Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 4, Episode 17 - Andria & David - full transcript

>> Can you tell I'm nervous?

I know, like,

what I'm about to face,

but I still don't.

>> This is your moment

to finally get all the answers

after ten years of not knowing.

>> Ten long years.

>> Yeah, let's do it.

[suspenseful music]

*



[knock at door]

*

[knock at door]

*

This guy is torturing her.

This week, Max had to go back

to California to film

his awesome movie

coming out, We Are Your Friends.

I'm out here on the road.

Max is gonna meet up

with us tomorrow,

but to get things started, we're

gonna just video chat him in.



Hello.

Wow, Max,

you got a real director's chair.

>> Action!

I feel terrible

that I can't be there,

and I feel even worse

that everyone's gonna

have to be subjected

to your bad camera work.

>> It's not so bad, actually.

No, but look.

I got an email here,

and the subject

is "12 going on 21."

"Dear Nev and Max,

my name is Andria.

I'm 21 years old,

and I live in St. Louis,

Missouri.

I've been in an

on-and-off relationship

for almost ten years

with a guy named David Walker

from Chicago, Illinois."

Wait.

This is crazy if this

is what I think it is--

if they've been talking

for ten years and never met.

She was in St. Louis.

He was in Chicago.

>> That is not far at all.

>> She said, "I met him

when I was in middle school

on a social media

website called Bebo."

>> * I came to see the future

>> "We were both young

at the time.

I had just gotten

my first cell phone,

so I gave David my number."

>> * I understand you now

>> "We immediately hit it off,

and I couldn't

get enough of him."

>> * I understand you now

>> "David is a few years older

than me, so it was exciting

to have an older guy

calling me at that time.

We grew closer and developed

stronger feelings

for one another."

>> * I understand you now

* Yes, I do

* I understand you now

* Yes, I do

* I understand you now

>> "I grew so attached to him

because he was always someone

I could go to.

We became boyfriend

and girlfriend,

but the excuses and failed

attempts at meeting each other

had built up too much.

I've reached my breaking point."

And this is all caps.

"I really need you guys.

Please, help me find out

who this man is."

>> Wow.

>> This is crazy, and they met

when they were really young.

This may be

the longest relationship

we've ever had on the show.

I think we should get Andria

on the phone.

>> Get her on the horn.

>> Here we go.

[phone line trilling]

>> Hey.

>> Hey.

So we just read your email.

Pretty intense.

Tell us a little bit

about yourself.

>> I'm a preschool teacher.

I teach the ages of two to six.

>> And so you met this guy

when you were how old?

Like, at 12 or 11?

>> Yep, pretty much.

I was in sixth grade.

He was older, and that's

what made it exciting.

That's what made it fun.

>> For the last ten years,

it's been almost all the time.

>> Mm-hmm. All the time.

Always texting,

always talking on the phone.

When we're texting or when

we're on the phone, like,

nothing else around me matters.

Basically grew up together.

>> He's already a part

of your entire history.

>> Yeah, basically.

He is my history.

>> Yeah.

>> He had been there for me

since forever,

if I was going through stuff

with family or personal issues.

Like, I actually

had a miscarriage last year,

and he was there for me

through that.

>> Wow, and this guy's helped

you through all of that?

>> Yeah, he's always there.

I always can call on him.

I mean, he's not gonna

never just ignore me.

He knows everything.

>> Does he consider you

his girlfriend?

>> Yeah, he does, and he talks

about getting married

and starting a family

and everything.

He talks about it all,

but he got to get here first.

>> And when you ask him

to video chat, what does he say?

>> Nope, he doesn't have

a smart phone,

and he's just not gonna do it.

It's always an excuse.

I had threatened, "I'm just

gonna put you on Catfish."

I'm hopeful

that he is who he say he is,

but it's kind of like,

"Tell me the truth,

so I can move on."

I need some help.

>> And we're the only guys

who can do it.

>> So that's what we're

gonna do.

>> Yay.

>> Let's all met in St. Louis

tomorrow,

and we'll get this catfish

on the line,

and we'll reel him in.

>> All right, let's get him in.

>> Reel him in.

>> Bye, guys.

Let's go.

Off to St. Louis.

>> * Say it like you mean it

* Say it like you do

* She like the way it move

>> Here we are.

*

Hello.

>> both: Hey.

>> Hi. How are you?

>> Hi. All right.

>> Nice to meet you.

>> You too.

I can't believe y'all here.

>> Let's get inside.

>> We're shivering

with excitement.

>> Oh, my God,

did you just move in?

>> Yeah.

>> Is this your first place?

>> Mm-hmm, yeah.

>> Wow. Congratulations.

>> Thank you.

>> You need some decor.

We'll get there.

>> I do.

[laughter]

>> [grunts]

>> You play too much.

>> All right, cool.

>> Let's turn back the clock.

>> Yeah.

You're 12.

You're talking to this guy,

David.

>> It was exciting.

You kind of have to understand,

this is the first person

I told I love.

I gave all of my time

and everything to this person,

and even now, I still would.

No matter what, I always

will have him to lean on.

>> Were there any situations

where you, like,

were really heartbroken?

>> He was supposed

to be here for Christmas.

When he was on his way here, he

got pulled over by the police,

and they arrested him

for contraband in his car.

Now, he's on house arrest.

>> That's so weird.

>> I stopped going to school.

He was actually supposed

to come get me,

and we were supposed

to start this life.

>> When was this?

We missed that.

>> This--it was this semester.

>> Just this last semester?

>> Mm-hmm, just spring.

>> He said, "I want you

to come to Chicago."

>> He's coming down here

to get me.

>> So you're not in school

right now.

>> Mm-mm, no.

>> Because of him?

>> Yeah.

>> But why are you

still giving this guy your--

your time and your love?

>> It's just hard

to get rid of it and just act

like it never happened.

I can't just lock it up

in a cage.

I want it.

>> Al right.

Well, I'm so curious.

Do you--what photos do you have

of this person?

All right, so these--this is

a picture of when he first

sent you pictures in an email.

>> Mm-hmm.

>> And I can see why you

thought, like,

"This is a really cute guy.

I'm into him."

Then?

>> I told him,

"I'm gonna put you on Catfish,"

and then he said,

"You want to Skype, or you

want me to send pictures?"

He was like, "I'm Geo.

I'm a female.

I'm sorry that I hurt you."

>> What?

He texted you, and it was these?

Okay, so it was this one...

>> Yeah.

>> Which is...

>> Wow.

>> Pretty clearly a woman

smoking, and then

this weird photo.

>> That's really disturbing.

>> It looks like

the same person.

>> Yeah.

>> I said, "If you gonna

send me pictures, I want

you to send me a picture

with my name on it."

>> So David sent you this,

saying, "Sorry, Andria."

What's this?

>> He just randomly

sent me that.

>> So randomly, you also got

a picture of an

Illinois driver's license...

>> Wow.

>> Of the girl.

So this seems pretty legit.

>> And with a name

and an address.

>> Christina [bleep].

>> And the letters he sent

me has that address on there,

but that's supposedly

his mom's address.

>> Date of birth--

>> Wait. He sent you letters?

>> Mm-hmm.

>> What did it say?

>> It's over there, actually,

if you want to read it.

>> Yeah, I want to see it.

>> Okay.

>> Whoa.

"What's up?

I miss you like crazy.

I haven't heard you tell me

you love me in so long

or that you missed me.

I haven't felt it, neither.

I just want to be wanted

or loved, and I hate

how you take that away.

Just got to be the best man

that I can be for you,

but I'm being real."

Wow, that's, like, a--I mean,

a really passionate love letter.

What did you think

when you read that?

>> To be honest, I was kind of

surprised that he even sent it.

>> This is--oh,

is there something in here?

>> Yeah, it's the same thing.

>> Oh, "I love you, baby.

I wish I was next to you,

on top of you, [bleep] of you."

Oh, wow.

>> What is that?

>> Just--is that an outline of--

>> It's hard to even--

>> Did he just lay it down

on a table

and, like, trace it?

Is that what that is?

>> That looks like

what that's supposed to be.

>> I know, right?

All right.

But all kidding aside...

>> Uh-huh?

>> We've entered

into a whole new level

of catfish correspondence here.

So this is interesting.

And it's the same address.

>> No self-respecting catfish

puts their return address

on an envelope.

>> Yeah.

>> This person wants

to be found.

>> I don't feel like I have

been talking to a woman.

The person I've been

talking to sounds like a dude.

Do you want to hear

the voice mails?

>> Sure.

>> Yeah.

Let's hear this voice mail.

>> Wow.

Is he always so emotional?

>> Mm-hmm.

>> I think that that could be

a woman.

We don't know anything

for sure right now,

and we're gonna

do some investigating

and find things out, but I think

you got to start making space

for the possibility

that this could be that woman.

>> He couldn't do that to me.

You know?

>> We're gonna figure this out.

All right?

>> Okay. Yep.

>> both: All right.

>> We'll talk to you

in a little bit.

>> Okay, I'll see you.

>> Good night.

>> This is a serious story.

Oh, man.

When you see it and you feel her

wanting this relationship so bad

and not being able to let go

of it, like, it really

comes through.

>> But like,

it's probably that woman.

I mean,

she sent her a driver's license.

>> Well, if nothing, that proves

that that person's at least

a part of the story.

Still a lot of questions

to get answers to.

>> Did you hear a knock

at the door?

>> I did hear a knock

at the door.

>> I wasn't expecting guests.

Let me just freshen up.

>> The parlor, here.

>> Hello?

Oh...all right.

We got work to do.

This is yours.

>> All right. Recap.

>> Andria met a guy named David

Walker she's been dreaming of

and in love

with the last ten years.

>> He won't Skype or video chat.

Then, a few months ago,

David says,

"You should drop out of school

and come live with me."

David never shows up.

She's so annoyed

and upset that she says,

"I'm gonna bring you on Catfish.

We're gonna get to the bottom

of it," at which point,

he freaks out

and says, "No, no, no, no.

Don't do that,"

and sends her pictures,

and he says,

"This is who I really am,

a woman named Christina."

>> And a photo holding up a

piece of paper that says,

"Sorry, Andria."

>> When we listened to the voice

mail that David left her,

we both agreed that it could be

a woman's voice.

>> Definitely.

>> So that leaves us

with a strong hunch

that David is probably

this woman,

Christina, from Chicago.

>> I mean,

I think it's more than a hunch.

She has to let go of the fantasy

that she's been

living for the last ten years.

This guy is torturing her.

So here's what we got.

Here's the pictures

of Christina.

>> What the [bleep]?

That is really freaky.

>> I bet you

she works at a hospital.

>> She could be a nurse.

>> Yeah.

I mean, that's what's crazy.

This is the address.

>> There it all is.

>> And the address

on the driver's license

matches the return address

that they put on the letter.

>> Correct. This is pretty

conclusive evidence.

>> I agree.

>> But all right.

>> All right, so she's got

David Walker's phone number.

First thing's first.

Let's search

David Walker's cell phone number

and see what we get.

>> Not much.

>> Nothing, really.

All right, let's run this email

that Andria's been talking to.

Geostain?

>> Geostain.

>> Geostain.

>> What do we got?

Possible match.

>> Oh, boy.

>> "Gender: female."

>> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Open link.

>> both: Whoa!

>> We got it.

>> Got it.

Look, pictures. Oh!

This is the picture she sent.

>> That's--yeah, we found her.

That's Christina.

>> "I leave stains in life.

If you met me, you met me real."

>> #realRealizingreal.

The key word is "real,"

which is ironic.

>> Yikes.

So now, what do we do, Max?

Because I think we've proven

that Christina is Geostain,

and Geostain is David.

>> And David is Christina.

>> So I mean, I--

>> Case closed.

>> Right, but now, we can say

to Andria, "There is no David."

>> "This is who you've been

talking to within 98%

certainty."

>> Or more.

Andria has poured her heart

out for the past ten years

to this person.

Christina may not have any real

regard for her feelings.

If she really cared for her,

why would she put her

through this for ten years?

Maybe she doesn't.

That could be the most

heartbreaking part of all.

We've got to present

all of this to Andria,

and she's got to accept it

and come to grips with it.

>> Come to grips with it.

>> It's gonna be a tough blow.

>> Hi, Andria?

>> Hey, Andria.

Where are you?

>> All right, great.

See you in a second.

>> Bye.

>> For the last ten years,

she's done a pretty good job

of convincing herself

that somehow this is

all gonna work out

and everything's gonna be okay.

>> But it's not.

>> But it's not.

>> Nope.

>> And today,

she's got to face the music.

>> This is like finding out

the person you've been married

to for the last ten years

is not who they said they were.

>> It's gonna be tough.

Oh, you brought a friend.

>> How do you guys

know each other?

>> We met in middle school,

sixth grade.

>> For the past ten years,

you've been an eyewitness

to everything

that David put Andria though.

>> Like, some nights,

when we would try to go out

and go have fun,

David would ruin it.

>> Yeah, he's just gonna

blow my phone up, nonstop.

I can wake up to,

like, 25 to 30,

like, missed calls.

>> Wow.

>> 25 to 30?

>> I have before.

>> That's--that's really

intense.

>> Yep, with a voice mail

after every phone call.

>> What about the most

recent photos of the girl?

>> I don't think

it's that person.

>> You saw those, right?

>> Yes, but I don't think

it's that person either.

>> Why--what?

>> Because of the voice.

>> Right.

You've talked to David?

>> Yes.

>> Right.

>> Multiple times.

And there was one time

I tried to have a heart-to-heart

to get David to really come,

but David flipped it

and put it on her.

I just want her to get

her answers and her closure--

whatever she needs.

And I really

want her to move on.

>> Max and I did our sort

of investigation,

and we found some things

that are pretty significant that

we want to talk about with you,

and if it's okay,

Camille can stay,

and we can go over this

together.

>> Okay.

>> Do it as a group.

>> Let's do it.

>> You've been through a lot

the last ten years.

You're ready to move on.

I think we may have

some answers for you

that might help you do that.

So a few years ago,

you got an email from Geostain.

>> So we did a Google search...

>> Right.

>> For Geostain.

>> And the first thing that

comes up is a Facebook page.

[somber music]

*

There are pictures here

of the same girl in the pictures

that David texted you.

*

>> Geo is Christina [bleep].

*

>> And Christina [bleep]

is David.

*

>> [stammers]

Like...

like, I don't even know how to--

How do you,

like, put words to that?

>> I think it's time to really

start accepting that this guy,

who even sent you pictures of

a woman and said, "This is me.

I'm Geo," that's who that is.

*

>> It's just frustrating.

*

I never, like,

told lies or nothing.

*

I just don't get it.

Don't make sense.

>> I do believe that she

probably means a lot of what

she says, but she definitely

hasn't been honest with you.

>> * With my love

* I can't win *

*

* Can't let him go *

* Can't let him go *

* Can't let him go *

*

>> I mean,

I know this is a shock.

Meeting this person might be

something you should do.

>> I also don't think

you're gonna believe it

until you get a confession.

>> It just don't make--

I just don't get it.

It just never crossed my mind.

>> I could call and tell her

we know what's up.

Are you okay with that?

>> You're shell-shocked.

>> Yeah.

>> I'm cool with that.

>> Okay, we'll just

do this once and for all.

>> Let's take a break

for a second.

>> Yeah, let's just take--

let's just take a minute.

[somber music]

*

[phone line trilling]

*

>> Yeah, hi.

Who am I speaking with?

Oh, yeah.

This is Nev from the show,

Catfish.

>> I'm shivering.

>> You probably know

why I'm calling.

I'm here with Andria.

Now, we're pretty confident that

you're Christina, aka David.

She'd like to get a chance

to finally meet the person

she's been talking to.

>> As you can imagine,

she's taking it pretty hard.

She's definitely upset

and confused,

but still wants to meet you.

>> Max, it's been ten years.

Like--

>> And we knew

that it was something off.

Like, we knew,

and we tried to rule out

all the possibilities,

and being a woman was one.

Like, we were like, "No,

it's--it can't be a girl."

>> I don't like it.

>> You guys have been talking

since you were teenagers,

and that's not something

that just goes away.

Like,

she wants to meet the person

that she's been

talking to all these years.

>> But let me know soon,

because you know,

she's been waiting ten years,

and I don't really think

she deserves to have

to wait that much longer.

All right, so I'll look forward

to hearing back from you soon,

okay?

All right, bye.

>> All right, let's go back in.

*

>> You all right?

>> Yep.

>> I did just get off the phone

with Geo.

I explained

that we're here with you.

We just showed you everything

we know.

>> Mm-hmm.

>> And basically, all of that

was just me getting to,

"So do you think

we can come and meet you?"

She didn't have an answer

for me.

She was sort of freaked out

by that idea,

which we already know,

because she spent

the last ten years avoiding it.

>> Right.

>> But she said she would think

about it and let me know.

But we do know where she lives.

>> Mm-hmm.

>> We don't need to wait

for her to say, "Thumbs up,"

to get on a plane and fly up

to Chicago tomorrow morning.

Whether she likes it or not,

I don't really think it matters.

>> No, I just need to be

at her front door.

>> Right.

>> Yeah, she owes you that much.

>> Right.

>> I just need to be there,

front and center.

Let's do it.

[suspenseful music]

*

>> The Windy City.

>> This is really weird.

Like, I have never been anywhere

but Texas and Atlanta.

[cell phone vibrates]

>> Max, check this for me?

I think I got a text message.

>> From David.

"I am willing to meet up

with Andria and you guys..."

>> Wow.

>> "But it won't be easy."

>> Have you really accepted

that this guy

you've been talking to

for ten years is actually Geo?

>> I've accepted that.

Like, I still have to see

her talk and move

at the same time.

>> This is your moment

to finally get all the answers

after ten years of not knowing.

>> I know, like,

what I'm about to face,

but I still don't know.

>> Let's do it.

*

>> Okay.

Here goes nothing.

[knocks on door]

*

Hello.

>> Hello. How you doing?

>> How you doing?

>> I'm good.

>> You want to come down?

Hmm.

Let's go.

Christina?

>> Christina.

How you doing?

>> I'm all right.

>> That's good.

>> How are you?

>> I'm all right.

>> Well, obviously,

this is a little awkward.

>> It is.

>> We've spent the last few days

with Andria,

hearing what happened

from 12 years old till now.

It's been ten years...

>> Right.

>> That you've been pretending

to be someone else.

>> Yeah.

>> A guy.

>> Yeah.

>> Kind of would like

to know your side of things.

>> It started off totally as

a joke.

A bet, really--$25 bet.

>> $25?

>> I was, like--

was in sixth grade or something,

like, 12, 13.

Just saw her.

And I don't know.

I just saw the picture

of her--a girl--a young girl.

I asked for her number

or whatever.

>> At that time,

were you attracted to girls?

Was it a romantic--

>> Yeah, I've been all--

I've been--all my whole life,

I've been attracted to females.

>> Okay.

>> Do you have kind

of a full concept

of what she's been

through on her side?

>> I'm sure she's been

through a lot.

>> Yeah, I mean, you put her

through a lot of hoops.

>> Yeah, a whole lot.

>> She keeps on jumping through.

>> I know.

>> You told her that you had

some trouble with the law.

>> Is that why you've been

on house arrest?

>> My house arrest?

I probably did tell you

I was on house arrest.

>> Yeah, you told me a lot.

>> She's now taken a semester

off of school to be with you

because she believed

that you were in love with her.

But you didn't mean that?

>> Basically.

>> Why not just pull the plug

on it?

>> She was there for me.

>> Well, what was

this relationship for you?

>> I mean, it was a bond.

That's it, that's all.

>> It was a what?

>> A bond.

That's it, really.

It was just somebody that I

could just get away and talk to.

That's all.

'Cause I don't really,

you know, have friends much.

>> But it was something

for so long, though.

I mean, now, you're just saying,

like, it was just a friendship

and you was just talking to me

when you couldn't talk

to nobody else.

We talked every day, all day.

>> But I mean, on my end,

she don't know me.

I'm not--I mean, like I just

said, it was a bond.

>> I been knowing you

for this long.

What do you mean?

That don't even make no sense.

>> I didn't take it

to the heart.

Even us telling each other

that we love each other,

all that, it wasn't--

>> You never meant that?

>> I mean, I meant that.

As a human being,

I wouldn't want nothing

to happen to you,

but I'm not in love with you.

So I'll leave it alone.

>> You never left it alone.

Calling, texting,

crying on the voice mail.

>> It just don't make sense

to me.

It don't.

Because you could cry

until you fell asleep

if I didn't answer the phone,

or you would tell me you love me

until I'm blue in the face.

Why with me for ten years?

I'm just--

>> Because I didn't have

that bond with nobody else

for ten years.

Now, I didn't have--

I don't have no one else

that I call a friend.

If I was, like, really--

you know, really wanted you,

I would've told you,

"This is me,

and I'm in love with you,

and this is who--"

I didn't feel that way.

I--you know what I'm saying?

I'm being real and being honest.

>> I don't buy it. I don't--

>> I know it's messed up.

>> Well, I don't buy that.

That's so heartless.

You were just so needy,

and you don't have anyone else

to talk to,

and you don't care

about her feelings

or how you're affecting

her or [bleep] her over

or wasting her life because

you're like a little baby

and need to cry--

you need to cry to her?

>> I care about her feelings.

>> Not really.

Come on, man.

This is like getting in a fight

with someone in kindergarten.

You're like,

"I-I was never friends

with you anyway."

>> No.

>> Yeah.

It feels like that immature.

Like, "When I told you

I loved you?

That was fake."

I saw the letter.

>> Yeah, I have a letter

she wrote me too.

>> That thing was--that thing

was written with passion.

You can't fake that.

>> [laughs]

I was about to say thank you,

'cause I mean, I'm telling you,

like--

>> That was fake.

That was a fake love letter?

>> I mean, yeah, but--

>> I don't believe that.

>> Well, it's not our--

>> No, it's not our place.

But I'm just saying,

I know that's not true.

>> Well, I mean,

but that's the point.

It wasn't even for me to believe

or y'all to believe.

It was written

for her to actually believe.

She believed it at that moment.

>> Because you wanted to make

sure she stayed dedicated

to being your close friend.

>> Basically.

>> I just feel like it's full

of [bleep].

>> Don't sit up here

and get mad at me over something

that you did also.

She lied to me too.

>> When did I lie?

>> At first, you was telling me

you was another female...

>> No, I wasn't. You said--

>> With blond hair, a white

girl.

>> A white girl?

>> So what you're saying--when

you first met Andria, you

thought she looked like

something else?

>> Yeah, she was sending me

pictures of another female.

>> I was in sixth grade.

How I'm even fixing to know

to make up somebody's picture

and put it up there?

That don't even make no sense.

>> The same reason

how I'm able to do it.

>> Okay, that was you.

That ain't me.

>> Guys, it's hard to know

what you're telling the truth

about and what you're not

telling the truth about,

because you kept...

>> Not really if you just--

>> You kept some big, big lies

going for ten years.

>> At the end of the day,

there's certain things that I

was telling her the truth,

and there's certain things that

I wasn't telling her the truth.

That's all.

>> Well, look.

It's the end of a very long,

played-out game for both of you.

So maybe we talk more tomorrow,

but--

>> I don't know.

I don't think it's no reason to.

>> Well, let's just--we'll play

it by ear, see how we feel.

>> All right.

>> See ya.

*

>> Now we know who it is.

We got to talk

about something else.

Why have you been in

this relationship for ten years?

*

[knock at door]

>> all: Hey.

>> What's up?

>> How are you?

>> How'd you sleep?

>> Good.

>> You stayed in this

relationship a very long time.

>> Mm-hmm.

>> I don't know that

there's, you know, anything good

that can come from you guys

staying in touch anymore.

Like--

>> Yeah, I just feel like I--

now, it's more of,

like, a good-bye.

>> All right,

let's call Christina

and see where she is at.

[phone line trilling]

>> Yeah, hey, Christina.

>> Hey, it's Nev, good morning.

Maybe today,

we can all sit down and talk

a little bit more calmly

and figure some things out.

>> Yeah, you know what

I'm saying?

Like...

>> I--

>> Let's just meet up and end

things on, you know, good terms.

>> That's just the kind of stuff

that just makes me mad

all over again.

>> I mean,

she seems to have lied a lot,

but if you were also

faking your picture,

if there's any validity

to the story

that Christina's telling,

then we got to know that

because that needs

to be represented.

>> Is any of that true about her

thinking you were someone else?

>> No, only 'cause I just

made the profile page

to find that person on MySpace,

and that's when they did not

accept me as a friend.

>> So you made a MySpace profile

of someone else...

>> Yeah.

>> To try and friend

David, 'cause you didn't want

him to know it was you.

>> To friend David.

And they didn't accept me.

Mm-hmm, and they didn't accept

me as the friend or anything.

>> Right.

Mm-hmm.

No, it was my--it was my name.

I don't know.

>> It would make sense to me

that you would find

a David Walker profile,

and because David told you

he never had social media,

you would create a fake profile

to befriend him.

>> With a fake name.

>> Right.

>> And have you kept

that profile up?

>> Nope, that profile is not up.

>> And did you ever say to her,

"Hey, I've been

lying to you about my pictures"?

>> Yeah, that's when I had

stopped the MySpace page.

It was not that far along from

when we had first met.

>> So when she's saying that she

thought you were someone else

for the first eight years.

>> That was that MySpace.

It has not--I got emails.

Like, it has not--

it was a long time ago

when I first made

that MySpace page.

>> For the last nine years,

have you been sending

her pictures of you?

>> Mm-hmm.

Of the--

>> Of you?

>> Yes.

>> So we are completely

confused by this,

and to be perfectly honest,

it doesn't really matter.

>> This tit for tat,

you know, "You lied.

I lied." Like--

>> It's really annoying.

>> You haven't been clear

or communicating with each other

in any kind

of functional, honest way

from the very beginning, so I

feel like all the more reason

why today should be some kind

of an ending.

So let's text her, then.

Let's go downstairs.

There's a room

we can use to meet with her.

>> Okay.

>> Let's see if we can get

to the bottom of this

decade-long catfish mystery.

>> This episode of Catfish:

The TV Show continues now.

>> I do think there's something

for you to learn from this,

which is that a lot of this has

been your responsibility also.

Like, you played along

in the relationship.

You put up with stuff too long.

>> Right.

>> Let's go in there and see

how it goes.

Where is she?

[knocks on door]

>> All right, so look.

Yesterday was not the best way

to sort of first meet

someone that you've been

talking to for this long,

but there's no reason

that you two can't acknowledge

what this is, what it's been,

and hopefully, move forward

in positive new directions.

>> I do want to start off

by saying that I did have

some fault in all these years.

I don't want you to feel

like I just came at you

and just was stepping all

over you, 'cause that ain't--

that's not what I came down here

for at all.

I did want to meet you because

I've given you most of my life.

It's been a long time.

>> First of all,

I'm gonna say I'm sorry.

I apologize for--

you know what I'm saying?

I was just bogus.

But I don't accept your apology,

but, yeah, okay.

>> Why don't you

accept my apology?

>> Because, like, you

don't even know what you did.

How can you apologize

for something that you

don't even know what you did?

You gonna point fingers at me?

Point one back at yourself.

Like, if I'm being real

with you, be real with me, man.

If I'm apologizing

and telling you I was wrong,

you should do the same thing,

especially when

you know you was wrong and know

your issues and the problems

and the situations

we was in or whatever, man,

and learn from your mistakes,

for real, 'cause,

like, you was bogus.

I was too.

>> Okay. I don't--I--

>> Say it.

>> I just--I--

it's just the same thing

like it has been all this time.

>> You want the apology

to be your way.

You want everything

to be your way, but it's not.

You know what I'm saying?

I'm just gonna sit here

and leave it at that.

I apologize, man.

That's it, that's all.

>> It just seemed like it all

started off on the wrong foot.

From--she got a different story.

I got a different story.

>> You guys are both to blame

for staying in this thing

for ten years.

>> Yeah, but we weren't telling

each other we love each other.

>> You did send that letter.

>> Yeah.

>> You took the time to really

write a long love letter.

>> Yeah, 'cause she asked me to.

>> Suggests that maybe--

>> She asked me to.

She was like, "Can you

write back to my letter?"

>> You were just pretending?

Just totally pretending?

>> I was just pretending.

>> That is pretty messed up.

>> It is.

>> You guys are not gonna agree

on how you got to this point.

>> No, we're not.

>> I mean, at the end of

the day, we still was together

for this long of a time.

>> Right, but--right.

But for Christina,

you were not together.

>> Yeah, right.

>> And so...

>> We was just friends.

>> She's been looking

at this relationship

very differently

than you have for a long time.

>> Mm-hmm.

>> Now I think it's sad that you

say that you have no friends.

I mean, I'm just saying--

>> I never said

I didn't have no friends.

I said I didn't have no friends

that I have a bond with

that I had with her.

>> Yeah, but you--

>> You can replay it on me,

but that's exactly what I said.

>> Well, you said that she

was your only close friend,

and that everyone else

was an associate.

>> That I have a bond with.

>> All right.

I can see how talking to you

is frustrating.

>> Yeah.

>> Because these little

technicalities

change from day to day.

>> I never said I

don't have no friends at all.

>> That is the impression

you gave yesterday,

and that's why you stayed

in this relationship so long,

because she was the only

friend--whatever, bond--

person you had a bond with...

>> Okay.

>> That you had, and it was so

important to you to keep that.

You kept it going, and you said

things you didn't mean,

and you fake cried,

and all that stuff.

>> That was the impression,

not what I said.

>> No, That's what you

[bleep] said.

>> All right, you just said

that was my impression.

I mean, you're saying

this is what you--

>> I stand 100% behind Andria.

I think that you're full

of [bleep].

I seriously

doubted Andria, 'cause you made

us doubt her story.

But I think that you turn

everything around on people.

I think your story

changed a million times,

and you're just

twisting it all around to have

your version of the story

so you don't look as guilty

as you probably are.

>> Okay, but who cares?

Tell me that.

>> I don't think

that she deserves

someone like you in her life.

>> I don't want to be

in her life no more,

so you just wasted five minutes

of my life, so...

>> You've wasted

ten years of hers.

>> Wow.

>> That's hers--hers--Andria.

>> Sure, sure.

>> What's your name again?

>> Max.

>> Okay, right.

So go [bleep].

>> You just proved how you've

manipulated her for the last

ten years in the last, like,

three minutes with me.

>> I feel as if I didn't have

no relationship with her.

It was just a friendship.

I still stand by that.

>> I call BS on you.

>> Okay, that's your opinion.

>> Yep.

>> Let's go.

>> All right, well,

then let's go.

>> * Dusk is rolling in

* Ooh

* Dusk is rolling in

>> See ya.

>> * Ooh

* Dusk is rolling in

>> I did doubt you,

and after that, I get it.

I get it.

>> * It rolls, it rolls

>> I have been apologizing

to her for the longest time,

and it still was always

like a slap in the face.

>> It's okay.

>> It's done now.

[upbeat music]

*

[phone line trilling]

>> both: Hey!

>> Hey.

>> How you doing?

>> Good.

Start school again in August,

so...

>> Congratulations.

That's great.

I'm really happy to hear that.

>> Thanks, I'm gonna try.

>> Yeah.

What's going on with Geo?

>> She sent me this long text

message that week--

how sorry she was

about what she said on the show.

>> You actually kind

of texted me what she said.

>> Yep.

>> Basically said to you

that she does still

have strong feelings for you.

>> Yeah.

>> She does still want

to be with you.

>> Every morning, I've been

getting a text message.

I kind of replied,

like, "I'm still uncomfortable

with this situation."

I don't--there's not nothing

I can really say.

>> This is the same thing

that's basically been

happening for the last ten years

with this girl.

>> Mm-hmm.

>> You need to just,

like, shut it down, because...

>> Completely.

>> This girl plays mind games.

>> Nice seeing you.

>> Bye.

>> Nice to see you too, Andria.

[phone line trilling]

>> Hello.

>> Hey, what's up?

>> Hey, how you doing?

>> Now that you've had

a little bit of time to think

about everything that happened,

have you and Andria

had a chance to talk?

>> We haven't been in contact.

You know,

I really don't want to.

That's all.

Nothing hasn't really changed.

That's all.

I'm done with it.

>> Is there anything, like,

maybe that you feel like you

learned from all this?

>> Yeah.

Now, be more open.

>> Well, we just wanted to check

in and see how you were doing,

and I hope everything

goes well for you, and...

>> Same to you.

>> Maybe we'll see you soon.

>> All right.

Have a beautiful life.

>> All right, you too.

>> Good luck. Bye.

>> See ya.

>> Lies. More lies.

>> "We developed a bond

that was something

you dream about in the movies."

>> He wrote me

and was like, "I have a feeling

that you're somewhere

you're not supposed to be."

It made me feel like, "Oh,

my God, is she watching me?"

>> It's her.

They're all her.

She's keeping tabs on you.

>> I have no idea

who she could even be.

I don't know

what she's capable of.

>> The lies end now.

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