Million Pound Menu (2018–…): Season 1, Episode 6 - Naked Dough and Black Bear - full transcript

I'm Fred Sirieix.

I've worked

in the restaurant industry

for 25 years.

Right now, the UK's restaurant

scene is the envy of the world.

And all it takes

is one great idea to make

a fortune on the high street.

But has the next generation

of restaurants



got what it takes

to become a multi-million

pound business?

Over the next six weeks,

here in Manchester,

the food capital of the North,

12 of the most exciting

new restaurant ideas

are in with a chance of a

life-changing investment

from some of the UK's most

respected investors.

These are the men and women

who can turn an idea



into a national brand.

We're looking at putting a lot

of money into the absolute

best concept.

This is the kind of model that

you dream of.

If I find the right operator,

I'll be fighting for it.

[Fred] Each week,

the investors will give

the people

behind two

great new food ideas

a unique opportunity.

Ah, this is brilliant.

-[Fred]

Their own pop-up restaurant.

-[bell dings]

Right. Rock and roll, man.

[Fred] They have just three

days to prove...

Nobody seems to know

the table numbers.

-[Fred]

They've got what it takes...

-It's a disaster.

[Fred]

To make it on the high street.

When you start to rush,

that's when you start

to make more mistakes.

-There's a big backlog

of customers...

-Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

What are you going

to do about it?

If I was to invest,

it would take half a million

to £750,000.

Time to make some dough.

[Fred] After the 3 days,

will the investors walk back

into the restaurant...

[sighs]

[Fred]

And make them an offer?

It's a £600,000 lunch.

We are not gonna leave

without an investment.

I'm sorry. Your time is up.

The doors are open

for business.

Welcome to Million Pound Menu.

You know what they say

about first impressions?

Well, it's all true.

Speak to

a restaurant investor,

and they'll tell you the

first bite of their food

is everything.

Over 1,300 restaurants opened

last year in the UK.

Today, two more will be

opened for business,

hoping they've got what it

takes to make a fortune in

the restaurant business.

Always, always, wanted to own

my own restaurant.

On our social media accounts,

all our reviews are

five stars.

[narrator]

The men and women

behind some of the UK's

most successful

high-street businesses

met to choose the most

exciting new restaurant ideas

for a three-day

trial run pop-up.

[woman]

Raastawala is fun.

It's that bubbliness that

we're trying to bring through

in our presentation,

in our food.

It's the profit per site

going to be big enough

for people like ourselves

to invest?

[narrator] They were looking

for the two entrepreneurs

with the strongest food,

brand, and business plan.

This is our signature dish,

braised beef ragu

I think there are other

players in the market already

who are doing it

in a more authentic way.

[narrator] Then, each investor

had to decide whether they

liked either idea enough

to try it in Manchester.

We are Naked Dough.

Let's get naked!

[narrator]

The first idea to

whet their appetite,

two best friends who think

Britain's ready for the

latest American sweet craze,

raw cookie dough.

[Jen] We are all about bringing

fun, indulgent treats

to the UK market.

In the first three months,

we had a turnover

of £150,000.

[Hannah]

That's a lot of dough.

[Jen] It's a lot of dough.

[narrator] Hannah and Jen

are after £250,000

to take Naked Dough

nation-wide and beyond.

We're looking

for a sweet-toothed investor

to help us grow

and become a global brand.

Uh, I think this is fantastic.

I actually started my career

working in Millie's Cookies.

[laughter]

My name's Chris Miller.

I run a company called

White Rabbit,

which is a hospitality

investment fund.

The ability

to scale this is huge.

Obviously, like,

the retail side of it,

the kiosks,

the standalone sites.

At the moment,

it's just cookie dough,

but, actually, they could

use it as a base

for ice creams.

They could do actual

baked cookies.

It's actually finding a way

to... How can you expand

the initial brand

that they've created.

[Jamie]

Potentially this is genius.

This is the kind of model that

you dream of.

I'm Jamie Barber, and I've

been in the restaurant

business now for 20 years.

Traditional restaurants are

very expensive.

You look at something

like Naked Dough...

I don't think they need

a full-scale store.

The labor costs should

be pretty small.

There's no

high-level chefs required.

I see this as being a

concession that can be

popped into

a River Island or

a Topshop or a cinema.

[Shruti]

I absolutely love this.

Their branding is super

strong. You can't help

but be attracted by it.

It's a really original concept.

I can't think of a single place

it wouldn't work.

I can't think of a single

person who wouldn't

want to eat it.

I'm Shruti and I do

angel investing,

so I invest my own personal

money in small businesses.

My first ever investment was

in a restaurant business.

I think the restaurant sector

is actually quite difficult

at the moment,

and I think that's one of the

reasons why Naked Dough

really appeals to me.

I absolutely

love the branding.

I can imagine it would

very much appeal

to my two-year- old,

five-year-old and

seven-year-old.

I'm absolutely all over this

like a bad rash.

[all laughing]

Hey guys, Liz and Stew here

from Black Bear Burger.

[narrator] Next, a married

couple who want a piece

of the UK's

three billion pound

burger market.

[Liz]

Our concept with Black Bear

is simple done well.

We don't use any gimmicks

in our burger,

we just use the best

ingredients to create

a great burger.

[Stew] Since we started

trading a Broadway market,

our reputation is now one

of the best burgers

in London.

[narrator]

Liz and Stew are

after £200,000

to open their first proper

restaurant.

-Looks good.

-Do we need another

burger operator?

It doesn't really matter

whether the market is

saturated or not.

If you're entering it

and you've got a better offer,

a better price,

you'll kill the opposition.

Absolutely kill the opposition.

I mean, I'm always keen

to check out any rising

talent

and just reaffirm

our position, really.

You think I'll be sick of

burgers by now, but I'm not.

I'm Scott Collins, co-founder

and managing director

of MEATliquor.

The whole burger phenomenon,

people want a bit more...

bang for their buck and

a bit more of experience

nowadays, so...

that's why

I think we prospered.

It's not just about

the burger.

It is a fairly crowded market,

so it does have to have

an X factor.

So, from our perspective,

we'd quite like to see

a burger operator

in our, er...

in our property.

And we think it would fit

very well.

I'm Tim Gee

from Allied London.

Property development business.

It looks unhealthy,

it's going to taste delicious.

I think burgers are a great

product, always will be.

If you've got

the right product,

the right brand,

the right location,

they'll sell very, very well.

[narrator]

The ideas have been chosen.

Black Bear Burger have two

investors interested,

but three might end up

competing over Naked Dough.

[Fred]

Naked Dough

and Black Bear Burger

will open their doors

for the first time today.

In 24 hours, some of the

country's biggest

restaurant investors

will arrive

and look at their business

in every detail.

Will they walk away

with an investment,

or empty-handed?

[narrator] For the next three

days, both ideas will take

over existing restaurant sites

just 100 yards apart.

Today, Liz and Stew, and Jen

and Hannah will see their

restaurants for the first time.

[Stew] Oh, no way! Look!

[narrator]

For the past few weeks,

they've been working

with a designer...

Let's have a little look.

[narrator]

To bring their brands

to life.

[Liz] Oh, wow! Amazing!

[Stew] Oh, my God!

[Liz] It's amazing!

[Stew] It's wicked.

It's perfect.

[Stew] Just our vibe,

actually.

[Liz] Yeah, totally.

That's awesome.

Right, need to see

this kitchen.

[narrator] Newlyweds

Liz and Stew got together

at university.

The girls in our flat

had a competition as to who

could with him first.

Cheers, mate.

I wooed her over with, um,

with my love of my cow.

I live on a beef farm down

at Devon.

I've got this favorite cow

called Cow 74.

When I saw Cow 74, Stew's

favorite cow, I think

that was when I fell in love.

-[laughs]

-It's how to charm a lady.

[narrator]

After working in

Canada for two years,

they took the plunge and set

up Black Bear Burger

18 months ago.

This is the Black Bear Burger,

no gimmick, just done well.

-[laughing] What was it?

-Just a great burger.

Whilst we were there,

we sort of had, like, a bit

of an epiphany, really,

we were like actually,

when we get home,

we should do something

that we really,

really wanna do.

And that's when we set up

Black Bear.

[narrator] Their burgers have

sold so well, their food stall

has gone full-time.

[Liz] Our focus is simple,

done well.

That's always at the center

of Black Bear.

Let's get crackin'.

[narrator] Opposite Black

Bear Burger, best friends

Jen and Hannah are also

about to see their restaurant

for the first time.

-So exciting!

-So exciting.

We got a logo!

-Ooh, oh, my God!

-Oh, my God!

[Jen] Good times in the Naked

Dough restaurant.

[narrator] 33-year-old Jen

trained as a pastry chef.

-I love all the artwork

on the wall.

-Yeah.

[narrator]

And 25-year-old Hannah

gave up her job in marketing

to launch Naked Dough five

months ago.

Hannah and I have talked

about various business ideas.

She's mainly come up with some

crazy, fun-angled idea.

Honestly, I came up with the

weirdest ideas. I was like,

"This is it, this is it,

this is going to make

us millions."

But when I saw that cookie

dough was a new craze

in America,

and people were queuing for

three hours at a time

just to eat some

chocolate-chip cookie dough,

I was like,

"Ah! Brilliant!

Let's do that in London."

[narrator]

Last year, they

opened a pop-up store

in London's fashionable

Old Street.

It was an instant success,

turning over almost £50,000

in its first month.

We suddenly realized there was

going to be huge demand,

and I called up Jen on a Friday

saying, "I think I'm gonna have

to quit my job."

[Jen] We didn't know if people

would like it.

It turned out they loved it.

[narrator] Now, they're after

an investment of £250,000.

Doing this, there's something

completely and utterly new

every single day.

So happy.

Oh, it's all coming together!

[narrator] In just 24 hours,

the investors will be

arriving for lunch.

So tonight,

both restaurants will open

to the Manchester public

for their one and only

practice run.

Naked Dough and Black Bear

Burger are getting ready

for their soft launch.

From my own experience,

I know how stressful

and difficult this can be.

Regardless of that,

they must deliver.

It's their one and only

chance to get it right

before the investors arrive.

-How are you?

-[Liz] Hello.

-I like the shirt.

-Oh, thank you very much.

-[Stew] Canadian.

-Canadian.

-[Liz] Lumberjack.

-Oh, very good.

So tell me about

Black Bear, then.

You're doing well, aren't you?

Yeah, yeah,

it's going really well.

The last year has been

a bit of whirlwind,

hasn't it?

It's kind of gone a lot

better than we thought.

You know, there is a big

elephant in the room here.

I mean,

how do you think

you're going to

take over some of

the very big brands

that are out there?

We think that we've upped

the burger game.

I think our burger is better

than what is out there

at the moment.

Some of the bigger brands,

as they've grown,

they've actually

lost a little bit

of sight of their quality.

Kind of average.

What you're saying is

very well-established,

well-known brands...

You just said they're average?

Big statement.

-Big statement.

-[Liz] Yeah. Yeah.

-Gotta back it up now.

-You need to try our burger.

[laughs]

-Okay, well good luck, guys.

-Thank you very much.

-[Fred] We'll done.

-Thank you.

The burger market is worth an

incredible 3,3 billion pounds

per year in the UK.

Liz and Stew think

there is room

for one more brand.

But to succeed, you need

a superb product,

you need great branding

and amazing operation.

But have they got

these crucial ingredients?

[narrator]

Conditions are tough

for UK restaurants right now,

especially the premium

burger market.

But Liz and Stew believe

Black Bear's menu stands

out from the crowd.

So, fairly simple menu,

but it's kind of

simple done well.

[narrator] Their best-selling

Black Bear Burger is topped

with homemade onion jam,

garlic mayonnaise

and bacon.

It's priced at £7,50.

For a pound more, the brisket

burger comes with cheese

and beef brisket

braised in a beer

and mustard sauce.

On the side,

buttermilk chicken nuggets

priced at five pounds

and triple cooked chips

at £3,50.

Wee!

I'll do the fishy sauce first

and then I'll do the

onion puree.

-If you do the chives,

then, after service...

-Yeah, okay.

[narrator] As well as bringing

their own teams...

-Hey, guys.

-[Jen] Hi!

[narrator] Both restaurants

are provided with

experienced local staff.

Familiarize yourself with

the flavors.

Encouraging people to have

the milk with it,

because it's very rich.

These guys still need stickers.

[narrator] In Naked Dough,

Jen and Hannah are after

a share of the UK's

five-billion pound

confectionery market.

"Cookie Monster,

Emoji Poo,

Nuttin' Better?"

[exclaims] That's funny.

They've got

a sense of humor.

-Hello. How are you?

-Hello.

-I'm Fred.

-Welcome to Naked Dough.

-Well, this exciting.

-Yeah.

What is Naked Dough?

-Did you ever make cookies,

when you were a kid?

-Yes.

[Jen] Yes. This is

the stuff that you had

before it went in the oven.

[Fred] And it's raw?

[Hannah] It is raw.

[Jen] Completely raw.

It looks like ice cream.

It's safe to eat.

It's just like

a normal cookie dough,

but it doesn't have

any raw eggs in it.

It looks really naughty.

It is very naughty.

It's an indulgent treat.

You are already successful.

You're doing well.

-Yeah.

-Yeah

But, erm, what is

your ambition? I mean,

why are you here?

The dream is to not only

have locations in London.

We want to bring cookie dough

to the UK market as a whole,

um, open in major cities

and potentially in cinemas

-as an alternative sweet-treat.

-Yeah.

Cookie dough domination

across the world.

-Well, good luck, girls.

-[Hannah] Thank you very much.

And don't forget, the investors

want to make as much dough

as you do.

-[chuckles]

-Right?

-I like that.

-Good luck.

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you, bye.

[narrator] Jen and Hannah's

product is designed to appeal

young consumers,

the all-important

16 to 24-year-olds.

There's a choice

of eight flavors.

Alongside best-seller,

chocolate-chip,

there's peanut butter,

salted caramel with honeycomb,

and marshmallows

with sprinkles.

A tub with two scoops

is £3,90.

-It's not straight.

-It's not straight.

[narrator]

To drink, a small bottle

of milk will cost £1,99.

[narrator] 5:00 p.m.

In an hour, Naked Dough

and Black Bear Burger

open its restaurants

to the Manchester public.

Like that, and have burger,

side, side.

The first night of a restaurant

can be very difficult.

People are out for a good

time and good food.

It's not fine dining.

This is fun.

So just go smash it.

The troops must be primed

and ready for anything.

Tonight, the customers

will expect great food

and great service,

and nothing else will do.

Time to open.

Time to make some dough.

[metal clanking]

-[laughs]

-Sorry.

Honestly, it's the first time

I've done a service

in a restaurant.

Could be potentially

quite embarrassing,

but I'm just going to give

it my best shot.

-Okay, so you have

a table for two?

-I''ll come over

to take your drinks order

in a minute.

[narrator] For tonight's soft

launch, both restaurants are

offering 50 percent off.

And just 45 minutes in,

Black Bear Burger

is fully booked.

Yeah, and that is fries.

[narrator] At Naked Dough,

they're relying on walk-ins.

[Hannah]

Well, it's quite quiet,

to be honest.

but we're hoping that it will

pick up.

When we opened Old Street,

we had a queue literally

down the street.

[Fred] How are you?

[Hannah] Hi! Yeah,

good, thank you.

-It looks a bit quiet.

-Yeah, it has been

a bit quiet.

It should be packed,

because it's half priced,

shouldn't it?

Yeah, but I don't know

what to say.

Have you been outside

leafleting, speaking to

people, getting them in?

Manchester masses.

Manchester masses,

let's do it.

-See you later.

-[Jen] Thank you.

Let's go.

[Hannah] We're gonna try

some sampling,

we've got some fliers.

It's a rush hour time,

people leaving from work,

so it's like the perfect time

to go outside

and try and get people

to come in.

[Jen] Let's do it.

Push, push, push, push.

Hi, would you like to try

some cookie dough?

-Raw cookie dough?

-You like it?

-Yeah, it's nice.

-Did you like it?

-[woman] It's delicious.

-And we have a pop-up literally

just down there.

Hi, guys, do you want to try

some cookie dough?

We actually have a pop-up

right there and it's

50 percent off.

Hi, guys,

would you like to try

some cookie dough?

People who try it,

love it.

Today, we've got, um,

a pop-up.

It's just a case of educating

people, really.

Go and check it out,

it's a really fun place.

[Hannah] Should we get going?

[Jen] Yeah.

-Brisket, no--

-Brisket, no mayo,

two briskets, Black Bear...

[Fred] Black Bear Burger

have only operated their

store before.

Running a restaurant

is a completely

different ball-game.

Get crackin'

on the next ones then.

Tonight's service

is a crucial test

as to whether they can

operate on

a much bigger scale.

Still getting used

to the table numbers.

[narrator] Up till now,

Liz and Stew

have only ever served

one customer at a time.

Here you go, mate.

We were missing the five

black burgers, we didn't get

the five black burgers.

-Oh, really?

-Yeah.

Oh, God,

I'm really sorry

about that.

Babe, you didn't get

five Black Bears

on the takeaway order.

Could you get those

on for me now?

-We just can't get stuff out

quick enough.

-[Liz] Yeah.

How's it going?

Yeah, it's all right

so far. Um...

Yeah. A few little,

kind of, pickups.

A little bit slow

-off the bat, but I think we

can catch up.

-What do you mean slow?

-For the cooking?

-For the service, yeah.

Well, just...

Kind of...

As they all came in at once,

we've done them

one at a go,

but now we're kinda

just speeding up orders

a little bit.

-I'll get your burger on in

a second...

-Yeah, I'll have a double.

-[Stew] Double?

-Yeah. I might as well, no?

So, you've got a brisket

and a Black Bear with

nuggets and fries. Okay?

This is very good,

and what's even better is

the fries are amazing.

My burger was absolutely great.

It was, like,

melt in the mouth.

The food's amazing.

That's definitely one of

the best burgers I've had.

There's no doubt in my mind

that Black Bear does

amazing burgers.

The thing is, the offering

is very simple.

Now, it's enough for a street

stall, but is it enough

for a restaurant?

[narrator] At Naked Dough...

Of course, yeah.

Thanks so much,

and used very well. Great.

[narrator]

Word spread about their

half-price offer.

[Fred]

So, you got busy just now?

-Yeah, it's brilliant.

-Yeah, it did.

So is the till ringing?

The till is ringing away.

It's good.

This more what we're

used to, so it's great.

[Fred]

How's everything?

Do you like it?

It's sweet,

but yeah, very nice.

[Fred]

Is it too sweet?

-No, no, it's not.

-No such thing as too sweet.

I had the salted caramel one,

and it was perfect.

How often would you come back?

-Every day.

-[Fred] Every day? Wow,

you've got a sweet tooth.

Both restaurants

found last night difficult,

but today is going to be

even more difficult.

The investors

are coming in for lunch.

Their first bite

of their food is everything.

Get it right,

and they could well

fall in love with the business.

Get it wrong,

and they might

just walk away.

[narrator]

At Black Bear Burger,

Liz and Stew

have given up their jobs

as a burns nurse

and an oil trader to pursue

their restaurant dream.

-Our families weren't that

impressed at first, were they?

-No.

Especially, I think, 'cause

he'd done really well

at university, got first class,

so they, kind of, had really

high hopes for him.

Then when he was suddenly

like, "Actually, I'm going to

quit my job and flip burgers,"

uh, they were a little bit

concerned.

It is scary.

But we're going to give it

our best shot,

and hopefully

get an investment

at the end of it.

-Morning.

-[Liz] Morning.

-So, big day today.

-Yeah.

Two big investors

are coming in.

Tim Gee from Allied London

and Scott Collins.

Well,

he's Mr. Burger himself.

He's the man

behind MEATliquor.

-Have you heard about

MEATliquor?

-Yeah.

How do you feel about him

coming in and telling you

what he thinks

about your burger?

We are nervous, aren't we?

-There's nowhere to hide.

-There's nowhere to hide.

He knows a burger.

You think your burger is

better than the one

of MEATliquor?

-What you gotta say now?

-[both laughing]

-It's very different.

-You always think your

burger is the best.

Yeah, well, listen,

good luck today.

-Enjoy it, if you can.

-We'll try.

-[Fred] See you later.

-Thanks, Fred.

See you. Bye.

[narrator]

Over the next two days,

the investors will test

the restaurants'

business plans and service.

But today's private lunch,

is all about the food.

-We can do this, two burgers.

-I know.

[narrator] First to arrive,

Scott Collins of burger group

MEATliquor.

He's looking for a potential

diffusion brand.

I'm constantly evolving

as a business person,

I've seen a recent trend

in much larger meat brands

who are invested in smaller

start-up, independent

versions in the same

marketplace.

And Black Bear Burger,

they're starting up,

they're small,

they're in the same industry...

It's perfectly feasible

that I could run

a second burger company

alongside MEATliquor.

[narrator] His competition

is Tim Gee.

He works for a major

property developer

and is after new food brands.

[Tim] From an investor's

perspective,

you do start to question

whether the market's

over-saturated for burgers.

But there's always room for

a standout product.

I mean, there's a heck of

a lot of pizza and pasta

in Italy,

but you still open successful

pizza and pasta restaurants.

-[Liz] Hello.

-Hi. Tim

Hi, nice to meet you,

I'm Liz.

-Scott.

-Nice to meet you.

How 's it going?

Welcome to Black Bear Burger.

-Thank you very much.

-Come in. I'll take you

to your seats.

So, we've got some menus

for you.

-Thanks.

-Very simple.

[narrator]

The lunch offer today...

Just two drinks,

two burgers,

and two sides.

Good, succinct menu.

Yeah.

I'm going to have a proper

pig out and go for

-the Double-Out Black Bear,

nuggets, and fries, please.

-Nice. Good choice.

What would you go for?

I mean there's only a choice

of two...

-Well,

try the Classic Black Bear.

-All right.

-See how you get on

with the Black Bear first.

-Sounds like a plan.

[Liz] All right, cool.

Thank you, guys.

To present a burger well,

it's not necessarily

very easy at all.

And you can tell a lot from

about how it's going to

taste by looking at it.

So I want it to look great.

[whispers]

Look at that!

[Jen]

So should we put the milk

on the table, then?

[narrator]

Opposite Black Bear Burger,

Hannah and Jen have staked

everything to build their

cookie-dough empire.

Should we give them

a little menu each?

All our savings are gone now.

We've put friendships on hold,

we've put relationships

on hold.

Hannah's quit her job.

-Naked Dough is...

It's fair to say it's our life.

-Yeah, it's our life.

[narrator]

Jamie Barber, of top

London restaurant, Hache,

and two successful restaurant

chains, is first to arrive.

[Jamie]

There is nobody

that's really taking on

that instantaneous,

concession-based

sweet treats in cinemas

and retail environments

and shopping centers,

so this could be it.

If the model stacks up,

if the product is fantastic,

300 Naked Doughs,

each turning over

at £700,000 a year,

that's £1,900 million worth

of turnover.

That is a massive business.

[narrator]

Next, Shruti Ajitsaria,

a private investor

with a track record

in backing

successful restaurants.

It's really interesting that

I have never come across

a cookie-dough

provider before.

I think it's a new idea,

unique idea, but what I do

like about it is that it's not

a seasonal product,

so it's not like ice-cream,

where you only need it

to be sunny.

I think there will always

be a space in the market

for things

that are naughty treats,

and that's what this is.

[narrator] Finally,

Chris Miller,

founder

of the multi-million pound

White Rabbit Investment Fund.

The economics for each site

could be very exciting.

You don't need a very

expensive fit-out, you don't

need an expensive kitchen

which means you don't have

huge rents to pay...

Because of all of that,

it's something you can grow

quite quickly.

-Hello.

-Hi.

-Hello.

-It's so nice to meet you,

Shruti.

-Nice to meet you.

-Welcome to Naked Dough.

-Welcome to Naked Dough.

-Have a look

at the Cookie Dough.

[Jamie] Are you excited?

[Hannah] Yeah, very excited.

Would you like to have

a sort of...

A little mini-menu each?

-Perfect.

-Thank you.

What's your best-selling

flavor?

So, I would say Emoji Poos,

that, obviously,

nobody likes to say

the name of out loud,

um, and the Hazel's Nuts.

[Chris] Do they need

to be kept cold?

[Jen] So, it can last

up to four hours completely,

safely out of the fridge,

but then you can then take

it home, refrigerate it,

you can even put it

in the freezer, as well.

What would you guys

like to try?

-I'd like to try the salted

caramel one.

-[Jen] Yeah, definitely.

-May I try

the cookies 'n cream?

-Hazelnut, please.

Can you bake it as well?

When we took out the egg,

we took out the raising

agent.

-So it's warm-able,

just not bake-able.

-Right.

And can I have

the peanut butter

and the toffee apple?

You get a very, very

sugary hit as soon as you

eat the first mouthful.

-Well, I mean, it's very

tasty, but it's like... Whoa!

-[Jen] Yeah.

[Shruti] Right.

Question on health...

-How healthy do you feel?

-Yeah.

[laughs] Exactly.

How ginormous is

this going to make me?

-You know.

What is the calorie...

-Calorie content?

I don't know

the exact calorie content.

I think people see it as

an indulgent treat.

It's about having a sneaky,

sweet treat.

Wow!

That's delicious.

Good beef.

[Tim]

You're eating a beef burger.

It's beef.

I want it to have flavor.

And, yeah, that's getting

down to that...

Eating, and how many napkins

I'm going to end up

piling up.

That's the sign

of a good burger,

is when you've got

piles of used napkins,

cause you've had to keep,

yeah, wiping your hands.

I see nodding heads,

so, hopefully,

that's a good thing.

That's very, very good.

I come across a lot

of shit burgers.

That's a really,

really good burger.

You're all in, aren't you?

[Scott]

It's very easy to judge

a burger.

You get a piece of every

ingredient in the first

mouthful.

It's got to be balanced,

it's got to be special.

It can't be average.

Do you wanna grab a beer

and join us for a chat?

[Liz] Yeah,

that would be great.

-That's a bit more relaxed,

isn't it?

-Yeah.

[all laughing]

So how many covers

did you do last night?

-About 61.

-About 60.

Yeah, which, honestly,

we're used to doing.

that in Boxpark.

More.

But's a very, very different

way of serving people.

Did you give knives and

forks at Boxpark?

-No.

-Then don't do it

here tomorrow.

We haven't used them.

-Oh, yeah.

-It'd be less work for you.

That's probably the only

nugget of good advice

I've got.

-May have peaked too early.

-[Liz] That's not bad.

[laughs]

[Tim] It was,

it was delicious.

Um, the burger lived up

to expectations.

It was a really, really,

really great burger.

-Thank you very much.

-[Liz] No worries.

You can relax now.

[Tim] Probably a bit of

a concern in terms of the

limited menu and the focus.

If you lived here, over the

course of a year, how many

of those burgers could you eat?

[both laughing]

I wanna see

how easy it is to do.

Will you be the timer?

Sure.

[narrator]

Time to put

Naked Dough to the test.

Like any successful

fast food business,

speed of service is key.

-Hello.

-Welcome to Naked Dough.

Hi, so my friend

told me about this.

I don't really

understand the concept.

What is it?

-We have raw cookie dough...

-Okay.

In several different,

delicious flavors.

-Two flavors in a tub.

-I would like a scoop of that,

please.

-Yes.

-And which is the other one

that you recommend?

Um, this one.

-I'll have a sprinkle.

-Okay.

-Like that? Like that?

-Yeah, perfect. Perfect.

-Thank you so much.

-Perfect.

-How long was that, roughly?

-Two minutes ten.

Two minutes a serve...

Means that one person can do

thirty portions an hour.

So if your average transaction

value is, let's call it,

three pounds,

for the sake of argument,

then that means the maximum

one person can do

is going to be £90 an hour.

So, that just gives you an

idea in terms of what the

maximum turnover

that you could do

per server, per hour.

Talking people

through the process,

does slow down sales.

That said, the first time you

talked me through it,

it takes some time,

but then after that,

they actually know

what they're coming in for

and it starts to be

a lot quicker.

But what would be really

good is if you had

pre-made tubs with

the little watermelon

scoopy-sized,

the watermelon baller-sizes,

so if somebody wanted to come

in just to get a selection

of flavors,

that's a very quick thing

for them to get.

I think that this is

a problem.

Okay.

The fact that we've hardly made

a dent into any of them,

is that not a worry?

It's something

that we fully acknowledge.

I take it that it's not that

you didn't enjoy the flavor,

it's just too much.

Yeah, it's like the first

couple of spoonfuls

are blissful...

-Yeah.

-And then, it becomes

quite hard going.

I thought it was a really,

really lovely experience

I thought the branding

was great.

I thought they were brilliant.

I thought the first taste

was absolutely delicious.

Really tasty.

It had exactly the consistency

of cookie-dough,

which I love.

It was actually more the second

bite that started to make me

feel like my mouth was

was sticking together,

and it was very, very sweet.

And I'm not sure whether

people would return

for that product.

-Thank you so much, guys. Bye.

-Bye. Thank you.

-See you later.

-Product, I think,

is half there.

[Jen] Bye.

[Hannah] Bye.

[Jamie]

And I want to understand

whether customers

who fit the target demographic

really respond to it

in a positive way.

I think that's really

going to dictate, to me,

whether or not

it's a viable investment.

-How lovely are they?

-Really nice.

At the moment, it feels like

it could be a little bit

of a, liitle bit of a fad

and novelty that I...

I would absolutely buy

to try it out,

'cause it looks great and

tastes great

for the first bit,

but would I buy it again?

Probably not.

In reality now,

it's given me more questions

than answers

before this turns into

an investable opportunity.

[narrator] Tomorrow lunchtime,

the investors will return to

see how the restaurants cope

when they're full

of paying customers.

But today isn't over.

Jen and Hannah and

Stew and Liz now face a

grueling business meeting.

And one investor has already

made up their mind.

[Fred] So, Scott, what do you

think of Black Bear Burger?

Their passion, their

enthusiasm, it was all there.

It was great.

They do what we do.

We sort our products really

well. We put a lot of

attention to detail.

But I was hoping there'd be

some little point of

difference that would...

Would make it a bit

more exciting.

Some little Midas touch.

But do you think that two

burger brands, like yours

and theirs,

could co-exist side by side?

Yeah, the burger market's big.

Um, we don't do

just burgers.

I think they're looking to

expand their menu a little

bit further down the line,

but right now, they just

didn't have that... sort of

missing X-factor.

So are you still having your

business meeting with

them later on?

Having been through this

process myself,

in the past, with businesses,

the last thing I'd want is to

waste anybody's time

or give them false hope.

No, I think fair play.

-How are you?

-Yes, good. How are you?

-Good, thank you very much.

-Good.

I've got a bit of bad news

to announce to you.

-Okay.

-Scott Collins has decided

to pull out.

How come?

What's...

-Um, he loved the burger.

He thought it was fantastic.

-Thanks.

Just, for him, there wasn't

enough in it to justify

an investment.

-Tim Gee is still in the

running...

-[Liz and Stew] Yeah.

And he wants to talk to you

later on about your

business plan.

-[Liz] Okay.

-So, um, you're still

in the race.

We'll give it our best shot.

-All our eggs are in one

basket now, so, yeah.

-Okay.

-Good luck, guys. Good luck.

-Thank you very much.

See ya.

What you think about that,

then?

-I think it was--

-I was a bit surprised.

-Yeah.

-Yeah, still got one more.

-One more chance,

see how it goes.

-Yeah.

[narrator] Both restaurants

will now have one hour

with each remaining investor

to go through their finances

and plans for the future.

Naked Dough are up first.

And as all three investors

are in competition

with each other,

they'll each have an hour

alone with Jen and Hannah.

A really good

restaurant investment

might have what's called

a return on investment,

or return on capital

of somewhere between

25 and 35,

or even 40 percent.

Now, what that means is,

if I invest £100,000,

I should get that money back

over three years.

They're saying that they're

going to get their money back

in three months,

not three years,

so I think we really need

to probe and see whether

those numbers do stack up.

Hi, again.

[Shruti]

I love backing other female

entrepreneurs,

so I'm really pleased

to see two women

who have done such

a lot in a short period

of time.

I think if I had the confidence

they we're going to make

that product right,

I definitely like them enough

to go into business with them.

-Hello.

-Hi, how you're doing?

[Chris]

There's definitely a potential

for investment still.

I need to see their financials

and properly understand

what's going on there.

[narrator] Up 'til now,

Naked Dough has only traded

at London's Old Street.

Jen and Hannah want £250,000

to take it nationwide.

I really love cookie dough.

Like, I'm the person, that in

the Ben & Jerry's ice-cream,

eats the cookie dough.

But even I could not have

finished a pot of that.

I mean that is my major

concern with it, really.

You know,

every pot came with a lid.

And you know, if

you decide to eat it

then and there,

then great,

and if you decide to take

it home...

I think very few people

are going to think,

"I'll eat a little bit here

and I'll take it home."

I just, that doesn't

make sense to me.

[Jamie] Now is where

the nitty-gritty starts.

So you've had June, July,

August, September and

October at the Old Street.

-Yeah.

-So run me through

the turnover in those months.

So the first month was,

I think, nearly 48,000...

48,000.

-So 48,000 in June.

-Mmm-hmm.

-And then July?

-[Jen] Um, 40, nearly 43,000.

-And in August?

-Was 36,000.

[Jamie] Yep.

-28,000 in September.

-Yeah, yeah.

And then it went to 23

in October.

That's not a building revenue

stream, that's a declining

revenue stream.

The facts are, in six months,

the turnover is half from

where it was when it started.

Now, that decline is very,

very scary,

and if those are the only facts

you got to look at, you got

to take them very seriously.

So I'm worried.

He did grill us

on the numbers.

It's a shame that

we don't have more than

five months worth of data,

because I think we were always

gonna start with the traction

that we had.

It was always going to start

off on a ridiculous high.

We realize that Old Street

hasn't been the best location

to hit our target market,

so we did see that drop.

I think you're absolutely

right on the location.

It's not right for you.

I totally understand why

you've had this big jump

at the start, and then

quite a dramatic fall off.

The question is

where does that end,

and will that be repeated

for other sites?

It's one that I'm genuinely

tempted to buy

because it's such a lovely

business model.

They'll open a good few sites.

The problem is,

with those places,

is you'll open with a big bang

and soon as your sales drop

off,

they kick you out very

quickly.

How difficult is it for

somebody else to come

in with a cookie-dough brand?

Not difficult.

It could be replicated.

Which is why we

need to act quickly.

[narrator] During the meeting,

the investors can choose to

spell out the offer

they'll make

if, and only if,

they decide

to invest tomorrow.

Right now, I have no idea

what an offer will be,

because I need to go away

and understand the numbers.

Will it become like

Krispy Kreme donuts

or Millie's Cookies?

Or will it be

just another fad?

It's definitely one

that would be

a roll of the dice.

Need to sleep on it

and look at some numbers

in the morning.

-Thank you.

-[Chris] Thanks very much.

Thank you so much.

Very nice to meet you.

He seems so well-versed

in exactly how this

would work.

He has...

I get the impression

that he...

He would know exactly how

to scale this.

So actually, I think, what

would be really interesting

for me

to do tomorrow,

is to talk to the customers.

That's the piece that's going

to be really interesting

for me tomorrow,

is finding out

what other people think.

I understand how I think,

but l just want to see

what others think.

Obviously, I've got my own

perspective on whether or not

I would eat an entire

two scoops of cookie dough,

but it would be interesting

to hear what other people say.

I think, if they can't shape

their product

in a way that will

make people go back

to have it again and

again and again, then...

Then it's not going to work

as business.

-Thank you very much.

-Nice to see you.

[Jen] She had really good

constructive criticism

for us.

She felt very strongly

about the product offering

not being right.

We need to discuss that,

whether we'd be willing to...

To change it.

I'm not necessarily the

target demographic,

which is why I'd like to see

how the demographic

that you really are after

responds to it.

I think that they've got

the genesis of a good idea.

I think they've got a product

which they know,

is not perfect.

I want to see

how the general public

respond to it.

So tomorrow's the day.

Thank you very much and

look forward to tomorrow.

-Thank you very much.

Nice to see you.

-And you.

I have faith in the people

that are coming tomorrow.

I think, fingers crossed,

they do us proud

and they like the product

and they give good feedback

to the investors.

It's not really in our hands.

It's in theirs.

[narrator] Now,

it's Black Bear Burger's turn.

With Scott Collins

no longer in the running,

Liz and Stew's only hope

of investment lies

with property developer,

Tim Gee.

[Tim] The sites that

we're offering are

very prominent, very public,

and would be the first choice

of any restaurant operator.

Hello.

How's it going?

[Tim] I want to probe them

a bit more,

what they think the next

steps are going to be,

and, you know,

just get a scale

of their ambition and ability

before you can ever make

a consideration as to whether

you want to invest or not.

[narrator] For the past month,

Liz and Stew have traded as

a pop-up in London's Boxpark.

Now, they want

£200,000 to become

a full-time restaurant.

[Tim] I wanted to start

by talking about the menu,

because you've got a couple

of sample menus.

The one that you presented

today, is that what

you're currently offering?

The menu we're offering

today is just the one

we've tried at Boxpark.

Um, but, the other burgers

on the menu we have

tested as well,

and it's just something

that we want to have

in our restaurant.

We never wanna have

a massive menu.

We always want to, kind of,

keep it fairly simple.

[Tim] It's so key to have

a good, cohesive menu

that's going to

not ruin the opportunity

of groups to visit.

You're not going to have

that one person going,

'There's nothing for me."

Um, and to do it well.

I'd like to move on to,

what is this restaurant going

to look like in you mind?

I think, kind of our vision

for, maybe, the first site

would be fairly small.

Like, 30, 40 seats.

-Similar to where you are?

-Yeah, similar to there.

We won't be looking

at opening, straight off

the bat, like a...

150-seater restaurant.

'Cause we kinda wanna always

keep that small,

independent feel,

and we think that's the way

the, kind of, burger market

is going anyway.

[narrator]

The meeting's almost over.

Now, Tim has to decide

whether he's ready to

discuss a potential offer.

Where's the dream?

You know, it'd be nice to have

maybe one in London or two,

and then kind of

branch out to other cities,

Before Boxpark, we were

looking at potential

restaurant sites in London,

and to get into a site,

you have to have

upfront of 100k...

-Yeah.

-Or more.

There's still such a barrier

to entry for us.

The reality is,

maybe the first site

needs to be located

where that's

not such a challenge.

-[Liz] Yeah.

-It can be an enormous amount

of money.

As of today, they're not ready

to step straight into

a restaurant, in my opinion.

It's crucial to see

that they're able

to translate their passion

and great food into a team

and a public environment.

-[Tim] Really good...

-Yeah.

-To meet you.

-Yeah, yeah.

They've got a lot to prove

to me tomorrow.

Tomorrow it's really important

for us just to demonstrate

that we're capable of

doing this.

Take this concept

and roll it to, um,

into more sites.

The two restaurants

are in with a chance

of a life-changing investment.

But the investors

have serious questions

about both ideas.

Today's final service for the

paying public will be what

makes up their mind.

Right now, everything

hangs in the balance.

[narrator] And with no offers

on the table for either

restaurant,

it all comes down to today,

to convince the investors.

-So what would you like

to try?

-[man] Mud Bath.

Mud Bath? Yeah.

So we're giving away

50 free pots to the first

customers at 1:00 p.m. today.

[narrator] At Naked Dough,

Jen and Hannah are taking

to the streets of Manchester

to drum up

a full lunchtime service.

[Hannah]

So this is Salted Caramel

and Mud Bath.

[Jen] If you guys are free

at 1:00 p.m. for a bit

of cookie-dough sampling...

So you've got Nutella

and Kinder Bueno

and Salted Caramel

with Honeycomb.

-How's it going?

-It's good.

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

[Jen] People are giving good

feedback, and I think

we're getting some good buzz

for today's lunch service,

so, yeah.

-They like it when they try it?

-They do seem to like it

when they try it, so...

[Fred] Ah, let's see what

these two think.

-Do you want to try that?

-Would you guys like

to try some?

It's raw, edible cookie dough.

So just like you used

to have when you were a kid.

This is Oreo.

So it's vegan

cookies and cream.

Their response has been great,

um, and people seem to be

really keen to pop down.

If you guys have time,

pop down.

So we're really hoping

to have a buzz

in the shop today.

Do you like it? Are you guys

going to come buy it

at 1:00, 2:30?

-Yeah.

-Brilliant, thanks a lot.

Well done. That's good.

Yeah, it's brilliant.

[narrator] In 15 minutes,

both restaurants open for

business for the last time.

[Stew] Let's keep talking to

each other, make sure we're

going at the same pace, yeah?

We got it.

[Jen] There's a really

big queue!

[Hannah] Is there?

Yay! Welcome to Naked Dough!

-Hi, guys!

-Oh, so exciting!

[man]

We're going to have

an amazing day today.

Nice and busy.

Look at the queue.

Big smiles.

Do you need any help

deciding?

One Black Bear, one brisket.

-Yeah.

-And I got some fries,

all right?

Do you guys know,

you get two scoops per pot?

So you can, kind of,

mix and match

whichever ones you like.

[Jen] Enjoy! Thank you.

[Hannah] Feel free to draw on

the tables.

[Hannah] Get creative.

[Jen] Enjoy! Have a seat.

[narrator] Jamie Barber

and Shruti Ajitsaria

are the first to arrive at

Naked Dough.

[Jen] Hi, guys, welcome!

I'm still here because

the idea of it is genius.

At the end of the day,

I am not the demographic.

The demographic

that likes this product

is female, 18 to 25-year-olds.

So I can't be swayed too

much by own impression.

What I want to see is what

that generation thinks

about the product.

And then I might have

a different view.

I'm really looking forward

to seeing how

the user experience goes,

so how they make

the consumers feel special.

And I'm also really interested

to speak to the people

eating it

to understand, for myself,

whether they think

the portions are too big

and whether they would return.

-So, um...

-There's no Chris.

-[Fred] Chris. How are you?

-How are you, Fred?

-Good, thank you. Very good.

-Good.

So tell me, what do you

think about Naked Dough?

Something's been bothering

me about the business.

So I then had a look

at their financials

in a bit more detail,

and what that

shows to me is,

people are excited

to try it,

but they don't come back.

-Right.

-And if you don't have

repeat custom...

You very quickly

don't have a business.

It's a nice, exciting brand

but, for me,

it's too high-risk.

Well, if you don't think it's

worth your money, there's

nothing you can do.

-You gotta go.

-Exactly.

-All right, well,

thank you very much, Chris.

-Thanks a lot.

-Have a good day. Take care.

-Thank you.

[Hannah] It seems like Chris

hasn't turned up.

He asked for our financials

last night, which I

sent over to him,

and, uh, potentially, he didn't

see what he, you know,

he didn't feel comfortable

with it, he maybe thought

it was too much of a risk,

which is fair enough.

There are two investors

still in the shop,

so there's still a chance

we might get the investment.

[narrator]

At Black Bear Burger,

their only hope of investment

lies with Tim Gee.

[Tim]

Today is very, very important.

It's very, very different,

serving burgers

to two investors

,in a quiet environment

to flipping the tables on

a 30-seat restaurant.

Probably for

the first time ever,

because they have been,

historically, a street

food operator.

Out of the food truck,

into a property.

Um, that's why we're here.

Can you do this?

How hungry are you?

-I'm quite hungry.

So I'm thinking--

-Why don't you get...

Black Bear and nuggets?

Let's give it a shot, yeah?

Okay, I'll get on from here.

All right, here you go, guys,

a Black Bear and fries.

What are you going to go for?

Chicken nuggets?

-Chicken nuggets.

-[Liz] Yeah?

Chicken nuggets, brisket...

[Tim] There's a good,

good mix of people here.

I'm interested,

there's a family come in

and it's a great buzz.

[Liz] I'm actually

really enjoying it today.

I know what I'm doing.

The other night,

on our soft launch,

I was even finding it

difficult to, like, smile,

talk to people,

'cause I was so anxious

and nervous, and I

wasn't really being myself.

Well, now I'm able to

talk to the customers and

provide a really good service.

-Here you go. All right?

-Good man.

It does look good.

What'd you think?

-It is very nice.

-It is very good, yeah.

Don't think I could

eat the whole thing,

to be quite honest.

They said we could take

it home, though.

-Because freezer.

-I've probably had enough.

-No, I've demolished it.

-You've demolished it.

-I loved it.

-So, you're a big fan.

Perfect.

-Have you had it before

anywhere?

-[man] No, no.

-No, first time.

-Really rich, isn't it?

How do you feel about

the portion?

Do you think you're going

to be able to finish that?

Um, probably not.

-At one go, we got two scoops.

-One scoop would've been...

I do really enjoy it.

I don't feel worried

with the investors

speaking to customers.

Um, I want them to be honest.

We can't improve as a business

without some critical

feedback.

Do you find it super sweet?

It's just perfect for me.

I used to, I used to sit

at home and eat raw

cookie-dough, anyway.

-Right.

-Can I ask how you're getting

on with it?

I think, for me,

one scoop

would be enough.

Generally speaking,

people like the branding.

Generally speaking, people

like the product,

but, mostly, in small doses.

And I think that's

going to be the real issue.

A very, very small proportion

were able to finish an

entire tub of cookie dough.

[man]

It's tasty, but too sweet.

-Yeah, too much.

-[Shruti] Too much?

On a positive note,

there was a lot of demand

for people to try

lots of different flavors.

It was definitely

a fun product.

People wanted

to take photos of it.

People wanted to share it.

People wanted to say

that they've been.

And I think if they can

match the product

to that Instagram ability,

they might have the kernel of

something really, really sexy.

-Thank you.

-Thank you so much.

I think they need to figure out

how they're going to sell

smaller portions,

while still being able

to charge enough

to make this a viable business.

So, I'm gonna go away now,

I'm gonna have a coffee,

I'm gonna have a really,

really good think,

I'm going to make a list

in my own head, just to

the things I love about it,

and there are a lot,

and things

I'm not sure about,

and then I'm gonna have a

sense of what I'm going to

do next.

Got the Black Bear

with nuggets and fries.

Fabulous.

The food was as good

as it was yesterday.

You know,

it was great yesterday,

I want very consistent.

Visually, the taste,

perfectly cooked.

Exactly the same.

And the service, Liz,

she's good.

The question for us is,

can we take this fantastic

street-food operation,

and turn it

into a successful restaurant

that is just as good

as they are at street-food

from day one?

That was wicked.

All right,

let's get out of here.

Come on, guys.

-[exclaims indistinctly]

-[laughs]

[narrator] Lunch is over.

Now the pressure is on

the investors.

They have to decide whether

the ideas are worth

their money.

-How are you, girls?

-Good, thank you.

-Good, Fred.

-So...

The investors have been

given a deadline.

-Okay.

-They have one hour to come

back and make you an offer.

-Okay.

-If they're back in that hour,

it's game on.

If they're not,

then it's game over.

How do you feel about that?

It's a long time to wait.

[narrator]

Jen and Hannah came

looking for £250,000.

Jamie Barber

and Shruti Ajitsaria

are both still interested.

If they're to make an

investment,

they have until 6:30 p.m.

to return to the restaurant.

-This is what it comes

down to.

-[Hannah] Yes.

-Oh, you've done great.

-Thank you.

You went out there,

drummed up the business,

got people to learn

about your product.

-I really enjoyed today.

-Yeah, today was good.

How long is it?

[Fred] We've got another

15 minutes.

-Another 15 minutes.

-Yeah.

We still believe

in the product.

We're not gonna stop.

We still think Naked Dough

is going to be a big brand.

That's true.

-Girls. The time is up.

-Time.

-Okay.

-[Fred] They're not coming.

Okay.

I'm sorry.

I'm gutted for you,

but in the same time,

you know, maybe

it wasn't the right fit.

Maybe.

[Jamie] I think these guys

have been fantastic.

I rate them as entrepreneurs.

I think they are hungry,

I think they will overcome odds

and get to where they need to.

But I think, they're

probably six months

too early,

because all we've got at

the moment is pure data,

and the pure data is

they've got one store

which has got six months

of month-on-month

declining sales.

And they've got an idea,

and that idea

is not perfected yet,

and, unfortunately,

in this case,

the investment

just doesn't stack up.

[Shruti] I actually thought

the branding looked beautiful

and I thought it was

a really exciting concept.

I really liked them and I

really wanted to like

the business, actually.

As much as I

wanted to love the product,

unfortunately I didn't,

and so, for me, that means

I can't invest.

[Jen] I feel gutted.

We put our heart and soul

into everything that we do.

At the same time,

it's been a really good

learning curve.

-Yeah.

-Um...

[Hannah] And we really

appreciate all the advice

and thoughts and opinions

that people have had

on our business.

I still think we've got a good

thing going.

Yeah.

-C'est la vie, Fred.

-C'est la vie.

[narrator]

At Black Bear Burger,

Stew and Liz

came looking for £200,000.

Tim Gee has until 8:00 p.m.

to walk through the door.

Only ten minutes.

20 minutes to go.

[chuckles nervously]

Where's your head at right now?

We'll just have to wait

and see.

How long we got?

Six.

Six minutes.

Guys.

The time is up.

Time's up?

It's kind of been...

The whole experience is...

It's been a big learning

curve, but it's actually...

Shown ourselves

that we can actually

run a restaurant service.

We're gonna draw

on the experiences

that we've had here

and, uh, you know, really,

kind of, set up a

successful restaurant from it.

We've done it on our

own up 'til this point,

so we're going to continue

doing that.

[Tim] Unfortunately, we won't

be pursuing our interest

in Black Bear.

There's no denying

that, currently,

their menu is limited.

You know, we would need

to see more development

on that front

and just a general confidence

that they're able to run

a business

and not just a street

food pop up.

There is a sense of regret.

I looked at the business plan.

I ate the burger.

I met the people.

It was all,

it was all wonderful.

Um, but, you know, it's

got to be a perfect marriage

isn't it?

And we're just not there.

We don't often give ourselves

a lot of praise and a pat

on the back,

but I think

going through this together,

has made us a lot stronger,

um, and I think it's

been a really, really,

positive experience for us.

[Fred] What do you need to do

to secure an investment?

Naked Dough and Black

Bear Burger worked so hard

at this,

and yet it wasn't enough.

This is a tough business

and I wish them every success.