The Lørenskog Disappearance (2021): Season 1, Episode 4 - Episode #1.4 - full transcript
THIS IS A DRAMA SERIES
BASED ON REAL EVENTS.
VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT THE OPINIONS
OF THE INDIVIDUALS FEATURED.
SOME NAMES, INCIDENTS AND LOCATIONS,
AND DIALOGUE
HAVE BEEN FICTIONALIZED
FOR DRAMATIC PURPOSES.
BIRTHDAY CARD REVEALS
TROUBLED MARRIAGE
Mmm.
- Draniki is really good.
- Uh-huh.
Papa would be proud of you.
- Remember when babushka made it?
- Yeah.
We should really cook Belarusian food
every weekend.
Yeah, I'd love to. As long as you make it.
Auntie? Aunt Aleks?
Mmm. Hi.
Look, Auntie. Look.
Didn't he turn out nice?
Wow, isn't this good. Did you draw this?
- Yeah.
- You're so clever.
I saw your name on that article.
Must be exciting in the crime department.
Well, the truth is, I didn't write that.
They put my name on there
'cause I work in editorial.
Actually, I've been trying to get us
to cover the story
from other angles as well,
so we're not just parroting the police.
But this is the Norwegian police.
What do you mean?
There's a reason they arrested this guy.
They'd never have arrested him
if they didn't have something on him.
What's the problem?
What? Don't you remember
what they did to Papa?
You know what they said:
"Yuri Zaretski is a criminal.
Undermining Belarus.
Betraying our country.
He's taking money from America."
But this isn't Belarus.
- Have you forgotten what they did to Papa?
- No, of course I haven't.
But we live in Norway now.
The police work differently here.
Besides, wasn't that why they hired you
in the crime department...
because they wanted a journalist
who was brave enough to walk her own path?
So what?
So the way you are is how
they want you to be.
They want someone with their own opinions.
You know it's not that easy.
There's also, we all have to stick to
a certain editorial line,
and that puts the editor
under a lot of pressure.
Can't you just write it differently
to make it more reader-friendly?
No. You don't understand.
It's not that easy.
- It's extremely tightly controlled.
- Controlled by what?
I... I don't even know.
I don't even know what to think.
Everyone's saying the same thing.
I'm scared it's going to harm
the justice system.
Aleksandra,
this is not the same as Dad's story.
It's different, all right?
Okay. You're right.
Have some more wine.
I just hope he's found guilty,
so you can get some sleep.
Is that enough? Come on,
set the table before Mum gets here.
THE COURT OF APPEALS WILL
RELEASE TOM HAGEN FROM CUSTODY
Next stop, Grønland.
THE DAILY NEWS
- Erlend.
- Hi.
- Coffee?
- Yeah, thanks.
- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
Well, I guess it wasn't
as obvious as we thought.
It's not over yet.
Sounds like the judges
don't believe Tom Hagen did
what the police are accusing him of.
- Hey.
- Hello.
- Hi.
- Hiya.
I reckon there's, uh, a lousy mood
at the Lørenskog police station today.
I made a few inquiries yesterday,
and it's, uh,
extremely rare for the court of appeal
to go against the police.
- Yeah, at least on a case this big.
- Uh-huh.
And this changes everything.
We can be more critical of police now.
The police are already working
to have him rearrested.
On what grounds?
Separation papers. We found them
at Hagen's house after they arrested him.
Signed by Lisbeth, but not by Tom.
Hang on. Is this really new evidence?
Yeah, because it proves
that divorce was on the table.
It doesn't look good for him.
So why are we finding this out now?
It's very convenient, isn't it?
You think?
If they're trying to rearrest him,
they'll need something stronger than that.
I mean,
the police have appealed the decision.
- But they won't win it, will they?
- No, I didn't say that, but...
the Supreme Court will be
considering this case quickly,
and if the ruling turns out to be upheld,
Tom Hagen could be released today.
If he's innocent, and the police were
too blinkered to see it,
we'll get burnt as well
by being too close to the police.
Oh, come on. Leave all this
"miscarriage of justice" stuff
to the armchair journalists.
This is no time for wavering, Beate.
We're going to have
a balanced coverage on this.
If you think the police are being unfair,
look into it. That's interesting.
Erlend, you should continue looking
at the divorce papers.
Daniel, you should be ready
in case Tom is released today.
I can do that. Yep.
Oh, and, Arne, you get in touch
with his defence lawyer.
- Okay?
- Yep. Okay.
Just put your shoes on.
Was it you who wrote this
on the crypto forum,
under the name Crypto Sneak?
Yeah, it's possible.
Before the kidnapping of Anne-Elisabeth
was made public, you wrote,
"Untraceable currencies
make it easier to abduct someone."
Why did you do that?
I, uh... I told Tom
that I would look into, uh... into Monero.
It's a currency that's used by criminals.
Did you tell that to Tom?
Yeah. I said...
I told him that Monero would be, uh,
commonly used in kidnappings
all around the world.
And what did Tom say?
I don't recall what he said.
In the first interview we did
in December 2018,
you stated explicitly that you and Tom
never talked about Monero.
- Well... I...
- So why didn't you mention that?
Um, I... I don't know. It...
It's not like I can remember everything.
The problem with this is that,
even when someone is telling the truth,
they may end up behaving in such a way
that to us, they appear to be lying,
and vice-versa.
Yes?
So basically,
it's all about how good an actor you are.
Yes.
I mean, in the worst-case scenario,
a good liar will be able to get away
with much more than you'd expect.
So as interrogators,
it's our job to discern
why people present themselves
the way they do.
And every factor is significant...
appearance, cultural background...
The times we're living in, right?
What prejudices we have in our society.
And nobody is immune to prejudice.
All of us are affected by this.
Yes?
So how are we supposed to
determine what's true
if everyone is prejudiced?
I thought it was interesting,
what you said about some people being
more credible than others.
A lot of it depends on the context,
of course.
Let's say you're sitting opposite
a person that you respect.
Someone with good reputation.
- Like here, in this lecture hall?
- For example.
You'd no doubt assume that
all the things they are saying
are truly genuine.
- But in the opposite case...
- Can we start filming?
Okay.
What if, say, you were the husband
of a woman who's gone missing.
Then you're a suspect.
That's just how it is.
But could that attitude have found
its way into the investigation team?
The police are encouraged
to analyse their theories
to reduce the risk of tunnel vision.
But they could still be biased,
couldn't they?
They?
If anyone has contributed to pushing
a stereotypical view of Tom Hagen
on the world, it's the media.
You people.
Go on.
What do you get from this image?
I don't know. What about you?
What I get is a guilty husband.
If you'd shown me a picture of Tom Hagen
playing with his grandchildren
on a sunny day, all calm and friendly,
you'd have a very different
first impression of the man.
Are you saying we deliberately have
portrayed Tom Hagen as guilty?
Ever since the original theory
was changed,
you've used the same photo
every single time.
CORRECTIONAL SERVICE
OSLO PRISON
- Okay, got him? Yep.
- You got him?
Hagen! Hagen, can we get a statement?
I don't know if I got much.
There's a lot of reflection.
But the first lot...
- At the door?
- Yeah.
- That's fine.
- Okay.
Hmm.
WE HEAR WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR
It's well written.
But her critique of the media...
it reads to me as if she's absolving
the police of all responsibility.
And besides, it's all very self-involved.
What do you mean?
I mean, people want to read about
Lisbeth and Tom, don't they?
They don't care about us.
But Tom Hagen has just been released.
Don't you think our readers care that
the police made such a big mistake?
I don't think anyone wants to read
self-criticism the crime section.
Well, I do.
It's not the right place.
I mean, hey, I'm on your side.
But I think you ought to be looking
for a new... a new angle.
Put this one away for a little while.
You could look at other theories
behind the kidnapping.
You know, if Tom didn't do it,
what else could have happened?
- But I'm already working on this.
- I know.
And you will get the opportunity
to explore that later down the line,
but right now,
I think this issue is too big.
It has to wait.
Okay.
DID ANNE-ELISABETH WANT DIVORCE?
POLICE FIND DIVORCE PAPERS
I just don't understand
what happened.
Are you sure
you need to get worked up over this?
Why is she even asking me to work on this?
Does she want a different angle
on the crime or not?
Beate really likes you.
I don't know what to think anymore.
- At least your name isn't on it. You know?
- No.
POLICE
You look scared.
- Are you scared of Tom Hagen?
- No!
I don't know if Tom did it.
I don't know anything.
I'm afraid I've been used.
Is that all Eng has said?
There will be more.
Just give us time.
The lawyers want us
to release him from custody.
Can you see how scared he is?
He is about to break.
We didn't even get to question Hagen,
and now we have to let this guy go too?
We're not letting anyone go,
especially since both Hagen and Eng
are still indicted.
I spoke to the public prosecutor.
It's out of the question to even think
about arresting Hagen again.
You're not giving us the tools
we need to do our job,
and that's why we've got nothing.
But we still control the house.
We really need a search warrant
for the cabins.
It's still not ready.
I'll speed that up.
Good.
- Hey.
- Hi.
- Any news about Eng?
- No.
- How about his computer?
- Nothing relevant.
So nothing pointing
to communication with Hagen
or that proves that he bought
Golf's identity.
You've worked on this for 18 months.
- Uh-huh.
- What have you discovered?
We've identified two groups
who are responsible
for most of the IDs
that are bought and sold.
- Yeah, in Vestfold and in Oslo.
- Right.
We also know they deal in crypto.
We haven't been able to find
a connection to Hagen or Eng.
Yet.
THE DAILY NEWS
- Bye, Aleks.
- Bye, then.
OUT OF SWEDEN
SIBA SUSPECTS TIED
TO CRIMINAL GANG
- Aleks, I'm heading off.
- Have you got a minute?
- Uh, yeah.
- It won't take long. Promise.
I need a second opinion on this.
I'm losing my mind here.
I've rechecked everything.
- Mm-hmm.
- Debts, business disputes, old grudges.
Then I started thinking about
the SIBA kidnapping back in 2005.
Fabian Bengtsson. Remember?
Kidnapped on his way to work
in Gothenburg?
He's the son
of one of Sweden's richest businessmen.
And he's also the owner
of SIBA electronics.
The Bengtsson family has a net worth
of at least two billion.
The kidnappers knew his routine by heart.
Hey!
It was all carefully planned.
He was taken to
a hideaway apartment in Gothenburg.
It took a while before anyone even
understood what had happened to him.
But just then,
the ransom letter was found.
The kidnappers threatened
to kill Bengtsson
if the family didn't pay out
50 million kroner in ransom.
NO NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE POLICE
He was locked in a box
for over a fortnight.
Nobody found out whether
he or the family ever paid the ransom,
but eventually, Bengtsson was released.
Excuse me.
Are you okay?
Yeah, but wasn't it
the Naser gang behind that?
And the boss, Naser Dzeljilji,
was also involved in the NOKAS robbery.
- That's ancient history.
- Yeah, I know,
but he has all kinds
of other connections to Norway.
The Jensen case from last year...
Do you remember?
It turned out Naser had met
the drug baron Gjermund Cappelen
at a McDonald's in Oslo,
and Naser had a bunch of armed youths
who were standing guard
inside the restaurant.
But if he met Cappelen,
it's likely to be about drugs, yeah?
Mm-hmm, but I need to find
a link that goes further.
You know what?
I think I have a source.
Karlberg. Retired narcotics detective.
I'm sending you his number.
Okay.
And then you should try
and get some sleep.
Yeah. Good.
- All right. Good night.
- Bye. Good night.
- Frode Karlberg? Hi.
- Hi.
Aleks. Thank you for meeting me.
I go for a walk here every day anyway, so...
So you want to know more
about Naser Dzeljilji?
Yeah. I've been trying to find out
what ties he has to Norway.
And then his name came up
in the Jensen case.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
You mean that meeting at McDonald's
with all those armed teenagers?
Right.
Yeah. We knew that there was heroin
coming in from Sweden via Vestfold,
so we had surveillance
on a handful of Naser's guys,
but we never had anything on them.
But the Naser gang was connected
to a kidnapping in Gothenburg
a few years ago.
The SIBA kidnapping.
I don't know much about that.
I only worked in Narcotics.
But that was before all the reforms.
Yeah.
But do you still know who
the Naser gang worked with in Norway?
Yeah. They worked with a gang in Vestfold.
- And who's that?
- I don't know if they still exist,
but they were running a...
they were running an auto-repair shop.
Used cars...
customised vehicles for smuggling.
They changed VIN numbers,
false number plates,
so it was easier to dump the cars
if we started catching up with them.
And they could also facilitate things.
- Facilitate?
- Yeah.
You know, hook people up?
With what? Drugs?
No. Logistics.
So, weapons, safe houses,
maybe burner phones, escape routes.
Whatever you need to do a job.
Do you think they're capable
of carrying out
the kind of thing that happened
in Lørenskog?
It could be.
Where in Vestfold are they?
Are you gonna visit them?
Maybe.
They're dangerous.
Kirap's.
Kirap's Auto Repair in Sandefjord.
Kirap's...
KIRAP'S AUTO REPAIR
Shit.
I don't know why I got so scared.
- Can I show you this?
- Mm-hmm.
Uh...
Okay, look.
You remember the Futurum men?
Do you see it?
- His walk?
- Mmm. Quite alike.
I don't know.
TRACES TO VESTFOLD
A NORWEGIAN LINK
TO THE KIDNAPPING CASE
- Hi, Aleks.
- Are you awake?
Yeah. What are you up to? Working?
- Yeah.
- Good.
Uh, can I ask you something?
Uh, yeah, yeah. Go ahead.
Have you heard of a gang from, uh,
Vestfold, Sandefjord, Kirap's?
They, uh, adapt cars for smuggling.
Kirap's? You were down in Sandefjord?
Mmm.
Uh...
Yeah, I know they traffic drugs through
Vestfold because of the harbour, but...
Isn't this a dead end?
Could you possibly ask your informant
if this gang is on their radar?
In the Hagen case?
Mmm.
Okay, yeah. I'll find out.
- Great. Thanks.
- No worries.
Was that good?
This is good. Want more?
No?
It's strawberry. You want some?
HIDDEN NUMBER
MESSAGE
GO TO THE MEETING PLACE.
OK
All right. You don't have to.
Here.
- What's happening?
- I have to go.
What do you mean?
Why are you doing this today?
- I'm sorry. Something important came up.
- What's so important?
I'm sorry.
Hey, my little girl.
Hey, hey.
- Hi.
- Fuck.
Hop in.
Wow. Who knew?
Are you gonna change your angle
now that he's out?
It's, uh... Nothing's changed,
as far as I'm concerned.
There's 20,000 pages in total.
That's just a small selection.
I'll continue to give you more,
but if you tell anyone about me,
you'll get nothing else from us.
All right.
By the way, are you guys investigating
a gang in Vestfold?
They deal with smuggling vehicles.
Kirap's Auto Repair?
Nah.
Where'd you hear that?
It's just something I heard.
Jorunn?
- Hi.
- Hey, there.
Um, have you heard the good news?
No.
Reidar has had two
short-term stays with us,
for two weeks each time, right?
Look. We can offer him a full-time place.
Permanently.
That's great.
The waiting list for these types
of placings are usually quite long,
so I just wanted to let you know.
Oh, thanks.
Heya, Pa.
Hey.
Home?
Yeah.
POLICE
Tommy.
Hey. I, uh, need to get some sniffer dogs.
We're doing a search
of Tom Hagen's cabins.
I'm just going back to headquarters
in Ski.
What?
Crime statistics are out of control,
so they need someone
who can get things in order.
They're short on everything...
people, money.
This case has drained a lot of resources.
So I might be the person
who knows best what's been done here.
How long have you known this?
You're leaving us.
You're gonna be all right.
Okay. Good luck, then.
Okay. I'll check that.
Great. Thank you so much.
- What are you up to?
- Tom Hagen's diaries.
These are just extracts.
We have 20,000 pages.
- Handwritten?
- Yep. He calls them STE books.
Strategy, Tactics and Execution.
He used them as a tool to plan everything.
- For what?
- All of it.
Family, life, his work and his wife.
- So she's in here?
- Mm-hmm.
Where?
Um...
Here.
"Revenge is a dish best served cold."
"Hate is a bigger motivator than love."
He said that about Anne-Elisabeth Hagen?
No. Here he's talking about Mannfred,
the guy we met in Hakadal.
- Yeah.
- He also writes about him,
"I'm gonna kill him slowly but surely."
That's nothing new.
Did you get a chance to look at my case
about the gang in Vestfold?
Yeah, I did.
Uh, it was interesting
but a little problematic.
What do you mean?
Well, I just had Erlend read it too, and...
the proof just isn't there.
You don't want it?
I have found a lead for you
that the police haven't discovered.
It's just what we need.
You're identifying
a specific group in Vestfold.
- It's anonymous.
- It's identifiable.
You're could be connecting innocent
people to serious criminal activity.
These are some pretty serious
false accusations here. That's unlawful.
So why do you treat Erlend's material
differently to mine?
Erlend's sources are in the police, Aleks.
I also have sources in the police.
Yep.
Are you actually interested
in trying another angle, Beate?
You just need to work on it more.
- I thought we were a team, huh?
- Okay, that's enough.
So you're saying we can't release anything
unless it follows
what the police are telling us.
I don't have time for this.
You can keep working on the diaries, okay?
I have a meeting to attend.
What is it that we're actually doing here?
We're just assembling stories
like some kind of production line.
As long as everything works together,
and the article gets clicks,
we just push on with it, just keep going?
What if we're wrong?
Maybe we're just seeing
what we want to see.
What if an innocent man is convicted
of murder because we're not doing our job?
Don't you believe what we're seeing?
Haven't you seen what this guy's doing?
You're just obsessed with
your own moral crusade.
And you're getting stuck
in the same old story.
You're obstructing
what we're trying to achieve here.
And that's set in stone?
I mean, who do you think we are?
At least I know who I am
and what I'm supposed to be doing.
You don't fucking even know
if you want to be here.
Hi.
First you tell me that having
balanced coverage is a good idea.
Then you drop my article on Skipstad.
And then you reject the other one,
even though it was you who asked me to
find a different angle on the kidnapping.
- Why don't you have a seat?
- No.
I've been speaking to the editor,
and we can't afford to waver on this.
Then we're just lapdogs, too scared to
criticise what the police are doing.
Like what?
- When you brought me over to Crime...
- You begged to join this department.
You said we we're doing something
completely new.
That we were going to focus on
the reality, the human angle.
That we'd be offering
a new perspective on crime.
- Yeah, and we will. But, uh...
- That's what I wanted to do,
and I was trusting you to help me.
And now you're just giving up.
You're betraying me.
Stop being so dramatic, Aleks.
I want you to be here.
But you have to be a team player.
First, this department has to function.
And when it does, you and I are
going to sit down together and...
Do you really believe that?
You need to put aside your ego, yeah?
And I say that as a friend.
Have you forgotten?
We have a duty to our readers
to report on what we discover.
That's why I...
- I don't think I can carry on here.
- You just don't get it, do you?
Without these leaks,
we don't have anything.
Not anything to go on at all.
All we have are rumours.
Are you all right?
Here you go.
This looks good.
Good.
Hmm?
It'll be fine.
Hmm?
You think so?
Hey.
I just...
Hey.
- You are gonna be fine.
- Yeah.
Just pour us some wine, yeah?
Yeah.
- I just think it's so interesting.
- What?
Well, all this stuff you've told me
about what's going on.
That the media have all
somehow agreed on this
really wacko idea of this super-cold man
who get his wife murdered
and manages to fool the whole world.
'Cause the police are feeding them
that line.
And we all believe it.
That's probably because
little by little,
we've been fuelling our own fear
that old white men are going to run
the whole world into the ground.
And then we think that,
all these guys,
these men who we've trusted all along...
our fathers and grandfathers...
that underneath it all, they're secretly
all dangerous egomaniacs.
And psychos.
Can I borrow your camera?
Uh, yeah, of course.
Can you get it now?
All right. I'll go and get it.
- Thanks.
- You're welcome.
Wh-What are you doing?
I'm just gonna film something.
You're not eating?
Come and sit in this chair.
And now,
if you can just look into the camera
and then say
everything you just said
exactly the way you said it.
- Exactly the same?
- Yeah, as close as possible.
Okay.
Go.
In the course of this investigation
so far,
we have looked at
a total of 122 different locations,
both in Norway and abroad,
and between 30 and 40 investigators have
been working on this case at all times
at an additional cost
of 26.1 million kroner.
We're still analysing the more than
3,400 seizures that we've made.
Are they planning to shut us down?
We just have to keep going.
I suppose you heard Haris quit.
Huh?
Reassigned to PST.
They offered him a better position.
So do you think they want to replace us?
A clean slate? Fresh faces?
One interrogation,
and I would have made him talk.
- Hi.
- Hi.
I've got one.
Just joined up a few of the dots.
We looked into that gang in Oslo
and didn't get very far.
But in Vestfold, the other gang,
these guys are very serious criminals
who acquired a sudden interest
in cryptocurrency.
They've been running a hustle
down in Marbella since 2015.
Mining, fake exchanges, pyramid schemes.
- Are they connected to Hagen?
- We don't know.
- Let's take a look, then.
- Yeah.
Hi.
Remember you asked about Vestfold?
Yeah, of course.
What was the name of the place?
Uh, it was... Kirap's. Kirap's Auto Repair.
Why did you ask me that?
- I was asking for a colleague.
- What's your colleague writing about?
I have no idea.
I'm pretty sure it was a dead end.
Fine. Don't worry about it.
VESTFOLD
SHOWING 1 HIT
BYLINE: ALEKS ZARETSKI
TRACES TO VESTFOLD - NORWEGIAN
LINK TO KIDNAPPING CASE
DAILY NEWS HAS LOOKED INTO
THE NORWEGIAN CRIMINAL GANG
THAT WE BELIEVE HAS THE CAPACITY
TO CARRY OUT SUCH AN ACT.
Daniel?
You worked with Aleks
on that Vestfold case, right?
- Right?
- Maybe. Why?
- Did you go to Vestfold?
- No.
She went there herself
and filmed a guy at a garage.
Okay.
I think he looks a lot like
the Futurum man.
- Really?
- Yeah. They've got the same walk.
- Could I get those files?
- Yeah. I'll send them over.
I think it's pretty darn interesting
that the media have all somehow agreed
on this wacko idea
of this super-cold husband
who bumps off his wife
and fools everyone.
Just because it's what
the police are saying.
I just don't see how
this ridiculous cliché
is more convincing than common sense.
The media's incompetence
in not giving a balanced perspective,
in, for example, the Lørenskog case,
has led to some very bizarre speculation.
I'm just thinking it's likely that
Anne-Elisabeth wanted to disappear.
I don't know. Maybe she'd just had enough.
And apparently,
Tom Hagen is involved in the building
of that perverse artificial ski centre.
But I think she's probably lying there,
under the concrete.
It could've been some financial contacts
he was doing business with.
You never know. Perhaps there was some
secret hostility there.
Some construction project that went wrong,
and they fell out over cash.
Now, let's just say Tom Hagen is innocent,
and he's got idea
what the police are up to.
That would be one of the greatest
miscarriages of justice we've ever seen.
We need to ask ourselves one question,
and that is whether or not
Tom Hagen is guilty.
The police and the media have
in some way colluded
and contributed to undermining
one of our most fundamental
principles of justice,
and that is that the accused
should be innocent until proven guilty.
Now the digital revolution is under way,
the media are seen as unreliable,
so unless the media is willing to show
that their priority
is to report on all sides of the story,
the risk is they erode the public's trust
until it's gone completely.
Yeah, it's... it's great.
- Are you sure?
- Yeah, it's... Yeah, it's, uh...
- It's not finished, but...
- No, it's, uh... It's really fucking good.
Thank you.
"Aleks Zaretski."
Where does that name come from?
It's from Belarus.
My mum's Norwegian,
but my dad was from Minsk.
Huh. Interesting.
I'm really glad you were able to meet me.
- Yeah, me too. It's a fascinating project.
- Yeah, you think so? Great.
- Coffee?
- Yeah, lovely.
I thought you worked for the Daily News
and were covering the case there.
What happened, then?
It... got a little tricky,
mostly because of
how they were covering the case.
Uh, Tom Hagen was made out to be
some murderer and wife-killer
by both the police and the media.
But I didn't think
the evidence was good enough
or that we were covering it
in a balanced way.
So in a way, this film is
an opportunity to address that?
Yeah.
I think that, uh,
that whole media ecosystem works
in a certain way.
Not just social media or the blogosphere,
but also the traditional media.
The approach is the same.
The whole system,
it's just one big theory machine.
Theory machine?
Yeah. All the different takes and opinions
people are sharing in the comments
section or the blogosphere.
I'm starting to think
the whole news cycle is just as trivial.
That the articles are only being written
to get people's attention,
to generate a click.
So we're all hooked on the story
and can't stop following it.
But there was never any room
for for other perspectives.
Yeah.
But you're launching an attack
on your own people here.
So have you considered
changing your career?
I don't know yet.
No. Now, this is not exactly
typical NRK content,
so maybe we should go through it together,
and we'll see if we can tweak it
a little bit, okay?
KIRAP'S AUTO REPAIR
Hi.
I was wondering
if you did EU testing here.
Thanks. I'll drop by next week.
BASED ON REAL EVENTS.
VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT THE OPINIONS
OF THE INDIVIDUALS FEATURED.
SOME NAMES, INCIDENTS AND LOCATIONS,
AND DIALOGUE
HAVE BEEN FICTIONALIZED
FOR DRAMATIC PURPOSES.
BIRTHDAY CARD REVEALS
TROUBLED MARRIAGE
Mmm.
- Draniki is really good.
- Uh-huh.
Papa would be proud of you.
- Remember when babushka made it?
- Yeah.
We should really cook Belarusian food
every weekend.
Yeah, I'd love to. As long as you make it.
Auntie? Aunt Aleks?
Mmm. Hi.
Look, Auntie. Look.
Didn't he turn out nice?
Wow, isn't this good. Did you draw this?
- Yeah.
- You're so clever.
I saw your name on that article.
Must be exciting in the crime department.
Well, the truth is, I didn't write that.
They put my name on there
'cause I work in editorial.
Actually, I've been trying to get us
to cover the story
from other angles as well,
so we're not just parroting the police.
But this is the Norwegian police.
What do you mean?
There's a reason they arrested this guy.
They'd never have arrested him
if they didn't have something on him.
What's the problem?
What? Don't you remember
what they did to Papa?
You know what they said:
"Yuri Zaretski is a criminal.
Undermining Belarus.
Betraying our country.
He's taking money from America."
But this isn't Belarus.
- Have you forgotten what they did to Papa?
- No, of course I haven't.
But we live in Norway now.
The police work differently here.
Besides, wasn't that why they hired you
in the crime department...
because they wanted a journalist
who was brave enough to walk her own path?
So what?
So the way you are is how
they want you to be.
They want someone with their own opinions.
You know it's not that easy.
There's also, we all have to stick to
a certain editorial line,
and that puts the editor
under a lot of pressure.
Can't you just write it differently
to make it more reader-friendly?
No. You don't understand.
It's not that easy.
- It's extremely tightly controlled.
- Controlled by what?
I... I don't even know.
I don't even know what to think.
Everyone's saying the same thing.
I'm scared it's going to harm
the justice system.
Aleksandra,
this is not the same as Dad's story.
It's different, all right?
Okay. You're right.
Have some more wine.
I just hope he's found guilty,
so you can get some sleep.
Is that enough? Come on,
set the table before Mum gets here.
THE COURT OF APPEALS WILL
RELEASE TOM HAGEN FROM CUSTODY
Next stop, Grønland.
THE DAILY NEWS
- Erlend.
- Hi.
- Coffee?
- Yeah, thanks.
- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
Well, I guess it wasn't
as obvious as we thought.
It's not over yet.
Sounds like the judges
don't believe Tom Hagen did
what the police are accusing him of.
- Hey.
- Hello.
- Hi.
- Hiya.
I reckon there's, uh, a lousy mood
at the Lørenskog police station today.
I made a few inquiries yesterday,
and it's, uh,
extremely rare for the court of appeal
to go against the police.
- Yeah, at least on a case this big.
- Uh-huh.
And this changes everything.
We can be more critical of police now.
The police are already working
to have him rearrested.
On what grounds?
Separation papers. We found them
at Hagen's house after they arrested him.
Signed by Lisbeth, but not by Tom.
Hang on. Is this really new evidence?
Yeah, because it proves
that divorce was on the table.
It doesn't look good for him.
So why are we finding this out now?
It's very convenient, isn't it?
You think?
If they're trying to rearrest him,
they'll need something stronger than that.
I mean,
the police have appealed the decision.
- But they won't win it, will they?
- No, I didn't say that, but...
the Supreme Court will be
considering this case quickly,
and if the ruling turns out to be upheld,
Tom Hagen could be released today.
If he's innocent, and the police were
too blinkered to see it,
we'll get burnt as well
by being too close to the police.
Oh, come on. Leave all this
"miscarriage of justice" stuff
to the armchair journalists.
This is no time for wavering, Beate.
We're going to have
a balanced coverage on this.
If you think the police are being unfair,
look into it. That's interesting.
Erlend, you should continue looking
at the divorce papers.
Daniel, you should be ready
in case Tom is released today.
I can do that. Yep.
Oh, and, Arne, you get in touch
with his defence lawyer.
- Okay?
- Yep. Okay.
Just put your shoes on.
Was it you who wrote this
on the crypto forum,
under the name Crypto Sneak?
Yeah, it's possible.
Before the kidnapping of Anne-Elisabeth
was made public, you wrote,
"Untraceable currencies
make it easier to abduct someone."
Why did you do that?
I, uh... I told Tom
that I would look into, uh... into Monero.
It's a currency that's used by criminals.
Did you tell that to Tom?
Yeah. I said...
I told him that Monero would be, uh,
commonly used in kidnappings
all around the world.
And what did Tom say?
I don't recall what he said.
In the first interview we did
in December 2018,
you stated explicitly that you and Tom
never talked about Monero.
- Well... I...
- So why didn't you mention that?
Um, I... I don't know. It...
It's not like I can remember everything.
The problem with this is that,
even when someone is telling the truth,
they may end up behaving in such a way
that to us, they appear to be lying,
and vice-versa.
Yes?
So basically,
it's all about how good an actor you are.
Yes.
I mean, in the worst-case scenario,
a good liar will be able to get away
with much more than you'd expect.
So as interrogators,
it's our job to discern
why people present themselves
the way they do.
And every factor is significant...
appearance, cultural background...
The times we're living in, right?
What prejudices we have in our society.
And nobody is immune to prejudice.
All of us are affected by this.
Yes?
So how are we supposed to
determine what's true
if everyone is prejudiced?
I thought it was interesting,
what you said about some people being
more credible than others.
A lot of it depends on the context,
of course.
Let's say you're sitting opposite
a person that you respect.
Someone with good reputation.
- Like here, in this lecture hall?
- For example.
You'd no doubt assume that
all the things they are saying
are truly genuine.
- But in the opposite case...
- Can we start filming?
Okay.
What if, say, you were the husband
of a woman who's gone missing.
Then you're a suspect.
That's just how it is.
But could that attitude have found
its way into the investigation team?
The police are encouraged
to analyse their theories
to reduce the risk of tunnel vision.
But they could still be biased,
couldn't they?
They?
If anyone has contributed to pushing
a stereotypical view of Tom Hagen
on the world, it's the media.
You people.
Go on.
What do you get from this image?
I don't know. What about you?
What I get is a guilty husband.
If you'd shown me a picture of Tom Hagen
playing with his grandchildren
on a sunny day, all calm and friendly,
you'd have a very different
first impression of the man.
Are you saying we deliberately have
portrayed Tom Hagen as guilty?
Ever since the original theory
was changed,
you've used the same photo
every single time.
CORRECTIONAL SERVICE
OSLO PRISON
- Okay, got him? Yep.
- You got him?
Hagen! Hagen, can we get a statement?
I don't know if I got much.
There's a lot of reflection.
But the first lot...
- At the door?
- Yeah.
- That's fine.
- Okay.
Hmm.
WE HEAR WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR
It's well written.
But her critique of the media...
it reads to me as if she's absolving
the police of all responsibility.
And besides, it's all very self-involved.
What do you mean?
I mean, people want to read about
Lisbeth and Tom, don't they?
They don't care about us.
But Tom Hagen has just been released.
Don't you think our readers care that
the police made such a big mistake?
I don't think anyone wants to read
self-criticism the crime section.
Well, I do.
It's not the right place.
I mean, hey, I'm on your side.
But I think you ought to be looking
for a new... a new angle.
Put this one away for a little while.
You could look at other theories
behind the kidnapping.
You know, if Tom didn't do it,
what else could have happened?
- But I'm already working on this.
- I know.
And you will get the opportunity
to explore that later down the line,
but right now,
I think this issue is too big.
It has to wait.
Okay.
DID ANNE-ELISABETH WANT DIVORCE?
POLICE FIND DIVORCE PAPERS
I just don't understand
what happened.
Are you sure
you need to get worked up over this?
Why is she even asking me to work on this?
Does she want a different angle
on the crime or not?
Beate really likes you.
I don't know what to think anymore.
- At least your name isn't on it. You know?
- No.
POLICE
You look scared.
- Are you scared of Tom Hagen?
- No!
I don't know if Tom did it.
I don't know anything.
I'm afraid I've been used.
Is that all Eng has said?
There will be more.
Just give us time.
The lawyers want us
to release him from custody.
Can you see how scared he is?
He is about to break.
We didn't even get to question Hagen,
and now we have to let this guy go too?
We're not letting anyone go,
especially since both Hagen and Eng
are still indicted.
I spoke to the public prosecutor.
It's out of the question to even think
about arresting Hagen again.
You're not giving us the tools
we need to do our job,
and that's why we've got nothing.
But we still control the house.
We really need a search warrant
for the cabins.
It's still not ready.
I'll speed that up.
Good.
- Hey.
- Hi.
- Any news about Eng?
- No.
- How about his computer?
- Nothing relevant.
So nothing pointing
to communication with Hagen
or that proves that he bought
Golf's identity.
You've worked on this for 18 months.
- Uh-huh.
- What have you discovered?
We've identified two groups
who are responsible
for most of the IDs
that are bought and sold.
- Yeah, in Vestfold and in Oslo.
- Right.
We also know they deal in crypto.
We haven't been able to find
a connection to Hagen or Eng.
Yet.
THE DAILY NEWS
- Bye, Aleks.
- Bye, then.
OUT OF SWEDEN
SIBA SUSPECTS TIED
TO CRIMINAL GANG
- Aleks, I'm heading off.
- Have you got a minute?
- Uh, yeah.
- It won't take long. Promise.
I need a second opinion on this.
I'm losing my mind here.
I've rechecked everything.
- Mm-hmm.
- Debts, business disputes, old grudges.
Then I started thinking about
the SIBA kidnapping back in 2005.
Fabian Bengtsson. Remember?
Kidnapped on his way to work
in Gothenburg?
He's the son
of one of Sweden's richest businessmen.
And he's also the owner
of SIBA electronics.
The Bengtsson family has a net worth
of at least two billion.
The kidnappers knew his routine by heart.
Hey!
It was all carefully planned.
He was taken to
a hideaway apartment in Gothenburg.
It took a while before anyone even
understood what had happened to him.
But just then,
the ransom letter was found.
The kidnappers threatened
to kill Bengtsson
if the family didn't pay out
50 million kroner in ransom.
NO NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE POLICE
He was locked in a box
for over a fortnight.
Nobody found out whether
he or the family ever paid the ransom,
but eventually, Bengtsson was released.
Excuse me.
Are you okay?
Yeah, but wasn't it
the Naser gang behind that?
And the boss, Naser Dzeljilji,
was also involved in the NOKAS robbery.
- That's ancient history.
- Yeah, I know,
but he has all kinds
of other connections to Norway.
The Jensen case from last year...
Do you remember?
It turned out Naser had met
the drug baron Gjermund Cappelen
at a McDonald's in Oslo,
and Naser had a bunch of armed youths
who were standing guard
inside the restaurant.
But if he met Cappelen,
it's likely to be about drugs, yeah?
Mm-hmm, but I need to find
a link that goes further.
You know what?
I think I have a source.
Karlberg. Retired narcotics detective.
I'm sending you his number.
Okay.
And then you should try
and get some sleep.
Yeah. Good.
- All right. Good night.
- Bye. Good night.
- Frode Karlberg? Hi.
- Hi.
Aleks. Thank you for meeting me.
I go for a walk here every day anyway, so...
So you want to know more
about Naser Dzeljilji?
Yeah. I've been trying to find out
what ties he has to Norway.
And then his name came up
in the Jensen case.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
You mean that meeting at McDonald's
with all those armed teenagers?
Right.
Yeah. We knew that there was heroin
coming in from Sweden via Vestfold,
so we had surveillance
on a handful of Naser's guys,
but we never had anything on them.
But the Naser gang was connected
to a kidnapping in Gothenburg
a few years ago.
The SIBA kidnapping.
I don't know much about that.
I only worked in Narcotics.
But that was before all the reforms.
Yeah.
But do you still know who
the Naser gang worked with in Norway?
Yeah. They worked with a gang in Vestfold.
- And who's that?
- I don't know if they still exist,
but they were running a...
they were running an auto-repair shop.
Used cars...
customised vehicles for smuggling.
They changed VIN numbers,
false number plates,
so it was easier to dump the cars
if we started catching up with them.
And they could also facilitate things.
- Facilitate?
- Yeah.
You know, hook people up?
With what? Drugs?
No. Logistics.
So, weapons, safe houses,
maybe burner phones, escape routes.
Whatever you need to do a job.
Do you think they're capable
of carrying out
the kind of thing that happened
in Lørenskog?
It could be.
Where in Vestfold are they?
Are you gonna visit them?
Maybe.
They're dangerous.
Kirap's.
Kirap's Auto Repair in Sandefjord.
Kirap's...
KIRAP'S AUTO REPAIR
Shit.
I don't know why I got so scared.
- Can I show you this?
- Mm-hmm.
Uh...
Okay, look.
You remember the Futurum men?
Do you see it?
- His walk?
- Mmm. Quite alike.
I don't know.
TRACES TO VESTFOLD
A NORWEGIAN LINK
TO THE KIDNAPPING CASE
- Hi, Aleks.
- Are you awake?
Yeah. What are you up to? Working?
- Yeah.
- Good.
Uh, can I ask you something?
Uh, yeah, yeah. Go ahead.
Have you heard of a gang from, uh,
Vestfold, Sandefjord, Kirap's?
They, uh, adapt cars for smuggling.
Kirap's? You were down in Sandefjord?
Mmm.
Uh...
Yeah, I know they traffic drugs through
Vestfold because of the harbour, but...
Isn't this a dead end?
Could you possibly ask your informant
if this gang is on their radar?
In the Hagen case?
Mmm.
Okay, yeah. I'll find out.
- Great. Thanks.
- No worries.
Was that good?
This is good. Want more?
No?
It's strawberry. You want some?
HIDDEN NUMBER
MESSAGE
GO TO THE MEETING PLACE.
OK
All right. You don't have to.
Here.
- What's happening?
- I have to go.
What do you mean?
Why are you doing this today?
- I'm sorry. Something important came up.
- What's so important?
I'm sorry.
Hey, my little girl.
Hey, hey.
- Hi.
- Fuck.
Hop in.
Wow. Who knew?
Are you gonna change your angle
now that he's out?
It's, uh... Nothing's changed,
as far as I'm concerned.
There's 20,000 pages in total.
That's just a small selection.
I'll continue to give you more,
but if you tell anyone about me,
you'll get nothing else from us.
All right.
By the way, are you guys investigating
a gang in Vestfold?
They deal with smuggling vehicles.
Kirap's Auto Repair?
Nah.
Where'd you hear that?
It's just something I heard.
Jorunn?
- Hi.
- Hey, there.
Um, have you heard the good news?
No.
Reidar has had two
short-term stays with us,
for two weeks each time, right?
Look. We can offer him a full-time place.
Permanently.
That's great.
The waiting list for these types
of placings are usually quite long,
so I just wanted to let you know.
Oh, thanks.
Heya, Pa.
Hey.
Home?
Yeah.
POLICE
Tommy.
Hey. I, uh, need to get some sniffer dogs.
We're doing a search
of Tom Hagen's cabins.
I'm just going back to headquarters
in Ski.
What?
Crime statistics are out of control,
so they need someone
who can get things in order.
They're short on everything...
people, money.
This case has drained a lot of resources.
So I might be the person
who knows best what's been done here.
How long have you known this?
You're leaving us.
You're gonna be all right.
Okay. Good luck, then.
Okay. I'll check that.
Great. Thank you so much.
- What are you up to?
- Tom Hagen's diaries.
These are just extracts.
We have 20,000 pages.
- Handwritten?
- Yep. He calls them STE books.
Strategy, Tactics and Execution.
He used them as a tool to plan everything.
- For what?
- All of it.
Family, life, his work and his wife.
- So she's in here?
- Mm-hmm.
Where?
Um...
Here.
"Revenge is a dish best served cold."
"Hate is a bigger motivator than love."
He said that about Anne-Elisabeth Hagen?
No. Here he's talking about Mannfred,
the guy we met in Hakadal.
- Yeah.
- He also writes about him,
"I'm gonna kill him slowly but surely."
That's nothing new.
Did you get a chance to look at my case
about the gang in Vestfold?
Yeah, I did.
Uh, it was interesting
but a little problematic.
What do you mean?
Well, I just had Erlend read it too, and...
the proof just isn't there.
You don't want it?
I have found a lead for you
that the police haven't discovered.
It's just what we need.
You're identifying
a specific group in Vestfold.
- It's anonymous.
- It's identifiable.
You're could be connecting innocent
people to serious criminal activity.
These are some pretty serious
false accusations here. That's unlawful.
So why do you treat Erlend's material
differently to mine?
Erlend's sources are in the police, Aleks.
I also have sources in the police.
Yep.
Are you actually interested
in trying another angle, Beate?
You just need to work on it more.
- I thought we were a team, huh?
- Okay, that's enough.
So you're saying we can't release anything
unless it follows
what the police are telling us.
I don't have time for this.
You can keep working on the diaries, okay?
I have a meeting to attend.
What is it that we're actually doing here?
We're just assembling stories
like some kind of production line.
As long as everything works together,
and the article gets clicks,
we just push on with it, just keep going?
What if we're wrong?
Maybe we're just seeing
what we want to see.
What if an innocent man is convicted
of murder because we're not doing our job?
Don't you believe what we're seeing?
Haven't you seen what this guy's doing?
You're just obsessed with
your own moral crusade.
And you're getting stuck
in the same old story.
You're obstructing
what we're trying to achieve here.
And that's set in stone?
I mean, who do you think we are?
At least I know who I am
and what I'm supposed to be doing.
You don't fucking even know
if you want to be here.
Hi.
First you tell me that having
balanced coverage is a good idea.
Then you drop my article on Skipstad.
And then you reject the other one,
even though it was you who asked me to
find a different angle on the kidnapping.
- Why don't you have a seat?
- No.
I've been speaking to the editor,
and we can't afford to waver on this.
Then we're just lapdogs, too scared to
criticise what the police are doing.
Like what?
- When you brought me over to Crime...
- You begged to join this department.
You said we we're doing something
completely new.
That we were going to focus on
the reality, the human angle.
That we'd be offering
a new perspective on crime.
- Yeah, and we will. But, uh...
- That's what I wanted to do,
and I was trusting you to help me.
And now you're just giving up.
You're betraying me.
Stop being so dramatic, Aleks.
I want you to be here.
But you have to be a team player.
First, this department has to function.
And when it does, you and I are
going to sit down together and...
Do you really believe that?
You need to put aside your ego, yeah?
And I say that as a friend.
Have you forgotten?
We have a duty to our readers
to report on what we discover.
That's why I...
- I don't think I can carry on here.
- You just don't get it, do you?
Without these leaks,
we don't have anything.
Not anything to go on at all.
All we have are rumours.
Are you all right?
Here you go.
This looks good.
Good.
Hmm?
It'll be fine.
Hmm?
You think so?
Hey.
I just...
Hey.
- You are gonna be fine.
- Yeah.
Just pour us some wine, yeah?
Yeah.
- I just think it's so interesting.
- What?
Well, all this stuff you've told me
about what's going on.
That the media have all
somehow agreed on this
really wacko idea of this super-cold man
who get his wife murdered
and manages to fool the whole world.
'Cause the police are feeding them
that line.
And we all believe it.
That's probably because
little by little,
we've been fuelling our own fear
that old white men are going to run
the whole world into the ground.
And then we think that,
all these guys,
these men who we've trusted all along...
our fathers and grandfathers...
that underneath it all, they're secretly
all dangerous egomaniacs.
And psychos.
Can I borrow your camera?
Uh, yeah, of course.
Can you get it now?
All right. I'll go and get it.
- Thanks.
- You're welcome.
Wh-What are you doing?
I'm just gonna film something.
You're not eating?
Come and sit in this chair.
And now,
if you can just look into the camera
and then say
everything you just said
exactly the way you said it.
- Exactly the same?
- Yeah, as close as possible.
Okay.
Go.
In the course of this investigation
so far,
we have looked at
a total of 122 different locations,
both in Norway and abroad,
and between 30 and 40 investigators have
been working on this case at all times
at an additional cost
of 26.1 million kroner.
We're still analysing the more than
3,400 seizures that we've made.
Are they planning to shut us down?
We just have to keep going.
I suppose you heard Haris quit.
Huh?
Reassigned to PST.
They offered him a better position.
So do you think they want to replace us?
A clean slate? Fresh faces?
One interrogation,
and I would have made him talk.
- Hi.
- Hi.
I've got one.
Just joined up a few of the dots.
We looked into that gang in Oslo
and didn't get very far.
But in Vestfold, the other gang,
these guys are very serious criminals
who acquired a sudden interest
in cryptocurrency.
They've been running a hustle
down in Marbella since 2015.
Mining, fake exchanges, pyramid schemes.
- Are they connected to Hagen?
- We don't know.
- Let's take a look, then.
- Yeah.
Hi.
Remember you asked about Vestfold?
Yeah, of course.
What was the name of the place?
Uh, it was... Kirap's. Kirap's Auto Repair.
Why did you ask me that?
- I was asking for a colleague.
- What's your colleague writing about?
I have no idea.
I'm pretty sure it was a dead end.
Fine. Don't worry about it.
VESTFOLD
SHOWING 1 HIT
BYLINE: ALEKS ZARETSKI
TRACES TO VESTFOLD - NORWEGIAN
LINK TO KIDNAPPING CASE
DAILY NEWS HAS LOOKED INTO
THE NORWEGIAN CRIMINAL GANG
THAT WE BELIEVE HAS THE CAPACITY
TO CARRY OUT SUCH AN ACT.
Daniel?
You worked with Aleks
on that Vestfold case, right?
- Right?
- Maybe. Why?
- Did you go to Vestfold?
- No.
She went there herself
and filmed a guy at a garage.
Okay.
I think he looks a lot like
the Futurum man.
- Really?
- Yeah. They've got the same walk.
- Could I get those files?
- Yeah. I'll send them over.
I think it's pretty darn interesting
that the media have all somehow agreed
on this wacko idea
of this super-cold husband
who bumps off his wife
and fools everyone.
Just because it's what
the police are saying.
I just don't see how
this ridiculous cliché
is more convincing than common sense.
The media's incompetence
in not giving a balanced perspective,
in, for example, the Lørenskog case,
has led to some very bizarre speculation.
I'm just thinking it's likely that
Anne-Elisabeth wanted to disappear.
I don't know. Maybe she'd just had enough.
And apparently,
Tom Hagen is involved in the building
of that perverse artificial ski centre.
But I think she's probably lying there,
under the concrete.
It could've been some financial contacts
he was doing business with.
You never know. Perhaps there was some
secret hostility there.
Some construction project that went wrong,
and they fell out over cash.
Now, let's just say Tom Hagen is innocent,
and he's got idea
what the police are up to.
That would be one of the greatest
miscarriages of justice we've ever seen.
We need to ask ourselves one question,
and that is whether or not
Tom Hagen is guilty.
The police and the media have
in some way colluded
and contributed to undermining
one of our most fundamental
principles of justice,
and that is that the accused
should be innocent until proven guilty.
Now the digital revolution is under way,
the media are seen as unreliable,
so unless the media is willing to show
that their priority
is to report on all sides of the story,
the risk is they erode the public's trust
until it's gone completely.
Yeah, it's... it's great.
- Are you sure?
- Yeah, it's... Yeah, it's, uh...
- It's not finished, but...
- No, it's, uh... It's really fucking good.
Thank you.
"Aleks Zaretski."
Where does that name come from?
It's from Belarus.
My mum's Norwegian,
but my dad was from Minsk.
Huh. Interesting.
I'm really glad you were able to meet me.
- Yeah, me too. It's a fascinating project.
- Yeah, you think so? Great.
- Coffee?
- Yeah, lovely.
I thought you worked for the Daily News
and were covering the case there.
What happened, then?
It... got a little tricky,
mostly because of
how they were covering the case.
Uh, Tom Hagen was made out to be
some murderer and wife-killer
by both the police and the media.
But I didn't think
the evidence was good enough
or that we were covering it
in a balanced way.
So in a way, this film is
an opportunity to address that?
Yeah.
I think that, uh,
that whole media ecosystem works
in a certain way.
Not just social media or the blogosphere,
but also the traditional media.
The approach is the same.
The whole system,
it's just one big theory machine.
Theory machine?
Yeah. All the different takes and opinions
people are sharing in the comments
section or the blogosphere.
I'm starting to think
the whole news cycle is just as trivial.
That the articles are only being written
to get people's attention,
to generate a click.
So we're all hooked on the story
and can't stop following it.
But there was never any room
for for other perspectives.
Yeah.
But you're launching an attack
on your own people here.
So have you considered
changing your career?
I don't know yet.
No. Now, this is not exactly
typical NRK content,
so maybe we should go through it together,
and we'll see if we can tweak it
a little bit, okay?
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Hi.
I was wondering
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Thanks. I'll drop by next week.