Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 3, Episode 4 - Lucille & Kidd Cole - full transcript

Lucille led a simple life until she was asked to work for an up and coming music producer named Kidd Cole. Companies were never paid for their services and one day Kidd couldn't be found. Will Lucille get the answers she needs?

>> I JUST WANT TO ASK HIM WHY.

>> MAYBE HE THINKS THAT HE CAN

SORT OF JUST TALK HIS WAY OUT OF

IT.

>> WELL...

>> EITHER WAY, HE'S IN FOR A

SURPRISE.

>> YES.

>> LET'S DO THIS.

>> THIS MUST BE PRETTY WEIRD FOR

YOU.



>> VERY.

>> THAT COULD BE HIM.

>> OH, YEAH, THERE HE IS.

>> MM...

>> YOU REALLY THINK HE'S WORKING

WITH KANYE WEST?

>> [humming]

* NEW EPISODE, CATFISH, YEAH *

* SEASON THREE, PRETTY CRAZY

>> [laughs]

>> * MAX IS MY MAN

* HE IS CRAZY

>> * AND SOMETIMES LAZY

>> [humming]



ALL RIGHT.

SEE THAT, RIGHT THERE?

THAT'S AN INDICATION THAT I HAVE

A NEW EMAIL.

>> YEAH, YOU DO.

>> UH-OH.

"SUBJECT--FRIEND OR FRAUD?"

INTERESTING.

"HI, GUYS!

MY NAME IS LUCILLE, AND I'M

CURRENTLY LIVING IN

PHILADELPHIA."

>> WE ARE IN PHILADELPHIA RIGHT

NOW.

>> YEAH.

>> "I'VE HAD A LITTLE

BROTHER/BIG SISTER RELATIONSHIP

FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR NOW

WITH A MUSIC PRODUCER NAMED

KIDD COLE.

I FOUND OUT THAT HE WAS THE

YOUNGEST MUSIC PRODUCER SIGNED

TO KANYE WEST'S LABEL,

G.O.O.D. MUSIC.

YOU REALLY THINK HE'S WORKING

WITH KANYE WEST?

WE DIRECT MESSAGE.

I EVENTUALLY GAVE HIM MY NUMBER

AS A FAN AND TOLD HIM THAT IF HE

WERE EVER IN PHILLY TO JUST GIVE

ME A CALL AND WE COULD HANG

OUT."

>> * SO YOU'VE COME A LONG WAY *

* SO YOU'RE BUSY EARNIN' *

* YOU CAN'T GET ENOUGH *

>> "I DIDN'T THINK HE WOULD CALL

BECAUSE WE WAS A CELEBRITY AND

I WAS JUST A FAN AT THE TIME."

>> "HOWEVER, I GOT A CALL OUT OF

THE BLUE FROM SOMEONE WITH A

SLIGHT BRITISH ACCENT NAMED"...

>> both: "MIGUEL"...

>> "INFORMING ME THAT KIDD

WANTED TO INVITE ME AS A SPECIAL

GUEST TO HIS BIRTHDAY PARTY, AND

I WAS SO EXCITED.

AFTER THAT CONVERSATION, MIGUEL

WENT ON TO ASK ME IF I COULD

HELP HIM WITH MAKING SOME CALLS

FOR AN EVENT IN

WASHINGTON, D.C."

WAIT. SO MIGUEL "REPS" KIDD.

>> KIDD COLE.

HE WAS ASKING LUCILLE TO DO SOME

WORK FOR HIM.

>> RIGHT. OKAY.

"HELPING FOR ONE DAY TURNED INTO

TWO WEEKS."

WEIRD.

"I HAD HIRED A SECURITY TEAM AND

DRIVER THAT WAS AT HIS EVERY

BECK AND CALL.

THE SECURITY TEAM, THE DRIVER,

AND I ALL FINANCED WHATEVER HE

NEEDED FOR THE WHOLE TWO WEEKS,

WHICH BASICALLY MEANT THAT I HAD

TO FRONT THE MONEY.

NONE OF US HAVE GOTTEN PAID FOR

OUR SERVICES, AND SOMEONE NEEDS

TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE.

I REALLY NEED YOUR HELP IN

FINDING OUT IF HE IS WHO HE SAYS

HE IS.

WHO KNOWS HOW MANY OTHER PEOPLE

HE HAS DONE THIS TO?

IT'S NOT RIGHT.

HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON.

THANKS, LUCILLE."

WOW.

>> THIS IS A VERY STRANGE CASE.

>> YEAH.

>> LET'S CALL HER.

>> HERE WE GO.

[line trilling]

>> HELLO.

>> HI.

>> HEY.

>> HEY.

WHAT'S UP, GUYS?

>> WHAT'S UP, LUCILLE?

THAT WAS, LIKE, THE WEIRDEST

EMAIL.

>> I STILL CAN'T WRAP MY BRAIN

AROUND IT.

I FOUND KIDD ONLINE.

I HAD GAVE HIM MY NUMBER.

THAT'S WHEN I WAS CONTACTED BY

HIS MANAGER, MIGUEL.

HE HAD TOLD ME IF I HELPED HIM

OUT, I WOULD BE COMPENSATED

$1,000.

>> AND DID YOU GET THAT $1,000?

>> NO.

>> AND WHAT WAS HE DOING?

WHERE WAS HE GOING?

>> I HAD SET UP APPEARANCES FOR

KIDD AT HIGH SCHOOLS.

HE WENT TO CONCERTS.

I SET UP HOTEL ROOMS.

IT WAS MAYHEM AFTER THAT.

MIGUEL TEXTS ME FRANTIC,

TALKING ABOUT, "YOU NEED TO GET

HIM FOOD," IN THE MIDDLE OF THE

NIGHT, SENDING HIM MONEY.

>> THIS IS CRAZY.

>> TRUST ME--IT GETS STRANGER.

EVERYBODY STARTS SENDING ME

INVOICES AS FAR AS HOW MUCH

THEIR BILLS WERE.

THE SECURITY TEAM'S BILL WAS

OVER $13,000.

THE DRIVER'S BILL WAS OVER

$8,000.

AND MIGUEL DISAPPEARED.

>> WOW.

>> AND YOU DIDN'T PAY THOSE?

>> NO.

THEY NEVER GOT PAID.

>> HOW DID THIS NOT SEEM REALLY

SKETCHY TO YOU?

>> I HAVE NEVER BEEN IN A

SITUATION LIKE THIS, SO I DIDN'T

KNOW WHAT THE RED FLAGS WERE.

I THOUGHT THAT I WAS GOING TO BE

LEAVING PHILADELPHIA, GETTING

THIS REALLY AWESOME JOB AT A

MAJOR RECORD LABEL.

BUT I'M THE TYPE OF PERSON,

LIKE, "NO, SWEETHEART, YOU'RE

JUST NOT GOING TO RUN OVER ME

AND THINK I'M JUST GOING TO LAY

DOWN AND TAKE IT.

NO."

>> HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO

DO.

WE'RE GOING TO HEAD OUT TO MEET

YOU, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET TO

THE BOTTOM OF THIS.

>> I REALLY NEED YOU GUYS' HELP.

I REALLY DO.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> ALL RIGHT, GOOD NIGHT.

>> WHO IS KIDD COLE?

CAN WE LOOK HIM UP RIGHT NOW

REALLY QUICKLY?

>> BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SOURCE

OF ALL.

>> OH, MY GOD.

>> LOOK.

HE'S ON THE MTV ARTIST WEBSITE.

"ABOUT KIDD COLE...

JEREZ COLEMAN FLEW TO MANHATTAN,

NEW YORK, TO CONSULT WITH

KANYE WEST."

>> YEAH, G.O.O.D. MUSIC.

"THE NEWEST MEMBER OF

G.O.O.D. MUSIC."

>> I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT

IF THE CON MAN IS KIDD COLE OR

IF IT'S JUST MIGUEL.

>> OR IT'S SOMEONE PRETENDING

TO BE KIDD COLE.

>> WE CAN CATCH THIS GUY.

ALL RIGHT, MAX, GET SOME SLEEP.

I NEED YOU SHARP.

>> SHARP.

>> RIGHT NOW GOT TO PUT ON

SOMETHING PRETTY WARM.

>> * I KNOW

* I'M NEVER GONNA *

* MAKE IT ANYWAY

* I THINK I'M GONNA *

* MAKE IT ANYWAY

>> WE ARE IN LUCILLE'S HOOD.

THIS IS HER RIGHT HERE.

>> IS THAT--

>> * I THINK I'M GONNA *

* MAKE IT TODAY

>> HEY, GUYS.

>> HEY.

>> HEY, LUCILLE.

>> WOW. LOOK AT THIS.

>> HOW YOU DOING?

>> AMAZING.

>> COME ON IN.

Y'ALL STANDING OUT THERE

FREEZING TO DEATH.

>> COME ON, GUYS.

>> MM.

>> SWEET.

[meows]

>> THIS IS POLLY.

>> HEY, POLLY.

>> [laughs]

>> OKAY, LET'S GET RIGHT TO IT.

>> OKAY.

>> SO THERE WAS THIS SORT OF

UNUSUAL AND UNEXPECTED EXCHANGE

WITH KIDD COLE.

WHY WAS THAT EXCITING?

>> HERE I AM PRETTY MUCH

STRUGGLING.

MY JOB'S NOT PAYING ME THAT

MUCH.

BUT THEN I WAS TOLD, "YOU COULD

BE HIRED WITH THE LABEL."

YOU KNOW, THAT WAS, LIKE, THE

BIG LIGHTS.

>> WAS THERE ANY SPECIFIC

MENTION OF THE KIND OF SALARY

YOU'D BE GETTING?

>> I THINK I HAD SETTLED ON,

LIKE, $70,000...

>> WOW.

>> FOR START.

>> YEAH.

>> I FELT MY SHIP HAD CAME IN.

>> AND THEN WHEN IT DIDN'T...

>> [chuckles]

I WANTED TO JUST CURL UP AND

CRY.

I CALLED MY MOM.

I CALLED MY DAD AND TOLD THEM.

I WAS LIKE, "IT'S--IT'S NOT

GOING TO HAPPEN."

I TALKED TO A COUPLE COP FRIENDS

OF MINE.

THEY SAID IT'S REALLY NOTHING

CRIMINAL.

IT'S MORE OF A CIVIL MATTER.

I WOULD PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO TAKE

HIM TO COURT, AND I'M LIKE,

"I DON'T HAVE THE TIME, NOR DO

I HAVE THE MONEY."

SO I JUST WANT TO GET DOWN TO

THE BOTTOM OF IT.

>> AND YOU HAVE ALL THE

CORRESPONDENCE?

>> YES, I DO.

>> LET'S CHECK IT OUT.

>> YEAH.

>> IN THE END OF 2012, FIRST

FOUND OUT ABOUT KIDD.

THAT'S WHEN I FOUND OUT HE HAD

SOME BEATS ON SOUNDCLOUD.

I LISTENED TO HIM.

I FIGURED OUT THAT HE WAS

TALENTED.

I REACHED OUT TO HIM ON TWITTER,

D.M.'D HIM.

THAT GOES ON FOR WEEKS, MONTHS.

I'M TELLING YOU, ME AND THIS BOY

WERE IN CONTACT.

>> THIS IS SERIOUS CONTACT.

>> YEAH.

>> SO YOU DO HAVE A NUMBER FOR

HIM.

>> 202 IS...

>> D.C.

>> THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THIS

GUY IS.

>> SO THEN I WAS CONTACTED BY

HIS COMANAGER, MIGUEL, ABOUT

BEING INVITED TO HIS BIRTHDAY

PARTY AND THE WHOLE CELEBRITY

GUEST LIST.

>> THE GUESTS INCLUDE

ROBIN THICKE, PHARRELL,

KANYE WEST, AND JADEN SMITH.

>> I WAS EXCITED.

HE SAYS, "I WAS JUST, YOU KNOW,

REACHING OUT TO YOU TO SEE IF

YOU COULD HELP ME WITH SOME

THINGS AS FAR AS KIDD'S

CONCERNED."

SO I WAS PRETTY MUCH THE CONTACT

PERSON TO SET UP EVERYTHING FOR

KIDD COLE FOR WHAT HE WAS GOING

TO BE DOING IN THE D.C. AREA.

THIS WENT ON FOR TWO WEEKS.

I BOOKED APPEARANCES FOR HIM AT

A HIGH SCHOOL.

I WOULD HAVE THE LEAD SECURITY

GUY MAKING SURE THERE WAS AN

ENTRANCE THAT HE CAN COME IN

AND SPEAK TO THE KIDS.

>> OKAY.

>> THEY WOULD HAVE QUESTION AND

ANSWER, AND IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING

THAT I'M DOING IS PRETTY MUCH A

TEST AS FAR AS...

>> SURE.

>> HOW I'M GOING TO PERFORM IF

I'M WITH THE LABEL.

BUT IT WAS A FIASCO WITH HIM.

IT WAS ALWAYS, "NOBODY LOVES ME.

EVERYBODY JUST WANTS TO BE WITH

ME BECAUSE I HAVE MONEY.

I'LL BE BETTER OFF DEAD."

>> HE GOT YOU HOOKED EMOTIONALLY

AND, LIKE, PROFESSIONALLY.

>> PSYCHOLOGICALLY,

PROFESSIONALLY.

>> YEAH.

>> HE ALWAYS THREATENED, "WELL,

I'M GOING TO CALL KANYE.

PEOPLE GOING TO GET FIRED."

>> WHO THREATENED?

>> KIDD.

I'M THINKING I'M GOING TO BE,

YOU KNOW, CHARGED WITH SOMETHING

BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS DONE BY

ME.

>> THIS IS WHAT SCARES ME.

YOU HIRED THE DRIVER.

>> YES.

>> YOU HIRED THE SECURITY GUY.

THEY COULD EASILY THINK THAT YOU

WERE THE ONE EXECUTING THE SCAM.

>> I'M THE PAWN IN ALL THIS.

>> YEAH.

SO HOW DID THIS END?

>> KIDD HAD GIVEN THE DRIVER THE

CONTRACT.

HE CALLS ME SAYING, "I LOOKED AT

THE CONTRACT.

THERE WAS NO CONTACT

INFORMATION.

THERE'S NO ADDRESS,

NO NOTHING."

HE SAID IT'S ALL A FAKE.

I'M LIKE, "OH, MY GOD, LIKE, HOW

ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO BE

PAID?"

>> RIGHT.

>> BECAUSE WHEN I SAW THAT

INVOICE, I ALMOST HIT THE FLOOR.

THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE

FAMILIES, WHO--WHO HAVE RENT TO

PAY, LIKE, I MEAN, AND THEY WERE

BANKING ON GETTING PAID FROM

THIS JOB.

>> YOU MUST HAVE CONTACTED

MIGUEL AND SAID, "HEY, WHAT'S

GOING ON?"

YOU HAVE HIS NUMBER.

>> YES, AND HE NEVER RESPONDED.

>> HE KIND OF LEFT YOU...

>> TO FEND FOR MYSELF.

IT'S LIKE HE DISAPPEARED--

NO TEXTS, NO NOTHING.

HE JUST GOT GHOST.

>> AND WHERE IS KIDD COLE?

>> HE CONTACTED ME JUST THIS

MONTH ASKING ME FOR MY CREDIT

CARD INFORMATION BECAUSE HE HAD

A PRESS CONFERENCE TO DO WITH

CNN AND THE TRANSPORTATION

COMPANY NEEDED A VALID CREDIT

CARD ON FILE BECAUSE HIS CREDIT

CARD DECLINED.

LIKE, WHO DOES THAT?

OH, GOD.

I'M IN TROUBLE.

I WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING

ON, WHO HE IS, WHY IS HE DOING

THIS, 'CAUSE THIS IS NOT HOW

YOU TREAT SOMEBODY.

>> ALL RIGHT, SO PUT IT ALL IN

AN EMAIL AND GIVE US EVERYTHING

YOU HAVE.

>> OKAY.

>> I WANT TO CATCH THIS GUY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> HE MESSED WITH THE WRONG

PERSON.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> ALL RIGHT?

>> OKAY, BYE.

>> BYE.

>> THE WHOLE STORY IS

COMPLICATED.

THERE'S LOTS OF PARTS AND

PLAYERS AND MONIES.

>> I WANT TO CALL THE LIMO

DRIVERS.

I WANT TO CALL THE SECURITY

GUARDS.

>> BUT BEFORE WE EVEN START

LOOKING INTO THAT, I THINK WE

JUST NEED TO DETERMINE IF

KIDD COLE IS REAL.

>> GIVE ME THE CAMERA.

>> I'LL SHOOT YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT.

I WILL GLADLY LEAD THIS

INVESTIGATION.

FOR TWO WEEKS, LUCILLE WAS

SCAMMED BY THIS GUY, KIDD COLE.

>> OR HIS MANAGER MIGUEL.

>> RIGHT.

>> THIS IS A GIRL WHO CONNECTED

DRIVER, SECURITY TEAMS, THE

WHOLE--

>> COTERIE.

SO NOW LUCILLE, WHO WAS OUT 500

BUCKS....

THE LIMO DRIVER IS OUT $8,000,

AND THE SECURITY DETAIL IS OUT--

>> ALMOST $15,000.

>> SO WHO IS KIDD COLE?

WHO IS MIGUEL?

>> FIRST THINGS FIRST, IS

"KIDD COLE" LEGIT?

>> LOOK, HERE IS THE MTV SITE.

"JEREZ COLEMAN, CURRENTLY KNOWN

BY HIS STAGE NAME KIDD COLE, IS

AN R&B AND CONTEMPORARY LEVEL

MUSIC PRODUCER WHO WAS

DISCOVERED BY HIS FUTURE

MANAGER, MIGUEL."

WE NEED TO CALL ALLISON THIEL,

WHO'S IN CHARGE OF A LOT OF THE

MUSIC THAT GOES ON SHOWS ON MTV.

[line trilling]

HEY, ALLISON, IT'S NEV AND MAX.

>> HEY, ALLISON.

>> WE'RE SHOOTING AN EPISODE

RIGHT NOW.

WHAT ARE THE WAYS IN WHICH

SOMEONE CAN GET ON THE

HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF AN

ARTIST NAMED KIDD COLE?

THIS KID SAYS THAT HE'S SIGNED

AT G.O.O.D. MUSIC.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW

ANYBODY OVER THERE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> WHY DON'T WE JUST TYPE IN

"KIDD COLE" AND SEE IF ANYTHING

COMES UP?

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> WHAT DO WE GOT?

OKAY, LOOK, HERE ARE IMAGES.

THIS IS APPARENTLY A PICTURE OF

HIM WITH KANYE, BUT YOU CAN'T

REALLY TELL WHO THIS IS, AND

THERE'S A SONG FEATURING

KIDD COLE.

SHOULD WE PLAY IT?

>> SURE.

[hip-hop music]

>> ALL RIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO

SOUNDHOUND THIS FOR A SECOND.

AND THERE'S NOTHING.

THE FIRST SONG THAT CAME UP

ISN'T EVEN ATTRIBUTED TO HIM.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO TO HIS

SOUNDCLOUD.

HERE'S A SONG BY KIDD COLE.

>> WHOA. WAIT, WAIT.

>> THIS COMES UP.

WE JUST GOT A HIT ON THIS SONG.

IT'S BY LIL MARTIN.

THIS DOESN'T MENTION LIL MARTIN

AT ALL.

>> WE SHOULD LOOK UP THAT ALBUM.

>> RIGHT.

>> ON THE iTUNES PAGE--

LIL MARTIN,

GARY COLEMAN MIXTAPE.

>> OKAY, SO GARY COLEMAN IS A

REAL ALBUM.

>> NO MENTION OF KIDD COLE

ANYWHERE.

LET'S LOOK UP THE NUMBER SHE

HAS FOR KIDD COLE'S MANAGER,

MIGUEL.

WE GOT A HIT.

STONE-COL JEREZ.

KIDD COLE'S REAL NAME...

>> IS JEREZ.

>> SUPPOSEDLY IS JEREZ COLEMAN.

>> IT'S ALL OBVIOUSLY, LIKE, A

PLAY ON WORDS.

>> SO MIGUEL'S PHONE NUMBER IS

REGISTERED TO JEREZ.

LET'S RUN KIDD COLE'S PHONE

NUMBER.

>> [inhales sharply] AGAIN.

>> AGAIN, IT'S JEREZ, IN D.C.

MIGUEL AND KIDD COLE ARE THE

SAME PERSON.

WHAT IF YOU JUST LOOKED UP

"JEREZ COLEMAN" ON GOOGLE?

>> HERE'S A WEB SEARCH FOR

JEREZ.

WOW. THERE'S A FACEBOOK PAGE

CALLED "KIDD COLE SCAM ARTIST"!

>> GO TO THAT.

>> "SCAM ALERT--KIDD COLE SCAM."

"KIDD COLE, AKA JEREZ COLEMAN,

IS A SCAM ARTIST WHO HAVE

SCAMMED MANY IN THE D.C. AREA.

BEWARE."

"I AM MAD AS HELL.

MY BEST FRIEND, LORETTA, HAS

BEEN DUPED BY KIDD COLE.

SHE IS AN INDEPENDENT LIMO

DRIVER AND WAS CONTACTED ON

FEBRUARY 2ND."

>> JUST HAPPENED.

>> WHOA.

"MY FRIEND IS OUT THOUSANDS OF

DOLLARS AND COMPLETELY

DEVASTATED."

"THIS LITTLE SCAM ARTIST SCAMMED

MY TRANSPORTATION COMPANY.

PLEASE BEWARE OF HIM.

I WILL BE POSTING VIDEOS OF THIS

PUNK."

>> WHO'S LORETTA?

WE GOT TO REACH OUT TO HER.

>> "DEAR LORETTA, I HAVE A SHOW

ON MTV CALLED CATFISH."

>> SO I GUESS THIS IS THE KID,

BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS POSTING

ABOUT HIM.

>> THIS GUY JUST SCAMMED SOMEONE

LAST WEEK.

>> SO WE HAVE ONE ANSWER, WHICH

IS THAT HE'S STILL DOING IT.

>> WEIRD.

>> WE'VE GOT A LOT OF

INFORMATION AND EVIDENCE THAT

SORT OF POINTS TO THE D.C.

AREA--THE PHONE NUMBER, THE

PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SCAMMED.

SO WE KNOW WE CAN GO DOWN THERE

AND POKE AROUND AND MAYBE JUST

TRY AND FIND SOME OF THESE

PEOPLE.

WE'RE ONTO SOMETHING.

WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT WHO HE

IS AND HOW TO STOP HIM.

>> OH, WE GOT ONE.

>> ONE MESSAGE.

>> FROM LORETTA.

>> OH, THAT'S THE WOMAN WHO

RECENTLY GOT SCAMMED, RIGHT?

>> YEAH.

>> "MR. NEV, I HOPE THAT YOU

ARE WHO YOU SAY BECAUSE I CAN'T

TRUST ANYONE THESE DAYS AFTER

KIDD COLE.

I WOULD LOVE TO TELL MY STORY."

>> FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, ALL

WE'VE WANTED TO DO IS GET IN

TOUCH WITH SOMEONE WHO'S HAD AN

IN-PERSON MEETING WITH

KIDD COLE.

RIGHT NOW THAT'S LORETTA.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD GO DOWN TO

D.C.--WE'RE NOT FAR--INTERVIEW

HER.

BUT FIRST, WE GOT TO GO TALK

TO LUCILLE.

>> SO LET'S GO.

ALL RIGHT.

WHEW.

SO WE DID A LOT OF OUR OWN

RESEARCH.

>> OKAY.

>> THIS IS THE KIDD COLE SORT OF

ARTIST PAGE ON MTV'S WEBSITE.

I CALLED THE MUSIC SUPERVISOR

FOR OUR SHOW, AND WHAT SHE TOLD

US IS THAT ANYBODY CAN DO IT.

>> OKAY.

>> OKAY, SO THERE'S THAT.

>> SO THIS IS THE SOUNDCLOUD

PAGE THAT WE FOUND FOR

KIDD COLE, AND WE USED

SOUNDHOUND, AND IT PULLED UP

THIS.

THERE'S AN ALBUM...

>> BY LIL MARTIN ON THE iTUNES

PAGE...

>> CALLED GARY COLEMAN,

THE GARY COLEMAN MIXTAPE.

>> AND NOWHERE ON iTUNES DOES IT

SAY THAT KIDD COLE WORKED ON

THIS OR PRODUCED IT.

>> BASICALLY, WHAT WE'RE SAYING

IS, YOU ASKED US TO FIND OUT IF

KIDD COLE IS LEGIT.

HE'S NOT.

>> I'M--I'M--I'M SPEECHLESS

RIGHT NOW.

I REALLY AM.

>> THEN WE LOOKED UP THIS 202

NUMBER THAT YOU GAVE US FOR

KIDD COLE.

SO THAT CAME UP AS

STONE-COL JEREZ.

AND THEN WHAT'S INTERESTING IS

THAT THE NUMBER YOU HAD FOR

MIGUEL ALSO CAME UP AS

REGISTERED TO STONE-COL JEREZ.

>> [sighs]

>> MIGUEL AND KIDD COLE AND

JEREZ ARE ALL THE SAME PERSON.

>> THEN WE LOOKED UP

JEREZ COLEMAN AGAIN, AND THE

VERY FIRST HIT.

>> SOMEONE STARTED A WHOLE NEW

PAGE WITH A PICTURE OF KIDD, AND

THE BANNER OF THE PAGE--"SCAM

ALERT."

AND IT SAYS, "I AM MAD AS HELL.

MY BEST FRIEND, LORETTA, HAS

BEEN DUPED BY KIDD COLE.

MY FRIEND IS OUT OF THOUSANDS OF

DOLLARS AND COMPLETELY

DEVASTATED."

AS OF EARLIER THIS MONTH,

"JEREZ COLEMAN," OR WHATEVER YOU

WANT TO CALL HIM, STILL GOES BY

"KIDD COLE," AND HE'S STILL

TOTALLY OUT THERE DOING WHAT HE

DOES.

>> I'M SHAKING RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, 'CAUSE I'M--I'M LIKE...

IT'S NOT JUST ME WHO HE'S DONE

THIS TO.

LIKE, WHY?

'CAUSE YOU JUST DON'T DO THIS TO

HONEST, HARDWORKING PEOPLE THAT

ARE LIVING THEIR LIVES AND, YOU

KNOW, TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING,

YOU KNOW, AND IT'S--IT'S--NO.

IT'S NOT COOL.

LIKE, WHY WOULD YOU GO THROUGH

ALL THIS?

DO YOU WANT TO BE NOTICED THAT

BAD?

AND WHY DID YOU BRING ME INTO

IT?

LIKE, WHY?

>> * HUSTLE YOU

*

* 'CAUSE I'M A HUSTLER *

*

>> EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE

DIRECTING US TO D.C., WHICH IS

WHERE MOST, IF NOT ALL, OF THIS

ACTIVITY HAS BEEN TAKING PLACE.

>> MM-HMM.

I REALLY WANT TO GET TO THE

BOTTOM OF THIS.

>> YOU READY TO GO TO D.C.?

>> LET'S DO THIS.

>> * NEVER STOP

>> LET'S GO TO D.C.

>> * I'M SHININ' OUT HERE *

* ON THE BLOCK

* EVERY DAY IS ONE STEP

* CLOSER TO THE TOP

[cell phone chimes]

>> OH, BOY, HERE WE GO.

HELLO.

HEY, ALLISON.

YOU SPOKE TO SOMEONE AT

G.O.O.D. MUSIC.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> YEAH, THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE

WAITING TO HEAR.

>> HE HAS NO AFFILIATION TO

KANYE.

HE'S A TOTAL IMPOSTOR.

>> YEAH.

AND, I MEAN, LIKE, HE WAS

DROPPING NAMES LIKE HE HAD IT

LIKE THAT.

>> * FOR THE TOWN I'M REPPIN' *

* TAKE A SECOND AND RECKON

* DON'T IT SOUND LIKE HEAVEN? *

* THE AIR'S STILL FRESH *

* I BREATHE

* AND WHEN I LEAVE...

>> GET READY FOR A BIG DAY

TOMORROW.

D.C. STANDS FOR "DETECTIVE

CATFISH."

>> OW!

>> GOOD NIGHT.

>> * I'M GONNA SHINE *

* YEAH, YEAH

>> LORETTA, THE LIMO DRIVER WHO

RECENTLY GOT SCAMMED, IS

DOWNSTAIRS.

>> OKAY, LET'S GO MEET HER.

>> YOU MUST BE LORETTA.

>> I'M THE ONE AND ONLY.

HOW ARE YOU?

>> PLEASURE TO MEET YOU.

WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR

YOU.

>> NO PROBLEM.

I ALSO BROUGHT THE ITINERARY

THAT THE GENTLEMAN GAVE US...

>> OH, WOW.

>> ALONG WITH THE CONTRACT.

>> THIS LOOKS VERY OFFICIAL.

>> IT DID.

>> LOOK AT THIS.

>> TWO WEEKS AGO.

>> JUST TWO WEEKS AGO.

>> YEAH, EXACTLY.

OUR COMPANY WAS ONE THAT HE

SCAMMED OUT OF ALMOST 8 GRAND.

>> WELL, LET'S DRIVE AROUND A

LITTLE BIT AND SHOW US SOME OF

THE PLACES YOU GUYS WERE GOING

TO.

>> ALL RIGHT, I WILL DO THAT.

OKAY, NO PROBLEM.

>> CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH JUST

THE WHOLE STORY?

>> WE HAD THIS CALL COME FROM A

NEW YORK NUMBER.

AND THEN IT'S LIKE, "HI.

MR. KANYE WEST'S IN-HOUSE

PRODUCER KIDD COLE IS IN TOWN,

AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU

WOULD PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION FOR

HIM."

AND I SAID, "YEAH."

AND WE WENT AND GOOGLED THIS

GENTLEMEN.

HE HAD, LIKE, EVENTS IN D.C.

WHERE HE WAS WITH KANYE WEST AND

JADEN SMITH.

SO THE NEXT DAY WE PICKED

MR. COLE UP.

AFTER THAT, WE WENT TO THIS

PLACE TO EAT AND FOUND OUT THAT

HE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO

PAY THE BILL.

HE TEXTED US THE NEXT DAY, SAID

THAT KIDD COLE WAS ROBBED THE

NIGHT BEFORE, OF HIS WALLET AND

OF $800.

>> YEAH, HE TOLD ME A SIMILAR

STORY ABOUT HOW SOMEBODY ROBBED

HIM.

>> YEAH.

>> AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE

REASONS WHY HE WANTED TO HAVE A

WHOLE BUNCH OF SECURITY WITH

HIM, BECAUSE HE HAD GOT ROBBED.

>> OH, MY GOSH.

I TOOK HIM TO H&M, WHERE HE

WANTED ME TO CALL AND ASK FOR

SECURITY TO COME OUTSIDE AND

MEET HIM SO HE CAN GO SHOPPING.

THESE GENTLEMEN WERE STANDING ON

THE CORNER LIKE IT WAS OBAMA.

THEN I GUESS HE STARTED TRUSTING

ME, AND THEN I ALWAYS DROPPED

HIM OFF AT HOME.

THAT'S THE HOUSE I WENT IN AND

VISITED THE GRANDMOTHER.

>> HOW'D YOU END UP GETTING

INSIDE THE HOUSE?

>> OH, YOU DON'T KNOW ME, SIR.

I WENT THE NEXT DAY, AND

I KNOCKED ON THE DOOR AND SAID,

"IS MR. JEREZ COLEMAN THERE?"

SHE'S LIKE, "WHO?"

I SAID, "KIDD COLE."

AND SHE OPENED THE DOOR.

AND SHE SAID, "WELL, NO, HE'S

NOT HERE, BUT HIS MOTHER IS."

THE YOUNG LADY NEVER CAME DOWN

TO EVEN APPROACH ME TO SEE WHY

I WAS THERE ABOUT HER SON.

AND AS I WAS LEAVING, THE

GRANDMA WAS LIKE, "LORETTA,

THEY'VE BEEN STAYING WITH ME FOR

TWO MONTHS.

I THINK THEY'RE HOMELESS."

AND I WAS LIKE, "I GOT HIM."

AND THAT'S ALL I SAID, AND

I WALKED OUT.

>> WOW.

>> I HAVE A FRIEND WHO'S A

PARALEGAL, AND SHE DID AN

INVESTIGATION.

>> SHE SEARCHED JEREZ COLEMAN

AND FOUND HIM.

>> OH, YEAH, AND IT DOES SHOW

HIS ARREST RECORD FOR FRAUD AND

FELONY.

BUT I THINK MONDAY HE HAS TO GO

TO COURT.

SO HE'S GOING TO GET CAUGHT.

>> HOW MUCH MONEY DID YOU

ACTUALLY SPEND?

>> WELL, WE ACTUALLY SPENT--

THESE EXTRA VEHICLES THAT HE

WANTED, WE SUBCONTRACTED THOSE.

I PAID $85 AN HOUR FOR THAT

MERCEDES.

>> OOF.

>> YEAH. HE WAS GOOD.

HE OKEYDOKEY'D US.

LIKE I TOLD HIM ON THE PHONE,

I SAID, "I MAY NOT GET ONE DIME

OUT OF YOU, BUT I'M GOING TO LET

EVERYBODY KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND

WHO YOU'RE NOT, AND I'M GOING TO

HAUNT YOU LIKE A GHOST.

YOU CAN CALL ME 'SPOOKY.'"

THAT'S WHAT I TOLD HIM.

>> [laughs]

>> LORETTA, THIS WAS AN AMAZING

TOUR.

I HOPE YOU GET JUSTICE.

>> OH, I WILL.

[chuckles]

>> TODAY WAS ENLIGHTENING.

>> VERY.

>> IT WAS INTERESTING TO SORT OF

TRACE HIS STEPS.

I THINK ALL THAT'S LEFT TO DO IS

TO JUST TRY TO MEET HIM.

>> YEAH.

>> ALL RIGHT, HERE GOES NOTHING.

[line trilling]

HELLO, IS THIS JEREZ?

HEY, JEREZ.

THIS IS NEV.

I HAVE A TV SHOW ON MTV--

CATFISH.

AND WE'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT

ABOUT YOU AND SORT OF THE FAMOUS

KIDD COLE.

WE'RE JUST HEARING LOTS ABOUT

YOU, MAN.

WE'RE ACTUALLY SITTING WITH YOUR

OLD FRIEND LUCILLE.

HERE, YOU CAN SAY HELLO.

>> WHAT'S UP?

HOW YOU BEEN?

YOU BEEN OKAY?

>> YOU GUYS HAVE HAD THIS

FRIENDSHIP NOW FOR OVER A YEAR,

I THINK, AND SHE WANTS TO

FINALLY MEET YOU.

WE'D LOVE TO HELP FACILITATE

THAT.

ARE YOU IN D.C. OR...?

OH, OKAY.

YEAH, WELL, WE HEARD FROM

LUCILLE THAT YOU WERE, YOU KNOW,

A MUSIC PRODUCER AND AN ARTIST.

WE--WE THOUGHT THAT WAS COOL.

WE SAW YOUR, YOU KNOW, BIO ON

MTV.

I MEAN, I'M A FAN, OBVIOUSLY, OF

KANYE AND G.O.O.D. MUSIC AND

ALL THAT.

I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE COOL FOR

US TO GET TO MEET YOU.

>> UM...

>> ALL RIGHT, MAN.

I MEAN, DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE HIS

STORY...

>> YEAH.

>> READY.

>> YEAH.

>> YOU KNOW, WE CAUGHT HIM

OFF GUARD, AND YOU COULD TELL HE

WAS SCRAMBLING.

>> I'M NOT WORRIED OF HIM, LIKE,

SLIPPING THROUGH OUR FINGERS.

>> NO, WE GOT HIM.

[cell phone chimes]

>> KIDD COLE.

HE SAID, "HI. WHAT'S UP?

LET'S MEET AT YARDS PARK AT

12:30 IN THE AFTERNOON."

>> LET'S GO GET OUR GIRL.

>> I CAN'T BELIEVE KIDD COLE HAS

ACTUALLY AGREED TO MEET WITH US.

>> WELL, LET'S NOT FORGET WHAT

HE THINKS THIS IS.

HE THINKS YOU WANT TO MEET HIM.

YOU'RE SOMEONE WHO HAS SORT OF

BEEN HIS FRIEND.

>> YES.

>> NOW, I'M SURE HE'S AWARE THAT

YOU ARE PROBABLY A LITTLE

CONFUSED, IF NOT UPSET...

>> YES.

>> ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.

>> YES.

I JUST WANT TO ASK HIM WHY.

IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET NOTICED

OR PICKED UP BY A LABEL, THIS

ISN'T HOW YOU DO IT.

>> BUT MAYBE HE THINKS THAT HE

CAN SORT OF JUST TALK HIS WAY

OUT OF IT.

>> WELL...

>> YOU KNOW WHAT?

HE'S IN FOR A SURPRISE.

>> YES.

LET'S DO THIS.

>> HOW ABOUT DOWN THERE?

>> IS THAT HIM OVER THERE?

>> YEAH, YEAH.

>> YEAH, THAT COULD BE HIM.

>> THIS MUST BE PRETTY WEIRD FOR

YOU.

>> VERY.

>> THERE HE HIS.

>> OH, YEAH, THERE HE IS.

>> MM...

[groans]

HEY, YOU.

>> HOW YOU DOING?

>> HOW ARE YOU?

>> I'M DOING GOOD.

>> SURPRISED TO SEE ME?

>> YEAH.

HEY, WHAT'S UP? HOW YOU DOING?

>> HEY. NEV. HOW YOU DOING?

>> NICE TO MEET YOU.

>> MAX.

>> WHAT'S UP?

>> NICE TO MEET YOU.

>> HOW YOU DOING?

>> WHAT'S THE LATEST WITH YOU?

>> YEAH, WHAT'S GOING ON, MAN?

>> I'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, JUST

RELAXING AND STUFF.

WE'RE JUST DOING SOME STUFF DOWN

HERE.

>> HAVE YOU BEEN IN THE STUDIO?

>> YEAH.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF PROJECTS

COMING UP.

>> WHO ARE YOU WORKING WITH?

>> RIGHT NOW I HAVE A PLACE

WITH--RIGHT NOW WITH WALE RIGHT

NOW I'M WORKING ON.

AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER ONE

WITH--WITH RZA FROM WU TANG.

>> OKAY.

>> HAVE YOU SEEN OUR SHOW EVER?

>> NO, I NEVER, EVER DID.

SO THAT'S IT.

>> WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH YOU?

>> LIKE WHAT?

I'M LOST.

>> YOU'RE LOST?

>> YEAH, REALLY, I AM.

>> YOU WERE HELPING KIDD OUT

LAST YEAR, RIGHT?

>> NOVEMBER, YEAH.

>> LAST NOVEMBER.

>> YEAH.

>> WHAT HAPPENED THERE?

>> WELL, I WAS PRETTY MUCH THE

GO-TO PERSON FOR EVERYTHING.

I WAS SETTING UP SECURITY,

APPEARANCES AT HIGH SCHOOLS.

I WAS TOLD THAT I WAS GOING TO

BE THE EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT WITH

YOU.

>> JUST WANTED TO GET TO KNOW

WHAT'S GOING ON--YOU KNOW,

WHAT'S UP WITH YOU, THAT'S ALL.

I MEAN, DO PEOPLE CALL YOU

"KIDD COLE" OR...?

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M KNOWN BY,

KIDD COLE, YEAH.

>> RIGHT.

YOUR NAME'S JEREZ, RIGHT?

>> YEAH.

>> IT'S KIND OF TOUGH.

WE WANTED TO FIND SOME OF YOUR

MUSIC ONLINE, BUT WE COULDN'T.

WE WERE--

>> MY SOUNDCLOUD?

>> WE WENT ON YOUR SOUNDCLOUD

PAGE, AND WE LOOKED INTO SOME OF

THE SONGS THAT YOU PUT UP THERE,

AND YOU DIDN'T MAKE THEM.

>> ALL MY BEATS ARE

"COPYWRITTEN," AND I HAVE ALL

LEGAL DOCUMENTATION THAT SAY

THAT, SO...

[distant siren wailing]

I'M NOT A FRAUDULENT PERSON.

EVERYTHING I DO IS CORRECT,

SO...

AND I HAVE PEOPLE AROUND ME

THAT'S LIKE--SOME POWERFUL

PEOPLE BEHIND ME, SO...

>> MIGUEL DISAPPEARS.

WERE YOU PRETENDING TO BE MIGUEL

OR--JUST TO GET RODE AROUND IN

CARS?

'CAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE

RUNNING BUSINESSES THAT HAVE

THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF BILLS

THAT AREN'T BEING PAID.

GINO AND THEM IS OWED OVER

$13,000.

WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT?

YOU REMEMBER THAT?

>> YEAH.

>> WHAT WAS UP WITH THAT?

>> I LIKE THAT CASE.

WHO MAKES THAT?

CAN I SEE THAT?

YOU'VE BEEN PLAYING PEOPLE...

HARD.

>> ACTUALLY, NO, NOT REALLY.

>> YEAH, REALLY.

YOU CAN GO GET IT IF YOU WANT,

BUT I THINK WE'RE ALL BETTER

OFF WITHOUT YOU HAVING IT.

>> I'M--I'M SERIOUS NOW.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET MY

PHONE, 'CAUSE, LIKE, THAT'S,

LIKE, MY PHONE.

>> WHY DON'T YOU ANSWER SOME

QUESTIONS HERE FOR OUR FRIEND

LUCILLE?

>> BUT YOU SHOULD, LIKE, GET MY

PHONE.

>> WELL, THE PHONE'S GONE, SO...

>> I'M NOT REALLY, LIKE, GONNA

BE HOSTILE WITH YOU, 'CAUSE

YOU'RE GROWN, SO...

>> YEAH.

>> BUT THAT'S MY PHONE.

>> IT SUCKS TO LOSE SOMETHING,

DOESN'T IT?

SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO YOU.

>> YOU JUST THREW MY PHONE FOR

NO REASON.

YOU'RE LIKE--

>> ACTUALLY--

>> LOOK, NO, BUT DO YOU KNOW--

WAIT, HOLD ON.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING I NEVER

DISRESPECTED HIM AT ALL.

>> YOU'RE STANDING HERE, AND

YOU'RE LYING TO US,

AND YOU'VE BEEN LYING TO HER.

YOU'VE BEEN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF

PEOPLE, AND WE JUST WANT YOU TO

TELL US WHAT'S UP AND--AND, YOU

KNOW.

>> ACTUALLY, I HAVEN'T.

>> BE HONEST WITH US.

>> HE JUST THREW MY PHONE.

BUT YOU JUST THREW MY PHONE,

THOUGH.

>> STEP--STEP BACK.

>> [bleep].

THAT'S JUST IRRITATING.

>> TALK TO ME.

>> OKAY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> [bleep] THESE CAMERAS, MAN.

LISTEN...

>> DID YOU ORCHESTRATE THIS

WHOLE THING?

>> NO.

>> WERE YOU PRETENDING TO BE

MIGUEL OR...?

>> NO.

I DON'T LIKE REVEALING, LIKE--

I'M A VERY PRIVATE PERSON.

I DON'T LIKE REVEALING

EVERYTHING.

>> THESE PEOPLE HAVE BILLS.

LIKE, THEY HAVE $8,000 BILLS.

>> I'M IRRITATED AND...

GET MY PHONE.

IT'S A WRAP FOR TODAY.

>> I OVERREACTED.

I OVERREACTED.

SORRY I LOST MY COOL.

IT WASN'T--WAS NOT AN OKAY THING

TO DO.

I HEARD WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE

OF GETTING YOU A NEW PHONE, SO

I HOPE THAT WILL MAKE IT A

LITTLE BIT BETTER.

BUT PLEASE ACCEPT MY APOLOGY.

>> MM-HMM.

GREAT.

>> HEARD FROM KIDD COLE.

HE'S EXCITED TO SHOW US HIS

STUFF.

>> STILL TO THIS DAY, I'M LIKE,

WITH ALL THE INTELLIGENCE THAT

I DO HAVE, LIKE, FOR THIS KID TO

BE SO YOUNG AND TO HAVE DONE

THIS TO ME, I'M LIKE, "YO,

LIKE...

HOW COULD I HAVE NOT SEEN ALL

THE RED FLAGS?"

>> MAYBE THE STRATEGY TODAY IS

TO KIND OF JUST HEAR WHAT HE HAS

TO SAY.

>> NOT GO ON THE ATTACK.

>> YEAH.

SEE IF HE CAN OFFER US AN

EXPLANATION, WHY HE DOES THIS.

>> I MEAN, I WILL QUIETLY

SOUNDHOUND THE SONGS HE'S

PLAYING.

>> HERE IT IS.

YOU GUYS READY?

>> LET'S DO THIS.

>> THERE'S A NOTE ON THE DOOR.

>> THAT SAYS?

>> IT SAYS, "COME IN.

WE ARE DOWNSTAIRS IN THE

STUDIO."

OKAY.

[door creaks]

WOW.

>> NICE PLACE.

>> VERY NICE.

>> HELLO?

>> HELLO.

>> WHAT'S UP, GUYS?

>> HI.

>> HOW YOU GUYS DOING?

HADI.

>> HADI?

>> YEAH.

>> I THINK YESTERDAY WE GOT OFF

ON A, LIKE, LITTLE--

>> ON A BAD FOOT?

>> YEAH.

>> WE'RE JUST KIND OF DOWN TO BE

HERE AND JUST ENJOY THE PROCESS.

>> WHOSE PLACE IS THIS?

>> OH, THIS IS MINE.

>> IT'S REALLY NICE.

>> OH, THANKS.

>> DO YOU LIVE HERE?

>> YEAH, MY PARENTS DO.

>> OH, SWEET.

>> DID YOU, LIKE, MIX ALL THIS

STUFF?

>> YEAH, MOST OF THESE ARTISTS

JUST RECORDED HERE, AND I JUST

MIXED AND ENGINEERED ALL OF

THIS, SO...

>> WOW.

WHAT ARE YOU GUYS WORKING ON

NOW?

>> HE'S PRODUCING A COUPLE OF

TRACKS.

>> YEAH, WE CAN ACTUALLY PLAY--

PLAY THE TRACK THAT I DID FOR

THIS SINGER--FOR THE ARTIST, IF

THAT'S COOL.

>> YEAH, THAT'D BE AWESOME.

>> YEAH.

[pop music]

>> * NOBODY EVER SAID

* IT WAS EASY

* WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LET IT GO *

* WE CAN TAKE A WALK

* INTO THE HEART OF THE CITY

>> HOW DO YOU GET STARTED WITH,

LIKE, A GOOD BEAT?

>> WELL, USUALLY I START WITH

THE PERCUSSIONS FIRST, AND THEN

I GO INTO THE BASS.

>> CAN YOU RECORD SOME--SOME

VOCALS RIGHT NOW?

IF WE WANTED TO, COULD WE, LIKE,

LAY DOWN SOME--LIKE A VOCAL

TRACK?

>> SURE.

>> I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO START

ONE, YOU COULD DO, LIKE, A

RAPPING SESSION.

SEE WHAT YOU GOT.

>> OKAY, I'M GAME.

>> YOU WANT TO FREESTYLE, NEV?

[laughs]

>> YEAH, ALL RIGHT.

SO PUT ME IN THE BOOTH.

>> HADI IS GOING TO GET YOU SET

UP.

>> I'M IN.

>> GO THROUGH THAT, UM...

>> WHICH ONE?

>> [sighs] THE IDIOM TRACK WE

WERE GOING--WE WERE LISTENING TO

BEFORE THIS.

>> CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME YET?

I AM IN THE STUDIO.

>> YOU GONNA RECORD ANYTHING?

>> I CAN SORT OF HEAR IT IN MY

HEADPHONES.

>> OKAY, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU,

THOUGH.

>> OH.

>> WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS

THAT THESE TWO KNUCKLEHEADS...

[chuckles] ARE TRYING TO FIGURE

OUT HOW TO GET THE MICROPHONE TO

RECORD.

>> WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?

>> I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

LIKE, I'M TRYING TO--FOR SOME

REASON, IT--THE TRACK ISN'T

TRYING TO RECORD.

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?

[door creaks]

>> ALL RIGHT, SO THEY JUST

PRETTY MUCH HAVE US IN A REALLY,

REALLY AWKWARD POSITION.

NEV, LIKE, REALLY, REALLY WANTS

TO RECORD, AND ALL I CAN DO IS

JUST PLAY THE BEAT.

>> HOW'S IT GOING?

>> GOOD.

>> LOT OF PRESSURE WITH ALL THE

CAMERAS AND STUFF.

>> YEAH.

NO.

>> SO YOU DON'T LIVE HERE.

>> NO.

>> AND DO YOU KNOW KIDD?

>> KIDD, YES, FOR, LIKE, A

MONTH.

>> ARE YOU DOING THIS AS A FAVOR

TO HIM?

>> HE CALLED ME.

HE'S LIKE, "HEY, WE NEED A

STUDIO TO RECORD THE SHOW AT.

DO YOU KNOW ANY GOOD STUDIOS?

I SAID, "YEAH."

>> AND WHAT DO YOU THINK?

IS HE THE REAL DEAL?

>> UM...

>> THIS EPISODE OF

CATFISH: THE TV SHOW CONTINUES

NOW.

>> SO YOU'VE NEVER ACTUALLY SEEN

HIM, LIKE, WORKING ON ANY OF

THE...

>> MM-MM.

SO EVERY TIME, LIKE, HE CAME

WITH SOMETHING, IT WAS

ALREADY...

>> IT WAS ALREADY MADE.

>> YEAH.

>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S GO

BACK DOWN.

>> ALL RIGHT, COOL.

>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S FIND OUR WAY

OVER TO THE LIVING ROOM.

>> I TALKED TO HADI UPSTAIRS,

AND HE BROKE DOWN TO ME THAT HE

IS NOT AN ENGINEER.

>> I NEED ANSWERS, BECAUSE IT'S

LIKE EVERYTHING THAT YOU PUT ME

THROUGH FOR THOSE TWO WEEKS,

LIKE, YOU HAD ME CALL ALL THESE

PEOPLE UNDER FALSE PRETENSES

THAT I WAS GOING TO BE WITH THE

LABEL, THAT I WAS GOING TO GET A

JOB.

YOU HAD ME GET ALL THESE

SECURITY GUARDS.

YOU HAD ME CALL THE DRIVER AND

DRIVE YOU AROUND.

THIS IS NOTHING TO PLAY WITH.

THESE ARE PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOODS.

>> WHAT'S DRIVING YOU?

WHAT DO YOU WANT?

>> THE ONLY THING I WANT TO DO

IS TO HAVE A BREAK, THE

OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW PEOPLE WHAT

I CAN DO, BECAUSE WITH ME MAKING

MUSIC, I ACTUALLY REALLY KNOW

WHAT THE HECK I'M DOING, AND I'M

REALLY GOOD.

>> ALL I KNOW IS THAT THE SONGS

THAT YOU PLAYED ARE OTHER

PEOPLE'S SONGS.

WE FOUND THEM ON OTHER WEBSITES.

WE KNOW IT'S NOT YOUR STUFF.

IF YOU HAD REAL MUSIC TO SHOW

US, YOU WOULD HAVE SHOWN IT TO

US.

YOU DON'T.

AND THEN WE DROVE AROUND WITH A

VERY LOVELY WOMAN WHO RECENTLY

DROVE YOU AROUND JUST A COUPLE

WEEKS AGO, WHO SPENT $3,000 OF

HER OWN MONEY RENTING FANCIER

CARS FOR YOU BECAUSE SUBURBAN

WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH.

YOU WANTED THE MERCEDES.

YOU SCAMMED HER JUST THE WAY YOU

SCAMMED THE SECURITY GUARDS.

LIKE, YOU'RE A SCAM ARTIST.

>> I MEAN, BASICALLY, YOU

TRYING TO, LIKE, RUIN--LIKE,

HUMILIATE ME.

>> NO, NO, NO.

YOU HUMILIATED YOURSELF.

>> YOU'VE HUMILIATED YOURSELF.

>> YOU THINK YOU KNOW, BUT YOU

REALLY DON'T.

>> WELL, THEN TELL US.

WE WANT TO KNOW.

>> YOU'VE BEEN, LIKE,

DISRESPECTFUL THIS WHOLE TIME.

LIKE, I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW YOU

TO DISRESPECT MY TALENT BECAUSE

I ACTUALLY AM TALENTED.

I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW THAT TO

HAPPEN.

>> THOSE ARE GOOD, HARDWORKING

PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING NOW

BECAUSE OF SOME THE CHOICES

YOU'VE MADE.

>> I DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO

STEAL NOBODY'S STUFF.

I DON'T DO THAT.

>> WE JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND.

>> I'M NOT TRYING TO DECEIVE

PEOPLE, SCAM PEOPLE.

THAT'S NOT--THAT'S NOT--

>> BUT THAT'S HOW THEY'RE GOING

TO SEE IT.

I CAN UNDERSTAND DOING IT ONCE,

BUT, LIKE, WHY'D YOU DO IT,

LIKE, THREE TIMES?

BUT, LIKE, RIGHT NOW YOU'VE

USED UP A LOT OF GOODWILL.

YOU OWE THESE PEOPLE MONEY.

I KNOW YOU PROBABLY CAN'T GIVE

THEM THE MONEY THAT YOU TOOK.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, LIKE, AN

APOLOGY.

YOU'RE JUST LIKE, "LOOK, I'M

REALLY SORRY," OR JUST

SOMETHING.

LIKE, IT MIGHT MAKE YOU FEEL

BETTER, IT MIGHT MAKE THEM FEEL

BETTER.

>> YEAH.

>> WHAT IS IT THAT DRIVES YOU TO

DO THIS?

>> SO, I MEAN...

WHEN I WAS 16, WE HAD TO STAY

IN A SHELTER.

THE DIRECTOR OF THE SHELTER PUT

US IN FOSTER CARE.

"I WANT TO BE A MUSIC PRODUCER.

I WANT TO MAKE BEATS AND

EVERYTHING."

AND THEN THAT'S WHEN, LIKE, THE

SOCIAL WORKER WAS LIKE, "YOU'RE

NOT GOING TO, LIKE, BE ANYTHING.

LIKE, YOU CAN'T MAKE MUSIC."

THEY DIDN'T TAKE ME SERIOUSLY.

I REALLY GOT PISSED OFF.

>> IF YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A

NAME FOR YOURSELF, THIS ISN'T

HOW YOU DO IT.

YOU HAVE TO WORK HARD.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE MISTAKES.

YOU HAVE TO FIND OUT FOR

YOURSELF.

BUT THE MAIN THING ABOUT IT IS

THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THE WORK.

YOU JUST CAN'T GET IT OVERNIGHT

LIKE THAT.

IF NOBODY CAN TRUST YOU, THEN

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PUT

THEMSELVES OUT THERE TO EVEN TRY

TO GET TO KNOW YOU TO EVEN GIVE

YOU THAT RESPECT THAT YOU'RE

TRYING TO GET FROM THEM.

>> YOU'RE TOO SMART TO BE DOING

WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND IT WOULD

SUCK TO SEE YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE

SOME OF THESE BAD DECISIONS

>> WELL, DEFINITELY THE ROUTE

THAT I'M GOING IS NOT CORRECT,

SO...

I'LL JUST--AND I'LL WORK ON

MYSELF AND, LIKE, GET THINGS

DONE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH HOW I GOT TO

DO IT, SO...

>> WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO

SEEING...

>> THE CHANGES.

>> SEEING THAT HAPPEN.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> YEAH.

>> JUST BE CAREFUL.

>> * PLEASE DON'T THINK *

* I AM WAITING

* ON YOUR SO-CALLED

* PROGRESS

>> I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT

HE HEARD ME, BUT I PUT MY

EVERYTHING INTO IT.

I WAS SERIOUS ABOUT EVERYTHING

I WAS SAYING.

LIKE, THIS ISN'T--YOU CAN'T DO

THIS.

>> YEAH, HE MIGHT NEVER CHANGE

HIS BEHAVIOR, BUT--BUT YOU

CERTAINLY ARE WISER FOR THIS.

>> OH, YEAH.

NOW I KNOW THAT IF IT'S TOO GOOD

TO BE TRUE, THEN IT PROBABLY IS.

[Bernhoft's

Everything Will Be Alright]

>> LUCILLE.

>> HEY, LUCILLE.

WHAT'S UP, GIRL?

>> HI, YOU GUYS.

>> HOW ARE YOU?

>> I'M DOING GOOD.

SCHOOL AND WORK.

>> * EVERYTHING

* WILL BE ALL RIGHT

* THIS MORNING

* EVERYTHING

* GONNA BE ALL RIGHT

>> MEETING KIDD COLE, WHAT DID

THAT LEAVE YOU WITH?

>> I HAVE A BIG HEART, AND

I LIKE TO HELP PEOPLE, AND THAT

CAN BE A BLESSING AND A CURSE.

>> HE IS ONE OF THE MOST INTENSE

CATFISH WE'VE EVER HAD ON THE

SHOW, SO...

>> YEAH.

>> YOU CAN'T FEEL BAD ABOUT

GETTING HOOKED BY HIM.

>> YEAH, THE LATEST THING WITH

HIM--HE'S SAYING THAT HE WAS

THE COPRODUCER OF BEYONCE'S

DRUNKEN LOVE.

>> WOW.

>> YEAH.

>> KID BE BOLD.

>> YEAH.

>> UNBELIEVABLE.

>> HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL SEE HIM

FOR WHO HE IS.

>> AWESOME.

>> ALL RIGHT.

WELL, HANG IN THERE.

GOOD LUCK WITH SCHOOL, AND

HOPEFULLY SOON ENOUGH YOU'LL BE

OUT THERE BUSTING CRIMINALS.

>> OKAY.

>> LET'S DO IT.

>> SOUNDS GOOD.

>> ALL RIGHT, GUYS, TAKE CARE.

>> BYE.

>> BYE, LUCILLE.

>> * THE HATERS

>> * HATERS

>> * THE HATERS GONNA HATE

* BUT JUST GIVE A LITTLE LOVE

* AND THEN YOU WIN 'EM *

* ALL OVER IN THE END

*

>> SHE'S THE BAD ASS GIRL FROM

DEATH PROOF.

"MY CATFISH IS NOT ROMANTIC IN

NATURE."

>> SAYING WE MADE HER UP, AND

GAVE HER CANCER, AND KILLED HER

FOR ATTENTION.

>> SHE'S, LIKE, A SERIAL

SUPER-FAN.

BUT MOST SUPER-FANS DON'T GO

THIS FAR.

>> WAS THE PLAN TO GIVE HER

CANCER AND KILL HER?

WHOSE FUNERAL WAS THAT?

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