The Big Shot with Bethenny (2021–…): Season 1, Episode 6 - Fake It Til You Make It - full transcript

- "Use what you have"
applies to all areas of life.

"Use what you have"
started when I was writing

my first book,
"Naturally Thin."

I tried to forage in the
cabinets and the refrigerator

and put things together
and use what I have.

It's a principle that's
very liberating and freeing,

because it doesn't cost
any money

to just use what's around you.

Sarah?
- Yeah?

- Is this Skinnygirl?
Where is--what is--

I've never seen
this pot before in my life.



So random.

- Would you like to do Astoria
for lunch?

- Okay.

I'm always surprised at people

finding it fascinating

what I eat and what I cook,

because it always takes me
five minutes to make it.

It's never some elaborate
coq au vin or duck a l'orange

or some beef Wellington
or some crazy dish.

It's always just something
that was around

that people are obsessed with.

- Go.
- People always ask

about the avocado
and how soft it should be,

and it should--you know,



it should be like the firmest

possible tush
that someone could have.

Like, it's still gonna
obviously push back.

It's not a fucking rock.

A properly ripe avocado
should feel

like Sarah's 24-year-old tush

versus my 50-year-old tush.

Actually...

Seriously, Sarah, hold on.

- Sarah's gonna feel my tush
and feel this avocado

if they're both the same.
- Okay.

- This is a little mushy.

- Okay.
Avocado first.

- Who's mushier,
me or the avocado?

Be honest, I am.
You can tell the truth.

- Yeah, yeah.
- I am?

All right, thank you.

Like, my tush is probably
like a God damn loaf of bread.

Okay, so this is
my cauliflower crust pizza.

I put it in at 450.

I don't know, I think it was,
like, 15 minutes.

It said 10 to 12.
I can't remember,

but just put it back in
on the other side,

'cause crispy is good, okay?

All right.

I just lost that.
Fucking fuck!

- Well, it's nice to just keep
the momentum going, right?

- Yeah.
- I don't even know what day

of the week we're in, so--
- I know.

- Sunday fun day.
Mimosas brunch.

- Okay.

- I'm so excited to be
in the final four.

I feel like right now Bethenny
and I are vibing really well,

and I am so excited
about this opportunity.

I really want to hit
a home run.

- Oh, phones.
Oh, my God.

- And new journals.

- Oh, boom.
There you go.

- Oh, my God.
You've been saying it.

- There you go.
- Let me check it out.

I've been calling food.
I've been waiting for this.

- Yes.
- I love this.

- You know, I think the more
confident a woman is,

the more people
want to stomp on that, and...

- Yeah.
- That's not what life is...

- We're labeled...
- About.

- "Difficult."
We're labeled...

- Right, yeah.
- "A bitch."

We cannot ever win,
and I feel as though

Bethenny has allowed us
to be who we are.

Successful, strong,
and have an opinion.

- She's here.
- Oh.

- Hello.

- Hello.
- Good morning.

- Then there were four.

all: Yes.
- How's it going?

How is it going?
- Going good.

- Good.
- Good, yeah?

How does it feel just to be
the four of you?

And all women?
- It's real.

- I'm getting a women
empowerment vibe going on.

- Okay.
All right, so as you're seeing,

this is a cookware/bakeware
line that has not launched yet.

So for today's project, each
of you will be given a recipe

and a piece of my cookware line

to showcase its use.

You will photograph
each step of the recipe,

work with a web designer,

- I'm nervous.
I'm panicked.

I am not familiar
with building web pages.

This is out of my element.

- This is a dossier.

This is all
the information you need.

And you will be meeting me
at a test kitchen today, okay?

Bye.
all: Thank you.

- This is not about
being a good cook.

The recipes
couldn't be easier.

This is about clear
and concise communication

about this product,

and that someone can keep
their eye on the prize

and not get lost
in the cooking of it all.

- What does it say?
- "You will each cook

"your recipes with me.
Once your dish is finished,

you must style and photograph
it for the website."

- Watch, Nicole's gonna give me
the hardest one.

As a payback.

You shouldn't be saying things
that you don't know.

I heard that you said that
Brody likes me, and that's like

the most unprofessional
thing you can do...

- Wait, what?
- In this environment.

Whatever.
She's not a competition.

At all.

- I'm gonna give you
coffee syrup muffins

with the muffin pan,
because you love coffee.

- Thank you.
- Okay.

I'm looking at these, like,

complicated chocolate
syrup muffins,

and I'm like,
"I bet Wendy will fuck this up.

Let me give this to her."

I am going to do the marinade,
and Milokssy,

I'm gonna give you
the Skinnygirl Italian salad.

You're gonna cook that
with the sheet pan.

I am going to give you
the jam bars.

You're gonna cook that
with the cake pan, Krystin.

Here you are.

This is not
gonna be an easy one.

This is a multi-faceted project

with several different steps
and components

that we have
to execute properly,

or we are gonna get
the boot from Bethenny.

All right.
- I'm excited about this one.

- Okay.
- All right.

- Yes.
- Thank you.

- All right.
- All right.

- It's nice.

Very nice.
Very nice.

- Look how cute it is!

- Believe this is me.

- Yeah.
This is me.

Amazing.

- Nicole assigns me to make
the recipe for jam bars,

and I have to use
the 9-inch round cake pan.

Same thing.
I am no baker,

so I am a little terrified
but also excited,

'cause my recipe
just takes 30 minutes to make.

I am laser focused on winning.

- I'm Italian.
I'm very Italian.

So I can cook chicken.

Cook steak.
Like, I got this.

I'm great with marketing,
with social media,

with content strategy.

Those are all things
that I do every single day

for my own business,

and I would be so excited
to do them for Bethenny.

- I do get
a very easy recipe,

which is a salad,
and I had to pop popcorn

to make a cheesy lemon
zest crouton for the recipe

using the cookie sheet.

- I'm not a baker.

I don't really experiment
with, uh, recipes.

I'm a little nervous
that I'm just gonna, like,

mess the recipe up
and get stuff all over me,

and then obviously
make a fool out of myself.

- Hi.
- Hi.

- Hi.
How are you?

- You all look so cute
in your aprons.

Oh, you chose not to do
an apron, Krystin.

Aren't you worried
about your outfit, Krystin?

- Nope.
- Okay, cool.

Today, I wanna see how
the sausage is getting made.

How do they work
with each other?

How are they using their time?

Are they neat?
Are they messy?

Are they grace under pressure?

Use me to promote
the products.

No one can sell the products
better than I can.

So what are you making?
- Okay.

I am making the Skinnygirl
Italian salad, so--

- Are you gonna make these
into croutons?

- Yes.
- Yeah, that was sort of

what I've been wanting to do.
I haven't done this yet.

I've been wanting to do it.
- Okay.

- So what are you doing?

- I would like to do
chicken two ways.

- So you're making it two ways?

Nicole can be overly ambitious

in trying to impress.

If you try to please
everybody, you please nobody,

so you have to be focused,
and I feel like Nicole

needs to not bite off
more than she can chew.

This is definitely
not a cup of butter.

- Well, it's cubed,
so--I don't know.

So--it's cold and cubed,

so I didn't know
how much--I'm not a baker,

so I don't know how much--
- No, no, no.

But you need to know,
'cause you gotta bake.

I'm not looking for a chef,
but it wouldn't hurt

to have an idea
of how to handle the kitchen.

- I'm confused.
Is it 6 tablespoons

of oil and butter?

Or one or the other?
- Either.

Baking is very precise.
- Okay.

- So we can't just
screw around.

- Oh, shit.

Sorry.

- What I have
is Skinnygirl popcorn,

but we're gonna make a salad
with low-calorie croutons

using what I have.

I've taken chicken breasts.

Then we're going
to marinade it.

- Whew.
My God, so stressful.

- Is there microwave
popcorn going?

Is it done?

- My popcorn is done.
- I smell burning.

No, it burned.
How long did you do it for?

- The popcorn, and it's
1 minute and 30 seconds.

I burned the popcorn.
Oh, I didn't burn the popcorn.

The microwave
burned the popcorn.

- I had the idea that we could
do the vegetables--

- You gotta peel the carrots
before you cook with them.

- Oh, damn.

Okay.
I will get new ones.

- I feel like peeling carrots

that look like they
were dragged

from behind a car on the road
would be a basic principle.

Call me a reactionary,
but I enjoy my carrots

sans hair and brown doody
on the outside of them.

- Ahh!

- Wendy has never been
on the inside

of a kitchen in her life.

Okay, all right.
- Awesome, thank you.

- I don't think she's ever
picked up a spoon,

but she had me shoot all my
products on the products wall.

- Yes.
Work it.

My goal with Bethenny's
not to have her babysit me.

I just want her to kind of
jump in when I need her.

Perfect.
- Okay.

- I just kind of want to show
her that I have it together

and stay calm.

- Got it, got it,
got it, got it.

I'm sweating to death

because I picked
the absolute worst day

to wear a completely
leathered-down outfit.

It was a flaming hot mess.

I'm sweating like an animal.
- Krystin is wearing

an all-leather suit
in the kitchen!

- I'm so hot.

- She's just running
around sweating,

and I don't know
what she's doing.

So who's ready?
- I'm ready for you.

- Okay.
- I kind of centered myself,

got it back together,
and thought about the angle.

The angle was a web page,
so I started

to just get my mind around
getting the photos

that I needed
for the recipe to flow.

- So I want to finally
incorporate the croutons

for the final product.

- Good.

- I feel as though
I did the salad.

I followed all the steps.
I took all the photos.

I still feel like
I'm missing something,

and I don't know what it is.

- All these happy people
eating salad.

Okay.
You always see pictures

all over Insta of happy people
eating happy salads.

She didn't focus
on the sheet pan.

What?
- Can I get a quick shot...

- Sure.
- Of you? Thank you.

- I'm a perfectionist,
so it's driving me insane

that I'm overlooking,
or I think I'm overlooking,

and I'm beating
myself up right now.

And I'm gonna lose sleep
tonight over this, for sure.

- Hey, what are you doing?

- I'm just seeing
if this burner works.

- That's my workstation.
- Oh, shit.

- You can work right next--
- No, because

she's literally gonna be here.

I'm gonna put my stuff here.

- Then, like,
we have to find...

- What do you mean,
"That one doesn't work"?

- They're not turning on.
- Ugh.

- I love to make
my life difficult.

This is kind of just
like a running theme

in the world of rose.
Am I missing something?

Like, what is going on here?

So let's use that one.

- But I wanna set this up
as though you're home,

and you're--you just served
the salad for dinner.

- I have a wine brand,
and that is not it.

- I thought this was one.
Oh, okay.

- No, no, no.
- All right, apologies.

- Nope.
- Okay.

- Back on the chicken network,
what's happening over here?

- "On the chicken network."
- Do these stoves work?

Or we don't know?
- I don't know.

- Do you wanna put this
in the microwave?

- This is a
microwave-safe plate?

- Yes.
- I can microwave it inside

the Skinnygirl thing too.
It won't fit, probably.

- No, you can't put a pan
in the microwave.

- It'll blow up on you.
- That's a horrible idea.

I was not gonna do that.

Never tried to microwave
my food.

- You cannot put a pot in--
- Okay, okay, sorry.

I've never, like,
microwaved my food.

I would normally cook
on the stove.

- No, no, no.
I know, I know, but--

- Okay, so--

Those aren't heating up, so--
- Who doesn't know

that you can't put a pan
in a microwave?

- Oh, my muffins
look like crap.

- Yeah,
they're a little overdone,

but I think it's okay.
- Okay.

- This, though, looks like

a bad breast implant.

- I know.

Perfect.
- Okay.

- Oh, my goodness.
Someone turned the oven off.

What the fuck?

- Wait, am I gonna be, like,
buried in a box in this room?

When are we finishing this?
I feel like I live here.

What's happening?
Like, am I gonna die here?

This is, like--
what's gonna happen?

It's too much.
- Now, I'm actually

running out of time
to get to the point

where I wanna photograph
the final product.

Yeah.
I wasn't happy about that,

but at the same time,
shit happens,

and you have
to try to figure it out.

- You're broiling it?
- I don't have a choice.

I need to, like, get--
- Is the jam bar jamming?

- Oh, it ain't cooking.
The oven was off.

The oven got turned off,

so I'm just broiling it,
'cause at this point...

- You just want it
to look good.

- I just want it to look good.

- What a shit show.

You burnt the popcorn.

The muffins look
like saggy titties.

The chicken is raw,

and the jam bars
are fucking mush.

- They sabotaged me.
- It's a shit show.

I have literally--this is
a complete four-way shit show.

- I have to put
something together

in order to photograph

and get something up
for the web page.

- This is like a diaper.

This is my diaper cobbler.
This is like poopy diaper.

- I'm sweating even more,
because I'm like,

"Oh, my God.
Does she think this is shit?"

Like, "How is this
gonna factor in that

I didn't make sure
that the bars were cooked?"

- What are we like pretending
that this is, though?

Do you know what I mean?
It looks like sort of

like a weird mound of meatloaf
covered in blueberries.

I was just trying to think
of what I would eat.

The titty city muffins,
the blueberry meatloaf,

or the chicken sushi.

Chicken sashimi.
It's all the rage.

The salmonella special today
is chicken sushi.

Okay.
- So just like you're, "Oh!"

You're eating it.
It's delicious.

- "Mmm, oh, my God, yay."

- "It's not terrible."

- It's amazing.
- And I feel good about it.

I feel like I have
quality photos.

I feel like there
is a flow and a method

to my madness today.

- Yummy.
- Delicious.

Love you.

And you will see that

once my web page
hits the screen.

You're so good.
Perfect, thank you.

- I feel really bad
that I mixed up the wine.

- Why?
- 'Cause I know in the loft,

that you told us that you're
launching a new wine line,

and I thought that was yours.
I overlooked, and--

- Don't worry about it.
Don't worry.

We're all gonna survive.
- Okay, thank you.

- Don't worry about it.

Well, that was interesting,

because she's obsessing
over that one thing,

which she can only be
in her head about that.

And literally, Nicole--

this kitchen could go on fire,
and Nicole, tomorrow,

would just treat it
as a new day and just be okay.

And in this job,
you have to be really strong.

Like, when these muffins look
like the bottom of my heel,

the thing is, you gotta--
the show must go on.

You gotta keep moving,
but Milokssy's

obsessing over the wine.

Like, she's been in her head
the whole time.

If she knew that
I was thinking about her

not having me holding the pans,

she might be, like,
in a padded cell tonight,

like, obsessing.

So we're just seeing different
sides of people

as it gets down
to the wire now.

What's going on
in this shit show?

- Um, well, I got--
- That does not--what happened?

- It is cooked.
- Okay.

- I'm gonna plate it.

I'm just used to the fact
that every single time

we do one of these projects,
stuff goes wrong.

Let me get some pictures
of you finishing these.

So this is just
par for the course.

I know that I have
to figure out a way

to make this work
on Bethenny's schedule,

because if my project
delays her,

then I'm gonna be
the one in trouble.

- This I don't understand.

- Well, it's supposed to be
a modern salad.

- Mm-hmm.
It's certainly modern.

Okay, all right.
Am I here, I'm in this?

- Yeah.
Can I get just a photo of you?

- Sure.
- Despite the fact

that my chicken
would probably kill a horse,

I do not feel terrible
about my content.

I shoot content for a living.
This is, like, what I do.

And my pictures
look pretty good.

But wouldn't poke that chicken
with a 10-foot pole.

Great.
- Okay.

You have what you need?
- Yes, thank you.

- Everybody has what they need?
All right.

Ladies, so, tomorrow,

you'll have time to work
on your copy

and work with a web designer

on how to create
this delicious web content.

- Awesome.
- Perfect.

- And nutritious.
- Thank you.

- Thanks, Bethenny.
- Great, thank you.

- You're welcome.

Bye.
- Bye.

- Thank you.
Have a good night.

That food was inedible,
obviously,

but you know what?
Let's see.

The proof is in the pudding.
Let's see what they look like,

because literally,

there's nothing in here that
I would give my dog to eat.

I don't know, good thing
I'm not hiring a chef.

All right.

After you.
- Thank you.

- Well, that wasn't here
yesterday.

Maybe there's more information.
There's a new dossier.

- Oh, nice.

Is it new?
- "Good morning.

"Today, you will continue
to work in the loft

"to write your copy
and edit your photos.

"You will each meet and work
with a web designer

to create your web page
layout."

- We have to get the copy done.
I imagine at the point

that we are talking to them,
that copy should be done.

So that's what I'm gonna
get started with.

I'm excited, I'm gonna
give them variations

of how they could use
the recipe,

which will kind of cover up
for the fact

that there's no bars to be had

in the visuals of this post.

- I actually started a blog
a couple of years ago,

so this is right
in my wheelhouse.

I actually love blogging,
so, like, given my background,

I think I know
a little bit more about SEO

and conversion optimization,
and shareability, etcetera,

than other people who don't
have digital experience.

- At this point,
this is the most challenging

project for me, because I've
never created a web post.

I have no idea
how I'm gonna start,

how I'm gonna execute.

This is a first for me,
so I'm freaking out.

This is it, this is outside
of my comfort zone,

so I wanna make sure
that I have everything, like,

listed down what she wants.

So I hope, at the end of
the day, it makes sense,

and that I'm able to portray
that vision

to the web designer.

- All right, ladies.
Time's up.

I'm not going first,
so somebody's taking first.

- This is not my world.
I don't feel comfortable, so--

- I'll go first.
- Thank you, Wendy.

- No one was gonna
take the initiative,

and I feel like everyone
wants to play it safe

at some point.

Hi.
- Hi.

- Nice to officially
and virtually meet you.

I'm Wendy.
How's it going?

- So good.
I am Tatum.

- I sent you my road map,

an idea of how I think we
should structure the web post.

Did you have a chance
to look at it?

- Yes, I have it pulled up,
in front of me,

so I can share
my screen with you...

- Fantastic.
- And we can talk about

what you've already sent me...

- Okay.
- And your vision.

- My goal is not
to make her confused.

I just wanna be
very precise and concise

with what I have to build
on this web post.

You know, I put a lot of time
and effort up front

to make sure that she could
just kind of replicate that.

And then I just added
a few finishing touches.

Yes.
I love it, actually.

You got the idea of the header
picture, which is fabulous.

It looks like my notes
were pretty clear right?

I just hope that I, you know,

got my point across with my web
developer, and that's it.

I can't--it's out
of my hands now.

- Did you get everything
that I sent you?

- I did.
- Okay, cool, great.

Good to know, okay,
scroll back up for me, sweetie.

We'll start at the top.

And I'm very specific
about web design,

'cause I have experience here.
There's three tenets.

If you wanna write
these down,

these aren't anywhere else.
I'm not sure that everyone else

here has experience
in web development like I do.

Conversion optimization
is king.

You'll see that reflected
in the flow chart.

Important for me, once again,
with conversion optimization.

So then you already
get how to do--so, hold on.

Let's go back up to the header.
You seem brilliant,

so I hate to even
remind you of this.

Bethenny is a stickler
for typos,

so please.
I proofread my thing.

I'm 99% sure
there are no typos,

'cause that will be my ass
for that typo.

- Yes, awesome.
Thank you.

- Nice to meet you, sweetie.

- Yeah, okay.
Go ahead and get rid of that.

If we need to circle
back there, we will.

We can worry
about sizing later,

but maybe that needs to be
just a little bit bigger.

- I'm not a mom yet,

but I think we all change
at some point.

I mean, you can speak
from your experience--

- Ah, it was very intense,

because I almost lost
my first child.

- Yeah.
- Oh! What happened?

- Normal, healthy pregnancy,
and then giving birth,

his heart rate dropped.

I needed
an emergency C-section.

20 minutes later, I'm like,
"Where's my baby?"

And they're like,
"We'll take you to him."

And I'm like--I'm thinking
I'm going to the nursery.

I go to the ICU--NICU,

and my son has tubes up
his nose, down his throat,

fighting for his life.

- Ooh.
- Oh, my God, I am so sorry.

- Yeah, like, I was, like,
trying to get up, and crying,

and like, "Give me my baby,"
and I couldn't do anything.

So I felt horrible,
'cause I was, like--

he was fine ten minutes ago,
and now, he's about to die, so.

This experience has showed me
I'm a big, old crybaby.

I am always crying, and my God.
Like, I need to stop.

- Bud!
- Hey.

- I'm back, I'm back, I'm back.

- How was it?

- Uh, I pushed it to the limit.
I felt like time went by fast

for me, but she is great.

She's amazing, and you're next.

- You got this.
- You got this.

Get out there.

- Good luck, Milokssy.
- Thank you.

- I still felt like--I felt
like y'all had way more time.

When you're up there it feels--
- You there for--

you were there--
- Was I there for a long time?

- We had, like,
several tears shed

while you were up there,
so you were up there

for a while.
- Really?

What were you guys
tearing about?

- Well, this is the first time
I am doing this,

so I'm very nervous.

I know the other girls
have worked on websites before,

so you have to walk me
through this like a baby.

- Yes, just be sure
to be clear with any edits

and your specific vision.

- People are so quick
to put your kid in, like...

- In a box.
- ADHD, ADD,

and I'm like, "No.
Every kid learns different,"

which is why I always do, like,

alternative learning
and experiential learning

additionally with my kids,
'cause I'm, like--

that's just not--
I didn't like it.

I didn't know
there was another option.

Now, I'm a grown person,
and I know

that there are other ways
to educate your kids, you know,

that I have the luxury
of trying.

- Right.
My mom certainly did not.

- "Here's the rules."

- Your mom was probably busy.

- My mom was working two jobs.

So I was trying to
figure it out on my own.

- Yeah, my mom too.
She worked a lot too--

- Was Dad ever in the picture?
- No.

- I don't think
I've asked you that.

- Nope, nope.
Mm-mm.

- Me either, not really.
- Do you have any type

of communication
with him now, or no?

- No, he passed away already.

- Oh, I'm so sorry
to hear that.

- So without any relationship
really?

- Yeah.
- Oh, wow.

- Really?
- Mm-hmm.

- How old were you
when he passed?

- Um, now you're gonna make me
teary-eyed.

- I'm sorry.
- Don't make me cry, oh, Jesus.

- You know I lost my father,
so I'm just genuinely asking.

- 11.
- Oh, young.

Oh, I'm so sorry.
And so you, like--

- I wish I had a tissue.
- You didn't get to say goodbye

or really
get to know him, at all?

- Nope.

- Does Mom tell you
stories of him,

or did they not have--
- No, they didn't have

a good relationship, so--

- I'm sorry.
- No, it's fine, it's okay.

I am a person that
internalizes a lot of things.

It's not that I don't like
to display weakness.

It's just it's no one else's
business to know my struggles.

I need to just internalize
that, and grind it through,

and never take the time to,
like, process things

and talk to people about it.

- You're gonna make me cry.
I can't--

- Stop!
Stop staring at me.

- Well, I just--like, I haven't
seen you emotional like this.

- Well...
- So, this is an emotional--

- Stop crying!
- I'm trying!

- You're crying.
You're crying.

- You're making me cry.
- Okay.

- Now my nose
is gonna start running,

and it's gonna get
really ugly in here.

- Nicole, you're not asking
any more questions.

- Okay, okay.
I'm done.

- Zip your mouth, please.
- I'm done.

- Thank you.
Yeah, I don't know.

I just--I hold things in.
- Mm.

- So--
- It's tough like that.

I feel like, as women, we feel
like we have to be strong.

- Do you love Christmas?
- Yes, I do.

Nothing better
than Christmas songs.

- How many gifts do you think

we've done, 100?
- Yeah.

- All right, what is our plan?

- So these are all set to go.

Well, we're gonna pack 'em up
on the car tonight.

- But what about those right
there that I put together--

- Yeah, these are all
getting added.

- Those are all accounted for?
Okay.

- You're delivering tonight?
- Yes, right?

- He's gonna take a few, yeah.
- You're like Santa Claus.

You are?
- Yeah, Santa Claus.

- We have to get him
a Santa suit.

- Wait, you start tonight
when everyone's sleeping?

- Start tonight.
Yep, yep.

- When everyone's sleeping?
- Coming through the chimney.

- Okay.
All right.

It feels under control.
That I will say.

- Sarah, you ever seen this?

- No.
- Watch.

Stop.

- He's twerking.
- He's good.

- He is good.
Look at him go.

- Can you twerk?
- Yeah.

What?

- You really can get your butt

to move separate
from your body on its own?

How?
All right.

Listen, where are the dogs?
Biggie, Smalls.

Hi.
Hi, my doggies.

- Wait, let me get a good--
- Do you like the hat,

or would you
rather reindeer ears?

- I like the hat.
- Like the hat, yeah.

- Correy a great presence.
He's fun, he's sweet.

He takes some good
social media pictures,

and he's a pleasure to be
around.

But I have like
ten different outfits.

I have, like, everything.
Should I just put 'em all on?

Just knock it out right now?
- Yeah, let's knock it out.

- All right, let's just
knock it out, okay.

- Look at this.
Perfect.

- One, two, three.

That's good.

- Oh, my God.
That's really cute.

- Yep.
It was nice.

- You're not bad
at social media.

- So you guys were talking
about daddy issues,

but no one's telling me
what brought on tears.

Like, what did I miss?
- So I asked Wendy,

"Was your dad around?,"
whatever,

and I'm putting the pieces
together in my head...

- Mm-hmm.
- And I'm thinking, well,

there were years
where my dad just, like,

decided that he was too busy.

He came back, and so
we were close...

- Wow.
- All the rest of his life.

Makes me tear.
- Is he still alive?

- See--no, he passed.
He passed a couple years ago.

- I'm sorry.
- It's okay.

It's good.
I am fortunate.

Think about
their experiences though.

Like, Wendy's dad passed
when she was 11.

She didn't get to know him.
I'm fortunate,

because it was--you know,
he beat cancer a couple times,

but unfortunately,
cancer usually gets you.

- Was it--the cancer
that he had--was it all

just thyroid cancer
coming back, like, reoccurring?

Or did it spread
to other places?

I haven't shared this
with anyone,

but I was diagnosed with
thyroid cancer last year.

- And you had it removed?
- Fully removed.

There's some mass
that's growing again,

but we don't know what it is.
- Hmm.

- Where is it?
- In my thyroid.

- Oh, my God, Wendy.
- Let's be in faith.

- Yeah.
- Let's be in faith,

and we're gonna send you
positive prayers, for sure.

- My health scare has been
the biggest wake-up call

that any 25-year-old
could get.

And so for me, it's been one
of those, like, crazy shakeups

where it's like,
"This is your time."

You just have to go
for what you want,

and, like, never feel
sorry for yourself.

- Hey, sweetie.
Come here.

- This was a beautiful
evening, guys.

- I think we needed it.
- I have to say.

I know all of you ladies
so much better.

Tomorrow's a new day.

- We have an elimination
tomorrow.

- I'm packing my shit.
- Just letting you guys know.

- Tomorrow's gonna be
really hard.

- Oh, yeah.
- Especially after today.

- I know.
It's gonna be rough.

- Group hug.
- Thank you.

- Group hug!
- Thanks.

- This is gonna suck
after tomorrow.

- It really is.

I'm really--I might cry.

- That last project
was one for the books.

But I'm not just saying
this for effect.

There's nothing in that room

that my daughter
couldn't have made.

- Honestly, we were all
a total hot fucking mess.

Either we're all going home,
or no one's going home.

Like, there's actually a decent
chance that she's like,

"You all are useless to me."

- I thought
they had basic, basic,

very remedial skills
in the kitchen.

Contrary to Nelly's words,
it is not getting hot in here.

If your oven's not on, you just
know, 'cause it's not hot.

- Wendy, do you want to come
with me over there

to just have a private sidebar?
- Sure, sure.

- Okay.

How are you feeling?
- I feel good.

- So I wanna pull you aside,

because I am grateful
that you shared

everything
that you shared last night.

I feel a much deeper connection
with you.

All the bullshit aside,
you've hurt my feelings before.

I'm sure I've offended you
before, whatever.

- I think
you don't have malice.

Sometimes you say things
and you don't mean it

in a wrong way, but it--

like, you don't know
how I'm gonna receive it.

Similar with me

telling you things.
- Of course.

- I think maybe
we're so different--

- We have different styles.
- Yeah, of communicating

what we want to communicate,

and I think that's where
we clash, you know?

- For sure. I mean,
you have a lot at stake.

- Yeah.
- Now, I really fully get that,

but I think we can both agree,

like, we understand each
other's differences now.

- Yeah.
- 100%.

You know, Nicole's Nicole.

she's always been super chatty.

We might not get along
all the time,

but it was very nice to see
that gesture, and...

it was nice.

- Can we hug?
- Perfect, yes.

- One more, for good measure.
- One more hug.

- 'Cause honestly, you may not
have a chance to hug me again.

We don't know...
- Thank you.

- What's going on here.
- Yeah.

I appreciate you taking the
time to chat with me today.

- Of course, and I just
want you to know I'm here.

So, that extends beyond
this job interview.

- Thank you.

- You look fabulous.

- Yes.
- Thank you.

- That's the Bethenny red.
- How is it going?

- It's going.
- Good.

Okay, yeah.

- Okay.
All right.

How do you all feel?
You look nervous.

- I'm horrible.
- You are?

- I'm ready to faint, like...
- Really?

- Holding my breath.

- Somebody's going home,
and that is--

- Oh, it's getting
more real now?

- I'm really happy
you don't have salmonella,

if I'm just being honest.

Like, my chicken
situation was--

- Oh, you're all
obsessing over it?

all: Yes.

- I am confident
I'm going to make up

for what I lacked
in the kitchen

with the overall vision
for this project.

- This was shocking.

I didn't realize I was gonna
have to get the paddles,

and I was walking into triage.

We burned popcorn.

You were like, "We're just
gonna put the pan

in the microwave."
I'm like, "What?"

We all know that, like,
metal and microwaves--

- Yeah.
- Not so much.

And you have never
baked before.

You had never seen
a measuring spoon before,

like a cup or a mixer.

We were, like,
on another planet.

- I mean,
I don't have that stuff.

I just, like, literally a knife
and a cutting board.

- And what about you, Krystin?
- I was a sweaty mess.

I picked the worst day
to wear leather,

so I was dripping
with the ovens.

Stoves.

- Well, your oven
wasn't even on.

- Well, apparently, yes.
Well, I thought it was on.

- I'm shocked.
That's just a separate thing.

Do you think
most people can't cook?

I don't know.

But this project
is not about cooking.

That's the small part.

Okay.
Who's first?

- This is me.
- Okay.

I am holding the baking pan.

"Breakfast, lunch,
dinner, snacks.

"Quick and easy jam bars
for moms on the go.

"Skinnygirl sugar-free
preserves and our 9-inch

round cake pan."
Nice, pull.

And you can click
on it to buy it?

- Yes.
- It's pretty good,

I have to say.
"Shop now, shop now."

- To the left, those
white circles--they move

with you down the page,
so at any point,

you could do sharing.
- These things over here?

- Yeah, they would be social
sharing icons there.

- What does that mean?
- So that means, like,

it makes it easier
to share that content.

- Oh, When you say send
to somebody--

- Smart.
- Excellent.

This is very good.
- Oh, that's cute.

- That's adorable!

And I'm holding the product.
- That's nice.

- Yeah, it looks like it could
be my kitchen.

This is excellent.

Everyone's getting
a little nervous now, right?

- Oh, yeah.
- That last shot is great.

- And a little sexy leg
didn't hurt anybody.

I mean it's literally an A.
It's excellent.

All right. Who's next?
- Wendy.

- Yeah it's me.
- Wendy, all right.

"To make our delicious muffins,
here is what you need.

"Please preheat your oven
to 400 degrees now,

before jumping the steps
below."

"Jumping the steps below"?

What does that mean?
- Jumping to the steps below.

- It's just
a little conversational,

you know what I mean?
It's just sort of like,

"Please preheat your oven now,

before jumping
the steps below."

Hey, add a bit of splash,
if you feel like it.

If not, you know, I mean,
it's just a little relaxing.

"When mixing you wet
and dry ingredient"--what?

"Your wet," yeah.
This is a crisis.

Okay.
"When mixing you wet."

Now, we're in a porn site.
Yeah.

- I guess my grammar

and just my very chatty nature
seems to be very comical.

- "It's time to see
make it hot"?

Were you drunk?
- What?

- What's going on?
"It's time to see make it hot."

Is that the movie
with Marilyn Monroe?

"Some Like it Hot"?

Her oven doesn't even
fucking work,

so some like it cold.
Sorry.

- It's definitely too casual.

I may pee my pants--

- At least
I'm making you laugh.

Yeah, let's--
Y'all need that, probably.

At least I can laugh.

What?
I gotta pee.

Listen, you have to laugh.

If you don't laugh,
you're gonna cry.

Ah, the product wall.
That was good,

and you got a picture of me
with the product.

"Our cookware is a new addition
to our Skinnygirl line."

That's good, 'cause all
the information is important.

That's what we're promoting.

- So my goal was to kind of
incorporate everything

that we know about you,
so we had your latest podcast.

We had those icons
with the product

so people can click on them.
- It actually is good.

You did bring
in the whole brand,

and you said you can't do
this recipe without this pan,

and that's what I'm selling.
That was excellent.

All right.
Milokssy.

Well, that's a good photo.

The photography's excellent.

It's probably
the best photography.

The grammar is good.
The writing is good.

That makes me happy.

You promoted the popcorn
and the dressing.

There's no other click-ons
on the right or any other stuff

to click through to buy,
and you don't show the pan.

- Fuck.

- The point of it was to sell

the bakeware and cookware.

- I knew I forgot something.

- This is an announcement.

This is, like, a moment.
It's a new product.

It doesn't let me know there's
something to, like, talk about.

- Got it.

- Let's do now Nicole.

- So this is a modern 2.0 web
design where it's interactive.

You scroll to the right
to see other items,

instead of everything
being below the fold.

Conversion optimization is my
#1 priority here, also SEO.

You'll notice that Skinnygirl
is used multiple times

on this page
with everything linked.

Shareability
and social media links.

It's called
"Skinnygirl Cooking School,"

because it's an entire show

to live within
your platform of Bethenny.

And then selling
the products on those floors.

- All right,
it's too much right now.

I'm in school now.
I need to be...

- Okay.
- On the website

and just understand it
by looking at it.

- Okay.
- I think it's weird.

The photography, you literally
cut off the product.

We have a half a piece of
chicken and half a salad.

- Yeah.
It's two photos.

I wrote in my instructions
for the graphic designer

to crop only the food portion.
I don't know why she cropped...

- All right, we can't--listen.
- The product.

- If my aunt had balls,
she'd be my uncle.

We're here.
- Okay, yep.

- Okay.
It's not that easy to read.

The font is small.
- Yep.

It's smaller than it should be.
It was not this small when...

- Okay, okay.
- We were looking at it.

- There are things
that were done here

that weren't asked to be done.
It's supposed to the Bethenny--

- I know, but I'm sure
everybody here can say that.

Did you all have
the same designer?

all: Yeah.
- Can't--excuses.

Nobody cares
how the sausage gets made.

Okay, "what you'll need
is black better"?

"An 1/8 teaspoon
of black better."

- Okay, so I wrote
"black pepper."

I'm gonna show you...
- Okay, okay.

- Because everything's
done wrong.

- All right.
- So this is very weird.

Now, there's a million typos,
and there aren't any

in my Word doc,
and I'll verify that.

- Well, there are the pans.
- Mm-hmm.

- So that makes me happy.
I like the left to right.

I like the concept
of "Skinnygirl Cooking School."

- That's a nice action shot.
- Oh, it's a video.

- Oh, and it's a video?
- It's a video.

Correct.
- Well, that was good.

No one else did a video.
That's good.

- And my vision for you was
much bigger than just

a website and a blog.
It's we do this on IG Live.

We bring on other celebrities.

We increase the reach.
We record the show.

- Here's the thing.
Everybody has an idea.

It's the execution.
You have to be super clear.

This is all about
communication.

So I appreciate
everyone's effort.

I really do.
I need to take my glass of wine

and just take a second
to, like, digest everything.

- Well, ladies, good job.

- She put a word in there
that was not in my document.

- But didn't she
copy and paste?

- Yes, and that's why
I'm sketched out.

Hey.

- Hey, you there?
- Hey.

Yeah, I'm here.
- Okay, can you please contact

the web designer
and have them get me,

like, what they gave
to the designer?

It's really Nicole.
She has a recipe on it.

She's blaming, like,
the web designer,

because it should say
"black pepper,"

but on her thing,
it says "black better."

- I can show you my document.
I would love to show it to you,

'cause I proofread it twice.
There is no way.

- And you told her
the font you wanted?

- Absolutely,
and then she shows

this hard-to-read
little tiny italic thing.

I would have never approved
something so difficult to read.

- I didn't ask her
to proofread,

so I'm gonna own up to that.

- I would just say
take ownership

for whatever you did.

- Whose was your
favorite, though?

- Krystin's was excellent.

Krystin doesn't even need
to really be in there.

Krystin?

Can you come down here?

- Yes, I can.

- You got it.
You have the best one.

- How are you?

- A little nervous.

- So, your page
was really great.

You had me using the product.

You took my note
to fix the way it looked,

and you did it in your own way.

The end product was really,
really good,

so you're not leaving today.

- Oh, thank God.
- Okay?

- Jesus Christ.
Sorry.

- Okay, you can go upstairs.
You're not going home.

- Okay.

- She's going upstairs?
- She's doing up.

- Holy cow.
- She's probably safe.

- Are you safe?
- Yeah, she is.

- Okay, good.
- Yeah, she is.

- Thank you.

- If only we can compare
our actual draft.

- Same, same.
Literally.

- That would be, like,
the best thing.

- "Show bottom half of both end
photos of the dishes."

Oh, my God.

I am so glad that I have
the actual documentation

that this is what Nicole sent
to the web designer.

You have to be accountable,
and you can see her

totally crumbling
under pressure

and getting nervous
and being paranoid

and blaming.

And Nicole has been blaming
since the beginning.

- Oh, shit.
She's coming.

- Deep breaths.

- Okay.

This is not about
just what happens today.

This is a holistic experience.
This is a holistic job.

Milokssy, you talked about

you don't want to take
a big risk with my brand,

so where is that line,
and what risks will you take?

And sometimes you just have
to make a decision,

and I'm not there.

Wendy,
you had everything there,

because you wanted
to do everything,

so there's a balance there too.

You took too many risks.

Milokssy took too few risks.
Okay.

Nicole, I like that you
took chances with the left

and right slider.
There's a lot of information.

It's--we had simplicity.
We had too little information.

We had too much information,
and confusing information.

- It wasn't like this
when I designed it with her.

I get that you can't read it.
The vision did not--

- It's not about the font,
by the way.

It doesn't really matter.

It matters, like,
what the result is,

and we don't do a lot of, like,
complaining or explaining.

And we don't do any blaming.

You know, the web designer
isn't here to speak

for themselves,
but, very clearly, it says,

"Balsamic chicken two ways.
Photos.

"Show bottom half of both
end photos of the dishes

"combined into one pic,
and show

the Skinnygirl dressing
with the carrots on top."

- Yeah, and that's what it
should have been.

Half the product.
- I don't even understand it,

so how the hell is she
supposed to understand it?

This is exactly what you sent.
"Black better."

It's literally there,
in black and white.

- I did not write that to her.

I proofread
that document three times.

I have a meticulous memory, but
I am not gonna argue with you.

I understand your concern
that my website

did not come out as planned.

- Well, so, I have a difficult
decision to make.

Nicole, I don't think
it's the right job for you.

I think you are an amazing,
colorful,

interesting person
who is very creative

and has a lot to express.

And I think that this job
will confine you.

And there might not be
enough room for what you

wanna do with your life
and what I wanna do.

I can tell that
I would be putting you

in more of a narrow box.

You changed,
and you matured here.

Honestly, you've honestly
matured here

into a different person.
And everybody here thinks that.

- Thank you, awesome.
- Live and breathe and blossom.

- Thanks, guys.
- Proud of you.

- Heart you.
I'll miss you guys.

- You did a great job.
- Thank you.

Bethenny feels that she'd be
putting me in a box,

and honestly,
it's not the first time

I've ever been told that.

I don't think that
I'm the right person to be her

right hand, running around
with her all day, every day.

I'd probably drive her nuts.
Let's be honest, you know?

I think that somebody else
that's upstairs is probably

the best fit to be
her right hand.

- Truthfully, that was not
a decision

based on this one project.

It was not that easy to decide.

You know, I'm always surprised.

I thought yours
was going to be the best,

because you took the pictures,
you know,

and you were organized.

I thought you were
gonna be a disaster.

I never walked in here
knowing what's going to happen.

I'm always surprised.

It's getting more
and more intense,

and I have a couple
of big things planned.

This is the first time

I feel like I am looking
at three candidates

who could actually
hold this job.

And they each have totally
different personalities,

totally different experience,

and totally different
skill sets.

And now, the game has begun.

Thank you so much.
- Thank you.

- Thank you.
- Awesome, thank you.

And thank you three
for not making excuses

and not blaming,
'cause you know what?

There's always gonna
be something wrong.

Something's always
gonna go wrong.

Someone's always gonna
screw something up.

There's no--just figure it out
and fix it,

you know what I mean?

The next time
I see these ladies,

it'll be for
their final project.

Someone in this room is being
given the keys to the kingdom,

so who's got what it takes?

Who has the guts to do this job
and be my VP of Operations?

- Love it.
- I'm proud of you girls.

- I am so proud of you guys.
- You guys, we've come so far.

- These are three
strong women

who's got what it takes
to be my VP of Operations.

It could be any of these women.

I feel like
I'm on "The Bachelor,"

and I fucked one guy,
I gave the other one a ring,

and I married the third one.

- Oh, no.
The roses!

- Okay, 50.
Let's do this.

all: Happy birthday!

- Yeah.
This is not like just a job.

- No.
- No, this is the job.

- All my life,
I've been told no.

- I'm here to get what I want.

- The three of you are
extraordinary women.

This is the moment.
This is the moment.

I see myself in all of them.

That was the best experience
of my life.