Touching Evil (1997–1999): Season 1, Episode 2 - Through the Clouds: Part 2 - full transcript
[speaking german]
Hello?
You were right, there's
nothing coming out.
You sure?
What about the other
door inside the house?
[german]?
Yeah, [german].
No, it's completely air tight.
Can you find out when
the garbage was modified?
We're checking that.
How's Cyril?
Cyril Golding?
He's very poorly.
He gave us a couple
of frights in the night.
He can hardly breathe.
You'll get nothing out of him.
He was that poorly?
I've been checking on Hinks
for a criminal record, nothing.
Then I contacted the Regional
Force at Tunbridge Wells.
Again, nothing criminal, but
his name came up attached
to this case as a witness.
Again?
Yeah, but he was only
11 when it happened.
I could see him under the
ice, but I couldn't break it.
He was looking at me, and
I couldn't get to him.
He just went back under, a
and I never saw him again.
Ronald Hinks, December 1954.
Is there any more of this?
The newspaper
closed down in '55.
Find the parents
of the dead lad.
Track down the reporter, and
try and get hold of a copy
of the coroner's report.
What?
I have been up all night.
I can do with some sleep.
Fine.
Get Rivers to drive,
kip in the car.
You all right?
Fine.
Milk.
There's a word.
Tossed.
And I'll now have
the coffee, please.
I couldn't breathe.
There's nowhere to go.
- Is it dark or light?
It's dark.
Can you see me there?
I'm seeing it
through the clouds.
I don't like the people
you're working with.
That's because
you don't know them.
Do you want to?
No.
He's watching them.
Your friends, he can see them.
That's impossible, Cyril.
We've searched his house.
We're watching every
bloody move he makes.
He can see them.
He's watching them.
We go him?
Inspector [inaudible]...
you in the garage?
Yes?
CREEGAN: Can anyone see in
the garage from outside?
There's no view
in from the outside.
The door to the house,
there's no window in it?
No, there's no window.
CREEGAN: Has there ever
been a window there?
Yes, there is a window.
Surveillance is showing that
the only journeys he makes are
to work 0900 and from work
1730, and he stops [inaudible]
Sainsbury's Way, he buys
his food by the day,
and a local newsagents
where he buys his paper.
He never buys a paper in the
morning, always at night.
Now, we've got the
city engineers going
through any archive
plans to find any bolt
holes close to Hinks's house.
We've interviewed the
mother of an old friend
of Hinks, Peter Weller.
They went to school together,
best of mates, Weller
fell through the ice from a
boating lake, December, 1954.
Hinks was there
when it happened.
Mrs. Weller was far from
happy talking about Hinks.
She still blames him
for her son's death.
If Ronald Hanks had
to watch his friend die
at the age of 11, it's feasible
that he or anyone could
displace that
experience into a need
to be with children,
wanting back
the kind of friendship he lost.
And then he kills them.
Possibly.
Am I the only one
with reservations
about this suspect?
No.
What kind of reservations?
Oh, that we're putting
everything we've got into one
suspect.
25 ex-offenders with form
for child related crimes were
viewed by South Hart's
police, cross-examined
by us and [inaudible].
We're sticking with
Hinks because he's
the only one moving us on.
How?
All we've proved is that
Hinks doesn't go anywhere.
He doesn't do anything.
All we know from surveillance
is that he isn't making
contact with the victims.
I don't understand how we can
treat him as the only suspect
without a single scrap
of evidence, Creegan.
I share that feeling.
Anybody else?
Whoa.
We only got onto Hinks
because his Volvo was parked
near the scene of the crime.
We only got onto the
victims in Stuttgart
once we started checking Hinks.
Nobody invented that connection.
But we're under
the microscope here,
and I'm sensing that people are
losing their footing slightly.
I think we need to go back over
the original list of suspects
and absolutely
convince ourselves
that we're not misfiring.
Sir, I think that's just
wasting time we haven't got.
Half an hour ago, I was
made aware the parents
of Eddie Franklin
had gone to the press
about our performance.
I've been called to a meeting at
the home office this afternoon.
I thought there was a
news blackout on this?
It's not news.
It's no news, which as you well
know, the press seem to prefer.
Shit.
I'm on this with DI Kreitman.
This is a waste of time.
Well, the faster we waste
it, the faster we can get on.
OK.
The parents of the three
abducted children, Jerry
Casper, Steven Lorde,
and Eddie Franklin,
have criticized the way the
police are handling the case.
The OSC, Organized and
Serial Crimes Unit,
were called into
supervise the case,
are accused of being too
secretive by one mother.
We've been told nothing.
My son's been kidnapped, and
he's out there with somebody
who shouldn't have him.
I don't know what
they're doing about it.
The man in charge of the
OSC, Commander Steven Enwright
make the following statement.
Any clues, any information,
no matter how unimportant
they think it may be, could
be crucial in the resolution
of this case.
Come on.
Events, people, faces,
vehicles, anything that
may have happened to those boys
prior to their disappearance,
please contact us.
Have you fainted since
you started treatment?
No, I haven't.
Have you been
suspected of any offense
since you started treatment.
No.
Well, yes, once.
Mrs. Weller?
Yes?
DI Creegan.
You know one of my officers
has tried making contact?
He has, and it's
not for discussion.
Look.
I think Ronald Hinks was
responsible for the abduction
of three children.
What do you think, Mrs. Weller?
Hello, again.
I racked my brains following
the television broadcast,
and well, it worked.
I've remembered something else.
Do you want to follow me?
You don't think it
was an accident, do you?
No.
It wasn't an accident.
It was the latest freeze
over we'd ever had.
It was meant to
be nearly spring.
The lake glazed over, but
it wasn't really thick
enough to carry a bird.
So how can you blame him?
He didn't call for help.
And that doesn't
count as shock?
He told the police
he screamed for help.
He just watched.
He told them he came
knocking at our door,
which backed down to the lake
and couldn't get a reply.
I was in the kitchen
with the door open
when he said he was
hammering on it.
Even his own mother
didn't believe
him when he started crying.
His father begged me to let
him come to the funeral,
but there was no way on God's
earth I wanted him there.
Hello, we need to speak
to somebody in charge
of the kidnapping case.
Now.
Which park?
Greenwich Park.
When?
Wednesday, December 4th.
When?
9 o'clock, which is, as
you already got on file,
when I told you I was there.
This man, this scruffy man--
The same man you saw the day
Jerry Casper was kidnapped.
That's right.
You just happened to be there
when two kids were abducted
in separate circumstances.
I'm saying, I thought the same
man was also in both locations.
What I'm further suggesting
is because he was carrying two
large shopping bags
brimming with food,
he must live close
by there, mustn't he?
So we put 50 officers on
a ground search of the area,
and we might eventually
come up with something
vaguely resembling the
description you gave us.
I'm sorry, I thought
I was being helpful.
I'll bet you did.
Sir, we've got something.
This is Richard Price
and Gavin Broby,
engineers with a TV crew.
They were testing a satellite
link near Hinks's house
when they picked this up.
Is it them?
That is definitely
Jerry Casper.
And that's what Steven Lorde was
wearing when he went missing.
That's the bit I
recognize from the news.
DI Taylor's got our
man in interview one.
He's volunteering new
information on the man
he thinks was responsible.
Where's Hinks?
Took him out the
back and beat him up.
You what?
I sent him home.
DI Creegan,
surveillance unit one.
Get Hinks now.
I've just [inaudible].
What's happened?
In his face, now get him.
We found the kids.
- Alive?
For now.
Where?
We're stopped on the
wrong side of [inaudible]
crossing on Spring Road.
You'll have to take him.
- We're on the way back to base.
- I thought you taking him?
Unit three, name yourself.
Sergeant Slater, 2142.
I'm gonna pull your
bollocks off when I see you.
Rivers, where are you?
RIVERS: Back roads,
almost Hinks's house.
Unit two?
Get onto Jubilee Road, make
sure Hinks can't double back.
What have I done?
I don't know what I'm
supposed to have done.
Because you're
a lying bastard.
This is where you
were yesterday, huh?
Yeah, this is roughly
where we were, yeah.
But I mean, there's
no way of telling
where we picked the signal up.
- You didn't see it at the time?
- No.
I only noticed when we were
going through the tapes
at the office.
I remember a flicker
of interference
but that's all it was.
Hold on.
I've got something.
There it is.
They're not moving.
They're not moving.
Creegan!
Stop him!
Creegan!
Where are they,
you evil bastard?
Please, Ronald, please?
Hey, we've got some
numbers from the council,
202, 212, 437, and 702,
and they're still checking.
Ask if there's any occupied
flats with absent tenants.
I have.
702 is the only one.
Eddie?
- Steven?
- Jerry?
Steven?
Jerry?
Steve!
Right.
We drag in another 100 officers.
We go house to house again.
I want every flat searched.
That's gonna take days
to get that many warrants.
We don't get warrants.
We knock on the door, soon
as they open it, you're in.
No, we're now.
We ask, tell them as
little as possible.
Right?
Yes.
Move.
I'll talk to Hinks.
Can't have much left
to hang on to now.
We know you know
where they are.
Are they alive?
If you give them up, and
you help us get to them,
it works in your favor
on your sentence.
And you know perfectly well
you'll got unconditional life,
but where you serve it, can
be a matter for discretion.
His lawyer's here.
I hope you rot.
Can I do the interview?
- You don't touch him.
- I won't touch him.
If you're going to
scare him, you make
sure your ass is on that chair.
Promise me, Creegan.
Time is 501.
This is DI Dave Creegan
accompanied by DI Susan Taylor.
We're interviewing
Professor Ronald Hinks,
and he's accompanied by
his Brief Peter Lister.
Ronald, did you abduct
Jerry Casper, Steven Lorde,
and Eddie Franklin on
the 26, 30th of November,
and the 4th of December?
No.
You've no knowledge
of their whereabouts?
No.
And you had nothing to do
with the murders of Mark Fulper
and Christian Mann
in February 1994?
I did not.
Thanks.
You can go.
Interview terminated 502.
What's going on?
BRIEF PETER LISTER: What
the bloody hell is going on?
Is this some kind of joke?
Creegan?
Creegan!
If you could have proved
anything, you wouldn't be here.
If you'd been clever,
I'd never been here at all.
You can't threaten
me, Creegan.
No?
What makes you so special?
You've done enough damage.
I'm just laughing at something
one of our psychologists said.
You're trespassing.
If you don't get
out of my house now,
I'm within my rights
to set the dog on you.
Henry.
Good boy.
Good boy.
Good boy.
Yeah, we keep shrinks
on the payroll
to speculate on the
abstract mind, Professor.
Imagine having a job like that?
I want to make a phone call.
Fine.
You're getting ready
for work thinking up
three abstract minds
to get sorted today.
And if I do it by 5:00,
I can get to Sainsbury's.
It's a scream, isn't it?
It's like your job,
biogenetic engineering.
That's all thunderbirds to me.
Go on, talk me through it.
You fed the dog,
you're having a shave,
it's a precision lifestyle,
but what are you thinking?
I need to get in earlier.
I've got an ear to grow
on the back of that rat.
Well, don't forget to reduce
human life to a single molecule
at least once today.
What shape's the rest
of the world in when you
can pull all that off, Ronald?
Are you up there somewhere?
Where the special people live?
The law says you've
no right to be here.
You're breaking the rules.
Nobody knows I'm here, Ron.
They all think I've gone home
sulking because we lost you.
And you couldn't prove I was
here even if you did your best.
What do you spend your money on?
Your salary goes
into your account,
and you take out 500
quid a week in cash.
What are you buying
these days, Ron?
Books.
Of course, he's an academic.
Books.
You got a Visa
card, Access card,
and you've got a
Diner's card, but you
buy your books with cash.
You spend as much on books
as I do on child maintenance.
Did I tell you I had kids?
I'm not interested in your--
Two.
Girls.
For 500 quid a week, I
keep two houses going.
Where is your second house?
I beg your pardon?
Well, you've no garage here,
and there's no kids here.
They're somewhere, Ronald.
Look, you're in
a lot of trouble.
Please, let me know.
This is--
This is abduction.
This is what being held against
your will actually feels like,
and you'll be happy to
know I'm not a violent man.
You are going nowhere.
I want Eddie Franklin, Jerry
Casper, and Steven Lorde.
Now.
No wires.
And there's no witnesses.
Talk to me.
Hi I'm DI Taylor,
can I speak to Dave?
He's not here.
Well, did he say
what time he'd be back?
Well, he didn't, no.
He doesn't live here, you know?
Can I see your warrant card?
We're divorced.
He's in a flat
down Stamford Road.
I'm sorry, I
should have checked.
You OK?
Yes, sorry to
have bothered you.
If he calls, I'll tell
him you're looking for him.
You're getting ready for work.
You're having a shave.
What are you thinking?
This person dies, or that
person suffers, it's down to me?
Or the world looks awful?
And you've done
nothing to protect it,
when your job is by
definition protection.
Is that on your conscience?
I've learned to
avoid that trap.
Then you're kidding yourself.
The hallmarks of your job and
mine are virtually identical.
We learn by failure.
We're both at the
mercy of evidence.
Mark Fulper and Christian
Mann died because you failed?
No.
You were 11 when
your best mate died.
When you watched him die.
You could have helped
him, couldn't you?
You were less than two minutes
walk from the nearest house,
but you didn't walk.
You didn't run.
Nobody heard you screaming.
I bet you can't
even remember why
you killed your best
friend, just that you could,
so you did.
And you got away with it.
And that was your first taste
of a totally unique power
that nobody but people
like you really want.
Do they live?
Do they die?
If these people died, surely
they died because you failed.
Your people.
Because nobody stopped you?
Oh, come on, Ron,
you're a big lad.
If you didn't know
that was wrong,
how come I'm here
having to play games?
Your game.
In your position,
I'd be very angry
if I was involved in a game
I didn't know the rules of.
Listen to me, you freak,
I don't want to hear
why people think you did it.
They'll call you
all sorts in court,
social this, emotionally psycho
that, but you're not, Ronald.
You're as sane now as you
were the day you were born.
You were born a sick,
twisted bastard.
Some people are.
That's all there is to it.
Where's the pride in winning a
game you wrote the rules for?
Your biggest
achievement in 50 years
is over powering children.
How in God's name could a
normal person be proud of that?
I'm not in charge
of this game.
Voices?
You're going to go
for voices in court?
Screw yourself, Hinks,
you've not a chance.
The only voices
you'll be hearing
are the parents wanting
you dead, you sick,
twisted bastard.
I don't think
you're in a position
to judge anyone objectively.
10 minutes ago, you were telling
me you weren't a violent man.
[dog barking]
Henry!
Henry!
Henry, good boy.
Here, boy.
Come here.
Henry!
Come here.
Henry!
Come on, Henry, you show me.
Steven?
Eddie?
Eddie?
(SINGING) Green little
men in a flying saucer
flew around the world one day.
He looked left and right,
he didn't like the sight,
so one man flew away.
Zoom.
Two little men in
a flying saucer.
Is that all you
remember, Eddie?
Didn't see anything?
Didn't hear anything?
Just a sharp pain, like
an injection in my leg.
You said he pulled your hair.
Not then.
I wasn't really awake.
My hair was being pulled, not
real pulled, like if you know,
you put sealing tape
on and rip it off?
Yeah?
Yeah.
I bet that felt really weird?
Yeah.
Could you see who
was doing that, Eddie?
If I showed you some
pictures do you think you
might recognize one of them?
If you really concentrate.
No.
(SINGING) He
looked left and right
but he didn't like the sight.
One little man flew away.
Zoom.
He is guilty.
The only way we knew about
Mark Fulper and Christian Mann
was because of the
calling cards, the shoes.
The only way we found victims
was because of Ronald Hinks's
work records, and the only
reason we knew about him
was because his car was in--
his very distinctive bloody car
was at [inaudible] abducted.
Circumstantial.
His dog.
His own bloody dog led us to
the last three victims, sir.
Look, Hinks has more
grounds for harassment
than we have for conviction.
A dog knew exactly
where it was going.
It was following
its owner's scent.
With the greatest
respect, we can't
put a dog in the witness
box, and if we could,
it's circumstantial.
[inaudible] bloody
washes, to you know that?
Creegan.
You couldn't make shit
stuck to a bunion, you tosser.
Creegan, that's
not how we do this.
Just sit down.
Sit down!
Continue.
(SINGING) He looked
left and right,
and quite liked the sight.
[door opening]
(SINGING) Thought
he might stay.
I'm sorry, it's so late.
I, uh, I didn't know
where else to go.
I'm glad you came here.
Ta, Barry.
If it wasn't past
closing, I'd be
out buying you champagne, Dave.
Cheers.
Can I stay?
Sure.
I'll make the sofa up.
Well done.
You're a hero.
Again.
You're not suggesting
that Kessler will sustain
defense for a freak like Hinks?
He's a geneticist.
I know they're not 10 a penny,
but he can't be that gifted.
Kessler's worth billions.
If Hinks goes down,
their name goes with it.
They'll spend what they need
to represent his innocence.
If they win, their
loyalty pays off.
If they lose, they're sunk.
They will not lose.
You're giving us
nothing to fight with.
They've applied for the
release of his passport.
It's just going to be
back to square one as far
as Hinks is concerned.
He will do it again.
The parents of three
abducted children
are calling their
rescue a miracle,
and they're praising the
policeman who saved them.
They say Detective
Inspector David Creegan
from the Organized
and Serial Crimes Unit
should receive a commendation.
We'd all just like to
say thank you for bringing
our kids back safe and sound.
The police seemed to
be no closer to charging
anyone with the offense.
Hey, are you all right?
Dave?
[engine starting]
CREEGAN'S VOICEMAIL: Hi.
Sorry, I'm not in,
but if you'll leave
your name, number,
and time you called,
I'll get back to you
as soon as I can.
[beep]
Creegan, just ring
me, you selfish bastard.
[classical music]
[wind chimes tinkling]
Hello?
You were right, there's
nothing coming out.
You sure?
What about the other
door inside the house?
[german]?
Yeah, [german].
No, it's completely air tight.
Can you find out when
the garbage was modified?
We're checking that.
How's Cyril?
Cyril Golding?
He's very poorly.
He gave us a couple
of frights in the night.
He can hardly breathe.
You'll get nothing out of him.
He was that poorly?
I've been checking on Hinks
for a criminal record, nothing.
Then I contacted the Regional
Force at Tunbridge Wells.
Again, nothing criminal, but
his name came up attached
to this case as a witness.
Again?
Yeah, but he was only
11 when it happened.
I could see him under the
ice, but I couldn't break it.
He was looking at me, and
I couldn't get to him.
He just went back under, a
and I never saw him again.
Ronald Hinks, December 1954.
Is there any more of this?
The newspaper
closed down in '55.
Find the parents
of the dead lad.
Track down the reporter, and
try and get hold of a copy
of the coroner's report.
What?
I have been up all night.
I can do with some sleep.
Fine.
Get Rivers to drive,
kip in the car.
You all right?
Fine.
Milk.
There's a word.
Tossed.
And I'll now have
the coffee, please.
I couldn't breathe.
There's nowhere to go.
- Is it dark or light?
It's dark.
Can you see me there?
I'm seeing it
through the clouds.
I don't like the people
you're working with.
That's because
you don't know them.
Do you want to?
No.
He's watching them.
Your friends, he can see them.
That's impossible, Cyril.
We've searched his house.
We're watching every
bloody move he makes.
He can see them.
He's watching them.
We go him?
Inspector [inaudible]...
you in the garage?
Yes?
CREEGAN: Can anyone see in
the garage from outside?
There's no view
in from the outside.
The door to the house,
there's no window in it?
No, there's no window.
CREEGAN: Has there ever
been a window there?
Yes, there is a window.
Surveillance is showing that
the only journeys he makes are
to work 0900 and from work
1730, and he stops [inaudible]
Sainsbury's Way, he buys
his food by the day,
and a local newsagents
where he buys his paper.
He never buys a paper in the
morning, always at night.
Now, we've got the
city engineers going
through any archive
plans to find any bolt
holes close to Hinks's house.
We've interviewed the
mother of an old friend
of Hinks, Peter Weller.
They went to school together,
best of mates, Weller
fell through the ice from a
boating lake, December, 1954.
Hinks was there
when it happened.
Mrs. Weller was far from
happy talking about Hinks.
She still blames him
for her son's death.
If Ronald Hanks had
to watch his friend die
at the age of 11, it's feasible
that he or anyone could
displace that
experience into a need
to be with children,
wanting back
the kind of friendship he lost.
And then he kills them.
Possibly.
Am I the only one
with reservations
about this suspect?
No.
What kind of reservations?
Oh, that we're putting
everything we've got into one
suspect.
25 ex-offenders with form
for child related crimes were
viewed by South Hart's
police, cross-examined
by us and [inaudible].
We're sticking with
Hinks because he's
the only one moving us on.
How?
All we've proved is that
Hinks doesn't go anywhere.
He doesn't do anything.
All we know from surveillance
is that he isn't making
contact with the victims.
I don't understand how we can
treat him as the only suspect
without a single scrap
of evidence, Creegan.
I share that feeling.
Anybody else?
Whoa.
We only got onto Hinks
because his Volvo was parked
near the scene of the crime.
We only got onto the
victims in Stuttgart
once we started checking Hinks.
Nobody invented that connection.
But we're under
the microscope here,
and I'm sensing that people are
losing their footing slightly.
I think we need to go back over
the original list of suspects
and absolutely
convince ourselves
that we're not misfiring.
Sir, I think that's just
wasting time we haven't got.
Half an hour ago, I was
made aware the parents
of Eddie Franklin
had gone to the press
about our performance.
I've been called to a meeting at
the home office this afternoon.
I thought there was a
news blackout on this?
It's not news.
It's no news, which as you well
know, the press seem to prefer.
Shit.
I'm on this with DI Kreitman.
This is a waste of time.
Well, the faster we waste
it, the faster we can get on.
OK.
The parents of the three
abducted children, Jerry
Casper, Steven Lorde,
and Eddie Franklin,
have criticized the way the
police are handling the case.
The OSC, Organized and
Serial Crimes Unit,
were called into
supervise the case,
are accused of being too
secretive by one mother.
We've been told nothing.
My son's been kidnapped, and
he's out there with somebody
who shouldn't have him.
I don't know what
they're doing about it.
The man in charge of the
OSC, Commander Steven Enwright
make the following statement.
Any clues, any information,
no matter how unimportant
they think it may be, could
be crucial in the resolution
of this case.
Come on.
Events, people, faces,
vehicles, anything that
may have happened to those boys
prior to their disappearance,
please contact us.
Have you fainted since
you started treatment?
No, I haven't.
Have you been
suspected of any offense
since you started treatment.
No.
Well, yes, once.
Mrs. Weller?
Yes?
DI Creegan.
You know one of my officers
has tried making contact?
He has, and it's
not for discussion.
Look.
I think Ronald Hinks was
responsible for the abduction
of three children.
What do you think, Mrs. Weller?
Hello, again.
I racked my brains following
the television broadcast,
and well, it worked.
I've remembered something else.
Do you want to follow me?
You don't think it
was an accident, do you?
No.
It wasn't an accident.
It was the latest freeze
over we'd ever had.
It was meant to
be nearly spring.
The lake glazed over, but
it wasn't really thick
enough to carry a bird.
So how can you blame him?
He didn't call for help.
And that doesn't
count as shock?
He told the police
he screamed for help.
He just watched.
He told them he came
knocking at our door,
which backed down to the lake
and couldn't get a reply.
I was in the kitchen
with the door open
when he said he was
hammering on it.
Even his own mother
didn't believe
him when he started crying.
His father begged me to let
him come to the funeral,
but there was no way on God's
earth I wanted him there.
Hello, we need to speak
to somebody in charge
of the kidnapping case.
Now.
Which park?
Greenwich Park.
When?
Wednesday, December 4th.
When?
9 o'clock, which is, as
you already got on file,
when I told you I was there.
This man, this scruffy man--
The same man you saw the day
Jerry Casper was kidnapped.
That's right.
You just happened to be there
when two kids were abducted
in separate circumstances.
I'm saying, I thought the same
man was also in both locations.
What I'm further suggesting
is because he was carrying two
large shopping bags
brimming with food,
he must live close
by there, mustn't he?
So we put 50 officers on
a ground search of the area,
and we might eventually
come up with something
vaguely resembling the
description you gave us.
I'm sorry, I thought
I was being helpful.
I'll bet you did.
Sir, we've got something.
This is Richard Price
and Gavin Broby,
engineers with a TV crew.
They were testing a satellite
link near Hinks's house
when they picked this up.
Is it them?
That is definitely
Jerry Casper.
And that's what Steven Lorde was
wearing when he went missing.
That's the bit I
recognize from the news.
DI Taylor's got our
man in interview one.
He's volunteering new
information on the man
he thinks was responsible.
Where's Hinks?
Took him out the
back and beat him up.
You what?
I sent him home.
DI Creegan,
surveillance unit one.
Get Hinks now.
I've just [inaudible].
What's happened?
In his face, now get him.
We found the kids.
- Alive?
For now.
Where?
We're stopped on the
wrong side of [inaudible]
crossing on Spring Road.
You'll have to take him.
- We're on the way back to base.
- I thought you taking him?
Unit three, name yourself.
Sergeant Slater, 2142.
I'm gonna pull your
bollocks off when I see you.
Rivers, where are you?
RIVERS: Back roads,
almost Hinks's house.
Unit two?
Get onto Jubilee Road, make
sure Hinks can't double back.
What have I done?
I don't know what I'm
supposed to have done.
Because you're
a lying bastard.
This is where you
were yesterday, huh?
Yeah, this is roughly
where we were, yeah.
But I mean, there's
no way of telling
where we picked the signal up.
- You didn't see it at the time?
- No.
I only noticed when we were
going through the tapes
at the office.
I remember a flicker
of interference
but that's all it was.
Hold on.
I've got something.
There it is.
They're not moving.
They're not moving.
Creegan!
Stop him!
Creegan!
Where are they,
you evil bastard?
Please, Ronald, please?
Hey, we've got some
numbers from the council,
202, 212, 437, and 702,
and they're still checking.
Ask if there's any occupied
flats with absent tenants.
I have.
702 is the only one.
Eddie?
- Steven?
- Jerry?
Steven?
Jerry?
Steve!
Right.
We drag in another 100 officers.
We go house to house again.
I want every flat searched.
That's gonna take days
to get that many warrants.
We don't get warrants.
We knock on the door, soon
as they open it, you're in.
No, we're now.
We ask, tell them as
little as possible.
Right?
Yes.
Move.
I'll talk to Hinks.
Can't have much left
to hang on to now.
We know you know
where they are.
Are they alive?
If you give them up, and
you help us get to them,
it works in your favor
on your sentence.
And you know perfectly well
you'll got unconditional life,
but where you serve it, can
be a matter for discretion.
His lawyer's here.
I hope you rot.
Can I do the interview?
- You don't touch him.
- I won't touch him.
If you're going to
scare him, you make
sure your ass is on that chair.
Promise me, Creegan.
Time is 501.
This is DI Dave Creegan
accompanied by DI Susan Taylor.
We're interviewing
Professor Ronald Hinks,
and he's accompanied by
his Brief Peter Lister.
Ronald, did you abduct
Jerry Casper, Steven Lorde,
and Eddie Franklin on
the 26, 30th of November,
and the 4th of December?
No.
You've no knowledge
of their whereabouts?
No.
And you had nothing to do
with the murders of Mark Fulper
and Christian Mann
in February 1994?
I did not.
Thanks.
You can go.
Interview terminated 502.
What's going on?
BRIEF PETER LISTER: What
the bloody hell is going on?
Is this some kind of joke?
Creegan?
Creegan!
If you could have proved
anything, you wouldn't be here.
If you'd been clever,
I'd never been here at all.
You can't threaten
me, Creegan.
No?
What makes you so special?
You've done enough damage.
I'm just laughing at something
one of our psychologists said.
You're trespassing.
If you don't get
out of my house now,
I'm within my rights
to set the dog on you.
Henry.
Good boy.
Good boy.
Good boy.
Yeah, we keep shrinks
on the payroll
to speculate on the
abstract mind, Professor.
Imagine having a job like that?
I want to make a phone call.
Fine.
You're getting ready
for work thinking up
three abstract minds
to get sorted today.
And if I do it by 5:00,
I can get to Sainsbury's.
It's a scream, isn't it?
It's like your job,
biogenetic engineering.
That's all thunderbirds to me.
Go on, talk me through it.
You fed the dog,
you're having a shave,
it's a precision lifestyle,
but what are you thinking?
I need to get in earlier.
I've got an ear to grow
on the back of that rat.
Well, don't forget to reduce
human life to a single molecule
at least once today.
What shape's the rest
of the world in when you
can pull all that off, Ronald?
Are you up there somewhere?
Where the special people live?
The law says you've
no right to be here.
You're breaking the rules.
Nobody knows I'm here, Ron.
They all think I've gone home
sulking because we lost you.
And you couldn't prove I was
here even if you did your best.
What do you spend your money on?
Your salary goes
into your account,
and you take out 500
quid a week in cash.
What are you buying
these days, Ron?
Books.
Of course, he's an academic.
Books.
You got a Visa
card, Access card,
and you've got a
Diner's card, but you
buy your books with cash.
You spend as much on books
as I do on child maintenance.
Did I tell you I had kids?
I'm not interested in your--
Two.
Girls.
For 500 quid a week, I
keep two houses going.
Where is your second house?
I beg your pardon?
Well, you've no garage here,
and there's no kids here.
They're somewhere, Ronald.
Look, you're in
a lot of trouble.
Please, let me know.
This is--
This is abduction.
This is what being held against
your will actually feels like,
and you'll be happy to
know I'm not a violent man.
You are going nowhere.
I want Eddie Franklin, Jerry
Casper, and Steven Lorde.
Now.
No wires.
And there's no witnesses.
Talk to me.
Hi I'm DI Taylor,
can I speak to Dave?
He's not here.
Well, did he say
what time he'd be back?
Well, he didn't, no.
He doesn't live here, you know?
Can I see your warrant card?
We're divorced.
He's in a flat
down Stamford Road.
I'm sorry, I
should have checked.
You OK?
Yes, sorry to
have bothered you.
If he calls, I'll tell
him you're looking for him.
You're getting ready for work.
You're having a shave.
What are you thinking?
This person dies, or that
person suffers, it's down to me?
Or the world looks awful?
And you've done
nothing to protect it,
when your job is by
definition protection.
Is that on your conscience?
I've learned to
avoid that trap.
Then you're kidding yourself.
The hallmarks of your job and
mine are virtually identical.
We learn by failure.
We're both at the
mercy of evidence.
Mark Fulper and Christian
Mann died because you failed?
No.
You were 11 when
your best mate died.
When you watched him die.
You could have helped
him, couldn't you?
You were less than two minutes
walk from the nearest house,
but you didn't walk.
You didn't run.
Nobody heard you screaming.
I bet you can't
even remember why
you killed your best
friend, just that you could,
so you did.
And you got away with it.
And that was your first taste
of a totally unique power
that nobody but people
like you really want.
Do they live?
Do they die?
If these people died, surely
they died because you failed.
Your people.
Because nobody stopped you?
Oh, come on, Ron,
you're a big lad.
If you didn't know
that was wrong,
how come I'm here
having to play games?
Your game.
In your position,
I'd be very angry
if I was involved in a game
I didn't know the rules of.
Listen to me, you freak,
I don't want to hear
why people think you did it.
They'll call you
all sorts in court,
social this, emotionally psycho
that, but you're not, Ronald.
You're as sane now as you
were the day you were born.
You were born a sick,
twisted bastard.
Some people are.
That's all there is to it.
Where's the pride in winning a
game you wrote the rules for?
Your biggest
achievement in 50 years
is over powering children.
How in God's name could a
normal person be proud of that?
I'm not in charge
of this game.
Voices?
You're going to go
for voices in court?
Screw yourself, Hinks,
you've not a chance.
The only voices
you'll be hearing
are the parents wanting
you dead, you sick,
twisted bastard.
I don't think
you're in a position
to judge anyone objectively.
10 minutes ago, you were telling
me you weren't a violent man.
[dog barking]
Henry!
Henry!
Henry, good boy.
Here, boy.
Come here.
Henry!
Come here.
Henry!
Come on, Henry, you show me.
Steven?
Eddie?
Eddie?
(SINGING) Green little
men in a flying saucer
flew around the world one day.
He looked left and right,
he didn't like the sight,
so one man flew away.
Zoom.
Two little men in
a flying saucer.
Is that all you
remember, Eddie?
Didn't see anything?
Didn't hear anything?
Just a sharp pain, like
an injection in my leg.
You said he pulled your hair.
Not then.
I wasn't really awake.
My hair was being pulled, not
real pulled, like if you know,
you put sealing tape
on and rip it off?
Yeah?
Yeah.
I bet that felt really weird?
Yeah.
Could you see who
was doing that, Eddie?
If I showed you some
pictures do you think you
might recognize one of them?
If you really concentrate.
No.
(SINGING) He
looked left and right
but he didn't like the sight.
One little man flew away.
Zoom.
He is guilty.
The only way we knew about
Mark Fulper and Christian Mann
was because of the
calling cards, the shoes.
The only way we found victims
was because of Ronald Hinks's
work records, and the only
reason we knew about him
was because his car was in--
his very distinctive bloody car
was at [inaudible] abducted.
Circumstantial.
His dog.
His own bloody dog led us to
the last three victims, sir.
Look, Hinks has more
grounds for harassment
than we have for conviction.
A dog knew exactly
where it was going.
It was following
its owner's scent.
With the greatest
respect, we can't
put a dog in the witness
box, and if we could,
it's circumstantial.
[inaudible] bloody
washes, to you know that?
Creegan.
You couldn't make shit
stuck to a bunion, you tosser.
Creegan, that's
not how we do this.
Just sit down.
Sit down!
Continue.
(SINGING) He looked
left and right,
and quite liked the sight.
[door opening]
(SINGING) Thought
he might stay.
I'm sorry, it's so late.
I, uh, I didn't know
where else to go.
I'm glad you came here.
Ta, Barry.
If it wasn't past
closing, I'd be
out buying you champagne, Dave.
Cheers.
Can I stay?
Sure.
I'll make the sofa up.
Well done.
You're a hero.
Again.
You're not suggesting
that Kessler will sustain
defense for a freak like Hinks?
He's a geneticist.
I know they're not 10 a penny,
but he can't be that gifted.
Kessler's worth billions.
If Hinks goes down,
their name goes with it.
They'll spend what they need
to represent his innocence.
If they win, their
loyalty pays off.
If they lose, they're sunk.
They will not lose.
You're giving us
nothing to fight with.
They've applied for the
release of his passport.
It's just going to be
back to square one as far
as Hinks is concerned.
He will do it again.
The parents of three
abducted children
are calling their
rescue a miracle,
and they're praising the
policeman who saved them.
They say Detective
Inspector David Creegan
from the Organized
and Serial Crimes Unit
should receive a commendation.
We'd all just like to
say thank you for bringing
our kids back safe and sound.
The police seemed to
be no closer to charging
anyone with the offense.
Hey, are you all right?
Dave?
[engine starting]
CREEGAN'S VOICEMAIL: Hi.
Sorry, I'm not in,
but if you'll leave
your name, number,
and time you called,
I'll get back to you
as soon as I can.
[beep]
Creegan, just ring
me, you selfish bastard.
[classical music]
[wind chimes tinkling]