Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 8, Episode 10 - Gemini & Myranda - full transcript
After seven years of drama, Gemini is desperate to find Myranda. Nev and Kamie reach out for help, as they stage their first-ever intervention for a repeat catfish.
- Gemini has been talking
to Myranda
for the past seven years.
- I felt like she was the one.
- Oh, my God.
It's her.
- This is what
I've been saying!
I'm not doing this.
- You gotta be kidding me.
We can't let her
back on the show.
Is there a chance
that we could somehow have,
like, an intervention?
She's here.
Hello, again.
[tense music]
[dramatic musical sting]
- ♪ Happy Catfish Day to you ♪
- What?
- It's been ten years since
you were the first person
in the whole world
to be catfished.
- That's right.
Wow.
- Ten years of employment.
all: [laugh]
- Make a wish.
[all cheering]
- All right.
That was nice.
So let's get into this.
All right.
Oh, we got one.
Tatyanna.
- ♪ Bad at sorrys ♪
- "Dear Nev and Kamie,
my name is Tatyanna.
I'm 19, and I'm a nursing
student from Houston, Texas."
- H-Town.
- "Recently, I started dating
an amazing guy named Gemini.
But don't worry, I've actually
met him in real life."
Wait a second.
- ♪ I feel so lucky when
you say that you love me ♪
- "We've just gotten together,
and things are going well.
"Gemini is sweet, loving,
charming, handsome guy,
"and I'm hoping
this relationship
"is going to work out.
But there is one small issue,
his friend, Myranda."
- ♪ I get mad ♪
- "He met her
seven years ago online,
and they've been talking
on and off ever since."
- ♪ I push you away,
why do I do that ♪
- "Myranda comes back into his
life every couple of months,
causes some drama,
and then disappears."
- ♪ I'm surprised
you haven't left me yet ♪
- I'd actually call it toxic.
- ♪ I hide things and say
things I can't take back ♪
- "But she's helped him
through some rough times."
- ♪ Away, why do I do that ♪
- "Unfortunately, she's
never able to video chat
or meet in person."
- ♪ I'm surprised
you haven't left me yet ♪
- "I'm not writing in as
a jealous person or anything.
"But I don't like
that she's recently
popped back up into his life
and is causing him stress."
- ♪ Do you do that ♪
- "I'm helping him reach out
to you guys,
but I feel like he should
take it from here."
- ♪ I get mad ♪
- "Please help Gemini
get the answers he needs
"so he can move on.
Thank you, Tatyanna."
- ♪ Surprised
you haven't left me yet ♪
- Here's a real question.
Do you think
Gemini is a Gemini?
- If he's not,
then this is just a waste.
- So let's call her and see
if she can patch us through.
- Hey.
- Whoa, what's up, guys?
Look at Gemini.
- I know.
- Gemini's already just like--
- He looks so excited.
- Not happy.
both: [laugh]
- We have
an important question.
Are you a Gemini?
- Yes, I am.
- Thank God.
If you weren't a Gemini
and your name is Gemini,
we wouldn't know what to do--
- Yeah, that would be weird.
- [laughs]
- How long
have you been dating?
- Three weeks.
- Oh.
- Oh, that's new.
- Wow.
- Mm-hmm.
- Did you guys know
each other before that?
- Nice.
All right, so let's talk
a little bit about Myranda.
Tell us about this girl
and the whole story.
- Well, I met her around,
like--like seven years ago.
She was friends
with my friend Danielle.
Her and Myranda used
to dance together,
so that's how she added me.
She gave me her number,
and we just started talking
on the phone every day
like--like high school people,
falling asleep
on the phone and stuff.
She came in my life,
like, in a rough time,
so it was, like, easy for me
to gravitate towards her.
- So right now,
there's no attract--
like, you're not
interested in her.
- I was at first,
but then she kind of
got real disrespectful.
Like, she get mad
and I get cussed out,
whole attitude,
whole nine yards.
And I was just like,
"You know, I can't talk
to you no more."
- Where does Myranda live?
- What?
- So close.
Have you guys talked
about meeting up before?
- For years, she just
made up a bunch of excuses,
and then, she wouldn't
answer her phone calls,
and just disappeared.
- Tatyanna, in your email,
you mentioned that
she popped up recently.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, she recently
popped up.
And then her friend,
Danielle, was like,
"You have to call Myranda."
I was like,
"Call her for what?"
So I text,
and then we started talking,
and it was crazy.
She don't never
have an explanation
why she disappeared.
- And you don't think
this girl, Danielle,
has something to do
with all of this?
- No, no.
- Wait, have you met
Danielle face-to-face?
- Yes.
- Okay, so you'd know--
- I've been to video shoots
and stuff like that.
- Okay.
- We sat down and talked.
- Tatyanna, I can understand
why even though
your relationship is new,
you see this as an important
thing that Gemini finally
find out who she really is.
- Like something's
just not adding up.
I just think he should try to
move on from this situation.
- All right, well, look.
You've gotta meet this girl.
It's just so you can move on,
and hopefully she can move on,
and you guys can stop popping
up in each other's lives and--
- I'm down just because
I wanna breathe the same air
as Beyoncé, so--
- Oh, yeah.
- I'm coming to Houston.
- All right.
- Period.
- So we'll come to Houston.
We'll see you guys really soon.
Okay?
- See you soon.
- Bye, guys.
- Bye.
both: Bye.
- I just think it's strange
that their only mutual friend
is Danielle.
- I think Danielle's
getting catfished too,
and that she's--
- But they've danced together.
- We should probably get
in touch with Danielle.
- Yeah.
- So let's get down to Houston.
Make sure you bring
your hot sauce.
- I have hot sauce in my bag.
- Swag.
- [laughs]
- Let's go.
- Oh, my God.
I'm so proud of you.
I did not think you were
gonna get that part.
- ♪ Hanging with
my crew tonight ♪
♪ Now give me one last break ♪
♪ You got whoo-hoo-hoo ♪
- H-Town.
- Gemini.
- Do you know what
they say about Geminis?
There are two sides to them.
There's the side that he's
showing us in front of Tatyanna
and there's the side that's
been talking to Myranda.
And I feel like there's more
to the story here.
- There it is.
- ♪ Whoo-hoo,
hoo, ooh, ooh ♪
♪ Tell me that we can ♪
- Hey, ho.
- Hi.
- Hello, Tatyanna.
- Hi.
- So glad I caught you guys.
I'm on my way to work,
but it's nice to see you guys.
I wanted to stop and say hi
to you guys before I left.
- By this time tomorrow,
we should have a lot more info.
- Yes.
- Well, see you.
Have a good day.
- Mm-hmm.
[upbeat music]
- Whoo.
- [sighs]
So how's it going
with Tatyanna?
I mean, like,
it's still pretty new.
I mean--
- It's still new.
We still trying
to figure each other out.
Like, she got to get used to
dealing with me being a Gemini.
'Cause my mood switch up quick.
As soon as it switch up,
it's 1,000 questions.
"What's wrong?
What's wrong?"
Like, she had a moment
she started crying.
"You gonna leave me for her."
I was like, "No, I'm not.
"I had seven years
to try to be with her.
I'm not gonna
leave you for her."
- So, okay, so--so take us back
about how you met Myranda
and how we got
to where we are now.
- All right, I had a--
it was just a normal day.
I just woke up and I was
just posting a status.
"Why do tall girls wear heels?
What y'all trying to do,
whisper to God?"
She commented on it, and then
we just started talking.
I just needed somebody
to talk to.
I opened up more.
She helped me,
like, keep my mind.
Like, I almost
committed suicide.
Like, that's how bad it was.
- Wow.
- She was somebody
I could run and talk to.
That's pretty much why
I kept going back to her.
[solemn music]
- So your relationship
with Myranda
is a really meaningful, very
emotional part of your life.
And she's always been there,
and helped you out,
and kept you, you know,
looking forward and positive.
- Yeah.
- To me, the most
interesting part of the story
is your friend, Danielle.
- Mm-hmm.
- Who you met in real life.
- Mm-hmm.
- Who's also friends
with Myranda.
Has Danielle ever met Myranda?
- Mm-hmm.
They used to dance together.
- Okay--
- Do they have photos together
or anything like that?
- No.
- When you saw Danielle,
did you ask her
about Myranda in person?
- At that time,
Myranda was disappeared,
so--and she didn't come up
in that conversation.
- So there's no guarantee that
this Danielle on Facebook
is the same Danielle
that you've talked to
in real life, in person.
- Like, I don't know.
- Can I see some
of the messages
that you and Myranda
write to each other?
[tense music]
Oh, this is when she started
talking to you again.
- Mm-hmm.
- Okay.
So this is from,
like, a week ago.
You said, "I love you so much,
I hate you."
Then she said, "I love you
so much that I hate you" also.
- This is a very
Gemini conversation.
Only Geminis say
[bleep] like that.
- Then you both said
I love you.
"Call me...send a picture."
- Oh, she's cute.
- Oh, she's really cute.
And you guys got
into another argument.
You guys, like, argue a lot.
She says, "I care for you
in a deep, romantic way.
I passionately care for you."
I don't wanna hurt you.
I mean, I don't know.
It looks like you definitely
have feelings for her.
- Yeah, as a friend,
but I don't have--
- Mm, I don't know about that.
- This is a lot--
I said a lot of hurtful
things in there.
- I know, but you also
say a lot of very sweet,
romantic things in there.
I understand it's
like a love-hate.
- Yeah.
- And that's obvious.
But there's a lot
of love there still.
- Yeah, it's still there
because I've been holding onto
that, like, for seven years.
- Right.
- So it's like--I don't know.
I probably do have--still
have feelings for her,
but it's not strong enough
for me to push Tatyanna away.
- Does Tatyanna know
about that?
- No.
I didn't tell her that part.
- Mm-hmm.
- I understand why
Tatyanna's concerned.
You've got a long history
with this girl.
It's a tough situation for you.
We gotta figure this out.
So send us an email
with any phone numbers,
Facebook pages, and hopefully
we'll find something.
And we'll report back.
- Okay.
- We got work to do.
- Yeah.
- Oh, boy.
- [laughs]
See you tomorrow.
Ay-yi-yi.
[tense music]
- There's always more.
- Always.
♪ ♪
- I believe that
he really like Tatyanna,
but there's no way if Myranda
somehow shows up, and--
- Is who she says she is.
- Well, and that's not gonna be
a very difficult decision
for him.
- He has so much history
with Myranda.
- Right.
- And he's not really
letting on, I don't think,
how much he truly loves
and cares about her.
- What I think he's trying
to convince himself of
is that he's not still
romantically interested in her.
- Right.
I'm not buying it.
♪ ♪
- ♪ We're A-OK
no matter what they say ♪
♪ We're A-OK ♪
♪ ♪
♪ We're A-OK ♪
- Let's do it.
So let's just recap here.
Gemini has been talking
to Myranda for seven years.
Myranda's sort of
very hot a cold.
She gets mad at him
when he tries to say things
about meeting up or FaceTiming.
So he's now met and involved
with a beautiful, young woman,
Tatyanna, who he really likes
and wants to be with.
So he's trying to decide,
is this the time to move on,
or meet Myranda
and see if there's actually
a place for her in his future?
- Right.
We gonna see.
- All right, so let's see
what we got here.
"Hey Nev and Kamie, here are
all the Facebook accounts
"I have for the girls.
"Myranda's page,
Danielle's page.
"And here's
the phone numbers I have.
Can't wait to hear
what you dig up."
All right, so I think we should
just start with Danielle
'cause Danielle
apparently knows Gemini.
They've met before.
And she claims that she's met
and is friends with Myranda.
- Right, but
is the real Danielle
the person he's been
talking to on Facebook?
Or is she a completely
different person?
- Right, so is this
actually her Facebook page?
- "Jill of All Trades."
- Right, she's
a party promoter,
she's a former model.
- She's a former model
at "Model,"
which is very convincing.
[laughs]
- You think we should see
if this is a fake page?
Like, search the photos?
- Yeah.
- All right.
Wait, whoa, here we go.
We got a hit.
both: Danii Banks.
- Okay, so this is
her Instagram.
Verified.
- 2 million--
- 2.6 million followers.
- Oh, God.
- Wow, this must be
a real girl.
- Yeah.
- Let's send her a message.
"Hey, Danii.
Someone is pretending
to be you."
Boom.
All right.
So we sent the real
Danii Banks a message.
All right, so now,
let's just run the photos.
- For Myranda?
- Myranda.
[eerie music]
Let's see if there's a hit.
- Nope.
- Nope.
♪ ♪
- Nope.
[phone ringing]
both: Oh!
- FaceTime.
- Wow.
- This must be Danii.
I love it.
I love it.
This girl knows what's up.
both: Hey.
- Hi, I can't believe
it's really you.
- [laughs]
- So what's going on?
- We're trying to help this
guy in Texas named Gemini.
Gemini thinks he's been friends
with you for a long time.
I guess primarily
through Facebook.
- Here's the problem.
I don't have Facebook.
- Okay, and you don't know
anyone named Gemini in Houston?
- No.
[laughs]
- Wait a second.
What I don't understand is
he claims to also have met you
because, I guess, you've gone
to--you've done some video--
- Music videos?
- Music videos, I guess,
or have you been to Houston
on some work stuff, or--
- Yes, I have been to Houston
for a music video.
- He was under the impression
that you knew who he was.
- No.
[laughs]
- Okay, well--
You guys probably
spoke briefly,
but you probably didn't know
who he actually was.
But he was being friendly,
and you were probably
just talking back?
- That makes perfect sense.
- Right.
- It's all strange.
- [laughs]
- It's all strange.
- Well, yeah, it's not me,
so I feel bad that
that's happening to him.
- It's good he's getting
some answers finally.
Thanks Danii.
- Bye.
- Bye.
- Bye.
He said his name,
and she was like,
"Oh, okay.
You're at this shoot.
You must--maybe
I met you yest--I don't..."
Like she has
no [bleep] idea who he is.
- No, he's like, "Gemini,"
and she's like, "Oh."
Nobody is cross-pollinating
these conversations.
This is the problem.
- Okay, so let's just take
Myranda's phone number
and see what comes up.
[bleep] Taylor.
- Wait, is [bleep] Taylor
not the same name as
Ashley Taylor's grandmother
that died?
Is that not the same person?
Bock-bock bitch, Ashley Taylor?
- Oh, my God.
- Why she gotta be a bird?
- Well, bock-bock bitch.
- Bock bitch?
- If I have
to see this girl again,
I swear on everything,
I'm quitting.
- It--it could be!
- She's from Texas.
Look it up.
- Oh, my God.
- You guys.
- I think I have
everyone's numbers in here.
Wait.
- This is what
I've been saying!
This is what I said.
I told you.
How could you forget?
How could you forget?
I'm not doing this.
Good-bye.
Goodbye, everyone.
It's been nice.
[laughs]
But I'm not [bleep] doing it.
- [laughs]
You gotta be kidding me.
- I told you.
- It's the same number.
I can't believe it.
Wow.
- She needs help.
- Right.
It's her.
I can't believe it's her.
- Are you kidding me?
- She told me
she was gonna try and stop.
- She said
she was addicted, Nev.
- She lied to me.
- [laughs]
- Well, so what do we do?
'Cause this is
a real thing for Gemini.
Gemini should meet her
so that he can move on
for his own sake.
- How am I supposed to move on?[laughs]
- Is there a way to do that
without giving her
the stage again?
- We lure her in.
- Right.
- Boom.
Intervention.
- Yes, and we should
find some people in her life
that we could gather together
who might be able
to actually get through to her.
Let's go to Gemini
and show him who that is.
And then we'll figure out
what we should do after that.
Our work is not
done here, Kamie.
- You get to tell him.
- Fine.
- 'Cause I can't tell him
without any bias.
- Ay-yi-yi.
- Gemini's in
for a real treat.
- ♪ Guess who's back ♪
- Yeah, Shady is back.
There needs to be
some kind of support group
for people whose lives
have been affected.
We have to think of the best
way to convince her to stop.
She's been doing this
for 12 years of her life.
- Okay.
Here we are.
[ambient music]
- [sighs]
- Oh.
all: Hello.
- How are you guys doing?
- Good.
- All right, well,
I think we can explain
and answer a lot
of what's going on here.
- Okay.
- So buckle up.
So the first thing
we looked at is Danielle.
We ran this image,
and it brought us
to an Instagram account.
And it's a verified page
for someone named Danii Banks.
- [laughs]
Hmm.
- So she FaceTimed us,
and I explained the situation,
and she said,
"Okay, well, first of all,
I don't use Facebook."
And she doesn't know
who you are.
[tense music]
- Oh, well, I saw
what I saw, so--
- Well, right, but--well,
so maybe you were at a shoot,
so she just figured like she
should either know who you were
or maybe met you before,
and forgot who you--
Like, I think you kind of
interpreted that interaction
in a way that helps support
the possibility that you'd been
talking to her all this time.
- That's crazy.
- Right.
So that all just sort of
brings us back to,
okay, who's Myranda?
- Okay.
- I'm gonna play a clip for you
of a phone call we made
on an earlier episode of
"Catfish" from this season.
- Okay.
- And if the voice is
the same voice as Myranda...
- Mm-hmm.
- Then I think
we have our answer.
All right?
- Yeah.
- Hello?
- Hi, is this Jalissa?
- It's her.
- Hi, Jalissa.
How you doing?
I don't know
if you're familiar
with the show "Catfish."
I'm the guy on the show.
I'm trying to help
your friend, Red, meet you.
- I'm not sure about meeting
because I'm not in LA--
- Ooh.
- Anymore.
- So you were in LA.
- That's her.
- I was in LA working,
but I--
- It sounds like her.
- Yes.
- You for sure, you're sure--
- I'm for sure.
[somber music]
I knew that it was so off.
Aw, man.
This is weird.
Why do I feel like
this is a dude?
- Oh, no.
- No.
Let me show you.
- Wait.
Let's bring it up.
- That's her?
- That's her.
- This is some--
- Okay, I'm gonna talk to you.
- Okay.
- [inhales]
Oh.
- That's her.
Oh, I feel your pain, Red.
- 3,000 profiles?
- Three, comma...
- [mouthing along]
- ...zero, zero, zero.
- Who does that?
- Ashley Taylor does that.
- Aw.
- Anyway, so she's done--she--
the same thing with Red
that she's done with you.
So now we're trying
to figure out what to do.
[tense music]
- Man, this is horrible.
- 3,000 profiles, she has.
- Right, that's disgusting.
- What's so frustrating
about her is
she's not doing this
because she wants friends.
- She doing it 'cause--just
to get a kick out of people.
both: Right.
- Play with people's emotions.
- It's just fun for her.
- Which is [bleep] up,
especially considering
everything that you've been
through, that's not cool.
And she needs
to understand that there
can be serious consequences
for that kind of [bleep].
- Yeah, I like--I just
put my trust into her.
Yeah, she was always there
to, like, help me
through some situations.
That's crazy.
Wow.
- I mean, look.
Is there a chance that
collectively between you, us,
possibly also Red,
the girl from that episode,
and maybe some other
close friends of Ashley's
could have, like,
an intervention
where we call her out
on her [bleep]?
- Yeah, she
definitely need that.
- Right.
- 'Cause if it's just us,
she's gonna think this is
just a part of her little game
and her little scheme.
She's not gonna take it
as seriously,
but if it's people that
she actually knows,
maybe that'll
convince her to stop.
- And I think that
it's good for you
to close the door on this
for good,
and tell her it's over, please
don't ever contact me again,
or whatever it is
you wanna say.
- Okay, that's fine.
- What we need to do right now
is find some people who
actually know her better.
- Mm-hmm.
- Let's see if we can find
her real Facebook.
Hey, I got it.
There she is.
There's your girlfriend.
- Ain't my girlfriend.
- Someone posted
a couple days ago.
"Can you call me, please?
I've been trying
to reach you all week."
- Tomekualynn?
- All right, let's message her.
"Hey, Tomekualynn.
"Your friend, Ashley, was
recently on my show, 'Catfish.'
"Well, believe it or not,
we are filming a new episode,
"and just discovered that
Ashley is catfishing again,
"so we're trying to find a way
to help her stop.
"If you're interested
in being a part of this,
please let me know ASAP."
- Does she have
family, though?
- No, there's nothing there.
Is there anything in the--
[phone ringing]
Oh, that was fast.
- Oh, who is that?
- Hello?
- Yes?
- Okay, well, thank you.
I'm actually here right now
with someone named Gemini,
and we're trying
to figure out what to do.
- Well, that's kind of
what we were looking for.
'Cause it's hard for me and
Kamie to call her out on stuff
because we don't know
what her life has been.
- All right, well, if you can,
we'd love to bring you
to sort of have an intervention
with Ashley.
- Who is that?
- All right.
Well, that would be great.
- And do you know,
is she still living in [bleep]?
- All right, well, cool.
So, look, we'll
text you tomorrow,
we'll let you know our plan,
and we'll look forward
to meeting you.
- All right, thank you.
- Thanks, Tomekualynn.
- Thank you.
both: Bye.
- Wow, so Ashley even lies
to her best friend.
No one knows when she's
telling the truth or not.
Well, the friends are in.
Let's see if Red's down too.
- Right.
- And let her know
what's going on.
- She knows exactly what
you're going through.
[line trilling]
- Hey, Red.
Guess who.
- Oh, you thought
you were done with us?
Well, guess what.
- So check this out.
We're in Houston, Texas
doing an episode right now,
and a phone number came back
to Ashley Taylor.
all: [laugh]
- Your girl done struck again.
- So--
- Well, you gotta pray
a little harder.
So now we found some
people who really know her,
who might actually
be her friends.
We're gonna get them all
to do an intervention
without her knowing.
- We've never done
an intervention before.
- Somebody has to put a stop
to this girl.
[smooth music]
- Red is on her way
from the airport,
and then we'll hit the road,
pick up Gemini,
and then go meet Ashley's
friends, Meka, Derek.
- Yeah.
[knocking]
- Oh.
- Red alert.
- Oh, man.
- I'm here.
- [laughs]
[lively music]
- Let's go.
- I've been trying to think
of something to help her,
and I'm still thinking.
- [laughs]
We got a long drive.
- All right.
Where's our guy?
Hey.
- Hello.
- Gemini, this is Red.
- I'm Red.
How are you doing?
- I'm doing fine.
- Good.
- Here we go.
- All right.
Off to Killeen, Texas to join
up with Tomekualynn and Derek.
This is crazy
'cause we've never done
an intervention before.
- This is gonna be so epic.
- ♪ Whoo, whoo ♪
♪ ♪
♪ Hey ♪
- What have you guys
been saying?
- Man, I was just
checking on her.
I was like,
"Good morning, beautiful."
And that was weird--
- Yeah, you keep it the same.
- ♪ Yeah
we breaking the box ♪
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
♪ Oh, yeah,
we're breaking the mold ♪
- Tell Tatyanna
what happened yesterday?
- Yeah, I told her.
- What'd she say?
- Yeah?
- [laughs]
- ♪ Hey, looking for a hit ♪
♪ ♪
- A storm is coming, Ashley.
- ♪ Hit ♪
- All right, we are almost
at Tomekualynn's house.
- We made it, guys.
[doorbell chimes]
both: Hey.
- Hi.
- Come in.
- What's up, you guys?
- What's up, y'all?
Come in.
- I'm Meka.
This is Derek.
- Derek?
All right.
- Nice to meet you.
- I'm Nev.
- Nice to meet you.
I'm Kamie.
- I'm Red.
- How are you doing, Red?
- Whole gang.
- I'm Gemini.
- This is our squad now.
- So, hello.
- Hello.
- Hi, Nev.
- Thanks for meeting up
with us.
Long story short, Gemini has
been talking to Ashley now
for over seven years
as a few different people,
and only now realized it.
- Wow.
- What struck us the most
in finding you guys is
the fact that on Red's episode,
Ashley was saying
she doesn't have any friends.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, I know.
I confronted her about it.
- And we see that that's
different because--
- Well, and Derek?
- I'm very close with her,
and we're very close.
But as far as--she's
probably the closest.
- Like, I know her mom,
dad, grandmother,
pretty much
her whole entire family.
- And does she have
a relatively happy childhood?
I mean--
- She really didn't--
she didn't live impoverished.
She had a--
- Yeah.
- She had pretty much what
she needed and what she wanted.
But understand, she has
always been a big girl,
and you know how kids are.
And there was a lot of teasing
and stuff like that,
so it made her--
- I'ma get you
before could get me.
- Exactly.
- But, I mean,
her being where she is now,
me being with her every day,
trying to get her to--
encourage her
to not do this stuff,
and her mom too,
it didn't change anything.
Like, with me, she can't lie
to me because most of the stuff
she says, like pretending
to have a husband and kids.
- You know her.
- Yeah, so I know
the real her.
So I can tell when she lies.
The husband ain't real.
- We gotta do something.
I mean, in the ten years
of doing this,
I've never met a person
that needs our help more.
The situation now is,
she doesn't know
that we're with Gemini.
She definitely doesn't know
that we're in town
with you guys.
So I can call her right now
and I can say,
"Hey, Kamie and I
are helping Gemini.
He wants to talk to you."
And not obviously tell her
that we're already here,
and that everyone together.
And then,
tomorrow we can all
kind of really
get through to her.
Well, I guess I gotta
call Ashley again.
- Good luck.
[line trilling]
- Guess who.
- Hey, Ashley.
I'm here with Gemini.
And it wasn't super hard
to figure out obviously
that he's been talking to you
all these years.
- And he--he wants
to meet you.
So we were wondering if
we could drive up from Houston
tomorrow and make that happen.
- Okay.
Bye.
- All right,
so we'll let you know
when we hear from her
in the morning,
and we'll tell you where
to meet us and figure it out.
- Sounds like a plan.
- She's gonna come.
She can't resist the drama.
- Ashley texted me that
she's ready to meet,
so let's give her a call.
[line trilling]
- Hey, Ashley.
- So we're here, we got Gemini,
and we can go round two.
- All right.
That's fine.
We could have someone
from the show pick you up.
- Bye.
Let's go collect
Gemini and Red.
Meka and Derek are
gonna meet us here.
Team is assembled,
and we will roll out.
- Catfish Avengers.
- ♪ I can't stand, waiting
around to dance, uh-huh ♪
- Yo.
- Hey.
- We're ready to roll
if you are.
- ♪ Already ♪
both: Hey.
- All red everything.
- All right!
- It's our posse.
- What's up?
- Hey, guys.
- What's up, man?
- Hi.
- We are the squad, so--
- Squad.
[line trilling]
- Good morning, Tatyanna.
- So how do you feel
about me going to see her?
- ♪ Don't sit around
and complain about it ♪
- Y'all better hope
she act right today.
I gave her a pass last time.
- Yeah, same.
- I have no more [bleep]
to give.
- Fresh out.
- ♪ Don't sit around
and complain about it ♪
- You guys ready?
We're here.
[tense music]
- Let's go, posse.
- All right.
♪ ♪
Here's the plan.
Gemini, you're gonna hang here
with me and Kamie.
You guys will be in here.
Obviously, you know,
we're close,
so try not to make any noise.
Don't wanna give away
your position.
After Gemini and Ashley get
a chance to talk for a minute,
I'll come in with her.
We'll see how that goes.
All right, so hang tight.
We'll be right outside.
Oh, she texted me.
She's here.
All right.
- How do you feel?
- My stomach is like...
[dramatic music]
I don't know.
Oh.
[sighs]
♪ ♪
- Hello again.
- Hey, y'all.
- Hey, Myranda.
- Well, Gemini.
Here she is.
Myranda, AKA--
- Danielle.
- Danielle and Ashley.
- Thanks for coming.
- Yeah.
- We're really just here
to give him an opportunity
to get some closure
to this whole thing.
- Like, why did you do it
in the first place?
Like what is--what
was you looking for?
- Nothing from you.
- Hey--the hell?
- Well, did you have feelings?
- No--no.
He's a great guy, but he's
just got, you know, issues.
- What you think you got?
- No, I'm just--
I'm just saying,
like, you're a great guy,
you're a great friend.
It happened.
It was a joke.
- It was a joke?
Seven years?
All right.
Ain't nobody find it funny
but you.
- I only came here today
'cause I wanted to make amends.
I've done that,
so can I go now?
- No, I think
he had questions--
- Okay, and I'm--
I'm not answering him
because right now, it's
gonna get heated between us.
- I'm out. Like, I don't
even care no more.
Like, you selfish.
You don't care
about nobody but yourself.
- He's upset obviously.
And I think it's justified--
- He always gets upset.
We're both done.
That's a wrap.
- Let me quickly
just talk to Gemini.
I'm gonna take him
inside the room for a second.
- Please do.
- And cool him off,
and then we'll come back out.
- I'm not doing it this time.
If we don't do this, then
I will go back to the crib.
- Ashley, I don't know
what you're expecting.
- We got as much
from that conversation
as we're gonna get.
You guys can just be here.
You all right, man?
- Yeah, I'm good.
I just wanna
get this over with.
I don't care no more.
- All right.
I'm gonna go get her
and I'll bring her in.
I'll be right back.
All right, he's in there.
He's calmed down.
Why don't we go in there,
and we could try this again?
- [sighs]
Oh, Lord.
[suspenseful music]
♪ ♪
Oh, damn.
- Come on in.
- No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- They love you
and care about you.
- As you can see,
we brought some people here
from your life.
- Mm-hmm.
This an intervention?
- Yes.
- Kind of.
- You set me up.
- Well--
- That's how
interventions work.
- Yeah.
Let's have a seat.
So, look, call it
whatever you want,
I care about you as a person
who exists right now.
Obviously, you need
to stop the catfishing,
but maybe,
before you can do that,
you need to realize
that there are people,
specifically these two
who you've known a long time--
- Mm-hmm.
- Who want you to be happy
and be honest,
and live a life that's
fulfilling and rewarding.
We're here and we wanna know
how you feel,
and we wanna be helpful
if we can.
- I love you,
but I'm not finna sit here
and applaud your [bleep]
'cause I know
you're better than this.
The whole point
of being on this show is
for these people
to get their answers,
not for you to come in here
and make this a joke,
and act like this
isn't hurting them.
And, like, you're just
completely, deep down,
okay with what you're doing
to these people.
What about your real life?
Not this person
you're pretending to be.
All this effort you're putting
into all these lies,
you could put it into finding
yourself a real husband,
not one that
you gotta lie about.
Yeah, the smile's gone now,
isn't it?
And that's coming from me,
your big sister,
who actually loves you
and cares about the real you,
not this person
you're pretending to be
because it's not okay.
- It's crazy.
All I'm asking you is why.
Why you couldn't be yourself?
- And that's one question.
He's just asking one.
- This was a joke.
I'm bad and I'm sorry, but--
- That's not a joke.
You wasted seven years
of this young man's life.
- I'm not doing this.
I'm not doing this.
- Ashley, hold on, hold on.
- Then what you come here for?
If you didn't want to do this--
- I'm not doing this [bleep]!
- It's not [bleep].
- I'm not doing this.
- Ashley.
You all right?
- I'm--I'm fine.
- You sure?
- I'm fine.
- She left 'cause
she ain't wanna start crying
'cause that's where
she was headed.
- Yeah.
- But what happened to you
that was so bad for you
to do all this to people?
- [sniffles]
- You feel like you're
being attacked, huh?
- [cries]
Yeah, I do.
Like how dare you sit there
and talk about my marriage
and for her to say
that it's [bleep].
Then you don't know what
the [bleep] I'm going through.
Yeah, I get it.
I hurt people, I get that.
But don't sit up here
and don't talk about,
"What about your husband?"
Like, don't do that.
- You know I didn't come here
to attack you.
It's all about love, baby.
- That's the thing, though.
They [bleep] ambushed me.
Y'all don't know what the
[bleep] I've been going through
the last three years.
- You're gonna be all right.
- I'ma get this over with
'cause I'm ready to go home.
Like the--how
the [bleep] you know?
Like you don't know
what [bleep] hell
this person put me through
these last [bleep] three years.
- Well, tell us.
We wanna know.
- Don't talk to me
right now, Nev.
Thank you.
- Okay.
Well, we'll be here
if you wanna let us in
and tell us what's up.
[somber music]
- Oh, my God.
♪ ♪
This is [bleep] crazy.
- What was she saying?
- Mainly she felt like
you brought up,
I guess, her husband.
It triggered her because--
- It doesn't [bleep] matter.
- It triggered her because
the husband ain't [bleep] real.
- Exactly.
- Let me just go back in here
'cause I'm ready to go home.
Come on, Derek.
Let's go.
- So you're not
gonna talk to me?
- No, I'm not.
I don't--
- Why?
- No, I'm not.
I don't wanna do this.
No.
- No, you're gonna talk
to me face-to-face
'cause you doing all
this yelling and stuff,
and I understand you hurt.
- No, you don't.
- But we're supposed
to be best friends.
How are we supposed
to understand,
and you won't say nothing?
I sit here
and tell you everything.
When grandma died, I was
the one who was there for you,
not these people that
are your fake friends.
Holding it in is
gonna make it worse.
You gotta tell somebody.
Grandma's not here to listen.
You could at least
explain to them
why you did
what you did to them.
Why it felt like a joke to you.
Why it was funny to you.
Why you felt like it made
you feel better to hurt them.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm not bringing up
your husband to be funny,
but I'm saying if there
really was your husband--
- Nobody knows what the [bleep]
this man--this person was
going through these
last couple of years.
- We're just here to listen.
- Exactly.
- We're here because
we want to know you.
We want to get
to know the real Ashley,
and we need to understand how
to separate that from the lies.
- Where should I start?
- Your husband.
Where'd you meet him?
- Well, we met on Instagram.
Everything was going great.
He loses his job,
and he's just like--became
a downward spiral from there.
- Are you still married?
- Yeah, like me and him,
we--we still together, like--
- What's his name?
- His name--his name...
His name--his name is...
Well, his whole name is Sergio
Geronimo Perez, but yeah.
- What's it gonna take
to get you to stop?
- I don't do that no more.
I have a lot of stuff going on.
- You were just doing it
with him.
- This was the last one.
- Well, Ashley, I'm gonna be
flat-out honest with you
'cause I feel like we could be
real with each other.
I don't believe a word
that comes out of your mouth.
But my concern is that you
have isolated yourself so much
from the people who love you
and the people who do know you,
that you have--you have created
your own little world
where you think that you're all
by yourself, and you're not.
- I'm never alone.
What are you talking about?
- You went on national TV
and said you have nobody.
You don't have no friends,
no family you can depend on.
Every time you've ever
called me, I've been there,
even when I have
my own stuff going on.
So how say
you don't have anybody?
- I'm a close--I'm--I don't
talk about my business.
I'm a closed person.
What happens in my personal
life, it's my personal life,
and it is what it is--
- But I let you
into my personal life.
- Okay.
- I think that you are
losing sight of yourself.
Ashley needs to do
soul-searching
to figure out who Ashley is,
and what Ashley deserves,
and what Ashley wants.
- But she is soul-searching.
She's gonna do a lot
of soul-searching
when I--when
I leave here.
- This [bleep] keeps
getting better.
- It's crazy.
She still don't care
after all this.
- Exactly.
- No, you--
- No, I'm done.
I just wanna say my piece.
Can I talk to you real quick?
- Please, no.
- Huh?
- Let the man talk to you.
- [sighs]
- 'Cause you could say
what you want to,
but for you to carry on
with her or him
for as long as you did,
you had to have
some type of feeling.
- Like, I really don't
care about this no more.
I hope you find the--
the help that you need,
and I hope you find yourself,
and hope you stop doing this.
Like, we could've been friends.
I just hope you
really find yourself--
- Okay.
- Basically.
Well, take care.
- All right.
Have a safe trip home.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
- Well, you can
put on the front
like you don't give a [bleep]
about any of this,
but at the end of the day,
when you lay down at night,
and there are moments when you
are just Ashley by herself,
that person
needs to be happy.
- Mm-hmm.
- Is there a part of you,
even a small part,
that acknowledges that
you could use some help?
- I mean, I'm not crazy.
- I didn't say--
- I--I know what
you're saying, Nev,
but I'm just telling you.
- I just mean support, help--
- I get--get it, Nev.
I get what you're saying.
Sometimes I feel like,
you know what,
let me just hold it in
'cause I know if I let it out,
it's not gonna be good
when I let it out.
- And it's not gonna be good
when you hold it in
for ten years.
- Look, the best--I think
the best we can do is
just show you that if you're
going through something
and feel like
there's nowhere to go,
there is somewhere to go.
- Always.
With me, anyway.
- And rather than starting
a new conversation
with someone online
as another person,
there's an opportunity for you
to just connect as yourself
with people in your life.
- Mm-hmm.
- I'm glad we got to do this.
- Oh.
I'm gonna do
some soul-searching
when I leave here.
I'm gonna do
some soul-searching
when I'm in the car.
I'm gonna do some
heavy soul-searching.
- All right, so let's say
our goodbyes for now.
- And you know what, Ashley?
I'm gonna give you a hug
this time.
- Hold on.
Back up now.
No, no, no, no, no.
What the hell you doing?
- I'm about to give you
a bear hug.
- You're not finna bear hug me.
Get away from me.
- ♪ Living in hard times ♪
- Wasn't that nice?
- It was good seeing you, Nev.
- All right.
- Pick your chin up.
- ♪ Nobody's got the answers ♪
- Pick it up.
Thank you, sport.
- All right.
Bye, Ashley.
- Bye, Ashley.
- ♪ Maybe when you're older
you'll know it better ♪
♪ Maybe when you're older ♪
♪ You'll know it better ♪
♪ Maybe when you're older
you'll know it better ♪
♪ Maybe when you're older
you'll learn how to love ♪
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00:41:13.
to Myranda
for the past seven years.
- I felt like she was the one.
- Oh, my God.
It's her.
- This is what
I've been saying!
I'm not doing this.
- You gotta be kidding me.
We can't let her
back on the show.
Is there a chance
that we could somehow have,
like, an intervention?
She's here.
Hello, again.
[tense music]
[dramatic musical sting]
- ♪ Happy Catfish Day to you ♪
- What?
- It's been ten years since
you were the first person
in the whole world
to be catfished.
- That's right.
Wow.
- Ten years of employment.
all: [laugh]
- Make a wish.
[all cheering]
- All right.
That was nice.
So let's get into this.
All right.
Oh, we got one.
Tatyanna.
- ♪ Bad at sorrys ♪
- "Dear Nev and Kamie,
my name is Tatyanna.
I'm 19, and I'm a nursing
student from Houston, Texas."
- H-Town.
- "Recently, I started dating
an amazing guy named Gemini.
But don't worry, I've actually
met him in real life."
Wait a second.
- ♪ I feel so lucky when
you say that you love me ♪
- "We've just gotten together,
and things are going well.
"Gemini is sweet, loving,
charming, handsome guy,
"and I'm hoping
this relationship
"is going to work out.
But there is one small issue,
his friend, Myranda."
- ♪ I get mad ♪
- "He met her
seven years ago online,
and they've been talking
on and off ever since."
- ♪ I push you away,
why do I do that ♪
- "Myranda comes back into his
life every couple of months,
causes some drama,
and then disappears."
- ♪ I'm surprised
you haven't left me yet ♪
- I'd actually call it toxic.
- ♪ I hide things and say
things I can't take back ♪
- "But she's helped him
through some rough times."
- ♪ Away, why do I do that ♪
- "Unfortunately, she's
never able to video chat
or meet in person."
- ♪ I'm surprised
you haven't left me yet ♪
- "I'm not writing in as
a jealous person or anything.
"But I don't like
that she's recently
popped back up into his life
and is causing him stress."
- ♪ Do you do that ♪
- "I'm helping him reach out
to you guys,
but I feel like he should
take it from here."
- ♪ I get mad ♪
- "Please help Gemini
get the answers he needs
"so he can move on.
Thank you, Tatyanna."
- ♪ Surprised
you haven't left me yet ♪
- Here's a real question.
Do you think
Gemini is a Gemini?
- If he's not,
then this is just a waste.
- So let's call her and see
if she can patch us through.
- Hey.
- Whoa, what's up, guys?
Look at Gemini.
- I know.
- Gemini's already just like--
- He looks so excited.
- Not happy.
both: [laugh]
- We have
an important question.
Are you a Gemini?
- Yes, I am.
- Thank God.
If you weren't a Gemini
and your name is Gemini,
we wouldn't know what to do--
- Yeah, that would be weird.
- [laughs]
- How long
have you been dating?
- Three weeks.
- Oh.
- Oh, that's new.
- Wow.
- Mm-hmm.
- Did you guys know
each other before that?
- Nice.
All right, so let's talk
a little bit about Myranda.
Tell us about this girl
and the whole story.
- Well, I met her around,
like--like seven years ago.
She was friends
with my friend Danielle.
Her and Myranda used
to dance together,
so that's how she added me.
She gave me her number,
and we just started talking
on the phone every day
like--like high school people,
falling asleep
on the phone and stuff.
She came in my life,
like, in a rough time,
so it was, like, easy for me
to gravitate towards her.
- So right now,
there's no attract--
like, you're not
interested in her.
- I was at first,
but then she kind of
got real disrespectful.
Like, she get mad
and I get cussed out,
whole attitude,
whole nine yards.
And I was just like,
"You know, I can't talk
to you no more."
- Where does Myranda live?
- What?
- So close.
Have you guys talked
about meeting up before?
- For years, she just
made up a bunch of excuses,
and then, she wouldn't
answer her phone calls,
and just disappeared.
- Tatyanna, in your email,
you mentioned that
she popped up recently.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, she recently
popped up.
And then her friend,
Danielle, was like,
"You have to call Myranda."
I was like,
"Call her for what?"
So I text,
and then we started talking,
and it was crazy.
She don't never
have an explanation
why she disappeared.
- And you don't think
this girl, Danielle,
has something to do
with all of this?
- No, no.
- Wait, have you met
Danielle face-to-face?
- Yes.
- Okay, so you'd know--
- I've been to video shoots
and stuff like that.
- Okay.
- We sat down and talked.
- Tatyanna, I can understand
why even though
your relationship is new,
you see this as an important
thing that Gemini finally
find out who she really is.
- Like something's
just not adding up.
I just think he should try to
move on from this situation.
- All right, well, look.
You've gotta meet this girl.
It's just so you can move on,
and hopefully she can move on,
and you guys can stop popping
up in each other's lives and--
- I'm down just because
I wanna breathe the same air
as Beyoncé, so--
- Oh, yeah.
- I'm coming to Houston.
- All right.
- Period.
- So we'll come to Houston.
We'll see you guys really soon.
Okay?
- See you soon.
- Bye, guys.
- Bye.
both: Bye.
- I just think it's strange
that their only mutual friend
is Danielle.
- I think Danielle's
getting catfished too,
and that she's--
- But they've danced together.
- We should probably get
in touch with Danielle.
- Yeah.
- So let's get down to Houston.
Make sure you bring
your hot sauce.
- I have hot sauce in my bag.
- Swag.
- [laughs]
- Let's go.
- Oh, my God.
I'm so proud of you.
I did not think you were
gonna get that part.
- ♪ Hanging with
my crew tonight ♪
♪ Now give me one last break ♪
♪ You got whoo-hoo-hoo ♪
- H-Town.
- Gemini.
- Do you know what
they say about Geminis?
There are two sides to them.
There's the side that he's
showing us in front of Tatyanna
and there's the side that's
been talking to Myranda.
And I feel like there's more
to the story here.
- There it is.
- ♪ Whoo-hoo,
hoo, ooh, ooh ♪
♪ Tell me that we can ♪
- Hey, ho.
- Hi.
- Hello, Tatyanna.
- Hi.
- So glad I caught you guys.
I'm on my way to work,
but it's nice to see you guys.
I wanted to stop and say hi
to you guys before I left.
- By this time tomorrow,
we should have a lot more info.
- Yes.
- Well, see you.
Have a good day.
- Mm-hmm.
[upbeat music]
- Whoo.
- [sighs]
So how's it going
with Tatyanna?
I mean, like,
it's still pretty new.
I mean--
- It's still new.
We still trying
to figure each other out.
Like, she got to get used to
dealing with me being a Gemini.
'Cause my mood switch up quick.
As soon as it switch up,
it's 1,000 questions.
"What's wrong?
What's wrong?"
Like, she had a moment
she started crying.
"You gonna leave me for her."
I was like, "No, I'm not.
"I had seven years
to try to be with her.
I'm not gonna
leave you for her."
- So, okay, so--so take us back
about how you met Myranda
and how we got
to where we are now.
- All right, I had a--
it was just a normal day.
I just woke up and I was
just posting a status.
"Why do tall girls wear heels?
What y'all trying to do,
whisper to God?"
She commented on it, and then
we just started talking.
I just needed somebody
to talk to.
I opened up more.
She helped me,
like, keep my mind.
Like, I almost
committed suicide.
Like, that's how bad it was.
- Wow.
- She was somebody
I could run and talk to.
That's pretty much why
I kept going back to her.
[solemn music]
- So your relationship
with Myranda
is a really meaningful, very
emotional part of your life.
And she's always been there,
and helped you out,
and kept you, you know,
looking forward and positive.
- Yeah.
- To me, the most
interesting part of the story
is your friend, Danielle.
- Mm-hmm.
- Who you met in real life.
- Mm-hmm.
- Who's also friends
with Myranda.
Has Danielle ever met Myranda?
- Mm-hmm.
They used to dance together.
- Okay--
- Do they have photos together
or anything like that?
- No.
- When you saw Danielle,
did you ask her
about Myranda in person?
- At that time,
Myranda was disappeared,
so--and she didn't come up
in that conversation.
- So there's no guarantee that
this Danielle on Facebook
is the same Danielle
that you've talked to
in real life, in person.
- Like, I don't know.
- Can I see some
of the messages
that you and Myranda
write to each other?
[tense music]
Oh, this is when she started
talking to you again.
- Mm-hmm.
- Okay.
So this is from,
like, a week ago.
You said, "I love you so much,
I hate you."
Then she said, "I love you
so much that I hate you" also.
- This is a very
Gemini conversation.
Only Geminis say
[bleep] like that.
- Then you both said
I love you.
"Call me...send a picture."
- Oh, she's cute.
- Oh, she's really cute.
And you guys got
into another argument.
You guys, like, argue a lot.
She says, "I care for you
in a deep, romantic way.
I passionately care for you."
I don't wanna hurt you.
I mean, I don't know.
It looks like you definitely
have feelings for her.
- Yeah, as a friend,
but I don't have--
- Mm, I don't know about that.
- This is a lot--
I said a lot of hurtful
things in there.
- I know, but you also
say a lot of very sweet,
romantic things in there.
I understand it's
like a love-hate.
- Yeah.
- And that's obvious.
But there's a lot
of love there still.
- Yeah, it's still there
because I've been holding onto
that, like, for seven years.
- Right.
- So it's like--I don't know.
I probably do have--still
have feelings for her,
but it's not strong enough
for me to push Tatyanna away.
- Does Tatyanna know
about that?
- No.
I didn't tell her that part.
- Mm-hmm.
- I understand why
Tatyanna's concerned.
You've got a long history
with this girl.
It's a tough situation for you.
We gotta figure this out.
So send us an email
with any phone numbers,
Facebook pages, and hopefully
we'll find something.
And we'll report back.
- Okay.
- We got work to do.
- Yeah.
- Oh, boy.
- [laughs]
See you tomorrow.
Ay-yi-yi.
[tense music]
- There's always more.
- Always.
♪ ♪
- I believe that
he really like Tatyanna,
but there's no way if Myranda
somehow shows up, and--
- Is who she says she is.
- Well, and that's not gonna be
a very difficult decision
for him.
- He has so much history
with Myranda.
- Right.
- And he's not really
letting on, I don't think,
how much he truly loves
and cares about her.
- What I think he's trying
to convince himself of
is that he's not still
romantically interested in her.
- Right.
I'm not buying it.
♪ ♪
- ♪ We're A-OK
no matter what they say ♪
♪ We're A-OK ♪
♪ ♪
♪ We're A-OK ♪
- Let's do it.
So let's just recap here.
Gemini has been talking
to Myranda for seven years.
Myranda's sort of
very hot a cold.
She gets mad at him
when he tries to say things
about meeting up or FaceTiming.
So he's now met and involved
with a beautiful, young woman,
Tatyanna, who he really likes
and wants to be with.
So he's trying to decide,
is this the time to move on,
or meet Myranda
and see if there's actually
a place for her in his future?
- Right.
We gonna see.
- All right, so let's see
what we got here.
"Hey Nev and Kamie, here are
all the Facebook accounts
"I have for the girls.
"Myranda's page,
Danielle's page.
"And here's
the phone numbers I have.
Can't wait to hear
what you dig up."
All right, so I think we should
just start with Danielle
'cause Danielle
apparently knows Gemini.
They've met before.
And she claims that she's met
and is friends with Myranda.
- Right, but
is the real Danielle
the person he's been
talking to on Facebook?
Or is she a completely
different person?
- Right, so is this
actually her Facebook page?
- "Jill of All Trades."
- Right, she's
a party promoter,
she's a former model.
- She's a former model
at "Model,"
which is very convincing.
[laughs]
- You think we should see
if this is a fake page?
Like, search the photos?
- Yeah.
- All right.
Wait, whoa, here we go.
We got a hit.
both: Danii Banks.
- Okay, so this is
her Instagram.
Verified.
- 2 million--
- 2.6 million followers.
- Oh, God.
- Wow, this must be
a real girl.
- Yeah.
- Let's send her a message.
"Hey, Danii.
Someone is pretending
to be you."
Boom.
All right.
So we sent the real
Danii Banks a message.
All right, so now,
let's just run the photos.
- For Myranda?
- Myranda.
[eerie music]
Let's see if there's a hit.
- Nope.
- Nope.
♪ ♪
- Nope.
[phone ringing]
both: Oh!
- FaceTime.
- Wow.
- This must be Danii.
I love it.
I love it.
This girl knows what's up.
both: Hey.
- Hi, I can't believe
it's really you.
- [laughs]
- So what's going on?
- We're trying to help this
guy in Texas named Gemini.
Gemini thinks he's been friends
with you for a long time.
I guess primarily
through Facebook.
- Here's the problem.
I don't have Facebook.
- Okay, and you don't know
anyone named Gemini in Houston?
- No.
[laughs]
- Wait a second.
What I don't understand is
he claims to also have met you
because, I guess, you've gone
to--you've done some video--
- Music videos?
- Music videos, I guess,
or have you been to Houston
on some work stuff, or--
- Yes, I have been to Houston
for a music video.
- He was under the impression
that you knew who he was.
- No.
[laughs]
- Okay, well--
You guys probably
spoke briefly,
but you probably didn't know
who he actually was.
But he was being friendly,
and you were probably
just talking back?
- That makes perfect sense.
- Right.
- It's all strange.
- [laughs]
- It's all strange.
- Well, yeah, it's not me,
so I feel bad that
that's happening to him.
- It's good he's getting
some answers finally.
Thanks Danii.
- Bye.
- Bye.
- Bye.
He said his name,
and she was like,
"Oh, okay.
You're at this shoot.
You must--maybe
I met you yest--I don't..."
Like she has
no [bleep] idea who he is.
- No, he's like, "Gemini,"
and she's like, "Oh."
Nobody is cross-pollinating
these conversations.
This is the problem.
- Okay, so let's just take
Myranda's phone number
and see what comes up.
[bleep] Taylor.
- Wait, is [bleep] Taylor
not the same name as
Ashley Taylor's grandmother
that died?
Is that not the same person?
Bock-bock bitch, Ashley Taylor?
- Oh, my God.
- Why she gotta be a bird?
- Well, bock-bock bitch.
- Bock bitch?
- If I have
to see this girl again,
I swear on everything,
I'm quitting.
- It--it could be!
- She's from Texas.
Look it up.
- Oh, my God.
- You guys.
- I think I have
everyone's numbers in here.
Wait.
- This is what
I've been saying!
This is what I said.
I told you.
How could you forget?
How could you forget?
I'm not doing this.
Good-bye.
Goodbye, everyone.
It's been nice.
[laughs]
But I'm not [bleep] doing it.
- [laughs]
You gotta be kidding me.
- I told you.
- It's the same number.
I can't believe it.
Wow.
- She needs help.
- Right.
It's her.
I can't believe it's her.
- Are you kidding me?
- She told me
she was gonna try and stop.
- She said
she was addicted, Nev.
- She lied to me.
- [laughs]
- Well, so what do we do?
'Cause this is
a real thing for Gemini.
Gemini should meet her
so that he can move on
for his own sake.
- How am I supposed to move on?[laughs]
- Is there a way to do that
without giving her
the stage again?
- We lure her in.
- Right.
- Boom.
Intervention.
- Yes, and we should
find some people in her life
that we could gather together
who might be able
to actually get through to her.
Let's go to Gemini
and show him who that is.
And then we'll figure out
what we should do after that.
Our work is not
done here, Kamie.
- You get to tell him.
- Fine.
- 'Cause I can't tell him
without any bias.
- Ay-yi-yi.
- Gemini's in
for a real treat.
- ♪ Guess who's back ♪
- Yeah, Shady is back.
There needs to be
some kind of support group
for people whose lives
have been affected.
We have to think of the best
way to convince her to stop.
She's been doing this
for 12 years of her life.
- Okay.
Here we are.
[ambient music]
- [sighs]
- Oh.
all: Hello.
- How are you guys doing?
- Good.
- All right, well,
I think we can explain
and answer a lot
of what's going on here.
- Okay.
- So buckle up.
So the first thing
we looked at is Danielle.
We ran this image,
and it brought us
to an Instagram account.
And it's a verified page
for someone named Danii Banks.
- [laughs]
Hmm.
- So she FaceTimed us,
and I explained the situation,
and she said,
"Okay, well, first of all,
I don't use Facebook."
And she doesn't know
who you are.
[tense music]
- Oh, well, I saw
what I saw, so--
- Well, right, but--well,
so maybe you were at a shoot,
so she just figured like she
should either know who you were
or maybe met you before,
and forgot who you--
Like, I think you kind of
interpreted that interaction
in a way that helps support
the possibility that you'd been
talking to her all this time.
- That's crazy.
- Right.
So that all just sort of
brings us back to,
okay, who's Myranda?
- Okay.
- I'm gonna play a clip for you
of a phone call we made
on an earlier episode of
"Catfish" from this season.
- Okay.
- And if the voice is
the same voice as Myranda...
- Mm-hmm.
- Then I think
we have our answer.
All right?
- Yeah.
- Hello?
- Hi, is this Jalissa?
- It's her.
- Hi, Jalissa.
How you doing?
I don't know
if you're familiar
with the show "Catfish."
I'm the guy on the show.
I'm trying to help
your friend, Red, meet you.
- I'm not sure about meeting
because I'm not in LA--
- Ooh.
- Anymore.
- So you were in LA.
- That's her.
- I was in LA working,
but I--
- It sounds like her.
- Yes.
- You for sure, you're sure--
- I'm for sure.
[somber music]
I knew that it was so off.
Aw, man.
This is weird.
Why do I feel like
this is a dude?
- Oh, no.
- No.
Let me show you.
- Wait.
Let's bring it up.
- That's her?
- That's her.
- This is some--
- Okay, I'm gonna talk to you.
- Okay.
- [inhales]
Oh.
- That's her.
Oh, I feel your pain, Red.
- 3,000 profiles?
- Three, comma...
- [mouthing along]
- ...zero, zero, zero.
- Who does that?
- Ashley Taylor does that.
- Aw.
- Anyway, so she's done--she--
the same thing with Red
that she's done with you.
So now we're trying
to figure out what to do.
[tense music]
- Man, this is horrible.
- 3,000 profiles, she has.
- Right, that's disgusting.
- What's so frustrating
about her is
she's not doing this
because she wants friends.
- She doing it 'cause--just
to get a kick out of people.
both: Right.
- Play with people's emotions.
- It's just fun for her.
- Which is [bleep] up,
especially considering
everything that you've been
through, that's not cool.
And she needs
to understand that there
can be serious consequences
for that kind of [bleep].
- Yeah, I like--I just
put my trust into her.
Yeah, she was always there
to, like, help me
through some situations.
That's crazy.
Wow.
- I mean, look.
Is there a chance that
collectively between you, us,
possibly also Red,
the girl from that episode,
and maybe some other
close friends of Ashley's
could have, like,
an intervention
where we call her out
on her [bleep]?
- Yeah, she
definitely need that.
- Right.
- 'Cause if it's just us,
she's gonna think this is
just a part of her little game
and her little scheme.
She's not gonna take it
as seriously,
but if it's people that
she actually knows,
maybe that'll
convince her to stop.
- And I think that
it's good for you
to close the door on this
for good,
and tell her it's over, please
don't ever contact me again,
or whatever it is
you wanna say.
- Okay, that's fine.
- What we need to do right now
is find some people who
actually know her better.
- Mm-hmm.
- Let's see if we can find
her real Facebook.
Hey, I got it.
There she is.
There's your girlfriend.
- Ain't my girlfriend.
- Someone posted
a couple days ago.
"Can you call me, please?
I've been trying
to reach you all week."
- Tomekualynn?
- All right, let's message her.
"Hey, Tomekualynn.
"Your friend, Ashley, was
recently on my show, 'Catfish.'
"Well, believe it or not,
we are filming a new episode,
"and just discovered that
Ashley is catfishing again,
"so we're trying to find a way
to help her stop.
"If you're interested
in being a part of this,
please let me know ASAP."
- Does she have
family, though?
- No, there's nothing there.
Is there anything in the--
[phone ringing]
Oh, that was fast.
- Oh, who is that?
- Hello?
- Yes?
- Okay, well, thank you.
I'm actually here right now
with someone named Gemini,
and we're trying
to figure out what to do.
- Well, that's kind of
what we were looking for.
'Cause it's hard for me and
Kamie to call her out on stuff
because we don't know
what her life has been.
- All right, well, if you can,
we'd love to bring you
to sort of have an intervention
with Ashley.
- Who is that?
- All right.
Well, that would be great.
- And do you know,
is she still living in [bleep]?
- All right, well, cool.
So, look, we'll
text you tomorrow,
we'll let you know our plan,
and we'll look forward
to meeting you.
- All right, thank you.
- Thanks, Tomekualynn.
- Thank you.
both: Bye.
- Wow, so Ashley even lies
to her best friend.
No one knows when she's
telling the truth or not.
Well, the friends are in.
Let's see if Red's down too.
- Right.
- And let her know
what's going on.
- She knows exactly what
you're going through.
[line trilling]
- Hey, Red.
Guess who.
- Oh, you thought
you were done with us?
Well, guess what.
- So check this out.
We're in Houston, Texas
doing an episode right now,
and a phone number came back
to Ashley Taylor.
all: [laugh]
- Your girl done struck again.
- So--
- Well, you gotta pray
a little harder.
So now we found some
people who really know her,
who might actually
be her friends.
We're gonna get them all
to do an intervention
without her knowing.
- We've never done
an intervention before.
- Somebody has to put a stop
to this girl.
[smooth music]
- Red is on her way
from the airport,
and then we'll hit the road,
pick up Gemini,
and then go meet Ashley's
friends, Meka, Derek.
- Yeah.
[knocking]
- Oh.
- Red alert.
- Oh, man.
- I'm here.
- [laughs]
[lively music]
- Let's go.
- I've been trying to think
of something to help her,
and I'm still thinking.
- [laughs]
We got a long drive.
- All right.
Where's our guy?
Hey.
- Hello.
- Gemini, this is Red.
- I'm Red.
How are you doing?
- I'm doing fine.
- Good.
- Here we go.
- All right.
Off to Killeen, Texas to join
up with Tomekualynn and Derek.
This is crazy
'cause we've never done
an intervention before.
- This is gonna be so epic.
- ♪ Whoo, whoo ♪
♪ ♪
♪ Hey ♪
- What have you guys
been saying?
- Man, I was just
checking on her.
I was like,
"Good morning, beautiful."
And that was weird--
- Yeah, you keep it the same.
- ♪ Yeah
we breaking the box ♪
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
♪ Oh, yeah,
we're breaking the mold ♪
- Tell Tatyanna
what happened yesterday?
- Yeah, I told her.
- What'd she say?
- Yeah?
- [laughs]
- ♪ Hey, looking for a hit ♪
♪ ♪
- A storm is coming, Ashley.
- ♪ Hit ♪
- All right, we are almost
at Tomekualynn's house.
- We made it, guys.
[doorbell chimes]
both: Hey.
- Hi.
- Come in.
- What's up, you guys?
- What's up, y'all?
Come in.
- I'm Meka.
This is Derek.
- Derek?
All right.
- Nice to meet you.
- I'm Nev.
- Nice to meet you.
I'm Kamie.
- I'm Red.
- How are you doing, Red?
- Whole gang.
- I'm Gemini.
- This is our squad now.
- So, hello.
- Hello.
- Hi, Nev.
- Thanks for meeting up
with us.
Long story short, Gemini has
been talking to Ashley now
for over seven years
as a few different people,
and only now realized it.
- Wow.
- What struck us the most
in finding you guys is
the fact that on Red's episode,
Ashley was saying
she doesn't have any friends.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, I know.
I confronted her about it.
- And we see that that's
different because--
- Well, and Derek?
- I'm very close with her,
and we're very close.
But as far as--she's
probably the closest.
- Like, I know her mom,
dad, grandmother,
pretty much
her whole entire family.
- And does she have
a relatively happy childhood?
I mean--
- She really didn't--
she didn't live impoverished.
She had a--
- Yeah.
- She had pretty much what
she needed and what she wanted.
But understand, she has
always been a big girl,
and you know how kids are.
And there was a lot of teasing
and stuff like that,
so it made her--
- I'ma get you
before could get me.
- Exactly.
- But, I mean,
her being where she is now,
me being with her every day,
trying to get her to--
encourage her
to not do this stuff,
and her mom too,
it didn't change anything.
Like, with me, she can't lie
to me because most of the stuff
she says, like pretending
to have a husband and kids.
- You know her.
- Yeah, so I know
the real her.
So I can tell when she lies.
The husband ain't real.
- We gotta do something.
I mean, in the ten years
of doing this,
I've never met a person
that needs our help more.
The situation now is,
she doesn't know
that we're with Gemini.
She definitely doesn't know
that we're in town
with you guys.
So I can call her right now
and I can say,
"Hey, Kamie and I
are helping Gemini.
He wants to talk to you."
And not obviously tell her
that we're already here,
and that everyone together.
And then,
tomorrow we can all
kind of really
get through to her.
Well, I guess I gotta
call Ashley again.
- Good luck.
[line trilling]
- Guess who.
- Hey, Ashley.
I'm here with Gemini.
And it wasn't super hard
to figure out obviously
that he's been talking to you
all these years.
- And he--he wants
to meet you.
So we were wondering if
we could drive up from Houston
tomorrow and make that happen.
- Okay.
Bye.
- All right,
so we'll let you know
when we hear from her
in the morning,
and we'll tell you where
to meet us and figure it out.
- Sounds like a plan.
- She's gonna come.
She can't resist the drama.
- Ashley texted me that
she's ready to meet,
so let's give her a call.
[line trilling]
- Hey, Ashley.
- So we're here, we got Gemini,
and we can go round two.
- All right.
That's fine.
We could have someone
from the show pick you up.
- Bye.
Let's go collect
Gemini and Red.
Meka and Derek are
gonna meet us here.
Team is assembled,
and we will roll out.
- Catfish Avengers.
- ♪ I can't stand, waiting
around to dance, uh-huh ♪
- Yo.
- Hey.
- We're ready to roll
if you are.
- ♪ Already ♪
both: Hey.
- All red everything.
- All right!
- It's our posse.
- What's up?
- Hey, guys.
- What's up, man?
- Hi.
- We are the squad, so--
- Squad.
[line trilling]
- Good morning, Tatyanna.
- So how do you feel
about me going to see her?
- ♪ Don't sit around
and complain about it ♪
- Y'all better hope
she act right today.
I gave her a pass last time.
- Yeah, same.
- I have no more [bleep]
to give.
- Fresh out.
- ♪ Don't sit around
and complain about it ♪
- You guys ready?
We're here.
[tense music]
- Let's go, posse.
- All right.
♪ ♪
Here's the plan.
Gemini, you're gonna hang here
with me and Kamie.
You guys will be in here.
Obviously, you know,
we're close,
so try not to make any noise.
Don't wanna give away
your position.
After Gemini and Ashley get
a chance to talk for a minute,
I'll come in with her.
We'll see how that goes.
All right, so hang tight.
We'll be right outside.
Oh, she texted me.
She's here.
All right.
- How do you feel?
- My stomach is like...
[dramatic music]
I don't know.
Oh.
[sighs]
♪ ♪
- Hello again.
- Hey, y'all.
- Hey, Myranda.
- Well, Gemini.
Here she is.
Myranda, AKA--
- Danielle.
- Danielle and Ashley.
- Thanks for coming.
- Yeah.
- We're really just here
to give him an opportunity
to get some closure
to this whole thing.
- Like, why did you do it
in the first place?
Like what is--what
was you looking for?
- Nothing from you.
- Hey--the hell?
- Well, did you have feelings?
- No--no.
He's a great guy, but he's
just got, you know, issues.
- What you think you got?
- No, I'm just--
I'm just saying,
like, you're a great guy,
you're a great friend.
It happened.
It was a joke.
- It was a joke?
Seven years?
All right.
Ain't nobody find it funny
but you.
- I only came here today
'cause I wanted to make amends.
I've done that,
so can I go now?
- No, I think
he had questions--
- Okay, and I'm--
I'm not answering him
because right now, it's
gonna get heated between us.
- I'm out. Like, I don't
even care no more.
Like, you selfish.
You don't care
about nobody but yourself.
- He's upset obviously.
And I think it's justified--
- He always gets upset.
We're both done.
That's a wrap.
- Let me quickly
just talk to Gemini.
I'm gonna take him
inside the room for a second.
- Please do.
- And cool him off,
and then we'll come back out.
- I'm not doing it this time.
If we don't do this, then
I will go back to the crib.
- Ashley, I don't know
what you're expecting.
- We got as much
from that conversation
as we're gonna get.
You guys can just be here.
You all right, man?
- Yeah, I'm good.
I just wanna
get this over with.
I don't care no more.
- All right.
I'm gonna go get her
and I'll bring her in.
I'll be right back.
All right, he's in there.
He's calmed down.
Why don't we go in there,
and we could try this again?
- [sighs]
Oh, Lord.
[suspenseful music]
♪ ♪
Oh, damn.
- Come on in.
- No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- They love you
and care about you.
- As you can see,
we brought some people here
from your life.
- Mm-hmm.
This an intervention?
- Yes.
- Kind of.
- You set me up.
- Well--
- That's how
interventions work.
- Yeah.
Let's have a seat.
So, look, call it
whatever you want,
I care about you as a person
who exists right now.
Obviously, you need
to stop the catfishing,
but maybe,
before you can do that,
you need to realize
that there are people,
specifically these two
who you've known a long time--
- Mm-hmm.
- Who want you to be happy
and be honest,
and live a life that's
fulfilling and rewarding.
We're here and we wanna know
how you feel,
and we wanna be helpful
if we can.
- I love you,
but I'm not finna sit here
and applaud your [bleep]
'cause I know
you're better than this.
The whole point
of being on this show is
for these people
to get their answers,
not for you to come in here
and make this a joke,
and act like this
isn't hurting them.
And, like, you're just
completely, deep down,
okay with what you're doing
to these people.
What about your real life?
Not this person
you're pretending to be.
All this effort you're putting
into all these lies,
you could put it into finding
yourself a real husband,
not one that
you gotta lie about.
Yeah, the smile's gone now,
isn't it?
And that's coming from me,
your big sister,
who actually loves you
and cares about the real you,
not this person
you're pretending to be
because it's not okay.
- It's crazy.
All I'm asking you is why.
Why you couldn't be yourself?
- And that's one question.
He's just asking one.
- This was a joke.
I'm bad and I'm sorry, but--
- That's not a joke.
You wasted seven years
of this young man's life.
- I'm not doing this.
I'm not doing this.
- Ashley, hold on, hold on.
- Then what you come here for?
If you didn't want to do this--
- I'm not doing this [bleep]!
- It's not [bleep].
- I'm not doing this.
- Ashley.
You all right?
- I'm--I'm fine.
- You sure?
- I'm fine.
- She left 'cause
she ain't wanna start crying
'cause that's where
she was headed.
- Yeah.
- But what happened to you
that was so bad for you
to do all this to people?
- [sniffles]
- You feel like you're
being attacked, huh?
- [cries]
Yeah, I do.
Like how dare you sit there
and talk about my marriage
and for her to say
that it's [bleep].
Then you don't know what
the [bleep] I'm going through.
Yeah, I get it.
I hurt people, I get that.
But don't sit up here
and don't talk about,
"What about your husband?"
Like, don't do that.
- You know I didn't come here
to attack you.
It's all about love, baby.
- That's the thing, though.
They [bleep] ambushed me.
Y'all don't know what the
[bleep] I've been going through
the last three years.
- You're gonna be all right.
- I'ma get this over with
'cause I'm ready to go home.
Like the--how
the [bleep] you know?
Like you don't know
what [bleep] hell
this person put me through
these last [bleep] three years.
- Well, tell us.
We wanna know.
- Don't talk to me
right now, Nev.
Thank you.
- Okay.
Well, we'll be here
if you wanna let us in
and tell us what's up.
[somber music]
- Oh, my God.
♪ ♪
This is [bleep] crazy.
- What was she saying?
- Mainly she felt like
you brought up,
I guess, her husband.
It triggered her because--
- It doesn't [bleep] matter.
- It triggered her because
the husband ain't [bleep] real.
- Exactly.
- Let me just go back in here
'cause I'm ready to go home.
Come on, Derek.
Let's go.
- So you're not
gonna talk to me?
- No, I'm not.
I don't--
- Why?
- No, I'm not.
I don't wanna do this.
No.
- No, you're gonna talk
to me face-to-face
'cause you doing all
this yelling and stuff,
and I understand you hurt.
- No, you don't.
- But we're supposed
to be best friends.
How are we supposed
to understand,
and you won't say nothing?
I sit here
and tell you everything.
When grandma died, I was
the one who was there for you,
not these people that
are your fake friends.
Holding it in is
gonna make it worse.
You gotta tell somebody.
Grandma's not here to listen.
You could at least
explain to them
why you did
what you did to them.
Why it felt like a joke to you.
Why it was funny to you.
Why you felt like it made
you feel better to hurt them.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm not bringing up
your husband to be funny,
but I'm saying if there
really was your husband--
- Nobody knows what the [bleep]
this man--this person was
going through these
last couple of years.
- We're just here to listen.
- Exactly.
- We're here because
we want to know you.
We want to get
to know the real Ashley,
and we need to understand how
to separate that from the lies.
- Where should I start?
- Your husband.
Where'd you meet him?
- Well, we met on Instagram.
Everything was going great.
He loses his job,
and he's just like--became
a downward spiral from there.
- Are you still married?
- Yeah, like me and him,
we--we still together, like--
- What's his name?
- His name--his name...
His name--his name is...
Well, his whole name is Sergio
Geronimo Perez, but yeah.
- What's it gonna take
to get you to stop?
- I don't do that no more.
I have a lot of stuff going on.
- You were just doing it
with him.
- This was the last one.
- Well, Ashley, I'm gonna be
flat-out honest with you
'cause I feel like we could be
real with each other.
I don't believe a word
that comes out of your mouth.
But my concern is that you
have isolated yourself so much
from the people who love you
and the people who do know you,
that you have--you have created
your own little world
where you think that you're all
by yourself, and you're not.
- I'm never alone.
What are you talking about?
- You went on national TV
and said you have nobody.
You don't have no friends,
no family you can depend on.
Every time you've ever
called me, I've been there,
even when I have
my own stuff going on.
So how say
you don't have anybody?
- I'm a close--I'm--I don't
talk about my business.
I'm a closed person.
What happens in my personal
life, it's my personal life,
and it is what it is--
- But I let you
into my personal life.
- Okay.
- I think that you are
losing sight of yourself.
Ashley needs to do
soul-searching
to figure out who Ashley is,
and what Ashley deserves,
and what Ashley wants.
- But she is soul-searching.
She's gonna do a lot
of soul-searching
when I--when
I leave here.
- This [bleep] keeps
getting better.
- It's crazy.
She still don't care
after all this.
- Exactly.
- No, you--
- No, I'm done.
I just wanna say my piece.
Can I talk to you real quick?
- Please, no.
- Huh?
- Let the man talk to you.
- [sighs]
- 'Cause you could say
what you want to,
but for you to carry on
with her or him
for as long as you did,
you had to have
some type of feeling.
- Like, I really don't
care about this no more.
I hope you find the--
the help that you need,
and I hope you find yourself,
and hope you stop doing this.
Like, we could've been friends.
I just hope you
really find yourself--
- Okay.
- Basically.
Well, take care.
- All right.
Have a safe trip home.
[tense music]
♪ ♪
- Well, you can
put on the front
like you don't give a [bleep]
about any of this,
but at the end of the day,
when you lay down at night,
and there are moments when you
are just Ashley by herself,
that person
needs to be happy.
- Mm-hmm.
- Is there a part of you,
even a small part,
that acknowledges that
you could use some help?
- I mean, I'm not crazy.
- I didn't say--
- I--I know what
you're saying, Nev,
but I'm just telling you.
- I just mean support, help--
- I get--get it, Nev.
I get what you're saying.
Sometimes I feel like,
you know what,
let me just hold it in
'cause I know if I let it out,
it's not gonna be good
when I let it out.
- And it's not gonna be good
when you hold it in
for ten years.
- Look, the best--I think
the best we can do is
just show you that if you're
going through something
and feel like
there's nowhere to go,
there is somewhere to go.
- Always.
With me, anyway.
- And rather than starting
a new conversation
with someone online
as another person,
there's an opportunity for you
to just connect as yourself
with people in your life.
- Mm-hmm.
- I'm glad we got to do this.
- Oh.
I'm gonna do
some soul-searching
when I leave here.
I'm gonna do
some soul-searching
when I'm in the car.
I'm gonna do some
heavy soul-searching.
- All right, so let's say
our goodbyes for now.
- And you know what, Ashley?
I'm gonna give you a hug
this time.
- Hold on.
Back up now.
No, no, no, no, no.
What the hell you doing?
- I'm about to give you
a bear hug.
- You're not finna bear hug me.
Get away from me.
- ♪ Living in hard times ♪
- Wasn't that nice?
- It was good seeing you, Nev.
- All right.
- Pick your chin up.
- ♪ Nobody's got the answers ♪
- Pick it up.
Thank you, sport.
- All right.
Bye, Ashley.
- Bye, Ashley.
- ♪ Maybe when you're older
you'll know it better ♪
♪ Maybe when you're older ♪
♪ You'll know it better ♪
♪ Maybe when you're older
you'll know it better ♪
♪ Maybe when you're older
you'll learn how to love ♪
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