Moonshiners (2011–…): Season 8, Episode 12 - Unfinished Business - full transcript

Tonight from an
Undisclosed location,

The moonshiners risk it all
To meet for a secret summit

And there's a lot of
Business to reckon with.

After a year in jail, tickle's
Back in culpepper county

And tim's hatching a
Plan to get him out.

Surprise, surprise.

Plus, the danger of the sale

And not knowing who to trust.

Your enemy's not gonna get
You in any trouble 'cause

You're not gonna be doing
Any business with your enemy.

Your friends, you trust
'em, you get in trouble,



Maybe you shouldn't have but...

Tensions rise
In the ongoing feud

Between mark, digger, and mike.

We live under a microscope,
Bad enough as it is,

We don't need explosions
In our damn world.

Then,
We settle once and for all

Who's really
Appalachia's top shiner.

Moonshiner josh.

Josh, tim, digger, and mark,

Mike, and mark rogers sit down

With executive
Producer matthew ostrom

To catch up on
The season so far.

I told the frickin'
Doctor I want that finger.

Guess what he said, "You can't
Take no body parts with you."



I said,
"But god gave it to me."

It's all coming up on
"Moonshiners: secret summit".

The new season of
Moonshiners is in full swing

And there's a lot
To catch up on.

Tonight, we're gonna
Get to all of it.

Welcome to the
"Moonshiners: secret summit".

I'm matthew ostrum,

The executive producer
Of moonshiners.

Guys, thank you for
Being here tonight.

-good to be here.
-yeah, man.

It's good to get all of
You around the table again.

One of the big storylines
That's going on this season

Is the feud between
Mark and digger

And mike and obviously
The settlement.

Let's take a quick look,
Catch the viewers up

Where we are with everything.

Here's the resolution.
It's not debatable.

We want $7,500 for our
Still that you blowed up.

Me and dave been busting our
Chops, day in and day out.

We've got us a payment up.

We gotta go meet mark
And digger and see

If we can't get these boys
Paid up a little bit today.

Well, we're on time,
So they're late.

I don't care if he's
A few minutes late

If he's bringing money.

There he is,
We'll see what

We got in store here
Hadn't we?

Got y'all a payment
Here, that's $1,800,

And it's a little over a
Quarter of what I owe you boys.

We'd had hoped for
Some more.

I just hope you guys,
Y'all understand,

I mean I do have
A family to feed.

-we do.
-and that right there's

Reassurance that I'm
Trying, you know,

I'm trying my hardest.

I think we're
Headed in the right

Direction, buddy.
-I hope so.

They understand
That I'm making the effort,

But me and daniel we've got
To start turning out

A lot more liquor, 'cause we're
Basically killing ourselves.

What we going to do
To up our production?

We've got to do something
-yeah.

I don't know.

Mark, how is
The new arrangement

Been working out
With you guys?

Uh, we came to an agreement,
And it's up to this point,

You know, all the
Terms have been met,

Mike's done what we
Agreed upon, and you know,

We're all about seeing
It through and hoping

It gets resolved
And put behind us.

Sure, sure, and digger
What do you think?

Are you surprised at
How quick he's able

To pay you guys off or?

Well, you know,
Not horribly,

I mean he's got a good work
Ethic about him

He'll get in there and grind
And get it done.

You know the thing moreover
That we've got to get

Through is we can't have
Craziness going on in our world,

I mean, we live under a
Microscope bad enough as it is.

We don't need explosions
In our damn world.

He's doing well, really
Well considering the size

Of operation he has now
To work with, you know.

Honestly, he's putting
In a lot of hours.

Are you staying
Within county lines,

You're holding up your
End of the bargain?

I am at this present
Time, I'm staying

Right where I'm supposed
To be, doing everything

That I can, you know,
To get this liquor made,

Get it pushed out
There to my customers,

My regular customers.

They're wanting all this
Good brandy,

And they're paying top
Premium price for it,

And that's the way
I can get these guys paid off

In a good manner.

One thing I think
I need to address

Is with you josh, you posted
Something and I feel like,

Let's just take a look.
-josh is always

Posting something.
-josh is always posting

Something on social,
But you had a little accident,

Let's just take a look.
-you're not just saving that

For yourself you know.

Why do y'all always
Pick on me?

You're doing it to yourself,
Josh.

You're the low hanging fruit.

All right let's roll
That clip real quick.

It's just been one of those
Mornings, but you know what,

No matter what happens, no
Matter how tough it gets,

No matter when you just wanna
Through your hands in the air,

And just say "To hell with
It," sometimes you have to.

But when you feel that
Way you just gotta

Keep on digging, right?

Just keep on digging
'cause if you

Don't, what are you going
To do, lay down and die?

I don't think so.

Josh, what did you do?

What happened here?

I've seen better heads
On diseased cabbage.

Josh, what happened here?

Oh, man, I joshed it.

You joshed it?

I did, we was trying to
Rip this giant stump

Out of the bay, we was
Working on the ocean,

On the side of the beach there.

And we was pulling
Out this giant stump,

And there was a main taproot
Holding it in the ground,

And I jumped off the
Bobcat and I ran to get it.

Well when I jumped over the
Stump and I took off running

There was a trackhoe
Bucket up there,

And it done like this at the
Same time I went that way

And it cracked me
Upside the head,

And chipped my tooth.

I don't know if it
Cracked my skull or what,

But it rang my bell pretty good.

Did you hurt the bucket?

That's what my
Buddy said, he said

"Damn your head bent my bucket."

Hey guys,
You remember this?

-aw, its baby josh.
-aw, little josh.

Little josh is back.

Can't we call him "Big josh"?

we had 48 injuries so,

So now I feel like we gotta,
You chipped a tooth you said?

Yeah I've got a gash on my
Scalp right here.

All right.
Gotta hit that okay.

And then you
Cracked your skull?

Well I got
A gash in it anyhow.

Stitches?

No, I didn't think,
I wasn't going for stitches.

Guys what do you think
That's like a half patch.

Well if it was any one
Of y'all, you'd had been

In the hospital.
-right, exactly.

You was bleeding.

All right.
We'll give that to you.

I feel like we're up to date
So we had 48 last time,

So now we're at 50,
It's a nice round number.

-let's keep it there.
-let's keep it there.

Everybody says
Slower is faster,

And I agree with that
To a certain extent,

'cause if you slow down
And you don't screw nothing up,

And you get it done,
It's faster than

If you screw up
And you got to go back

And fix the screw up
Plus do the job.

-exactly.
-but when you don't screw up

And you're faster,
You're that much faster.

Then in your case,
If you don't slow down

You're wasting too much time
Hunting for the body parts.

We can do this to you,
But nobody else can.

Yes, that's true.

We're just trying to help
You out with that.

Can't I win?

You're always winning,
You're ahead.

Oh, I'm always winning
All right.

The fact that you're still
Above ground, you've won.

-all right --
-no arguing with that.

As always the law keeps
Closing forcing you guys

To take even bigger risks to
Stay ahead of the game, right?

Right.

So let's take a look
At our shiners taking

Bigger risks to avoid the law.

Oh, *bleep* we got problems.

That's a trooper, bubba.

Selling moonshine is a risk
It's just one of those things,

You've got to trust
Your instincts.

If you got a gut
Feeling about somebody

Then you'd better
Trust your gut feeling.

-uh-oh.
-oh, hell, it's the police.

Damn it.

You automatically
Think the worst,

Everything, police
Is always armageddon.

Be careful, they're going
To be watching for duis

Outta here.
-yeah.

This square right here,
Tribal lands,

If you get caught
In here somewhere

This'll be
Federal charges.

Real bad.

Well I always get
Nervous, don't you?

Don't get caught,
That's the main thing.

Yep.

There's the law
Right there.

No, god, no.

-we need to stay calm.
-keep going.

All right. So if moonshining
Isn't hard enough,

You guys, you've got to deal
With that, right?

So mark rogers,
You've been getting intel,

That keeps you ahead of the law,
Is that right?

That's right.

How's that been
Working out for you?

Well, its working pretty good,
Like my ole buddy chuck.

-yeah.
-he's law enforcement

A long time.
-uh-huh.

He knows a lot about
It you know, so.

Isn't that a big risk?

Now he's implicated.

-yep.
-mm-hmm.

Would you take intel
From an officer you think?

-absolutely.
-heck yeah.

Yeah, all of you
Agree on that?

I really agree on that
'cause especially,

You know,
Mark and chuck were friends

Before he was an officer,
You've got to know that.

Some of my best
Customers are law, so.

-yeah right,
-I'd do that, yeah.

-huh.
-well, they human.

They human like us.
-they like moonshine

Just about as good or
Better than anybody else.

all right.
Well, that works.

They like that feeling of
Getting away with something.

-right.
-I think most of them do.

Yeah, they do.

Josh, you're saying
You have a lot of

Law enforcement customers,
How do you know

It's not a sting operation,
How do you know

They're not setting you up?

Well, because I've
Known most of these guys

My whole life,
If they were setting me up,

I'd probably
Already be behind bars.

Right.

You know, and it's just a risk
That I'm willing to take.

When something happens to you,
Who do you call?

You call your friends that's
In the law enforcement

And they can pull strings
To help you, right?

Right.

If anybody is going
To get us in trouble,

Its going to be somebody we
Knowed and trusted for years

Regardless of their occupation.
-dang right.

-exactly.
-that's right.

-you know.
-you've just got to

Take a chance.
-a stranger ain't going to get

Me in trouble,
'cause I'm not going to be

Doing any business with him.

Your enemy isn't going
To get you in any trouble

'cause you're not going
To be doing any business

With your enemy.
-right.

-you know so,
Your friends, you trust them,

You get in trouble,
Maybe you shouldn't have.

You don't deal with
People you don't know,

And you pay attention to
What kind of trouble

Your folks that you're
Dealing with have been in.

You know, in our little
Ole small town, everybody

Makes the paper if they
Get arrested for anything.

And we keep a close eye
On it, and if we see

Any of them then they
Are no longer a customer.

-right.
-my friends told, my folks,

Told me you keep
Your friends close

And your enemies closer too.

You can't watch
Them if you don't.

Mm-hmm.

As you can see there's a
Lot to talk about here,

Stick around and
We'll be right back.

Coming up, josh defends
His new life on the road.

Now he ain't going to
Stay in one place,

He's a mover and a shaker.

I know this sounds crazy,
But I'm really not that scared.

That's why you're
Missing a finger.

And later, big news
From the big house.

I'm going over here to culpepper
Sheriff department and jail,

To see mr. Tickle here.

Welcome back to the
"Moonshiners: secret summit,"

I'm the executive
Producer matthew ostrom,

Later on we're going to
See tim's jailhouse visit

With tickle, but first,
One of the themes this season

Is our shiners having
To reinvent themselves

To sell more moonshine,
And josh you decided

To take things on the road.
Let's take a look.

I'm gonna be able to make
Liquor and sell liquor

At any biker rally,
At any festival,

It just makes sense
To be able to

Take my operation
Anywhere I wanna go.

Mobile still units --
Never been done before,

It's a custom job
And I'm just ready

To see this whole
Operation up and running

So we can go on the road,
Start making some money.

Building this trailer has
Been a lot more damn work

Than I ever
In a million years,

Would've ever thought
It was gonna be.

But today, today is where it's
Finally all gonna pay off.

Alcohol is kind of forbidden
Around the reservations,

But as long as I can
Stay out of trouble

I'll make some money.

So we're just going to go
Work our way through the crowd

Run into some of my
Friends and hopefully

They'll even introduce me
To some of their friends

And I'll make
Some new customers.

It's 600 bucks
For the 5 gallon.

-it's good, I'm cool with it.
-okay.

Its turning out to be
A pretty damn good day.

Keep on shining, right?

I'm just curious, what's
Your take on this gentlemen,

You guys with old wisdom.

The mash is in a different
Vehicle by the way,

It's not in the same,
It's not in the same vehicle.

And you're not selling to
Anyone you don't know,

If you're if you're selling
To your friends.

I don't know if you've
Forgotten this or not,

But there's a certain smell
That comes off a cooking mash.

And anybody that's been in
Law enforcement long enough

They've been around
A liquor still,

They're going to know
What that aroma is.

Yeah, I understand that.

I understand that.
-and they're going to

Get curious as to where
That smell is coming from.

-I'd do it.
-I'm doing it.

I mean he ain't going
To stay in one place.

He's a mover and a shaker.

And I mean,
I know this sounds crazy,

But I'm really not that scared.

That gets you in trouble,
That gets you in trouble.

That's why you're
Missing a finger.

That's why you're
Missing a finger.

I didn't say, I didn't say that
I-I wasn't watching my back.

-you're just not scared.
-and I didn't care,

I just am so confident

In my operation and
What I got going on

That I'm not too
Worried about it.

I'm going to have be
Told on to get caught.

You just do your
Business brother,

That's all I can tell you.
-yeah, all right.

We're going to do ours,
You do yours.

Are you selling to strangers,

Is that a big risk factor?

Well when I go,
I don't never ever ever

Try to sell to strangers,
But when I go

To these biker rallies,
I know so many people

Like, these are my biker family.

I know, not everybody, but I
Know most of the big names.

And if somebody that
I really really trust

Says "Hey, my boy wants
A jar of moonshine,"

And he can trust him,
And I know him really well

Then I'll probably
Let that jar fly,

Or that five gallon bucket,
Or 10 five gallon buckets,

Or whatever.
-okay.

Okay, being out at these
Festivals and rallies

You guys have had plenty
Of time to witness people

Consuming alcohol,
Some people are good

At consuming alcohol,
They can hold their liquor,

Other people consume
Alcohol and they

Can't function at all, right?
-that's right.

But we thought, hey
Let's play a little game,

We're calling it
"Too drunk, or slam dunk?"

We'll show you some clips of
People that are trying to

Accomplish a task after
They've had a couple of drinks.

If they can get
Through the task,

And can do it,
That's a slam dunk.

If they can't accomplish a task,
Well, they're too drunk.

All right let's take a
Look at our first clip.

I don't want to watch.

So george is enjoying
His friend's pool party,

He's had a couple of cocktails
And he thinks

"Anything can be
A diving board."

So what do you think,
Does george miss the pool?

Too drunk, or does
He make it, slam dunk?

Well I mean its a
50/50, part of him is

Going to land in the
Pool, and the other part

Is going to leave a damn
Imprint in that concrete.

I feel about the same way,
I feel like it was too drunk,

'cause if he wouldn't
Have been that drunk

He'd probably had
Never tried that.

But it looks like it
May be a slam dunk,

If his face don't hit
The corner of the pool.

Yeah, I'm going with
Josh, he's going

To make it, he's got this.

-he's going to make it?
-yeah, he's got it.

He's got it, there's no doubt.
-mr. Ramsey?

No, he's too drunk.

All right,
So we've got a 50/50 here.

He's a professional,
Look at him,

Look at the position
He has, he's got it.

Oh, my, I don't wanna --

I don't wanna watch.
-he could die.

I don't wanna watch.

Oh, my god! Oh, my god!

All right, there you go,
Well done, you got it.

There's living proof right
There that the lord looks

After fools, drunks,
And little children.

amen.

Let's move on.
Let's go to our next clip.

There you go, skateboarding
Under the influence

Isn't a crime, but
These two guys might be

Pushing for new legislation,
Let's be honest, right?

He's about to light
His pants on fire.

Some lighter fluid
On some rocks,

Some lighter fluid
On the skateboard,

Some lighter fluid on the
Legs, and away he goes.

What do you guys think,
Is this a skateboarding

Too drunk, or is this a
Rail sliding slam dunk?

Does he make it?

Unless there's a bunch
Of water at the bottom

Of that rock he's a dunk.

-anything that you do is...
-too drunk.

Anything you do intentionally
With fire is a bad idea.

-yeah, yeah.
-trust me on that.

So is that consensus,
Digger, do you agree?

No, this ain't going to
End well, yeah too drunk.

Not a good idea.Let's take a look at this video.

You don't play with
Fire like that.

Oh, my god! *bleep*.

I told you he was going!

Stop drop and roll, son.

I called that one.

Yeah, fire goes up.

I didn't call that part!

Where's the fire
Extinguisher at?

That's a too drunk, it's true.
All right. There you go.

We should name this
Game "Stupid *bleep*".

Craig and his pals, they start

Pre gaming at the big game.

And craig just
Crushed his pals.

And by the seventh inning,
He is looking

For a new cheerleading gig.

Does he pull off the
Perfect dismount, slam dunk?

Or is he just too drunk?

-I mean it's possible.
-it's stupid.

But I don't know if
Its possible for craig.

it's stupid?

That's another category,
Too drunk, slam dunk, stupid.

What do you think tim?

Well, he's got a good dismount.

-he does. He's got --
-he's got a good dismount.

He's got a good dismount.
He's got height.

-if he misses that fence there.
-he ain't trying to land on

That fence is he?
-no, no. That's, that's,

That's like
A plastic padding.

I think he's going to lose
His virginity to that.

That's what I just said.

Yeah, I just think its stupid,
Its just bad business.

Show us matthew!
-all right. So --

I'm gonna go with
He makes it.

Well let's, let's,
Let's take a look.

Family jewels! Gah!

Well, he landed it perfect.

He ain't never having no kids!

Guys did you really
Think if there's a fence

And the guy in the air,
He was not going to land,

I mean, we must be
Doing our jobs right.

He nailed it through,
Did he nail it?

-yeah, oh, yes.
-he nailed it.

-it was perfect.
-he nailed the fence.

He is going to be
A forever high tenor.

What better way to celebrate

Your 21st birthday than
Drinking with your buds,

And then dazzling them with
Your skateboarding skills?

Is this phony hawk too drunk
Or is this a slam dunk?

Wait a minute,
Do you see the ramp,

It ain't really even
A ramp.

All it is is a broken piece of
Plywood up against a six by six.

He already broke it one time.

He'd have to go
Straight down to hit it.

I mean, he's got a good,
Look, I mean he is holding

The board, he's got good form.
-he's going to land

Out here plum past the plywood.

When did the pyro
Technics go off?

-he's going to land.
-he's going to land.

He's definitely going
To land, its going down.

All right.
Let's roll that clip.

-ow!
-gah, plum out!

-what in the world?
-gone.

He just walks up
And looks at him.

And you said some people
Are just plum stu--

-oh, see!
-there's the alcohol.

There's the alcohol.
Yep, there it is!

Is that blood on his nose?

All right there's a
Lot more to come,

Stick around,
We'll be right back.

Coming up,
Mark and digger's hunt for

Popcorn's secret stash of shine.

In the moonshine world,
It's the same,

As raisin' a case of champagne
That was on the titanic.

-right.
-you know, there's people

Out there that would
Kill for a bottle of that.

And later,
Tim visits tickles behind bars

To talk exit strategy.

-hey, man.
-hey, what's going on, tim?

Welcome back to the
"Moonshiners: secret summit".

A reoccurring theme on
Moonshiners is our guys

Working twice as hard to
Compete with big corporations.

That means trying
Things and sometimes

Thinking out of the box,
Right?

Well if you don't
Think outside the box,

You'll never get out of it.

That's right, mark and
Digger are hunting down

Moonshiners past while
Laying the ground work

For a big payoff in their
Future, let's take a look.

Here we go, boys.

This was a goat trail
Back in the day.

Well that ain't no
Goat right there.

-what's that, no trespassing?
-no trespassing.

Well we ain't really.

You ain't trespassing as long
As the gates open are you?

Exactly.

Holy hell. Dead end.

Yeah, things just got a little
More interesting up here.

Y'all wanna go
Move them stuffs?

I'll get them out of the way.

Just by looking
At the driveway

It's obvious
That there's not been

Any people back in here
For a long, long time.

Is that the house?
-that's the house.

Popcorn's
Momma and daddy,

It looks like its
About had it don't it?

Yeah,
A few more limbs on it.

So this is the porch that
Pam was talking about?

-yep.
-well how about that?

-well look yonder.
-what is it?

-look what that says.
-really are you *bleep* me?

Right there it is.

Did he write it everywhere?

Well, everywhere
He though about it.

I'll be damned,
Of all places that

Are scratched with
A nail or something,

Is that bible verse again.

You wanna
Swing that door open

And get the good news or me?

I'm about
Halfway scared to.

You know, popcorn hid
Liquor all over the place,

It could be anywhere,
But we, you know,

We may be in the right place.

Give me the damn light.

They's cobwebs.

They's some boxes
In there, cuz.

I wonder if there's
Anything in em.

Go ahead and look,
I'll hold your hat.

God almighty, are
You *bleep* me.

Just give me an update
Of where you are on this

Search for popcorn's
Hidden stash,

I think this is a story everyone
Is really excited about.

Well, you'll just have to
Watch the show and find out.

Everyone knows
The legend of popcorn, right?

-right.
-people have, you know,

Its a cove--
That's a coveted sip, right?

It would be a priceless
Commodity in my opinion,

Pam could name her price.
-and they can't make anymore.

In the moonshine world
It's the same as raisin'

A case of champagne
That was on the titanic.

You know, there's people
Out there that would kill

For a bottle of that, popcorn's
Not going to make anymore.

Its a great storyline
That everyone is following

And everyone is excited
To see what will happen.

Popcorn was a big influence
On all of you guys.

And so what we wanted to do,
Is we wanted to see

What kind of influence you
Guys were on the country.

We sent our cameras up
North to ask city slickers

Questions about the
Moonshiner's way of life,

You guys tell me based
On first impressions

Are these people going
To get the answers right?

First up, this is
Chelsea and chelsea,

Can they tell us the four
Basic ingredients of moonshine?

Sugar, yeast, water,
And what?

When you think of
Moonshine, you think corn,

You think corn,
But any grain or fruit.

-I'll be surprised.
-I don't think they'll get it.

When I think of moonshine,
You know what I think of?

Homegrown.

Okay, but that's not an
Ingredient. We don't have that.

I say no, I say no
They don't get it.

They don't get it. They don't
Get it, digger says no.

Just based on the hats,
We're going based on the hats.

The hats are cool,
But with those scarves,

She is not going
To get a cold neck.

That is true,
That she's got a warm neck.

She's up north

Okay, all right well let's
See, let's see what they did.

Ooh, is it corn?

-oh, man.
-I think that's our guess,

We'll go corn.

Well, I'll be damned.

She drinks not me.

My faith in humanity
Is restored.

Next up is connor,
We asked him to tell us

What four states border
The mason-dixon line.

That boys been playing with
Homemade bobbling kits.

He been checking the
Electricity ain't he?

He is going to say, "What
Is the mason-dixon line?"

He's not got a clue what the
Mason-dixon line is.

All right so it's maryland,
Delaware, west virginia,

And pennsylvania, so
Has connor been playing

With electricity, or
Does he know the answer?

Maryland, delaware,

West virginia, and virginia?

He was close.
He was really close.

He was 75% there.

For a city slicker,
He did damn good.

He knew what the
Mason-dixon line even was.

Bullet for you connor!

Well he's probably a major
In something, he's in school.

All right and finally we
Found roy and whitney.

They're visiting from oklahoma,
And we asked them

Who's the best
Moonshiner on the show?

Moonshiner josh!

They have to get
The correct answer

Robin williams!

Best at what though?

-I go with mark.
-I might can go with that.

We sink
Or we rise together.

They're either going to
Say that or tim smith.

-all right. Here we go.
-it's going to be one of us.

-or tickle.
-let's see what we got.

I think digger.

He runs a tight operation.

There you go.

Oh, I don't give a damn.

According to this guy from
Oklahoma, you're the one.

I knew when I saw
That face,

That was the face
Of intelligence.

That's why he's the boss.

Oh, man.

-all right.
-where's the trophy?

I hope there are no hard
Feelings over this.

Listen in my opinion you're
All the best on the show.

-aww!
-but you have a fan.

You have a fan.
All right.

We'll be back
With more "Secret summit,"

Right after this.

Coming up, the shiners
Share their hangover cures.

So tomato juice with
Salt in it, and a beer.

And a couple of good
Shots of liquor.

And a couple good --

Well now, that ain't really
Curing the hangover here,

They're simply
Getting drunk again.

And a sneak peak of
Tickle behind bars.

What you been working on
There at the distillery?

Well, we working on that
Mistake you and jt made.

What do you mean
Mistake we made?

Welcome back to the
"Moonshiners: secret summit,"

We are leading up to
A brand new episode

Premiering tonight,

Josh and I are
Sitting next to each other.

Now this is designer flannel,
Right, so I was waiting

For digger to make fun of
Me on the designer flannel.

Well somebody
Designed this one too.

That goes without saying
And the fact that its starched.

Nothing but the bast
In flannel right here.

Mark rogers, you and huck
You've been bootlegging more

Than ever,
And on tonight's episode

Something goes very wrong,
Here's a sneak peek.

Huck, he's found a feller,
He's wanting about

20 gallons a week.

20 more gallons.

Well, it'll help us as long
As we can just, keep it done.

Yeah, this drop point we got
Picked out is as good as any.

Big wide open,
And trees been cut up

And pushed on
The side of the road.

I get nervous don't you?

10/4.

Uneasy.

I can run all summer
In the mountains

And I don't feel as nervous
As I do right now.

Yeah, we been using this
Drop point for a couple

Of weeks
It's worked good so far.

Moonshiners been using this
Method for generations.

Main thing, is don't let
Anybody see you stashing it.

Now that's good there,
Let's get out of here.

Hmm, that's our buyer.
-get it.

What's a going on?

Hey...

Right behind them ole wide
Oak logs, its not there?

That don't make sense.

$2,000 worth of shine
Is a pretty big deal.

I'm thinking he might've
Went to the wrong spot

Or something,
And we're gonna go

Check it out ourselves.

It's gone, it's just
About impossible to

Find something like that unless
They see you hide it, so.

There's a chance he is telling
The truth, he's a good buyer

You know, he's taken
A lot of liquor.

Something just ain't
Right about this.

Why do dead drops?

That's a honor system.

That's the honor system?

You're counting on someone
Showing up, doing what they say?

Dead drops is just a safe
Way to get the liquor

To the person that
Needs it and not

Handing it to them personally.

As long as it goes
To the right person.

Exactly.

You know,
The way I see it there,

You do a dead drop,

When the buyer calls you
Or something.

Just like in this
Situation here.

They say it's not there.

Who's to say that guy
Didn't pick that liquor up

And just telling
Him it wasn't there.

And stole their liquor.

-sure.
-that happens.

Well, according to you,
This has been a good buyer.

You ain't had no
Problems with him.

Ain't no reason for you
To doubt him, are there, mark?

No.

This season we've
Seen mark rogers take

Backwoods moonshining
To a whole new level.

He's had a new strategy and
Gone deeper into the woods.

Let's take a look.

I think we oughta
Go ahead and get a

Greenhouse put up.

Think that over here in
This level place would be

A good spot.

Yeah, that's pretty
Level, ain't it?

Purpose of the greenhouse
Is just to

Sprout our corn for the malt.

It's got a little
Different taste,

It's just a lot better.

That looks real good to me.

Put a whole lot of corn on it.

It will.

Won't be no danger
That will mold, will it?

All we gotta do is just
Wait on that now, ain't it?

Yeah.

Boy that smells good,
Don't it?

Tell me about sprouted corn.

Why sprouted corn?

I think the liquor
Tastes better.

It's more traditional.

And it won't give you a headache
As bad. I don't think.

Are there any hangover cures?

'cause I've heard
That sprouted corn

Gives you less of a hangover or

Doesn't give you a hangover.

Is that true?

Grab the hair of
The dog and hang on.

I like plain old
Tomato juice, you know,

To help with the hangover.

Mix it with a beer,
Just like josh said.

Grab the hair of the
Dog and kick it back.

You'll feel better
In about 10 minutes.

Tomato juice with a little
Bit of salt in it does help.

With a little bit of what in it?

-salt.
-oh, salt.

Salt helps replenish
The electrolytes.

So, tomato juice
With salt in it, and a beer.

And a couple good
Shots of liquor.

And a couple good --

Well now, that ain't really
Curing the hangover here,

They're simply
Getting drunk again.

You gotta get better
Sometime.

Your hangover's gone,
Ain't it?

Ain't nothing cures
A hangover but --

Time.Time.

Time.

All of your ingenuity
Is inspiring,

So we have a little
Game that we've done.

We're calling it
"Shiner's hack or wack".

We got some clips
Sent in by fans,

We'll pause the
Clips and you tell me

Is their idea going
To work, it's a hack,

Or is it a terrible idea
And it's a wack.

Let's take a look
At our first clip.

Okay, here you go.

When your worn out
Trampoline just isn't giving

You the height
You've been craving,

Get more air by
Grabbing mom's yoga ball

And prepare to take off.

Is this a high-altitude hack,
Or downward dog wack?

He's gonna bust his
Guts on the ground.

I think he's gonna land flat
On his back on the ground.

I think he's gonna fall
Through the trampoline.

I think
The ball's gonna bust.

That or it will squirt
Out from under him.

He's going straight up
And doing a somersault

Flat on his back.

You mean it's gonna
Be a super bounce

Cause he's sitting on the ball
And the ball's

On the trampoline, it's gonna
Send him flying through the air?

He's gonna have to be good
To land that one just right,

I promise you.
-it's a wack.

-wack.
-that's a wack.

That's a lot of wacks.

Let's see, let's see.
Hack or wack?

- Oh!
- yep.

was that tickle?

*bleep*

-oh, man.
-that got me in the end of a

*bleep* me out.

It'll feel better, young man,
When you can breathe again.

Tell me about it.

I swear, I thought he was gonna
Fall through the trampoline.

All right. Okay, here you go.

Let's take a look at
Our next clip.

Go ahead.

Bonfires are fun!

But what if you run
Out of lighter fluid?

No problem, just grab a can
Of expired bug repellent

And blaze away.

What do you say, is this
A fire starting hack,

Or a fizzled out wack?

Bug repellent.

You know what,
I'm gonna take a gamble.

I'm gonna say it's a hack.
I believe it's gonna work.

You believe it's gonna work.

I don't think it will
Blow him up or nothing.

I'd say it's a hack.

Watch his ass catch on fire.

Mark rogers,
What do you think?

I say it's a wack.

Oh, all right, there we go.

I'd say something's
Gonna blow up.

All right. Let's see.

Go ahead.

*bleep*

I called that.

I called that
A hundred percent.

Mark, I'm gonna give you --

You did get it right.

I mean, that's a hack, guys.

All right, let's take a
Look at our next clip.

Here we go.

You ready?

You love corn on the cob,
But you hate

The time it takes to eat it.

Just get a power drill,
Hit the trigger,

And chow down.
-hack.

Is this a time-saving hack,
Or a corn hole wack?

That's a wack.

It's a wack?

If it knocks his teeth
Out, it's a wack.

But I think it's a hack.

Damn rotor's turning
The wrong direction

For his top teeth,
-that's true.

But it's turning the
Right direction for his

Bottom teeth.
-I was just gonna say, if he --

It could be a hack if he's
Holding his mouth right.

That's all I'm gonna
Say about that.

I just liked the expression
On digger and mark's face.

Just stone silent,
Dumbfounded.

All I'm doing
Is saying why?

-why?
-why would you even do that?

I'm saying you'd have done
That at a point in time.

-no, I wouldn't.
-yeah, you would.

I wouldn't.

If you're that damn lazy,
Get you some pudding.

It's all over your face.

-that's right.
-it's a hack.

All right. There you go guys.
That's a hack.

We'll be back with more "Secret
Summit," right after this.

That guy was really bored.

That's a waste of good corn,
In my opinion.

He cream styled that
Didn't he?

You'd have to get
Him a mop to clean up

And get the rest of it.

Coming up, matt talks
Business with tim smith.

Besides your expertise,
Why do you think

These people are leaning
On you for your advice?

And finally,
An exclusive face-to-face

With tickle, behind bars.

Better than talking
Through the glass.

Whole lot better than
Talking through the glass.

Even though I know they had
To put handcuffs on you.

Well, I mean it
Ain't my first time.

Josh, tell me.
Everyone wants to know.

You lost your finger.
Yeah.

Did you get to
Keep the tip of it?

Where's the rest of it?

I went in to get the
Fricking hand worked on,

They amputated my finger.

They set it on a table.

I said, "Would you
Please put that in a bag

Or a jar, or some formaldehyde
Or something?

I would really
Like to keep that."

They said, "No, you
Can't keep that."

When I went home, I told
One of my best buddies,

He said, "You get me that
Finger, I'll give you

Ten thousand dollars for it."

So I told the fricking doctor,
"I want that finger."

Guess what he said?
"When you came in,

You signed a release to
Come into this office,

You can't take no
Body parts with you."

I said,
"But god gave it to me!"

All right, welcome back to the
"Moonshiners: secret summit".

We're leading up to
A brand new episode,

Just moments away.

I'm here with tim smith,
One-on-one.

You have a couple things
That are coming up

That you've been working on.

One of the things
You've been working on

Is a new brand of
Alcohol, right?

It is. You know,
And I'm glad you asked.

'cause I did bring a bottle.

So this is a big deal,
'cause this is a bourbon, right?

Yep.

You're a moonshiner,
You took climax moonshine

And put it in a barrel?

I get questions all
The time, you know.

How can I make my
Moonshine better?

Right.

So, how do you make
Climax moonshine better?

Put it in a barrel.

Or in this, we put the
Barrel into the moonshine.

So, we're adding wood to it.

We're charring the wood
And we're changing

The taste profile.

We got two shot glasses,
I'd like for you to at least

Do a small taste of it.

That's why we're doing this
At the end of the show, tim.

And I would like to say,
This is the first bottle

That's ever been bottled,
Of climax into bourbon.

The very first bottle.

I'm excited.

What am I looking for
In this taste profile?

It's all about
What's in this glass.

Do you like it?
-let's find out.

If you like it, and smell.

Smells like whiskey.

Smells like whiskey.

It looks like whiskey.

It looks like whiskey.

It tastes like whiskey.

That's delicious whiskey.

I love it, all right.

Well, you're working on
Another project,

A show called
"Whiskey business".

Tell me
A little bit about that.

Well, "Whiskey business"
Is actually giving me

Opportunity to go out to
Help other distilleries,

Legal distilleries, has kind
Of followed my footsteps

To going legal and
Going into the business.

All right, well let's take a
Look. We've got a sneak peek.

Moonshine legend tim smith
Built an illegal

Moonshine empire
In the backwoods of virginia.

Oh, hell yeah!

I've got stacks of
Hundred dollar bills.

Then gave up his
Outlaw ways to bring his

Family recipes
Out of the mountains

And into america's
Liquor stores.

This bottle right here's
The first bottle of

Legal climax moonshine.

Now he's using a
Lifetime of liquor-making

Expertise
And homegrown know-how...

In the woods,
You ain't got this time.

Y'all walk around like you're
Getting paid by the hour.

...To pull struggling
Distilleries back

From the brink and preserve
The american tradition

Of handmade liquor.

The moonshiner is a guy
Who makes the moonshine.

This looks like the
Computer's doing it.

I don't wanna use it
To mash in.

This could be a death trap.

You're not gonna make it.

We're gonna fix it
Or it's gonna blow.

Stand back!

Yep, that's a fire!

All right, we're all really
Excited for "Whiskey business".

Looks great --
-me too.

It's going to be, I think
It's going to be really good.

And, I've got a
Viewer question here.

And I figured you'd be the
Perfect guy to ask this one.

This one's from kristy from
Lorraine, pennsylvania.

"Why should I risk buying
From a moonshiner when I can

Just buy liquor from a store?"

You know, moonshine
Is like growing

Tomatoes in the garden.

Good, homegrown tomatoes
Is the best taste.

You go to the store, you don't
Know what you're getting.

You don't know what
Country it came from.

And the quality is,
I have to say,

It's not as good as a backwoods,
Homegrown moonshine.

-right.
-the quality is not there.

All right. So we all know
That tickle is unable to be

With us tonight, but tim,
You got to have a little

Visit with him in jail.

Here's a little sneak
Peek of that visit.

Let's take a look.

We're going over here to
Culpepper sheriff's department

And jail to see mr. Tickle here.

I've been working on
Getting tickle a work release

For a while now.

I've talked to the court,
Sent letters to the judge.

It takes so long to
Even get these guys

To respond back to you.

Tickle, you have a visitor.

Stand up, approach the bars.

Turn around.

Turn around and face me.

♪♪

♪♪

Jail two.

Hey, man.Hey what's going on, tim?

Better than talking
Through the glass.

Whole lot better than
Talking through the glass.

You're looking good, really.

Well, I mean
I feel all right.

It's just a whole lot
Better and comfortable

For us to talk.

Well, have you heard anything
About the work release?

I did hear about it.Good, good.

What did you hear?

All right, tim.

I'm looking forward to
Watching the rest of that.

Thank you very much
For being here.

Thanks to all the
Guys for being here,

We have an amazing
Episode of "Moonshiners"

Coming up right now.
Stick around.