Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 7, Episode 23 - Truth & Ray'Quan - full transcript
Nev and guest co-host Zeke Thomas set out to help fashion design student Truth find out if his online crush Ray'Quan is the real deal.
- Oh, boy.
We got a situation.
Truth loves Ray'Quan,
"but we've never FaceTimed."
- Do you not have
a lot of people
who you feel like
you can confide in?
- I live in LA.
This is the land
of the fake and the phony.
I'm about to be like,
on TV looking crazy right now.
Oh, my God.
- Oh.
[dramatic musical sting]
[upbeat music]
- Hello.
- Zeke!
- What's up, man?
- Hi.
Nice to meet you.
- Zeke Thomas,
son of Hall of Fame
basketball player
Isaiah Thomas,
has paved his own path
as a renowned DJ and producer.
When he's not spinning
at the club,
he's traveling the country
speaking out against
sexual assault.
A modern-day Renaissance man,
we are so thrilled
to have Zeke.
- Nice to meet you.
- Welcome to the show.
- Thank you.
- So,
Little bit more about yourself.
When did you get started
into music?
- So, my dad being
a basketball player,
we actually had a basketball
court in our house.
- Indoor.
- And...indoor.
Whenever he was practicing
and I would be with him,
I was always
more concerned with
what we were listening to.
So we'd be, like,
shooting hoops,
and all of the sudden
I'd be like,
"Okay, we gotta change
the song."
So from then on
it was just like
music was my dream.
Worked my way up from there.
- Nice.
And when you travel
and you speak
about sexual assault--
because that was an experience
that you went through.
- Yeah, so, unfortunately,
I met a person on an app
and we went on a date.
I was actually drugged
and then assaulted.
- That's terrible.
I'm sorry.
- It was an unfortunate
situation.
But it just went
to prove to me that
not everybody is who they
present themselves to be.
- Right.
- I didn't really
do my homework.
And I want people
to do their homework.
- Right.
- And I think, you know, that's
the reason I'm excited
to come onto the show.
- Awesome. Why don't we, uh,
dig in?
- I'm nervous, but I'm ready.
- You're gonna be great.
Whoa.
We got an email here
from Truth.
"Hey Nev and Zeke, I'm Truth.
I'm 23 years young..."
- That's making us feel old.
- Yeah, I know, right?
- [laughing]
- ♪ I'm 23 ♪
- "I'm a fashion design
student in Los Angeles,
and I'm in dire need
of your help."
- ♪ This ain't about you ♪
♪ This is about me ♪
- "Six months ago,
I met Ray'Quan
"in an Instagram group chat.
"Ray'Quan is 22, and I think
He lives in Trenton,
New Jersey."
- ♪ Is it all in my head,
what they said? ♪
- "When I joined the group,
I noticed Ray'Quan
Was subtly flirting with me."
- ♪ I'm feeling
misunderstood ♪
- "So I reached out to him
privately.
"After messaging for a bit,
we exchanged numbers
"and began to converse
on the phone
"through both text messaging
and talking.
"He's a great listener,
"and when I tell him
my problems,
"he gives me great advice.
Compared to all the fake
people I've met in LA..."
- There are no fake people
in the tri-state area.
- Yeah, exactly.
- "Ray'Quan was something new
and refreshing."
- ♪ I fall in and out
of love ♪
- "But"--there's the "but."
- All right.
- "As great as Ray'Quan
sounds..."
- ♪ I really don't know
what I'm doing ♪
- "We've never successfully
FaceTimed."
- That's a red flag.
- "And two months ago,
I told him
"I had purchased a ticket
to come and see him.
"But when the time came
for me to visit,
He changed his mind."
- ♪ I'm feeling
misunderstood ♪
- "And I realized he might
be hiding something.
"I haven't questioned him
as much as I should,
"because when I do
ask questions,
he'll block or ignore me."
- Block?
- "That may not be ideal
for other people
and their relationships,
but I like a little crazy."
- So you're crazy.
Okay. We got a crazy one.
- Oh, yeah.
"I can deal with his temper..."
"I'm seriously in despair.
"You're my last resort,
"and I hope to hear
from you soon.
Truth."
This episode's gonna be tricky.
Because the person
we're trying to help,
their name is Truth.
So every time
we're talking about them,
and whether or not
they're getting lied to,
it's gonna be confusing.
- It's going to be confusing.
- Right.
Is Truth getting the truth?
- Is Truth getting the truth?
Is Truth the liar?
- Can we trust Truth?
- I don't know.
- I don't know.
- [laughing]
- Why don't we just get
a little bit more
from Truth here.
[FaceTime ringing]
Hey.
- Truth.
- Hey.
- What's up?
- I love your hair.
- Thank you, thank you,
thank you.
I just dyed it.
- Wow, is that--
- I just did mine too.
- Sorry, I should
introduce you.
So, Truth, this is Zeke.
- Pleasure to meet youas well.
- He's helping me out
on this episode.
We just read your email.
So you're in Los Angeles?
- Yes.
- And you're at a school
for design, you said?
- Yeah, fashion design.
- Nice.
- So I have a question for you
off the bat.
You were in a group chat
with this individual.
- Right.
- Ray'Quan.
Who else was in
this group chat?
- A mutual friend
between ours, Kevon,
and then some other people.
- Kevon, is that a real--
a friend that you know
in person,
or just like a friend from...
- From Instagram.
I never met him.
- Right.
In the group chat,
he's been mean.
I don't like him.
Kevon, he got an attitude.
Like, he's this very--
a dark cloud, negative.
- So you didn't know anybody
in this group chat
personally.
- No.
- Tell us what you do know
about Ray'Quan.
- The first month
we was just, like,
getting to know each other.
And then I was like,
"Okay, I kinda like him."
'Cause he's, like,
a great listener.
Usually when we're talking
I, like, vent a lot
about what I'm going through
and, like, what's going on
in my life.
And he gives great advice
and, like, good feedback.
- But he always says no
to FaceTime?
- Yeah, he has, like,
a lot of excuses
about why his phone's
not working.
I don't wanna keep bugging
him about FaceTime
because he, like, gets mad
sometimes and he blocks me.
So I was like, okay,
better not make him mad.
Because I don't want to get
blocked for a week again.
- You got blocked for a week?
And then you still
talking to him?
- Yeah. I like crazy people.
I'm attracted to crazy.
- How do you know for sure
he's in New Jersey?
- Now you're making me think.
I don't know.
I hope he's there.
That's what he told me.
- Oh, now you got
his mind working.
Truth gotta find the truth.
- All right, well, look.
You're in Los Angeles.
We're in Los Angeles too.
Why don't we plan on meeting up
tomorrow morning
to see if we can
figure this out?
- We gotta do something,
'cause I'm over it.
- Maybe you could have
an outfit or something ready
for Zeke here.
You could try--
you could style him.
- Yeah, 'cause you need
some help.
- Oh!
- You know what?
Okay.
Okay, Truth.
- We'll see you
tomorrow, Truth.
- All right, bye.
- I'm not sure Truth
is telling the truth.
- Really?
- Something's not computing.
- You think he's leaving
something out?
- Yes.
- All right, well,
I'll see you in the morning
and we'll find out.
Come ready for a makeover.
- ♪ Feeling like a boss ♪
♪ And staring at the stars ♪
- Here we are.
In the Valley.
- In the Valley.
- ♪ Everybody ♪
♪ Wants to be famous ♪
- Let's do it.
- ♪ Staring at the stars ♪
- Hey.
- Hello!
- Hey, what's up?
- How's it going?
- This morning I actually
really was thinking about
what I was wearing,
because you were ripping me
yesterday.
- Okay. Okay.
- Oh, here we go.
- I made all of these.
- You made all these?
- Yeah. I'm about to be famous.
- All right, well,
we gotta have a show.
- We need music.
- Oh, he takes it off.
Whoa.
- ♪ Everybody wants
to be famous ♪
♪ Everybody wants ♪
- So here we are.
You gave us, like,
a little description
of kinda what's been going on.
- Right.
- Your friend invites you
into this group chat.
- Kevon.
- Well, we're not friends.
He's, like, fake.
- Fake, like, not the person--
- No, like a fake person.
Like...
- Right.
- Somebody that...
- He's not a good person--
- He's just...
- Got it.
- 'Cause, like, he's,
like, in the industry,
like, styling, but,
- All right. So.
Like, just kinda take us back
to that first day
when you first sort of
set your eyes on Ray'Quan.
- Okay, so, we were, like,
in this group chat
on Instagram.
And we were, like, sending
memes and fashion stuff.
After, like, a week
of doing that,
I was like, "Okay, well,
let me DM him separately."
And then we just
started texting.
We were just, like,
getting to know each other
or what do you like to do,
what I like to do.
Like, I was venting and telling
him about my life,
what I want to do and who I am
and stuff like that.
Majority of the time
we're on the phone,
I talk more than him.
That's why I say
he's a great listener.
- Do you generally not have
a lot of people around you
who you feel like
you can confide in?
- I live in LA.
This is the land
of the fake and the phony.
- Well, let's talk
about that for a second.
So, 'cause, here you are
in Los Angeles,
one of the hubs
of gay community.
- Mm-hmm.
- Can't you find someone
you'd be interested in here?
- Because I've kinda--
I've been dating somebody else.
- Okay. Okay.
- Okay.
- There we go.
- Spill the tea.
- It's a girl.
both: Oh.
- Is that, like, kind of
a serious thing, or...
- Yeah, we've been dating
for a year.
- Really?
Does she know about...
- No.
- Ray'Quan?
- You do like the drama.
- The drama likes me.
I don't like drama.
Drama likes me.
- Are you guys, like,
taking a break, or...
- No.
But Cierra just went back home
for, like, six months,
and then she's gonna come back.
I was like, well,
might as well try to...
see what's up with him 'cause
she's gonna be gone
for a while.
And I'm, like, bored--
I don't want to be bored.
- Does Ray'Quan know that
you have a girlfriend?
- No.
- Does Cierra think
you guys are exclusive
and monogamous?
- Yes.
- Does Cierra know
that you also date men?
- No.
But I love both of them.
We could all be a throuple.
I think we could be, like,
I want to be with
the both of them.
- Okay.
- Do you think she'd be down?
- You never know.
- Wow.
- Cierra makes you happy?
- Yeah, she's, like,
really good.
Like, to talk to too, and--
- So why--what's
stopping commitment?
- I'm only 23,
and I'm not trying to be,
like, married right now.
- Fair.
- Yeah.
But I do think Cierra deserves
the respect of being kinda
filled in on the situation.
While we want to help you,
we also don't wanna participate
in what Cierra would probably
think of as cheating.
It'd be nice, I think,
to kinda fill her in.
So think about how and when
you want to do that.
- Okay.
- Okay. Can we see a picture
of Ray'Quan?
- Okay.
- Show us your...
- Your profile.
- Your conversation with him.
- This is my profile.
That's me.
Y'all know that's me.
- Oh, you got 38,000 followers?
- Yeah, I'm lit.
You know.
- You got 38,000?
- Okay, okay.
- Look at me. I'm lit.
- You got more than me.
- Yeah.
- And can you show us--
- Cierra?
- Yeah. So this is her page.
- She's very pretty.
- I made that.
- Oh.
- You made that outfit.
- You made that?
- Wow.
- You are very talented.
- And show us, uh, Ray'Quan.
Is that him, or?
- Yeah.
- Okay. He's
a good-looking guy.
- Can we look at the messages?
- Okay.
We was, like,
sending different memes,
and, like...
We were texting earlier
and I was like,
"Can you call me
on your break?"
He's been mean lately.
He gets so mad
when I call him babe or bae.
- That's interesting.
- I don't know why he
be acting like that.
He's just a private person.
- I mean, is it possible--
have you ever considered
that maybe he's not
that into you?
- I think y'all are reaching.
- You guys ever say
"I love you"?
- I say it, but he'd be like,
"Yeah..."
- Like on the phone?
- Yeah.
He'd be like, "Uh-huh. Bye."
- Oh.
- He's never said it back.
- No, not that
I can recollect. No.
- We've got our work
cut out for us.
Send us an email
with everybody's profiles.
We'll see what we can find
and we'll meet back up
tomorrow.
I'm ready to dive in.
- I, like, really
wanna dive in.
[all laughing]
- It was nice meeting you.
- You too.
- Thank you so much.
[mysterious music]
- Oh, boy.
We got a situation.
- Potential situation-ship
boyfriend.
And a girlfriend.
- And she doesn't even know
he likes guys,
much less is dating one.
It's a lot.
- It's a lot!
- It's a lot.
- We have a major situation.
- You were right.
You called it.
- Truth was not telling
the whole truth.
- All right.
[groans]
Before we get started,
let's have a little treat.
- Can we "cheers"?
To Truth!
- Oh, yours,
yours is, like, giant
compared to mine.
- [laughing]
- Let's just recap.
- Mm-kay.
Truth, 23 years old,
let's call him bisexual.
He has Ray'Quan.
- Met him on Instagram
in a group chat.
- And they were
introduced by...
- A guy named Kevon.
- Kevon.
Truth is currently dating
a girl, Cierra,
for a year.
- He's dating two people.
So now we've gotta figure out,
who is Ray'Quan?
Is he the guy in the pictures
who lives in New Jersey
or someone else?
Quite a debacle.
- It is.
- It's a mess.
- Truth sent an email.Mm-kay.
- Ray'Quan's phone number,
his Instagram.
Selfie.gawdd.
"I don't have a number
for Kevon"--
right, 'cause they've
never met in person--
"But here's his Instagram."
Okay, let's just search
Ray'Quan's phone number.
We'll do a quick search here...
See what we get.
No name.
- Trenton, New Jersey, however.
- Okay, New Jersey checks out.
All right, so here are
pictures of Ray'Quan.
And let's see
if any of these come up.
All right. First one.
both: No.
Second pic.
Okay, nothing.
Last picture.
- Oh--no.
- Nothing on the pictures.
So let's just look a little bit
at his Instagram.
This is Ray'Quan's Instagram.
Selfie.gawdd.
- Six pictures.
How many followers
does he have?
- 2,700.
I mean, this feels like
a fake account.
- Let's look at the comments.
- Yeah, let's go
to the first post.
All right. Here we go.
This guy, hymnsofly,
commented on Ray'Quan's
oldest picture.
- The oldest picture.
Is he commenting
on anything else?
- Yes, the most recent photo.
Hymnsofly, "3 more weeks
I can't wait."
Maybe they know each other
in real life.
- Who's hymnsofly?
- Yeah.
His name is Dedrick.
- Private account.
- But we could message
and just say, like,
"How do you know Ray'Quan?"
Let's try hymnsofly.
- Hymnsofly...
- All right.
[chime]
All right, so we sent
a message to Dedrick.
So let's just look
to see if Ray'Quan
is tagged on Instagram.
Is he tagged in anything?
Okay, so this guy tagged
Ray'Quan in a photo.
Ray'Quan commented
"I miss you."
Who is this?
- That's Kevon.
That's the friend.
- You're right!
So wait a second.
- That's Kevon.
- So there it is.
- So Kevon...
is in a picture
and personally knows Ray'Quan.
- This is a big deal.
That's huge.
- That is huge.
- Okay. We need
to message Kevon.
If he can confirm that he
does, in fact, know Ray'Quan,
that'd be huge.
So sending.
All right, great.
Okay, so now we've got
messages out
to Dedrick
and this other guy, Kevon,
who...
- Yes.
- Is the link.
- Who's the link.
- And in the photo
with Ray'Quan.
- We've not searched for Kevon
on Facebook.
- All right,
let's do that.
Oh, yeah, there he is.
- Self-employed...
- Let's just see
what's on his page.
Wait, what's this?
Kevon was in Trenton.
- Okay, Kevon was in Trenton.
"Coming home tomorrow."
- Wait a second.
Trenton.
Exactly the same as Ray'Quan.
Huh.
Oh. Whoa!
Holy [bleep].
Kevon's Facebook--
look at the URL.
- Oh, boy.
- Kevon's Facebook URL
is selfie.gawdd.
It's almost the exact
same thing
as Ray'Quan's Instagram.
That right there
is almost enough
to sort of...close the case.
- Truth has never
hung out with Kevon.
- Right, so he hasn't really
heard his voice.
- And has never talked to him.
- Right.
- I bet you Ray'Quan
doesn't exist, right?
- Truth's been talking
to Kevon...
- Right. He was created
by Kevon.
The one thing that, like,
Truth has said--
- Truth was adamant about.
- Is that, "Oh"--
- "I can't stand Kevon."
- Right. Kevon's, like,
he's a mess.
He's always, like,
in people's business.
And now there's a good chance
Kevon and Ray'Quan
are the same person.
[phone ringing]
Oh.
From Annapolis, Maryland.
- Hello?
- Yeah, hey, who's this?
- Dedrick. Are you hymnsofly?
- Hey, what's up?
We're talking to someone who's
been texting and talking
to your friend Ray'Quan.
You commented on
one of his photos.
- Yeah.
- Do you know him in real life?
- Can you tell us a little bit
about him?
[phone beeping]
- Oh.
Did he just hang up?
Should we call him back?
- Yeah.
- Your call has been forwarded
to an automatic...
- Shady.
No call back, goes straight
to voicemail, like...
Could this just be Kevon?
One of his many characters?
This could get really ugly.
- It's malicious.
- All right, so, look.
So here's what we know.
We know that Kevon
was the connection
between Ray'Quan and Truth.
- Kevon has
the same Facebook...
- URL.
- URL
as Ray'Quan's Instagram.
- So there's a good chance
the Ray'Quan Instagram page
is fake
and Ray'Quan
was created by Kevon.
But Ray'Quan is tagged
in a photo with Kevon in it,
so the guy in the picture
is just someone Kevon knows,
but that's not Ray'Quan.
This is not his profile.
- This is not his profile.
You know, you have
a circle of people
who all connect together.
And maybe people are trying to
blow up Truth's life.
[phone beeps]
- Whoa, I got
an Instagram message
from Kevon.
"Truth's not my friend.
"I can't believe he thought
this was so serious
"That he had to get "Catfish"
involved.
He's so messy."
Uh-oh.
"I can't believe he thought
This was so serious."
That suggests that he knew
Truth was having
some kind of a conversation,
relationship
with Ray'Quan.
It's looking more and more
like this could be our guy.
"Can you meet me by
my apartment in a few hours?"
"Yes that works."
I don't know.
[line ringing]
- Yo, Zeke.
- I got some news, buddy.
Do you want to head
to the office?
- Hey, hey.
- Hey, what's up?
- You watching me watching you.
- Kevon wrote me back.
- Oh, wow.
He said, "I can't believe he
thought this was so serious
that he had to get "Catfish"
involved."
- Oh, boy.
- If he's saying
"I can't believe he thought
this was so serious," then
Kevon knows that something's
been going on.
Now. Is that because
he is Ray'Quan?
- And the selfie.gawdd,
selfie.gawdd still plays.
- Right.
Or is that because he's
really friends with Ray'Quan
like--
- Mm-hmm.
- It sounds like
he doesn't like Truth.
- Doesn't like Truth.
- They're like...
- Not interested.
- Competing fashionistas.
- Mm-hmm.
- Maybe he's just been
messing with him
this whole time.
- Mm-hmm.
- And this is, like,
a big joke between him
and some friends.
- Could be the group chat
playing a...
joke on...
- Yeah, this could be
like a thing that they do.
We've seen this before.
It could be a group catfish.
- That's real--Yeah.
- But he said, "I could meet
you in a couple of hours
by my place."
- That's...
- And he gave me the address.
- That's pretty big news.
- We have a date with Kevon.
Let's go.
[mysterious music]
I feel like by contacting
and meeting up with Kevon
the clock has started--
the countdown to destruction.
Because as people
start to talk,
it's only a matter of time
before it gets back to Cierra.
- Mm-hmm.
- All right.
- Let's do it.
- Kevon.
Let's hang back here.
"Just got here..."
- [singing]
♪ Waiting on Kevon ♪
- [singing]
♪ Waiting for Kevon ♪
[suspenseful music]
Well, he's taking
his sweet time.
- It's not feeling good.
[phone beeps]
- Oh--[groans]
Now he says,
"Sorry, I cannot do this."
- Kevon's backing out?
- Something's going on.
- Wonder if he would
talk on the phone.
- I mean, I'll take
a phone call.
[line ringing]
- Your call has been
forwarded
to an automatic
voice message system.
- Maybe meeting with us
means revealing
that it's him...
and he doesn't want to admit
that he's in love with Truth.
- I think it definitely
plays into less of
he's into Truth
and more of
he's messing with Truth.
Or a group of people
is messing with Truth.
- Right.
Well, this is... concerning.
Let's head over to see Truth.
And he still has to tell Cierra
about all this.
- Real people,
real emotions.
Real stand-offs.
- Yeah.
If he didn't have
anything to hide,
he would have showed up.
[line ringing]
- Hey, Truth.
We've got a little bit
of a situation here.
We have some things
to tell you.
So where do you want
to meet up?
- Can we come there and talk?
- All right, man,
we'll see you soon.
- Hello?
- I'm back here, hey.
- Wow.
- Good to see you.
- Whoa.
This is cool.
All right, well, come on,
we got--
we got a lot to talk about.
Why don't we just
show you what we found,
and then we can decide
what we wanna do.
- Right.
- So yesterday you sent us
this email.
- You had given us
Ray'Quan's number.
- Right.
So we did a search to see
if that number
is registered to someone.
- Okay.
- And no name
associated with this number.
But Trenton, which makes sense.
And then we just thought,
let's see if he's tagged
in any photos.
He's tagged in two pictures.
- Okay.
- And one of them...
- Is with Kevon.
- Is with Kevon.
- Okay.
- So we sent him a message.
And we searched just to see
if Kevon had a Facebook.
And we found that he does.
But, more interestingly,
he's originally from Trenton,
exactly the same as Ray'Quan.
And then, check this out,
we looked at his URL...
His Facebook page
is selfie.gawdd.x
and Ray'Quan's Instagram
is selfie.gawdd.x.
- Okay, what?
So what you saying--
this is Kevon.
So he's playing in my face?
Like, what's going on?
Is--is that--
It's--like, what is--what is
going on?
- Kevon is the one
that invited you to the chat.
And Ray'Quan's Instagram page
and Kevon's Facebook page
have almost identical URLs.
So Kevon could be
the guy you're talking to.
Then...
- Today,
Kevon finally answered.
- He messaged me back
on Instagram.
So let me show you
these messages from Kevon.
- "I can't believe he thought
this was so serious
that he had to get "Catfish"
involved."
Oh, Lord.
- And he suggested meeting up
this morning.
- So we showed up.
- And he, like, bailed on us
after we got there.
We tried calling,
but no answer.
- Okay.
- So that's when we called you
and came over here.
Is there any chance Kevon
has a crush on you
and likes you?
- He ain't never told me that.
- Well, right, but if he had,
would you have been
nice about it?
- No, I wouldn't.
- Well, you might not
have gone out with him,
but you wouldn't have, like,
been mean to him, right?
- Yeah, I would.
- You would've.
Well, something's up
with Kevon.
But then there's also
this profile.
This guy, hymnsofly,
AKA Dedrick,
who commented on Ray'Quan's
pictures--
does he look familiar at all?
- Um, he might have been
in that group chat too.
- We messaged him.
And he called us yesterday.
And we were just
starting to talk,
and then click, it, like,
got disconnected.
- Got disconnected?
- Yeah.
Sketchy.
- Multiple people
might be in on this.
- I don't even know these,
like, him and this other guy--
I'm really like--
like, it's too much.
Like...
I'm gonna look dumb.
Like, I already look dumb.
I don't know him.
We ain't friends.
Like, seem like
they obsessed with me.
It just, like, seem like
they clout chasing,
like they wanna be poppin'
or something
off of my expense.
I gotta go outside.
I can't breathe.
I can't breathe.
- Oh, boy.
- ♪ Damn I look good
on camera ♪
♪ ♪
- You wanna go out there?
Let him vent.
Just, you know, talk to him.
- You want some water?
- Yeah, I need some Fiji water.
- We got a water?
- Fiji water.
- I understand how you feel.
Take these deep breaths.
Water's coming.
- I'm about to be like...
on TV looking crazy
right now.
Like,
I just need some water.
- I'll go get you some water.
- But not, like, nasty water.
Fiji water.
- Zeke was trying
to calm him down.
Would one of you
go get some Fiji water?
- I'll go grab 'em.
♪ ♪
How we doing?
Why don't we go back in?
- Okay. I think I'm better.
- Okay, good.
All right.
We're back.
I know this is a lot for you.
- Yeah.
- So I guess at this point...
we call Ray'Quan.
- Okay.
- See what he wants to do.
Let him know
we're doing the show.
Let him know we want
to meet up.
See if we can make that happen.
See what he says.
- Okay.
[phone ringing]
- Please leave
your message for...
- Just...
hold on, let me text him.
If it's green, that mean
they blocked you.
Oh, it is green!
- Blocked.
- Oh, [bleep].
- So you're blocked.
Officially.
- Let's text Ray'Quan
from my phone.
"Hey, Ray'Quan, this is Nev.
"I understand a lot's
going on right now,
"so we're hoping we could
all meet up
and figure this out."
Delivered.
We're bound to hear back
from someone
at some point.
And if we don't, we'll meet up
tomorrow morning,
and if we have to roll up
on Kevon somewhere or...
whatever it takes.
- But you definitely still
need to let Cierra know...
what's going on.
- If people are starting
to hear about this,
it could get to her.
So...sleep on it.
- Mm-kay.
- Okay.
- All right.
Hang in there.
- Okay.
I'ma try.
- All right.
We're almost worse off
than we were when we started.
- Now we got Kevon,
who seems to be going dark,
Ray'Quan...Truth.
- Blocked Truth.
- I mean, this could be
a really malicious effort
by someone to ruin
Truth's life.
- It doesn't feel romantic.
[phone beeps]
[phone beeping]
- Okay.
Ray'Quan texted.
"Please don't keep hitting up
close friends
"and asking them questions
about me.
"I'm over all of this
and I want it to stop.
"I know you're in LA with Truth
so I'm gonna come to you.
"I'll let you know
where to meet me
once I figure it out."
Someone's showing up tomorrow,
but I have no idea
who it's gonna be.
[upbeat music]
- Oh.
- Hey, hey.
- Whoa, bling, bling.
That is a good look.
- I like this.
Can we come in?
- I guess.
[chuckling]
- Your beard.
- Oh, yeah, I dyed it.
- I just noticed that.
- This is what
I'm feeling today.
- All right, so last night
when I got home at 11:00
or something,
I had this text.
- "Please don't keep
hitting up close friends
"and asking them
questions about me.
"I'm over all of this
and I want it to stop.
"I know you're in LA with
Truth,
so I'm gonna come to you."
- So either Ray'Quan really is
coming from New Jersey
and he's on a flight right now,
or it's someone in LA already
like Kevon,
and they are just sort of
doing a good job
of making it look like...
- They're traveling here.
- They're traveling.
- Our heads are spinning
just like yours are.
- Did you text him today?
- No. But I should.
"Hey, Ray'Quan..."
- So...
when Ray'Quan,
if Ray'Quan, you know,
gives us this address,
it's probably smart now,
if you haven't already,
to probably reach out
to Cierra.
- Look, if that--
this is your call.
You're gonna have to deal
with her at some point.
And it's not gonna
get any easier
once we meet Ray'Quan,
no matter who he is.
- I'm overwhelmed with stress.
- It just seems like
the right thing to do
to look each other in the eye,
say what you need to say.
- Okay.
I guess I can
just freestyle it.
[FaceTime ringing]
- You look nice.
- [groaning]
- So I'm just gonna
tell you this
because, like, it's a lot
that's been going on.
So I'm, like, with Nev.
- Hey, Cierra.
- Hey, Cierra.
- Have you ever seen
the show "Catfish"?
- Yeah, it's about people
who meet on the internet
and don't always tell the truth
and don't know
who they're talking to.
- So I was talking to
somebody online, dating them.
- And it's a guy.
- I'm sorry, but it's just,
like,
a lot going on, it's like...
It's more of, like,
I've never seen him,
so it's like
an emotional connection,
and then it might not
even be him.
- No...
- Okay. We're off.
[phone clatters]
- All right, well, look.
She's...
should be upset.
You were gonna have
to tell her at some point.
- Takes--takes courage
to do that.
I know it's hard right now
but in the long run,
it's gonna make a lot of things
better for you
both in this situation
and just in life.
- Mm-kay.
[phone beeps]
- Oh.
Text just came in
from Ray'Quan.
"This is where I am.
You can come and meet me."
- All right,
he's like around the corner.
Can we go there?
- Well, that's--that's
the--yes.
- Can we pull up right now?
- All right, let's go.
Let's go, let's go.
What do you think
is gonna happen?
- The only scenario
that I'm gonna be happy with
is Ray'Quan being Ray'Quan
and his phone just is broke.
'Cause any other scenario,
it's gonna be an issue.
- Right.
- 'Cause this is somebody
really playing with me.
- Yeah.
- They're, like,
playing in my face,
and that's what
you're not about to do.
Got me out here looking crazy.
- This is it.
All right. Let's park.
Everyone ready?
- Yeah, I'm ready.
- All right.
You guys chill here.
- Wait with me.
- I'll knock, all right?
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Oh, my God.
- Are we being
stood up again?
- I don't know.
Oh.
[knocking]
- Are we being
stood up again?
- I don't know.
- I don't understand.
- Oh.
Hi. Hey!
- Hi.
- It's him!
- Okay, it's Ray'Quan.
- I cannot...
- What's up? Nev.
- Ray'Quan.
- Nice to meet you.
- You too.
- I think you know
who this is.
[suspenseful music]
- Okay...
- Truth.
- What's up?
- Ray'Quan.
- Do you not want to hug me?
Like, I'm confused.
- I'm confused too.
- Why are you confused?
- I feel like
a little bit betrayed
'cause you went to the extreme
and just did all this.
You got people, like,
calling people I know,
asking about me.
- 'Cause I'm, 'cause, like,
you don't never answer
the FaceTime.
- Okay?
- You blocked me.
Why am I blocked?
- You were doing a little bit
too much for me.
- What did I do?
What's the problem?
- Yeah, I feel like
we're missing something.
- What did you--
what'd you come here for?
Are we talking?
Are we together?
What's going on?
- I never said we was together.
When did I say that to you?
- Are you kidding me?
- You're Ray'Quan.
- Yes.
- And that Instagram account...
- Yeah, that's mine.
- Okay, that's you.
Okay.
And it's been you talking
to him this whole time?
- Mm-hmm.
- And only you?
- Just me, yeah.
- No one else
is involved in this?
- No.
- Kevon...
has nothing to do with it?
- No.
- So who's all these
other people then?
- Well, that--no,
so we were wrong.
The good news is
it was him the whole time.
So then the real question
then for me is, like,
we got the impression
from Truth that you guys
were interested in each other
and that there was
some chemistry
and that you were hopeful
that you'd meet up
and see what happens,
so it's strange to me that
this would be an inconvenience
when, in fact, it feels like
something you guys
might have wanted
to have done.
- I mean, if it was something
I would have wanted done
I would have had it done.
I flirted with him,
but as far as a relationship,
we never talked about
no relationship.
- The last six months
for you has been...
- It's just been somebody
to talk to.
A friend.
- So you don't think
that anything you said
over the last six months
gave him the impression
that you were interested in him
in a meaningful way.
- If flirting gets you
in a relationship,
I'd be in about a whole bunch
right now.
- Have you had feelings
for him?
- Yeah, he was a cool person
to talk to.
He still is a cool person
to talk to.
- If I'm a cool person,
why we can't FaceTime?
Is your phone working?
- Yeah, my phone, it works.
- So if your phone working,
why you never
couldn't answer FaceTime?
Answer that.
- Because I didn't want to.
- Why did you waste six months
of my life?
- You wasted your own
six months.
Nobody said that we were
in a relationship.
You did that.
- Are you dumb?
- No, are you dumb?
- Are you dumb?
- No, are you?
- You're [bleep] stupid,
like, really?
Like, what was the point
of you coming
if you're gonna act like this?
- Because y'all were gonna
keep calling
and texting everybody asking,
so I came out here.
That's why.
- This [bleep] [murmurs].
I can't.
- You guys talk for a second.
This is Zeke, by the way.
Sorry.
- Hi, how are you?
- You didn't get a chance
to meet.
- Nice to meet you.
- I'm just gonna check--
I'll be right back.
- Like, why--why'd y'all
bring me here
if y'all knew he was gonna
act like this?
- I didn't know it was
gonna be him.
- What the [bleep]
is wrong with him?
- I never said we was
in a relationship.
I never said that.
And then you going around
asking people,
having people call my phone.
"Oh, it's "Catfish,"
you going on "Catfish"?
Then you're trying to get
in contact with me.
That's embarrassing as hell.
- Well, I understand
your frustration.
- I'm frustrated 'cause
I've been in, like,
an on-and-off-again
relationship.
That's why I never said
anything sexual to him.
I never said,
"Oh, you're my boyfriend,
Let's be boyfriends,"
'cause I'm not--
I wouldn't wanna bring
nobody in that.
- I don't know, I feel like
he's not telling us
the whole story.
Sounds to me like he might
have a boyfriend.
- I need to ask him
more questions.
- Sure.
- [sighs]
- Try to keep it cool
and collected.
- [groans, laughs]
- What's Kevon got to do
with this?
- What do you mean?
- He got something
to do with it.
Didn't he call you
or y'all was texting?
Got DM-ed or something.
- We--yeah, we DM-ed him.
- And who's Dedrick?
- A friend of mine,
a real close friend of mine.
- What?
- You're clout chasers.
'Cause they ain't more
lit than me.
I'm just about to say that.
They ain't more lit.
- Oh, they are, though.
Don't worry about nobody else.
- I am!
- Worry about yourself.
- I'm lit, like--
I want walk down--They want me.
- So if you so lit,
why you gotta go to "Catfish"
and stuff like that?
Go get you somebody else
since you're so [bleep] lit.
- Shut up.
- I'm very lit. I'm very lit.
- You're getting beside
yourself. Chill out.
- Who's gonna chill me?
I'ma stand right here.
You got a boyfriend?
- Yeah, a on and off boyfriend.
- So why you talking to me,
you got an on and off
boyfriend?
- Every time we chatted,
me and my boyfriend
wasn't together.
Like I said, on and off.
When I disconnected from you,
we were together.
I respect you that much.
- You don't respect me
that much.
- Well, he said they were
on and off.
But both of you
deceived each other.
- I didn't deceive nobody.
I don't know what
you're talking about.
- You over here trying to,
like, be extra.
- I'm not trying to be extra.
- Yes, you are.
Because
why you going this way?
- The only way for y'all
to clear the air
is to be 100%.
- And the thing about that is,
that's funny to me.
I'm not upset about that.
Kudos to [bleep] you.
- No.
- I'm gonna go in your Airbnb
and sit down.
- He just walking in
people's houses.
- You see, this is the type of
crazy [bleep].
Like nobody got the time
to deal with that.
- But you can understand
why he's upset, can't you?
- I can't.
- He said "I love you."
You could have, at that point,
been like,
"Yo, man,
I'm not feeling that."
- Wanna come--
let's go out there and--
we're just gonna defuse.
- How are we gonna defuse
the situation?
What's gonna defuse
the situation?
- The only way to defuse
the situation is just...
be chill.
- Look, so somehow
he got the impression
that you guys
were much more serious
than you thought.
- He don't give a [bleep]
about nothing you saying, Nev.
Look how he's standing.
- All right, all right.
So let's--
- No one cares if he's
taking off his bookbag?
I'm not scared of you.
- See, what are you saying?
- Hey, hey.
- I'm not scared of you.
- Look at you.
- Hey...
- Look at you
with this mesh shirt on,
with these burgundy pants
and these black shoes.
- But you're ugly
as [bleep] though.
- That's fine, I love it.
- You're really ugly
as [bleep], like--
- That's fine.
- All right, let's go
for the moment
And maybe meet back up.
- Come on.
- And we can try
to sort of reset this.
- Okay.
- Let's go get some Fiji water.
- Nice meeting you.
- You too.
- Get this [bleep] mic
off of me.
Get this [bleep] off of me.
I'm out here looking crazy.
Take this [bleep] off of me.
[tense music]
Dumbass bitch.
- All right, so, look.
Now that you've had some time,
I texted Ray'Quan
to meet back up.
Let's just clear the air.
And if nothing else,
leave things
on hopefully just
somewhat better terms.
Oh...
That looks like
he's with Kevon.
- [laughs/groans]
Now y'all gonna be
playing in my face.
- I didn't know Kevon
was coming.
- I don't understand
why he's here.
- Hold on a second.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
- Why are you here though?
- He brought me here
for support
And I'm here for support.
But also I came
because I heard, like,
the first conversation was,
like, super hostile,
so if it go down,
I'ma protect my friends.
- All right, let's--
let's just do one at a time.
I'm sure everybody
has something to say.
So first we now understand
that the relationship
that was taking place
between you guys
was different for you--
- Just, like,
a friendship to me.
- Fine.
Can you explain why
your Instagram page--
- Mm-hmm.
- Is selfie.gawdd.
- Mm-hmm.
- And your Facebook page.
- Mm-hmm.
- Is selfie.gawdd.
- Oh, that's something--
we're--we're, like,
elementary school
friends though.
- That was something
we did as a joke.
- You guys just came up...
- You're clowns.
- With that
when you were young.
- Speak when spoken to.
- What the [bleep].
- Let me just talk to them
for a second.
- Nobody's controlling
my mouth.
I'ma speak when I want to.
- But, Kevon,
when we messaged with you
and you asked us
to meet you here
and then you didn't show up,
what was going on?
- Because he asked me not to.
- He called me.
- And I'm not a clout chaser.
I have my own clout.
Like I don't--I don't need
anybody else.
- I don't even know you.
- I wanna apologize
for how I came off earlier.
- What are you
apologizing for?
- He wants to apologize,
let's hear--
let's hear him out.
- I wanna apologize to Zeke.
- Oh, my God.
- For how I came off earlier.
He was gonna get
an apology, but--
- Oh, my God,
give him a Emmy
or a Golden Globe
or something.
He needs something.
- Get you a mother[bleep]
clipper, bitch,
'cause you look a [bleep] mess.
- You look a [bleep] mess
with this mesh shirt
and these burgundy pants!
It's not a look!
- What do you wanna do, boo?
- Truth didn't
come here to fight.
- So why is he talking--
- I can say what I wanna say.
- You're the antagonizer
right now.
You're the antagonizer
right now.
[indistinct shouting]
- Bitch, 'cause where I'm from
I will really beat you
the [bleep] up!
- Everybody. Everybody.
[indistinct shouting]
- We got off
on the wrong foot.
- You're a [bleep] mess, bitch.
- No.
What you're not gonna do
is switch up words
in front of these,
what they said--
- You switched up words and
said we was in a relationship
when we wasn't.
- I never--did I say?
I said we were dating.
- We wasn't [bleep] dating
neither, dumbass.
- Clearly.
- Well, at the--at the--
- Could you just tell him
to be quiet while we talk?
- Why so angry?
- You haven't seen angry.
Can you, like,
point the camera over there,
'cause I'm about to grab it
and throw it.
- Unless there's something else
that we haven't covered--
- I--I'm going with y'all.
- All right, why don't we--
why don't we--
- I'ma keep talking to Dedrick
and all them people that--
- Well, [bleep] all of them
and [bleep] you.
- I can't.
- Where's the car?
Get me out of here.
- I think that went
really well.
- Nev, [bleep] you.
- So I actually--I do have
one question for you.
I understand y'all
have never met,
hang out, whatever.
But where's the animosity from?
- We have mutual friends.
- You do have mutual friends.
- And he has tried
to talk to me.
He was following me
for a long time,
like, DM-ing me, but,
obviously I'm not interested,
like...
- Okay, so he has
hit you up before.
- Yeah.
I just know that he's,
like, full of drama
and I know he acts like that.
- For me the bottom line is...
if he didn't like you
and he wasn't into you,
he wouldn't have talked
to you all that time.
- So Ray'Quan just left.
- Yeah.
- This situation's over.
- Right.
- I just want to enforce
to you,
you gotta be careful online.
You don't know these people.
You gotta be careful.
- Sorry.
- I'm sorry as well
that it didn't turn out the way
that you wanted it to.
But you were big to do this.
- I'm over it.
- Fair enough.
- Fair enough.
- Let's get out of here.
- Yo.
- Hey, hey.
- Let's see if we can get Truth
on the line here.
[FaceTime ringing]
Whoa. What's up, buddy?
- Hey.
- We were very curious to know
how things are going
since we last saw you.
- I just wanna know
what happened with Cierra.
I, honestly, I have been
concerned.
- It is what it is.
We're friends.
We're still friends.
She's good.
We talked about it,
so we're in a good space.
- That's good to hear.
- Yeah, what do you think
you learned about yourself?
- I just don't want you to be
completely closed off from
love period.
- Yeah.
- No love.
- Sounds like you're just
sort of moving forward
not looking back.
- It is what it is.
- All right, thanks, Truth.
- All right, bye.
- Later.
[FaceTime ringing]
Hey.
- Hey.
- How are you?
- I'm good.
It's a lot calmer now,
so...
I honestly feel like, um...
things could have went
a lot different
if both of us had, like,
a clear mind
and were both able
to listen to each other.
- Nice. Do you still feel
the same way, though,
about how you think he totally
misinterpreted the situation?
- Absolutely.
But I feel bad how
the situation turned out.
Because my mind wasn't
where his mind was.
So I just hope in time
he finds somebody
that's on his level.
- Well, that's nice.
You want him to find love.
- Yeah, I just want him
to find somebody
that's, you know...
- On his level.
- [chuckling] Yeah.
- All right, buddy.
- All right, you guys.
Thank you. Bye.
- See you.
- Bye.
- Three years ago, Shakinah
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00:41:20.
We got a situation.
Truth loves Ray'Quan,
"but we've never FaceTimed."
- Do you not have
a lot of people
who you feel like
you can confide in?
- I live in LA.
This is the land
of the fake and the phony.
I'm about to be like,
on TV looking crazy right now.
Oh, my God.
- Oh.
[dramatic musical sting]
[upbeat music]
- Hello.
- Zeke!
- What's up, man?
- Hi.
Nice to meet you.
- Zeke Thomas,
son of Hall of Fame
basketball player
Isaiah Thomas,
has paved his own path
as a renowned DJ and producer.
When he's not spinning
at the club,
he's traveling the country
speaking out against
sexual assault.
A modern-day Renaissance man,
we are so thrilled
to have Zeke.
- Nice to meet you.
- Welcome to the show.
- Thank you.
- So,
Little bit more about yourself.
When did you get started
into music?
- So, my dad being
a basketball player,
we actually had a basketball
court in our house.
- Indoor.
- And...indoor.
Whenever he was practicing
and I would be with him,
I was always
more concerned with
what we were listening to.
So we'd be, like,
shooting hoops,
and all of the sudden
I'd be like,
"Okay, we gotta change
the song."
So from then on
it was just like
music was my dream.
Worked my way up from there.
- Nice.
And when you travel
and you speak
about sexual assault--
because that was an experience
that you went through.
- Yeah, so, unfortunately,
I met a person on an app
and we went on a date.
I was actually drugged
and then assaulted.
- That's terrible.
I'm sorry.
- It was an unfortunate
situation.
But it just went
to prove to me that
not everybody is who they
present themselves to be.
- Right.
- I didn't really
do my homework.
And I want people
to do their homework.
- Right.
- And I think, you know, that's
the reason I'm excited
to come onto the show.
- Awesome. Why don't we, uh,
dig in?
- I'm nervous, but I'm ready.
- You're gonna be great.
Whoa.
We got an email here
from Truth.
"Hey Nev and Zeke, I'm Truth.
I'm 23 years young..."
- That's making us feel old.
- Yeah, I know, right?
- [laughing]
- ♪ I'm 23 ♪
- "I'm a fashion design
student in Los Angeles,
and I'm in dire need
of your help."
- ♪ This ain't about you ♪
♪ This is about me ♪
- "Six months ago,
I met Ray'Quan
"in an Instagram group chat.
"Ray'Quan is 22, and I think
He lives in Trenton,
New Jersey."
- ♪ Is it all in my head,
what they said? ♪
- "When I joined the group,
I noticed Ray'Quan
Was subtly flirting with me."
- ♪ I'm feeling
misunderstood ♪
- "So I reached out to him
privately.
"After messaging for a bit,
we exchanged numbers
"and began to converse
on the phone
"through both text messaging
and talking.
"He's a great listener,
"and when I tell him
my problems,
"he gives me great advice.
Compared to all the fake
people I've met in LA..."
- There are no fake people
in the tri-state area.
- Yeah, exactly.
- "Ray'Quan was something new
and refreshing."
- ♪ I fall in and out
of love ♪
- "But"--there's the "but."
- All right.
- "As great as Ray'Quan
sounds..."
- ♪ I really don't know
what I'm doing ♪
- "We've never successfully
FaceTimed."
- That's a red flag.
- "And two months ago,
I told him
"I had purchased a ticket
to come and see him.
"But when the time came
for me to visit,
He changed his mind."
- ♪ I'm feeling
misunderstood ♪
- "And I realized he might
be hiding something.
"I haven't questioned him
as much as I should,
"because when I do
ask questions,
he'll block or ignore me."
- Block?
- "That may not be ideal
for other people
and their relationships,
but I like a little crazy."
- So you're crazy.
Okay. We got a crazy one.
- Oh, yeah.
"I can deal with his temper..."
"I'm seriously in despair.
"You're my last resort,
"and I hope to hear
from you soon.
Truth."
This episode's gonna be tricky.
Because the person
we're trying to help,
their name is Truth.
So every time
we're talking about them,
and whether or not
they're getting lied to,
it's gonna be confusing.
- It's going to be confusing.
- Right.
Is Truth getting the truth?
- Is Truth getting the truth?
Is Truth the liar?
- Can we trust Truth?
- I don't know.
- I don't know.
- [laughing]
- Why don't we just get
a little bit more
from Truth here.
[FaceTime ringing]
Hey.
- Truth.
- Hey.
- What's up?
- I love your hair.
- Thank you, thank you,
thank you.
I just dyed it.
- Wow, is that--
- I just did mine too.
- Sorry, I should
introduce you.
So, Truth, this is Zeke.
- Pleasure to meet youas well.
- He's helping me out
on this episode.
We just read your email.
So you're in Los Angeles?
- Yes.
- And you're at a school
for design, you said?
- Yeah, fashion design.
- Nice.
- So I have a question for you
off the bat.
You were in a group chat
with this individual.
- Right.
- Ray'Quan.
Who else was in
this group chat?
- A mutual friend
between ours, Kevon,
and then some other people.
- Kevon, is that a real--
a friend that you know
in person,
or just like a friend from...
- From Instagram.
I never met him.
- Right.
In the group chat,
he's been mean.
I don't like him.
Kevon, he got an attitude.
Like, he's this very--
a dark cloud, negative.
- So you didn't know anybody
in this group chat
personally.
- No.
- Tell us what you do know
about Ray'Quan.
- The first month
we was just, like,
getting to know each other.
And then I was like,
"Okay, I kinda like him."
'Cause he's, like,
a great listener.
Usually when we're talking
I, like, vent a lot
about what I'm going through
and, like, what's going on
in my life.
And he gives great advice
and, like, good feedback.
- But he always says no
to FaceTime?
- Yeah, he has, like,
a lot of excuses
about why his phone's
not working.
I don't wanna keep bugging
him about FaceTime
because he, like, gets mad
sometimes and he blocks me.
So I was like, okay,
better not make him mad.
Because I don't want to get
blocked for a week again.
- You got blocked for a week?
And then you still
talking to him?
- Yeah. I like crazy people.
I'm attracted to crazy.
- How do you know for sure
he's in New Jersey?
- Now you're making me think.
I don't know.
I hope he's there.
That's what he told me.
- Oh, now you got
his mind working.
Truth gotta find the truth.
- All right, well, look.
You're in Los Angeles.
We're in Los Angeles too.
Why don't we plan on meeting up
tomorrow morning
to see if we can
figure this out?
- We gotta do something,
'cause I'm over it.
- Maybe you could have
an outfit or something ready
for Zeke here.
You could try--
you could style him.
- Yeah, 'cause you need
some help.
- Oh!
- You know what?
Okay.
Okay, Truth.
- We'll see you
tomorrow, Truth.
- All right, bye.
- I'm not sure Truth
is telling the truth.
- Really?
- Something's not computing.
- You think he's leaving
something out?
- Yes.
- All right, well,
I'll see you in the morning
and we'll find out.
Come ready for a makeover.
- ♪ Feeling like a boss ♪
♪ And staring at the stars ♪
- Here we are.
In the Valley.
- In the Valley.
- ♪ Everybody ♪
♪ Wants to be famous ♪
- Let's do it.
- ♪ Staring at the stars ♪
- Hey.
- Hello!
- Hey, what's up?
- How's it going?
- This morning I actually
really was thinking about
what I was wearing,
because you were ripping me
yesterday.
- Okay. Okay.
- Oh, here we go.
- I made all of these.
- You made all these?
- Yeah. I'm about to be famous.
- All right, well,
we gotta have a show.
- We need music.
- Oh, he takes it off.
Whoa.
- ♪ Everybody wants
to be famous ♪
♪ Everybody wants ♪
- So here we are.
You gave us, like,
a little description
of kinda what's been going on.
- Right.
- Your friend invites you
into this group chat.
- Kevon.
- Well, we're not friends.
He's, like, fake.
- Fake, like, not the person--
- No, like a fake person.
Like...
- Right.
- Somebody that...
- He's not a good person--
- He's just...
- Got it.
- 'Cause, like, he's,
like, in the industry,
like, styling, but,
- All right. So.
Like, just kinda take us back
to that first day
when you first sort of
set your eyes on Ray'Quan.
- Okay, so, we were, like,
in this group chat
on Instagram.
And we were, like, sending
memes and fashion stuff.
After, like, a week
of doing that,
I was like, "Okay, well,
let me DM him separately."
And then we just
started texting.
We were just, like,
getting to know each other
or what do you like to do,
what I like to do.
Like, I was venting and telling
him about my life,
what I want to do and who I am
and stuff like that.
Majority of the time
we're on the phone,
I talk more than him.
That's why I say
he's a great listener.
- Do you generally not have
a lot of people around you
who you feel like
you can confide in?
- I live in LA.
This is the land
of the fake and the phony.
- Well, let's talk
about that for a second.
So, 'cause, here you are
in Los Angeles,
one of the hubs
of gay community.
- Mm-hmm.
- Can't you find someone
you'd be interested in here?
- Because I've kinda--
I've been dating somebody else.
- Okay. Okay.
- Okay.
- There we go.
- Spill the tea.
- It's a girl.
both: Oh.
- Is that, like, kind of
a serious thing, or...
- Yeah, we've been dating
for a year.
- Really?
Does she know about...
- No.
- Ray'Quan?
- You do like the drama.
- The drama likes me.
I don't like drama.
Drama likes me.
- Are you guys, like,
taking a break, or...
- No.
But Cierra just went back home
for, like, six months,
and then she's gonna come back.
I was like, well,
might as well try to...
see what's up with him 'cause
she's gonna be gone
for a while.
And I'm, like, bored--
I don't want to be bored.
- Does Ray'Quan know that
you have a girlfriend?
- No.
- Does Cierra think
you guys are exclusive
and monogamous?
- Yes.
- Does Cierra know
that you also date men?
- No.
But I love both of them.
We could all be a throuple.
I think we could be, like,
I want to be with
the both of them.
- Okay.
- Do you think she'd be down?
- You never know.
- Wow.
- Cierra makes you happy?
- Yeah, she's, like,
really good.
Like, to talk to too, and--
- So why--what's
stopping commitment?
- I'm only 23,
and I'm not trying to be,
like, married right now.
- Fair.
- Yeah.
But I do think Cierra deserves
the respect of being kinda
filled in on the situation.
While we want to help you,
we also don't wanna participate
in what Cierra would probably
think of as cheating.
It'd be nice, I think,
to kinda fill her in.
So think about how and when
you want to do that.
- Okay.
- Okay. Can we see a picture
of Ray'Quan?
- Okay.
- Show us your...
- Your profile.
- Your conversation with him.
- This is my profile.
That's me.
Y'all know that's me.
- Oh, you got 38,000 followers?
- Yeah, I'm lit.
You know.
- You got 38,000?
- Okay, okay.
- Look at me. I'm lit.
- You got more than me.
- Yeah.
- And can you show us--
- Cierra?
- Yeah. So this is her page.
- She's very pretty.
- I made that.
- Oh.
- You made that outfit.
- You made that?
- Wow.
- You are very talented.
- And show us, uh, Ray'Quan.
Is that him, or?
- Yeah.
- Okay. He's
a good-looking guy.
- Can we look at the messages?
- Okay.
We was, like,
sending different memes,
and, like...
We were texting earlier
and I was like,
"Can you call me
on your break?"
He's been mean lately.
He gets so mad
when I call him babe or bae.
- That's interesting.
- I don't know why he
be acting like that.
He's just a private person.
- I mean, is it possible--
have you ever considered
that maybe he's not
that into you?
- I think y'all are reaching.
- You guys ever say
"I love you"?
- I say it, but he'd be like,
"Yeah..."
- Like on the phone?
- Yeah.
He'd be like, "Uh-huh. Bye."
- Oh.
- He's never said it back.
- No, not that
I can recollect. No.
- We've got our work
cut out for us.
Send us an email
with everybody's profiles.
We'll see what we can find
and we'll meet back up
tomorrow.
I'm ready to dive in.
- I, like, really
wanna dive in.
[all laughing]
- It was nice meeting you.
- You too.
- Thank you so much.
[mysterious music]
- Oh, boy.
We got a situation.
- Potential situation-ship
boyfriend.
And a girlfriend.
- And she doesn't even know
he likes guys,
much less is dating one.
It's a lot.
- It's a lot!
- It's a lot.
- We have a major situation.
- You were right.
You called it.
- Truth was not telling
the whole truth.
- All right.
[groans]
Before we get started,
let's have a little treat.
- Can we "cheers"?
To Truth!
- Oh, yours,
yours is, like, giant
compared to mine.
- [laughing]
- Let's just recap.
- Mm-kay.
Truth, 23 years old,
let's call him bisexual.
He has Ray'Quan.
- Met him on Instagram
in a group chat.
- And they were
introduced by...
- A guy named Kevon.
- Kevon.
Truth is currently dating
a girl, Cierra,
for a year.
- He's dating two people.
So now we've gotta figure out,
who is Ray'Quan?
Is he the guy in the pictures
who lives in New Jersey
or someone else?
Quite a debacle.
- It is.
- It's a mess.
- Truth sent an email.Mm-kay.
- Ray'Quan's phone number,
his Instagram.
Selfie.gawdd.
"I don't have a number
for Kevon"--
right, 'cause they've
never met in person--
"But here's his Instagram."
Okay, let's just search
Ray'Quan's phone number.
We'll do a quick search here...
See what we get.
No name.
- Trenton, New Jersey, however.
- Okay, New Jersey checks out.
All right, so here are
pictures of Ray'Quan.
And let's see
if any of these come up.
All right. First one.
both: No.
Second pic.
Okay, nothing.
Last picture.
- Oh--no.
- Nothing on the pictures.
So let's just look a little bit
at his Instagram.
This is Ray'Quan's Instagram.
Selfie.gawdd.
- Six pictures.
How many followers
does he have?
- 2,700.
I mean, this feels like
a fake account.
- Let's look at the comments.
- Yeah, let's go
to the first post.
All right. Here we go.
This guy, hymnsofly,
commented on Ray'Quan's
oldest picture.
- The oldest picture.
Is he commenting
on anything else?
- Yes, the most recent photo.
Hymnsofly, "3 more weeks
I can't wait."
Maybe they know each other
in real life.
- Who's hymnsofly?
- Yeah.
His name is Dedrick.
- Private account.
- But we could message
and just say, like,
"How do you know Ray'Quan?"
Let's try hymnsofly.
- Hymnsofly...
- All right.
[chime]
All right, so we sent
a message to Dedrick.
So let's just look
to see if Ray'Quan
is tagged on Instagram.
Is he tagged in anything?
Okay, so this guy tagged
Ray'Quan in a photo.
Ray'Quan commented
"I miss you."
Who is this?
- That's Kevon.
That's the friend.
- You're right!
So wait a second.
- That's Kevon.
- So there it is.
- So Kevon...
is in a picture
and personally knows Ray'Quan.
- This is a big deal.
That's huge.
- That is huge.
- Okay. We need
to message Kevon.
If he can confirm that he
does, in fact, know Ray'Quan,
that'd be huge.
So sending.
All right, great.
Okay, so now we've got
messages out
to Dedrick
and this other guy, Kevon,
who...
- Yes.
- Is the link.
- Who's the link.
- And in the photo
with Ray'Quan.
- We've not searched for Kevon
on Facebook.
- All right,
let's do that.
Oh, yeah, there he is.
- Self-employed...
- Let's just see
what's on his page.
Wait, what's this?
Kevon was in Trenton.
- Okay, Kevon was in Trenton.
"Coming home tomorrow."
- Wait a second.
Trenton.
Exactly the same as Ray'Quan.
Huh.
Oh. Whoa!
Holy [bleep].
Kevon's Facebook--
look at the URL.
- Oh, boy.
- Kevon's Facebook URL
is selfie.gawdd.
It's almost the exact
same thing
as Ray'Quan's Instagram.
That right there
is almost enough
to sort of...close the case.
- Truth has never
hung out with Kevon.
- Right, so he hasn't really
heard his voice.
- And has never talked to him.
- Right.
- I bet you Ray'Quan
doesn't exist, right?
- Truth's been talking
to Kevon...
- Right. He was created
by Kevon.
The one thing that, like,
Truth has said--
- Truth was adamant about.
- Is that, "Oh"--
- "I can't stand Kevon."
- Right. Kevon's, like,
he's a mess.
He's always, like,
in people's business.
And now there's a good chance
Kevon and Ray'Quan
are the same person.
[phone ringing]
Oh.
From Annapolis, Maryland.
- Hello?
- Yeah, hey, who's this?
- Dedrick. Are you hymnsofly?
- Hey, what's up?
We're talking to someone who's
been texting and talking
to your friend Ray'Quan.
You commented on
one of his photos.
- Yeah.
- Do you know him in real life?
- Can you tell us a little bit
about him?
[phone beeping]
- Oh.
Did he just hang up?
Should we call him back?
- Yeah.
- Your call has been forwarded
to an automatic...
- Shady.
No call back, goes straight
to voicemail, like...
Could this just be Kevon?
One of his many characters?
This could get really ugly.
- It's malicious.
- All right, so, look.
So here's what we know.
We know that Kevon
was the connection
between Ray'Quan and Truth.
- Kevon has
the same Facebook...
- URL.
- URL
as Ray'Quan's Instagram.
- So there's a good chance
the Ray'Quan Instagram page
is fake
and Ray'Quan
was created by Kevon.
But Ray'Quan is tagged
in a photo with Kevon in it,
so the guy in the picture
is just someone Kevon knows,
but that's not Ray'Quan.
This is not his profile.
- This is not his profile.
You know, you have
a circle of people
who all connect together.
And maybe people are trying to
blow up Truth's life.
[phone beeps]
- Whoa, I got
an Instagram message
from Kevon.
"Truth's not my friend.
"I can't believe he thought
this was so serious
"That he had to get "Catfish"
involved.
He's so messy."
Uh-oh.
"I can't believe he thought
This was so serious."
That suggests that he knew
Truth was having
some kind of a conversation,
relationship
with Ray'Quan.
It's looking more and more
like this could be our guy.
"Can you meet me by
my apartment in a few hours?"
"Yes that works."
I don't know.
[line ringing]
- Yo, Zeke.
- I got some news, buddy.
Do you want to head
to the office?
- Hey, hey.
- Hey, what's up?
- You watching me watching you.
- Kevon wrote me back.
- Oh, wow.
He said, "I can't believe he
thought this was so serious
that he had to get "Catfish"
involved."
- Oh, boy.
- If he's saying
"I can't believe he thought
this was so serious," then
Kevon knows that something's
been going on.
Now. Is that because
he is Ray'Quan?
- And the selfie.gawdd,
selfie.gawdd still plays.
- Right.
Or is that because he's
really friends with Ray'Quan
like--
- Mm-hmm.
- It sounds like
he doesn't like Truth.
- Doesn't like Truth.
- They're like...
- Not interested.
- Competing fashionistas.
- Mm-hmm.
- Maybe he's just been
messing with him
this whole time.
- Mm-hmm.
- And this is, like,
a big joke between him
and some friends.
- Could be the group chat
playing a...
joke on...
- Yeah, this could be
like a thing that they do.
We've seen this before.
It could be a group catfish.
- That's real--Yeah.
- But he said, "I could meet
you in a couple of hours
by my place."
- That's...
- And he gave me the address.
- That's pretty big news.
- We have a date with Kevon.
Let's go.
[mysterious music]
I feel like by contacting
and meeting up with Kevon
the clock has started--
the countdown to destruction.
Because as people
start to talk,
it's only a matter of time
before it gets back to Cierra.
- Mm-hmm.
- All right.
- Let's do it.
- Kevon.
Let's hang back here.
"Just got here..."
- [singing]
♪ Waiting on Kevon ♪
- [singing]
♪ Waiting for Kevon ♪
[suspenseful music]
Well, he's taking
his sweet time.
- It's not feeling good.
[phone beeps]
- Oh--[groans]
Now he says,
"Sorry, I cannot do this."
- Kevon's backing out?
- Something's going on.
- Wonder if he would
talk on the phone.
- I mean, I'll take
a phone call.
[line ringing]
- Your call has been
forwarded
to an automatic
voice message system.
- Maybe meeting with us
means revealing
that it's him...
and he doesn't want to admit
that he's in love with Truth.
- I think it definitely
plays into less of
he's into Truth
and more of
he's messing with Truth.
Or a group of people
is messing with Truth.
- Right.
Well, this is... concerning.
Let's head over to see Truth.
And he still has to tell Cierra
about all this.
- Real people,
real emotions.
Real stand-offs.
- Yeah.
If he didn't have
anything to hide,
he would have showed up.
[line ringing]
- Hey, Truth.
We've got a little bit
of a situation here.
We have some things
to tell you.
So where do you want
to meet up?
- Can we come there and talk?
- All right, man,
we'll see you soon.
- Hello?
- I'm back here, hey.
- Wow.
- Good to see you.
- Whoa.
This is cool.
All right, well, come on,
we got--
we got a lot to talk about.
Why don't we just
show you what we found,
and then we can decide
what we wanna do.
- Right.
- So yesterday you sent us
this email.
- You had given us
Ray'Quan's number.
- Right.
So we did a search to see
if that number
is registered to someone.
- Okay.
- And no name
associated with this number.
But Trenton, which makes sense.
And then we just thought,
let's see if he's tagged
in any photos.
He's tagged in two pictures.
- Okay.
- And one of them...
- Is with Kevon.
- Is with Kevon.
- Okay.
- So we sent him a message.
And we searched just to see
if Kevon had a Facebook.
And we found that he does.
But, more interestingly,
he's originally from Trenton,
exactly the same as Ray'Quan.
And then, check this out,
we looked at his URL...
His Facebook page
is selfie.gawdd.x
and Ray'Quan's Instagram
is selfie.gawdd.x.
- Okay, what?
So what you saying--
this is Kevon.
So he's playing in my face?
Like, what's going on?
Is--is that--
It's--like, what is--what is
going on?
- Kevon is the one
that invited you to the chat.
And Ray'Quan's Instagram page
and Kevon's Facebook page
have almost identical URLs.
So Kevon could be
the guy you're talking to.
Then...
- Today,
Kevon finally answered.
- He messaged me back
on Instagram.
So let me show you
these messages from Kevon.
- "I can't believe he thought
this was so serious
that he had to get "Catfish"
involved."
Oh, Lord.
- And he suggested meeting up
this morning.
- So we showed up.
- And he, like, bailed on us
after we got there.
We tried calling,
but no answer.
- Okay.
- So that's when we called you
and came over here.
Is there any chance Kevon
has a crush on you
and likes you?
- He ain't never told me that.
- Well, right, but if he had,
would you have been
nice about it?
- No, I wouldn't.
- Well, you might not
have gone out with him,
but you wouldn't have, like,
been mean to him, right?
- Yeah, I would.
- You would've.
Well, something's up
with Kevon.
But then there's also
this profile.
This guy, hymnsofly,
AKA Dedrick,
who commented on Ray'Quan's
pictures--
does he look familiar at all?
- Um, he might have been
in that group chat too.
- We messaged him.
And he called us yesterday.
And we were just
starting to talk,
and then click, it, like,
got disconnected.
- Got disconnected?
- Yeah.
Sketchy.
- Multiple people
might be in on this.
- I don't even know these,
like, him and this other guy--
I'm really like--
like, it's too much.
Like...
I'm gonna look dumb.
Like, I already look dumb.
I don't know him.
We ain't friends.
Like, seem like
they obsessed with me.
It just, like, seem like
they clout chasing,
like they wanna be poppin'
or something
off of my expense.
I gotta go outside.
I can't breathe.
I can't breathe.
- Oh, boy.
- ♪ Damn I look good
on camera ♪
♪ ♪
- You wanna go out there?
Let him vent.
Just, you know, talk to him.
- You want some water?
- Yeah, I need some Fiji water.
- We got a water?
- Fiji water.
- I understand how you feel.
Take these deep breaths.
Water's coming.
- I'm about to be like...
on TV looking crazy
right now.
Like,
I just need some water.
- I'll go get you some water.
- But not, like, nasty water.
Fiji water.
- Zeke was trying
to calm him down.
Would one of you
go get some Fiji water?
- I'll go grab 'em.
♪ ♪
How we doing?
Why don't we go back in?
- Okay. I think I'm better.
- Okay, good.
All right.
We're back.
I know this is a lot for you.
- Yeah.
- So I guess at this point...
we call Ray'Quan.
- Okay.
- See what he wants to do.
Let him know
we're doing the show.
Let him know we want
to meet up.
See if we can make that happen.
See what he says.
- Okay.
[phone ringing]
- Please leave
your message for...
- Just...
hold on, let me text him.
If it's green, that mean
they blocked you.
Oh, it is green!
- Blocked.
- Oh, [bleep].
- So you're blocked.
Officially.
- Let's text Ray'Quan
from my phone.
"Hey, Ray'Quan, this is Nev.
"I understand a lot's
going on right now,
"so we're hoping we could
all meet up
and figure this out."
Delivered.
We're bound to hear back
from someone
at some point.
And if we don't, we'll meet up
tomorrow morning,
and if we have to roll up
on Kevon somewhere or...
whatever it takes.
- But you definitely still
need to let Cierra know...
what's going on.
- If people are starting
to hear about this,
it could get to her.
So...sleep on it.
- Mm-kay.
- Okay.
- All right.
Hang in there.
- Okay.
I'ma try.
- All right.
We're almost worse off
than we were when we started.
- Now we got Kevon,
who seems to be going dark,
Ray'Quan...Truth.
- Blocked Truth.
- I mean, this could be
a really malicious effort
by someone to ruin
Truth's life.
- It doesn't feel romantic.
[phone beeps]
[phone beeping]
- Okay.
Ray'Quan texted.
"Please don't keep hitting up
close friends
"and asking them questions
about me.
"I'm over all of this
and I want it to stop.
"I know you're in LA with Truth
so I'm gonna come to you.
"I'll let you know
where to meet me
once I figure it out."
Someone's showing up tomorrow,
but I have no idea
who it's gonna be.
[upbeat music]
- Oh.
- Hey, hey.
- Whoa, bling, bling.
That is a good look.
- I like this.
Can we come in?
- I guess.
[chuckling]
- Your beard.
- Oh, yeah, I dyed it.
- I just noticed that.
- This is what
I'm feeling today.
- All right, so last night
when I got home at 11:00
or something,
I had this text.
- "Please don't keep
hitting up close friends
"and asking them
questions about me.
"I'm over all of this
and I want it to stop.
"I know you're in LA with
Truth,
so I'm gonna come to you."
- So either Ray'Quan really is
coming from New Jersey
and he's on a flight right now,
or it's someone in LA already
like Kevon,
and they are just sort of
doing a good job
of making it look like...
- They're traveling here.
- They're traveling.
- Our heads are spinning
just like yours are.
- Did you text him today?
- No. But I should.
"Hey, Ray'Quan..."
- So...
when Ray'Quan,
if Ray'Quan, you know,
gives us this address,
it's probably smart now,
if you haven't already,
to probably reach out
to Cierra.
- Look, if that--
this is your call.
You're gonna have to deal
with her at some point.
And it's not gonna
get any easier
once we meet Ray'Quan,
no matter who he is.
- I'm overwhelmed with stress.
- It just seems like
the right thing to do
to look each other in the eye,
say what you need to say.
- Okay.
I guess I can
just freestyle it.
[FaceTime ringing]
- You look nice.
- [groaning]
- So I'm just gonna
tell you this
because, like, it's a lot
that's been going on.
So I'm, like, with Nev.
- Hey, Cierra.
- Hey, Cierra.
- Have you ever seen
the show "Catfish"?
- Yeah, it's about people
who meet on the internet
and don't always tell the truth
and don't know
who they're talking to.
- So I was talking to
somebody online, dating them.
- And it's a guy.
- I'm sorry, but it's just,
like,
a lot going on, it's like...
It's more of, like,
I've never seen him,
so it's like
an emotional connection,
and then it might not
even be him.
- No...
- Okay. We're off.
[phone clatters]
- All right, well, look.
She's...
should be upset.
You were gonna have
to tell her at some point.
- Takes--takes courage
to do that.
I know it's hard right now
but in the long run,
it's gonna make a lot of things
better for you
both in this situation
and just in life.
- Mm-kay.
[phone beeps]
- Oh.
Text just came in
from Ray'Quan.
"This is where I am.
You can come and meet me."
- All right,
he's like around the corner.
Can we go there?
- Well, that's--that's
the--yes.
- Can we pull up right now?
- All right, let's go.
Let's go, let's go.
What do you think
is gonna happen?
- The only scenario
that I'm gonna be happy with
is Ray'Quan being Ray'Quan
and his phone just is broke.
'Cause any other scenario,
it's gonna be an issue.
- Right.
- 'Cause this is somebody
really playing with me.
- Yeah.
- They're, like,
playing in my face,
and that's what
you're not about to do.
Got me out here looking crazy.
- This is it.
All right. Let's park.
Everyone ready?
- Yeah, I'm ready.
- All right.
You guys chill here.
- Wait with me.
- I'll knock, all right?
[dramatic music]
♪ ♪
- Oh, my God.
- Are we being
stood up again?
- I don't know.
Oh.
[knocking]
- Are we being
stood up again?
- I don't know.
- I don't understand.
- Oh.
Hi. Hey!
- Hi.
- It's him!
- Okay, it's Ray'Quan.
- I cannot...
- What's up? Nev.
- Ray'Quan.
- Nice to meet you.
- You too.
- I think you know
who this is.
[suspenseful music]
- Okay...
- Truth.
- What's up?
- Ray'Quan.
- Do you not want to hug me?
Like, I'm confused.
- I'm confused too.
- Why are you confused?
- I feel like
a little bit betrayed
'cause you went to the extreme
and just did all this.
You got people, like,
calling people I know,
asking about me.
- 'Cause I'm, 'cause, like,
you don't never answer
the FaceTime.
- Okay?
- You blocked me.
Why am I blocked?
- You were doing a little bit
too much for me.
- What did I do?
What's the problem?
- Yeah, I feel like
we're missing something.
- What did you--
what'd you come here for?
Are we talking?
Are we together?
What's going on?
- I never said we was together.
When did I say that to you?
- Are you kidding me?
- You're Ray'Quan.
- Yes.
- And that Instagram account...
- Yeah, that's mine.
- Okay, that's you.
Okay.
And it's been you talking
to him this whole time?
- Mm-hmm.
- And only you?
- Just me, yeah.
- No one else
is involved in this?
- No.
- Kevon...
has nothing to do with it?
- No.
- So who's all these
other people then?
- Well, that--no,
so we were wrong.
The good news is
it was him the whole time.
So then the real question
then for me is, like,
we got the impression
from Truth that you guys
were interested in each other
and that there was
some chemistry
and that you were hopeful
that you'd meet up
and see what happens,
so it's strange to me that
this would be an inconvenience
when, in fact, it feels like
something you guys
might have wanted
to have done.
- I mean, if it was something
I would have wanted done
I would have had it done.
I flirted with him,
but as far as a relationship,
we never talked about
no relationship.
- The last six months
for you has been...
- It's just been somebody
to talk to.
A friend.
- So you don't think
that anything you said
over the last six months
gave him the impression
that you were interested in him
in a meaningful way.
- If flirting gets you
in a relationship,
I'd be in about a whole bunch
right now.
- Have you had feelings
for him?
- Yeah, he was a cool person
to talk to.
He still is a cool person
to talk to.
- If I'm a cool person,
why we can't FaceTime?
Is your phone working?
- Yeah, my phone, it works.
- So if your phone working,
why you never
couldn't answer FaceTime?
Answer that.
- Because I didn't want to.
- Why did you waste six months
of my life?
- You wasted your own
six months.
Nobody said that we were
in a relationship.
You did that.
- Are you dumb?
- No, are you dumb?
- Are you dumb?
- No, are you?
- You're [bleep] stupid,
like, really?
Like, what was the point
of you coming
if you're gonna act like this?
- Because y'all were gonna
keep calling
and texting everybody asking,
so I came out here.
That's why.
- This [bleep] [murmurs].
I can't.
- You guys talk for a second.
This is Zeke, by the way.
Sorry.
- Hi, how are you?
- You didn't get a chance
to meet.
- Nice to meet you.
- I'm just gonna check--
I'll be right back.
- Like, why--why'd y'all
bring me here
if y'all knew he was gonna
act like this?
- I didn't know it was
gonna be him.
- What the [bleep]
is wrong with him?
- I never said we was
in a relationship.
I never said that.
And then you going around
asking people,
having people call my phone.
"Oh, it's "Catfish,"
you going on "Catfish"?
Then you're trying to get
in contact with me.
That's embarrassing as hell.
- Well, I understand
your frustration.
- I'm frustrated 'cause
I've been in, like,
an on-and-off-again
relationship.
That's why I never said
anything sexual to him.
I never said,
"Oh, you're my boyfriend,
Let's be boyfriends,"
'cause I'm not--
I wouldn't wanna bring
nobody in that.
- I don't know, I feel like
he's not telling us
the whole story.
Sounds to me like he might
have a boyfriend.
- I need to ask him
more questions.
- Sure.
- [sighs]
- Try to keep it cool
and collected.
- [groans, laughs]
- What's Kevon got to do
with this?
- What do you mean?
- He got something
to do with it.
Didn't he call you
or y'all was texting?
Got DM-ed or something.
- We--yeah, we DM-ed him.
- And who's Dedrick?
- A friend of mine,
a real close friend of mine.
- What?
- You're clout chasers.
'Cause they ain't more
lit than me.
I'm just about to say that.
They ain't more lit.
- Oh, they are, though.
Don't worry about nobody else.
- I am!
- Worry about yourself.
- I'm lit, like--
I want walk down--They want me.
- So if you so lit,
why you gotta go to "Catfish"
and stuff like that?
Go get you somebody else
since you're so [bleep] lit.
- Shut up.
- I'm very lit. I'm very lit.
- You're getting beside
yourself. Chill out.
- Who's gonna chill me?
I'ma stand right here.
You got a boyfriend?
- Yeah, a on and off boyfriend.
- So why you talking to me,
you got an on and off
boyfriend?
- Every time we chatted,
me and my boyfriend
wasn't together.
Like I said, on and off.
When I disconnected from you,
we were together.
I respect you that much.
- You don't respect me
that much.
- Well, he said they were
on and off.
But both of you
deceived each other.
- I didn't deceive nobody.
I don't know what
you're talking about.
- You over here trying to,
like, be extra.
- I'm not trying to be extra.
- Yes, you are.
Because
why you going this way?
- The only way for y'all
to clear the air
is to be 100%.
- And the thing about that is,
that's funny to me.
I'm not upset about that.
Kudos to [bleep] you.
- No.
- I'm gonna go in your Airbnb
and sit down.
- He just walking in
people's houses.
- You see, this is the type of
crazy [bleep].
Like nobody got the time
to deal with that.
- But you can understand
why he's upset, can't you?
- I can't.
- He said "I love you."
You could have, at that point,
been like,
"Yo, man,
I'm not feeling that."
- Wanna come--
let's go out there and--
we're just gonna defuse.
- How are we gonna defuse
the situation?
What's gonna defuse
the situation?
- The only way to defuse
the situation is just...
be chill.
- Look, so somehow
he got the impression
that you guys
were much more serious
than you thought.
- He don't give a [bleep]
about nothing you saying, Nev.
Look how he's standing.
- All right, all right.
So let's--
- No one cares if he's
taking off his bookbag?
I'm not scared of you.
- See, what are you saying?
- Hey, hey.
- I'm not scared of you.
- Look at you.
- Hey...
- Look at you
with this mesh shirt on,
with these burgundy pants
and these black shoes.
- But you're ugly
as [bleep] though.
- That's fine, I love it.
- You're really ugly
as [bleep], like--
- That's fine.
- All right, let's go
for the moment
And maybe meet back up.
- Come on.
- And we can try
to sort of reset this.
- Okay.
- Let's go get some Fiji water.
- Nice meeting you.
- You too.
- Get this [bleep] mic
off of me.
Get this [bleep] off of me.
I'm out here looking crazy.
Take this [bleep] off of me.
[tense music]
Dumbass bitch.
- All right, so, look.
Now that you've had some time,
I texted Ray'Quan
to meet back up.
Let's just clear the air.
And if nothing else,
leave things
on hopefully just
somewhat better terms.
Oh...
That looks like
he's with Kevon.
- [laughs/groans]
Now y'all gonna be
playing in my face.
- I didn't know Kevon
was coming.
- I don't understand
why he's here.
- Hold on a second.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
- Why are you here though?
- He brought me here
for support
And I'm here for support.
But also I came
because I heard, like,
the first conversation was,
like, super hostile,
so if it go down,
I'ma protect my friends.
- All right, let's--
let's just do one at a time.
I'm sure everybody
has something to say.
So first we now understand
that the relationship
that was taking place
between you guys
was different for you--
- Just, like,
a friendship to me.
- Fine.
Can you explain why
your Instagram page--
- Mm-hmm.
- Is selfie.gawdd.
- Mm-hmm.
- And your Facebook page.
- Mm-hmm.
- Is selfie.gawdd.
- Oh, that's something--
we're--we're, like,
elementary school
friends though.
- That was something
we did as a joke.
- You guys just came up...
- You're clowns.
- With that
when you were young.
- Speak when spoken to.
- What the [bleep].
- Let me just talk to them
for a second.
- Nobody's controlling
my mouth.
I'ma speak when I want to.
- But, Kevon,
when we messaged with you
and you asked us
to meet you here
and then you didn't show up,
what was going on?
- Because he asked me not to.
- He called me.
- And I'm not a clout chaser.
I have my own clout.
Like I don't--I don't need
anybody else.
- I don't even know you.
- I wanna apologize
for how I came off earlier.
- What are you
apologizing for?
- He wants to apologize,
let's hear--
let's hear him out.
- I wanna apologize to Zeke.
- Oh, my God.
- For how I came off earlier.
He was gonna get
an apology, but--
- Oh, my God,
give him a Emmy
or a Golden Globe
or something.
He needs something.
- Get you a mother[bleep]
clipper, bitch,
'cause you look a [bleep] mess.
- You look a [bleep] mess
with this mesh shirt
and these burgundy pants!
It's not a look!
- What do you wanna do, boo?
- Truth didn't
come here to fight.
- So why is he talking--
- I can say what I wanna say.
- You're the antagonizer
right now.
You're the antagonizer
right now.
[indistinct shouting]
- Bitch, 'cause where I'm from
I will really beat you
the [bleep] up!
- Everybody. Everybody.
[indistinct shouting]
- We got off
on the wrong foot.
- You're a [bleep] mess, bitch.
- No.
What you're not gonna do
is switch up words
in front of these,
what they said--
- You switched up words and
said we was in a relationship
when we wasn't.
- I never--did I say?
I said we were dating.
- We wasn't [bleep] dating
neither, dumbass.
- Clearly.
- Well, at the--at the--
- Could you just tell him
to be quiet while we talk?
- Why so angry?
- You haven't seen angry.
Can you, like,
point the camera over there,
'cause I'm about to grab it
and throw it.
- Unless there's something else
that we haven't covered--
- I--I'm going with y'all.
- All right, why don't we--
why don't we--
- I'ma keep talking to Dedrick
and all them people that--
- Well, [bleep] all of them
and [bleep] you.
- I can't.
- Where's the car?
Get me out of here.
- I think that went
really well.
- Nev, [bleep] you.
- So I actually--I do have
one question for you.
I understand y'all
have never met,
hang out, whatever.
But where's the animosity from?
- We have mutual friends.
- You do have mutual friends.
- And he has tried
to talk to me.
He was following me
for a long time,
like, DM-ing me, but,
obviously I'm not interested,
like...
- Okay, so he has
hit you up before.
- Yeah.
I just know that he's,
like, full of drama
and I know he acts like that.
- For me the bottom line is...
if he didn't like you
and he wasn't into you,
he wouldn't have talked
to you all that time.
- So Ray'Quan just left.
- Yeah.
- This situation's over.
- Right.
- I just want to enforce
to you,
you gotta be careful online.
You don't know these people.
You gotta be careful.
- Sorry.
- I'm sorry as well
that it didn't turn out the way
that you wanted it to.
But you were big to do this.
- I'm over it.
- Fair enough.
- Fair enough.
- Let's get out of here.
- Yo.
- Hey, hey.
- Let's see if we can get Truth
on the line here.
[FaceTime ringing]
Whoa. What's up, buddy?
- Hey.
- We were very curious to know
how things are going
since we last saw you.
- I just wanna know
what happened with Cierra.
I, honestly, I have been
concerned.
- It is what it is.
We're friends.
We're still friends.
She's good.
We talked about it,
so we're in a good space.
- That's good to hear.
- Yeah, what do you think
you learned about yourself?
- I just don't want you to be
completely closed off from
love period.
- Yeah.
- No love.
- Sounds like you're just
sort of moving forward
not looking back.
- It is what it is.
- All right, thanks, Truth.
- All right, bye.
- Later.
[FaceTime ringing]
Hey.
- Hey.
- How are you?
- I'm good.
It's a lot calmer now,
so...
I honestly feel like, um...
things could have went
a lot different
if both of us had, like,
a clear mind
and were both able
to listen to each other.
- Nice. Do you still feel
the same way, though,
about how you think he totally
misinterpreted the situation?
- Absolutely.
But I feel bad how
the situation turned out.
Because my mind wasn't
where his mind was.
So I just hope in time
he finds somebody
that's on his level.
- Well, that's nice.
You want him to find love.
- Yeah, I just want him
to find somebody
that's, you know...
- On his level.
- [chuckling] Yeah.
- All right, buddy.
- All right, you guys.
Thank you. Bye.
- See you.
- Bye.
- Three years ago, Shakinah
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