Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 6, Episode 3 - Danny & Rosa - full transcript
Danny is intent on building a family with his beautiful online love, despite her violent past. But when he enlists Nev and Max to help him finally meet her in person, they soon discover she may have ties to a former Catfish!
- Let'’s find out
who this girl really is.
- Let'’s see who the friends are.
Bran--Brandy!
She was on "Catfish."
- Wait a second.
That'’s crazy.
- I'’m buggin'’ out right now
for real.
- You guys wait here.
I'’ll knock on the door.
[knocking]
[dramatic music]
Hello.
- Hello.
[sobbing]
- I'’ll come in.
It'’s okay.
- [continues sobbing]
[intense music]
[upbeat electronic music]
- Hey!
- Hey!
- So we are now in season six
of "Catfish."
We'’ve made it this far.
Let'’s come up with a handshake
or something.
- I don'’t know.
I just--
- Okay.
- Boom.
- Boom.
And then foreheads touch.
[laughter]
Come on.
Touch foreheads.
Touch foreheads.
- Mm.
- There it is.
Let'’s do it.
We got an email, Max.
This is a love S.O.S.
"Dear Nev and Max,
my name is Danny
"and I have a special someone
I'’ve been trying to meet
"for quite some time.
"Her name is Rosa.
"We both live in Orlando,
but we'’ve never met.
"I first saw Rosa almost
two years ago.
"I was like, '’Wow.
This girl'’s gorgeous.'’
"I messaged her
a bunch of times,
"but I didn'’t get a response
until last year.
We finally started texting
and calling now every day."
- ♪ Would you be my lover?
♪ My lover
♪ My lover
- "When we first met,
she was living in Connecticut,
"so I told Rosa to hurry up
and move to Orlando ASAP.
"In February,
she actually got a transfer.
"We started to make plans
to meet
"but then Rosa started
to give me the runaround.
"She straight-up stood me up
a couple of times.
"I feel like
she'’s hiding something.
"Why else would it be
such an obstacle course
"to see each other?
"Rosa is special to me.
"No other girl has made me
feel like she has.
"I still love her, and I think
she might be the one.
"I need your help.
Sincerely, Danny."
- He saw this girl,
he really pursued her--
- Even though he knows
there have been some red flags,
and it'’s ridiculous that they'’ve
been in the same city
for a period of time
and haven'’t met up,
so he--he knows something'’s up,
but not willing to let it go.
- Let'’s--let'’s get him
on the horn.
- Let'’s get him.
[line trilling]
Hey!
- Danny!
¿Cómo estás?
- Muy bien. Muy bien.
¿Y tú?
- Estamos bien.
- Before we get into
the whole thing with Rosa,
like,
tell us a little bit more
about you.
- Well, I'’m originally
from Puerto Rico.
I was born in the island
and then I relocated
to the central Florida area.
- Cool.
- So tell us the story.
- I met her online in 2014.
As soon as I saw her,
I fell in love with her.
I was like, "Wow.
She looks amazing.
She'’s hot."
And I wrote her a couple times,
but she never responded.
A year passed by
and I actually found her
in another page,
so I messaged her again.
A month later,
I find a third page
and I wrote her
and she finally responded.
We exchanged numbers.
- Hold on a second.
So you saw three different pages
for the same girl
with the same name?
- Yeah.
That'’s weird.
- Yeah, weird.
Why would you have
so many pages, you know?
But yeah,
she finally responded.
We started talking.
- Is she Puerto Rican?
- Yes, she'’s Puerto Rican.
She spoke to me in Spanish.
She definitely has the accent.
- What was she like?
What'’d you like about her?
How'’d you guys connect?
- What I really like about her is her personality.
She'’s a little feisty,
explosive.
Rosa'’s
a very good-looking girl,
and she would tell me that
a lot of the girlfriends
of the coworkers
would get jealous of her.
One of the girls
would say something
and she would actually
beat them up.
[tense music]
- Hmm.
- Weird.
- Did she get arrested?
I mean, did she get in trouble?
- She actually got arrested,
you know,
and I don'’t judge a book
by its cover.
Sometimes you gotta
open up the book and read it
and, you know,
I really care for her
and, you know,
I want to help her.
You know, I think I can
make her a better person.
We got really close.
As we spoke,
we got to know each other.
We were making plans.
- Okay, how did you not meet up
once she moved down to Orlando?
- [sighs]
Well, that'’s been the dilemma.
She kept on giving me
the runaround of, like,
with her job, she'’s working
all these long hours.
- I mean,
I'’m sure you'’ve considered
that she might be lying to you,
right?
- Yeah, I'’ve had my doubts.
That'’s why I'’m reaching out
to you guys to help me.
- All right, well,
we want to help, so sit tight.
We'’ll come down there
and we'’ll see if we can
unravel this mystery.
- Great, I would love that.
- Hasta luego.
- [laughs]
- Hasta luego.
- Later.
- Danny boy.
[both sigh]
Poor Danny.
- Hey, well, it'’s not a season
of "Catfish"
without an episode in Orlando,
so let'’s do it.
- All right.
- ♪ And all we have is love
- Getting on the plane.
- ♪ To bring us together
tonight ♪
[upbeat music]
♪ It'’s gonna be all right ♪
♪
- Sunny Orlando.
- Here we are.
Danny needs our help-y.
- ♪ It'’s gonna be all right ♪
- Here it is.
- ♪ It'’s gonna be all right ♪
- Come on.
[knocks on door]
♪
- Hello!
- Hey!
We gotta mic you up.
- This is how the sausage
is made, you know?
- Yeah.
Test, test, test.
Is this working?
Testing, testing.
[laughter]
- All right.
Okay, so you fell in love
with this super-hot girl, Rosa,
and you'’re still
in love with her
despite all the red flags
and weird things.
- Yeah, I mean,
I'’ve been trying to meet her
for quite some time now.
We really connected.
We would talk every day.
I fell in love with her, like,
bam, at first sight.
I want to find someone
that I can settle with
and we plan to have a family.
We planned on
let'’s have a baby.
We were making plans like that,
you know,
and it all seemed perfect.
You know,
she made the effort
of moving down
from Connecticut.
- Did she sell you that she was
moving down here for you?
- Yes, she actually
moved down for me.
Like, she, you know, she said
she wanted to meet me,
but she stood me up
a couple of times.
She just got to Orlando
and one of the messages
that I received was that
she had gotten arrested
down here.
She already beat up
another girl.
Same story.
One of the coworker'’s
girlfriends got jealous of her.
The girl spat on Rosa'’s face
and Rosa just started
beat her down, man.
She actually slammed her face
in the floor and everything.
- She sla--wait.
She slammed a girl'’s face
into the floor?
- Into the floor, yes.
I was like, what are you doing?
You gotta control your temper.
Made me wake up a little bit.
Do I want to pursue this?
Do I want to continue?
But everybody has
a different life, you know,
and she hasn'’t had it good.
She tells me that
she got molested
when she was a child.
The way I see things,
sometimes you have--
you need to have some kind
of relationship with God
just to bring up
your spirit, man.
You know,
to change the way you are,
you know,
just to be a loving person.
I suggested to her
to go to a church
to seek spiritual help.
Instead of just kind of,
like, pushing it away,
I feel that, you know,
I'’m someone that can save her.
- I want to see
what kind of texts
you guys are sending
back and forth,
what your relationship
looks like.
- Sure.
- All that good stuff.
- Let'’s take a look.
- So that'’s Rosa right there.
- Wow.
- Okay.
Yep, Rosa'’s hot.
- Very pretty.
Wow.
Are you kidding me?
- So you blame me
for sticking around?
- No, I don'’t.
[laughter]
That'’s when we first started.
"Hey, it'’s me, Danny."
You know,
we talk Spanglish, so...
- "Tú eres papi chulo."
I know what that means.
- Yeah.
- What does it mean?
- "Papi chulo"means
"sugar daddy."
[laughter]
- Yeah, okay, I mean, I get it.
Look, I get it.
- Can we see the three pages?
[tense music]
- This is the first page.
- Oh, wow.
1,700 friends.
In 2014,
you messaged this account
with a silly puppy-love emoji.
- Yeah.
She never responded to that.
- So let'’s look at
the second page.
- 100 friends.
- That'’s weird.
Seems like too few.
- You sent her the same emoji.
- Which of these accounts
were you talking to?
- The third one.
This one.
- On this one she only has
15 friends.
- Come--what?
- Oh, what?
- Come on.
That'’s really suspect.
- Yeah.
- You really like
these little dog emojis, huh?
- That'’s your move?
- You got that copy pasted?
- What'’s wrong with you?
That'’s the cutest thing.
- You little softie.
You'’re a sweetheart.
- Hey, papi.
- Aww, you like
the little puppy-dog emojis.
- I like dogs, yeah.
- That'’s so cute.
All right, all right,
you got game.
I mean, look, for me,
there is a small chance it could
be the girl in the pictures,
so I'’m willing to hang in
just for that.
And if not, at least we'’ll
figure out who that person is.
We'’ll do some research,
we'’ll see what we can find.
Sit tight.
We'’ll get to the bottom of this.
- Thank you, guys.
- All right.
- Appreciate it.
- See you tomorrow.
Mañana.
- All right.
Take care, man.
♪
- Oh, boy.
- He still is hoping
that it turns out to be
the hot girl,
but I don'’t think he'’s even
thought far enough
to think about, "Well, even if
she is the hot girl,
"she still is the same
troublesome, dramatic person,
and do I want to even be
with that person?"
I think he just still
wants to smash.
- Right.
- And then he'’ll think about
all these things.
- He'’s gonna have to come
to grips with reality
sooner or later.
[electronic music]
- Okay.
Bam.
The Dandelion.
♪
- [sniffing]
I smell a catfish.
♪
I will break this case today.
I will break this case today.
- In fact, today I think
Max and I should see
who can figure this out first.
- I think we all know.
- Oh, you think you can crack
this case faster than me?
- I think I have a reputation
for being better
at the investigation.
I think I--
- Let'’s take a poll.
Let'’s do a Twitter poll
right now.
- All right.
- "Catfish" quiz.
I shouldn'’t say
"'’Catfish'’ quiz,"
I should say fishing poll.
- Who'’s the better
Internet detective?
- I'’m tweeting it.
Oh, boy.
Everybody on the crew
better be voting.
- I gotta retweet it right now.
- Come on, I wanna see who has--
oh, oh, we got votes.
No way.
68 votes.
It'’s a dead tie.
[laughter]
That'’s crazy.
All right.
- We got Danny and Rosa.
- What is that?
A little rose?
- Yep.
- Danny from Puerto Rico
sees a beautiful young lady.
They start chatting,
hit it off.
She lives in Connecticut but she
is having a hard time up there.
Actually does move to Orlando.
Looking like
they'’re gonna meet up
and this is gonna work out.
But then the problems start.
She can'’t meet up with him.
- She beats people up.
- She got arrested.
- She has a history of violence.
- But Danny'’s very captivated
by both her beauty and her...
- Mystery.
- Mystery.
We got an email
from our guy here.
"Hey, Nev and Max.
"Here'’s everything I know
about Rosa.
"Her current phone number,
and I also attached
some of the pics she sent me."
- So should we start
with the pictures?
- Yeah, let'’s find out
who this girl really is.
- All right,
is this picture gonna come up?
- Is it gonna be easy?
[inhales sharply]
- Oh!
- Wait.
- No.
- Nothing.
One of these has got to be
a hit.
- No.
- What?
- Nothing.
- Come on!
- Come on.
Nope!
- This one'’s good.
- I feel good about this one.
both: Oh!
- I told you
I felt good about it!
- We got something.
- I'’m such a good investigator!
- Here she is.
Wow, there'’s a lot of photos.
- What'’s her name?
- Hold on a second.
What'’s this?
Natalie.
- Let'’s look on here.
- God, I hope this is her.
- Yep!
We got her, we got her,
we got her.
Yeah!
both: Whoo!
- I got it.
- No you didn'’t.
- [laughs]
250 posts.
13,000 followers.
- So we found the mask.
- Right.
- The pictures of Rosa are
actually of this girl Natalie.
But then the question is
who is the real Rosa?
- All right.
Let'’s search
for her phone number.
- Here we go.
Oh.
Yenny.
- Is that just--
- It'’s Jenny.
- Jenny, right.
- It'’s Jenny.
All right, in Connecticut.
- Oy, yoi, yoi.
Let'’s sign into his Facebook
and cross reference
to see if there'’s
any connection.
- This is what makes you such
a good investigator, huh?
- [laughs]
- All right.
- Okay, so let'’s sign in.
We are in.
- We are inside Danny'’s profile.
- All right,
so let'’s search Yenny [bleep].
- Oh.
- No.
Okay.
Let'’s go to the fake pages
for Rosa.
Let'’s go to the friends.
- So let'’s see
who the friends are.
Bran--Brandy!
She was on our show!
- What?
- She was on "Catfish ."
- Wait a second.
- She was the catfish.
- Yeah, I remember.
- Why is Brandy
friends with her?
We know her!
That could be Rosa.
- That'’s crazy.
[dramatic music]
[electronic music]
- Oh.
- Brandy?
She was on our show!
- What?
[dramatic music]
- Why is Brandy
friends with her?
We know her!
She was on "Catfish"!
- Wait a second.
- She was the catfish.
I went to meet her in,
like, Dallas.
- Yeah, I remember.
- Why do you have
a profile online
that'’s of someone else entirely?
- I guess I just didn'’t want
to be myself anymore.
♪
- Wait a second.
I mean, that'’s crazy
that a previous catfish
is friends
with a current catfish.
- That could be Rosa.
- Who knows.
Maybe she'’s consulting.
- Let'’s reach out to her.
- Yeah, still have her number.
[phone line trilling]
- Hello, Brandy?
- Hey, it'’s been a long time.
It'’s Nev and Max.
- Hey, Brandy.
- The reason we'’re calling,
it'’s kind of crazy,
but we'’re working on
an episode right now.
We'’re looking up this person
who we believe to be a catfish
and on one of their pages...
- Okay.
- You'’re friends with this girl
Rosa [bleep].
- She only has 15 friends,
this girl,
and you'’re one of them.
- Okay.
♪
Are you still in, uh...
both: Texas?
- Right.
- You know,
if anything occurs to you,
let us know.
- Okay, thanks.
[phone beeping]
I don'’t know.
I think it'’s very suspicious
that of the 15 friends
on Rosa'’s profiles,
one of them is
a former catfish.
- Sure, but she lives in Dallas.
- Well, so she says.
You know, once a catfish,
always a catfish.
♪
- Maybe.
It is strange.
- All right, so look,
while we have some answers,
what we mostly have
are questions.
- I think all we can do is go
through these names with him
and see if any of them
spark something for him.
- All right.
Let'’s just check
the Twitter poll
now that the investigation'’s
over and see who came in on top.
Ugh, a dead tie.
- Wow.
- 8,000 votes.
- 8,000 votes and we'’re 50/50?
How can that be?
- We'’re a good team.
- That settles it.
- ♪ The streets about to swim
in the heat ♪
♪ And we were sweating through the sheets ♪
♪ Dreaming backwards
of a dead-beat ♪
♪ Low-decay slow parade
♪ In 2/4 time
[thunder rumbles]
- Yes.
- Whoa.
Lightning on the horizon.
[percussive music]
[knocking]
Hello!
- Hey.
- What'’s going on, man?
How you doing?
- All right,
we did some research.
- I'’m ready already.
Let'’s see what you guys
came up with.
- All right, we downloaded
all the pictures you sent...
- Okay.
- And we started searching them.
And on this one...
- This one.
- We got a hit.
- That'’s her.
- And the name at the top
says Natalie.
So we went to that page.
- And we found this.
- That'’s crazy, man.
On the other pages, it'’s mostly,
like, men commenting.
both: Right.
- And these are women.
- And then this page
is kinda like...
- Right.
People who know her.
- So Rosa'’s been stealing
all these pictures basically.
- It appears that way.
- [groans]
[dramatic music]
This is, like,
the weirdest thing
that'’s ever happened to me.
Like, I never had anybody,
like, send me fake pictures or--
- And it looks like
that'’s what happened.
- So we know this girl
is a liar.
We still need to figure out
who you'’re really talking to.
Her current phone number
came back under Yenny [bleep].
- That'’s weird.
- Is that a name that--
- You know that name?
- So we went back through
Rosa'’s Facebook pages,
all three of them,
and this one,
we went to her friends
and they'’re mostly guys
with the exception
of Brandy [bleep].
This girl was a catfish
on our show a couple years ago.
- Okay.
- What'’s interesting
about Brandy
is that she was talking to a guy
who was in Jacksonville,
Florida.
So her episode had something
to do with Florida.
She had a kind of
somewhat dramatic past.
Not too different
from Rosa, right?
Rosa, she'’s gotten in a lot
of fights,
she was molested
as a child.
- So she says.
- This is weird.
Too weird.
- This could just be
a crazy coincidence,
but it'’s definitely
very interesting.
I'’m not ruling out
that it could be Brandy.
Anybody could be Rosa
at this point.
- The only thing
that we do know for sure
is that the phone number
that you'’re communicating
to her through
is connecting you to her.
♪
- In the last few weeks,
you'’ve talked to "Rosa"
on the phone and via text.
- Yeah.
- I can call that number.
I can explain we discovered
she'’s not
the girl in the pictures.
He knows you'’re fake.
He still wants to meet you.
Where are you and can we come?
That'’s our last real option.
- Okay.
- All right,
let'’s give her a call.
Ready?
- I'’m ready.
[phone line trilling]
[tense music]
♪
- Hello, is this Rosa?
My name is Nev
from the TV show "Catfish,"
and we were called
by your friend Danny
to help him--yeah.
We did a little bit of research
and we discovered that
the girl in the pictures
that you'’ve been sending Danny
is somebody else.
You know, we know that
that girl'’s name is Natalie.
- What?
- And...
- Well, I'’m not calling you--
I'’m not--
- I'’m not calling you a liar.
I'’m just trying to figure out
if there'’s any way
that we can meet up with you.
[dramatic music]
♪
You know that Danny
cares about you, right?
I mean, you guys have been
talking for a while.
- I guess.
- And I assume that you must
have some feelings
for him as well.
Is that--is that accurate?
- I think you know
that meeting up with Danny
is the right thing to do.
- Are you in Florida?
- Okay.
- More importantly,
do you really want to meet him?
[thunder cracks]
- [no audible dialogue]
- Okay.
If you tell him the truth
and you'’re honest with him,
and...
[thunder cracks]
- All right.
Text me your address
when you get a chance
and we'’ll see you tomorrow.
[phone beeping]
[somber music]
- [scoffs]
- Jeez.
- This is, like,
the craziest thing, for real.
- Sounds like she'’s been
in Connecticut the whole time.
- Yeah, I don'’t know
if she ever came down here.
- This sucks, man.
I feel like...
I feel like crap now.
You know?
- We know she'’s
a little aggressive
and possibly dangerous,
willing to do things--
or at least says she'’s willing
to do things that are not cool.
Is finding out who she is
worth the risk
of upsetting her?
- [sighs]
You know,
obviously she'’s interested in me
in some kind of way, you know?
I want to find out
who it is at least.
- Well, it looks like
we'’re going to Connecticut.
Pack a bag,
collect your thoughts,
we'’ll leave first thing
in the morning.
We'’ll get up there
and hopefully
we'’ll actually meet her.
- All right.
Sounds like a plan.
[thunder cracking]
♪
- There'’s a storm a-coming.
[both laugh]
- Hey.
- Yo!
- What'’s going on?
- ¿Qué pasa?
- You guys ready to go?
I got to travel to Connecticut
to supposedly go meet Rosa.
This girl been lying to me
this whole time.
[upbeat music]
- How you feeling this morning?
- A little nervous.
- You didn'’t hear
from Rosa, did you?
- I haven'’t heard
from Rosa at all.
We'’re about to find out
who is doing this,
who'’s playing with me,
and we'’re gonna get
to the bottom of this.
♪
- Let'’s do it.
- ♪ You gotta change
♪ Your mind...
- Thank you.
- ♪ The summertime
♪ Is killing me
♪ I wait
♪ I wait to die
♪ When we go
[upbeat rock music]
♪
[electronic beep]
♪
- Whoo!
Another flight down.
New airport.
New city.
Connecticut, baby, I am in you.
♪
- You ready?
- I'’m ready.
- What does it feel like?
- [sighs]
I'’m a little nervous.
- We'’re pretty close.
It'’s, like,
right around the corner I think.
One of these houses in here.
[tense music]
Yeah, that'’s the house.
All right, this is it.
There'’s no turning back.
- All right.
[sighs]
- So I think we should do it.
- Let'’s do it.
- Let'’s go.
♪
- [sighs]
This is crazy, man.
- You guys wait here
in the shade.
I'’ll knock on the door.
♪
[knocking]
- How you feeling?
- I'’m feeling, like--
this is, like, so weird, bro.
This is, like,
killing me right now.
Like, for real.
♪
- Hello.
♪
- Hey.
♪
- I'’m gonna stick my head
for a second.
♪
- What'’s he doing?
- I'’m sure you must be
pretty nervous.
[sobbing]
- It'’s all right, it'’s okay.
- [sobbing]
- Hey, maybe just--
- [sobbing]
- Take a second.
I'’m assuming you'’re Rosa.
- Yep.
- [sighs]
This is, like, so weird, bro.
- Just be yourself,
be honest,
say whatever it is that
you feel comfortable saying.
Okay?
- [sighs]
[sniffles]
[suspenseful music]
♪
- Oh, my God, bro.
- I'’ll say something?
- Okay.
- I'’ll--I'’ll start
the conversation.
♪
This is Jose.
As I understand,
Jose has been Rosa.
- Yep.
- This is just crazy, man.
I don--
What are you doing, man?
- I didn'’t mean for this
to happen like this.
- Aren'’t you ashamed
of yourself, bro?
- I am ashamed of myself.
- Yeah.
- I am, and I'’m not gonna lie.
- What is this, man?
Why would you do something
like that?
- I never meant--you know, I
never meant to hurt nobody else.
I was trying to hurt the person
in the picture.
- The girl in the picture?
Why?
Do you know her?
- Yeah.
Natalie.
- So you know Natalie.
- I went to school with her.
- In Florida?
- I was trying to get her
to feel the pain that I felt.
[somber music]
I used to be bullied in school,
you know?
By her and obviously
a group of other people.
- So you created the account
to take revenge on her?
- Basically, yeah.
♪
- You made that account
in high school?
- I was in high school.
I was in 9th grade.
- And how old are you now?
- You know, I'’m 26 now.
- That was a long time ago.
- That was a long time ago.
- Whatever you have against
this girl, bro,
what does that
have to do with me?
[tense music]
♪
You don'’t play with people
like that.
You don'’t--you don'’t do that
to people.
I'’m over here making plans.
I'’m, like, all into this girl.
What--what were
you actually planning
on getting out of this?
Eventually we'’re gonna
find out the truth, you know.
This is just crazy, man.
It'’s embarrassing, actually.
You know?
- It is embarrassing.
You know, like, I'’m sorry.
Like, I am.
- You need some help.
You need to go to church.
You need to get involved.
You need to speak to someone.
You can'’t just lock yourself
in there
and make believe you'’re a woman.
If you like men,
holla at a dude that likes men.
♪
It'’s as simple as that, man.
♪
What you did was wrong.
- And I admit it.
What I did--
- And I have nothing
to say to you, man.
This is an embarrassment,
for real.
I'’m done here.
[dramatic music]
♪
- [crying softly]
- This dude is sick, bro.
- What you did was wrong.
- And I admit it.
What I did--
- And I have nothing
to say to you, man.
This is an embarrassment,
for real.
I'’m done here.
[man vocalizing]
[light electronic music]
♪
[man vocalizing]
- [crying softly]
[man vocalizing]
- For him,
it might not seem that I care,
but I really do.
Like, I really do,
and I feel bad about myself
every single day that I wake up.
- ♪ So I'’m not a forest ♪
♪ Even if I thought I was one
with you... ♪
- [sighs]
This is [bleep] crazy.
- ♪ '’Cause you'’re not an angel
even if you'’re close ♪
♪
- [sighs]
This is so embarrassing
it'’s not even funny.
- I didn'’t mean to hurt him,
you know,
but I was going through so much at home,
and the only reason that I did
continue talking to Danny--
like, I wanted to stop at first,
you know,
but he was the type of person
that he sat there, you know,
and he listened.
♪
He listened
and actually gave me advice
and never tried to judge me.
[sniffles]
Obviously, he was a good person,
you know.
Very religious, you know,
and those words of inspiration
that he used to tell me,
you know--
you know, really helped too.
[light instrumental music]
Everything that I said that,
you know,
that Rosa was going through,
I really went through it,
you know, as me.
That'’s what I'’m saying,
you know?
I told Danny, you know,
that Rosa was sexually abused.
I mean, it happened to me.
I was in pain.
I--to this day,
I'’m still in pain.
I just tried to find an escape.
I tried to find an escape
through drugs.
I used to do drugs heavy,
you know.
The only way that I stopped
doing drugs--I got locked up.
♪
And that was the only thing
that was helping me.
I felt like being somebody else,
being somebody that you'’re not,
being somebody that you can
actually talk to somebody
and they can'’t judge you
on your past
because they don'’t know nothing
about your past.
- All right, well, look.
This is a distinctive moment
for you.
'’Cause right now,
when you look back at your life,
a lot of it'’s
the stuff that wasn'’t great.
It'’s getting bullied
in high school,
it'’s getting addicted to drugs,
it'’s going to jail.
It'’s not the best past,
and while it'’s not
gonna go away,
starting now,
you can do it
a little differently.
♪
Tomorrow, if you'’re up for it,
we can hopefully help you
start that process of healing
and turn that page
and leave volume one
of the life of Jose
somewhere else
and start, you know, volume two.
- Okay.
Thank you.
- It was nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you guys.
Like, thank you, guys, for real.
- All right.
We'’ll check in with you later.
- Mm-hmm.
♪
- [groans]
- Oh, man.
- Well, that was probably more than you bargained for.
- Uh, yeah.
I just kinda, like,
want to disappear from the world
for a couple of days.
- Yeah, I mean,
I know it'’s not fair
because this is just as much
your experience as it is his,
but I think it'’s pretty obvious
that this guy'’s
had it pretty rough.
- You have every right
to be mad
and to not want to do
anything more for this guy,
but if you really wanted
to be a hero
and go beyond...
- [scoffs]
- The one thing you could
give him
is to let him know
this is not something
you'’re gonna hold against him
for the rest of your life,
and that might lighten
his burden a little more.
♪
- [sighs]
[dramatic music]
♪
[phone line trills]
[light instrumental music]
- Hello.
Jose, it'’s Nev and Max,
and we'’re in the car
with Danny.
We thought it might be good
for us to get back together
like we discussed
and talk a little bit more.
♪
Probably be there
in 10, 15 minutes.
- All right, see you soon.
♪
- ♪ Yeah
♪ It'’s under your skin ♪
♪ Crawling out
♪
♪ Overthinking
♪ What you found
♪
♪ Unrequited
♪ Feel it now
- All right, so this is it.
- This is it.
[dramatic music]
♪
[knocking]
♪
Hello.
- You can come in.
♪
- How you doing?
- Good to see you.
♪
- How'’d you feel
after we left yesterday?
- It--it was kind of confusing.
- Yeah.
Danny had a lot of emotions
that he brought.
You had a lot that you brought.
You guys didn'’t really get
a chance to, like, communicate
in any kind of meaningful way,
so that was partly what we were
hoping we could do today.
♪
- So you were Rosa'’s voice.
♪
- I felt like that was
pretty convincing.
You--
- I couldn'’t tell, yeah.
- Right.
Is that voice something
that you'’ve always
been good at doing?
- I used to do acting
in high school,
but that voice,
like, I never tried it before.
- Can we hear the voice
right now?
- [as Rosa] I mean,
I don'’t know what'’s going on.
You know, a lot of things
been changing in my life.
- Wow.
- Yeah, I guess--
- That'’s good.
- Yeah.
[low laughter]
It'’s pretty good.
- You know, like,
I'’m embarrassed about
the whole situation right now.
Really, like, I can'’t even sleep
at night, you know,
thinking about all this stuff,
all the consequences.
You know, it was bringing me
down every day.
You know, every time
that I thought about it,
you know, every time that,
you know, that I was like,
"Okay, I wanna say something,"
but at the same time I'’m scared.
I didn'’t know how to stop.
- You did Danny wrong.
- I did.
- But here he is.
He could'’ve not
come back here today.
He could'’ve just chosen to be
angry and just say, "That'’s it.
I don'’t wanna ever see this
person again," but here he is.
[light instrumental music]
- I'’m gonna give you
some advice, man.
You know, first of all,
erase those pages.
You need to let go
of those demons
that are kinda,
like, from the past.
Stop worrying about Natalie,
people that bullied you.
You need to focus on you.
Go to church.
Once you start having
a relationship with God,
that'’s when God starts
blessing you.
Would it be okay
if I pray for you?
- [softly]
Yeah.
- Okay?
I'’m gonna do a quick prayer
in Spanish.
That'’s where I feel
more comfortable.
So close your eyes, man.
All right?
♪
[speaking Spanish]
- [softly]
Amen.
Thank you.
- [speaking Spanish]
- [speaks Spanish]
- Okay?
You'’re gonna be all right, man.
- Thank you.
Okay?
You'’re gonna be all right.
[lifting music]
- That was really nice.
♪
- We'’re gonna leave now
and the cameras are
gonna go away,
and it'’ll be very easy
to go back
to exactly
how things were before,
so it'’ll be on you
to kind of--
- I am--I am telling you
I'’m gonna do everything,
especially all the advice
that you gave me.
- Good.
- Use this experience
to kind of...
- Move on.
- Yeah.
- Yep.
I'’m ready.
- Good.
- Great.
- All right.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
♪
- Good-bye, Jose.
It'’s a new day, man.
Everything'’s gonna be
all right, all right?
- Okay.
♪
- That was a really beautiful
thing that you said in there.
♪
- Thank you.
- He probably thought the last person that would accept him
would be you,
and to say a prayer for him
I think means a lot.
- This is crazy, man,
but you know what?
I think this happened
for a reason.
This guy, you know,
he needed something like this.
I think he'’s gonna make
something out of it for him.
- For sure.
- Hopefully I can actually meet
the real Rosa.
"Natalie."
[laughs]
- Try sending her
your puppy emoji.
[laughter]
[upbeat music]
[line trilling]
- Hey!
- Hey, Danny.
- Hey, what'’s going on, man?
- How you doing?
- I'’m doing good, man.
I'’m doing good.
- Are you dating anyone
seriously right now?
- Nothing serious right now.
You know,
I been dating here and there.
- Do you ever talk to Jose?
- You know, a couple of weeks
after the show,
I started actually texting him some positive stuff.
I was like,
"You know what, man?
"Instead of kind of,
like, avoiding him,
this dude needs help.
Let me do what I can,"
but lately, I haven'’t been
in contact, so...
- What about Natalie?
- [laughs]
Uh, you know,
I never contacted her.
You know, it'’s just--I just
been focusing on myself, man.
So, thank you for everything.- All right.
- Thanks, Danny.
Good talking to you, man.
- Take care.
God bless, you guys.
- All right, we'’ll see you soon.
- Later, bro.
[line trilling]
- Hola!
- Hey!
- Hey, how you doing?
- Wow, look at this guy.
- Wow, look at--
you'’re all cleaned up.
- Yeah, nice haircut.
- Yeah.
- Oh, thank you, thank you,
thank you.
- You look good.
- I mean, what--
- You look like
you lost some weight too.
- Yeah.
- I been working out.
- What?
- No way!
- Yep, you guys helped me
a lot.
- Tell us everything.
- Well, I actually
got my own place now.
Been very exciting, you know?
Living here is great.
I'’m working for
a new company now.
I really like it.
I'’m still doing door-to-door.- Sales?
- Sales.
I love sales.
Thank you, ma'’am.
Have a great day.
Thank you.
- You'’re welcome.
- That'’s what I like to do.
That'’s me,
and I been going to church.
- Really?
How'’s that been going?
- When I go there,
you know, I feel more peaceful. I feel comfort.
I feel like
that'’s where I belong.
- That'’s nice.
Have you made any friends
through the church?
- I have made
a couple of friends.
I'’m kind of talking
to somebody right now.
- That was my next question.
Who--who are you
kind of talking to?
- I'’m not gonna put his name
out there or nothing like that.
- Someone you met
on the Internet?
- No, I did not meet
on the Internet.
It was actually
one of the customers that I met
knocking on the door.
- Hey, all right.
Maybe you didn'’t make a sale,
but you definitely got a tip.
- No, I did make a sale.
- Oh, you did make a sale?
Oh, great.
- Yeah.
- Have you been talking
to Danny at all?
- Danny was a great person,
but Danny'’s somebody
that I wanna leave in the past.
Right now I'’m very happy.
I'’m closer to my family now,
and it'’s just amazing
waking up every morning
and just knowing
that you don'’t have
to make no lies up for the day.
You don'’t have
to live a double life.
- What a transformation.
- I'’m happy.
A total transformation.
- Yeah, it'’s like night and day.
- Thank you.
- These are the best kind
of check-ins
that we can ask for.
- Thank you very much.
- Enjoy the rest of your Sunday.
Good luck with everything.
Keep it going.
- Okay, thank you, guys.
- All right, see you, Jose.
- All right, bye, Jose.
- See you!
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00:41:17.
who this girl really is.
- Let'’s see who the friends are.
Bran--Brandy!
She was on "Catfish."
- Wait a second.
That'’s crazy.
- I'’m buggin'’ out right now
for real.
- You guys wait here.
I'’ll knock on the door.
[knocking]
[dramatic music]
Hello.
- Hello.
[sobbing]
- I'’ll come in.
It'’s okay.
- [continues sobbing]
[intense music]
[upbeat electronic music]
- Hey!
- Hey!
- So we are now in season six
of "Catfish."
We'’ve made it this far.
Let'’s come up with a handshake
or something.
- I don'’t know.
I just--
- Okay.
- Boom.
- Boom.
And then foreheads touch.
[laughter]
Come on.
Touch foreheads.
Touch foreheads.
- Mm.
- There it is.
Let'’s do it.
We got an email, Max.
This is a love S.O.S.
"Dear Nev and Max,
my name is Danny
"and I have a special someone
I'’ve been trying to meet
"for quite some time.
"Her name is Rosa.
"We both live in Orlando,
but we'’ve never met.
"I first saw Rosa almost
two years ago.
"I was like, '’Wow.
This girl'’s gorgeous.'’
"I messaged her
a bunch of times,
"but I didn'’t get a response
until last year.
We finally started texting
and calling now every day."
- ♪ Would you be my lover?
♪ My lover
♪ My lover
- "When we first met,
she was living in Connecticut,
"so I told Rosa to hurry up
and move to Orlando ASAP.
"In February,
she actually got a transfer.
"We started to make plans
to meet
"but then Rosa started
to give me the runaround.
"She straight-up stood me up
a couple of times.
"I feel like
she'’s hiding something.
"Why else would it be
such an obstacle course
"to see each other?
"Rosa is special to me.
"No other girl has made me
feel like she has.
"I still love her, and I think
she might be the one.
"I need your help.
Sincerely, Danny."
- He saw this girl,
he really pursued her--
- Even though he knows
there have been some red flags,
and it'’s ridiculous that they'’ve
been in the same city
for a period of time
and haven'’t met up,
so he--he knows something'’s up,
but not willing to let it go.
- Let'’s--let'’s get him
on the horn.
- Let'’s get him.
[line trilling]
Hey!
- Danny!
¿Cómo estás?
- Muy bien. Muy bien.
¿Y tú?
- Estamos bien.
- Before we get into
the whole thing with Rosa,
like,
tell us a little bit more
about you.
- Well, I'’m originally
from Puerto Rico.
I was born in the island
and then I relocated
to the central Florida area.
- Cool.
- So tell us the story.
- I met her online in 2014.
As soon as I saw her,
I fell in love with her.
I was like, "Wow.
She looks amazing.
She'’s hot."
And I wrote her a couple times,
but she never responded.
A year passed by
and I actually found her
in another page,
so I messaged her again.
A month later,
I find a third page
and I wrote her
and she finally responded.
We exchanged numbers.
- Hold on a second.
So you saw three different pages
for the same girl
with the same name?
- Yeah.
That'’s weird.
- Yeah, weird.
Why would you have
so many pages, you know?
But yeah,
she finally responded.
We started talking.
- Is she Puerto Rican?
- Yes, she'’s Puerto Rican.
She spoke to me in Spanish.
She definitely has the accent.
- What was she like?
What'’d you like about her?
How'’d you guys connect?
- What I really like about her is her personality.
She'’s a little feisty,
explosive.
Rosa'’s
a very good-looking girl,
and she would tell me that
a lot of the girlfriends
of the coworkers
would get jealous of her.
One of the girls
would say something
and she would actually
beat them up.
[tense music]
- Hmm.
- Weird.
- Did she get arrested?
I mean, did she get in trouble?
- She actually got arrested,
you know,
and I don'’t judge a book
by its cover.
Sometimes you gotta
open up the book and read it
and, you know,
I really care for her
and, you know,
I want to help her.
You know, I think I can
make her a better person.
We got really close.
As we spoke,
we got to know each other.
We were making plans.
- Okay, how did you not meet up
once she moved down to Orlando?
- [sighs]
Well, that'’s been the dilemma.
She kept on giving me
the runaround of, like,
with her job, she'’s working
all these long hours.
- I mean,
I'’m sure you'’ve considered
that she might be lying to you,
right?
- Yeah, I'’ve had my doubts.
That'’s why I'’m reaching out
to you guys to help me.
- All right, well,
we want to help, so sit tight.
We'’ll come down there
and we'’ll see if we can
unravel this mystery.
- Great, I would love that.
- Hasta luego.
- [laughs]
- Hasta luego.
- Later.
- Danny boy.
[both sigh]
Poor Danny.
- Hey, well, it'’s not a season
of "Catfish"
without an episode in Orlando,
so let'’s do it.
- All right.
- ♪ And all we have is love
- Getting on the plane.
- ♪ To bring us together
tonight ♪
[upbeat music]
♪ It'’s gonna be all right ♪
♪
- Sunny Orlando.
- Here we are.
Danny needs our help-y.
- ♪ It'’s gonna be all right ♪
- Here it is.
- ♪ It'’s gonna be all right ♪
- Come on.
[knocks on door]
♪
- Hello!
- Hey!
We gotta mic you up.
- This is how the sausage
is made, you know?
- Yeah.
Test, test, test.
Is this working?
Testing, testing.
[laughter]
- All right.
Okay, so you fell in love
with this super-hot girl, Rosa,
and you'’re still
in love with her
despite all the red flags
and weird things.
- Yeah, I mean,
I'’ve been trying to meet her
for quite some time now.
We really connected.
We would talk every day.
I fell in love with her, like,
bam, at first sight.
I want to find someone
that I can settle with
and we plan to have a family.
We planned on
let'’s have a baby.
We were making plans like that,
you know,
and it all seemed perfect.
You know,
she made the effort
of moving down
from Connecticut.
- Did she sell you that she was
moving down here for you?
- Yes, she actually
moved down for me.
Like, she, you know, she said
she wanted to meet me,
but she stood me up
a couple of times.
She just got to Orlando
and one of the messages
that I received was that
she had gotten arrested
down here.
She already beat up
another girl.
Same story.
One of the coworker'’s
girlfriends got jealous of her.
The girl spat on Rosa'’s face
and Rosa just started
beat her down, man.
She actually slammed her face
in the floor and everything.
- She sla--wait.
She slammed a girl'’s face
into the floor?
- Into the floor, yes.
I was like, what are you doing?
You gotta control your temper.
Made me wake up a little bit.
Do I want to pursue this?
Do I want to continue?
But everybody has
a different life, you know,
and she hasn'’t had it good.
She tells me that
she got molested
when she was a child.
The way I see things,
sometimes you have--
you need to have some kind
of relationship with God
just to bring up
your spirit, man.
You know,
to change the way you are,
you know,
just to be a loving person.
I suggested to her
to go to a church
to seek spiritual help.
Instead of just kind of,
like, pushing it away,
I feel that, you know,
I'’m someone that can save her.
- I want to see
what kind of texts
you guys are sending
back and forth,
what your relationship
looks like.
- Sure.
- All that good stuff.
- Let'’s take a look.
- So that'’s Rosa right there.
- Wow.
- Okay.
Yep, Rosa'’s hot.
- Very pretty.
Wow.
Are you kidding me?
- So you blame me
for sticking around?
- No, I don'’t.
[laughter]
That'’s when we first started.
"Hey, it'’s me, Danny."
You know,
we talk Spanglish, so...
- "Tú eres papi chulo."
I know what that means.
- Yeah.
- What does it mean?
- "Papi chulo"means
"sugar daddy."
[laughter]
- Yeah, okay, I mean, I get it.
Look, I get it.
- Can we see the three pages?
[tense music]
- This is the first page.
- Oh, wow.
1,700 friends.
In 2014,
you messaged this account
with a silly puppy-love emoji.
- Yeah.
She never responded to that.
- So let'’s look at
the second page.
- 100 friends.
- That'’s weird.
Seems like too few.
- You sent her the same emoji.
- Which of these accounts
were you talking to?
- The third one.
This one.
- On this one she only has
15 friends.
- Come--what?
- Oh, what?
- Come on.
That'’s really suspect.
- Yeah.
- You really like
these little dog emojis, huh?
- That'’s your move?
- You got that copy pasted?
- What'’s wrong with you?
That'’s the cutest thing.
- You little softie.
You'’re a sweetheart.
- Hey, papi.
- Aww, you like
the little puppy-dog emojis.
- I like dogs, yeah.
- That'’s so cute.
All right, all right,
you got game.
I mean, look, for me,
there is a small chance it could
be the girl in the pictures,
so I'’m willing to hang in
just for that.
And if not, at least we'’ll
figure out who that person is.
We'’ll do some research,
we'’ll see what we can find.
Sit tight.
We'’ll get to the bottom of this.
- Thank you, guys.
- All right.
- Appreciate it.
- See you tomorrow.
Mañana.
- All right.
Take care, man.
♪
- Oh, boy.
- He still is hoping
that it turns out to be
the hot girl,
but I don'’t think he'’s even
thought far enough
to think about, "Well, even if
she is the hot girl,
"she still is the same
troublesome, dramatic person,
and do I want to even be
with that person?"
I think he just still
wants to smash.
- Right.
- And then he'’ll think about
all these things.
- He'’s gonna have to come
to grips with reality
sooner or later.
[electronic music]
- Okay.
Bam.
The Dandelion.
♪
- [sniffing]
I smell a catfish.
♪
I will break this case today.
I will break this case today.
- In fact, today I think
Max and I should see
who can figure this out first.
- I think we all know.
- Oh, you think you can crack
this case faster than me?
- I think I have a reputation
for being better
at the investigation.
I think I--
- Let'’s take a poll.
Let'’s do a Twitter poll
right now.
- All right.
- "Catfish" quiz.
I shouldn'’t say
"'’Catfish'’ quiz,"
I should say fishing poll.
- Who'’s the better
Internet detective?
- I'’m tweeting it.
Oh, boy.
Everybody on the crew
better be voting.
- I gotta retweet it right now.
- Come on, I wanna see who has--
oh, oh, we got votes.
No way.
68 votes.
It'’s a dead tie.
[laughter]
That'’s crazy.
All right.
- We got Danny and Rosa.
- What is that?
A little rose?
- Yep.
- Danny from Puerto Rico
sees a beautiful young lady.
They start chatting,
hit it off.
She lives in Connecticut but she
is having a hard time up there.
Actually does move to Orlando.
Looking like
they'’re gonna meet up
and this is gonna work out.
But then the problems start.
She can'’t meet up with him.
- She beats people up.
- She got arrested.
- She has a history of violence.
- But Danny'’s very captivated
by both her beauty and her...
- Mystery.
- Mystery.
We got an email
from our guy here.
"Hey, Nev and Max.
"Here'’s everything I know
about Rosa.
"Her current phone number,
and I also attached
some of the pics she sent me."
- So should we start
with the pictures?
- Yeah, let'’s find out
who this girl really is.
- All right,
is this picture gonna come up?
- Is it gonna be easy?
[inhales sharply]
- Oh!
- Wait.
- No.
- Nothing.
One of these has got to be
a hit.
- No.
- What?
- Nothing.
- Come on!
- Come on.
Nope!
- This one'’s good.
- I feel good about this one.
both: Oh!
- I told you
I felt good about it!
- We got something.
- I'’m such a good investigator!
- Here she is.
Wow, there'’s a lot of photos.
- What'’s her name?
- Hold on a second.
What'’s this?
Natalie.
- Let'’s look on here.
- God, I hope this is her.
- Yep!
We got her, we got her,
we got her.
Yeah!
both: Whoo!
- I got it.
- No you didn'’t.
- [laughs]
250 posts.
13,000 followers.
- So we found the mask.
- Right.
- The pictures of Rosa are
actually of this girl Natalie.
But then the question is
who is the real Rosa?
- All right.
Let'’s search
for her phone number.
- Here we go.
Oh.
Yenny.
- Is that just--
- It'’s Jenny.
- Jenny, right.
- It'’s Jenny.
All right, in Connecticut.
- Oy, yoi, yoi.
Let'’s sign into his Facebook
and cross reference
to see if there'’s
any connection.
- This is what makes you such
a good investigator, huh?
- [laughs]
- All right.
- Okay, so let'’s sign in.
We are in.
- We are inside Danny'’s profile.
- All right,
so let'’s search Yenny [bleep].
- Oh.
- No.
Okay.
Let'’s go to the fake pages
for Rosa.
Let'’s go to the friends.
- So let'’s see
who the friends are.
Bran--Brandy!
She was on our show!
- What?
- She was on "Catfish ."
- Wait a second.
- She was the catfish.
- Yeah, I remember.
- Why is Brandy
friends with her?
We know her!
That could be Rosa.
- That'’s crazy.
[dramatic music]
[electronic music]
- Oh.
- Brandy?
She was on our show!
- What?
[dramatic music]
- Why is Brandy
friends with her?
We know her!
She was on "Catfish"!
- Wait a second.
- She was the catfish.
I went to meet her in,
like, Dallas.
- Yeah, I remember.
- Why do you have
a profile online
that'’s of someone else entirely?
- I guess I just didn'’t want
to be myself anymore.
♪
- Wait a second.
I mean, that'’s crazy
that a previous catfish
is friends
with a current catfish.
- That could be Rosa.
- Who knows.
Maybe she'’s consulting.
- Let'’s reach out to her.
- Yeah, still have her number.
[phone line trilling]
- Hello, Brandy?
- Hey, it'’s been a long time.
It'’s Nev and Max.
- Hey, Brandy.
- The reason we'’re calling,
it'’s kind of crazy,
but we'’re working on
an episode right now.
We'’re looking up this person
who we believe to be a catfish
and on one of their pages...
- Okay.
- You'’re friends with this girl
Rosa [bleep].
- She only has 15 friends,
this girl,
and you'’re one of them.
- Okay.
♪
Are you still in, uh...
both: Texas?
- Right.
- You know,
if anything occurs to you,
let us know.
- Okay, thanks.
[phone beeping]
I don'’t know.
I think it'’s very suspicious
that of the 15 friends
on Rosa'’s profiles,
one of them is
a former catfish.
- Sure, but she lives in Dallas.
- Well, so she says.
You know, once a catfish,
always a catfish.
♪
- Maybe.
It is strange.
- All right, so look,
while we have some answers,
what we mostly have
are questions.
- I think all we can do is go
through these names with him
and see if any of them
spark something for him.
- All right.
Let'’s just check
the Twitter poll
now that the investigation'’s
over and see who came in on top.
Ugh, a dead tie.
- Wow.
- 8,000 votes.
- 8,000 votes and we'’re 50/50?
How can that be?
- We'’re a good team.
- That settles it.
- ♪ The streets about to swim
in the heat ♪
♪ And we were sweating through the sheets ♪
♪ Dreaming backwards
of a dead-beat ♪
♪ Low-decay slow parade
♪ In 2/4 time
[thunder rumbles]
- Yes.
- Whoa.
Lightning on the horizon.
[percussive music]
[knocking]
Hello!
- Hey.
- What'’s going on, man?
How you doing?
- All right,
we did some research.
- I'’m ready already.
Let'’s see what you guys
came up with.
- All right, we downloaded
all the pictures you sent...
- Okay.
- And we started searching them.
And on this one...
- This one.
- We got a hit.
- That'’s her.
- And the name at the top
says Natalie.
So we went to that page.
- And we found this.
- That'’s crazy, man.
On the other pages, it'’s mostly,
like, men commenting.
both: Right.
- And these are women.
- And then this page
is kinda like...
- Right.
People who know her.
- So Rosa'’s been stealing
all these pictures basically.
- It appears that way.
- [groans]
[dramatic music]
This is, like,
the weirdest thing
that'’s ever happened to me.
Like, I never had anybody,
like, send me fake pictures or--
- And it looks like
that'’s what happened.
- So we know this girl
is a liar.
We still need to figure out
who you'’re really talking to.
Her current phone number
came back under Yenny [bleep].
- That'’s weird.
- Is that a name that--
- You know that name?
- So we went back through
Rosa'’s Facebook pages,
all three of them,
and this one,
we went to her friends
and they'’re mostly guys
with the exception
of Brandy [bleep].
This girl was a catfish
on our show a couple years ago.
- Okay.
- What'’s interesting
about Brandy
is that she was talking to a guy
who was in Jacksonville,
Florida.
So her episode had something
to do with Florida.
She had a kind of
somewhat dramatic past.
Not too different
from Rosa, right?
Rosa, she'’s gotten in a lot
of fights,
she was molested
as a child.
- So she says.
- This is weird.
Too weird.
- This could just be
a crazy coincidence,
but it'’s definitely
very interesting.
I'’m not ruling out
that it could be Brandy.
Anybody could be Rosa
at this point.
- The only thing
that we do know for sure
is that the phone number
that you'’re communicating
to her through
is connecting you to her.
♪
- In the last few weeks,
you'’ve talked to "Rosa"
on the phone and via text.
- Yeah.
- I can call that number.
I can explain we discovered
she'’s not
the girl in the pictures.
He knows you'’re fake.
He still wants to meet you.
Where are you and can we come?
That'’s our last real option.
- Okay.
- All right,
let'’s give her a call.
Ready?
- I'’m ready.
[phone line trilling]
[tense music]
♪
- Hello, is this Rosa?
My name is Nev
from the TV show "Catfish,"
and we were called
by your friend Danny
to help him--yeah.
We did a little bit of research
and we discovered that
the girl in the pictures
that you'’ve been sending Danny
is somebody else.
You know, we know that
that girl'’s name is Natalie.
- What?
- And...
- Well, I'’m not calling you--
I'’m not--
- I'’m not calling you a liar.
I'’m just trying to figure out
if there'’s any way
that we can meet up with you.
[dramatic music]
♪
You know that Danny
cares about you, right?
I mean, you guys have been
talking for a while.
- I guess.
- And I assume that you must
have some feelings
for him as well.
Is that--is that accurate?
- I think you know
that meeting up with Danny
is the right thing to do.
- Are you in Florida?
- Okay.
- More importantly,
do you really want to meet him?
[thunder cracks]
- [no audible dialogue]
- Okay.
If you tell him the truth
and you'’re honest with him,
and...
[thunder cracks]
- All right.
Text me your address
when you get a chance
and we'’ll see you tomorrow.
[phone beeping]
[somber music]
- [scoffs]
- Jeez.
- This is, like,
the craziest thing, for real.
- Sounds like she'’s been
in Connecticut the whole time.
- Yeah, I don'’t know
if she ever came down here.
- This sucks, man.
I feel like...
I feel like crap now.
You know?
- We know she'’s
a little aggressive
and possibly dangerous,
willing to do things--
or at least says she'’s willing
to do things that are not cool.
Is finding out who she is
worth the risk
of upsetting her?
- [sighs]
You know,
obviously she'’s interested in me
in some kind of way, you know?
I want to find out
who it is at least.
- Well, it looks like
we'’re going to Connecticut.
Pack a bag,
collect your thoughts,
we'’ll leave first thing
in the morning.
We'’ll get up there
and hopefully
we'’ll actually meet her.
- All right.
Sounds like a plan.
[thunder cracking]
♪
- There'’s a storm a-coming.
[both laugh]
- Hey.
- Yo!
- What'’s going on?
- ¿Qué pasa?
- You guys ready to go?
I got to travel to Connecticut
to supposedly go meet Rosa.
This girl been lying to me
this whole time.
[upbeat music]
- How you feeling this morning?
- A little nervous.
- You didn'’t hear
from Rosa, did you?
- I haven'’t heard
from Rosa at all.
We'’re about to find out
who is doing this,
who'’s playing with me,
and we'’re gonna get
to the bottom of this.
♪
- Let'’s do it.
- ♪ You gotta change
♪ Your mind...
- Thank you.
- ♪ The summertime
♪ Is killing me
♪ I wait
♪ I wait to die
♪ When we go
[upbeat rock music]
♪
[electronic beep]
♪
- Whoo!
Another flight down.
New airport.
New city.
Connecticut, baby, I am in you.
♪
- You ready?
- I'’m ready.
- What does it feel like?
- [sighs]
I'’m a little nervous.
- We'’re pretty close.
It'’s, like,
right around the corner I think.
One of these houses in here.
[tense music]
Yeah, that'’s the house.
All right, this is it.
There'’s no turning back.
- All right.
[sighs]
- So I think we should do it.
- Let'’s do it.
- Let'’s go.
♪
- [sighs]
This is crazy, man.
- You guys wait here
in the shade.
I'’ll knock on the door.
♪
[knocking]
- How you feeling?
- I'’m feeling, like--
this is, like, so weird, bro.
This is, like,
killing me right now.
Like, for real.
♪
- Hello.
♪
- Hey.
♪
- I'’m gonna stick my head
for a second.
♪
- What'’s he doing?
- I'’m sure you must be
pretty nervous.
[sobbing]
- It'’s all right, it'’s okay.
- [sobbing]
- Hey, maybe just--
- [sobbing]
- Take a second.
I'’m assuming you'’re Rosa.
- Yep.
- [sighs]
This is, like, so weird, bro.
- Just be yourself,
be honest,
say whatever it is that
you feel comfortable saying.
Okay?
- [sighs]
[sniffles]
[suspenseful music]
♪
- Oh, my God, bro.
- I'’ll say something?
- Okay.
- I'’ll--I'’ll start
the conversation.
♪
This is Jose.
As I understand,
Jose has been Rosa.
- Yep.
- This is just crazy, man.
I don--
What are you doing, man?
- I didn'’t mean for this
to happen like this.
- Aren'’t you ashamed
of yourself, bro?
- I am ashamed of myself.
- Yeah.
- I am, and I'’m not gonna lie.
- What is this, man?
Why would you do something
like that?
- I never meant--you know, I
never meant to hurt nobody else.
I was trying to hurt the person
in the picture.
- The girl in the picture?
Why?
Do you know her?
- Yeah.
Natalie.
- So you know Natalie.
- I went to school with her.
- In Florida?
- I was trying to get her
to feel the pain that I felt.
[somber music]
I used to be bullied in school,
you know?
By her and obviously
a group of other people.
- So you created the account
to take revenge on her?
- Basically, yeah.
♪
- You made that account
in high school?
- I was in high school.
I was in 9th grade.
- And how old are you now?
- You know, I'’m 26 now.
- That was a long time ago.
- That was a long time ago.
- Whatever you have against
this girl, bro,
what does that
have to do with me?
[tense music]
♪
You don'’t play with people
like that.
You don'’t--you don'’t do that
to people.
I'’m over here making plans.
I'’m, like, all into this girl.
What--what were
you actually planning
on getting out of this?
Eventually we'’re gonna
find out the truth, you know.
This is just crazy, man.
It'’s embarrassing, actually.
You know?
- It is embarrassing.
You know, like, I'’m sorry.
Like, I am.
- You need some help.
You need to go to church.
You need to get involved.
You need to speak to someone.
You can'’t just lock yourself
in there
and make believe you'’re a woman.
If you like men,
holla at a dude that likes men.
♪
It'’s as simple as that, man.
♪
What you did was wrong.
- And I admit it.
What I did--
- And I have nothing
to say to you, man.
This is an embarrassment,
for real.
I'’m done here.
[dramatic music]
♪
- [crying softly]
- This dude is sick, bro.
- What you did was wrong.
- And I admit it.
What I did--
- And I have nothing
to say to you, man.
This is an embarrassment,
for real.
I'’m done here.
[man vocalizing]
[light electronic music]
♪
[man vocalizing]
- [crying softly]
[man vocalizing]
- For him,
it might not seem that I care,
but I really do.
Like, I really do,
and I feel bad about myself
every single day that I wake up.
- ♪ So I'’m not a forest ♪
♪ Even if I thought I was one
with you... ♪
- [sighs]
This is [bleep] crazy.
- ♪ '’Cause you'’re not an angel
even if you'’re close ♪
♪
- [sighs]
This is so embarrassing
it'’s not even funny.
- I didn'’t mean to hurt him,
you know,
but I was going through so much at home,
and the only reason that I did
continue talking to Danny--
like, I wanted to stop at first,
you know,
but he was the type of person
that he sat there, you know,
and he listened.
♪
He listened
and actually gave me advice
and never tried to judge me.
[sniffles]
Obviously, he was a good person,
you know.
Very religious, you know,
and those words of inspiration
that he used to tell me,
you know--
you know, really helped too.
[light instrumental music]
Everything that I said that,
you know,
that Rosa was going through,
I really went through it,
you know, as me.
That'’s what I'’m saying,
you know?
I told Danny, you know,
that Rosa was sexually abused.
I mean, it happened to me.
I was in pain.
I--to this day,
I'’m still in pain.
I just tried to find an escape.
I tried to find an escape
through drugs.
I used to do drugs heavy,
you know.
The only way that I stopped
doing drugs--I got locked up.
♪
And that was the only thing
that was helping me.
I felt like being somebody else,
being somebody that you'’re not,
being somebody that you can
actually talk to somebody
and they can'’t judge you
on your past
because they don'’t know nothing
about your past.
- All right, well, look.
This is a distinctive moment
for you.
'’Cause right now,
when you look back at your life,
a lot of it'’s
the stuff that wasn'’t great.
It'’s getting bullied
in high school,
it'’s getting addicted to drugs,
it'’s going to jail.
It'’s not the best past,
and while it'’s not
gonna go away,
starting now,
you can do it
a little differently.
♪
Tomorrow, if you'’re up for it,
we can hopefully help you
start that process of healing
and turn that page
and leave volume one
of the life of Jose
somewhere else
and start, you know, volume two.
- Okay.
Thank you.
- It was nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you guys.
Like, thank you, guys, for real.
- All right.
We'’ll check in with you later.
- Mm-hmm.
♪
- [groans]
- Oh, man.
- Well, that was probably more than you bargained for.
- Uh, yeah.
I just kinda, like,
want to disappear from the world
for a couple of days.
- Yeah, I mean,
I know it'’s not fair
because this is just as much
your experience as it is his,
but I think it'’s pretty obvious
that this guy'’s
had it pretty rough.
- You have every right
to be mad
and to not want to do
anything more for this guy,
but if you really wanted
to be a hero
and go beyond...
- [scoffs]
- The one thing you could
give him
is to let him know
this is not something
you'’re gonna hold against him
for the rest of your life,
and that might lighten
his burden a little more.
♪
- [sighs]
[dramatic music]
♪
[phone line trills]
[light instrumental music]
- Hello.
Jose, it'’s Nev and Max,
and we'’re in the car
with Danny.
We thought it might be good
for us to get back together
like we discussed
and talk a little bit more.
♪
Probably be there
in 10, 15 minutes.
- All right, see you soon.
♪
- ♪ Yeah
♪ It'’s under your skin ♪
♪ Crawling out
♪
♪ Overthinking
♪ What you found
♪
♪ Unrequited
♪ Feel it now
- All right, so this is it.
- This is it.
[dramatic music]
♪
[knocking]
♪
Hello.
- You can come in.
♪
- How you doing?
- Good to see you.
♪
- How'’d you feel
after we left yesterday?
- It--it was kind of confusing.
- Yeah.
Danny had a lot of emotions
that he brought.
You had a lot that you brought.
You guys didn'’t really get
a chance to, like, communicate
in any kind of meaningful way,
so that was partly what we were
hoping we could do today.
♪
- So you were Rosa'’s voice.
♪
- I felt like that was
pretty convincing.
You--
- I couldn'’t tell, yeah.
- Right.
Is that voice something
that you'’ve always
been good at doing?
- I used to do acting
in high school,
but that voice,
like, I never tried it before.
- Can we hear the voice
right now?
- [as Rosa] I mean,
I don'’t know what'’s going on.
You know, a lot of things
been changing in my life.
- Wow.
- Yeah, I guess--
- That'’s good.
- Yeah.
[low laughter]
It'’s pretty good.
- You know, like,
I'’m embarrassed about
the whole situation right now.
Really, like, I can'’t even sleep
at night, you know,
thinking about all this stuff,
all the consequences.
You know, it was bringing me
down every day.
You know, every time
that I thought about it,
you know, every time that,
you know, that I was like,
"Okay, I wanna say something,"
but at the same time I'’m scared.
I didn'’t know how to stop.
- You did Danny wrong.
- I did.
- But here he is.
He could'’ve not
come back here today.
He could'’ve just chosen to be
angry and just say, "That'’s it.
I don'’t wanna ever see this
person again," but here he is.
[light instrumental music]
- I'’m gonna give you
some advice, man.
You know, first of all,
erase those pages.
You need to let go
of those demons
that are kinda,
like, from the past.
Stop worrying about Natalie,
people that bullied you.
You need to focus on you.
Go to church.
Once you start having
a relationship with God,
that'’s when God starts
blessing you.
Would it be okay
if I pray for you?
- [softly]
Yeah.
- Okay?
I'’m gonna do a quick prayer
in Spanish.
That'’s where I feel
more comfortable.
So close your eyes, man.
All right?
♪
[speaking Spanish]
- [softly]
Amen.
Thank you.
- [speaking Spanish]
- [speaks Spanish]
- Okay?
You'’re gonna be all right, man.
- Thank you.
Okay?
You'’re gonna be all right.
[lifting music]
- That was really nice.
♪
- We'’re gonna leave now
and the cameras are
gonna go away,
and it'’ll be very easy
to go back
to exactly
how things were before,
so it'’ll be on you
to kind of--
- I am--I am telling you
I'’m gonna do everything,
especially all the advice
that you gave me.
- Good.
- Use this experience
to kind of...
- Move on.
- Yeah.
- Yep.
I'’m ready.
- Good.
- Great.
- All right.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
♪
- Good-bye, Jose.
It'’s a new day, man.
Everything'’s gonna be
all right, all right?
- Okay.
♪
- That was a really beautiful
thing that you said in there.
♪
- Thank you.
- He probably thought the last person that would accept him
would be you,
and to say a prayer for him
I think means a lot.
- This is crazy, man,
but you know what?
I think this happened
for a reason.
This guy, you know,
he needed something like this.
I think he'’s gonna make
something out of it for him.
- For sure.
- Hopefully I can actually meet
the real Rosa.
"Natalie."
[laughs]
- Try sending her
your puppy emoji.
[laughter]
[upbeat music]
[line trilling]
- Hey!
- Hey, Danny.
- Hey, what'’s going on, man?
- How you doing?
- I'’m doing good, man.
I'’m doing good.
- Are you dating anyone
seriously right now?
- Nothing serious right now.
You know,
I been dating here and there.
- Do you ever talk to Jose?
- You know, a couple of weeks
after the show,
I started actually texting him some positive stuff.
I was like,
"You know what, man?
"Instead of kind of,
like, avoiding him,
this dude needs help.
Let me do what I can,"
but lately, I haven'’t been
in contact, so...
- What about Natalie?
- [laughs]
Uh, you know,
I never contacted her.
You know, it'’s just--I just
been focusing on myself, man.
So, thank you for everything.- All right.
- Thanks, Danny.
Good talking to you, man.
- Take care.
God bless, you guys.
- All right, we'’ll see you soon.
- Later, bro.
[line trilling]
- Hola!
- Hey!
- Hey, how you doing?
- Wow, look at this guy.
- Wow, look at--
you'’re all cleaned up.
- Yeah, nice haircut.
- Yeah.
- Oh, thank you, thank you,
thank you.
- You look good.
- I mean, what--
- You look like
you lost some weight too.
- Yeah.
- I been working out.
- What?
- No way!
- Yep, you guys helped me
a lot.
- Tell us everything.
- Well, I actually
got my own place now.
Been very exciting, you know?
Living here is great.
I'’m working for
a new company now.
I really like it.
I'’m still doing door-to-door.- Sales?
- Sales.
I love sales.
Thank you, ma'’am.
Have a great day.
Thank you.
- You'’re welcome.
- That'’s what I like to do.
That'’s me,
and I been going to church.
- Really?
How'’s that been going?
- When I go there,
you know, I feel more peaceful. I feel comfort.
I feel like
that'’s where I belong.
- That'’s nice.
Have you made any friends
through the church?
- I have made
a couple of friends.
I'’m kind of talking
to somebody right now.
- That was my next question.
Who--who are you
kind of talking to?
- I'’m not gonna put his name
out there or nothing like that.
- Someone you met
on the Internet?
- No, I did not meet
on the Internet.
It was actually
one of the customers that I met
knocking on the door.
- Hey, all right.
Maybe you didn'’t make a sale,
but you definitely got a tip.
- No, I did make a sale.
- Oh, you did make a sale?
Oh, great.
- Yeah.
- Have you been talking
to Danny at all?
- Danny was a great person,
but Danny'’s somebody
that I wanna leave in the past.
Right now I'’m very happy.
I'’m closer to my family now,
and it'’s just amazing
waking up every morning
and just knowing
that you don'’t have
to make no lies up for the day.
You don'’t have
to live a double life.
- What a transformation.
- I'’m happy.
A total transformation.
- Yeah, it'’s like night and day.
- Thank you.
- These are the best kind
of check-ins
that we can ask for.
- Thank you very much.
- Enjoy the rest of your Sunday.
Good luck with everything.
Keep it going.
- Okay, thank you, guys.
- All right, see you, Jose.
- All right, bye, Jose.
- See you!
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