Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 6, Episode 2 - Alante & Nevaeh - full transcript
Alante has spent the last 8 years planning a life with his online love Nevaeh. She's perfect but her disappearances have Alante worried. Nev and Max help to uncover a mysterious truth that affects Alante's entire town.
- She is manipulating
a whole town.
- So, there'’s somebody
going around out here
terrorizing people from Saginaw.
- The deeper we dig,
the darker it gets.
- Still don'’t really know
what we'’re dealing with here.
- This could be a trap.
- Oh, yeah,
this is a sticky situation.
- Eight years leads up
to right now.
- Oh, my God.
[dramatic musical sting]
- We are starting
a fresh episode right now.
- New episode.
Look at this.
Look how official it looks
up top,
and then you go down.
- That'’s true.
The top half is
all glossy and nice,
but underneath,
it'’s just a couple janky boxes.
- Showbiz!
[both laugh]
- All right.
- Alante.
- I like that.
- The new...Allante!
- Actually, yeah,
I was gonna say there'’s a car
that'’s been on my sort of
list of dream cars.
It is, in fact,
the Cadillac Allante.
- Really?
- Yeah. I got to get one.
All right, let'’s get
back to this email.
"Hey, Nev and Max.
My name is Allante.
I'’m 25 years old, and I am
from Saginaw, Michigan."
- Michigan!
- "I split my time at a local
plant as a machine operator
"and being a father of
a three-year-old son, Kadence.
I'’m writing you because
for the last eight years..."
- Eight years?
- "I have been
"in this on-and-off relationship
"with a girl from Detroit.
Her name is Nevaeh."
- She could easily shorten that
to "Nev."
You might be meeting
the female Nev.
- Maybe.
"She'’s 24 years old,
and I have very deep feelings
for her."
- ♪ This is not enough
- "She is the perfect example
of the girl
of every man'’s dreams."
- ♪ This is not enough
- "We have talked
on numerous occasions
"about sneaking off to Vegas
and getting hitched,
"ready to spend
the rest of our lives together.
I really, really do love
this girl."
- ♪ When I fall
you can pick me up ♪
- "There are reasons
I do have some doubts, though.
"For example, I went
to meet with her multiple times,
"but things always end up
happening
"that would prevent us
from meeting
"at the last minute.
"Another concern is
"we may talk on the phone
for days on end,
"but then she disappears
for weeks, sometimes months,
with no explanation."
- Poof!
She'’s gone.
- Gone.
"I was recently
in the hospital
because I was working
too much..."
Jeez.
"It made me realize
"that I have to do something
about Nevaeh.
"Please, can you help me see
if this girl is
"who I think she is:
"the love of my life?
Alante."
- Jeez.
- Wow.
- They'’re not that far away...
- No.
- To be talking to each other
for eight years.
- Well,
but we'’ve seen this before
where, you know,
when you'’re a teenager,
it'’s not so easy to pick up
and go see someone
you met on the Internet.
But now they'’re in their 20s.
I think we should give him
a call.
- All right.
Let'’s talk to him.
- Hey!
- Hey!
- What'’s going on?
- How you doing?
- I'’m all right.
How you all doing?
- We'’re doing good, man.
- You said that you were
recently in the hospital--
is everything okay?
- Yeah. It was just a
dehydration thing with work.
And, you know,
I work major hours.
- Yeah, that'’s crazy.
- So, give us the Nevaeh saga.
- All right, well, pretty much
we started talking originally
when I was a senior
in high school.
She had sent me
a friend request online,
so I instantly just went
through her pictures,
looked at it.
You know, pretty girl.
Gorgeous. Foxy.
And then eventually,
she ended up writing me,
and, you know, the conversation
turned into more.
We were talking every day,
writing each other.
You know, we went on for years.
Hugs, kisses
through the little emojis
through text messaging
and everything.
It got serious.
You know what I'’m saying?
And, like, we had a great bond.
But as days go on, you know,
doubts build up.
- You mentioned in your email
that you tried to meet up
a few times--what happened?
- Yeah, we had agreed to meet
at the mall...
[text whooshes]
So, you know,
I took that chance
and tried to go make something
happen.
I sat at the mall
for maybe two hours waiting.
Eventually she texted me
and said something had came up:
"I'’m sorry.
I'’ll make it up to you."
- Sounds like you never
video chatted
or Skyped with her--
have you?
- Yeah. We'’ll video chat
when we do get a chance.
- Wait, so you have--
- You have
video chatted with her?
- Yeah. But no matter
what is the situation,
it'’s never daytime.
She'’s always in a dark room,
like "I don'’t want nobody
to see me" dark room.
- And I'’m sure you'’ve said,
like,
"Hey, turn the lights on."
- Yeah, plenty of times,
and she'’s like,
"I don'’t want you to see me
like this.
My hair isn'’t done."
- So, you understand
that some things about Nevaeh
may not be exactly
as she says they are.
- You know, I try not to think
of it like that.
It'’s been eight years
of long conversations,
saying we love each other.
Talked about moving together
and making it a real thing.
- Wow.
- It'’s hard to find a girl
like Nevaeh.
I'’ve been waiting
just to get some understanding
of what'’s really going on.
- All right, well,
fingers crossed.
[laughs]
Look at this guy.
- [laughing]
- All right, man, well, look.
You seem like an awesome guy,
so I'’m down to help you out.
- Oh, yeah.
Now I'’m really excited.
- We don'’t know what'’s gonna
happen at the end of this.
- Oh, yeah, I know.
- You might just get Nev
and no Nevaeh.
- [laughs]
- All right,
so we'’ll see you soon.
- See you guys soon.
- This guy'’s awesome.
- I mean, he'’s about to--
to really--
- [groans] I mean--
- To really fall hard.
- Maybe this will be the one
for season six
where it'’s really her.
This is the one
that'’s gonna work out.
- Well, let'’s head to Saginaw.
- Let'’s do it.
- All right.
- Saginaw.
♪♪
- ♪ Quiet, dreaming
♪ Grab all your things
we'’re leaving ♪
♪ We won'’t ever belong ♪
♪ Let'’s never go home now ♪
♪♪
[doorbell rings]
- Oh, I see some movement.
- Hey!
- Hey!
- How you guys doing?
- Alante!
- Come on! Everybody in.
- Yeah.
- So, guys, yeah, let'’s do this.
[sighs]
- All right, so you'’re
fairly happy with work?
- I'’d rather sit behind a desk
or something,
but a man who don'’t work
don'’t eat, so...
- Are you on your feet all day?
- All day.
- Tell us about your son.
- [sighs]
- Kadence.
- Three years old, wild.
- Yeah? He'’s a handful?
- Like, everything you see
at the store:
"I want this! I want this!"
- Just don'’t take him
to the store.
- [laughs]
- Good one.
That'’s what his mama says.
- Yeah.
- His mama?
We'’re cordial.
You know, we got a great
understanding of each other.
It was one of those nights
at the bar.
You meet someone.
You know,
but you can'’t take it back.
I got a great son out of it, so.
She--she cool, you know?
- But there'’s only one girl
in your heart.
- Nevaeh.
- Nevaeh.
- Hands down.
- And how much do you think
about her?
- A lot.
I'’m talking about...
more than I think about food.
- Whoa.
[laughs]
- [laughs]
- You'’re a pretty funny,
sharp guy.
I mean, can she keep up?
- No.
- No?
- There'’s no one really
that can do that.
Like, a lot of girls--
they--"Can'’t take me serious.
You too goofy."
- Uh-huh.
- She takes me serious.
When we were on the phone,
it was all about me and her.
She'’s very romantic.
You'’ll get these little random
messages through the day:
"Hey, love.
I was thinking about you.
Just sent you a random message."
Who wouldn'’t get a great vibe
off somebody like that?
But it'’s a hit-and-miss thing
with her.
Like, we were talking every day,
text messaging every day.
Then she disappeared.
Then, like, two to three months
without talking--
she would pop back up
like we were just talking
that whole little spree.
- No explanation...
- Nothing.
- For where she went
or what happened?
- She just disappeared.Shoo!
- [laughing]
- Wow.
Yeah. I have to imagine
you'’ve dated some other women.
- No. No.
- So, you'’ve never been involved
with someone else,
and then all of a sudden
Nevaeh comes around
and you have to be like,
"Oh, [bleep]."
- There was one girl.
We was talking hard.
- Okay. For how long?
- Four months at least.
Then Nevaeh came back.
And then conversation was--
- And you were hardly talking?
- Never talking.
Dude, I never talked--
- So, you'’ll drop a real girl
for Nevaeh in a heartbeat.
- In a heartbeat.
Because I'’m soft for her.
- Right.
How many pictures
do you think she'’s sent you
in the last eight years?
- Probably like eight to nine.
- Okay, so not a lot.
- Nah.
- I mean, I send that many
pictures usually in a week...
- Right.
- With my--with my girl.
- It'’s really--like I said,
it'’s really getting
to the point where, like,
the stress is starting
to, like, affect me.
Like, I'’m starting to lose hair.
Like I said,
I recently was in the hospital.
They say it was dehydration.
I say it'’s stress.
- You think
you were in the hospital
because you'’re lovesick?
- Yeah.
It'’s time for a change.
- Which could be
starting a life together...
- Peeow!
- Or...
finding out
that she'’s been lying to you.
- I'’d rather know
than not know.
I feel like the time has come.
- Wow.
All right.
Sounds like at any moment
she could poof, disappear,
so, Max, we got work to do.
- All right.
- Let'’s get out of here.
- All right, good to see you.
- All right, guys.
I appreciate it.
- All right, man.
- I like this guy.
- I like him a lot.
- I want to see him
find love here.
I mean, for eight years, he'’s
been basically off the market...
- Right.
- Because he'’s in love with her.
- Man, and I hate to say it,
but, like, my gut is
it'’s a catfish.
- Check this out.
Boom.
both: Ohh! Whoa!
- Oh, my God!
- [laughs]
- All right, so.
- Alante and Nevaeh.
- Alante and Nevaeh have been
talking for eight years.
She comes and goes. She
disappears with no explanation.
Then she shows back up.
She makes plans to meet up,
then blows you off.
She'’s got all the makings
of a classic catfish.
But she seems to really care
about Alante.
Look, we got an email here
from Alante.
"Hey, guys. This is the info
I have on Nevaeh.
"This is her number
that she texts me from now.
"This is the number I call her
on sometimes to talk."
Which is weird.
So, Nevaeh has two numbers.
One for texting
and one for talking.
"Here'’s a link to her Facebook.
"I also attached some pics
that she sent...
"so it'’s not a lot.
Good luck."
- Cheers.
- All right,
let'’s do
a little picture search.
[exhales sharply]
- Did we get something?
- Ooh--ah--no.
- Ugh.
- Here we go. Come on. Come on.
[inhales sharply]
No, we got nothing.
- Ugh.
- Well, there'’s more pictures
on her Facebook page
that we could download.
- That'’s true.
- Save. Save.
Save.
- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- Hold on.
Let'’s run some new pics in.
[dramatic music]
both: Oh!
- We got a hit!
We got a hit!
Click on one of these links.
- "I'’m getting closer to my--"
- This is her blog!
- Look. Instagram.
- Oh, boy.
So, this is Audrey.
- Boom.
- She'’s based in Brooklyn.
She'’s a journalist, blogger.
She'’s got 13,000 followers.
- Wow.
She'’s Insta-famous.
Oh, look.
There'’s one of the pictures
we saw, right there.
- Ugh, yeah, that'’s it.
- Yeah.
- This girl is definitely
who'’s in the photos.
- Yeah.
- We found the mask.
- Right.
Now we need to figure out
who he'’s actually talking to.
And the only thing we know is
that this is
their Facebook page.
Let'’s see here. Says she lives
in Auburn Hills, Michigan.
345 friends.
Not a ton.
- No.
- But--
- It'’s a real amount.
- Right. It'’s like--
- Is there some way to see
how many of her friends are
mutual with Alante?
- I don'’t know.
- Really?
- Whoa.
- What is this hack?
Nevaeh plus?
- No. A-N-D.
Question mark, A-N-D,
equal sign.
- Question mark, and, equals,
and then Alante'’s username.
This should show us
mutual friends.
Whoa!
- What?
- This is awesome.
- Yeah.
- So, yeah, 46 mutual friends.
- Which is a lot.
- That'’s a lot,
for someone he doesn'’t know.
Are they all in Saginaw?
- Yeah, they are.
- They'’re all Saginaw people.
- All right, so,
let'’s just send a message
to all 46
of their mutual friends.
Really simple.
"How do you know Nevaeh?"
All right, so, "Hey Aletha...
could use your help.
"Wondering
how you know Nevaeh Watson.
Please get back to me
as soon as you can."
- Okay.
- All right. Let'’s just
fire them out.
- Anna [bleep].
- Dion.
- Marquaveous.
- Royon.
"Hey, Bo."
- Hey, Bo.
Curtis.
- Alexandria.
- Seiairah.
Qua.
[sighs]
- We have now sent out messages
to all 46 people.
- You know what time it is?
- Time to run
those phone numbers.
- You got it.
So, here'’s the phone number
they text on.
Okay. Here we go.
Iowa Falls?
- Something.
- Oh, that'’s a landline,
so it'’s probably a text app.
- So, it'’s, like,
an Internet number.
- All right, let'’s try again
with the other number
that they talk on.
- Mm-hmm.
- Okay.
- We gonna get something.
- Come on.
- Oh! We got a few hits.
- Ooh, whoa.
Christopher [bleep]
and then Latoya [bleep].
We know it'’s a woman that'’s been
talking to him on the phone.
- Well, who'’s Latoya [bleep]?
- Let'’s search Facebook.
- Oh, boy. That'’s--
- Saginaw! Boom!
- That'’s her.
- Boom!
- That'’s got to be her.
- Okay.
Let'’s see if he and Latoya have
any friends in common.
- New hack.
Question mark, "and," equals...
23 mutual friends.
- Wow. That'’s a lot.
This is a big clue.
This connects them.
- All right, so, look. We know
that the girl in the pictures
that'’s Nevaeh'’s been sending
to Alante
are not her.
- We found a number linked
to a woman in Saginaw
named named Latoya [bleep].
It'’s very possible
that this Latoya woman
could be the catfish.
- She is our prime suspect.
[computer dings]
- Oh! We got something.
- Oh! Oh, man.
Royon says "I called the number.
It went to voicemail."
All right,
let'’s give him a call.
[line trilling]
- Yeah, hi. Is this Royon?
- Roy-on. Sorry.
This is Nev from "Catfish,"
and I'’m sitting here with Max.
We'’re trying to help out someone
who lives in Saginaw,
which is--I believe is
where you live, right?
- And we saw that you'’re friends
with a girl named Nevaeh Watson.
- So, how do you know her?
- Oh.
- Whoa. Okay, so you guys have
been flirting, like,
in the last couple weeks.
- So, recently. Okay.
All right, man. Thank you.
- Not good.
- Whoa.
The fact that just
in the last few weeks
she just randomly hit up
some new guy
and has been flirting with him
and posting on his wall--
- She'’s hollering at guys
from Saginaw...
- Yeah.
- On the Internet.
- This is gonna break his heart.
- Hey!
- Ohh! What'’s up?
- Got news?
- I'’m in my all--
I'’m in my uniform.
- No. Not your personal--
- I'’m all black.
- Yeah.
Your black uniform.
- [laughs]
I got a little bit
of an update here.
- Oh, yeah?
- Oh, yeah.
I spoke to two people last
night, and--
- You spoke to someone
last night without me there?
- Well, I had the phone.
They called me.
[phone ringing]
Hello?
I'’m trying to find out
a little bit more
about this girl, Nevaeh.
- Both of them guys.
Both of them from Saginaw.
Both of whom have spoken
to Nevaeh on Facebook.
- She is manipulating
a whole town.
- Let'’s check in with Alante.
[line trilling]
- Hey. Good morning, Alante.
- We want to talk.
We'’ve got some interesting
information.
- Sure.
- Anything we should bring?
- Okay. See you soon.
- Let'’s head over.
- ♪Oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, ohh ♪
- There we go.
- Let'’s do it.
- Party'’s here!
- Hey, it'’s a party.
What'’s up?
- Nothing, how are you?
- Whoa! Got '’em.
- Got '’em.
- What'’s up, man?
Ooh, I see burgers.
- Yeah, it'’s burgers up here.
- Yeah, we got some over there.
- But we'’ve been waiting
on these hot dogs.
- Whoa!
- Right.
Got some for you.
- So, how--are you guys
just friends, or--
- No. That'’s my brother.
- Your brother?
- Oh, really?
- Yep.
That'’s my little brother.
- And I'’m his God-sister.
- Oh, nice.
- Yeah.
- What do you guys know
about why we'’re here?
- I know a little bit.
I actually can'’t wait for him
to finally just meet her
so he can get that closure
that he needs.
It'’s been a couple years.
- More than that.
- [laughing]
- Man, it'’s been, like,
almost eight years.
- That'’s a long time to still be
hoping and praying
and waiting for somebody.
Just get it over with already.
It'’s a long time
to string somebody along.
- Do you think she'’s real?
- I think she'’s somebody
that look like Roseanne.
[laughter]
- But what if it'’s a guy?
- She'’s a girl, of course.
- Well, how do you know?
- Sitting here listening to him
talk on the phone,
you can hear--
- You'’ve heard her voice
through his phone?
- I'’ve heard--yeah.
- Oh, okay, and it sounds
like a girl to you, too?
- Yeah.
- All right.
- I just hope she can cook.
[all laugh]
- We found some information
we want to talk to you about,
so we should go over that,
but we'’re getting closer
to figuring out the truth.
- Let'’s do this.
- All right.
All right.
Why don'’t we show you
what we found?
- Yeah, man.
- So, the first thing we did
was we did an image search.
We got a hit...
[dramatic music]
A website called Lulu Linden,
and it'’s a fashion blog...
- Hmm.
- By this girl, who says,
"Hi. I'’m Lulu Linden.
Well, actually I'’m Audrey."
- Holy [bleep].
- At the bottom,
there are links,
so we went to the Instagram.
- She'’s got 12.8 thousand
followers.
- And she'’s posting lots
of pictures.
♪♪
- That'’s mind blowing.
- Once we found this,
obviously, we knew,
all right, Nevaeh'’s not the girl
in the pictures.
- Holy [bleep].
- Now we need to figure out...
- Who she is.
- Who Nevaeh actually is.
- Right.
- So, we went back to her page.
But we noticed that you have
46 mutual friends
that are friends of yours
here in Saginaw.
- That are friends of--
- Anybody you recognize?
- Everybody.
- Oh, you know
all these people...
- All of them.
- For the most part.
So, why would she have
all these local Saginaw friends?
- Never paid attention to it.
- Well, we sent messages to
pretty much everybody on here,
and a couple people got back
to us.
Do you know a guy named Royon?
- Yeah. [bleep].
- Yeah.
- Yes.
He said a couple weeks ago
Nevaeh sent him a friend request
and they kind of
started flirting.
Like, they were talking.
♪♪
And I spoke to two other guys
last night on the phone
who had similar stories:
"Yeah, she friended me."
- So, there'’s somebody
going around out here
terrorizing people from Saginaw.
- Saginaw catfish.
- Yeah.
- [groans]
- Hang in there.
Let'’s get through this.
So, when we ran
the phone numbers,
a Saginaw number came up
with a Latoya [bleep].
♪♪
- Is this nothing?
- Never seen this person?
- Never.
- Well, we looked up Latoya.
- Ugh.
- She'’s got a Facebook page.
We looked to see if you have
any mutual friends,
and guess what.
- 23 of them.
- 23 mutual friends.
- This is crazy.
- Someone about the right age,
female, lives in Saginaw.
This could be
who you'’ve been talking to.
- ♪ The whispers of rejection
- I done seen some crazy stuff.
This just put the icing
on the cake.
- ♪ Float around in vain
- If you got to lie
about something so basic,
you would lie about anything.
- ♪ For if we stop the cycle
♪♪
- I'’m all [bleep] up now.
- ♪ We celebrate the pain♪
♪♪
- That'’s so crazy.
♪♪
[sighs]
Went this long.
♪♪
Oh, my God.
Why me?
[dog barking]
- I don'’t know what to do.
I don'’t know how to think.
Eight years.
I need answers.
- Should we call her?
- Call her.
[line trilling]
- I'’m sorry. The party
you are trying to reach
has not set up voicemail on--
- Let'’s send a text.
"Please give me a call
when you--
Thanks."
[text whooshes]
All right.
- We'’ve sent a message.
We'’ve called.
That'’s about as much
as we can do right now.
Ball'’s kind of in her court.
[somber piano music]
You gonna be okay, man?
- I'’ll be all right.
♪♪
Probably.
- It'’s easy to kind of
imagine the worst now
because you'’ve only been
imagining the best.
Neither one is probably
entirely correct.
- Especially right now.
- Especially right now.
I think we'’re gonna...
head out.
- [sighs]
All right, guys.
- Hang in there.
Let us know if you hear anything
from her,
and if we hear,
we'’ll let you know.
- Got you.
- Okay.
♪♪
Whew.
Ugh.
He'’s in a dark place right now.
Now the big question though is:
will Nevaeh get back to us?
- Yeah.
- Or is she gonna freak out
and disappear forever?
- '’Cause she'’s a disappear-er.
- Right.
- We have no power
in this situation.
[phone rings]
- Uh-oh.
- Uh-oh.
- That could be her.
Hello?
- Who is this?
Yeah, no--this is Nev,
and I'’m with Max.
- Hi. Is this Nevaeh?
- Yeah. I'’m not sure
who I'’m talking to.
- Your name is Seiairah. Okay.
Do you know Nevaeh?
- Well, she'’s someone that we
reached out to on Facebook.
- Okay.
- Sure. Yeah.
Where should we meet you?
- Okay. Great.
We will meet you
whenever you say
and wherever you want.
Okay, thanks, Seiairah.
[line beeps]
Oh.
- It--
What?
That was really weird.
I'’m not sure
what to make of this,
and I don'’t want
to get Alante'’s feelings
any more jumbled up
than they already are,
so why don'’t we see
what she has to say
before we jump
to any conclusions?
- Now I'’m starting to feel
really creeped out by all this.
This could be a trap.
- Got a message from our girl.
- This is really sketchy.
- All right.
Hello.
- Seiairah?
- Yeah.
- I'’m Max.
- Hey, Max.
- Hey. Nev.
How are you?
- This is real. This is crazy.
- It'’s us.
So, you know Nevaeh.
How well do you know Nevaeh?
- We'’re close friends.
- Do you know Alante?
- Yes, I know Alante.
- You do?
So, you know that Nevaeh has
been talking to Alante
for a long time?
- Yes.
- Because we know that Nevaeh
hasn'’t been telling
the whole truth.
We don'’t know exactly how much
she'’s been lying about,
but we know that she'’s not
the girl in the pictures.
But I'’m willing to guess
there'’s more
that we probably don'’t know
about her.
- Yeah, there'’s more.
- Are you Nevaeh?
- No.
- Why are you talking to us?
- We'’ve been friends
for a very long time,
but I feel like
I'’m in the middle of everything.
I want her to come clean...
- Okay.
- That she'’s been
catfishing people.
- I mean, I understand you
having a hard time,
because you don'’t want
to rat her out,
but the jig is up.
She knows we'’re in town
looking for her.
We tried to message her
and call her,
but she didn'’t answer
and she hasn'’t responded.
So, do you have
any sort of information
or suggestions on how we can
maybe get in touch with her?
- I can call her for you
and see if she want to meet
with you guys.
- Yeah. Can you call her and...
- Sure.
Yo. What you doing?
Mm. You heard
"Catfish" was in town?
- Why can'’t it be her?
- It could be.
- It'’s time to come clean, boo.
- This is weird and sketchy
and amazing
all at the same time.
- She said meet her
at Ojibway Park in a hour.
Ojibway Park.
- Okay, well, I guess--
- Thank you?
- Yeah. That--
you helped us a lot.
- [laughs]
- Nice to meet you.
- We'’ll take it from here.
- You too.
- Thanks.
- All right.
See you later, Seiairah.
- See you.
- Well, let'’s go
and tell him what we know...
- All right.
- And then go and meet Nevaeh.
- Yeah. We don'’t have
a lot of time.
[phone line trilling]
- Hey, buddy.
- Can we come over and download
you on what'’s been happening?
- All right.
We'’ll see you in a sec.
- What up?
- How you feeling?
- I'’m all right.
- Yeah?
- Come on in, guys.
- We'’ve got some updates.
- Yeah. So, right after we left,
I got a phone call,
and they were like, "Hi,"
and she said, "Can we meet?"
- So we just met her.
- We just met this girl.
Now, she says she knows you.
Do you know a girl
named Seiairah?
- Yeah. Yeah, okay,
I know who you'’re talking about.
- Who is she?
- Trying to think
of how I can say this.
She'’s--on the crush list.
- She has a crush on you?
- Yes.
- Hmm. Little young.
- Yeah.
- But she'’s cute.
So, I'’m not sure what your...
- She'’s all right.
- Hang-up is on that.
- Yeah.
- Anyway, Seiairah said
she knows Nevaeh.
So, she wanted to help us,
so she called her.
And then came back and said,
"Okay, Nevaeh said
she'’ll meet you,"
so if you want to come with us,
we'’ll bring you.
- Mm-hmm.
I want to see now.
- All right. Let'’s go.
- This is it.
- Ooh-ee.
- That--you spent the last
eight years talking to someone
and you'’re gonna meet them
for the first time.
- I think y'’all holding out
on me.
- No.
- I think that--
Seiairah was acting
kind of the weirdest.
- It could still be Seiairah.
- Wow.
- I mean, it could be Latoya.
That could be her.
- Or we don'’t know who it is.
- Oh, yeah, this is
a sticky situation right here.
Starting to bum me out now.
We getting closer.
- Yeah.
It'’s right here on our left.
- Wait, I ju--
- There it is.
- No escape.
- [laughs]
- Oh, here'’s a parking lot.
There'’s a bunch of cars
over here.
I don'’t see people, though.
It'’s weird, right?
They'’re all just in their cars.
This is where she told us
to meet her.
- All right. You ready?
- I'’m ready.
- Eight years leads up
to right now.
- All right. Let'’s do this.
- Let'’s do this.
[dramatic music]
- Over there.
- Let'’s check it out over here,
guys.
- There'’s someone waiting
over there.
- Is there?
- Well, there'’s someone
on the dock there
with their back to us.
- Oh.
- Oh, yeah. There is.
- That looks like a...
- Yeah.
- Potential catfish
straight ahead.
- Looks like a woman.
- It doesn'’t really look
like Seiairah.
- Is that Latoya?
I can'’t see their face.
- This is very mysterious.
- Is that--
- Hello.
[dramatic music]
Hello.
- Hi again.
- We meet again.
- Hi. Yeah.
- So, how--you guys just
friends, or--
- I'’m his God-sister.
- God-sister.
- Oh, nice.
- Yeah.
I actually can'’t wait
for him to finally
just meet her.
- Um.
- So...
It was you the whole time?
- Mm-hmm.
- Why, though?
- It was just supposed
to be a lesson
that needed to be learned.
When you told me about Seiairah,
I told you from the jump
I didn'’t think
that that was a good idea.
- Are we talking
about Seiairah we just met?
So, you got to fill us in here.
- Seiairah told me
she had a crush on Alante,
and I told her not to pursue it.
- Why?
- Because you'’re my friend.
That'’s my brother. I don'’t want
to be in the middle.
So, I gave her her proof
that you were talking
to other people on Facebook.
- Ugh.
- I'’m not saying that
that'’s not what happened...
- Mm-hmm.
- But it feels like
you didn'’t want
some other girl
to be with Alante
because you wanted
to be with Alante.
- No. Not at all.
That'’s it.
That'’s my brother.
- Well, he'’s not your brother.
You'’re not actually related.
- No. Not blood-related, no.
- Right.
But you'’re very close,
and he'’s your God-brother.
- Yes.
- At what point
did you make a fake profile,
decide to name it Nevaeh--
- I had already made it.
- Okay.
- So, it was
just something originally
that me and all my friends did
in high school,
because I had some friends
who were, you know,
"Hey, add my boyfriend,"
or "Add this person,"
so I added them
as Nevaeh'’s friend,
and immediately
they would poke her on Facebook,
direct message her,
and that right there
was your proof that
he'’ll engage in a conversation
with somebody else.
- So, why keep this Nevaeh
profile going so long
with Alante?
- Right, why keep it going
for eight years?
- Because after a while,
you know, I told Seiairah--I was
like, "You think it'’s time?"
You know, "Is it time for me
to just let it go?"
And Seiairah:
"No. Write him back."
- Why do you have her back
over his?
- I mean, because I'’m a female,
so I knew
what she was going through.
- This sounds like bull[bleep].
- I mean--
- I'’m gonna walk over there
with Alante
just to check in with him.
Why don'’t we--why don'’t we go
for a little walk?
Help me understand
a little bit.
When you were young,
you and Seiairah had something.
- She had something.
We were talking.
- Right.
- There wasn'’t no touching.
- She had a much bigger crush
on you.
You were the older guy.
- I was the older guy.
- Okay.
But did--did you ever
do anything to make her feel
like you were actually dating?
- No.
- No.
- It just had to be
a young state of mind.
- So, yesterday when I asked you
if you had been in the room
or if you had spoken
to Nevaeh before,
did you make that up?
- One time, I had been
in the room. I was on one side
of the room--
Alante was on the couch.
And I'’m sitting there
talking to him, and, you know,
Alante was so caught up
in talking to her,
he didn'’t even pay attention
that I had gotten up.
- [exhales sharply]
Wow.
- Eight years.
That [bleep] crazy.
That [bleep] starting
to tear my eyes up.
[somber music]
- You could'’ve just said to him
at some point,
"Hey, stop talking
to this Nevaeh girl,"
like, "It'’s me."
- I didn'’t want to just come out
and say, "I'’m fake.
I'’m not who you think I am."
I wanted to kind of
let it down gently.
- I don'’t even want
to talk to her.
There'’s nothing to talk about.
♪♪
- What you got?
- Not a lot.
Just he'’s really upset
and confused about it.
- ♪ Why would you want this
right now? ♪
♪ When you can see them
giving up? ♪
- I feel like it'’s probably best
you don'’t try
to contact him right now.
- Yeah, I'’ma just
give him his space.
I mean, I hope he forgives me,
but I just don'’t feel so good
about it right now.
So, I mean, if you want
to talk tomorrow, I'’m free.
- Okay.
All right, well, I don'’t know
what'’s gonna happen after this,
obviously,
but at least the cat'’s
out of the bag.
- All right. Bye.
- Thank you.
- That'’s rough.
- I don'’t buy her story.
Who knows
what the real truth is here?
You know what I mean?
- Ugh.
[upbeat music]
- Hey, guys!
- Hey.
- Hey, yo!
- Were you sleeping in there?
- No. I was in there
watching "Catfish."
- How you feeling today, buddy?
- I'’m good.
- Well, you didn'’t say much
yesterday, obviously.
- I felt like I just did
what I had to do
not to be the
psychopathic-looking person.
- Right.
- You know,
I got some questions.
A lot of questions.
- Okay.
If it'’s cool,
we can call Ericka
and tell her
to meet us here.
[line trilling]
- Hello.
- Hey. It'’s Nev
and Max and Alante.
- How are you?
- We'’re okay.
We thought you could
come over here,
and we could all talk
a little bit more calmly
about this whole situation.
- Okay.
Thank you.
[light knocking on door]
- Ah, this is gonna be good.
Hope y'’all are ready.
- We'’re ready.
- Is security close?
- Hey.
- Hi. How are you?
- Good. How are you?
- Good.
- Come on in.
You okay?
- Yeah.
[sighs]
- Good to see you.
- Good to see you, too.
- Here--why don'’t you sit here?
- Okay.
Maybe, Alante,
if you want to start.
- Uh...
pretty much why?
The whole Seiairah thing.
- Mm-hmm.
- What the [bleep]?
Like...
in order for you to be
feeling some type of way,
she had to really be
in a relationship with me?
- She liked him.
But my thing is this:
if you play me,
I'’m going to get you
when you least expect it.
If you hurt me,
I'’m gonna hurt you.
It might not--
- Did Alante hurt you?
- Uh-uh.
- Well, you remember the dude
that lives around
the corner from me?
- Yep.
- That'’s your friend.
You knew your friend
was a dog,
and you ain'’t tell me.
I'’m your sister, right?
You didn'’t tell me
that he was a dog.
- So what happened,
you were dating someone?
- I was in a relationship
with one of his friends,
off and on
for about seven years.
And he told him
that he didn'’t think that
the relationship was
that serious,
but yet Alante
never told me that,
"Hey, he not really into you."
I felt like because of the type
of bond that we had,
maybe you would have understood
where I was coming from,
just as a female.
- I don'’t know what
Tyler Perry movie you watched
and got that idea from, but...
- But you knew
that he was--
- But he strung me along
for 7 1/2 years--
- I shouldn'’t have had
to tell you. He showed it.
- But how was
I supposed to know?
He didn'’t start showing it
until later on.
Time had already
been invested.
- I hope you had fun doing it,
'’cause, uh--
- I hope at the end
of the day you still under--
you understand
what was going on,
and you'’re not.
- No, I never took--
- Whoa, wait, Ericka.
- You don'’t.
- Ericka, wait.
You'’re obviously, like,
very angry
and very hurt
by the way you feel
the world has treated you.
I mean, the truth is that,
like, you'’re not entirely
being honest with yourself
for why you did this.
- It'’s been [bleep] years.
Like, how do you explain
something like this?
- I mean, I kind of just--
I didn'’t--I didn'’t think
about the aftermath.
I didn'’t mean
for it to go this far.
I just, you know, I got
so caught up and wrapped up
in being Nevaeh.
I actually liked it.
I did.
Because I have been told that,
"Oh, you'’re pretty
for a dark-skinned girl."
"You'’re pretty
to be kind of chunky."
"You'’re pretty to be short."
But Nevaeh'’s confident.
She'’s pretty.
She'’s light.
She models.
Everybody wants her.
And I had to remember
it'’s not that they want me.
They want her.
But he didn'’t deserve
to get strung along
for that long.
I thought that, you know,
he would say,
"You kind of just pop
in and out of my life.
I don'’t have time
for that instability."
I wanted him to end
the relationship with Nevaeh,
but, you know,
I would go away,
and then when
he would leave a message
I would hear that
sincerity in his voice.
"Are you okay?
I was just checking in on you."
And I'’m like, "Okay,
I got to tell him,"
you know,
"that I'’m all right."
And so that'’s why
I let it carry on so long.
It wasn'’t necessarily
about you.
It was the inner problems
and the inner issues
that I needed to work on
as myself.
I feel like I just lost
my best friend behind this.
And was it worth it?
No.
- There'’s definitely
no friendship.
You could hit the lottery
for Mega Millions tomorrow,
and I wouldn'’t give
a [bleep].
- It'’s--
it'’s going nowhere.
It'’s going nowhere.
- Pretty much.
- I said I'’m sorry.
That'’s all I can say.
So, it was nice meeting you.
- Nice to meet you, too.
Take care, Ericka.
- ♪ Just try to survive
- Ericka.
I know it'’s tough.
- Thank you.
- You did the right thing.
Okay?
- I feel so [bleep]
about it, though.
♪
I love him to death.
That'’s the closest thing to me.
- Hopefully over time
it'’ll get better.
Stay strong.
- Thank you.
♪
- Well, that'’s sad.
- For who?
- For everyone.
- You can'’t play
with people like that.
It is what it is.
My next move:
work on myself.
I'’m gonna be 25.
- ♪ It'’s best left alone ♪
- Pretty sure there'’s
someone out there for me.
[phone line trilling]
- Hello?
- Hey, how are you?
- You guys.
- Wow, you guys are
in the same room.
- Yeah.
- What'’s that about?
- [sighs][laughs]
- So, after you guys left,
I ended up moving.
- Alante'’s actually
staying the weekend with me.
- Wai--wait a second.
- Whoa, what does that mean?
- We'’ve talked
and we'’re actually
working on our relationship.
- Relationship as friends?
- Yes.
- Friends with benefits?
- [exhales]
- No, no, no.
- [laughs]
- The way we left off,
it was such a negative note.
I didn'’t want
to leave it that way.
- I was mad, huh?
- We'’re not even gonna go there.
- [laughs]
- I always told him,
you know,
"If you need me, I'’m here."
His dad just passed away,
so that'’s why he'’s here.
- This the first time
since the funeral I been back.
- You all right?
[somber music]
- Yeah, I'’m good.
- Sorry to hear that, man.
- Thanks, man.
You know, I'’m dealing with it.
- I knew,
now my friend needs me,
and we didn'’t even mention it.
It was just, you know,
"Hey, I'’m here if you need me.
- We been friends for so long,
and then when my pops passed,
I needed a shoulder.
- Let'’s go, buddy.
Let'’s go, let'’s go.
- I had time
to think about this,
and, you know,
I ain'’t the type of guy
to be mad at someone forever.
As a man, you know,
you gotta look past some things.
- And as a woman,
you gotta be able
to admit when you was wrong.
- Hoo-hoo!
- [laughs]
- Ooh, this gonna be the best
spaghetti you'’ve ever had.
- What about you, Ericka?
How are things going with you?
- I actually found that
I'’m gonna have a baby.
- Poof.
- Whoa!
- What? Who'’s the guy?
- The mailman.
- [laughs]
- Don'’t tell nobody.
- Wow, I should go into
delivering mail.
- [laughs]
- Can we see your belly though.
Do you have a belly?
- A little one.
- Oh, yeah, there it is.
- Oh, okay.
I'’m so happy to see that
you guys are friends again.
I know that, like you said,
you'’ve got a long friendship
and it means a lot
to both of you.
- It'’s just part of my charm.
I'’m lovable.
People can'’t stay mad at me
too long.
- Yeah, have a great
rest of your weekend,
and good luck with everything.
both: Bye, guys.
- See ya.
- [laughs]
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00:41:16.
a whole town.
- So, there'’s somebody
going around out here
terrorizing people from Saginaw.
- The deeper we dig,
the darker it gets.
- Still don'’t really know
what we'’re dealing with here.
- This could be a trap.
- Oh, yeah,
this is a sticky situation.
- Eight years leads up
to right now.
- Oh, my God.
[dramatic musical sting]
- We are starting
a fresh episode right now.
- New episode.
Look at this.
Look how official it looks
up top,
and then you go down.
- That'’s true.
The top half is
all glossy and nice,
but underneath,
it'’s just a couple janky boxes.
- Showbiz!
[both laugh]
- All right.
- Alante.
- I like that.
- The new...Allante!
- Actually, yeah,
I was gonna say there'’s a car
that'’s been on my sort of
list of dream cars.
It is, in fact,
the Cadillac Allante.
- Really?
- Yeah. I got to get one.
All right, let'’s get
back to this email.
"Hey, Nev and Max.
My name is Allante.
I'’m 25 years old, and I am
from Saginaw, Michigan."
- Michigan!
- "I split my time at a local
plant as a machine operator
"and being a father of
a three-year-old son, Kadence.
I'’m writing you because
for the last eight years..."
- Eight years?
- "I have been
"in this on-and-off relationship
"with a girl from Detroit.
Her name is Nevaeh."
- She could easily shorten that
to "Nev."
You might be meeting
the female Nev.
- Maybe.
"She'’s 24 years old,
and I have very deep feelings
for her."
- ♪ This is not enough
- "She is the perfect example
of the girl
of every man'’s dreams."
- ♪ This is not enough
- "We have talked
on numerous occasions
"about sneaking off to Vegas
and getting hitched,
"ready to spend
the rest of our lives together.
I really, really do love
this girl."
- ♪ When I fall
you can pick me up ♪
- "There are reasons
I do have some doubts, though.
"For example, I went
to meet with her multiple times,
"but things always end up
happening
"that would prevent us
from meeting
"at the last minute.
"Another concern is
"we may talk on the phone
for days on end,
"but then she disappears
for weeks, sometimes months,
with no explanation."
- Poof!
She'’s gone.
- Gone.
"I was recently
in the hospital
because I was working
too much..."
Jeez.
"It made me realize
"that I have to do something
about Nevaeh.
"Please, can you help me see
if this girl is
"who I think she is:
"the love of my life?
Alante."
- Jeez.
- Wow.
- They'’re not that far away...
- No.
- To be talking to each other
for eight years.
- Well,
but we'’ve seen this before
where, you know,
when you'’re a teenager,
it'’s not so easy to pick up
and go see someone
you met on the Internet.
But now they'’re in their 20s.
I think we should give him
a call.
- All right.
Let'’s talk to him.
- Hey!
- Hey!
- What'’s going on?
- How you doing?
- I'’m all right.
How you all doing?
- We'’re doing good, man.
- You said that you were
recently in the hospital--
is everything okay?
- Yeah. It was just a
dehydration thing with work.
And, you know,
I work major hours.
- Yeah, that'’s crazy.
- So, give us the Nevaeh saga.
- All right, well, pretty much
we started talking originally
when I was a senior
in high school.
She had sent me
a friend request online,
so I instantly just went
through her pictures,
looked at it.
You know, pretty girl.
Gorgeous. Foxy.
And then eventually,
she ended up writing me,
and, you know, the conversation
turned into more.
We were talking every day,
writing each other.
You know, we went on for years.
Hugs, kisses
through the little emojis
through text messaging
and everything.
It got serious.
You know what I'’m saying?
And, like, we had a great bond.
But as days go on, you know,
doubts build up.
- You mentioned in your email
that you tried to meet up
a few times--what happened?
- Yeah, we had agreed to meet
at the mall...
[text whooshes]
So, you know,
I took that chance
and tried to go make something
happen.
I sat at the mall
for maybe two hours waiting.
Eventually she texted me
and said something had came up:
"I'’m sorry.
I'’ll make it up to you."
- Sounds like you never
video chatted
or Skyped with her--
have you?
- Yeah. We'’ll video chat
when we do get a chance.
- Wait, so you have--
- You have
video chatted with her?
- Yeah. But no matter
what is the situation,
it'’s never daytime.
She'’s always in a dark room,
like "I don'’t want nobody
to see me" dark room.
- And I'’m sure you'’ve said,
like,
"Hey, turn the lights on."
- Yeah, plenty of times,
and she'’s like,
"I don'’t want you to see me
like this.
My hair isn'’t done."
- So, you understand
that some things about Nevaeh
may not be exactly
as she says they are.
- You know, I try not to think
of it like that.
It'’s been eight years
of long conversations,
saying we love each other.
Talked about moving together
and making it a real thing.
- Wow.
- It'’s hard to find a girl
like Nevaeh.
I'’ve been waiting
just to get some understanding
of what'’s really going on.
- All right, well,
fingers crossed.
[laughs]
Look at this guy.
- [laughing]
- All right, man, well, look.
You seem like an awesome guy,
so I'’m down to help you out.
- Oh, yeah.
Now I'’m really excited.
- We don'’t know what'’s gonna
happen at the end of this.
- Oh, yeah, I know.
- You might just get Nev
and no Nevaeh.
- [laughs]
- All right,
so we'’ll see you soon.
- See you guys soon.
- This guy'’s awesome.
- I mean, he'’s about to--
to really--
- [groans] I mean--
- To really fall hard.
- Maybe this will be the one
for season six
where it'’s really her.
This is the one
that'’s gonna work out.
- Well, let'’s head to Saginaw.
- Let'’s do it.
- All right.
- Saginaw.
♪♪
- ♪ Quiet, dreaming
♪ Grab all your things
we'’re leaving ♪
♪ We won'’t ever belong ♪
♪ Let'’s never go home now ♪
♪♪
[doorbell rings]
- Oh, I see some movement.
- Hey!
- Hey!
- How you guys doing?
- Alante!
- Come on! Everybody in.
- Yeah.
- So, guys, yeah, let'’s do this.
[sighs]
- All right, so you'’re
fairly happy with work?
- I'’d rather sit behind a desk
or something,
but a man who don'’t work
don'’t eat, so...
- Are you on your feet all day?
- All day.
- Tell us about your son.
- [sighs]
- Kadence.
- Three years old, wild.
- Yeah? He'’s a handful?
- Like, everything you see
at the store:
"I want this! I want this!"
- Just don'’t take him
to the store.
- [laughs]
- Good one.
That'’s what his mama says.
- Yeah.
- His mama?
We'’re cordial.
You know, we got a great
understanding of each other.
It was one of those nights
at the bar.
You meet someone.
You know,
but you can'’t take it back.
I got a great son out of it, so.
She--she cool, you know?
- But there'’s only one girl
in your heart.
- Nevaeh.
- Nevaeh.
- Hands down.
- And how much do you think
about her?
- A lot.
I'’m talking about...
more than I think about food.
- Whoa.
[laughs]
- [laughs]
- You'’re a pretty funny,
sharp guy.
I mean, can she keep up?
- No.
- No?
- There'’s no one really
that can do that.
Like, a lot of girls--
they--"Can'’t take me serious.
You too goofy."
- Uh-huh.
- She takes me serious.
When we were on the phone,
it was all about me and her.
She'’s very romantic.
You'’ll get these little random
messages through the day:
"Hey, love.
I was thinking about you.
Just sent you a random message."
Who wouldn'’t get a great vibe
off somebody like that?
But it'’s a hit-and-miss thing
with her.
Like, we were talking every day,
text messaging every day.
Then she disappeared.
Then, like, two to three months
without talking--
she would pop back up
like we were just talking
that whole little spree.
- No explanation...
- Nothing.
- For where she went
or what happened?
- She just disappeared.Shoo!
- [laughing]
- Wow.
Yeah. I have to imagine
you'’ve dated some other women.
- No. No.
- So, you'’ve never been involved
with someone else,
and then all of a sudden
Nevaeh comes around
and you have to be like,
"Oh, [bleep]."
- There was one girl.
We was talking hard.
- Okay. For how long?
- Four months at least.
Then Nevaeh came back.
And then conversation was--
- And you were hardly talking?
- Never talking.
Dude, I never talked--
- So, you'’ll drop a real girl
for Nevaeh in a heartbeat.
- In a heartbeat.
Because I'’m soft for her.
- Right.
How many pictures
do you think she'’s sent you
in the last eight years?
- Probably like eight to nine.
- Okay, so not a lot.
- Nah.
- I mean, I send that many
pictures usually in a week...
- Right.
- With my--with my girl.
- It'’s really--like I said,
it'’s really getting
to the point where, like,
the stress is starting
to, like, affect me.
Like, I'’m starting to lose hair.
Like I said,
I recently was in the hospital.
They say it was dehydration.
I say it'’s stress.
- You think
you were in the hospital
because you'’re lovesick?
- Yeah.
It'’s time for a change.
- Which could be
starting a life together...
- Peeow!
- Or...
finding out
that she'’s been lying to you.
- I'’d rather know
than not know.
I feel like the time has come.
- Wow.
All right.
Sounds like at any moment
she could poof, disappear,
so, Max, we got work to do.
- All right.
- Let'’s get out of here.
- All right, good to see you.
- All right, guys.
I appreciate it.
- All right, man.
- I like this guy.
- I like him a lot.
- I want to see him
find love here.
I mean, for eight years, he'’s
been basically off the market...
- Right.
- Because he'’s in love with her.
- Man, and I hate to say it,
but, like, my gut is
it'’s a catfish.
- Check this out.
Boom.
both: Ohh! Whoa!
- Oh, my God!
- [laughs]
- All right, so.
- Alante and Nevaeh.
- Alante and Nevaeh have been
talking for eight years.
She comes and goes. She
disappears with no explanation.
Then she shows back up.
She makes plans to meet up,
then blows you off.
She'’s got all the makings
of a classic catfish.
But she seems to really care
about Alante.
Look, we got an email here
from Alante.
"Hey, guys. This is the info
I have on Nevaeh.
"This is her number
that she texts me from now.
"This is the number I call her
on sometimes to talk."
Which is weird.
So, Nevaeh has two numbers.
One for texting
and one for talking.
"Here'’s a link to her Facebook.
"I also attached some pics
that she sent...
"so it'’s not a lot.
Good luck."
- Cheers.
- All right,
let'’s do
a little picture search.
[exhales sharply]
- Did we get something?
- Ooh--ah--no.
- Ugh.
- Here we go. Come on. Come on.
[inhales sharply]
No, we got nothing.
- Ugh.
- Well, there'’s more pictures
on her Facebook page
that we could download.
- That'’s true.
- Save. Save.
Save.
- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- Hold on.
Let'’s run some new pics in.
[dramatic music]
both: Oh!
- We got a hit!
We got a hit!
Click on one of these links.
- "I'’m getting closer to my--"
- This is her blog!
- Look. Instagram.
- Oh, boy.
So, this is Audrey.
- Boom.
- She'’s based in Brooklyn.
She'’s a journalist, blogger.
She'’s got 13,000 followers.
- Wow.
She'’s Insta-famous.
Oh, look.
There'’s one of the pictures
we saw, right there.
- Ugh, yeah, that'’s it.
- Yeah.
- This girl is definitely
who'’s in the photos.
- Yeah.
- We found the mask.
- Right.
Now we need to figure out
who he'’s actually talking to.
And the only thing we know is
that this is
their Facebook page.
Let'’s see here. Says she lives
in Auburn Hills, Michigan.
345 friends.
Not a ton.
- No.
- But--
- It'’s a real amount.
- Right. It'’s like--
- Is there some way to see
how many of her friends are
mutual with Alante?
- I don'’t know.
- Really?
- Whoa.
- What is this hack?
Nevaeh plus?
- No. A-N-D.
Question mark, A-N-D,
equal sign.
- Question mark, and, equals,
and then Alante'’s username.
This should show us
mutual friends.
Whoa!
- What?
- This is awesome.
- Yeah.
- So, yeah, 46 mutual friends.
- Which is a lot.
- That'’s a lot,
for someone he doesn'’t know.
Are they all in Saginaw?
- Yeah, they are.
- They'’re all Saginaw people.
- All right, so,
let'’s just send a message
to all 46
of their mutual friends.
Really simple.
"How do you know Nevaeh?"
All right, so, "Hey Aletha...
could use your help.
"Wondering
how you know Nevaeh Watson.
Please get back to me
as soon as you can."
- Okay.
- All right. Let'’s just
fire them out.
- Anna [bleep].
- Dion.
- Marquaveous.
- Royon.
"Hey, Bo."
- Hey, Bo.
Curtis.
- Alexandria.
- Seiairah.
Qua.
[sighs]
- We have now sent out messages
to all 46 people.
- You know what time it is?
- Time to run
those phone numbers.
- You got it.
So, here'’s the phone number
they text on.
Okay. Here we go.
Iowa Falls?
- Something.
- Oh, that'’s a landline,
so it'’s probably a text app.
- So, it'’s, like,
an Internet number.
- All right, let'’s try again
with the other number
that they talk on.
- Mm-hmm.
- Okay.
- We gonna get something.
- Come on.
- Oh! We got a few hits.
- Ooh, whoa.
Christopher [bleep]
and then Latoya [bleep].
We know it'’s a woman that'’s been
talking to him on the phone.
- Well, who'’s Latoya [bleep]?
- Let'’s search Facebook.
- Oh, boy. That'’s--
- Saginaw! Boom!
- That'’s her.
- Boom!
- That'’s got to be her.
- Okay.
Let'’s see if he and Latoya have
any friends in common.
- New hack.
Question mark, "and," equals...
23 mutual friends.
- Wow. That'’s a lot.
This is a big clue.
This connects them.
- All right, so, look. We know
that the girl in the pictures
that'’s Nevaeh'’s been sending
to Alante
are not her.
- We found a number linked
to a woman in Saginaw
named named Latoya [bleep].
It'’s very possible
that this Latoya woman
could be the catfish.
- She is our prime suspect.
[computer dings]
- Oh! We got something.
- Oh! Oh, man.
Royon says "I called the number.
It went to voicemail."
All right,
let'’s give him a call.
[line trilling]
- Yeah, hi. Is this Royon?
- Roy-on. Sorry.
This is Nev from "Catfish,"
and I'’m sitting here with Max.
We'’re trying to help out someone
who lives in Saginaw,
which is--I believe is
where you live, right?
- And we saw that you'’re friends
with a girl named Nevaeh Watson.
- So, how do you know her?
- Oh.
- Whoa. Okay, so you guys have
been flirting, like,
in the last couple weeks.
- So, recently. Okay.
All right, man. Thank you.
- Not good.
- Whoa.
The fact that just
in the last few weeks
she just randomly hit up
some new guy
and has been flirting with him
and posting on his wall--
- She'’s hollering at guys
from Saginaw...
- Yeah.
- On the Internet.
- This is gonna break his heart.
- Hey!
- Ohh! What'’s up?
- Got news?
- I'’m in my all--
I'’m in my uniform.
- No. Not your personal--
- I'’m all black.
- Yeah.
Your black uniform.
- [laughs]
I got a little bit
of an update here.
- Oh, yeah?
- Oh, yeah.
I spoke to two people last
night, and--
- You spoke to someone
last night without me there?
- Well, I had the phone.
They called me.
[phone ringing]
Hello?
I'’m trying to find out
a little bit more
about this girl, Nevaeh.
- Both of them guys.
Both of them from Saginaw.
Both of whom have spoken
to Nevaeh on Facebook.
- She is manipulating
a whole town.
- Let'’s check in with Alante.
[line trilling]
- Hey. Good morning, Alante.
- We want to talk.
We'’ve got some interesting
information.
- Sure.
- Anything we should bring?
- Okay. See you soon.
- Let'’s head over.
- ♪Oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh, oh, ohh ♪
- There we go.
- Let'’s do it.
- Party'’s here!
- Hey, it'’s a party.
What'’s up?
- Nothing, how are you?
- Whoa! Got '’em.
- Got '’em.
- What'’s up, man?
Ooh, I see burgers.
- Yeah, it'’s burgers up here.
- Yeah, we got some over there.
- But we'’ve been waiting
on these hot dogs.
- Whoa!
- Right.
Got some for you.
- So, how--are you guys
just friends, or--
- No. That'’s my brother.
- Your brother?
- Oh, really?
- Yep.
That'’s my little brother.
- And I'’m his God-sister.
- Oh, nice.
- Yeah.
- What do you guys know
about why we'’re here?
- I know a little bit.
I actually can'’t wait for him
to finally just meet her
so he can get that closure
that he needs.
It'’s been a couple years.
- More than that.
- [laughing]
- Man, it'’s been, like,
almost eight years.
- That'’s a long time to still be
hoping and praying
and waiting for somebody.
Just get it over with already.
It'’s a long time
to string somebody along.
- Do you think she'’s real?
- I think she'’s somebody
that look like Roseanne.
[laughter]
- But what if it'’s a guy?
- She'’s a girl, of course.
- Well, how do you know?
- Sitting here listening to him
talk on the phone,
you can hear--
- You'’ve heard her voice
through his phone?
- I'’ve heard--yeah.
- Oh, okay, and it sounds
like a girl to you, too?
- Yeah.
- All right.
- I just hope she can cook.
[all laugh]
- We found some information
we want to talk to you about,
so we should go over that,
but we'’re getting closer
to figuring out the truth.
- Let'’s do this.
- All right.
All right.
Why don'’t we show you
what we found?
- Yeah, man.
- So, the first thing we did
was we did an image search.
We got a hit...
[dramatic music]
A website called Lulu Linden,
and it'’s a fashion blog...
- Hmm.
- By this girl, who says,
"Hi. I'’m Lulu Linden.
Well, actually I'’m Audrey."
- Holy [bleep].
- At the bottom,
there are links,
so we went to the Instagram.
- She'’s got 12.8 thousand
followers.
- And she'’s posting lots
of pictures.
♪♪
- That'’s mind blowing.
- Once we found this,
obviously, we knew,
all right, Nevaeh'’s not the girl
in the pictures.
- Holy [bleep].
- Now we need to figure out...
- Who she is.
- Who Nevaeh actually is.
- Right.
- So, we went back to her page.
But we noticed that you have
46 mutual friends
that are friends of yours
here in Saginaw.
- That are friends of--
- Anybody you recognize?
- Everybody.
- Oh, you know
all these people...
- All of them.
- For the most part.
So, why would she have
all these local Saginaw friends?
- Never paid attention to it.
- Well, we sent messages to
pretty much everybody on here,
and a couple people got back
to us.
Do you know a guy named Royon?
- Yeah. [bleep].
- Yeah.
- Yes.
He said a couple weeks ago
Nevaeh sent him a friend request
and they kind of
started flirting.
Like, they were talking.
♪♪
And I spoke to two other guys
last night on the phone
who had similar stories:
"Yeah, she friended me."
- So, there'’s somebody
going around out here
terrorizing people from Saginaw.
- Saginaw catfish.
- Yeah.
- [groans]
- Hang in there.
Let'’s get through this.
So, when we ran
the phone numbers,
a Saginaw number came up
with a Latoya [bleep].
♪♪
- Is this nothing?
- Never seen this person?
- Never.
- Well, we looked up Latoya.
- Ugh.
- She'’s got a Facebook page.
We looked to see if you have
any mutual friends,
and guess what.
- 23 of them.
- 23 mutual friends.
- This is crazy.
- Someone about the right age,
female, lives in Saginaw.
This could be
who you'’ve been talking to.
- ♪ The whispers of rejection
- I done seen some crazy stuff.
This just put the icing
on the cake.
- ♪ Float around in vain
- If you got to lie
about something so basic,
you would lie about anything.
- ♪ For if we stop the cycle
♪♪
- I'’m all [bleep] up now.
- ♪ We celebrate the pain♪
♪♪
- That'’s so crazy.
♪♪
[sighs]
Went this long.
♪♪
Oh, my God.
Why me?
[dog barking]
- I don'’t know what to do.
I don'’t know how to think.
Eight years.
I need answers.
- Should we call her?
- Call her.
[line trilling]
- I'’m sorry. The party
you are trying to reach
has not set up voicemail on--
- Let'’s send a text.
"Please give me a call
when you--
Thanks."
[text whooshes]
All right.
- We'’ve sent a message.
We'’ve called.
That'’s about as much
as we can do right now.
Ball'’s kind of in her court.
[somber piano music]
You gonna be okay, man?
- I'’ll be all right.
♪♪
Probably.
- It'’s easy to kind of
imagine the worst now
because you'’ve only been
imagining the best.
Neither one is probably
entirely correct.
- Especially right now.
- Especially right now.
I think we'’re gonna...
head out.
- [sighs]
All right, guys.
- Hang in there.
Let us know if you hear anything
from her,
and if we hear,
we'’ll let you know.
- Got you.
- Okay.
♪♪
Whew.
Ugh.
He'’s in a dark place right now.
Now the big question though is:
will Nevaeh get back to us?
- Yeah.
- Or is she gonna freak out
and disappear forever?
- '’Cause she'’s a disappear-er.
- Right.
- We have no power
in this situation.
[phone rings]
- Uh-oh.
- Uh-oh.
- That could be her.
Hello?
- Who is this?
Yeah, no--this is Nev,
and I'’m with Max.
- Hi. Is this Nevaeh?
- Yeah. I'’m not sure
who I'’m talking to.
- Your name is Seiairah. Okay.
Do you know Nevaeh?
- Well, she'’s someone that we
reached out to on Facebook.
- Okay.
- Sure. Yeah.
Where should we meet you?
- Okay. Great.
We will meet you
whenever you say
and wherever you want.
Okay, thanks, Seiairah.
[line beeps]
Oh.
- It--
What?
That was really weird.
I'’m not sure
what to make of this,
and I don'’t want
to get Alante'’s feelings
any more jumbled up
than they already are,
so why don'’t we see
what she has to say
before we jump
to any conclusions?
- Now I'’m starting to feel
really creeped out by all this.
This could be a trap.
- Got a message from our girl.
- This is really sketchy.
- All right.
Hello.
- Seiairah?
- Yeah.
- I'’m Max.
- Hey, Max.
- Hey. Nev.
How are you?
- This is real. This is crazy.
- It'’s us.
So, you know Nevaeh.
How well do you know Nevaeh?
- We'’re close friends.
- Do you know Alante?
- Yes, I know Alante.
- You do?
So, you know that Nevaeh has
been talking to Alante
for a long time?
- Yes.
- Because we know that Nevaeh
hasn'’t been telling
the whole truth.
We don'’t know exactly how much
she'’s been lying about,
but we know that she'’s not
the girl in the pictures.
But I'’m willing to guess
there'’s more
that we probably don'’t know
about her.
- Yeah, there'’s more.
- Are you Nevaeh?
- No.
- Why are you talking to us?
- We'’ve been friends
for a very long time,
but I feel like
I'’m in the middle of everything.
I want her to come clean...
- Okay.
- That she'’s been
catfishing people.
- I mean, I understand you
having a hard time,
because you don'’t want
to rat her out,
but the jig is up.
She knows we'’re in town
looking for her.
We tried to message her
and call her,
but she didn'’t answer
and she hasn'’t responded.
So, do you have
any sort of information
or suggestions on how we can
maybe get in touch with her?
- I can call her for you
and see if she want to meet
with you guys.
- Yeah. Can you call her and...
- Sure.
Yo. What you doing?
Mm. You heard
"Catfish" was in town?
- Why can'’t it be her?
- It could be.
- It'’s time to come clean, boo.
- This is weird and sketchy
and amazing
all at the same time.
- She said meet her
at Ojibway Park in a hour.
Ojibway Park.
- Okay, well, I guess--
- Thank you?
- Yeah. That--
you helped us a lot.
- [laughs]
- Nice to meet you.
- We'’ll take it from here.
- You too.
- Thanks.
- All right.
See you later, Seiairah.
- See you.
- Well, let'’s go
and tell him what we know...
- All right.
- And then go and meet Nevaeh.
- Yeah. We don'’t have
a lot of time.
[phone line trilling]
- Hey, buddy.
- Can we come over and download
you on what'’s been happening?
- All right.
We'’ll see you in a sec.
- What up?
- How you feeling?
- I'’m all right.
- Yeah?
- Come on in, guys.
- We'’ve got some updates.
- Yeah. So, right after we left,
I got a phone call,
and they were like, "Hi,"
and she said, "Can we meet?"
- So we just met her.
- We just met this girl.
Now, she says she knows you.
Do you know a girl
named Seiairah?
- Yeah. Yeah, okay,
I know who you'’re talking about.
- Who is she?
- Trying to think
of how I can say this.
She'’s--on the crush list.
- She has a crush on you?
- Yes.
- Hmm. Little young.
- Yeah.
- But she'’s cute.
So, I'’m not sure what your...
- She'’s all right.
- Hang-up is on that.
- Yeah.
- Anyway, Seiairah said
she knows Nevaeh.
So, she wanted to help us,
so she called her.
And then came back and said,
"Okay, Nevaeh said
she'’ll meet you,"
so if you want to come with us,
we'’ll bring you.
- Mm-hmm.
I want to see now.
- All right. Let'’s go.
- This is it.
- Ooh-ee.
- That--you spent the last
eight years talking to someone
and you'’re gonna meet them
for the first time.
- I think y'’all holding out
on me.
- No.
- I think that--
Seiairah was acting
kind of the weirdest.
- It could still be Seiairah.
- Wow.
- I mean, it could be Latoya.
That could be her.
- Or we don'’t know who it is.
- Oh, yeah, this is
a sticky situation right here.
Starting to bum me out now.
We getting closer.
- Yeah.
It'’s right here on our left.
- Wait, I ju--
- There it is.
- No escape.
- [laughs]
- Oh, here'’s a parking lot.
There'’s a bunch of cars
over here.
I don'’t see people, though.
It'’s weird, right?
They'’re all just in their cars.
This is where she told us
to meet her.
- All right. You ready?
- I'’m ready.
- Eight years leads up
to right now.
- All right. Let'’s do this.
- Let'’s do this.
[dramatic music]
- Over there.
- Let'’s check it out over here,
guys.
- There'’s someone waiting
over there.
- Is there?
- Well, there'’s someone
on the dock there
with their back to us.
- Oh.
- Oh, yeah. There is.
- That looks like a...
- Yeah.
- Potential catfish
straight ahead.
- Looks like a woman.
- It doesn'’t really look
like Seiairah.
- Is that Latoya?
I can'’t see their face.
- This is very mysterious.
- Is that--
- Hello.
[dramatic music]
Hello.
- Hi again.
- We meet again.
- Hi. Yeah.
- So, how--you guys just
friends, or--
- I'’m his God-sister.
- God-sister.
- Oh, nice.
- Yeah.
I actually can'’t wait
for him to finally
just meet her.
- Um.
- So...
It was you the whole time?
- Mm-hmm.
- Why, though?
- It was just supposed
to be a lesson
that needed to be learned.
When you told me about Seiairah,
I told you from the jump
I didn'’t think
that that was a good idea.
- Are we talking
about Seiairah we just met?
So, you got to fill us in here.
- Seiairah told me
she had a crush on Alante,
and I told her not to pursue it.
- Why?
- Because you'’re my friend.
That'’s my brother. I don'’t want
to be in the middle.
So, I gave her her proof
that you were talking
to other people on Facebook.
- Ugh.
- I'’m not saying that
that'’s not what happened...
- Mm-hmm.
- But it feels like
you didn'’t want
some other girl
to be with Alante
because you wanted
to be with Alante.
- No. Not at all.
That'’s it.
That'’s my brother.
- Well, he'’s not your brother.
You'’re not actually related.
- No. Not blood-related, no.
- Right.
But you'’re very close,
and he'’s your God-brother.
- Yes.
- At what point
did you make a fake profile,
decide to name it Nevaeh--
- I had already made it.
- Okay.
- So, it was
just something originally
that me and all my friends did
in high school,
because I had some friends
who were, you know,
"Hey, add my boyfriend,"
or "Add this person,"
so I added them
as Nevaeh'’s friend,
and immediately
they would poke her on Facebook,
direct message her,
and that right there
was your proof that
he'’ll engage in a conversation
with somebody else.
- So, why keep this Nevaeh
profile going so long
with Alante?
- Right, why keep it going
for eight years?
- Because after a while,
you know, I told Seiairah--I was
like, "You think it'’s time?"
You know, "Is it time for me
to just let it go?"
And Seiairah:
"No. Write him back."
- Why do you have her back
over his?
- I mean, because I'’m a female,
so I knew
what she was going through.
- This sounds like bull[bleep].
- I mean--
- I'’m gonna walk over there
with Alante
just to check in with him.
Why don'’t we--why don'’t we go
for a little walk?
Help me understand
a little bit.
When you were young,
you and Seiairah had something.
- She had something.
We were talking.
- Right.
- There wasn'’t no touching.
- She had a much bigger crush
on you.
You were the older guy.
- I was the older guy.
- Okay.
But did--did you ever
do anything to make her feel
like you were actually dating?
- No.
- No.
- It just had to be
a young state of mind.
- So, yesterday when I asked you
if you had been in the room
or if you had spoken
to Nevaeh before,
did you make that up?
- One time, I had been
in the room. I was on one side
of the room--
Alante was on the couch.
And I'’m sitting there
talking to him, and, you know,
Alante was so caught up
in talking to her,
he didn'’t even pay attention
that I had gotten up.
- [exhales sharply]
Wow.
- Eight years.
That [bleep] crazy.
That [bleep] starting
to tear my eyes up.
[somber music]
- You could'’ve just said to him
at some point,
"Hey, stop talking
to this Nevaeh girl,"
like, "It'’s me."
- I didn'’t want to just come out
and say, "I'’m fake.
I'’m not who you think I am."
I wanted to kind of
let it down gently.
- I don'’t even want
to talk to her.
There'’s nothing to talk about.
♪♪
- What you got?
- Not a lot.
Just he'’s really upset
and confused about it.
- ♪ Why would you want this
right now? ♪
♪ When you can see them
giving up? ♪
- I feel like it'’s probably best
you don'’t try
to contact him right now.
- Yeah, I'’ma just
give him his space.
I mean, I hope he forgives me,
but I just don'’t feel so good
about it right now.
So, I mean, if you want
to talk tomorrow, I'’m free.
- Okay.
All right, well, I don'’t know
what'’s gonna happen after this,
obviously,
but at least the cat'’s
out of the bag.
- All right. Bye.
- Thank you.
- That'’s rough.
- I don'’t buy her story.
Who knows
what the real truth is here?
You know what I mean?
- Ugh.
[upbeat music]
- Hey, guys!
- Hey.
- Hey, yo!
- Were you sleeping in there?
- No. I was in there
watching "Catfish."
- How you feeling today, buddy?
- I'’m good.
- Well, you didn'’t say much
yesterday, obviously.
- I felt like I just did
what I had to do
not to be the
psychopathic-looking person.
- Right.
- You know,
I got some questions.
A lot of questions.
- Okay.
If it'’s cool,
we can call Ericka
and tell her
to meet us here.
[line trilling]
- Hello.
- Hey. It'’s Nev
and Max and Alante.
- How are you?
- We'’re okay.
We thought you could
come over here,
and we could all talk
a little bit more calmly
about this whole situation.
- Okay.
Thank you.
[light knocking on door]
- Ah, this is gonna be good.
Hope y'’all are ready.
- We'’re ready.
- Is security close?
- Hey.
- Hi. How are you?
- Good. How are you?
- Good.
- Come on in.
You okay?
- Yeah.
[sighs]
- Good to see you.
- Good to see you, too.
- Here--why don'’t you sit here?
- Okay.
Maybe, Alante,
if you want to start.
- Uh...
pretty much why?
The whole Seiairah thing.
- Mm-hmm.
- What the [bleep]?
Like...
in order for you to be
feeling some type of way,
she had to really be
in a relationship with me?
- She liked him.
But my thing is this:
if you play me,
I'’m going to get you
when you least expect it.
If you hurt me,
I'’m gonna hurt you.
It might not--
- Did Alante hurt you?
- Uh-uh.
- Well, you remember the dude
that lives around
the corner from me?
- Yep.
- That'’s your friend.
You knew your friend
was a dog,
and you ain'’t tell me.
I'’m your sister, right?
You didn'’t tell me
that he was a dog.
- So what happened,
you were dating someone?
- I was in a relationship
with one of his friends,
off and on
for about seven years.
And he told him
that he didn'’t think that
the relationship was
that serious,
but yet Alante
never told me that,
"Hey, he not really into you."
I felt like because of the type
of bond that we had,
maybe you would have understood
where I was coming from,
just as a female.
- I don'’t know what
Tyler Perry movie you watched
and got that idea from, but...
- But you knew
that he was--
- But he strung me along
for 7 1/2 years--
- I shouldn'’t have had
to tell you. He showed it.
- But how was
I supposed to know?
He didn'’t start showing it
until later on.
Time had already
been invested.
- I hope you had fun doing it,
'’cause, uh--
- I hope at the end
of the day you still under--
you understand
what was going on,
and you'’re not.
- No, I never took--
- Whoa, wait, Ericka.
- You don'’t.
- Ericka, wait.
You'’re obviously, like,
very angry
and very hurt
by the way you feel
the world has treated you.
I mean, the truth is that,
like, you'’re not entirely
being honest with yourself
for why you did this.
- It'’s been [bleep] years.
Like, how do you explain
something like this?
- I mean, I kind of just--
I didn'’t--I didn'’t think
about the aftermath.
I didn'’t mean
for it to go this far.
I just, you know, I got
so caught up and wrapped up
in being Nevaeh.
I actually liked it.
I did.
Because I have been told that,
"Oh, you'’re pretty
for a dark-skinned girl."
"You'’re pretty
to be kind of chunky."
"You'’re pretty to be short."
But Nevaeh'’s confident.
She'’s pretty.
She'’s light.
She models.
Everybody wants her.
And I had to remember
it'’s not that they want me.
They want her.
But he didn'’t deserve
to get strung along
for that long.
I thought that, you know,
he would say,
"You kind of just pop
in and out of my life.
I don'’t have time
for that instability."
I wanted him to end
the relationship with Nevaeh,
but, you know,
I would go away,
and then when
he would leave a message
I would hear that
sincerity in his voice.
"Are you okay?
I was just checking in on you."
And I'’m like, "Okay,
I got to tell him,"
you know,
"that I'’m all right."
And so that'’s why
I let it carry on so long.
It wasn'’t necessarily
about you.
It was the inner problems
and the inner issues
that I needed to work on
as myself.
I feel like I just lost
my best friend behind this.
And was it worth it?
No.
- There'’s definitely
no friendship.
You could hit the lottery
for Mega Millions tomorrow,
and I wouldn'’t give
a [bleep].
- It'’s--
it'’s going nowhere.
It'’s going nowhere.
- Pretty much.
- I said I'’m sorry.
That'’s all I can say.
So, it was nice meeting you.
- Nice to meet you, too.
Take care, Ericka.
- ♪ Just try to survive
- Ericka.
I know it'’s tough.
- Thank you.
- You did the right thing.
Okay?
- I feel so [bleep]
about it, though.
♪
I love him to death.
That'’s the closest thing to me.
- Hopefully over time
it'’ll get better.
Stay strong.
- Thank you.
♪
- Well, that'’s sad.
- For who?
- For everyone.
- You can'’t play
with people like that.
It is what it is.
My next move:
work on myself.
I'’m gonna be 25.
- ♪ It'’s best left alone ♪
- Pretty sure there'’s
someone out there for me.
[phone line trilling]
- Hello?
- Hey, how are you?
- You guys.
- Wow, you guys are
in the same room.
- Yeah.
- What'’s that about?
- [sighs][laughs]
- So, after you guys left,
I ended up moving.
- Alante'’s actually
staying the weekend with me.
- Wai--wait a second.
- Whoa, what does that mean?
- We'’ve talked
and we'’re actually
working on our relationship.
- Relationship as friends?
- Yes.
- Friends with benefits?
- [exhales]
- No, no, no.
- [laughs]
- The way we left off,
it was such a negative note.
I didn'’t want
to leave it that way.
- I was mad, huh?
- We'’re not even gonna go there.
- [laughs]
- I always told him,
you know,
"If you need me, I'’m here."
His dad just passed away,
so that'’s why he'’s here.
- This the first time
since the funeral I been back.
- You all right?
[somber music]
- Yeah, I'’m good.
- Sorry to hear that, man.
- Thanks, man.
You know, I'’m dealing with it.
- I knew,
now my friend needs me,
and we didn'’t even mention it.
It was just, you know,
"Hey, I'’m here if you need me.
- We been friends for so long,
and then when my pops passed,
I needed a shoulder.
- Let'’s go, buddy.
Let'’s go, let'’s go.
- I had time
to think about this,
and, you know,
I ain'’t the type of guy
to be mad at someone forever.
As a man, you know,
you gotta look past some things.
- And as a woman,
you gotta be able
to admit when you was wrong.
- Hoo-hoo!
- [laughs]
- Ooh, this gonna be the best
spaghetti you'’ve ever had.
- What about you, Ericka?
How are things going with you?
- I actually found that
I'’m gonna have a baby.
- Poof.
- Whoa!
- What? Who'’s the guy?
- The mailman.
- [laughs]
- Don'’t tell nobody.
- Wow, I should go into
delivering mail.
- [laughs]
- Can we see your belly though.
Do you have a belly?
- A little one.
- Oh, yeah, there it is.
- Oh, okay.
I'’m so happy to see that
you guys are friends again.
I know that, like you said,
you'’ve got a long friendship
and it means a lot
to both of you.
- It'’s just part of my charm.
I'’m lovable.
People can'’t stay mad at me
too long.
- Yeah, have a great
rest of your weekend,
and good luck with everything.
both: Bye, guys.
- See ya.
- [laughs]
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