Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 3, Episode 6 - John & Kelsey - full transcript
John is ready to leave Detroit but one thing holds him back: Kelsey. The two have never spoken outside of online chats but John is sure she's the one. With such a big life change in front of John, can he include Kelsey in plans?
>> IT'S GONNA BE ON THE RIGHT
SIDE.
2-1-6.
>> IT'S THE NEXT ONE.
>> MAYBE I PASSED IT.
>> DID WE GET IT WRONG?
>> THERE IS A WEIRD EMPTY LOT.
>> I DON'T LIKE THIS.
>> "THERE IS NO HOUSE HERE."
>> IS SHE LOOKING THROUGH THE
FENCE OR SOMETHING?
LOVE MAKES YOU DUMB.
>> HOW'S YOUR BREAKFAST?
>> NUTRITIOUS AND DELICIOUS.
HOW ABOUT OUR TABLE MANNERS FOR
ALL THE KIDS WATCHING AT HOME,
MAX?
WE'VE GOT A MISSION.
>> YOU GOT THE CAT SIGNAL?
>> I THINK SO.
>> WHAT WOULD THE CATFISH SIGN
BE?
>> IT WOULD BE, LIKE, A HEART
WITH A QUESTION MARK IN THE
MIDDLE OR SOMETHING.
ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS A GOOD SUBJECT LINE.
"ONE STEP AWAY FROM GETTING THE
GIRL OF MY DREAMS OR LOSING HER
FOREVER."
>> HIGH STAKES.
I LIKE IT.
>> "I AM 27 AND LIVE IN DETROIT,
AND I HAVE WORKED IN I.T.
FOR OVER TEN YEARS."
>> INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.
>> MOSTLY YOU'RE JUST DEALING
WITH PEOPLE WHO CAN'T FIGURE OUT
HOW TO, LIKE, FIND THEIR EMAIL.
>> AND THEY'RE PANICKED AND
WILL JUST YELL AT YOU.
>> "I HAVE BEEN IN A
LONG-DISTANCE RELATIONSHIP WITH
A VERY BEAUTIFUL AND BRIGHT
GIRL, KELSEY, SINCE SEPTEMBER
OF LAST YEAR.
AND SHE IS A KINDRED SPIRIT.
KELSEY AND I MET ON A CHAT ROOM.
WE SOON MOVED OUR CONVERSATION
TO A PRIVATE CHAT.
WE TALK FOR HOURS AND NEVER RUN
OUT OF THINGS TO SAY.
I HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HER, AND
SHE IS EXACTLY MY TYPE--
A CUTE, BRAINY BRUNETTE.
>> * FAR AWAY, FAR AWAY
* FAR AWAY, FAR AWAY
* FAR AWAY, FAR AWAY
>> UNFORTUNATELY, KELSEY DOES
NOT SEE HERSELF THE SAME WAY.
BECAUSE OF THESE INSECURITIES,
WE HAVE NEVER VIDEO-CHATTED."
>> * AM I YOUR GOLDEN GIRL?
>> SHE COULDN'T USE THE EXCUSE
OF, LIKE, "OH, I HAVE A BAD
CONNECTION," BECAUSE HE COULD
SOLVE THAT BAD CONNECTION.
>> RIGHT.
"I LOVE THIS GIRL."
>> "L" WORD.
>> "AND I NEED TO KNOW IF MY
DREAMS OF MOVING TO A NEW PLACE
AND HAVING KELSEY THERE WITH ME
ARE REAL.
THIS IS WHY I NEED YOUR HELP."
>> * AM I YOUR GOLDEN GIRL?
>> IT'S DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF
RELATIONSHIPS WE'VE SEEN
IN THE PAST.
>> BUT--
>> THERE'S A CONNECTION ERROR.
>> CONNECTION ERROR.
>> THERE MIGHT BE A BUG IN THIS
RELATIONSHIP.
>> 4-0-4.
THIS PAGE CANNOT LOAD.
>> RIGHT, OOPS.
LET'S DO THIS.
JOHN FROM DETROIT.
>> HERE HE COMES LIVE.
[line trilling]
>> HELLO.
>> HELLO, JOHN.
>> WHAT'S UP, MAN?
>> JUST KIND OF A LITTLE
NERVOUS HERE.
>> OH, REALLY?
>> YEAH.
>> DON'T BE NERVOUS.
>> WHAT'S YOUR SORT OF
DAY-TO-DAY LIKE?
DO YOU HAVE A CORPORATE GIG OR--
>> WELL, I DO I.T. CONSULTING.
I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING TO GET OUT
OF I.T. BECAUSE I'VE BEEN
COMPLETELY BURNT UP BY IT.
I'M LOOKING TO LEAVE THE AREA
AS WELL, AND I'VE ACTUALLY GOT
PLANS TO HEAD OUT WEST TO
SAN DIEGO, TO BE EXACT.
>> NICE.
>> BEFORE I MOVE AND MAKE THIS
BIG STEP, I KIND OF WANT TO KNOW
IF KELSEY IS WITH ME OR IF
I HAVE TO MOVE ON.
>> OKAY, SO YOU MET KELSEY ON A
CHAT ROOM.
>> I TAKE PART IN A LOT OF
PSYCHOLOGY DISCUSSION GROUPS.
PEOPLE ARE TALKING.
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE
ACTUALLY DOING VIDEO CHAT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A TEXT CHAT
ROOM AT THE BOTTOM.
WE HAD INITIALLY MET ONE ANOTHER
THROUGH ONE OF THOSE DEALS.
SHE WAS ACTUALLY ON THE VOICE
ASPECT.
HER VOICE WAS JUST SO CUTE.
SOMETHING ABOUT IT
JUST STRUCK ME.
AND IT JUST PULLED ME IN, AND
I'M LIKE, "I HAVE TO KNOW WHO
THIS PERSON IS."
>> OKAY, SO YOU INITIATE
DIRECT CONTACT WITH KELSEY, AND
THEN YOU GUYS START
AUDIO-CHATTING?
>> NO, IT'S ACTUALLY ALL
TEXT FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.
>> OH, OKAY.
>> THE ONLY TIME I HEARD HER WAS
THAT INITIAL TIME.
>> THAT'S THE ONLY TIME YOU'VE
EVER HEARD HER VOICE?
>> YES.
>> YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO HER
SINCE THAT FIRST--
>> I HAVE NOT.
>> SO, WHEN YOU STARTED TALKING
KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THE CHAT,
WHAT DID YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT?
>> SEE, NOW, THIS IS WHERE I'M
REALLY DRAWN IN BY THIS GIRL--
THE WAY THAT SHE TALKS AND THE
WAY THAT SHE CAN GO INTO SUCH
DEPTH IN CONVERSATIONS THAT
ARE REALLY MEANINGFUL TO ME.
I CAN SEE MYSELF NEVER BEING
BORED WITHIN DISCUSSIONS.
I LIVE FOR THE DEPTH WITHIN
CONVERSATION, THE GOOD STUFF.
>> IS SHE YOUR GIRLFRIEND?
>> YES.
>> YOU'RE A SMART GUY.
YOU LIVE AND WORK ON THE
INTERNET, AND I WOULD IMAGINE
SOMEONE LIKE YOU IS BRIGHT
ENOUGH TO KNOW ABOUT I.P.
ADDRESS SEARCHING.
HAVE YOU CHECKED INTO
ANY OF THAT?
>> I MEAN, I CAN DO THAT, BUT
WITH HER, IT FEELS DEVIOUS
IN A WAY.
>> DOES SHE HAVE A FACEBOOK OR
AN INSTAGRAM OR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
>> NO, NO FACEBOOK.
>> ALL YOU HAVE FOR HER IS A
SCREEN NAME.
>> YES.
IT'S KELSEY BEELZEBUB.
>> BEELZEBUB IS THE
ALIAS OF THE DEVIL.
THIS CASE JUST GOT MORE
INTERESTING.
>> SOUNDS LIKE A TOUGH CASE, BUT
I'M DOWN TO GIVE IT A SHOT.
WE'LL COME AND MEET YOU.
WE'LL TRY TO HELP YOU MEET THIS
GIRL, KELSEY.
>> AWESOME.
I'M READY.
>> SEE YOU SOON, MY MAN.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> LATER, JOHN.
>> LATER.
>> HE'S SO SMART AND SAVVY.
>> LOVE MAKES YOU DUMB.
IT BLINDS YOU, MAKES YOU
IRRATIONAL, MAKES YOU ACCEPT
REALLY WEIRD LIES THAT OTHER
PEOPLE TELL YOU...
>> YEAH.
>> AND JUST TURNS YOU INTO A BIG
BOWL OF MUSH.
>> HE FELL IN LOVE WITH HER
VOICE, AND HE ONLY GOT TO HEAR
IT ONCE.
>> NOTHING SAYS I LOVE YOU LIKE
SHOWING UP AT THE DOOR
WITH NEV SCHULMAN.
>> I KNOW.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> LET'S HIT THE ROAD.
TIME TO GO TO DETROIT.
>> * WELL, LOVE'S SPECTATOR *
>> WE'RE ON THE CASE.
>> * IS A TRAGEDY'S CREATED *
* ANOTHER SHINY GOLD STAR
* RUNS FOR THE SUN
>> SO JOHN--HE'S BASICALLY ABOUT
TO DO A HARD REBOOT OF HIS LIFE.
AND I'M SURE IT BRINGS HIM A LOT
OF COMFORT IF HE COULD START ALL
OVER AGAIN WITH THE PERSON
HE LOVES.
>> * ANOTHER SHINY GOLD STAR
>> IT'S THIS ONE.
LOOK HOW HIGH THIS SNOW PILE IS.
>> * ANOTHER SHINY GOLD STAR
>> WHOO.
>> IT'S LIKE THREE FEET OF SNOW.
>> ALL RIGHT.
[doorbell rings]
[sighs]
HEY.
>> HEY, IT'S JOHN.
>> HEY, GUYS.
>> HEY, DUDE.
HOW YOU DOING?
>> PRETTY GOOD.
YOU GUYS WANT TO GET OUT OF THE
COLD AND COME ON IN?
>> WOW.
VERY NICE.
OH MY GOD.
LOOK AT THAT POOL.
>> COME ON.
IT'S LIKE A SNOWBOARDING
HALF-PIPE RIGHT NOW.
>> THAT IS REALLY COOL.
>> THERE YOU GO.
>> OKAY, SO KELSEY BEELZEBUB--
WHAT STRIKES ME AS INTERESTING
IS THAT YOU SEEM LIKE A REALLY
SMART GUY.
YOU PROBABLY KNOW A LOT MORE
THAN WE DO ABOUT HOW TO GET
AROUND THE INTERNET.
HOW HAVE YOU NOT KIND OF DONE
THE REQUISITE RESEARCH?
IS THAT JUST A BLIND SPOT?
>> IN ALL OF THIS, I'VE KIND OF
BEEN PROVING TO MYSELF, YOU
KNOW, THAT I COULD KILL
PAST HABITS.
I COULD GET KIND OF--JEALOUSY
AND THINGS GET THE BEST OF ME.
>> AND THEN YOU'D, LIKE,
STALK A GIRL.
>> WELL, NOT--I DON'T KNOW ABOUT
ALL THAT, BUT--
>> BUT KIND OF.
>> YEAH.
>> YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO BE GOOD
BY, LIKE, NOT FOLLOWING UP AND
TRYING TO FIND MORE OUT
ABOUT HER.
>> HERE'S ANOTHER THING ABOUT
KELSEY THAT, I MEAN, I HADN'T
REALLY MENTIONED BEFORE.
SHE ACTUALLY HAS BODY DYSMORPHIC
DISORDER.
>> YOU MEAN SHE LOOKS IN THE
MIRROR AND SEES SOMEONE THAT'S
NOT HER.
>> MM-HMM.
WHEN SHE BROUGHT THAT UP, I KIND
OF BACKED OFF IN SAYING, YOU
KNOW, "SEND ME PICTURES OR GET
ON CAM," BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND
THE ISSUES.
>> THE VOICE THING
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
>> THE VOICE.
YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT.
IT'S JUST LIKE, OKAY...
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO?
>> WELL, WHY DON'T YOU SHOW US
WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE?
>> OKAY.
>> WOW.
>> ONE THING I DID DO IS I TOOK
THE IMAGES AND I PUT THEM IN
REVERSE, LIKE, IMAGE SEARCH, AND
THERE WASN'T ANYTHING
WHEN I DID THAT.
SO REALLY IT WAS JUST ME, "OKAY,
GIVE ME MORE," LIKE, MAYBE SHE'S
GOT A PHOTO BOOK, AND I CAN LOOK
AT MORE OF THEM.
AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE
I WAS KIND OF WAS LIKE, "YEAH,
GIVE ME MORE, GIVE ME MORE,
GIVE ME MORE," YOU KNOW?
>> THEY DON'T REALLY LOOK LIKE
PHOTOS OF A GIRL WHO SEEMS THAT
INSECURE ABOUT HERSELF.
>> YEAH. I MEAN, BODY DYSMORPHIC
DISORDER--I KNOW IT HOW IT
MANIFESTS.
I KNOW HOW SOME DAYS, THEY
MIGHT, YOU KNOW--THEY MIGHT SEE
SOMETHING THAT'S OKAY,
AND SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT BE
HORRIFIED AT IT.
>> RIGHT.
>> I KIND OF FELT LIKE I NEED
TO BE THERE FOR HER
IN ANY CAPACITY.
YOU KNOW, I DO CARE FOR HER IN
THAT WAY.
>> HAVE YOU GUYS DABBLED IN THE
DARK ARTS OF, UH, SEXTING?
>> WELL, I'VE SENT HER A DICK
PIC ONCE.
>> WITH YOUR FACE IN IT?
>> NO.
I'M NOT THAT FOOLISH.
>> YOU SENT HER A DICK PIC?
>> YES.
>> YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE
HER PHONE NUMBER.
>> I WAS IN THE MOOD.
>> WHAT DID SHE SAY?
>> WE JUST KIND OF CONTINUED ON
WITH OUR--WITH OUR CHATTING.
>> SHE DIDN'T RECIPROCATE?
>> NO.
>> THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A GOOD
THING, THE FACT THAT SHE MAYBE
WAS MORE COY MAYBE MEANS
THAT IT REALLY IS HER.
>> YOU CAN SEE WHAT LITTLE I'M
WORKING WITH.
>> IS IT FRUSTRATING,
HAVING SO LITTLE?
>> IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING.
IT'S THIS ELEMENT OF NOT KNOWING
THAT'S SO SCARY TO ME AND, YOU
KNOW, THE FEAR OF PUSHING HER
AWAY.
>> WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO
EXPLORING A RELATIONSHIP WITH
SOMEONE WHO WASN'T THE PERSON IN
THOSE PICTURES?
>> THAT WOULD REALLY DEPEND ON
WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE OPENED
PANDORA'S BOX.
IT'S LIKE, I NEED TO KNOW ONE
WAY OR ANOTHER IF I'M GETTING
DUPED OR IF THIS CAN GO FORWARD,
SO...
>> WOULD YOU BE HEARTBROKEN IF
THIS DIDN'T WORK OUT?
>> YEAH.
I THINK I WOULD.
>> * I CAN'T KEEP LEARNING *
* THE SAME LESSONS OVER AGAIN
* I KEEP LEARNING THE SAME
* LESSONS OVER
>> THERE'S DEFINITELY A CHANCE.
>> MM-HMM.
>> WE'LL SEE, AS WE INVESTIGATE,
IF THAT CHANCE INCREASES OR
DECREASES.
BUT I'M PULLING FOR YOU.
ALL RIGHT, DUDE.
>> JOHN.
>> I HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON.
>> ALL RIGHT, MY MAN.
>> SEE YOU, EVERYBODY.
>> HE'S A VERY SMART GUY.
HE MUST REALLY BE IN LOVE WITH
THIS GIRL IN ORDER TO BASICALLY
OVERLOOK ALL THE VERY OBVIOUS
RED FLAGS.
>> RIGHT.
>> IT DOESN'T HOW SMART YOU ARE.
THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE.
>> * I JUST KEEP LEARNING
* THE SAME LESSONS OVER AGAIN
>> WE GOT A SMART GUY...
>> BUT A LITTLE LONELY.
>> NAMED JOHN...
>> LITTLE LONELY.
>> WHO KIND OF LIVES IN HIS
CYBER WORLD.
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT HE
MEETS A BEAUTIFUL GIRL IN A
SKYPE CHAT ROOM ABOUT
PSYCHOLOGY?
>> THIS GIRL HAS GIVEN HIM SOME
PRETTY BOGUS EXCUSES.
I MEAN, BODY DYSMORPHIC
DISORDER--THAT'S A REAL THING,
BUT--
>> YES, BUT IT'S HYPOCRITICAL
FOR HER TO SEND IMAGES
IN A BATHING SUIT.
SHE'S SHOWING OFF HER BODY.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE DEALING
WITH A PRETTY CLEAR CASE OF
CATFISHING.
>> WE DON'T HAVE A LOT TO GO ON.
WE GOT KELSEY BEELZEBUB.
>> AND SOME PHOTOS.
HE SENT US THIS EMAIL.
"HERE'S THE INFORMATION I HAVE
ON KELSEY."
LET'S JUST DOUBLE-CHECK
HIS IMAGE SEARCH, BECAUSE
WHO KNOWS?
IMAGE ONE, KELSEY.
IMAGE NUMBER TWO.
COME ON.
NO MATCH.
WE SHOULD MESSAGE ALL THE
CURRENT MEMBERS OF THIS
CHAT ROOM...
>> YEAH.
>> AND JUST SAY, "HEY,
QUICK QUESTION--
DO ANY OF YOU KNOW OF A GIRL
NAMED KELSEY BEELZEBUB?"
>> YEAH.
>> HERE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
IN THE GROUP.
WE'LL COPY/PASTE IT TO
EVERYBODY.
>> OKAY, OKAY.
>> I'M SENDING THIS TO AARON.
HEY, AARON.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> ADAM THE GAMBLER.
>> PINKKO_MOON.
>> ELLIE.
>> CEE_N_OWENS.
>> SENT.
>> WAITING.
>> both: WHOA.
>> WE GOT A MESSAGE BACK--
BACK FROM AARON.
>> WHY DON'T WE VIDEO-CHAT?
[line trilling]
>> HELLO?
>> YEAH, HEY, MAN.
>> HEY, AARON.
>> HELLO.
>> WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY A
GIRL.
YOU DON'T KNOW A
KELSEY BEELZEBUB, BY ANY CHANCE,
FROM THAT GROUP, DO YOU?
>> YEAH.
WE, UM--WE CHAT.
WE DON'T VIDEO-CHAT OR CALL
OR ANYTHING.
BUT, YEAH, WE TALK.
>> HOW OFTEN DO YOU TALK?
>> EVERY DAY, AT LEAST, LIKE--
>> WOW. JUST A PRIVATE
CONVERSATION BETWEEN YOU GUYS?
>> YEAH.
>> ARE YOU GUYS, LIKE,
INTO EACH OTHER?
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
IT'S MORE LIKE JUST A
FRIENDSHIP.
>> AND HAS SHE EVER TOLD YOU
ANYTHING PERSONAL ABOUT HERSELF?
>> SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE HAD
SOMETHING CALLED BODY
"DEMORPHIA."
>> HAVE YOU SEEN PICTURES
OF HER?
>> MM-MM.
WELL, SHE HAS ONE ON HER
PROFILE.
>> RIGHT.
>> BUT YOU NEVER VIDEO-CHAT.
>> NO.
>> BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T LIKE TO
BE SEEN?
>> I DO KNOW THAT SHE HAS
ANXIETY.
ADAM TOLD ME SHE HAD ANXIETY.
>> ADAM THE GAMBLER.
>> YES.
>> IS IT THE YOUNG ANXIETY CLUB?
>> UH, YEAH.
UM, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE REASON
WHY I JOINED THE SKYPE GROUP,
WAS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT
I HAD ANXIETY.
>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, COOL.
MAYBE WE'LL BE IN TOUCH.
BUT OTHERWISE, THANK YOU.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THE
SOCIALLY ANXIOUS GROUP.
>> THAT DEFINITELY GIVES A
LITTLE BIT MORE VALIDITY
TO HER STORY.
>> YEAH.
>> WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR BACK
FROM, LIKE, TEN PEOPLE FROM
THAT GROUP.
I THINK WE COULD WAIT NOW, SEE
IF WE HEAR BACK FROM ANYBODY,
AND SORT OF DIVE BACK IN
TOMORROW MORNING.
I'M CLOSING--I'M CLOSING DOWN.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> LOOKS LIKE LATE LAST NIGHT
WE MAY HAVE RECEIVED A MESSAGE
FROM ELLIE.
>> LET'S SEE.
>> "HEY.
HA HA HA, I DON'T LIVE IN
THE UNITED STATES,
SO THAT MIGHT BE A PROBLEM.
BUT SURE, I WOULD LOVE
TO VIDEO-CALL."
>> WHERE IS SHE?
>> FAROE ISLANDS?
>> WHERE ARE THE FAROE ISLANDS?
>> OH, MY GOD.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
>> IT'S, LIKE, A SMALL GROUP OF
ISLANDS BETWEEN
THE UNITED KINGDOM AND ICELAND.
LET'S VIDEO-CALL.
[line trilling]
>> HELLO.
>> HELLO, ELLIE.
>> HI.
>> HOW ARE YOU?
>> WHERE ARE YOU?
>> WOW.
WE'RE IN DETROIT, MICHIGAN.
>> HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO THE
U.S.?
>> WAIT.
ADAM FROM THE GROUP?
ADAM THE GAMBLER?
>> YEAH.
>> DO YOU KNOW OR DO YOU EVER
TALK TO ANYBODY, UM...
WHAT'S HIS USER NAME?
>> REVELATOR?
>> REVELATOR?
HE'S PART OF THE GROUP TOO.
REALLY?
>> MM-HMM.
>> DO YOU KNOW KELSEY?
WHEN YOU TALK TO KELSEY, IS IT
TYPING, OR IS IT LIKE THIS?
YOU VIDEO WITH ADAM.
WHO ELSE DO YOU VIDEO WITH?
OH, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ADAM?
>> NO.
>> REALLY?
>> YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HE LOOKS
LIKE?
>> WOW.
WHY HAVEN'T YOU VIDEO-CHATTED?
IT'S CRAZY THAT, YOU KNOW, TWO
DIFFERENT COUPLES FROM THIS CHAT
ROOM ARE EXPERIENCING VERY
SIMILAR RELATIONSHIPS.
IF YOU SPEAK TO ADAM, TELL HIM
YOU WANT TO VIDEO-CHAT.
OKAY.
>> LET US KNOW HOW IT GOES
VIDEO-CHATTING WITH ADAM.
>> both: OH.
>> I GUESS WE'RE GOOD.
>> THAT'S HOW THEY SAY GOOD-BYE
IN THE FAROE ISLANDS.
>> HERE'S A REALLY CUTE YOUNG
GIRL WHO'S SMART AND INTERESTING
AND ON THIS CHAT ROOM.
SO ALREADY IT PROVES THAT THAT
CAN HAPPEN.
>> THEY'RE ALL SUFFERING FROM
SOME SORT OF SOCIAL ANXIETY, AND
SO, GENERALLY, ASKING PEOPLE TO
VIDEO-CHAT IS NOT DONE.
IT'S AMAZING.
IT'S A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE FROM
ALL AROUND THE WORLD WHO ARE
MORE OR LESS THE SAME AGE
TALKING ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY
AND THE BRAIN.
>> AND THEN MEETING EACH OTHER
AND FALLING IN LOVE.
[cell phone chimes]
>> OH.
>> OOH, TEXT FROM OUR GUY.
"HEY, NEV.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU
MIGHT HAVE HAD ANY SUCCESS
FINDING ANYTHING OUT PERTAINING
TO KELSEY."
"PROBABLY BEST TO MEET UP
AND DISCUSS."
>> I MEAN, IF ANYTHING, IT ALL
POINTS TO THE POSITIVE.
>> SO THERE'S A CHANCE THAT
KELSEY IS WHO SHE SAYS SHE IS.
>> ALL RIGHT.
HERE'S WHAT'S UP.
WE WENT THROUGH THAT LIST THAT
YOU SENT US OF ALL THE MEMBERS
OF THE PSYCHOLOGY GROUP.
AND WE REACHED OUT TO EACH ONE.
LAST NIGHT WE SPOKE TO AARON.
HE SAID HE KNEW KELSEY
FROM THE GROUP.
>> HE KNEW THAT SHE HAD BODY
DYSMORPHIC DISORDER.
>> IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT.
>> THE NEXT PERSON WE HEARD BACK
FROM WAS ELLIE.
SHE'S AWESOME.
>> YEAH, SHE'S A COOL GIRL.
I DID HAVE AN INTEREST THERE AT
SOME POINT.
>> WE ASKED HER WHAT SHE KNOWS
ABOUT KELSEY.
>> SHE SAID THEY BECAME FRIENDS.
THEY WERE TALKING A BUNCH
BACK AND FORTH.
>> ELLIE IS GOING OUT WITH
ADAM...
>> OKAY.
>> FROM THE GROUP.
AND INTERESTINGLY, ELLIE AND
ADAM HAVE BEEN DATING NOW,
LIKE, SINCE NOVEMBER.
AND SHE'S NEVER VIDEO-CHATTED
WITH HIM.
AND SHE'S SUPER COMFORTABLE
VIDEO-CHATTING.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SHE GOT RIGHT
ON WITH US.
AS YOU CAN SEE, SHE'S PRETTY AND
SEEMS VERY CONFIDENT.
BUT THE MORE IMPORTANT POINT IS
TWO OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS CHAT
ROOM HAVE TALKED TO KELSEY, AND
EVERYTHING SEEMS TO LINE UP.
SO THERE'S A CHANCE THAT KELSEY
IS WHO SHE SAYS SHE IS.
>> OKAY, THAT'S GOOD.
I MEAN, I'M JUST KIND OF LIKE,
WHEW.
I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW MORE.
>> THE MAIN GOAL IS TO JUST
SET UP A MEETING.
>> LET'S REACH OUT AND SEE IF
SHE GETS BACK TO US.
"THIS IS NEV FROM THE MTV SHOW
CATFISH.
I AM WITH YOUR FRIEND JOHN,
AND WE WOULD LOVE TO CHAT."
OKAY, YOU COOL WITH THIS?
>> YEAH.
>> ALL RIGHT. SENT.
NOW IT'S JUST A WAITING GAME.
>> DID WE GET ANYTHING BACK
FROM KELSEY?
>> SHE ACCEPTED OUR CONTACT
REQUEST AND THEN WROTE, "I WILL
CHAT WITH YOU, BUT I FEEL MORE
COMFORTABLE CHATTING OVER TEXT
CHAT."
WE'VE MADE CONTACT.
>> YEAH, SHE'S GOTTEN BACK TO
US.
>> SO I'LL TYPE BACK TO HER AND
SAY, "WE WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO
YOU A LITTLE ABOUT YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH JOHN."
[computer beeps]
>> "JOHN IS A REALLY
AMAZING GUY.
HE MEANS EVERYTHING TO ME."
>> "WE WERE INTERESTED TO KNOW
HOW YOU WOULD FEEL ABOUT MEETING
UP WITH HIM."
[computer beeps]
WOW.
"I WOULD LOVE TO MEET HIM, BUT
I'M VERY ANXIOUS.
I'M AFRAID OF WHAT HE WILL
THINK OF ME."
BITEY LIP, NERVOUS FACE.
"I HAVE BODY DYSMORPHIC
DISORDER.
ONLINE FEELS A LOT SAFER FOR
ME."
"MIGHT BE A REALLY GOOD STEP TO
TAKE TOWARD LETTING YOURSELF
BE LOVED."
[computer beeps]
>> WOW.
GURU NEV.
[computer beeps]
OH, HERE WE GO, HERE WE GO.
>> OH, WOW.
"YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT.
I LONG TO BE LOVED BY SOMEONE.
I JUST WANT TO GET AWAY FROM IT
ALL."
"WOULD YOU BE AVAILABLE
AS SOON AS TOMORROW?"
[computer beeps]
"I CAN DO TOMORROW.
I WILL MAKE SURE I BUY SOMETHING
NICE AT THE MALL SO I CAN LOOK
MY BEST FOR HIM.
I LIVE IN ORLANDO."
BAM, WE GOT AN ADDRESS.
>> NEV, THE CLOSER.
>> ALL RIGHT.
[line trilling]
LET'S GIVE OUR MAN A CALL,
LET HIM KNOW.
>> HELLO?
>> YO.
>> HEY, WHAT'S UP?
>> HEY, MAN. GOOD MORNING.
WE WERE JUST TALKING
WITH KELSEY.
I TOLD HER THAT YOU WANT
TO MEET HER.
SHE'S VERY NERVOUS.
SHE'S AFRAID.
SHE'S FREAKING OUT, BUT...
SHE WANTS TO MEET UP.
>> INTERESTING.
>> IF WE GO DOWN THERE AND WE
CHASE THIS KELSEY, WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT WE'RE GONNA FIND.
IF YOU WANT--
>> * OH, LET'S GO DOWN *
* IN THE MOMENT
* WE'RE LOST AND FOUND *
>> I THINK WE SHOULD JUST SORT
OF CATCH THE NEXT FLIGHT OUT OF
HERE TO ORLANDO.
ALL RIGHT, COOL.
>> * FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES
>> ALL RIGHT, HERE WE ARE.
LOOK AT THIS GUY.
>> BONE CHARM.
>> YEAH?
IS THAT A GOOD-LUCK THING?
>> AND PASSION.
>> HOW ARE YOU FEELING?
>> ANXIOUS.
>> WHAT IF IT IS HER?
>> THAT'S [bleep] SWEET, THEN.
>> THEN WHAT HAPPENS?
>> THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE
NEXT STEP.
I'M TRYING TO KEEP MY WITS ABOUT
ME, KEEP MYSELF FROM FALLING
APART.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> READY?
>> GOT IT?
I'LL GRAB THIS.
>> GOT YA.
>> YOUR CHARIOT AWAITS.
>> * BEEN AROUND THIS TOWN
* FOR WAY TOO LONG
* I THINK IT'S TIME *
* IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING *
* OH, OH
>> I'M ABLE TO GIVE SOMEBODY THE
BEST VERSION OF MYSELF
THAN I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
IN THE PAST.
THE FACT THAT SHE DOES DISCUSS
HER VULNERABILITIES SO OPENLY--
IT TAKES A STRONG PERSON
TO DO THAT.
>> * OH, OH, OH
* IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING *
*
>> IT'S GONNA BE ON THE RIGHT
SIDE.
2-1-6.
>> IT'S THE NEXT ONE.
>> 3-2.
THIS IS BACK IN THE 3s NOW.
WOULD IT BE--
>> DID I PASS IT?
>> WHAT'S GOING ON HERE NOW?
>> MAYBE I PASSED IT.
DID WE GET IT WRONG?
THIS IS IT.
THIS IS THE RIGHT SPOT, IF THE
ADDRESS SHE GAVE US IS CORRECT.
>> THERE IS A WEIRD EMPTY LOT.
>> MAYBE THAT'S 2-2-8.
>> WHAT ABOUT THIS MAILBOX?
DOES THAT SAY ANYTHING ON IT?
>> JUMP OUT.
WHAT DID IT SAY ON IT?
>> IT SAYS NOTHING ON IT.
>> SHE'S ONLINE.
LET'S MESSAGE HER AND SEE WHAT
SHE SAYS.
"HEY, THERE IS...
NO HOUSE HERE."
>> I DON'T LIKE THIS.
>> OH, HERE, WAIT.
SHE WROTE BACK.
"I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU
WERE REALLY HERE."
>> IS SHE LOOKING THROUGH THE
FENCE OR SOMETHING?
>> "I'M ACTUALLY AT A LOCAL
CAFE."
>> WHAT THE [bleep] IS THAT?
>> SO SHE'S REALLY SCARED, BUT
NOW IT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION
HERE.
THE TEMPERATURE JUST CHANGED
THERE.
>> WHOEVER THIS IS, THEY'VE BEEN
HIDING FOR A LONG TIME.
LOOKS LIKE KELSEY JUST SORT OF
WANTS TO MESS AROUND.
>> I JUST GOT BUMPED UP FROM
YELLOW TO ORANGE ALERT.
>> THERE'S THE CAFE.
IT'S IN THERE.
SHE GAVE US AN ADDRESS.
>> IT'S NOT A CAFE.
IT'S A BUSINESS CENTER.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE A BUNCH OF
[bleep] BULL[bleep] NOW,
JUST A BUNCH OF [bleep]
BULL[bleep].
>> [sighs]
LET'S GO IN.
LET'S SCOPE IT OUT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
YOU CAN GAMBLE IN HERE TOO.
IT'S LIKE A CASINO.
>> IT'S A CASINO?
>> YEAH.
OH, MY GOD.
>> LET'S SEE.
>> HEY, BRO.
HOW'S IT GOING?
MY NAME'S KELSEY.
I'M ADAM THE GAMBLER.
>> OH, WOW.
>> [chuckles]
>> SO WHAT'S YOUR ENDGAME HERE?
>> JUST TO HAVE FUN WITH YOU,
MAN.
THAT WAS IT, YOU KNOW.
IT WAS A GAME.
IT'S OVER NOW.
>> SO THIS IS ALL JUST FUN AND
GAMES?
>> YEAH, REALLY, IT IS.
YEAH.
>> IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE MORE
MEANINGFUL THAT YOU THINK YOU
PROVED WITH THIS?
>> NO.
THERE'S NO DEEPER MEANING TO ANY
OF THIS.
>> WHOSE PICTURES ARE YOU USING?
>> ACTUALLY, A GIRL I KNOW FROM
HIGH SCHOOL.
>> DO YOU HAVE A JOB?
ARE YOU IN SCHOOL?
>> YEAH.
THIS IS LIKE MY JOB RIGHT NOW.
I'LL GO HERE.
I TIME THE JACKPOT, SO I'LL JUST
DO WHATEVER I WANT ON MY PHONE,
TIME THE JACKPOT, WIN ABOUT
60 BUCKS FOR THE NIGHT, GO HOME.
>> HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA
WIN THE JACKPOT?
>> I HAVE AN ALGORITHM, YOU SEE?
I COUNT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN
HERE, RIGHT?
AND THEN I HAVE, LIKE, ALL THE
TIMES ON MY PHONE.
I CAN EVEN SHOW YOU THAT.
I HAVE ALL THE TIMES THAT
THEY'VE EVER GONE OFF.
>> HE'S RIGGED IT.
>> YEAH.
IN BETWEEN JACKPOTS, THERE'S,
LIKE, A TRANSITION PERIOD WHERE
YOU'RE WAITING FOR THE THING.
I LOG IN HERE, PRETEND TO BE
KELSEY, TALK TO HIM A WHILE.
IT WAS JUST SOMETHING TO DO TO
PASS THE TIME.
>> DID YOU CREATE THAT
PSYCHOLOGY GROUP TO LURE PEOPLE
IN TO THEN, LIKE, MESS WITH THEM
AND CARRY ON FAKE RELATIONSHIPS
WITH?
>> I TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT
THAT I HAD THIS GROUP UP, YEAH.
LET'S ADD THIS OTHER ACCOUNT OF
MINE IN THERE, AND LET'S SEE WHO
WE CAN MESS WITH, YOU KNOW.
>> HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU THINK
YOU'VE CATFISHED?
>> I WOULD SAY ABOUT MAYBE 30,
40, AROUND THERE.
IT'S JUST INTERESTING TO ME AND
FUN.
>> IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH
ELLIE SOMETHING THAT YOU EVEN
CARE ABOUT?
>> OR ARE YOU JUST USING HER?
>> OH, NO, I CARE ABOUT ELLIE.
YOU KNOW, SHE'S MY GIRLFRIEND.
IT'S NOT A COVER-UP
OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE GENUINE
FEELINGS FOR HER.
>> I'VE TALKED TO ELLIE BEFORE--
SWEET GIRL, AMAZING GIRL.
WHAT IN THE [bleep] WORLD
MAKES YOU THINK YOU'RE GETTING
ANYWHERE WITH THAT?
>> I CAN JUSTIFY ANYTHING.
I CAN JUSTIFY ANYTHING.
>> SO HOW'D YOU LIKE MY DICK
PIC?
>> THAT WAS, UH, INTERESTING.
THANK YOU FOR SENDING IT TO ME.
I REALLY WANT THAT ON MY
COMPUTER.
>> YOU'RE JERKING YOURSELF OFF
TO THIS [bleep]?
>> [laughs]
NO, I DELETED IT QUICKLY AFTER.
>> DID YOU JUST WAKE UP THIS
MORNING AND SAY, "YOU KNOW WHAT,
I WANT TO PLAY A BAD GUY ON TV,
I JUST WANT TO BE THE WORST
VERSION OF MYSELF THAT I CAN
BE"?
IS THAT WHAT YOU DECIDED?
>> YEAH, THAT WAS WHAT I--
THAT'S--
>> I MEAN, IS THIS REALLY WHO
YOU ARE RIGHT NOW?
>> THIS IS REALLY WHO I AM.
I'M THE JOKER.
>> I MEAN--
>> THIS IS THE KIND OF LOSER
THAT GIVES OUR SHOW A BAD NAME.
I MEAN, WE'RE REALLY SITTING
HERE GIVING HIM ANY AIRTIME?
>> I'M THE KING OF CATFISHES,
RIGHT?
>> NO, YOU'RE NOT.
>> I AM. I AM THE KING CATFISH.
>> YOU'RE REALLY NOT.
>> I AM.
>> I'M DONE HERE.
I'M DONE.
I'M DONE.
>> IT'S JUST A BIG WASTE.
THAT'S ALL.
I MEAN, I KIND OF, YOU KNOW,
EXPECTED THIS AS A SCENARIO
HERE, SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT
IT'S SOME KIND OF INTERNET TROLL
OF SOME SORT.
YOU LIVE, AND YOU LEARN,
AND YOU WON'T MAKE THE SAME
MISTAKE TWICE.
>> IS THAT THE REACTION YOU WERE
HOPING FOR?
>> NO, NO, IT'S NOT, ACTUALLY.
I WAS REALLY HOPING THAT YOU'D
GET REALLY ANGRY.
I WANTED TO BOIL YOU.
BUT IT DIDN'T SEEM TO HAPPEN
THAT WAY.
IT'S TOO BAD.
>> I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU THINK
YOU'RE THIS SORT OF MASTERMIND.
>> RIGHT.
>> BUT IT'S GONNA BE A LONG AND
BORING AND SORT OF MEANINGLESS
LIFE.
>> I HAVE A GOOD--YOU KNOW,
A GOOD JOB, A GOOD LIFE.
I'M HAPPY WITH MYSELF.
>> FINE.
>> I CAN SAY THAT.
I CAN MANIPULATE THIS FOOL RIGHT
HERE AND SAY THAT I'M HAPPY
WITH MYSELF.
>> IT'S [bleep] PITIFUL, MAN.
IT'S PITIFUL.
>> [laughs]
>> OKAY, I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH
FOOTAGE.
>> [laughs]
>> * WE SLOWLY FALL FROM GRACE
* WE SLOWLY FADE AWAY
>> OH, [bleep].
*
YOU GAVE HIM THE ROPE.
HE HUNG HIMSELF.
>> RIGHT.
>> LET'S GO CALL ELLIE.
*
[line trilling]
>> WE CAME ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE
TO MEET KELSEY.
IT TURNS OUT...
KELSEY IS REALLY ADAM.
>> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF ALL THAT?
I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO HAVE
A TALK.
>> ADAM THOUGHT HE WOULD GET TO
SORT OF LAUGH AND ENJOY IT
AND WATCH SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW,
GET THEIR HEART BROKEN OR BE
EMBARRASSED, AND THEN IT WOULD
JUST SORT OF BE, LIKE, CLICK,
ON TO THE NEXT.
>> I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE TRYING
TO DO HERE?
ARE WE TRYING TO GET HIM TO
STOP?
>> WELL, I'D LIKE HIM TO REALIZE
THAT WHAT HE DOES ACTUALLY HAS
REAL-WORLD EFFECT.
>> HE DEFINITELY IS STARTING
VERY REAL RELATIONSHIPS
WITH THESE PEOPLE.
HE DOESN'T QUITE REALIZE HOW
THIS IS ALL GONNA BITE HIM IN
THE ASS.
>> THAT'S FOR SURE.
[knock at door]
>> COME ON IN.
>> HAVE YOU THOUGHT ANY MORE
ABOUT IT?
>> OF COURSE I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT
IT.
IT SUCKS TO LOSE IT, TO REALIZE
THAT IT NEVER REALLY EXISTED IN
THE FIRST PLACE.
THE WOUND IS THERE.
THE PAIN IS THERE.
BUT I CAN CHANNEL THAT ENERGY IN
A CONSTRUCTIVE WAY AND NOT A
DESTRUCTIVE WAY.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU WANT TO
SAY TO HIM?
>> I JUST WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS.
WHY?
GET TO THE ACTUAL "WHY,"
PERHAPS.
>> LET'S CALL ADAM.
[line trilling]
>> HELLO?
>> HELLO, ADAM?
>> HEY.
>> WE WERE WONDERING IF YOU WERE
INTERESTED IN MEETING UP WITH
US?
OKAY.
THANKS.
>> JOHN, NEV, UM, HEY.
>> WHY DON'T YOU HAVE A SEAT
THERE?
>> THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
>> THE WAY I ACTED YESTERDAY...
IT WAS REALLY JUST ALL A FACADE.
THAT'S NOT REALLY HOW I AM.
>> SO THEN WHY DID YOU DO
ALL THIS?
>> RIGHT.
>> BECAUSE IT OFFERED ME, YOU
KNOW, ADVANTAGES IN TERMS OF
BEING--HIM NOT BEING ABLE TO HIT
ON ELLIE.
I JUST THOUGHT JOHN WAS THIS GUY
WHO JUST WANTED TO JOIN THE
GROUP SO THAT HE COULD, LIKE,
HIT ON GIRLS.
LIKE, I THOUGHT HE WOULD, LIKE,
HIT ON ELLIE OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT.
>> DID YOU SEE COMPETITION
IN ME?
>> A LITTLE BIT, YEAH.
>> OKAY, NOW IT'S STARTING
TO MAKE SENSE HERE.
>> YEAH.
I MEAN, I CREATED HER SO THAT HE
COULDN'T APPROACH ELLIE.
>> WERE THERE OTHER GUYS FROM
THE CHAT GROUP THAT YOU DID THIS
TO KEEP THEM AWAY FROM ELLIE?
>> MM-HMM. YEAH.
I WOULD FLIRT WITH, YOU KNOW,
OTHER GUYS.
>> WAS THERE EVER A KELSEY
VOICE?
>> YEAH, ACTUALLY.
I USED A YOUTUBE RECORDING, AND
THEN I PLAYED IT THROUGH THE
MICROPHONE.
>> WHY ARE YOU TALKING TO ELLIE
AS KELSEY?
>> I HAD KELSEY TELL ELLIE TO
MAKE AN OK CUPID PROFILE SO
I COULD GET HER QUESTIONS AND
STUFF LIKE THAT SO I'D BE ABLE
TO SEDUCE HER AS MY ADAM
ACCOUNT BY KNOWING INFORMATION
ABOUT HER.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE HER
FEEL LIKE SHE COULD RELATE TO
ME.
I WANTED TO MAKE HER FEEL LIKE
SHE HAD THAT SENSE OF
CONNECTION.
BUT YESTERDAY I TRIED TO
CONTACT HER.
I CONTACT HER EVERY DAY, BUT
YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST DAY THAT
SHE NEVER REPLIED TO ME ALL DAY.
I TRIED AS SOON AS I GOT HOME
UNTIL THE TIME I WENT TO BED.
SO I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW,
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING--
>> MAYBE A TASTE OF YOUR OWN
MEDICINE.
>> DID YOU FEEL A NEED TO
SABOTAGE MY RELATIONSHIP WITH
HER?
>> WE DIDN'T SABOTAGE ANYTHING.
WE SIMPLY TOLD HER WHAT YOU DID.
SHE NOW HAS THE DECISION TO DO
WHATEVER SHE WANTS.
>> RIGHT, BUT--
>> I MEAN, DID YOU CONSIDER HOW
DEEPLY YOU CARED ABOUT YOUR
GIRLFRIEND BEFORE YOU WENT ON AS
THE UBER-VILLAIN THAT YOU WERE
SO EXCITED TO BE AND HOW MAYBE
THAT WOULD CHANGE HER
PERCEPTION OF YOU?
>> YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST A ROLE.
>> YOU GOT TO DROP THE EGO, MAN.
JUST ADMIT, YOU KNOW, "HEY,
I [bleep] UP."
>> YEAH, OKAY, I DID.
>> AT THE END OF THE DAY,
YOU DIDN'T DO THIS TO US.
YOU DID IT TO JOHN.
AND JOHN'S BEEN VERY QUIET.
AND I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT
HE'S THINKING RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M GONNA REMOVE MYSELF
FROM THIS TABLE.
I THINK THAT YOU AND JOHN NEED
TO HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT'S
SEPARATE FROM US.
>> OKAY.
>> SO I'M GONNA SAY GOOD-BYE.
>> I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO
SAY TO YOU.
I'M DEALING WITH A LOT.
>> I FEEL A LOT OF, UH--
I FEEL A LOT OF GUILT, REALLY,
FOR DOING THIS TO YOU.
>> I'M GLAD THAT YOU FEEL
GUILTY.
I'M GLAD THAT YOU FEEL GUILTY.
>> ALL RIGHT, I'M GETTING ELLIE
ON VIDEO CHAT.
[line trilling]
HI, ELLIE.
>> HEY, WHAT'S UP?
>> HOW ARE YOU?
YOU DESERVE ANSWERS, AND THIS IS
YOUR CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS.
>> THIS EPISODE OF
CATFISH: THE TV SHOW
CONTINUES NOW.
>> WE THOUGHT THE BEST THING TO
DO WOULD JUST BE TO LET ADAM
TALK TO YOU AND EXPLAIN
IT TO YOU.
SO, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT,
WE CAN BRING YOU RIGHT NOW
TO TALK TO HIM.
ALL RIGHT, SO I'M GONNA BRING
YOU INSIDE.
>> I DON'T DEAL IN ANGER AND
NEGATIVE ENERGY.
SO I CAN'T HATE YOU.
AND I KNOW, BASED ON OUR
CONVERSATIONS, WHAT KIND OF MIND
YOU'VE GOT.
YOU ARE--YOU'RE [bleep] BRIGHT.
YOU'RE SMART.
YOU KNOW YOUR [bleep].
JUST PUT IT IN THE RIGHT
CONTEXT.
>> SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
SINCE YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT
WHAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SAID
TO ELLIE, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR
YOU JUST TO EXPLAIN FOR
YOURSELF.
SO WE'VE GOT HER HERE.
>> OH, MY GOD.
HEY, ELLIE.
YEAH?
RIGHT.
IT'S REALLY UPSETTING TO ME TO
EVEN TALK TO YOU LIKE THIS.
OH, MY GOD.
OKAY.
YEAH, IT'S TRUE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M KELSEY.
I MADE KELSEY BECAUSE I REALLY
JUST--I WANTED TO GET TO KNOW
YOU MORE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS--I WAS
AFRAID, I GUESS, TO JUST TALK TO
YOU AS ADAM.
SO ORIGINALLY I TALKED TO YOU AS
KELSEY.
I WANTED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT
YOU.
I HAD NO INTENTION OF EVER
MANIPULATING YOU OR ANYTHING
LIKE THAT.
I ALWAYS HAD YOUR BEST INTEREST
IN MIND.
LIKE, I CARE ABOUT YOU SO MUCH.
LIKE, I KNOW IT DOESN'T SEEM
THAT WAY, BUT IT'S TRUE.
UM...
WELL, HERE'S THE THING.
I THOUGHT JOHN WOULD TRY TO COME
ON TO YOU BECAUSE HE WAS IN THE
GROUP, YOU KNOW.
YEAH, PRETTY MUCH.
YEAH.
I'M SORRY I GOT YOU INTO THIS.
I'M EVEN MORE SORRY THAT I KIND
OF HAVE, LIKE, YOU KNOW,
I GUESS, CATFISHED YOU
WITH KELSEY, IF YOU WANT
TO CALL IT THAT.
THIS IS ME, YOU KNOW,
JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU,
TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING OUT.
BYE.
>> ALL RIGHT, SAY GOOD-BYE TO
THIS PERSON, AND WE'RE GONNA
LEAVE.
>> BYE, JOHN.
SEE YA.
>> ADIOS.
EXCUSE ME.
>> * BUILDING DREAMS
* JUST KEEP DANCING
* TILL THE MUSIC STOPS
* BUILDING DREAMS
* WE'RE BUILDING DREAMS *
>> YOU FEELING ANYTHING NOW?
>> OH, I'M FEELING A LOT.
>> WOW.
WHAT A DAY.
>> DEFINITELY RILED ME UP.
>> YOU HANDLED YOURSELF WELL,
YOU KNOW, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT HE
MAKES YOU ANGRY.
>> I FEEL BAD THAT I DID GET
ANGRY, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE
I SHOULD EXPECT MORE
OUT OF MYSELF.
>> IT'S GOOD TO FEEL ANGER.
>> YOU'D BE INHUMAN IF WHAT HE
WAS SAYING DIDN'T RILE YOU UP IN
SOME WAY.
>> WELL, IT DEFINITELY MAKES MY
CHOICES FROM HERE ON OUT EASIER.
WHEN I MOVE, I DON'T HAVE ANY
DISTRACTIONS NOW.
>> NICE JOB, BUDDY.
>> THANKS, GUYS.
>> * THINK ABOUT YOU
* ALL THE TIME
[line trilling]
>> HELLO, ADAM.
>> HEY, NEV.
HOW'S IT GOING?
>> I SEE YOU'RE NOW ADAM THE
TRAVELER.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
ACTUALLY, I'M IN LOS ANGELES
RIGHT NOW.
>> REALLY?
YOU MOVED TO CALIFORNIA?
>> WELL, NOT REALLY MOVED.
I'M COUCH SURFING AT THE MOMENT.
BUT I'M GONNA BE HERE FOR
A COUPLE MONTHS.
I'M TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, REALIZE
MY DREAMS OF BECOMING A WRITER
AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> HAVE YOU HAD ANY TIME TO
ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU
WERE DOING AND LEARN--YOU KNOW,
SORT OF GROW FROM IT OR--
>> I DON'T KNOW.
I GUESS I'VE GROWN FROM IT.
SURE.
>> WELL, I GUESS NOT.
I MEAN, THAT'S OKAY TOO.
I'M JUST WONDERING HOW YOU FEEL,
LOOKING BACK AT THE WHOLE
EXPERIENCE.
>> IT WAS REALLY JUST A
WASTE OF MY TIME, SO I'VE
MOVED PAST THAT.
>> WHAT ABOUT ELLIE?
>> WELL, AFTER CATFISH, OUR
RELATIONSHIP WAS KIND OF,
YOU KNOW, IFFY.
BUT I WAS ABLE TO, LIKE,
YOU KNOW, RENEW OUR
RELATIONSHIP.
SO, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE BETTER
THAN EVER RIGHT NOW.
>> AT LEAST YOU'RE NOT SITTING
IN THAT STRANGE CASINO.
I THINK THE FACT THAT
YOU'RE OUT IN THE REAL WORLD
PURSUING AN ACTUAL CAREER IS A
BIG STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
>> YEAH.
>> GOOD LUCK.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANKS. LATER.
>> LATER.
[line trilling]
>> HEY.
>> HEY.
>> HEY, IT'S JOHN.
>> HOW YOU DOING?
>> HOW'S DETROIT TREATING YOU?
>> WELL, I'M NOT IN DETROIT
RIGHT NOW.
I'M ACTUALLY IN ILLINOIS.
>> REALLY?
>> YEAH.
>> WHAT ARE YOU DOING THERE?
>> VISITING A FEMALE FRIEND
OF MINE.
>> WAIT, WHO'S THIS FEMALE
FRIEND?
>> YEAH, WHO'S THE LADY?
>> WELL, IT'S A GIRL I'VE KNOWN
FOR--SINCE ABOUT NOVEMBER.
>> BUT NOW YOU'RE IN ILLINOIS,
AND YOU'RE ACTUALLY WITH HER
PHYSICALLY IN REAL LIFE?
>> YES.
>> WELL, THAT'S AWESOME.
THAT'S PROGRESS ALREADY.
HAVE YOU SPOKEN AT ALL WITH ADAM
SINCE YOU LEFT?
>> YEAH, WE'VE TALKED.
>> REALLY?
>> YEAH, WE HAVE.
WE'RE AMICABLE.
HE SEEMS TO FEEL A LITTLE
[bleep] ABOUT IT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY ILL WILL
TOWARDS THE GUY.
>> YOU ARE SO UNDERSTANDING,
JOHN.
>> YEAH. ALL RIGHT, WELL,
I'M GLAD THAT THERE'S A
HAPPY ENDING HERE, A LITTLE
SILVER LINING TO ALL THIS.
>> CONGRATS.
>> SEE YA.
>> "I NEED YOUR HELP TO FIND
ELIJAH.
AS BOYFRIEND AND GIRLFRIEND, WE
WERE A DREAM.
THEN HE DISAPPEARED."
>> A COUPLE MONTHS LATER YOU MET
DANNY.
>> YEAH, THAT WAS GREAT TIMING.
>> NOW WE'VE GOT A LOVE
TRIANGLE.
>> WHY ARE THERE SO MANY
ELIJAH PROKS?
>> ANYONE CAN WALK OUT OF THAT
DOOR.
>> OH, MY GOD.
OH, MY GOD.
>> WE'RE RINGING THE DOORBELL.
[doorbell rings]
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SIDE.
2-1-6.
>> IT'S THE NEXT ONE.
>> MAYBE I PASSED IT.
>> DID WE GET IT WRONG?
>> THERE IS A WEIRD EMPTY LOT.
>> I DON'T LIKE THIS.
>> "THERE IS NO HOUSE HERE."
>> IS SHE LOOKING THROUGH THE
FENCE OR SOMETHING?
LOVE MAKES YOU DUMB.
>> HOW'S YOUR BREAKFAST?
>> NUTRITIOUS AND DELICIOUS.
HOW ABOUT OUR TABLE MANNERS FOR
ALL THE KIDS WATCHING AT HOME,
MAX?
WE'VE GOT A MISSION.
>> YOU GOT THE CAT SIGNAL?
>> I THINK SO.
>> WHAT WOULD THE CATFISH SIGN
BE?
>> IT WOULD BE, LIKE, A HEART
WITH A QUESTION MARK IN THE
MIDDLE OR SOMETHING.
ALL RIGHT.
THIS IS A GOOD SUBJECT LINE.
"ONE STEP AWAY FROM GETTING THE
GIRL OF MY DREAMS OR LOSING HER
FOREVER."
>> HIGH STAKES.
I LIKE IT.
>> "I AM 27 AND LIVE IN DETROIT,
AND I HAVE WORKED IN I.T.
FOR OVER TEN YEARS."
>> INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.
>> MOSTLY YOU'RE JUST DEALING
WITH PEOPLE WHO CAN'T FIGURE OUT
HOW TO, LIKE, FIND THEIR EMAIL.
>> AND THEY'RE PANICKED AND
WILL JUST YELL AT YOU.
>> "I HAVE BEEN IN A
LONG-DISTANCE RELATIONSHIP WITH
A VERY BEAUTIFUL AND BRIGHT
GIRL, KELSEY, SINCE SEPTEMBER
OF LAST YEAR.
AND SHE IS A KINDRED SPIRIT.
KELSEY AND I MET ON A CHAT ROOM.
WE SOON MOVED OUR CONVERSATION
TO A PRIVATE CHAT.
WE TALK FOR HOURS AND NEVER RUN
OUT OF THINGS TO SAY.
I HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HER, AND
SHE IS EXACTLY MY TYPE--
A CUTE, BRAINY BRUNETTE.
>> * FAR AWAY, FAR AWAY
* FAR AWAY, FAR AWAY
* FAR AWAY, FAR AWAY
>> UNFORTUNATELY, KELSEY DOES
NOT SEE HERSELF THE SAME WAY.
BECAUSE OF THESE INSECURITIES,
WE HAVE NEVER VIDEO-CHATTED."
>> * AM I YOUR GOLDEN GIRL?
>> SHE COULDN'T USE THE EXCUSE
OF, LIKE, "OH, I HAVE A BAD
CONNECTION," BECAUSE HE COULD
SOLVE THAT BAD CONNECTION.
>> RIGHT.
"I LOVE THIS GIRL."
>> "L" WORD.
>> "AND I NEED TO KNOW IF MY
DREAMS OF MOVING TO A NEW PLACE
AND HAVING KELSEY THERE WITH ME
ARE REAL.
THIS IS WHY I NEED YOUR HELP."
>> * AM I YOUR GOLDEN GIRL?
>> IT'S DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF
RELATIONSHIPS WE'VE SEEN
IN THE PAST.
>> BUT--
>> THERE'S A CONNECTION ERROR.
>> CONNECTION ERROR.
>> THERE MIGHT BE A BUG IN THIS
RELATIONSHIP.
>> 4-0-4.
THIS PAGE CANNOT LOAD.
>> RIGHT, OOPS.
LET'S DO THIS.
JOHN FROM DETROIT.
>> HERE HE COMES LIVE.
[line trilling]
>> HELLO.
>> HELLO, JOHN.
>> WHAT'S UP, MAN?
>> JUST KIND OF A LITTLE
NERVOUS HERE.
>> OH, REALLY?
>> YEAH.
>> DON'T BE NERVOUS.
>> WHAT'S YOUR SORT OF
DAY-TO-DAY LIKE?
DO YOU HAVE A CORPORATE GIG OR--
>> WELL, I DO I.T. CONSULTING.
I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING TO GET OUT
OF I.T. BECAUSE I'VE BEEN
COMPLETELY BURNT UP BY IT.
I'M LOOKING TO LEAVE THE AREA
AS WELL, AND I'VE ACTUALLY GOT
PLANS TO HEAD OUT WEST TO
SAN DIEGO, TO BE EXACT.
>> NICE.
>> BEFORE I MOVE AND MAKE THIS
BIG STEP, I KIND OF WANT TO KNOW
IF KELSEY IS WITH ME OR IF
I HAVE TO MOVE ON.
>> OKAY, SO YOU MET KELSEY ON A
CHAT ROOM.
>> I TAKE PART IN A LOT OF
PSYCHOLOGY DISCUSSION GROUPS.
PEOPLE ARE TALKING.
THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE
ACTUALLY DOING VIDEO CHAT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A TEXT CHAT
ROOM AT THE BOTTOM.
WE HAD INITIALLY MET ONE ANOTHER
THROUGH ONE OF THOSE DEALS.
SHE WAS ACTUALLY ON THE VOICE
ASPECT.
HER VOICE WAS JUST SO CUTE.
SOMETHING ABOUT IT
JUST STRUCK ME.
AND IT JUST PULLED ME IN, AND
I'M LIKE, "I HAVE TO KNOW WHO
THIS PERSON IS."
>> OKAY, SO YOU INITIATE
DIRECT CONTACT WITH KELSEY, AND
THEN YOU GUYS START
AUDIO-CHATTING?
>> NO, IT'S ACTUALLY ALL
TEXT FROM THAT POINT FORWARD.
>> OH, OKAY.
>> THE ONLY TIME I HEARD HER WAS
THAT INITIAL TIME.
>> THAT'S THE ONLY TIME YOU'VE
EVER HEARD HER VOICE?
>> YES.
>> YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO HER
SINCE THAT FIRST--
>> I HAVE NOT.
>> SO, WHEN YOU STARTED TALKING
KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THE CHAT,
WHAT DID YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT?
>> SEE, NOW, THIS IS WHERE I'M
REALLY DRAWN IN BY THIS GIRL--
THE WAY THAT SHE TALKS AND THE
WAY THAT SHE CAN GO INTO SUCH
DEPTH IN CONVERSATIONS THAT
ARE REALLY MEANINGFUL TO ME.
I CAN SEE MYSELF NEVER BEING
BORED WITHIN DISCUSSIONS.
I LIVE FOR THE DEPTH WITHIN
CONVERSATION, THE GOOD STUFF.
>> IS SHE YOUR GIRLFRIEND?
>> YES.
>> YOU'RE A SMART GUY.
YOU LIVE AND WORK ON THE
INTERNET, AND I WOULD IMAGINE
SOMEONE LIKE YOU IS BRIGHT
ENOUGH TO KNOW ABOUT I.P.
ADDRESS SEARCHING.
HAVE YOU CHECKED INTO
ANY OF THAT?
>> I MEAN, I CAN DO THAT, BUT
WITH HER, IT FEELS DEVIOUS
IN A WAY.
>> DOES SHE HAVE A FACEBOOK OR
AN INSTAGRAM OR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT?
>> NO, NO FACEBOOK.
>> ALL YOU HAVE FOR HER IS A
SCREEN NAME.
>> YES.
IT'S KELSEY BEELZEBUB.
>> BEELZEBUB IS THE
ALIAS OF THE DEVIL.
THIS CASE JUST GOT MORE
INTERESTING.
>> SOUNDS LIKE A TOUGH CASE, BUT
I'M DOWN TO GIVE IT A SHOT.
WE'LL COME AND MEET YOU.
WE'LL TRY TO HELP YOU MEET THIS
GIRL, KELSEY.
>> AWESOME.
I'M READY.
>> SEE YOU SOON, MY MAN.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> LATER, JOHN.
>> LATER.
>> HE'S SO SMART AND SAVVY.
>> LOVE MAKES YOU DUMB.
IT BLINDS YOU, MAKES YOU
IRRATIONAL, MAKES YOU ACCEPT
REALLY WEIRD LIES THAT OTHER
PEOPLE TELL YOU...
>> YEAH.
>> AND JUST TURNS YOU INTO A BIG
BOWL OF MUSH.
>> HE FELL IN LOVE WITH HER
VOICE, AND HE ONLY GOT TO HEAR
IT ONCE.
>> NOTHING SAYS I LOVE YOU LIKE
SHOWING UP AT THE DOOR
WITH NEV SCHULMAN.
>> I KNOW.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> LET'S HIT THE ROAD.
TIME TO GO TO DETROIT.
>> * WELL, LOVE'S SPECTATOR *
>> WE'RE ON THE CASE.
>> * IS A TRAGEDY'S CREATED *
* ANOTHER SHINY GOLD STAR
* RUNS FOR THE SUN
>> SO JOHN--HE'S BASICALLY ABOUT
TO DO A HARD REBOOT OF HIS LIFE.
AND I'M SURE IT BRINGS HIM A LOT
OF COMFORT IF HE COULD START ALL
OVER AGAIN WITH THE PERSON
HE LOVES.
>> * ANOTHER SHINY GOLD STAR
>> IT'S THIS ONE.
LOOK HOW HIGH THIS SNOW PILE IS.
>> * ANOTHER SHINY GOLD STAR
>> WHOO.
>> IT'S LIKE THREE FEET OF SNOW.
>> ALL RIGHT.
[doorbell rings]
[sighs]
HEY.
>> HEY, IT'S JOHN.
>> HEY, GUYS.
>> HEY, DUDE.
HOW YOU DOING?
>> PRETTY GOOD.
YOU GUYS WANT TO GET OUT OF THE
COLD AND COME ON IN?
>> WOW.
VERY NICE.
OH MY GOD.
LOOK AT THAT POOL.
>> COME ON.
IT'S LIKE A SNOWBOARDING
HALF-PIPE RIGHT NOW.
>> THAT IS REALLY COOL.
>> THERE YOU GO.
>> OKAY, SO KELSEY BEELZEBUB--
WHAT STRIKES ME AS INTERESTING
IS THAT YOU SEEM LIKE A REALLY
SMART GUY.
YOU PROBABLY KNOW A LOT MORE
THAN WE DO ABOUT HOW TO GET
AROUND THE INTERNET.
HOW HAVE YOU NOT KIND OF DONE
THE REQUISITE RESEARCH?
IS THAT JUST A BLIND SPOT?
>> IN ALL OF THIS, I'VE KIND OF
BEEN PROVING TO MYSELF, YOU
KNOW, THAT I COULD KILL
PAST HABITS.
I COULD GET KIND OF--JEALOUSY
AND THINGS GET THE BEST OF ME.
>> AND THEN YOU'D, LIKE,
STALK A GIRL.
>> WELL, NOT--I DON'T KNOW ABOUT
ALL THAT, BUT--
>> BUT KIND OF.
>> YEAH.
>> YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO BE GOOD
BY, LIKE, NOT FOLLOWING UP AND
TRYING TO FIND MORE OUT
ABOUT HER.
>> HERE'S ANOTHER THING ABOUT
KELSEY THAT, I MEAN, I HADN'T
REALLY MENTIONED BEFORE.
SHE ACTUALLY HAS BODY DYSMORPHIC
DISORDER.
>> YOU MEAN SHE LOOKS IN THE
MIRROR AND SEES SOMEONE THAT'S
NOT HER.
>> MM-HMM.
WHEN SHE BROUGHT THAT UP, I KIND
OF BACKED OFF IN SAYING, YOU
KNOW, "SEND ME PICTURES OR GET
ON CAM," BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND
THE ISSUES.
>> THE VOICE THING
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
>> THE VOICE.
YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT.
IT'S JUST LIKE, OKAY...
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO?
>> WELL, WHY DON'T YOU SHOW US
WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE?
>> OKAY.
>> WOW.
>> ONE THING I DID DO IS I TOOK
THE IMAGES AND I PUT THEM IN
REVERSE, LIKE, IMAGE SEARCH, AND
THERE WASN'T ANYTHING
WHEN I DID THAT.
SO REALLY IT WAS JUST ME, "OKAY,
GIVE ME MORE," LIKE, MAYBE SHE'S
GOT A PHOTO BOOK, AND I CAN LOOK
AT MORE OF THEM.
AND JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE
I WAS KIND OF WAS LIKE, "YEAH,
GIVE ME MORE, GIVE ME MORE,
GIVE ME MORE," YOU KNOW?
>> THEY DON'T REALLY LOOK LIKE
PHOTOS OF A GIRL WHO SEEMS THAT
INSECURE ABOUT HERSELF.
>> YEAH. I MEAN, BODY DYSMORPHIC
DISORDER--I KNOW IT HOW IT
MANIFESTS.
I KNOW HOW SOME DAYS, THEY
MIGHT, YOU KNOW--THEY MIGHT SEE
SOMETHING THAT'S OKAY,
AND SOMETIMES THEY MIGHT BE
HORRIFIED AT IT.
>> RIGHT.
>> I KIND OF FELT LIKE I NEED
TO BE THERE FOR HER
IN ANY CAPACITY.
YOU KNOW, I DO CARE FOR HER IN
THAT WAY.
>> HAVE YOU GUYS DABBLED IN THE
DARK ARTS OF, UH, SEXTING?
>> WELL, I'VE SENT HER A DICK
PIC ONCE.
>> WITH YOUR FACE IN IT?
>> NO.
I'M NOT THAT FOOLISH.
>> YOU SENT HER A DICK PIC?
>> YES.
>> YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE
HER PHONE NUMBER.
>> I WAS IN THE MOOD.
>> WHAT DID SHE SAY?
>> WE JUST KIND OF CONTINUED ON
WITH OUR--WITH OUR CHATTING.
>> SHE DIDN'T RECIPROCATE?
>> NO.
>> THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A GOOD
THING, THE FACT THAT SHE MAYBE
WAS MORE COY MAYBE MEANS
THAT IT REALLY IS HER.
>> YOU CAN SEE WHAT LITTLE I'M
WORKING WITH.
>> IS IT FRUSTRATING,
HAVING SO LITTLE?
>> IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING.
IT'S THIS ELEMENT OF NOT KNOWING
THAT'S SO SCARY TO ME AND, YOU
KNOW, THE FEAR OF PUSHING HER
AWAY.
>> WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO
EXPLORING A RELATIONSHIP WITH
SOMEONE WHO WASN'T THE PERSON IN
THOSE PICTURES?
>> THAT WOULD REALLY DEPEND ON
WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE OPENED
PANDORA'S BOX.
IT'S LIKE, I NEED TO KNOW ONE
WAY OR ANOTHER IF I'M GETTING
DUPED OR IF THIS CAN GO FORWARD,
SO...
>> WOULD YOU BE HEARTBROKEN IF
THIS DIDN'T WORK OUT?
>> YEAH.
I THINK I WOULD.
>> * I CAN'T KEEP LEARNING *
* THE SAME LESSONS OVER AGAIN
* I KEEP LEARNING THE SAME
* LESSONS OVER
>> THERE'S DEFINITELY A CHANCE.
>> MM-HMM.
>> WE'LL SEE, AS WE INVESTIGATE,
IF THAT CHANCE INCREASES OR
DECREASES.
BUT I'M PULLING FOR YOU.
ALL RIGHT, DUDE.
>> JOHN.
>> I HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON.
>> ALL RIGHT, MY MAN.
>> SEE YOU, EVERYBODY.
>> HE'S A VERY SMART GUY.
HE MUST REALLY BE IN LOVE WITH
THIS GIRL IN ORDER TO BASICALLY
OVERLOOK ALL THE VERY OBVIOUS
RED FLAGS.
>> RIGHT.
>> IT DOESN'T HOW SMART YOU ARE.
THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE.
>> * I JUST KEEP LEARNING
* THE SAME LESSONS OVER AGAIN
>> WE GOT A SMART GUY...
>> BUT A LITTLE LONELY.
>> NAMED JOHN...
>> LITTLE LONELY.
>> WHO KIND OF LIVES IN HIS
CYBER WORLD.
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT HE
MEETS A BEAUTIFUL GIRL IN A
SKYPE CHAT ROOM ABOUT
PSYCHOLOGY?
>> THIS GIRL HAS GIVEN HIM SOME
PRETTY BOGUS EXCUSES.
I MEAN, BODY DYSMORPHIC
DISORDER--THAT'S A REAL THING,
BUT--
>> YES, BUT IT'S HYPOCRITICAL
FOR HER TO SEND IMAGES
IN A BATHING SUIT.
SHE'S SHOWING OFF HER BODY.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE DEALING
WITH A PRETTY CLEAR CASE OF
CATFISHING.
>> WE DON'T HAVE A LOT TO GO ON.
WE GOT KELSEY BEELZEBUB.
>> AND SOME PHOTOS.
HE SENT US THIS EMAIL.
"HERE'S THE INFORMATION I HAVE
ON KELSEY."
LET'S JUST DOUBLE-CHECK
HIS IMAGE SEARCH, BECAUSE
WHO KNOWS?
IMAGE ONE, KELSEY.
IMAGE NUMBER TWO.
COME ON.
NO MATCH.
WE SHOULD MESSAGE ALL THE
CURRENT MEMBERS OF THIS
CHAT ROOM...
>> YEAH.
>> AND JUST SAY, "HEY,
QUICK QUESTION--
DO ANY OF YOU KNOW OF A GIRL
NAMED KELSEY BEELZEBUB?"
>> YEAH.
>> HERE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
IN THE GROUP.
WE'LL COPY/PASTE IT TO
EVERYBODY.
>> OKAY, OKAY.
>> I'M SENDING THIS TO AARON.
HEY, AARON.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> ADAM THE GAMBLER.
>> PINKKO_MOON.
>> ELLIE.
>> CEE_N_OWENS.
>> SENT.
>> WAITING.
>> both: WHOA.
>> WE GOT A MESSAGE BACK--
BACK FROM AARON.
>> WHY DON'T WE VIDEO-CHAT?
[line trilling]
>> HELLO?
>> YEAH, HEY, MAN.
>> HEY, AARON.
>> HELLO.
>> WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY A
GIRL.
YOU DON'T KNOW A
KELSEY BEELZEBUB, BY ANY CHANCE,
FROM THAT GROUP, DO YOU?
>> YEAH.
WE, UM--WE CHAT.
WE DON'T VIDEO-CHAT OR CALL
OR ANYTHING.
BUT, YEAH, WE TALK.
>> HOW OFTEN DO YOU TALK?
>> EVERY DAY, AT LEAST, LIKE--
>> WOW. JUST A PRIVATE
CONVERSATION BETWEEN YOU GUYS?
>> YEAH.
>> ARE YOU GUYS, LIKE,
INTO EACH OTHER?
>> I DON'T THINK SO.
IT'S MORE LIKE JUST A
FRIENDSHIP.
>> AND HAS SHE EVER TOLD YOU
ANYTHING PERSONAL ABOUT HERSELF?
>> SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE HAD
SOMETHING CALLED BODY
"DEMORPHIA."
>> HAVE YOU SEEN PICTURES
OF HER?
>> MM-MM.
WELL, SHE HAS ONE ON HER
PROFILE.
>> RIGHT.
>> BUT YOU NEVER VIDEO-CHAT.
>> NO.
>> BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T LIKE TO
BE SEEN?
>> I DO KNOW THAT SHE HAS
ANXIETY.
ADAM TOLD ME SHE HAD ANXIETY.
>> ADAM THE GAMBLER.
>> YES.
>> IS IT THE YOUNG ANXIETY CLUB?
>> UH, YEAH.
UM, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE REASON
WHY I JOINED THE SKYPE GROUP,
WAS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT
I HAD ANXIETY.
>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, COOL.
MAYBE WE'LL BE IN TOUCH.
BUT OTHERWISE, THANK YOU.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> THIS IS KIND OF LIKE THE
SOCIALLY ANXIOUS GROUP.
>> THAT DEFINITELY GIVES A
LITTLE BIT MORE VALIDITY
TO HER STORY.
>> YEAH.
>> WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR BACK
FROM, LIKE, TEN PEOPLE FROM
THAT GROUP.
I THINK WE COULD WAIT NOW, SEE
IF WE HEAR BACK FROM ANYBODY,
AND SORT OF DIVE BACK IN
TOMORROW MORNING.
I'M CLOSING--I'M CLOSING DOWN.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> LOOKS LIKE LATE LAST NIGHT
WE MAY HAVE RECEIVED A MESSAGE
FROM ELLIE.
>> LET'S SEE.
>> "HEY.
HA HA HA, I DON'T LIVE IN
THE UNITED STATES,
SO THAT MIGHT BE A PROBLEM.
BUT SURE, I WOULD LOVE
TO VIDEO-CALL."
>> WHERE IS SHE?
>> FAROE ISLANDS?
>> WHERE ARE THE FAROE ISLANDS?
>> OH, MY GOD.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
>> IT'S, LIKE, A SMALL GROUP OF
ISLANDS BETWEEN
THE UNITED KINGDOM AND ICELAND.
LET'S VIDEO-CALL.
[line trilling]
>> HELLO.
>> HELLO, ELLIE.
>> HI.
>> HOW ARE YOU?
>> WHERE ARE YOU?
>> WOW.
WE'RE IN DETROIT, MICHIGAN.
>> HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO THE
U.S.?
>> WAIT.
ADAM FROM THE GROUP?
ADAM THE GAMBLER?
>> YEAH.
>> DO YOU KNOW OR DO YOU EVER
TALK TO ANYBODY, UM...
WHAT'S HIS USER NAME?
>> REVELATOR?
>> REVELATOR?
HE'S PART OF THE GROUP TOO.
REALLY?
>> MM-HMM.
>> DO YOU KNOW KELSEY?
WHEN YOU TALK TO KELSEY, IS IT
TYPING, OR IS IT LIKE THIS?
YOU VIDEO WITH ADAM.
WHO ELSE DO YOU VIDEO WITH?
OH, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ADAM?
>> NO.
>> REALLY?
>> YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HE LOOKS
LIKE?
>> WOW.
WHY HAVEN'T YOU VIDEO-CHATTED?
IT'S CRAZY THAT, YOU KNOW, TWO
DIFFERENT COUPLES FROM THIS CHAT
ROOM ARE EXPERIENCING VERY
SIMILAR RELATIONSHIPS.
IF YOU SPEAK TO ADAM, TELL HIM
YOU WANT TO VIDEO-CHAT.
OKAY.
>> LET US KNOW HOW IT GOES
VIDEO-CHATTING WITH ADAM.
>> both: OH.
>> I GUESS WE'RE GOOD.
>> THAT'S HOW THEY SAY GOOD-BYE
IN THE FAROE ISLANDS.
>> HERE'S A REALLY CUTE YOUNG
GIRL WHO'S SMART AND INTERESTING
AND ON THIS CHAT ROOM.
SO ALREADY IT PROVES THAT THAT
CAN HAPPEN.
>> THEY'RE ALL SUFFERING FROM
SOME SORT OF SOCIAL ANXIETY, AND
SO, GENERALLY, ASKING PEOPLE TO
VIDEO-CHAT IS NOT DONE.
IT'S AMAZING.
IT'S A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE FROM
ALL AROUND THE WORLD WHO ARE
MORE OR LESS THE SAME AGE
TALKING ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY
AND THE BRAIN.
>> AND THEN MEETING EACH OTHER
AND FALLING IN LOVE.
[cell phone chimes]
>> OH.
>> OOH, TEXT FROM OUR GUY.
"HEY, NEV.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU
MIGHT HAVE HAD ANY SUCCESS
FINDING ANYTHING OUT PERTAINING
TO KELSEY."
"PROBABLY BEST TO MEET UP
AND DISCUSS."
>> I MEAN, IF ANYTHING, IT ALL
POINTS TO THE POSITIVE.
>> SO THERE'S A CHANCE THAT
KELSEY IS WHO SHE SAYS SHE IS.
>> ALL RIGHT.
HERE'S WHAT'S UP.
WE WENT THROUGH THAT LIST THAT
YOU SENT US OF ALL THE MEMBERS
OF THE PSYCHOLOGY GROUP.
AND WE REACHED OUT TO EACH ONE.
LAST NIGHT WE SPOKE TO AARON.
HE SAID HE KNEW KELSEY
FROM THE GROUP.
>> HE KNEW THAT SHE HAD BODY
DYSMORPHIC DISORDER.
>> IT'S GOOD TO HEAR THAT.
>> THE NEXT PERSON WE HEARD BACK
FROM WAS ELLIE.
SHE'S AWESOME.
>> YEAH, SHE'S A COOL GIRL.
I DID HAVE AN INTEREST THERE AT
SOME POINT.
>> WE ASKED HER WHAT SHE KNOWS
ABOUT KELSEY.
>> SHE SAID THEY BECAME FRIENDS.
THEY WERE TALKING A BUNCH
BACK AND FORTH.
>> ELLIE IS GOING OUT WITH
ADAM...
>> OKAY.
>> FROM THE GROUP.
AND INTERESTINGLY, ELLIE AND
ADAM HAVE BEEN DATING NOW,
LIKE, SINCE NOVEMBER.
AND SHE'S NEVER VIDEO-CHATTED
WITH HIM.
AND SHE'S SUPER COMFORTABLE
VIDEO-CHATTING.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SHE GOT RIGHT
ON WITH US.
AS YOU CAN SEE, SHE'S PRETTY AND
SEEMS VERY CONFIDENT.
BUT THE MORE IMPORTANT POINT IS
TWO OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS CHAT
ROOM HAVE TALKED TO KELSEY, AND
EVERYTHING SEEMS TO LINE UP.
SO THERE'S A CHANCE THAT KELSEY
IS WHO SHE SAYS SHE IS.
>> OKAY, THAT'S GOOD.
I MEAN, I'M JUST KIND OF LIKE,
WHEW.
I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW MORE.
>> THE MAIN GOAL IS TO JUST
SET UP A MEETING.
>> LET'S REACH OUT AND SEE IF
SHE GETS BACK TO US.
"THIS IS NEV FROM THE MTV SHOW
CATFISH.
I AM WITH YOUR FRIEND JOHN,
AND WE WOULD LOVE TO CHAT."
OKAY, YOU COOL WITH THIS?
>> YEAH.
>> ALL RIGHT. SENT.
NOW IT'S JUST A WAITING GAME.
>> DID WE GET ANYTHING BACK
FROM KELSEY?
>> SHE ACCEPTED OUR CONTACT
REQUEST AND THEN WROTE, "I WILL
CHAT WITH YOU, BUT I FEEL MORE
COMFORTABLE CHATTING OVER TEXT
CHAT."
WE'VE MADE CONTACT.
>> YEAH, SHE'S GOTTEN BACK TO
US.
>> SO I'LL TYPE BACK TO HER AND
SAY, "WE WOULD LOVE TO TALK TO
YOU A LITTLE ABOUT YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH JOHN."
[computer beeps]
>> "JOHN IS A REALLY
AMAZING GUY.
HE MEANS EVERYTHING TO ME."
>> "WE WERE INTERESTED TO KNOW
HOW YOU WOULD FEEL ABOUT MEETING
UP WITH HIM."
[computer beeps]
WOW.
"I WOULD LOVE TO MEET HIM, BUT
I'M VERY ANXIOUS.
I'M AFRAID OF WHAT HE WILL
THINK OF ME."
BITEY LIP, NERVOUS FACE.
"I HAVE BODY DYSMORPHIC
DISORDER.
ONLINE FEELS A LOT SAFER FOR
ME."
"MIGHT BE A REALLY GOOD STEP TO
TAKE TOWARD LETTING YOURSELF
BE LOVED."
[computer beeps]
>> WOW.
GURU NEV.
[computer beeps]
OH, HERE WE GO, HERE WE GO.
>> OH, WOW.
"YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT.
I LONG TO BE LOVED BY SOMEONE.
I JUST WANT TO GET AWAY FROM IT
ALL."
"WOULD YOU BE AVAILABLE
AS SOON AS TOMORROW?"
[computer beeps]
"I CAN DO TOMORROW.
I WILL MAKE SURE I BUY SOMETHING
NICE AT THE MALL SO I CAN LOOK
MY BEST FOR HIM.
I LIVE IN ORLANDO."
BAM, WE GOT AN ADDRESS.
>> NEV, THE CLOSER.
>> ALL RIGHT.
[line trilling]
LET'S GIVE OUR MAN A CALL,
LET HIM KNOW.
>> HELLO?
>> YO.
>> HEY, WHAT'S UP?
>> HEY, MAN. GOOD MORNING.
WE WERE JUST TALKING
WITH KELSEY.
I TOLD HER THAT YOU WANT
TO MEET HER.
SHE'S VERY NERVOUS.
SHE'S AFRAID.
SHE'S FREAKING OUT, BUT...
SHE WANTS TO MEET UP.
>> INTERESTING.
>> IF WE GO DOWN THERE AND WE
CHASE THIS KELSEY, WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT WE'RE GONNA FIND.
IF YOU WANT--
>> * OH, LET'S GO DOWN *
* IN THE MOMENT
* WE'RE LOST AND FOUND *
>> I THINK WE SHOULD JUST SORT
OF CATCH THE NEXT FLIGHT OUT OF
HERE TO ORLANDO.
ALL RIGHT, COOL.
>> * FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES
>> ALL RIGHT, HERE WE ARE.
LOOK AT THIS GUY.
>> BONE CHARM.
>> YEAH?
IS THAT A GOOD-LUCK THING?
>> AND PASSION.
>> HOW ARE YOU FEELING?
>> ANXIOUS.
>> WHAT IF IT IS HER?
>> THAT'S [bleep] SWEET, THEN.
>> THEN WHAT HAPPENS?
>> THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE
NEXT STEP.
I'M TRYING TO KEEP MY WITS ABOUT
ME, KEEP MYSELF FROM FALLING
APART.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> READY?
>> GOT IT?
I'LL GRAB THIS.
>> GOT YA.
>> YOUR CHARIOT AWAITS.
>> * BEEN AROUND THIS TOWN
* FOR WAY TOO LONG
* I THINK IT'S TIME *
* IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING *
* OH, OH
>> I'M ABLE TO GIVE SOMEBODY THE
BEST VERSION OF MYSELF
THAN I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
IN THE PAST.
THE FACT THAT SHE DOES DISCUSS
HER VULNERABILITIES SO OPENLY--
IT TAKES A STRONG PERSON
TO DO THAT.
>> * OH, OH, OH
* IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING *
*
>> IT'S GONNA BE ON THE RIGHT
SIDE.
2-1-6.
>> IT'S THE NEXT ONE.
>> 3-2.
THIS IS BACK IN THE 3s NOW.
WOULD IT BE--
>> DID I PASS IT?
>> WHAT'S GOING ON HERE NOW?
>> MAYBE I PASSED IT.
DID WE GET IT WRONG?
THIS IS IT.
THIS IS THE RIGHT SPOT, IF THE
ADDRESS SHE GAVE US IS CORRECT.
>> THERE IS A WEIRD EMPTY LOT.
>> MAYBE THAT'S 2-2-8.
>> WHAT ABOUT THIS MAILBOX?
DOES THAT SAY ANYTHING ON IT?
>> JUMP OUT.
WHAT DID IT SAY ON IT?
>> IT SAYS NOTHING ON IT.
>> SHE'S ONLINE.
LET'S MESSAGE HER AND SEE WHAT
SHE SAYS.
"HEY, THERE IS...
NO HOUSE HERE."
>> I DON'T LIKE THIS.
>> OH, HERE, WAIT.
SHE WROTE BACK.
"I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU
WERE REALLY HERE."
>> IS SHE LOOKING THROUGH THE
FENCE OR SOMETHING?
>> "I'M ACTUALLY AT A LOCAL
CAFE."
>> WHAT THE [bleep] IS THAT?
>> SO SHE'S REALLY SCARED, BUT
NOW IT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION
HERE.
THE TEMPERATURE JUST CHANGED
THERE.
>> WHOEVER THIS IS, THEY'VE BEEN
HIDING FOR A LONG TIME.
LOOKS LIKE KELSEY JUST SORT OF
WANTS TO MESS AROUND.
>> I JUST GOT BUMPED UP FROM
YELLOW TO ORANGE ALERT.
>> THERE'S THE CAFE.
IT'S IN THERE.
SHE GAVE US AN ADDRESS.
>> IT'S NOT A CAFE.
IT'S A BUSINESS CENTER.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE A BUNCH OF
[bleep] BULL[bleep] NOW,
JUST A BUNCH OF [bleep]
BULL[bleep].
>> [sighs]
LET'S GO IN.
LET'S SCOPE IT OUT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
YOU CAN GAMBLE IN HERE TOO.
IT'S LIKE A CASINO.
>> IT'S A CASINO?
>> YEAH.
OH, MY GOD.
>> LET'S SEE.
>> HEY, BRO.
HOW'S IT GOING?
MY NAME'S KELSEY.
I'M ADAM THE GAMBLER.
>> OH, WOW.
>> [chuckles]
>> SO WHAT'S YOUR ENDGAME HERE?
>> JUST TO HAVE FUN WITH YOU,
MAN.
THAT WAS IT, YOU KNOW.
IT WAS A GAME.
IT'S OVER NOW.
>> SO THIS IS ALL JUST FUN AND
GAMES?
>> YEAH, REALLY, IT IS.
YEAH.
>> IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE MORE
MEANINGFUL THAT YOU THINK YOU
PROVED WITH THIS?
>> NO.
THERE'S NO DEEPER MEANING TO ANY
OF THIS.
>> WHOSE PICTURES ARE YOU USING?
>> ACTUALLY, A GIRL I KNOW FROM
HIGH SCHOOL.
>> DO YOU HAVE A JOB?
ARE YOU IN SCHOOL?
>> YEAH.
THIS IS LIKE MY JOB RIGHT NOW.
I'LL GO HERE.
I TIME THE JACKPOT, SO I'LL JUST
DO WHATEVER I WANT ON MY PHONE,
TIME THE JACKPOT, WIN ABOUT
60 BUCKS FOR THE NIGHT, GO HOME.
>> HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU'RE GONNA
WIN THE JACKPOT?
>> I HAVE AN ALGORITHM, YOU SEE?
I COUNT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN
HERE, RIGHT?
AND THEN I HAVE, LIKE, ALL THE
TIMES ON MY PHONE.
I CAN EVEN SHOW YOU THAT.
I HAVE ALL THE TIMES THAT
THEY'VE EVER GONE OFF.
>> HE'S RIGGED IT.
>> YEAH.
IN BETWEEN JACKPOTS, THERE'S,
LIKE, A TRANSITION PERIOD WHERE
YOU'RE WAITING FOR THE THING.
I LOG IN HERE, PRETEND TO BE
KELSEY, TALK TO HIM A WHILE.
IT WAS JUST SOMETHING TO DO TO
PASS THE TIME.
>> DID YOU CREATE THAT
PSYCHOLOGY GROUP TO LURE PEOPLE
IN TO THEN, LIKE, MESS WITH THEM
AND CARRY ON FAKE RELATIONSHIPS
WITH?
>> I TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT
THAT I HAD THIS GROUP UP, YEAH.
LET'S ADD THIS OTHER ACCOUNT OF
MINE IN THERE, AND LET'S SEE WHO
WE CAN MESS WITH, YOU KNOW.
>> HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU THINK
YOU'VE CATFISHED?
>> I WOULD SAY ABOUT MAYBE 30,
40, AROUND THERE.
IT'S JUST INTERESTING TO ME AND
FUN.
>> IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH
ELLIE SOMETHING THAT YOU EVEN
CARE ABOUT?
>> OR ARE YOU JUST USING HER?
>> OH, NO, I CARE ABOUT ELLIE.
YOU KNOW, SHE'S MY GIRLFRIEND.
IT'S NOT A COVER-UP
OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE GENUINE
FEELINGS FOR HER.
>> I'VE TALKED TO ELLIE BEFORE--
SWEET GIRL, AMAZING GIRL.
WHAT IN THE [bleep] WORLD
MAKES YOU THINK YOU'RE GETTING
ANYWHERE WITH THAT?
>> I CAN JUSTIFY ANYTHING.
I CAN JUSTIFY ANYTHING.
>> SO HOW'D YOU LIKE MY DICK
PIC?
>> THAT WAS, UH, INTERESTING.
THANK YOU FOR SENDING IT TO ME.
I REALLY WANT THAT ON MY
COMPUTER.
>> YOU'RE JERKING YOURSELF OFF
TO THIS [bleep]?
>> [laughs]
NO, I DELETED IT QUICKLY AFTER.
>> DID YOU JUST WAKE UP THIS
MORNING AND SAY, "YOU KNOW WHAT,
I WANT TO PLAY A BAD GUY ON TV,
I JUST WANT TO BE THE WORST
VERSION OF MYSELF THAT I CAN
BE"?
IS THAT WHAT YOU DECIDED?
>> YEAH, THAT WAS WHAT I--
THAT'S--
>> I MEAN, IS THIS REALLY WHO
YOU ARE RIGHT NOW?
>> THIS IS REALLY WHO I AM.
I'M THE JOKER.
>> I MEAN--
>> THIS IS THE KIND OF LOSER
THAT GIVES OUR SHOW A BAD NAME.
I MEAN, WE'RE REALLY SITTING
HERE GIVING HIM ANY AIRTIME?
>> I'M THE KING OF CATFISHES,
RIGHT?
>> NO, YOU'RE NOT.
>> I AM. I AM THE KING CATFISH.
>> YOU'RE REALLY NOT.
>> I AM.
>> I'M DONE HERE.
I'M DONE.
I'M DONE.
>> IT'S JUST A BIG WASTE.
THAT'S ALL.
I MEAN, I KIND OF, YOU KNOW,
EXPECTED THIS AS A SCENARIO
HERE, SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT
IT'S SOME KIND OF INTERNET TROLL
OF SOME SORT.
YOU LIVE, AND YOU LEARN,
AND YOU WON'T MAKE THE SAME
MISTAKE TWICE.
>> IS THAT THE REACTION YOU WERE
HOPING FOR?
>> NO, NO, IT'S NOT, ACTUALLY.
I WAS REALLY HOPING THAT YOU'D
GET REALLY ANGRY.
I WANTED TO BOIL YOU.
BUT IT DIDN'T SEEM TO HAPPEN
THAT WAY.
IT'S TOO BAD.
>> I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU THINK
YOU'RE THIS SORT OF MASTERMIND.
>> RIGHT.
>> BUT IT'S GONNA BE A LONG AND
BORING AND SORT OF MEANINGLESS
LIFE.
>> I HAVE A GOOD--YOU KNOW,
A GOOD JOB, A GOOD LIFE.
I'M HAPPY WITH MYSELF.
>> FINE.
>> I CAN SAY THAT.
I CAN MANIPULATE THIS FOOL RIGHT
HERE AND SAY THAT I'M HAPPY
WITH MYSELF.
>> IT'S [bleep] PITIFUL, MAN.
IT'S PITIFUL.
>> [laughs]
>> OKAY, I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH
FOOTAGE.
>> [laughs]
>> * WE SLOWLY FALL FROM GRACE
* WE SLOWLY FADE AWAY
>> OH, [bleep].
*
YOU GAVE HIM THE ROPE.
HE HUNG HIMSELF.
>> RIGHT.
>> LET'S GO CALL ELLIE.
*
[line trilling]
>> WE CAME ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE
TO MEET KELSEY.
IT TURNS OUT...
KELSEY IS REALLY ADAM.
>> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF ALL THAT?
I THINK YOU GUYS NEED TO HAVE
A TALK.
>> ADAM THOUGHT HE WOULD GET TO
SORT OF LAUGH AND ENJOY IT
AND WATCH SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW,
GET THEIR HEART BROKEN OR BE
EMBARRASSED, AND THEN IT WOULD
JUST SORT OF BE, LIKE, CLICK,
ON TO THE NEXT.
>> I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE TRYING
TO DO HERE?
ARE WE TRYING TO GET HIM TO
STOP?
>> WELL, I'D LIKE HIM TO REALIZE
THAT WHAT HE DOES ACTUALLY HAS
REAL-WORLD EFFECT.
>> HE DEFINITELY IS STARTING
VERY REAL RELATIONSHIPS
WITH THESE PEOPLE.
HE DOESN'T QUITE REALIZE HOW
THIS IS ALL GONNA BITE HIM IN
THE ASS.
>> THAT'S FOR SURE.
[knock at door]
>> COME ON IN.
>> HAVE YOU THOUGHT ANY MORE
ABOUT IT?
>> OF COURSE I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT
IT.
IT SUCKS TO LOSE IT, TO REALIZE
THAT IT NEVER REALLY EXISTED IN
THE FIRST PLACE.
THE WOUND IS THERE.
THE PAIN IS THERE.
BUT I CAN CHANNEL THAT ENERGY IN
A CONSTRUCTIVE WAY AND NOT A
DESTRUCTIVE WAY.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU WANT TO
SAY TO HIM?
>> I JUST WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS.
WHY?
GET TO THE ACTUAL "WHY,"
PERHAPS.
>> LET'S CALL ADAM.
[line trilling]
>> HELLO?
>> HELLO, ADAM?
>> HEY.
>> WE WERE WONDERING IF YOU WERE
INTERESTED IN MEETING UP WITH
US?
OKAY.
THANKS.
>> JOHN, NEV, UM, HEY.
>> WHY DON'T YOU HAVE A SEAT
THERE?
>> THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
>> THE WAY I ACTED YESTERDAY...
IT WAS REALLY JUST ALL A FACADE.
THAT'S NOT REALLY HOW I AM.
>> SO THEN WHY DID YOU DO
ALL THIS?
>> RIGHT.
>> BECAUSE IT OFFERED ME, YOU
KNOW, ADVANTAGES IN TERMS OF
BEING--HIM NOT BEING ABLE TO HIT
ON ELLIE.
I JUST THOUGHT JOHN WAS THIS GUY
WHO JUST WANTED TO JOIN THE
GROUP SO THAT HE COULD, LIKE,
HIT ON GIRLS.
LIKE, I THOUGHT HE WOULD, LIKE,
HIT ON ELLIE OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT.
>> DID YOU SEE COMPETITION
IN ME?
>> A LITTLE BIT, YEAH.
>> OKAY, NOW IT'S STARTING
TO MAKE SENSE HERE.
>> YEAH.
I MEAN, I CREATED HER SO THAT HE
COULDN'T APPROACH ELLIE.
>> WERE THERE OTHER GUYS FROM
THE CHAT GROUP THAT YOU DID THIS
TO KEEP THEM AWAY FROM ELLIE?
>> MM-HMM. YEAH.
I WOULD FLIRT WITH, YOU KNOW,
OTHER GUYS.
>> WAS THERE EVER A KELSEY
VOICE?
>> YEAH, ACTUALLY.
I USED A YOUTUBE RECORDING, AND
THEN I PLAYED IT THROUGH THE
MICROPHONE.
>> WHY ARE YOU TALKING TO ELLIE
AS KELSEY?
>> I HAD KELSEY TELL ELLIE TO
MAKE AN OK CUPID PROFILE SO
I COULD GET HER QUESTIONS AND
STUFF LIKE THAT SO I'D BE ABLE
TO SEDUCE HER AS MY ADAM
ACCOUNT BY KNOWING INFORMATION
ABOUT HER.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE HER
FEEL LIKE SHE COULD RELATE TO
ME.
I WANTED TO MAKE HER FEEL LIKE
SHE HAD THAT SENSE OF
CONNECTION.
BUT YESTERDAY I TRIED TO
CONTACT HER.
I CONTACT HER EVERY DAY, BUT
YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST DAY THAT
SHE NEVER REPLIED TO ME ALL DAY.
I TRIED AS SOON AS I GOT HOME
UNTIL THE TIME I WENT TO BED.
SO I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW,
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING--
>> MAYBE A TASTE OF YOUR OWN
MEDICINE.
>> DID YOU FEEL A NEED TO
SABOTAGE MY RELATIONSHIP WITH
HER?
>> WE DIDN'T SABOTAGE ANYTHING.
WE SIMPLY TOLD HER WHAT YOU DID.
SHE NOW HAS THE DECISION TO DO
WHATEVER SHE WANTS.
>> RIGHT, BUT--
>> I MEAN, DID YOU CONSIDER HOW
DEEPLY YOU CARED ABOUT YOUR
GIRLFRIEND BEFORE YOU WENT ON AS
THE UBER-VILLAIN THAT YOU WERE
SO EXCITED TO BE AND HOW MAYBE
THAT WOULD CHANGE HER
PERCEPTION OF YOU?
>> YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST A ROLE.
>> YOU GOT TO DROP THE EGO, MAN.
JUST ADMIT, YOU KNOW, "HEY,
I [bleep] UP."
>> YEAH, OKAY, I DID.
>> AT THE END OF THE DAY,
YOU DIDN'T DO THIS TO US.
YOU DID IT TO JOHN.
AND JOHN'S BEEN VERY QUIET.
AND I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT
HE'S THINKING RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M GONNA REMOVE MYSELF
FROM THIS TABLE.
I THINK THAT YOU AND JOHN NEED
TO HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT'S
SEPARATE FROM US.
>> OKAY.
>> SO I'M GONNA SAY GOOD-BYE.
>> I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO
SAY TO YOU.
I'M DEALING WITH A LOT.
>> I FEEL A LOT OF, UH--
I FEEL A LOT OF GUILT, REALLY,
FOR DOING THIS TO YOU.
>> I'M GLAD THAT YOU FEEL
GUILTY.
I'M GLAD THAT YOU FEEL GUILTY.
>> ALL RIGHT, I'M GETTING ELLIE
ON VIDEO CHAT.
[line trilling]
HI, ELLIE.
>> HEY, WHAT'S UP?
>> HOW ARE YOU?
YOU DESERVE ANSWERS, AND THIS IS
YOUR CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS.
>> THIS EPISODE OF
CATFISH: THE TV SHOW
CONTINUES NOW.
>> WE THOUGHT THE BEST THING TO
DO WOULD JUST BE TO LET ADAM
TALK TO YOU AND EXPLAIN
IT TO YOU.
SO, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT,
WE CAN BRING YOU RIGHT NOW
TO TALK TO HIM.
ALL RIGHT, SO I'M GONNA BRING
YOU INSIDE.
>> I DON'T DEAL IN ANGER AND
NEGATIVE ENERGY.
SO I CAN'T HATE YOU.
AND I KNOW, BASED ON OUR
CONVERSATIONS, WHAT KIND OF MIND
YOU'VE GOT.
YOU ARE--YOU'RE [bleep] BRIGHT.
YOU'RE SMART.
YOU KNOW YOUR [bleep].
JUST PUT IT IN THE RIGHT
CONTEXT.
>> SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
SINCE YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT
WHAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SAID
TO ELLIE, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR
YOU JUST TO EXPLAIN FOR
YOURSELF.
SO WE'VE GOT HER HERE.
>> OH, MY GOD.
HEY, ELLIE.
YEAH?
RIGHT.
IT'S REALLY UPSETTING TO ME TO
EVEN TALK TO YOU LIKE THIS.
OH, MY GOD.
OKAY.
YEAH, IT'S TRUE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M KELSEY.
I MADE KELSEY BECAUSE I REALLY
JUST--I WANTED TO GET TO KNOW
YOU MORE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS--I WAS
AFRAID, I GUESS, TO JUST TALK TO
YOU AS ADAM.
SO ORIGINALLY I TALKED TO YOU AS
KELSEY.
I WANTED TO LEARN MORE ABOUT
YOU.
I HAD NO INTENTION OF EVER
MANIPULATING YOU OR ANYTHING
LIKE THAT.
I ALWAYS HAD YOUR BEST INTEREST
IN MIND.
LIKE, I CARE ABOUT YOU SO MUCH.
LIKE, I KNOW IT DOESN'T SEEM
THAT WAY, BUT IT'S TRUE.
UM...
WELL, HERE'S THE THING.
I THOUGHT JOHN WOULD TRY TO COME
ON TO YOU BECAUSE HE WAS IN THE
GROUP, YOU KNOW.
YEAH, PRETTY MUCH.
YEAH.
I'M SORRY I GOT YOU INTO THIS.
I'M EVEN MORE SORRY THAT I KIND
OF HAVE, LIKE, YOU KNOW,
I GUESS, CATFISHED YOU
WITH KELSEY, IF YOU WANT
TO CALL IT THAT.
THIS IS ME, YOU KNOW,
JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU,
TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING OUT.
BYE.
>> ALL RIGHT, SAY GOOD-BYE TO
THIS PERSON, AND WE'RE GONNA
LEAVE.
>> BYE, JOHN.
SEE YA.
>> ADIOS.
EXCUSE ME.
>> * BUILDING DREAMS
* JUST KEEP DANCING
* TILL THE MUSIC STOPS
* BUILDING DREAMS
* WE'RE BUILDING DREAMS *
>> YOU FEELING ANYTHING NOW?
>> OH, I'M FEELING A LOT.
>> WOW.
WHAT A DAY.
>> DEFINITELY RILED ME UP.
>> YOU HANDLED YOURSELF WELL,
YOU KNOW, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT HE
MAKES YOU ANGRY.
>> I FEEL BAD THAT I DID GET
ANGRY, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE
I SHOULD EXPECT MORE
OUT OF MYSELF.
>> IT'S GOOD TO FEEL ANGER.
>> YOU'D BE INHUMAN IF WHAT HE
WAS SAYING DIDN'T RILE YOU UP IN
SOME WAY.
>> WELL, IT DEFINITELY MAKES MY
CHOICES FROM HERE ON OUT EASIER.
WHEN I MOVE, I DON'T HAVE ANY
DISTRACTIONS NOW.
>> NICE JOB, BUDDY.
>> THANKS, GUYS.
>> * THINK ABOUT YOU
* ALL THE TIME
[line trilling]
>> HELLO, ADAM.
>> HEY, NEV.
HOW'S IT GOING?
>> I SEE YOU'RE NOW ADAM THE
TRAVELER.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
ACTUALLY, I'M IN LOS ANGELES
RIGHT NOW.
>> REALLY?
YOU MOVED TO CALIFORNIA?
>> WELL, NOT REALLY MOVED.
I'M COUCH SURFING AT THE MOMENT.
BUT I'M GONNA BE HERE FOR
A COUPLE MONTHS.
I'M TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, REALIZE
MY DREAMS OF BECOMING A WRITER
AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> HAVE YOU HAD ANY TIME TO
ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU
WERE DOING AND LEARN--YOU KNOW,
SORT OF GROW FROM IT OR--
>> I DON'T KNOW.
I GUESS I'VE GROWN FROM IT.
SURE.
>> WELL, I GUESS NOT.
I MEAN, THAT'S OKAY TOO.
I'M JUST WONDERING HOW YOU FEEL,
LOOKING BACK AT THE WHOLE
EXPERIENCE.
>> IT WAS REALLY JUST A
WASTE OF MY TIME, SO I'VE
MOVED PAST THAT.
>> WHAT ABOUT ELLIE?
>> WELL, AFTER CATFISH, OUR
RELATIONSHIP WAS KIND OF,
YOU KNOW, IFFY.
BUT I WAS ABLE TO, LIKE,
YOU KNOW, RENEW OUR
RELATIONSHIP.
SO, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE BETTER
THAN EVER RIGHT NOW.
>> AT LEAST YOU'RE NOT SITTING
IN THAT STRANGE CASINO.
I THINK THE FACT THAT
YOU'RE OUT IN THE REAL WORLD
PURSUING AN ACTUAL CAREER IS A
BIG STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
>> YEAH.
>> GOOD LUCK.
>> ALL RIGHT, THANKS. LATER.
>> LATER.
[line trilling]
>> HEY.
>> HEY.
>> HEY, IT'S JOHN.
>> HOW YOU DOING?
>> HOW'S DETROIT TREATING YOU?
>> WELL, I'M NOT IN DETROIT
RIGHT NOW.
I'M ACTUALLY IN ILLINOIS.
>> REALLY?
>> YEAH.
>> WHAT ARE YOU DOING THERE?
>> VISITING A FEMALE FRIEND
OF MINE.
>> WAIT, WHO'S THIS FEMALE
FRIEND?
>> YEAH, WHO'S THE LADY?
>> WELL, IT'S A GIRL I'VE KNOWN
FOR--SINCE ABOUT NOVEMBER.
>> BUT NOW YOU'RE IN ILLINOIS,
AND YOU'RE ACTUALLY WITH HER
PHYSICALLY IN REAL LIFE?
>> YES.
>> WELL, THAT'S AWESOME.
THAT'S PROGRESS ALREADY.
HAVE YOU SPOKEN AT ALL WITH ADAM
SINCE YOU LEFT?
>> YEAH, WE'VE TALKED.
>> REALLY?
>> YEAH, WE HAVE.
WE'RE AMICABLE.
HE SEEMS TO FEEL A LITTLE
[bleep] ABOUT IT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY ILL WILL
TOWARDS THE GUY.
>> YOU ARE SO UNDERSTANDING,
JOHN.
>> YEAH. ALL RIGHT, WELL,
I'M GLAD THAT THERE'S A
HAPPY ENDING HERE, A LITTLE
SILVER LINING TO ALL THIS.
>> CONGRATS.
>> SEE YA.
>> "I NEED YOUR HELP TO FIND
ELIJAH.
AS BOYFRIEND AND GIRLFRIEND, WE
WERE A DREAM.
THEN HE DISAPPEARED."
>> A COUPLE MONTHS LATER YOU MET
DANNY.
>> YEAH, THAT WAS GREAT TIMING.
>> NOW WE'VE GOT A LOVE
TRIANGLE.
>> WHY ARE THERE SO MANY
ELIJAH PROKS?
>> ANYONE CAN WALK OUT OF THAT
DOOR.
>> OH, MY GOD.
OH, MY GOD.
>> WE'RE RINGING THE DOORBELL.
[doorbell rings]
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