Catfish: The TV Show (2012–…): Season 2, Episode 6 - Jen & Skylar - full transcript
After being bullied in her past, Jen relies on online communities to establish relationships. After meeting Skylar online, Jen and Skylar immediately hit it off. But they've never met in person. Will consent to a visit from Jen?
>> SO...WE'RE HERE.
YOU'RE--YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.
>> YEAH.
>> WE'LL JUST WAIT SORT OF OVER
HERE.
LET HIM COME DOWN.
HI, I'M NEV, AND THIS IS MY
FILMMAKER BUDDY MAX.
LAST YEAR, WE TRAVELED ACROSS
THE COUNTRY FIGURING OUT
THE TRUTH BEHIND ONLINE
ROMANCES.
I'M READY TO COME MEET YOU IF
YOU THINK YOU'RE REALLY READY.
>> I'M DEFINITELY READY.
>> ALONG THE WAY, WE OPENED
DOORS TO SOME BIG SURPRISES.
>> WAIT, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS.
>> WE MADE A FEW LOVE
CONNECTIONS...
>> FEELS AMAZING.
>> AND EVEN DID OUR FAIR SHARE
OF MENDING BROKEN HEARTS.
>> I'M SO HAPPY EVERY DAY WHEN I
WAKE UP NOW.
[sniffles]
>> SUDDENLY, THE IDEA OF
CATFISHING--HIDING WHO YOU
REALLY ARE TO HOOK SOMEONE INTO
AN ONLINE RELATIONSHIP...
>> PROBABLY A PAGEANT WINNER,
A MODEL.
>> WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT BY
A LOT OF YOU.
GOT AN EMAIL HERE.
"WHO DID I REALLY FALL IN LOVE
WITH?"
SO MAX AND I ARE HEADED BACK OUT
ON THE ROAD...
MAX, WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO.
TO INVESTIGATE STORIES THAT SEEM
TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE...
>> I AM IN DEREK'S DRIVEWAY.
>> OR TOO WILD TO MAKE UP.
>> HE WAS CARJACKED, AND HE WAS
RAN OVER BY THE CAR.
>> JESUS, MAN.
WILL HOPE BECOME LOVE?
>> OH, MY GOD.
>> OR IS LOVE IN FOR A GIANT
SHOCK?
>> [cries] I DON'T KNOW.
>> YOU CAN BE SURE THAT MAX AND
I WILL FIND OUT ALL
THE ANSWERS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES,
A LITTLE BIT OF FICTION...
>> WOW, CATFISH CURVE BALL.
>> LEADS TO A WHOLE LOT OF
REALITY.
THINGS WILL NEVER BE THE SAME.
>> [laughs]
>> ARE WE READY?
>> LET'S DO IT.
>> CATFISH THE MOVIE WAS MY
STORY.
CATFISH: THE TV SHOW IS YOURS.
>> GO LOWER, COME ON.
>> WELL, IT'S HARDER 'CAUSE
I'M--MY ELBOWS ARE--
>> SHUT UP.
I'M LAPPING YOU.
>> WELL, I ALREADY DID 100
TODAY.
OKAY, YOU READY?
PUMPED UP?
>> [exhales]
>> LET'S LOOK AT SOME EMAIL.
HERE'S AN EMAIL FROM JENNIFER.
"STUCK IN AN ONLINE FRIENDSHIP,
WANT MORE."
"DEAR NEV AND MAX, MY NAME IS
JENNIFER, AND I'M AN 18-YEAR-OLD
SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL.
I LIVE IN A SMALL TOWN IN
SOUTHEAST IOWA CALLED FORT
MADISON.
I MET A GUY NAMED SKYLAR HAZEN
ON AN ONLINE SITE WHERE YOU MEET
AND CHAT WITH PEOPLE ALL OVER
THE WORLD.
YOU CAN BUILD YOUR OWN ROOM AND
INVITE FRIENDS TO HANG OUT WITH
YOU AND PLAY GAMES.
SKYLAR STOOD OUT FROM EVERYONE
TO ME.
HE IS 22 YEARS OLD AND LIVES IN
SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA, AS A
JUNIOR IN COLLEGE FOR COMPUTER
TECH.
HIS PERSONALITY IS WHAT DREW ME
IN.
WE TALK ALMOST EVERY DAY, AND HE
ALWAYS IS INTERESTED IN HOW I
AM."
>> * IT'S THE WAY YOU WEAR *
* YOUR NEW BLUE JEANS
* YOU'RE THE ONE *
* OUT OF MY DREAMS
>> "UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE NEVER
MET BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE AND
THE MONEY CONCERNS.
I'VE MENTIONED VIDEO CHATTING
WITH HIM, BUT HE ALWAYS FOUND AN
EXCUSE FOR US NOT TO."
>> TIME OUT.
HE'S IN SCHOOL FOR COMPUTER
TECH AND HE WON'T VIDEO CHAT
WITH HER?
>> "I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT
HE IS HIDING SOMETHING FROM ME,
EVEN THOUGH I FEEL LIKE I AM
COMPLETELY OPEN WITH HIM.
I HAVE BEEN ONLINE SINCE I WAS
TEN YEARS OLD."
WOW.
"IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, I WAS BULLIED
AND FOUND THAT PEOPLE ONLINE DID
NOT JUDGE ME.
AND SKYLAR IS THE ONE PERSON
THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING INTO
MY REAL WORLD.
I'M GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL, AND
MOVING TO COLLEGE NEXT FALL, AND
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS
TO HAPPEN NOW.
JEN."
>> ALL RIGHT, I WILL POINT OUT
SHE'S 18.
>> AND HE'S 22.
>> AND HE'S 22, SO...
>> I MEAN, THAT IS A BIG DEAL.
AND WHO KNOWS?
HE COULD BE OLDER THAN 22.
>> HERE GOES NOTHING.
[computer chirping]
>> HI!
>> OH, MY GOD, IT'S JEN!
FIRST OF ALL, THE WHOLE THING IS
KIND OF CRAZY.
YOU REALLY KNOW VERY LITTLE
ABOUT THIS GUY.
>> YEAH.
>> WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT HIM?
>> I LOVE HIS PERSONALITY, AND
I LOVE HOW HE TALKS TO ME.
HE'LL CALL ME 90% OF THE TIME.
HE'LL TEXT ME OUT OF THE BLUE.
NORMALLY I DON'T TALK TO PEOPLE
WHO I HAVEN'T VIDEO CHATTED
WITH, BUT I'VE CONTINUED TO TALK
TO HIM BECAUSE THERE'S JUST
SOMETHING ABOUT HIM.
IT'S LIKE, I LIKE HIM A LOT.
>> DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU MIGHT
LOVE HIM?
>> I DON'T KNOW!
>> ARE YOU OFFICIALLY DATING?
>> NO.
I WOULD LOVE TO BE IN A
RELATIONSHIP WITH SKYLAR.
I'M AFRAID OF GETTING MYSELF
HURT, 'CAUSE I TRUST HIM AS MUCH
AS I CAN, BUT THEN THERE'S KIND
OF A LEVEL WHERE I-I JUST--I
CAN'T, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN
HIM.
>> HAVE YOU SEEN REAL PICTURES
OF SKYLAR?
>> UM, I'VE SEEN TWO.
>> SO DID YOU LIKE THE PICTURES
YOU SAW OF HIM?
>> YEAH, HE WAS CUTE.
A CUTE COLLEGE GUY.
HE'S THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE.
>> BUT HE DIDN'T GIVE YOU, LIKE,
A FACEBOOK PAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE
THAT?
>> I ASKED HIM FOR HIS FACEBOOK,
AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE DIDN'T
HAVE ONE.
>> UM...
>> INTERESTING.
>> IT'S A LITTLE WEIRD, THOUGH,
THAT AS A GUY IN THE TECH FIELD,
HE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO VIDEO
CHAT WITH YOU.
>> I DON'T WANT TO PUSH HIM,
BECAUSE I'M AFRAID OF LOSING
HIM, AND I'M AFRAID OF SCARING
HIM OFF.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S MAKING IT HARD
FOR ME TO GO TO ANOTHER LEVEL.
I COULD REALLY USE YOUR HELP, TO
HELP ME MEET THIS GUY SO I--
I WANT TO MEET SKYLAR.
THEN I KNOW THAT EVERYTHING WILL
BE OKAY.
>> YOUR STORY'S TOTALLY
INTERESTING AND DIFFERENT.
I WOULD LOVE TO COME OUT THERE
AND SEE IF WE CAN HELP FIGURE
THIS OUT.
>> THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
>> WE'LL SEE YOU SOON.
>> BYE.
>> I LIKE HER A LOT.
>> SHE'S JUST COMING OUT OF HER
SHELL.
>> THIS GUY SEEMS TO HAVE REALLY
SHOWN AN INTEREST IN HER.
>> BUT SHE CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE
WHAT HE COULD BE HIDING.
>> AND I THINK SHE'S READY FOR A
SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP.
THIS IS, LIKE, A BIG DEAL FOR
HER.
>> LET'S GO TO IOWA.
>> LET'S DO IT.
CLEAR A PATH.
>> THIS IS A TINY PLANE.
TOUCHDOWN IN IOWA.
THIS IS THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.
WOW.
>> YES.
>> I DON'T WANT TO STAY HERE.
>> NO, COME ON.
LET'S GO.
NEV. [bleep].
[laughs]
WELL, SHE SEEMS VERY KIND OF
MATURE BEYOND HER YEARS IN A LOT
OF RESPECTS.
>> SO I DON'T BLAME HER FOR
GOING ONLINE AND FINDING, LIKE,
A MORE MATURE SORT OF GUY, WHO
HAS REAL CONVERSATIONS AND ISN'T
JUST TRYING TO GET TO SECOND
BASE.
>> LET'S JUST HOPE HE IS WHO HE
SAYS HE IS.
[knocking at door]
[dog barking]
DOG--WHOA.
>> HI.
>> HEY, WHAT'S UP?
NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> YOU TOO.
I'M JENNIFER.
>> THIS IS OUR CREW.
>> YEAH, HERE ARE THE BOYS.
>> HI.
>> CAN WE--YEAH, LET'S CHECK IT
OUT.
COME ON, GUYS.
LET'S JUST GET SOMETHING OUT OF
THE WAY.
THE YOUNG MAN THAT YOU'RE
INTERESTED IN MEETING...
>> MM-HMM.
>> HIS NAME IS SKYLAR HAZEN.
>> YEAH.
>> THAT GUY'S NAME IS TYLER
FAISON.
>> [laughs]
>> HOW WEIRD IS THAT?
>> UH, KIND OF WEIRD.
>> SO YOU--SINCE MIDDLE SCHOOL,
YOU'VE BEEN REALLY ACTIVELY
SOCIALIZING ONLINE.
>> BECAUSE PEOPLE IN REAL LIFE
DON'T LIKE TO TALK TO ME, SO I'M
LIKE, I'M GONNA BE WHO I AM
ONLINE.
I'M NOT GONNA MAKE A FAKE
PERSONALITY, 'CAUSE I WANT
PEOPLE TO LIKE ME FOR ME.
>> PEOPLE DON'T LIKE YOU IN REAL
LIFE?
>> NO.
I WAS BULLIED IN MIDDLE SCHOOL,
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY I WAS
ONLINE A LOT.
I WAS HEAVIER, AND I HAD ACNE,
AND PEOPLE JUST, LIKE, DIDN'T
LIKE ME, AND I WAS ALWAYS, LIKE,
LEFT ALONE, SO I JUST DIDN'T
PUT MYSELF OUT THERE ANYMORE,
AND I JUST CAME HOME AND GOT
ONLINE.
>> SO YOUR ONLINE COMMUNITY OF
FRIENDS IS REALLY WHERE YOU DO
GET TO BE YOURSELF AND FEEL
ACCEPTED.
>> SO, LIKE, WITH SKYLAR IS THE
ONLY TIME THAT I CAN COMPLETELY
LET MYSELF GO.
I LOVE HIS VOICE.
I LOVE TALKING TO HIM, SO I LIKE
TO JUST, LIKE, HEAR HIM TALK.
IN PAST RELATIONSHIPS, I'M
ALWAYS THE ONE THAT'S TRYING TO
TO TALK TO THE OTHER PEOPLE.
THEY DON'T TALK TO ME.
AND THE FACT THAT HE'LL CALL ME
FIRST MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
I COMPLETELY BELIEVE THAT HE IS
WHO HE IS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO
GET SERIOUSLY EMOTIONALLY
INVESTED IF HE'S NOT WHO HE SAYS
HE IS.
>> HAVE YOU TOLD YOUR PARENTS
THAT YOU HAVE REAL FEELINGS FOR
SKYLAR?
>> I'VE MENTIONED IT IN THE
PAST.
MY MOM UNDERSTANDS
RELATIONSHIPS, BUT SHE DOESN'T
REALLY UNDERSTAND IT BEING
ONLINE.
>> I MEAN, I AM REALLY CURIOUS
TO SORT OF SEE THIS GUY.
SHOULD WE--
>> I CAN SHOW YOU HIS AVATAR
NOW.
>> OKAY.
>> THERE'S THIS GAME.
THAT'S WHERE I'VE MADE MOST OF
MY FRIENDS, 'CAUSE WE ALL LIKE
TO PLAY IT TOGETHER.
>> YOU WEAR KIND OF A GOLD MONEY
CHAIN AROUND YOUR NECK.
>> GANGSTER.
>> I DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING.
>> PLAYER.
SO LET'S CHECK THIS GUY OUT.
YOU SHOWED US A PICTURE OVER THE
WEB CHAT, BUT, LIKE, I COULDN'T
REALLY SEE HIM.
SO THERE'S SAN FRANCISCO.
I'VE BEEN THERE.
>> AND HE'S THAT ONE.
>> WOW.
HAS HE TALKED ABOUT THESE
FRIENDS AT ALL?
>> NO.
AND THEN THAT ONE, HE'S THAT
ONE.
>> AND THAT'S THE SAME GUY?
IT'S SO HARD TO TELL.
DO YOU HAVE TEXT CONVERSATIONS?
>> YEAH.
>> HE SAYS, "GOOD MORNING,
BABE."
>> AND THEN I SAID, "HOW ARE
YOU?"
"WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR
TONIGHT, LOVELY?"
>> "HEY, BOO."
WHA--YOU--
>> [laughs]
>> WHAT?
I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE TEXTING
EACH OTHER LIKE YOU'RE DATING.
>> YEAH, I GUESS SO.
>> SO THEN WHY NOT VIDEO CHAT?
>> UM, I'VE ASKED HIM A COUPLE
TIMES, BUT HE'S ALWAYS BEEN BUSY
WITH SCHOOL.
I DON'T WANT TO BE ANNOYING,
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WAS, LIKE,
IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH
SCHOOL, BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO
GET FRIENDS.
EVERYONE CALLED ME ANNOYING.
>> IT'S HARD TO--TO BE DIRECT
WHEN YOU'RE AFRAID OF LOSING
SOMEONE.
>> BUT, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S VERY
LITTLE THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT HIM,
AND THERE'S A CHANCE, AS THERE
ALWAYS IS, THAT HE COULD BE
LYING.
>> YEAH.
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO ON
ANOTHER LEVEL WITH HIM, AND I
JUST--
I HAVE TO KNOW.
I HAVE TO HAVE PROOF.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> both: TRUTH.
>> ON THREE? ONE, TWO, THREE.
>> all: TRUTH.
>> I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED,
'CAUSE JEN'S REALLY INTO THIS
GUY.
>> SHE'S OPENED UP A LOT TO HIM,
AND HE'S REALLY TOLD HER VERY
LITTLE.
>> HE'S SORT OF JUST A HUGE
MYSTERY.
>> THAT WORRIES ME.
>> * YOU WANNA TAKE IT SLOW
*I WANNA TAKE IT FAST *
* FASTER THAN A ROCKET SHIP
* HEY, GIRL
* GIRL, GIRL, YOU LOOK SO FINE
* ONE DAY
* I'M GONNA MAKE YOU MINE *
>> LET THE GAMES BEGIN.
>> OKAY, SO JEN MET SKYLAR.
HE SAYS HE LIVES IN CALIFORNIA.
AND HE'S BEEN THE FIRST PERSON
TO EVER REALLY SHOW HER WHAT A
CARING, COMPASSIONATE FRIEND IS.
BUT SHE KNOWS BASICALLY NOTHING
ABOUT HIM, AND HE COULD TURN OUT
TO BE SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN
DISHONEST WITH HER.
>> WE'VE GOT HIS PHONE NUMBER.
WE'VE GOT HIS NAME.
WE'VE GOT HIS SCHOOL.
>> AND WE HAVE TWO PICTURES OF
HIM.
I THINK WE SHOULD START WITH HIS
PHONE NUMBER.
HERE WE GO.
>> WHAT DO WE GOT, WHAT DO WE
GOT?
UNKNOWN NAME, UNKNOWN GENDER,
UNKNOWN AGE, UNKNOWN EMAIL,
UNKNOWN ADDRESS.
CITY AND STATE, MARTINEZ,
CALIFORNIA.
THAT--
>> IT IS NEAR THE BAY AREA.
>> YEAH.
>> SO, I MEAN, THERE IS A CHANCE
IT COULD BE THIS KID.
>> THERE IS A CHANCE.
>> IMAGE SEARCH TIME, BABY.
LET'S SEE WHO'S IN THESE
PICTURES.
READY?
I'M DRAGGING THIS FIRST ONE
OVER, SEE IF ANYTHING COMES UP.
NOTHING.
>> ALL RIGHT, WE'RE TRYING
ANOTHER IMAGE.
AND...NOTHING.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO THE PICTURES,
UNFORTUNATELY, DID NOT HIT, SO
WE'RE NO CLOSER THAN WE WERE.
IT DOESN'T, OBVIOUSLY, HELP US,
BUT AT LEAST THOSE PICTURES
AREN'T CONNECTED TO SOME OTHER
GUY.
THERE COULD BE A SKYLAR HAZEN
REGISTERED AT SAN FRANCISCO
STATE.
>> MAYBE WE CAN CALL THE SCHOOL.
>> YEAH.
>> AND ASK.
[line ringing]
>> HELLO, SUZANNE.
IF I WERE TO JUST SIMPLY ASK YOU
IF YOU HAVE A STUDENT ENROLLED
THERE, AND I GAVE YOU HIS NAME,
COULD YOU CONFIRM OR DENY THAT?
>> LAST NAME HAZEN.
H-A-Z-E-N.
>> SKYLAR.
S-K-Y-L-A-R.
>> HMM.
OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> OKAY, BYE-BYE.
>> WELL...
>> IT CERTAINLY SEEMS THAT THE
SKYLAR THAT JEN'S TALKING TO IS
A LIAR.
>> RIGHT.
>> LET'S THINK.
COME ON, MAX, THERE'S GOT TO BE
SOMETHING ELSE.
>> GO TO THE WEB SEARCH.
SEARCH FOR SKYLAR HAZEN.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS A
SKYLAR HAZEN ON MYLIFE, BUT HE'S
BORN IN '94.
>> SO HE'S HER AGE.
>> HE'S 19.
>> SHE WAS BORN IN '95.
>> THERE IS A SKYLAR HAZEN ON
FACEBOOK.
LIVES IN NEBRASKA.
LOOK, HE'S INTO GAMING.
SO THIS--
>> SO THIS COULD EASILY BE HIM.
>> YEAH.
>> WE FOUND A KID NAMED SKYLAR
HAZEN, A GUY, WHO LIVES IN
NEBRASKA, WHICH IS ONLY ONE
STATE OVER.
>> NOT TOO FAR AWAY.
>> HE LIKES GAMING.
HE'S GOT A FACEBOOK ACCOUNT.
HE'S ON--LISTED ON MYLIFE.
>> YEAH.
I MEAN, IT'S LOOKING MORE AND
MORE LIKE THIS COULD BE OUR GUY.
BUT WHY WOULD A KID PRETENDING
TO BE SOMEBODY SAY HIS NAME IS
SKYLAR HAZEN WITH A FACEBOOK
PAGE, BUT THEN NOT ASSUME THE
GIRL HE STARTS TALKING TO FOR
EIGHT MONTHS IS GONNA, LIKE,
FIND HIM?
HOLD ON A SECOND.
"I'M HIS GIRLFRIEND"?
>> CLICK ON THAT.
>> LOOK, SKYLAR AND HIS
GIRLFRIEND, HOLDING HANDS.
>> UH-OH.
SO IF THIS GUY TURNS OUT TO BE
SOMEONE WHO HAS A GIRLFRIEND...
>> AND BEEN JUST LYING TO HER
THE WHOLE TIME?
I GUESS WE COULD REACH OUT TO
ANY ONE OF THESE PEOPLE AND
SIMPLY ASK THEM IF THEY'VE EVER
HEARD HIM TALK ABOUT A GIRL
NAMED JEN.
>> LET'S REACH OUT TO KING
SLEEPY.
HE SEEMED TO POST A LOT ON THE
PICTURES.
SO KING SLEEPY'S NAME IS AUSTIN.
>> OKAY.
HEY, AUSTIN.
>> JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU A
COUPLE QUESTIONS.
THERE'S ONLY ONE SKYLAR HAZEN ON
THE ENTIRE INTERNET ACROSS THE
ENTIRE WORLD.
HE LIVES IN NEBRASKA, AND HE'S
GOT A GIRLFRIEND.
>> THIS IS THE GUY.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S SLEEP ON
IT, SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
>> SHUTTING DOWN.
DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING?
>> IT'S ONE MESSAGE FROM KING
SLEEPY.
SO LET'S CALL KING SLEEPY.
>> KING SLEEPY MIGHT STILL BE
SLEEPING.
>> YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT
THAT.
[line ringing]
>> YEAH, HI, THIS IS NEV.
I'M LOOKING FOR AUSTIN?
>> SO YOU SAW MY MESSAGE
YESTERDAY.
>> SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF I
COULD ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS
ABOUT YOUR FRIEND, SKYLAR.
>> COOL.
SO IS HE IN A RELATIONSHIP NOW?
>> HOW DID THEY MEET?
>> AND SKYLAR HAS A REALLY GOOD
FRIEND NAMED JEN, RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
>> ALL RIGHT, MAN.
THAT WAS ALL VERY HELPFUL.
HAVE A GOOD DAY.
>> LATER.
>> WELL, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES
THAT HE'S MET ANOTHER GIRL
THROUGH A GAMING SITE, THROUGH A
GAME?
HE MET HER THROUGH A GAME.
>> RIGHT.
[computer chimes]
WE JUST GOT A MESSAGE FROM
SKYLAR HAZEN.
>> WHOA.
>> "HEY, NEV, I'M THAT GUY WHO
YOU TALKED TO KING SLEEPY
ABOUT."
WHOA.
>> GIVE HIM YOUR NUMBER.
WE'RE ABOUT TO GET ON THE PHONE
WITH OUR ONLY SUSPECT RIGHT NOW.
>> THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED
BEFORE...
>> NO.
>> THAT, LIKE, THE PERSON WE
THOUGHT COULD BE THE CATFISH
JUST REACHED OUT TO ME.
[cell phone ringing]
>> THAT'S HIM, THAT'S HIM,
THAT'S HIM.
>> HELLO?
>> HELLO?
>> IS THIS SKYLAR?
>> COOL.
WE CAME ACROSS A GIRL WHO HAS
BEEN TALKING TO A GUY NAMED
SKYLAR HAZEN.
>> NOW, YOU'RE THE ONLY SKYLAR
HAZEN THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND.
I GUESS MY--MY QUESTION IS, DO
YOU HAVE ANY FRIENDS FROM THE
GAMING WEBSITE NAMED JEN?
>> RIGHT.
YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND?
>> GREAT.
UM, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE
SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT THE GUY
THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND I GUESS YOU POTENTIALLY
COULD BE LYING TO ME ABOUT ALL
THIS, BUT I DON'T GET THE
IMPRESSION THAT YOU ARE.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S HIM.
THANK YOU FOR GETTING IN TOUCH
AND CONTACTING ME.
>> ALL RIGHT, MAN.
>> LATER.
>> WELL, THE GOOD NEWS, IT'S NOT
NEBRASKA SKYLAR, BECAUSE
NEBRASKA SKYLAR REACHED OUT TO
US.
LIKE, IT JUST--IT'S NOT THE GUY.
>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, THEN, WE'RE
BACK TO WHERE WE FEARED WE WOULD
BE, WHICH IS WE LITERALLY HAVE
NO IDEA WHO THIS GUY IS.
[line ringing]
>> YO, JEN.
>> UM, LISTEN, WE GOT A LOT TO
TALK ABOUT, MOSTLY QUESTIONS.
>> SEE YOU IN A LITTLE BIT.
>> HI.
>> HI. WOW.
>> I'M JEFF.
>> JEFF, NEV.
>> HI, I'M JANA.
>> HI, IT'S A PLEASURE.
SO WHAT DO YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT
JEN AND HER WHOLE SORT OF
RELATIONSHIP WITH, UH, SKYLAR?
>> I DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT
ABOUT HER RELATIONSHIP WITH
SKYLAR.
I KNOW THAT THEY'RE FRIENDS.
>> YEAH.
>> I'M HOPING THE OUTCOME IS
GOOD, OBVIOUSLY.
>> SHE'S BEEN A WONDERFUL KID,
AS FAR AS...
SHE'S NEVER GIVEN ME A REASON
NOT TO TRUST HER.
>> WE NOW WANT TO TALK TO HER,
GO OVER ALL THE SORT OF RESEARCH
THAT WE DID INTO SKYLAR.
>> OKAY.
>> DON'T WORRY.
I THINK SHE'LL BE FINE.
>> OH, I WILL HUNT YOU LIKE A
DOG, SO--
[laughter]
>> YIKES.
>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S JUST SORT OF
GO OVER WHAT WE FOUND.
THE FIRST THING WE DID IS WE RAN
THE PHONE NUMBER.
NORMALLY, WE GET A NAME OR AN
ADDRESS OR SOMETHING.
ALL WE GOT WAS SOMEWHERE NEAR
SAN FRANCISCO.
THEN WE JUST SORT OF GOOGLED
SKYLAR HAZEN.
ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT
CAME UP WAS THE FACEBOOK PAGE
FOR THIS KID, SKYLAR HAZEN.
>> UH-HUH.
>> THIS IS THE SKYLAR HAZEN
PROFILE.
AS FAR AS WE COULD TELL, THERE
ARE NO OTHER PEOPLE WITH
FACEBOOK PROFILES WITH THE NAME
SKYLAR HAZEN.
IN THIS CASE, I SPOKE TO HIM.
I SPOKE TO 19-YEAR-OLD SKYLAR
HAZEN FROM NEBRASKA.
I FELT GOOD BECAUSE WE AT LEAST
CONFIRMED THAT IT'S NOT THIS
GUY, SO--
>> WE DON'T THINK IT'S THIS GUY.
IT'S--IT WOULD SEEM UNLIKELY.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
>> I-I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK
NOW.
WHAT--WHAT ELSE IS THERE?
>> WE CALLED SAN FRANCISCO STATE
AND TALKED TO THE REGISTRAR.
AND THERE IS NO RECORD OF A
SKYLAR HAZEN AT SAN FRANCISCO
STATE.
>> I'M REALLY CONFUSED NOW.
LIKE, THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD ME.
LIKE, WHAT ELSE...
LIKE, THEN DOES HE HAVE A
DIFFERENT NAME?
>> YOU NOW KNOW EVERYTHING THAT
WE KNOW.
>> WELL, I KIND OF WANT TO KNOW
WHO I'VE BEEN TALKING TO.
>> EVERYTHING HE'S TOLD YOU
MIGHT BE TRUE, BUT FOR WHATEVER
REASON--AND MAYBE HE JUST SAW
THAT KID'S NAME AND THOUGHT,
"OH, COOL, I'M GONNA USE THAT AS
MY STAGE NAME."
>> I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY
PEOPLE LIE, I GUESS.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, AND
I'M FRUSTRATED THAT HE DID LIE.
[Find It by Family of the Year]
>> * I
* I JUST WANT TO FIND IT
* JUST WANT TO SEE
* WHAT THE MOON'S SHINING ON *
* AND I
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
>> WELL, WE DO KNOW ONE THING
ABOUT HIM.
RIGHT?
>> HIS PHONE NUMBER?
>> RIGHT.
>> I HAVE TO HAVE AN ANSWER.
>> ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA CALL
HIM.
SEE YOU GUYS IN A MINUTE.
>> CAN I HAVE MY DOG?
[phone dialing]
>> ARE YOU ANGRY AT HIM?
>> THIS IS, LIKE, THE ONLY TIME
THAT I'VE EVER LET MYSELF...
OPEN UP TO SOMEONE WHO I, LIKE,
HAVEN'T VIDEO CHATTED WITH,
REALLY, AND IT PROBABLY HAS
BACKFIRED ON ME.
[phone ringing]
>> IS THIS SKYLAR?
THIS IS NEV SCHULMAN FROM THE
MTV SHOW CATFISH.
I DON'T KNOW IF--IF--HAVE YOU--
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE SHOW?
YEAH, I'M NOT SURE I CAN PROVE
THAT TO YOU EXACTLY.
HOWEVER, I CAN TELL YOU THAT I
HAVE RECENTLY MET AND BECOME
FRIENDS WITH A YOUNG LADY NAMED
JENNIFER WHO IS A CLOSE FRIEND
OF YOURS.
WHAT I'M DOING RIGHT NOW IS
BASICALLY...WELL, TRYING TO HELP
YOU GUYS MEET UP.
>> UM...
>> CAN--CAN--CAN YOU GIVE ME
FIVE MORE MINUTES?
SHE REALLY CARES ABOUT YOU.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT JEN?
POSSIBLY--
WE'RE A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT
MAYBE YOU'RE NOT BEING TOTALLY
HONEST WITH HER.
AND WE OBVIOUSLY DID A LITTLE
RESEARCH JUST TO SEE IF WE COULD
FIND ANYTHING OUT ABOUT YOU,
AND--AND THE ONLY THING WE DID
FIND WAS THAT THERE ISN'T
CURRENTLY ANYBODY NAMED SKYLAR
HAZEN REGISTERED AT SAN
FRANCISCO STATE UNIVERSITY.
WELL, I MEAN, LOOK, SOMETIMES
YOU DON'T GET TO CHOOSE EXACTLY
WHEN AND HOW THINGS HAPPEN.
OKAY.
SEE YA.
[door opens]
HEY, YOU GUYS.
[sighs]
OKAY.
I TALKED TO SKYLAR.
HE SAID THAT...
>> YEAH.
>> HE DOES GO TO SAN FRANCISCO
STATE.
WE LEFT THE CONVERSATION
BASICALLY WITH HIM SAYING, "I
DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN RIGHT
NOW, OR IF IT WOULD BE THE RIGHT
TIME."
>> YEAH.
>> BUT...YOU KNOW, THERE'S
NOTHING MORE WE CAN DO RIGHT
NOW, OTHER THAN JUST SORT OF...
CROSS OUR FINGERS.
>> I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM
SKYLAR.
>> REALLY?
>> AS OF THIS MORNING, NOPE.
>> DOES HE NOT CARE?
COME ON, HE'S GOT YOU WAITING TO
COME HELP HIM MEET THE GIRL THAT
HE SUPPOSEDLY LIKES.
>> MORE THAN JUST, "WHO IS
THIS GUY?
IS HE WHO HE SAYS HE IS?"
IS, LIKE, WHAT DOES HE EVEN
WANT?
>> THEN WHY DON'T WE CALL HIM
AND SEE WHAT HIS DEAL IS.
[phone ringing]
>> YEAH, GOOD MORNING, SKYLAR.
HEY, IT'S NEV AGAIN.
>> HEY.
>> HOW YOU DOING?
YOU KNOW, WE'RE--WE'RE RUNNING
OUT OF TIME OVER HERE, SO I JUST
WANTED TO CHECK IN AND SEE IF
YOU'VE MADE UP YOUR MIND ON
WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO GO
THROUGH WITH MEETING JEN THIS
WEEK.
I NEED YOU TO CONVINCE ME A
LITTLE BIT MORE THAT, LIKE,
YOU'RE TAKING THIS AS SERIOUSLY
AS WE ARE AND I--AND AS
SERIOUSLY AS SHE IS.
>> GREAT.
>> OKAY, GREAT.
SO WE'RE GONNA START HEADING TO
SAN FRANCISCO.
ALL RIGHT, LATER.
>> JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE,
LIKE, TAKING FULL OWNERSHIP OF
MEETING HER.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT
WORRIES ME.
WELL, HE SAID YES.
WE'RE PAST THE POINT OF NO
RETURN.
>> YEAH.
>> SAN FRAN.
ALL RIGHT, TIME TO HIT THE ROAD.
HOW ARE YOU FEELING?
>> I'M ALL RIGHT.
>> I SPOKE TO SKYLAR, AND LONG
STORY SHORT, THE ANSWER'S YES,
HE DOES WANT TO MEET YOU.
>> 'KAY.
>> SO WE'RE GOING TO SAN
FRANCISCO.
>> OH...MY...
THIS IS GONNA BE WEIRD.
[laughter]
>> THE UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE
YEAR.
>> OH, MY GOSH, I'M EXCITED NOW.
I-I DON'T KNOW, I--NOW I'M ALL
NERVOUS.
NOW THAT IT'S ACTUALLY
HAPPENING...
>> WELL, YOU BETTER GET PACKING,
'CAUSE WE'VE GOT A PLANE TO
CATCH.
[Survive by Bear Mountain]
WE GOTTA STEP ON THE GAS.
IT'S 3:00 NOW.
OUR FLIGHT FROM CHICAGO IS
AROUND 8:30, SO WE LITERALLY
HAVE FIVE HOURS TO GET TO
CHICAGO.
>> * THAT'S ALL IT TAKES *
* BABE, THAT'S ALL IT TAKES *
>> SO WE ARE LEAVING FOR SAN
FRANCISCO.
IT'LL BE FINE.
>> MOM, DO YOU HAVE ANY WORDS OF
WISDOM?
>> I'M ALWAYS RESPONSIBLE.
>> LOVE YOU.
BYE.
>> IT'S 7:22, AND WE'RE STILL
ABOUT 50 MILES FROM CHICAGO.
SO WE GOTTA BURN RUBBER.
*
>> * THAT'S ALL IT TAKES *
* BABE, THAT'S ALL IT TAKES *
* TO SURVIVE
>> ALMOST THERE. B4.
>> WHEW.
WE ACTUALLY MADE IT.
CRAZY.
[I've Been Alone Too Long by
Sako]
*
>> * I THOUGHT I SAW YOUR FACE
* AT THE END OF THE ALLEY
* IT WAS DARK
* BUT SOMEWHAT PRETTY
>> NEXT STOP, SAN FRANCISCO.
>> * I'VE BEEN ALONE TOO LONG *
* I'VE BEEN ALONE TOO LONG *
* TOO LONG
* TOO LONG, TOO LONG
>> HELLO.
>> HEY, WOW.
>> I'M EXTREMELY NERVOUS, JUST
'CAUSE OF EVERYTHING WE FOUND
OUT.
>> THERE'S SO MUCH WE DON'T KNOW
ABOUT HIM.
>> YEAH.
>> WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HIS
MOTIVES.
>> MM-HMM.
>> I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU,
WE'RE HERE TO JUST BACK YOU UP.
[Addict by Cairo]
*
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT
WE'RE DOING?
>> JUST I'M EXTREMELY NERVOUS
AND EXCITED.
>> I'M NERVOUS AND EXCITED.
>> * ALTHOUGH I TURN MY EYES
* FROM YOU
* I'M FILLED WITH FRIGHT *
* MY LOVE FOR YOU IS EATING ME
* FROM THE INSIDE OUT
* STARVING THE "I DO"
* STARVING THE "I DO"
>> ALL RIGHT, THIS IS THE
STREET, AND THAT'S IT, RIGHT?
ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL PARK HERE.
SO...WE'RE HERE.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?
>> GO.
>> YOU'RE GOOD TO GO?
>> YEAH.
>> SO LET'S CALL HIM, TEXT HIM,
TELL HIM WE'RE DOWNSTAIRS.
ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL JUST WAIT SORT OF OVER
HERE.
LET'S JUST HANG HERE.
LET HIM COME DOWN.
DON'T WORRY, OKAY?
>> HI.
>> HOW YOU DOING?
>> GOOD.
>> NEV.
>> HI.
>> HI.
>> WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
>> UM, BRYAN.
>> BRYAN.
>> HI.
>> UH, THIS IS JEN.
>> HI.
>> AND WE BROUGHT HER FROM IOWA
JUST LIKE I SAID WE WOULD.
WHAT COMES AS A BIT OF A SHOCK,
I THINK FOR JEN AND ALSO US, IS
THAT YOU'RE NOT THE GUY THAT WE
SAW IN THE PICTURES AND YOUR
NAME'S ALSO NOT SKYLAR.
>> YEAH, I BASICALLY PRETENDED
TO BE SKYLAR.
'CAUSE I NEVER WANTED IT TO
REACH THAT POINT WHERE SHE WOULD
KNOW WHO I AM.
>> SO, L-LET ME JUST GET
THIS STRAIGHT.
SO DO YOU HAVE TRUE FEELINGS FOR
JENNIFER?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY, LIKE,
EMOTIONAL FEELINGS TOWARDS HER.
I WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO HAVE,
LIKE, A ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP
WITH HER.
>> THEN WHY THE [bleep] ARE WE
HERE?
>> WELL, SHE'S ACTUALLY NOT THE
ONLY GIRL I SPOKE TO, AND I FELT
LIKE, OUT OF ALL THE GIRLS, THIS
IS, LIKE, THE PERFECT TIME, THIS
IS THE PERFECT GIRL, TO FINALLY
COME CLEAN TO AND END, LIKE,
SKYLAR.
>> WHAT ARE YOU EVER HOPING TO
GAIN FROM ALL THESE HALF-TRUE
FRIENDSHIPS THAT YOU HAVE
ONLINE?
WHAT'S THE POINT?
>> I WANTED TO, LIKE, BRUSH UP
MY GAME, AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING
I DID.
>> YOU UNDERSTAND THIS ALL MAKES
YOU LOOK LIKE A HUGE [bleep],
RIGHT?
>> YEAH, YEAH.
>> 'CAUSE I DON'T REALLY GIVE A
[bleep] THAT YOU WANTED TO COME
CLEAN AND SET THE STORY STRAIGHT
FOR ALL THE OTHER GIRLS THAT
YOU'RE BEING A [bleep] TO.
WHY DID I BRING THIS AWESOME,
AMAZING GIRL FROM IOWA SO THAT
YOU COULD CLEAR YOUR CONSCIENCE?
>> 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOOD
FOR HER TO FINALLY KNOW THE
TRUTH, AND--
>> YOU COULD HAVE TOLD HER THAT
ON THE PHONE, THOUGH, RIGHT?
>> YEAH, BUT IN A WAY, I WANTED
TO END SKYLAR, AND I FEEL LIKE,
BY TELLING JEN WHO I AM, THAT
ENDS SKYLAR.
>> RIGHT, BUT THAT'S ALL ABOUT
YOU.
THAT'S YOU TAKING CARE OF YOUR
BUSINESS AND NOT REALLY CARING
ABOUT HOW THAT'S AFFECTING
SOMEONE ELSE.
IT'S KIND OF SELFISH.
>> YEAH, A LITTLE BIT.
>> I DON'T REALLY CARE ANYMORE.
FIRST OF ALL, I'M REALLY
IMPRESSED...
>> I'M PROBABLY GONNA PUKE.
>> AT HOW WELL YOU'RE HANDLING
THIS.
>> SO YOU'RE LITERALLY FISHING
AND HOOKING GIRLS AND THEN JUST
KIND OF TOSSING THEM BACK INTO
THE OCEAN WITH SCARS.
>> I WOULD JUST--YEAH, I WOULD
STOP SPEAKING TO THEM.
>> ARE YOU SORRY?
OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU KIND OF
DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG HERE?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF I'M SORRY,
BUT IT'S--IT IS WHAT IT IS, AND
I WAS GIVING HER, LIKE, A GIFT
OF BEING IN THAT RELATIONSHIP--
>> YOU WERE GIVING HER A GIFT?
>> YEAH, I MEAN, SHE WAS HAPPY,
AND I KNOW I WAS LEADING HER ON,
BUT I KNEW IT WOULD NEVER BE
PERMANENT.
>> YOU TOLD US ON THE PHONE THAT
YOU HAD REAL FEELINGS FOR HER
AND WANTED TO SEE WHERE THIS
WOULD GO, AND THEN YOU JUST KIND
OF COME OUT HERE AND JUST
STRAIGHT UP ARE LIKE, "I HAD NO
EMOTIONAL FEELINGS."
THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID.
>> YEAH.
>> WHICH IS NOT WHAT YOU TOLD US
ON THE PHONE.
>> YEAH.
>> I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE A
HARD LOOK IN THE MIRROR, AND ASK
YOURSELF WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
IT JUST SEEMS REALLY SHALLOW
THAT YOU WOULD LEAD THESE GIRLS
ON TO BRUSH UP ON YOUR GAME.
>> I GUESS IT COULD SEEM THAT
WAY, YEAH.
>> YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SHALLOW,
MISERABLE EXISTENCE, AND PEOPLE
ARE GONNA THINK YOU'RE A
DOUCHE BAG.
>> I GUESS I JUST DON'T
UNDERSTAND, LIKE, WHAT HE WAS
SAYING WITH HOW HE WAS SAYING
WITH HOW HE WAS TRYING TO, LIKE,
"BRUSH UP ON HIS GAME" OR
WHATEVER.
>> YOU'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY
NOW, ON BEHALF OF ALL THE GIRLS
THAT THIS GUY'S BEEN PLAYING
WITH, TO TELL HIM EXACTLY HOW
YOU FEEL ABOUT HIM.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER
THAT.
>> OKAY.
I THOUGHT YOU LIKED ME.
AND APPARENTLY THESE OTHER GIRLS
THOUGHT THAT YOU LIKED THEM,
TOO.
YOU DIDN'T CONSIDER HOW I FELT,
AND YOU LIED TO THEM, AND YOU'RE
WASTING ALL OF THIS TIME AND
YOU'RE WASTING MY TIME.
WHY DID YOU EVEN COME DOWN?
>> I WANTED TO COME CLEAN TO YOU
FACE TO FACE.
>> DID YOU WANT TO COME CLEAN TO
ME, OR DID YOU JUST WANT TO FEEL
BETTER ABOUT YOURSELF?
>> I WANTED TO COME CLEAN TO
YOU, BECAUSE I FELT LIKE YOU
WERE--YOU WERE SPECIAL.
YOU HAVE A COOL PERSONALITY.
YOU'RE DIFFERENT THAN MOST
GIRLS.
>> SO YOU PICKED THE COOLEST
GIRL TO REVEAL HOW MUCH OF AN
[bleep] YOU WERE.
>> IT'S MORE OF A [bleep] MOVE
TO LIE.
>> BUT ARE YOU EVEN ADMITTING
THE FACT THAT YOU'RE A [bleep],
OR ARE YOU JUST SAYING IT
BECAUSE ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE
LOOKING AT YOU?
>> NO, I FEEL LIKE IT'S THE BEST
THING, TO COME CLEAN TO YOU.
>> I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I
BELIEVE THAT.
DID YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT I
DID LIKE YOU?
>> NO, I DIDN'T.
I WASN'T AS CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR
FEELINGS.
>> BY SUCCESSFULLY AVOIDING
BEING YOURSELF WITH THE HANDFUL
OF GIRLS THAT YOU'VE TALKED TO
ON THE INTERNET, YOU'VE NOW
REVEALED YOURSELF TO BASICALLY
WOMEN AROUND THE WORLD FOR
BEING, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHO YOU
ARE.
>> IT'S NOT A GOOD PORTRAIT.
>> ONCE IT REACHED ITS PEAK, I
WOULD BE GONE.
I WOULDN'T DRAG IT ON--
>> EXACTLY.
WHERE WOULD I BE?
WHERE WOULD I BE?
>> YOU HAVE A SENSE OF
SELF-CONFIDENCE.
I KNEW THAT ABOUT HER, I KNEW--
>> HOW DID YOU KNOW?
>> WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS CRUEL.
DO YOU GET THAT?
>> NO.
>> YOU DON'T GET IT.
DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH I STAND
HERE, YOU REALLY DON'T GET IT.
>> YOU'VE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB
OF BEING HONEST AND HOLDING TRUE
TO WHO YOU ARE.
HE'S...A MESS.
IT'S GONNA BE FRUSTRATING, AND
YOU'RE GONNA FEEL ANGER AND A
RESENTMENT FOR HIM, BUT THAT'S
OKAY.
ALL THAT MATTERS IS THAT YOU DID
WHAT WAS RIGHT AND TRUE FOR YOU.
AND THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU'RE
GONNA SET AND THE PEOPLE YOU'RE
GONNA HELP THROUGH THIS MAKES IT
TOTALLY WORTH IT.
>> * I WAS DYING
>> LET'S GET THE [bleep] OUT
OF HERE.
>> * IT HURTS
* ARE YOU CRYING?
*
* IT HURTS
* ARE YOU CRYING?
*
* YOUR CHARADE
>> AND NOW, MORE CATFISH THE TV
SHOW.
STICK AROUND.
>> I WANT THIS GUY TO LEARN AND
UNDERSTAND SOMETHING FROM THIS,
SO THAT WE DON'T JUST LEAVE AND
HE'LL THEN CONTINUE TO GO OUT
INTO THE WORLD AND THEN MESS
WITH PEOPLE.
[phone ringing]
>> HI, NEV.
>> HOW YOU DOING?
WE WERE CURIOUS IF YOU'D BE
INTERESTED IN SITTING DOWN WITH
US FOR A MINUTE TO TALK A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
YESTERDAY AND SORT OF THE WHOLE
SITUATION.
[doorbell chimes]
>> HI.
>> HEY, WHAT'S UP?
>> COME ON IN.
>> SURE, ALL RIGHT.
YESTERDAY WE WERE UPSET,
BECAUSE...PRIMARILY OUR CONCERN
WAS FOR JEN.
YOU MADE A SORT OF CONSCIOUS
DECISION TO ENGAGE WITH THE
PEOPLE YOU'D MET ONLINE, TO WORK
ON YOUR, SORT OF, FEMALE
COMMUNICATIONS SKILLS.
>> IT WASN'T LIKE I SOUGHT OUT
TO GO ONLINE.
IT KIND OF HAPPENED ONLINE JUST
NATURALLY, AND I REALIZED, OKAY,
MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING I CAN DO
WITHOUT GETTING TOO CLOSE TO THE
OTHER PERSON, AND HOPING THAT
THEY WOULDN'T GET TOO CLOSE TO
ME, WITHOUT REALIZING THE
REPERCUSSIONS IT COULD HAVE TO
THE OTHER PERSON.
I MEAN, I'M CERTAINLY NOT
COLD-HEARTED, BUT...
I WAS KIND OF HURT IN THE PAST
BY, LIKE, A GIRL.
I FELT KIND OF UNCOMFORTABLE
TRUSTING, BUILDING A TRUST.
>> BUT WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR
KIND OF PREVIOUS RELATIONSHIP
THAT SCARRED YOU SO MUCH FROM
TRUSTING?
>> JUST SOMEONE KIND OF LEADING
ME ON, PRETENDING TO LIKE ME.
NOT ONLY LEADING ME ON
PHYSICALLY, BUT, LIKE, SHE KNEW
THAT I WAS INVESTED EMOTIONALLY,
THAT I REALIZED SHE WAS DOING
THIS TO OTHER GUYS, TOO.
>> DO YOU HEAR THE SIMILARITIES
BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING SHE
DID TO YOU AND WHAT YOU...
>> YES.
>> DID TO JEN?
>> YES.
I MEAN, I ALWAYS SEPARATED IT
FROM MY REGULAR LIFE.
I NEVER REALLY SAT DOWN AND
ANALYZED IT UNTIL, LIKE, NOW.
NEVER REALLY FACED IT TILL NOW.
>> YEAH, LOOK, WE ALL HAVE DARK
PLACES AND FEELINGS AND ISSUES.
WE ALL HAVE 'EM.
WHAT SEPARATES THE GOOD FROM THE
BAD IN THE WORLD ARE THE PEOPLE
WHO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM AND WORK AT
CHANGING THEM.
>> I AGREE, YEAH.
I THINK IT'S TIME TO CHANGE.
>> I HOPE YOU MEAN IT.
ONE LAST THING...DO NOT CONTACT
JENNIFER EVER AGAIN.
>> I DON'T INTEND TO.
>> SHE'S DONE.
>> YES.
>> GOOD LUCK.
>> THANKS.
>> I REALLY HOPE THIS KID
UNDERSTANDS HOW SERIOUS THIS IS.
HE'LL HAVE TO JUST CHANGE IF HE
EVER THINKS HE'S GOT A CHANCE AT
ANY KIND OF MEANINGFUL
RELATIONSHIP.
[phone line ringing]
>> JEN.
>> HEY.
WE'RE IN THE PARK.
WHERE SHOULD WE MEET YOU?
>> WHERE ARE YOU?
>> [laughs]
HELLO.
I FEEL LIKE I'M DEFINITELY GONNA
BE MORE CAREFUL.
I DON'T WANT TO STOP TALKING TO
PEOPLE, BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE
SURE THAT I KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM
IF I EVEN WANT TO GIVE THEM A
CHANCE TO KNOW ME.
I FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE
WITH MYSELF JUST BY DOING THIS,
AND IT'S HELPED ME TO, LIKE,
FIND MYSELF IN GENERAL AND
FIGURE OUT WHAT I NEED TO LOOK
FOR AND HOW I NEED TO BE AROUND
PEOPLE.
I THINK THIS WEEK IS THE FIRST
TIME I'VE, LIKE, EVER FELT
COMFORTABLE WITH MYSELF.
>> * AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE *
>> ALL RIGHT!
>> * THE OLDER BROTHER
* THAT I NEVER HAD
>> WE'RE JUST GONNA GO AND HAVE
FUN AROUND SAN FRANCISCO.
>> WHOO-HOO!
[computer chiming]
>> HEY, WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON
SINCE WE SAW YOU LAST?
>> JUST SCHOOL AND WORK.
>> THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE AND
MEETING JEN AND US, YOU FEEL
LIKE THAT CHANGED ANYTHING?
>> OH, YEAH, I LEARNED A LOT.
AND I DROPPED THE WHOLE SKYLAR
THING.
FEEL GOOD ABOUT MYSELF.
EVERYTHING'S COOL.
>> GREAT.
I'M HAPPY FOR YOU.
>> THANKS.
>> both: HEY!
>> HI.
>> JENNY!
>> [laughs]
>> YOU LOOK GREAT.
>> THANKS.
I'M JUST IN A GOOD MOOD.
>> YOU STILL TALK TO ALL YOUR
FRIENDS AROUND THE WORLD?
>> OH, YEAH.
I HAVE FRIENDS EVERYWHERE.
PEOPLE WERE, LIKE, TELLING ME
THAT THEY'RE REALLY HAPPY THAT I
WENT ALONG WITH SOMETHING RATHER
THAN JUST, LIKE, HIDING OR,
LIKE, LETTING IT--LIKE,
CONTINUING ON.
>> I HOPE YOUR INTERACTIONS
WITH BRYAN DID NOT DETER YOU
FROM PURSUING GUYS IN THE
FUTURE.
>> [laughs] NO.
>> YOU DESERVE TO BE HAPPY.
YOU'RE AN AWESOME GAL.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT, HAVE A GREAT
SUMMER AND GOOD LUCK WITH
SCHOOL.
>> THANKS.
>> KRISTEN WAS INVOLVED IN A CAR
ACCIDENT.
GLASS SHATTERED, AND IT GOT INTO
HER EYE.
THE DOCTORS COULDN'T FIX IT, SO
SHE HAS A FAKE EYE.
>> WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE GLASS
EYE, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE
LOOKS LIKE.
>> SHE ALWAYS WOULD CALL ME A
LIAR, AND I'M FINDING OUT THAT
SHE'S A LIAR.
I'M JUST GONNA WALK AWAY.
STRAIGHT UP, THAT'S JUST HOW
IT'S GONNA BE.
1387
00:40:59.
YOU'RE--YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.
>> YEAH.
>> WE'LL JUST WAIT SORT OF OVER
HERE.
LET HIM COME DOWN.
HI, I'M NEV, AND THIS IS MY
FILMMAKER BUDDY MAX.
LAST YEAR, WE TRAVELED ACROSS
THE COUNTRY FIGURING OUT
THE TRUTH BEHIND ONLINE
ROMANCES.
I'M READY TO COME MEET YOU IF
YOU THINK YOU'RE REALLY READY.
>> I'M DEFINITELY READY.
>> ALONG THE WAY, WE OPENED
DOORS TO SOME BIG SURPRISES.
>> WAIT, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS, GUYS.
>> WE MADE A FEW LOVE
CONNECTIONS...
>> FEELS AMAZING.
>> AND EVEN DID OUR FAIR SHARE
OF MENDING BROKEN HEARTS.
>> I'M SO HAPPY EVERY DAY WHEN I
WAKE UP NOW.
[sniffles]
>> SUDDENLY, THE IDEA OF
CATFISHING--HIDING WHO YOU
REALLY ARE TO HOOK SOMEONE INTO
AN ONLINE RELATIONSHIP...
>> PROBABLY A PAGEANT WINNER,
A MODEL.
>> WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT BY
A LOT OF YOU.
GOT AN EMAIL HERE.
"WHO DID I REALLY FALL IN LOVE
WITH?"
SO MAX AND I ARE HEADED BACK OUT
ON THE ROAD...
MAX, WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO.
TO INVESTIGATE STORIES THAT SEEM
TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE...
>> I AM IN DEREK'S DRIVEWAY.
>> OR TOO WILD TO MAKE UP.
>> HE WAS CARJACKED, AND HE WAS
RAN OVER BY THE CAR.
>> JESUS, MAN.
WILL HOPE BECOME LOVE?
>> OH, MY GOD.
>> OR IS LOVE IN FOR A GIANT
SHOCK?
>> [cries] I DON'T KNOW.
>> YOU CAN BE SURE THAT MAX AND
I WILL FIND OUT ALL
THE ANSWERS, BECAUSE SOMETIMES,
A LITTLE BIT OF FICTION...
>> WOW, CATFISH CURVE BALL.
>> LEADS TO A WHOLE LOT OF
REALITY.
THINGS WILL NEVER BE THE SAME.
>> [laughs]
>> ARE WE READY?
>> LET'S DO IT.
>> CATFISH THE MOVIE WAS MY
STORY.
CATFISH: THE TV SHOW IS YOURS.
>> GO LOWER, COME ON.
>> WELL, IT'S HARDER 'CAUSE
I'M--MY ELBOWS ARE--
>> SHUT UP.
I'M LAPPING YOU.
>> WELL, I ALREADY DID 100
TODAY.
OKAY, YOU READY?
PUMPED UP?
>> [exhales]
>> LET'S LOOK AT SOME EMAIL.
HERE'S AN EMAIL FROM JENNIFER.
"STUCK IN AN ONLINE FRIENDSHIP,
WANT MORE."
"DEAR NEV AND MAX, MY NAME IS
JENNIFER, AND I'M AN 18-YEAR-OLD
SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL.
I LIVE IN A SMALL TOWN IN
SOUTHEAST IOWA CALLED FORT
MADISON.
I MET A GUY NAMED SKYLAR HAZEN
ON AN ONLINE SITE WHERE YOU MEET
AND CHAT WITH PEOPLE ALL OVER
THE WORLD.
YOU CAN BUILD YOUR OWN ROOM AND
INVITE FRIENDS TO HANG OUT WITH
YOU AND PLAY GAMES.
SKYLAR STOOD OUT FROM EVERYONE
TO ME.
HE IS 22 YEARS OLD AND LIVES IN
SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA, AS A
JUNIOR IN COLLEGE FOR COMPUTER
TECH.
HIS PERSONALITY IS WHAT DREW ME
IN.
WE TALK ALMOST EVERY DAY, AND HE
ALWAYS IS INTERESTED IN HOW I
AM."
>> * IT'S THE WAY YOU WEAR *
* YOUR NEW BLUE JEANS
* YOU'RE THE ONE *
* OUT OF MY DREAMS
>> "UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE NEVER
MET BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE AND
THE MONEY CONCERNS.
I'VE MENTIONED VIDEO CHATTING
WITH HIM, BUT HE ALWAYS FOUND AN
EXCUSE FOR US NOT TO."
>> TIME OUT.
HE'S IN SCHOOL FOR COMPUTER
TECH AND HE WON'T VIDEO CHAT
WITH HER?
>> "I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT
HE IS HIDING SOMETHING FROM ME,
EVEN THOUGH I FEEL LIKE I AM
COMPLETELY OPEN WITH HIM.
I HAVE BEEN ONLINE SINCE I WAS
TEN YEARS OLD."
WOW.
"IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, I WAS BULLIED
AND FOUND THAT PEOPLE ONLINE DID
NOT JUDGE ME.
AND SKYLAR IS THE ONE PERSON
THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING INTO
MY REAL WORLD.
I'M GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL, AND
MOVING TO COLLEGE NEXT FALL, AND
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS
TO HAPPEN NOW.
JEN."
>> ALL RIGHT, I WILL POINT OUT
SHE'S 18.
>> AND HE'S 22.
>> AND HE'S 22, SO...
>> I MEAN, THAT IS A BIG DEAL.
AND WHO KNOWS?
HE COULD BE OLDER THAN 22.
>> HERE GOES NOTHING.
[computer chirping]
>> HI!
>> OH, MY GOD, IT'S JEN!
FIRST OF ALL, THE WHOLE THING IS
KIND OF CRAZY.
YOU REALLY KNOW VERY LITTLE
ABOUT THIS GUY.
>> YEAH.
>> WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT HIM?
>> I LOVE HIS PERSONALITY, AND
I LOVE HOW HE TALKS TO ME.
HE'LL CALL ME 90% OF THE TIME.
HE'LL TEXT ME OUT OF THE BLUE.
NORMALLY I DON'T TALK TO PEOPLE
WHO I HAVEN'T VIDEO CHATTED
WITH, BUT I'VE CONTINUED TO TALK
TO HIM BECAUSE THERE'S JUST
SOMETHING ABOUT HIM.
IT'S LIKE, I LIKE HIM A LOT.
>> DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU MIGHT
LOVE HIM?
>> I DON'T KNOW!
>> ARE YOU OFFICIALLY DATING?
>> NO.
I WOULD LOVE TO BE IN A
RELATIONSHIP WITH SKYLAR.
I'M AFRAID OF GETTING MYSELF
HURT, 'CAUSE I TRUST HIM AS MUCH
AS I CAN, BUT THEN THERE'S KIND
OF A LEVEL WHERE I-I JUST--I
CAN'T, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN
HIM.
>> HAVE YOU SEEN REAL PICTURES
OF SKYLAR?
>> UM, I'VE SEEN TWO.
>> SO DID YOU LIKE THE PICTURES
YOU SAW OF HIM?
>> YEAH, HE WAS CUTE.
A CUTE COLLEGE GUY.
HE'S THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE.
>> BUT HE DIDN'T GIVE YOU, LIKE,
A FACEBOOK PAGE OR ANYTHING LIKE
THAT?
>> I ASKED HIM FOR HIS FACEBOOK,
AND HE TOLD ME THAT HE DIDN'T
HAVE ONE.
>> UM...
>> INTERESTING.
>> IT'S A LITTLE WEIRD, THOUGH,
THAT AS A GUY IN THE TECH FIELD,
HE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO VIDEO
CHAT WITH YOU.
>> I DON'T WANT TO PUSH HIM,
BECAUSE I'M AFRAID OF LOSING
HIM, AND I'M AFRAID OF SCARING
HIM OFF.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S MAKING IT HARD
FOR ME TO GO TO ANOTHER LEVEL.
I COULD REALLY USE YOUR HELP, TO
HELP ME MEET THIS GUY SO I--
I WANT TO MEET SKYLAR.
THEN I KNOW THAT EVERYTHING WILL
BE OKAY.
>> YOUR STORY'S TOTALLY
INTERESTING AND DIFFERENT.
I WOULD LOVE TO COME OUT THERE
AND SEE IF WE CAN HELP FIGURE
THIS OUT.
>> THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
>> WE'LL SEE YOU SOON.
>> BYE.
>> I LIKE HER A LOT.
>> SHE'S JUST COMING OUT OF HER
SHELL.
>> THIS GUY SEEMS TO HAVE REALLY
SHOWN AN INTEREST IN HER.
>> BUT SHE CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE
WHAT HE COULD BE HIDING.
>> AND I THINK SHE'S READY FOR A
SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP.
THIS IS, LIKE, A BIG DEAL FOR
HER.
>> LET'S GO TO IOWA.
>> LET'S DO IT.
CLEAR A PATH.
>> THIS IS A TINY PLANE.
TOUCHDOWN IN IOWA.
THIS IS THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.
WOW.
>> YES.
>> I DON'T WANT TO STAY HERE.
>> NO, COME ON.
LET'S GO.
NEV. [bleep].
[laughs]
WELL, SHE SEEMS VERY KIND OF
MATURE BEYOND HER YEARS IN A LOT
OF RESPECTS.
>> SO I DON'T BLAME HER FOR
GOING ONLINE AND FINDING, LIKE,
A MORE MATURE SORT OF GUY, WHO
HAS REAL CONVERSATIONS AND ISN'T
JUST TRYING TO GET TO SECOND
BASE.
>> LET'S JUST HOPE HE IS WHO HE
SAYS HE IS.
[knocking at door]
[dog barking]
DOG--WHOA.
>> HI.
>> HEY, WHAT'S UP?
NICE TO MEET YOU.
>> YOU TOO.
I'M JENNIFER.
>> THIS IS OUR CREW.
>> YEAH, HERE ARE THE BOYS.
>> HI.
>> CAN WE--YEAH, LET'S CHECK IT
OUT.
COME ON, GUYS.
LET'S JUST GET SOMETHING OUT OF
THE WAY.
THE YOUNG MAN THAT YOU'RE
INTERESTED IN MEETING...
>> MM-HMM.
>> HIS NAME IS SKYLAR HAZEN.
>> YEAH.
>> THAT GUY'S NAME IS TYLER
FAISON.
>> [laughs]
>> HOW WEIRD IS THAT?
>> UH, KIND OF WEIRD.
>> SO YOU--SINCE MIDDLE SCHOOL,
YOU'VE BEEN REALLY ACTIVELY
SOCIALIZING ONLINE.
>> BECAUSE PEOPLE IN REAL LIFE
DON'T LIKE TO TALK TO ME, SO I'M
LIKE, I'M GONNA BE WHO I AM
ONLINE.
I'M NOT GONNA MAKE A FAKE
PERSONALITY, 'CAUSE I WANT
PEOPLE TO LIKE ME FOR ME.
>> PEOPLE DON'T LIKE YOU IN REAL
LIFE?
>> NO.
I WAS BULLIED IN MIDDLE SCHOOL,
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY I WAS
ONLINE A LOT.
I WAS HEAVIER, AND I HAD ACNE,
AND PEOPLE JUST, LIKE, DIDN'T
LIKE ME, AND I WAS ALWAYS, LIKE,
LEFT ALONE, SO I JUST DIDN'T
PUT MYSELF OUT THERE ANYMORE,
AND I JUST CAME HOME AND GOT
ONLINE.
>> SO YOUR ONLINE COMMUNITY OF
FRIENDS IS REALLY WHERE YOU DO
GET TO BE YOURSELF AND FEEL
ACCEPTED.
>> SO, LIKE, WITH SKYLAR IS THE
ONLY TIME THAT I CAN COMPLETELY
LET MYSELF GO.
I LOVE HIS VOICE.
I LOVE TALKING TO HIM, SO I LIKE
TO JUST, LIKE, HEAR HIM TALK.
IN PAST RELATIONSHIPS, I'M
ALWAYS THE ONE THAT'S TRYING TO
TO TALK TO THE OTHER PEOPLE.
THEY DON'T TALK TO ME.
AND THE FACT THAT HE'LL CALL ME
FIRST MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
I COMPLETELY BELIEVE THAT HE IS
WHO HE IS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO
GET SERIOUSLY EMOTIONALLY
INVESTED IF HE'S NOT WHO HE SAYS
HE IS.
>> HAVE YOU TOLD YOUR PARENTS
THAT YOU HAVE REAL FEELINGS FOR
SKYLAR?
>> I'VE MENTIONED IT IN THE
PAST.
MY MOM UNDERSTANDS
RELATIONSHIPS, BUT SHE DOESN'T
REALLY UNDERSTAND IT BEING
ONLINE.
>> I MEAN, I AM REALLY CURIOUS
TO SORT OF SEE THIS GUY.
SHOULD WE--
>> I CAN SHOW YOU HIS AVATAR
NOW.
>> OKAY.
>> THERE'S THIS GAME.
THAT'S WHERE I'VE MADE MOST OF
MY FRIENDS, 'CAUSE WE ALL LIKE
TO PLAY IT TOGETHER.
>> YOU WEAR KIND OF A GOLD MONEY
CHAIN AROUND YOUR NECK.
>> GANGSTER.
>> I DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING.
>> PLAYER.
SO LET'S CHECK THIS GUY OUT.
YOU SHOWED US A PICTURE OVER THE
WEB CHAT, BUT, LIKE, I COULDN'T
REALLY SEE HIM.
SO THERE'S SAN FRANCISCO.
I'VE BEEN THERE.
>> AND HE'S THAT ONE.
>> WOW.
HAS HE TALKED ABOUT THESE
FRIENDS AT ALL?
>> NO.
AND THEN THAT ONE, HE'S THAT
ONE.
>> AND THAT'S THE SAME GUY?
IT'S SO HARD TO TELL.
DO YOU HAVE TEXT CONVERSATIONS?
>> YEAH.
>> HE SAYS, "GOOD MORNING,
BABE."
>> AND THEN I SAID, "HOW ARE
YOU?"
"WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR
TONIGHT, LOVELY?"
>> "HEY, BOO."
WHA--YOU--
>> [laughs]
>> WHAT?
I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE TEXTING
EACH OTHER LIKE YOU'RE DATING.
>> YEAH, I GUESS SO.
>> SO THEN WHY NOT VIDEO CHAT?
>> UM, I'VE ASKED HIM A COUPLE
TIMES, BUT HE'S ALWAYS BEEN BUSY
WITH SCHOOL.
I DON'T WANT TO BE ANNOYING,
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WAS, LIKE,
IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH
SCHOOL, BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO
GET FRIENDS.
EVERYONE CALLED ME ANNOYING.
>> IT'S HARD TO--TO BE DIRECT
WHEN YOU'RE AFRAID OF LOSING
SOMEONE.
>> BUT, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S VERY
LITTLE THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT HIM,
AND THERE'S A CHANCE, AS THERE
ALWAYS IS, THAT HE COULD BE
LYING.
>> YEAH.
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO ON
ANOTHER LEVEL WITH HIM, AND I
JUST--
I HAVE TO KNOW.
I HAVE TO HAVE PROOF.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> both: TRUTH.
>> ON THREE? ONE, TWO, THREE.
>> all: TRUTH.
>> I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED,
'CAUSE JEN'S REALLY INTO THIS
GUY.
>> SHE'S OPENED UP A LOT TO HIM,
AND HE'S REALLY TOLD HER VERY
LITTLE.
>> HE'S SORT OF JUST A HUGE
MYSTERY.
>> THAT WORRIES ME.
>> * YOU WANNA TAKE IT SLOW
*I WANNA TAKE IT FAST *
* FASTER THAN A ROCKET SHIP
* HEY, GIRL
* GIRL, GIRL, YOU LOOK SO FINE
* ONE DAY
* I'M GONNA MAKE YOU MINE *
>> LET THE GAMES BEGIN.
>> OKAY, SO JEN MET SKYLAR.
HE SAYS HE LIVES IN CALIFORNIA.
AND HE'S BEEN THE FIRST PERSON
TO EVER REALLY SHOW HER WHAT A
CARING, COMPASSIONATE FRIEND IS.
BUT SHE KNOWS BASICALLY NOTHING
ABOUT HIM, AND HE COULD TURN OUT
TO BE SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN
DISHONEST WITH HER.
>> WE'VE GOT HIS PHONE NUMBER.
WE'VE GOT HIS NAME.
WE'VE GOT HIS SCHOOL.
>> AND WE HAVE TWO PICTURES OF
HIM.
I THINK WE SHOULD START WITH HIS
PHONE NUMBER.
HERE WE GO.
>> WHAT DO WE GOT, WHAT DO WE
GOT?
UNKNOWN NAME, UNKNOWN GENDER,
UNKNOWN AGE, UNKNOWN EMAIL,
UNKNOWN ADDRESS.
CITY AND STATE, MARTINEZ,
CALIFORNIA.
THAT--
>> IT IS NEAR THE BAY AREA.
>> YEAH.
>> SO, I MEAN, THERE IS A CHANCE
IT COULD BE THIS KID.
>> THERE IS A CHANCE.
>> IMAGE SEARCH TIME, BABY.
LET'S SEE WHO'S IN THESE
PICTURES.
READY?
I'M DRAGGING THIS FIRST ONE
OVER, SEE IF ANYTHING COMES UP.
NOTHING.
>> ALL RIGHT, WE'RE TRYING
ANOTHER IMAGE.
AND...NOTHING.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO THE PICTURES,
UNFORTUNATELY, DID NOT HIT, SO
WE'RE NO CLOSER THAN WE WERE.
IT DOESN'T, OBVIOUSLY, HELP US,
BUT AT LEAST THOSE PICTURES
AREN'T CONNECTED TO SOME OTHER
GUY.
THERE COULD BE A SKYLAR HAZEN
REGISTERED AT SAN FRANCISCO
STATE.
>> MAYBE WE CAN CALL THE SCHOOL.
>> YEAH.
>> AND ASK.
[line ringing]
>> HELLO, SUZANNE.
IF I WERE TO JUST SIMPLY ASK YOU
IF YOU HAVE A STUDENT ENROLLED
THERE, AND I GAVE YOU HIS NAME,
COULD YOU CONFIRM OR DENY THAT?
>> LAST NAME HAZEN.
H-A-Z-E-N.
>> SKYLAR.
S-K-Y-L-A-R.
>> HMM.
OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> OKAY, BYE-BYE.
>> WELL...
>> IT CERTAINLY SEEMS THAT THE
SKYLAR THAT JEN'S TALKING TO IS
A LIAR.
>> RIGHT.
>> LET'S THINK.
COME ON, MAX, THERE'S GOT TO BE
SOMETHING ELSE.
>> GO TO THE WEB SEARCH.
SEARCH FOR SKYLAR HAZEN.
>> IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS A
SKYLAR HAZEN ON MYLIFE, BUT HE'S
BORN IN '94.
>> SO HE'S HER AGE.
>> HE'S 19.
>> SHE WAS BORN IN '95.
>> THERE IS A SKYLAR HAZEN ON
FACEBOOK.
LIVES IN NEBRASKA.
LOOK, HE'S INTO GAMING.
SO THIS--
>> SO THIS COULD EASILY BE HIM.
>> YEAH.
>> WE FOUND A KID NAMED SKYLAR
HAZEN, A GUY, WHO LIVES IN
NEBRASKA, WHICH IS ONLY ONE
STATE OVER.
>> NOT TOO FAR AWAY.
>> HE LIKES GAMING.
HE'S GOT A FACEBOOK ACCOUNT.
HE'S ON--LISTED ON MYLIFE.
>> YEAH.
I MEAN, IT'S LOOKING MORE AND
MORE LIKE THIS COULD BE OUR GUY.
BUT WHY WOULD A KID PRETENDING
TO BE SOMEBODY SAY HIS NAME IS
SKYLAR HAZEN WITH A FACEBOOK
PAGE, BUT THEN NOT ASSUME THE
GIRL HE STARTS TALKING TO FOR
EIGHT MONTHS IS GONNA, LIKE,
FIND HIM?
HOLD ON A SECOND.
"I'M HIS GIRLFRIEND"?
>> CLICK ON THAT.
>> LOOK, SKYLAR AND HIS
GIRLFRIEND, HOLDING HANDS.
>> UH-OH.
SO IF THIS GUY TURNS OUT TO BE
SOMEONE WHO HAS A GIRLFRIEND...
>> AND BEEN JUST LYING TO HER
THE WHOLE TIME?
I GUESS WE COULD REACH OUT TO
ANY ONE OF THESE PEOPLE AND
SIMPLY ASK THEM IF THEY'VE EVER
HEARD HIM TALK ABOUT A GIRL
NAMED JEN.
>> LET'S REACH OUT TO KING
SLEEPY.
HE SEEMED TO POST A LOT ON THE
PICTURES.
SO KING SLEEPY'S NAME IS AUSTIN.
>> OKAY.
HEY, AUSTIN.
>> JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU A
COUPLE QUESTIONS.
THERE'S ONLY ONE SKYLAR HAZEN ON
THE ENTIRE INTERNET ACROSS THE
ENTIRE WORLD.
HE LIVES IN NEBRASKA, AND HE'S
GOT A GIRLFRIEND.
>> THIS IS THE GUY.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S SLEEP ON
IT, SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
>> SHUTTING DOWN.
DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING?
>> IT'S ONE MESSAGE FROM KING
SLEEPY.
SO LET'S CALL KING SLEEPY.
>> KING SLEEPY MIGHT STILL BE
SLEEPING.
>> YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT
THAT.
[line ringing]
>> YEAH, HI, THIS IS NEV.
I'M LOOKING FOR AUSTIN?
>> SO YOU SAW MY MESSAGE
YESTERDAY.
>> SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF I
COULD ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS
ABOUT YOUR FRIEND, SKYLAR.
>> COOL.
SO IS HE IN A RELATIONSHIP NOW?
>> HOW DID THEY MEET?
>> AND SKYLAR HAS A REALLY GOOD
FRIEND NAMED JEN, RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
>> ALL RIGHT, MAN.
THAT WAS ALL VERY HELPFUL.
HAVE A GOOD DAY.
>> LATER.
>> WELL, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES
THAT HE'S MET ANOTHER GIRL
THROUGH A GAMING SITE, THROUGH A
GAME?
HE MET HER THROUGH A GAME.
>> RIGHT.
[computer chimes]
WE JUST GOT A MESSAGE FROM
SKYLAR HAZEN.
>> WHOA.
>> "HEY, NEV, I'M THAT GUY WHO
YOU TALKED TO KING SLEEPY
ABOUT."
WHOA.
>> GIVE HIM YOUR NUMBER.
WE'RE ABOUT TO GET ON THE PHONE
WITH OUR ONLY SUSPECT RIGHT NOW.
>> THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED
BEFORE...
>> NO.
>> THAT, LIKE, THE PERSON WE
THOUGHT COULD BE THE CATFISH
JUST REACHED OUT TO ME.
[cell phone ringing]
>> THAT'S HIM, THAT'S HIM,
THAT'S HIM.
>> HELLO?
>> HELLO?
>> IS THIS SKYLAR?
>> COOL.
WE CAME ACROSS A GIRL WHO HAS
BEEN TALKING TO A GUY NAMED
SKYLAR HAZEN.
>> NOW, YOU'RE THE ONLY SKYLAR
HAZEN THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND.
I GUESS MY--MY QUESTION IS, DO
YOU HAVE ANY FRIENDS FROM THE
GAMING WEBSITE NAMED JEN?
>> RIGHT.
YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND?
>> GREAT.
UM, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE
SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT THE GUY
THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND I GUESS YOU POTENTIALLY
COULD BE LYING TO ME ABOUT ALL
THIS, BUT I DON'T GET THE
IMPRESSION THAT YOU ARE.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S HIM.
THANK YOU FOR GETTING IN TOUCH
AND CONTACTING ME.
>> ALL RIGHT, MAN.
>> LATER.
>> WELL, THE GOOD NEWS, IT'S NOT
NEBRASKA SKYLAR, BECAUSE
NEBRASKA SKYLAR REACHED OUT TO
US.
LIKE, IT JUST--IT'S NOT THE GUY.
>> ALL RIGHT, WELL, THEN, WE'RE
BACK TO WHERE WE FEARED WE WOULD
BE, WHICH IS WE LITERALLY HAVE
NO IDEA WHO THIS GUY IS.
[line ringing]
>> YO, JEN.
>> UM, LISTEN, WE GOT A LOT TO
TALK ABOUT, MOSTLY QUESTIONS.
>> SEE YOU IN A LITTLE BIT.
>> HI.
>> HI. WOW.
>> I'M JEFF.
>> JEFF, NEV.
>> HI, I'M JANA.
>> HI, IT'S A PLEASURE.
SO WHAT DO YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT
JEN AND HER WHOLE SORT OF
RELATIONSHIP WITH, UH, SKYLAR?
>> I DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT
ABOUT HER RELATIONSHIP WITH
SKYLAR.
I KNOW THAT THEY'RE FRIENDS.
>> YEAH.
>> I'M HOPING THE OUTCOME IS
GOOD, OBVIOUSLY.
>> SHE'S BEEN A WONDERFUL KID,
AS FAR AS...
SHE'S NEVER GIVEN ME A REASON
NOT TO TRUST HER.
>> WE NOW WANT TO TALK TO HER,
GO OVER ALL THE SORT OF RESEARCH
THAT WE DID INTO SKYLAR.
>> OKAY.
>> DON'T WORRY.
I THINK SHE'LL BE FINE.
>> OH, I WILL HUNT YOU LIKE A
DOG, SO--
[laughter]
>> YIKES.
>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S JUST SORT OF
GO OVER WHAT WE FOUND.
THE FIRST THING WE DID IS WE RAN
THE PHONE NUMBER.
NORMALLY, WE GET A NAME OR AN
ADDRESS OR SOMETHING.
ALL WE GOT WAS SOMEWHERE NEAR
SAN FRANCISCO.
THEN WE JUST SORT OF GOOGLED
SKYLAR HAZEN.
ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT
CAME UP WAS THE FACEBOOK PAGE
FOR THIS KID, SKYLAR HAZEN.
>> UH-HUH.
>> THIS IS THE SKYLAR HAZEN
PROFILE.
AS FAR AS WE COULD TELL, THERE
ARE NO OTHER PEOPLE WITH
FACEBOOK PROFILES WITH THE NAME
SKYLAR HAZEN.
IN THIS CASE, I SPOKE TO HIM.
I SPOKE TO 19-YEAR-OLD SKYLAR
HAZEN FROM NEBRASKA.
I FELT GOOD BECAUSE WE AT LEAST
CONFIRMED THAT IT'S NOT THIS
GUY, SO--
>> WE DON'T THINK IT'S THIS GUY.
IT'S--IT WOULD SEEM UNLIKELY.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
>> I-I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK
NOW.
WHAT--WHAT ELSE IS THERE?
>> WE CALLED SAN FRANCISCO STATE
AND TALKED TO THE REGISTRAR.
AND THERE IS NO RECORD OF A
SKYLAR HAZEN AT SAN FRANCISCO
STATE.
>> I'M REALLY CONFUSED NOW.
LIKE, THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD ME.
LIKE, WHAT ELSE...
LIKE, THEN DOES HE HAVE A
DIFFERENT NAME?
>> YOU NOW KNOW EVERYTHING THAT
WE KNOW.
>> WELL, I KIND OF WANT TO KNOW
WHO I'VE BEEN TALKING TO.
>> EVERYTHING HE'S TOLD YOU
MIGHT BE TRUE, BUT FOR WHATEVER
REASON--AND MAYBE HE JUST SAW
THAT KID'S NAME AND THOUGHT,
"OH, COOL, I'M GONNA USE THAT AS
MY STAGE NAME."
>> I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY
PEOPLE LIE, I GUESS.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, AND
I'M FRUSTRATED THAT HE DID LIE.
[Find It by Family of the Year]
>> * I
* I JUST WANT TO FIND IT
* JUST WANT TO SEE
* WHAT THE MOON'S SHINING ON *
* AND I
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
>> WELL, WE DO KNOW ONE THING
ABOUT HIM.
RIGHT?
>> HIS PHONE NUMBER?
>> RIGHT.
>> I HAVE TO HAVE AN ANSWER.
>> ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA CALL
HIM.
SEE YOU GUYS IN A MINUTE.
>> CAN I HAVE MY DOG?
[phone dialing]
>> ARE YOU ANGRY AT HIM?
>> THIS IS, LIKE, THE ONLY TIME
THAT I'VE EVER LET MYSELF...
OPEN UP TO SOMEONE WHO I, LIKE,
HAVEN'T VIDEO CHATTED WITH,
REALLY, AND IT PROBABLY HAS
BACKFIRED ON ME.
[phone ringing]
>> IS THIS SKYLAR?
THIS IS NEV SCHULMAN FROM THE
MTV SHOW CATFISH.
I DON'T KNOW IF--IF--HAVE YOU--
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE SHOW?
YEAH, I'M NOT SURE I CAN PROVE
THAT TO YOU EXACTLY.
HOWEVER, I CAN TELL YOU THAT I
HAVE RECENTLY MET AND BECOME
FRIENDS WITH A YOUNG LADY NAMED
JENNIFER WHO IS A CLOSE FRIEND
OF YOURS.
WHAT I'M DOING RIGHT NOW IS
BASICALLY...WELL, TRYING TO HELP
YOU GUYS MEET UP.
>> UM...
>> CAN--CAN--CAN YOU GIVE ME
FIVE MORE MINUTES?
SHE REALLY CARES ABOUT YOU.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT JEN?
POSSIBLY--
WE'RE A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT
MAYBE YOU'RE NOT BEING TOTALLY
HONEST WITH HER.
AND WE OBVIOUSLY DID A LITTLE
RESEARCH JUST TO SEE IF WE COULD
FIND ANYTHING OUT ABOUT YOU,
AND--AND THE ONLY THING WE DID
FIND WAS THAT THERE ISN'T
CURRENTLY ANYBODY NAMED SKYLAR
HAZEN REGISTERED AT SAN
FRANCISCO STATE UNIVERSITY.
WELL, I MEAN, LOOK, SOMETIMES
YOU DON'T GET TO CHOOSE EXACTLY
WHEN AND HOW THINGS HAPPEN.
OKAY.
SEE YA.
[door opens]
HEY, YOU GUYS.
[sighs]
OKAY.
I TALKED TO SKYLAR.
HE SAID THAT...
>> YEAH.
>> HE DOES GO TO SAN FRANCISCO
STATE.
WE LEFT THE CONVERSATION
BASICALLY WITH HIM SAYING, "I
DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN RIGHT
NOW, OR IF IT WOULD BE THE RIGHT
TIME."
>> YEAH.
>> BUT...YOU KNOW, THERE'S
NOTHING MORE WE CAN DO RIGHT
NOW, OTHER THAN JUST SORT OF...
CROSS OUR FINGERS.
>> I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM
SKYLAR.
>> REALLY?
>> AS OF THIS MORNING, NOPE.
>> DOES HE NOT CARE?
COME ON, HE'S GOT YOU WAITING TO
COME HELP HIM MEET THE GIRL THAT
HE SUPPOSEDLY LIKES.
>> MORE THAN JUST, "WHO IS
THIS GUY?
IS HE WHO HE SAYS HE IS?"
IS, LIKE, WHAT DOES HE EVEN
WANT?
>> THEN WHY DON'T WE CALL HIM
AND SEE WHAT HIS DEAL IS.
[phone ringing]
>> YEAH, GOOD MORNING, SKYLAR.
HEY, IT'S NEV AGAIN.
>> HEY.
>> HOW YOU DOING?
YOU KNOW, WE'RE--WE'RE RUNNING
OUT OF TIME OVER HERE, SO I JUST
WANTED TO CHECK IN AND SEE IF
YOU'VE MADE UP YOUR MIND ON
WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO GO
THROUGH WITH MEETING JEN THIS
WEEK.
I NEED YOU TO CONVINCE ME A
LITTLE BIT MORE THAT, LIKE,
YOU'RE TAKING THIS AS SERIOUSLY
AS WE ARE AND I--AND AS
SERIOUSLY AS SHE IS.
>> GREAT.
>> OKAY, GREAT.
SO WE'RE GONNA START HEADING TO
SAN FRANCISCO.
ALL RIGHT, LATER.
>> JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE,
LIKE, TAKING FULL OWNERSHIP OF
MEETING HER.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT
WORRIES ME.
WELL, HE SAID YES.
WE'RE PAST THE POINT OF NO
RETURN.
>> YEAH.
>> SAN FRAN.
ALL RIGHT, TIME TO HIT THE ROAD.
HOW ARE YOU FEELING?
>> I'M ALL RIGHT.
>> I SPOKE TO SKYLAR, AND LONG
STORY SHORT, THE ANSWER'S YES,
HE DOES WANT TO MEET YOU.
>> 'KAY.
>> SO WE'RE GOING TO SAN
FRANCISCO.
>> OH...MY...
THIS IS GONNA BE WEIRD.
[laughter]
>> THE UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE
YEAR.
>> OH, MY GOSH, I'M EXCITED NOW.
I-I DON'T KNOW, I--NOW I'M ALL
NERVOUS.
NOW THAT IT'S ACTUALLY
HAPPENING...
>> WELL, YOU BETTER GET PACKING,
'CAUSE WE'VE GOT A PLANE TO
CATCH.
[Survive by Bear Mountain]
WE GOTTA STEP ON THE GAS.
IT'S 3:00 NOW.
OUR FLIGHT FROM CHICAGO IS
AROUND 8:30, SO WE LITERALLY
HAVE FIVE HOURS TO GET TO
CHICAGO.
>> * THAT'S ALL IT TAKES *
* BABE, THAT'S ALL IT TAKES *
>> SO WE ARE LEAVING FOR SAN
FRANCISCO.
IT'LL BE FINE.
>> MOM, DO YOU HAVE ANY WORDS OF
WISDOM?
>> I'M ALWAYS RESPONSIBLE.
>> LOVE YOU.
BYE.
>> IT'S 7:22, AND WE'RE STILL
ABOUT 50 MILES FROM CHICAGO.
SO WE GOTTA BURN RUBBER.
*
>> * THAT'S ALL IT TAKES *
* BABE, THAT'S ALL IT TAKES *
* TO SURVIVE
>> ALMOST THERE. B4.
>> WHEW.
WE ACTUALLY MADE IT.
CRAZY.
[I've Been Alone Too Long by
Sako]
*
>> * I THOUGHT I SAW YOUR FACE
* AT THE END OF THE ALLEY
* IT WAS DARK
* BUT SOMEWHAT PRETTY
>> NEXT STOP, SAN FRANCISCO.
>> * I'VE BEEN ALONE TOO LONG *
* I'VE BEEN ALONE TOO LONG *
* TOO LONG
* TOO LONG, TOO LONG
>> HELLO.
>> HEY, WOW.
>> I'M EXTREMELY NERVOUS, JUST
'CAUSE OF EVERYTHING WE FOUND
OUT.
>> THERE'S SO MUCH WE DON'T KNOW
ABOUT HIM.
>> YEAH.
>> WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HIS
MOTIVES.
>> MM-HMM.
>> I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU,
WE'RE HERE TO JUST BACK YOU UP.
[Addict by Cairo]
*
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT
WE'RE DOING?
>> JUST I'M EXTREMELY NERVOUS
AND EXCITED.
>> I'M NERVOUS AND EXCITED.
>> * ALTHOUGH I TURN MY EYES
* FROM YOU
* I'M FILLED WITH FRIGHT *
* MY LOVE FOR YOU IS EATING ME
* FROM THE INSIDE OUT
* STARVING THE "I DO"
* STARVING THE "I DO"
>> ALL RIGHT, THIS IS THE
STREET, AND THAT'S IT, RIGHT?
ALL RIGHT, SO I'LL PARK HERE.
SO...WE'RE HERE.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO?
>> GO.
>> YOU'RE GOOD TO GO?
>> YEAH.
>> SO LET'S CALL HIM, TEXT HIM,
TELL HIM WE'RE DOWNSTAIRS.
ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL JUST WAIT SORT OF OVER
HERE.
LET'S JUST HANG HERE.
LET HIM COME DOWN.
DON'T WORRY, OKAY?
>> HI.
>> HOW YOU DOING?
>> GOOD.
>> NEV.
>> HI.
>> HI.
>> WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
>> UM, BRYAN.
>> BRYAN.
>> HI.
>> UH, THIS IS JEN.
>> HI.
>> AND WE BROUGHT HER FROM IOWA
JUST LIKE I SAID WE WOULD.
WHAT COMES AS A BIT OF A SHOCK,
I THINK FOR JEN AND ALSO US, IS
THAT YOU'RE NOT THE GUY THAT WE
SAW IN THE PICTURES AND YOUR
NAME'S ALSO NOT SKYLAR.
>> YEAH, I BASICALLY PRETENDED
TO BE SKYLAR.
'CAUSE I NEVER WANTED IT TO
REACH THAT POINT WHERE SHE WOULD
KNOW WHO I AM.
>> SO, L-LET ME JUST GET
THIS STRAIGHT.
SO DO YOU HAVE TRUE FEELINGS FOR
JENNIFER?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY, LIKE,
EMOTIONAL FEELINGS TOWARDS HER.
I WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO HAVE,
LIKE, A ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP
WITH HER.
>> THEN WHY THE [bleep] ARE WE
HERE?
>> WELL, SHE'S ACTUALLY NOT THE
ONLY GIRL I SPOKE TO, AND I FELT
LIKE, OUT OF ALL THE GIRLS, THIS
IS, LIKE, THE PERFECT TIME, THIS
IS THE PERFECT GIRL, TO FINALLY
COME CLEAN TO AND END, LIKE,
SKYLAR.
>> WHAT ARE YOU EVER HOPING TO
GAIN FROM ALL THESE HALF-TRUE
FRIENDSHIPS THAT YOU HAVE
ONLINE?
WHAT'S THE POINT?
>> I WANTED TO, LIKE, BRUSH UP
MY GAME, AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING
I DID.
>> YOU UNDERSTAND THIS ALL MAKES
YOU LOOK LIKE A HUGE [bleep],
RIGHT?
>> YEAH, YEAH.
>> 'CAUSE I DON'T REALLY GIVE A
[bleep] THAT YOU WANTED TO COME
CLEAN AND SET THE STORY STRAIGHT
FOR ALL THE OTHER GIRLS THAT
YOU'RE BEING A [bleep] TO.
WHY DID I BRING THIS AWESOME,
AMAZING GIRL FROM IOWA SO THAT
YOU COULD CLEAR YOUR CONSCIENCE?
>> 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S GOOD
FOR HER TO FINALLY KNOW THE
TRUTH, AND--
>> YOU COULD HAVE TOLD HER THAT
ON THE PHONE, THOUGH, RIGHT?
>> YEAH, BUT IN A WAY, I WANTED
TO END SKYLAR, AND I FEEL LIKE,
BY TELLING JEN WHO I AM, THAT
ENDS SKYLAR.
>> RIGHT, BUT THAT'S ALL ABOUT
YOU.
THAT'S YOU TAKING CARE OF YOUR
BUSINESS AND NOT REALLY CARING
ABOUT HOW THAT'S AFFECTING
SOMEONE ELSE.
IT'S KIND OF SELFISH.
>> YEAH, A LITTLE BIT.
>> I DON'T REALLY CARE ANYMORE.
FIRST OF ALL, I'M REALLY
IMPRESSED...
>> I'M PROBABLY GONNA PUKE.
>> AT HOW WELL YOU'RE HANDLING
THIS.
>> SO YOU'RE LITERALLY FISHING
AND HOOKING GIRLS AND THEN JUST
KIND OF TOSSING THEM BACK INTO
THE OCEAN WITH SCARS.
>> I WOULD JUST--YEAH, I WOULD
STOP SPEAKING TO THEM.
>> ARE YOU SORRY?
OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU KIND OF
DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG HERE?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF I'M SORRY,
BUT IT'S--IT IS WHAT IT IS, AND
I WAS GIVING HER, LIKE, A GIFT
OF BEING IN THAT RELATIONSHIP--
>> YOU WERE GIVING HER A GIFT?
>> YEAH, I MEAN, SHE WAS HAPPY,
AND I KNOW I WAS LEADING HER ON,
BUT I KNEW IT WOULD NEVER BE
PERMANENT.
>> YOU TOLD US ON THE PHONE THAT
YOU HAD REAL FEELINGS FOR HER
AND WANTED TO SEE WHERE THIS
WOULD GO, AND THEN YOU JUST KIND
OF COME OUT HERE AND JUST
STRAIGHT UP ARE LIKE, "I HAD NO
EMOTIONAL FEELINGS."
THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID.
>> YEAH.
>> WHICH IS NOT WHAT YOU TOLD US
ON THE PHONE.
>> YEAH.
>> I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE A
HARD LOOK IN THE MIRROR, AND ASK
YOURSELF WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
IT JUST SEEMS REALLY SHALLOW
THAT YOU WOULD LEAD THESE GIRLS
ON TO BRUSH UP ON YOUR GAME.
>> I GUESS IT COULD SEEM THAT
WAY, YEAH.
>> YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SHALLOW,
MISERABLE EXISTENCE, AND PEOPLE
ARE GONNA THINK YOU'RE A
DOUCHE BAG.
>> I GUESS I JUST DON'T
UNDERSTAND, LIKE, WHAT HE WAS
SAYING WITH HOW HE WAS SAYING
WITH HOW HE WAS TRYING TO, LIKE,
"BRUSH UP ON HIS GAME" OR
WHATEVER.
>> YOU'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY
NOW, ON BEHALF OF ALL THE GIRLS
THAT THIS GUY'S BEEN PLAYING
WITH, TO TELL HIM EXACTLY HOW
YOU FEEL ABOUT HIM.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER
THAT.
>> OKAY.
I THOUGHT YOU LIKED ME.
AND APPARENTLY THESE OTHER GIRLS
THOUGHT THAT YOU LIKED THEM,
TOO.
YOU DIDN'T CONSIDER HOW I FELT,
AND YOU LIED TO THEM, AND YOU'RE
WASTING ALL OF THIS TIME AND
YOU'RE WASTING MY TIME.
WHY DID YOU EVEN COME DOWN?
>> I WANTED TO COME CLEAN TO YOU
FACE TO FACE.
>> DID YOU WANT TO COME CLEAN TO
ME, OR DID YOU JUST WANT TO FEEL
BETTER ABOUT YOURSELF?
>> I WANTED TO COME CLEAN TO
YOU, BECAUSE I FELT LIKE YOU
WERE--YOU WERE SPECIAL.
YOU HAVE A COOL PERSONALITY.
YOU'RE DIFFERENT THAN MOST
GIRLS.
>> SO YOU PICKED THE COOLEST
GIRL TO REVEAL HOW MUCH OF AN
[bleep] YOU WERE.
>> IT'S MORE OF A [bleep] MOVE
TO LIE.
>> BUT ARE YOU EVEN ADMITTING
THE FACT THAT YOU'RE A [bleep],
OR ARE YOU JUST SAYING IT
BECAUSE ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE
LOOKING AT YOU?
>> NO, I FEEL LIKE IT'S THE BEST
THING, TO COME CLEAN TO YOU.
>> I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I
BELIEVE THAT.
DID YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT I
DID LIKE YOU?
>> NO, I DIDN'T.
I WASN'T AS CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR
FEELINGS.
>> BY SUCCESSFULLY AVOIDING
BEING YOURSELF WITH THE HANDFUL
OF GIRLS THAT YOU'VE TALKED TO
ON THE INTERNET, YOU'VE NOW
REVEALED YOURSELF TO BASICALLY
WOMEN AROUND THE WORLD FOR
BEING, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHO YOU
ARE.
>> IT'S NOT A GOOD PORTRAIT.
>> ONCE IT REACHED ITS PEAK, I
WOULD BE GONE.
I WOULDN'T DRAG IT ON--
>> EXACTLY.
WHERE WOULD I BE?
WHERE WOULD I BE?
>> YOU HAVE A SENSE OF
SELF-CONFIDENCE.
I KNEW THAT ABOUT HER, I KNEW--
>> HOW DID YOU KNOW?
>> WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS CRUEL.
DO YOU GET THAT?
>> NO.
>> YOU DON'T GET IT.
DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH I STAND
HERE, YOU REALLY DON'T GET IT.
>> YOU'VE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB
OF BEING HONEST AND HOLDING TRUE
TO WHO YOU ARE.
HE'S...A MESS.
IT'S GONNA BE FRUSTRATING, AND
YOU'RE GONNA FEEL ANGER AND A
RESENTMENT FOR HIM, BUT THAT'S
OKAY.
ALL THAT MATTERS IS THAT YOU DID
WHAT WAS RIGHT AND TRUE FOR YOU.
AND THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU'RE
GONNA SET AND THE PEOPLE YOU'RE
GONNA HELP THROUGH THIS MAKES IT
TOTALLY WORTH IT.
>> * I WAS DYING
>> LET'S GET THE [bleep] OUT
OF HERE.
>> * IT HURTS
* ARE YOU CRYING?
*
* IT HURTS
* ARE YOU CRYING?
*
* YOUR CHARADE
>> AND NOW, MORE CATFISH THE TV
SHOW.
STICK AROUND.
>> I WANT THIS GUY TO LEARN AND
UNDERSTAND SOMETHING FROM THIS,
SO THAT WE DON'T JUST LEAVE AND
HE'LL THEN CONTINUE TO GO OUT
INTO THE WORLD AND THEN MESS
WITH PEOPLE.
[phone ringing]
>> HI, NEV.
>> HOW YOU DOING?
WE WERE CURIOUS IF YOU'D BE
INTERESTED IN SITTING DOWN WITH
US FOR A MINUTE TO TALK A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
YESTERDAY AND SORT OF THE WHOLE
SITUATION.
[doorbell chimes]
>> HI.
>> HEY, WHAT'S UP?
>> COME ON IN.
>> SURE, ALL RIGHT.
YESTERDAY WE WERE UPSET,
BECAUSE...PRIMARILY OUR CONCERN
WAS FOR JEN.
YOU MADE A SORT OF CONSCIOUS
DECISION TO ENGAGE WITH THE
PEOPLE YOU'D MET ONLINE, TO WORK
ON YOUR, SORT OF, FEMALE
COMMUNICATIONS SKILLS.
>> IT WASN'T LIKE I SOUGHT OUT
TO GO ONLINE.
IT KIND OF HAPPENED ONLINE JUST
NATURALLY, AND I REALIZED, OKAY,
MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING I CAN DO
WITHOUT GETTING TOO CLOSE TO THE
OTHER PERSON, AND HOPING THAT
THEY WOULDN'T GET TOO CLOSE TO
ME, WITHOUT REALIZING THE
REPERCUSSIONS IT COULD HAVE TO
THE OTHER PERSON.
I MEAN, I'M CERTAINLY NOT
COLD-HEARTED, BUT...
I WAS KIND OF HURT IN THE PAST
BY, LIKE, A GIRL.
I FELT KIND OF UNCOMFORTABLE
TRUSTING, BUILDING A TRUST.
>> BUT WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR
KIND OF PREVIOUS RELATIONSHIP
THAT SCARRED YOU SO MUCH FROM
TRUSTING?
>> JUST SOMEONE KIND OF LEADING
ME ON, PRETENDING TO LIKE ME.
NOT ONLY LEADING ME ON
PHYSICALLY, BUT, LIKE, SHE KNEW
THAT I WAS INVESTED EMOTIONALLY,
THAT I REALIZED SHE WAS DOING
THIS TO OTHER GUYS, TOO.
>> DO YOU HEAR THE SIMILARITIES
BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING SHE
DID TO YOU AND WHAT YOU...
>> YES.
>> DID TO JEN?
>> YES.
I MEAN, I ALWAYS SEPARATED IT
FROM MY REGULAR LIFE.
I NEVER REALLY SAT DOWN AND
ANALYZED IT UNTIL, LIKE, NOW.
NEVER REALLY FACED IT TILL NOW.
>> YEAH, LOOK, WE ALL HAVE DARK
PLACES AND FEELINGS AND ISSUES.
WE ALL HAVE 'EM.
WHAT SEPARATES THE GOOD FROM THE
BAD IN THE WORLD ARE THE PEOPLE
WHO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM AND WORK AT
CHANGING THEM.
>> I AGREE, YEAH.
I THINK IT'S TIME TO CHANGE.
>> I HOPE YOU MEAN IT.
ONE LAST THING...DO NOT CONTACT
JENNIFER EVER AGAIN.
>> I DON'T INTEND TO.
>> SHE'S DONE.
>> YES.
>> GOOD LUCK.
>> THANKS.
>> I REALLY HOPE THIS KID
UNDERSTANDS HOW SERIOUS THIS IS.
HE'LL HAVE TO JUST CHANGE IF HE
EVER THINKS HE'S GOT A CHANCE AT
ANY KIND OF MEANINGFUL
RELATIONSHIP.
[phone line ringing]
>> JEN.
>> HEY.
WE'RE IN THE PARK.
WHERE SHOULD WE MEET YOU?
>> WHERE ARE YOU?
>> [laughs]
HELLO.
I FEEL LIKE I'M DEFINITELY GONNA
BE MORE CAREFUL.
I DON'T WANT TO STOP TALKING TO
PEOPLE, BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE
SURE THAT I KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM
IF I EVEN WANT TO GIVE THEM A
CHANCE TO KNOW ME.
I FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE
WITH MYSELF JUST BY DOING THIS,
AND IT'S HELPED ME TO, LIKE,
FIND MYSELF IN GENERAL AND
FIGURE OUT WHAT I NEED TO LOOK
FOR AND HOW I NEED TO BE AROUND
PEOPLE.
I THINK THIS WEEK IS THE FIRST
TIME I'VE, LIKE, EVER FELT
COMFORTABLE WITH MYSELF.
>> * AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE *
>> ALL RIGHT!
>> * THE OLDER BROTHER
* THAT I NEVER HAD
>> WE'RE JUST GONNA GO AND HAVE
FUN AROUND SAN FRANCISCO.
>> WHOO-HOO!
[computer chiming]
>> HEY, WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON
SINCE WE SAW YOU LAST?
>> JUST SCHOOL AND WORK.
>> THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE AND
MEETING JEN AND US, YOU FEEL
LIKE THAT CHANGED ANYTHING?
>> OH, YEAH, I LEARNED A LOT.
AND I DROPPED THE WHOLE SKYLAR
THING.
FEEL GOOD ABOUT MYSELF.
EVERYTHING'S COOL.
>> GREAT.
I'M HAPPY FOR YOU.
>> THANKS.
>> both: HEY!
>> HI.
>> JENNY!
>> [laughs]
>> YOU LOOK GREAT.
>> THANKS.
I'M JUST IN A GOOD MOOD.
>> YOU STILL TALK TO ALL YOUR
FRIENDS AROUND THE WORLD?
>> OH, YEAH.
I HAVE FRIENDS EVERYWHERE.
PEOPLE WERE, LIKE, TELLING ME
THAT THEY'RE REALLY HAPPY THAT I
WENT ALONG WITH SOMETHING RATHER
THAN JUST, LIKE, HIDING OR,
LIKE, LETTING IT--LIKE,
CONTINUING ON.
>> I HOPE YOUR INTERACTIONS
WITH BRYAN DID NOT DETER YOU
FROM PURSUING GUYS IN THE
FUTURE.
>> [laughs] NO.
>> YOU DESERVE TO BE HAPPY.
YOU'RE AN AWESOME GAL.
>> THANK YOU.
>> ALL RIGHT, HAVE A GREAT
SUMMER AND GOOD LUCK WITH
SCHOOL.
>> THANKS.
>> KRISTEN WAS INVOLVED IN A CAR
ACCIDENT.
GLASS SHATTERED, AND IT GOT INTO
HER EYE.
THE DOCTORS COULDN'T FIX IT, SO
SHE HAS A FAKE EYE.
>> WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE GLASS
EYE, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE
LOOKS LIKE.
>> SHE ALWAYS WOULD CALL ME A
LIAR, AND I'M FINDING OUT THAT
SHE'S A LIAR.
I'M JUST GONNA WALK AWAY.
STRAIGHT UP, THAT'S JUST HOW
IT'S GONNA BE.
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