The Curse of Oak Island (2014–…): Season 2, Episode 6 - Seven Must Dye - full transcript

Tonight on The

Curse of Oak Island...

And in order to dig in

the Money Pit, we have to shut

off all the flood tunnels.

Start it up, Rick!

And maybe this dye test

will lead us in that direction.

We're here in the

South of France, and we're

really trying to dig back to



find the roots of this.

If you were going to look for

the treasure of the Knights

Templar...

I would start in

Oak Island.

It's right in front

of you right now.

I found something.

I'm excited.

There is an island

in the North Atlantic where men

have been looking for treasure

for more than 200 years.



So far, they have uncovered

booby-trapped flood tunnels,

carved stones with strange

symbols, 17th century Spanish

coins, and evidence of a wooden

vault covered in concrete.

Six men have lost their

lives trying to solve the

mystery.

And according to legend, one

more will have to die before

the treasure can be found.

Over the last few

weeks, Rick and Marty Lagina,

along with their partners, have

made astonishing progress on Oak

Island.

Rick, I've got a

question to ask you.

Do I have to pay for this trip?

With information, yes.

After locating the

original Money Pit, and then

drilling to a depth of 142 feet,

the team obtained two core

samples.

Concrete and then

wood.

That's the description.

That's what they found

in the top of the vault.

Core samples which,

amazingly, match the historical

descriptions of a mysterious

seven-foot tall wooden vault,

first reported by treasure

hunter William Chappell in 1897.

But although finding the

so-called Chappell vault

represents an enormous

breakthrough, the Laginas now

face an even bigger problem: how

to get to it.

For the past two centuries,

every attempt to drill below 90

feet has encountered intense

flooding, long believed to be

the result of a network of

elaborate booby-trapped flood

tunnels that run deep

underground.

In order to-to dig in

the Money Pit, we have to shut

off all the flood tunnels, and

right now, we're only certain of

two.

We need to make certain there

aren't any others.

Hey, Dan!

You gonna catch us some supper,

mate?

Might, if you like

mackerel.

Today, with the

help of Dan and Dave

Blankenship, Rick Lagina and

and Divemaster Tony Sampson are

scouting the possible locations

where the flood tunnels are

believed to enter Oak Island.

The supposed five

drains.

Right.

But that was never

ascertained that it was only

five?

Hard to say, because

if you want to find-find that

out, you got to do more testing,

you know.

Right.

In 1850, a team of

treasure hunters claimed they

found evidence of five stone box

drains in Smith's Cove on the

eastern side of the island.

According to reports, the drains

were designed to feed seawater

into the tunnels, which, in

turn, would undermine all

attempts to excavate the Money

Pit.

We have to shut off

the water before we can do the

dig.

I, specifically, am interested

in if there's another flood

tunnel system, undisturbed.

This whole island is about

information.

Get enough information, and

maybe we can solve it.

In 1988, Oak Island

residents Dan and Dave

Blankenship recreated a test

that was first conducted by

treasure hunter Frederick Blair

back in 1898.

The test involved pouring

non-toxic dye down one of the

flooded treasure shafts, and

then, trying to identify if and

where the dye might be seeping

out into the surrounding ocean.

The dye came out at Smith's

Cove at the island's south

shore, and at a third location

just north of Fred Nolan's

property.

I mean, look at how far

we are from Smith's Cove.

Yeah, I know, Rick.

I can't believe that

the flooding system is this

large.

Hey, I didn't dig it.

This lends credence

to what I said to you, Rick.

There's more than one flooding

system here.

Yeah.

There's several.

If there is a new flood

tunnel, that means that we could

possibly uncover those drains

and learn how these, that have

been disturbed significantly,

really function.

And maybe we could learn how to

stop the water into the Money

Pit.

Tony, why don't we head over to

South Shore and check out the

other place?

Okay.

For Rick Lagina and

other members of his team,

finding and sealing off the

so-called flood tunnels could be

the most important step in

solving the Oak Island mystery.

But there are some who believe

the answers lie not on Oak

Island but thousands of miles

away and far back in time.

While researching the history of

Oak Island, Marty Lagina's son,

Alex, has invited his father to

join him on a fact-finding trip

to Southern France.

I can see one thing.

I mean, it's spectacularly

beautiful, right?

>> KATHLEEN McGOWAN: There's

certainly treasure in the

landscape.

Joining them is

author and researcher Kathleen

McGowan, who claims she can

prove not only what the

treasure is but where it came

from.

For the first stop on their

journey, she has brought them to

see the medieval ruins at the

small town of Montsegur.

It is here, according to

McGowan, that the mystery of Oak

Island began more than 800 years

ago.

Phew!

That is impressive.

Wow.

This is the most

sacred land of the region.

You can see why they called it

Montsegur, which means "the

secure mountain."

Yes.

Because it was

deemed impregnable as a

fortress.

Montsegur was a

sacred place to the Cathar

people a sect of early

Christians who lived in this

region of Southern France in the

12th and early 13th centuries.

According to scholars, the

Cathars claimed to be able to

trace their origins all the way

back to the days of Jesus.

This is all about

the potential origins of what

you guys are actually looking

for.

There is an idea that the

Cathars had all of the most

sacred treasure in human history

right here in this place.

It includes the Holy Grail.

It includes the Ark of the

Covenant.

That's fascinating.

The Ark of the

Covenant and the Holy Grail?

Because many of their beliefs

were considered heretical to the

Catholic Church in Rome, the

Cathars were persecuted.

But there are some who believe,

not so much for their faith, as

for the sacred treasures that

they possessed.

So, this is a

monument to the Cathar people.

What happens in 1209, the Pope

declares a crusade against the

Cathar people, and begins to

massacre them by the tens of

thousands.

In 1244 AD, Pope

Innocent IV authorized a bloody

massacre of the Cathars, which

left approximately 500 of them

cornered atop a mountain inside

the fortress of Montsegur.

Tired, weak and with little food

left, most agreed to renounce

their faith and were allowed to

go free.

But in a surprise move, nearly

200 of the most devout Cathar

monks promised to surrender in

exchange for a two-week period

of truce.

The request was granted.

A night or perhaps

two nights prior to the

surrender, four Cathar men

escaped, taking all of the

Cathar treasure with them.

Wow.

According to

McGowan, the Cathars gave the

sacred objects in their

possession to members of the

Knights Templar in hopes the

ancient order of warrior monks

would keep them out of the hands

of their enemies.

The treasure is

moved into Templar territory.

Then, after that, the treasure

would have been taken out of

France, and secreted somewhere

where it's safe, to Oak Island.

Let's go up.

I thought I was a

pretty good student of history.

I knew nothing of the Cathars.

I can believe that they were

sheltering some great knowledge

or great treasure.

Almost there.

Well, this is it, huh?

This is.

This would have been the main

part of the castle.

It's been rebuilt since the

Cathars were here.

Mm-hmm.

>> KATHLEEN Awfully small to

hold 500 people.

Well, yeah, I was going

to say, it looks a little...

It does.

It does.

It's a lot smaller than

it looks.

So what I'm going

to show you is that this is

where the treasure came and

went through this pathway

here.

Those last two weeks, when the

Cathars were all in here, they

took the treasure down the

mountain on a pulley system, and

landing safely in Templar hands.

I'm standing at the

top of Montsegur.

Quite a story.

In a spot that was for sure the

last stand of a people.

And these people lowered

something down to people waiting

below to secret it away.

That was intriguing.

Why were they so viciously

attacked?

And what did they have?

Did it leave and maybe go to

North America?

We got to find those things out

yet we don't know.

Who'd have guessed that a couple

of young boys' fascination with

an island off of Nova Scotia

would have led here?

It feels like a long ways away

right now.

Start it up, Rick.

17 feet, David.

How are we looking?

Okay, Tony, right about

here.

Cut it here.

Okay, mate.

Back on Oak Island,

Rick Lagina along with Dave

and Dan Blankenship and

Divemaster Tony Sampson are

at the island's south shore to

scout another area for an

upcoming dye test.

So it's right off of

here?

Yep.

Where the ice holes

were.

There was four of

'em, uh, initially.

First this way here,

here, there and there?

Yep.

In the winter of

1980, Dan Blankenship was

overseeing a pumping operation

in the Money Pit when he noticed

four large circular holes in the

frozen bay off the island's

southern shore.

These same so-called ice holes

appeared again in 1987,

convincing Dan that he had

discovered at least one of the

places where the water that

flooded both 10-X and the Money

Pit was coming from.

It's awful hard to

comprehend that these tunnels or

whatever they were that was

keeping 'em there was air

bubbles, like I say, coming

up and it's awful hard to

explain why they're out in 12,

13 foot of water.

But there... that's where they

were.

Well, Dan, I-I really

would like to see one of those

box drains undisturbed so we

can see for ourselves and maybe,

just maybe, this dye test will

lead us in that direction.

I'd love to see one, and to find

that would be pretty

significant.

As Rick Lagina

prepares to conduct the dye

test, his brother Marty and

nephew Alex...

Which way?

This way.

Yeah, where to?

...have journeyed

to Rennes-le-Château in Southern

France with author and

researcher Kathleen McGowan.

You know, if you're

gonna have a place steeped in

tradition and secret legends and

things, you know, this is where

you would have situated it,

right?

Absolutely.

Which I guess is what

they did.

Kathleen is

convinced that before sacred

religious artifacts like the Ark

of the Covenant and the Holy

Grail made their way to Oak

Island, they were hidden here by

members of the Knights Templar.

This village is

arguably the most enigmatic, uh,

mysterious place in France.

Um, it's known as the village of

mystery.

There are little symbols

everywhere in Rennes-le-Château.

As you'll see right here, the

house we're about to go into,

there's an iron Templar cross

over the door.

Oh, yes.

And that is because

we are about to enter into a

Templar household.

Hello, hello.

Hello, Tobi.

Hi, Kathleen.

Nice to see you.

Oh, lovely to see

you.

Bonjour.

My name is Marty.

Nice to meet you.

Tobi.

Tobi.

Tobi, I'm Alex Lagina.

Nice to meet you.

I'm Tobi.

So, may I introduce you?

Yes.

Come.

For decades,

researchers studying the Oak

Island mystery have been struck

by mounting evidence that

members of the Knights Templar

visited the island as early as

the 14th century nearly 100

years before Christopher

Columbus is credited with

discovering the so-called "New

World."

If such a connection could be

proven, it would lend credence

to the many legends which

suggest that the Ark of the

Covenant and even the Holy Grail

are among the sacred treasures

buried on Oak Island.

Tobi, being a 21st

century Templar and a Templar

historian, is really the man who

can answer a lot of the

questions that you guys have...

Mm-hmm.

...about how the

Templars relate to Oak Island.

I-I don't know how...

where to start.

I mean, you know.

You are a Knight Templar.

You are a...

It's amazing, isn't

it?

I had no idea.

That-That is amazing.

And-And Tobi, that's

for sure, right there was a

treasure, it's never been

found those are sure things?

There's...

That's for...

There's no

speculation?

Mm-hmm.

That sounds right.

Philip IV

otherwise known as Philip the

Fair ruled France from 1285

to 1314.

He was a ruthless and ambitious

monarch who, due to mounting

debts, desired to possess the

wealth of both French Jews and

the Knights Templar.

On Friday, October 13, 1307,

Philip ordered the arrest of the

Templars and burned many of them

at the stake.

I still don't see how

it connects to Oak Island.

Wait, wait, wait a

second did you say there were

Templar tombs on Oak Island?

Right.

There is a rock at the

center of the cross that

Nolan...

You know, the-the

stone cross?

Mm-hmm.

At the center there

was no rock, so they dug, and

buried just below the surface

there is a rock, and it has a...

what's been described as a

sword.

A possible Templar

Tomb on Oak Island?

In 1981, while surveying his Oak

Island property, treasure hunter

Fred Nolan discovered five

large, cone-shaped boulders that

formed a gigantic, perfectly

symmetrical cross.

After digging in the center,

several feet down, Nolan

unearthed a sixth boulder with

what appeared to be a human face

and the image of a sword carved

into it.

These boulders, now known as

Nolan's Cross, could be the

pivotal evidence that the

Knights Templar buried something

extraordinary on Oak Island.

If you were gonna look

for the treasure of the Knights

Templar right now, today you

would look on Oak Island?

Today is an

important day on Oak Island.

This is the day Rick Lagina

hopes he will discover the

location of what many believe to

be man-made flood tunnels that

have prevented the Money Pit

from being excavated.

If successful, Rick and the team

will then be able to dam up the

tunnels and then begin digging

142 feet down to the mysterious

wooden vault they discovered a

few days ago.

You get that pump

started yet?

Not yet.

Let's have a little conversation

first, figure out what...

exactly what we're doing.

You're gonna turn the

key on, then you're gonna start

it up, then you're gonna pull.

Everybody's got to keep

their heads in the game today,

because we're only gonna have

one shot at this.

This really is a delicate dance,

if you will.

We need assets in the air, we

need assets on the ground, we

need someone to monitor the pump

in 10-X, we need people in

boats.

In order to monitor

the areas where the dye may be

found seeping into the ocean,

Rick has chartered a helicopter

from a company in Halifax.

On his direction, the teams

stationed in boats will mark any

areas where dye emerges with

special buoys.

You're gonna man the

pumps.

You and Jack are gonna be in one

boat.

You're gonna be on South Shore.

Okay?

Tony, you got the fast boat.

The hope is there's maybe a new

flood system, undisturbed.

Everybody keep their heads in

the game, everybody watch.

Everybody knows what we're

looking for.

Eyes on target and-and we're

off.

She good?

Good.

Start it up, Rick.

The three-inch pump

Rick has set up will force more

than 300 gallons of water per

minute into 10-X.

But based on dye tests

conducted in the past, it could

still take several hours for the

dye to work its way through the

so-called flood tunnels and seep

into the ocean.

Tell me if it's okay.

We good?

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

It's going quick.

Where do you think it's gonna

come up at?

Well, I know it's gonna

come up out four, three places

here and three places on this

side.

You think it's still

connected in Smith's Cove?

Yep, yeah.

Nothing has changed, Jack, since

the last time we did this.

Rick's hoping there's a third

one over on that side, but...

If you find it, then

pretty much you can

reverse-engineer it, which might

give you an idea to how these

were made as well.

True.

I didn't know this was

a sterile operation, you needed

rubber gloves on.

For the test, Rick

is using a nontoxic bright green

dye that can color 120,000

gallons of water per pound.

What color is that?

Yellow green.

The real unknown, of

course, is when is the dye

coming out?

That's the real unknown.

As long as everybody's in

position, I think we'll be fine.

But... you know, will some

unknown factor enter into the

equation?

Probably.

It's Oak Island.

So, we're about to

enter the most amazing church

I've ever been in, which is the

church here in

Rennes-le-Château.

There are some clues here that

point to Oak Island.

In their search for

evidence that the treasures of

the Knights Templar may be

buried on Oak Island, Marty and

Alex Lagina have arranged to

visit the legendary church at

Rennes-le-Château.

When was this church

built?

The church had

been built about 800 after

Christ.

It had been used as a chapel for

the castle.

And later dedicated to Mary

Magdalene and used as a church

for the village of

Rennes-le-Château.

For decades, the

church at Rennes-le-Château has

been the focus of intense

mystery and speculation.

There are even many who believe

it marks the resting place of

St. Mary Magdalene an early

follower of Jesus of Nazareth.

If, as Tobi and Kathleen

believe, the treasures of the

Knights Templar were once hidden

in Rennes-le-Château and

eventually moved across the

ocean to Oak Island, could there

be evidence in the church to

prove their theory?

There are no

accidents in this church.

Every inch of it is decorated

with a very specific purpose.

And some of that decoration, I

believe, pertains to Oak Island

and pertains to taking things to

the West.

One of those elements here is

the inclusion of corn in this

statue of John the Baptist

baptizing Jesus.

Corn?

A large-grain plant native to

North America?

Why would a statue depicting

Jesus' baptism feature a plant

that was not known in Europe

until the late 15th century?

So this corn is

obviously significant because,

I mean, corn is not indigenous

to this region.

It would not have been around

here.

And certainly not at the time

that this is depicting.

Absolutely.

Everything about it is

anomalous.

There certainly would have been

no reason for there to have been

corn included in a baptismal

statue that was supposed to

represent the holy land in the

first century.

And this points, at the

end, westward to Oak Island.

But you know what,

that's kind of interesting.

Are you familiar with the stone

that was found in the Money Pit?

That 90-foot stone with the

inscription on it?

We just had a conversation with

a guy who thinks he found an

alternate translation to it,

and it involves corn.

Really?

Yeah.

So that's a

little interesting there.

Yeah.

What I'm

going to show you today is a

very advanced cipher, beyond

reasonable doubt.

During a recent

visit to Oak Island, Swedish

researcher Daniel Ronnstam

presented Rick, Marty and the

team with his theory that the

carved symbols on the so-called

90-foot stone indicated a dual

cipher.

Using an ingenious decoding

method, Ronnstam believes that

the stone was meant to provide

instructions for shutting off

the ocean water that floods the

Money Pit... and that the method

involves the use of corn.

With its high absorbency, a dry

grain, like corn, would swell

and seal up any booby-trapped

flood tunnels.

Could the inclusion of corn in

this statue of Jesus' baptism

really be a deliberate clue, not

only linking Oak Island to the

Cathar treasure, but also

showing how to retrieve it?

So the church in

Rennes-le-Château is certainly

one of the oddest Catholic

churches I've ever been in, and

I've been in quite a lot of

Catholic churches.

So it's a very strange church,

and I think these things go

deeper than our observations.

I could keep you in

this church all day, or for the

next three days, because there's

so much to see, but there's more

out there.

Yes.

All right, let's

go.

Back on Oak Island,

the dye test is well underway.

While Rick Lagina looks for

evidence from the air...

diver Tony Sampson and veteran

treasure hunter Dan Henskee,

will watch Smith's Cove and

Joudrey's Cove on the northeast

side of the island.

Okay, Dan, I think

we'll just, um, we'll hang out

in this area, see if we can see

anything come up, until we hear

from the guys on the other side,

okay?

On the south shore,

Charles Barkhouse and Jack

Begley are keeping an eye on the

area where, in 1980, Dan

Blankenship reported seeing a

series of so-called "ice holes."

Where's the search area

in your mind, Charles?

I only have a rough idea.

Although the bright

green dye has been pumped down

10-X for two hours now, no sign

of it has appeared in the ocean.

We have everything in

position, and there's still that

window, you know two more

hours, give or take and we're

still hopeful.

You think they saw

any dye on Smith's Cove?

I sure hope so.

I wonder if they've

seen anything on the other side

of the island.

I didn't think it'd

take so long, but...

I had no idea.

Yeah.

I'm hoping that, uh,

since the day is not over, we

may still get lucky.

As the day moved on and

we weren't seeing dye, I think a

little bit of frustration crept

in.

Doesn't look like we've

seen anything else come up here.

Nobody knows what's

going on underground there, and,

uh, channels can open up and

channels can get closed off.

I thought, okay, we

need something, we need

something here.

No, man, we don't

see a thing out here at all.

No dye out there.

Then Fred had an idea

that maybe if we went up higher,

we would get a different

perspective.

And as we were coming around the

island, we both looked down and

went, "Wait a minute!"

What's that down there?

You can see, it looks like

green, uh, green coming out of

there.

Suddenly, Rick

Lagina spots what appears to be

a large patch of green water

just off Smith's Cove.

I saw green in the

water there, so I was excited.

You know, I was in a rush to get

Tony over there.

There!

Right there!

Is it possible that

dye has started to emerge from

one of the so-called flood

tunnels?

While conducting

a dye test at Smith's Cove, Rick

Lagina has spotted a large patch

of green in the water.

How is that for

location, buddy?

If the team can

pinpoint the exact area where

the dye is flowing out, they

believe they can prevent ocean

water from flooding not only

10-X but also the Money Pit.

We see a slight

green... greenish tinge to our

port side.

Copy?

I was excited, but then

Fred said, "Look, there's a

sandbar there.

There's-there's seaweed growing

in there.

And-and at...

Then at that

point, typical of Oak Island,

you know, okay, we're seeing it

and then the falloff to reality.

The reality was it was actually,

uh, seaweed.

Unfortunately, now

there is no sign of

phosphorescent green dye

anywhere.

All we needed was for

Oak Island to behave kindly for

one time, just give us a win.

But... didn't happen.

With daylight

waning and the helicopter

running low on fuel, Rick Lagina

is forced to call an end to the

day's operation.

Okay.

Grab a seat, my friend.

Yeah, and the rope.

And the rope.

It was troubling

because we had followed the

regimen that had achieved

success in the past.

So it begets several questions.

Where did the water go?

Why didn't we see dye out in the

bay?

What did we do wrong?

And how can we fix it?

So what'd we find,

boss?

A lot of... lot of

water.

But no green.

No green water?

No.

We had everything in position.

We thought everything was gonna

go well, and it beat us.

It's that simple.

There's-there's no other way to

categorize it.

It beat us.

The island won again.

The island won again.

Yep.

After seeing

extraordinary evidence linking

the chapel at Rennes-le-Château

with one of the theories

concerning the Oak Island Money

Pit, Marty and Alex Lagina,

along with author and researcher

Kathleen McGowan, have traveled

to the medieval town of

Alet-les-Bains, seven miles

north of Rennes-le-Château, in

search of additional

information.

These ruins here...

Ah.

...date back from

the ninth century.

It was an abbey that was built

here in the 800s, and it was

built on top of an ancient

temple.

What we know here from local

history is, the tradition says

that the most sacred treasures

of both the Christians and the

Jews were held secretly in this

abbey.

So it's believed that the

treasures were brought here.

We're not the only people who

believe that those treasures

were here.

The Nazis came here en masse in

the '40s, looking for the Ark of

the Covenant.

During World War

II, Adolf Hitler believed that

if the Ark of the Covenant

really existed and he could find

it, then he would have the most

powerful weapon in the world.

Believing the ark was at

Alet-les-Bains in France, the

Nazis occupied the town and,

according to some accounts,

began a major excavation there.

But could the simple reason they

never found the ark be that it

had already been moved to Oak

Island centuries ago?

And there's Tobi.

Hey!

I hope you haven't been waiting

long.

No, I only checked some

e-mails.

Aw, good.

Good to see you.

Good to see you.

Hi.

Hi, Tobi.

Good to see you again.

Bonjour.

Where are we?

We are here in the-the

old thermes of Alet-les-Bains.

And here you can see a very good

picture of the symbolism of the

village Alet-les-Bains.

Because you'll see on top, you

find a Templar cross.

There's coming a flash down from

the Templar cross, through angel

wings, into a handshake.

The Knights Templars had given

their knowledge, their wisdom,

from heaven, into a handshake.

A handshake is a secret sign of

the Freemasonry.

Freemasonry?

The worldwide society of

builders that can trace its

origins to the Knights Templar,

the Rosicrucians, and even the

Illuminati?

Ever since the search for

treasure on Oak Island began

more than 200 years ago,

Freemasons, from treasure

hunters Frederick Blair and M.R.

Chappell to Franklin D.

Roosevelt, have played an

important role.

In fact, prominent symbols of

Freemasonry like the letter

G, which stands for the Grand

Architect of the Universe, and

the triangle or pyramid, which

represents balance have been

found on the island.

Where does this

Freemasonry symbol take us?

For our purposes right now, this

leads us to Scotland, which is

where we need to go next.

Why Scotland?

Well, we're going

to Scotland because after the

persecution of the Templars in

France, they took refuge in

Scotland.

The treasure went from here to

Scotland.

There is an extraordinary

tradition of Freemasonry in

Scotland and also some very,

very solid connections that lead

us directly back to Oak Island.

Did the Knights

Templar really take the sacred

treasures they had rescued from

the Cathars first to Scotland

and then to Nova Scotia?

If so, this might explain why

there are so many connections

between Oak Island and the

Ancient Scottish Rite of

Freemasonry.

So Scotland's the

next level.

You ready?

Yes, let's go.

Let's go.

Before we get hit by lightning.

Well, I suppose, Dave,

you want to know why you're up

so early, right?

Yeah.

I mean, it's

still freakin' dark out.

It's the start of a

new day on Oak Island, and Rick

Lagina has asked Dave

Blankenship and Charles

Barkhouse to join him in the war

room for an early morning

conference call.

They will be speaking with Marty

and Alex, who are still in

France.

Hey, guys.

How's it going?

Morning.

Bonjour.

Okay.

Whose brilliant idea was this

anyway?

It's still (bleep) dark here.

I should be horizontal.

I ain't getting

horizontal with you.

How you guys doing?

You been, uh, making progress

there?

We did the dye test.

All right, so what

happened with the dye test?

It's Oak Island.

I'll preface it like that.

Bottom line: it did not work.

So what happened?

We saw literally

nothing, no way to pinpoint any

of the supposed exit areas.

We got no results.

I don't know what to do about

that.

It's like Edison said.

When they asked him, "Don't you

feel bad you've... you haven't

been able to make a lightbulb

work?"

And he said, "What do you mean?

I've not failed.

I found 462 things that don't

work."

And that...

And he's right.

That-that matters.

Well, that's disappointing about

the dye.

You know, even-even

though we... it's one of the few

times where failure on Oak

Island leads-leads us somewhere.

Look, we need to get back into

10-X.

10-X might lead us to the Money

Pit.

I like the idea of

getting a diver to go down

there.

That's fine.

You know what, look, if that

gets us to what... to an answer,

I'm all for it.

All right.

Okay.

Good.

So, we're-we're... we finished

up here in France.

But here's the deal, this has

been really, really cool, okay?

This is great.

The history here is compelling.

I mean, we're chasing something

here that is intriguing and a

little bit more dramatic than I

first thought when we bought an

island off the coast of Nova

Scotia.

I'm quite impressed

that you're impressed.

There clearly was

treasure here, multiple ones.

Yeah.

The ties to Oak Island

are here.

Supposedly, according to

Kathleen, it all comes together

in Scotland.

The information that

you currently possess really

does lead us there?

We want to have a

look, and I don't...

I don't

want to do this without you

guys.

We need the team, put it that

way.

So you need to come.

What do you say?

Get thee to Scotland.

It's exciting because

I'm always chasing after him to

tell him good news or to tell

him, "Hey, you know, this is

interesting.

Let's look at this.

Let's do this."

Now he's calling me and saying,

So heck, yes.

Absolutely.

I'm on a plane.

You know, I wish Rick

had come on the whole trip.

Alex and I were seeing these

really neat things and exciting

things and intriguing things and

old structures, and I thought,

you know, when we go to

Scotland, if this is really

gonna come together, he needs to

be there.

We're in.

One in, all in.

Once in, forever in.

See you there.

That's all I got.

Okay.

We will be there.

We'll be there.

Let's go to

Scotland.

For Rick and Marty

Lagina, this week has been both

frustrating and encouraging.

Even though the dye test failed

to prove the existence of

man-made flood tunnels, the

brothers might still be on the

verge of another incredible

breakthrough, because they might

not only discover where the

treasure is but what it is and

who buried it.

A quest that has lasted more

than 200 years and has already

claimed the lives of six men

might very soon be over.

That is, if the Laginas can

avoid the curse that says seven

must die.

Next time on The Curse of Oak

Island...

We're gonna see here in

Scotland proof that the treasure

went to Oak Island.

We need to connect this

to Oak Island.

Prince Henry

Sinclair in 1398 sailed to the

New World.

That will

ultimately lead to the finding

of the treasure.

It's time to connect the dots.

X marks the spot.

There's a tunnel

here, Jack.

Yeah.

I'm saying dig here.

Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.

Subtitled by Diego Moraes
www.oakisland.tk