Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 6, Episode 15 - April & Dean - full transcript

- I met a guy named Dean
seven years ago on a teen chat.

- We were already telling
each other we love each other.

- And then one day?

- He just disappeared.

- Whoa.
- Married to Tina [bleep].

- That's the first thing
that came up.

- If Dean is this married guy,

this could turn into
a major situation.

- Here comes someone.

- And they're backing up
to our car.

- Oh.
- Whoa. Wait a minute.



[dramatic musical sting]

A little hack-off?
- Excuse me?

Nev, master
of all little things.

Oh, the knee one.
I can do that.

- That was pretty good.

- Enough hacky-sack.

Why don't we get
into the hacking?

All right. We got an email.
- "I just can't quit him."

- Someone's seen
Brokeback Mountain.

- "Dear Nev and Max.
My name is April.

I just turned 20 years old,
and I am from Lehi, Utah."

- We have never done
a story in Utah.

- "I met a guy named Dean

"seven years ago
on a teen chat.



- ♪ I just want you
to love me ♪

- "Dean is 22 and lives
in Aubrey, Texas."

- ♪ I'm not sure
you got it in you ♪

- "Dean and I first hit it off
when he private messaged me.

"We had all
the same interests,

"and our personalities
just clicked.

He was the male version
of me."

- I don't know
if I'd be attracted

to the female version of me.

- I wonder if I would like
the male version of you.

"I soon found myself
telling him I loved him."

- ♪ I know you love it,
you know I love it ♪

♪ We know we love it ♪

- "As the relationship
progressed,

so did the problems."
- Hmm.

- "He would always promise
to meet me and/or video chat,

"but he would continue
with the excuses.

"That's why
I'm writing to you guys.

"I just can't quit this guy.

"I still love him.

April."

- What is Dean hiding?

And does he feel
the same way about her?

- All right. We got to get
this girl on the horn.

[ringing]

both: Oh. Hey!
- Hi.

- How are things in Utah?
- Pretty good.

I'm just working.
Trying to get into school.

- Cool, so just sort
of explain a little bit more

about how you met Dean,
and what went down.

- Dean and I originally met
on a website called Teen Chat.

I had just been on there
surfing message boards.

Dean saw a lot of what
I was writing on there,

and it interested him,
so he decided to message me.

We exchanged numbers,
and we really connected.

We started talking about
how we were kind of soul mates.

- What went wrong?

- So about two years
into the relationship

he disappeared.

He just fell off
the face of the planet.

Didn't return my calls.
Didn't text me. Anything.

It was dead silent
for about nine months,

and then I get a phone call.

He says he dropped out
of high school.

"I'm having issues at home,

and I didn't want you
knowing about these things."

- And did you guys
continue talking after that?

- We did.
I was his emotional crutch.

Just there supporting him,

and then again
he just--poof--disappeared.

- Wow.

- After about a year,
he just calls me

and said his mom passed away

and how he needed
someone to talk to,

so then again
I was there supporting him.

- Do you see a future
with this guy?

- I do want to be
with him someday.

I hope for that.

Throughout the years
I've become attached to him.

Like, I can't let him go.

- Sit tight.
We're gonna fly to Utah.

We'll help you
get some answers.

- Okay.
- All right. Bye, April.

- Bye.

- I mean, he's been a huge part
of her adolescence

and, like, forming
who she is as a person.

And to have all of these
kind of unanswered questions,

there's like a part of her
that's missing.

- Ready for some answers?
- All right, let's go.

Question is, is it gonna be
April flowers or April showers?

- Yeah, that's
really terrible.

- ♪ Away, here we go ♪

- Can't wait to see
what this is all about.

- ♪ Here we go again ♪

- Utah is gorgeous.

- Ah, snow peak mountains.

- Another state off
of our checklist.

- Hey.
- Hi.

- April.
- What's up?

- Not much.
- How are you?

- I'm good.
- It's nice to meet you.

- Whoa.
- Do you wanna like come sit?

- Yeah. We'd love to.

- Okay, so this whole story--
it's complicated.

- Very.

- Walk us through
all the key moments.

- So I was on Teen Chat

just sort of browsing
on the message boards.

I was entering junior high.

I didn't have
very many friends.

I had problems
opening up to people.

He saw what I was writing
in the message boards,

became interested in me,
and privately messaged me.

We started
becoming more close.

We started talking about
our personal lives,

and we slowly
started flirting more.

I was gaining trust in him.

- How much are
you guys talking?

- All day, every day.
Like 24/7.

I would text him during class,

but the moment I was home
I was on the phone with him.

And these conversations were,
like, six, seven hours

long phone calls.
- Whoa.

- It was, like, my first
romantic relationship.

- Which must have been fun.
- Yeah.

He was very sweet and caring,

and I felt like
I could sort of tell him

my secrets and my issues,

and he would always be
very supportive of me.

We were already telling
each other we love each other.

We should try and meet
and be together.

- And then one day?
- He just disappeared.

He was just gone.

I was heartbroken.

- How long was Dean missing?
- Almost a year.

And then at that point,
he called me.

- So out of the blue?
- Yeah.

He's like, "I know
you've been worried about me,

and you're probably
wondering what happened."

He goes into how he
dropped out of high school.

He was struggling
with his mom,

and he had to get a job
to help out.

And he's like,
"My mom is sick.

"I've been dealing
with a lot of family drama,

and I didn't want
to get you involved."

- Okay.

- I just gave him
the benefit of the doubt.

- So you sort of picked up
where you left off?

- Mm-hmm. It went on for
about six, seven months.

and then he just pulled
another disappearance.

- You've been through
this now twice.

- I was so done,
but one night,

out of the blue,
I receive a phone call,

and it was him.

very emotionally distraught
about his mom passing.

He was scared.
Just trying to figure life out.

A little bit after he told me
his mom had passed

he sent me a friend request
on Facebook that said,

"Hey, April. It's Dean.
I'm sending you a request,"

because he wasn't
paying his bill,

so they shut off his phone.

"The only way we
can talk is Facebook,"

and I was like,
"You know what?

I'm gonna talk to him, and
I'm gonna give this a chance.

I still care about him."

It sort of went back
to where it was.

- So you can't stop
talking to this guy?

- I can't.

He's, like, the first person
I really cared about,

'cause he's been with me
throughout my teenage life.

- I gotta see this guy. I mean
he must be super good-looking,

if you're willing to put up
with all this BS.

- So this is him.
- Here we go.

- Oh, whoa.
Eyebrow pierced.

- He's got
the gauged earrings.

- Okay. He's a punk.

- Whoa.
Yeah he's very steam punk or--

- He's very punky.

Other than that,
all I know is about, like,

his friend that he talks--
that he lives with.

- Who?
- His name is Dakota.

- Do you suspect that he might
not be the guy in the pictures?

- Um, sometimes, yes, but when
people really care and connect

with someone they kind of do
stupid things.

They kind of give them
a ridiculous amount of chances.

- That's why I keep
on sticking around Nev.

Even though he does
all these stupid things.

I can't quit you.

No.

Mm-hmm.

- Okay, fine.

I'm joining in on this.

- Okay.

All right, so we got
to stick together.

- Mm-hmm.
Through thick and thin.

- We got to figure out what
the hell's going on here.

We'll let you know what we find.
We'll call you in the morning,

and hopefully we'll
figure this out.

- Bye, April.
- Bye.

- Nice to meet you.

- Why is he disappearing?

- Is he having
other relationships?

Is he just not that into her?
It's weird.

I can't make heads
or tails of it right now.

- All right.
Let the investigation begin.

- Let's do it!

- Hello.
- Hi.

- Look at this beautiful spot.

- This is so cool.
Look at that.

Max, look.
That was your first iPod.

- The private room.

- Or a little
investigation chamber.

All right.
You ready to dive into this?

- Let's do it.
- All right.

April's been talking to this guy
since she was 13.

They said that
they loved each other,

and things were going well.

Then with no explanation
Dean disappears.

- Whoo. Gone.

- And she doesn't hear
from him in a while.

Then out of nowhere,
Dean calls her one night.

"Hey, I'm back."
They start talking again.

She still likes him a lot,
but he disappears again,

but this time his mother
had passed away,

'cause she was ill,

but it's been
on again/off again.

Mystery. Drama.

- So let's find out who he is
and what he's hiding.

- Here's what we know.

We've got his phone number that
he hasn't used in a while,

because it apparently
got cut off,

'cause he couldn't afford it.
- Right.

He lives in Aubrey, Texas.
Supposedly.

- So let's go
to Dean's Facebook page.

He's got nothing listed

in terms of work, education,
places he's lived.

It's a total blank.

- There are only five pictures.
- It feels fake.

- It's suspicious.
- Yeah. All right.

Let's image search
these pictures.

See if we can figure out
who the man behind the mask is.

- Ugh.
- No.

- No. All right.
Here we go, another one.

Nothing.

- Well, come on, come on,
give us a hint.

- All right, so look.

Dean says he lives
with his roommate--

both: Dakota.
- Right. Let's see.

I mean if that's his friend,
you think he'd show up, right?

- Oh, yeah. There it is.
There's a real guy here posted.

Lives in Little Elm, Texas.
Let's reach out to Dakota.

- Yeah. I guess we might
as well reach out to Dakota.

I mean they're supposed
to be roommates, right?

Hey, Dakota.

This is Nev from "Catfish."

Get back to us
at your earliest convenience.

- Great.
- All right.

We got Dakota messaged.
Who else should we message?

- Just scroll to see
if there's anything

that he posts
with himself in it.

Well, what do people say?

We got Zoey [bleep].

- "Oh, my God.
You cut your hair."

- Why don't we look at Zoey?
- Who is this girl?

- She's from Texas.
Should we send her a message?

- Yeah, I think
we need to reach out.

Hey, Zoey.
Grapevine. Boom.

- Look, Bee [bleep].
- Little Elm, Texas.

That's where
Dakota [bleep] from.

- That's right.
Let's hit this girl up.

All right. Boom.
Messaged.

In the meantime,
let's run the phone number.

- Yeah. Phone number.

It's been his number
since he was 15 years old.

- Here we go.
- Oh!

Tina [bleep].
Who's that?

- Tina [bleep].
Late 30's.

Let's run the number
on Facebook.

- Okay.
- See if anything comes up.

John.
Married to Tina [bleep].

- That's the first thing
that came up,

so this Tina thing is real.

- Well, is John who
she's actually talking to,

and is he married?

- They were married
since 2009,

which is when
they started talking.

That's seven years ago.

- Right.
- Weird.

- Looks like he has a kid.
Kota.

- Wait.
Kota as in Dakota.

Kota is short for Dakota.

- That's...crazy.
- Got to be.

- Well, so either
John or Tina

somehow acquired the number
in the last year or two,

since Dean couldn't afford
to pay his bill,

or she's been talking to John.

- And/or Tina.
- This entire time.

- Right.
- And the reason

he can't meet up, or
the reason he can't video chat

is 'cause he's old
and he's married,

and he's got a kid.

Kota. Strangely similar.

- That's the biggest red flag.

[phone ringing]
- Oh!

Oh, Texas calling.

Catfish headquarters.

- Zoey.
- Zoey. Oh, hey, Zoey.

We're just trying to find out
a little bit more

about your friend Dean.

Was it, like,
a relationship or--

Have you guys
ever video chatted?

Right.

And what kind of, like, drama
has he been going through?

Like, what things have happened,
in the last few years?

Has he ever mentioned
a girl named April?

All right, well Zoey,
listen, thank you.

Just so you know,
you've been having

the exact same relationship

with Dean as another girl
named April.

- Word-for-word.
- Word-for-word.

My advice to you
is to forget this guy.

I don't think he's worth it.

All right, thanks, Zoey.

Good luck with everything.

Jeez, so April's not
even the only girl

that Dean's been giving
this whole story to.

Promising to be with.

I mean, if she just happened

to be some random girl
we reach out to,

who knows how many other girls
he's been doing this to?

And look, if Dean is
this married guy, John,

and he's been doing this
for seven years,

unbeknownst to his wife
and kids, like,

this could turn into
a major situation.

- Oh. Hey-o.
- Oh, we got something?

- We got one
little Messenger alert.

- both: Bee.

"- Hey, guys.
Just got your message.

"I won't be able
to talk today.

If you're trying to get
a hold of Dean..."

- Whoa.
- "You can call him."

Is that the number
we have for him?

No. New number.
- So this is a separate number.

- Just search it.

- New number.
- Search it.

- Oh!
- Whoa.

It comes up for Dakota.

- His "roommate."

We've actually
got something now.

Good chance Dean is Dakota.

Dakota is Dean.

I think we should go
over there and call Dakota.

- In front of her.
- In front of her.

- And if that's his voice,
she'll know instantly.

- Okay.

Let's go.
- All right. Let's go.

- We do not have
great news to deliver...

- No.
- For April.

A couple scenarios here.
Neither of which is very good,

but we got to tear
the Band-Aid off.

- April.
- Hi. Come on in.

- All right.
- How are you feeling today?

- Pretty good.

- After we left yesterday,
we looked into everything.

We want to go over
everything that we found.

See if you can help
give us some meaning,

'cause there's some things that
we don't totally understand.

- Okay.
- So first things first.

We wanted to check out
his Facebook page.

As we scrolled through, we
started to sort of just look at,

"Is there
any conversation happening

between him and anybody else?"

- Mm-hmm.
- There were a couple of people

that jumped out,

and so we sent out
a handful of messages,

and the first person to get back
to us was this girl, Zoey.

- Okay.
- This was weird,

because she said,

"Oh, we met on Teen Chat,
like, six years ago."

- Okay.
- "And we were talking.

Things were kind of going well,
but then he just disappeared."

- So he did, like,
the same thing to her.

- It was weird.
It was like word-for-word

her experience matched yours,
you know?

- He always says,
"Oh, I'm single.

You're the only person
I'm talking to right now."

So that's kind of a dick move.

- ♪ You're always ♪

♪ So distant in fact ♪

- Who knows if there are others?
- It sucks.

Like, he's not being
completely honest with me.

- Looks that way.
- Yeah.

- Well, we kept searching,
and the next thing we did

was we ran
his phone number.

- Okay.
- And on the first site

we got a match for someone
named Tina Bennett.

- Have you heard
that name before?

- I don't recognize it.
- Okay.

- So we then searched
the number on Facebook.

- It brought us to this profile.

- To what I'm assuming
is Tina's husband?

- Right.
- Yes. John.

We went through his photos.
- Okay.

- And when we got to this one.
- Kota by the fire.

Kota is an abbreviation
for Dakota.

- That's one hell of
a coincidence.

- That's what we thought.

- Is his roommate his son,
and he's just lying?

- Is he married
with kid or kids?

- And then he's also talking
to other girls

and doing the same thing?

- Well, it would certainly
explain why he can't meet up

and why sometimes
he disappears.

- Why he won't video chat.

- Yeah.

- But this morning we got
a message back from Bee,

one of the girls who commented
on his recent photos.

And she wrote back, "If you're
trying to get a hold of Dean,

you can call him,"
and a number.

- But that number's different.

both: Different from
the number you have.

- Right.

- For how long has he said
he doesn't have a phone?

- Like two-and-a-half years
now almost.

- Well, weird then that Bee

has a current phone number
that she can call him on.

We took this new number,
and we searched it on Facebook.

We got a hit.
- You did?

- Yeah.
- And this was it.

- Dakota.

That's weird.

Why would he have it?

- Well, maybe Dean really
doesn't have a number,

but he uses
his roommate's number

when he wants
to talk to people.

- Or maybe there is no Dean,
and there's only a Dakota.

- But looking at this
guy's profile,

you'd think like,
"Why would someone do that?"

- Yeah.
- Like, this guy seems like

a confident guy,
so that makes me think,

"Well, maybe this
is not actually him either."

Right. If he made
one fake Facebook page,

maybe he made another.

Maybe it is this married guy
in his 40s with a kid.

I mean, it's just weird
and not great.

- Right.

- I think we should
call "Dakota."

You'll know right away,
if you hear his voice.

- Yeah. I can tell if it's him.

- Right.
- Yeah.

[tense music]

[line ringing]

♪ ♪

- Hi.
Is this Dakota?

My name is Nev, and you
may or may not have heard

or seen a show I made called
"Catfish" on MTV.

We were trying
to get in touch with Dean,

and one of his friends
on Facebook gave us this number.

I don't know if he's ever
mentioned a friend

that he has named April?

We're just trying to help--
they've been trying to meet up

for a long time,
and, you know,

for a lot of reasons
it hasn't worked out, and so--

All right, well, so yeah,
just let him know

we'd love to chat and
you can give him this number.

Thanks.

- That was not his voice at all.
That was someone else.

- Okay. That's weird.

He could be lying for him,
you know?

- Well, so that's crazy,
'cause if that's not Dean--

- Who is it?

- You okay?

- I'm just irritated.
I need to know.

- There's no point
in avoiding it.

We should just take him
on directly.

- Okay.

- Let's just sent him
a message from us.

Hey, Dean. I see you guys have
been talking for a long time.

April would really love
to meet you.

- She has a lot of questions.
- Right.

Please get back to us.

Thanks.

- All right.

- And hopefully, he will get
back to us at some point...

- Right.
- And agree to meet up.

We need to plan on
confronting him,

which means going to Texas.

We'll track him down,
and we'll get some answers.

- Okay.
- All right.

- 10:09 P.M.

I got a text
from Dakota's phone number.

It says, "Hey, it's Dean.

"I heard you guys
are looking for me.

"I'd like to meet her
and talk about a few things.

"I will be at Dakota's
all weekend.

Just drop by."

And then there's an address.

So this is happening.

- Good morning, April.
- Good morning.

- Hey, guys.
Morning.

- Hey.

- Well, we've heard from Dean.

He's up for meeting you,
and we have an address.

- Is it the same address
that Dean's number--

- It's Aubrey.

- So we know
we're going to Texas.

Let's go.

[upbeat music]

♪ ♪

Let's do it.

- ...service to
Dallas-Fort Worth.

- ♪ And oh-oh-oh ♪

♪ I've never been alone ♪

♪ Not if you think about it ♪

♪ I said oh-oh-oh ♪

- All right.

- How close is it?

- Eight minutes.
- Oh, God.

- Moment of truth
approaching.

- How you feeling?

- Worried mostly.

Worried that
he has been lying to me.

- I mean, I think it's pretty
safe to assume at this point

that you have not been
getting the full truth.

- Yeah.

- And this is years coming
to a head right now.

You know, you've been
waiting to meet this guy

since you were 13.

- I know. I'm finally going
to get answers.

- All right, so this
is Dakota's house.

- Ooh.
[chuckles]

- This is it.

- Yeah. This is kind of,
like, my one moment

I get to say things.
- Yeah.

- The time to finally let him
know what I think.

- No more disappearing.

- [sighs]

All right.

- Let's do it.

You guys want to hang here,
and I'll...

- Yeah.
- Knock.

I'll do the knocking.

[tense music]

[doorbell chimes]

♪ ♪

[knocking]

Hey.

- Hello?
- Yeah.

You must be Dakota.

- Yeah.
- Hey, Nev.

- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.

- It's this guy.

- Well, it's Dakota.

- We were talking to Dean.
- Mm-hmm?

- He said to stop by here.
He'd be here.

So is he here?

- No, he actually
just took off.

Took off in a car, like,
15 minutes ago.

- Hmm. Okay.
I don't know what to do.

- Do you want to come out
and meet April?

- Well, sure. Yeah.
I mean, if you don't mind,

I might as well--
obviously this is April and Max.

- Hello. Hi.
- Nice to meet you.

- April has been
talking to Dean,

and they've had
an intense correspondence.

If you could,
it'd be great to, you know,

convince Dean
to meet with her.

- Well, all right.
I can definitely look around

and see if I can
find him for you.

- Okay. Thank you.

- Nice to meet you guys.
See you, and I'll let him know.

- Thank you.
- Bye, guys.

- Bye.

- Why don't we go
back in the car?

- Well, yeah, I would say call
him, but we can't even call him.

- Well, we can Facebook
message him.

- Oh, that's true.

- That's not Dean.
That's not his voice at all.

- Who is that Dakota guy?

What is he--is he changing
his voice on the phone?

- He could be doing a voice.

- Well, let's see.
Is he on?

- He's not active
on Messenger right now.

- Yeah, but you can still
send him a message, right?

- Just say, "Hey?"

- Yeah, just say, "Hey.
We just met Dakota.

Must have just missed you."

- "Still really want
to meet up."

All right.

- Well, I guess
there's not really--

- Wait.
Here comes someone.

- Wait a second, this person
just pulled over right here.

- Is that him?

- And they're backing up to,
like, our car.

[tense music]

- Uh...

- Is that him?
- Who is it?

- I don't know.
- They're getting out.

- Whoa.
- Wait a minute.

- Uh...
- Is that him?

- Who is it?
- I don't know.

- They're getting out though.
- Whoa. Wait a minute.

- Is that food?

- Oh, my God,
it's a false alarm.

- [chuckles]

- Frustrated.

- I know. I know.

I guess it would have been
too easy if he was just here.

- I keep on waiting just, like,
to see him walk up the block.

- All right. Well, look.
Let's I guess just head back.

- Hope that he messages.

- If he gets back to us soon,
we can meet up.

- It's just another
layer of mystery.

- ♪ We are birds
of a different song ♪

- I mean, what if this guy
is just going silent on us now?

Like, that's it?
He's ghosted.

- Again.
- I don't know what to do.

I figure he cared about me
more than that.

- ♪ You and I were made
for the garden but ♪

♪ You and I
were destined to fall ♪

- I mean, it's pretty possible

we go home tomorrow
with nothing.

- ♪ You and I, you and I ♪

[knocking]

- Did you ever
hear anything back?

- No. I didn't get anything.
- He's screwing with you.

- He, like, not even
responding at all.

- I mean, if he happened

to have been out yesterday
when we stopped by,

you'd think he would
have immediately,

upon finding out that
we were there, reached out.

It's just not cool.

- Mm-hmm.
- He should be excited

to meet you.
- Yeah.

- Should we try calling
"Dakota?"

- Yeah. What other option--
- Well, yeah.

I mean he's our point
of contact at this point.

[line ringing]

Yeah, hi, good morning.
Dakota?

Hey, it's Nev again.

We were wondering

if you had a chance
to talk to Dean

since yesterday.

Okay, great.
Thanks.

See ya.

Here we come, Dean.
Ready or not.

- I have done nothing but
be sweet to him for seven years,

and he just pushes me away.

If he is Dean,
maybe he can turn it around

and, like,
get himself together,

and go back to what
he used to be.

Like, I'm still kind
of hoping for that.

I guess I'm just trying
to cling on to something

that made me happy before.

- Round two.

All right, well,
this is for you.

Tell him how you feel,
be direct,

and we'll get through this.

- Okay.

[tense music]

♪ ♪

- Gonna...

♪ ♪

There's lights on,
so that--

♪ ♪

Hi.

- Is it him?

[knocking]

[tense music]

♪ ♪

- Oh.

♪ ♪

Hi.

How you doing?

- Doing all right.
How about you?

- Dean, right?
- Yes, sir.

- Is it him?
- Yeah.

- Good to meet you.
- Nice to meet you too.

- How's it going?
- It's going all right.

All right, well,
come on out, I guess.

Go ahead.

- Hello.
- Hello.

- Hello.

- Not sure what to say.

This is April,
as you know, I presume.

- Hi.
- Hi.

- Oh, God.

- You're you, which is
a surprise for us.

- Yeah.

- Just curious what--

why didn't you meet up
with us yesterday?

- I mean, honestly,
it was just nerves, man.

I just over-thought myself

into a position
where I wasn't comfortable,

and I didn't know if she would
like me or not, you know?

I mean, I was kind of scared
on that aspect, to be honest.

- Okay.

And how old are you?
- I'm 23.

- So that's all true.

And do you really not have
a phone right now?

- No. I don't.

- Okay, and you're just
crashing intermittently?

- Yeah.
- With Dakota?

You don't have
a place to stay?

- I'm getting things together.

Getting, you know, that aspect
of my life under control,

but for the time being
this is where I'm at.

- So everything
you've told April is true?

- Yes, sir.

- Including the unfortunate
passing of your mom?

- Yes.
- Sorry to hear that.

- Is there anything
that hasn't been true?

Any lies that you've told her?

What about some of the other
girls you've been talking to?

- I mean, those are
all just friends.

I'm not looking
for anything right now.

- But we've talked to Zoey,
and it seems like, you know,

you've made
a couple friends online.

Some of whom you've met
in Teen Chat, like April,

but then don't meet up
with them or make plans.

There's just a pattern
of other people

who've had a story like April's.

- The whole thing with Zoey is--
I never really moved past

a point of platonic
interest with her

in the first place.

You know, she has a kid,
stuff like that,

and I'm not looking
to involve that

in the situation
that I'm currently in.

- What is
your current situation?

- I mean,
I'm just trying to get

my stuff together,
so to speak.

- Right.

What are you kind
of working toward?

- Getting my own place.

Getting my license.

I already have a car.
I just need to get it insured.

- So just some basic
kind of adult-y things?

- Yeah.
- Okay.

The big, overall question
I think remains

sort of just WTF, right?

Like, you guys have been
friends for a long time.

Why has she been
so uncertain about, like,

what's going on with you guys,

and why do you disappear
and come back?

- I mean some of the reasons
why I would push myself away

was because my mother wasn't
taking the best care of herself

that she could have been,

and when I was 14 years old
my father split.

And it's recently that
I've begun talking to him again

and, you know, reconnecting,

'cause it's like, you know,
even though my mom's dead,

I'm pretty sure she wouldn't
want me and him, you know,

at each other's throats
to our graves.

So that's why
I pushed myself away,

to protect myself,

so to speak, emotionally,
because, you know,

with everything
that I've got on my plate

I'm trying
to finish that first

before I bring
somebody else in.

- Disappearing really isn't
the answer though.

Like, going silent.

It would have been better
to have an explanation prior

than just going poof.
- True.

- I mean I'm pretty mad at you
for all of the disappearances.

I get that you want
to protect yourself,

but you're also hurting me
when you do it.

You're kind of just
disregarding me,

and it's kind of
a dick move to do that.

It would have--
- Not kind of. It is.

- It would have been
completely solved,

had you just
explained prior.

- You're right.
I should have done that.

- But instead of doing that,
you just kind of, like,

threw me away, you know.

And it hurt a lot,
for a long time.

- You're right.
You're absolutely right.

It's not okay.

I mean, all I can say
is that I'm sorry,

and I was young and stupid.

And I should have went about it
more constructively than I did.

It's time to grow up, man.

It's time to, you know,

be forward with myself
and other people.

- And so what does
that mean then?

I understand you're trying
to get your life together,

but April's
under the impression

that you have
feelings for her.

- You're a little wishy-washy
on your end,

and she's a person
who has options

and can move in whatever
direction she wants.

And I think she needs to know
very clearly where you stand.

- Yeah.
- Do you have feelings for her?

- April's under
the impression

that you have
feelings for her.

- She needs to know
very clearly where you stand.

- Yeah.

- Do you have
feelings for her?

[tense music]

- I do.

Honestly, I've never
connected with somebody

like I have with April.

There's just been nobody else
that makes me feel the way I do

whenever I do talk to her,

and I can honestly say
right now standing next to her

I feel pretty damn great.

I mean, I want to,
you know, keep talking to you.

I'm not gonna go
anywhere anymore.

- But it has to be equal.

I don't want to be
the only one that gives 100%.

It has to be equal.
- It has to be both ways.

- If there is anything at all.

- At this point,
it's between you.

You know, you guys have things
you need to talk about.

- Yes.
- Yes.

- So just, like, hang out.

Feel things out,

and then when you get
on that plane hopefully

there's a little more resolve.

- Do your thing without us,

and we'll just hang out
for a minute.

- Okay.

With all
of the disappearances

it makes me feel like [bleep]

not talking to you sometimes.

- And that's why I'm not
doing that anymore.

I mean, I can't do that to you,
and I can't do that to myself,

and I realize
I was wrong about it.

And I am a thousand times over
completely sorry

for being so stupid
and short-sighted.

What do you want to do?

Do you want
to move past everything

that has been in the past

and not exactly start
completely fresh,

but at least
go into this knowing

that both of us are gonna
give it our all, no matter what?

- I'd be willing
to go into this knowing

that we've had our issues.

We're moving past it,

and we're trying to better
each other, not just ourselves.

This needs to become more
of a mature relationship.

You've always been one of my
closest friends throughout life.

We've always been close.

We've almost told each other
almost everything, you know?

- I mean, I don't want you
out of my life.

- I completely
concur with that.

This talk has shown me
that you actually do care.

You are here, you are you,
and it means a lot.

And I'd like to continue forward
in whatever that may mean.

- Same here.

- ♪ We will be like
shooting stars ♪

♪ Burning as we fall ♪

♪ Lighting up the dark ♪

- What happened?
- What did we miss?

- We talked about everything,
and I mean, in all honesty,

we're not exactly sure

where we're at,
as for, you know,

the relationship
or friendship aspect,

but we are for sure
that we want each other,

you know, to be
a part of our lives.

No matter what, we're always
gonna be there for each other.

Through thick and thin.

- So we're in a good place then?
both: Yeah.

- Well, good to meet you.

- It was nice
to meet you too.

- Thanks for showing up.
- Nice to meet you.

- Nice to meet you too.
- Thanks for being real.

- Being real.
- Come here.

I'll talk to you later.
- All right, definitely.

- See you.

- ♪ We will fall ♪

- I feel like
I've gotten my answers.

I'm willing to give it 100%

and my full effort,
as long as he is,

and hopefully
that will continue forward.

[ringing]

- April.
- Hey.

- Hey.
-Hey.

- How have you been?

- I've been
really good lately.

I'm kind of
in a relationship.

- You are?
- Oh!

Well, that's great,
so you got a boyfriend.

- Yeah.
- That's amazing.

- What about Dean?
- We're still close friends.

We still talk and gossip
to each other a lot.

I have told them
about each other,

because I wanted it to be,
like, open.

- And was Dean, like,
kind of sad?

- He was kind of sad,

but he was happy
that I found someone.

- Yeah, well, that's
great that you guys

have managed to salvage
a real friendship out of it.

- Yes.

- Well, I'm really
happy for you.

Sounds like things
are working out.

- Yeah.
Thank you. Bye.

- Bye.

[ringing]

both: Oh!
[laughter]

- Was your hair that
color last time?

- No, it was
a different color.

It just faded.

- What's up, man?
How you doing?

- Doing pretty good.

Getting my life together

and, you know,
just trying to move forward.

- What about April?
How are things with her?

- I've been trying
to talk to her.

Sometimes we both get
caught up in our own lives,

in ourselves,
we get busy.

It's understandable
that we can't talk every day,

but it would be nice
if we, you know,

talked a little more
often than we do.

- We heard she has
a boyfriend now.

- Yeah.
- How do you feel about that?

- Eh. I mean,
I want the best for her.

I want her to be happy.

I'm not the jealous type
or anything like that.

I know that me and her will
always retain a friendship,

no matter what, and
I want her to live her life.

I want to see her
do good for herself.

- Nice.
Well, look, man.

Glad to hear things
are going well, and yeah,

hopefully we'll hear
from you soon.

- You guys take care.
- Later.

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