Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 6, Episode 18 - Nicole & Nicole - full transcript
For years, Nicole has had her pictures stolen to make fake profiles, one of which has been catfishing lovelorn, 27-year-old Ryan for 10 years. Is this a random internet troll or do Ryan and Nicole have a common enemy?
- People started using
her pictures
and making other profiles.
- I was walking and this guy
literally came up
and just, like, grabbed me
and he was like,
"Hey, where did you go?
Like, we were
talking for years."
And I'm like,
"I don't know who you are."
- You kind of have to make her
feel what it felt like
to have someone
fake their identity.
You see someone?
- There's somebody walking way,
way down there.
- What?
- Holy [bleep].
[dramatic musical sting]
- Ahh.
[giggles]
Ahh.
Oh, my goodness.
Oh!
Man, I thought you had that.
- I did, too.
- All right.
Well, hopefully you can have
a softer touch
with the next hopeful.
- I don't.
I generally don't have
a soft touch, so.
- All right, well, let's see.
Ooh.
Riot--Nicole Riot.
"My Life is an Online Riot.
Hey, Nev and Max.
"I can't believe I'm writing
you guys, but here it goes.
"My name is Nicole Riot, and
I live in Salt Lake City, Utah.
I'm 25 years old,
and for the past nine years
my identity has been used
to catfish other people."
- Wow.
- So, she--
- She's a mask.
- A lot of people
use her pictures.
"When I was 16,
I joined Myspace,
and I was on it all the time."
- ♪ All brought up on my own ♪
- "I had thousands of followers
from all over the world
and was really open
about myself and my life."
- ♪ Got to keep my mind
at ease ♪
- "My online friends
started telling me
"that they had seen my photos
on other Myspace profiles.
These were obviously fake."
- ♪ Got to keep my mind
at ease ♪
- "And I started being
called a catfish.
That's when things
became too much."
- Don't call me a catfish, now.
- "Strangers would
message me believing
"I was someone else
and accuse me of lying to them.
"They believed that they were
having an online relationship
"with me, sometimes for years
"and were pissed that
I had disappeared on them.
"I was paranoid, and it started
to affect me in real life.
"I was dating someone
at the time,
"and this whole thing
ended up breaking us up.
"A couple of years ago,
I joined Facebook
"and discovered
there were fake profiles
"of me on there, too.
"But this time it was worse.
They were using my photos
and the name Nicole Riot."
- So, they were using her
real name, too.
- Right, wow.
- That's crazy.
- "I'm just tired of this,
"and I want to take
my identity back.
I think you guys might be the
only ones who can really help."
Wow.
- That's a pretty intense story.
What a past.
- All right.
Let's call this girl
and find out a little bit more.
Here we go.
Ringing.
Hello.
- Hey.
- Hey.
- How's it going over there
in Salt Lake?
- It's awesome.
It's actually nice
weather today, so.
- Do you like it there?
[crickets chirping]
- Does anybody like it here?
It's all right.
- We saw your email.
A lot of questions.
So, just sort of tell us
how this all got started
and give us
a little bit more detail.
- Okay, well, it all started
when I was 16
and made a Myspace,
and I used to have
thousands of followers.
- Okay, but you're not, like,
a social media star.
You're not, like,
an Instagram model.
- No, I'm definitely
not a model.
I don't post, like, scandalous
photos or anything, so.
- But you did achieve some level
of kind of social media fame
and you had a lot of pictures
up there,
and so anyone could have
just kind of stolen pictures
from that account
to then use them later.
- Yeah.
- When you first went on Myspace
and kind of shared
a lot of your life,
what was the thinking
behind that?
Were you just bored with life
in Salt Lake City?
- It was kind of
like that, yeah.
Like, I just wanted to be
out there more, I guess.
I was not out when I was 16,
'cause, like, it's Utah.
So I didn't come out
to my parents
till, like, two years ago.
- Oh, wow.
- Yeah.
They're, like, super-LDS
and no.
You know?
- So, you're LDS--Mormon.
So, I imagine you had to keep
your sexuality under wraps
for most of your
young adult life.
- Yeah.
- So, one of these profiles
or a couple of these profiles
got you into hot water
with your ex-girlfriend?
- Mm-hmm.
- What happened?
- She found some
other profiles on Facebook
and they were using
the exact same name as mine.
So, she kind of
automatically assumed
that I made other profiles
to talk to other people,
and we would fight
about it a lot.
And it just kind of blew up
in my face.
- How long were you
dating her for?
- A few years.
Like, two or three years.
- Wow, wow.
- Yeah.
- So, that was a pretty serious
relationship that got broken up.
- Yeah, and I feel bad for,
like, these other people,
you know,
who think they're dating me.
It's not cool.
- Yeah.
- I want to know, like,
what you can do
to help me, you know?
- I think we can figure it out.
- Yeah.
We'll figure out something out.
- Yeah.
- All right, Nicole.
We're gonna meet you
in Salt Lake City.
We're gonna figure out
how to fix this.
- It's gonna be a riot.
- And--yeah.
- All right, let's do it.
- All right.
See you soon.
- Okay, cool, thank you.
both: Bye.
- Bye.
- All right, Salt Lake.
♪ ♪
- All right.
We've made it to the airport.
- ♪ Jumping back to beginnings
when it all kicked off ♪
♪ When we all were lost,
and I can't help grinning ♪
♪ I just wanna be back then ♪
♪ I just wanna be
back then ♪
♪ I just wanna be back then ♪
- Beautiful Salt Lake.
- Let's go and meet Nicole.
Get to the bottom of this.
[knocking]
- Hey, whoa, what's up?
- Hi, what's up?
- Hello.
- This is my roommate, Tyson.
- Tyson, oh, I'll say hi to--
- Oh, I'm Nicole.
- Hey, hello, I figured--
- I'm like, "come in."
- Based on our video chat.
- Hi.
- Hey, Nicole.
How are you?
- Tyson, good to meet you.
- Tyson.
- Hey, how are you, man?
- Nice to meet you.
- Max.
- Nice to meet you, Max
Sit down, guys.
- How do you guys
know each other?
- We've been best friends for,
like, nine years.
- Oh, wow.
- Yeah, it's been a long time.
- Since high school?
- I was actually working at
a haunted house, and he came
through with one of his friends
and then came back through
to get my number.
- So, did you guys ever go out?
- No.
- No, no, 'cause I'm gay.
- Right, you're gay.
- So, you've been around
for Nicole's whole online saga.
- She's had this going
on since she was young.
You know, when she was,
like, 16, 17,
there was like
four people named Nicole Riot
on Myspace alone,
taking all of her pictures,
using her status updates
and everything.
It's been going on
for a long time.
- Mm-hmm, it's taken, like,
relationships from me.
It's crazy--there was,
like, even a few years ago
at Gay Pride--I was walking
and this guy literally came up
and just, like, grabbed me
and he was like, "Hey."
And I was just like,
"Who the [bleep] are you?"
You know, like, and he just
like, "Where did you go?
Like, we were talking for years
and you just disappeared on me."
And I'm like,
"I don't know who you are."
He was just like,
"We were dating.
"You were sending me, like,
dirty pictures
"and all this stuff.
I was gonna move
across country for you."
I'm like, "It was not me."
- Wow.
- It happens all the time.
- Well, that's scary.
- Yeah.
- Good thing it was in daylight
at, like, a public place...
- Yeah, for real, like--
- And not, like, walking home
after some, like, night out
and he was drunk.
Like, who knows?
- Yeah, I could have been, like,
kidnapped or something.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, I was scared.
I had, like, a group of friends
with me and stuff, like.
- So, are you, like, afraid
for your life now?
- Kind of, yeah.
I don't really go out very much.
I'm, like, pretty reserved.
Like, I don't let people
in very easily.
He's basically my only friend.
- Nicole used to be
really outgoing, okay?
It's just not the same anymore.
Like, when we're out at a club
or something,
it's really hard
for her to open up
and really be
who she really is, you know?
Who I know she is.
- Clearly Tyson's
seen the effects.
I mean, you've lost...
- Yeah.
- Confidence in sort of
being yourself.
It's, like, how do you
comfortably put yourself
out there and own your identity
when people are
literally stealing it?
- Right, I mean,
it happens a lot.
- Well, I mean, is there anyone
who is, like,
specifically active right now
and, like,
"I want this person taken down."
- Yeah, I did find one, like,
a few months ago.
Like, I found this profile
on Facebook.
And I, like, looked through
it all, and I'm like,
"What the hell?"
It really pissed me off
and I, like, wrote them,
and I was like,
"Hey, you're using my photos
and my name."
And, like, they're like,
"Obviously we're not
"the same people.
Like, we're using
different photos."
I'm like, "Yeah, because I was,
like, 16 in those photos."
And then they just blocked me.
So I kind of just,
like, gave up.
My whole body just kind of,
like, started heating up.
I just got really mad about it.
And I can't get on her.
You know, you could
probably find her.
- Yeah, let me see.
- Yes, this one.
I think it was that one.
- You guys want to see?
- So, this is
a Facebook profile.
"Name is Nicole or Nicky.
Get to know me and let's chat."
With pictures of you
from when you were younger.
- A long time ago, yeah.
- 200 friends.
Mostly guys.
And here are people
wishing her a happy birthday.
Yeah, so this is
a pretty active.
So, I think, like,
maybe this one, you know,
maybe we can get
in touch with her.
Track down and go with it.
- I mean, let's say
that we find them,
and we bring them
in front of you
and you tell them,
"I really am
asking you to stop."
- Mm-hmm.
- And maybe they see
your humanity
and recognize that they've been
doing something wrong.
But that's just one person.
- Yeah, it's true.
But at the same time, like,
it still feels like me
doing something about it.
- I think it would help you
a lot, dude.
I honestly do.
- Yeah.
It's kind of like me, like,
taking back my life.
That's what it kind
of feels like, you know?
- Let's see if we can't track
down whoever's behind it
and let you know.
- Sounds good to me.
- All right, let's get to work.
- Bye, guys.
- Have a good day.
♪ ♪
- Oh, man.
She's been silently suffering.
- Mm-hmm,
this is a problem.
Her last relationship
was ruined by the fact...
- Well, right.
- That catfish have ruined
her name.
It's affecting
her social life.
- Right.
- And her self-esteem.
- Yeah.
- Let's find her copycat,
try to get them to meet,
and hopefully she can
take her life back.
♪ ♪
- I actually have a little
surprise for us.
- Really?
- Yeah.
- What's this surprise?
- Okay.
Well, you know
that there is a version
of "Catfish"
that they're making in Brazil.
"Catfish Brazil."
♪ ♪
Because of
the MTV Movie Awards,
those guys are here.
- The Max and Nev from Brazil?
- Hmm?
- [speaking Portuguese]
- [speaking Portuguese]
- They haven't been doing it
for as long as we have,
but I think they probably
have to deal
with the same stuff
we deal with.
They're gonna help us
with the investigation.
- Hey, all right,
this is exciting.
- Oh, my God.
both: Hey.
- You're filming us.
- Hi.
- Hey, man.
- How you doing?
- Hey, man.
- [speaking Portuguese]
- Well, we kind of have
a match going on.
- Nev, Max.
- Pretty good.
Is this the camera you use
on the show?
- Mm-hmm.
- It's smaller.
- That's kind of nice.
- Let's see.
Wow, ours is bigger.
[laughter]
- All right.
So, here's the story.
There's a girl named Nicole.
When she was 16,
she got on Myspace,
and, for whatever reason,
people started using
her pictures and making other
Myspace profiles.
When Facebook came along,
she started to see that people
were still using her pictures,
but they were also
using her name.
- All right.
Let's see what we got.
We got an email from Nicole.
"Hey, guys.
"This is the fake profile
that I confronted,
"and it's nicole.riot.1.
"It's still active,
so maybe this is the one
all those people
were talking to."
All right, so, let me just
first show you the real Nicole.
- She's got a look.
- Yeah.
- Yes.
- And that's why I think people
are drawn to her
because, like,
she's very distinct.
- Let's just see how many
Nicole Riot profiles come up.
So, yeah, look at this.
Here's the old one.
Here's another one--that's four.
- That looks like
it could be her also.
Five--I'm not sure
if this is her.
- A lot of fakes.
- Jesus.
- Yeah.
- So, now let's go
to the fake profile--
and this is the one, obviously,
that she's known about,
and it's nicole.riot.1.
And she told us that
they've been using old photos,
which is crazy.
Like, they're using her
and her name,
but look at this.
It goes back to 2011.
It might even go back further.
- 2009.
- Wow.
Well, let's just see
what's on her "About" page.
- Okay.
Studied nursing in Cleveland.
- Cleveland.
- So, she likes a bunch
of musicians
and bands from Cleveland.
Demons Within's from Cleveland.
- That's also from Cleveland.
- Space Monkey.
I mean, most of this profile's
friends live in Cleveland.
- Cleveland seems to be the
epicenter of this person's life.
- I think we should maybe start
reaching out to friends.
- I will send him a message.
"Hey, Ryan.
We are making an episode--"
- There--Kyky [bleep].
- Cleveland.
- Perfect--who's this guy?
Went to Cleveland
Heights high School.
Lives in Cleveland.
- Yeah.
- Shawn [Bleep].
- Ohio.
- Lives in Cleveland.
All right.
We got a couple
messages out now.
- You want to do a image search
from the fake profile?
- Image one.
Whoa, what is this?
- It's the first
thing that comes up.
- The first thing that comes up.
- Oh, yeah--blog or something.
- Yeah.
- What is this?
- Wait, so all of her,
like, old photos
are weirdly stored on this?
- What?
- What?
- Look--it just keeps going.
- Oh, my God.
- Look at this.
- It takes forever.
- Wow.
- Oh.
[phone ringing]
- Hey.
- That was fast.
- We got our first call
from Ohio.
Hello?
- Shawn, yes.
Hey, man.
So, have you heard
of the show "Catfish"?
- Hey, all right, cool.
Well, so, we reached out to you
because you're friends
with Nicole Riot.
- And then did you, like,
follow up and say,
"Hey, what happened?"
- The profile of Nicole
that you interacted
with is not actually that girl.
- Well, thanks for calling us.
- All right, bye.
- It seems to be someone who's
very into the local music scene
in Cleveland.
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- That's what
we should do, yeah.
- All right, well, let's see
who else gets back to us.
- Thanks, guys.
- This has been a real treat.
- Yeah.
[chairs scraping]
- Good luck with season two.
- Yeah.
- Tchau.
- Yeah.
- Good luck.
- Well, I feel like
we're getting
a little closer
to figuring this out.
All signs point to Cleveland.
- Oh.
- Hey, what is that?
- Getting a call.
- Ooh, Cleveland.
- Hello?
- Yes, this is Nev and Max.
We make the show "Catfish."
We are doing an episode
that involves
your friend Nicole Riot.
- Do you know Nicole?
- Oh, really?
- Whoa.
- Did you guys
ever talk on the phone?
- Did you guys try to meet up?
- That's crazy.
So, are you, like,
hopelessly in love with her?
- You live in Cleveland
obviously, right?
- Were you ever convinced that
she lives in Cleveland?
Does she seem to know
Cleveland and, like,
talk about things
that are Cleveland-specific?
- If we came to Cleveland,
do you think
you could meet up with us
and kind of talk
about this a little bit more?
'Cause, like you, we're trying
to find out more about Nicole.
We could use your help.
- All right, cool,
we'll probably get there
sometime tomorrow.
We'll text you
and try to meet up.
- Thanks, man.
- See you soon, bye.
- All right, bye.
- Whoa, whoa.
- Uh-oh.
- So, this guy's been
talking to her for years.
- In a romantic way.
He's in love with her.
- She's been
stringing him along.
Well, this guy sounds like
he's our strongest lead
right now.
- She's in Cleveland?
- For sure.
So, we got to go to Cleveland.
- Let's go to Cleveland.
[knocking]
♪ ♪
- Hey.
All right.
- How are you?
- How are you?
- Good to see you.
- Come on over.
- All right.
We got lots to discuss.
All right.
- All right.
- So, yesterday we went
and we looked
to see what we could find.
And we actually had some help.
They make a version
of "Catfish" in Brazil,
and there's, like,
two guys who host that show.
They met us yesterday.
- That's awesome.
- And actually helped us
with the investigation.
- Why don't we show you
what we found?
- Okay.
- Now, this is interesting.
We did an image search.
We got some hits.
And check this out.
There's a page that has
all of your photos.
- Myspace photos.
- It just goes on.
- These are all Myspace photos?
- Mm-hmm.
- But look at this.
This is, like, crazy.
It's like an archive
of all of your Myspace photos.
- That was weird.
We've never seen that before.
- I don't even have
any of these photos.
That is really weird.
I don't even know
what to think about that.
- Yeah, it's also messed up
because people can now
still find those pictures...
- Yeah.
- And, like,
make new fake profiles.
- Yeah.
- But the profile
that really seems concerning
is the one that you messaged
and then blocked you.
- Mm-hmm.
- So, we went to that profile.
So, here it is.
And the first profile picture
that's up was posted
in December of 2009.
- Yeah, that's a long time ago.
- Yeah.
- That's crazy.
- So, that was the first thing.
We were like, "Whoa."
Then, when we went
through the friends--
and a lot of them
are from Cleveland.
So, we reached out
and asked them to call us.
So, this was the first person
we talked to--Shawn [bleep].
And we asked him
how he knew "Nicole Riot."
He said, "Oh, yeah.
"She, you know,
hit me up on Facebook.
"We had a show coming up, and
she messaged me asking about,
like, getting tickets."
- Okay.
- Do you have any, like,
old friends or enemies
that moved to Cleveland,
like, after middle school or?
- No, mm-mm, no.
I don't know anybody there.
[sighs]
- The second person who called
us back was this guy, Ryan,
and he lives in Cleveland.
He said that he met Nicole
10 years ago.
Never talked on the phone
but messaged a lot.
He lives in Cleveland.
She lives in Cleveland.
But that over the last 10 years
she's kind of come in
and out of his life
and he's been
waiting for the day
when they finally meet because
he's kind of in love with her.
- That really sucks.
- Yeah.
- That's really sad.
- He's kind of what you said
you were afraid of.
- Mm-hmm.
- A guy who's been roped into
a fake profile
using your pictures.
I mean, this guy's 10 years
deep into a love affair
with someone
who is pretending to me you.
- Yeah--the fact that they've
never talked on the phone
to us usually means
that it might actually be a guy.
- Oh, man, okay.
- Well, we didn't tell him that
she wasn't the real you.
- Oh, [bleep].Okay.
- Yeah, we didn't say anything.
- Because we wanted
to tell him in person.
- Oh, man, okay.
- Well, even though we obviously
didn't start this episode
to help this guy
Ryan, like...
- Mm-hmm.
- We might be able to sort of do
two things at once here
which is have him help us
find out a little bit more
about your fake account
and then also tell him
the truth so he knows.
- Yeah, he deserves that.
- So, we asked Ryan
to help us out.
I mean, we got to roll
the dice here.
Everything we have tells us
to go to Cleveland.
- Okay.
- How do you feel
about doing this?
- I'm a little anxious
but it'll be good.
I'm ready for it.
I want to tell them what
it's actually done to me.
How much I've hid from myself
because of what they've done.
It's not cool to, like, hurt me
and hurt other people, like,
I'm just ready.
- Okay, so, we're actually
doing it.
- Cleveland.
I mean, we're kind of
going out on a limb here.
How do we deal with Ryan?
Because he's in touch
with the catfish.
Also, he's the only person
that happens to have
her phone number.
- Right, he can give us
more information
but, like, he doesn't know
anything, though.
- Wow.
- I mean, when this guy
sees you, he's gonna flip out.
- I don't even know.
It's gonna be crazy.
- Yeah, this is a big deal.
We should tell him in person
before he meets you.
- That's probably a good idea.
- Yeah.
- Why don't you text Ryan,
see if he can meet up
with us tomorrow morning.
- "Hey, Ryan.
We are heading to Cleveland
"right now and will
land tonight.
Would you be cool to meet us
at our hotel in the morning?"
- "Yeah, that works,
and excited to meet tomorrow."
- "Okay, awesome.
See you soon."
All right, done.
We have a date with Ryan.
- Oh, man.
- All right, we're here.
You ready?
- Yeah.
- Travel montage.
Fan me?
- ♪ On the way,
feeling brand new ♪
♪ Whoa, oh, oh, oh ♪
♪ Dancing high on the clouds
doing what we do ♪
- ♪ Say hello ♪
- ♪ Hey! ♪
- ♪ Say hello ♪
- ♪ Hey! ♪
- ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪
- ♪ Say hello ♪
- ♪ Hey! ♪
- ♪ Say hello ♪
- ♪ Hey! ♪
- ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪
Break it down.
Break it down.
- ♪ Say hello,
say hello ♪
- So, Ryan knows we're here.
We're gonna meet up with him
in the morning
and formulate a plan.
- ♪ Hey! ♪
- Okay.
It's morning in Cleveland.
♪ ♪
- Thank you, mm-hmm.
- Yep.
- There he is.
- Mm-hmm.
- Guess who's downstairs
in the hotel restaurant?
- Ryan.
- Yep.
- He's here?
- He's here--what's up?
- How you doing?
- Wow, this is romantic.
- Under the lights.
- How you doing, man?
- Good, I'm Ryan.
- Hey, Ryan, I'm Max.
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
- Well, thanks for meeting us.
- No problem.
- You grew up here in Cleveland?
- Yeah.
- How did you end up in
a 10-year relationship
with Nicole on the Internet?
- 10 years ago she added me.
I'm like, "Cool, a hot chick."
But then we started talking.
But we never talked
on the phone.
So, it was all, like,
you know, text communication.
- Did you ever think, "Hey,
this might be a catfish"?
- Kind of sort of now
I'm thinking that, but.
- Here's why we're here.
We got a call from Nicole.
The real Nicole.
- Okay.
- Who lives in Utah.
And we were just in Salt Lake
City, and we met Nicole
and she told us
that for the past, like,
eight or nine years
there have been
a number of profiles
made of her
that have been out there
talking to people.
- Copycat.
- And unfortunately,
you're one of...
- [mutters]
- I'm so sorry.
♪ ♪
- Well, the real Nicole is gay.
She's not even into guys.
- ♪ Tap with wings for me ♪
- ♪ Do you love...? ♪
- It's definitely, like,
a big, like, letdown, you know?
Like a hit in the face.
Now I'm wondering
who I'm really talking to.
- Well, that's what
we want to find out.
So, we brought
the real Nicole with us
'cause she wants to try and tell
this person--whoever it is--
they need to stop
pretending to be her.
- Oh, wow.
- I'm gonna go upstairs,
bring Nicole down.
- Okay.
♪ ♪
[knocking]
♪ ♪
- Hello.
- Morning.
- What's up?
- How you doing?
- Good, tired.
- So, Ryan's downstairs.
- Okay.
- He's very sweet.
A little bummed, obviously.
But, yeah.
It'll be a little weird.
- Yeah, it's gonna be
a little awkward.
- But it's okay.
We're all there, so.
- Okay, yeah.
- You want to come down?
- Yeah, I'll come down.
- Okay, come on.
♪ ♪
- In the back of your mind,
were you like,
"Yeah, this girl's great
and one day
I'm probably gonna meet her"?
- Yeah.
- "That's my ticket."
- Yeah, 'cause, you know,
I pictured how, like,
we talked every day,
like, the vibes felt right.
So, I don't know.
Weirded out.
♪ ♪
- All right.
- Oh, my God, okay.
- Here she is.
- Hello.
- Hi.
- So, yeah, this is Ryan.
- Hi, I'm Nicole.
- Nice to meet you.
- Do you want a hug?
I'll give you a hug.
- Oh, yeah.
- [laughs]
♪ ♪
- So, is this weird?
- Maybe.
A little bit.
Yeah, I don't know what to say.
- I bet it like--I mean, like,
what does it feel like?
- Well, you're the real Nicole,
so, like, now I know you.
But now I want to know, like,
who I was, like...
- Yeah.
- Chatting up with.
- Weren't you, like,
suspicious that it
was a catfish?
Like, ever?
- Like, well, 'cause, like,
we had stopped talking for,
like, a little bit.
So, like, it honestly,
like, left my mind.
But now it's, like, it makes
sense for like it now, you know?
- Yeah, for sure.
Like, it's hurting
a lot of people.
And I don't like that
'cause I'm not that person.
- So, now we have
to sort of figure out
how to reel
this catfish in, I guess.
- Yeah.
- So, now we have to
sort of figure out
how to reel
this catfish in, I guess.
- Yeah.
- When was the
last time you texted?
- Maybe, like,
a week ago or something.
- We should try texting.
See if they'll answer.
- Yeah, I like that idea.
- Okay, okay.
Should we text from my phone
or something?
- Oh, yeah, you should text her.
Just say, like--
- Just say, "I," well...
- "We need to talk"?
I don't--I mean--
- I don't know what to type.
- Here, let Nev do it.
- Yeah, there we go.
Nev always needs to drive.
- " 'Catfish' reached out to me.
"I know you're not
the real Nicole
but would still love
to meet you."
- Should I send it?
- Yeah, that's good.
- Yeah.
Let's just see what happens.
- All right.
- Okay.
- Here we go.
- I'm, like,
staring at my phone.
I don't know if there's, like,
more than one person or, like.
- Yeah, same.
- Was there anybody that you
do know that has always had
a big crush on you?
- I have no idea.
- 'Cause it could be
someone that you've known.
- Hmm, I don't know.
[phone buzzing]
- Oh, we got a long response.
- Oh, long one.
- Oh, Nev.
- I was set.
- She's gonna be
bitching you out.
- "I'm ready to meet
if that's what you want."
- [Bleep] yeah.
- "Yeah, I'd love to meet up.
Are you free today?"
[phone beeps]
- Oh, wait, wait.
- Oh, what'd she say?
- Oh, God, what'd she say?
- "I'm free to meet this
afternoon at a place
called Garden
Hill View Park."
- All right.
Are we all gonna go?
- Mm-hmm.
- Right, team now.
- Yep, let me get this fish.
Yep, let's do it.
- ♪ I'm supposed to free you
of your mind ♪
♪ There's nothing to it, girl ♪
- You ready to do this?
- I'm, like, nervous.
- How do you feel, Nicole?
- I'm excited.
I'm ready to do this.
- ♪ I'm supposed to free you
of the good kind ♪
- Who have I been talking to?
- You kind of know.
- I have no idea.
- No, but you've been talking
to him for five years.
- Yeah, but I thought I knew.
I just don't remember.
Maybe, like, the convos,
you know?
- Do you have memory issues
in general?
[laughter]
- ♪ I'm supposed to free you
of your mind ♪
- My mind's probably, like,
blocking things out.
- 'Cause you're mad.
- Yeah.
- ♪ I'm supposed to free you
of your... ♪
- This is the park.
- ♪ I'm supposed to
free you of ♪
♪ I'm supposed to free you of ♪
♪ I'm supposed to
free you of ♪
- Oh, man.
- What is the under/over
on it being a guy?
- I mean, if we stick to
our rulebook, it's 100%, right?
- Right.
- All right.
Let's go, team.
♪ ♪
I don't see anybody.
Do you guys see anybody?
- Mm-mm.
- Nobody.
- Like a game of hide and seek.
♪ ♪
- Got nothing.
- There's somebody walking way,
way down there.
- What?
- Do you see someone?
♪ ♪
- It's a girl.
- It is a girl.
- Oh.
- Is it?
- Holy [bleep].
I...know her.
- You know this person?
both: Really?
- Holy [bleep].
I...know her.
- You know this person?
both: Really?
- Yep.
- Hi.
- Hello, obviously I was the one
running the fake profile, so.
- What's your name?
- Arica.
- Arica, Max.
- Nice to meet you.
- Do you guys know each other?
- Online, yeah.
- I added her as myself
on my Facebook page.
- Why?
- I think I was slowly making
that transition
to tell her
'cause I think the first thing
I said to you was like,
"Wow, that's crazy how people
are using your pictures."
That was to get her to accept,
like, my friend request
and me as a person,
and just eventually kind of come
clean about the whole situation.
And obviously I know Ryan.
♪ ♪
- Ryan.
- That's crazy.
I don't know what to say.
Oh, I did not
even recognize her.
- Yeah, I low-key dated
Ryan, like, 10 years ago.
- Yeah.
- Ryan, do you remember that?
- I remember that, but I didn't
recognize you walking up.
- Yeah.
- It's been a long time.
- You guys dated in high school?
- Yeah, like, we dated.
- We only dated for,
like, three weeks.
- Continue.
- Okay.
- So, really, the profile
got started is because
when me and Ryan were dating,
that was kind of
during the time my mother
was just not about,
like, relationships.
Can't talk to boys. Nothing.
So, we were told not
to talk to each other.
Like, no communication. Nothing.
Me being, you know,
head over heels kind of person,
I was like,
"I need to talk to him."
I, you know, was on Myspace.
I think I had Myspace
and Facebook.
And there was this,
like, account called,
like, Fake Busters
where they used to bust,
like, fake profiles.
Her pictures were one of them.
I mean, she had, like,
a YouTube video
saying she was real.
I was like, "Dang, like,
this is kind of, like,
the perfect person to use."
You know?
Someone wanted to call me out?
Well, hey, here's the YouTube
video saying,
like, I'm a real person.
- I was the pawn.
- But it kind of enabled me
to still talk to him
and him being kind of
receiving of it.
Other than that,
it's kind of been, like,
a one-and-done
kind of conversation
with other people.
- Glad I know that now.
- Well, we know
that you did reach out to, like,
other local Cleveland people.
- Yeah.
That profiles was kind of
the almost like
last word profile.
I mean, through the years of,
like, high school
and just, like,
bullying and all this,
you know, kind of just drama,
people would always block me
on my personal page
and, like, would say
whatever then block.
And I'm like, "Really?
Okay."
So, I just hop on as Nicole and,
you know, get my last word in
and then that was it.
- Why not just shut it off?
You can just
deactivate a profile.
- Right. Um, so--
- Why is it still up?
- I mean--
- 'Cause, like, using
her pictures and her name...
- Right.
- And then separately
as yourself,
like, being friends with them.
It's, like--
- It's kind of [bleep]
my life up in a way.
- Me personally--and
I'm not saying
that this isn't
as important as you--but
I had other things
going on in my life
that I was just kind of like,
"All right.
I'll get to this later," so.
- So weird.
- Do you guys have anything
more you want to say right now?
Nicole?
- I don't know--I'm so upset.
- I think they're pretty shocked
and they need to kind
of process all this.
Go back to the hotel
and maybe meet up tomorrow.
- What the [bleep]?
- It's so weird.
I didn't recognize her.
- I just saw her come up
the hill, and I'm like,
"I know this bitch."
- ♪ All these people,
they are so dark ♪
- Now it makes sense why it felt
like I was, like,
talking to someone
that, like--
- That you knew?
- Yeah.
'Cause she already knew me.
- Yeah, that's crazy.
- I guess she seemed emotionless
when she was, like,
saying sorry.
- She really hasn't
heard your side of it.
Like, today she told her side.
You guys didn't say anything.
- ♪ Running, running through ♪
- You kind of have to make her
feel what it felt like
to have someone
fake their identity
and how it closed you up,
'cause otherwise
what has she learned?
- Right.
[knocking]
♪ ♪
- Hello.
- Yo.
- How's your breakfast?
- What's up?
- Not much,
just hanging out.
- So, have you wrapped your mind
around everything
that happened yesterday?
- I don't know--I feel like her
apology was kind of bull[bleep],
and she was just
making up excuses
and I'm like I just don't
appreciate people trying to,
like, well,
first of all, use my photos
and then pretend
to be my friend.
- Right.
That's creepy and weird.
- She kind of just came in with,
like, this attitude like,
"Well, I get the last say."
And I'm like, "No. [Bleep] that.
I get the last say."
You know?
- Well, what do you have
to say on the last say?
- I want to explain to her,
like, exactly,
like, what it's done to me
and, like, how closed off I am.
- And do you have those words
somewhat prepared?
- I've been thinking
about them a lot.
- Okay.
- Yeah.
- Should we check in Ryan?
- I told him we were together
and meet downstairs.
- All right, the gang
is getting together again.
- Hey, man.
- Hey, what's going on?
- You ready?
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
- This'll be fun.
[knocking]
- Hey, guys.
- Hi.
- Hey.
- Hey, you can come in.
♪ ♪
- Okay.
- How do you feel
it went yesterday?
- I expected kind of
the reaction.
I expected the being speechless.
I expected, you know, so.
- Well, these guys have now
had a chance
to really wrap their minds
around what happened
and I think that they now
have some things to say.
- Yeah.
I think this whole thing
was complete bull[bleep],
and I think
it's all for attention.
I feel betrayed completely,
like, two different ways.
Like, you pretend
to be my friend
and then you used my photos.
You affected not just your life
but ours as well,
like, in a big way.
- Like, you seemed, like,
emotionless yesterday.
- I think
I was kind of emotionless
because I was trying not
to break down.
I almost cried a couple times,
and I don't know
if it was evident or not,
but I kind of just--
I tried not to make it
about me yesterday
even though it was
because I was trying
to get their reaction.
And I understand
the attention part.
It was--when I was younger,
I was very impulsive.
Like, I didn't think
about anything.
- What is this final word thing
and why are you bullying people
and being nasty to people
from an anonymous fake account
using her, I mean, that's--
- It's [bleep] up.
- I think what was going on
for me was,
I mean, I had came out
as bisexual, and,
you know,
I was in seventh grade.
I mean, I obviously
wasn't accepted, you know?
So, that was kind of when
the bullying started, you know,
so I think at that point it
was more just, like,
battling my mother, who,
you know,
was just very Christian.
She's also involved
in the school district I was at.
So, then it's my problem--
- But then I've gone through
that [bleep], too.
Like, my parents are LDS.
My mom works
for the school system, like,
I had to go through that, too.
- Yeah, I mean, I was just--
- I'm, like, shaking 'cause
I'm so frustrated right now.
It's just, like,
I don't feel bad for you
that you're crying or anything.
I don't feel anything for you.
- Yeah, I mean, I'm not
expecting anyone to feel bad.
This is--
- You could say whatever
you want.
Like, you stole her identity
and, like, you talked to, like,
other people doing it.
Like, all this, like,
talked to me and stuff.
It's, like, crazy.
- Mm-hmm.
- I haven't, like, seen you in,
like, 10 years.
It's like a movie but it's real.
- I'm just explaining to you,
like, what it is and, you know,
in a sense
what judgments you make
from there you have that right.
- I don't know--I just
don't think you know, like,
how it affects people.
Like, people [bleep] hate me
because of the [bleep]
that you and other people
have been doing.
Like, I have lost relationships
because of fake profiles.
I've lost friends.
I've lost myself
because I've had to hide myself
because people will start
attacking me
probably for [bleep]
like maybe you've done
or what other people have done.
- Right.
- Like, I used to be this
outgoing person and be able to,
like, talk to whoever
and now I'm, like, I hide.
I stay in my house,
and I go to work.
That's it.
Like, it sucks.
And it's not okay.
Like, I don't know.
I think you're [bleep] crazy.
Like, I'm not trying
to be a bitch, but.
- Yeah.
Like, I feel terrible, dude.
Like, I'm just sorry.
I didn't know.
Nothing I did to y'all was cool.
It was childish.
It was [bleep] up.
And I have problems, you know,
I'm still working
through problems, you know?
- I wish you the best 'cause
I don't want any negative
out of this, but, like,
I understand
you have your issues,
but it's not our problem for it.
- Right--I think,
at the end of the day,
it was just dumb,
and I'm really sorry
that it went on,
you know, this long, really.
I'm really sorry
it even started.
I'm really sorry
to both of you.
- Thank you.
- How do we know
now that you're going to be
moving in the right direction?
- The one step was getting rid
of the profile.
- When did you do that?
- I did that last night.
Yeah, I'm done with fake pages.
- I think, listening to you,
I hear you saying
that you want
to keep getting better
and so I'm hopeful for that.
- Yeah.
- All right, Arica, good luck.
- Thank you.
♪ ♪
- All right, how do you feel
about that?
- I feel better, like,
actually, like,
expressing what was bugging me.
- Good.
Well, you stood up for yourself.
- It definitely felt good
to fight back.
- I just hope, like,
all positive comes out of this.
Hopefully she handles stuff
with herself
like she says she's going to.
- I guess we'll see.
[line trilling]
- Hello.
- Hey.
- Hey, what's up?
- Wow, what's going on?
You look amazing.
- Oh, I miss you guys.
- Aww.
- We had fun.
- Yeah, it was fun.
- Are you more yourself
than ever now, or?
- Yes, everything's changed.
I feel good being able to,
like, come out as myself
and not have to, like,
shelter myself, you know?
And being able to confront
at least one person,
like, really helped.
This has been
an amazing experience.
- Thank you guys so much.
- Have a great summer, bye.
- Okay, bye, you guys.
[line trilling]
- Hey.
- How you doing?
- I'm doing good.
How about you?
- Not bad.
- How did you feel kind of
after we left?
- Honestly, it was a big sigh
of relief because, you know,
it had been going on
for so long.
- I assume you're no longer
using the Nicole Riot
page, right?
- No.
That was deactivated and
hasn't been touched since, so.
Now it's time to just
learn from mistakes
and keep going on with life.
- Sounds good.
Good luck with everything.
- Thank you.
Thank you, guys.
- All right, bye, Arica.
- See you, guys.
1040
00:41:16.
her pictures
and making other profiles.
- I was walking and this guy
literally came up
and just, like, grabbed me
and he was like,
"Hey, where did you go?
Like, we were
talking for years."
And I'm like,
"I don't know who you are."
- You kind of have to make her
feel what it felt like
to have someone
fake their identity.
You see someone?
- There's somebody walking way,
way down there.
- What?
- Holy [bleep].
[dramatic musical sting]
- Ahh.
[giggles]
Ahh.
Oh, my goodness.
Oh!
Man, I thought you had that.
- I did, too.
- All right.
Well, hopefully you can have
a softer touch
with the next hopeful.
- I don't.
I generally don't have
a soft touch, so.
- All right, well, let's see.
Ooh.
Riot--Nicole Riot.
"My Life is an Online Riot.
Hey, Nev and Max.
"I can't believe I'm writing
you guys, but here it goes.
"My name is Nicole Riot, and
I live in Salt Lake City, Utah.
I'm 25 years old,
and for the past nine years
my identity has been used
to catfish other people."
- Wow.
- So, she--
- She's a mask.
- A lot of people
use her pictures.
"When I was 16,
I joined Myspace,
and I was on it all the time."
- ♪ All brought up on my own ♪
- "I had thousands of followers
from all over the world
and was really open
about myself and my life."
- ♪ Got to keep my mind
at ease ♪
- "My online friends
started telling me
"that they had seen my photos
on other Myspace profiles.
These were obviously fake."
- ♪ Got to keep my mind
at ease ♪
- "And I started being
called a catfish.
That's when things
became too much."
- Don't call me a catfish, now.
- "Strangers would
message me believing
"I was someone else
and accuse me of lying to them.
"They believed that they were
having an online relationship
"with me, sometimes for years
"and were pissed that
I had disappeared on them.
"I was paranoid, and it started
to affect me in real life.
"I was dating someone
at the time,
"and this whole thing
ended up breaking us up.
"A couple of years ago,
I joined Facebook
"and discovered
there were fake profiles
"of me on there, too.
"But this time it was worse.
They were using my photos
and the name Nicole Riot."
- So, they were using her
real name, too.
- Right, wow.
- That's crazy.
- "I'm just tired of this,
"and I want to take
my identity back.
I think you guys might be the
only ones who can really help."
Wow.
- That's a pretty intense story.
What a past.
- All right.
Let's call this girl
and find out a little bit more.
Here we go.
Ringing.
Hello.
- Hey.
- Hey.
- How's it going over there
in Salt Lake?
- It's awesome.
It's actually nice
weather today, so.
- Do you like it there?
[crickets chirping]
- Does anybody like it here?
It's all right.
- We saw your email.
A lot of questions.
So, just sort of tell us
how this all got started
and give us
a little bit more detail.
- Okay, well, it all started
when I was 16
and made a Myspace,
and I used to have
thousands of followers.
- Okay, but you're not, like,
a social media star.
You're not, like,
an Instagram model.
- No, I'm definitely
not a model.
I don't post, like, scandalous
photos or anything, so.
- But you did achieve some level
of kind of social media fame
and you had a lot of pictures
up there,
and so anyone could have
just kind of stolen pictures
from that account
to then use them later.
- Yeah.
- When you first went on Myspace
and kind of shared
a lot of your life,
what was the thinking
behind that?
Were you just bored with life
in Salt Lake City?
- It was kind of
like that, yeah.
Like, I just wanted to be
out there more, I guess.
I was not out when I was 16,
'cause, like, it's Utah.
So I didn't come out
to my parents
till, like, two years ago.
- Oh, wow.
- Yeah.
They're, like, super-LDS
and no.
You know?
- So, you're LDS--Mormon.
So, I imagine you had to keep
your sexuality under wraps
for most of your
young adult life.
- Yeah.
- So, one of these profiles
or a couple of these profiles
got you into hot water
with your ex-girlfriend?
- Mm-hmm.
- What happened?
- She found some
other profiles on Facebook
and they were using
the exact same name as mine.
So, she kind of
automatically assumed
that I made other profiles
to talk to other people,
and we would fight
about it a lot.
And it just kind of blew up
in my face.
- How long were you
dating her for?
- A few years.
Like, two or three years.
- Wow, wow.
- Yeah.
- So, that was a pretty serious
relationship that got broken up.
- Yeah, and I feel bad for,
like, these other people,
you know,
who think they're dating me.
It's not cool.
- Yeah.
- I want to know, like,
what you can do
to help me, you know?
- I think we can figure it out.
- Yeah.
We'll figure out something out.
- Yeah.
- All right, Nicole.
We're gonna meet you
in Salt Lake City.
We're gonna figure out
how to fix this.
- It's gonna be a riot.
- And--yeah.
- All right, let's do it.
- All right.
See you soon.
- Okay, cool, thank you.
both: Bye.
- Bye.
- All right, Salt Lake.
♪ ♪
- All right.
We've made it to the airport.
- ♪ Jumping back to beginnings
when it all kicked off ♪
♪ When we all were lost,
and I can't help grinning ♪
♪ I just wanna be back then ♪
♪ I just wanna be
back then ♪
♪ I just wanna be back then ♪
- Beautiful Salt Lake.
- Let's go and meet Nicole.
Get to the bottom of this.
[knocking]
- Hey, whoa, what's up?
- Hi, what's up?
- Hello.
- This is my roommate, Tyson.
- Tyson, oh, I'll say hi to--
- Oh, I'm Nicole.
- Hey, hello, I figured--
- I'm like, "come in."
- Based on our video chat.
- Hi.
- Hey, Nicole.
How are you?
- Tyson, good to meet you.
- Tyson.
- Hey, how are you, man?
- Nice to meet you.
- Max.
- Nice to meet you, Max
Sit down, guys.
- How do you guys
know each other?
- We've been best friends for,
like, nine years.
- Oh, wow.
- Yeah, it's been a long time.
- Since high school?
- I was actually working at
a haunted house, and he came
through with one of his friends
and then came back through
to get my number.
- So, did you guys ever go out?
- No.
- No, no, 'cause I'm gay.
- Right, you're gay.
- So, you've been around
for Nicole's whole online saga.
- She's had this going
on since she was young.
You know, when she was,
like, 16, 17,
there was like
four people named Nicole Riot
on Myspace alone,
taking all of her pictures,
using her status updates
and everything.
It's been going on
for a long time.
- Mm-hmm, it's taken, like,
relationships from me.
It's crazy--there was,
like, even a few years ago
at Gay Pride--I was walking
and this guy literally came up
and just, like, grabbed me
and he was like, "Hey."
And I was just like,
"Who the [bleep] are you?"
You know, like, and he just
like, "Where did you go?
Like, we were talking for years
and you just disappeared on me."
And I'm like,
"I don't know who you are."
He was just like,
"We were dating.
"You were sending me, like,
dirty pictures
"and all this stuff.
I was gonna move
across country for you."
I'm like, "It was not me."
- Wow.
- It happens all the time.
- Well, that's scary.
- Yeah.
- Good thing it was in daylight
at, like, a public place...
- Yeah, for real, like--
- And not, like, walking home
after some, like, night out
and he was drunk.
Like, who knows?
- Yeah, I could have been, like,
kidnapped or something.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, I was scared.
I had, like, a group of friends
with me and stuff, like.
- So, are you, like, afraid
for your life now?
- Kind of, yeah.
I don't really go out very much.
I'm, like, pretty reserved.
Like, I don't let people
in very easily.
He's basically my only friend.
- Nicole used to be
really outgoing, okay?
It's just not the same anymore.
Like, when we're out at a club
or something,
it's really hard
for her to open up
and really be
who she really is, you know?
Who I know she is.
- Clearly Tyson's
seen the effects.
I mean, you've lost...
- Yeah.
- Confidence in sort of
being yourself.
It's, like, how do you
comfortably put yourself
out there and own your identity
when people are
literally stealing it?
- Right, I mean,
it happens a lot.
- Well, I mean, is there anyone
who is, like,
specifically active right now
and, like,
"I want this person taken down."
- Yeah, I did find one, like,
a few months ago.
Like, I found this profile
on Facebook.
And I, like, looked through
it all, and I'm like,
"What the hell?"
It really pissed me off
and I, like, wrote them,
and I was like,
"Hey, you're using my photos
and my name."
And, like, they're like,
"Obviously we're not
"the same people.
Like, we're using
different photos."
I'm like, "Yeah, because I was,
like, 16 in those photos."
And then they just blocked me.
So I kind of just,
like, gave up.
My whole body just kind of,
like, started heating up.
I just got really mad about it.
And I can't get on her.
You know, you could
probably find her.
- Yeah, let me see.
- Yes, this one.
I think it was that one.
- You guys want to see?
- So, this is
a Facebook profile.
"Name is Nicole or Nicky.
Get to know me and let's chat."
With pictures of you
from when you were younger.
- A long time ago, yeah.
- 200 friends.
Mostly guys.
And here are people
wishing her a happy birthday.
Yeah, so this is
a pretty active.
So, I think, like,
maybe this one, you know,
maybe we can get
in touch with her.
Track down and go with it.
- I mean, let's say
that we find them,
and we bring them
in front of you
and you tell them,
"I really am
asking you to stop."
- Mm-hmm.
- And maybe they see
your humanity
and recognize that they've been
doing something wrong.
But that's just one person.
- Yeah, it's true.
But at the same time, like,
it still feels like me
doing something about it.
- I think it would help you
a lot, dude.
I honestly do.
- Yeah.
It's kind of like me, like,
taking back my life.
That's what it kind
of feels like, you know?
- Let's see if we can't track
down whoever's behind it
and let you know.
- Sounds good to me.
- All right, let's get to work.
- Bye, guys.
- Have a good day.
♪ ♪
- Oh, man.
She's been silently suffering.
- Mm-hmm,
this is a problem.
Her last relationship
was ruined by the fact...
- Well, right.
- That catfish have ruined
her name.
It's affecting
her social life.
- Right.
- And her self-esteem.
- Yeah.
- Let's find her copycat,
try to get them to meet,
and hopefully she can
take her life back.
♪ ♪
- I actually have a little
surprise for us.
- Really?
- Yeah.
- What's this surprise?
- Okay.
Well, you know
that there is a version
of "Catfish"
that they're making in Brazil.
"Catfish Brazil."
♪ ♪
Because of
the MTV Movie Awards,
those guys are here.
- The Max and Nev from Brazil?
- Hmm?
- [speaking Portuguese]
- [speaking Portuguese]
- They haven't been doing it
for as long as we have,
but I think they probably
have to deal
with the same stuff
we deal with.
They're gonna help us
with the investigation.
- Hey, all right,
this is exciting.
- Oh, my God.
both: Hey.
- You're filming us.
- Hi.
- Hey, man.
- How you doing?
- Hey, man.
- [speaking Portuguese]
- Well, we kind of have
a match going on.
- Nev, Max.
- Pretty good.
Is this the camera you use
on the show?
- Mm-hmm.
- It's smaller.
- That's kind of nice.
- Let's see.
Wow, ours is bigger.
[laughter]
- All right.
So, here's the story.
There's a girl named Nicole.
When she was 16,
she got on Myspace,
and, for whatever reason,
people started using
her pictures and making other
Myspace profiles.
When Facebook came along,
she started to see that people
were still using her pictures,
but they were also
using her name.
- All right.
Let's see what we got.
We got an email from Nicole.
"Hey, guys.
"This is the fake profile
that I confronted,
"and it's nicole.riot.1.
"It's still active,
so maybe this is the one
all those people
were talking to."
All right, so, let me just
first show you the real Nicole.
- She's got a look.
- Yeah.
- Yes.
- And that's why I think people
are drawn to her
because, like,
she's very distinct.
- Let's just see how many
Nicole Riot profiles come up.
So, yeah, look at this.
Here's the old one.
Here's another one--that's four.
- That looks like
it could be her also.
Five--I'm not sure
if this is her.
- A lot of fakes.
- Jesus.
- Yeah.
- So, now let's go
to the fake profile--
and this is the one, obviously,
that she's known about,
and it's nicole.riot.1.
And she told us that
they've been using old photos,
which is crazy.
Like, they're using her
and her name,
but look at this.
It goes back to 2011.
It might even go back further.
- 2009.
- Wow.
Well, let's just see
what's on her "About" page.
- Okay.
Studied nursing in Cleveland.
- Cleveland.
- So, she likes a bunch
of musicians
and bands from Cleveland.
Demons Within's from Cleveland.
- That's also from Cleveland.
- Space Monkey.
I mean, most of this profile's
friends live in Cleveland.
- Cleveland seems to be the
epicenter of this person's life.
- I think we should maybe start
reaching out to friends.
- I will send him a message.
"Hey, Ryan.
We are making an episode--"
- There--Kyky [bleep].
- Cleveland.
- Perfect--who's this guy?
Went to Cleveland
Heights high School.
Lives in Cleveland.
- Yeah.
- Shawn [Bleep].
- Ohio.
- Lives in Cleveland.
All right.
We got a couple
messages out now.
- You want to do a image search
from the fake profile?
- Image one.
Whoa, what is this?
- It's the first
thing that comes up.
- The first thing that comes up.
- Oh, yeah--blog or something.
- Yeah.
- What is this?
- Wait, so all of her,
like, old photos
are weirdly stored on this?
- What?
- What?
- Look--it just keeps going.
- Oh, my God.
- Look at this.
- It takes forever.
- Wow.
- Oh.
[phone ringing]
- Hey.
- That was fast.
- We got our first call
from Ohio.
Hello?
- Shawn, yes.
Hey, man.
So, have you heard
of the show "Catfish"?
- Hey, all right, cool.
Well, so, we reached out to you
because you're friends
with Nicole Riot.
- And then did you, like,
follow up and say,
"Hey, what happened?"
- The profile of Nicole
that you interacted
with is not actually that girl.
- Well, thanks for calling us.
- All right, bye.
- It seems to be someone who's
very into the local music scene
in Cleveland.
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- That's what
we should do, yeah.
- All right, well, let's see
who else gets back to us.
- Thanks, guys.
- This has been a real treat.
- Yeah.
[chairs scraping]
- Good luck with season two.
- Yeah.
- Tchau.
- Yeah.
- Good luck.
- Well, I feel like
we're getting
a little closer
to figuring this out.
All signs point to Cleveland.
- Oh.
- Hey, what is that?
- Getting a call.
- Ooh, Cleveland.
- Hello?
- Yes, this is Nev and Max.
We make the show "Catfish."
We are doing an episode
that involves
your friend Nicole Riot.
- Do you know Nicole?
- Oh, really?
- Whoa.
- Did you guys
ever talk on the phone?
- Did you guys try to meet up?
- That's crazy.
So, are you, like,
hopelessly in love with her?
- You live in Cleveland
obviously, right?
- Were you ever convinced that
she lives in Cleveland?
Does she seem to know
Cleveland and, like,
talk about things
that are Cleveland-specific?
- If we came to Cleveland,
do you think
you could meet up with us
and kind of talk
about this a little bit more?
'Cause, like you, we're trying
to find out more about Nicole.
We could use your help.
- All right, cool,
we'll probably get there
sometime tomorrow.
We'll text you
and try to meet up.
- Thanks, man.
- See you soon, bye.
- All right, bye.
- Whoa, whoa.
- Uh-oh.
- So, this guy's been
talking to her for years.
- In a romantic way.
He's in love with her.
- She's been
stringing him along.
Well, this guy sounds like
he's our strongest lead
right now.
- She's in Cleveland?
- For sure.
So, we got to go to Cleveland.
- Let's go to Cleveland.
[knocking]
♪ ♪
- Hey.
All right.
- How are you?
- How are you?
- Good to see you.
- Come on over.
- All right.
We got lots to discuss.
All right.
- All right.
- So, yesterday we went
and we looked
to see what we could find.
And we actually had some help.
They make a version
of "Catfish" in Brazil,
and there's, like,
two guys who host that show.
They met us yesterday.
- That's awesome.
- And actually helped us
with the investigation.
- Why don't we show you
what we found?
- Okay.
- Now, this is interesting.
We did an image search.
We got some hits.
And check this out.
There's a page that has
all of your photos.
- Myspace photos.
- It just goes on.
- These are all Myspace photos?
- Mm-hmm.
- But look at this.
This is, like, crazy.
It's like an archive
of all of your Myspace photos.
- That was weird.
We've never seen that before.
- I don't even have
any of these photos.
That is really weird.
I don't even know
what to think about that.
- Yeah, it's also messed up
because people can now
still find those pictures...
- Yeah.
- And, like,
make new fake profiles.
- Yeah.
- But the profile
that really seems concerning
is the one that you messaged
and then blocked you.
- Mm-hmm.
- So, we went to that profile.
So, here it is.
And the first profile picture
that's up was posted
in December of 2009.
- Yeah, that's a long time ago.
- Yeah.
- That's crazy.
- So, that was the first thing.
We were like, "Whoa."
Then, when we went
through the friends--
and a lot of them
are from Cleveland.
So, we reached out
and asked them to call us.
So, this was the first person
we talked to--Shawn [bleep].
And we asked him
how he knew "Nicole Riot."
He said, "Oh, yeah.
"She, you know,
hit me up on Facebook.
"We had a show coming up, and
she messaged me asking about,
like, getting tickets."
- Okay.
- Do you have any, like,
old friends or enemies
that moved to Cleveland,
like, after middle school or?
- No, mm-mm, no.
I don't know anybody there.
[sighs]
- The second person who called
us back was this guy, Ryan,
and he lives in Cleveland.
He said that he met Nicole
10 years ago.
Never talked on the phone
but messaged a lot.
He lives in Cleveland.
She lives in Cleveland.
But that over the last 10 years
she's kind of come in
and out of his life
and he's been
waiting for the day
when they finally meet because
he's kind of in love with her.
- That really sucks.
- Yeah.
- That's really sad.
- He's kind of what you said
you were afraid of.
- Mm-hmm.
- A guy who's been roped into
a fake profile
using your pictures.
I mean, this guy's 10 years
deep into a love affair
with someone
who is pretending to me you.
- Yeah--the fact that they've
never talked on the phone
to us usually means
that it might actually be a guy.
- Oh, man, okay.
- Well, we didn't tell him that
she wasn't the real you.
- Oh, [bleep].Okay.
- Yeah, we didn't say anything.
- Because we wanted
to tell him in person.
- Oh, man, okay.
- Well, even though we obviously
didn't start this episode
to help this guy
Ryan, like...
- Mm-hmm.
- We might be able to sort of do
two things at once here
which is have him help us
find out a little bit more
about your fake account
and then also tell him
the truth so he knows.
- Yeah, he deserves that.
- So, we asked Ryan
to help us out.
I mean, we got to roll
the dice here.
Everything we have tells us
to go to Cleveland.
- Okay.
- How do you feel
about doing this?
- I'm a little anxious
but it'll be good.
I'm ready for it.
I want to tell them what
it's actually done to me.
How much I've hid from myself
because of what they've done.
It's not cool to, like, hurt me
and hurt other people, like,
I'm just ready.
- Okay, so, we're actually
doing it.
- Cleveland.
I mean, we're kind of
going out on a limb here.
How do we deal with Ryan?
Because he's in touch
with the catfish.
Also, he's the only person
that happens to have
her phone number.
- Right, he can give us
more information
but, like, he doesn't know
anything, though.
- Wow.
- I mean, when this guy
sees you, he's gonna flip out.
- I don't even know.
It's gonna be crazy.
- Yeah, this is a big deal.
We should tell him in person
before he meets you.
- That's probably a good idea.
- Yeah.
- Why don't you text Ryan,
see if he can meet up
with us tomorrow morning.
- "Hey, Ryan.
We are heading to Cleveland
"right now and will
land tonight.
Would you be cool to meet us
at our hotel in the morning?"
- "Yeah, that works,
and excited to meet tomorrow."
- "Okay, awesome.
See you soon."
All right, done.
We have a date with Ryan.
- Oh, man.
- All right, we're here.
You ready?
- Yeah.
- Travel montage.
Fan me?
- ♪ On the way,
feeling brand new ♪
♪ Whoa, oh, oh, oh ♪
♪ Dancing high on the clouds
doing what we do ♪
- ♪ Say hello ♪
- ♪ Hey! ♪
- ♪ Say hello ♪
- ♪ Hey! ♪
- ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪
- ♪ Say hello ♪
- ♪ Hey! ♪
- ♪ Say hello ♪
- ♪ Hey! ♪
- ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪
Break it down.
Break it down.
- ♪ Say hello,
say hello ♪
- So, Ryan knows we're here.
We're gonna meet up with him
in the morning
and formulate a plan.
- ♪ Hey! ♪
- Okay.
It's morning in Cleveland.
♪ ♪
- Thank you, mm-hmm.
- Yep.
- There he is.
- Mm-hmm.
- Guess who's downstairs
in the hotel restaurant?
- Ryan.
- Yep.
- He's here?
- He's here--what's up?
- How you doing?
- Wow, this is romantic.
- Under the lights.
- How you doing, man?
- Good, I'm Ryan.
- Hey, Ryan, I'm Max.
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
- Well, thanks for meeting us.
- No problem.
- You grew up here in Cleveland?
- Yeah.
- How did you end up in
a 10-year relationship
with Nicole on the Internet?
- 10 years ago she added me.
I'm like, "Cool, a hot chick."
But then we started talking.
But we never talked
on the phone.
So, it was all, like,
you know, text communication.
- Did you ever think, "Hey,
this might be a catfish"?
- Kind of sort of now
I'm thinking that, but.
- Here's why we're here.
We got a call from Nicole.
The real Nicole.
- Okay.
- Who lives in Utah.
And we were just in Salt Lake
City, and we met Nicole
and she told us
that for the past, like,
eight or nine years
there have been
a number of profiles
made of her
that have been out there
talking to people.
- Copycat.
- And unfortunately,
you're one of...
- [mutters]
- I'm so sorry.
♪ ♪
- Well, the real Nicole is gay.
She's not even into guys.
- ♪ Tap with wings for me ♪
- ♪ Do you love...? ♪
- It's definitely, like,
a big, like, letdown, you know?
Like a hit in the face.
Now I'm wondering
who I'm really talking to.
- Well, that's what
we want to find out.
So, we brought
the real Nicole with us
'cause she wants to try and tell
this person--whoever it is--
they need to stop
pretending to be her.
- Oh, wow.
- I'm gonna go upstairs,
bring Nicole down.
- Okay.
♪ ♪
[knocking]
♪ ♪
- Hello.
- Morning.
- What's up?
- How you doing?
- Good, tired.
- So, Ryan's downstairs.
- Okay.
- He's very sweet.
A little bummed, obviously.
But, yeah.
It'll be a little weird.
- Yeah, it's gonna be
a little awkward.
- But it's okay.
We're all there, so.
- Okay, yeah.
- You want to come down?
- Yeah, I'll come down.
- Okay, come on.
♪ ♪
- In the back of your mind,
were you like,
"Yeah, this girl's great
and one day
I'm probably gonna meet her"?
- Yeah.
- "That's my ticket."
- Yeah, 'cause, you know,
I pictured how, like,
we talked every day,
like, the vibes felt right.
So, I don't know.
Weirded out.
♪ ♪
- All right.
- Oh, my God, okay.
- Here she is.
- Hello.
- Hi.
- So, yeah, this is Ryan.
- Hi, I'm Nicole.
- Nice to meet you.
- Do you want a hug?
I'll give you a hug.
- Oh, yeah.
- [laughs]
♪ ♪
- So, is this weird?
- Maybe.
A little bit.
Yeah, I don't know what to say.
- I bet it like--I mean, like,
what does it feel like?
- Well, you're the real Nicole,
so, like, now I know you.
But now I want to know, like,
who I was, like...
- Yeah.
- Chatting up with.
- Weren't you, like,
suspicious that it
was a catfish?
Like, ever?
- Like, well, 'cause, like,
we had stopped talking for,
like, a little bit.
So, like, it honestly,
like, left my mind.
But now it's, like, it makes
sense for like it now, you know?
- Yeah, for sure.
Like, it's hurting
a lot of people.
And I don't like that
'cause I'm not that person.
- So, now we have
to sort of figure out
how to reel
this catfish in, I guess.
- Yeah.
- So, now we have to
sort of figure out
how to reel
this catfish in, I guess.
- Yeah.
- When was the
last time you texted?
- Maybe, like,
a week ago or something.
- We should try texting.
See if they'll answer.
- Yeah, I like that idea.
- Okay, okay.
Should we text from my phone
or something?
- Oh, yeah, you should text her.
Just say, like--
- Just say, "I," well...
- "We need to talk"?
I don't--I mean--
- I don't know what to type.
- Here, let Nev do it.
- Yeah, there we go.
Nev always needs to drive.
- " 'Catfish' reached out to me.
"I know you're not
the real Nicole
but would still love
to meet you."
- Should I send it?
- Yeah, that's good.
- Yeah.
Let's just see what happens.
- All right.
- Okay.
- Here we go.
- I'm, like,
staring at my phone.
I don't know if there's, like,
more than one person or, like.
- Yeah, same.
- Was there anybody that you
do know that has always had
a big crush on you?
- I have no idea.
- 'Cause it could be
someone that you've known.
- Hmm, I don't know.
[phone buzzing]
- Oh, we got a long response.
- Oh, long one.
- Oh, Nev.
- I was set.
- She's gonna be
bitching you out.
- "I'm ready to meet
if that's what you want."
- [Bleep] yeah.
- "Yeah, I'd love to meet up.
Are you free today?"
[phone beeps]
- Oh, wait, wait.
- Oh, what'd she say?
- Oh, God, what'd she say?
- "I'm free to meet this
afternoon at a place
called Garden
Hill View Park."
- All right.
Are we all gonna go?
- Mm-hmm.
- Right, team now.
- Yep, let me get this fish.
Yep, let's do it.
- ♪ I'm supposed to free you
of your mind ♪
♪ There's nothing to it, girl ♪
- You ready to do this?
- I'm, like, nervous.
- How do you feel, Nicole?
- I'm excited.
I'm ready to do this.
- ♪ I'm supposed to free you
of the good kind ♪
- Who have I been talking to?
- You kind of know.
- I have no idea.
- No, but you've been talking
to him for five years.
- Yeah, but I thought I knew.
I just don't remember.
Maybe, like, the convos,
you know?
- Do you have memory issues
in general?
[laughter]
- ♪ I'm supposed to free you
of your mind ♪
- My mind's probably, like,
blocking things out.
- 'Cause you're mad.
- Yeah.
- ♪ I'm supposed to free you
of your... ♪
- This is the park.
- ♪ I'm supposed to
free you of ♪
♪ I'm supposed to free you of ♪
♪ I'm supposed to
free you of ♪
- Oh, man.
- What is the under/over
on it being a guy?
- I mean, if we stick to
our rulebook, it's 100%, right?
- Right.
- All right.
Let's go, team.
♪ ♪
I don't see anybody.
Do you guys see anybody?
- Mm-mm.
- Nobody.
- Like a game of hide and seek.
♪ ♪
- Got nothing.
- There's somebody walking way,
way down there.
- What?
- Do you see someone?
♪ ♪
- It's a girl.
- It is a girl.
- Oh.
- Is it?
- Holy [bleep].
I...know her.
- You know this person?
both: Really?
- Holy [bleep].
I...know her.
- You know this person?
both: Really?
- Yep.
- Hi.
- Hello, obviously I was the one
running the fake profile, so.
- What's your name?
- Arica.
- Arica, Max.
- Nice to meet you.
- Do you guys know each other?
- Online, yeah.
- I added her as myself
on my Facebook page.
- Why?
- I think I was slowly making
that transition
to tell her
'cause I think the first thing
I said to you was like,
"Wow, that's crazy how people
are using your pictures."
That was to get her to accept,
like, my friend request
and me as a person,
and just eventually kind of come
clean about the whole situation.
And obviously I know Ryan.
♪ ♪
- Ryan.
- That's crazy.
I don't know what to say.
Oh, I did not
even recognize her.
- Yeah, I low-key dated
Ryan, like, 10 years ago.
- Yeah.
- Ryan, do you remember that?
- I remember that, but I didn't
recognize you walking up.
- Yeah.
- It's been a long time.
- You guys dated in high school?
- Yeah, like, we dated.
- We only dated for,
like, three weeks.
- Continue.
- Okay.
- So, really, the profile
got started is because
when me and Ryan were dating,
that was kind of
during the time my mother
was just not about,
like, relationships.
Can't talk to boys. Nothing.
So, we were told not
to talk to each other.
Like, no communication. Nothing.
Me being, you know,
head over heels kind of person,
I was like,
"I need to talk to him."
I, you know, was on Myspace.
I think I had Myspace
and Facebook.
And there was this,
like, account called,
like, Fake Busters
where they used to bust,
like, fake profiles.
Her pictures were one of them.
I mean, she had, like,
a YouTube video
saying she was real.
I was like, "Dang, like,
this is kind of, like,
the perfect person to use."
You know?
Someone wanted to call me out?
Well, hey, here's the YouTube
video saying,
like, I'm a real person.
- I was the pawn.
- But it kind of enabled me
to still talk to him
and him being kind of
receiving of it.
Other than that,
it's kind of been, like,
a one-and-done
kind of conversation
with other people.
- Glad I know that now.
- Well, we know
that you did reach out to, like,
other local Cleveland people.
- Yeah.
That profiles was kind of
the almost like
last word profile.
I mean, through the years of,
like, high school
and just, like,
bullying and all this,
you know, kind of just drama,
people would always block me
on my personal page
and, like, would say
whatever then block.
And I'm like, "Really?
Okay."
So, I just hop on as Nicole and,
you know, get my last word in
and then that was it.
- Why not just shut it off?
You can just
deactivate a profile.
- Right. Um, so--
- Why is it still up?
- I mean--
- 'Cause, like, using
her pictures and her name...
- Right.
- And then separately
as yourself,
like, being friends with them.
It's, like--
- It's kind of [bleep]
my life up in a way.
- Me personally--and
I'm not saying
that this isn't
as important as you--but
I had other things
going on in my life
that I was just kind of like,
"All right.
I'll get to this later," so.
- So weird.
- Do you guys have anything
more you want to say right now?
Nicole?
- I don't know--I'm so upset.
- I think they're pretty shocked
and they need to kind
of process all this.
Go back to the hotel
and maybe meet up tomorrow.
- What the [bleep]?
- It's so weird.
I didn't recognize her.
- I just saw her come up
the hill, and I'm like,
"I know this bitch."
- ♪ All these people,
they are so dark ♪
- Now it makes sense why it felt
like I was, like,
talking to someone
that, like--
- That you knew?
- Yeah.
'Cause she already knew me.
- Yeah, that's crazy.
- I guess she seemed emotionless
when she was, like,
saying sorry.
- She really hasn't
heard your side of it.
Like, today she told her side.
You guys didn't say anything.
- ♪ Running, running through ♪
- You kind of have to make her
feel what it felt like
to have someone
fake their identity
and how it closed you up,
'cause otherwise
what has she learned?
- Right.
[knocking]
♪ ♪
- Hello.
- Yo.
- How's your breakfast?
- What's up?
- Not much,
just hanging out.
- So, have you wrapped your mind
around everything
that happened yesterday?
- I don't know--I feel like her
apology was kind of bull[bleep],
and she was just
making up excuses
and I'm like I just don't
appreciate people trying to,
like, well,
first of all, use my photos
and then pretend
to be my friend.
- Right.
That's creepy and weird.
- She kind of just came in with,
like, this attitude like,
"Well, I get the last say."
And I'm like, "No. [Bleep] that.
I get the last say."
You know?
- Well, what do you have
to say on the last say?
- I want to explain to her,
like, exactly,
like, what it's done to me
and, like, how closed off I am.
- And do you have those words
somewhat prepared?
- I've been thinking
about them a lot.
- Okay.
- Yeah.
- Should we check in Ryan?
- I told him we were together
and meet downstairs.
- All right, the gang
is getting together again.
- Hey, man.
- Hey, what's going on?
- You ready?
- Yeah.
♪ ♪
- This'll be fun.
[knocking]
- Hey, guys.
- Hi.
- Hey.
- Hey, you can come in.
♪ ♪
- Okay.
- How do you feel
it went yesterday?
- I expected kind of
the reaction.
I expected the being speechless.
I expected, you know, so.
- Well, these guys have now
had a chance
to really wrap their minds
around what happened
and I think that they now
have some things to say.
- Yeah.
I think this whole thing
was complete bull[bleep],
and I think
it's all for attention.
I feel betrayed completely,
like, two different ways.
Like, you pretend
to be my friend
and then you used my photos.
You affected not just your life
but ours as well,
like, in a big way.
- Like, you seemed, like,
emotionless yesterday.
- I think
I was kind of emotionless
because I was trying not
to break down.
I almost cried a couple times,
and I don't know
if it was evident or not,
but I kind of just--
I tried not to make it
about me yesterday
even though it was
because I was trying
to get their reaction.
And I understand
the attention part.
It was--when I was younger,
I was very impulsive.
Like, I didn't think
about anything.
- What is this final word thing
and why are you bullying people
and being nasty to people
from an anonymous fake account
using her, I mean, that's--
- It's [bleep] up.
- I think what was going on
for me was,
I mean, I had came out
as bisexual, and,
you know,
I was in seventh grade.
I mean, I obviously
wasn't accepted, you know?
So, that was kind of when
the bullying started, you know,
so I think at that point it
was more just, like,
battling my mother, who,
you know,
was just very Christian.
She's also involved
in the school district I was at.
So, then it's my problem--
- But then I've gone through
that [bleep], too.
Like, my parents are LDS.
My mom works
for the school system, like,
I had to go through that, too.
- Yeah, I mean, I was just--
- I'm, like, shaking 'cause
I'm so frustrated right now.
It's just, like,
I don't feel bad for you
that you're crying or anything.
I don't feel anything for you.
- Yeah, I mean, I'm not
expecting anyone to feel bad.
This is--
- You could say whatever
you want.
Like, you stole her identity
and, like, you talked to, like,
other people doing it.
Like, all this, like,
talked to me and stuff.
It's, like, crazy.
- Mm-hmm.
- I haven't, like, seen you in,
like, 10 years.
It's like a movie but it's real.
- I'm just explaining to you,
like, what it is and, you know,
in a sense
what judgments you make
from there you have that right.
- I don't know--I just
don't think you know, like,
how it affects people.
Like, people [bleep] hate me
because of the [bleep]
that you and other people
have been doing.
Like, I have lost relationships
because of fake profiles.
I've lost friends.
I've lost myself
because I've had to hide myself
because people will start
attacking me
probably for [bleep]
like maybe you've done
or what other people have done.
- Right.
- Like, I used to be this
outgoing person and be able to,
like, talk to whoever
and now I'm, like, I hide.
I stay in my house,
and I go to work.
That's it.
Like, it sucks.
And it's not okay.
Like, I don't know.
I think you're [bleep] crazy.
Like, I'm not trying
to be a bitch, but.
- Yeah.
Like, I feel terrible, dude.
Like, I'm just sorry.
I didn't know.
Nothing I did to y'all was cool.
It was childish.
It was [bleep] up.
And I have problems, you know,
I'm still working
through problems, you know?
- I wish you the best 'cause
I don't want any negative
out of this, but, like,
I understand
you have your issues,
but it's not our problem for it.
- Right--I think,
at the end of the day,
it was just dumb,
and I'm really sorry
that it went on,
you know, this long, really.
I'm really sorry
it even started.
I'm really sorry
to both of you.
- Thank you.
- How do we know
now that you're going to be
moving in the right direction?
- The one step was getting rid
of the profile.
- When did you do that?
- I did that last night.
Yeah, I'm done with fake pages.
- I think, listening to you,
I hear you saying
that you want
to keep getting better
and so I'm hopeful for that.
- Yeah.
- All right, Arica, good luck.
- Thank you.
♪ ♪
- All right, how do you feel
about that?
- I feel better, like,
actually, like,
expressing what was bugging me.
- Good.
Well, you stood up for yourself.
- It definitely felt good
to fight back.
- I just hope, like,
all positive comes out of this.
Hopefully she handles stuff
with herself
like she says she's going to.
- I guess we'll see.
[line trilling]
- Hello.
- Hey.
- Hey, what's up?
- Wow, what's going on?
You look amazing.
- Oh, I miss you guys.
- Aww.
- We had fun.
- Yeah, it was fun.
- Are you more yourself
than ever now, or?
- Yes, everything's changed.
I feel good being able to,
like, come out as myself
and not have to, like,
shelter myself, you know?
And being able to confront
at least one person,
like, really helped.
This has been
an amazing experience.
- Thank you guys so much.
- Have a great summer, bye.
- Okay, bye, you guys.
[line trilling]
- Hey.
- How you doing?
- I'm doing good.
How about you?
- Not bad.
- How did you feel kind of
after we left?
- Honestly, it was a big sigh
of relief because, you know,
it had been going on
for so long.
- I assume you're no longer
using the Nicole Riot
page, right?
- No.
That was deactivated and
hasn't been touched since, so.
Now it's time to just
learn from mistakes
and keep going on with life.
- Sounds good.
Good luck with everything.
- Thank you.
Thank you, guys.
- All right, bye, Arica.
- See you, guys.
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