...
- That's where this thing is.
As we are viewing
an unexplainable image
captured on
the full-spectrum camera,
we all hear a tapping sound
from the metal candelabra
right where this unexplained
light anomaly manifested.
What was that?
Yeah, right?
What was that?
Yeah, right?
Is there a connection
between the anomaly
we just captured
and the unexplainable sound that
we all heard with our own ears?
- It sounded like that was being tapped.
- Right.
Yeah.
I heard that tap.
Is this what you heard?
Something like that.
That would have been
right over your left shoulder.
Where's the candles?
Was it --
You're in front of
the candle, actually.
So just watch over right
here, right beneath the six.
Watch there. You see,
there's nothing there.
There's nothing there,
nothing there,
And then something shows up
right there.
See that?
Good lord.
What?
It looks like...
- It -- it looks...
- It does look like an owl!
It has the body
roundness, and that's the head.
It looks like an owl.
It looks like an owl.
Jeez.
Dude, I got chills.
- Yeah.
- It does.
The curse was broken
by owl feathers,
which remain in a top drawer
of the chest.
Is this anomaly an owl?
Or are we just matrixing it
to be?
Could it be a spirit
of one of the victims
that was giving us strong
EMF spikes around Beverly?
Whoa.
- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
- No!
What we do have to realize
is that we took a succession
of several other photos
in that same spot,
and this anomaly
never appeared again.
Why don't we open it up
and see what's inside?
I'm not gonna open it.
You open it.
Why can't you open it, sir?
Don't ask me that question.
I'm not gonna open it.
A strange man
carrying a briefcase
shows up at the museum
and asks
if he can speak with me.
I have no idea
what this is about.
And the exciting part
is I never know.
Whoa.
How you doing?
- Hey. How are you?
Good.
Please put the object
on the table
and have a seat.
- Yeah, sure.
- Yeah.
- You're Zak?
- Yes.
- Robert.
- How you doing?
Yeah, good.
So what's the story
with the briefcase?
What I have is, I have
a little something in the case.
Now, the case is not haunted.
But what is inside...
Well, why don't we open it up
and see what's inside?
I'm not gonna open it.
You open it.
Why can't you open it, sir?
Don't ask me that question.
I'm not gonna open it.
Theodore, can you please
open the case, please?
What's wrong?
What's in it?
- Pictures, sir.
- That's it?
It's what's in the picture.
Looks like mobsters,
ready to kill a bunch of people.
Can I see?
Yes.
Cool.
Looks like the
Saint Valentine's Day Massacre.
Matter of fact, it is the
Saint Valentine's Day Massacre.
Cool. So is there a gun in there
or something?
No, no, no,
don't worry about anything else.
Just, the photo's enough for you
right now.
Now, listen to me.
Actual photo
of what happened back then
at the time in Chicago.
I'm familiar with that.
Yeah, well, you should be.
And I'm gonna familiarize you
a little bit more.
Okay.
Over at the Mob Museum
here in Las Vegas,
we have a piece of the wall
from the Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre.
The actual wall?
What, did I stutter?
I just said we had
a piece of the wall.
Not only that,
there's bullet holes
that are in it
from the shooting.
So it's the actual wall?
What, are you
gonna interrupt me?
Yeah, the actual wall.
And there's also the gun
that was used in the crime.
The gun that was used
to kill people?
And the only reason
I brought this over to you today
is because there's
some paranormal activity
going on at the Mob Museum.
And I think it has to do
with this photo,
with that wall at that museum.
And I think it's something
you need to check out.
Okay. Do we have permission
to go there?
Don't worry about it.
It's taken care of.
You just tell 'em
Bobby sent you.
It's fine.
You go. You see.
You will feel what's going on.
- You check it out for yourself.
- Okay.
- All right.
- Thank you.
It's been a pleasure.
Yeah, yeah, all right.
Thank you.
I'm usually scared of objects,
but I was terrified of this man.
I'm trying to figure out
if he's the real thing
or if he's an actor
from the Mob Museum.
Was this planned?
Even if Bobby is an actor,
the Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre was very real.
I've always been fascinated
with mob history.
So I'm excited to investigate --
one museum to the other.
Wow.
What's your name, sir?
Geoff.
Geoff, is this
the original brick wall
from the Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre?
Yes.
These are the bricks
that were in the wall,
against which the guys
were shot down.
These are actual examples
of where bullets hit the wall.
How many mobsters got killed?
Seven.
And wasn't this arranged
by Al Capone?
Al Capone was never
convicted of it.
and neither were any of his men.
But historians widely believe
that he was behind it.
We investigated
Eastern State Penitentiary,
and Al Capone
was incarcerated there.
The guards claimed
that Al Capone was haunted
by one of the victims
that was shot against this wall.
It's amazing, in our journeys,
how everything connects together
from our investigations.
You can just feel the energy
around this wall.
- This is...
- Yeah.
This is absolutely awesome.
Al Capone controlled
most of the bootlegging
in Chicago
and much of the upper Midwest,
getting alcohol and then
selling it during Prohibition.
But he had this foe,
this enemy, this rival
named Bugs Moran.
Al Capone's gang
and Bugs Moran's gang
were constantly
at each other's throats.
They were rivals?
They were rivals.
And the newspapers called it
the Beer Wars.
What happened is
these guys dressed up
as police officers.
- Who did?
- The assailants.
They came to the scene
in a police car,
- so these guys...
- What?
...thought it was
a typical shakedown, right?
They agreed to line up
against the wall...
- Ho. Gosh.
- ...so that, presumably,
they could be shaken down
for whatever.
They whip out the tommy guns,
and they blast away.
One guy actually survived
the massacre for a short time.
So when the authorities
came to the scene,
he can barely talk, he's dying.
But he's -- long enough to say
that cops killed them
'cause he believed
they were cops.
- They got away with it?
- They got away with it.
No one was ever convicted
of that crime.
There was a massacre.
And all of that is just
a memory right now.
It's history.
But standing right next to us
is a brick wall
that still has all that energy
stored into this wall.
Does that gun have anything
to do with the massacre?
That tommy gun is believed
to have been owned
by Machine Gun Jack McGurn,
Al Capone's right-hand man.
It was suspected
that he had masterminded
the Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre.
Wait, the guy who owned that gun
masterminded this massacre?
That is a leading theory.
Can you take the gun out?
I can take it out.
And we can set it down
on a table
and take a look at it.
Really?
This is just incredibly awesome.
I can't really hold it
very long.
- Whoa! It's just --
- Yeah, you don't want to...
I just realized I was standing
in the line of fire.
- Yes.
- Can you imagine that? Zak Bagans...
- You see, I'm not an expert.
- ...Gone!
But you can see that this was
a brutal weapon.
I mean, it was
not intended to be
a weapon that was accurate.
It was mass carnage.
So can I -- can I hold it?
- You cannot hold it unfortunately.
- I can't. Okay.
That's fine.
Can I put a glove on
and touch it with a finger?
You can touch it with a finger.
Can I touch the trigger?
You can.
You ready? Get this.
Zoom in, guys.
Zoom in. Ready?
- While I'm not allowed to hold Jack McGurn's gun...
- Wow.
...I am allowed to touch
the very trigger
where his finger
may have sent countless mobsters
to their graves.
Can I keep the gun --
no, I mean...
...Can I keep the glove?
Sure. Sure.
Man, how you been?
I haven't seen you for a little while.
You're gonna love what I did
with this car.
Yeah, I got McLovin
wiping it down for you.
Boom! Holy ****
Look at that!
Exactly.
We're at the Mob Museum
in Las Vegas,
learning about the dark history
surrounding
the actual brick wall
that seven men were
shot to death in front of
during the Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre.
We are told apparitions
of the massacre
are seen near the wall
frequently.
The museum had just closed.
So I was walking through
to make sure everybody was out.
And nobody was here.
As soon as I continued
following him
and went around the corner
just like he did,
he disappeared.
This is the first time
anyone has investigated
at the Mob Museum.
And I'm extremely curious to see
if there's any
residual negative energy.
Okay, right now, we are going to
begin our investigation.
And I have
two different recorders.
And these have
little microphones on them
- with suction cups.
- Cool.
So I want to put
the suction cups
on the Plexiglass over the wall
and over Jack McGurn's gun.
Because you have seen
apparitions,
I want to see if this is just
a residual haunting
or if there are
intelligent spirits here.
Place the suction cup
on the Plexiglass
over one of the bullet holes.
Aaron, while we do this,
- take readings with the EMF detector...
- Okay.
- ...and see if we get any spikes near us.
- Okay.
If you rustle any clothing,
whispers, or anything like that,
say it out loud
so we mark the recorder.
I'm now gonna take the other one
and put it right here,
right over Jack McGurn's gun.
All right,
on the count of three,
I want you to hit record.
One, two, three.
And we're gonna alternate.
You're gonna ask a question.
I'm gonna ask a question.
Jack McGurn, are you here?
Are you the man that many people
have seen here?
Is any one of the seven men
that died on this wall
here with us?
Do you have anything to say
about what happened?
How's the EMF?
- Nothing's happening.
- Baseline?
- Base.
- I don't feel anything.
And while I'm trying to get
intelligent responses
from spirits,
these microphones could be
picking up stored information,
stored emotions
into these items.
So we may be getting voices,
screams, whatever,
that we may not be hearing.
Did you haunt Al Capone
in his jail cell
at Eastern State Penitentiary?
Are you here now?
Was one of these bullet holes
the ones that killed you?
Can you please come to us
in this room
if you are a victim of the
Saint Valentine's Day Massacre?
Anything that you can do
to give us a sign
that you hear us and see us?
I feel, like, pretty cold
right now, right here.
Are you?
On your left side?
Aaron, go do EMF
on her left shoulder.
It's at a 0.1.
And it did jump
to 0.3 real quick.
Did it?
But now it's back
to 0.1.
So you had a little spike.
Little spike.
Ask if somebody is there
and if they touched you.
Is somebody here?
Did you just touch my arm?
Are you angry that your killers
were never caught?
Jack McGurn, are you here,
wanting your gun back?
All right.
Let's stop.
So can you tell me real quick,
what did you feel in that moment
that it --
You said your shoulder
went cold or something.
It felt like somebody
was just petting me
on the arm like this
and saying, like,
"I'm here."
Really?
But it didn't feel negative.
It didn't feel, like,
demonic or negative energy.
Well, it was interesting.
We did get a spike
on the EMF detector
in the same exact area.
So we'll check the recordings
and see if you got a message
In that moment as well.
So thank you.
Good job.
Although there didn't appear
to be severe paranormal activity
here at the Mob Museum,
we won't know for sure
until we get to analyze
our EVP session.
While Billy
goes through the evidence,
I'm taking Aaron to check out
something my buddy, S.J.,
has been working on.
We're at my friend
S.J.'s, body shop,
Elite Audio and Customs.
All these people are bringing us
all these haunted objects.
It's time to showcase
one of my haunted objects.
So right here,
I have not seen this object
since I bought it
about three months ago.
- It's been here...
- What is it?
...at the body shop,
getting completely redone.
It is haunted.
And I figured with all
these interviews that we have,
and we're running around town
here in Vegas,
meeting other people,
further enhancing
our interviews,
we need an official car.
Ooh!
We need an official car
for this show.
Ooh!
If something ever happens to me,
I want this thing
to take me to my funeral.
- What?
- I'm just saying. It's a clue.
You got it?
You got it?
Come here.
Follow me.
What's up, man?
Zak, what's up, man?
How you been?
Haven't seen you for
a little while.
You're gonna love what I did
with this car.
Yeah, I got McLovin
wiping it down for you.
Boom!
Holy **** Look at that!
- Exactly how you wanted it, my man.
- Yes!
- Awesome!
- Yes, yes, yes!
♪ Do you see
other dead people? ♪
This is me!
Got the matte black paint,
a custom interior.
Damn!
Got the red velvet.
Man, that is sick.
When I bought this thing,
this dash
was completely destroyed --
holes in it, tears.
Why is it smoking?
Why's there smoke coming out?
Well, we got the fog machine
coming in there for you, so...
You got a fog machine in here?
You can't have a Deathmobile
without the fog.
Without the fog --
matching the coffin sub box.
Holy ****
- This will literally wake up the dead.
- Looking good.
That is a coffin
with speakers in it.
I'm gonna hire this thing out.
If you or a loved one
need a funeral, call me.
And I will take you.
And you will ride...
We'll put the body
on top of the speakers.
Best part is when you pull up,
and you lay this thing flat...
Whoa! ****
Yeah, I hear that.
Okay, yeah.
- Do you?
- Yeah.
That is creepy!
That is sick!
I'm at my buddy S.J.'s body
shop
picking up the newest piece
of my collection,
a customized hearse.
Whoa! ****
Jesus Christ, dude!
- Dude!
- Dude, that just scared the **** out of me!
- For sure.
- This thing has hydraulics.
That's cool -- a hearse that
will give you a heart attack.
- Can I try it?
- Yeah.
- Ho-ho!
- Whoa, sh...
- It's like Disneyland!
- Is it supposed to do that?
Whoa! Yeah!
Make it go up and down.
- Whoa! ****
- Whoa, look at that!
- Now bounce.
- It's alive!
- Bounce.
- It's alive!
- Dang.
- It's sick, dude.
It's like a possessed car.
S.J., you are the man.
Zak, man, thank you again.
You always do me right.
We appreciate everything.
You turned this
1966 Pontiac Hearse
into a beast.
- Did McLovin help you?
- With my trusty guy, McLovin.
Without McLovin,
we wouldn't have had juice
for the fog machine,
wiped down wheels,
and clean glass.
McLovin, there are times
that I may need a driver
for this.
- Would you be able to drive...
- Yes, sir.
Drive me around in this,
McLovin?
I would love to drive you
in this car.
This is sick.
I love it, S.J..
You've done a good job.
All right, We got to get back
to the museum, dude.
We got somebody on their way
right now.
But the most dangerous part
about this car is...
- Zak's behind the wheel!
- I'm behind the wheel.
And I'm co-pilot!
Watch out, Vegas!
Hey...
...You sure you should be
driving this thing?
God.
This is awesome.
Hit it!
Everybody on the road,
watch out,
'cause this car's
about to eat your soul.
Aaron and I head back to
the museum to meet with Teresa
to show her the evidence
Billy has found
from our Mob Museum
investigation.
- All right.
- How are you?
Good. How are you?
So Teresa,
it's good to see you again.
Good to see you, too.
You know, we did some
EVP sessions with you.
Honestly, I didn't think that
we would walk away
with anything.
I was a bit skeptical of that.
But after
Billy reviewed the audio,
- we received EVPs, electronic voice phenomena.
- Wow.
This was being picked up
by the suction-cup microphone
listening beyond that glass.
This was absolutely insane.
The moment
that this was captured,
we were being absolutely still.
Jack McGurn, are you here
wanting your gun back?
Billy, I want you to go ahead
and play it as it was captured
and then explain to us
what you did
in the enhanced version.
Sure.
Jack McGurn.
So here's what I did
to enhance it.
I slowed it down
so we can hear the enunciation
of whatever's being said.
All of this is EV...
Yeah, all of these,
you know, different spikes
of the waveform
is the EVP in question.
This is me saying,
"Jack McGurn."
Maybe you can understand
this sentence
and tell us what you think.
- Yeah, do you hear, like, "What is happening to"...
- Something.
Play that again.
Okay, "Help, I'm," cutting.
"What is happening to,"
or something.
- I just don't know what the word after help is.
- Right. "Help."
I hear, like,
"Help -- help, I'm," something.
"What is happening to."
It says, "Help, I'm injured.
- What's happening to me?"
- Let me hear it.
What if it says,
"Help, I'm dying.
What is happening to me?"
When they got shot,
your last thoughts, maybe
your last breath, is,
- "Help, I'm dying. What is happening to me?"
- Right.
- Yeah. I hear that.
- Okay. Yeah, I hear that.
- Do you?
- Yeah.
- That is creepy!
That is sick!
This may be one of the thoughts
of one of the victims
that is stored in that wall.
I'm happy.
I'm excited for this.
This was a great capture.
So I would just keep an eye
on that area
and keep us informed
if this spirit manifests himself
now that you've heard his voice.
- That's exciting.
- Are you okay?
Yeah.
After reviewing this,
I believe this is
place memory evidence,
meaning the residue
of that deadly massacre
has stored itself
into the bricks.
And at the right moment,
audio and visual presentations
can be heard and even seen.
However, because this response
also seemed to have
answered our questions,
it lends to the theory
that it could also be
an intelligent spirit
haunting the museum.
I'd love to do a second,
more thorough investigation
of the Mob Museum
in the near future.
That's very abnormal.
That's great to hear.
17 people have been killed.
This will literally
wake up the dead.
One of us is going to die.
My life has become
a living hell.
This is awesome.
It's alive!
Since I was a young boy,
I've been collecting
haunted artifacts,
drawn to the dark and mysterious
energy they carry.
The Manson murders
will go down as
one the most heinous crimes
of all time.
Through my career
as a paranormal investigator,
I've been able
to build my collection.
Now I'm building a museum....
The Conjure Chest
is one of the deadliest
haunted artifacts
- in existence.
- Robert the Doll
has affected
thousands of people.
...And providing a place
for people
to bring their haunted items
and hear their stories.
We aid people
into coming into the world.
Why can't we aid them
in exiting the world?
These are my deadly possessions.
Since opening the museum,
more people are coming in
from all over the world
with items that have been
creating chaos in their lives,
too dangerous to throw away.
So they bring them here
for help.
- Hello.
- Hi.
- How are you doing, man?
- Hey, how are you?
- What's your name?
- Eric.
What's going on?
I bought this last rites box
at a auction.
I took it home.
And two days later,
my life has become
a living hell with it.
When you got it back home,
how did you start connecting
two and two together
that this item is
the source of bad things
that started
happening in your life?
Everything was fine.
I brought this home.
Two days later, I was asleep
in the middle of the night.
I was awoken.
I heard something dra--
It sounded like something
was dragging across the floor.
- In your house?
- Yes, sir.
I went upstairs, looked around,
didn't see anything.
Nothing was out of the ordinary.
Nothing had been moved.
I shrugged it off,
turned the light off,
went back to bed.
- Was this upstairs?
- Yes, sir.
- It was?
- It was.
Later that night,
I heard something that sounded
like somebody was talking.
Did it ever climax
into something more severe?
A shadow.
Shadow figure?
It was a humanoid-type figure.
As I came up the stairs,
I immediately... I mean,
just froze me in my tracks.
I didn't know what it was.
I couldn't explain it.
And all this stuff happened
how long after you got this?
- Two days.
- Two days?
- Two days.
- Okay.
So why are you bringing
this here right now?
Because I want to get rid of it.
I don't want it in my house.
I can't sleep.
Are you okay
if we open it right now
just so I can inspect it?
Yes.
Mom, do you want to open it?
- Sure.
- Just slowly.
- It's lovely.
- Wow. Holy cow.
Do you know any background
about this, Mom?
Like you mentioned,
it's a last rites box, correct?
- That's what was explained to me.
- Okay.
What is a last rites box?
When someone's dying,
they will bring it in.
And the priest will come in.
And they'll put the candles in
and at their bedside.
It's more like a portable altar
coming over to the bedside.
Well, it's intriguing enough
that I want to observe it,
you know?
- I appreciate it.
Okay, transferring it
over to us,
I think that's
it was a smart thing.
So thank you very much.
- Thank you.
- Yeah, man.
I'm Trevor Jones.
I'm Director
of Historical Resources
at the Kentucky Historical
Society
here in Frankfort, Kentucky.
This is home
of the Conjure Chest,
allegedly one of the most
deadly haunted artifacts
in the world.
This is a real Kentucky story.
These were really Kentuckians.
We heard about Zak's museum.
And we're interested
in taking this chest
out to Las Vegas
to learn what he can tell us
about the paranormal aspects
of this story
and maybe provide some answers
about this iconic item.
Welcome.
A chest of drawers.
Is this the Conjure Chest?
This is the Conjure Chest.
Wow.
Holy cow. Let me --
let me absorb this for a moment.
I know a little bit
about this chest.
So I'm hoping that you can
fill me in on the history
and why it does have
the reputation
as being one of the most
deadliest objects in the world.
I'll tell you the story.
There was a slave owner
named Jacob Cooley.
He had a slave who he
commissioned to make this chest
between 1830 and 1840
for the occasion
of his son's birth.
Cooley was a cruel man.
And he wasn't happy with
the construction of this piece.
And he beat the slave...
...to death.
And in revenge,
the rest of the slaves
on his plantation
put a curse on the chest
so that the family
would be forever cursed.
This goes back pre-Civil War
in the 1800s?
This is probably made
about between 1830 and 1840.
Even without a curse,
this is a very nice piece
of Kentucky...
- Even without a curse?
- Even without a curse,
This is a very nice piece
of Kentu...
It feel like
I'm on "Antiques Roadshow."
- ...Kentucky-made furniture.
- I'm on the evil version of...
- Yeah!
- ...Of "Antiques Roadshow" here.
So even though
he kills this slave,
beats him to death
just because
he didn't like this,
he still displayed the chest
in his house?
Yes.
The chest stayed in the house.
And the son's
newborn baby clothes
were put inside it.
And the son perished.
How long after he was born?
That's unclear from the story.
But fairly shortly,
it sounds like,
in the story, yeah.
So from that death,
17 people have either been
killed, seriously injured...
...because of this chest?
Okay.
So this chest
has been at your museum
for how long?
So it was given to us
by the family in 1976.
In 1976?
- It came into the museum at that time.
- Okay.
All right, right now,
we're gonna be bringing out
a member of the family.
it was her mother
that donated the chest
to the historical museum.
So I felt it was right
to cover the chest
before she comes out
just because of the curse
that this chest carried
through her family.
So let's bring her out.
Don't be afraid.
Come on in.
Please watch your step there.
- I will.
- Hi, how are you?
- Hi.
- Please sit down.
Beverly, we recovered the chest.
It's there?
God.
Okay. Yeah.
- Is that okay?
- Yeah.
When is the last time
you saw -- seen the chest?
I saw it in the mid-'70s.
Do you believe that this chest
killed members of your family?
Yes.
I was always afraid of it.
I mean, before I understood
exactly what the story was,
I was afraid of it as a child
because I knew
that it was associated
with death in my family.
So your family
told you this as a child?
-Yes, my mother, yeah.
- She did?
- Yeah.
Why did she keep it
next to your room,
down the hall?
I think her reasons
were complex.
It's certainly historical.
It goes back to sometime
in the early 1800s.
And someone she loved died
in order to take off
the conjure.
I don't think she wanted
to discard that piece of it,
Because of the loved one's
sacrifice, their life...
- Yes, exactly. She did.
- ...To reverse the curse?
Yes. And also,
I don't think
she would turn it loose.
I mean, imagine putting it out
on the curb,
knowing that someone
might put items in it
and then die.
She felt that it needed
to be preserved
but to be kept away
from innocent people
in a place
that would make it very clear
that it wasn't to be used.
Sally said,
"One of us is going to die."
The Conjure Chest
is one of the most deadly
objects in the world.
Beverly Kienzle,
a Harvard professor,
is giving me intimate details
about her family's history
with this cursed antique.
This person that lost her life
as a sacrifice
trying to reverse
the curse of this chest,
did that person participate
in the ritual?
Yes, she did it.
That would be Sally
who worked for the family
and my mother and my aunt.
And Sally's
holding tight to them,
as she always did.
After 16 victims,
my grandmother said,
"Sally, do you know
how to take off a conjure?"
And she said,
"Why, yes, I do."
And so she went
through the instructions.
The first thing was,
they needed an owl.
But the owl
had to be brought by a friend.
And then they needed
leaves from a willow tree.
But again, the willow tree
had to have been planted
by a friend.
There had to be a leaf
for every victim.
And then they were boiled.
And that liquid
was poured into a jug.
And the jug was planted
underneath a flowering tree
with the handle pointed
to the east...
Jeez.
...Because the east
is hope in Christianity.
It's resurrection.
So they planted the jug.
And then Sally
said to my grandmother,
"One of us is going to die
when the leaves fall off
the flowering lilac."
In October 1946,
Sally suddenly died,
and the Conjure Chest
claimed its 17th victim.
What you can't do
is put the possession
of anyone who's living
inside the chest.
So you wouldn't
put your jacket in...
No.
...This chest?
No. I would expect to be dead
if I did.
I mean, not dead on the spot.
Usually I'm really, really,
really freaked out
by dolls and stuff.
But a piece of furniture --
like, this is
taking the cake right now.
If you're gonna put this in
a real historical perspective,
- whether or not you believe the curse is real or not...
- Right.
This piece comes out of a time
when White Kentuckians
were very, very afraid
of their slaves
because they could
rise up against them.
You're oppressing these people.
- So this fear of a voodoo curse or a hoodoo curse...
- Yeah.
...or whatever
you want to call it,
is a really standard fear
that 19th century
white Americans have
of the power
of African American slaves.
As I'm listening to Trevor talk,
I can't help thinking
that I should put him
on the spot
and test his own fear
of this object.
If this chest has truly killed
as many people
as he and Beverly say,
then let's see how he'll react.
Would you take your jacket off,
put it in this chest?
No.
You wouldn't?
No.
This is typically the moment
where I ask you permission
to perform
some type of investigation
or experiment on here.
But for once,
I can't say anything.
Knowing the family's testimony
for the things that happened,
it's just too real, you know?
It's just too real.
I was especially increasingly,
shall we say, freaked out
when I found the accounts
of the deaths of three people
that matched exactly
what my grandmother said.
And if I could tell you
one more thing.
There were things
that my father said.
I can remember
this conversation,
him talking about my mother,
saying over the chest,
"I see them
coming out of there."
- The deceased family members?
- Yes!
- Their spirits?
- Yes!
- Jeez.
- I know.
So it's as if
the curse of the chest
has trapped them to the chest.
Yeah.
Do you believe that when Sally,
the conjurer
that reversed the curse,
when she sacrificed her life,
the spirits of your ancestors,
your family members, were free?
That's what
she wanted to happen.
Do you want to see it?
I'll look at it,
but I won't open the drawer
myself.
Is that okay?
Yeah, let me start with
something that I know I will do.
Is that -- that's okay?
- You sure?
- Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
God, there it is.
Yes.
My.
I remember it well.
So what my mother would do
would be
to turn those handles...
- Beverly, don't touch it.
- No, I won't.
I'm just gonna gesture
to the inside.
I would discourage anybody
from opening it.
Let's get --
can we get Trevor back?
Theodore, can you get Trevor,
please?
Trevor, we neither of us
want to open the drawer.
Okay.
- Okay, so can you please open the drawer?
- Sure.
As the drawers opened,
the owl feathers
that are part of the ritual
that killed Sally are visible.
Trevor, if you could please
step aside.
Beverly, please go have a look.
Yeah, that's where it was.
This is my mother's writing
here.
This is, I think,
my grandmother's writing.
That would hold up from your
mother's letter to us in 1976.
- Is that what she said?
- Yes.
How do you feel,
looking and reading the writing
of your grandmother
and mother and --
Well, it's eerie.
Do you feel anything
with the drawer open?
Well, it --
it's a little creepy, yeah.
- Do you feel wind?
- Wind?
- It got cold in here.
- Yeah.
- Do you feel that coldness?
- I do, yeah.
It's moving.
- The air is, like --
- I do feel cold air.
I felt, like, wind.
Why don't you
please close the drawer?
Okay. Happy to do so.
- Um, Beverly, um...
- Yes?
- Thank you for coming out here.
- You're welcome.
I have one more question...
One more request, if you will.
Um, you gave me a detail
about all these spirits
being seen coming up out of it.
Would we be able to do, like,
a mini investigation
with the chest,
do some measurements of
electromagnetic fields?
If you even wanted
to be a part of it,
I'd like you to be a part of it,
if you would like.
Well, I have to think about it
for a minute.
- Okay.
- Yeah.
We're testing for
electromagnetic energy.
Whoa.
- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
- No!
The Conjure Chest is responsible
for killing several
of Beverly's family members
and someone very close
to the family.
Today is the first time
she has seen the deadly antique
in over 40 years.
Due to its horrific history,
she's hesitant to participate
in an investigation.
- All right, Beverly. You decided to participate.
- I did.
- No hesitation?
- No.
- Okay, good.
- No.
It's not every day
- that we have the Conjure Chest here.
- Right.
So we just want to take
advantage of this situation
and see if there is
any energy around it,
see if the spirit of Sally
is trapped within it --
which I really hope she's not --
or any spirits of your
past family members.
I ask Aaron and Jay to
assist with the investigation.
To do this investigation,
I think we should open
the top drawer up.
Jay, you'll open it.
- Why not?
- Go ahead, Jay.
There's a lot of reasons
why not.
Why don't you open
the top drawer?
- All right.
- And let's begin.
Okay.
That's good.
Real alpha there.
Okay, I need a camera over here
to see the screen of this.
What's it doing?
We're testing
for electromagnetic energy.
High, unexplained spikes
of electromagnetic energy
could indicate
the presence of spirits.
On the feathers?
No. Over towards this side
specifically.
Whoa.
Ooh.
But the readings are normal
until I move the device
near Beverly.
Whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
No!
My goodness.
That's very abnormal.
That's great to hear.
I mean...
That shouldn't be doing that.
There's a very high level
of electromagnetic energy
around Beverly.
The device should not be
spiking like this.
I now ask her to communicate
with the spirit
to find out if this energy
will react.
Beverly, can you ask if
there is something here?
Is there a spirit here?
This energy,
which we believe is a spirit,
is directly responding
to Beverly's questions.
Who is it?
Eliza?
Say a different name.
Sally?
It really reacted.
Say the other one before.
Eliza?
- Yeah.
- Wow.
This is reacting every time
you say, "Eliza."
Who's Eliza?
Eliza was my grandmother's
grandmother.
And there were six people
whose clothes went in the chest
while it was in her possession
who died, including herself.
She took her own life.
I now move the device over Jay,
and the readings vanish.
Beverly, look at this.
Do you see how around Jay,
there's no spikes?
- Do you see that?
- I do.
Mike, you getting that?
That's baseline.
Now, watch what happens
when I go around you.
- Whoa-ho.
- Whoa-ho.
Well, I hope this doesn't mean
that Eliza will be talking
to me tonight.
Look at that.
That's pegged.
I will now try to collect
visual evidence of this spirit
that is interacting
with Beverly.
What I'd like to do now is --
I think I should
get away from it.
I don't want to invoke fear.
I don't want to invoke
more fear.
But the drawer is open.
Yeah.
We have done some things
to try to wake it up,
if you will.
Can you stand near it?
And I just want to take some
pictures of you by yourself
With the full-spectrum camera.
- Sure.
- Jay, come here.
Can you maybe read
some of the writing
that your grandmother
and your mother wrote?
And we're gonna take some photos
with the full spectrum.
"Owl's feathers
to scare away spirits,
so let's hope
they're still doing it.
This is going to
the Kentucky Historical Society
at the old capitol building
in Frankfort, Kentucky."
Whoa, what was that?
As Jay rapidly snaps
full-spectrum photos,
I notice a strange anomaly
on the far right-hand side.
There's you, you, you...
What's the yellow?
We don't know.
This oddly shaped anomaly
hovers over
Beverly's right shoulder.
And it only appears
in one of the photos.
What was that?
Yeah, right?
What was that?
- It was this...
- That's where this thing is.
As we are viewing
an unexplainable image
captured on
the full-spectrum camera,
we all hear a tapping sound
from the metal candelabra
right where this unexplained
light anomaly manifested.
What was that?
Yeah, right?
What was that?
Yeah, right?
Is there a connection
between the anomaly
we just captured
and the unexplainable sound that
we all heard with our own ears?
- It sounded like that was being tapped.
- Right.
Yeah.
I heard that tap.
Is this what you heard?
Something like that.
That would have been
right over your left shoulder.
Where's the candles?
Was it --
You're in front of
the candle, actually.
So just watch over right
here, right beneath the six.
Watch there. You see,
there's nothing there.
There's nothing there,
nothing there,
And then something shows up
right there.
See that?
Good lord.
What?
It looks like...
- It -- it looks...
- It does look like an owl!
It has the body
roundness, and that's the head.
It looks like an owl.
It looks like an owl.
Jeez.
Dude, I got chills.
- Yeah.
- It does.
The curse was broken
by owl feathers,
which remain in a top drawer
of the chest.
Is this anomaly an owl?
Or are we just matrixing it
to be?
Could it be a spirit
of one of the victims
that was giving us strong
EMF spikes around Beverly?
Whoa.
- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!
- No!
What we do have to realize
is that we took a succession
of several other photos
in that same spot,
and this anomaly
never appeared again.
Why don't we open it up
and see what's inside?
I'm not gonna open it.
You open it.
Why can't you open it, sir?
Don't ask me that question.
I'm not gonna open it.
A strange man
carrying a briefcase
shows up at the museum
and asks
if he can speak with me.
I have no idea
what this is about.
And the exciting part
is I never know.
Whoa.
How you doing?
- Hey. How are you?
Good.
Please put the object
on the table
and have a seat.
- Yeah, sure.
- Yeah.
- You're Zak?
- Yes.
- Robert.
- How you doing?
Yeah, good.
So what's the story
with the briefcase?
What I have is, I have
a little something in the case.
Now, the case is not haunted.
But what is inside...
Well, why don't we open it up
and see what's inside?
I'm not gonna open it.
You open it.
Why can't you open it, sir?
Don't ask me that question.
I'm not gonna open it.
Theodore, can you please
open the case, please?
What's wrong?
What's in it?
- Pictures, sir.
- That's it?
It's what's in the picture.
Looks like mobsters,
ready to kill a bunch of people.
Can I see?
Yes.
Cool.
Looks like the
Saint Valentine's Day Massacre.
Matter of fact, it is the
Saint Valentine's Day Massacre.
Cool. So is there a gun in there
or something?
No, no, no,
don't worry about anything else.
Just, the photo's enough for you
right now.
Now, listen to me.
Actual photo
of what happened back then
at the time in Chicago.
I'm familiar with that.
Yeah, well, you should be.
And I'm gonna familiarize you
a little bit more.
Okay.
Over at the Mob Museum
here in Las Vegas,
we have a piece of the wall
from the Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre.
The actual wall?
What, did I stutter?
I just said we had
a piece of the wall.
Not only that,
there's bullet holes
that are in it
from the shooting.
So it's the actual wall?
What, are you
gonna interrupt me?
Yeah, the actual wall.
And there's also the gun
that was used in the crime.
The gun that was used
to kill people?
And the only reason
I brought this over to you today
is because there's
some paranormal activity
going on at the Mob Museum.
And I think it has to do
with this photo,
with that wall at that museum.
And I think it's something
you need to check out.
Okay. Do we have permission
to go there?
Don't worry about it.
It's taken care of.
You just tell 'em
Bobby sent you.
It's fine.
You go. You see.
You will feel what's going on.
- You check it out for yourself.
- Okay.
- All right.
- Thank you.
It's been a pleasure.
Yeah, yeah, all right.
Thank you.
I'm usually scared of objects,
but I was terrified of this man.
I'm trying to figure out
if he's the real thing
or if he's an actor
from the Mob Museum.
Was this planned?
Even if Bobby is an actor,
the Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre was very real.
I've always been fascinated
with mob history.
So I'm excited to investigate --
one museum to the other.
Wow.
What's your name, sir?
Geoff.
Geoff, is this
the original brick wall
from the Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre?
Yes.
These are the bricks
that were in the wall,
against which the guys
were shot down.
These are actual examples
of where bullets hit the wall.
How many mobsters got killed?
Seven.
And wasn't this arranged
by Al Capone?
Al Capone was never
convicted of it.
and neither were any of his men.
But historians widely believe
that he was behind it.
We investigated
Eastern State Penitentiary,
and Al Capone
was incarcerated there.
The guards claimed
that Al Capone was haunted
by one of the victims
that was shot against this wall.
It's amazing, in our journeys,
how everything connects together
from our investigations.
You can just feel the energy
around this wall.
- This is...
- Yeah.
This is absolutely awesome.
Al Capone controlled
most of the bootlegging
in Chicago
and much of the upper Midwest,
getting alcohol and then
selling it during Prohibition.
But he had this foe,
this enemy, this rival
named Bugs Moran.
Al Capone's gang
and Bugs Moran's gang
were constantly
at each other's throats.
They were rivals?
They were rivals.
And the newspapers called it
the Beer Wars.
What happened is
these guys dressed up
as police officers.
- Who did?
- The assailants.
They came to the scene
in a police car,
- so these guys...
- What?
...thought it was
a typical shakedown, right?
They agreed to line up
against the wall...
- Ho. Gosh.
- ...so that, presumably,
they could be shaken down
for whatever.
They whip out the tommy guns,
and they blast away.
One guy actually survived
the massacre for a short time.
So when the authorities
came to the scene,
he can barely talk, he's dying.
But he's -- long enough to say
that cops killed them
'cause he believed
they were cops.
- They got away with it?
- They got away with it.
No one was ever convicted
of that crime.
There was a massacre.
And all of that is just
a memory right now.
It's history.
But standing right next to us
is a brick wall
that still has all that energy
stored into this wall.
Does that gun have anything
to do with the massacre?
That tommy gun is believed
to have been owned
by Machine Gun Jack McGurn,
Al Capone's right-hand man.
It was suspected
that he had masterminded
the Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre.
Wait, the guy who owned that gun
masterminded this massacre?
That is a leading theory.
Can you take the gun out?
I can take it out.
And we can set it down
on a table
and take a look at it.
Really?
This is just incredibly awesome.
I can't really hold it
very long.
- Whoa! It's just --
- Yeah, you don't want to...
I just realized I was standing
in the line of fire.
- Yes.
- Can you imagine that? Zak Bagans...
- You see, I'm not an expert.
- ...Gone!
But you can see that this was
a brutal weapon.
I mean, it was
not intended to be
a weapon that was accurate.
It was mass carnage.
So can I -- can I hold it?
- You cannot hold it unfortunately.
- I can't. Okay.
That's fine.
Can I put a glove on
and touch it with a finger?
You can touch it with a finger.
Can I touch the trigger?
You can.
You ready? Get this.
Zoom in, guys.
Zoom in. Ready?
- While I'm not allowed to hold Jack McGurn's gun...
- Wow.
...I am allowed to touch
the very trigger
where his finger
may have sent countless mobsters
to their graves.
Can I keep the gun --
no, I mean...
...Can I keep the glove?
Sure. Sure.
Man, how you been?
I haven't seen you for a little while.
You're gonna love what I did
with this car.
Yeah, I got McLovin
wiping it down for you.
Boom! Holy ****
Look at that!
Exactly.
We're at the Mob Museum
in Las Vegas,
learning about the dark history
surrounding
the actual brick wall
that seven men were
shot to death in front of
during the Saint Valentine's Day
Massacre.
We are told apparitions
of the massacre
are seen near the wall
frequently.
The museum had just closed.
So I was walking through
to make sure everybody was out.
And nobody was here.
As soon as I continued
following him
and went around the corner
just like he did,
he disappeared.
This is the first time
anyone has investigated
at the Mob Museum.
And I'm extremely curious to see
if there's any
residual negative energy.
Okay, right now, we are going to
begin our investigation.
And I have
two different recorders.
And these have
little microphones on them
- with suction cups.
- Cool.
So I want to put
the suction cups
on the Plexiglass over the wall
and over Jack McGurn's gun.
Because you have seen
apparitions,
I want to see if this is just
a residual haunting
or if there are
intelligent spirits here.
Place the suction cup
on the Plexiglass
over one of the bullet holes.
Aaron, while we do this,
- take readings with the EMF detector...
- Okay.
- ...and see if we get any spikes near us.
- Okay.
If you rustle any clothing,
whispers, or anything like that,
say it out loud
so we mark the recorder.
I'm now gonna take the other one
and put it right here,
right over Jack McGurn's gun.
All right,
on the count of three,
I want you to hit record.
One, two, three.
And we're gonna alternate.
You're gonna ask a question.
I'm gonna ask a question.
Jack McGurn, are you here?
Are you the man that many people
have seen here?
Is any one of the seven men
that died on this wall
here with us?
Do you have anything to say
about what happened?
How's the EMF?
- Nothing's happening.
- Baseline?
- Base.
- I don't feel anything.
And while I'm trying to get
intelligent responses
from spirits,
these microphones could be
picking up stored information,
stored emotions
into these items.
So we may be getting voices,
screams, whatever,
that we may not be hearing.
Did you haunt Al Capone
in his jail cell
at Eastern State Penitentiary?
Are you here now?
Was one of these bullet holes
the ones that killed you?
Can you please come to us
in this room
if you are a victim of the
Saint Valentine's Day Massacre?
Anything that you can do
to give us a sign
that you hear us and see us?
I feel, like, pretty cold
right now, right here.
Are you?
On your left side?
Aaron, go do EMF
on her left shoulder.
It's at a 0.1.
And it did jump
to 0.3 real quick.
Did it?
But now it's back
to 0.1.
So you had a little spike.
Little spike.
Ask if somebody is there
and if they touched you.
Is somebody here?
Did you just touch my arm?
Are you angry that your killers
were never caught?
Jack McGurn, are you here,
wanting your gun back?
All right.
Let's stop.
So can you tell me real quick,
what did you feel in that moment
that it --
You said your shoulder
went cold or something.
It felt like somebody
was just petting me
on the arm like this
and saying, like,
"I'm here."
Really?
But it didn't feel negative.
It didn't feel, like,
demonic or negative energy.
Well, it was interesting.
We did get a spike
on the EMF detector
in the same exact area.
So we'll check the recordings
and see if you got a message
In that moment as well.
So thank you.
Good job.
Although there didn't appear
to be severe paranormal activity
here at the Mob Museum,
we won't know for sure
until we get to analyze
our EVP session.
While Billy
goes through the evidence,
I'm taking Aaron to check out
something my buddy, S.J.,
has been working on.
We're at my friend
S.J.'s, body shop,
Elite Audio and Customs.
All these people are bringing us
all these haunted objects.
It's time to showcase
one of my haunted objects.
So right here,
I have not seen this object
since I bought it
about three months ago.
- It's been here...
- What is it?
...at the body shop,
getting completely redone.
It is haunted.
And I figured with all
these interviews that we have,
and we're running around town
here in Vegas,
meeting other people,
further enhancing
our interviews,
we need an official car.
Ooh!
We need an official car
for this show.
Ooh!
If something ever happens to me,
I want this thing
to take me to my funeral.
- What?
- I'm just saying. It's a clue.
You got it?
You got it?
Come here.
Follow me.
What's up, man?
Zak, what's up, man?
How you been?
Haven't seen you for
a little while.
You're gonna love what I did
with this car.
Yeah, I got McLovin
wiping it down for you.
Boom!
Holy **** Look at that!
- Exactly how you wanted it, my man.
- Yes!
- Awesome!
- Yes, yes, yes!
♪ Do you see
other dead people? ♪
This is me!
Got the matte black paint,
a custom interior.
Damn!
Got the red velvet.
Man, that is sick.
When I bought this thing,
this dash
was completely destroyed --
holes in it, tears.
Why is it smoking?
Why's there smoke coming out?
Well, we got the fog machine
coming in there for you, so...
You got a fog machine in here?
You can't have a Deathmobile
without the fog.
Without the fog --
matching the coffin sub box.
Holy ****
- This will literally wake up the dead.
- Looking good.
That is a coffin
with speakers in it.
I'm gonna hire this thing out.
If you or a loved one
need a funeral, call me.
And I will take you.
And you will ride...
We'll put the body
on top of the speakers.
Best part is when you pull up,
and you lay this thing flat...
Whoa! ****
Yeah, I hear that.
Okay, yeah.
- Do you?
- Yeah.
That is creepy!
That is sick!
I'm at my buddy S.J.'s body
shop
picking up the newest piece
of my collection,
a customized hearse.
Whoa! ****
Jesus Christ, dude!
- Dude!
- Dude, that just scared the **** out of me!
- For sure.
- This thing has hydraulics.
That's cool -- a hearse that
will give you a heart attack.
- Can I try it?
- Yeah.
- Ho-ho!
- Whoa, sh...
- It's like Disneyland!
- Is it supposed to do that?
Whoa! Yeah!
Make it go up and down.
- Whoa! ****
- Whoa, look at that!
- Now bounce.
- It's alive!
- Bounce.
- It's alive!
- Dang.
- It's sick, dude.
It's like a possessed car.
S.J., you are the man.
Zak, man, thank you again.
You always do me right.
We appreciate everything.
You turned this
1966 Pontiac Hearse
into a beast.
- Did McLovin help you?
- With my trusty guy, McLovin.
Without McLovin,
we wouldn't have had juice
for the fog machine,
wiped down wheels,
and clean glass.
McLovin, there are times
that I may need a driver
for this.
- Would you be able to drive...
- Yes, sir.
Drive me around in this,
McLovin?
I would love to drive you
in this car.
This is sick.
I love it, S.J..
You've done a good job.
All right, We got to get back
to the museum, dude.
We got somebody on their way
right now.
But the most dangerous part
about this car is...
- Zak's behind the wheel!
- I'm behind the wheel.
And I'm co-pilot!
Watch out, Vegas!
Hey...
...You sure you should be
driving this thing?
God.
This is awesome.
Hit it!
Everybody on the road,
watch out,
'cause this car's
about to eat your soul.
Aaron and I head back to
the museum to meet with Teresa
to show her the evidence
Billy has found
from our Mob Museum
investigation.
- All right.
- How are you?
Good. How are you?
So Teresa,
it's good to see you again.
Good to see you, too.
You know, we did some
EVP sessions with you.
Honestly, I didn't think that
we would walk away
with anything.
I was a bit skeptical of that.
But after
Billy reviewed the audio,
- we received EVPs, electronic voice phenomena.
- Wow.
This was being picked up
by the suction-cup microphone
listening beyond that glass.
This was absolutely insane.
The moment
that this was captured,
we were being absolutely still.
Jack McGurn, are you here
wanting your gun back?
Billy, I want you to go ahead
and play it as it was captured
and then explain to us
what you did
in the enhanced version.
Sure.
Jack McGurn.
So here's what I did
to enhance it.
I slowed it down
so we can hear the enunciation
of whatever's being said.
All of this is EV...
Yeah, all of these,
you know, different spikes
of the waveform
is the EVP in question.
This is me saying,
"Jack McGurn."
Maybe you can understand
this sentence
and tell us what you think.
- Yeah, do you hear, like, "What is happening to"...
- Something.
Play that again.
Okay, "Help, I'm," cutting.
"What is happening to,"
or something.
- I just don't know what the word after help is.
- Right. "Help."
I hear, like,
"Help -- help, I'm," something.
"What is happening to."
It says, "Help, I'm injured.
- What's happening to me?"
- Let me hear it.
What if it says,
"Help, I'm dying.
What is happening to me?"
When they got shot,
your last thoughts, maybe
your last breath, is,
- "Help, I'm dying. What is happening to me?"
- Right.
- Yeah. I hear that.
- Okay. Yeah, I hear that.
- Do you?
- Yeah.
- That is creepy!
That is sick!
This may be one of the thoughts
of one of the victims
that is stored in that wall.
I'm happy.
I'm excited for this.
This was a great capture.
So I would just keep an eye
on that area
and keep us informed
if this spirit manifests himself
now that you've heard his voice.
- That's exciting.
- Are you okay?
Yeah.
After reviewing this,
I believe this is
place memory evidence,
meaning the residue
of that deadly massacre
has stored itself
into the bricks.
And at the right moment,
audio and visual presentations
can be heard and even seen.
However, because this response
also seemed to have
answered our questions,
it lends to the theory
that it could also be
an intelligent spirit
haunting the museum.
I'd love to do a second,
more thorough investigation
of the Mob Museum
in the near future.