Moment of Truth (2021–…): Season 1, Episode 3 - Chapter Three - The Wronged Man - full transcript

When the police came,

I didn't know that it was the police,
they pulled up kinda fast.

They had regular clothes on,
so I didn't know who it was.

Interrogations lasted, like, seven hours.

It was a lot of back and forth,
late at night.

You don't know, if these police
that have just picked you up,

if they're questioning you to try to
test you to see if you're gonna snitch

so they can go ahead and kill you
or if you're gonna hold your water.

So, I went through the story
that me and Larry agreed on tellin'.

I was tryin' to keep
their attention long enough,

because I assumed
Larry was gettin' away.



At one point in the interview,

they brought a piece of paper
that they wanted me to sign.

It was a document that basically said

that I saw Larry kill James Jordan.

I said, "I'm not signin' that,
I'm not signin' that document.

I'm not signin' that."

Best friends since we were kids.

I know ultimately that my friend
could maybe go to death row

if I tell the truth.

But what you didn't know was

they were talking to Larry,
and the deal basically involved

implicating you.

Exactly.

I think we have no idea what happened.



But what I know in my legal mind
and in my heart

is that Daniel Green
was not there when it happened.

And the truth is,
if he had been convicted

of the worst things that
he possibly could have done,

then, he would have been out
18 years ago.

A battered and vandalized car

turns up on a deserted
Cumberland County road...

The vehicle belonged
to Michael Jordan's dad.

The body,
located in Bennettsville, South Carolina,

has been positively identified
as the body of Mr. James Jordan.

The nationwide impact
of the alleged crime

hit home in rural Robeson County.

I don't want to know.

- You don't?
- No.

Because it probably
would hurt me even more.

Well, let me
explain why-why you're scared

since you won't explain it right.

You're scared
because you're not tellin' us the truth.

Anything you want to say
to the Jordan family?

I didn't kill him.

Daniel Green,
a young kid born in Robeson County.

Who was born in a two-parent family.

Entered school, excited about learning,

and actually a gifted
and talented young child.

Did really, really well in school.

Daniel was always inquisitive.

I can recall me and him
falling out one time

about taking apart a radio.

I said, "But, Daniel,
what would make you do that?"

He said, "To see if
I could put it back together."

At around age six, began to encounter

what we call critical life course events.

His parents divorced,

leaving behind his sister
and himself with his mother.

My father was in prison down here.

He did five years over
a small amount of marijuana.

My mother, she grew up
without a mother herself.

Her mother died
when she was six months old.

So, my mother was raised
by her grandmother,

which is actually the same lady
that primarily raised me.

They moved to Philadelphia.

Daniel had a stuttering problem.

And so, he began to encounter
difficulty in the school system.

Because of his stuttering
and because of his southern drawl

they began to call him the Southern Nerd.

They were relegated to some of the most
dangerous neighborhoods and communities,

and they moved multiple times.

But it was hard because we moved so much.

We moved every year.

So, by the time I was in ninth grade,

I had already been to
13 different schools.

When you are
in constant state of mobility,

you can never place roots anywhere,
you can never establish ties

that are meaningful kinds
of relationships for you.

And he then began to encounter
all kinds of difficulties with other kids

in these concentrated
poverty environments,

with the absence of
a male figure in his life.

You have to make your own way.
You survive or you don't.

Then, at around the critical age of 13,

he witnessed the police
kill a 13-year-old friend of his.

And then, shortly thereafter,
his uncle was murdered.

And then he began to carry a gun
for his own protection.

They moved back to Robeson County.

Although all of his
school records indicated

that he was gifted and talented,

they put him in
a non-academic prep track.

Really smart kid, but the classic cycle
when you're not challenged,

you begin acting out.

So, school suspensions
and a whole range of other things.

Daniel was a very attractive young man,

so the girls gravitated to him,

and the other guys didn't like that.

And one guy in particular

just bullied him to no end.

And an incident occurred,
where this guy was goin' to attack Daniel.

And there was an altercation
in which Daniel

is accused of hitting the guy

with the blunt end of the ax.

It was three guys,

and I had got in a fight, you know,
individually, with two of the guys

in the previous weeks.

And they were older than me,

so they were used to, like, I guess,
runnin' things or whatever.

So, three of 'em jumped me,
you know, roughed me up.

They followed me down
to somebody else's house,

and they were gonna jump me again.

So, I just picked up the first thing
that I could get my hands on,

which was the ax
that was layin' on the porch.

And I was swingin' the ax,
I'm just swingin' it in front of me,

you know, like
just leave me alone, right.

One of the guys,
which was the oldest guy,

he was tryin' to grab me,
tryin' to jump me in between the swings.

And he tried to grab me,
and the ax hit him in the head.

All of the evidence shows
that it was self-defense,

but his public defender
told him to plead guilty

because it was his first offense,
that he probably would get off

with, you know, probation,
or something of that extent,

and pay a restitution to the family.

He was 16 at the time.

He got six years in prison.

Prison is really designed
to drive you crazy,

and I'm not sayin' that as some type
of hyperbole, I mean, for real.

You're treated like a product,
and it's a dangerous environment.

Everything here, it desensitizes you.

When Daniel went to prison,
Larry was the only one who contacted him.

He wrote him letters.

No matter how many times I look back,

I know that bein' in
that environment that I was in,

that there was certain choices
that you just, like...

That was...

It's not like you had a lot of options.

Your life is chaotic.

It's up to us, I think, to create
some type of order out of it.

I spent the years from 16 to 18
in prison, as a child.

The conviction was overturned on the basis
of ineffective assistance counsel

for not pursuing self-defense.

So, I don't think that
that circumstance should've been

used against Daniel at all.

If anything,

it should've been used to show
that he wasn't an aggressor.

The jury would've heard and seen
that part of Daniel Green.

The mean, vicious person that he is.

The prosecution typically argues that

these young men choose
to pursue crime and violence.

A lot of the circumstances
surrounding the events that lead up to

these heinous crimes and the like
are structural.

They're not personal
or individual choices.

It's not uncommon
for a lot of males of color

who grow up in those environments

who feel that, you know,
"I'm not gonna make it to 20 anyway."

Daniel embraced the view that

he probably wasn't gonna
make it to adulthood himself.

People here in Robeson County

watched silently as one of basketball's
greatest players called it quits,

their eyes filled with thoughts
that the death of Michael's dad

is the reason the superstar
is hanging it up.

He'd probably still be in it
if his father was still alive.

He'd still probably be on the team

if his father still had been alive.

Michael Jordan says he has been
thinking about it for some time,

and this morning
he announced his decision.

He will no longer
play basketball in the NBA.

The only thing left for folks
down here in Robeson County

is the next decision that comes from here,
the Robeson County Courthouse.

This is where they will decide
what happens

to Daniel Green and Larry Demery.

So, initially,
when Daniel Green is interrogated,

he lies and he says that they had
nothing to do with the murder,

nothing to do with
disposing of James Jordan's body.

Daniel has told me,
and has told his attorneys,

and has told anyone who will listen,
that the reason that he lied at the time

was that,
A, he did not trust law enforcement.

The second reason,
and probably the most important reason,

is that he was very devoted
to his friendship with Larry Demery.

He was very loyal to Larry.

And the reason he was
loyal to Larry is that

they had been friends since grade school.

They had always had each other's backs.

When he came out of prison,

Larry immediately kinda brought him
into his group of friends, into his world.

And Daniel just felt like
Larry was his best friend

and that he could not
throw him under the bus.

Well, my lawyer, I mean, you know,

like within the first couple of weeks,
he told me

that Larry said that
I killed James Jordan,

and I didn't believe him.

So, I said, "Well,
even if the police scared him,

there's no sense in sayin'
something that's not true."

I figured that by the time
he talked to his lawyer

and things settled down, he'd say,
"Okay, well, let me tell the truth,"

or at least tell enough truth
that would vindicate me.

I pretty much,
I didn't really believe it till, I guess,

like '94, '95, I guess,
when he took his plea bargain.

The defendant, Larry Martin Demery,
is changing his plea

from one of not guilty to guilty,
pursuant to a negotiated plea,

and the transcript of plea
is before the court.

Also, Your Honor,
as a part of this negotiated plea

91 CRS 16879,

which is a breaking and entering
and larceny charge;

91 CRS 17049,

which is a breaking and entering
and larceny charge;

92 CRS 1054,

which is a breaking and entering
and larceny charge...

Back in 1993,

you couldn't take
the death penalty off the table,

even if somebody agreed
to testify against their co-defendant.

So, they offered Larry a deal.

They basically said, "We're going
to give you a shorter sentence

on the robberies, and then,
as it pertains to the murder case,

we're gonna tell the jury,
'Hey, Larry helped us out,

so it would be great if you didn't give
him the death penalty.'"

It is the agreement of the parties

that judgment shall not be prayed
until a date certain

following the conclusion
of the Daniel Andre Green trial.

And you understand that you're
pleading guilty to first-degree murder,

which has a minimum sentence,
upon conviction, of life imprisonment

and a maximum sentence of death.

Yes.

Understanding those things, Mr. Demery,

do you now personally plead guilty
to each of these offenses?

Yes.

Are you in fact
guilty of each of these offenses?

Yes.

The judge repeatedly asked Larry Demery

if he understood what he was doing.

Each time,
the 19-year-old defendant said yes.

Yes to a guilty plea
in the murder of James Jordan,

and yes to nine other counts
from the Jordan case

and a series of other crimes.

Other than this plea arrangement

between yourself and the prosecutor,
has anyone made you any promises

or threatened you in any way

to cause you to enter this plea of guilty
against your wishes?

No, sir.

And do you enter this plea

of your own free will, fully understanding
what you are doing here today?

Yes.

In cases like this, they decide

who's the leader, who's the follower.

And once they make that decision,
they go full speed ahead,

and the co-defendant,
then, is the eyewitness

and is the person who's able
to put that person in prison.

The agreed-to sentence
would be 40 years

for everything else he had pending,
but in the Jordan case,

there was no agreement as to a sentence.

By entering that plea agreement,
he has a better shot

of avoiding the death penalty.

I was upset.

Of course, I was hurt.

I don't know, man,
it just didn't seem real.

It just really didn't seem real at all.

Prosecutor Johnson Britt

seemed satisfied with the Demery plea
and eager to move on

to the second defendant, Daniel Green.

We have the two people who are
responsible for Mr. Jordan's death.

Does this
strengthen your case for Daniel Green?

...strengthens
your case against Daniel?

Oh, I think it does. I think we have
a good case against Daniel Green.

We now have his accomplice,
who is willing to testify

and to give the intimate details
of what took place.

It's been two and a half years

since Daniel Green first came
to the Robeson County Courthouse,

but the next several weeks
will be the most important

for the man accused of murdering
Michael Jordan's father.

When the media converged,

reporters on every corner,
cameras were in the hallways.

The courthouse was taken over.

There was media cable lines everywhere.

There was the satellite dish farm
in the parking lot of the courthouse.

And it stayed there for weeks.

I mean, it looked like

you were broadcasting the Super Bowl
out there in the parking lot.

Judge initially let cameras
into the courtroom,

and then, what ended up happening is
lawyers started playing to the cameras.

And at that point, cameras were gone.

I think the O.J. case

played a huge factor
in keeping cameras out of the courts.

It had just become that circus
that got out of hand.

The judge in Los Angeles was accused of
not being in control of the case.

And any time a judge has
a lot of attention on a case,

he doesn't want that thing retried.

Judge Weeks didn't want any trouble,
and, boy, he held order during that trial.

The jury pool knows

this will be a lengthy
and well publicized case.

Finding people without an opinion
could be tough.

My personal thoughts,
I would not have been able

to be an impartial juror anyway,

but I was not happy at the thought
of having to sit through selection

for up to a month or longer.

It was outrage that this community,
this area,

Cumberland County, Robeson County,

will be forever associated

with the death of James Jordan.

People took it personally,
and they wanted justice.

I believe he's guilty.

Will the defense
put defendant Daniel Green on the stand?

Not going to tell you whether
we're going to make that decision or not.

Not even sure that it's been made.
Not gonna get into that.

We just put 'em up as we come to 'em.

So, Daniel Green
received court-appointed attorneys,

which is not unusual for somebody
that doesn't have the financial resources.

And at the time, I think they too
were under a lot of pressure

because they had this situation
where everybody just assumed

that Daniel was absolutely guilty.

And his co-defendant was saying,

"Yes, he's the one who did it,
I was there."

So, they were really
fighting an uphill battle.

Here comes
District Attorney Johnson Britt.

- Johnson Britt.
- How y'all wanna do this?

How you wanna do it?
Y'all wanna ask questions, or what?

So, Johnson Britt inherited this case.

He was not the District Attorney
when the murder happened.

And once he was elected
as District Attorney,

he started to look at the files.

But he had no doubt,
from the very beginning,

that law enforcement
had arrested the right people.

My position on sentencing
is this is a capital murder case.

There are aggravating circumstances

to support the imposition
of the death penalty,

and that I will pursue the death penalty.

What I had was
a statement from Daniel Green

with a whole bunch of lies in it,
and I had a statement from

Larry Demery that was as close to
a confession of felony murder

than any case I've ever had.

The family stood at arm's length
from this case.

They realized that
the celebrity status of Michael Jordan

could influence what happened.

And in a sense,
I don't think he wanted to testify.

And so, I approached
Mr. Thompson and Mr. Bowen

about stipulation in lieu of
Michael Jordan not appearing in court.

They did not want him anywhere near
the Robeson County Courthouse,

much less on the witness stand.

And I think they probably
would've done about anything

to keep him from appearing here.

I was told by Michael's lawyer
that his brother, Larry,

would be able to answer
all of those questions.

Today a member of the Jordan family

faced his father's accused murderer
for the first time.

Michael Jordan's older brother, Larry,
identified several key pieces of evidence,

including an NBA ring his
basketball star brother gave his father.

Larry Jordan made only one
brief statement after his testimony.

Larry, you sure there's nothing
you'd like to say to all the folks

that're concerned about your family
and everything?

I'm sure at an appropriate time, some
family member will come forward and speak.

But not right now. It's not a good time.

We blew up the phone calls
into big posters.

Each witness who identified
that they received a phone call

and that they had had a conversation
with either Larry Demery or Daniel Green,

showed them that
the murder happened here,

that the individuals who
committed the murder stayed here

with that car, in the days after.

And it was very powerful evidence.

My recollection is that it's
the first case ever in North Carolina,

criminal case, to be tried
in which cell phone records were used.

All week, the prosecution tried to prove

Daniel Green was in possession
of James Jordan's possessions

in the days following the murder.

The D.A. says his case is solid
and right on course.

To me, this has always been
a very straightforward murder case.

How important do you think
your testimony is to the case?

I don't know.

I hit the spots that
I feel that are necessary.

I don't try to waste time.
I make my points and move on.

Yeah, he had the watch
and the ring on him, man.

Yes, he showed me the watch and the ring,

and he showed me the key
to the Lexus and all that.

The combination of all the goods,

Mr. Jordan's possessions
coming out of Daniel Green's residence...

That's a pretty damning
piece of information.

These guys were showboating.

They were showing off,
particularly Green.

As they say, he wanted to be
large and in charge.

That was Green, and that is Green.

Melinda Moore and Dee Sullivan

say they dated Green
and co-defendant Larry Demery

in the summer of 1993.

They described how the four
barhopped, slept together

and took turns driving a red Lexus.

Do you have any feelings about
whether or not Mr. Green's guilty or...

- He is.
- He is? Why do you say that?

'Cause he is guilty.

Is there anything,
his actions that he did with you,

that makes you think that way?

No.

Daniel Green and Larry Demery have
never denied that they were in the car.

It would be silly for them
to deny they were in the car.

They didn't hide
their presence in the car,

there was a lot of people
who saw them in the car,

they freely used the car phone in the car.

And I made most of 'em

'cause I didn't realize...
like, I'm thinkin' this is a dope car.

They drove around
trying to impress girls.

They also drove around trying
to figure out what to do with the car.

The first time
I seen the car, it was a Friday morning.

And by Monday,
that's when we got rid of the car.

Because they didn't know

it belonged to James Jordan,

and they actually thought
it belonged to a drug dealer.

Like, this is a car
that's stolen, and it's clean,

and, you know, you can move drugs in it.

So, I didn't realize at the time

that the person who was killed,
that that was his car.

Authorities say Daniel Green

and Larry Demery
are bold, cold-blooded killers,

bold enough to make a videotape

that shows off some of
James Jordan's personal property.

Daniel Green
rapping into a stolen video camera.

It's a big difference from
the Daniel Green you see in court.

When Daniel found jewelry in the console,

he thought it was replica jewelry.

He thought it was
just some really crazy UNC fan

who had a lot of UNC gear.

I put the ring and the watch on

because it had
Michael Jordan's name on it,

not because I knew that
it belonged to Michael Jordan.

How could I know that?

Nobody would've believed,

on that day that I made this video,

that this ring and this watch
that I'm wearin', that I found in a car,

belongs to Michael Jordan.

Didn't nobody think it was real.

We just thought it was like
a pair of Jordan's shoes.

Jury never saw the video.

Judge Weeks granted a motion

that the video would not be shown

because he believed it was
highly prejudicial to the defendant.

Being an African-American male,

Judge Weeks understood the potential
racist implications

of showing that video.

And that's why
we utilized still photographs.

Daniel never denies

that he was a stupid 18-year-old boy.

He denies shooting James Jordan.

He denies being anywhere near
where James Jordan was when he was shot.

But he doesn't deny that,
as an 18-year-old boy,

he did stupid things.

Daniel Green had got out of prison

in late spring, early summer of 1993.

He and Larry Demery
had been friends in school,

and so they reunite and
they go off on these escapades.

And what the evidence
and each one of them told me,

was that they became
increasingly more violent.

There was a report
on file with the Sheriff's Office

about a robbery that occurred here
at a country store,

prior to Mr. Jordan.

Gentleman by the name of Clewis Demory,
no relationship to Larry Demery.

Clewis is the clerk at the store.
He's an elderly man.

He keeps a gun underneath the counter.

He's there in the store one afternoon.
Two kids come in.

And they come in,
come around the counter with a gun...

Clewis Demory says two men robbed him

at his convenience store
eight days before James Jordan's murder.

One of them shot him three times.

They take the gun,
they take some money and they leave.

He calls for help.

Clewis Demory's testimony
I think had tremendous impact.

He identified Daniel Green
as the individual who shot him

and took his gun.

D.A. Johnson Britt says

Clewis Demery picked Daniel Green's
picture out of a lineup,

and that makes him a strong witness.

When you take and you look at
the photographic lineup that was used,

and you look at the photographs
that are there,

and he picks out number three,
number three is the defendant.

The clerk pointed at Green in court

and said Green looked like
the man who robbed and shot him,

but then surprised a lot of people
when he said, quote,

"I couldn't swear to it because
so many Black people look alike."

Because it's the truth.

Their features is just alike,
some of 'ems.

And by "features is just alike,"

do you mean Black people
in the county, or...

Right in that community. Yes.

He was in his mid-70s,

maybe late 70s when we tried this case.

Part of it was his age.

He got shot in the summer of 1993,

and he's being asked
to recall those events in 1996.

He had difficulty identifying his own gun.

What you had was Larry Demery,
who testified,

"Daniel Green was the one
who was with me."

I am confident that

Larry was involved in
the Clewis Demory robbery.

Larry was involved in another robbery

where he hit an elderly woman
over the head with a cinder block.

He was involved in another robbery
where Daniel was with him,

but Demery was the one with the gun,

and Demery was the one making the threats.

And the people described Daniel as
being the one kind of in the background,

and Demery was the leader.

So, we went to the Rowland Motel
to see this guy.

They was like,
"Oh, he's down at the South of the Border,

at the Family Inn Hotel."

So, we get down there, and he's gone.

And Larry's like, "Man, listen,
I owe these people this money.

I gotta give these people this money."

He says, "You know what, the next people
that come out, I'm gonna stick 'em up."

I go, "Yeah, okay," but in my mind,
stuff like this,

I'm thinkin' he's really just talkin'.

You don't really think, in your
wildest dreams, he's actually gonna do it.

When the people came out
and he pulled the gun out

and actually went over to them,

then, I'm like, I'm there now.
It's like, you can't leave.

And that was the robbery I did with him.

Demery was involved in drug trafficking.

Demery was involved in drug use.

I knew that he was connected.

I knew that he had
a warrant out for his arrest,

and that he had enough pull that
when we were stopped by the police,

they never arrested him.

He was plugged in.

Demery was doing things with other people

that Daniel was not part of.

So, I believe it was someone else who was
with Larry at the Clewis Demory robbery.

The gun that was stolen in that robbery
is the gun

that was discovered in Daniel Green's

mother's mobile home
inside that Shop-Vac.

But what people miss is that
Larry was staying in that house.

Larry was staying in that bedroom.

So, it could just as likely have
gotten there from Larry as from Daniel.

Law enforcement goes back for
the second look at Daniel's trailer

after talking to Larry again.

So, there's more than a suggestion that
that information came from Larry.

So then you had the question of,
was the gun tied to the murder?

That gun, along with the bullet

that was taken from Mr. Jordan,
were sent to the SBI lab

to have an analysis done,
to Firearms Identification.

Was this bullet fired from this gun?

The .38-caliber pistol
authorities say killed James Jordan

is now here, at the SBI crime lab,

where a battery of tests
are already underway.

Before forensic experts
can make a match with any gun,

they have to come up with
a bullet to match it to.

-
- That's where this device comes in.

The suspect's gun is loaded

and then fired into a cylinder
containing ten feet of water.

-
- Then, with bullet in hand,

it's off to the lab,
where markings left in the bullet

are matched with
the ammo retrieved from the body.

Those marks are as conclusive
as fingerprints.

The trick, though, is matching them up.

Ultimately, what the lab said

was that there weren't sufficient
markings to say with certainty

that that bullet had been fired from
that gun, but it could not be excluded.

To me, it's scientific evidence
to prove that what the State's theory was,

what the trial was,
could not have happened.

Yet, during closing arguments,

the District Attorney says
it's a match.

So, you have the scientific evidence

that is then misstated
and overemphasized

in closing argument by the prosecution.

I have the liberty in closing argument

to argue any inferences
that are raised in the evidence.

What I say is not evidence.

What the defense says in closing argument
is not evidence.

Our jobs are to persuade the jury

to the position we want them to take
and what that evidence says.

So, for me to argue to the jury that
that was the murder weapon

is within the realm
of what I'm allowed to do.

If my argument was so out of line,
I know for a fact

that Judge Weeks would've
stopped me in my boots.

He would've entered the objection.

He would've told the jury
to ignore what I just said.

That didn't happen.

It's-- it's been a long week,
everybody's tired.

You know, until the jury decides,

who knows where anybody is
in this case, the State or the defendant.

- Okay?
- Okay.

If you tried
to piece together the evidence

as we were getting it,
as it was being released,

you build a link of storytelling

that should be reflected on the facts
that are presented to you.

And so, I don't think it was unusual

that there would be
more questions than answers,

given the scope of the crime
that was committed here.

The theory of the State, the narrative,

was that James Jordan had
fallen asleep in the driver's seat

and that his window was open,

and was shot at close range
into his chest.

So, you would imagine
there'd be blood in the car.

We processed the car last night
for latent prints,

also for a luminol of the car,
see if there's any presence of blood.

Those tests were negative.

Is it possible
for a man to be shot in his car

and authorities not find any blood?

And that's the way
it's designed to mushroom.

I've covered
a lot of shootings over my time,

and depending on the weapon,
there's a lot of blood.

That is a question.
That is a huge question.

There wasn't an exit wound.

The bullet actually hit a rib and lodged.

And that was one of the reasons
there wasn't a great deal of blood.

Ultimately, he bled to death internally.

The blood evidence, for me,

is the hardest thing
to wrap your brain around.

Because if, by the State's account,
James Jordan was shot

at point-blank range
in the driver's seat of his car,

these teens were alleged to have
moved his body to the passenger seat

and driven it 35 miles away
to McColl, South Carolina, to dump it,

and there was no blood evidence
definitively found inside his vehicle.

You can't even get to step one of
understanding how this murder occurred.

They did an initial test on the car

and they did see
some positive responses for blood.

Eventually,
they determined that there was this spot

in between the passenger seat
and the driver's seat,

and they zoned in on that spot.

In that spot
that Jennifer Ellwell said she found

was the only positive luminol reaction
that they said they got.

When Jennifer Ellwell was challenged,

she gave her personal opinion,
as a forensic scientist,

that the substance was blood,

even though there was no confirmatory
test confirm that it was blood.

That is not something that you can do.

And that is something
that Jennifer Ellwell now,

with today's scientific standards,

has said is something
that she can no longer say.

She could not say that
that substance was blood.

The interesting portrayal of that spot
that was not visible to the human eye,

at trial, is a picture of the seat back
with a red marker

marking in the crevice.

It makes it look like there
was this puddle of blood.

When in actuality, whatever it was,
wasn't even visible to the human eye.

It's Daniel Green's murder trial,

but right now, all the attention
is on this man, Larry Demery.

Demery has agreed to testify
for the prosecution

against his co-defendant
and longtime friend.

At this time,
we call Larry Martin Demery.

Any time you have a case and
you're using a cooperating defendant,

sometimes they give you bare minimum

'cause they don't want to
hurt their friend.

Place your left hand on the Bible,

raise your right,
and state your name to my left.

Then there are times
when they give you great detail

because they realize,
"This is helping me now."