Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 7, Episode 19 - Mike & Joey - full transcript

- Mike met this hot guy on
Grindr, Joey.

- I really poured my heart out
to him.

He was there to listen to me.

This is nerve-racking.
We are so close.

- All right.
So, this is it.

- Oh, no.
No.

- Hello?

- Oh, my God.

- I don't know if there's
anyone in here.

- This is ridiculous.

[dramatic musical sting]



- Hey, everyone.
Nev, here.

And welcome back to "Catfish."

This time around,

we're attempting the
impossible:

trying to find someone who can
take the place

of the legendary silver-fox,
Max.

In the next weeks, we'll have
lots of cool people join us.

People like, artist,
Tallulah Willis.

- He needs to be wowing you.

- Model, Kamie Crawford.

Wow!
- I knew it.

- And NBA star, Nick Young.

How's it going, man?

It's gonna be a wild ride,



as we search for
a new co-host.

This week--very lucky
that we have

Jane Carrey.

[exciting music]

Aside from being the daughter

of her funny, famous
father, Jim,

Jane has made her own path.

Jane's a rock star, literally.

Her music and videos
have been viewed

millions of times online.

She's even made the Hollywood
cut of "American Idol."

She's an awesome singer,
hardworking, single mom;

and most importantly,
a "Catfish" super fan.

So, please welcome Jane.

- Yes, I'm very excited.

- Well, uh, let's get to it.
- Okay.

- So, no big deal,

but you are the daughter
of Jim Carrey.

- You go through the same
things

that everybody else goes
through as a--as a kid

and as a teenager.

It was a different experience,

but it was never boring.

- Yeah, I'm sure.

- [laughs]
- So, here we are.

Your unique existence has lead
you here.

- But I think it's amazing.

And I've always been really
interested in the show.

And I always wanna know how
people work.

You know, the minds of--of how
people get to these places.

- Let's do this.
- I'm so down.

- All right, so this is
the "Max Cam."

These cameras aren't enough
for me.

- Okay.
- I need this--

- Every angle possible.
- Also.

All right, here we go.
We got an email here from Mike.

"Dear Nev and Jane,

my name is Mike and I may
have met the love of my life."

- Ooh.
- All right.

"I'm 19 and I recently decided

to follow my dreams

and make the biggest move
of my life

from Connecticut to
California."

- Oh, hey.

- "But right before I moved,

I met Joey on Grindr.

And he is physically everything
I want in a man."

- ♪ He's a man so tall,
so perfect ♪

- "Moving to California has
been

harder than I thought it
would be,

and Joey was a shoulder to
lean on

when I got down."

- ♪ You look like you're
so damn scared ♪

- "We went from strangers to
BFFs in a matter of weeks."

- ♪ Our time is through ♪

- "And let me tell you,

the sparks were flying."
- Flying.

- ♪ You played your game,
it was all for you ♪

- "Obvi, I wanted to take
things

to the next level and
video chat.

When he finally agreed
to it,

the room was pitch-black.

I'm not stupid, red flags."
- Yes.

- "A couple weeks ago,
Joey told me

he was gonna come and visit
me.

Just when I thought we were on
the right track,

Joey messaged me and said
he couldn't make it."

- ♪ You look like you're
so damn scared ♪

♪ I don't really think
you care ♪

"I need to figure out with
the deal is with him,

ASAP."

- ♪ You look like you're
so damn scared ♪

- "He seems perfect, but I have
big plans for myself,

and if he's not legit,
then I have no time for him.

Can you help?
Mike."

- ♪ It was all for you ♪

- You move to California
at 19

and the last thing you want is
to be hung-up--

- Yeah.
- With a relationship back home

with someone you don't even
know is real.

- Exactly.
- All right.

So, let's call this guy.

[computer beeping]

- Hey, guys.
- Oh!

Look at this guy.

- [laughs]
- The open shirt.

- I mean, I don't like wearing

shirts in general, but I
figured

for an occasion.
[laughing]

- [laughs]
- So, you're over-dressed?

- Yeah, this is like,
the most clothes

you're ever gonna see me
wear in my whole life.

- Your tan is fantastic.
- Thank you.

- This is Jane, our guest
co-host.

- Nice to meet you.

- When did you move here?

- I moved to San Diego back
in March.

- What dream did you pursue

to--in moving to the
West Coast?

- Well, I don't really see
myself as working.

I think, ideally, the best
fit for me

would to be a top-of-the-line
trophy husband.

- Okay.

- No, it is a career path these
days.

- Wow.
So, you're in San Diego,

flaunting your stuff
in the--in the hopes of meeting

a successful, handsome man
who will take care of you.

- Oh. Okay.
[laughter]

Now, is that really what
you want?

Or is it fun to sort of say
that and joke about it?

- Of course it's what I want.
I don't wanna be in an office.

I don't wanna have to dress up.
Nobody wants to do that.

- How do you afford to live?
- How do you make it--

- In San Diego?
- Mm-hmm.

- Well, my roommate's
really nice,

and he lets me live rent-free.

- So, you already found a guy

to sort of take care of you.

- No.
- [laughs]

- Oh, you're not into him?
- No. No, no, no.

- But is he into you?

- I like to say,
"Who isn't into to me?"

but, um...

- And what about your family?
Are they cool with this?

- What do they think you do?

- They don't know the whole
situation.

They think that I work at
Starbucks.

[laughs]
- Okay so, you move to

California 'cause it suits
your lifestyle.

But, since you left,
you've been talking to Joey,

who you met on Grindr
in Connecticut.

- Yes.
When we first started talking,

it was like, my fault that
we couldn't meet up.

I was just packing, but we
started talking on the phone

for like, hours.

It was a lot of chemistry.

And when I first came here,
he was a shoulder to lean on,

because, you know,
I'm 2,500 miles away

from everybody I grew up with.

Where he was the one who

told me like, you know,
"Stick it out.

See how it works."

We've gotten really intimate
with our conversations

and really personal.

I wanna say I'm in love,
but it's hard to say that.

'Cause we haven't met
face-to-face yet,

but I just feel like he is
the one that I really,

really am destined for.

- Wow.
What does Joey do for work?

- He's a mechanic.

Like, I know Joey's not
the richest.

- But you said that you're
looking for a man

who will take care of you.

And it doesn't sound like
Joey's in a position

to support a lifestyle that
you are hoping to maintain.

- Yeah.
- I really want to be

taken care of by some dude,
or whatever, but like,

money aside--California aside,

love is about making
compromises.

- Okay.

- Joey is like, the one
I want.

- But, there are some
things about him

that are red flags.
- Yeah.

- So, I'm sure it's occurred
to you that perhaps

he might not be the
good-looking guy

you think he is.

- I have like, my concerns

but again, like, I'm
trying--I'm kinda just

holding onto that last bit
of hope.

- All right, so, we're gonna
put you on a train up to L.A.

I would say, "Pack a bag,"
but you could probably

fit everything you need into
a fanny pack.

- [laughs]

- See you soon.
- Bye.

- Wow.

- I mean, he--he knows
what he wants.

- Well, that's the question.
- Yeah.

- Does he really know what he
wants?

- No.
- Or is he wildly

full of it?

- I don't know.
- I can't wait.

All right.

[rock music]

What do you think he'll
be wearing?

Maybe it should be--
- Or not wear.

- Right. Right.
- [laughs]

- I think he's here.
Op--whoop.

- [gasps]
- Oh, my God.

He's so tan.

- He has time to tan.

- What's up?
- Nice to meet you.

- This is Jane.
- Nice to meet you, too.

- Here, give me your bag.
I'll throw it in the trunk.

Welcome.
- Thank you.

- How familiar are you
with the show?

- I mean, I used to laugh
at it, back in the day.

Not to be mean, but like,
I laugh at these people.

'Cause these people
would be like, dedicate years

of their life to somebody
they don't know.

- But here you are.

- I know.
Here I am.

- So, we rented you a little
house.

- Aw, it's a cute little place.

- Whoa.

- Oh, that's hot.
- Look at this.

You got a little pool.

Whew!

- That's nice.

- Whew, lounge.

- I usually tan like this,

depending on the way the sun
goes.

- No sunscreen?

- No.
- Never?

- You don't put a table cloth
over a painting.

- You're right. That would
be--that would be crazy.

You're a work of art.
- I try.

[laughs]
- All right.

- Let's sit down.

So, when you had decided
back in Connecticut

that you were gonna move
to California, you had a goal.

- You want to meet a sugar
daddy in San Diego.

- Yeah, they're richer down
there, anyway.

- Okay.
- [laughs]

- And you did actually meet
someone

that's been letting you
kind of live for free.

- Yeah.
He was like, "Just look hot."

And I was like, "Okay, that's
the perfect deal ever."

- When he said, "Look hot,"

he obviously wanted more?

- Well, I mean, there's
a difference between

looking hot and being in heat.

[laughter]
- "Being in heat."

- So, that's not a romantic
relationship?

- No. I tan, eat sushi, and
drink on the beach every day.

It's the best.

- And this whole time,
you're talking to Joey?

- Yeah.
- All right.

So, take us back to March

and tell us how this whole
thing unfolded.

- Okay, so, when me and Joey

first started talking,
he was really sweet.

He wasn't asking for sex
and pictures.

You know, like, the typical
Grindr scene.

- And just like Tinder,
when you log on to Grindr,

and you meet someone, they have
to actually be close to you.

- Yeah.
- Okay, so you started

talking to Joey?

- I'm curious, what was
so different

about your conversation
with him?

- I was really, like, nervous--

obviously moving across the
country, away from everybody.

So, like, I really poured
my heart out to him,

and he was there to listen
to me.

- All right, so you get
out to San Diego.

Was he like, your go-to
call when you were--

- Yeah.
- In a tough spot?

- Because he knew like,
a lot more intimate feelings

than like, friends did.

And my friends know me
as very confident.

- Joey knows a little bit more
of like, the vulnerable side?

- Yeah.
I'm myself around him.

I would talk to him if I
was feeling sad or homesick.

And he was always there to
comfort me.

- Do you call him?

- Yeah.
- You're talking on the phone?

- We'll speak for like, hours.
[laughs]

- And you don't think there's
any chance that

like, it could be someone
you know

pretending to be Joey,
do you?

- No. It doesn't sound like
any of my friends.

Not that I know of.

- Did you push to FaceTime
and video chat?

- I did push, but there
was always a technical error.

The one and only time he got
it to connect,

it was pitch-black.

I was like, "Are you
kidding me right now?"

He said that it was his camera.

And I was like, "That's
bull-crap."

- Did you guys ever talk
about meeting up?

- We talked about him
coming out here,

but it's always like,
a financial excuse or work.

And I know Joey's not the
richest.

- So, on one hand, you say
you just want to sort of meet

a successful man who wants
to have you

be a trophy husband.

- Mm-hmm.
- On the other hand,

you're talking about making
compromises for love.

- Yeah.
- I don't know that those

two things are necessarily
going to cross paths.

- Yeah, which is weird
right now, for me.

[laughs nervously]

I'm kind of at an impasse,
where I can go either route.

- All right, I think we need
to see this guy.

- Yeah.

- Wow, not what I expected.

He's kind of emo.

- No he's not. Don't say that.
I don't like emo people.

- [laughs]
- Oh

Well, he's uh...

- He's alternative.
Even that's a little iffy.

- He's got some--some gauged
earrings.

You know, he's got some
tattoos.

- I know, tattoos are hot.

- All right, I get it.
He's a very good-looking guy.

- Yeah.

- Do you think you want to
meet Joey

to find out that he's not
who he says he is,

so that you can just move on?

- I want to believe

That it's him.

I'm really serious about this.

- But if it's him, then
that's a bigger issue for you.

- If Joey's real--
- Yeah, exactly.

- If he's not real,
then makes it easier for me.

- That's what I'm saying.
- Yes, exactly.

- But if he's real,
then all of a sudden

you gotta think like,
"Aw man." That doesn't match up

with your vision for yourself.
- I mean--

- As a SoCal sugar baby.

- But, let's face it.
I mean, I'm only gonna be hot

till like, I'm like, 29
or something like that.

That's like, when it all goes
downhill from there, right?

- Well, I know that this isn't
going to last forever.

It's scary.
So...

I really wanted to give Joey
a shot,

because, it's not so
superficial.

- I hope it works out for you.
- Thank you.

- We'll do some work, and we'll
check back in in the morning.

- Perfect.

Bye.
- Bye.

He's got a version of himself
that he presents.

- Mm-hmm.
- That I think he thinks

is the most like,
fun and attractive,

but then a lot more going on.

- You can see sincerity there.

And then he kind of goes like
this...

- Right.
- You know?

- Right.
- This is a pivotal moment

in his life.

If this doesn't pan out,

if this isn't him,
what is he gonna do?

[exciting music]

- All right.

We got a good one
for you, folks.

What do you think, so far?

- Interesting.
A lot of questions.

- I don't know what growing up
in East Hartford

as a gay man is like.

But, I imagine Mike didn't
have the easiest time.

- I think in an effort to find
some identity,

he became a character that
wants like, a sugar daddy.

- Mm-hmm.
- To take care of him.

- Mm-hmm.
- And "I wanna go out and eat

sushi, because that's
what I've seen on television.

- But he still wants to
explore--

- Right.
- The whole Joey-path.

And it's almost the opposite

of what he says he wants,
completely.

- Right.
Let's dive in.

See what we can figure out.

- "Here's all the contact info
I have for Joey.

His phone number, he lives in
East Hartford.

He's a mechanic, but I
don't know where.

I attached some pics.
Two are on his Facebook,

but he also messaged me
a more private pic."

- Ooh.

- So, now we've got a pic
of Joey's bulge.

- It doesn't even look
attached, really.

Oh, my God.
Dick print.

- Jane, have you ever done
an image search?

- Yes, and I've seen you
do it a lot.

- Great. So, let's start
with this first one,

and just see if this guy
is someone.

All right.
No.

What about that one?

- No.
No hits.

Let's try the bulge.
- Dick print.

- Oh!
- Oh!

We got something--
- Schwing.

- On the dick pic.
Here we go.

This picture is on a couple
websites.

It's on a Pinterest board.
- Mm-hmm.

- Okay so, bottom line,
one of the photos

that Joey sent may likely
not have been his.

But, I don't think
an internet-sourced dick pic--

- No.
- Is confirmation

that someone is or isn't--
- No.

- Who they say they are.
It might mean that

he has a somewhat smaller--
- Yes.

- Penis than the one pictured.
- Or he's female.

- Well, that's true.
But, they've talked

on the phone a lot, so that
would be impressive.

- 'Cause that would be the
first time?

- No.

- [low-pitched voice]
I mean I can, you know

be really deep in my voice.

[normal voice]
Probably not very convincing,

but...
- Hold on, wait.

I'll try to imagine you
as a--a 25 year-old mechanic.

I've got this rattle
every time I start the car.

It's like: Glug, glug,
glug, glug.

- [low-pitched voice]
Are you driving it?

Because that--that could get--
- No, no, no.

Not convincing.

- [laughs]

- Um, let's run his number.

No name.

- Quinebaug.
- Connecticut.

- Online number.
- Yeah, exactly.

So, maybe he's not in
Connecticut,

but he needed a Connecticut
area code.

- Right.
Right, right, right.

- Let's just take a closer look

at Joey's wall, here.

- Comments.

- Desiray posted on
Joey's page,

"You were right all along.
My battery

totally needed to be replaced."

- Hmm.
- If she's getting car advice

from Joey, maybe she knows him.

We should message this girl.

All right.
- Who are his followers?

- Joey has 500 and something
friends,

but they are very random.

Like, Colorado.
- Yeah.

Alabama, San Francisco,
Thailand.

I mean, his friends are from--
- Everywhere.

- All over the place.
To me, that indicates

like, lots of random
friendships.

With people he clearly doesn't
know in person.

[phone buzzing]
- [gasps]

Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
- Phone call.

Hello?

- Yeah, hi.
Who's this?

- Desiray, hi.
How are ya?

- Do you have FaceTime?

Just so you can see it's
us,

and--and we can see who
we're talking to.

- Okay.

Hi.

- Hey, it works.

Great.
This is Jane.

She's helping me out on
this episode.

- Hey.

- We're helping someone who's
been talking

to Joey--meet up in person.

- And when we went on Joey's
Facebook page,

we saw that you posted,
"Thanks,"

something about your battery.

- Where was that?

- Oh, okay.

- So, you confirm that Joey

is the guy in the pictures
on his Facebook page?

- Huh.
And other than your post

on his Facebook page,
have you guys like,

communicated at all?

- You guys have kind of
become friends, I guess.

- What do you guys chat about
when you have coffee?

- Really?

- What does he say about Mike?

- All right.
Well, cool.

That's all very helpful.

- All right.
- Thank you.

- Bye, Desiray.
- Bye.

- Uh, I don't know.

That phone call was
suspiciously helpful.

- Yeah, it was weird.

- "I don't have a phone number
for him."

- She said a lot about him,

and about his world.
- Yeah.

Desiray could be involved.

- Mm-hmm.
- Covering for Joey.

And she's giving us the
perfect, "Oh, yeah.

He's the guy in the pictures.
All he does

is talk about Mike, and
how he wants to meet him."

- Yes.
- But, who knows.

Maybe she is telling the truth.

There is a chance that Joey
is who he says he is,

and everything is true.

But, there's also a very good
chance--

- That it's not.
- That it's not.

What is he hiding?

- Hello?

Is he out back?
Oh, yeah.

There he is, he's got
one knee up.

Oh, he just alternated.

- [laughs]
- Hello?

- Hey, how's it going?
[laughs]

- Oh, we're glad to see
you're drinking water.

- Of course.

How's it going?
[laughs]

- What's so funny?
- Hey.

- Is that like, a nervous
laugh?

- No, I just giggle.

- All right.
Well, if you feel like

you've had enough sun
for the moment--

- Yeah.
- Why don't we go inside?

We'll talk about everything.

Some of it's good.
Some of it's uncertain.

All right.

Well, you're a pretty
gutsy guy.

- Mm-hmm.
- What are you guts

telling you right now about
where you think this is going?

- I hope this is going
positive.

I just hope it's
in a positive direction.

But, I mean, if it doesn't
work out,

I'm ready to be
a trophy husband.

Like, I watch "The Real
Housewives of..."

like, everything, so I've
studied for years.

- But "The Real Housewives of
Beverly Hills," it's not

necessarily real life.

My parents had problems,
and I had problems.

Wealth doesn't make you
happy, necessarily.

Regardless of being on TV
because of it.

- I mean...
- And honestly,

the fact that you're exploring
the Joey-relationship,

makes me feel like you--you
want something more.

And that you're willing to give
up that thing

that you've been saying that
you've been

so passionate about from day
one, to be happy.

- I don't know.

Um, I don't really even know
what's drawing me to Joey.

Like, it's weird.
It's like weird,

chemical reaction
kind of thing.

- Like, maybe you're trusting
your heart and your gut.

- Yeah.

- So, why don't we just show
you what we found?

And we can try and all make
some sense of it.

All right.
The first thing we did,

obviously, is we went to do
an image search.

Now, when we googled that
picture he sent you

of his sweatpants...
- [laughs]

Yeah.
- We got a hit.

And it turned up on a
Pinterest account.

So, he clearly found this
picture on the internet

and lied.

- Yeah.
- Well, then that's not fair,

because I sent him an
actual nude photo.

- Full nude?
- I was like, from my back.

- Okay.
- It was just a butt shot.

- Okay, so, then we searched
the phone number.

And that gave us a hit.

The number you have is
probably like, a VoIP or--

- Okay.
- Internet phone number.

- Sketchy.
- Yeah.

- It could mean something
simple and technical

or it could mean that he is
intentionally

keeping you separate from his
life in some way.

- Well, I feel like if he
was keeping me separate,

he wouldn't be so, you know,

open about it on his Facebook.

- That's true.
But, when we looked through

his Facebook, there isn't
a lot on there.

And the friends are from
all around the world.

That guy--
- He has 500 friends.

None of them are from
his hometown.

- Well, I don't know how
he knows people way across

the world, if he can't even
come across the United States.

So...
- Well, Right.

He clearly doesn't know
these people.

- So, that was odd.
- Mm-hmm.

- Now, when we looked a little
bit more closely, at--

- Scrolling.
- His posts on his wall,

we came across this one.

Someone said, "You were
right all along.

My battery totally needed
to be replaced."

- I didn't even see that.
- So, we sent her a message.

She called us.
- Oh, that's good, right?

That's good.
- And we FaceTimed.

That's hot.
- To make sure that

she's really her.
- Mm-hmm.

- And she is.
She's the girl in the pictures.

She told us that she was
at Starbucks,

came out to start her car.
It wasn't starting.

And that some guy--some
strange guy,

came across the street
and offered

to help her jumpstart her car.

- Okay.
- And it was Joey.

And she then said,
"Well, thanks."

And I guess she became
Facebook friends.

- Mm-hmm.
- Okay, that's good.

- She then said, "He talks
about his friend Mike a lot."

- Mm-hmm.

- And so, all of that was like,

"Oh, this Joey is just a
stand-up guy,

who helps strangers, ends up
becoming friends with them,

and talking about his
long-distance BFF, Mike.

But it all just felt
too good to be true.

That this girl--
- Yeah.

- Would post on his page,
and then tell us this perfect

piece of information of how
he's this sweet guy.

And he's totally real, and she
seemed a little too helpful.

- Yeah.
- And if it is really him,

why has he been so shady?

Why is he sending you
fake pictures?

Why can't he video chat?

There's a couple theories
that we have.

One, of course, Joey is
really him.

He--he's a little uncomfortable
maybe on camera.

Didn't wanna send you
a picture of his actual dick,

'cause he's smart.

And--and yeah.
He hasn't--he's been cautious,

because he doesn't wanna
get too involved with you,

because you live in California
now.

And he's not sure how serious
you are,

because you're a crazy
19-year-old.

Another version is that
it's someone else entirely

who made a fake profile,
who's friends with Desiray.

And Desiray is helping him
make a convincing argument

that he's real.

- [sighs]
Okay.

- At this point,
having talked to Desiray

and having sent some messages
around,

like, there's a good chance
he'll find out

we're looking for him.

- Exactly.
- So, we might as well just

see if he's interested
in meeting up.

[dramatic music]

- He can try calling him.

- Okay, great.

♪ ♪

[line trilling]

[line trilling]

- Hi, please leave your
message after the tone.

[voicemail beeps]

- Hey, Joey.
This is Nev from "Catfish."

I'm with Mike out here
in California.

I've heard a lot about you.
We'd love to meet up with you;

see if we can figure out
a way to make that happen.

So, give me a call back
when you get this.

Okay, thanks.

All right.
We haven't found

any information that suggests
that Joey isn't in

the Hartford, East Hartford
area.

So, if you're okay going
back to Connecticut

for a couple days,
I think we should plan on that.

Unless we hear otherwise.

- Well, let's do it,
because I wanna get

this whole Joey thing
over with.

- Let's just plan on leaving
in the morning.

- Mm-hmm.
- You guys might see me

in pants for the first and only
time in my life.

- Oh. Lots of photos of that.
- I'm Looking forward to it.

- I'm ready.

- Just plan on being ready
to go in the morning.

- All right.

We're doing it.
- Yes.

- Put some sunscreen on.
- Not likely.

- Well, I am hoping
this works out.

But, I'm worried that Desiray

isn't giving us--
- No.

- The full story.
- No, not at all.

- We've got a big day tomorrow.

This really still
could be anybody.

- Gonna head to the airport.

All right, car is waiting.

So, it's 5:30 in California,

which means it's 8:30
in Connecticut.

Not heard anything from
either Joey or Mike.

If I'm a mechanic,
I'm probably up

and at work by now.

So, the fact that we haven't
heard back from Joey,

has made me a little worried.

So, I'm gonna call Desiray
back.

Maybe she could try getting
in touch with him?

[phone ringing]

- Your call has been forwarded
to an automated--

Okay, so Desiray has confirmed

Joey is definitely in
Connecticut.

Unless she's messing with us,

I would say that's
a positive sign.

- All right.
- Hey, hey.

- Perfect timing.
Look at this guy.

- What?
- I hardly recognized you.

Fully dressed.
- I know.

Shocker, right?
- I see a little skin, here.

A little skin here.
And that's it.

Have you heard anything?

- All right.
So, he's--he's ignoring you.

And me. Obviously, he's
a little freaked out.

- Yeah.

[exciting music]

- ♪ Hope for something ♪

♪ Tried to realize ♪

- Coming for you, Joey.

- I'm coming for you, Joey.

- We're here in Connecticut,

and they're either gonna
connect or cut.

- Anybody, now that our phones
are back on, any updates?

- No, he opened all my chats
and didn't answer.

- That's messed up.
- So, yeah.

He better have a good excuse.

[electronic music]

- It's the fashion police.
- [laughs]

- Ha-ha-ha-ha.

I don't wear clothes, anyways.
[Laughter]

So, it doesn't matter.
- Oh.

- Hey.
- Morning. Good morning.

- How's it going?
- The white shirt really,

like, brings out the tan.
I love it.

So, what's going on?

- My nerves are just crazy,
right now.

It's ridiculous.

- Have you heard anything?

- No. No, no, no.

- My concern is,
is that an indication

that maybe just Joey doesn't
really wanna see you?

- I'd hope not.

- Well, right.
- Or that maybe he's not him,

and he doesn't know exactly
what to do about that.

- I mean, either way, it's kind
of becoming a turn-off.

I mean, it's insecurity
at this point, I think.

- If we end up meeting with
Joey, whoever Joey is,

do you know what you're
gonna say?

- If it's him, I mean,
I--I'm gonna just be,

you know, overjoyed that
it's him.

But, if not, I don't know yet.

I'm just--I'm really not
prepared for that.

- Yeah.
- At all, right now.

- I feel for ya, I do.

- If this doesn't happen,

do you think you'll be
motivated to sort of lean

in to your search for
trophy husband more?

Or do you think you'll still
keep a space--

- I mean, I don't really think
I'll have to search.

I think that like,
they just come to me.

Like I said, everything I've
wanted in life,

I haven't searched for.
It's come to me.

I'm perfectly fine with just
living my life,

and tanning and eating sushi
and laying out.

Laying in bed.

- But, I think you have a lot
more potential

than just being hot and young.

[phone pings]
- Oh.

- Oh.
- Text.

- That's hot, Desiray.
- Mm-hmm.

She says, "I'm not really
sure what's going on.

You can meet me here."
And then a--an address.

"Okay, will Joey be there?"

- Something is off.

- Yeah, I'm not really sure.
Oh.

she's responding.

Got bubbles.
- I wanna see. I wanna see.

- I got bubbles.

Oh. She said,
"Just come.

It's all so complicated
right now."

- That's ridiculous.

It shouldn't be this
complicated.

- "Okay, we will
head over now."

- Okay, let's go.
Let's do this.

- All right.

- Oh, my God.
This is nerve-racking.

We are so close.

This is like, what I've
been waiting for

and dreading and excited about

this whole time.

[dramatic music]

- All right.
Getting close now.

You ever been over here?

- No, this is scary.

- It is pretty woodsy
around here.

- [whispering]
No one can hear you scream.

- [chuckles]

- All right.
- Oh, my God.

[laughs nervously]
Oh, my God.

This is so crazy.

- Wow, really on the lake.

- If he lives in a lake house,
that's amazing.

- Well, it sounds like
this is Desiray's house.

So, unless Desiray and Joey
are related...

All right.
So, this is it.

- Oh, no. No, no.

- All right.
Well look, anything can happen.

We don't know who's gonna
come out of that door.

It could be Desiray and Joey.
It could be just Desiray.

- I just want to do this
already.

- All right. All right.
- I'm ready to do this.

This is what I've been waiting
for five months for.

- Let's do it

[dramatic music]

- Does that look like a door
that gets used?

I can't really tell.
- It looks more like--

- Like a basement.
- I heard--I heard

something up there.

Somebody's walking up there.
- You saw someone?

- I--I heard something.
- Oh.

Check it out.

♪ ♪

It's nice.

I don't know.

[knocking on door]

- I'm feeling your anxiety.

- There's a bell here.

[doorbell rings]

- What? Is this is house?
This is nice.

- I don't know.
- I could settle with this.

- Is anybody there?
- Hello?

The lights are not on.

I don't know if there's
anyone in here.

I can't tell.

Doorbell works.

Uh, I don't know.
What do you think?

Why don't we regroup
over by the car?

Figure out what we wanna do.

[dramatic music]

We could just pick a random
spot and go,

and hope that he--
we hear from him.

Or we could go
to the Starbucks,

'cause at least we know that
he tends to go there.

- Yes. Uh-huh.

- What's this?

[intense music]

Um, what?

♪ ♪

- Ew, what the [bleep]?

- What's this?

Um, what?

- Hi.
- Ew, what the [bleep]?

- Who--who is this?
- Hi, I'm Joey.

How are you?
- Oh, your name is Joey.

- No, I'm Mikey.
- Oh, you're Mikey?

- Yeah.
- Hi.

- Oh, my God.

That's so sad.
- Hi, Jane.

- Hi.
Nice to meet you.

- Nice to meet you.
- Wait, you know each other?

- We used to be best friends,
back in the day.

- So, hold on a second.

What's the--What was
the whole point of this?

- Well, I wanted to break
his heart,

like I got mine broken.

- He had this like, notion
out of nowhere

that I slept with his
now-ex-boyfriend.

- Out of nowhere, even though
I witnessed it,

you know, with my two eyes
in person.

- Your boyfriend was trying
to get with me.

And you're obsessed with me.
You need to stop.

- First of all,
put your hand down.

- No, because I don't wanna
[bleep] look at you.

- So, don't look at me--
- Next time, do your [bleep]

makeup, because this is a
reality show,

not a [bleep] horror show.

- I can't stand you.
- I can't stand looking at you.

- So, don't.
Jesus.

Like, don't.

- Oh, God.

- Okay, time-out.
- Yeah.

- Mikey, you and Mike had been
pretty good friends?

And at some point in your past

you had a boyfriend, and you're
pretty sure that

that boyfriend slept
or hooked up--

- Um, I witnessed it,
but he's gonna deny it

till the end, whatever.

- Did you make out with--
- No, I--never--no,

I never did.
He wanted to get with me.

- It doesn't matter.
- Yeah, I didn't want

any part of it.
He groped me and that was it.

I had no part of it,
not wanting to do

anything to do with it.
- All right, so--so,

- And then what happened
after that? You left, or?

- I didn't--I didn't leave
the party, or course not.

But, like--
- Did it go any farther?

- It didn't go any farther
with him, no.

- How long was this--that
something happened?

- It was like, winter.

- Is that when Joey
started--winter?

When did Joey start?
- March.

- So, your relationship ended

because of what happened
at that party?

- Uh, yeah.
- And then you found him

on Grindr and broke his heart
as a sort of, revenge?

- Yeah.

- So, who's--who's Joey?
Who's picture is that?

- Some random guy
that I found on Instagram.

I don't even know him.

- Okay.

- I don't know. I think it's
just--it's a sad story.

You went five months
talking to me,

and it got you nowhere.

I'm still living my best life
ever in California.

You're still here--
- Are you really though?

Is living your best life
living off of sugar daddies?

- I really don't think
it's fair

for you to be judging him,
right now.

You just--
- Yeah, you kinda--

- Took five months of his life,
and kind of upended it.

- He took my relationship
and ended it, so...

- Even if I did get with
your boyfriend,

it wouldn't matter,
'cause I would have done it

much better than you, anyway.

I'm going to beat you
at everything you ever do

for your entire life.

You will always be uglier,
older, disgusting.

- Okay. You're like, covered
in like, Cheeto dust.

Whatever.
- All right.

I wanna talk more.

Can we just go like,
over there,

and have a talk
without all the drama?

- Oh, my God.
He is disgusting.

- For the last five months
you've been

in a relationship with him.

And yet, you came out
here presenting as

like, this "I got you"
revenge thing.

I don't get it.

- I didn't really want it

to get to that point.

Like, I didn't even want it to
get to this point.

Like, this is ridiculous,
and it's been too long now.

Like, months of this--
wasting my life

trying to keep up with lies.

It is messed up, what I did,

and I'll own up to that.

Like, he did some
messed up things.

I did some messed up things.

- So, you guys were like,
best friends?

Were you like, really close?
- We were really close, yeah.

We were really, really close.

Our moms are really good
friends.

- Yeah.
- Then this whole

situation happens.

Obviously, I feel trifled with.

I feel hurt,

but I'm not gonna let it
get to me,

because it wasn't real.

- Yeah.

- Okay.
So, Desiray,

is a friend, I guess.
- Mm-hmm.

- Is that her house?
- Yeah.

- How did she get involved
in all this?

- I'm, like, good friends
with her,

and she said she said
she would cover for me.

She didn't wanna do it.

Like, it's all my doing,
basically.

- I think it would be nice
for you guys to talk

without all the fronts.

Without the "you're ugly"s.

Like, just to actually sit

without defenses, and just be
able to talk honestly

about how you feel.

- Are you guys gonna be there?

'Cause I don't wanna sit
with him alone.

- Okay. Yeah, then, no.
You don't have to.

- ♪ I got no more time
to hear ♪

♪ What you think about me ♪

- Has a part of you enjoyed

having a friendship again
with Mike?

- I don't know.
I mean, I have my moments where

I'm like, "Well this is nice
to be able to talk to him."

But he's just going
through life

taking advantage of everybody.

He needs a wake-up call.

- I mean, look,
even in the last few days

I've felt the same sort of
care-free,

self-obsession.

But, you've been the one
"real" thing for him

since he moved to California.

Someone he can open up to
and be real with.

So, he's gonna--this is gonna
hurt for him.

- ♪ If you could stop
remembering ♪

♪ All the time that
that you used up ♪

- Let's take a break.

I feel like maybe
if we could sit down,

and have a conversation
in a new environment--

You can come meet us somewhere,
get a coffee or something.

To kind of reset,
clear the air.

There's a good chance that you
guys could be friends again.

- I'm open to that.

It just depends on his level
of maturity, right now.

- ♪ All the time that
you used up ♪

- This looks like a nice
place to chat

to kind of reset.

All right.

Hopefully, we can have
a conversation

without being...
insulting or petty

or mean to each other.

[dramatic music]

So, um, we'll just start
things off.

I'm just so curious
about the Joey voice.

[laughter]

I asked Mike a million times,

"Is it possible that it could
be someone you know?"

And he said, "No, I would
recognize their voice."

- Well, first, I would like,
take my phone

and put it on my dresser,
with the TV going.

So, it was like, kind of muted.

And then, I would just be like,
very monotone.

- So you definitely made
an effort

to conceal your voice a little.

- Yeah.

- Do you think, possibly,
that maybe it--it went on

as long as it did,
because, you know,

you kind of had
your friend back?

In a way that--
- I mean,

we were close, but like--

- Well, we were very close.
Our moms our still close--

- Yeah, and then you went
and hooked up my boyfriend,

and it ended, so...

- I think, as a friend,
you should just get over it.

As a friend.

- I don't even know
what to say to that.

I'm open to being friends
with him again,

but I'm not open to beingfriends

with this like,
cartoon character.

Like, it's not what I'm into.

This is a character
right now like,

that you guys are talking to.

He's not really like this.
He's a good person.

Like, when you see glimpses
of him being like, normal,

that's how he always was.

But, he won't show that
anymore,

because now he has this
like, cartoon character.

And like...I'm just--
I'm over it.

- But, why are you
so concerned?

Like, why do you care?
- I'm not so concerned--

- I'm 2,500 miles away.

- You go through life
with this attitude that like,

nobody matters but you.

It kind of pisses people off.

- I have all the friends
that I want to have.

I have all the family
that I wanna have.

I have everybody in my life
that I want to have.

So I don't really care, 'cause
I know at the end of the day,

I'm still gonna got back to my
life and do what I wanna do.

- But you also know
that it's irresponsible

when you say things like,
"I'm just gonna--

tan and eat sushi
and be a sugar baby."

And pretend you don't care
about anything or anybody.

You know that.

Right?

- I don't know.
I mean, I think that this

is how I am all the time.

If you guys do think
I put on a character,

I think that I'm misunderstood.

- All right, well, look,

I think we think
we've kind of reached

a point where it's clear that
there are some things that

are going to stay unresolved.

- Okay.

- The bottom line is,
it's over.

It's over for you?
- Yeah.

- And it's over for you?

- ♪ Don't know how
to tell you ♪

- Why don't we all walk out,
and go our separate ways?

Good to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.

Thank you very much.
- Yep.

- Nice to meet you.
- It was nice meeting you.

Bye.
- All right.

- Bye.
- See you later, Mikey.

♪ ♪

How do you feel?

- I'm sad that I invested
all that time,

but you know what?

I'm going to just move on.

Life's short, bathing suits
should be shorter.

- [laughs]

[computer ring tone chiming]

All right, what do you think?
Do you think Mikey's

gonna be wearing a shirt?
- I do not.

- Hey!
- Hi.

- No shirt.
- What's up?

- What's that drink?
- Yeah.

- Powerade.
- Out of a wine glass.

So classy.
- "Wine" not?

- So, yeah.
What's been going on?

- Um, I have nobody new
in my life.

I am not dating anybody.

- Are you still searching
for a sugar daddy?

- I mean, I wouldn't want
it any other way.

- And what about Mikey?

Any follow-up with him?

- So, I had to go back
to Connecticut

and while I was there,
we patched things up.

- Really?
- Now we are civil.

We can have a conversation.
- That's great.

Well, you got something good
out of it, it seems.

- Yeah.
- Yeah.

- I got to meet amazing Jane

and hot Nev, and I'm happy.

- All right. Bye, Mike.
- Good talking to you.

- Bye.

[beeping]

- Hey.
- Hey!

- Hi.
- How's it going?

What's up?
- I'm pretty good.

Like, really thankful that
I had this experience.

It's a big relief to not be
dealing with such

negative energy anymore.

- It's exhausting to be
filled with hate.

- Yeah.
- We spoke to Mike,

and seems to be a possibility
for a friendship.

- I mean, he's still in like,

denial about what I saw
that night.

Um, I'm not gonna forget it.

You know, I forgive
but I don't forget.

- But, you've--you've let
it go?

- I mean,
we were friends before,

so it would be nice
to have that.

But honestly, I'm over it.
New me.

New life.
New vibes.

- So, it was like a purge
for you--getting all this out.

- Yeah, it was like
the last of it.

Bye.
- [laughs]

- Got it.
See ya later, man.

- Bye.

- Rachel met Vance online
11 years ago.

- His looks are just extra.

I'm in love with him.

- Whoa. This guy's got
a long arrest record.

It's possible that he may have
been communicating with you

from prison.

- What?

- Whoa.
- No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Oh, my God.

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