Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 4, Episode 8 - Whitney & Bre - full transcript
After meeting on an LGBT site four years ago, a couple has yet to even engage in a video chat.
>> I'm so confused.
Or I'm not.
She played us.
>> We figured it out.
>> But we're here.
>> Did she really think we
wouldn't figure it out?
I just can't believe this.
So what do we do?
>> What do you guys think
we should do?
>> What should we do?
>> This is definitely
a Catfish first.
"Catfish puppet parody."
Here it is.
>> Welcome back to Catfish.
Oh, look, an email.
Let's read it.
>> I love this girl
from the internet.
Call me, brah.
[laughter]
We talk every day, but she
doesn't video chat.
>> That came out yesterday.
>> It just came out, yeah, yeah.
Oh, look, we got an email, Max.
[laughter]
"East to West: Is Love
in Between?"
"Hi, Nev and Max, my name
is Whitney.
I am 27, and I live in
Brooklyn, New York.
Currently I live with my family,
and I am a closer at Wendy's.
I have been in an on-again,
off-again relationship with Bre,
who lives in California.
Four years ago, I met Bre on
a social media site called
Downelink.
I fell in love with Bre
because she gets me.
The only thing that keeps us
apart is the distance."
>> * Like a chest
* Of hidden gold
* Shimmers in the depths below
>> "I fell in love with someone
who I have not met, but we both
agree that if we were close,
we would be official."
>> *We are fire *
* And our love will burn
* Oh oh oh
* We will glow
>> "I have tried to video chat
with Bre, but it never
works out.
There's always an excuse
why she can't."
>> Four years, that's a lot
of different...
>> If you've been talking for
that long and you can't
video chat with someone...
>> Then get a new girlfriend.
>> "Within the four years,
I have only accumulated
a few pictures of her.
I have asked her to be friends
on Facebook, but it just never
worked out."
>> I've never heard of the
excuses to like, "Friend me
on Facebook."
"I--I will.
I'll friend you later today."
>> Yeah, we got some serious
problems already.
"I love her because she is
my best friend, but I am
at a standstill.
I need to know if there is ever
going to be a real relationship
between us, and it's now
or never.
Hope to talk to you soon."
I think we should call Whitney.
Let's do it.
[line trilling]
>> Whitney.
>> Yo!
>> Hey.
>> What up, Brooklyn?
>> Yeah, Brooklyn is in
the house.
>> And what neighborhood did
you say you live in?
>> I live in Bed-Stuy
with four of my brothers
and my mom.
>> What do you do in Bed-Stuy?
Oh, you work at Wendy's.
>> I'm working there now, yes,
but I want to go back to school
for culinary arts.
>> What is it about Bre's
personality that you like
so much?
>> We like a lot of the same
things, like, a lot of the
same things, as far as music,
movies, art.
She gets me.
Like, she's funny.
Even when I don't want to smile,
she makes me.
She's my best friend.
>> Are you talking to Bre
on the phone?
>> Yes.
>> You've heard her voice.
>> Yes, we talk and text.
>> How has this girl evaded you?
>> One, she lives in California,
and the distance,
it's the big factor.
I'm, like, the sole breadwinner
in my house right now.
>> For your mom and your
brothers?
>> Yes, I'm the oldest.
And I do, like, six days a week,
overtime if I have to.
>> So you guys are on a pretty
tight budget.
>> Pretty much, yeah.
>> Why can't she come visit you?
>> Money is the whole issue
with her also.
>> Have you tried to video chat
with her?
>> I've downloaded ooVoo,
Skype, Tango, but nothing has
been successful.
There's either been a problem
with, like, Wi-Fi connections
or phones being broken.
>> Maybe four years ago,
those excuses worked better.
>> Four years is way too much
time, but, you know...
It's either now or never.
I want to know if our love is
true love, or is it just really,
you know, four years on
a phone conversation.
>> All right, so, look,
here's what's up.
I think we're gonna have to come
to Brooklyn...
>> Okay.
>> See if we can figure out
how to track down Bre.
>> If she's in California,
we'll take you to meet her.
>> That would be great.
At this moment, I think I'm
ready for anything right now.
>> All right, cool.
>> Bye, Whitney.
She's sweet.
>> Working hard, taking care
of her family.
>> She's, like, a good role
model.
>> Yeah.
>> Let's go.
New York.
First episode in New York.
>> Yeah.
>> Ever.
[dance music playing]
*
>> * Day one
* Told you I had a past
* You fell in love
* You fell in love
* Baby, didn't I tell you so? *
>> Made it.
*
>> * Don't dance *
* With the devil
>> Well, I can't believe we're
in New York.
Whitney doesn't have it easy,
but she's not throwing herself
a pity party.
She's tough.
Maybe she's tough because she's
got this beautiful fantasy
she can escape to.
>> Yeah.
>> Don't slip on the ice.
[line trilling]
>> Hello, it's Nev and Max.
This is what I love about
New York, is, you got to find
a place for things,
wherever they can fit.
Fire escape shoe holder.
Hi.
>> How are you?
>> Hi.
>> This is nice.
>> This is so surreal.
I feel like I'm watching TV
with you, and I'm watching
you guys.
>> I feel like I'm stuck
in a TV.
[laughter]
>> All right, so, of all the
people you could go out with
in New York City, why are you
in love with someone
in California?
>> I got to know her, like,
mentally, emotionally.
I became her friend before
we moved to the love stage.
We're falling asleep on the
phone with each other,
and things like that.
It's like, "I'm really,
really liking you."
I love her.
I've had my heart broken
more than once, and I still
believe in love.
>> A girl after your own
heart, Nev.
>> Have you guys talked about
trying to be together somehow?
>> Yeah, either I move out there
or she comes out here.
>> You would move to
California?
>> I wouldn't want to just jump
and move.
I would rather, like,
visit first.
>> Does she talk about her work
or what she does?
>> Yeah, she talks about--
>> Or her family, or?
>> She's not working right now.
>> What did she do
when she is working?
>> She was an exotic dancer.
>> She was what?
>> She was an exotic dancer.
>> She was what?
>> She was a stripper!
>> Yeah.
[laughter]
Why isn't she dancing anymore?
>> She stopped because she wants
to go back to school.
>> Why don't you show us?
>> The two pictures that I have
of her are--this is one.
>> Oh, okay, here we go.
Very pretty.
>> Hello, Bre.
>> Oh, wow.
So you saw those pictures,
and you thought...
>> Like, oh, she's pretty.
>> Oh.
>> Yeah.
>> And that's all you've seen
of her in the last four years?
>> Yeah.
>> It's odd that someone who is
an exhibitionist by profession,
that you only have two pictures.
Don't you think there's
something a little off?
>> It is a little odd
and a little off.
>> You ever feel like she's
not telling you something?
>> I want to say yes, but then
it's like no, because I don't
like being lied to.
I don't ask for nothing else.
Just don't lie to me.
I hope that I'm getting
what I give.
Because I'm being genuine with
you, I expect for you to be
genuine with me 100%.
So hopefully that's the case
that's going on.
If not...
four years of trust
and not getting it back,
that would be really hurtful
to me, because I don't trust
too many people.
>> Even though you met on
an internet dating site,
Bre seems to not have any
profile on any other website.
>> Yeah.
I've asked her, like,
"Request me on Facebook."
She was like, "Okay, no
problem."
In that same time, I've had
a death in my family
that happened, and I just, like,
basically disconnected myself
from the world.
She was like, "Okay, I sent you
a request," so I'm like, "Okay,
whenever I get back online,
I'll look at it."
So when I finally did get back
online, I had, like, 30 or 40
friend requests.
I just accepted them all,
because I didn't know which one
was her.
Like, a lot of people didn't
have their names there.
>> You could be friends with her
and not know it.
>> Yeah.
>> I want to go through
your friends on Facebook.
>> Okay.
>> So write down your
login info.
What you've got is her
current phone number.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> You know her name,
or what you think is her name.
>> I know she has a tattoo
on her leg that says,
"Luscious."
>> It says, "Luscious"?
>> Yeah.
>> So that's not a ton of info,
but it's something
to get started.
I want to help you
go on this trip.
I think you deserve the
experience, no matter
what happens.
>> Okay.
>> I am--fingers crossed--
hoping this works out.
>> All right, let's go make sure
that she is who she says she is.
>> Nice meeting you.
>> Nice to meet you too.
>> What's the deal?
>> She's gonna fall hard if Bre
is not being 100%.
>> It sounds like these two
people really could love
each other.
>> Yeah, it sounds like they
have a true connection.
>> Right, and yet, there is this
very likely element that Bre is
not the girl in those two
pictures that Whitney saw,
and the whole relationship could
come crumbling apart.
>> It could.
>> Come into my suite.
>> Is this what happens when
you're the star of the show?
'Cause I didn't get
a room like this.
>> Didn't get this room, Max?
>> No, whoa.
>> Look at this view.
>> Look at that.
Wow.
I'm taking off my jacket.
Nev, sit your ass down.
>> All right, here we go.
>> Let's get this investigation
under way.
>> All right, so 4 1/2 years
ago, Whitney is looking for
love.
She goes on an LGBT dating
website.
She finds herself talking
to Brenell, AKA Bre.
They exchange phone numbers.
>> They're soul mates.
>> But we've got two people who
are separated by 3,000 miles,
which makes meeting up hard,
not to mention that they both
have difficult financial
situations.
More than that, Bre is tough
to pin down.
She doesn't have any social
media pages.
>> She won't video chat.
They talk, though, so it's
a woman's voice she's hearing.
It's something.
>> Let's start things off
with a phone search.
Here we go.
Searching.
What do we got?
Ah, we got an L.A. phone number,
which is a good start.
>> That's promising.
Oh, it's a VoIP.
>> Like a Google Voice number.
>> Yeah.
>> Bre's always saying that she
doesn't have Wi-Fi or that she's
having problems with her Wi-Fi,
and that's why she can't
go online, and yet, when she's
saying that, she's using Wi-Fi,
because the number she's
currently--
>> Only works on the Wi-Fi.
>> Right.
>> So she's been lying about
not having Wi-Fi.
She's finding excuses not
to video chat, which means she's
not the person in the pictures.
>> It's a possibility.
>> What if you look up
the email?
Brenell [bleep].
>> Okay, so here's
a Brenell Twitter.
Los Angeles.
That's great.
>> She lives where she
says she lives.
This could be her.
>> She's cute.
>> I think Whitney
would still go for her.
>> Here's a YouTube page,
a clip of what looks like her
twerking.
>> She knows how to clap
them thighs.
She said that Bre was
an exotic dancer.
>> She goes by her name.
She lives in California.
She's just not the girl in
the two pictures that she sent.
>> No.
>> What else do we have?
>> Why don't you Google Image
search those pictures
that Whitney gave us.
>> Searching a picture.
No, no hits on that.
All right, here's the other one.
Searching.
>> Oh, we got one.
We got a match.
>> Instagram account.
Kash [bleep].
This is the girl from the
pictures.
>> There's a Facebook account.
>> Whoa.
>> The first thing we see are
the two pictures that have been
sent to Whitney.
>> She seems to be in L.A.
We have two girls that we've
found, one named Brenell
[bleep], who doesn't look like
the girl in the pictures
but lives in L.A.
Then we found the girl in the
pictures...
>> Right.
>> That Whitney gave us.
>> Kash [bleep] seems pretty
legit, because not only does she
have an Instagram, but...
>> There's a Facebook account.
>> There's a Facebook.
>> I'm curious if they know
each other.
>> Why do you think that?
>> Because they live in the
exact same part of California.
>> And so they know each other?
>> If one is using pictures
of the other, then I would
suspect that, like--
It's a big coincidence.
>> True, I guess that's
possible, right.
Maybe they're friends
on Facebook.
>> And she thinks that this girl
is maybe pretty,
or prettier than her.
>> She might even have
a crush on her.
>> Or maybe they're doing this
as a prank?
>> Who knows, right?
>> Who knows?
>> Kash is somehow linked
to all this, because her
pictures are being sent
to Whitney.
So I think we should reach out
to Kash, ask her what she knows
about Brenell, see what we
can find out.
"Hey, Kash, this is Nev
from the MTV show Catfish.
It appears someone might be
using your photos.
We would love to speak with you
to clear this up, thanks."
>> Send it.
>> Sent.
We don't have all the
answers yet.
I think Whitney's gonna be upset
when she finds out that the girl
in the pictures is not the girl
she's talking to.
>> We don't know why she's
lying, and that's the one thing
Whitney said: "My only big
deal-breaker is being lied to."
She did say that.
>> Everyone says that.
Let's wait to hear back
from Kash and go from there.
That was good work, dude.
[knock at door]
>> [laughs]
>> Ahh!
>> Aah!
>> [laughs]
Wow, I can't believe that
worked.
That's what this is for.
This is the scare hole.
>> Did you get an email?
Here we go.
>> Oh, Kash [bleep].
>> She wrote back, "Hi, Nev,
I got your message.
Call me when you can."
>> So what are we're gonna
ask her?
>> First of all, we need to ask
her if she's in a relationship
with a girl named Whitney.
>> And if she's not talking
to Whitney, does she know
Brenell?
>> All right, here we go.
>> Hey, good morning,
it's Nev and Max from Catfish.
>> Hey, how's it going?
>> Do you know a girl
named Whitney?
>> The next question we had
for you was, do you know
a young lady named Brenell?
She goes by Bre, but Brenell--
>> Oh, okay.
>> Has anyone online ever been
using your profile picture?
>> What was her explanation?
>> Did Bre ever tell you if she
met anyone using your photos?
>> We were trying to find some,
like, social media pages
for Bre.
>> Lucious B [bleep].
All right, well, look, it was
really nice to meet you.
Thank you for your help.
>> Let's look up her
Facebook page.
Oh, here she is.
Oh, boy.
Here's that picture that we saw.
Ready, remember?
Whoa.
>> Whoa.
>> She was a stripper.
>> There's the "lucious" tattoo.
>> Yeah, this is the girl.
Now we know Brenell's
real Facebook page.
I'm willing to bet...
>> That she's already friends
with Whitney.
>> Let's go to her friends.
Let's just look at her friends.
>> Brenell's friends?
>> Yeah.
>> All right, let's see
who she's following.
>> Oh, oh.
>> Not friends there.
>> They may not be friends
right now, but it's possible
that at one point they may have
sent messages.
Let's log in to Whitney's
Facebook page.
>> So now we're gonna creep
through her messages.
>> Well, we're not gonna creep.
We're just gonna look.
We can search Whitney's
messages, look.
>> We can?
>> Yeah.
Wait a second.
Here's a message between Whitney
and Lucious B [bleep].
>> They've talked.
>> So Lucious said, "Hey, boo,
how is everything going?
Where are you now?"
>> What year is this from?
>> This is 2011.
>> How far does it go?
>> It goes--whoa.
Oh, my god, wow, they talked
a lot.
>> Wait, this is a full
relationship.
Do they know each other?
Look, 2014.
>> Oh, my god.
>> They were talking
in December.
January 19th.
That was a week ago.
Do you think Whitney
is messing with us?
Is that what's happening
right now?
>> "Hey, luv, get on ooVoo?"
Luv?
>> Wait, get on ooVoo?
I thought she couldn't
get on ooVoo.
>> That doesn't make any sense.
>> It looks like they've been
video chatting since 2011.
>> Do you think Whitney just--
Whitney and Brenell
talk extensively.
They're having an almost daily
exchange for the past
four years.
>> I'm so confused.
Or I'm not.
>> She's lying to us.
She's got to be lying to us.
She's got to know that Lucious
is Brenell [bleep].
They're very good friends.
>> So Whitney is screwing
with us.
She's--she played us.
>> We figured it out.
>> But we're here.
We got catfished.
Whitney--is that even
her real name?
>> We don't even know if
anything she's told us is real.
>> I mean, we don't even know
if they're in love.
>> Did they want to be on TV?
>> Yeah, Lucious...
>> She's got a career maybe
she's trying to pursue.
>> Lucious is no stranger
to the camera.
There have to be easier ways
to meet than to write into
a television show.
They're using us for a plane
ticket.
>> Did she really think we
wouldn't figure it out?
I just can't believe this.
So what do we do?
>> What do you guys think
we should do?
>> And then the episode
just ends?
>> Yeah, let's, like, watch her
squirm a little bit.
If she cops to it and it's
a love story and she just
desperately wants to meet this
person and the show is her only
way to do it, we've got to
double--triple-check that.
>> Let's call Whitney, and let's
just sort of take it one step
at a time.
[line trilling]
>> Hello, Whitney.
>> Good morning.
>> How you feeling?
Are you nervous?
>> What are you nervous about?
>> All right, well, we've been
working last night and
a little bit today.
We got some interesting topics
and things to discuss.
So we were hoping we could come
meet up with you and talk.
>> We'll see you in a bit.
>> Okay.
They did a good job getting us
here, but they didn't do
such a good job--
>> They didn't cover their
tracks.
>> This is definitely
a Catfish first.
>> * Walking down
* The hall again
>> What is she gonna say?
What is her excuse gonna be?
>> I'm mostly just torn up
because I liked Whitney so much
when we hung out with her
yesterday, and now it's, like,
actually two people who are just
using us to get something
that they want.
>> We've got an
interrogation on our hands.
>> So...
We are being played by Whitney.
>> We've already established
that Whitney is capable
of great deceit.
So we have to really question
everything she says.
>> So how are we gonna
play this?
>> I think we're gonna show
Whitney a couple of the things
that we found, and as we're
doing it, see if she has
an answer for it.
>> You ready to do this?
Ready to bust a catfish?
>> I mean, I don't think
we have a choice.
[line trilling]
>> Hello, hey, it's us.
[door buzzes]
>> Hey.
>> How you doing?
>> I'm good.
I was, like, really,
really nervous.
You guys are like CSI.
I was like, "What did they
find out?
What happened?"
>> Well, what were your
big concerns?
>> Her being who she says
she is, because I expect--
like, I give the truth,
so I expect the truth back.
If you're gonna lie to me,
it's like, "Why?
What's the purpose of you
lying?"
>> Sometimes you lie to put
yourself in a position
to get what you want.
>> You lie about something,
you're gonna have to keep
telling another lie on top of
that one, on top of that one.
It makes no sense, because
at the end of the day,
you're gonna probably even
forget the first lie you told
or forget the last lie
you told, and eventually the
truth is gonna come out anyway.
So why not just save all the
headache and just get it
over with?
>> Well, we did some
investigating, and...
>> I think we probably have more
questions...
>> Yeah.
>> Than anything at this point.
>> Okay.
>> So why don't we go through
what we found?
You can tell us what makes sense
to you and help explain things.
>> Okay.
>> We ran this image.
The most promising lead that it
gave us was for an Instagram
for someone who goes by the name
Kash [bleep].
We found a Facebook page
for Kash.
And lo and behold, the two
pictures that you can see...
>> Are the ones that I have.
>> Are the ones that you have.
>> [sighs]
Um...I would have thought,
personally, like, of all the
people, Brenell would at least
tell me the truth about
everything.
>> We spoke to Kash.
She does know Bre, and she did
know that Bre has a Facebook
account, and she told us the
name of that, and she said,
it's Lucious B [bleep].
This is Bre.
Have you ever seen this
person before?
>> No.
>> And you'd remember a name
like Lucious B, right?
>> Yeah, yeah, like, I remember
the tattoo.
So that is something that
I would remember.
>> If we scroll through
pictures, boom, "lucious."
>> Wow.
>> So then we thought, could it
be that you're actually
friends with Lucious?
>> I don't know this page.
>> You sure?
>> I have, like, over 1,000
friends on my page.
>> We searched Brenell's
friends, and we didn't see
anything, but then we went into
your messages.
If you had messaged with her
at one point, like, maybe she
just said, "Hi," or, "Hey,
what's up," might still be
buried.
>> Right, messages remain,
even if your friend
de-friends you.
>> Anyway, so we were looking
through your messages,
and basically we found these.
A little over four years of
conversation.
>> 55 pages...
between you and Lucious B
[bleep], going all the way up
to a week ago.
There are times where you ask
to go on ooVoo or Skype.
>> Right.
>> And it looks like you guys
got on with each other.
>> Right.
>> No, I haven't been on
with her.
>> Come on.
>> Yeah--well, this person,
her name is, um...
[clicking tongue]
>> Come on.
>> I didn't hit you up
to do this.
That's what's going on.
>> All right, you want to tell
us what that means?
>> Yes.
She basically hit the show up
to basically try to see me.
>> Okay.
>> And I was like, "Why you
do that?
I want to see you too, but,
like, this is crazy."
Everything just went haywire
from there, and now we're here.
>> You lied to the show so that
you could come on and then
meet each other in person.
>> Yeah.
>> Here's the dilemma.
We've now sat with you for
probably a total of five hours
and listened to 100% lies,
you looking us dead in the eye
and lying to us.
We're in this position that you
so well articulated, that you
don't like being lied to,
because when someone lies to
you, you don't know what's
true and what's not.
And we don't exactly want to air
a show where we get tricked
by two people who may just want
their 15 minutes of fame.
So this is your final shot
to tell us the truth.
>> All right.
>> What's the nature of your
relationship with Bre?
>> We've been talking on and off
for about four years.
>> Are you in love with her?
>> I am in love with her.
She's there, I'm here.
I'm trying to figure out even if
I want to stay in New York
or not.
I want to see her to make sure
that if I do decide to move
to California, that I'm gonna be
with her and everything is what
she says it is and what we
want it to be.
>> There have to be easier ways
to arrange to see one another.
>> I know I won't be able to
afford a ticket to go to
California.
Like, I know that.
I'm, like, the sole breadwinner
in my household right now.
>> We've never been in this
position.
The authenticity of our show has
really been, you know, sort of
compromised.
We need some time to figure out
how we feel.
I think you need some time to
figure out how you feel,
considering this all just
came to light.
We're gonna talk to Bre.
We're gonna hear what she has
to say about this.
We'll check back in with you,
maybe tonight, maybe tomorrow.
>> All right.
>> Okay.
See you later.
>> Bye.
>> Bye.
>> I just always get so freaked
out when people just can sit
across from you and lie
like that.
>> * I have left my only son
* And he is so all alone
>> I don't know now how to
evaluate the situation.
Could it be a love story or
just 15 minutes of fame?
>> Well, I think it's gonna be
really interesting to see what
Bre has to say about all this.
We got to make sure
the stories match up.
>> Here we are in Brooklyn.
The question is, are we going to
take Whitney to L.A.?
>> Frankly, we don't know if we
have an episode here.
>> Right, but let's give them
a ring.
[line trilling]
>> Hey, Marshall, how you doing?
>> Good.
>> As you know, we're shooting
an episode right now in
Brooklyn.
We had a bit of a curveball.
We discovered that Bre and
Whitney are actually friends.
They've sent each other hundreds
and hundreds of messages over
the past four years.
>> And they've been Skyping,
and they conspired to get
on the show.
>> Yes, so now we're in
a position where we need to
decide what to do, because we're
making this show about these
people who don't necessarily
need our help.
But there's still a chance that
these two women could really
be in love with each other.
We're a little uncertain about
what the next move should be.
>> When we first met her,
we thought her story was
really sincere, and...
>> She--
>> She really won us over.
>> She's hard-working,
single-handedly supports her
four brothers and her mom.
She's, like, the underdog hero
that everyone wants to root for.
We don't really know now how we
feel about her, because I'm not
even sure what to believe about
anything she's told us.
>> Yeah, we've all been
catfished.
>> Right.
>> All right, speak soon.
Bye-bye.
>> It's up to us.
>> I think the thing that I've
been waiting and most anxious
about is speaking to Bre.
All right, let's call her.
[line trilling]
>> Hello, is this Brenell?
>> Hi, this is Nev and Max
from the show Catfish.
I'm not sure if you spoke to
Whitney last night.
Okay, so you basically know,
then, that we discovered that
you guys actually do know each
other and that this was a lie
that you guys put together,
and so we were just curious
to get your side of the story.
>> You have ooVoo'd or
video chatted, right?
>> We're in an interesting
situation now, because we're
a little upset that you guys
sort of tried to pull one over
on us, and kind of did.
Even though sections of your
story are obviously true,
we're starting to feel like
maybe you guys were just
interested in being
on a TV show.
>> It's such a crazy idea to me.
The way you guys were gonna meet
was that you were gonna get
yourselves on to this
reality show.
>> Here, this is Max.
I'm all for bringing you guys
together, but we want to know
now that you're serious.
>> You know, this is all kind of
happening fast for us,
trying to figure out what to do
on our side of things.
But we're gonna go talk to
Whitney again today and make
a decision based on that.
>> She said all the right
things.
That's what we wanted
from Whitney yesterday.
>> Right, I just want to know
if this could really be
a true love story.
>> I am gonna hold out
until we talk to Whitney.
>> Let's head over to Whitney's
and see what she has to say.
>> What she's got to say.
>> * Empty my mind
* Just to see what's left *
>> Well, it'll be interesting to
see if Whitney's got
a different story to tell today.
>> Well, she's had all night to
kind of process what happened
and talk to Bre.
>> * Get a fever in your soul
* Walk the night alone
>> All right, let's see
what she's got to say.
She better make it good.
>> * Got a fever in my soul
* Walk the night alone
>> How you doing?
>> Good day.
>> Hey.
>> What's going on?
>> I had some time to think
about it, and...
Well, I felt really, really bad,
like, lying to you guys.
It felt horrible.
So I want to apologize
to you guys again.
It felt like maybe this is,
like, the only time that I'll
probably be able to get this
chance to even see you.
So I went along with it.
I love her.
She's been there with me
every step of the way.
When I was having problems with,
like, my family, the one person
I could talk to was her.
The whole thing on my mind was,
like, "Yo, I'm really gonna
see her, like, I'm really
gonna see her," and, like,
it just came from a lie, though,
instead of the truth.
>> We spoke to her this morning.
She seemed really sweet.
She was also very apologetic
and painted a very beautiful
picture of your relationship
together, how much meeting you
is really what she wants
and how she really cares
about you.
So I think, for me, we're here,
we're in this situation.
This is not the kind of thing
that happens a lot.
I mean, everything about this
is sort of backwards.
But I believe that, at the core,
two young people who really
care about each other.
>> Yeah.
>> If you guys came this far
because you wanted to meet
each other, and got to
the second day of the show
without anyone realizing
what you were doing, then that
definitely shows a lot of
motivation and initiative
to--to meet each other.
Like, clearly there's a passion
there.
>> I think we believe that
you're sorry.
I know that I, for one,
forgive you.
We're in a position to bring
you guys together.
I'm ready to do that,
if you guys are.
>> I'm ready for it.
>> That's the first time
I've seen you smile.
>> Now you can, like, be hon--
like, be open about it, yeah.
>> This is awesome.
>> It really is.
You ever been so happy,
like, your ribs hurt?
[laughs]
I want to see Bre.
[laughs]
Thank you.
>> Ah.
>> You too, Max.
>> Get over here.
This is gonna be really fun.
We'll take you to
the west coast.
>> Okay.
>> The best coast.
[laughter]
[atmospheric pop music]
*
>> * Compass points you home
* Calling out from the east
>> Oh, I'm so excited.
Like, I feel butterflies and,
like, my heart is, like,
pounding.
>> * Where you are, I will be
* Anywhere, in-between
>> [sighs]
>> * Taking all the badges
* Build ourselves a mansion
* Love you in the way
* That you needed love
* Where you are, I will be
* Compass points you anywhere
* Closer to me
* Where you are, I will be
>> This episode of Catfish:
The TV Show continues now.
>> * The green mermaid
* And the wavy mane
>> Saddle up.
>> Okay, thank you.
>> * Riding a unicorn
* Through your Dali
* The free fantasy
>> Are you excited?
4 1/2 years now almost, right?
>> I'm over-excited.
Like, my cheeks hurt, like...
Oh, wow.
My heart is, like, pounding
uncontrollably.
>> She is here somewhere.
Whenever you're ready,
we should just--
>> I'm ready.
I'm as ready as I'll ever be,
so I'm ready.
Wow.
>> All right?
>> Yeah.
>> Want to take off your
seatbelt?
>> Oh, yeah.
I can't--
>> She's just strapping in.
>> All right, so let's do it.
I think that's her.
>> I think that's her,
sitting there.
>> Looking very glamorous.
>> Yeah, that is her.
>> Oh, my goodness.
She's looking fine, huh?
[laughter]
Here she comes.
>> Hey.
>> Take it away.
It's all you.
Wow.
>> Come here.
Hey.
[laughter]
>> Oh, my god.
Oh, my god.
Oh, my god.
>> Oh, my god, my glasses.
Hold on, come here.
[laughter]
>> Oh, my god!
Ah!
I can't believe it.
Oh, I'm shaking.
>> We didn't do--
>> Well, we got her here.
>> Oh, my god.
Oh, my god.
I got lipstick all on your
shirt.
Oh, my god, I got lipstick
everywhere.
>> It's all right.
>> Hi.
>> Hi.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> I'm, like, shaking right now.
>> Take a little tissue here.
[laughter]
Yeah, clean her up, will you?
>> This is cute.
>> You know, normally in these
situations, we're asking
questions because we don't know
what's true and false,
but I think--it sounds like
everything we know about you--
>> It's true.
Just the lie that, you know,
that I told to be here.
>> You guys did a pretty
good job.
You pulled one over on us,
for the most part.
>> I'm sorry.
>> I know.
>> But you didn't tell her to
delete your conversation
on Facebook.
>> No, I didn't delete
mine either.
Those conversations is--
I can never delete, like--
That's part of my life.
I tell this woman everything.
>> I mean, can you believe that
it worked out?
Did you really think it was
actually gonna happen?
>> No, but I'm glad it did.
I really want to thank you guys
and say sorry at the same time.
Like--ah!
>> So you two take some time,
enjoy the day.
We'll see you later.
Snack, whatever, do your thing.
>> I can't believe it.
My Teddy.
>> Yes.
>> Oh, my gosh.
Was it really worth the wait?
>> Yes, yes.
Ye-heh-es.
>> [laughs]
I'm excited.
>> Aw.
>> What?
>> I really love you.
Like, I love the [bleep]
out of you, for real.
I promise.
This is, like, the start
of everything right now.
>> Mm-hmm.
So come, go take a walk.
>> All right.
>> * I want to be a shadow
>> Even though we got catfished,
I think it was a catfish
for good and it was worth it.
>> It was a catfish for good.
>> 'Cause look how--these ladies
are really in love.
I'm just happy that two people
met each other, and even though
we got sort of roped into it,
love finds a way.
>> * I want to be a shadow
>> This is amazing.
It's, like, the best day
of my life.
>> Hey-o!
>> Hey!
>> Hey, what's going on?
>> How's it going?
You're still in Brooklyn.
>> Yeah.
>> How are things with you and
work and your family?
>> Work is actually great.
Like, my family, I talk to them
more about Bre.
I can't wait for her to meet
them.
She's actually planning on
coming out here soon,
and then the month after she
comes out here, I'm gonna
be out there.
>> And the relationship is...
>> It's good?
>> Yeah, it's great, actually.
>> What did we miss?
>> Yeah, did you guys get it on,
or what?
>> [laughs]
>> That's private.
>> No, it's not private,
not when--she owes us.
>> Did you see who came
down that hill?
Like, yeah.
>> Why don't we add Bre
to the call?
Add people.
>> Hey!
Whoa!
>> How is everything, Bre?
>> I'm great, never been better.
>> Looks like, and it sounds
like you guys are a couple.
>> You might as well say it,
but we don't put a title on it.
It just is what it is.
>> Are you guys in love?
>> Of course I love her, yeah.
>> So then there you go.
What lesson did we learn?
>> Just keep it honest, so true.
>> You guys had a beautiful,
pure intention, and you did
a little bit of, you know,
finagling to get what you
needed, but in the end, I think
it was worth it for all of us.
We're really happy for you guys.
Nice to see you both.
Good luck with everything.
>> Later, guys.
>> Bye.
>> It's a little unusual.
Two people are talking online,
and one of them says, "Hey,
let's meet on Catfish."
"I think it's the only way I
will find out what she isn't
telling me and if we can take it
to the next level."
>> But you trust her?
>> I do, I trust her.
>> The harder it is to find
that secret, the more sinister
that secret seems.
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00:41:04.
Or I'm not.
She played us.
>> We figured it out.
>> But we're here.
>> Did she really think we
wouldn't figure it out?
I just can't believe this.
So what do we do?
>> What do you guys think
we should do?
>> What should we do?
>> This is definitely
a Catfish first.
"Catfish puppet parody."
Here it is.
>> Welcome back to Catfish.
Oh, look, an email.
Let's read it.
>> I love this girl
from the internet.
Call me, brah.
[laughter]
We talk every day, but she
doesn't video chat.
>> That came out yesterday.
>> It just came out, yeah, yeah.
Oh, look, we got an email, Max.
[laughter]
"East to West: Is Love
in Between?"
"Hi, Nev and Max, my name
is Whitney.
I am 27, and I live in
Brooklyn, New York.
Currently I live with my family,
and I am a closer at Wendy's.
I have been in an on-again,
off-again relationship with Bre,
who lives in California.
Four years ago, I met Bre on
a social media site called
Downelink.
I fell in love with Bre
because she gets me.
The only thing that keeps us
apart is the distance."
>> * Like a chest
* Of hidden gold
* Shimmers in the depths below
>> "I fell in love with someone
who I have not met, but we both
agree that if we were close,
we would be official."
>> *We are fire *
* And our love will burn
* Oh oh oh
* We will glow
>> "I have tried to video chat
with Bre, but it never
works out.
There's always an excuse
why she can't."
>> Four years, that's a lot
of different...
>> If you've been talking for
that long and you can't
video chat with someone...
>> Then get a new girlfriend.
>> "Within the four years,
I have only accumulated
a few pictures of her.
I have asked her to be friends
on Facebook, but it just never
worked out."
>> I've never heard of the
excuses to like, "Friend me
on Facebook."
"I--I will.
I'll friend you later today."
>> Yeah, we got some serious
problems already.
"I love her because she is
my best friend, but I am
at a standstill.
I need to know if there is ever
going to be a real relationship
between us, and it's now
or never.
Hope to talk to you soon."
I think we should call Whitney.
Let's do it.
[line trilling]
>> Whitney.
>> Yo!
>> Hey.
>> What up, Brooklyn?
>> Yeah, Brooklyn is in
the house.
>> And what neighborhood did
you say you live in?
>> I live in Bed-Stuy
with four of my brothers
and my mom.
>> What do you do in Bed-Stuy?
Oh, you work at Wendy's.
>> I'm working there now, yes,
but I want to go back to school
for culinary arts.
>> What is it about Bre's
personality that you like
so much?
>> We like a lot of the same
things, like, a lot of the
same things, as far as music,
movies, art.
She gets me.
Like, she's funny.
Even when I don't want to smile,
she makes me.
She's my best friend.
>> Are you talking to Bre
on the phone?
>> Yes.
>> You've heard her voice.
>> Yes, we talk and text.
>> How has this girl evaded you?
>> One, she lives in California,
and the distance,
it's the big factor.
I'm, like, the sole breadwinner
in my house right now.
>> For your mom and your
brothers?
>> Yes, I'm the oldest.
And I do, like, six days a week,
overtime if I have to.
>> So you guys are on a pretty
tight budget.
>> Pretty much, yeah.
>> Why can't she come visit you?
>> Money is the whole issue
with her also.
>> Have you tried to video chat
with her?
>> I've downloaded ooVoo,
Skype, Tango, but nothing has
been successful.
There's either been a problem
with, like, Wi-Fi connections
or phones being broken.
>> Maybe four years ago,
those excuses worked better.
>> Four years is way too much
time, but, you know...
It's either now or never.
I want to know if our love is
true love, or is it just really,
you know, four years on
a phone conversation.
>> All right, so, look,
here's what's up.
I think we're gonna have to come
to Brooklyn...
>> Okay.
>> See if we can figure out
how to track down Bre.
>> If she's in California,
we'll take you to meet her.
>> That would be great.
At this moment, I think I'm
ready for anything right now.
>> All right, cool.
>> Bye, Whitney.
She's sweet.
>> Working hard, taking care
of her family.
>> She's, like, a good role
model.
>> Yeah.
>> Let's go.
New York.
First episode in New York.
>> Yeah.
>> Ever.
[dance music playing]
*
>> * Day one
* Told you I had a past
* You fell in love
* You fell in love
* Baby, didn't I tell you so? *
>> Made it.
*
>> * Don't dance *
* With the devil
>> Well, I can't believe we're
in New York.
Whitney doesn't have it easy,
but she's not throwing herself
a pity party.
She's tough.
Maybe she's tough because she's
got this beautiful fantasy
she can escape to.
>> Yeah.
>> Don't slip on the ice.
[line trilling]
>> Hello, it's Nev and Max.
This is what I love about
New York, is, you got to find
a place for things,
wherever they can fit.
Fire escape shoe holder.
Hi.
>> How are you?
>> Hi.
>> This is nice.
>> This is so surreal.
I feel like I'm watching TV
with you, and I'm watching
you guys.
>> I feel like I'm stuck
in a TV.
[laughter]
>> All right, so, of all the
people you could go out with
in New York City, why are you
in love with someone
in California?
>> I got to know her, like,
mentally, emotionally.
I became her friend before
we moved to the love stage.
We're falling asleep on the
phone with each other,
and things like that.
It's like, "I'm really,
really liking you."
I love her.
I've had my heart broken
more than once, and I still
believe in love.
>> A girl after your own
heart, Nev.
>> Have you guys talked about
trying to be together somehow?
>> Yeah, either I move out there
or she comes out here.
>> You would move to
California?
>> I wouldn't want to just jump
and move.
I would rather, like,
visit first.
>> Does she talk about her work
or what she does?
>> Yeah, she talks about--
>> Or her family, or?
>> She's not working right now.
>> What did she do
when she is working?
>> She was an exotic dancer.
>> She was what?
>> She was an exotic dancer.
>> She was what?
>> She was a stripper!
>> Yeah.
[laughter]
Why isn't she dancing anymore?
>> She stopped because she wants
to go back to school.
>> Why don't you show us?
>> The two pictures that I have
of her are--this is one.
>> Oh, okay, here we go.
Very pretty.
>> Hello, Bre.
>> Oh, wow.
So you saw those pictures,
and you thought...
>> Like, oh, she's pretty.
>> Oh.
>> Yeah.
>> And that's all you've seen
of her in the last four years?
>> Yeah.
>> It's odd that someone who is
an exhibitionist by profession,
that you only have two pictures.
Don't you think there's
something a little off?
>> It is a little odd
and a little off.
>> You ever feel like she's
not telling you something?
>> I want to say yes, but then
it's like no, because I don't
like being lied to.
I don't ask for nothing else.
Just don't lie to me.
I hope that I'm getting
what I give.
Because I'm being genuine with
you, I expect for you to be
genuine with me 100%.
So hopefully that's the case
that's going on.
If not...
four years of trust
and not getting it back,
that would be really hurtful
to me, because I don't trust
too many people.
>> Even though you met on
an internet dating site,
Bre seems to not have any
profile on any other website.
>> Yeah.
I've asked her, like,
"Request me on Facebook."
She was like, "Okay, no
problem."
In that same time, I've had
a death in my family
that happened, and I just, like,
basically disconnected myself
from the world.
She was like, "Okay, I sent you
a request," so I'm like, "Okay,
whenever I get back online,
I'll look at it."
So when I finally did get back
online, I had, like, 30 or 40
friend requests.
I just accepted them all,
because I didn't know which one
was her.
Like, a lot of people didn't
have their names there.
>> You could be friends with her
and not know it.
>> Yeah.
>> I want to go through
your friends on Facebook.
>> Okay.
>> So write down your
login info.
What you've got is her
current phone number.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> You know her name,
or what you think is her name.
>> I know she has a tattoo
on her leg that says,
"Luscious."
>> It says, "Luscious"?
>> Yeah.
>> So that's not a ton of info,
but it's something
to get started.
I want to help you
go on this trip.
I think you deserve the
experience, no matter
what happens.
>> Okay.
>> I am--fingers crossed--
hoping this works out.
>> All right, let's go make sure
that she is who she says she is.
>> Nice meeting you.
>> Nice to meet you too.
>> What's the deal?
>> She's gonna fall hard if Bre
is not being 100%.
>> It sounds like these two
people really could love
each other.
>> Yeah, it sounds like they
have a true connection.
>> Right, and yet, there is this
very likely element that Bre is
not the girl in those two
pictures that Whitney saw,
and the whole relationship could
come crumbling apart.
>> It could.
>> Come into my suite.
>> Is this what happens when
you're the star of the show?
'Cause I didn't get
a room like this.
>> Didn't get this room, Max?
>> No, whoa.
>> Look at this view.
>> Look at that.
Wow.
I'm taking off my jacket.
Nev, sit your ass down.
>> All right, here we go.
>> Let's get this investigation
under way.
>> All right, so 4 1/2 years
ago, Whitney is looking for
love.
She goes on an LGBT dating
website.
She finds herself talking
to Brenell, AKA Bre.
They exchange phone numbers.
>> They're soul mates.
>> But we've got two people who
are separated by 3,000 miles,
which makes meeting up hard,
not to mention that they both
have difficult financial
situations.
More than that, Bre is tough
to pin down.
She doesn't have any social
media pages.
>> She won't video chat.
They talk, though, so it's
a woman's voice she's hearing.
It's something.
>> Let's start things off
with a phone search.
Here we go.
Searching.
What do we got?
Ah, we got an L.A. phone number,
which is a good start.
>> That's promising.
Oh, it's a VoIP.
>> Like a Google Voice number.
>> Yeah.
>> Bre's always saying that she
doesn't have Wi-Fi or that she's
having problems with her Wi-Fi,
and that's why she can't
go online, and yet, when she's
saying that, she's using Wi-Fi,
because the number she's
currently--
>> Only works on the Wi-Fi.
>> Right.
>> So she's been lying about
not having Wi-Fi.
She's finding excuses not
to video chat, which means she's
not the person in the pictures.
>> It's a possibility.
>> What if you look up
the email?
Brenell [bleep].
>> Okay, so here's
a Brenell Twitter.
Los Angeles.
That's great.
>> She lives where she
says she lives.
This could be her.
>> She's cute.
>> I think Whitney
would still go for her.
>> Here's a YouTube page,
a clip of what looks like her
twerking.
>> She knows how to clap
them thighs.
She said that Bre was
an exotic dancer.
>> She goes by her name.
She lives in California.
She's just not the girl in
the two pictures that she sent.
>> No.
>> What else do we have?
>> Why don't you Google Image
search those pictures
that Whitney gave us.
>> Searching a picture.
No, no hits on that.
All right, here's the other one.
Searching.
>> Oh, we got one.
We got a match.
>> Instagram account.
Kash [bleep].
This is the girl from the
pictures.
>> There's a Facebook account.
>> Whoa.
>> The first thing we see are
the two pictures that have been
sent to Whitney.
>> She seems to be in L.A.
We have two girls that we've
found, one named Brenell
[bleep], who doesn't look like
the girl in the pictures
but lives in L.A.
Then we found the girl in the
pictures...
>> Right.
>> That Whitney gave us.
>> Kash [bleep] seems pretty
legit, because not only does she
have an Instagram, but...
>> There's a Facebook account.
>> There's a Facebook.
>> I'm curious if they know
each other.
>> Why do you think that?
>> Because they live in the
exact same part of California.
>> And so they know each other?
>> If one is using pictures
of the other, then I would
suspect that, like--
It's a big coincidence.
>> True, I guess that's
possible, right.
Maybe they're friends
on Facebook.
>> And she thinks that this girl
is maybe pretty,
or prettier than her.
>> She might even have
a crush on her.
>> Or maybe they're doing this
as a prank?
>> Who knows, right?
>> Who knows?
>> Kash is somehow linked
to all this, because her
pictures are being sent
to Whitney.
So I think we should reach out
to Kash, ask her what she knows
about Brenell, see what we
can find out.
"Hey, Kash, this is Nev
from the MTV show Catfish.
It appears someone might be
using your photos.
We would love to speak with you
to clear this up, thanks."
>> Send it.
>> Sent.
We don't have all the
answers yet.
I think Whitney's gonna be upset
when she finds out that the girl
in the pictures is not the girl
she's talking to.
>> We don't know why she's
lying, and that's the one thing
Whitney said: "My only big
deal-breaker is being lied to."
She did say that.
>> Everyone says that.
Let's wait to hear back
from Kash and go from there.
That was good work, dude.
[knock at door]
>> [laughs]
>> Ahh!
>> Aah!
>> [laughs]
Wow, I can't believe that
worked.
That's what this is for.
This is the scare hole.
>> Did you get an email?
Here we go.
>> Oh, Kash [bleep].
>> She wrote back, "Hi, Nev,
I got your message.
Call me when you can."
>> So what are we're gonna
ask her?
>> First of all, we need to ask
her if she's in a relationship
with a girl named Whitney.
>> And if she's not talking
to Whitney, does she know
Brenell?
>> All right, here we go.
>> Hey, good morning,
it's Nev and Max from Catfish.
>> Hey, how's it going?
>> Do you know a girl
named Whitney?
>> The next question we had
for you was, do you know
a young lady named Brenell?
She goes by Bre, but Brenell--
>> Oh, okay.
>> Has anyone online ever been
using your profile picture?
>> What was her explanation?
>> Did Bre ever tell you if she
met anyone using your photos?
>> We were trying to find some,
like, social media pages
for Bre.
>> Lucious B [bleep].
All right, well, look, it was
really nice to meet you.
Thank you for your help.
>> Let's look up her
Facebook page.
Oh, here she is.
Oh, boy.
Here's that picture that we saw.
Ready, remember?
Whoa.
>> Whoa.
>> She was a stripper.
>> There's the "lucious" tattoo.
>> Yeah, this is the girl.
Now we know Brenell's
real Facebook page.
I'm willing to bet...
>> That she's already friends
with Whitney.
>> Let's go to her friends.
Let's just look at her friends.
>> Brenell's friends?
>> Yeah.
>> All right, let's see
who she's following.
>> Oh, oh.
>> Not friends there.
>> They may not be friends
right now, but it's possible
that at one point they may have
sent messages.
Let's log in to Whitney's
Facebook page.
>> So now we're gonna creep
through her messages.
>> Well, we're not gonna creep.
We're just gonna look.
We can search Whitney's
messages, look.
>> We can?
>> Yeah.
Wait a second.
Here's a message between Whitney
and Lucious B [bleep].
>> They've talked.
>> So Lucious said, "Hey, boo,
how is everything going?
Where are you now?"
>> What year is this from?
>> This is 2011.
>> How far does it go?
>> It goes--whoa.
Oh, my god, wow, they talked
a lot.
>> Wait, this is a full
relationship.
Do they know each other?
Look, 2014.
>> Oh, my god.
>> They were talking
in December.
January 19th.
That was a week ago.
Do you think Whitney
is messing with us?
Is that what's happening
right now?
>> "Hey, luv, get on ooVoo?"
Luv?
>> Wait, get on ooVoo?
I thought she couldn't
get on ooVoo.
>> That doesn't make any sense.
>> It looks like they've been
video chatting since 2011.
>> Do you think Whitney just--
Whitney and Brenell
talk extensively.
They're having an almost daily
exchange for the past
four years.
>> I'm so confused.
Or I'm not.
>> She's lying to us.
She's got to be lying to us.
She's got to know that Lucious
is Brenell [bleep].
They're very good friends.
>> So Whitney is screwing
with us.
She's--she played us.
>> We figured it out.
>> But we're here.
We got catfished.
Whitney--is that even
her real name?
>> We don't even know if
anything she's told us is real.
>> I mean, we don't even know
if they're in love.
>> Did they want to be on TV?
>> Yeah, Lucious...
>> She's got a career maybe
she's trying to pursue.
>> Lucious is no stranger
to the camera.
There have to be easier ways
to meet than to write into
a television show.
They're using us for a plane
ticket.
>> Did she really think we
wouldn't figure it out?
I just can't believe this.
So what do we do?
>> What do you guys think
we should do?
>> And then the episode
just ends?
>> Yeah, let's, like, watch her
squirm a little bit.
If she cops to it and it's
a love story and she just
desperately wants to meet this
person and the show is her only
way to do it, we've got to
double--triple-check that.
>> Let's call Whitney, and let's
just sort of take it one step
at a time.
[line trilling]
>> Hello, Whitney.
>> Good morning.
>> How you feeling?
Are you nervous?
>> What are you nervous about?
>> All right, well, we've been
working last night and
a little bit today.
We got some interesting topics
and things to discuss.
So we were hoping we could come
meet up with you and talk.
>> We'll see you in a bit.
>> Okay.
They did a good job getting us
here, but they didn't do
such a good job--
>> They didn't cover their
tracks.
>> This is definitely
a Catfish first.
>> * Walking down
* The hall again
>> What is she gonna say?
What is her excuse gonna be?
>> I'm mostly just torn up
because I liked Whitney so much
when we hung out with her
yesterday, and now it's, like,
actually two people who are just
using us to get something
that they want.
>> We've got an
interrogation on our hands.
>> So...
We are being played by Whitney.
>> We've already established
that Whitney is capable
of great deceit.
So we have to really question
everything she says.
>> So how are we gonna
play this?
>> I think we're gonna show
Whitney a couple of the things
that we found, and as we're
doing it, see if she has
an answer for it.
>> You ready to do this?
Ready to bust a catfish?
>> I mean, I don't think
we have a choice.
[line trilling]
>> Hello, hey, it's us.
[door buzzes]
>> Hey.
>> How you doing?
>> I'm good.
I was, like, really,
really nervous.
You guys are like CSI.
I was like, "What did they
find out?
What happened?"
>> Well, what were your
big concerns?
>> Her being who she says
she is, because I expect--
like, I give the truth,
so I expect the truth back.
If you're gonna lie to me,
it's like, "Why?
What's the purpose of you
lying?"
>> Sometimes you lie to put
yourself in a position
to get what you want.
>> You lie about something,
you're gonna have to keep
telling another lie on top of
that one, on top of that one.
It makes no sense, because
at the end of the day,
you're gonna probably even
forget the first lie you told
or forget the last lie
you told, and eventually the
truth is gonna come out anyway.
So why not just save all the
headache and just get it
over with?
>> Well, we did some
investigating, and...
>> I think we probably have more
questions...
>> Yeah.
>> Than anything at this point.
>> Okay.
>> So why don't we go through
what we found?
You can tell us what makes sense
to you and help explain things.
>> Okay.
>> We ran this image.
The most promising lead that it
gave us was for an Instagram
for someone who goes by the name
Kash [bleep].
We found a Facebook page
for Kash.
And lo and behold, the two
pictures that you can see...
>> Are the ones that I have.
>> Are the ones that you have.
>> [sighs]
Um...I would have thought,
personally, like, of all the
people, Brenell would at least
tell me the truth about
everything.
>> We spoke to Kash.
She does know Bre, and she did
know that Bre has a Facebook
account, and she told us the
name of that, and she said,
it's Lucious B [bleep].
This is Bre.
Have you ever seen this
person before?
>> No.
>> And you'd remember a name
like Lucious B, right?
>> Yeah, yeah, like, I remember
the tattoo.
So that is something that
I would remember.
>> If we scroll through
pictures, boom, "lucious."
>> Wow.
>> So then we thought, could it
be that you're actually
friends with Lucious?
>> I don't know this page.
>> You sure?
>> I have, like, over 1,000
friends on my page.
>> We searched Brenell's
friends, and we didn't see
anything, but then we went into
your messages.
If you had messaged with her
at one point, like, maybe she
just said, "Hi," or, "Hey,
what's up," might still be
buried.
>> Right, messages remain,
even if your friend
de-friends you.
>> Anyway, so we were looking
through your messages,
and basically we found these.
A little over four years of
conversation.
>> 55 pages...
between you and Lucious B
[bleep], going all the way up
to a week ago.
There are times where you ask
to go on ooVoo or Skype.
>> Right.
>> And it looks like you guys
got on with each other.
>> Right.
>> No, I haven't been on
with her.
>> Come on.
>> Yeah--well, this person,
her name is, um...
[clicking tongue]
>> Come on.
>> I didn't hit you up
to do this.
That's what's going on.
>> All right, you want to tell
us what that means?
>> Yes.
She basically hit the show up
to basically try to see me.
>> Okay.
>> And I was like, "Why you
do that?
I want to see you too, but,
like, this is crazy."
Everything just went haywire
from there, and now we're here.
>> You lied to the show so that
you could come on and then
meet each other in person.
>> Yeah.
>> Here's the dilemma.
We've now sat with you for
probably a total of five hours
and listened to 100% lies,
you looking us dead in the eye
and lying to us.
We're in this position that you
so well articulated, that you
don't like being lied to,
because when someone lies to
you, you don't know what's
true and what's not.
And we don't exactly want to air
a show where we get tricked
by two people who may just want
their 15 minutes of fame.
So this is your final shot
to tell us the truth.
>> All right.
>> What's the nature of your
relationship with Bre?
>> We've been talking on and off
for about four years.
>> Are you in love with her?
>> I am in love with her.
She's there, I'm here.
I'm trying to figure out even if
I want to stay in New York
or not.
I want to see her to make sure
that if I do decide to move
to California, that I'm gonna be
with her and everything is what
she says it is and what we
want it to be.
>> There have to be easier ways
to arrange to see one another.
>> I know I won't be able to
afford a ticket to go to
California.
Like, I know that.
I'm, like, the sole breadwinner
in my household right now.
>> We've never been in this
position.
The authenticity of our show has
really been, you know, sort of
compromised.
We need some time to figure out
how we feel.
I think you need some time to
figure out how you feel,
considering this all just
came to light.
We're gonna talk to Bre.
We're gonna hear what she has
to say about this.
We'll check back in with you,
maybe tonight, maybe tomorrow.
>> All right.
>> Okay.
See you later.
>> Bye.
>> Bye.
>> I just always get so freaked
out when people just can sit
across from you and lie
like that.
>> * I have left my only son
* And he is so all alone
>> I don't know now how to
evaluate the situation.
Could it be a love story or
just 15 minutes of fame?
>> Well, I think it's gonna be
really interesting to see what
Bre has to say about all this.
We got to make sure
the stories match up.
>> Here we are in Brooklyn.
The question is, are we going to
take Whitney to L.A.?
>> Frankly, we don't know if we
have an episode here.
>> Right, but let's give them
a ring.
[line trilling]
>> Hey, Marshall, how you doing?
>> Good.
>> As you know, we're shooting
an episode right now in
Brooklyn.
We had a bit of a curveball.
We discovered that Bre and
Whitney are actually friends.
They've sent each other hundreds
and hundreds of messages over
the past four years.
>> And they've been Skyping,
and they conspired to get
on the show.
>> Yes, so now we're in
a position where we need to
decide what to do, because we're
making this show about these
people who don't necessarily
need our help.
But there's still a chance that
these two women could really
be in love with each other.
We're a little uncertain about
what the next move should be.
>> When we first met her,
we thought her story was
really sincere, and...
>> She--
>> She really won us over.
>> She's hard-working,
single-handedly supports her
four brothers and her mom.
She's, like, the underdog hero
that everyone wants to root for.
We don't really know now how we
feel about her, because I'm not
even sure what to believe about
anything she's told us.
>> Yeah, we've all been
catfished.
>> Right.
>> All right, speak soon.
Bye-bye.
>> It's up to us.
>> I think the thing that I've
been waiting and most anxious
about is speaking to Bre.
All right, let's call her.
[line trilling]
>> Hello, is this Brenell?
>> Hi, this is Nev and Max
from the show Catfish.
I'm not sure if you spoke to
Whitney last night.
Okay, so you basically know,
then, that we discovered that
you guys actually do know each
other and that this was a lie
that you guys put together,
and so we were just curious
to get your side of the story.
>> You have ooVoo'd or
video chatted, right?
>> We're in an interesting
situation now, because we're
a little upset that you guys
sort of tried to pull one over
on us, and kind of did.
Even though sections of your
story are obviously true,
we're starting to feel like
maybe you guys were just
interested in being
on a TV show.
>> It's such a crazy idea to me.
The way you guys were gonna meet
was that you were gonna get
yourselves on to this
reality show.
>> Here, this is Max.
I'm all for bringing you guys
together, but we want to know
now that you're serious.
>> You know, this is all kind of
happening fast for us,
trying to figure out what to do
on our side of things.
But we're gonna go talk to
Whitney again today and make
a decision based on that.
>> She said all the right
things.
That's what we wanted
from Whitney yesterday.
>> Right, I just want to know
if this could really be
a true love story.
>> I am gonna hold out
until we talk to Whitney.
>> Let's head over to Whitney's
and see what she has to say.
>> What she's got to say.
>> * Empty my mind
* Just to see what's left *
>> Well, it'll be interesting to
see if Whitney's got
a different story to tell today.
>> Well, she's had all night to
kind of process what happened
and talk to Bre.
>> * Get a fever in your soul
* Walk the night alone
>> All right, let's see
what she's got to say.
She better make it good.
>> * Got a fever in my soul
* Walk the night alone
>> How you doing?
>> Good day.
>> Hey.
>> What's going on?
>> I had some time to think
about it, and...
Well, I felt really, really bad,
like, lying to you guys.
It felt horrible.
So I want to apologize
to you guys again.
It felt like maybe this is,
like, the only time that I'll
probably be able to get this
chance to even see you.
So I went along with it.
I love her.
She's been there with me
every step of the way.
When I was having problems with,
like, my family, the one person
I could talk to was her.
The whole thing on my mind was,
like, "Yo, I'm really gonna
see her, like, I'm really
gonna see her," and, like,
it just came from a lie, though,
instead of the truth.
>> We spoke to her this morning.
She seemed really sweet.
She was also very apologetic
and painted a very beautiful
picture of your relationship
together, how much meeting you
is really what she wants
and how she really cares
about you.
So I think, for me, we're here,
we're in this situation.
This is not the kind of thing
that happens a lot.
I mean, everything about this
is sort of backwards.
But I believe that, at the core,
two young people who really
care about each other.
>> Yeah.
>> If you guys came this far
because you wanted to meet
each other, and got to
the second day of the show
without anyone realizing
what you were doing, then that
definitely shows a lot of
motivation and initiative
to--to meet each other.
Like, clearly there's a passion
there.
>> I think we believe that
you're sorry.
I know that I, for one,
forgive you.
We're in a position to bring
you guys together.
I'm ready to do that,
if you guys are.
>> I'm ready for it.
>> That's the first time
I've seen you smile.
>> Now you can, like, be hon--
like, be open about it, yeah.
>> This is awesome.
>> It really is.
You ever been so happy,
like, your ribs hurt?
[laughs]
I want to see Bre.
[laughs]
Thank you.
>> Ah.
>> You too, Max.
>> Get over here.
This is gonna be really fun.
We'll take you to
the west coast.
>> Okay.
>> The best coast.
[laughter]
[atmospheric pop music]
*
>> * Compass points you home
* Calling out from the east
>> Oh, I'm so excited.
Like, I feel butterflies and,
like, my heart is, like,
pounding.
>> * Where you are, I will be
* Anywhere, in-between
>> [sighs]
>> * Taking all the badges
* Build ourselves a mansion
* Love you in the way
* That you needed love
* Where you are, I will be
* Compass points you anywhere
* Closer to me
* Where you are, I will be
>> This episode of Catfish:
The TV Show continues now.
>> * The green mermaid
* And the wavy mane
>> Saddle up.
>> Okay, thank you.
>> * Riding a unicorn
* Through your Dali
* The free fantasy
>> Are you excited?
4 1/2 years now almost, right?
>> I'm over-excited.
Like, my cheeks hurt, like...
Oh, wow.
My heart is, like, pounding
uncontrollably.
>> She is here somewhere.
Whenever you're ready,
we should just--
>> I'm ready.
I'm as ready as I'll ever be,
so I'm ready.
Wow.
>> All right?
>> Yeah.
>> Want to take off your
seatbelt?
>> Oh, yeah.
I can't--
>> She's just strapping in.
>> All right, so let's do it.
I think that's her.
>> I think that's her,
sitting there.
>> Looking very glamorous.
>> Yeah, that is her.
>> Oh, my goodness.
She's looking fine, huh?
[laughter]
Here she comes.
>> Hey.
>> Take it away.
It's all you.
Wow.
>> Come here.
Hey.
[laughter]
>> Oh, my god.
Oh, my god.
Oh, my god.
>> Oh, my god, my glasses.
Hold on, come here.
[laughter]
>> Oh, my god!
Ah!
I can't believe it.
Oh, I'm shaking.
>> We didn't do--
>> Well, we got her here.
>> Oh, my god.
Oh, my god.
I got lipstick all on your
shirt.
Oh, my god, I got lipstick
everywhere.
>> It's all right.
>> Hi.
>> Hi.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> I'm, like, shaking right now.
>> Take a little tissue here.
[laughter]
Yeah, clean her up, will you?
>> This is cute.
>> You know, normally in these
situations, we're asking
questions because we don't know
what's true and false,
but I think--it sounds like
everything we know about you--
>> It's true.
Just the lie that, you know,
that I told to be here.
>> You guys did a pretty
good job.
You pulled one over on us,
for the most part.
>> I'm sorry.
>> I know.
>> But you didn't tell her to
delete your conversation
on Facebook.
>> No, I didn't delete
mine either.
Those conversations is--
I can never delete, like--
That's part of my life.
I tell this woman everything.
>> I mean, can you believe that
it worked out?
Did you really think it was
actually gonna happen?
>> No, but I'm glad it did.
I really want to thank you guys
and say sorry at the same time.
Like--ah!
>> So you two take some time,
enjoy the day.
We'll see you later.
Snack, whatever, do your thing.
>> I can't believe it.
My Teddy.
>> Yes.
>> Oh, my gosh.
Was it really worth the wait?
>> Yes, yes.
Ye-heh-es.
>> [laughs]
I'm excited.
>> Aw.
>> What?
>> I really love you.
Like, I love the [bleep]
out of you, for real.
I promise.
This is, like, the start
of everything right now.
>> Mm-hmm.
So come, go take a walk.
>> All right.
>> * I want to be a shadow
>> Even though we got catfished,
I think it was a catfish
for good and it was worth it.
>> It was a catfish for good.
>> 'Cause look how--these ladies
are really in love.
I'm just happy that two people
met each other, and even though
we got sort of roped into it,
love finds a way.
>> * I want to be a shadow
>> This is amazing.
It's, like, the best day
of my life.
>> Hey-o!
>> Hey!
>> Hey, what's going on?
>> How's it going?
You're still in Brooklyn.
>> Yeah.
>> How are things with you and
work and your family?
>> Work is actually great.
Like, my family, I talk to them
more about Bre.
I can't wait for her to meet
them.
She's actually planning on
coming out here soon,
and then the month after she
comes out here, I'm gonna
be out there.
>> And the relationship is...
>> It's good?
>> Yeah, it's great, actually.
>> What did we miss?
>> Yeah, did you guys get it on,
or what?
>> [laughs]
>> That's private.
>> No, it's not private,
not when--she owes us.
>> Did you see who came
down that hill?
Like, yeah.
>> Why don't we add Bre
to the call?
Add people.
>> Hey!
Whoa!
>> How is everything, Bre?
>> I'm great, never been better.
>> Looks like, and it sounds
like you guys are a couple.
>> You might as well say it,
but we don't put a title on it.
It just is what it is.
>> Are you guys in love?
>> Of course I love her, yeah.
>> So then there you go.
What lesson did we learn?
>> Just keep it honest, so true.
>> You guys had a beautiful,
pure intention, and you did
a little bit of, you know,
finagling to get what you
needed, but in the end, I think
it was worth it for all of us.
We're really happy for you guys.
Nice to see you both.
Good luck with everything.
>> Later, guys.
>> Bye.
>> It's a little unusual.
Two people are talking online,
and one of them says, "Hey,
let's meet on Catfish."
"I think it's the only way I
will find out what she isn't
telling me and if we can take it
to the next level."
>> But you trust her?
>> I do, I trust her.
>> The harder it is to find
that secret, the more sinister
that secret seems.
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