90 Day Fiancé: Before the 90 Days (2017–…): Season 4, Episode 17 - Tell All Part 2 - full transcript
In Part 2 of the Tell All, host Shaun Robinson dives back in to discuss more of the biggest moments with our couples and updates on where their relationships stand now.
PREVIOUSLY ON "90 DAY FIANCé:
THE COUPLES TELL ALL"...
AVERY AND ASH, WHAT HAPPENED?
WHY'D YOU BREAK UP?
BECAUSE HE LIED TO MY FACE.
WOW.
I APOLOGIZE IF I HURT YOU.
YOU ARE A MASSIVE NARCISSIST.
COME ON.
AFTER ALL OF THIS, DO YOU THINK
THAT YOU AND STEPHANIE
COULD BE FRIENDS?
DID WILLIAMS SOUND
BRITISH TO YOU?
‐NO. NO.
‐HE SOUND LIKE USMAN.
IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE
HE'S AN UNTRUSTWORTHY PERSON.
I'M NOT WILLING TO CONTINUE
TALKING WHILE SHE'S HERE.
WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT
WHAT THE ISSUE IS.
IT'S IRRELEVANT.
‐SHE HAS A VOICE.
LET HER TALK.
‐TOM, WHAT HAPPENED?
YOU KNOW SOMETHING, THIS IS
COMPLETE AND UTTER BULL.
LIKE, SERIOUSLY.
‐OKAY, WE JUST LOST TOM.
CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY
DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS
MY PRODUCER IS TELLING ME
THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING
TO GET TOM BACK,
BUT WE DON'T KNOW
WHERE HE IS RIGHT NOW,
SO WE DON'T KNOW IF HE'S GOING
TO COME BACK.
AVERY? OKAY, EVERYBODY'S
CONFUSED RIGHT NOW,
WHAT HAPPENED?
I, YOU KNOW,
I'M NOT IN A RELATIONSHIP.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS,
IS WHEN TOM FOUND OUT
THAT I WASN'T IN A RELATIONSHIP,
HE CAME TO ME AND WAS LIKE,
YOU KNOW,
"YOU ARE REALLY ATTRACTIVE
AND WE CAN HAVE DINNER TOGETHER.
MAYBE I'M NOT YOUR TYPE
OR MAYBE I AM."
THAT'S ‐‐ THAT'S HIS STYLE.
AND I WAS LIKE,
"OKAY, WELL, FIRST OFF,
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN."
AND HE SCREENSHOTTED ME
COMMUNICATING TO HIM SAYING,
"YEAH, WE COULD, LIKE, HANG
OUT," AND SENT IT TO ASH,
AND WAS LIKE,
"LOOK WHAT AVERY'S DOING."
HE'S ALWAYS BEEN
A VERY DECEPTIVE PERSON,
SO YOU NEVER REALLY GOT TO KNOW
THE TRUTH, YOU KNOW.
BUT YOU COULD SEE BY HIS
DEMEANOR, THAT'S HIS STYLE.
YOU COULD READ
HIS BODY LANGUAGE.
NOBODY'S A FOOL HERE.
WE GET IT. WE GET IT.
ULTIMATE, LIKE, THING THAT,
LIKE, TURNS ME OFF
IS LIKE ANY TIME SOMEBODY
SCREENSHOTS A CONVERSATION
AND SENDS IT
TO SOMEBODY ELSE LIKE THAT,
THAT IS, LIKE, LITERALLY LIKE,
"ARE WE IN HIGH SCHOOL?"
EXACTLY. I'M LIKE,
THIS IS SUCH CHILDISH BEHAVIOR.
AND IT JUST SHOWED ME
LIKE A CERTAIN SIDE OF TOM
THAT I WAS LIKE,
"OKAY, SO TOM IS OUT FOR TOM,"
AND...
THAT'S WHEN I STARTED TO FEEL HE
WASN'T REALLY IN LOVE WITH ME,
TOM WAS OUT FOR TOM.
YOU CAN'T REALLY ESCAPE
YOUR OWN BEHAVIOR.
IT ALL COMES OUT AT SOME POINT.
‐TOM, ARE YOU THERE? HEY, THERE.
‐I AM HERE.
YES, I AM.
‐HAD TO TAKE A QUICK SMOKE.
THAT'S TRUE.
OKAY. SO, TOM, I'D LIKE TO HEAR
YOUR SIDE TO THIS STORY.
DID YOU ASK AVERY OUT ON A DATE?
YES.
SHE'S AN ATTRACTIVE WOMAN.
I CAN ASK PEOPLE
WHATEVER I WANT.
I HAVE NO ONE TO ANSWER TO.
IT WASN'T ME THAT HAD SPLIT UP
TWO DAYS BEFORE
WITH HER BOYFRIEND, BUT HEY...
AND I'M FLATTERED.
THANK YOU FOR SAYING, "YES."
AND THEN THANK YOU FOR REALIZING
THAT IT WAS A BAD MISTAKE
TO ACTUALLY ENTERTAIN THE IDEA
AND THEN SAY, "NO."
WELL, I THOUGHT
IT WAS A BAD IDEA
BECAUSE I HAD NO ‐‐ NO ACTUAL
PERSONAL INTENTIONS BEHIND IT,
AND YOU DECIDED TO SCREENSHOT IT
AND SEND IT TO MY EX‐BOYFRIEND.
NO.
FOR I DON'T EVEN KNOW
WHAT PURPOSES.
NO, I DIDN'T.
SO...
WELL, THAT'S WHAT
I WAS TOLD BY ASH.
SO IF I'M WRONG, THEN I NEED
CLARITY ON THAT, AS WELL.
BECAUSE I WOULD WONDER
WHY ASH CAME TO ME
NOT EVEN LONG AFTER THAT AND WAS
LIKE, "HAVE FUN WITH TOM.
HE SHOWED ME
THE WHOLE CONVERSATION."
TOM, DID YOU SEND A SCREENSHOT
OF YOUR TEXT MESSAGES
WITH AVERY TO ASH?
WHY ON EARTH WOULD I DO THAT?
THAT ‐‐ THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER
TO THE QUESTION.
I DIDN'T SEND ASH A SCREENSHOT
OF MY CONVERSATION
BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT I DO.
HOW DID ASH KNOW THEN?
BECAUSE I ASKED ASH,
WAS IT OVER?
WAS YOUR RELATIONSHIP OVER?
HE WOULD'VE RESPONDED, "YES."
AND THEN WHAT PROCEEDED
AFTER THAT?
‐THAT'S IT.
‐ASH, CAN YOU TELL ME
HOW YOU FOUND OUT THAT TOM ASKED
AVERY OUT?
SO HE TOLD YOU
THAT HE ASKED AVERY OUT,
BUT THEN YOU CONTACTED ‐‐
SENDING SCREENSHOTS ‐‐
I WASN'T SENDING SCREENSHOTS.
‐TOM, HOLD UP.
‐NO, BUT I WASN'T SENDING
SCREENSHOTS
OF INFORMATION TO ASH.
WE PURELY HAD A CONVERSATION
ABOUT IT.
- OKAY, HOLD UP FOR JUST A SECOND.
- ASH, DID TOM SEND YOU
A SCREENSHOT OF THEIR TEXT
BETWEEN HIM AND AVERY?
WHY DID YOU LIE TO HER?
YOU FEEL TOM DID SOMETHING WRONG
BY ASKING AVERY OUT?
YOU WERE ANNOYED WITH TOM
FOR ASKING HER OUT?
WHAT DID I DO?
I'M SORRY. WE WERE NOT TOGETHER
IN A RELATIONSHIP, ASH.
I'LL JUST TELL YOU THIS,
I HAVE A LOT OF MEN
WHO COME INTO MY LIFE
WHO TRY TO HIT ON ME
OR TRY TO ASSERT TYPES
OF ATTRACTION TOWARDS ME,
AND I JUST ASSERT
MY BOUNDARIES,
AND THAT'S USUALLY
WHAT STOPS IT.
I WAS JUST
BEING PLEASANT.
SEE, THAT'S
THE THING, TOM ‐‐
TOM, YOU KEEP GOING BACK
AND FORTH, YOU'RE LIKE,
"YES, I WAS
HITTING ON HER.
YES, I WAS WANTING
TO ASK HER OUT ON A DATE."
SO THEN WHEN I SAY THAT,
YOU COME BACK AND YOU GO,
"I WAS JUST TRYING
TO BE PLEASANT."
TOM, DID YOU ALSO
ASK STEPHANIE OUT?
YEAH, BUT SHE'S HOT.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO OUT
WITH STEPH.
LISTEN, I DIDN'T
TAKE IT THAT WAY,
AND I JUST LIKE TO KEEP
IT CIVIL AND NICE...
STEPH, I WAS HITTING ON YOU.
BE HONEST.
I WAS HITTING ON YOU. I WAS.
‐I REALLY DID NOT. I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S LIKE I HIT ON STEPH AND
SHE DOESN'T KNOW,
AND I'M ASKING SOMEONE OUT TO
JUST GO FOR DINNER,
AND THEY THINK IT'S A DATE.
‐HEY, DARCEY, LOVE YOU.
‐LOVE YOU, TOO.
IT'S SO FUNNY HOW
IT'S LIKE TOM'S
GETTING SO MUCH ENJOYMENT
OUT OF THIS
BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY
HURTS PEOPLE.
HEY, LISA.
WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN THINKING
AS YOU'VE BEEN LISTENING
TO THIS CONVERSATION?
WELL, I WAS A LITTLE PISSED OFF
WHEN YOU GUYS RAILROADED TOM,
AND, YOU KNOW,
WOMEN, DON'T BE CHATTY
BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE DO IT.
WE WILL RAILROAD A MAN
INTO THE CORNER.
LISA?
HAVE I ASKED YOU WHEN YOU'RE
IN NEW YORK TO GO TO DINNER?
YES, YOU HAVE.
DID I SAY I THOUGHT
YOU LOOKED GREAT?
YES, YOU DID. BUT DID I
TAKE IT OFFENSIVELY?
NO. BECAUSE
OF HIS DEMEANOR.
I'M NOT OFFENDED
BY IT.
AVERY, WHY ARE YOU
OFFENDED BY IT?
OKAY, BUT I DIDN'T TAKE IT
OFFENSIVELY EITHER
UNTIL IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY
EX‐BOYFRIEND FOR NO REASON.
YOU SAID IT WAS SCREENSHOTTED,
WHICH IT WASN'T.
FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD NOW,
IT WAS A LIE THAT HE TOLD ME
THAT WAS SCREENSHOTTED.
‐DID YOU APOLOGIZE?
‐DID I APOLOGIZE TO WHO?
I'M NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE
FOR ANYTHING
THAT I FEEL LIKE...
‐YOU ACCUSED TOM
OR PHOTO SNAPPING A PICTURE
AND SENDING YOUR CONVERSATION.
BUT YOU JUST HEARD FROM ASH
WHO SAID IT WAS A LIE.
‐I AM SORRY.
OKAY, SO, TOM, I APOLOGIZE
FOR ACCUSING YOU OF THAT.
THE CONVERSATION STILL
WAS HAD WITH ASH.
BUT THE THING IS,
IS THAT I STILL DON'T FIND YOU
AS A VERY TRUSTWORTHY PERSON.
BUT THAT'S OKAY,
YOU'RE ENTITLED THAT MY OPINION.
WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED
I'M AN [BLEEP.
AVERY, DO YOU THINK THERE IS
A DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN TOM ASKING YOU OUT
AND TOM ASKING LISA OUT?
I BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOU PUT
WORDS LIKE,
"NOW THAT YOU'RE SINGLE
AND I'M SINGLE, " AND " I FIND YOU
EXTREMELY ATTRACTIVE.
WE SHOULD HANG OUT."
AND "MAYBE I'M YOUR TYPE."
"IF I'M NOT YOUR TYPE,
THEN OF COURSE,
WE CAN JUST HANG OUT NORMALLY."
HOW AM I GOING TO TAKE THAT?
I'M PRETTY SURE HE DIDN'T SAY
THINGS LIKE THAT
TO LISA IN THAT WAY.
YOU BLEW YOUR COVER.
YOU BLEW YOUR COVER, TOM.
DARCEY AND TOM, DO YOU THINK
THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING
TO MOVE FORWARD
AT LEAST AS FRIENDS?
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT,
MY LIFE'S BEEN A HUGE JOURNEY,
IT'S KIND OF
LIKE A NEVER‐ENDING STORY.
YOU NEVER KNOW
WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.
BUT, YOU KNOW,
I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST, TOM.
BUT RIGHT NOW, MY LIFE,
I'M FOCUSED ON ME
AND MY KIDS AND, YOU KNOW,
MY FUTURE.
AND WE HAD SOME GREAT TIMES
AND THERE ARE CHERISHED MEMORIES
THAT I ALWAYS HAVE,
BUT FOR NOW, I'M HAPPY
JUST BEING ME RIGHT NOW.
TOM, WHAT ABOUT YOU?
HINDSIGHT'S
A WONDERFUL THING, DARCEY.
AND GOD KNOWS I'VE MADE
SO MANY BLOODY
MISTAKES IN OUR RELATIONSHIP.
SOME OUT OF NOT KNOWING
WHO I WAS AS A PERSON,
SOME JUST PETULANCE ON MY PART
FOR NOT ACTUALLY DOING
WHAT I SHOULD HAVE DONE.
AND I CAN ONLY
BE SORRY FOR THAT.
I CAN ONLY BE SORRY.
AND I HOPE ONE DAY, IF NOT NOW,
BUT IN THE FUTURE, YOU WILL SEE
THAT I DID LOVE YOU,
AND I'M SORRY IF I EVER DID
ANYTHING THAT HURT YOU
BECAUSE I NEVER MEANT
THAT AND I DIDN'T.
I ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY, OKAY.
LIFE GOES ON.
I'M STRONG ENOUGH.
I'M NOT A WEAK WOMAN.
‐I KNOW YOU'RE NOT.
‐I HAVE TWO BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTERS.
I KNOW YOU'RE NOT.
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.
THANK YOU. BECAUSE I AM.
WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE TO UNCOVER
WHEN "90 DAY FIANCé:
THE COUPLES TELL ALL" RETURNS.
WOW, TALK ABOUT FULL ON.
FIRST OFF, IT CONFIRMED THE FACT
THAT I CAN'T TRUST A DAMN WORD
OUT OF ASH'S MOUTH.
HE ONCE AGAIN LIED TO ME,
WHICH IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE
NOT IN A RELATIONSHIP ANYMORE.
LIKE, SERIOUSLY. DID I ASK
AVERY OUT ON A DATE DATE?
NO, I DIDN'T, I WAS JUST LIKE,
"YOU'RE SINGLE, I'M SINGLE,
LET'S GO OUT.
LET'S HAVE SOME FUN.
LET'S GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER."
I'M A TERRIBLE FLIRT.
WHAT CAN I SAY?
I HAVE ASKED LISA OUT, AS WELL.
SO, SHE DIDN'T SEEM TO THINK
I WAS HITTING ON HER,
ALTHOUGH I DID SAY
SHE WAS VERY ATTRACTIVE.
I'M GLAD I ENDED IT WHEN I
DECIDED TO END IT
BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER GONNA END
ON HIS END,
IT WAS, LIKE, TOM'S WAY
OR THE HIGHWAY.
I'M NOT GOING TO CATCH A BREAK,
I DO BELIEVE.
COMING UP...
USMAN, POLYGAMY IS ALLOWED
IN YOUR CULTURE...
DO YOU SEE YOURSELVES
TAKING MORE WIVES?
AND LATER...
SO LANA'S STILL
ON THOSE DATING SITES?
YES.
WHAT?
IF SHE'S ENGAGED TO YOU
THAT MEANS SHE'S NOT ON
ANY MORE WEBSITES.
GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
GET HIM OUT.
HE'S JUST AN IDIOT!
‐COME ON!
‐GUYS, GUYS, STOP IT.
‐STOP YELLING, EVERYBODY.
WE'RE GOING TO TURN NOW
AND TALK ABOUT LISA AND USMAN
AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP.
WHERE DOES IT STAND TODAY?
THEY OBVIOUSLY GOT MARRIED.
CONGRATULATIONS, GUYS.
‐THANK YOU, SHAUN. THANK YOU.
‐THANK YOU.
LISA, WAS YOUR WEDDING
EVERYTHING YOU WANTED IT TO BE?
IT WAS.
THE MAIN OBJECTIVE
WAS TO MARRY MY BEST FRIEND.
IT WAS NOT THE TRADITIONAL
HAUSA WEDDING,
BUT HE CREATED
A FAIRY‐TALE WEDDING.
IT WAS A FAIRY‐TALE WEDDING
FOR LISA, USMAN.
WHAT ABOUT FOR YOU?
THAT'S BECAUSE
YOU'RE BULL‐HEADED, THAT'S WHY.
BUT WE HAVE BEEN SEEING
ON SOCIAL MEDIA,
THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD.
YOU GUYS HAVE BROKEN UP
A FEW TIMES
SINCE YOU GOT MARRIED.
I WOULDN'T SAY BROKEN UP.
WE DIDN'T BREAK UP BECAUSE
WE'VE JUST BLOCKED EACH OTHER.
BREAKING UP IS SOMETHING
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
WELL, WHEN YOU'RE ‐‐
WHEN YOU'RE BLOCKING
YOUR HUSBAND,
I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S ‐‐
THAT'S A BIG DEAL.
SO, USMAN, WHAT HAS HAPPENED
SINCE YOU GUYS GOT BACK,
SINCE LISA GOT BACK
TO THE STATES?
USMAN, LET'S TELL THE TRUTH
BECAUSE THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT.
NO, YOU LISTEN
BECAUSE ‐‐
NO, NO, NO...
I CAN SEE I'M GONNA
DISCONNECT ALREADY.
I CAN SEE I'M GONNA
HANG UP.
TRY ME, TRY ME.
NO, NO.
YOU'RE GONNA BE STUPID.
NO, NO.
USMAN, LET ME TELL YOU
SOMETHING.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
YOU GET ON YOUR PLATFORM.
LET'S CHECK YOUR PLATFORM
OF ALL THE BULL
COMING OUT OF THESE
FRICKIN' FANS' MOUTH.
LET'S SAY ABOUT
THE BULL
YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT
THE AMERICAN WOMEN ARE LIKE?
THEY'RE VILE.
YOU SEE THEM IN YOUR DMs.
YOU SEE THE NUDE PICTURES
THEY SEND YOU.
THEY SEND YOU NOTHING
BUT BULL RUBBISH.
NOW, YOU'RE GONNA CALL
A SPADE BY A SPADE?
I'M CALLING IT.
HEY, LISA, OKAY,
WHY HAVE YOU GUYS
BLOCKED EACH OTHER
SEVERAL TIMES
SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN
BACK TO THE STATES?
IT IS USUALLY USMAN
WHO BLOCKS ME.
USMAN HAS THE BIGGEST ATTITUDE
IN NIGERIA.
HE IS THE MOST STUBBORN MAN.
HE WANTS TO BE IN CONTROL
OF EVERYTHING
BECAUSE OVER THERE, THE MEN
DO DOMINATE THEIR WOMEN.
WHY HAVE YOU BLOCKED LISA,
USMAN?
I MEAN, THIS IS YOUR WIFE.
WHY HAVE YOU BLOCKED HER
SINCE YOU GUYS GOT MARRIED?
IF YOU START THIS
AGAIN...
DO NOT OPEN ‐‐
DO NOT OPEN THAT CAN OF WORMS.
DO NOT.
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
NO, LET'S SEE
WHERE THIS GOES.
YOU JUST OPENED
THAT CAN OF WORMS.
USMAN, I GOT TO TELL YOU,
I HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR YOU,
HOW CALM YOU ARE,
HOW RESPECTFUL YOU ARE.
I'VE NEVER SEEN YOU USE
ONE FOUL WORD,
EVER SEEN YOU
BE DISRESPECTFUL.
AND LISA,
AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,
YOU'RE LIKE A BULL
IN A CHINA SHOP.
AND IT'S ‐‐
I MEAN, THIS GUY ‐‐
I DON'T KNOW WHAT
HE COULD HAVE DONE FOR YOU.
HE SHOWED YOU
SO MUCH RESPECT,
YOU KNOW, THAT YOU KNEW...
YOU KNOW WHAT, ED?
I'M GONNA STOP YOU
RIGHT THERE, ED, OKAY?
I'M TAKING YOUR ‐‐
I'M HEARING YOUR WORDS,
BUT YOU WANT TO JUMP ON HERE
AND DISRESPECT ME,
PLEASE DON'T.
IT'S NOT ABOUT DISRESPECT.
I'M JUST BEING HONEST
WITH YOU.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'M ‐‐
ED!
WHAT THE HELL DO YOU KNOW
ABOUT HONESTY?
WHAT THE DO YOU KNOW
ABOUT HONESTY?
AND, USMAN, NOT ALL AMERICAN
WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT.
THAT'S WHY ASH
DUMPED YOUR ASS.
USMAN, SHE IS THE EXCEPTION
TO THE RULE.
THERE ARE SO MANY MORE
NICER WOMEN
THAT AREN'T DISRESPECTFUL
LIKE SHE IS.
SHE TREATED YOU
LIKE A PIECE OF
ED, YOU
YOU TREATED HIM
LIKE A LITTLE GOAT.
- YOU'RE THE GOAT!
- YOU'RE THE GOAT!
- YOU'RE THE GOAT.
- YOU.
LISA, IF YOU ‐‐
USMAN AND I
DO NOT USE EACH OTHER.
NO, SHUT THE UP.
I'M TALKING.
‐LISA ‐‐
‐I'M TALKING.
THE WAY YOU TALK TO ROSE ‐‐
YOU TOLD ROSE
SHAVE HER LEGS
WHEN YOU'RE COMING IN WITH
YOUR GREASED‐UP HAIR,
LOOKING LIKE A
BUM YOURSELF.
THEN YOU SAY SHE'S
TAKING YOUR MONEY,
TALKING ABOUT SHOW ‐‐
PUT A SOCK IN YOUR MOUTH
AND LISTEN TO ME.
SHUT UP. SHUT UP.
LISA. LISA, PLEASE ‐‐
LISA CAN'T HANDLE
THE TRUTH.
OH, DUDE, RUN.
RUN!
USMAN, RUN.
USMAN, RUN.
NO, AND NO AMERICAN WOMAN
WILL PUT UP WITH ANY MAN
TALKING TO ANOTHER WOMAN
WHEN THEY'RE MARRIED.
HE WAS CHATTING A WOMAN.
THIS WOMAN'S SAYING,
"I LOVE YOU."
YOU KNOW, SHE TRIED TO
HOOK UP WITH HIM BEFORE.
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
NOT COOL WITH ME.
YOU WERE DOING IT BY TEXT.
YOU WERE DOING IT BY TEXT.
OKAY, HANG ON, YES.
THAT SHE LOVES YOU, BUT BECAUSE
YOU'RE WITH A WHITE WOMAN,
SHE WANTS YOU
TO BE WITH HER.
HE WAS PLAYING MR. PLAYBOY
IS WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO DO.
OH, NO.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
I HAVE MALE AND FEMALE STRIPPERS
RUNNING THROUGH MY FACEBOOK FEED
JUST FOR THEIR ADVERTISEMENT
ACROSS THE STATES.
YOUR FAMILY ‐‐
IF THEY SAW THAT YOU GOT
A PORN STAR
ON YOUR SITE,
WHAT DO YOU THINK
MUHAMMAD WOULD SAY?
WHAT DO YOU THINK
MOMMY WOULD SAY?
YOU HAVE REALLY DISRESPECTED
THE NIGERIAN CULTURE OVER THERE
BY PUTTING THAT
ON YOUR PAGE.
THIS IS THE POR‐‐
THIS IS A PORN STAR?
YES. YEAH.
SO THAT'S NOT THE SAME PERSON.
WHO IS THIS WOMAN?
SHE'S A PORN STAR,
A BAD ONE, AT THAT.
HOW WOULD YOUR FAMILY REACT
IF I TOLD THEM WHAT...
LISTEN!
OKAY. LISA, DO YOU THINK
THAT USMAN HAS BEEN
UNFAITHFUL TO YOU
AT ANY POINT
IN YOUR RELATIONSHIP?
UNFAITHFUL PHYSICALLY?
NO.
SO, YOU DON'T THINK HE'S BEEN
UNFAITHFUL TO YOU PHYSICALLY,
BUT YOU LOOK AT THE TEXTING
BACK AND FORTH,
THE EMOJIS, AND ALL OF THAT
AS A FORM OF INFIDELITY.
IS THAT RIGHT?
I CONSIDER THAT
TO BE VERY DISRESPECTFUL.
IF YOU LOVE
THE PERSON YOU'RE WITH,
YOU DON'T CARRY ON
THE CONVERSATION.
I DON'T CARRY ON
CONVERSATIONS WITH MEN
AND LET THEM SAY
"I LOVE YOU,"
AND I DON'T TELL THEM
"I LOVE YOU."
AND THAT THERE IS
JUST VERY UNACCEPTABLE.
USMAN, HERE'S WHAT I WANTED
TO ASK YOU ABOUT.
THERE WAS AN INTERVIEW
THAT YOU DID
WHERE YOU TALKED ABOUT
YOUR CULTURE
ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE
UP TO FOUR WIVES.
OKAY, SO POLYGAMY IS ALLOWED
IN YOUR CULTURE.
DO YOU SEE YOURSELVES
TAKING MORE WIVES?
UM...
USMAN...
DO YOU SEE YOURSELVES
TAKING MORE WIVES?
UM...
OH, MY GOD!
OH, MY GOD.
SO, LISA, DID YOU KNOW ABOUT HIM
TAKING A SECOND WIFE?
YES.
I'M 53 YEARS OLD.
I UNDERSTAND ABOUT
THE CHILDBEARING YEARS.
BUT ALSO, REMEMBER,
IN THIS TYPE OF LIFESTYLE,
THEY MUST BE ABLE TO PROVIDE
FOR THE FIRST WIFE ‐‐
HER HOUSE, HER CAR,
HER INSURANCE, HER FOOD.
THEY MUST BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ALL
THIS STUFF FOR THE FIRST WIFE
BEFORE THEY COULD
TAKE A SECOND.
HIM AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS
FOR THREE YEARS.
THE POINT BEING IS
HERE IN AMERICA,
A SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH WIFE
DON'T COUNT FOR NOTHING.
OKAY, HOLD UP. LET ME ‐‐ I JUST
GOT TO ASK YOU THIS, LISA.
LISA, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM
WITH WOMEN
SENDING HIM EMOJIS
IN HIS DM.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DEAL
WITH ANOTHER WOMAN
ACTUALLY HAVING SEX
WITH USMAN?
WELL, I SAID
IF HE TAKES FOUR WIVES,
I WILL TAKE
THREE MORE HUSBANDS.
WELL, YOU KNOW,
THAT'S NOT LEGAL
IN THE UNITED STATES.
HE WILL NOT TAKE
ANY MORE WIVES
BECAUSE HE HAS
HIS HANDS FULL WITH ME.
HE DOESN'T NEED
THREE MORE DRAMAS.
BUT IT WOULDN'T MATTER
WHO THE WIFE WAS
'CAUSE YOU KNOW THE PORN‐STAR
WOMAN YOU WERE TALKING TO,
FOR INSTANCE ‐‐
IF YOU TOOK HER AS ANOTHER WIFE,
THEN OBVIOUSLY
LISA'S GONNA BE,
LIKE, REALLY UPSET WITH THAT,
SO YOU WOULDN'T ‐‐
IS THERE A CERTAIN TYPE
OF WOMAN
THAT YOU WOULD WANT
TO BEAR YOUR CHILD
BUT AT THE SAME TIME
BE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU
ALONGSIDE LISA?
THAT TYPE OF WOMAN
IS NEVER ACCEPTABLE.
TRUST ME WHEN I TELL YOU, TOM,
THAT IS ‐‐
LET ME TALK TO TOM.
MM.
JUST FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN,
WHEN YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH,
YOU KNOW,
WOMEN SENDING HIM EMOJIS,
THEN IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE
THAT YOU'RE BEING HONEST
IN THAT REGARD,
THAT YOU WOULD BE FULLY WILLING
TO TAKE ON ANOTHER WIFE.
BUT THAT'S JUST
MY PERCEPTION.
YOUR PERCEPTION ‐‐
I UNDERSTAND,
AND IT'S RESPECTED.
SO YOU WOULD BE OKAY
WITH HIM
BEING INTIMATE
WITH ANOTHER WOMAN
AND LIVING IN
THE SAME HOUSEHOLD
AND ALL OF THAT?
HE WILL NOT LIVE IN ‐‐
THEY DO NOT LIVE
IN THE SAME HOUSEHOLD.
OKAY. SO HE WOULD BE TAKING CARE
OF YOUR GUYS' HOUSEHOLD,
PLUS THEIR HOUSEHOLD
SEPARATE FROM YOU GUYS?
‐MM‐HMM.
‐OKAY.
SO, BUT YOU'D BE TOTALLY FINE
WITH HIM, LIKE,
GOING AND STAYING THERE
AND STAYING WITH THEM
AND HAVING THIS ‐‐
I MEAN, 'CAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE
LIKE PUTTING THE DOG OUT.
AVERY, LISTEN.
AS LONG AS HE CAN PROVIDE
FOR MY HOUSE,
I'M OKAY WITH IT BECAUSE
HERE IN THE UNITED STATES,
THE MARRIAGE IS NOT LEGAL.
THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT
LISA CAN'T CARRY YOUR BABY,
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A LEGITIMATE,
LIKE, QUESTION
TO REALLY THINK ABOUT
BETWEEN YOU GUYS.
NO, NO, NO. IF I CANNOT,
THERE WILL BE
NOT WHAT YOU GUYS CALL
A WIFE.
SHE'S JUST A SECOND PERSON
TO HIS LIFE.
SHE'S NOT LEGALLY A WIFE.
NO, SHE'S NOT.
NO, IT IS.
NO. NO, NOT HERE IN THE ‐‐
NOT IN THE UNITED STATES.
IT IS NOT ACCEPT‐‐
IT'S NOT EVEN...
H‐H‐HOLD UP JUST A SECOND.
USMAN, YOU JUST SAID
YOU HAVE NO INTENTIONS
OF LIVING IN
THE UNITED STATES?
OKAY, LISA, THEN, DO YOU PLAN TO
GO AND MOVE TO NIGERIA?
THAT IS SOMETHING VERY PERSONAL
BETWEEN HIM AND I.
OKAY, OKAY.
SO, I JUST WANT TO
FIND OUT ‐‐
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE FUTURE IS
FOR YOUR RELATIONSHIP?
LISA, I'M GONNA START
WITH YOU.
HIM AND I DISCUSS
A LOT OF THINGS.
OUR RELATIONSHIP
WILL PROCEED FROM HERE
BECAUSE IT IS EXACTLY
WHAT WE'VE SAID.
WE'RE BLENDING TWO PEOPLE
FROM TWO DIFFERENT COUNTRIES,
TWO DIFFERENT CULTURES.
USMAN, YOU SAID A LOT OF
SURPRISING THINGS TONIGHT,
I GOT TO TELL YOU.
SO, WHAT IS THE FUTURE
FOR YOU TWO?
I REALLY HOPE YOU TWO ARE ABLE
TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
THERE IS STILL
A LOT MORE TO COME.
THIS IS "90 DAY FIANCé:
BEFORE THE 90 DAYS:
THE COUPLES TELL ALL."
USMAN ‐‐ YOU KNOW, HE'S
ALLOWED TO HAVE ALL THESE WIVES.
I GET IT.
THAT'S HIS CULTURE.
YOU KNOW,
SHE'S HAD TO ACCEPT THAT
IF SHE HASN'T WANTED TO
IN THE PAST.
YOU KNOW, I THINK SHE JUST WANTS
THE SAME RESPECT IN RETURN.
LISA IS DELUSIONAL.
THAT'S WHY SHE'S ATTACKING HIM.
WHY ARE YOU ACTING LIKE
A 51‐YEAR‐OLD ADOLESCENT?
YOU'RE NOT.
I REALLY LIKE LISA.
I THINK SHE IS HARD‐HEADED.
SHE IS SAVAGE.
AND SHE SAYS WHAT SHE WANTS.
I'M GONNA TRY AND GET ONLINE
WITH LANA RIGHT NOW.
ARE YOU ACTUALLY TALKING NOW
ON THE PHONE TO LANA?
IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR HER TO
MANIPULATE THE iPHONE KEYBOARD
WITH HER NAILS AND STUFF.
WHAT?!
DID YOU JUST SAY
SHE CAN'T USE AN iPHONE
BECAUSE OF HER NAILS?
OH, MY GOD!
YOU JUST TRYING TO RILE ME UP?
‐YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP!
‐OH, MY GOD!
I'M GONNA SHUT THE COMPUTER.
OKAY, I'M GONNA TRY AND GET
ONLINE WITH LANA RIGHT NOW.
LET'S TRY IT OUT HERE.
AND SHE'S NOT ONLINE.
UH...
I DON'T THINK THAT LANA'S
GONNA SHOW UP.
BEFORE THE 90 DAYS:
THE COUPLES TELL ALL."
PLEASE WELCOME THE MAN WHO FLEW
ALL THE WAY TO UKRAINE
NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE,
BUT FIVE TIMES TO FINALLY MEET
HIS GIRLFRIEND, LANA.
DAVID IS HERE.
HI, DAVID.
HELLO, SHAUN.
YOU ARE HERE, DAVID,
BUT LANA IS NOT.
WHERE IS SHE?
I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW
WHERE SHE IS RIGHT NOW.
I'M GONNA GUESS
SHE'S AT HOME.
WHEN WE LEFT YOU AND LANA,
YOU TWO WERE ENGAGED.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME
YOU ACTUALLY TALKED TO LANA?
I THINK IT'S BEEN SIX DAYS.
ARE YOU ACTUALLY TALKING NOW
ON THE PHONE?
NO, LANA DOES NOT
SPEAK ENGLISH.
DO YOU FEEL THAT LANA
WANTS TO GET MARRIED?
LANA IS NOT VERY COMMUNICATIVE
WITH TELLING ME, LIKE,
WHAT'S HAPPENING
OR WHAT'S GOING ON.
‐BUT YOU'RE ENGAGED TO HER.
‐YES.
OKAY, WELL, INITIALLY, WE DIDN'T
EVEN THINK SHE EXISTED,
BUT WE WERE CERTAINLY
PROVEN WRONG.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
I TOLD HER 11:00
AT THIS SPOT.
THERE IS NO ROOM
FOR ERROR ON THIS.
NOW I'M STARTING TO GET NERVOUS.
OH, MY GOD. THAT'S HER.
THAT IS HER.
OH, MY GOD.
OH, WOW.
OH.
OH, IT IS COLD.
LOOK AT YOU.
OH, MY GOD.
WOW.
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT.
DAVID, YOU REALLY GOT EMOTIONAL
DURING THAT CLIP
OF SEEING YOU AND LANA
COME TOGETHER.
WHAT WERE YOU THINKING
AT THAT TIME?
THE STARS LINED UP,
AND WE FINALLY MET.
ED, WERE YOU SHOCKED?
I'M TOTALLY SHOCKED.
I CAN'T BELIEVE HE ‐‐
LIKE, I ‐‐
I CAN'T BELIEVE HE FINALLY ‐‐
YOU MET HER.
I MEAN, CONGRATULATIONS.
BUT I'VE NEVER BEEN
ON A PAID WEBSITE.
AND BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE ‐‐
TO ME, THEY'RE SCAMS,
AND I NEVER HAD
ANY LUCK WITH THEM.
AND IT'S A BUSINESS.
IT'S A TRANSACTION.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND
HOW YOU COULD ALLOW YOURSELF
TO TORTURE YOURSELF
FOR SEVEN YEARS.
I DIDN'T HAVE A RELATIONSHIP
WITH HER FOR SEVEN YEARS.
I'VE KNOWN HER FOR SEVEN YEARS.
SO, DAVID, IS LANA
STILL ON THOSE DATING SITES?
SHE'S STILL ON THE WEBSITES,
YOU KNOW, TALKING TO HER FRIENDS
BECAUSE SHE JUST MOVED
RECENTLY TO KIEV
AND IS LIVING
WITH HER SISTER.
YOU KNOW, DAVID,
I FEEL FOR YOU.
BUT THIS WAS A JOB
FOR HER.
BUT THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE
DON'T UNDERSTAND.
SHE DOESN'T GET PAID.
YOU STILL TODAY DON'T THINK
SHE'S SCAMMING YOU?
OH, I KNOW
SHE'S NOT SCAMMING ME.
LISTEN TO ME, DAVID.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
IF SHE'S ENGAGED TO YOU,
THAT MEANS SHE'S NOT ON
ANY MORE WEBSITES.
NO, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS, ED.
ED, THAT IS NOT HOW IT IS.
‐YES, IT IS.
‐BUT THEN I COULD GO ONLINE...
THE PROBLEM IS I COULD
GO ONLINE TODAY
AND START TALKING TO HER.
I DON'T WANT TO, BUT...
I'D BE HORRIFIED
IF THAT WAS THE CASE.
YOU PROBABLY COULD.
THOSE ARE HER ONLY FRIENDS.
THE PEOPLE THAT SHE'S TALKED TO
FOR EIGHT YEARS NOW,
NINE YEARS NOW, ON THAT WEBSITE
ARE HER FRIENDS.
WHEN SHE'S HOME ALONE
AND FEELING A LITTLE DEPRESSED,
THAT'S HER OUT.
THAT'S HER ESCAPE
FROM HER LIFE OUT THERE.
DAVID, CLEAR
SOMETHING UP FOR ME.
THESE MEN ARE ACTUALLY
PAYING HER...
NOT PAYING HER.
TO BE IN A FRIENDSHIP
WITH HER, CORRECT?
THEY'RE PAYING
TO BE ON THE SITE
BY THE MINUTE
TO TALK TO HER, YES.
BUT DAVID, YOU LOOK LIKE
SUCH AN INTELLIGENT PERSON.
AND IT'S A BUSINESS.
THIS IS A BUSINESS.
AND I KNOW YOU LOVE HER,
AND I CAN SEE IT.
I PAY TO BE
ON THE WEBSITES
TO AVOID BEING SCAMMED.
AND I CAN EASILY AFFORD IT,
SO IT'S NOT A POOR MAN'S GAME.
WE ADMIT THIS.
IT'S NOT A POOR MAN'S GAME.
YEAH, BUT DAVID,
SEVEN YEARS, BUDDY?
SEVEN YEARS.
YOU'RE BEING SCAMMED.
SHE IS NOT.
ED, ED...
OKAY, BUT I HEARD THAT
THERE WERE CATALOGS
THAT YOU USED TO GET THAT
WERE ACTUALLY MAILED TO YOU.
THAT'S HOW I DISCOVERED IT
BACK IN 1994, 1995
BEFORE THE CHAT SITES.
THERE WAS NO CHAT.
THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION
WITH GIRLS.
THERE WERE JUST PICTURES.
OKAY, AND SO YOU'D KIND OF
FLIP THROUGH
LIKE A PHOTO ALBUM
AND LOOK AT
WHO YOU'RE INTERESTED IN.
YES, AND YOU WOULD SAY,
"OH, I INVITE THAT GIRL
TO THE SOCIAL."
AND THEN YOU WOULD GO TO KIEV,
AND YOU ‐‐
AT THE SOCIAL, SHE WOULD
BE THERE IF SHE ACCEPTED.
HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU
BEEN TO THE UKRAINE?
20‐PLUS.
WOW, DAVID.
THAT'S A LOT.
IT'S AN AMAZING ADVENTURE.
WH‐‐ DAVID,
HOW MUCH MONEY
HAVE YOU SPENT
GOING OVER TO UKRAINE,
BEING ON THESE SITES?
HOW MUCH WOULD YOU SAY
THE TOTAL COST HAS BEEN?
OH...
I MEAN, TO BE HONEST,
IT'S PROBABLY
QUARTER MILLION
TO $300,000 OR SO.
OH, MY GOD.
THERE WAS A DISCUSSION
THAT YOU HAD WITH LANA.
YOU GAVE HER AN iPHONE,
THAT SHE WOULD
GET OFF THE SITE.
YOU GAVE HER THE PHONE,
BUT SHE DIDN'T GET OFF THE SITE.
SHE STAYED ON.
SHE DIDN'T GET OFF THE SITE.
IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR HER TO
MANIPULATE THE iPHONE KEYBOARD
WITH HER NAILS AND STUFF.
IT WASN'T COMFORTABLE FOR HER.
WHAT?! WAIT A MINUTE.
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY?
WH‐‐ WHAT?!
DID YOU JUST SAY
SHE CAN'T USE AN iPHONE
BECAUSE OF HER NAILS?
OH, MY GOD!
SHE SAID,
"WE'LL GET A COMPUTER."
NO, SHE ‐‐
IF YOU SAW THE SHOW...
‐DAVID, YOU CAN'T ‐‐
‐...IF YOU SAW THE SHOW...
‐YOU CAN'T WRITE THIS STUFF.
‐STOP, STOP, STOP.
‐YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP!
‐IF YOU SAW THE SHOW...
OH, MY GOD!
HER NAILS ARE TOO LONG
TO USE AN iPHONE.
SHE DOESN'T LIKE USING
THE iPHONE ON THE SHOW.
YOU WILL SEE
SHE DOESN'T LIKE USING IT.
‐OH, MY GOD. COME ON.
‐GET THIS GUY OFF OF HERE.
GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
‐THIS IS INSANE!
‐GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
‐STOP YELLING, EVERYBODY!
‐HOLD UP.
‐NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
‐ED, ED.
‐DAVID.
YOU JUST TRYING TO RILE ME UP?
GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
‐ED, ED, TAKE IT EASY.
‐COME ON, DAVID, THAT'S ENOUGH.
‐YEAH, DAVID.
‐COME ON, SERIOUSLY.
‐GET HIM OFF THE SHOW.
I'M GONNA SHUT THE COMPUTER...
‐HOLD UP.
‐...UNLESS ED IS OUT OF HERE.
‐NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
GET HIM OUT OF HERE!
$300,000 AND LONG NAILS.
$300,000 AND LONG NAILS.
COME ON.
‐ED, HOLD UP, NOW.
‐YOU SHOULD REALLY STOP.
‐ED, ED, TAKE IT EASY, PLEASE.
‐EVERYBODY CALM DOWN.
‐COME ON, DAVID, THAT'S ENOUGH.
‐YEAH, DAVID.
‐COME ON, SERIOUSLY.
‐GET HIM OFF THE SHOW.
I'M GONNA SHUT THE COMPUTER...
‐HOLD UP.
‐...UNLESS ED IS OUT OF HERE.
‐NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
GET HIM OUT OF HERE!
$300,000 AND LONG NAILS.
$300,000 AND LONG NAILS.
COME ON.
‐ED, HOLD UP, NOW.
‐YOU SHOULD REALLY STOP.
‐ED, ED, TAKE IT EASY, PLEASE.
‐EVERYBODY CALM DOWN.
DAVID, I'M SORRY.
DAVID, I'M SORRY.
I JUST ‐‐ SORRY.
OKAY, DAVID, I'M JUST ‐‐
I'M REALLY
KIND OF STRUGGLING
WITH THIS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND
THESE DATING SITES.
SO, WE HAVE WITH US
A FAMILIAR FACE
TO "90 DAY FIANCé" VIEWERS.
WE HAVE CAESAR HERE JOINING US.
HEY, CAESAR.
GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
HEY, WHAT'S UP?
HOW ARE YOU DOING?
SO, CAESAR,
YOU'VE BEEN ON THESE SITES.
WHAT DO YOU THINK
ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN DAVID AND LANA?
DID YOU THINK
IT WAS REAL?
I FELT IT WAS REAL,
BUT THE THING THAT
I'M REALLY THINKING ABOUT
IS THAT IF SHE REALLY
DOES CARE ABOUT HIM,
THAT SHE WOULD BASICALLY
GET HERSELF OFF OF THE WEBSITE,
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE
IF SHE'S NOT DOING THAT,
YOU KNOW, THEN IT'S JUST ‐‐
IT'S JUST A GAME.
WELL, REMEMBER,
THEY MIGHT TALK TO 100 GUYS
BEFORE ONE GUY WILL EVEN SAY
HE'LL COME MEET HER,
AND THAT PERSON PROBABLY
WON'T COME MEET HER.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA JUST
JUMP OFF THE WEBSITE
ANYTIME SOMEBODY SAYS,
"YES, I LOVE YOU.
I WANT TO COME SEE YOU,"
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AH, WELL, YEAH.
AND CAESAR, AS YOU KNOW,
A LOT OF PEOPLE
WERE WONDERING
IF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
YOU AND MARIA WAS REAL.
DAVID, HAVE YOU EVER
SEEN MARIA
ON ANY OF
THESE DATING SITES?
YES, ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO,
I TALKED TO HER
FOR ABOUT 30 MINUTES.
AND WHAT WAS
THAT CONVERSATION?
SHE WAS A LITTLE MORE
HIGH‐MAINTENANCE
THAN WHAT I LIKE,
AND THAT WAS IT,
SO OUR CONVERSATION
WAS 30 MINUTES AND DONE.
SO, THE CONVERSATION THAT DAVID
HAD WITH MARIA, CAESAR,
IS THE SAME TIME THAT YOU
AND MARIA HAD A RELATIONSHIP.
YEAH, WHEN YOU'RE ON
THE WEBSITE,
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BASICALLY
TALKING TO
MORE THAN ONE ONE GIRL THERE
AT A TIME,
SO I KNOW THAT THE WOMEN WERE
DOING THAT AT THE SAME TIME.
THAT'S WHY I HAD TO
KIND OF, LIKE,
GET HER OFF OF THE WEBSITE,
'CAUSE IF YOU DON'T DO THAT,
THEN, YOU KNOW,
JUST LIKE REAL LIFE,
THEY COULD PICK AND CHOOSE
JUST LIKE WE CAN.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN
YOU GET CUT OFF.
AND PLUS, YOU'RE SPENDING
A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE WEBSITE.
OKAY, DAVID, HOW MANY WOMEN
HAVE YOU TALKED TO
ON THESE RUSSIAN DATING SITES
OVER THE YEARS?
HOW MANY WOULD YOU SAY
IT HAS BEEN?
WHY DO YOU LAUGH, CAESAR?
'CAUSE I WAS DOING IT,
YOU KNOW?
YOU COULD TALK TO
AS MANY AS YOU WANT, YOU KNOW?
10, 12.
I'M GONNA SAY OVER 1,000.
YEAH. YOU COULD TALK TO
AS MANY AS YOU WANT.
YOU CAN GET
A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM.
WHAT?!
OH, WOW.
SO, CAESAR, DID YOU EVER
MEET MARIA IN PERSON?
YES, I DID. YEAH.
I FLEW DOWN TO UKRAINE,
AND I STAYED THERE
FOR 13 DAYS IN KIEV.
DID YOU TAKE THE CHOCOLATE
PANTIES WITH YOU?
‐OKAY, SO...
‐YEAH.
OKAY, SO YOU FINALLY
MET MARIA IN PERSON.
YES, UH‐HUH.
AND WHAT WAS
THEIR FIRST MEETING LIKE?
THE FIRST MEETING
WAS PRETTY MUCH UNREAL.
YOU KNOW,
WE'RE BOTH SITTING THERE.
I'M SITTING THERE INSIDE OF
A LITTLE, TINY ROOM IN UKRAINE.
YOU KNOW,
I DON'T SPEAK ANY UKRAINIAN,
OR RUSSIAN OR ANYTHING.
YOU KNOW, WE GAVE EACH OTHER
LITTLE KISSES.
BUT WHEN I FLEW OFF AND
CAME BACK TO THE UNITED STATES,
SHE WAS JUST ASKING ME,
SAY, "HEY, CAESAR,
CAN YOU GIVE ME
SOME MONEY?
CAN YOU DO THIS?
CAN YOU HELP ME OUT?"
AND I'M LIKE, "NO.
YOU NEED TO GIVE ME 100%,
AND I'LL GIVE YOU 100%
'CAUSE I'VE ALREADY GAVE
100 ALREADY."
SO, THE MOST THAT HAPPENED
BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU
WAS A LITTLE PECK.
DAVID, CAESAR SAYS HE DID NOT
GET A REAL KISS FROM MARIA.
DID YOU GET A REAL KISS
FROM LANA?
OH, MOST DEFINITELY, YEAH.
I WAS VERY HAPPY.
DID IT GO
BEYOND A KISS?
NO.
I MEAN, SHE'S EASTERN EUROPEAN.
SHE'S COLD.
THAT'S HOW WOMEN OVER THERE ARE.
‐YES. YES.
‐WOMEN IN UKRAINE ARE COLD.
‐THEY ARE.
‐MY MOM IS FROM CZECH REPUBLIC.
AND SHE MARRIED MY DAD
FOR A GREEN CARD IN THE '80s
WHEN CZECH REPUBLIC
WAS PART OF THE SOVIET UNION.
AND, YOU KNOW,
A PART OF ME BELIEVES
THAT IF LANA WANTS
TO COME OVER HERE,
IF SHE REALLY WANTS A GREEN CARD
AND TO END UP MARRIED,
SHE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN.
I THINK DAVID IS IN DENIAL
BECAUSE SEVEN YEARS
IS A LONG TIME.
I MEAN, I THOUGHT SEVEN MONTHS
FOR ME WAS LONG,
BUT SEVEN YEARS?
NO WAY.
HE'S DEFINITELY IN DENIAL.
YOU'RE BEING SCAMMED AND ‐‐
IT'S TIME TO GET ED
OUT OF HERE.
HE HAS NO IDEA.
ED HAS NO IDEA.
YOU GOT SCREWED.
I'M SORRY.
GET OUT OF HERE.
GET OUT OF HERE.
CALM DOWN
FOR JUST A SECOND.
JUST LET THE DUDE DO WHAT
HE WANTS TO DO, YOU KNOW?
NOTHING WE SAY HERE TODAY
IS GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
WHAT IS THE STATUS
OF YOUR RELATIONSHIP TODAY?
TODAY, I WOULD SAY
WE'RE NOT TOGETHER.
‐ARE YOU ENGAGED OR NOT?
‐YES.
I'M SO CONFUSED.
SHE TOLD ME A COUPLE WEEKS AGO
THAT ALL SHE WANTED
WAS A WHITE PICKET FENCE
AND A SIMPLE LIFE WITH ME
AND TRAVELING IN THE RV.
SHE LOVES THAT IDEA.
BUT RIGHT NOW, TODAY,
I THINK WE'RE NOT TOGETHER.
THAT'S NOT SAYING THAT WE WON'T
BE TOGETHER IN THE FUTURE,
BUT WE'RE NOT TOGETHER.
DAVID, I WISH YOU
THE VERY, VERY BEST.
‐THANK YOU.
‐THAT IS IT FOR
THE COUPLES TELL ALL."
THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR COUPLES
FOR OPENING UP
AND SHARING THEIR STORIES.
AND DON'T FORGET TO JOIN US
AGAIN NEXT WEEK
FOR A SPECIAL CONCLUSION TO
THE COUPLES TELL ALL"
WITH EVEN MORE SURPRISES
YOU WON'T WANT TO MISS.
THE COUPLES TELL ALL"...
AVERY AND ASH, WHAT HAPPENED?
WHY'D YOU BREAK UP?
BECAUSE HE LIED TO MY FACE.
WOW.
I APOLOGIZE IF I HURT YOU.
YOU ARE A MASSIVE NARCISSIST.
COME ON.
AFTER ALL OF THIS, DO YOU THINK
THAT YOU AND STEPHANIE
COULD BE FRIENDS?
DID WILLIAMS SOUND
BRITISH TO YOU?
‐NO. NO.
‐HE SOUND LIKE USMAN.
IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE
HE'S AN UNTRUSTWORTHY PERSON.
I'M NOT WILLING TO CONTINUE
TALKING WHILE SHE'S HERE.
WE DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT
WHAT THE ISSUE IS.
IT'S IRRELEVANT.
‐SHE HAS A VOICE.
LET HER TALK.
‐TOM, WHAT HAPPENED?
YOU KNOW SOMETHING, THIS IS
COMPLETE AND UTTER BULL.
LIKE, SERIOUSLY.
‐OKAY, WE JUST LOST TOM.
CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY
DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS
MY PRODUCER IS TELLING ME
THAT WE'RE STILL TRYING
TO GET TOM BACK,
BUT WE DON'T KNOW
WHERE HE IS RIGHT NOW,
SO WE DON'T KNOW IF HE'S GOING
TO COME BACK.
AVERY? OKAY, EVERYBODY'S
CONFUSED RIGHT NOW,
WHAT HAPPENED?
I, YOU KNOW,
I'M NOT IN A RELATIONSHIP.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS,
IS WHEN TOM FOUND OUT
THAT I WASN'T IN A RELATIONSHIP,
HE CAME TO ME AND WAS LIKE,
YOU KNOW,
"YOU ARE REALLY ATTRACTIVE
AND WE CAN HAVE DINNER TOGETHER.
MAYBE I'M NOT YOUR TYPE
OR MAYBE I AM."
THAT'S ‐‐ THAT'S HIS STYLE.
AND I WAS LIKE,
"OKAY, WELL, FIRST OFF,
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN."
AND HE SCREENSHOTTED ME
COMMUNICATING TO HIM SAYING,
"YEAH, WE COULD, LIKE, HANG
OUT," AND SENT IT TO ASH,
AND WAS LIKE,
"LOOK WHAT AVERY'S DOING."
HE'S ALWAYS BEEN
A VERY DECEPTIVE PERSON,
SO YOU NEVER REALLY GOT TO KNOW
THE TRUTH, YOU KNOW.
BUT YOU COULD SEE BY HIS
DEMEANOR, THAT'S HIS STYLE.
YOU COULD READ
HIS BODY LANGUAGE.
NOBODY'S A FOOL HERE.
WE GET IT. WE GET IT.
ULTIMATE, LIKE, THING THAT,
LIKE, TURNS ME OFF
IS LIKE ANY TIME SOMEBODY
SCREENSHOTS A CONVERSATION
AND SENDS IT
TO SOMEBODY ELSE LIKE THAT,
THAT IS, LIKE, LITERALLY LIKE,
"ARE WE IN HIGH SCHOOL?"
EXACTLY. I'M LIKE,
THIS IS SUCH CHILDISH BEHAVIOR.
AND IT JUST SHOWED ME
LIKE A CERTAIN SIDE OF TOM
THAT I WAS LIKE,
"OKAY, SO TOM IS OUT FOR TOM,"
AND...
THAT'S WHEN I STARTED TO FEEL HE
WASN'T REALLY IN LOVE WITH ME,
TOM WAS OUT FOR TOM.
YOU CAN'T REALLY ESCAPE
YOUR OWN BEHAVIOR.
IT ALL COMES OUT AT SOME POINT.
‐TOM, ARE YOU THERE? HEY, THERE.
‐I AM HERE.
YES, I AM.
‐HAD TO TAKE A QUICK SMOKE.
THAT'S TRUE.
OKAY. SO, TOM, I'D LIKE TO HEAR
YOUR SIDE TO THIS STORY.
DID YOU ASK AVERY OUT ON A DATE?
YES.
SHE'S AN ATTRACTIVE WOMAN.
I CAN ASK PEOPLE
WHATEVER I WANT.
I HAVE NO ONE TO ANSWER TO.
IT WASN'T ME THAT HAD SPLIT UP
TWO DAYS BEFORE
WITH HER BOYFRIEND, BUT HEY...
AND I'M FLATTERED.
THANK YOU FOR SAYING, "YES."
AND THEN THANK YOU FOR REALIZING
THAT IT WAS A BAD MISTAKE
TO ACTUALLY ENTERTAIN THE IDEA
AND THEN SAY, "NO."
WELL, I THOUGHT
IT WAS A BAD IDEA
BECAUSE I HAD NO ‐‐ NO ACTUAL
PERSONAL INTENTIONS BEHIND IT,
AND YOU DECIDED TO SCREENSHOT IT
AND SEND IT TO MY EX‐BOYFRIEND.
NO.
FOR I DON'T EVEN KNOW
WHAT PURPOSES.
NO, I DIDN'T.
SO...
WELL, THAT'S WHAT
I WAS TOLD BY ASH.
SO IF I'M WRONG, THEN I NEED
CLARITY ON THAT, AS WELL.
BECAUSE I WOULD WONDER
WHY ASH CAME TO ME
NOT EVEN LONG AFTER THAT AND WAS
LIKE, "HAVE FUN WITH TOM.
HE SHOWED ME
THE WHOLE CONVERSATION."
TOM, DID YOU SEND A SCREENSHOT
OF YOUR TEXT MESSAGES
WITH AVERY TO ASH?
WHY ON EARTH WOULD I DO THAT?
THAT ‐‐ THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER
TO THE QUESTION.
I DIDN'T SEND ASH A SCREENSHOT
OF MY CONVERSATION
BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT I DO.
HOW DID ASH KNOW THEN?
BECAUSE I ASKED ASH,
WAS IT OVER?
WAS YOUR RELATIONSHIP OVER?
HE WOULD'VE RESPONDED, "YES."
AND THEN WHAT PROCEEDED
AFTER THAT?
‐THAT'S IT.
‐ASH, CAN YOU TELL ME
HOW YOU FOUND OUT THAT TOM ASKED
AVERY OUT?
SO HE TOLD YOU
THAT HE ASKED AVERY OUT,
BUT THEN YOU CONTACTED ‐‐
SENDING SCREENSHOTS ‐‐
I WASN'T SENDING SCREENSHOTS.
‐TOM, HOLD UP.
‐NO, BUT I WASN'T SENDING
SCREENSHOTS
OF INFORMATION TO ASH.
WE PURELY HAD A CONVERSATION
ABOUT IT.
- OKAY, HOLD UP FOR JUST A SECOND.
- ASH, DID TOM SEND YOU
A SCREENSHOT OF THEIR TEXT
BETWEEN HIM AND AVERY?
WHY DID YOU LIE TO HER?
YOU FEEL TOM DID SOMETHING WRONG
BY ASKING AVERY OUT?
YOU WERE ANNOYED WITH TOM
FOR ASKING HER OUT?
WHAT DID I DO?
I'M SORRY. WE WERE NOT TOGETHER
IN A RELATIONSHIP, ASH.
I'LL JUST TELL YOU THIS,
I HAVE A LOT OF MEN
WHO COME INTO MY LIFE
WHO TRY TO HIT ON ME
OR TRY TO ASSERT TYPES
OF ATTRACTION TOWARDS ME,
AND I JUST ASSERT
MY BOUNDARIES,
AND THAT'S USUALLY
WHAT STOPS IT.
I WAS JUST
BEING PLEASANT.
SEE, THAT'S
THE THING, TOM ‐‐
TOM, YOU KEEP GOING BACK
AND FORTH, YOU'RE LIKE,
"YES, I WAS
HITTING ON HER.
YES, I WAS WANTING
TO ASK HER OUT ON A DATE."
SO THEN WHEN I SAY THAT,
YOU COME BACK AND YOU GO,
"I WAS JUST TRYING
TO BE PLEASANT."
TOM, DID YOU ALSO
ASK STEPHANIE OUT?
YEAH, BUT SHE'S HOT.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO OUT
WITH STEPH.
LISTEN, I DIDN'T
TAKE IT THAT WAY,
AND I JUST LIKE TO KEEP
IT CIVIL AND NICE...
STEPH, I WAS HITTING ON YOU.
BE HONEST.
I WAS HITTING ON YOU. I WAS.
‐I REALLY DID NOT. I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S LIKE I HIT ON STEPH AND
SHE DOESN'T KNOW,
AND I'M ASKING SOMEONE OUT TO
JUST GO FOR DINNER,
AND THEY THINK IT'S A DATE.
‐HEY, DARCEY, LOVE YOU.
‐LOVE YOU, TOO.
IT'S SO FUNNY HOW
IT'S LIKE TOM'S
GETTING SO MUCH ENJOYMENT
OUT OF THIS
BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY
HURTS PEOPLE.
HEY, LISA.
WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN THINKING
AS YOU'VE BEEN LISTENING
TO THIS CONVERSATION?
WELL, I WAS A LITTLE PISSED OFF
WHEN YOU GUYS RAILROADED TOM,
AND, YOU KNOW,
WOMEN, DON'T BE CHATTY
BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE DO IT.
WE WILL RAILROAD A MAN
INTO THE CORNER.
LISA?
HAVE I ASKED YOU WHEN YOU'RE
IN NEW YORK TO GO TO DINNER?
YES, YOU HAVE.
DID I SAY I THOUGHT
YOU LOOKED GREAT?
YES, YOU DID. BUT DID I
TAKE IT OFFENSIVELY?
NO. BECAUSE
OF HIS DEMEANOR.
I'M NOT OFFENDED
BY IT.
AVERY, WHY ARE YOU
OFFENDED BY IT?
OKAY, BUT I DIDN'T TAKE IT
OFFENSIVELY EITHER
UNTIL IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY
EX‐BOYFRIEND FOR NO REASON.
YOU SAID IT WAS SCREENSHOTTED,
WHICH IT WASN'T.
FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD NOW,
IT WAS A LIE THAT HE TOLD ME
THAT WAS SCREENSHOTTED.
‐DID YOU APOLOGIZE?
‐DID I APOLOGIZE TO WHO?
I'M NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE
FOR ANYTHING
THAT I FEEL LIKE...
‐YOU ACCUSED TOM
OR PHOTO SNAPPING A PICTURE
AND SENDING YOUR CONVERSATION.
BUT YOU JUST HEARD FROM ASH
WHO SAID IT WAS A LIE.
‐I AM SORRY.
OKAY, SO, TOM, I APOLOGIZE
FOR ACCUSING YOU OF THAT.
THE CONVERSATION STILL
WAS HAD WITH ASH.
BUT THE THING IS,
IS THAT I STILL DON'T FIND YOU
AS A VERY TRUSTWORTHY PERSON.
BUT THAT'S OKAY,
YOU'RE ENTITLED THAT MY OPINION.
WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED
I'M AN [BLEEP.
AVERY, DO YOU THINK THERE IS
A DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN TOM ASKING YOU OUT
AND TOM ASKING LISA OUT?
I BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOU PUT
WORDS LIKE,
"NOW THAT YOU'RE SINGLE
AND I'M SINGLE, " AND " I FIND YOU
EXTREMELY ATTRACTIVE.
WE SHOULD HANG OUT."
AND "MAYBE I'M YOUR TYPE."
"IF I'M NOT YOUR TYPE,
THEN OF COURSE,
WE CAN JUST HANG OUT NORMALLY."
HOW AM I GOING TO TAKE THAT?
I'M PRETTY SURE HE DIDN'T SAY
THINGS LIKE THAT
TO LISA IN THAT WAY.
YOU BLEW YOUR COVER.
YOU BLEW YOUR COVER, TOM.
DARCEY AND TOM, DO YOU THINK
THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING
TO MOVE FORWARD
AT LEAST AS FRIENDS?
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT,
MY LIFE'S BEEN A HUGE JOURNEY,
IT'S KIND OF
LIKE A NEVER‐ENDING STORY.
YOU NEVER KNOW
WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS.
BUT, YOU KNOW,
I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST, TOM.
BUT RIGHT NOW, MY LIFE,
I'M FOCUSED ON ME
AND MY KIDS AND, YOU KNOW,
MY FUTURE.
AND WE HAD SOME GREAT TIMES
AND THERE ARE CHERISHED MEMORIES
THAT I ALWAYS HAVE,
BUT FOR NOW, I'M HAPPY
JUST BEING ME RIGHT NOW.
TOM, WHAT ABOUT YOU?
HINDSIGHT'S
A WONDERFUL THING, DARCEY.
AND GOD KNOWS I'VE MADE
SO MANY BLOODY
MISTAKES IN OUR RELATIONSHIP.
SOME OUT OF NOT KNOWING
WHO I WAS AS A PERSON,
SOME JUST PETULANCE ON MY PART
FOR NOT ACTUALLY DOING
WHAT I SHOULD HAVE DONE.
AND I CAN ONLY
BE SORRY FOR THAT.
I CAN ONLY BE SORRY.
AND I HOPE ONE DAY, IF NOT NOW,
BUT IN THE FUTURE, YOU WILL SEE
THAT I DID LOVE YOU,
AND I'M SORRY IF I EVER DID
ANYTHING THAT HURT YOU
BECAUSE I NEVER MEANT
THAT AND I DIDN'T.
I ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY, OKAY.
LIFE GOES ON.
I'M STRONG ENOUGH.
I'M NOT A WEAK WOMAN.
‐I KNOW YOU'RE NOT.
‐I HAVE TWO BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTERS.
I KNOW YOU'RE NOT.
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.
THANK YOU. BECAUSE I AM.
WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE TO UNCOVER
WHEN "90 DAY FIANCé:
THE COUPLES TELL ALL" RETURNS.
WOW, TALK ABOUT FULL ON.
FIRST OFF, IT CONFIRMED THE FACT
THAT I CAN'T TRUST A DAMN WORD
OUT OF ASH'S MOUTH.
HE ONCE AGAIN LIED TO ME,
WHICH IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE
NOT IN A RELATIONSHIP ANYMORE.
LIKE, SERIOUSLY. DID I ASK
AVERY OUT ON A DATE DATE?
NO, I DIDN'T, I WAS JUST LIKE,
"YOU'RE SINGLE, I'M SINGLE,
LET'S GO OUT.
LET'S HAVE SOME FUN.
LET'S GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER."
I'M A TERRIBLE FLIRT.
WHAT CAN I SAY?
I HAVE ASKED LISA OUT, AS WELL.
SO, SHE DIDN'T SEEM TO THINK
I WAS HITTING ON HER,
ALTHOUGH I DID SAY
SHE WAS VERY ATTRACTIVE.
I'M GLAD I ENDED IT WHEN I
DECIDED TO END IT
BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER GONNA END
ON HIS END,
IT WAS, LIKE, TOM'S WAY
OR THE HIGHWAY.
I'M NOT GOING TO CATCH A BREAK,
I DO BELIEVE.
COMING UP...
USMAN, POLYGAMY IS ALLOWED
IN YOUR CULTURE...
DO YOU SEE YOURSELVES
TAKING MORE WIVES?
AND LATER...
SO LANA'S STILL
ON THOSE DATING SITES?
YES.
WHAT?
IF SHE'S ENGAGED TO YOU
THAT MEANS SHE'S NOT ON
ANY MORE WEBSITES.
GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
GET HIM OUT.
HE'S JUST AN IDIOT!
‐COME ON!
‐GUYS, GUYS, STOP IT.
‐STOP YELLING, EVERYBODY.
WE'RE GOING TO TURN NOW
AND TALK ABOUT LISA AND USMAN
AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP.
WHERE DOES IT STAND TODAY?
THEY OBVIOUSLY GOT MARRIED.
CONGRATULATIONS, GUYS.
‐THANK YOU, SHAUN. THANK YOU.
‐THANK YOU.
LISA, WAS YOUR WEDDING
EVERYTHING YOU WANTED IT TO BE?
IT WAS.
THE MAIN OBJECTIVE
WAS TO MARRY MY BEST FRIEND.
IT WAS NOT THE TRADITIONAL
HAUSA WEDDING,
BUT HE CREATED
A FAIRY‐TALE WEDDING.
IT WAS A FAIRY‐TALE WEDDING
FOR LISA, USMAN.
WHAT ABOUT FOR YOU?
THAT'S BECAUSE
YOU'RE BULL‐HEADED, THAT'S WHY.
BUT WE HAVE BEEN SEEING
ON SOCIAL MEDIA,
THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD.
YOU GUYS HAVE BROKEN UP
A FEW TIMES
SINCE YOU GOT MARRIED.
I WOULDN'T SAY BROKEN UP.
WE DIDN'T BREAK UP BECAUSE
WE'VE JUST BLOCKED EACH OTHER.
BREAKING UP IS SOMETHING
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
WELL, WHEN YOU'RE ‐‐
WHEN YOU'RE BLOCKING
YOUR HUSBAND,
I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S ‐‐
THAT'S A BIG DEAL.
SO, USMAN, WHAT HAS HAPPENED
SINCE YOU GUYS GOT BACK,
SINCE LISA GOT BACK
TO THE STATES?
USMAN, LET'S TELL THE TRUTH
BECAUSE THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT.
NO, YOU LISTEN
BECAUSE ‐‐
NO, NO, NO...
I CAN SEE I'M GONNA
DISCONNECT ALREADY.
I CAN SEE I'M GONNA
HANG UP.
TRY ME, TRY ME.
NO, NO.
YOU'RE GONNA BE STUPID.
NO, NO.
USMAN, LET ME TELL YOU
SOMETHING.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
YOU GET ON YOUR PLATFORM.
LET'S CHECK YOUR PLATFORM
OF ALL THE BULL
COMING OUT OF THESE
FRICKIN' FANS' MOUTH.
LET'S SAY ABOUT
THE BULL
YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT
THE AMERICAN WOMEN ARE LIKE?
THEY'RE VILE.
YOU SEE THEM IN YOUR DMs.
YOU SEE THE NUDE PICTURES
THEY SEND YOU.
THEY SEND YOU NOTHING
BUT BULL RUBBISH.
NOW, YOU'RE GONNA CALL
A SPADE BY A SPADE?
I'M CALLING IT.
HEY, LISA, OKAY,
WHY HAVE YOU GUYS
BLOCKED EACH OTHER
SEVERAL TIMES
SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN
BACK TO THE STATES?
IT IS USUALLY USMAN
WHO BLOCKS ME.
USMAN HAS THE BIGGEST ATTITUDE
IN NIGERIA.
HE IS THE MOST STUBBORN MAN.
HE WANTS TO BE IN CONTROL
OF EVERYTHING
BECAUSE OVER THERE, THE MEN
DO DOMINATE THEIR WOMEN.
WHY HAVE YOU BLOCKED LISA,
USMAN?
I MEAN, THIS IS YOUR WIFE.
WHY HAVE YOU BLOCKED HER
SINCE YOU GUYS GOT MARRIED?
IF YOU START THIS
AGAIN...
DO NOT OPEN ‐‐
DO NOT OPEN THAT CAN OF WORMS.
DO NOT.
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
NO, LET'S SEE
WHERE THIS GOES.
YOU JUST OPENED
THAT CAN OF WORMS.
USMAN, I GOT TO TELL YOU,
I HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR YOU,
HOW CALM YOU ARE,
HOW RESPECTFUL YOU ARE.
I'VE NEVER SEEN YOU USE
ONE FOUL WORD,
EVER SEEN YOU
BE DISRESPECTFUL.
AND LISA,
AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,
YOU'RE LIKE A BULL
IN A CHINA SHOP.
AND IT'S ‐‐
I MEAN, THIS GUY ‐‐
I DON'T KNOW WHAT
HE COULD HAVE DONE FOR YOU.
HE SHOWED YOU
SO MUCH RESPECT,
YOU KNOW, THAT YOU KNEW...
YOU KNOW WHAT, ED?
I'M GONNA STOP YOU
RIGHT THERE, ED, OKAY?
I'M TAKING YOUR ‐‐
I'M HEARING YOUR WORDS,
BUT YOU WANT TO JUMP ON HERE
AND DISRESPECT ME,
PLEASE DON'T.
IT'S NOT ABOUT DISRESPECT.
I'M JUST BEING HONEST
WITH YOU.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'M ‐‐
ED!
WHAT THE HELL DO YOU KNOW
ABOUT HONESTY?
WHAT THE DO YOU KNOW
ABOUT HONESTY?
AND, USMAN, NOT ALL AMERICAN
WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT.
THAT'S WHY ASH
DUMPED YOUR ASS.
USMAN, SHE IS THE EXCEPTION
TO THE RULE.
THERE ARE SO MANY MORE
NICER WOMEN
THAT AREN'T DISRESPECTFUL
LIKE SHE IS.
SHE TREATED YOU
LIKE A PIECE OF
ED, YOU
YOU TREATED HIM
LIKE A LITTLE GOAT.
- YOU'RE THE GOAT!
- YOU'RE THE GOAT!
- YOU'RE THE GOAT.
- YOU.
LISA, IF YOU ‐‐
USMAN AND I
DO NOT USE EACH OTHER.
NO, SHUT THE UP.
I'M TALKING.
‐LISA ‐‐
‐I'M TALKING.
THE WAY YOU TALK TO ROSE ‐‐
YOU TOLD ROSE
SHAVE HER LEGS
WHEN YOU'RE COMING IN WITH
YOUR GREASED‐UP HAIR,
LOOKING LIKE A
BUM YOURSELF.
THEN YOU SAY SHE'S
TAKING YOUR MONEY,
TALKING ABOUT SHOW ‐‐
PUT A SOCK IN YOUR MOUTH
AND LISTEN TO ME.
SHUT UP. SHUT UP.
LISA. LISA, PLEASE ‐‐
LISA CAN'T HANDLE
THE TRUTH.
OH, DUDE, RUN.
RUN!
USMAN, RUN.
USMAN, RUN.
NO, AND NO AMERICAN WOMAN
WILL PUT UP WITH ANY MAN
TALKING TO ANOTHER WOMAN
WHEN THEY'RE MARRIED.
HE WAS CHATTING A WOMAN.
THIS WOMAN'S SAYING,
"I LOVE YOU."
YOU KNOW, SHE TRIED TO
HOOK UP WITH HIM BEFORE.
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
NOT COOL WITH ME.
YOU WERE DOING IT BY TEXT.
YOU WERE DOING IT BY TEXT.
OKAY, HANG ON, YES.
THAT SHE LOVES YOU, BUT BECAUSE
YOU'RE WITH A WHITE WOMAN,
SHE WANTS YOU
TO BE WITH HER.
HE WAS PLAYING MR. PLAYBOY
IS WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO DO.
OH, NO.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
I HAVE MALE AND FEMALE STRIPPERS
RUNNING THROUGH MY FACEBOOK FEED
JUST FOR THEIR ADVERTISEMENT
ACROSS THE STATES.
YOUR FAMILY ‐‐
IF THEY SAW THAT YOU GOT
A PORN STAR
ON YOUR SITE,
WHAT DO YOU THINK
MUHAMMAD WOULD SAY?
WHAT DO YOU THINK
MOMMY WOULD SAY?
YOU HAVE REALLY DISRESPECTED
THE NIGERIAN CULTURE OVER THERE
BY PUTTING THAT
ON YOUR PAGE.
THIS IS THE POR‐‐
THIS IS A PORN STAR?
YES. YEAH.
SO THAT'S NOT THE SAME PERSON.
WHO IS THIS WOMAN?
SHE'S A PORN STAR,
A BAD ONE, AT THAT.
HOW WOULD YOUR FAMILY REACT
IF I TOLD THEM WHAT...
LISTEN!
OKAY. LISA, DO YOU THINK
THAT USMAN HAS BEEN
UNFAITHFUL TO YOU
AT ANY POINT
IN YOUR RELATIONSHIP?
UNFAITHFUL PHYSICALLY?
NO.
SO, YOU DON'T THINK HE'S BEEN
UNFAITHFUL TO YOU PHYSICALLY,
BUT YOU LOOK AT THE TEXTING
BACK AND FORTH,
THE EMOJIS, AND ALL OF THAT
AS A FORM OF INFIDELITY.
IS THAT RIGHT?
I CONSIDER THAT
TO BE VERY DISRESPECTFUL.
IF YOU LOVE
THE PERSON YOU'RE WITH,
YOU DON'T CARRY ON
THE CONVERSATION.
I DON'T CARRY ON
CONVERSATIONS WITH MEN
AND LET THEM SAY
"I LOVE YOU,"
AND I DON'T TELL THEM
"I LOVE YOU."
AND THAT THERE IS
JUST VERY UNACCEPTABLE.
USMAN, HERE'S WHAT I WANTED
TO ASK YOU ABOUT.
THERE WAS AN INTERVIEW
THAT YOU DID
WHERE YOU TALKED ABOUT
YOUR CULTURE
ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE
UP TO FOUR WIVES.
OKAY, SO POLYGAMY IS ALLOWED
IN YOUR CULTURE.
DO YOU SEE YOURSELVES
TAKING MORE WIVES?
UM...
USMAN...
DO YOU SEE YOURSELVES
TAKING MORE WIVES?
UM...
OH, MY GOD!
OH, MY GOD.
SO, LISA, DID YOU KNOW ABOUT HIM
TAKING A SECOND WIFE?
YES.
I'M 53 YEARS OLD.
I UNDERSTAND ABOUT
THE CHILDBEARING YEARS.
BUT ALSO, REMEMBER,
IN THIS TYPE OF LIFESTYLE,
THEY MUST BE ABLE TO PROVIDE
FOR THE FIRST WIFE ‐‐
HER HOUSE, HER CAR,
HER INSURANCE, HER FOOD.
THEY MUST BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ALL
THIS STUFF FOR THE FIRST WIFE
BEFORE THEY COULD
TAKE A SECOND.
HIM AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS
FOR THREE YEARS.
THE POINT BEING IS
HERE IN AMERICA,
A SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH WIFE
DON'T COUNT FOR NOTHING.
OKAY, HOLD UP. LET ME ‐‐ I JUST
GOT TO ASK YOU THIS, LISA.
LISA, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM
WITH WOMEN
SENDING HIM EMOJIS
IN HIS DM.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DEAL
WITH ANOTHER WOMAN
ACTUALLY HAVING SEX
WITH USMAN?
WELL, I SAID
IF HE TAKES FOUR WIVES,
I WILL TAKE
THREE MORE HUSBANDS.
WELL, YOU KNOW,
THAT'S NOT LEGAL
IN THE UNITED STATES.
HE WILL NOT TAKE
ANY MORE WIVES
BECAUSE HE HAS
HIS HANDS FULL WITH ME.
HE DOESN'T NEED
THREE MORE DRAMAS.
BUT IT WOULDN'T MATTER
WHO THE WIFE WAS
'CAUSE YOU KNOW THE PORN‐STAR
WOMAN YOU WERE TALKING TO,
FOR INSTANCE ‐‐
IF YOU TOOK HER AS ANOTHER WIFE,
THEN OBVIOUSLY
LISA'S GONNA BE,
LIKE, REALLY UPSET WITH THAT,
SO YOU WOULDN'T ‐‐
IS THERE A CERTAIN TYPE
OF WOMAN
THAT YOU WOULD WANT
TO BEAR YOUR CHILD
BUT AT THE SAME TIME
BE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU
ALONGSIDE LISA?
THAT TYPE OF WOMAN
IS NEVER ACCEPTABLE.
TRUST ME WHEN I TELL YOU, TOM,
THAT IS ‐‐
LET ME TALK TO TOM.
MM.
JUST FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN,
WHEN YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH,
YOU KNOW,
WOMEN SENDING HIM EMOJIS,
THEN IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE
THAT YOU'RE BEING HONEST
IN THAT REGARD,
THAT YOU WOULD BE FULLY WILLING
TO TAKE ON ANOTHER WIFE.
BUT THAT'S JUST
MY PERCEPTION.
YOUR PERCEPTION ‐‐
I UNDERSTAND,
AND IT'S RESPECTED.
SO YOU WOULD BE OKAY
WITH HIM
BEING INTIMATE
WITH ANOTHER WOMAN
AND LIVING IN
THE SAME HOUSEHOLD
AND ALL OF THAT?
HE WILL NOT LIVE IN ‐‐
THEY DO NOT LIVE
IN THE SAME HOUSEHOLD.
OKAY. SO HE WOULD BE TAKING CARE
OF YOUR GUYS' HOUSEHOLD,
PLUS THEIR HOUSEHOLD
SEPARATE FROM YOU GUYS?
‐MM‐HMM.
‐OKAY.
SO, BUT YOU'D BE TOTALLY FINE
WITH HIM, LIKE,
GOING AND STAYING THERE
AND STAYING WITH THEM
AND HAVING THIS ‐‐
I MEAN, 'CAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE
LIKE PUTTING THE DOG OUT.
AVERY, LISTEN.
AS LONG AS HE CAN PROVIDE
FOR MY HOUSE,
I'M OKAY WITH IT BECAUSE
HERE IN THE UNITED STATES,
THE MARRIAGE IS NOT LEGAL.
THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT
LISA CAN'T CARRY YOUR BABY,
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A LEGITIMATE,
LIKE, QUESTION
TO REALLY THINK ABOUT
BETWEEN YOU GUYS.
NO, NO, NO. IF I CANNOT,
THERE WILL BE
NOT WHAT YOU GUYS CALL
A WIFE.
SHE'S JUST A SECOND PERSON
TO HIS LIFE.
SHE'S NOT LEGALLY A WIFE.
NO, SHE'S NOT.
NO, IT IS.
NO. NO, NOT HERE IN THE ‐‐
NOT IN THE UNITED STATES.
IT IS NOT ACCEPT‐‐
IT'S NOT EVEN...
H‐H‐HOLD UP JUST A SECOND.
USMAN, YOU JUST SAID
YOU HAVE NO INTENTIONS
OF LIVING IN
THE UNITED STATES?
OKAY, LISA, THEN, DO YOU PLAN TO
GO AND MOVE TO NIGERIA?
THAT IS SOMETHING VERY PERSONAL
BETWEEN HIM AND I.
OKAY, OKAY.
SO, I JUST WANT TO
FIND OUT ‐‐
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE FUTURE IS
FOR YOUR RELATIONSHIP?
LISA, I'M GONNA START
WITH YOU.
HIM AND I DISCUSS
A LOT OF THINGS.
OUR RELATIONSHIP
WILL PROCEED FROM HERE
BECAUSE IT IS EXACTLY
WHAT WE'VE SAID.
WE'RE BLENDING TWO PEOPLE
FROM TWO DIFFERENT COUNTRIES,
TWO DIFFERENT CULTURES.
USMAN, YOU SAID A LOT OF
SURPRISING THINGS TONIGHT,
I GOT TO TELL YOU.
SO, WHAT IS THE FUTURE
FOR YOU TWO?
I REALLY HOPE YOU TWO ARE ABLE
TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
THERE IS STILL
A LOT MORE TO COME.
THIS IS "90 DAY FIANCé:
BEFORE THE 90 DAYS:
THE COUPLES TELL ALL."
USMAN ‐‐ YOU KNOW, HE'S
ALLOWED TO HAVE ALL THESE WIVES.
I GET IT.
THAT'S HIS CULTURE.
YOU KNOW,
SHE'S HAD TO ACCEPT THAT
IF SHE HASN'T WANTED TO
IN THE PAST.
YOU KNOW, I THINK SHE JUST WANTS
THE SAME RESPECT IN RETURN.
LISA IS DELUSIONAL.
THAT'S WHY SHE'S ATTACKING HIM.
WHY ARE YOU ACTING LIKE
A 51‐YEAR‐OLD ADOLESCENT?
YOU'RE NOT.
I REALLY LIKE LISA.
I THINK SHE IS HARD‐HEADED.
SHE IS SAVAGE.
AND SHE SAYS WHAT SHE WANTS.
I'M GONNA TRY AND GET ONLINE
WITH LANA RIGHT NOW.
ARE YOU ACTUALLY TALKING NOW
ON THE PHONE TO LANA?
IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR HER TO
MANIPULATE THE iPHONE KEYBOARD
WITH HER NAILS AND STUFF.
WHAT?!
DID YOU JUST SAY
SHE CAN'T USE AN iPHONE
BECAUSE OF HER NAILS?
OH, MY GOD!
YOU JUST TRYING TO RILE ME UP?
‐YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP!
‐OH, MY GOD!
I'M GONNA SHUT THE COMPUTER.
OKAY, I'M GONNA TRY AND GET
ONLINE WITH LANA RIGHT NOW.
LET'S TRY IT OUT HERE.
AND SHE'S NOT ONLINE.
UH...
I DON'T THINK THAT LANA'S
GONNA SHOW UP.
BEFORE THE 90 DAYS:
THE COUPLES TELL ALL."
PLEASE WELCOME THE MAN WHO FLEW
ALL THE WAY TO UKRAINE
NOT ONCE, NOT TWICE,
BUT FIVE TIMES TO FINALLY MEET
HIS GIRLFRIEND, LANA.
DAVID IS HERE.
HI, DAVID.
HELLO, SHAUN.
YOU ARE HERE, DAVID,
BUT LANA IS NOT.
WHERE IS SHE?
I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW
WHERE SHE IS RIGHT NOW.
I'M GONNA GUESS
SHE'S AT HOME.
WHEN WE LEFT YOU AND LANA,
YOU TWO WERE ENGAGED.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME
YOU ACTUALLY TALKED TO LANA?
I THINK IT'S BEEN SIX DAYS.
ARE YOU ACTUALLY TALKING NOW
ON THE PHONE?
NO, LANA DOES NOT
SPEAK ENGLISH.
DO YOU FEEL THAT LANA
WANTS TO GET MARRIED?
LANA IS NOT VERY COMMUNICATIVE
WITH TELLING ME, LIKE,
WHAT'S HAPPENING
OR WHAT'S GOING ON.
‐BUT YOU'RE ENGAGED TO HER.
‐YES.
OKAY, WELL, INITIALLY, WE DIDN'T
EVEN THINK SHE EXISTED,
BUT WE WERE CERTAINLY
PROVEN WRONG.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
I TOLD HER 11:00
AT THIS SPOT.
THERE IS NO ROOM
FOR ERROR ON THIS.
NOW I'M STARTING TO GET NERVOUS.
OH, MY GOD. THAT'S HER.
THAT IS HER.
OH, MY GOD.
OH, WOW.
OH.
OH, IT IS COLD.
LOOK AT YOU.
OH, MY GOD.
WOW.
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT.
DAVID, YOU REALLY GOT EMOTIONAL
DURING THAT CLIP
OF SEEING YOU AND LANA
COME TOGETHER.
WHAT WERE YOU THINKING
AT THAT TIME?
THE STARS LINED UP,
AND WE FINALLY MET.
ED, WERE YOU SHOCKED?
I'M TOTALLY SHOCKED.
I CAN'T BELIEVE HE ‐‐
LIKE, I ‐‐
I CAN'T BELIEVE HE FINALLY ‐‐
YOU MET HER.
I MEAN, CONGRATULATIONS.
BUT I'VE NEVER BEEN
ON A PAID WEBSITE.
AND BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE ‐‐
TO ME, THEY'RE SCAMS,
AND I NEVER HAD
ANY LUCK WITH THEM.
AND IT'S A BUSINESS.
IT'S A TRANSACTION.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND
HOW YOU COULD ALLOW YOURSELF
TO TORTURE YOURSELF
FOR SEVEN YEARS.
I DIDN'T HAVE A RELATIONSHIP
WITH HER FOR SEVEN YEARS.
I'VE KNOWN HER FOR SEVEN YEARS.
SO, DAVID, IS LANA
STILL ON THOSE DATING SITES?
SHE'S STILL ON THE WEBSITES,
YOU KNOW, TALKING TO HER FRIENDS
BECAUSE SHE JUST MOVED
RECENTLY TO KIEV
AND IS LIVING
WITH HER SISTER.
YOU KNOW, DAVID,
I FEEL FOR YOU.
BUT THIS WAS A JOB
FOR HER.
BUT THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE
DON'T UNDERSTAND.
SHE DOESN'T GET PAID.
YOU STILL TODAY DON'T THINK
SHE'S SCAMMING YOU?
OH, I KNOW
SHE'S NOT SCAMMING ME.
LISTEN TO ME, DAVID.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
IF SHE'S ENGAGED TO YOU,
THAT MEANS SHE'S NOT ON
ANY MORE WEBSITES.
NO, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS, ED.
ED, THAT IS NOT HOW IT IS.
‐YES, IT IS.
‐BUT THEN I COULD GO ONLINE...
THE PROBLEM IS I COULD
GO ONLINE TODAY
AND START TALKING TO HER.
I DON'T WANT TO, BUT...
I'D BE HORRIFIED
IF THAT WAS THE CASE.
YOU PROBABLY COULD.
THOSE ARE HER ONLY FRIENDS.
THE PEOPLE THAT SHE'S TALKED TO
FOR EIGHT YEARS NOW,
NINE YEARS NOW, ON THAT WEBSITE
ARE HER FRIENDS.
WHEN SHE'S HOME ALONE
AND FEELING A LITTLE DEPRESSED,
THAT'S HER OUT.
THAT'S HER ESCAPE
FROM HER LIFE OUT THERE.
DAVID, CLEAR
SOMETHING UP FOR ME.
THESE MEN ARE ACTUALLY
PAYING HER...
NOT PAYING HER.
TO BE IN A FRIENDSHIP
WITH HER, CORRECT?
THEY'RE PAYING
TO BE ON THE SITE
BY THE MINUTE
TO TALK TO HER, YES.
BUT DAVID, YOU LOOK LIKE
SUCH AN INTELLIGENT PERSON.
AND IT'S A BUSINESS.
THIS IS A BUSINESS.
AND I KNOW YOU LOVE HER,
AND I CAN SEE IT.
I PAY TO BE
ON THE WEBSITES
TO AVOID BEING SCAMMED.
AND I CAN EASILY AFFORD IT,
SO IT'S NOT A POOR MAN'S GAME.
WE ADMIT THIS.
IT'S NOT A POOR MAN'S GAME.
YEAH, BUT DAVID,
SEVEN YEARS, BUDDY?
SEVEN YEARS.
YOU'RE BEING SCAMMED.
SHE IS NOT.
ED, ED...
OKAY, BUT I HEARD THAT
THERE WERE CATALOGS
THAT YOU USED TO GET THAT
WERE ACTUALLY MAILED TO YOU.
THAT'S HOW I DISCOVERED IT
BACK IN 1994, 1995
BEFORE THE CHAT SITES.
THERE WAS NO CHAT.
THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION
WITH GIRLS.
THERE WERE JUST PICTURES.
OKAY, AND SO YOU'D KIND OF
FLIP THROUGH
LIKE A PHOTO ALBUM
AND LOOK AT
WHO YOU'RE INTERESTED IN.
YES, AND YOU WOULD SAY,
"OH, I INVITE THAT GIRL
TO THE SOCIAL."
AND THEN YOU WOULD GO TO KIEV,
AND YOU ‐‐
AT THE SOCIAL, SHE WOULD
BE THERE IF SHE ACCEPTED.
HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU
BEEN TO THE UKRAINE?
20‐PLUS.
WOW, DAVID.
THAT'S A LOT.
IT'S AN AMAZING ADVENTURE.
WH‐‐ DAVID,
HOW MUCH MONEY
HAVE YOU SPENT
GOING OVER TO UKRAINE,
BEING ON THESE SITES?
HOW MUCH WOULD YOU SAY
THE TOTAL COST HAS BEEN?
OH...
I MEAN, TO BE HONEST,
IT'S PROBABLY
QUARTER MILLION
TO $300,000 OR SO.
OH, MY GOD.
THERE WAS A DISCUSSION
THAT YOU HAD WITH LANA.
YOU GAVE HER AN iPHONE,
THAT SHE WOULD
GET OFF THE SITE.
YOU GAVE HER THE PHONE,
BUT SHE DIDN'T GET OFF THE SITE.
SHE STAYED ON.
SHE DIDN'T GET OFF THE SITE.
IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR HER TO
MANIPULATE THE iPHONE KEYBOARD
WITH HER NAILS AND STUFF.
IT WASN'T COMFORTABLE FOR HER.
WHAT?! WAIT A MINUTE.
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY?
WH‐‐ WHAT?!
DID YOU JUST SAY
SHE CAN'T USE AN iPHONE
BECAUSE OF HER NAILS?
OH, MY GOD!
SHE SAID,
"WE'LL GET A COMPUTER."
NO, SHE ‐‐
IF YOU SAW THE SHOW...
‐DAVID, YOU CAN'T ‐‐
‐...IF YOU SAW THE SHOW...
‐YOU CAN'T WRITE THIS STUFF.
‐STOP, STOP, STOP.
‐YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP!
‐IF YOU SAW THE SHOW...
OH, MY GOD!
HER NAILS ARE TOO LONG
TO USE AN iPHONE.
SHE DOESN'T LIKE USING
THE iPHONE ON THE SHOW.
YOU WILL SEE
SHE DOESN'T LIKE USING IT.
‐OH, MY GOD. COME ON.
‐GET THIS GUY OFF OF HERE.
GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
‐THIS IS INSANE!
‐GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
‐STOP YELLING, EVERYBODY!
‐HOLD UP.
‐NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
‐ED, ED.
‐DAVID.
YOU JUST TRYING TO RILE ME UP?
GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
‐ED, ED, TAKE IT EASY.
‐COME ON, DAVID, THAT'S ENOUGH.
‐YEAH, DAVID.
‐COME ON, SERIOUSLY.
‐GET HIM OFF THE SHOW.
I'M GONNA SHUT THE COMPUTER...
‐HOLD UP.
‐...UNLESS ED IS OUT OF HERE.
‐NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
GET HIM OUT OF HERE!
$300,000 AND LONG NAILS.
$300,000 AND LONG NAILS.
COME ON.
‐ED, HOLD UP, NOW.
‐YOU SHOULD REALLY STOP.
‐ED, ED, TAKE IT EASY, PLEASE.
‐EVERYBODY CALM DOWN.
‐COME ON, DAVID, THAT'S ENOUGH.
‐YEAH, DAVID.
‐COME ON, SERIOUSLY.
‐GET HIM OFF THE SHOW.
I'M GONNA SHUT THE COMPUTER...
‐HOLD UP.
‐...UNLESS ED IS OUT OF HERE.
‐NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
GET HIM OUT OF HERE!
$300,000 AND LONG NAILS.
$300,000 AND LONG NAILS.
COME ON.
‐ED, HOLD UP, NOW.
‐YOU SHOULD REALLY STOP.
‐ED, ED, TAKE IT EASY, PLEASE.
‐EVERYBODY CALM DOWN.
DAVID, I'M SORRY.
DAVID, I'M SORRY.
I JUST ‐‐ SORRY.
OKAY, DAVID, I'M JUST ‐‐
I'M REALLY
KIND OF STRUGGLING
WITH THIS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND
THESE DATING SITES.
SO, WE HAVE WITH US
A FAMILIAR FACE
TO "90 DAY FIANCé" VIEWERS.
WE HAVE CAESAR HERE JOINING US.
HEY, CAESAR.
GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
HEY, WHAT'S UP?
HOW ARE YOU DOING?
SO, CAESAR,
YOU'VE BEEN ON THESE SITES.
WHAT DO YOU THINK
ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN DAVID AND LANA?
DID YOU THINK
IT WAS REAL?
I FELT IT WAS REAL,
BUT THE THING THAT
I'M REALLY THINKING ABOUT
IS THAT IF SHE REALLY
DOES CARE ABOUT HIM,
THAT SHE WOULD BASICALLY
GET HERSELF OFF OF THE WEBSITE,
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE
IF SHE'S NOT DOING THAT,
YOU KNOW, THEN IT'S JUST ‐‐
IT'S JUST A GAME.
WELL, REMEMBER,
THEY MIGHT TALK TO 100 GUYS
BEFORE ONE GUY WILL EVEN SAY
HE'LL COME MEET HER,
AND THAT PERSON PROBABLY
WON'T COME MEET HER.
SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA JUST
JUMP OFF THE WEBSITE
ANYTIME SOMEBODY SAYS,
"YES, I LOVE YOU.
I WANT TO COME SEE YOU,"
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AH, WELL, YEAH.
AND CAESAR, AS YOU KNOW,
A LOT OF PEOPLE
WERE WONDERING
IF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
YOU AND MARIA WAS REAL.
DAVID, HAVE YOU EVER
SEEN MARIA
ON ANY OF
THESE DATING SITES?
YES, ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO,
I TALKED TO HER
FOR ABOUT 30 MINUTES.
AND WHAT WAS
THAT CONVERSATION?
SHE WAS A LITTLE MORE
HIGH‐MAINTENANCE
THAN WHAT I LIKE,
AND THAT WAS IT,
SO OUR CONVERSATION
WAS 30 MINUTES AND DONE.
SO, THE CONVERSATION THAT DAVID
HAD WITH MARIA, CAESAR,
IS THE SAME TIME THAT YOU
AND MARIA HAD A RELATIONSHIP.
YEAH, WHEN YOU'RE ON
THE WEBSITE,
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BASICALLY
TALKING TO
MORE THAN ONE ONE GIRL THERE
AT A TIME,
SO I KNOW THAT THE WOMEN WERE
DOING THAT AT THE SAME TIME.
THAT'S WHY I HAD TO
KIND OF, LIKE,
GET HER OFF OF THE WEBSITE,
'CAUSE IF YOU DON'T DO THAT,
THEN, YOU KNOW,
JUST LIKE REAL LIFE,
THEY COULD PICK AND CHOOSE
JUST LIKE WE CAN.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN
YOU GET CUT OFF.
AND PLUS, YOU'RE SPENDING
A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE WEBSITE.
OKAY, DAVID, HOW MANY WOMEN
HAVE YOU TALKED TO
ON THESE RUSSIAN DATING SITES
OVER THE YEARS?
HOW MANY WOULD YOU SAY
IT HAS BEEN?
WHY DO YOU LAUGH, CAESAR?
'CAUSE I WAS DOING IT,
YOU KNOW?
YOU COULD TALK TO
AS MANY AS YOU WANT, YOU KNOW?
10, 12.
I'M GONNA SAY OVER 1,000.
YEAH. YOU COULD TALK TO
AS MANY AS YOU WANT.
YOU CAN GET
A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM.
WHAT?!
OH, WOW.
SO, CAESAR, DID YOU EVER
MEET MARIA IN PERSON?
YES, I DID. YEAH.
I FLEW DOWN TO UKRAINE,
AND I STAYED THERE
FOR 13 DAYS IN KIEV.
DID YOU TAKE THE CHOCOLATE
PANTIES WITH YOU?
‐OKAY, SO...
‐YEAH.
OKAY, SO YOU FINALLY
MET MARIA IN PERSON.
YES, UH‐HUH.
AND WHAT WAS
THEIR FIRST MEETING LIKE?
THE FIRST MEETING
WAS PRETTY MUCH UNREAL.
YOU KNOW,
WE'RE BOTH SITTING THERE.
I'M SITTING THERE INSIDE OF
A LITTLE, TINY ROOM IN UKRAINE.
YOU KNOW,
I DON'T SPEAK ANY UKRAINIAN,
OR RUSSIAN OR ANYTHING.
YOU KNOW, WE GAVE EACH OTHER
LITTLE KISSES.
BUT WHEN I FLEW OFF AND
CAME BACK TO THE UNITED STATES,
SHE WAS JUST ASKING ME,
SAY, "HEY, CAESAR,
CAN YOU GIVE ME
SOME MONEY?
CAN YOU DO THIS?
CAN YOU HELP ME OUT?"
AND I'M LIKE, "NO.
YOU NEED TO GIVE ME 100%,
AND I'LL GIVE YOU 100%
'CAUSE I'VE ALREADY GAVE
100 ALREADY."
SO, THE MOST THAT HAPPENED
BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU
WAS A LITTLE PECK.
DAVID, CAESAR SAYS HE DID NOT
GET A REAL KISS FROM MARIA.
DID YOU GET A REAL KISS
FROM LANA?
OH, MOST DEFINITELY, YEAH.
I WAS VERY HAPPY.
DID IT GO
BEYOND A KISS?
NO.
I MEAN, SHE'S EASTERN EUROPEAN.
SHE'S COLD.
THAT'S HOW WOMEN OVER THERE ARE.
‐YES. YES.
‐WOMEN IN UKRAINE ARE COLD.
‐THEY ARE.
‐MY MOM IS FROM CZECH REPUBLIC.
AND SHE MARRIED MY DAD
FOR A GREEN CARD IN THE '80s
WHEN CZECH REPUBLIC
WAS PART OF THE SOVIET UNION.
AND, YOU KNOW,
A PART OF ME BELIEVES
THAT IF LANA WANTS
TO COME OVER HERE,
IF SHE REALLY WANTS A GREEN CARD
AND TO END UP MARRIED,
SHE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN.
I THINK DAVID IS IN DENIAL
BECAUSE SEVEN YEARS
IS A LONG TIME.
I MEAN, I THOUGHT SEVEN MONTHS
FOR ME WAS LONG,
BUT SEVEN YEARS?
NO WAY.
HE'S DEFINITELY IN DENIAL.
YOU'RE BEING SCAMMED AND ‐‐
IT'S TIME TO GET ED
OUT OF HERE.
HE HAS NO IDEA.
ED HAS NO IDEA.
YOU GOT SCREWED.
I'M SORRY.
GET OUT OF HERE.
GET OUT OF HERE.
CALM DOWN
FOR JUST A SECOND.
JUST LET THE DUDE DO WHAT
HE WANTS TO DO, YOU KNOW?
NOTHING WE SAY HERE TODAY
IS GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING.
WHAT IS THE STATUS
OF YOUR RELATIONSHIP TODAY?
TODAY, I WOULD SAY
WE'RE NOT TOGETHER.
‐ARE YOU ENGAGED OR NOT?
‐YES.
I'M SO CONFUSED.
SHE TOLD ME A COUPLE WEEKS AGO
THAT ALL SHE WANTED
WAS A WHITE PICKET FENCE
AND A SIMPLE LIFE WITH ME
AND TRAVELING IN THE RV.
SHE LOVES THAT IDEA.
BUT RIGHT NOW, TODAY,
I THINK WE'RE NOT TOGETHER.
THAT'S NOT SAYING THAT WE WON'T
BE TOGETHER IN THE FUTURE,
BUT WE'RE NOT TOGETHER.
DAVID, I WISH YOU
THE VERY, VERY BEST.
‐THANK YOU.
‐THAT IS IT FOR
THE COUPLES TELL ALL."
THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR COUPLES
FOR OPENING UP
AND SHARING THEIR STORIES.
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