Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 4, Episode 18 - Hundra & Emily - full transcript
Hundra never planned on falling in love with a girl and now she is risking coming out on national TV to learn if her love with Emily is for real. Special guest Machine Gun Kelly teams with Nev to reveal a shocking Catfish.
>> Is this them pulling up?
We get out?
>> Yeah.
>> Sucker.
You are a sucker.
>> Kelly, don't go over there.
>> Hell, no.
I'm telling her, man.
[bleep] that.
>> So why are you smiling?
What's funny?
>> You're not a hero.
You are a shameful citizen.
And she runs away from her
problems.
Like, what a coward, dude.
You're a coward, man.
Are you kidding me?
You know what the [bleep]
I had to do to get here?
>> Thank you.
>> You guys don't know it yet,
but there are very
special guests on this episode.
You're gonna like 'em.
He's a busy man.
He was just doing a performance
or something, so we had to meet
here in Philly.
>> Hey.
>> Super excited to have
Machine Gun Kelly.
>> * My city, my city
>> He's a bad-boy rapper.
He's an actor.
MGK.
>> * Till I die
* Till I die
>> Been hearing about you.
You've been starring
in all my brother's movies.
>> Got to meet
the kid brother, man.
Nice.
>> Welcome to the show.
>> Thank you.
>> Have you seen the show?
>> Of course.
I'm rooting for love.
>> Wow. Already.
>> Already.
>> Rooting for love.
Okay, good.
I don't even know the story.
All I know is that it's
somewhere
in the Philadelphia area,
which is why we met here.
Have a seat.
>> Okay.
>> So you've been
in my brother's last two movies
that haven't come out yet--
"Viral" and "Nerve"...
>> Yeah.
>> Which is how we kind
of know each other.
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> So have you met Max?
>> I haven't met Max.
>> Maybe you'll be
in his next movie?
Who knows?
Yeah, just eye--
just give him the eye.
[laughter]
Let's find out
what the story is.
>> Oh, dude, this is sick.
>> We got one.
The subject is--
>> "This is so much more than
just finding out the truth."
>> "Dear Nev, my name is Hundra.
I am a 21-year-old girl
from Philadelphia.
Please could you help me?
I met an amazing girl
named Emily from New York City
on Facebook nine months ago.
>> * I had a feeling you broke
* And the smoke filled you up
>> "We started out as friends,
but our relationship
grew into so much more."
>> * Again, again, again
* I wasn't thinking 'bout you *
* I wasn't thinking 'bout you *
>> "Emily is my first girlfriend
and the first girl
I ever felt this way for.
She made me feel like it's okay
to be myself and love
who I choose."
>> * But in a week
* Might our weakness elude
>> "I still love her, but I feel
like she's playing a game.
Even though we both live close,
when I try to meet her,
it always falls apart.
I even drove to her place
one day,
and at the last minute,
she told me she had left town."
>> Oh, no.
>> "I know you guys
hear a lot of stories.
However, my situation
is different.
Me asking you for help is risky.
I may lose a lot doing this.
I say this because my family
is from Haiti."
>> Oh.
"And we come from a very strict
way of life."
>> "Homosexuality is not
tolerated."
>> Crazy.
>> "I have not told my family
that I am dating women and run
the risk of them disowning me."
Jeez.
"I really care for this girl,
and I'm willing to show
the world who I am
to get the answers I need.
Can you guys help?"
>> Yes.
For sure, 'cause
this Emily girl is getting
on my nerves right now.
>> I mean,
that's a really big deal,
especially in her case, where,
you know, her family
is against homosexuality.
>> They're probably, like,
super strict.
Should we call her?
>> I think we should.
[line trilling]
>> Hey.
>> Hi.
>> How you doing?
>> I'm doing fine.
>> So Max couldn't be
on this episode.
He's editing his film,
but we got a guy.
I think you're gonna really like
him.
His professional name
is Machine Gun Kelly,
but you can call him Kells.
>> Okay.
I think I'm gonna
call him Kells.
>> So we read your email.
I have to say it's very brave
of you to let us help you,
because this is your coming out.
>> Yeah.
>> How are you feeling
about that right now?
>> Honestly,
I'm a little nervous.
She's the only girl
I've felt that way about.
I still want to do it for myself
and other Haitian kids around,
because I know, like,
being gay is not something that
we're supposed to think about.
>> Have you had relationships
in the past?
>> Yeah. I've had a lot
of relationships with boys.
I just got my heart
broken not too long ago.
>> Is Emily the only woman
you can see yourself with?
>> Yeah, she is,
because that's the only female
that I've been "conversating"
with on that type of level.
>> How did you and Emily meet?
>> I contacted her when I had
gotten my heart broken by my ex.
I was feeling gay for a day,
so I'm like, "Hey,
let me just be gay for a day
and see what happens."
I was just
going through Facebook
looking at girls' pictures.
I came across her picture.
I'm like, "Oh, snap.
This girl's really cute.
Let me just hit her up
and see what happens,
and we hit off
right then and there.
And then she gave me her number.
She opened up
to me about her personal
situations with her family.
How hard it was
for her to come out.
She made me understand
it's okay to be gay.
I really do love her,
and she's pretty.
>> So that's part
of the package to you,
like, she has to be
who she looks like?
>> I would hope so.
>> And you said you guys
have tried to meet up before?
>> Yeah. I actually tried
to drive to her.
She made it seem
like she was still home,
everything like that.
So, when I drove there, it
was supposed to be a surprise.
Then when I got there, I was
like, "Hey, I'm in New York.
Where are you at?"
She was just like, "Oh,
I'm gone on family vacation."
And then on a couple occasions,
she said that something
was wrong with her car.
I was nice enough to even
send her money
to try to get her car
on the road.
>> Oh, no.
So why do you keep texting her
if you know that she's giving
you, like, the spin-around?
>> 'Cause I want to see her.
Like, I just feel like it's
really meant for me to meet her,
because she's made
me understand I don't have
to be scared because my parents
are gonna disown me,
but I'm just starting
to get frustrated.
I feel like I'm wasting my time.
>> I mean, your whole identity
is sort of wrapped up
in this girl who may or may not
be who she says she is,
and you need to figure this out.
So we want to help.
>> I would gladly appreciate
that.
>> If you're close by,
we can just head over there,
and we can talk
a lot more about this.
And look, if nothing else,
this is just an important moment
in your life.
Thanks for sharing with us.
I mean, that's a big deal.
>> You're welcome.
>> All right, Hundra.
Hang tight.
We will see you really soon.
>> Okay.
Thank you, guys.
>> All right.
>> both: Bye.
>> Wow.
>> I think that she's gay,
but not comfortable saying it.
I think that's why she'll keep,
like, making little excuses,
like, "I'm gay for a day."
>> It's pretty interesting.
>> It's like we're all,
like, strapped up for the ride
that we don't know
where it's going.
>> I'm excited
to meet this girl.
>> Yeah, let's do it.
>> Just a quick drive
over to Hundra.
*
>> I feel like Hundra
was so straight
to the point with everything.
>> I don't think she's the kind
of person that's gonna
have a hard time
expressing how she feels.
>> That's what
I'm talking about.
>> * Try to tell the truth
* Always
>> So this is the neighborhood.
>> Oh, it's definitely the hood
right here.
>> I don't know. Is it?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> It's not so bad around here.
>> No, it's the hood.
No, I know the hood
when I see the hood.
That's one thing I'm good for.
>> Let's do this.
Hey.
>> Hi.
>> You're tall.
>> I know, right?
Big man.
>> Yeah.
>> All right, you're cute.
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And definitely stunning
in person.
>> Thank you.
>> All right, cool.
Well, let's sit down
and chat for a minute.
>> Okay.
>> So how are you feeling?
>> I'm a little nervous.
I'm about to get
on national television
and express my feeling
towards a girl.
I'm a Haitian, and to my
culture, they look at it as you
disrespecting your family.
>> Have you ever said anything
to her, like, "Hey,
if you're not being straight
with me,
like, please tell me what's up?"
>> I said it to her
not too long ago.
I was like, "Look, I'm really
thinking about doing something
that could affect my whole life
when it comes down to you,
so please tell me
what it really is."
She was just basically like,
"Oh, babe,
I would never do that to you."
>> But there's some pretty
big sort of red flags.
The first one is sending money.
>> I sent it to her
through Western Union.
She sent me a Brooklyn address,
and then when she sent me
the address she sent me a name,
but it wasn't Emily.
She said it was her cousin.
>> Did you get a confirmation
that she picked up the money?
>> I don't think
I have any of that.
>> Wow.
>> And then over the course of
the nine months, she's text me
from five different numbers.
>> Wow.
>> Five?
>> Her most recent number
is this number.
As you can see,
it's a 267 number.
>> Is that an area code
for here?
>> Yeah.
>> Which is weird, right?
>> Right.
'Cause you're in New York.
A New York area code
is 917, 347--
>> 646.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, I'm so curious.
What photos do you have?
How many pictures
has she sent you?
>> Three.
>> Wait.
The whole time you guys have
been talking, she's only
text-messaged you three
pictures?
>> Mm-hmm.
>> I don't like that.
>> I seen a couple more from
her Facebook page,
but she deactivated her Facebook
page.
>> Wow.
>> Do you have the pictures?
'Cause me and Nev
haven't seen the pictures.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Let's see.
Oh, she's got some tats.
>> Yeah.
>> both: Okay.
>> Really cute.
>> Yes.
>> We weren't sure
if she was gonna be,
like, a Victoria's Secret model
or something.
>> No, she's regular cute.
>> It's so interesting,
'cause you seem extremely smart,
but for some reason,
like, Emily has this,
like, spot in your life that,
like, all of those things go--
like, wisp away.
>> Yeah.
>> You don't seem like the kind
of person who puts up
with people's bull[bleep].
>> No. That's
why I'm getting irked,
but I still want to know
who I've been talking to,
because that person
has made it easier
for me to find a side of myself
that I never wanted to share
with nobody else.
I'm putting so much on the line
to show to somebody that I've
been talking to for so long
that I really do love you,
'cause if I didn't, obviously,
I wouldn't be putting myself
through all this.
>> All right,
so give us the night
to kind of do some research.
Tomorrow we'll check back
in with you, let we know
what you find out.
>> The Emily mystery begins.
>> Yeah. All right. Well,
let's get out of here, then.
>> Thank you, guys.
>> All right,
we'll see you later.
>> Bye.
>> Whew. What a story.
>> Yeah, dude.
>> With a different name
on the money order...
>> It's really odd.
>> Yeah.
If Emily is in Philly...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Then who the hell
is she sending that money to?
>> Right. I feel like she's
in that house right there.
>> I mean, she really
could be, like, anywhere.
Her not being the girl
in the pictures would be
the least of the lies
at this point.
>> All right.
Investigation time.
Hello. Can I come in, please?
>> Okay.
>> All right, thanks.
[laughs]
>> All right, so let's just go
over everything.
>> Yeah.
>> Hundra sees this cute girl
on Facebook, reaches out.
They're into each other,
obviously.
Emily says, "My car
has broke down."
So Hundra's like, "No problem.
I'll send you some money
to fix it."
Doesn't fix it,
and then Hundra
started to get fed up.
>> Hundra said that she
gave her the ultimatum
that she was gonna
go on the show.
"Are you going to really
let me do this?"
>> Right.
She'd lived her whole life
afraid to discuss her feelings
towards women.
Well, let's see
what we can figure out
about this Emily girl.
We have an email from Hundra.
"I have attached the pictures
I have of her.
Here are the phone numbers
that I still have on my phone.
The cousin who I sent money to--
I do not remember the address.
It was in Brooklyn,
but I can't find it."
So let's just try and see
if anything comes up when we
search her current phone number.
Oh, boy.
>> Yes, nice.
>> We got a match.
Geralyn...
Philadelphia.
Well, we should search Geralyn.
Geralyn, 21. Lesbian.
>> Yeah. Oh, dude!
Dude.
>> This is her Facebook page.
Hold on.
>> Ha!
>> Wait.
Let's go through these pictures.
I mean,
she's more of a boyish look...
>> Right, right.
>> As the girl in the pictures
that she sent.
Oh, wait a second.
This is where it
might get complicated,
because it looks like she
might have a girlfriend.
>> A girlfriend.
>> Okay, so here
she is making out with a girl
from seven or eight months ago.
Who is she with?
>> Dude, dude, dude.
That's the one
from the pictures earlier.
>> Which pictures?
>> Hundra's.
Doesn't that look
like Emily to you?
>> Oh, that looks
like it could be the girl.
Here we go.
Look, look.
She does have a bunch of tats.
>> That is her, dude.
>> It is her.
>> That's her.
>> So hold on a second.
So figured out who the girl
in the pictures are.
It's a girl named Melanie.
She's a lesbian.
She lives in Philadelphia,
but she seems to be
in a very serious relationship
with Geralyn.
It's looking more likely that
Hundra's talking to Geralyn.
>> Why would Geralyn pimp photos
of her girl out?
Is Melanie
in on the whole thing?
>> Maybe.
>> Are they running a scam
on multiple people?
Maybe this is all a game.
>> There's still a lot
of questions,
but I feel like we're starting
to get a little bit closer
to figuring this out.
We got to go
over all this with her.
>> Yeah.
>> All right, cool.
Let's get this going.
There's definitely a new part
of the story now,
which is Geralyn.
>> Yeah.
>> She's definitely involved
somehow,
but the fact that Melanie,
the girl in the pictures,
is actually also very likely
involved--
I'm just not sure what Hundra's
gonna make of all this.
Hi.
>> Hi, how are you?
>> What's up?
>> Hi.
>> We got a lot to talk about.
>> Okay.
>> You feeling okay
about all this?
>> I'm feeling okay.
I'm just a little nervous.
>> I think we found
some interesting clues.
We are curious to see
if you can help us add it up.
>> Right.
>> Okay, so we started
searching the phone numbers.
The number you have for her now,
her current number...
>> Yeah.
>> That comes up registered
to someone named Geralyn.
Have you ever heard that name
before?
>> No.
>> That doesn't ring any bells?
>> No.
>> So we did a search
for Geralyn,
and the first thing that comes
up is a Facebook page.
So we went to her photos,
and we were just sort of--
started going through.
>> Does she look familiar?
>> That looks like Emily,
for sure,
and it looks like they're
in a relationship, obviously.
They're kissing and touching.
>> First of all,
her name is Melanie.
Here she is.
Have you heard that name before?
>> both: No.
>> And Melanie lives in Philly.
She's got a lot of photos.
Here are two of the photos
that you got of her.
And if we go down here,
there are a lot
of pictures of them together.
And she says, "My girlfriend,
my baby."
>> * You can't get away *
* From it
* And it goes wherever you go
>> Yeah.
>> Thank you.
>> Are you okay?
>> [crying]
>> * And it goes wherever
* You go
>> Yikes.
>> She's hurt, for sure.
>> You okay?
Should we keep going?
Okay.
So that's where we're at,
which is, like, trying
to figure out what the hell
is going on here.
What are your feelings
about the idea
that you might be talking
to that girl, Geralyn?
>> I don't want that.
I'm not attracted to girls
that dress like men,
but I still want to know
who this Emily is.
>> So I feel like if
we're committed to doing
whatever we have to
to get to the truth, like,
we could reach out to Melanie.
>> Yep.
>> Right.
>> Why don't we
send her a message?
"Hey, Melanie. This is Nev
from the MTV show 'Catfish.'
Can you please contact me
at your earliest convenience?"
All right, I'm sending this.
Let us know
if you hear from her,
and we'll meet up
first thing in the morning,
and we'll figure out
what you want to do.
>> Okay.
Thank you. Bye.
Thank you.
>> Yep.
I wish that Melanie girl
would hit back.
>> If nothing happens now,
we could still reach
out to Geralyn.
>> Right.
[cell phone ringing]
Dude, dude, dude, it's her.
>> Hello.
Yeah, hi. This is Nev.
Who's this?
Yeah, we reached out to you
because there's a girl
that we've been trying
to help out who's been
talking to this girl Emily,
but uses pictures of you.
Is there any way
we can meet up with you?
Great.
Okay, so we will definitely
be in touch.
Okay, bye.
Whoa.
>> The plot thickens.
>> So let's just
call Hundra now.
[line trilling]
>> Hello?
>> Hey, Hundra.
Melanie just got back to us.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> She said
we could meet her tomorrow.
All right, cool.
>> All right.
>> Bye.
All right, man. Good day.
>> Great day.
She's not here.
>> I'm a little nervous.
>> Oh, oh, oh.
There she is.
Hi.
>> Hi.
>> How you doing?
>> Good.
>> Nev.
>> Hi, I'm Kells.
>> Kells.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> And this is Hundra,
who you don't know yet,
but you will shortly.
>> That's got to be crazy
for Hundra.
>> Yeah,
it is a little weird, yeah.
>> All right, so let me explain
what's up here.
Have a seat. Have a seat.
Basically, nine months ago,
Hundra was on Facebook
and came across a profile
of a girl named Emily
with pictures of you that,
like, really caught her eye.
We spent the last couple days
looking into this whole
situation, and we found
some interesting things.
You might actually be able to
help us make sense out of them.
>> Lay it on me. Come on.
>> Okay, so the big question
is...
>> Do you know a Geralyn?
>> Yeah, my ex-girlfriend.
>> Whoa, okay.
>> Wait.
>> You have a girlfriend now?
>> Yes.
With my girlfriend now, me and
her broke up somewhat last year.
She had went to the Army.
Me and Geralyn were friends
for a while.
We ended up getting
into a relationship.
We broke up because I was still
in love with the other girl,
so I got back
with the other girl.
>> It wasn't, like, an ugly,
nasty breakup was it?
>> No, I literally just
told her how it was.
She took it pretty--
uh...
pretty well.
>> Whoa.
Okay, because the number that
Hundra is currently talking to
her on comes up registered
to Geralyn.
>> Oh, my God.
>> I'm a little shocked.
I've been picturing
you to be Emily this whole time.
So I kept staring at her
for a long, long time.
>> Oh, my God.
I feel like she played
with your heart.
I don't know what I would have
done if that would have happened
to me.
>> No, that's okay.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
All right, so now
we got to figure out what to do,
because it's looking
like Geralyn is the person
you've been talking to.
I feel like if you called her,
she probably would pick up.
>> Right, she would.
So call her?
>> Yeah.
[line trilling]
>> Yo.
So this gonna sound strange
and kind of weird,
but I'm with "Catfish."
They told me some things,
and I'm with Hundra.
You know Hundra?
>> [laughs]
>> This is funny?
Okay, well, would you be
willing to meet Hundra?
All right.
Bye.
>> Wow.
>> She was sort of trying to,
like, laugh it off a little bit.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> What does that mean for you
and Geralyn's friendship?
>> Honestly, I don't even know.
>> That's something I think
you should work out with her
separately.
>> Okay.
>> Text me her address.
We'll head over there,
and we'll talk to her,
and then maybe we'll check in
with you later.
>> Okay.
It was nice to meet you.
>> You too.
>> * Too late
* Too late to...
>> Okay.
Let's head over to Geralyn's.
>> * It goes on and on
>> It's definitely Geralyn.
>> * With every breath I take
>> But why would she make
a profile for her ex?
>> * Now I'm running *
* In circles
>> I think she wanted to try
and, like, create some drama
between Melanie
and her girlfriend.
>> Yeah, I agree.
>> * Do the right thing
* Let me fall
>> Why did she drag me
along that long?
It's like, what was the purpose
of that page?
>> * Cut the rope
* And let me fall
>> Are you a scam artist?
Were you trying to scam people,
or what is it?
>> * Cut the rope
* And let me fall
>> The thing that kills me
is she's in Philly.
Like, why would you even say
New York?
>> Well, 'cause you're here.
It was already hard
for her to come up with excuses
even just from here to New York.
>> Right.
>> But I guess she just
didn't think it was gonna turn
into something like this.
>> I wonder if Geralyn will be,
like, mad that we showed up.
>> [sighs] I don't know.
We never know what these people
that are gonna come out of the
house--what they're going to
say, how they're going to act.
I mean, you have every right
to be upset and angry,
but, like, don't let
her get the best of you.
>> Right.
>> This is it.
Here's the street.
>> [sighs]
>> [sighs] I'm a little nervous.
>> This is crazy.
>> Okay, let's do it.
>> [sighs]
>> This is the house.
You guys hang here.
I'll knock.
>> Must feel kind of nervous,
right?
'Cause I'm nervous.
You've got to feel--
>> I see it in your face.
>> Right, right, right.
I see it in your face, for sure.
Maybe you're making me nervous.
I don't know.
>> [laughs]
>> Yeah, this is gnarly.
I've never done
anything like this.
[knock at door]
Geralyn, Geralyn, Geralyn.
[door creaking]
>> Hey.
How you doing?
>> [chuckles]
>> Nev.
>> Geralyn.
>> She's nervous.
You can tell.
Still not your type?
>> Geralyn, this is Hundra,
and this is Machine Gun Kelly,
aka Kells.
>> What's up?
>> Go ahead.
>> Well, first and foremost,
you're not Emily.
>> I'm not.
I'm sorry.
[dog barking in the distance]
>> Okay.
>> Let me explain.
At first,
it was just a game to me.
>> Yeah, but I came
looking for you on the page.
It's not like you went after me.
I wrote you first.
>> I know, 'cause I was just
trying to get my ex mad.
>> Oh.
So that's Melanie, right?
>> Yeah.
>> What's that?
>> Melanie.
>> Oh, [bleep].
>> Yep.
>> Wait. Let me see that?
We're talking
about the same Melanie here?
>> Yeah.
>> Wow.
Did she get a tattoo?
>> Well, we were engaged.
Yeah, we both have--
>> You guys were engaged?
>> Yeah.
>> So you were, like, crazy
in love with this--with her.
So that must have [bleep]
sucked.
>> It did suck.
>> When she was like,
"You know what?
I think I'm still in love
with my ex."
>> Yep.
>> For Hundra,
this is the first time
she's ever really
pursued a woman.
You knew that.
>> Yep.
>> But I thought
that was a turn-on, though,
for gay girls to try
to convert a straight girl
into being straight,
so wouldn't that be something
you would have wanted
under your belt?
Like, "I converted
not just a regular black girl,
but a Haitian girl
into becoming gay."
That would have been something
you should have wanted
on your belt.
>> Well, you're making an
assumption..
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> But if I was her, like...
I don't know.
I used to tell her--
well, "Emily"--that I loved her,
and she used to tell me
that she loves me back,
and then I meet this.
It's like--
>> "This"?
>> Don't get me wrong,
but you're not Emily...
>> I know.
>> Or Melanie or whoever.
>> I'm not Emily.
I'm not a femme.
I'm me.
>> Do you have any
of the same kind of intensity
or feelings towards Hundra
that you felt for Melanie?
If there's a moment
to be totally--
>> Honest, it's now.
>> Level with her
so that she can make
the best decision for her.
Like, you've got to do that now.
>> I got it.
>> both: Yeah.
>> I was just trying
to be spiteful...
but then I actually
started to like you,
and then I felt
like I was in too deep,
and I didn't want to lose you at
the same time, but I wanted to--
>> Yeah, but you have been open
to me about a lot of things.
>> I've been real with you,
despite the pictures.
>> Well, a lot of it's not true.
I mean...
>> And then I sent you money.
Like, where's my money?
>> I never picked it up.
>> Okay, so--
>> I just wanted to see if you
really was riding for me or not.
>> How you know I rocked out
and really sent you the money?
>> I just took your word for it.
>> Like I've been
taking your word for it.
Okay.
>> From what I'm gathering,
like, she actually started
liking you, and I don't think
it's some deep, crazy scheme
going on.
>> I feel like now it sort of
needs to, like,
marinate a little bit.
You do your thing
and then meet up again tomorrow
and, like, see how it
feels starting a fresh day.
>> Okay.
>> Good to meet you.
>> Thank you.
>> Oh, wow.
Oh...
>> I mean, you're being
pretty harsh on her.
>> I really don't want that...
at all.
>> That's an ignorant way
to look at it.
>> Message came in.
>> From?
>> Geralyn.
>> Oh, really?
>> "Hey, Nev, can we meet up
today without Hundra?
I need to tell you
a few things."
>> Okay.
>> So my feeling was, like,
Hundra's whole weird philosophy
on lesbians trying
to convert--
>> Yeah, you're right.
>> I don't know
where she gets that from.
I don't know that Geralyn
would necessarily want
to be with someone who's like--
that doesn't seem like her vibe.
>> Right, right.
>> Maybe the move is we head
over to Geralyn's, find out
what she needs to tell us.
>> Yeah.
>> All right, then.
Is Geralyn really into Hundra?
I mean, Geralyn was definitely
crazy in love with Melanie.
I don't think she's over that.
>> I wonder if there's, like,
an interesting fact that
Geralyn's about to lay on us,
'cause, I mean, if she
was not interested in Hundra,
then she could probably
have just told Hundra that.
>> Okay.
Let's see what she's got to say.
[knock at door]
Hey.
>> Hey, guys.
>> Good morning. How you doing?
>> Good morning.
>> Can we come in with the crew?
>> Yeah.
>> All right, let's do it, guys.
Have a seat.
>> [sighs]
>> So did you and Hundra talk
at all between--
>> Nope.
>> No?
>> Listen...
I'm gonna be honest
with you guys.
>> Now she's gonna be honest.
All right, what's up?
>> I don't know Hundra.
>> You don't know Hundra?
>> What do you mean
you don't know Hundra?
>> I've only been talking to her
for about, like, four weeks.
>> So you mean
the whole nine-months thing
isn't actually true?
>> It's not true, no.
>> So you guys only
started talking four weeks ago?
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
>> See, but you still
have been talking to her?
>> Okay, um...
Well, obviously,
she contacted the show.
>> Right.
>> But it's just, like--
It's not true.
Don't know Hundra.
Don't like her at all like that.
>> Wait.
Melanie knew Hundra?
>> Yeah.
>> So Melanie knows
that this is all fake too?
Either you guys are, like,
Academy Award-winning actors or,
like--
'Cause you guys are--
>> Okay, so hold on.
So you and Melanie
are for real ex-girlfriends?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> That's true.
>> And a month ago, Hundra
contacted you guys
and said, "Hey, I want to get
on this show 'Catfish.'"
>> I don't know.
I don't know
if it was like that.
I have no idea.
>> That's bull[bleep].
There's got to be some reason
you're involved in this.
Was it because you thought
you could get on the show?
Why would you
risk your reputation
just to help some girl
you don't know?
>> If Melanie wanted to help
her, then...
I love her, so I'm gonna help.
>> So Melanie asked you to help
her and encouraged
you to get involved?
>> Well, yeah.
She needs help,
I'm gonna help her, okay?
I'm down. I'm riding.
>> Help her what, though?
>> Is Hundra even lesbian?
Does she even like girls?
>> I have no idea, but the way
she's trying to make me look
out there was like--
I'm just trying
to turn straight girls out.
No, that's not how--
You don't portray a lesbian
that way.
I don't want to be made to look
on TV like I'm that person.
>> I'm still not sure
I understand the situation.
Why are we here?
>> I could be with my daughter
on Father's Day right now.
Does Hundra know
that we know this right
now that you told us?
>> Nope.
>> So Hundra thinks
that we believe her?
>> Yeah.
>> Piece of [bleep].
I'm pretty [bleep] mad.
There's really no point
in us being here.
I'm [bleep] out, for sure.
[bleep] idiot.
Let's go get Hundra.
I'm about to go crazy
on this little woman, man.
>> All right. "Hey, ladies,
would love to chat."
>> It was all, like,
a plot just to get on TV.
>> Swear to God,
I'm mad as [bleep].
>> All right.
>> Sorry.
>> * You know how to get in
[car door closes]
>> I didn't sign up here
to come help some stupid little
[bleep] girls find a little 15--
>> I know.
>> Not even minutes--
15 seconds of [bleep] fame.
>> I feel like a snitch now.
>> What if Melanie was doing
some stupid [bleep] and--
Right.
The only person
who could manipulate Geralyn
into doing this is Melanie,
'cause she's got her wrapped
around her finger.
>> Yes.
>> I feel like she's still not
giving us the whole truth,
because she's trying
to protect Melanie.
>> I did it for love.
That's it.
>> I am curious to just
sort of see if we can--
>> Find out why they did it.
>> Just like get a straight
story that makes sense.
>> Yeah.
Is this them pulling up?
>> Did you come with Hundra?
>> No.
>> No.
Oh, here she is.
>> Hi.
>> So what's up?
>> Really?
So you just steal pictures
and talk to people?
I'm talking to you.
>> I can hear you.
>> So speak.
Like, you think that's cool?
>> It's over, yo.
>> What's over?
What's over?
>> This whole thing is over.
>> What do you mean?
>> She spilled the beans.
Y'all playing us.
Hundra, you want
to tell us something?
You knew them already, huh?
>> So that was it?
You just wanted to come out?
You had to have at least
had a reason to want
to be on television.
Why does the world
need to know that you're gay?
>> When you're in a culture
that hates
what you have to become,
it's not that easy.
So, yeah, in a way, the world
should give a [bleep].
I don't want
to keep hiding myself.
>> But what's the world
gonna take away from this?
Right now you're setting
a really bad example for people.
>> How?
>> Because you lied,
and you also speak on gays...
like they have a disease.
>> I feel like I can call
them certain names
because I've been in their world
for a while.
>> On paper, like,
I think your crusade to liberate
Haitian women across the nation
is, like, beautiful, and,
like, there are very real ways
that one could do that.
And this is the worst way
to do it.
This is incredibly selfish.
>> 'Cause you don't look
like a hero.
>> Okay, well, this is done.
>> Yeah.
Thank you.
So why are you smiling?
What's funny?
>> It's not funny.
It's just [bleep] up.
It is.
>> And why did you go along
with this?
What do you have invested
in her?
>> Sucker.
You are a sucker.
You.
Corny.
You are corny.
>> So a random girl just hits
you up on the Internet and says,
like, "Hey, will you help me
lie on national television?"
You're like, "Sure."
>> Well, it wasn't like that.
I mean,
she wasn't a random girl.
I mean, we were friends.
>> I just don't see
you and Hundra being friends.
I don't get that pairing.
>> No, but we are, though.
I mean, I wouldn't say we're,
like, the best of friends.
I'm like, "Oh..."
Now we're not friends.
I regret all of it.
You're corny.
You're not a hero.
You are a shameful citizen.
Like...
And she runs away
from her problems.
Are you kidding me?
You know what the [bleep]
I had to do to get here?
What a coward, dude.
You're a coward, man.
>> Why wouldn't you say,
like, "Hey, Hundra,
we want to help you,
but I'm not about to make
my [bleep] ex-girlfriend look
like an ass[bleep]."
When we came up here yesterday,
she made it sound like Geralyn
was just trying to, like,
put a notch on her belt and,
like, convert a straight girl.
>> Oh, my God.
>> Is she blackmailing you?
Like, what--
Why would you go through
with this?
>> I don't know.
>> You did it for her.
>> Yeah, pretty much.
>> Well, the lesson here,
obviously, is if you're gonna
get involved in something,
you got to, like,
think about what that means.
>> Yeah.
>> Right.
>> I mean, for both of you--
like, you know,
you guys put yourselves
in a [bleep] situation and,
like, risked your reputation.
>> For the whole world to see.
>> Yeah.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah.
>> It sucks.
I just want to apologize.
I'm sorry.
>> All right.
Well, good luck with everything.
>> Hundra, man...
the mastermind.
Who would have [bleep] thunk?
>> Never did I think--
>> This is the conclusion.
>> I don't even know
what to think.
>> This episode of
Catfish: the TV Show"
continues now.
Well, I'm back in my hotel
room...
trying to sort of just, like...
process everything
that's been going--
[laughs]
Everything that went down.
It's definitely upsetting.
I don't like...
being made
to look like a fool.
[sighs]
I just don't know
what's up with Hundra.
I can't figure it out.
Well, speak of the devil.
I just got a text message
from Hundra, saying
that she's at my hotel.
"Can I talk to you, only you?"
Okay.
Be curious to see
what she has to say.
Let's go talk to Hundra.
Hey.
How you doing?
You want to talk about it?
So I was hoping
we'd get a chance to talk,
'cause, obviously, things got
a little crazy at the end there.
>> Well, me personally,
I'm not gonna
apologize for anything.
I'm really not,
because regardless
how you felt about how I did it,
I wanted my coming out to be
something "rememorable" for me.
>> I don't think
this is going to get you further
with the friends and family
that you care about.
They're now going
to be so surprised that this
happened that they're not even
going to focus on the fact
that you're gay.
It's going to just be
like, "Well, why'd you lie?
Why'd you have to go on TV?"
>> Not necessarily.
>> But isn't this gonna
be worse?
>> For my mom?
>> Yeah.
Now friends and family--they're
all gonna hear about this.
If you wanted people to know
you were gay, there were, like,
a lot of little things you
could have tried before this.
That's all.
>> There was, but--
>> I think your intentions,
in terms of creating an episode
of a show
that addresses homosexuality--
like, that is incredibly
important.
>> * Will we make it?*
>> But I feel like that's going
to get dwarfed
by this [bleep]-up craziness
of all this.
>> Maybe I do have a different
mind-set of everybody else,
but everybody's different.
>> I really do encourage
you to have a discussion
with your family
before this TV show comes out,
just so that they're not totally
blindsided by it,
but that's up to you.
And with that I will just say
good-bye.
>> Okay.
>> Good luck.
>> Thank you.
>> * Got me angry
* So I
* Called you names
*
* Now it's gone *
[line trilling]
>> Nev, what up, dude?
>> Yo.
What's good?
>> Chillin', chillin'.
Just on tour right now.
>> Nice.
So, first, we're gonna talk
to Geralyn.
>> Right, right.
>> And I think Melanie
might actually be there.
>> Oh, sick. All right, cool.
>> All right, you ready?
I'll add Geralyn.
Hey-o.
>> Hey.
>> Hey.
What's been the aftermath
with this whole crazy situation?
>> I think that thing
with her was just so weird,
'cause it was
like it didn't really seem
that there was anything
in it for you guys.
>> Why do you think she
would go through with all this?
All right, so, aside
from all of that,
I see that you guys
are hanging out,
but, like, has any--
Oh, okay. Oh.
[girls laugh]
I'm glad that you're still
friends and that you made it
through this weird thing
together.
>> Again, I'm sorry.
>> Yeah, I'm sorry.
>> I am so sorry, you guys.
>> All right, ladies,
you guys be good, okay?
We'll speak to you soon.
>> All right.
>> Bye.
>> Bye.
[line trilling]
>> Hey, Hundra.
How you doing?
>> I'm fine.
>> Have you now
told your friends and family
that you're exploring
your sexuality?
>> I've been talking to girls,
and my friends have been out on
dates with me and other girls,
so I'm just testing it out,
because, you know, I came out.
>> How do you feel
about how you chose to come out?
>> I'm not happy
about how I went about with it,
'cause people that know me--
they're gonna know that,
"Hundra's not that type of
person.
Like, why would she go that far
just to get, whatever,
attention?"
>> Well, and you wasted our
time.
>> I mean, I wasn't necessarily
wasting time,
because everybody still
got something out of it.
You're still a rapper that's
about to be on a television show
because of whatever I came up
with.
>> Oh, don't even--
>> If you want an apology
for wasting your time--
I don't feel bad, because I feel
as though I'm a person
that got you to my attention.
>> But the way you did it
by lying and disrespecting
your community--
I just feel like this would have
been the perfect opportunity
to learn from it and be like,
"Oh, [bleep].
I don't want to be like this."
>> I'm not gonna go
and reverse my words
and say, "I regret how I went
about it with myself,"
'cause there's nothing
that I can take back.
>> Okay.
>> It's just that.
>> I guess that's it.
I guess, you know--
>> Okay.
>> Bye for now.
>> Later.
>> Okay.
She hasn't changed much.
>> No comment.
[both laugh]
>> All right, later, Kells.
>> Later, guys.
>> Peace.
>> "She could be the one for me.
I've even asked her
to come live with me."
>> I went to her house.
Her uncle answered,
and he told me no one
by that name lived there.
>> "18-year-old takes police
on stolen-vehicle chase."
She could have a little bit
of a record.
If I were in your shoes,
I would be freaking out.
>> Somebody's looking.
>> What the hell is going on?
1710
00:41:04.
We get out?
>> Yeah.
>> Sucker.
You are a sucker.
>> Kelly, don't go over there.
>> Hell, no.
I'm telling her, man.
[bleep] that.
>> So why are you smiling?
What's funny?
>> You're not a hero.
You are a shameful citizen.
And she runs away from her
problems.
Like, what a coward, dude.
You're a coward, man.
Are you kidding me?
You know what the [bleep]
I had to do to get here?
>> Thank you.
>> You guys don't know it yet,
but there are very
special guests on this episode.
You're gonna like 'em.
He's a busy man.
He was just doing a performance
or something, so we had to meet
here in Philly.
>> Hey.
>> Super excited to have
Machine Gun Kelly.
>> * My city, my city
>> He's a bad-boy rapper.
He's an actor.
MGK.
>> * Till I die
* Till I die
>> Been hearing about you.
You've been starring
in all my brother's movies.
>> Got to meet
the kid brother, man.
Nice.
>> Welcome to the show.
>> Thank you.
>> Have you seen the show?
>> Of course.
I'm rooting for love.
>> Wow. Already.
>> Already.
>> Rooting for love.
Okay, good.
I don't even know the story.
All I know is that it's
somewhere
in the Philadelphia area,
which is why we met here.
Have a seat.
>> Okay.
>> So you've been
in my brother's last two movies
that haven't come out yet--
"Viral" and "Nerve"...
>> Yeah.
>> Which is how we kind
of know each other.
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> So have you met Max?
>> I haven't met Max.
>> Maybe you'll be
in his next movie?
Who knows?
Yeah, just eye--
just give him the eye.
[laughter]
Let's find out
what the story is.
>> Oh, dude, this is sick.
>> We got one.
The subject is--
>> "This is so much more than
just finding out the truth."
>> "Dear Nev, my name is Hundra.
I am a 21-year-old girl
from Philadelphia.
Please could you help me?
I met an amazing girl
named Emily from New York City
on Facebook nine months ago.
>> * I had a feeling you broke
* And the smoke filled you up
>> "We started out as friends,
but our relationship
grew into so much more."
>> * Again, again, again
* I wasn't thinking 'bout you *
* I wasn't thinking 'bout you *
>> "Emily is my first girlfriend
and the first girl
I ever felt this way for.
She made me feel like it's okay
to be myself and love
who I choose."
>> * But in a week
* Might our weakness elude
>> "I still love her, but I feel
like she's playing a game.
Even though we both live close,
when I try to meet her,
it always falls apart.
I even drove to her place
one day,
and at the last minute,
she told me she had left town."
>> Oh, no.
>> "I know you guys
hear a lot of stories.
However, my situation
is different.
Me asking you for help is risky.
I may lose a lot doing this.
I say this because my family
is from Haiti."
>> Oh.
"And we come from a very strict
way of life."
>> "Homosexuality is not
tolerated."
>> Crazy.
>> "I have not told my family
that I am dating women and run
the risk of them disowning me."
Jeez.
"I really care for this girl,
and I'm willing to show
the world who I am
to get the answers I need.
Can you guys help?"
>> Yes.
For sure, 'cause
this Emily girl is getting
on my nerves right now.
>> I mean,
that's a really big deal,
especially in her case, where,
you know, her family
is against homosexuality.
>> They're probably, like,
super strict.
Should we call her?
>> I think we should.
[line trilling]
>> Hey.
>> Hi.
>> How you doing?
>> I'm doing fine.
>> So Max couldn't be
on this episode.
He's editing his film,
but we got a guy.
I think you're gonna really like
him.
His professional name
is Machine Gun Kelly,
but you can call him Kells.
>> Okay.
I think I'm gonna
call him Kells.
>> So we read your email.
I have to say it's very brave
of you to let us help you,
because this is your coming out.
>> Yeah.
>> How are you feeling
about that right now?
>> Honestly,
I'm a little nervous.
She's the only girl
I've felt that way about.
I still want to do it for myself
and other Haitian kids around,
because I know, like,
being gay is not something that
we're supposed to think about.
>> Have you had relationships
in the past?
>> Yeah. I've had a lot
of relationships with boys.
I just got my heart
broken not too long ago.
>> Is Emily the only woman
you can see yourself with?
>> Yeah, she is,
because that's the only female
that I've been "conversating"
with on that type of level.
>> How did you and Emily meet?
>> I contacted her when I had
gotten my heart broken by my ex.
I was feeling gay for a day,
so I'm like, "Hey,
let me just be gay for a day
and see what happens."
I was just
going through Facebook
looking at girls' pictures.
I came across her picture.
I'm like, "Oh, snap.
This girl's really cute.
Let me just hit her up
and see what happens,
and we hit off
right then and there.
And then she gave me her number.
She opened up
to me about her personal
situations with her family.
How hard it was
for her to come out.
She made me understand
it's okay to be gay.
I really do love her,
and she's pretty.
>> So that's part
of the package to you,
like, she has to be
who she looks like?
>> I would hope so.
>> And you said you guys
have tried to meet up before?
>> Yeah. I actually tried
to drive to her.
She made it seem
like she was still home,
everything like that.
So, when I drove there, it
was supposed to be a surprise.
Then when I got there, I was
like, "Hey, I'm in New York.
Where are you at?"
She was just like, "Oh,
I'm gone on family vacation."
And then on a couple occasions,
she said that something
was wrong with her car.
I was nice enough to even
send her money
to try to get her car
on the road.
>> Oh, no.
So why do you keep texting her
if you know that she's giving
you, like, the spin-around?
>> 'Cause I want to see her.
Like, I just feel like it's
really meant for me to meet her,
because she's made
me understand I don't have
to be scared because my parents
are gonna disown me,
but I'm just starting
to get frustrated.
I feel like I'm wasting my time.
>> I mean, your whole identity
is sort of wrapped up
in this girl who may or may not
be who she says she is,
and you need to figure this out.
So we want to help.
>> I would gladly appreciate
that.
>> If you're close by,
we can just head over there,
and we can talk
a lot more about this.
And look, if nothing else,
this is just an important moment
in your life.
Thanks for sharing with us.
I mean, that's a big deal.
>> You're welcome.
>> All right, Hundra.
Hang tight.
We will see you really soon.
>> Okay.
Thank you, guys.
>> All right.
>> both: Bye.
>> Wow.
>> I think that she's gay,
but not comfortable saying it.
I think that's why she'll keep,
like, making little excuses,
like, "I'm gay for a day."
>> It's pretty interesting.
>> It's like we're all,
like, strapped up for the ride
that we don't know
where it's going.
>> I'm excited
to meet this girl.
>> Yeah, let's do it.
>> Just a quick drive
over to Hundra.
*
>> I feel like Hundra
was so straight
to the point with everything.
>> I don't think she's the kind
of person that's gonna
have a hard time
expressing how she feels.
>> That's what
I'm talking about.
>> * Try to tell the truth
* Always
>> So this is the neighborhood.
>> Oh, it's definitely the hood
right here.
>> I don't know. Is it?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> It's not so bad around here.
>> No, it's the hood.
No, I know the hood
when I see the hood.
That's one thing I'm good for.
>> Let's do this.
Hey.
>> Hi.
>> You're tall.
>> I know, right?
Big man.
>> Yeah.
>> All right, you're cute.
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And definitely stunning
in person.
>> Thank you.
>> All right, cool.
Well, let's sit down
and chat for a minute.
>> Okay.
>> So how are you feeling?
>> I'm a little nervous.
I'm about to get
on national television
and express my feeling
towards a girl.
I'm a Haitian, and to my
culture, they look at it as you
disrespecting your family.
>> Have you ever said anything
to her, like, "Hey,
if you're not being straight
with me,
like, please tell me what's up?"
>> I said it to her
not too long ago.
I was like, "Look, I'm really
thinking about doing something
that could affect my whole life
when it comes down to you,
so please tell me
what it really is."
She was just basically like,
"Oh, babe,
I would never do that to you."
>> But there's some pretty
big sort of red flags.
The first one is sending money.
>> I sent it to her
through Western Union.
She sent me a Brooklyn address,
and then when she sent me
the address she sent me a name,
but it wasn't Emily.
She said it was her cousin.
>> Did you get a confirmation
that she picked up the money?
>> I don't think
I have any of that.
>> Wow.
>> And then over the course of
the nine months, she's text me
from five different numbers.
>> Wow.
>> Five?
>> Her most recent number
is this number.
As you can see,
it's a 267 number.
>> Is that an area code
for here?
>> Yeah.
>> Which is weird, right?
>> Right.
'Cause you're in New York.
A New York area code
is 917, 347--
>> 646.
>> Yeah.
>> Well, I'm so curious.
What photos do you have?
How many pictures
has she sent you?
>> Three.
>> Wait.
The whole time you guys have
been talking, she's only
text-messaged you three
pictures?
>> Mm-hmm.
>> I don't like that.
>> I seen a couple more from
her Facebook page,
but she deactivated her Facebook
page.
>> Wow.
>> Do you have the pictures?
'Cause me and Nev
haven't seen the pictures.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Let's see.
Oh, she's got some tats.
>> Yeah.
>> both: Okay.
>> Really cute.
>> Yes.
>> We weren't sure
if she was gonna be,
like, a Victoria's Secret model
or something.
>> No, she's regular cute.
>> It's so interesting,
'cause you seem extremely smart,
but for some reason,
like, Emily has this,
like, spot in your life that,
like, all of those things go--
like, wisp away.
>> Yeah.
>> You don't seem like the kind
of person who puts up
with people's bull[bleep].
>> No. That's
why I'm getting irked,
but I still want to know
who I've been talking to,
because that person
has made it easier
for me to find a side of myself
that I never wanted to share
with nobody else.
I'm putting so much on the line
to show to somebody that I've
been talking to for so long
that I really do love you,
'cause if I didn't, obviously,
I wouldn't be putting myself
through all this.
>> All right,
so give us the night
to kind of do some research.
Tomorrow we'll check back
in with you, let we know
what you find out.
>> The Emily mystery begins.
>> Yeah. All right. Well,
let's get out of here, then.
>> Thank you, guys.
>> All right,
we'll see you later.
>> Bye.
>> Whew. What a story.
>> Yeah, dude.
>> With a different name
on the money order...
>> It's really odd.
>> Yeah.
If Emily is in Philly...
>> Mm-hmm.
>> Then who the hell
is she sending that money to?
>> Right. I feel like she's
in that house right there.
>> I mean, she really
could be, like, anywhere.
Her not being the girl
in the pictures would be
the least of the lies
at this point.
>> All right.
Investigation time.
Hello. Can I come in, please?
>> Okay.
>> All right, thanks.
[laughs]
>> All right, so let's just go
over everything.
>> Yeah.
>> Hundra sees this cute girl
on Facebook, reaches out.
They're into each other,
obviously.
Emily says, "My car
has broke down."
So Hundra's like, "No problem.
I'll send you some money
to fix it."
Doesn't fix it,
and then Hundra
started to get fed up.
>> Hundra said that she
gave her the ultimatum
that she was gonna
go on the show.
"Are you going to really
let me do this?"
>> Right.
She'd lived her whole life
afraid to discuss her feelings
towards women.
Well, let's see
what we can figure out
about this Emily girl.
We have an email from Hundra.
"I have attached the pictures
I have of her.
Here are the phone numbers
that I still have on my phone.
The cousin who I sent money to--
I do not remember the address.
It was in Brooklyn,
but I can't find it."
So let's just try and see
if anything comes up when we
search her current phone number.
Oh, boy.
>> Yes, nice.
>> We got a match.
Geralyn...
Philadelphia.
Well, we should search Geralyn.
Geralyn, 21. Lesbian.
>> Yeah. Oh, dude!
Dude.
>> This is her Facebook page.
Hold on.
>> Ha!
>> Wait.
Let's go through these pictures.
I mean,
she's more of a boyish look...
>> Right, right.
>> As the girl in the pictures
that she sent.
Oh, wait a second.
This is where it
might get complicated,
because it looks like she
might have a girlfriend.
>> A girlfriend.
>> Okay, so here
she is making out with a girl
from seven or eight months ago.
Who is she with?
>> Dude, dude, dude.
That's the one
from the pictures earlier.
>> Which pictures?
>> Hundra's.
Doesn't that look
like Emily to you?
>> Oh, that looks
like it could be the girl.
Here we go.
Look, look.
She does have a bunch of tats.
>> That is her, dude.
>> It is her.
>> That's her.
>> So hold on a second.
So figured out who the girl
in the pictures are.
It's a girl named Melanie.
She's a lesbian.
She lives in Philadelphia,
but she seems to be
in a very serious relationship
with Geralyn.
It's looking more likely that
Hundra's talking to Geralyn.
>> Why would Geralyn pimp photos
of her girl out?
Is Melanie
in on the whole thing?
>> Maybe.
>> Are they running a scam
on multiple people?
Maybe this is all a game.
>> There's still a lot
of questions,
but I feel like we're starting
to get a little bit closer
to figuring this out.
We got to go
over all this with her.
>> Yeah.
>> All right, cool.
Let's get this going.
There's definitely a new part
of the story now,
which is Geralyn.
>> Yeah.
>> She's definitely involved
somehow,
but the fact that Melanie,
the girl in the pictures,
is actually also very likely
involved--
I'm just not sure what Hundra's
gonna make of all this.
Hi.
>> Hi, how are you?
>> What's up?
>> Hi.
>> We got a lot to talk about.
>> Okay.
>> You feeling okay
about all this?
>> I'm feeling okay.
I'm just a little nervous.
>> I think we found
some interesting clues.
We are curious to see
if you can help us add it up.
>> Right.
>> Okay, so we started
searching the phone numbers.
The number you have for her now,
her current number...
>> Yeah.
>> That comes up registered
to someone named Geralyn.
Have you ever heard that name
before?
>> No.
>> That doesn't ring any bells?
>> No.
>> So we did a search
for Geralyn,
and the first thing that comes
up is a Facebook page.
So we went to her photos,
and we were just sort of--
started going through.
>> Does she look familiar?
>> That looks like Emily,
for sure,
and it looks like they're
in a relationship, obviously.
They're kissing and touching.
>> First of all,
her name is Melanie.
Here she is.
Have you heard that name before?
>> both: No.
>> And Melanie lives in Philly.
She's got a lot of photos.
Here are two of the photos
that you got of her.
And if we go down here,
there are a lot
of pictures of them together.
And she says, "My girlfriend,
my baby."
>> * You can't get away *
* From it
* And it goes wherever you go
>> Yeah.
>> Thank you.
>> Are you okay?
>> [crying]
>> * And it goes wherever
* You go
>> Yikes.
>> She's hurt, for sure.
>> You okay?
Should we keep going?
Okay.
So that's where we're at,
which is, like, trying
to figure out what the hell
is going on here.
What are your feelings
about the idea
that you might be talking
to that girl, Geralyn?
>> I don't want that.
I'm not attracted to girls
that dress like men,
but I still want to know
who this Emily is.
>> So I feel like if
we're committed to doing
whatever we have to
to get to the truth, like,
we could reach out to Melanie.
>> Yep.
>> Right.
>> Why don't we
send her a message?
"Hey, Melanie. This is Nev
from the MTV show 'Catfish.'
Can you please contact me
at your earliest convenience?"
All right, I'm sending this.
Let us know
if you hear from her,
and we'll meet up
first thing in the morning,
and we'll figure out
what you want to do.
>> Okay.
Thank you. Bye.
Thank you.
>> Yep.
I wish that Melanie girl
would hit back.
>> If nothing happens now,
we could still reach
out to Geralyn.
>> Right.
[cell phone ringing]
Dude, dude, dude, it's her.
>> Hello.
Yeah, hi. This is Nev.
Who's this?
Yeah, we reached out to you
because there's a girl
that we've been trying
to help out who's been
talking to this girl Emily,
but uses pictures of you.
Is there any way
we can meet up with you?
Great.
Okay, so we will definitely
be in touch.
Okay, bye.
Whoa.
>> The plot thickens.
>> So let's just
call Hundra now.
[line trilling]
>> Hello?
>> Hey, Hundra.
Melanie just got back to us.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> She said
we could meet her tomorrow.
All right, cool.
>> All right.
>> Bye.
All right, man. Good day.
>> Great day.
She's not here.
>> I'm a little nervous.
>> Oh, oh, oh.
There she is.
Hi.
>> Hi.
>> How you doing?
>> Good.
>> Nev.
>> Hi, I'm Kells.
>> Kells.
>> Nice to meet you.
>> And this is Hundra,
who you don't know yet,
but you will shortly.
>> That's got to be crazy
for Hundra.
>> Yeah,
it is a little weird, yeah.
>> All right, so let me explain
what's up here.
Have a seat. Have a seat.
Basically, nine months ago,
Hundra was on Facebook
and came across a profile
of a girl named Emily
with pictures of you that,
like, really caught her eye.
We spent the last couple days
looking into this whole
situation, and we found
some interesting things.
You might actually be able to
help us make sense out of them.
>> Lay it on me. Come on.
>> Okay, so the big question
is...
>> Do you know a Geralyn?
>> Yeah, my ex-girlfriend.
>> Whoa, okay.
>> Wait.
>> You have a girlfriend now?
>> Yes.
With my girlfriend now, me and
her broke up somewhat last year.
She had went to the Army.
Me and Geralyn were friends
for a while.
We ended up getting
into a relationship.
We broke up because I was still
in love with the other girl,
so I got back
with the other girl.
>> It wasn't, like, an ugly,
nasty breakup was it?
>> No, I literally just
told her how it was.
She took it pretty--
uh...
pretty well.
>> Whoa.
Okay, because the number that
Hundra is currently talking to
her on comes up registered
to Geralyn.
>> Oh, my God.
>> I'm a little shocked.
I've been picturing
you to be Emily this whole time.
So I kept staring at her
for a long, long time.
>> Oh, my God.
I feel like she played
with your heart.
I don't know what I would have
done if that would have happened
to me.
>> No, that's okay.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
All right, so now
we got to figure out what to do,
because it's looking
like Geralyn is the person
you've been talking to.
I feel like if you called her,
she probably would pick up.
>> Right, she would.
So call her?
>> Yeah.
[line trilling]
>> Yo.
So this gonna sound strange
and kind of weird,
but I'm with "Catfish."
They told me some things,
and I'm with Hundra.
You know Hundra?
>> [laughs]
>> This is funny?
Okay, well, would you be
willing to meet Hundra?
All right.
Bye.
>> Wow.
>> She was sort of trying to,
like, laugh it off a little bit.
>> Mm-hmm.
>> What does that mean for you
and Geralyn's friendship?
>> Honestly, I don't even know.
>> That's something I think
you should work out with her
separately.
>> Okay.
>> Text me her address.
We'll head over there,
and we'll talk to her,
and then maybe we'll check in
with you later.
>> Okay.
It was nice to meet you.
>> You too.
>> * Too late
* Too late to...
>> Okay.
Let's head over to Geralyn's.
>> * It goes on and on
>> It's definitely Geralyn.
>> * With every breath I take
>> But why would she make
a profile for her ex?
>> * Now I'm running *
* In circles
>> I think she wanted to try
and, like, create some drama
between Melanie
and her girlfriend.
>> Yeah, I agree.
>> * Do the right thing
* Let me fall
>> Why did she drag me
along that long?
It's like, what was the purpose
of that page?
>> * Cut the rope
* And let me fall
>> Are you a scam artist?
Were you trying to scam people,
or what is it?
>> * Cut the rope
* And let me fall
>> The thing that kills me
is she's in Philly.
Like, why would you even say
New York?
>> Well, 'cause you're here.
It was already hard
for her to come up with excuses
even just from here to New York.
>> Right.
>> But I guess she just
didn't think it was gonna turn
into something like this.
>> I wonder if Geralyn will be,
like, mad that we showed up.
>> [sighs] I don't know.
We never know what these people
that are gonna come out of the
house--what they're going to
say, how they're going to act.
I mean, you have every right
to be upset and angry,
but, like, don't let
her get the best of you.
>> Right.
>> This is it.
Here's the street.
>> [sighs]
>> [sighs] I'm a little nervous.
>> This is crazy.
>> Okay, let's do it.
>> [sighs]
>> This is the house.
You guys hang here.
I'll knock.
>> Must feel kind of nervous,
right?
'Cause I'm nervous.
You've got to feel--
>> I see it in your face.
>> Right, right, right.
I see it in your face, for sure.
Maybe you're making me nervous.
I don't know.
>> [laughs]
>> Yeah, this is gnarly.
I've never done
anything like this.
[knock at door]
Geralyn, Geralyn, Geralyn.
[door creaking]
>> Hey.
How you doing?
>> [chuckles]
>> Nev.
>> Geralyn.
>> She's nervous.
You can tell.
Still not your type?
>> Geralyn, this is Hundra,
and this is Machine Gun Kelly,
aka Kells.
>> What's up?
>> Go ahead.
>> Well, first and foremost,
you're not Emily.
>> I'm not.
I'm sorry.
[dog barking in the distance]
>> Okay.
>> Let me explain.
At first,
it was just a game to me.
>> Yeah, but I came
looking for you on the page.
It's not like you went after me.
I wrote you first.
>> I know, 'cause I was just
trying to get my ex mad.
>> Oh.
So that's Melanie, right?
>> Yeah.
>> What's that?
>> Melanie.
>> Oh, [bleep].
>> Yep.
>> Wait. Let me see that?
We're talking
about the same Melanie here?
>> Yeah.
>> Wow.
Did she get a tattoo?
>> Well, we were engaged.
Yeah, we both have--
>> You guys were engaged?
>> Yeah.
>> So you were, like, crazy
in love with this--with her.
So that must have [bleep]
sucked.
>> It did suck.
>> When she was like,
"You know what?
I think I'm still in love
with my ex."
>> Yep.
>> For Hundra,
this is the first time
she's ever really
pursued a woman.
You knew that.
>> Yep.
>> But I thought
that was a turn-on, though,
for gay girls to try
to convert a straight girl
into being straight,
so wouldn't that be something
you would have wanted
under your belt?
Like, "I converted
not just a regular black girl,
but a Haitian girl
into becoming gay."
That would have been something
you should have wanted
on your belt.
>> Well, you're making an
assumption..
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> But if I was her, like...
I don't know.
I used to tell her--
well, "Emily"--that I loved her,
and she used to tell me
that she loves me back,
and then I meet this.
It's like--
>> "This"?
>> Don't get me wrong,
but you're not Emily...
>> I know.
>> Or Melanie or whoever.
>> I'm not Emily.
I'm not a femme.
I'm me.
>> Do you have any
of the same kind of intensity
or feelings towards Hundra
that you felt for Melanie?
If there's a moment
to be totally--
>> Honest, it's now.
>> Level with her
so that she can make
the best decision for her.
Like, you've got to do that now.
>> I got it.
>> both: Yeah.
>> I was just trying
to be spiteful...
but then I actually
started to like you,
and then I felt
like I was in too deep,
and I didn't want to lose you at
the same time, but I wanted to--
>> Yeah, but you have been open
to me about a lot of things.
>> I've been real with you,
despite the pictures.
>> Well, a lot of it's not true.
I mean...
>> And then I sent you money.
Like, where's my money?
>> I never picked it up.
>> Okay, so--
>> I just wanted to see if you
really was riding for me or not.
>> How you know I rocked out
and really sent you the money?
>> I just took your word for it.
>> Like I've been
taking your word for it.
Okay.
>> From what I'm gathering,
like, she actually started
liking you, and I don't think
it's some deep, crazy scheme
going on.
>> I feel like now it sort of
needs to, like,
marinate a little bit.
You do your thing
and then meet up again tomorrow
and, like, see how it
feels starting a fresh day.
>> Okay.
>> Good to meet you.
>> Thank you.
>> Oh, wow.
Oh...
>> I mean, you're being
pretty harsh on her.
>> I really don't want that...
at all.
>> That's an ignorant way
to look at it.
>> Message came in.
>> From?
>> Geralyn.
>> Oh, really?
>> "Hey, Nev, can we meet up
today without Hundra?
I need to tell you
a few things."
>> Okay.
>> So my feeling was, like,
Hundra's whole weird philosophy
on lesbians trying
to convert--
>> Yeah, you're right.
>> I don't know
where she gets that from.
I don't know that Geralyn
would necessarily want
to be with someone who's like--
that doesn't seem like her vibe.
>> Right, right.
>> Maybe the move is we head
over to Geralyn's, find out
what she needs to tell us.
>> Yeah.
>> All right, then.
Is Geralyn really into Hundra?
I mean, Geralyn was definitely
crazy in love with Melanie.
I don't think she's over that.
>> I wonder if there's, like,
an interesting fact that
Geralyn's about to lay on us,
'cause, I mean, if she
was not interested in Hundra,
then she could probably
have just told Hundra that.
>> Okay.
Let's see what she's got to say.
[knock at door]
Hey.
>> Hey, guys.
>> Good morning. How you doing?
>> Good morning.
>> Can we come in with the crew?
>> Yeah.
>> All right, let's do it, guys.
Have a seat.
>> [sighs]
>> So did you and Hundra talk
at all between--
>> Nope.
>> No?
>> Listen...
I'm gonna be honest
with you guys.
>> Now she's gonna be honest.
All right, what's up?
>> I don't know Hundra.
>> You don't know Hundra?
>> What do you mean
you don't know Hundra?
>> I've only been talking to her
for about, like, four weeks.
>> So you mean
the whole nine-months thing
isn't actually true?
>> It's not true, no.
>> So you guys only
started talking four weeks ago?
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
>> See, but you still
have been talking to her?
>> Okay, um...
Well, obviously,
she contacted the show.
>> Right.
>> But it's just, like--
It's not true.
Don't know Hundra.
Don't like her at all like that.
>> Wait.
Melanie knew Hundra?
>> Yeah.
>> So Melanie knows
that this is all fake too?
Either you guys are, like,
Academy Award-winning actors or,
like--
'Cause you guys are--
>> Okay, so hold on.
So you and Melanie
are for real ex-girlfriends?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> That's true.
>> And a month ago, Hundra
contacted you guys
and said, "Hey, I want to get
on this show 'Catfish.'"
>> I don't know.
I don't know
if it was like that.
I have no idea.
>> That's bull[bleep].
There's got to be some reason
you're involved in this.
Was it because you thought
you could get on the show?
Why would you
risk your reputation
just to help some girl
you don't know?
>> If Melanie wanted to help
her, then...
I love her, so I'm gonna help.
>> So Melanie asked you to help
her and encouraged
you to get involved?
>> Well, yeah.
She needs help,
I'm gonna help her, okay?
I'm down. I'm riding.
>> Help her what, though?
>> Is Hundra even lesbian?
Does she even like girls?
>> I have no idea, but the way
she's trying to make me look
out there was like--
I'm just trying
to turn straight girls out.
No, that's not how--
You don't portray a lesbian
that way.
I don't want to be made to look
on TV like I'm that person.
>> I'm still not sure
I understand the situation.
Why are we here?
>> I could be with my daughter
on Father's Day right now.
Does Hundra know
that we know this right
now that you told us?
>> Nope.
>> So Hundra thinks
that we believe her?
>> Yeah.
>> Piece of [bleep].
I'm pretty [bleep] mad.
There's really no point
in us being here.
I'm [bleep] out, for sure.
[bleep] idiot.
Let's go get Hundra.
I'm about to go crazy
on this little woman, man.
>> All right. "Hey, ladies,
would love to chat."
>> It was all, like,
a plot just to get on TV.
>> Swear to God,
I'm mad as [bleep].
>> All right.
>> Sorry.
>> * You know how to get in
[car door closes]
>> I didn't sign up here
to come help some stupid little
[bleep] girls find a little 15--
>> I know.
>> Not even minutes--
15 seconds of [bleep] fame.
>> I feel like a snitch now.
>> What if Melanie was doing
some stupid [bleep] and--
Right.
The only person
who could manipulate Geralyn
into doing this is Melanie,
'cause she's got her wrapped
around her finger.
>> Yes.
>> I feel like she's still not
giving us the whole truth,
because she's trying
to protect Melanie.
>> I did it for love.
That's it.
>> I am curious to just
sort of see if we can--
>> Find out why they did it.
>> Just like get a straight
story that makes sense.
>> Yeah.
Is this them pulling up?
>> Did you come with Hundra?
>> No.
>> No.
Oh, here she is.
>> Hi.
>> So what's up?
>> Really?
So you just steal pictures
and talk to people?
I'm talking to you.
>> I can hear you.
>> So speak.
Like, you think that's cool?
>> It's over, yo.
>> What's over?
What's over?
>> This whole thing is over.
>> What do you mean?
>> She spilled the beans.
Y'all playing us.
Hundra, you want
to tell us something?
You knew them already, huh?
>> So that was it?
You just wanted to come out?
You had to have at least
had a reason to want
to be on television.
Why does the world
need to know that you're gay?
>> When you're in a culture
that hates
what you have to become,
it's not that easy.
So, yeah, in a way, the world
should give a [bleep].
I don't want
to keep hiding myself.
>> But what's the world
gonna take away from this?
Right now you're setting
a really bad example for people.
>> How?
>> Because you lied,
and you also speak on gays...
like they have a disease.
>> I feel like I can call
them certain names
because I've been in their world
for a while.
>> On paper, like,
I think your crusade to liberate
Haitian women across the nation
is, like, beautiful, and,
like, there are very real ways
that one could do that.
And this is the worst way
to do it.
This is incredibly selfish.
>> 'Cause you don't look
like a hero.
>> Okay, well, this is done.
>> Yeah.
Thank you.
So why are you smiling?
What's funny?
>> It's not funny.
It's just [bleep] up.
It is.
>> And why did you go along
with this?
What do you have invested
in her?
>> Sucker.
You are a sucker.
You.
Corny.
You are corny.
>> So a random girl just hits
you up on the Internet and says,
like, "Hey, will you help me
lie on national television?"
You're like, "Sure."
>> Well, it wasn't like that.
I mean,
she wasn't a random girl.
I mean, we were friends.
>> I just don't see
you and Hundra being friends.
I don't get that pairing.
>> No, but we are, though.
I mean, I wouldn't say we're,
like, the best of friends.
I'm like, "Oh..."
Now we're not friends.
I regret all of it.
You're corny.
You're not a hero.
You are a shameful citizen.
Like...
And she runs away
from her problems.
Are you kidding me?
You know what the [bleep]
I had to do to get here?
What a coward, dude.
You're a coward, man.
>> Why wouldn't you say,
like, "Hey, Hundra,
we want to help you,
but I'm not about to make
my [bleep] ex-girlfriend look
like an ass[bleep]."
When we came up here yesterday,
she made it sound like Geralyn
was just trying to, like,
put a notch on her belt and,
like, convert a straight girl.
>> Oh, my God.
>> Is she blackmailing you?
Like, what--
Why would you go through
with this?
>> I don't know.
>> You did it for her.
>> Yeah, pretty much.
>> Well, the lesson here,
obviously, is if you're gonna
get involved in something,
you got to, like,
think about what that means.
>> Yeah.
>> Right.
>> I mean, for both of you--
like, you know,
you guys put yourselves
in a [bleep] situation and,
like, risked your reputation.
>> For the whole world to see.
>> Yeah.
>> Wow.
>> Yeah.
>> It sucks.
I just want to apologize.
I'm sorry.
>> All right.
Well, good luck with everything.
>> Hundra, man...
the mastermind.
Who would have [bleep] thunk?
>> Never did I think--
>> This is the conclusion.
>> I don't even know
what to think.
>> This episode of
Catfish: the TV Show"
continues now.
Well, I'm back in my hotel
room...
trying to sort of just, like...
process everything
that's been going--
[laughs]
Everything that went down.
It's definitely upsetting.
I don't like...
being made
to look like a fool.
[sighs]
I just don't know
what's up with Hundra.
I can't figure it out.
Well, speak of the devil.
I just got a text message
from Hundra, saying
that she's at my hotel.
"Can I talk to you, only you?"
Okay.
Be curious to see
what she has to say.
Let's go talk to Hundra.
Hey.
How you doing?
You want to talk about it?
So I was hoping
we'd get a chance to talk,
'cause, obviously, things got
a little crazy at the end there.
>> Well, me personally,
I'm not gonna
apologize for anything.
I'm really not,
because regardless
how you felt about how I did it,
I wanted my coming out to be
something "rememorable" for me.
>> I don't think
this is going to get you further
with the friends and family
that you care about.
They're now going
to be so surprised that this
happened that they're not even
going to focus on the fact
that you're gay.
It's going to just be
like, "Well, why'd you lie?
Why'd you have to go on TV?"
>> Not necessarily.
>> But isn't this gonna
be worse?
>> For my mom?
>> Yeah.
Now friends and family--they're
all gonna hear about this.
If you wanted people to know
you were gay, there were, like,
a lot of little things you
could have tried before this.
That's all.
>> There was, but--
>> I think your intentions,
in terms of creating an episode
of a show
that addresses homosexuality--
like, that is incredibly
important.
>> * Will we make it?*
>> But I feel like that's going
to get dwarfed
by this [bleep]-up craziness
of all this.
>> Maybe I do have a different
mind-set of everybody else,
but everybody's different.
>> I really do encourage
you to have a discussion
with your family
before this TV show comes out,
just so that they're not totally
blindsided by it,
but that's up to you.
And with that I will just say
good-bye.
>> Okay.
>> Good luck.
>> Thank you.
>> * Got me angry
* So I
* Called you names
*
* Now it's gone *
[line trilling]
>> Nev, what up, dude?
>> Yo.
What's good?
>> Chillin', chillin'.
Just on tour right now.
>> Nice.
So, first, we're gonna talk
to Geralyn.
>> Right, right.
>> And I think Melanie
might actually be there.
>> Oh, sick. All right, cool.
>> All right, you ready?
I'll add Geralyn.
Hey-o.
>> Hey.
>> Hey.
What's been the aftermath
with this whole crazy situation?
>> I think that thing
with her was just so weird,
'cause it was
like it didn't really seem
that there was anything
in it for you guys.
>> Why do you think she
would go through with all this?
All right, so, aside
from all of that,
I see that you guys
are hanging out,
but, like, has any--
Oh, okay. Oh.
[girls laugh]
I'm glad that you're still
friends and that you made it
through this weird thing
together.
>> Again, I'm sorry.
>> Yeah, I'm sorry.
>> I am so sorry, you guys.
>> All right, ladies,
you guys be good, okay?
We'll speak to you soon.
>> All right.
>> Bye.
>> Bye.
[line trilling]
>> Hey, Hundra.
How you doing?
>> I'm fine.
>> Have you now
told your friends and family
that you're exploring
your sexuality?
>> I've been talking to girls,
and my friends have been out on
dates with me and other girls,
so I'm just testing it out,
because, you know, I came out.
>> How do you feel
about how you chose to come out?
>> I'm not happy
about how I went about with it,
'cause people that know me--
they're gonna know that,
"Hundra's not that type of
person.
Like, why would she go that far
just to get, whatever,
attention?"
>> Well, and you wasted our
time.
>> I mean, I wasn't necessarily
wasting time,
because everybody still
got something out of it.
You're still a rapper that's
about to be on a television show
because of whatever I came up
with.
>> Oh, don't even--
>> If you want an apology
for wasting your time--
I don't feel bad, because I feel
as though I'm a person
that got you to my attention.
>> But the way you did it
by lying and disrespecting
your community--
I just feel like this would have
been the perfect opportunity
to learn from it and be like,
"Oh, [bleep].
I don't want to be like this."
>> I'm not gonna go
and reverse my words
and say, "I regret how I went
about it with myself,"
'cause there's nothing
that I can take back.
>> Okay.
>> It's just that.
>> I guess that's it.
I guess, you know--
>> Okay.
>> Bye for now.
>> Later.
>> Okay.
She hasn't changed much.
>> No comment.
[both laugh]
>> All right, later, Kells.
>> Later, guys.
>> Peace.
>> "She could be the one for me.
I've even asked her
to come live with me."
>> I went to her house.
Her uncle answered,
and he told me no one
by that name lived there.
>> "18-year-old takes police
on stolen-vehicle chase."
She could have a little bit
of a record.
If I were in your shoes,
I would be freaking out.
>> Somebody's looking.
>> What the hell is going on?
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