Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 2, Episode 6 - Jen & Skylar - full transcript

After being bullied in her past, Jen relies on online communities to establish relationships. After meeting Skylar online, Jen and Skylar immediately hit it off. But they've never met in person. Will consent to a visit from Jen?

>> SO...WE'RE HERE.

YOU'RE--YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.

>> YEAH.

>> WE'LL JUST WAIT SORT OF OVER

HERE.

LET HIM COME DOWN.

HI, I'M NEV, AND THIS IS MY

FILMMAKER BUDDY MAX.

LAST YEAR, WE TRAVELED ACROSS

THE COUNTRY FIGURING OUT

THE TRUTH BEHIND ONLINE



ROMANCES.

I'M READY TO COME MEET YOU IF

YOU THINK YOU'RE REALLY READY.

>> I'M DEFINITELY READY.

>> ALONG THE WAY, WE OPENED

DOORS TO SOME BIG SURPRISES.

>> WAIT, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS.

>> WE MADE A FEW LOVE

CONNECTIONS...

>> FEELS AMAZING.

>> AND EVEN DID OUR FAIR SHARE

OF MENDING BROKEN HEARTS.

>> I'M SO HAPPY EVERY DAY WHEN I

WAKE UP NOW.



[sniffles]

>> SUDDENLY, THE IDEA OF

CATFISHING--HIDING WHO YOU

REALLY ARE TO HOOK SOMEONE INTO

AN ONLINE RELATIONSHIP...

>> PROBABLY A PAGEANT WINNER,

A MODEL.

>> WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT BY

A LOT OF YOU.

GOT AN EMAIL HERE.

"WHO DID I REALLY FALL IN LOVE

WITH?"

SO MAX AND I ARE HEADED BACK OUT

ON THE ROAD...

MAX, WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO.

TO INVESTIGATE STORIES THAT SEEM

TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE...

>> I AM IN DEREK'S DRIVEWAY.

>> OR TOO WILD TO MAKE UP.

>> HE WAS CARJACKED, AND HE WAS

RAN OVER BY THE CAR.

>> JESUS, MAN.

WILL HOPE BECOME LOVE?

>> OH, MY GOD.

>> OR IS LOVE IN FOR A GIANT

SHOCK?

>> [cries] I DON'T KNOW.

>> YOU CAN BE SURE THAT MAX AND

I WILL FIND OUT ALL

THE ANSWERS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES,

A LITTLE BIT OF FICTION...

>> WOW, CATFISH CURVE BALL.

>> LEADS TO A WHOLE LOT OF

REALITY.

THINGS WILL NEVER BE THE SAME.

>> [laughs]

>> ARE WE READY?

>> LET'S DO IT.

>> CATFISH THE MOVIE WAS MY

STORY.

CATFISH: THE TV SHOW IS YOURS.

>> GO LOWER, COME ON.

>> WELL, IT'S HARDER 'CAUSE

I'M--MY ELBOWS ARE--

>> SHUT UP.

I'M LAPPING YOU.

>> WELL, I ALREADY DID 100

TODAY.

OKAY, YOU READY?

PUMPED UP?

>> [exhales]

>> LET'S LOOK AT SOME EMAIL.

HERE'S AN EMAIL FROM JENNIFER.

"STUCK IN AN ONLINE FRIENDSHIP,

WANT MORE."

"DEAR NEV AND MAX, MY NAME IS

JENNIFER, AND I'M AN 18-YEAR-OLD

SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL.

I LIVE IN A SMALL TOWN IN

SOUTHEAST IOWA CALLED FORT

MADISON.

I MET A GUY NAMED SKYLAR HAZEN

ON AN ONLINE SITE WHERE YOU MEET

AND CHAT WITH PEOPLE ALL OVER

THE WORLD.

YOU CAN BUILD YOUR OWN ROOM AND

INVITE FRIENDS TO HANG OUT WITH

YOU AND PLAY GAMES.

SKYLAR STOOD OUT FROM EVERYONE

TO ME.

HE IS 22 YEARS OLD AND LIVES IN

SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA, AS A

JUNIOR IN COLLEGE FOR COMPUTER

TECH.

HIS PERSONALITY IS WHAT DREW ME

IN.

WE TALK ALMOST EVERY DAY, AND HE

ALWAYS IS INTERESTED IN HOW I

AM."

>> * IT'S THE WAY YOU WEAR *

* YOUR NEW BLUE JEANS

* YOU'RE THE ONE *

* OUT OF MY DREAMS

>> "UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE NEVER

MET BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE AND

THE MONEY CONCERNS.

I'VE MENTIONED VIDEO CHATTING

WITH HIM, BUT HE ALWAYS FOUND AN

EXCUSE FOR US NOT TO."

>> TIME OUT.

HE'S IN SCHOOL FOR COMPUTER

TECH AND HE WON'T VIDEO CHAT

WITH HER?

>> "I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT

HE IS HIDING SOMETHING FROM ME,

EVEN THOUGH I FEEL LIKE I AM

COMPLETELY OPEN WITH HIM.

I HAVE BEEN ONLINE SINCE I WAS

TEN YEARS OLD."

WOW.

"IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, I WAS BULLIED

AND FOUND THAT PEOPLE ONLINE DID

NOT JUDGE ME.

AND SKYLAR IS THE ONE PERSON

THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING INTO

MY REAL WORLD.

I'M GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL, AND

MOVING TO COLLEGE NEXT FALL, AND

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS

TO HAPPEN NOW.

JEN."

>> ALL RIGHT, I WILL POINT OUT

SHE'S 18.

>> AND HE'S 22.

>> AND HE'S 22, SO...

>> I MEAN, THAT IS A BIG DEAL.

AND WHO KNOWS?

HE COULD BE OLDER THAN 22.

>> HERE GOES NOTHING.

[computer chirping]

>> HI!

>> OH, MY GOD, IT'S JEN!

FIRST OF ALL, THE WHOLE THING IS

KIND OF CRAZY.

YOU REALLY KNOW VERY LITTLE

ABOUT THIS GUY.

>> YEAH.

>> WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT HIM?

>> I LOVE HIS PERSONALITY, AND

I LOVE HOW HE TALKS TO ME.

HE'LL CALL ME 90% OF THE TIME.

HE'LL TEXT ME OUT OF THE BLUE.

NORMALLY I DON'T TALK TO PEOPLE

WHO I HAVEN'T VIDEO CHATTED

WITH, BUT I'VE CONTINUED TO TALK

TO HIM BECAUSE THERE'S JUST

SOMETHING ABOUT HIM.

IT'S LIKE, I LIKE HIM A LOT.

>> DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU MIGHT

LOVE HIM?

>> I DON'T KNOW!

>> ARE YOU OFFICIALLY DATING?

>> NO.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE IN A

RELATIONSHIP WITH SKYLAR.

I'M AFRAID OF GETTING MYSELF

HURT, 'CAUSE I TRUST HIM AS MUCH

AS I CAN, BUT THEN THERE'S KIND

OF A LEVEL WHERE I-I JUST--I

CAN'T, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN

HIM.

>> HAVE YOU SEEN REAL PICTURES

OF SKYLAR?

>> UM, I'VE SEEN TWO.

>> SO DID YOU LIKE THE PICTURES

YOU SAW OF HIM?

>> YEAH, HE WAS CUTE.

A CUTE COLLEGE GUY.

HE'S THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE.

>> BUT HE DIDN'T GIVE YOU, LIKE,

A FACEBOOK PAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE

THAT?

>> I ASKED HIM FOR HIS FACEBOOK,

AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE DIDN'T

HAVE ONE.

>> UM...

>> INTERESTING.

>> IT'S A LITTLE WEIRD, THOUGH,

THAT AS A GUY IN THE TECH FIELD,

HE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO VIDEO

CHAT WITH YOU.

>> I DON'T WANT TO PUSH HIM,

BECAUSE I'M AFRAID OF LOSING

HIM, AND I'M AFRAID OF SCARING

HIM OFF.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S MAKING IT HARD

FOR ME TO GO TO ANOTHER LEVEL.

I COULD REALLY USE YOUR HELP, TO

HELP ME MEET THIS GUY SO I--

I WANT TO MEET SKYLAR.

THEN I KNOW THAT EVERYTHING WILL

BE OKAY.

>> YOUR STORY'S TOTALLY

INTERESTING AND DIFFERENT.

I WOULD LOVE TO COME OUT THERE

AND SEE IF WE CAN HELP FIGURE

THIS OUT.

>> THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

>> WE'LL SEE YOU SOON.

>> BYE.

>> I LIKE HER A LOT.

>> SHE'S JUST COMING OUT OF HER

SHELL.

>> THIS GUY SEEMS TO HAVE REALLY

SHOWN AN INTEREST IN HER.

>> BUT SHE CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE

WHAT HE COULD BE HIDING.

>> AND I THINK SHE'S READY FOR A

SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP.

THIS IS, LIKE, A BIG DEAL FOR

HER.

>> LET'S GO TO IOWA.

>> LET'S DO IT.

CLEAR A PATH.

>> THIS IS A TINY PLANE.

TOUCHDOWN IN IOWA.

THIS IS THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.

WOW.

>> YES.

>> I DON'T WANT TO STAY HERE.

>> NO, COME ON.

LET'S GO.

NEV. [bleep].

[laughs]

WELL, SHE SEEMS VERY KIND OF

MATURE BEYOND HER YEARS IN A LOT

OF RESPECTS.

>> SO I DON'T BLAME HER FOR

GOING ONLINE AND FINDING, LIKE,

A MORE MATURE SORT OF GUY, WHO

HAS REAL CONVERSATIONS AND ISN'T

JUST TRYING TO GET TO SECOND

BASE.

>> LET'S JUST HOPE HE IS WHO HE

SAYS HE IS.

[knocking at door]

[dog barking]

DOG--WHOA.

>> HI.

>> HEY, WHAT'S UP?

NICE TO MEET YOU.

>> YOU TOO.

I'M JENNIFER.

>> THIS IS OUR CREW.

>> YEAH, HERE ARE THE BOYS.

>> HI.

>> CAN WE--YEAH, LET'S CHECK IT

OUT.

COME ON, GUYS.

LET'S JUST GET SOMETHING OUT OF

THE WAY.

THE YOUNG MAN THAT YOU'RE

INTERESTED IN MEETING...

>> MM-HMM.

>> HIS NAME IS SKYLAR HAZEN.

>> YEAH.

>> THAT GUY'S NAME IS TYLER

FAISON.

>> [laughs]

>> HOW WEIRD IS THAT?

>> UH, KIND OF WEIRD.

>> SO YOU--SINCE MIDDLE SCHOOL,

YOU'VE BEEN REALLY ACTIVELY

SOCIALIZING ONLINE.

>> BECAUSE PEOPLE IN REAL LIFE

DON'T LIKE TO TALK TO ME, SO I'M

LIKE, I'M GONNA BE WHO I AM

ONLINE.

I'M NOT GONNA MAKE A FAKE

PERSONALITY, 'CAUSE I WANT

PEOPLE TO LIKE ME FOR ME.

>> PEOPLE DON'T LIKE YOU IN REAL

LIFE?

>> NO.

I WAS BULLIED IN MIDDLE SCHOOL,

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY I WAS

ONLINE A LOT.

I WAS HEAVIER, AND I HAD ACNE,

AND PEOPLE JUST, LIKE, DIDN'T

LIKE ME, AND I WAS ALWAYS, LIKE,

LEFT ALONE, SO I JUST DIDN'T

PUT MYSELF OUT THERE ANYMORE,

AND I JUST CAME HOME AND GOT

ONLINE.

>> SO YOUR ONLINE COMMUNITY OF

FRIENDS IS REALLY WHERE YOU DO

GET TO BE YOURSELF AND FEEL

ACCEPTED.

>> SO, LIKE, WITH SKYLAR IS THE

ONLY TIME THAT I CAN COMPLETELY

LET MYSELF GO.

I LOVE HIS VOICE.

I LOVE TALKING TO HIM, SO I LIKE

TO JUST, LIKE, HEAR HIM TALK.

IN PAST RELATIONSHIPS, I'M

ALWAYS THE ONE THAT'S TRYING TO

TO TALK TO THE OTHER PEOPLE.

THEY DON'T TALK TO ME.

AND THE FACT THAT HE'LL CALL ME

FIRST MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

I COMPLETELY BELIEVE THAT HE IS

WHO HE IS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO

GET SERIOUSLY EMOTIONALLY

INVESTED IF HE'S NOT WHO HE SAYS

HE IS.

>> HAVE YOU TOLD YOUR PARENTS

THAT YOU HAVE REAL FEELINGS FOR

SKYLAR?

>> I'VE MENTIONED IT IN THE

PAST.

MY MOM UNDERSTANDS

RELATIONSHIPS, BUT SHE DOESN'T

REALLY UNDERSTAND IT BEING

ONLINE.

>> I MEAN, I AM REALLY CURIOUS

TO SORT OF SEE THIS GUY.

SHOULD WE--

>> I CAN SHOW YOU HIS AVATAR

NOW.

>> OKAY.

>> THERE'S THIS GAME.

THAT'S WHERE I'VE MADE MOST OF

MY FRIENDS, 'CAUSE WE ALL LIKE

TO PLAY IT TOGETHER.

>> YOU WEAR KIND OF A GOLD MONEY

CHAIN AROUND YOUR NECK.

>> GANGSTER.

>> I DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING.

>> PLAYER.

SO LET'S CHECK THIS GUY OUT.

YOU SHOWED US A PICTURE OVER THE

WEB CHAT, BUT, LIKE, I COULDN'T

REALLY SEE HIM.

SO THERE'S SAN FRANCISCO.

I'VE BEEN THERE.

>> AND HE'S THAT ONE.

>> WOW.

HAS HE TALKED ABOUT THESE

FRIENDS AT ALL?

>> NO.

AND THEN THAT ONE, HE'S THAT

ONE.

>> AND THAT'S THE SAME GUY?

IT'S SO HARD TO TELL.

DO YOU HAVE TEXT CONVERSATIONS?

>> YEAH.

>> HE SAYS, "GOOD MORNING,

BABE."

>> AND THEN I SAID, "HOW ARE

YOU?"

"WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR

TONIGHT, LOVELY?"

>> "HEY, BOO."

WHA--YOU--

>> [laughs]

>> WHAT?

I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE TEXTING

EACH OTHER LIKE YOU'RE DATING.

>> YEAH, I GUESS SO.

>> SO THEN WHY NOT VIDEO CHAT?

>> UM, I'VE ASKED HIM A COUPLE

TIMES, BUT HE'S ALWAYS BEEN BUSY

WITH SCHOOL.

I DON'T WANT TO BE ANNOYING,

BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WAS, LIKE,

IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH

SCHOOL, BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO

GET FRIENDS.

EVERYONE CALLED ME ANNOYING.

>> IT'S HARD TO--TO BE DIRECT

WHEN YOU'RE AFRAID OF LOSING

SOMEONE.

>> BUT, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S VERY

LITTLE THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT HIM,

AND THERE'S A CHANCE, AS THERE

ALWAYS IS, THAT HE COULD BE

LYING.

>> YEAH.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO ON

ANOTHER LEVEL WITH HIM, AND I

JUST--

I HAVE TO KNOW.

I HAVE TO HAVE PROOF.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> both: TRUTH.

>> ON THREE? ONE, TWO, THREE.

>> all: TRUTH.

>> I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED,

'CAUSE JEN'S REALLY INTO THIS

GUY.

>> SHE'S OPENED UP A LOT TO HIM,

AND HE'S REALLY TOLD HER VERY

LITTLE.

>> HE'S SORT OF JUST A HUGE

MYSTERY.

>> THAT WORRIES ME.

>> * YOU WANNA TAKE IT SLOW

*I WANNA TAKE IT FAST *

* FASTER THAN A ROCKET SHIP

* HEY, GIRL

* GIRL, GIRL, YOU LOOK SO FINE

* ONE DAY

* I'M GONNA MAKE YOU MINE *

>> LET THE GAMES BEGIN.

>> OKAY, SO JEN MET SKYLAR.

HE SAYS HE LIVES IN CALIFORNIA.

AND HE'S BEEN THE FIRST PERSON

TO EVER REALLY SHOW HER WHAT A

CARING, COMPASSIONATE FRIEND IS.

BUT SHE KNOWS BASICALLY NOTHING

ABOUT HIM, AND HE COULD TURN OUT

TO BE SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN

DISHONEST WITH HER.

>> WE'VE GOT HIS PHONE NUMBER.

WE'VE GOT HIS NAME.

WE'VE GOT HIS SCHOOL.

>> AND WE HAVE TWO PICTURES OF

HIM.

I THINK WE SHOULD START WITH HIS

PHONE NUMBER.

HERE WE GO.

>> WHAT DO WE GOT, WHAT DO WE

GOT?

UNKNOWN NAME, UNKNOWN GENDER,

UNKNOWN AGE, UNKNOWN EMAIL,

UNKNOWN ADDRESS.

CITY AND STATE, MARTINEZ,

CALIFORNIA.

THAT--

>> IT IS NEAR THE BAY AREA.

>> YEAH.

>> SO, I MEAN, THERE IS A CHANCE

IT COULD BE THIS KID.

>> THERE IS A CHANCE.

>> IMAGE SEARCH TIME, BABY.

LET'S SEE WHO'S IN THESE

PICTURES.

READY?

I'M DRAGGING THIS FIRST ONE

OVER, SEE IF ANYTHING COMES UP.

NOTHING.

>> ALL RIGHT, WE'RE TRYING

ANOTHER IMAGE.

AND...NOTHING.

>> ALL RIGHT, SO THE PICTURES,

UNFORTUNATELY, DID NOT HIT, SO

WE'RE NO CLOSER THAN WE WERE.

IT DOESN'T, OBVIOUSLY, HELP US,

BUT AT LEAST THOSE PICTURES

AREN'T CONNECTED TO SOME OTHER

GUY.

THERE COULD BE A SKYLAR HAZEN

REGISTERED AT SAN FRANCISCO

STATE.

>> MAYBE WE CAN CALL THE SCHOOL.

>> YEAH.

>> AND ASK.

[line ringing]

>> HELLO, SUZANNE.

IF I WERE TO JUST SIMPLY ASK YOU

IF YOU HAVE A STUDENT ENROLLED

THERE, AND I GAVE YOU HIS NAME,

COULD YOU CONFIRM OR DENY THAT?

>> LAST NAME HAZEN.

H-A-Z-E-N.

>> SKYLAR.

S-K-Y-L-A-R.

>> HMM.

OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> OKAY, BYE-BYE.

>> WELL...

>> IT CERTAINLY SEEMS THAT THE

SKYLAR THAT JEN'S TALKING TO IS

A LIAR.

>> RIGHT.

>> LET'S THINK.

COME ON, MAX, THERE'S GOT TO BE

SOMETHING ELSE.

>> GO TO THE WEB SEARCH.

SEARCH FOR SKYLAR HAZEN.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS A

SKYLAR HAZEN ON MYLIFE, BUT HE'S

BORN IN '94.

>> SO HE'S HER AGE.

>> HE'S 19.

>> SHE WAS BORN IN '95.

>> THERE IS A SKYLAR HAZEN ON

FACEBOOK.

LIVES IN NEBRASKA.

LOOK, HE'S INTO GAMING.

SO THIS--

>> SO THIS COULD EASILY BE HIM.

>> YEAH.

>> WE FOUND A KID NAMED SKYLAR

HAZEN, A GUY, WHO LIVES IN

NEBRASKA, WHICH IS ONLY ONE

STATE OVER.

>> NOT TOO FAR AWAY.

>> HE LIKES GAMING.

HE'S GOT A FACEBOOK ACCOUNT.

HE'S ON--LISTED ON MYLIFE.

>> YEAH.

I MEAN, IT'S LOOKING MORE AND

MORE LIKE THIS COULD BE OUR GUY.

BUT WHY WOULD A KID PRETENDING

TO BE SOMEBODY SAY HIS NAME IS

SKYLAR HAZEN WITH A FACEBOOK

PAGE, BUT THEN NOT ASSUME THE

GIRL HE STARTS TALKING TO FOR

EIGHT MONTHS IS GONNA, LIKE,

FIND HIM?

HOLD ON A SECOND.

"I'M HIS GIRLFRIEND"?

>> CLICK ON THAT.

>> LOOK, SKYLAR AND HIS

GIRLFRIEND, HOLDING HANDS.

>> UH-OH.

SO IF THIS GUY TURNS OUT TO BE

SOMEONE WHO HAS A GIRLFRIEND...

>> AND BEEN JUST LYING TO HER

THE WHOLE TIME?

I GUESS WE COULD REACH OUT TO

ANY ONE OF THESE PEOPLE AND

SIMPLY ASK THEM IF THEY'VE EVER

HEARD HIM TALK ABOUT A GIRL

NAMED JEN.

>> LET'S REACH OUT TO KING

SLEEPY.

HE SEEMED TO POST A LOT ON THE

PICTURES.

SO KING SLEEPY'S NAME IS AUSTIN.

>> OKAY.

HEY, AUSTIN.

>> JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU A

COUPLE QUESTIONS.

THERE'S ONLY ONE SKYLAR HAZEN ON

THE ENTIRE INTERNET ACROSS THE

ENTIRE WORLD.

HE LIVES IN NEBRASKA, AND HE'S

GOT A GIRLFRIEND.

>> THIS IS THE GUY.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S SLEEP ON

IT, SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

>> SHUTTING DOWN.

DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING?

>> IT'S ONE MESSAGE FROM KING

SLEEPY.

SO LET'S CALL KING SLEEPY.

>> KING SLEEPY MIGHT STILL BE

SLEEPING.

>> YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT

THAT.

[line ringing]

>> YEAH, HI, THIS IS NEV.

I'M LOOKING FOR AUSTIN?

>> SO YOU SAW MY MESSAGE

YESTERDAY.

>> SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF I

COULD ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS

ABOUT YOUR FRIEND, SKYLAR.

>> COOL.

SO IS HE IN A RELATIONSHIP NOW?

>> HOW DID THEY MEET?

>> AND SKYLAR HAS A REALLY GOOD

FRIEND NAMED JEN, RIGHT?

>> YEAH.

>> ALL RIGHT, MAN.

THAT WAS ALL VERY HELPFUL.

HAVE A GOOD DAY.

>> LATER.

>> WELL, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES

THAT HE'S MET ANOTHER GIRL

THROUGH A GAMING SITE, THROUGH A

GAME?

HE MET HER THROUGH A GAME.

>> RIGHT.

[computer chimes]

WE JUST GOT A MESSAGE FROM

SKYLAR HAZEN.

>> WHOA.

>> "HEY, NEV, I'M THAT GUY WHO

YOU TALKED TO KING SLEEPY

ABOUT."

WHOA.

>> GIVE HIM YOUR NUMBER.

WE'RE ABOUT TO GET ON THE PHONE

WITH OUR ONLY SUSPECT RIGHT NOW.

>> THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED

BEFORE...

>> NO.

>> THAT, LIKE, THE PERSON WE

THOUGHT COULD BE THE CATFISH

JUST REACHED OUT TO ME.

[cell phone ringing]

>> THAT'S HIM, THAT'S HIM,

THAT'S HIM.

>> HELLO?

>> HELLO?

>> IS THIS SKYLAR?

>> COOL.

WE CAME ACROSS A GIRL WHO HAS

BEEN TALKING TO A GUY NAMED

SKYLAR HAZEN.

>> NOW, YOU'RE THE ONLY SKYLAR

HAZEN THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND.

I GUESS MY--MY QUESTION IS, DO

YOU HAVE ANY FRIENDS FROM THE

GAMING WEBSITE NAMED JEN?

>> RIGHT.

YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND?

>> GREAT.

UM, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE

SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT THE GUY

THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND I GUESS YOU POTENTIALLY

COULD BE LYING TO ME ABOUT ALL

THIS, BUT I DON'T GET THE

IMPRESSION THAT YOU ARE.

>> I DON'T THINK IT'S HIM.

THANK YOU FOR GETTING IN TOUCH

AND CONTACTING ME.

>> ALL RIGHT, MAN.

>> LATER.

>> WELL, THE GOOD NEWS, IT'S NOT

NEBRASKA SKYLAR, BECAUSE

NEBRASKA SKYLAR REACHED OUT TO

US.

LIKE, IT JUST--IT'S NOT THE GUY.

>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, THEN, WE'RE

BACK TO WHERE WE FEARED WE WOULD

BE, WHICH IS WE LITERALLY HAVE

NO IDEA WHO THIS GUY IS.

[line ringing]

>> YO, JEN.

>> UM, LISTEN, WE GOT A LOT TO

TALK ABOUT, MOSTLY QUESTIONS.

>> SEE YOU IN A LITTLE BIT.

>> HI.

>> HI. WOW.

>> I'M JEFF.

>> JEFF, NEV.

>> HI, I'M JANA.

>> HI, IT'S A PLEASURE.

SO WHAT DO YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT

JEN AND HER WHOLE SORT OF

RELATIONSHIP WITH, UH, SKYLAR?

>> I DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT

ABOUT HER RELATIONSHIP WITH

SKYLAR.

I KNOW THAT THEY'RE FRIENDS.

>> YEAH.

>> I'M HOPING THE OUTCOME IS

GOOD, OBVIOUSLY.

>> SHE'S BEEN A WONDERFUL KID,

AS FAR AS...

SHE'S NEVER GIVEN ME A REASON

NOT TO TRUST HER.

>> WE NOW WANT TO TALK TO HER,

GO OVER ALL THE SORT OF RESEARCH

THAT WE DID INTO SKYLAR.

>> OKAY.

>> DON'T WORRY.

I THINK SHE'LL BE FINE.

>> OH, I WILL HUNT YOU LIKE A

DOG, SO--

[laughter]

>> YIKES.

>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S JUST SORT OF

GO OVER WHAT WE FOUND.

THE FIRST THING WE DID IS WE RAN

THE PHONE NUMBER.

NORMALLY, WE GET A NAME OR AN

ADDRESS OR SOMETHING.

ALL WE GOT WAS SOMEWHERE NEAR

SAN FRANCISCO.

THEN WE JUST SORT OF GOOGLED

SKYLAR HAZEN.

ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT

CAME UP WAS THE FACEBOOK PAGE

FOR THIS KID, SKYLAR HAZEN.

>> UH-HUH.

>> THIS IS THE SKYLAR HAZEN

PROFILE.

AS FAR AS WE COULD TELL, THERE

ARE NO OTHER PEOPLE WITH

FACEBOOK PROFILES WITH THE NAME

SKYLAR HAZEN.

IN THIS CASE, I SPOKE TO HIM.

I SPOKE TO 19-YEAR-OLD SKYLAR

HAZEN FROM NEBRASKA.

I FELT GOOD BECAUSE WE AT LEAST

CONFIRMED THAT IT'S NOT THIS

GUY, SO--

>> WE DON'T THINK IT'S THIS GUY.

IT'S--IT WOULD SEEM UNLIKELY.

>> THAT'S TRUE.

>> I-I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK

NOW.

WHAT--WHAT ELSE IS THERE?

>> WE CALLED SAN FRANCISCO STATE

AND TALKED TO THE REGISTRAR.

AND THERE IS NO RECORD OF A

SKYLAR HAZEN AT SAN FRANCISCO

STATE.

>> I'M REALLY CONFUSED NOW.

LIKE, THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD ME.

LIKE, WHAT ELSE...

LIKE, THEN DOES HE HAVE A

DIFFERENT NAME?

>> YOU NOW KNOW EVERYTHING THAT

WE KNOW.

>> WELL, I KIND OF WANT TO KNOW

WHO I'VE BEEN TALKING TO.

>> EVERYTHING HE'S TOLD YOU

MIGHT BE TRUE, BUT FOR WHATEVER

REASON--AND MAYBE HE JUST SAW

THAT KID'S NAME AND THOUGHT,

"OH, COOL, I'M GONNA USE THAT AS

MY STAGE NAME."

>> I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY

PEOPLE LIE, I GUESS.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, AND

I'M FRUSTRATED THAT HE DID LIE.

[Find It by Family of the Year]

>> * I

* I JUST WANT TO FIND IT

* JUST WANT TO SEE

* WHAT THE MOON'S SHINING ON *

* AND I

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

>> WELL, WE DO KNOW ONE THING

ABOUT HIM.

RIGHT?

>> HIS PHONE NUMBER?

>> RIGHT.

>> I HAVE TO HAVE AN ANSWER.

>> ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA CALL

HIM.

SEE YOU GUYS IN A MINUTE.

>> CAN I HAVE MY DOG?

[phone dialing]

>> ARE YOU ANGRY AT HIM?

>> THIS IS, LIKE, THE ONLY TIME

THAT I'VE EVER LET MYSELF...

OPEN UP TO SOMEONE WHO I, LIKE,

HAVEN'T VIDEO CHATTED WITH,

REALLY, AND IT PROBABLY HAS

BACKFIRED ON ME.

[phone ringing]

>> IS THIS SKYLAR?

THIS IS NEV SCHULMAN FROM THE

MTV SHOW CATFISH.

I DON'T KNOW IF--IF--HAVE YOU--

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE SHOW?

YEAH, I'M NOT SURE I CAN PROVE

THAT TO YOU EXACTLY.

HOWEVER, I CAN TELL YOU THAT I

HAVE RECENTLY MET AND BECOME

FRIENDS WITH A YOUNG LADY NAMED

JENNIFER WHO IS A CLOSE FRIEND

OF YOURS.

WHAT I'M DOING RIGHT NOW IS

BASICALLY...WELL, TRYING TO HELP

YOU GUYS MEET UP.

>> UM...

>> CAN--CAN--CAN YOU GIVE ME

FIVE MORE MINUTES?

SHE REALLY CARES ABOUT YOU.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT JEN?

POSSIBLY--

WE'RE A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT

MAYBE YOU'RE NOT BEING TOTALLY

HONEST WITH HER.

AND WE OBVIOUSLY DID A LITTLE

RESEARCH JUST TO SEE IF WE COULD

FIND ANYTHING OUT ABOUT YOU,

AND--AND THE ONLY THING WE DID

FIND WAS THAT THERE ISN'T

CURRENTLY ANYBODY NAMED SKYLAR

HAZEN REGISTERED AT SAN

FRANCISCO STATE UNIVERSITY.

WELL, I MEAN, LOOK, SOMETIMES

YOU DON'T GET TO CHOOSE EXACTLY

WHEN AND HOW THINGS HAPPEN.

OKAY.

SEE YA.

[door opens]

HEY, YOU GUYS.

[sighs]

OKAY.

I TALKED TO SKYLAR.

HE SAID THAT...

>> YEAH.

>> HE DOES GO TO SAN FRANCISCO

STATE.

WE LEFT THE CONVERSATION

BASICALLY WITH HIM SAYING, "I

DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN RIGHT

NOW, OR IF IT WOULD BE THE RIGHT

TIME."

>> YEAH.

>> BUT...YOU KNOW, THERE'S

NOTHING MORE WE CAN DO RIGHT

NOW, OTHER THAN JUST SORT OF...

CROSS OUR FINGERS.

>> I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM

SKYLAR.

>> REALLY?

>> AS OF THIS MORNING, NOPE.

>> DOES HE NOT CARE?

COME ON, HE'S GOT YOU WAITING TO

COME HELP HIM MEET THE GIRL THAT

HE SUPPOSEDLY LIKES.

>> MORE THAN JUST, "WHO IS

THIS GUY?

IS HE WHO HE SAYS HE IS?"

IS, LIKE, WHAT DOES HE EVEN

WANT?

>> THEN WHY DON'T WE CALL HIM

AND SEE WHAT HIS DEAL IS.

[phone ringing]

>> YEAH, GOOD MORNING, SKYLAR.

HEY, IT'S NEV AGAIN.

>> HEY.

>> HOW YOU DOING?

YOU KNOW, WE'RE--WE'RE RUNNING

OUT OF TIME OVER HERE, SO I JUST

WANTED TO CHECK IN AND SEE IF

YOU'VE MADE UP YOUR MIND ON

WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO GO

THROUGH WITH MEETING JEN THIS

WEEK.

I NEED YOU TO CONVINCE ME A

LITTLE BIT MORE THAT, LIKE,

YOU'RE TAKING THIS AS SERIOUSLY

AS WE ARE AND I--AND AS

SERIOUSLY AS SHE IS.

>> GREAT.

>> OKAY, GREAT.

SO WE'RE GONNA START HEADING TO

SAN FRANCISCO.

ALL RIGHT, LATER.

>> JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE,

LIKE, TAKING FULL OWNERSHIP OF

MEETING HER.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT

WORRIES ME.

WELL, HE SAID YES.

WE'RE PAST THE POINT OF NO

RETURN.

>> YEAH.

>> SAN FRAN.

ALL RIGHT, TIME TO HIT THE ROAD.

HOW ARE YOU FEELING?

>> I'M ALL RIGHT.

>> I SPOKE TO SKYLAR, AND LONG

STORY SHORT, THE ANSWER'S YES,

HE DOES WANT TO MEET YOU.

>> 'KAY.

>> SO WE'RE GOING TO SAN

FRANCISCO.

>> OH...MY...

THIS IS GONNA BE WEIRD.

[laughter]

>> THE UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE

YEAR.

>> OH, MY GOSH, I'M EXCITED NOW.

I-I DON'T KNOW, I--NOW I'M ALL

NERVOUS.

NOW THAT IT'S ACTUALLY

HAPPENING...

>> WELL, YOU BETTER GET PACKING,

'CAUSE WE'VE GOT A PLANE TO

CATCH.

[Survive by Bear Mountain]

WE GOTTA STEP ON THE GAS.

IT'S 3:00 NOW.

OUR FLIGHT FROM CHICAGO IS

AROUND 8:30, SO WE LITERALLY

HAVE FIVE HOURS TO GET TO

CHICAGO.

>> * THAT'S ALL IT TAKES *

* BABE, THAT'S ALL IT TAKES *

>> SO WE ARE LEAVING FOR SAN

FRANCISCO.

IT'LL BE FINE.

>> MOM, DO YOU HAVE ANY WORDS OF

WISDOM?

>> I'M ALWAYS RESPONSIBLE.

>> LOVE YOU.

BYE.

>> IT'S 7:22, AND WE'RE STILL

ABOUT 50 MILES FROM CHICAGO.

SO WE GOTTA BURN RUBBER.

*

>> * THAT'S ALL IT TAKES *

* BABE, THAT'S ALL IT TAKES *

* TO SURVIVE

>> ALMOST THERE. B4.

>> WHEW.

WE ACTUALLY MADE IT.

CRAZY.

[I've Been Alone Too Long by

Sako]

*

>> * I THOUGHT I SAW YOUR FACE

* AT THE END OF THE ALLEY

* IT WAS DARK

* BUT SOMEWHAT PRETTY

>> NEXT STOP, SAN FRANCISCO.

>> * I'VE BEEN ALONE TOO LONG *

* I'VE BEEN ALONE TOO LONG *

* TOO LONG

* TOO LONG, TOO LONG

>> HELLO.

>> HEY, WOW.

>> I'M EXTREMELY NERVOUS, JUST

'CAUSE OF EVERYTHING WE FOUND

OUT.

>> THERE'S SO MUCH WE DON'T KNOW

ABOUT HIM.

>> YEAH.

>> WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HIS

MOTIVES.

>> MM-HMM.

>> I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU,

WE'RE HERE TO JUST BACK YOU UP.

[Addict by Cairo]

*

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT

WE'RE DOING?

>> JUST I'M EXTREMELY NERVOUS

AND EXCITED.

>> I'M NERVOUS AND EXCITED.

>> * ALTHOUGH I TURN MY EYES

* FROM YOU

* I'M FILLED WITH FRIGHT *

* MY LOVE FOR YOU IS EATING ME

* FROM THE INSIDE OUT

* STARVING THE "I DO"

* STARVING THE "I DO"

>> ALL RIGHT, THIS IS THE

STREET, AND THAT'S IT, RIGHT?

ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL PARK HERE.

SO...WE'RE HERE.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?

>> GO.

>> YOU'RE GOOD TO GO?

>> YEAH.

>> SO LET'S CALL HIM, TEXT HIM,

TELL HIM WE'RE DOWNSTAIRS.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL JUST WAIT SORT OF OVER

HERE.

LET'S JUST HANG HERE.

LET HIM COME DOWN.

DON'T WORRY, OKAY?

>> HI.

>> HOW YOU DOING?

>> GOOD.

>> NEV.

>> HI.

>> HI.

>> WHAT'S YOUR NAME?

>> UM, BRYAN.

>> BRYAN.

>> HI.

>> UH, THIS IS JEN.

>> HI.

>> AND WE BROUGHT HER FROM IOWA

JUST LIKE I SAID WE WOULD.

WHAT COMES AS A BIT OF A SHOCK,

I THINK FOR JEN AND ALSO US, IS

THAT YOU'RE NOT THE GUY THAT WE

SAW IN THE PICTURES AND YOUR

NAME'S ALSO NOT SKYLAR.

>> YEAH, I BASICALLY PRETENDED

TO BE SKYLAR.

'CAUSE I NEVER WANTED IT TO

REACH THAT POINT WHERE SHE WOULD

KNOW WHO I AM.

>> SO, L-LET ME JUST GET

THIS STRAIGHT.

SO DO YOU HAVE TRUE FEELINGS FOR

JENNIFER?

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY, LIKE,

EMOTIONAL FEELINGS TOWARDS HER.

I WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO HAVE,

LIKE, A ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP

WITH HER.

>> THEN WHY THE [bleep] ARE WE

HERE?

>> WELL, SHE'S ACTUALLY NOT THE

ONLY GIRL I SPOKE TO, AND I FELT

LIKE, OUT OF ALL THE GIRLS, THIS

IS, LIKE, THE PERFECT TIME, THIS

IS THE PERFECT GIRL, TO FINALLY

COME CLEAN TO AND END, LIKE,

SKYLAR.

>> WHAT ARE YOU EVER HOPING TO

GAIN FROM ALL THESE HALF-TRUE

FRIENDSHIPS THAT YOU HAVE

ONLINE?

WHAT'S THE POINT?

>> I WANTED TO, LIKE, BRUSH UP

MY GAME, AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING

I DID.

>> YOU UNDERSTAND THIS ALL MAKES

YOU LOOK LIKE A HUGE [bleep],

RIGHT?

>> YEAH, YEAH.

>> 'CAUSE I DON'T REALLY GIVE A

[bleep] THAT YOU WANTED TO COME

CLEAN AND SET THE STORY STRAIGHT

FOR ALL THE OTHER GIRLS THAT

YOU'RE BEING A [bleep] TO.

WHY DID I BRING THIS AWESOME,

AMAZING GIRL FROM IOWA SO THAT

YOU COULD CLEAR YOUR CONSCIENCE?

>> 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOOD

FOR HER TO FINALLY KNOW THE

TRUTH, AND--

>> YOU COULD HAVE TOLD HER THAT

ON THE PHONE, THOUGH, RIGHT?

>> YEAH, BUT IN A WAY, I WANTED

TO END SKYLAR, AND I FEEL LIKE,

BY TELLING JEN WHO I AM, THAT

ENDS SKYLAR.

>> RIGHT, BUT THAT'S ALL ABOUT

YOU.

THAT'S YOU TAKING CARE OF YOUR

BUSINESS AND NOT REALLY CARING

ABOUT HOW THAT'S AFFECTING

SOMEONE ELSE.

IT'S KIND OF SELFISH.

>> YEAH, A LITTLE BIT.

>> I DON'T REALLY CARE ANYMORE.

FIRST OF ALL, I'M REALLY

IMPRESSED...

>> I'M PROBABLY GONNA PUKE.

>> AT HOW WELL YOU'RE HANDLING

THIS.

>> SO YOU'RE LITERALLY FISHING

AND HOOKING GIRLS AND THEN JUST

KIND OF TOSSING THEM BACK INTO

THE OCEAN WITH SCARS.

>> I WOULD JUST--YEAH, I WOULD

STOP SPEAKING TO THEM.

>> ARE YOU SORRY?

OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU KIND OF

DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG HERE?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF I'M SORRY,

BUT IT'S--IT IS WHAT IT IS, AND

I WAS GIVING HER, LIKE, A GIFT

OF BEING IN THAT RELATIONSHIP--

>> YOU WERE GIVING HER A GIFT?

>> YEAH, I MEAN, SHE WAS HAPPY,

AND I KNOW I WAS LEADING HER ON,

BUT I KNEW IT WOULD NEVER BE

PERMANENT.

>> YOU TOLD US ON THE PHONE THAT

YOU HAD REAL FEELINGS FOR HER

AND WANTED TO SEE WHERE THIS

WOULD GO, AND THEN YOU JUST KIND

OF COME OUT HERE AND JUST

STRAIGHT UP ARE LIKE, "I HAD NO

EMOTIONAL FEELINGS."

THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID.

>> YEAH.

>> WHICH IS NOT WHAT YOU TOLD US

ON THE PHONE.

>> YEAH.

>> I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE A

HARD LOOK IN THE MIRROR, AND ASK

YOURSELF WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

IT JUST SEEMS REALLY SHALLOW

THAT YOU WOULD LEAD THESE GIRLS

ON TO BRUSH UP ON YOUR GAME.

>> I GUESS IT COULD SEEM THAT

WAY, YEAH.

>> YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SHALLOW,

MISERABLE EXISTENCE, AND PEOPLE

ARE GONNA THINK YOU'RE A

DOUCHE BAG.

>> I GUESS I JUST DON'T

UNDERSTAND, LIKE, WHAT HE WAS

SAYING WITH HOW HE WAS SAYING

WITH HOW HE WAS TRYING TO, LIKE,

"BRUSH UP ON HIS GAME" OR

WHATEVER.

>> YOU'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY

NOW, ON BEHALF OF ALL THE GIRLS

THAT THIS GUY'S BEEN PLAYING

WITH, TO TELL HIM EXACTLY HOW

YOU FEEL ABOUT HIM.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER

THAT.

>> OKAY.

I THOUGHT YOU LIKED ME.

AND APPARENTLY THESE OTHER GIRLS

THOUGHT THAT YOU LIKED THEM,

TOO.

YOU DIDN'T CONSIDER HOW I FELT,

AND YOU LIED TO THEM, AND YOU'RE

WASTING ALL OF THIS TIME AND

YOU'RE WASTING MY TIME.

WHY DID YOU EVEN COME DOWN?

>> I WANTED TO COME CLEAN TO YOU

FACE TO FACE.

>> DID YOU WANT TO COME CLEAN TO

ME, OR DID YOU JUST WANT TO FEEL

BETTER ABOUT YOURSELF?

>> I WANTED TO COME CLEAN TO

YOU, BECAUSE I FELT LIKE YOU

WERE--YOU WERE SPECIAL.

YOU HAVE A COOL PERSONALITY.

YOU'RE DIFFERENT THAN MOST

GIRLS.

>> SO YOU PICKED THE COOLEST

GIRL TO REVEAL HOW MUCH OF AN

[bleep] YOU WERE.

>> IT'S MORE OF A [bleep] MOVE

TO LIE.

>> BUT ARE YOU EVEN ADMITTING

THE FACT THAT YOU'RE A [bleep],

OR ARE YOU JUST SAYING IT

BECAUSE ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE

LOOKING AT YOU?

>> NO, I FEEL LIKE IT'S THE BEST

THING, TO COME CLEAN TO YOU.

>> I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I

BELIEVE THAT.

DID YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT I

DID LIKE YOU?

>> NO, I DIDN'T.

I WASN'T AS CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR

FEELINGS.

>> BY SUCCESSFULLY AVOIDING

BEING YOURSELF WITH THE HANDFUL

OF GIRLS THAT YOU'VE TALKED TO

ON THE INTERNET, YOU'VE NOW

REVEALED YOURSELF TO BASICALLY

WOMEN AROUND THE WORLD FOR

BEING, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHO YOU

ARE.

>> IT'S NOT A GOOD PORTRAIT.

>> ONCE IT REACHED ITS PEAK, I

WOULD BE GONE.

I WOULDN'T DRAG IT ON--

>> EXACTLY.

WHERE WOULD I BE?

WHERE WOULD I BE?

>> YOU HAVE A SENSE OF

SELF-CONFIDENCE.

I KNEW THAT ABOUT HER, I KNEW--

>> HOW DID YOU KNOW?

>> WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS CRUEL.

DO YOU GET THAT?

>> NO.

>> YOU DON'T GET IT.

DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH I STAND

HERE, YOU REALLY DON'T GET IT.

>> YOU'VE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB

OF BEING HONEST AND HOLDING TRUE

TO WHO YOU ARE.

HE'S...A MESS.

IT'S GONNA BE FRUSTRATING, AND

YOU'RE GONNA FEEL ANGER AND A

RESENTMENT FOR HIM, BUT THAT'S

OKAY.

ALL THAT MATTERS IS THAT YOU DID

WHAT WAS RIGHT AND TRUE FOR YOU.

AND THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU'RE

GONNA SET AND THE PEOPLE YOU'RE

GONNA HELP THROUGH THIS MAKES IT

TOTALLY WORTH IT.

>> * I WAS DYING

>> LET'S GET THE [bleep] OUT

OF HERE.

>> * IT HURTS

* ARE YOU CRYING?

*

* IT HURTS

* ARE YOU CRYING?

*

* YOUR CHARADE

>> AND NOW, MORE CATFISH THE TV

SHOW.

STICK AROUND.

>> I WANT THIS GUY TO LEARN AND

UNDERSTAND SOMETHING FROM THIS,

SO THAT WE DON'T JUST LEAVE AND

HE'LL THEN CONTINUE TO GO OUT

INTO THE WORLD AND THEN MESS

WITH PEOPLE.

[phone ringing]

>> HI, NEV.

>> HOW YOU DOING?

WE WERE CURIOUS IF YOU'D BE

INTERESTED IN SITTING DOWN WITH

US FOR A MINUTE TO TALK A LITTLE

BIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED

YESTERDAY AND SORT OF THE WHOLE

SITUATION.

[doorbell chimes]

>> HI.

>> HEY, WHAT'S UP?

>> COME ON IN.

>> SURE, ALL RIGHT.

YESTERDAY WE WERE UPSET,

BECAUSE...PRIMARILY OUR CONCERN

WAS FOR JEN.

YOU MADE A SORT OF CONSCIOUS

DECISION TO ENGAGE WITH THE

PEOPLE YOU'D MET ONLINE, TO WORK

ON YOUR, SORT OF, FEMALE

COMMUNICATIONS SKILLS.

>> IT WASN'T LIKE I SOUGHT OUT

TO GO ONLINE.

IT KIND OF HAPPENED ONLINE JUST

NATURALLY, AND I REALIZED, OKAY,

MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING I CAN DO

WITHOUT GETTING TOO CLOSE TO THE

OTHER PERSON, AND HOPING THAT

THEY WOULDN'T GET TOO CLOSE TO

ME, WITHOUT REALIZING THE

REPERCUSSIONS IT COULD HAVE TO

THE OTHER PERSON.

I MEAN, I'M CERTAINLY NOT

COLD-HEARTED, BUT...

I WAS KIND OF HURT IN THE PAST

BY, LIKE, A GIRL.

I FELT KIND OF UNCOMFORTABLE

TRUSTING, BUILDING A TRUST.

>> BUT WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR

KIND OF PREVIOUS RELATIONSHIP

THAT SCARRED YOU SO MUCH FROM

TRUSTING?

>> JUST SOMEONE KIND OF LEADING

ME ON, PRETENDING TO LIKE ME.

NOT ONLY LEADING ME ON

PHYSICALLY, BUT, LIKE, SHE KNEW

THAT I WAS INVESTED EMOTIONALLY,

THAT I REALIZED SHE WAS DOING

THIS TO OTHER GUYS, TOO.

>> DO YOU HEAR THE SIMILARITIES

BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING SHE

DID TO YOU AND WHAT YOU...

>> YES.

>> DID TO JEN?

>> YES.

I MEAN, I ALWAYS SEPARATED IT

FROM MY REGULAR LIFE.

I NEVER REALLY SAT DOWN AND

ANALYZED IT UNTIL, LIKE, NOW.

NEVER REALLY FACED IT TILL NOW.

>> YEAH, LOOK, WE ALL HAVE DARK

PLACES AND FEELINGS AND ISSUES.

WE ALL HAVE 'EM.

WHAT SEPARATES THE GOOD FROM THE

BAD IN THE WORLD ARE THE PEOPLE

WHO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM AND WORK AT

CHANGING THEM.

>> I AGREE, YEAH.

I THINK IT'S TIME TO CHANGE.

>> I HOPE YOU MEAN IT.

ONE LAST THING...DO NOT CONTACT

JENNIFER EVER AGAIN.

>> I DON'T INTEND TO.

>> SHE'S DONE.

>> YES.

>> GOOD LUCK.

>> THANKS.

>> I REALLY HOPE THIS KID

UNDERSTANDS HOW SERIOUS THIS IS.

HE'LL HAVE TO JUST CHANGE IF HE

EVER THINKS HE'S GOT A CHANCE AT

ANY KIND OF MEANINGFUL

RELATIONSHIP.

[phone line ringing]

>> JEN.

>> HEY.

WE'RE IN THE PARK.

WHERE SHOULD WE MEET YOU?

>> WHERE ARE YOU?

>> [laughs]

HELLO.

I FEEL LIKE I'M DEFINITELY GONNA

BE MORE CAREFUL.

I DON'T WANT TO STOP TALKING TO

PEOPLE, BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE

SURE THAT I KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM

IF I EVEN WANT TO GIVE THEM A

CHANCE TO KNOW ME.

I FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE

WITH MYSELF JUST BY DOING THIS,

AND IT'S HELPED ME TO, LIKE,

FIND MYSELF IN GENERAL AND

FIGURE OUT WHAT I NEED TO LOOK

FOR AND HOW I NEED TO BE AROUND

PEOPLE.

I THINK THIS WEEK IS THE FIRST

TIME I'VE, LIKE, EVER FELT

COMFORTABLE WITH MYSELF.

>> * AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE *

>> ALL RIGHT!

>> * THE OLDER BROTHER

* THAT I NEVER HAD

>> WE'RE JUST GONNA GO AND HAVE

FUN AROUND SAN FRANCISCO.

>> WHOO-HOO!

[computer chiming]

>> HEY, WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON

SINCE WE SAW YOU LAST?

>> JUST SCHOOL AND WORK.

>> THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE AND

MEETING JEN AND US, YOU FEEL

LIKE THAT CHANGED ANYTHING?

>> OH, YEAH, I LEARNED A LOT.

AND I DROPPED THE WHOLE SKYLAR

THING.

FEEL GOOD ABOUT MYSELF.

EVERYTHING'S COOL.

>> GREAT.

I'M HAPPY FOR YOU.

>> THANKS.

>> both: HEY!

>> HI.

>> JENNY!

>> [laughs]

>> YOU LOOK GREAT.

>> THANKS.

I'M JUST IN A GOOD MOOD.

>> YOU STILL TALK TO ALL YOUR

FRIENDS AROUND THE WORLD?

>> OH, YEAH.

I HAVE FRIENDS EVERYWHERE.

PEOPLE WERE, LIKE, TELLING ME

THAT THEY'RE REALLY HAPPY THAT I

WENT ALONG WITH SOMETHING RATHER

THAN JUST, LIKE, HIDING OR,

LIKE, LETTING IT--LIKE,

CONTINUING ON.

>> I HOPE YOUR INTERACTIONS

WITH BRYAN DID NOT DETER YOU

FROM PURSUING GUYS IN THE

FUTURE.

>> [laughs] NO.

>> YOU DESERVE TO BE HAPPY.

YOU'RE AN AWESOME GAL.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT, HAVE A GREAT

SUMMER AND GOOD LUCK WITH

SCHOOL.

>> THANKS.

>> KRISTEN WAS INVOLVED IN A CAR

ACCIDENT.

GLASS SHATTERED, AND IT GOT INTO

HER EYE.

THE DOCTORS COULDN'T FIX IT, SO

SHE HAS A FAKE EYE.

>> WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE GLASS

EYE, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE

LOOKS LIKE.

>> SHE ALWAYS WOULD CALL ME A

LIAR, AND I'M FINDING OUT THAT

SHE'S A LIAR.

I'M JUST GONNA WALK AWAY.

STRAIGHT UP, THAT'S JUST HOW

IT'S GONNA BE.

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