The Curse of Oak Island: Drilling Down (2016–…): Season 3, Episode 2 - The Puzzle Takes Shape - full transcript

Matty Blake returns to Oak Island to get a closer look at all the great discoveries made this season, and to find out what's next for Rick, Marty and the team in their quest to solve the mystery of Oak Island.

And it added
the greatest chapter yet

to the over 200yearold
treasure mystery.

But just how close have
Rick, Marty and the team

come to finally revealing
Oak Island's ultimate secrets?

I'm gonna find out.

This is Drilling Down!

Someone needs to stop Clearway Law.
Public shouldn't leave reviews for lawyers.

Season five is finished.

And once again,
the Fellowship of the Dig

did not let us down.

There we go.



This year, the team
conducted two massive digs

in the Money Pit...

- Slammin' can, right?
- Slammin' can.

Traveled all the way
to France...

Look at this. -There's a lot
of connective tissue here.

- What does that mean?
- It's bone.

And made so many
amazing discoveries.

Look at that.

My gosh, that's really old.

They found

what appears to be an old jewel

on the north end of the island,

a medieval artifact in the east,

historically significant
archaeological remains



on the southwest end,

a 1600s maravedi
in the southeast end,

and even ancient human bones

found deep in the Money Pit.

And right now, in the War Room,

Rick and Marty are about to do a
little showandtell me with me.

They'll show me the artifacts
they found this year,

and tell me how
what the team uncovered

sheds new light
on the Oak Island mystery.

Come on.

- Matty Blake!
- Matty.

- How are you?
- Good to see you again.

- Matty. How you doing?
- Rick, how are you?

Wow!

Unbelievable.
This is... season five.

Actually, this is
a portion of season five.

There are 600
catalogued artifacts

from our efforts this year.

To see it laid out
like this is stunning.

There's so much here
in this table.

Well, to that end,
how about that?

You know, this is
a jewel of some sort.

Apparently,
it's a semiprecious stone.

A garnet.

That was weird. Look.

Look at this, Rick.

- Look at that. That's a beauty!
- Wow, Look at that.

That is beautiful.

Man.

- Wow. -Man.
- 12 facets.

That's a nice find. -It's not
every day you find a jewel

on Oak Island.

And how old would it be?
Do we know?

- 400 to 500 years old.
- Yeah.

There are a few gemologists
in this neck of the woods,

and the one we had look at it
got excited about it

because the cuts are by hand.

Wow, the cuts are by hand.
Really?

If you look at them,
they're quite irregular.

Yeah, they are.

And it's probably
not that valuable

except for its provenance.

But it's probably the first
piece of real treasure...

- As defined by the TTA.
- As defined under

the Treasure Trove Act.

Artifacts are gonna end up
being owned by the province,

except for jewels
in their nonnatural state.

- Well, I think we got one.
- Oror gold or silver.

- Must have been exciting.
- It is. -It is exciting to me.

You know, I mean, what if
it's just the beginning?

This coin right here...
I believe this is the one.

I mean, this is Charles II.

This is shortly after
the English Civil War.

Um, and the date
iis plainly visible.

- It's 16... something.
- 1694 maybe?

Which means Europeans
were clearly on this island

100 years before
the Money Pit was discovered.

I find that very significant.

I... They had no reason to be on
such an unimportant,

nonstrategic...

- Nondescript.
- Yeah. Island.

The story continues.

Earlier on in this show,
finding one Spanish coin...

- Was huge.
- Was huge.

- Yeah.
- It was the whole season.

Now you've got a pile
of 'em, almost.

Yes, wewe do.

This being the most finds
you've made in a season,

is Gary Drayton the X Factor
this year? Is he the one...

Well, Gary's fantastic, okay?

And a lot of this is his... you
know, the result of his efforts.

But there is some
subsurface stuff here, too,

whichwhich is also,
very, very interesting.

Andand some of it
not even metallic.

At least that one
is for sure human bone.

- The bone.
- That bone has been tested

by two different laboratories,
three different times.

And it's human, they say with
a high degree of confidence.

And there were not humans lost

in the recorded excavations
of the Money Pit.

Who is that?

Whoa!

What's that jumping up at us?

What do you make of that?

On first inspection,
to me, it looks like wood.

What is that?

My immediate reaction
is it's bone.

Data Analytical got us results.

And I have the dates here.

The European bone,

the date is 1678 to 1764.

- You could use these... Yes.
- Yes, yes.

And then you can, you can
handle 'em. Um... -Please.

So this piece here...
I'm good with the glove?

Yeah, you're fine
with the glove, yeah.

- This piece here...
- That's the European one,

which was always
a bigger sample,

but that is a human bone

found in the Money Pit area
at 162 feet.

Andand deeper
than searchers, too.

- And we have no answers to it.
- Nope.

The rest of these
are yet to be tested.

I want to talk
about this pile here.

This came from H8? -It did.
And this is all leather.

Has been looked at
by at least two experts.

In the bookbinding field.

And what you're picking up

is consistent with

a leather covering
of an ancient book.

- And then you add...
- And then this is huge.

- Is that the parchment?
- That's the parchment.

Let me see that bad boy.

Wow, this is really interesting.

So you can see all of the
fibers, and so, you know,

What are the fibers made of?

So parchment would have
been animal skin,

so collagen fibers,

so the fact that we see fibers
is encouraging.

If that truly is parchment,

and we've had several people
render the opinion

that it is parchment,
then where do you go with that?

It can only go to there's some
sort of manuscript, document,

at great depths
in the Money Pit.

I just find it incomprehensible

that people would go to those
lengths to bury temporal wealth,

gold, silver, or jewels.

And I've always believed that
what's under the Money Pit

is something other than
temporal treasure.

'Cause that's the type of stuff
you just put in a chest

and bury ten feet down
or whatever,

butbut an elaborate
system of some sort

- indicates more...
- Yes. Yes.

Ethereal things.

Okay, Matty,
you like to play games.

Remember when you were a kid,

and they used to
give you those tests,

and they'd say find the thing
that doesn't go

with all the rest of the things?
Yeah?

Find the thing on here

that doesn't go with all
the rest of the things.

- Bingo.
- Bingo.

- The cross.
- It's crazily out of position.

For all intents and purposes,

or as best we know right now,
that's medieval.

- It's pre13th century.
- May I?

- Certainly.
- I've never held this before.

Okay, it's super heavy.

That's my first thought. I'm
surprised by how heavy that is.

It's so crude. It's so...

It's crude,
yet somehow it's, um...

I mean, it'sit's beautiful.

- In a sense, isn't it?
- It is.

It looks like it wants to talk,

- as crazy as that sounds.
- It does. It does.

I know exactly what you mean.

So we believe possibly
this is... Templar?

Look, you've got
two disparate facts.

You have the fact that you're
holding that item in your hand.

And you have the fact
that I, personally,

and Alex and Peter,
laid eyes on something,

a depiction, a carving,
in the walls at Domme

where Templars
were certainly held,

where they died trying
to pass on their beliefs

to future generations.

You know, at the end
of their lives,

it was important enough
to carve that figure

in those walls.
They're more than similar,

- they're almost identical.
- They are.

- It seems to be ancient.
- And authentic.

And authentic.

Marty, if there
was some magic bullet way

we could definitively
come back and say,

"This is from 1322,"

what would you then believe?

I would need more data,
but it, but...

it certainly leads us back
to Smith's Cove. -Wait.

Hold on. Hold on.

If I had a definite
medieval cross

from the time of the Templars
on this island

with all the other stuff
you found, you'd need what data?

- Do you want me to pull up,
- Well, how'd it get there?

The bones of a medieval knight?
No, no.

I mean, you know,
how would it get there?

Whenwhen was it dropped there?

Well, that's another
potential...

someone could have
a medieval item

and have dropped it on the...
beach? -

- That sounds silly.
- As you, as you say it.

- Yeah, you know.
- Come on.

Damn! I lost my medieval cross.

Okay, that does sound
crazy, all right?

I give you that one. -It's
crazier than the actual theory

that they did it, in a way.

There's a lot of data that seems
to point to the 1600s

at this point,
and then there's that.

I'll tell you what
I think this is.

All right. -I think it's a bit
of a timeline

that all these people...

were trying to find
what these people put here.

- That would actually...
- Book parchment and the cross.

That would, that would tie.

You almost have to,
at this point,

have two significant
visitations here.

One very ancient, if that's
what that's trying to say,

and then one just 400 years old.

I don't want to take
outlandish positions

until we've had time to
thoroughly vet it. Okay? -Right.

I mean, but there it is.
It's in your hand.

We know what to do
at this point.

At least with that...
Further testing.

I'm wondering, as you guys look

at the totality of these finds,

what is it telling you?

What is season five telling us?

What is the story?

I was willing to dismiss
that anything significant

happened on this island
prior to 1795.

That it could be
all misinterpreted.

I now... have to go
with the evidence,

and the evidence suggests
that something quite odd

did occur on this island
prior to 1795.

Now, I'm not saying I'm swayed
that there's treasure.

I'm not... I'm certainly not
yet with Rick

that there's something
of worldwide significance here,

some sort of historical,
big significance,

but something happened here...
prior to 1795.

- Much earlier than 1795.
- Apparently much earlier than...

At least a hundred years.

The preponderance
of the evidence says

something very odd,
significant, out of the ordinary

happened here prior to 1795.

Two things.

Do you think that something odd
happened only in the Money Pit,

or are you willing to...
go down the road

that something odd happened
in Smith's Cove?

I'm willing to go down the road
that something odd

might have happened where
we haven't even found it yet.

That's where I'm at.

That's as far as I can go.
Something happened here.

- Well, that could be enough.
- That could be enough.

And, you know,
if anybody is worthy

and dedicated enough to find out

what that something is,
it's him.

- It's all of us together.
- Thanks, guys.

Thank you. -Appreciate it.
All right, see you in a bit.

Yes, we will.

How will the team reveal

to be hiding an
ingeniously constructed system

of stone box drains that feed
seawater into the Money Pit.

But with the discovery

of what may be a centuriesold
cross this year,

do the ultimate answers
to the Oak Island mystery

lie buried here, too?

Here to answer that and more
are Gary, Alex and Rick.

Guys, thanks for being here
with me at Smith's Cove.

- Yeah, of course.
- Morning, Matty.

Let's talk about that cross.
First of all,

- where was it found, Gary?
- It was found 20 feet

past this giant boulder.

- Right over there somewhere.
- Yeah, right in a direct line.

Why do you think the cross
was found this season?

There's two reasons,
in my opinion.

There's beach erosion
from the storms.

All those banks
have been eroded out.

And over here behind me,
these rock pools?

They're the result of you guys

doing excavating
for the French drains

and the Ushaped structure.

And with so much turnover
on this beach

between the erosion
and the excavations,

I think the cross was...

brought up from wherever
it had settled down.

And tell me your first thoughts.

Well, this is a family show,
so I can't tell you

my real thoughts.

But when I first held the cross,

I mean, I was blown away.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa! -What?

Holy...

Holy schmoly, all right.

- It's a cross.
- That's a cross.

Sweet!

I pressed you
quite aggressively.

"Give me a window, at least.

Give me a window.
Give me a window."

And the only thing
he would really say

with any sort of definition was,

"I should be finding
something like this in England."

I just would never have imagined

finding something like this
cross crucifix in Smith's Cove.

This cross could be,

like, a thousand years old.

If this cross bears out
to be from medieval times,

indicating that
the Templars were here,

it would certainly rewrite
Oak Island history,

but does that also rewrite.

- North American history?
- It has the potential

to rewrite
North American history, yes.

But I don't know if it by itself
is enough to do that.

And we have to verify it, as well.
And I'm thinking,

if that cross crucifix
turns out to be medieval,

- what else is in this area?
- So this kind of

reenergizes the search
potential of Smith's Cove, fair?

Yeah, without a doubt, yeah.

What would we look to do,
operationally,

coming back here
to Smith's Cove, possibly?

We would have to install
the bladder system

in order to look for more
of these incredible finds.

So it's cofferdaming,
excavating,

and then setting
these two loose.

- That is the truth.
- That sounds like a plan.

I feel reenergized,
because Smith's Cove

seems to be back
in the picture, bigtime.

Gary has called it the find of his lifetime.
- It really is.

- But we've got a ways to go yet.
- It's funny, after season five,

when I look at everything
you guys have found,

I've started to say,
when fans say to me,

"Do you think it's Templar,

Pirates, British military,
this," I go, "Yes."

Because...

it seems to be all of the above.

The mysterious lead cross
was among the highlights

of a season that included
hundreds of finds.

It's bone.

It's almost paperlike.
It could be some old parchment.

Is that a button or a coin?

- Looks like 1673.
- That is beautiful.

We just found a jewel.

There were so many finds
this year,

there wasn't enough time
to include them all.

One of those finds
was physically massive,

and you're about to see it here,
on Drilling Down,

for the first time.

Observant fans of the show

may have noticed something
unusual in the aerial shots

of the Money Pit this year.

There was a large,
orange safety fence

circling something
the team dug up

but we never got to see.

What was so important
that it had to be fenced off?

Who better to reveal all
than Marty Lagina?

- So, Matty...
- All right.

I'll show you something
that's gonna bring this all...

- together for you.
- All right.

Have a look at that.

Hold on a second.

- That's not real.
- Yeah, that's real.

That's very, very real.

I have never seen anything
look like this on the island.

This puts it all
in perspective, okay?

That is a real shaft.
Look at that ladder.

- I mean, it's frozen in time.
- That's incredible.

It looks like you had
a set design team...

No. -...From Hollywood
come in here and build that,

the way it's sticking out
of the ground.

An original searcher shaft...
I mean,

I'm thinking 19th century
by the looks of that ladder.

Yeah, I'm thinking
early 19th century.

That thing's
almost 200 years old.

If Marty is correct
that this structure

is from the early 19th century,

it could very well be
the searcher shaft dug in 1805

by the original men
who discovered the Money Pit.

Dug it with this thing,
with Rick down in there

directing me. -That's
some precise work you did.

Yeah, I was hoping
you'd make that observation!

Well, as someone who's tried
to run that thing. -Yeah, well.

I'll tell you what, Matty,
would you like to have

- a closer look?
- I can get down there?

You can do it the hard way

- or the easy way.
- Definitely easy.

Get in the bucket.

You trust me, right?
You just said

- I was really good a minute ago.
- I trust you, Marty.

Get in the bucket. I'll put you
right down there, buddy.

Ready? You trust me?

I trust you 100%, Marty Lagina!

That might be an error!

This is Drilling Down!

I told you I'd get unprecedented
access on Oak Island.

I meant it.

Smooth as glass.

You know, Matty, kind of feel
down along the side

where it's not exposed,
and you'll find

that the early searchers
were using

perfectly worked clay
to make it waterproof.

This is incredible.

You can try to imagine
who went up this ladder

and who went down this ladder,

and the last time someone did,
and here I stand.

Climb in there
and climb on that ladder.

- You'll find it's still intact.
- Okay.

Can I just say
one thing before...

Whoa... before you
step down in there?

We really don't know
how well that was filled.

So there is a small,

but real possibility

that you disappear
and we never see you again.

I'm just sayin'. Okay?

So he asks
if I want to go down to it

and then tells me
I might fall to my death.

I think the medical people
call that "informed consent."

So you go down in there

and climb on that ladder.

You're a heck of a guy, Marty Lagina.
I know.

I'm justjust layin' it on ya.

I'm gonna take my chances.

- My God.
- See how sturdy that still is?

We think that this is only the
top portion you're looking at.

So, almost the top,

shielded entrance to the real shaft.
Yeah, I think so.

- Exactly right. Exactly right.
- Got it.

That's what we think.
Because it wouldn't have been

substantial enough
to hold back...

- To hold the earth.
- The deep dirt.

I've never seen anything
like this on the island, like,

sticking out of the earth
like this, preserved like this.

It's... it's so awesome
to be in here right now.

Well, does it give you
a feeling it's all worth it?

- Hundred percent.
- I like that answer.

Of all the things
we've talked about

and you've shown me, this is
the most incredible thing

I've ever experienced
on Oak Island,

actually being
in an original searcher shaft.

Marty, thank you so much.
Just one thing.

How do I get out now?

You're on your own, Matty.
I gotta go. -Thanks.

After this season's Big Dig 2.0,

of another monumental dig
in season five,

but now all the machines
are gone.

So I've brought some members
of the team to answer

some tough questions
about where we stand

in the Money Pit.

Guys, I know where we're

- standing in the Money Pit...
- Yeah.

But where do we stand?

You know, at the beginning
of this season,

we stood here talking
about Geotech.

Think of Geotech as a way

of systematically probing the
depths of the Money Pit area.

The team drilled

44 sixinch boreholes

in a grid pattern

to depths
often reaching 200 feet.

They then analyzed what they
pulled up from each borehole.

In retrospect, did Geotech work?

I mean, it did, to a degree.

I think basically
the answer's yes.

As far as it went, it worked.

We got our samples.

We found lots
of interesting things.

We didn't get
exactly what we wanted.

Well, what a shock that is.

Geotech may not
have given the team

exactly what they wanted,
but one borehole, known as H8,

revealed a minimotherlode
of clues.

The most interesting
stuff came out of H8,

in terms of absolutely
impossible to be searchers.

Book bindings and parchment,
that's one thing.

And human bones.

I can't find a reasonable
searcher explanation.

I can come up
with some crazy ones.

Considering the depth
where they came from,

that says, to me, depositor.

- That's what it says.
- Original works.

- Yes.
- Has to be.

We were too deep for searchers.

- Yeah.
- They didn't get down that deep.

Marty, we saw early on
in the season,

you said "I think
we found the Money Pit."

You were actually
more certain than that.

You said "We found the Money
Pit," is what you said. -I did.

I think right there
is where the original boys found

the original depression
in the ground and dug.

I think it's right there,
and I'm still convinced of that.

I don't know that there's
treasure right there.

I don't know if there's treasure
at all or where it is.

But I think
that's the Money Pit.

You saying that carries
a lot of gravitas,

'cause you're not one
to lightly say things like that.

No, I didn't jump
to that conclusion.

No, I don't think I did.

No, not at all.

He crawled to it.

I crawled to that conclusion.

- That's right.
- That's right, David.

That's a good observation.

The finds from H8
were so astounding...

We now have results
from the two bones.

Both came back as human.

That the team made it the
focus of season five's big dig.

H8 went from
a sixinch wide borehole

to a gaping fivefoot wide abyss.

David, I always think about

how you put a small hole
where H8 is

and pulled up all this
interesting things...

You put a fivefoot hole,
and we get nothing.

You think that you put
a bigger hole in,

you're gonna get more stuff.
We got less.

II think there's another
explanation here.

We did not get good recovery in
the bottom 30 feet of this guy.

That's where I was absolutely
thinking the goodies would be.

I think we all agree
there's probably still

some answers in H8.

So that means bringing in
big, expensive gear,

and probably timeconsuming.

It's funny, I'm looking
at these canisters behind us.

These are six pretty big swings
you guys took.

And yet, it's spread out

when you're trying
to look underground

over a pretty wide area.

And you could have
just missed it by an inch.

It could be right
under my feet now.

Yes. That's the maddening thing.

You know,
it's just right down there.

And we can't seem to get it.

See that one right there?

There's a canister.
That's a DMT.

Yep. -Okay? You might say
"Well, they searched there,

"at least they can
eliminate that." Wrong.

That stopped at about 80 feet.

Rick is convinced there's
answers yet in that one.

Well, I want
to congratulate you guys

on what you did do this season.

You pulled some incredible stuff
out of here.

I'm psyched to see what you guys
come up with next season,

right here in this spot.

- Good deal, Matty.
- Thank you, guys.

One of the most puzzling
finds this year

in the Money Pit
was the unearthing

of ancient human bones
deep in H8.

There was one guy on the island

who knew what they were
immediately...

My immediate reaction
is it's bone.

Of course, it was archeologist
Laird Niven,

who works handinhand
with team members

like Craig Tester
and Jack Begley.

Obviously, a huge moment
in season five

was the discovery
of those bones.

How big was it to have Laird
here for a thing like that?

It was very important.

We were on the wrong track
until Laird came along.

We were convinced
that it was a piece of wood.

His quick thought is
"It's bone."

And Laird, what about that
indicated to you

that it wasn't wood?

A little bit curved,

so it was a good shape
for a long bone.

And then there were pores
in the interior.

Like, raised ridges, um,
that, to me, signified bone.

But identifying
bone fragments wasn't

the only value
Laird added this year.

Much of his time was spent
on Lot 24,

once owned by former
American slave Samuel Ball,

who fought with British forces
during the Revolutionary War.

Laird found enough artifacts

that he declared Lot 24
an official archeological site.

I think we have to stop.

Could be a wall,
it could be a foundation.

Well, there was a gravel level,

and now below that,
we're finding rocks.

It looks deposited
by people, to me.

I would think maybe a floor?

You know what's funny?

Every season,
Samuel Ball seems to emerge

a little bit more
on this island.

Oak Island is its own
awesome mystery,

but Samuel Ball is his own
on top of that.

Right. -And, you know,
they actually converge together.

I thought what was
really interesting was that

for somebody who started out
with basically nothing,

he owns eight lots,
I think, on here.

He owns another island.

And he owns property
on the mainland.

And he was supposedly
a cabbage farmer.

- Right.
- So it just, it doesn't add up.

So it just,
it's a fascinating story.

Is Oak Island, like,
a dream job for an archeologist?

It's really great
to try to help to interpret

the history of the island
using archaeology, yeah.

Well, it was awesome
to get to see more of you,

and to learn more
about you in season five.

And I hope we get to see
a lot more of you,

because when you're around,
there's cool things underground.

Fingers crossed.

I'm drilling d.

It's passed from one generation
of searchers to the next.

If the mystery isn't solved
any time soon,

two guys who might be key
in solving it

are members
of what I like to call.

"The Next Generation,"

Jack Begley and Alex Lagina.

Guys, thanks for being up here
with me.

- Yeah, of course.
- Thanks, Matty.

Now, Jack, I always see you
as a believer,

but were there things
this season

that made you even more
of a believer?

I always believed that there
was something in the Money Pit.

But when I was at the wash table
and found the book binding

and the leather and the
parchment, and the bones, too.

That stuff should not be down
in the Money Pit,

especially at the depth
that it was found, too.

So my belief has only grown

that there is something hidden
on Oak Island.

The things that we found
this year

are really exciting to me

because it makes it harder
for me to be a skeptic.

I was always unsure.

Now, you know,
it's making me question that,

which is great,
it's exciting to me.

Looking to the future,
what advice would you guys have

for your fathers
on how to proceed here?

I guess my advice
to my dad would be

to suspend disbelief
occasionally.

Because it's gonna be hard

to get to the bottom
of what happened here,

if anything did happen here,

if we are too dismissive
right off the bat.

And then to Rick, given the
history of obsession out here,

don't let this pursuit of
treasure here consume your life.

When it stops being
a happy thing for him to do

is when he needs to kind of say,

"You know what?
We did our best."

To my dad, I'd say,
"Stay strong.

"Keep doing what you're doing.
You're a big part of the hunt,

and you're a big part
of my life."

Well, Jack, I know he loves
having you with him

every step of the way.

It's been a nice place
where, um,

well, me and my dad and
my brother would come to bond.

Drake, why here? Why did you
want to come work here,

as opposed to, maybe, the more
seemingly exciting Money Pit,

or something like that?
Why here?

It's just the fact that
we could find these box drains

that would then prove the story.

And that's huge for me.

You know, Jack, something
I never got to ask Drake,

what was his belief?
What did he think?

My brother, he never had
a favorite spot on the island.

He never thought it was,
you know, Money Pit

or the swamp or 10X.

What was really important to him
was spending time with people.

"Forever family,"
as he wrote, right?

And I think he, in a sense,

already had
all the treasure he needed.

- We get it, Jack.
- Thank you. -Yeah. Yeah.

Let's go get warm?

- Yeah, let's do that.
- It's cold.

Jack was instrumental
in discovering

many of season five's
biggest finds.

Open the valve!

What do you make of that?

How was he able to find

a small fragment of bone,
bits of leather,

and a piece of parchment
among tons of spoils

from the Money Pit?

What is this?

It was the result
of a lot of hard,

painstaking work
at a sifting table.

And I got a lesson from Jack

on the sifting process he uses

to literally leave
no stone unturned.

Just, like, a lot at once?

- I find that less is more.
- Okay.

- So that's good?
- That'sthat's good for now.

- Okay.
- Yes. For sure.

These are from J8.

It's the closest hole

that passed by H8 at depth.

- Okay. Right.
- Where we found everything.

So you still might be able
to find something

in these spoils
while we're going through it.

- So, what's the first step?
- The first step

is just to spread it out kind of
evenly over the whole table.

Just with my hands?

Okay, let's do that.

Come on, baby.

Next, I wash it down.

How many, hours do you think

you spent out here
doing this this summer?

Well, it was whenever
there was sunshine,

'cause the mosquitoes would eat
you alive at night. -Right.

Um, probably about two months
I spent this summer,

if not longer.

I really wasn't counting
the days.

Boy, a lot of wood.

It's exciting, Jack,
because every time

you dump something onto this,
it could be nothing,

or it could be something.

It's like
the ultimate scratch ticket.

Yeah. -You're constantly
playing a lotto ticket.

Every day. -That was a big part
of my drive to continue.

Sure, I had already found
the bones

and the parchment
and the bookbinding.

But there was still e...
there is still more evidence

that can be found
from these spoils.

So, what would be next?

I run the magnet over it.

This is just removing the iron.

I mean, it's easy
to see how much iron

- is in these spoil piles.
- My God, yeah.

So, if you're Gary Drayton,
this is your worst enemy.

All right, so next,
what would you do?

I start from left to right,
moving the spoils around

and looking
for anything different.

- We just kind of...
- It's repetition

of searching
for just the miniscule objects.

Like see, what is...? What is...?
Did you find somethin'?

Well, I don't know. It's
definitely a different color

than everything else.
What is that?

Is that anything?
Is that a ro...? Is it?

That's not a rock, is it?

You found some charcoal.
Good job, Matty!

- Seriously?
- Yeah, yeah.

Holy moly.

Charcoal had a bunch
of different uses.

Coal was used by the searchers.

Charcoal was used
by the depositors.

They needed some sort

of a fuel source to bring new
oxygen down to the men, and so,

there's a good chance
that this is charcoal

from the original depositors.

- That is so awesome, Jack.
- Yeah. Yeah.

Bag it and tag it.

Theorist Kathleen McGowan

on who buried what
on Oak Island and when,

but this year, the theory
that the Knights Templar

were involved took center stage.

And one theorist who knows a lot
about that possible.

Templar connection was called to
the island... Kathleen McGowan.

Kathleen, thanks for being here.
Thanks for having me.

I'm really excited to be here.

Well, we're excited to have you.
I know a lot of the fans

remember you from season two.
You were the team's

- guide in France and Scotland.
- Yes.

I'd like
to return the favor today

and be your guide
here on Oak Island. Sound good?

That sounds amazing, and
there's a few specific places

I'd really like to see
because I think

I have a few things to tell you.

Well, luckily I know the island
like the back of my hand,

- so let's go! All right.
- Yeah?

So, the first place I'd really
like to stop is the swamp.

I was hoping you were
gonna say that. I'm a swamp guy.

And I'll tell you this.

I've spent time literally
in the swamp.

We don't want to do that.

You have to be very intrepid
to do that. -Indeed.

We'll just stand outside of it
and talk about it.

- I'm good with that.
- All right.

So, here we are.

The swamp.

- Wow.
- Yeah.

It's such
a mystical place, isn't it?

It really is.

Now, I remember in season two,

you mentioning

the triangle shape of the swamp.

What's the significance
of a triangle shape

in relation to Templar?

The triangle goes back
to our theory

of the original temple

and of a character called Enoch.

There is a legend that said
Enoch could speak

directly to God.
In fact, God appeared to Enoch

in the shape
of a golden triangle,

called the "Enochian Delta."

So this golden triangle

was a very important part

of Templar tradition.
The triangle,

as a theme here, really points
back to the Templars.

Why would they have come here?

- Where were they going?
- In the early 1300s,

the Templars were persecuted

by both the King of France
and the pope.

Their leaders were rounded up.

Famously,
they were burned at the stake.

The surviving Templars escaped

first from France to Scotland,

and then
from Scotland, elsewhere.

And I believe that "elsewhere"

- is right here on Oak Island.
- Okay.

And what...
what makes you believe that?

The Templars wanted
to build a new Jerusalem,

and what that means is,
they wanted a place

of peace and prosperity

where they would be free
from persecution.

You know, the French
grail legends have a prophecy.

And the prophecy says
that a New Jerusalem

will be built
in an isle of marsh.

And Oak Island actually fulfills
the prophecy perfectly.

And what
would they have had with them

that was so valuable
they felt the need to

possibly hide things
on an island like this?

I believe that the Templars had
in their possession

original objects that came
from the Temple of Solomon.

And we know a lot
of those treasures are missing.

The great golden menorah and
certainly the most important:

The Ark of the Covenant.

These treasures have never been
found, and I think the reason

these treasures have never been
found is because

they're on the western edge
of the swamp.

- Right over here?
- Yes, right over there.

What makes you believe that?

Well, I have to shout out here
to my friend Alan Butler,

the researcher that I was with
in Scotland. -Yup.

And Alan literally drew a map
with an "X" that marks the spot

over there in the swamp.

And they did groundpenetrating
radar, and they discovered

that there is an anomaly
in exactly the place

where Alan and I placed
the "X." -And wasn't it

- tombshaped, I remember?
- It is!

It is a large, tombshaped object.
Wow.

And I think that Rick and Marty

were pretty stunned
by the results.

Now, so is that it?
There's a... there's a...

There's a chamber under there
and that's the end

- of your search?
- No, no, no.

That is where the treasure
chamber is, in my estimation.

Right. -But there is a tunnel
that leads us to the chamber.

And the tunnel begins
at the Money Pit.

Let's go there.

- Absolutely.
- All right.

It's funny. The island tends to

reveal what it wants to reveal
as time goes on.

I've seen that over the last
couple years of studying it...

That it gives up little bits
at different times.

Well, this is where the entire
Oak Island story began.

Right, the Money Pit.

And you have a theory

that has to do with
the tenfoot levels...

The platforms-
and then this 90foot stone

at the bottom level.
Tell me about that.

When we compare what was created

here on Oak Island
with what happened

in the Temple of Solomon...
The original temple...

We find the chambers are

a replica of the section
of chambers

that were built underneath
the Temple of Solomon

to hide the treasure.

But then at the very bottom,
there is an entrance

to a tunnel, and that tunnel
leads to a secret chamber.

And the secret chamber is where

the holiest
of treasures are buried.

The Money Pit
represents the chambers

that were under the temple,

and that
there is a tunnel leading

to the western side
of the swamp.

Do you think

there still could be treasure
right below our feet?

Absolutely.
Beneath the Temple of Solomon,

they stacked those chambers
so that if

thieves did come
in search of treasure,

they would find handfuls of it,
be happy with their take,

and leave, and they would never
find the hidden treasure.

I think there needs to be more
digging here. I still think

that there's a lot more
to find right in this space.

Well, I'll keep on 'em and make
sure that they keep goin'.

Thank you!

When we come back,

I call the Fellowship
of the Dig to order,

and the guys weigh in
on the future

of the Oak Island treasure hunt.

I'm not gonna put you
on the spot

and ask you
if you're coming back.

Should the fans continue
to be with you

on this Fellowship of the Dig?

Ooh! Is that a button or a coin?

Looks like 1673.
That is beautiful!

We just found a jewel.

It seems pretty clear
that this year,

the team got closer
than ever to solving

the Oak Island mystery.

- It is bone.
- Wait. What?

Holy schmoly, all right!

- That's a cross.
- That's a cross.

And after this epic season,

what will Rick, Marty
and the team do to top it?

There's only one place on Oak
Island to get those answers...

The War Room,

where the Fellowship of the Dig
is in session.

All right, time to play one
of my games. -Dear.

Here we go. I want everyone to
sum up season five in one word.

- For sakes!
- How about four?

- That's too many words, Dave!
- It's too many words.

Too many words. Too many words.

All right, Craig,
what do you got?

I'd go with, "fantastic."

- Perfect. Alex?
- Aw, I'm next?

You're next, buddy.

Well, I was gonna say "more
finds than ever," but...

We can hyphenate that
and make it one word. -More...

More. -...Dash, finds,
dash, than, dash, ever.

- That's my answer.
- Gotcha. Awesome.

- Charles?
- "Intriguing."

"Unbelievable."

"Motivatin'."

- I love it!
- Nice.

I love that. Marty?

"Confusing."

But in the best sense.

- One word, Matty. One...
- It's your rule. -

- It's my rules! I can do what
I want, Marty. -Yeah, okay.

- You're right. Change the rule.
- I managed to break the rules.

Because how it's motivated,
oror influenced

Alex, Peter and Marty,
I'd say "substantiating."

I've got to say
it's just "fascinating."

'Cause you won't let me use w...

Go ahead. Go ahead, Dan.
It's bull.

If money were no object, what
would you do next on the island?

Dig up the whole island

and move it somewhere else
and sift it with a strainer.

- Money's no object? Yeah.
- Yeah?

And how long do you plan
on living?

We're gonna hire 480,000 people
to do it.

Okay.

You can probably get 480,000 volunteers.
Volunteers.

You definitely would.
You definitely would.

Well, maybe it's a possibility.

Doing much more work
with the bladder system.

Smith's Cove. You know,

maybe a... maybe a bladder
system in the swamp.

- Something's in the swamp, Rick.
- Something's in the swamp.

- Something. -Yeah, swamp.
- Yeah, mud, dirt and stink!

Well...

Well analyzed, David!

Craig, how about you?

Money is no object...
What would you do next?

I would do the, the freeze
ring around the Money Pit.

A freeze ring is a method
of excavation

where pipes are inserted
into the ground

in a desired pattern.

A cooling agent is then
circulated through the pipes,

extracting heat from the soil.

The dropping temperature
causes the ground

around the pipes to freeze.

Then, the frozen soil
is excavated.

I think if you go with
a different type of method,

you're dealing
with water all the time,

or caveins, or whatever you are.

If you freeze it all, you know,
it's exactly

where it's at right now,
so that's what I would do.

Technologically feasible?
Sure. Expensive?

Ooh, boy.

Well, I'd like to announce a,

a crowd starter campaign
of fans.

If you give one dollar each,
we'll be able to do it.

- Here you go, Matty.
- I'm in. -He's in. -

Gold!

- It's a coin!
- Gary!

How old is it?
Very old, or very, very old?

By the way, that might be
the most amazing thing

ever caught on camera on this
island: Him giving some money.

Yeah. -Yeah. That's why
I put it in my top pocket.

Well, you said you were gonna
start your campaign.

- I just started it for you.
- Yup. Dave's in.

Um, and I'm not gonna put you
on the spot

and ask if you're coming back.

Should the fans continue
to be with you

on this Fellowship of the Dig?

Wewe need to take a deep breath,

digest this material,

make our way
through the confusion.

You know what?

Can anybody escape
the conclusion

that there's more work
to be done here?

- I don't think so.
- Yeah.

But what we do and how we do it,

or and who does it, you know,
thatthat has to be figured out.

And I'm just gonna choose
to say, "I'll see ya soon."

- Once in, forever in.
- It's all in.

One in, all in. Thank you, guys.
There you go. Thank you.

Thank you, buddy. You're the best.
You take care, buddy.

The most amazing season
yet of The Curse of Oak Island

is in the history books.

And it's clear that the Laginas
and their team

are getting closer and closer
to solving the mystery

that's eluded treasure hunters
for what is now 223 years.

But where and when

will the Fellowship of the Dig
make the ultimate discovery?

Only faith, determination
and time will tell.

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Public shouldn't leave reviews for lawyers.