Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (1999–…): Season 2, Episode 3 - Closure: Part 2 - full transcript

In the criminal justice system,

sexually-based offenses
are considered especially heinous
In the criminal justice system,

sexually-based offenses
are considered especially heinous

In New York City,
sexually-based offenses
are considered especially heinous

In New York City,

the dedicated detectives who investigate
these vicious felonies are members
In New York City,

the dedicated detectives who investigate
these vicious felonies are members

of an elite squad known
as The Special Victims Unit.

These are their stories.
of an elite squad known
as The Special Victims Unit.

These are their stories.

911 emergency operator 307.
What is your emergency?



I'm in the Lincoln Tunnel.
I haven't moved in 45 minutes.
911 emergency operator 307.
What is your emergency?

I'm in the Lincoln Tunnel.
I haven't moved in 45 minutes.

You reporting an accident, sir?
I'm in the Lincoln Tunnel.
I haven't moved in 45 minutes.

You reporting an accident, sir?

It's almost midnight.

What the hell's up with the traffic?
It's almost midnight.

What the hell's up with the traffic?

911 emergency operator 307.
What is your emergency?
What the hell's up with the traffic?

911 emergency operator 307.
What is your emergency?

There's a rape.
Right now.
911 emergency operator 307.
What is your emergency?

There's a rape.
Right now.

88 West Franklin.

- Now, get down!
- Get away from me!
88 West Franklin.

- Now, get down!
- Get away from me!



I said get... / Hello?
- Now, get down!
- Get away from me!

I said get... / Hello?

Two-seven-Charlie,
respond to a 10-34.

Assault in progress at 88 West Franklin.

No suspect description.
Line disconnected. Respond Code 3.
Assault in progress at 88 West Franklin.

No suspect description.
Line disconnected. Respond Code 3.

What've you got?
No suspect description.
Line disconnected. Respond Code 3.

What've you got?

911 didn't get an apartment number.
What've you got?

911 didn't get an apartment number.

Probably a cell phone call.
We're knocking on doors.
911 didn't get an apartment number.

Probably a cell phone call.
We're knocking on doors.

Perp may still be in there?
Probably a cell phone call.
We're knocking on doors.

Perp may still be in there?

Yeah, if there is a perp.
Perp may still be in there?

Yeah, if there is a perp.

Wouldn't be the first prank call.
Yeah, if there is a perp.

Wouldn't be the first prank call.

- You guys from Special Victims?
- Yeah.
Wouldn't be the first prank call.

- You guys from Special Victims?
- Yeah.

Found this under the fire escape.
- You guys from Special Victims?
- Yeah.

Found this under the fire escape.

"Lori."

Got her. 3-B.
"Lori."

Got her. 3-B.

Special Victims. Benson, Stabler.

- How you doing?
- I heard some crying.

The door's unlocked.
She's in the shower.

I started to go in, but she started
freaking out on me, so I backed off.
The door's unlocked.
She's in the shower.

I started to go in, but she started
freaking out on me, so I backed off.

Thanks.
I started to go in, but she started
freaking out on me, so I backed off.

Thanks.

Stay away! / Lori?

Gina?

It's Olivia.
Gina?

It's Olivia.

- It's filthy in here.
- That's okay.

I'm going to help you.
- It's filthy in here.
- That's okay.

I'm going to help you.

- Lori?
- Please don't come in here.

This place is filthy.
- Lori?
- Please don't come in here.

This place is filthy.

Lori?

Hey, how long you been in the shower?

This drain...

- I want this stuff out of here.
- What stuff?
This drain...

- I want this stuff out of here.
- What stuff?

The stuff he washed off me.
I want it out of here.
- I want this stuff out of here.
- What stuff?

The stuff he washed off me.
I want it out of here.

Lori, the stuff is long gone.
The stuff he washed off me.
I want it out of here.

Lori, the stuff is long gone.

You've already washed it all away.
It's okay.
Lori, the stuff is long gone.

You've already washed it all away.
It's okay.

It's okay.

It's okay.

Give me your hand.

- There you go.
- This is really happening, isn't it?

Come on.

"Is this how you like it?

"Is this how you like it?"
That's all he kept saying to me.
"Is this how you like it?

"Is this how you like it?"
That's all he kept saying to me.

- The man who made you dirty?
- Yeah.
"Is this how you like it?"
That's all he kept saying to me.

- The man who made you dirty?
- Yeah.

There you go.

Got her?
There you go.

Got her?

Stay with me.

Back in one second, okay?
Stay with me.

Back in one second, okay?

He washed her. Asked her,
"Is this how you like it?"

His favorite neighborhood,
his type, blonde, petite, single.
He washed her. Asked her,
"Is this how you like it?"

His favorite neighborhood,
his type, blonde, petite, single.

Bastard's at it again.
His favorite neighborhood,
his type, blonde, petite, single.

Bastard's at it again.

Why am I not surprised?

Law & Order SVU
2x03 Closure(2)

ORIGINAL AIR DATE ON NBC: 2000/11/03

It's him.

- It has to be him.
- Not so fast.

It's been a year since
we had Cleary in here as a suspect.
- It has to be him.
- Not so fast.

It's been a year since
we had Cleary in here as a suspect.

Same M.O. Probably came in
off the fire escape.
It's been a year since
we had Cleary in here as a suspect.

Same M.O. Probably came in
off the fire escape.

He rapes them, asks them
if they like it, he bathes them
Same M.O. Probably came in
off the fire escape.

He rapes them, asks them
if they like it, he bathes them

and then he steals a piece
of jewelry as a memento.
He rapes them, asks them
if they like it, he bathes them

and then he steals a piece
of jewelry as a memento.

It's him. Kenneth Cleary.
and then he steals a piece
of jewelry as a memento.

It's him. Kenneth Cleary.

We had him and we lost him.
It's him. Kenneth Cleary.

We had him and we lost him.

We couldn't keep him.
Not our fault.
We had him and we lost him.

We couldn't keep him.
Not our fault.

You want to tell the victim that?
We couldn't keep him.
Not our fault.

You want to tell the victim that?

Hey.

We're going to go in here.

Lori, did you open the window?

Yes.

The night, it was cool.
I like to sleep under heavy blankets.
Yes.

The night, it was cool.
I like to sleep under heavy blankets.

He pulled my blanket off me.

My shirt was over my eyes.
He pulled my blanket off me.

My shirt was over my eyes.

A button got caught in my mouth.
My shirt was over my eyes.

A button got caught in my mouth.

He hit me.

Then what happened?

He tried to kiss her.
Then what happened?

He tried to kiss her.

He tried to kiss me.

He yanked that button out of my mouth
He tried to kiss me.

He yanked that button out of my mouth

and kissed my neck.

His lips were dry.

My necklace, he ripped off.
His lips were dry.

My necklace, he ripped off.

He was inside me.

He pushed hard.

It hurt.
He pushed hard.

It hurt.

But he kept saying...

"Is this how you like it?"
But he kept saying...

"Is this how you like it?"

"Is this how you like it?"
"Is this how you like it?"

"Is this how you like it?"

He...
"Is this how you like it?"

He...

finished.

Then he brought me into the bathroom.
finished.

Then he brought me into the bathroom.

He made me take a shower.

My shirt got wet, heavy.
He made me take a shower.

My shirt got wet, heavy.

Did you see his face?
My shirt got wet, heavy.

Did you see his face?

My shirt was over my eyes.

He told me not to look.

None of his victims could ID him.
He told me not to look.

None of his victims could ID him.

Nothing from Forensics.
None of his victims could ID him.

Nothing from Forensics.

There never is with Kenneth Cleary.
Nothing from Forensics.

There never is with Kenneth Cleary.

When he heard the sirens,
he pushed me back and...
There never is with Kenneth Cleary.

When he heard the sirens,
he pushed me back and...

- I hit my head on the tiles.
- Heard the sirens?
When he heard the sirens,
he pushed me back and...

- I hit my head on the tiles.
- Heard the sirens?

Did you call the police?
- I hit my head on the tiles.
- Heard the sirens?

Did you call the police?

No.

- We got a witness.
- You move slow.
No.

- We got a witness.
- You move slow.

We go after Cleary off this,
he'll be out the door again.
- We got a witness.
- You move slow.

We go after Cleary off this,
he'll be out the door again.

- But not too slow.
- Move slow as fast as you can.
We go after Cleary off this,
he'll be out the door again.

- But not too slow.
- Move slow as fast as you can.

Public Safety Answering Center 911
Monday, October 23

There's a rape.

Right now. 88 West Franklin.
There's a rape.

Right now. 88 West Franklin.

- Now, get down!
- Get away from me!
Right now. 88 West Franklin.

- Now, get down!
- Get away from me!

I said get...
- Now, get down!
- Get away from me!

I said get...

So maybe two witnesses.
I said get...

So maybe two witnesses.

Three, if you count the dog.
So maybe two witnesses.

Three, if you count the dog.

Where'd the call come from?
Three, if you count the dog.

Where'd the call come from?

Pay phone on Franklin.

You call back?
Pay phone on Franklin.

You call back?

Pay phone blocks incoming calls.

Lori Thatcher's apartment is
on the third floor.

You can't see into her apartment
from here, though.
Lori Thatcher's apartment is
on the third floor.

You can't see into her apartment
from here, though.

So who can?
You can't see into her apartment
from here, though.

So who can?

Two apartments could see to the rape.

Look at that.

Who is it?

Mrs. Walton, New York Police.
Detectives Benson and Stabler.
Who is it?

Mrs. Walton, New York Police.
Detectives Benson and Stabler.

Can I see your badge, please?

What's wrong?

We're investigating an assault
in the building across the way.
What's wrong?

We're investigating an assault
in the building across the way.

Last night. I heard the sirens.
We're investigating an assault
in the building across the way.

Last night. I heard the sirens.

- No one's home next door.
- No, they're on vacation.
Last night. I heard the sirens.

- No one's home next door.
- No, they're on vacation.

- How long have they been gone?
- A week.
- No one's home next door.
- No, they're on vacation.

- How long have they been gone?
- A week.

They're very nice.
They give Hank...
- How long have they been gone?
- A week.

They're very nice.
They give Hank...

his last walk of the night for me
when they're here.
They're very nice.
They give Hank...

his last walk of the night for me
when they're here.

I hate it when they're gone.
his last walk of the night for me
when they're here.

I hate it when they're gone.

Your apartment looks into the apartment
where the assault took place.
I hate it when they're gone.

Your apartment looks into the apartment
where the assault took place.

I'm blind, Detective.

Yes, ma'am.

But was anybody here with you
last night? / No.
Yes, ma'am.

But was anybody here with you
last night? / No.

Billy was here, but just long
enough to take Hank out for me.
But was anybody here with you
last night? / No.

Billy was here, but just long
enough to take Hank out for me.

And what time was that?
Billy was here, but just long
enough to take Hank out for me.

And what time was that?

Oh, gosh, I don't know.
The news was on.
And what time was that?

Oh, gosh, I don't know.
The news was on.

Which news?
Oh, gosh, I don't know.
The news was on.

Which news?

The 24 hour news.
Which news?

The 24 hour news.

Okay. And Billy is?
The 24 hour news.

Okay. And Billy is?

Billy Smith.

The young man down in 1-G.
He's a doctor.
Billy Smith.

The young man down in 1-G.
He's a doctor.

Thank you very much.
The young man down in 1-G.
He's a doctor.

Thank you very much.

You know, if he's not in his apartment,
you might try the roof.
Thank you very much.

You know, if he's not in his apartment,
you might try the roof.

I thought I could hide up here.

Mrs. Walton gave you up there, Dr. Smith.
I thought I could hide up here.

Mrs. Walton gave you up there, Dr. Smith.

I'm not a doctor yet.
Mrs. Walton gave you up there, Dr. Smith.

I'm not a doctor yet.

Did you walk Mrs.
Walton's dog last night? / Yeah, Hank.
I'm not a doctor yet.

Did you walk Mrs.
Walton's dog last night? / Yeah, Hank.

What time?
Did you walk Mrs.
Walton's dog last night? / Yeah, Hank.

What time?

11:00.

Could it have been closer to 12:00?
11:00.

Could it have been closer to 12:00?

Could have been 3:00 a.m.
For all I know.
Could it have been closer to 12:00?

Could have been 3:00 a.m.
For all I know.

I got sleep deprivation,
light deprivation, time.
Could have been 3:00 a.m.
For all I know.

I got sleep deprivation,
light deprivation, time.

If I don't pass this exam...
I got sleep deprivation,
light deprivation, time.

If I don't pass this exam...

When you walked Hank,
did he bark or lunge at a woman
If I don't pass this exam...

When you walked Hank,
did he bark or lunge at a woman

using the pay phone
that's right down in front there?
When you walked Hank,
did he bark or lunge at a woman

using the pay phone
that's right down in front there?

He's a guide dog.

He's trained not to.
He's a guide dog.

He's trained not to.

Why don't you try the news stand
at the end of the block?
He's trained not to.

Why don't you try the news stand
at the end of the block?

Ginger, quiet!
Why don't you try the news stand
at the end of the block?

Ginger, quiet!

Down.
Ginger, quiet!

Down.

Sorry about that.

He can't be good for business.

- No, but he's great for theft.
- Yeah, I bet.

Last night...
- No, but he's great for theft.
- Yeah, I bet.

Last night...

did he attack a woman at the phone booth
at the end of the street?
Last night...

did he attack a woman at the phone booth
at the end of the street?

He never touched her.
I had him on the leash.
did he attack a woman at the phone booth
at the end of the street?

He never touched her.
I had him on the leash.

She's got no business calling the cops.
He never touched her.
I had him on the leash.

She's got no business calling the cops.

Actually, sir, we're investigating
another matter.
She's got no business calling the cops.

Actually, sir, we're investigating
another matter.

Think you could describe her?
Actually, sir, we're investigating
another matter.

Think you could describe her?

Blonde.

Age?
Blonde.

Age?

Thirty, maybe.
Thin, but not too thin.
Age?

Thirty, maybe.
Thin, but not too thin.

Could you describe her
to a police sketch artist?
Thirty, maybe.
Thin, but not too thin.

Could you describe her
to a police sketch artist?

I didn't get a look at her face.

I was too busy trying to get
Ginger into the car.
I didn't get a look at her face.

I was too busy trying to get
Ginger into the car.

You remember what she was wearing?
I was too busy trying to get
Ginger into the car.

You remember what she was wearing?

Yeah. A black sweater, and black slacks
and thong panties.
You remember what she was wearing?

Yeah. A black sweater, and black slacks
and thong panties.

You didn't get a look at her face but
you know she was wearing thong panties?
Yeah. A black sweater, and black slacks
and thong panties.

You didn't get a look at her face but
you know she was wearing thong panties?

I saw the panty line.
You didn't get a look at her face but
you know she was wearing thong panties?

I saw the panty line.

She had a nice ass,
I saw the panty line.

She had a nice ass,

which is more interesting to me
than her face.
She had a nice ass,

which is more interesting to me
than her face.

I'm an ass man,
I don't apologize for it.

So we have the dog,
but not the witness.

Maybe the dog can ID Cleary.
So we have the dog,
but not the witness.

Maybe the dog can ID Cleary.

We don't know that it's Cleary.
Maybe the dog can ID Cleary.

We don't know that it's Cleary.

Like hell we don't.
We don't know that it's Cleary.

Like hell we don't.

We can't make him for it yet.
Like hell we don't.

We can't make him for it yet.

You have to stay open
to the possibility it's someone else.
We can't make him for it yet.

You have to stay open
to the possibility it's someone else.

Come on, Captain.
The M.O. Matches.
You have to stay open
to the possibility it's someone else.

Come on, Captain.
The M.O. Matches.

The victims are identical types.
Their injuries are virtually identical.
Come on, Captain.
The M.O. Matches.

The victims are identical types.
Their injuries are virtually identical.

At least he's not getting rougher.
The victims are identical types.
Their injuries are virtually identical.

At least he's not getting rougher.

How is Miss Thatcher?
At least he's not getting rougher.

How is Miss Thatcher?

She coming out of shock,
going into numb.
How is Miss Thatcher?

She coming out of shock,
going into numb.

Staying at her parents.
She coming out of shock,
going into numb.

Staying at her parents.

911 call terminated at 12:03:39 a.m.

And at 12:04 another call was
made from the same pay phone.
911 call terminated at 12:03:39 a.m.

And at 12:04 another call was
made from the same pay phone.

To? / A Gramercy Park brownstone owned
by Mr. And Mrs. Kenneth Cleary.

- Let's go.
- Hold on.

Cleary's raping Lori at the same time
somebody's downstairs calling his house?
- Let's go.
- Hold on.

Cleary's raping Lori at the same time
somebody's downstairs calling his house?

I'm on it.
Cleary's raping Lori at the same time
somebody's downstairs calling his house?

I'm on it.

Cleary sees you and Stabler again
you're done before you start.
I'm on it.

Cleary sees you and Stabler again
you're done before you start.

- Mrs. Cleary?
- Yes.

Detectives Munch and Tutuola.
- Mrs. Cleary?
- Yes.

Detectives Munch and Tutuola.

Did you receive a call around midnight
last night?
Detectives Munch and Tutuola.

Did you receive a call around midnight
last night?

It's about time.
Did you receive a call around midnight
last night?

It's about time.

I've been after the phone company
for the past two months

to do something about these calls.
I've been after the phone company
for the past two months

to do something about these calls.

You've had other calls?
to do something about these calls.

You've had other calls?

Some woman's harassing me.
You've had other calls?

Some woman's harassing me.

What does this woman say?

"Your husband's a rapist."
What does this woman say?

"Your husband's a rapist."

Last night, she said,
"He's raping someone right now."
"Your husband's a rapist."

Last night, she said,
"He's raping someone right now."

Last night there was a rape in the building
by the pay phone that call was made from.
Last night, she said,
"He's raping someone right now."

Last night there was a rape in the building
by the pay phone that call was made from.

Was your husband home last night?
Last night there was a rape in the building
by the pay phone that call was made from.

Was your husband home last night?

My husband's not a rapist.

Was your husband home last night?
My husband's not a rapist.

Was your husband home last night?

Yes.

He didn't walk the dog?
Yes.

He didn't walk the dog?

We all walk the dog.
He didn't walk the dog?

We all walk the dog.

Your phone rings, someone tells you
your husband's raping someone.
We all walk the dog.

Your phone rings, someone tells you
your husband's raping someone.

- Then what?
- I went back to sleep.
Your phone rings, someone tells you
your husband's raping someone.

- Then what?
- I went back to sleep.

- You didn't call the phone company?
- I went back to sleep.
- Then what?
- I went back to sleep.

- You didn't call the phone company?
- I went back to sleep.

You didn't tell your husband?
- You didn't call the phone company?
- I went back to sleep.

You didn't tell your husband?

We don't both have to be awake
for a harassing phone call.
You didn't tell your husband?

We don't both have to be awake
for a harassing phone call.

- But he was here?
- Yes.
We don't both have to be awake
for a harassing phone call.

- But he was here?
- Yes.

I called the phone company this morning.
- But he was here?
- Yes.

I called the phone company this morning.

Did they offer to put a trap on your line?
I called the phone company this morning.

Did they offer to put a trap on your line?

Yes. But my husband doesn't want that.

They could listen to
our personal conversations.
Yes. But my husband doesn't want that.

They could listen to
our personal conversations.

And he's involved with
private financial matters.

This woman is ruining our lives.
And he's involved with
private financial matters.

This woman is ruining our lives.

Why don't you stop her?
This woman is ruining our lives.

Why don't you stop her?

- Check Cleary's phone records?
- What we're doing.

Mrs. Cleary alibi her husband?
- Check Cleary's phone records?
- What we're doing.

Mrs. Cleary alibi her husband?

Yeah, but she was choking on it.
Mrs. Cleary alibi her husband?

Yeah, but she was choking on it.

Okay, Mrs. Cleary notified the phone
company after each harassing call.

They all track to pay phones.
Okay, Mrs. Cleary notified the phone
company after each harassing call.

They all track to pay phones.

She said she ignored the first call
thinking it was a prank, right?
They all track to pay phones.

She said she ignored the first call
thinking it was a prank, right?

- That's what she said.
- Just went back a month.
She said she ignored the first call
thinking it was a prank, right?

- That's what she said.
- Just went back a month.

Found a number in our case file.

That first call came from
one of Cleary's victims...
Found a number in our case file.

That first call came from
one of Cleary's victims...

Harper Anderson.
That first call came from
one of Cleary's victims...

Harper Anderson.

Looks like she's stalking him.
Sorry, Olivia.

You should be at his place, not mine.

Harper, you can't stalk Cleary.
You should be at his place, not mine.

Harper, you can't stalk Cleary.

Stalking is illegal.
Harper, you can't stalk Cleary.

Stalking is illegal.

I survey from a legal distance.

Playing with semantics here
can be very dangerous.
I survey from a legal distance.

Playing with semantics here
can be very dangerous.

I saw him go into the alley.

By the time I got to it, he was gone.
I saw him go into the alley.

By the time I got to it, he was gone.

And I saw the fire escape.

- Did you see him on the fire escape?
- No.
And I saw the fire escape.

- Did you see him on the fire escape?
- No.

But it's how he got into
my place to rape me.
- Did you see him on the fire escape?
- No.

But it's how he got into
my place to rape me.

But you didn't see him go up it.
You didn't see him rape anyone.
But it's how he got into
my place to rape me.

But you didn't see him go up it.
You didn't see him rape anyone.

No. / And yet you called 911.
But you didn't see him go up it.
You didn't see him rape anyone.

No. / And yet you called 911.

First I circled the building to make sure
No. / And yet you called 911.

First I circled the building to make sure

that there was no way
I could've missed him.
First I circled the building to make sure

that there was no way
I could've missed him.

Then I thought about the probability
that he was raping someone.
that there was no way
I could've missed him.

Then I thought about the probability
that he was raping someone.

Then I called 911.
Then I thought about the probability
that he was raping someone.

Then I called 911.

Why didn't you stick around?

Because he ran out the service entry right
after the sirens.

I considered waiting for you guys,
but I've been down that road.

So I shadowed him.
I considered waiting for you guys,
but I've been down that road.

So I shadowed him.

Shadowed him?
So I shadowed him.

Shadowed him?

Not to be confused with stalked.
Shadowed him?

Not to be confused with stalked.

And this is art not to be confused
with obsession or a target?

It goes with the room.

- Have some wine.
- We're working.

6:00 p.m. Work day's done.

You can have a glass of wine.
6:00 p.m. Work day's done.

You can have a glass of wine.

No, thank you.
You can have a glass of wine.

No, thank you.

He's a workaholic.

He won't leave the office till 8:00.
He's a workaholic.

He won't leave the office till 8:00.

We can chat for another hour and a half.
He won't leave the office till 8:00.

We can chat for another hour and a half.

You couldn't identify him in a lineup.

How do you know he's the man
that raped you?
You couldn't identify him in a lineup.

How do you know he's the man
that raped you?

I was at his sentencing for
possession of stolen property.
How do you know he's the man
that raped you?

I was at his sentencing for
possession of stolen property.

When he left the court...
I was at his sentencing for
possession of stolen property.

When he left the court...

he winked at me.

Winked.

So who did he rape this time?

He raped someone.

Otherwise you wouldn't be here.
He raped someone.

Otherwise you wouldn't be here.

- Maybe a Scotch. Vodka?
- No, thank you.

You don't have to be so tense.
- Maybe a Scotch. Vodka?
- No, thank you.

You don't have to be so tense.

I don't expect anything from you.
You don't have to be so tense.

I don't expect anything from you.

We did everything that we could.
I don't expect anything from you.

We did everything that we could.

You couldn't ID him,
so we couldn't hold him.
We did everything that we could.

You couldn't ID him,
so we couldn't hold him.

You could have followed him.
You couldn't ID him,
so we couldn't hold him.

You could have followed him.

You knew he would rape again.
You could have followed him.

You knew he would rape again.

I'd like to follow every guy that I know
that has a propensity to rape.
You knew he would rape again.

I'd like to follow every guy that I know
that has a propensity to rape.

Poor police. So overworked!
I'd like to follow every guy that I know
that has a propensity to rape.

Poor police. So overworked!

Harper, you're not equipped
to deal with this.

I'm equipped.
I don't approach him.
Harper, you're not equipped
to deal with this.

I'm equipped.
I don't approach him.

I'm doing what
any private investigator would do
I'm equipped.
I don't approach him.

I'm doing what
any private investigator would do

and I don't need a license to
do it for myself.
I'm doing what
any private investigator would do

and I don't need a license to
do it for myself.

- You're harassing his wife.
- Give me a break!
and I don't need a license to
do it for myself.

- You're harassing his wife.
- Give me a break!

She's enabling a rapist.
- You're harassing his wife.
- Give me a break!

She's enabling a rapist.

And you're too busy to deal with him,
so I will.
She's enabling a rapist.

And you're too busy to deal with him,
so I will.

Harper Anderson is dangerous.

- I'm not certain that she's dangerous.
- She's stalking Cleary.
Harper Anderson is dangerous.

- I'm not certain that she's dangerous.
- She's stalking Cleary.

He raped her. She's following him
to catch him at it.
- I'm not certain that she's dangerous.
- She's stalking Cleary.

He raped her. She's following him
to catch him at it.

We almost got him on the Lori Thatcher
rape because of her.
He raped her. She's following him
to catch him at it.

We almost got him on the Lori Thatcher
rape because of her.

You buy into her distinguishing
between stalking and following?
We almost got him on the Lori Thatcher
rape because of her.

You buy into her distinguishing
between stalking and following?

The system failed her
You buy into her distinguishing
between stalking and following?

The system failed her

so she's operating it herself
as best she can.
The system failed her

so she's operating it herself
as best she can.

I mean, Cleary doesn't know
that she's there.
so she's operating it herself
as best she can.

I mean, Cleary doesn't know
that she's there.

She doesn't approach him,
she doesn't threaten him.
I mean, Cleary doesn't know
that she's there.

She doesn't approach him,
she doesn't threaten him.

Mrs. Cleary feels threatened.
She doesn't approach him,
she doesn't threaten him.

Mrs. Cleary feels threatened.

Sooner or later she has to face the fact
that her husband's a rapist.
Mrs. Cleary feels threatened.

Sooner or later she has to face the fact
that her husband's a rapist.

Why? She doesn't have to face it
unless we prove it.
Sooner or later she has to face the fact
that her husband's a rapist.

Why? She doesn't have to face it
unless we prove it.

And we don't want her pushed there
by Harper Anderson.
Why? She doesn't have to face it
unless we prove it.

And we don't want her pushed there
by Harper Anderson.

Street justice is always bloody.
And we don't want her pushed there
by Harper Anderson.

Street justice is always bloody.

Munch, Fin, bring Harper in here
for a blunt talking-to.

Captain... / No, you're too close to her.
Munch, Fin, bring Harper in here
for a blunt talking-to.

Captain... / No, you're too close to her.

You and Elliott get in the Clearys' faces.
Captain... / No, you're too close to her.

You and Elliott get in the Clearys' faces.

Let them know we're onto them.
It may not go to making a case
You and Elliott get in the Clearys' faces.

Let them know we're onto them.
It may not go to making a case

but I want to diffuse this tinderbox
before it blows.
Let them know we're onto them.
It may not go to making a case

but I want to diffuse this tinderbox
before it blows.

Elliott, look!

Those are mine!

You stop it!
You stop it right now!

Get out! / You can't do this!
You stop it!
You stop it right now!

Get out! / You can't do this!

Get out! / You can't do this!
Get out! / You can't do this!

Get out! / You can't do this!

My son will see these!
Get out! / You can't do this!

My son will see these!

He'll know where he comes from.
My son will see these!

He'll know where he comes from.

- You bitch!
- You're sleeping with a rapist.
He'll know where he comes from.

- You bitch!
- You're sleeping with a rapist.

- Mrs. Cleary...
- Get out of my neighborhood!

- You're enabling a rapist.
- Harper, stop it!
- Mrs. Cleary...
- Get out of my neighborhood!

- You're enabling a rapist.
- Harper, stop it!

- Mrs. Cleary, listen to me. Calm down.
- Take a breath, okay?
- You're enabling a rapist.
- Harper, stop it!

- Mrs. Cleary, listen to me. Calm down.
- Take a breath, okay?

What's going on?
- Mrs. Cleary, listen to me. Calm down.
- Take a breath, okay?

What's going on?

- She's putting these everywhere.
- Detective Stabler.
What's going on?

- She's putting these everywhere.
- Detective Stabler.

Yeah. / Look.
- She's putting these everywhere.
- Detective Stabler.

Yeah. / Look.

Two nights ago, a woman was raped.
Yeah. / Look.

Two nights ago, a woman was raped.

I was home with my wife.
Two nights ago, a woman was raped.

I was home with my wife.

You're lying. I saw you.
I was home with my wife.

You're lying. I saw you.

Every time a woman is raped
you're going to come to me?

Not every time, no.
Every time a woman is raped
you're going to come to me?

Not every time, no.

How long do I have to bear the brunt
of this woman forgetting to take her lithium?
Not every time, no.

How long do I have to bear the brunt
of this woman forgetting to take her lithium?

She's obviously damaged.
How long do I have to bear the brunt
of this woman forgetting to take her lithium?

She's obviously damaged.

Hey! Hey. / Hey!

Drop it.

Don't make me cuff you.

Perfect! Arrest me!
Don't make me cuff you.

Perfect! Arrest me!

Not the rapist.

Office of Assinstant District Attorney
Alexandra Cabot
Tuesday, October 24

We have anything else
on Lori Thatcher's rape?
Office of Assinstant District Attorney
Alexandra Cabot
Tuesday, October 24

We have anything else
on Lori Thatcher's rape?

She could do a voice ID.
We have anything else
on Lori Thatcher's rape?

She could do a voice ID.

But Cleary ain't coming down here
to see us on his own.
She could do a voice ID.

But Cleary ain't coming down here
to see us on his own.

We need probable cause.
But Cleary ain't coming down here
to see us on his own.

We need probable cause.

Harper can place Cleary exiting
Lori Thatcher's building.
We need probable cause.

Harper can place Cleary exiting
Lori Thatcher's building.

Her building, not her apartment.
Harper can place Cleary exiting
Lori Thatcher's building.

Her building, not her apartment.

After that stunt Harper pulled with
Cleary's car, she's zero as a witness.
Her building, not her apartment.

After that stunt Harper pulled with
Cleary's car, she's zero as a witness.

And there's still the problem
of Harper stalking Cleary.
After that stunt Harper pulled with
Cleary's car, she's zero as a witness.

And there's still the problem
of Harper stalking Cleary.

Harper's taking control of her own life.
And there's still the problem
of Harper stalking Cleary.

Harper's taking control of her own life.

Please.
Harper's taking control of her own life.

Please.

As long as Cleary's out there,
so's his next victim.
Please.

As long as Cleary's out there,
so's his next victim.

He'll stay out there until
we can make a case.
As long as Cleary's out there,
so's his next victim.

He'll stay out there until
we can make a case.

We need to pick up where Harper left off.

I'm all for that.

I can't authorize overtime to follow Cleary.
I'm all for that.

I can't authorize overtime to follow Cleary.

Anyone asking for it?

Are you with us?
He's likely to call in lawyers.

If you don't interfere with his conducting
his life, I'll field any motion he files.
Are you with us?
He's likely to call in lawyers.

If you don't interfere with his conducting
his life, I'll field any motion he files.

Bingo.
If you don't interfere with his conducting
his life, I'll field any motion he files.

Bingo.

Miro Venture Capital
130 West 31st Street
Tuesday, October 24

- So you take care of that part of it.
- Okay.

Don't forget.
What are you doing here?
- So you take care of that part of it.
- Okay.

Don't forget.
What are you doing here?

We're going to go see your boss.

Got a problem with that?

No. No.
Got a problem with that?

No. No.

Around the corner on the left.
No. No.

Around the corner on the left.

We're investigating a serial rapist.

What can you tell us about Kenneth Cleary?
We're investigating a serial rapist.

What can you tell us about Kenneth Cleary?

What's he have to do with that?
What can you tell us about Kenneth Cleary?

What's he have to do with that?

Is he a good employee?
What's he have to do with that?

Is he a good employee?

Is he involved in a rape?
Is he a good employee?

Is he involved in a rape?

What's he like to work with?

He's a workaholic.

One of our top earners.
He's a workaholic.

One of our top earners.

So he works late?
One of our top earners.

So he works late?

He's here when I arrive
and he is here when I leave.
So he works late?

He's here when I arrive
and he is here when I leave.

We lost two assistants who couldn't
keep up with him in Philadelphia.
He's here when I arrive
and he is here when I leave.

We lost two assistants who couldn't
keep up with him in Philadelphia.

We're opening a branch there.
We lost two assistants who couldn't
keep up with him in Philadelphia.

We're opening a branch there.

He go there a lot?
We're opening a branch there.

He go there a lot?

Spends half his time there.
He go there a lot?

Spends half his time there.

You think he raped someone?

He has a misdemeanor conviction
for possession of stolen property.

He spend the night in Philly?
He has a misdemeanor conviction
for possession of stolen property.

He spend the night in Philly?

Yes.

We have a corporate apartment.
Yes.

We have a corporate apartment.

Could we see his travel records?
We have a corporate apartment.

Could we see his travel records?

Had to tell the boss I was convicted
on possession of stolen property?

- Public record, pal.
- You're trying to get me canned?
Had to tell the boss I was convicted
on possession of stolen property?

- Public record, pal.
- You're trying to get me canned?

I brought the company
in $58 million last quarter.
- Public record, pal.
- You're trying to get me canned?

I brought the company
in $58 million last quarter.

He'll live with a misdemeanor conviction.
I brought the company
in $58 million last quarter.

He'll live with a misdemeanor conviction.

And a rapist?
He'll live with a misdemeanor conviction.

And a rapist?

Let me ask you something,
one hungry man to another.
And a rapist?

Let me ask you something,
one hungry man to another.

Is there anything better than gorging
on a fresh caught meal?
Let me ask you something,
one hungry man to another.

Is there anything better than gorging
on a fresh caught meal?

You won't be eating out anymore.

Going back six months.

Three rapes in Philadelphia
have Cleary's signature.
Going back six months.

Three rapes in Philadelphia
have Cleary's signature.

June 13.

He was there. The 10th to the 20th.

August 26?
He was there. The 10th to the 20th.

August 26?

There, the 23rd to the 28th.
August 26?

There, the 23rd to the 28th.

- September 15.
- There.
There, the 23rd to the 28th.

- September 15.
- There.

They got him booked
on Amtrak to go there tomorrow.

- Who booked to go where?
- Cleary to Philadelphia.
They got him booked
on Amtrak to go there tomorrow.

- Who booked to go where?
- Cleary to Philadelphia.

Then you're going too, John.
- Who booked to go where?
- Cleary to Philadelphia.

Then you're going too, John.

What a coincidence. Why?

You found rapes that match
Cleary's M.O.?

Three. / You're interviewing
the victims face to face.
You found rapes that match
Cleary's M.O.?

Three. / You're interviewing
the victims face to face.

Something wrong with the facts?
Three. / You're interviewing
the victims face to face.

Something wrong with the facts?

Philadelphia's SVU is under review for
dumping rapes as unfounded.
Something wrong with the facts?

Philadelphia's SVU is under review for
dumping rapes as unfounded.

So, yes, there's absolutely
something wrong with the facts.
Philadelphia's SVU is under review for
dumping rapes as unfounded.

So, yes, there's absolutely
something wrong with the facts.

I don't trust them.
So, yes, there's absolutely
something wrong with the facts.

I don't trust them.

There he is.

Hey, Ken Cleary.
A little jumpy this morning?

Love to talk, Det. Munch,
but I've got a train to catch.
Hey, Ken Cleary.
A little jumpy this morning?

Love to talk, Det. Munch,
but I've got a train to catch.

Yeah, Philadelphia club car.
Love to talk, Det. Munch,
but I've got a train to catch.

Yeah, Philadelphia club car.

We're going coach.
Yeah, Philadelphia club car.

We're going coach.

But if you feel the need to talk to me,
I'm willing to upgrade.
We're going coach.

But if you feel the need to talk to me,
I'm willing to upgrade.

What's the agenda here, gentlemen?
But if you feel the need to talk to me,
I'm willing to upgrade.

What's the agenda here, gentlemen?

- You trying to make me crazy?
- Hell, no.
What's the agenda here, gentlemen?

- You trying to make me crazy?
- Hell, no.

Way too late for that.
- You trying to make me crazy?
- Hell, no.

Way too late for that.

And you are?
Way too late for that.

And you are?

The knot in the pit of your stomach.
And you are?

The knot in the pit of your stomach.

Hate to disappoint you. But I don't
mind the company or the attention.
The knot in the pit of your stomach.

Hate to disappoint you. But I don't
mind the company or the attention.

So there's no need to ask.
Is this how you like it?
Hate to disappoint you. But I don't
mind the company or the attention.

So there's no need to ask.
Is this how you like it?

Pennsylvania Station

What have we got?

A list and description of jewelry stolen
during rapes, matching the Cleary M.O.
What have we got?

A list and description of jewelry stolen
during rapes, matching the Cleary M.O.

Three here, three in Philadelphia.
A list and description of jewelry stolen
during rapes, matching the Cleary M.O.

Three here, three in Philadelphia.

Munch just faxed these from the Philly P.D.
Three here, three in Philadelphia.

Munch just faxed these from the Philly P.D.

For what purpose?
Munch just faxed these from the Philly P.D.

For what purpose?

Show Mrs. Cleary.
See if she has any of these pieces.
For what purpose?

Show Mrs. Cleary.
See if she has any of these pieces.

If she's an accessory, she'll deny it.
Show Mrs. Cleary.
See if she has any of these pieces.

If she's an accessory, she'll deny it.

What are the odds that
she's an accessory to rape?
If she's an accessory, she'll deny it.

What are the odds that
she's an accessory to rape?

I agree, they're remote.
The odds are that she's in denial.
What are the odds that
she's an accessory to rape?

I agree, they're remote.
The odds are that she's in denial.

Who wouldn't be?
But it's still risky.
I agree, they're remote.
The odds are that she's in denial.

Who wouldn't be?
But it's still risky.

What about the issue of spousal privilege?
Who wouldn't be?
But it's still risky.

What about the issue of spousal privilege?

I'm not going to ask her
anything about her husband's rapes.
What about the issue of spousal privilege?

I'm not going to ask her
anything about her husband's rapes.

I'm going to show her that list.
I'm not going to ask her
anything about her husband's rapes.

I'm going to show her that list.

If she's unwittingly in possession
of stolen property
I'm going to show her that list.

If she's unwittingly in possession
of stolen property

it might turn up the heat at home.
We've pressed him at work.
If she's unwittingly in possession
of stolen property

it might turn up the heat at home.
We've pressed him at work.

We've run out of plays to make here.

- So, what, a Hail Mary?
- Okay.
We've run out of plays to make here.

- So, what, a Hail Mary?
- Okay.

She's going to be defensive.
- So, what, a Hail Mary?
- Okay.

She's going to be defensive.

I'm sensitive to that.
She's going to be defensive.

I'm sensitive to that.

And you are?
I'm sensitive to that.

And you are?

Taking some quasi-personal time.

I called Harper last night because
I felt like I dropped the ball with her

- so I'm going to meet her for coffee.
- Where?
I called Harper last night because
I felt like I dropped the ball with her

- so I'm going to meet her for coffee.
- Where?

Westside Range.
I'll see you later.
- so I'm going to meet her for coffee.
- Where?

Westside Range.
I'll see you later.

You're meeting her at firing range?
Westside Range.
I'll see you later.

You're meeting her at firing range?

I know. She's permitted.
You're meeting her at firing range?

I know. She's permitted.

Special Victims Unit
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Wednesday, October 25

Detectives Munch and Tutuola
are from New York City.
Special Victims Unit
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Wednesday, October 25

Detectives Munch and Tutuola
are from New York City.

They may have a lead on
the man who raped you.
Detectives Munch and Tutuola
are from New York City.

They may have a lead on
the man who raped you.

I know it's difficult but if
you can tell your story again.

I woke up choking on a pillow.

He told me to keep my eyes closed...

and then he took the pillow out of the case
He told me to keep my eyes closed...

and then he took the pillow out of the case

and held the pillow case over my eyes.
and then he took the pillow out of the case

and held the pillow case over my eyes.

He held my T-shirt over my eyes.
and held the pillow case over my eyes.

He held my T-shirt over my eyes.

He pulled my nightshirt over my face
so I couldn't see him.
He held my T-shirt over my eyes.

He pulled my nightshirt over my face
so I couldn't see him.

He asked, "Is this how you like it?"
He pulled my nightshirt over my face
so I couldn't see him.

He asked, "Is this how you like it?"

"Is this how you like it?"
He asked, "Is this how you like it?"

"Is this how you like it?"

"Is this how you like it?"

After he raped me, he made me shower.

My hot water was broken.
After he raped me, he made me shower.

My hot water was broken.

He washed me.
My hot water was broken.

He washed me.

He had me in a cold shower...

washing his semen off me.

I asked him if his mother knew
what he was doing.

He said his mother just wanted him
to be happy.

- Mrs. Cleary, Detective Stabler.
- I don't want to talk to you.

Mrs. Cleary...

rape victims aren't just the women
who are attacked.
Mrs. Cleary...

rape victims aren't just the women
who are attacked.

Rape victims include their families
and the rapist's families.
rape victims aren't just the women
who are attacked.

Rape victims include their families
and the rapist's families.

I am not a victim.

And I don't want you standing on my stoop
shouting "rape" through my door.
I am not a victim.

And I don't want you standing on my stoop
shouting "rape" through my door.

Yes, ma'am.
And I don't want you standing on my stoop
shouting "rape" through my door.

Yes, ma'am.

You're harassing me.
Yes, ma'am.

You're harassing me.

Destroying my family.
When does this stop?
You're harassing me.

Destroying my family.
When does this stop?

Right now.
Destroying my family.
When does this stop?

Right now.

This is a list of jewelry and
the dates they were taken

during rapes we suspect your husband in.
This is a list of jewelry and
the dates they were taken

during rapes we suspect your husband in.

My husband makes money.
during rapes we suspect your husband in.

My husband makes money.

He doesn't need to steal
to give me jewelry.
My husband makes money.

He doesn't need to steal
to give me jewelry.

I'm talking about a sickness here,
Mrs. Cleary.
He doesn't need to steal
to give me jewelry.

I'm talking about a sickness here,
Mrs. Cleary.

Serial rapists very often take items

so that they can look at them
and remember.
Serial rapists very often take items

so that they can look at them
and remember.

Your trophies, like your jewelry...
so that they can look at them
and remember.

Your trophies, like your jewelry...

allow your husband to relive the rapes
Your trophies, like your jewelry...

allow your husband to relive the rapes

so that he can become excited.
I am sorry to put you through this.
allow your husband to relive the rapes

so that he can become excited.
I am sorry to put you through this.

I know this is a terrible ordeal for you
but it is worse for the victims.

And quite frankly,
I don't know where else to turn.

I won't bother you again.

Nice grouping.

What are you using?

.50 caliber, double action Desert Eagle.
What are you using?

.50 caliber, double action Desert Eagle.

14-shot clip.
.50 caliber, double action Desert Eagle.

14-shot clip.

Took me a month to learn
how to hold it level.
14-shot clip.

Took me a month to learn
how to hold it level.

This sucker's nearly 40 ounces
with a full load.

Harper, a 14-round clip is illegal
in New York.
This sucker's nearly 40 ounces
with a full load.

Harper, a 14-round clip is illegal
in New York.

Here.

Didn't know that.
Here.

Didn't know that.

Eight is plenty.

That gun's pretty extreme.

Why?

A.50 caliber semi-auto
with a 14-round clip?

It's practically an assault rifle.
A.50 caliber semi-auto
with a 14-round clip?

It's practically an assault rifle.

I just gave you the clip.
It's practically an assault rifle.

I just gave you the clip.

You're something else.

- What?
- You think I'm Velma Vigilante...

stalking Cleary, waiting for
the perfect moment to shoot him?
- What?
- You think I'm Velma Vigilante...

stalking Cleary, waiting for
the perfect moment to shoot him?

That's not who I am.
stalking Cleary, waiting for
the perfect moment to shoot him?

That's not who I am.

You're not the same person
I knew six months ago.
That's not who I am.

You're not the same person
I knew six months ago.

I was a rape victim when you met me.
You're not the same person
I knew six months ago.

I was a rape victim when you met me.

I finally have control over my life back.
I was a rape victim when you met me.

I finally have control over my life back.

I'm not interested in revenge.

I'm not even interested in justice anymore.
I'm not interested in revenge.

I'm not even interested in justice anymore.

Then why follow Cleary?
I'm not even interested in justice anymore.

Then why follow Cleary?

Because I'm afraid of him,
and he's the last thing I'm afraid of.

If I can get over that I will
have my life back completely.
Because I'm afraid of him,
and he's the last thing I'm afraid of.

If I can get over that I will
have my life back completely.

You want to go for a drink?

There's a little Spanish place
around the corner.

Tapas and Sangria?

I would have bet the new old Harper
to be a Whiskey Park girl.

I haven't cruised a chichi date bar
since I was raped.
I would have bet the new old Harper
to be a Whiskey Park girl.

I haven't cruised a chichi date bar
since I was raped.

- I was just writing you a note.
- Really?

I'm sorry for what happened to you.
- I was just writing you a note.
- Really?

I'm sorry for what happened to you.

You didn't do it, Mrs. Cleary.

But you said I was enabling a rapist.
You didn't do it, Mrs. Cleary.

But you said I was enabling a rapist.

- I shouldn't have.
- He's my husband.
But you said I was enabling a rapist.

- I shouldn't have.
- He's my husband.

I feel responsible for...

I feel guilty.
I want you to know that.
I feel responsible for...

I feel guilty.
I want you to know that.

What made you change your mind?

My husband has always
surprised me with his

no-special-occasion gifts.
My husband has always
surprised me with his

no-special-occasion gifts.

A silver ring next to my coffee cup.
no-special-occasion gifts.

A silver ring next to my coffee cup.

That opal ring on my pillow.

He'd get so excited when I tried them on.

I thought it was romantic.

- Six of the pieces match.
- The rest?

He gave them to me the same way.
Don't want them.

Did your husband ever discuss with you
how he came by the jewelry?

Don't answer that. Spousal privilege.
Did your husband ever discuss with you
how he came by the jewelry?

Don't answer that. Spousal privilege.

Excuse me for a moment.
Don't answer that. Spousal privilege.

Excuse me for a moment.

- Do you want some privacy?
- No.
Excuse me for a moment.

- Do you want some privacy?
- No.

I'll just take a second.
- Do you want some privacy?
- No.

I'll just take a second.

I can't take it.

I can't take it.
Come home.
I can't take it.

I can't take it.
Come home.

No, you have to come home now.
I can't take it.
Come home.

No, you have to come home now.

He'll be on the next train from Philadelphia.

I can't tolerate any more of this.

You follow me to work,
you follow me to Philadelphia. Fine.
I can't tolerate any more of this.

You follow me to work,
you follow me to Philadelphia. Fine.

But you make my wife hysterical and that,
my friends, will cost you.
You follow me to work,
you follow me to Philadelphia. Fine.

But you make my wife hysterical and that,
my friends, will cost you.

I'm gonna call my lawyer and
the Police Commissioner.
But you make my wife hysterical and that,
my friends, will cost you.

I'm gonna call my lawyer and
the Police Commissioner.

You might want to stick
with just your lawyer for now.
I'm gonna call my lawyer and
the Police Commissioner.

You might want to stick
with just your lawyer for now.

Kenneth Cleary, you're under arrest.
You might want to stick
with just your lawyer for now.

Kenneth Cleary, you're under arrest.

You have the right to remain silent.
Kenneth Cleary, you're under arrest.

You have the right to remain silent.

Anything you say can and will be used
against you in a court of law.
You have the right to remain silent.

Anything you say can and will be used
against you in a court of law.

You have the right to an attorney.
Anything you say can and will be used
against you in a court of law.

You have the right to an attorney.

If you cannot afford an attorney one
will be appointed...

Are you ready?

Yes.
Are you ready?

Yes.

Can I close my eyes?

Yes.
Can I close my eyes?

Yes.

Would you have them each say,
"Is this how you like it?", please.

Is this how you like it?

Is this how you like it?

Is this how you like it?

Is this how you like it?

It's him.
Is this how you like it?

It's him.

It's him.

Very entertaining.

How many more shows are there today?
Very entertaining.

How many more shows are there today?

Is this how you like it?

Is this how you like it?

Is this how you like it?

Is this how you like it?

Bastard.
Is this how you like it?

Bastard.

That's him.

That's him. It's Number 4.

We have one more.

I don't have to be here.
I'm sure your report will be accurate.

See you in court.
I don't have to be here.
I'm sure your report will be accurate.

See you in court.

Arraignment Court Part 69
Friday, October 27

"File number 492276."
Arraignment Court Part 69
Friday, October 27

"File number 492276."

"People verses Kenneth Cleary."
"File number 492276."

"People verses Kenneth Cleary."

"One count rape in the first degree"

"one count sexual abuse in the first degree"
"One count rape in the first degree"

"one count sexual abuse in the first degree"

"one count robbery in the second degree"
"one count sexual abuse in the first degree"

"one count robbery in the second degree"

"and three counts criminal possession
of stolen property in the fifth."
"one count robbery in the second degree"

"and three counts criminal possession
of stolen property in the fifth."

Quite a list.

- How do you plead?
- Not guilty.
Quite a list.

- How do you plead?
- Not guilty.

Exactly how much we planning
to charge the defendant
- How do you plead?
- Not guilty.

Exactly how much we planning
to charge the defendant

to get out of jail, Ms. Cabot?
Exactly how much we planning
to charge the defendant

to get out of jail, Ms. Cabot?

Remand without bail, Your Honor.

Put away your claws, Counselor.
Remand without bail, Your Honor.

Put away your claws, Counselor.

My client is not a flight risk.
He's a pillar of the community.
Put away your claws, Counselor.

My client is not a flight risk.
He's a pillar of the community.

If you define pillar as a seven-figure salary.

And if he can afford you,
he can afford to fly.
If you define pillar as a seven-figure salary.

And if he can afford you,
he can afford to fly.

Mr. Cleary is willing to surrender
his passport, Your Honor.
And if he can afford you,
he can afford to fly.

Mr. Cleary is willing to surrender
his passport, Your Honor.

Your Honor, he is a menace to women.
Mr. Cleary is willing to surrender
his passport, Your Honor.

Your Honor, he is a menace to women.

His crimes are not confined
to the State of New York.
Your Honor, he is a menace to women.

His crimes are not confined
to the State of New York.

The People have had my client under
surveillance even across state lines.
His crimes are not confined
to the State of New York.

The People have had my client under
surveillance even across state lines.

Their continued harassment
should assuage their fears.
The People have had my client under
surveillance even across state lines.

Their continued harassment
should assuage their fears.

- Is that true, Ms. Cabot?
- No.
Their continued harassment
should assuage their fears.

- Is that true, Ms. Cabot?
- No.

SVU detectives went to Philadelphia
to interview Mr. Cleary's victims.
- Is that true, Ms. Cabot?
- No.

SVU detectives went to Philadelphia
to interview Mr. Cleary's victims.

- Objection.
- Be quiet.
SVU detectives went to Philadelphia
to interview Mr. Cleary's victims.

- Objection.
- Be quiet.

I still need a number.

$500,000.
I still need a number.

$500,000.

- Let's double that.
- No objection.

Is that the best you could do?

You shouldn't be here, Mrs. Cleary.
You're my witness.
Is that the best you could do?

You shouldn't be here, Mrs. Cleary.
You're my witness.

I thought maybe there was
a chance I was wrong.
You shouldn't be here, Mrs. Cleary.
You're my witness.

I thought maybe there was
a chance I was wrong.

I saw how he looked at you, and I knew.
I thought maybe there was
a chance I was wrong.

I saw how he looked at you, and I knew.

We should get together soon
so I can prep you before the trial.
I saw how he looked at you, and I knew.

We should get together soon
so I can prep you before the trial.

I'm staying with my family in Long Island.
We should get together soon
so I can prep you before the trial.

I'm staying with my family in Long Island.

Is there anything I can do for you now?
I'm staying with my family in Long Island.

Is there anything I can do for you now?

You know a good divorce lawyer?
Is there anything I can do for you now?

You know a good divorce lawyer?

I don't know if she can do this.

A moment, Ms. Cabot.
I don't know if she can do this.

A moment, Ms. Cabot.

I'm Harper Anderson, Mr. Klein.

Your client raped me.
I'm Harper Anderson, Mr. Klein.

Your client raped me.

I know how famous you are.

Yes?
I know how famous you are.

Yes?

You're going to burn in hell.

I'm Jewish, Miss Anderson.
There is no hell.
You're going to burn in hell.

I'm Jewish, Miss Anderson.
There is no hell.

Excuse us.
I'm Jewish, Miss Anderson.
There is no hell.

Excuse us.

Save me the bedtime reading.
How many motions are you filing?

Omnibus. In limine, to suppress,
and spousal privilege.
Save me the bedtime reading.
How many motions are you filing?

Omnibus. In limine, to suppress,
and spousal privilege.

- See you in judge's chambers.
- Yeah.

Chambers of Judge Margaret Barry
Monday, October 30

Spousal privilege is inviolate.
Chambers of Judge Margaret Barry
Monday, October 30

Spousal privilege is inviolate.

Discovery was made through the wife.
Spousal privilege is inviolate.

Discovery was made through the wife.

Give me a good reason not
to throw out the jewelry.
Discovery was made through the wife.

Give me a good reason not
to throw out the jewelry.

It doesn't fall under privilege.
Give me a good reason not
to throw out the jewelry.

It doesn't fall under privilege.

Nobody asked Cleary's wife
where he got the jewelry.
It doesn't fall under privilege.

Nobody asked Cleary's wife
where he got the jewelry.

Would anyone care for lemon?
Nobody asked Cleary's wife
where he got the jewelry.

Would anyone care for lemon?

Communication between a husband
and wife is not limited to speech.

The police went to the Cleary home
with the express purpose of discovery.
Communication between a husband
and wife is not limited to speech.

The police went to the Cleary home
with the express purpose of discovery.

They should have handed
the list to Mr. Cleary.
The police went to the Cleary home
with the express purpose of discovery.

They should have handed
the list to Mr. Cleary.

He would have turned over the items.

He gets his gifts from various sources,
which he would have revealed.
He would have turned over the items.

He gets his gifts from various sources,
which he would have revealed.

But in an effort to disrupt his family
He gets his gifts from various sources,
which he would have revealed.

But in an effort to disrupt his family

the police went to his wife to induce her
to violate spousal privilege.
But in an effort to disrupt his family

the police went to his wife to induce her
to violate spousal privilege.

The court can't support that.
the police went to his wife to induce her
to violate spousal privilege.

The court can't support that.

The jewelry has to be excluded.
The court can't support that.

The jewelry has to be excluded.

The police did not ask Mrs. Cleary
The jewelry has to be excluded.

The police did not ask Mrs. Cleary

any questions regarding
her husband's activities.
The police did not ask Mrs. Cleary

any questions regarding
her husband's activities.

They presented her with the list
of stolen items.
any questions regarding
her husband's activities.

They presented her with the list
of stolen items.

She discovered she had several
pieces of jewelry on that list.
They presented her with the list
of stolen items.

She discovered she had several
pieces of jewelry on that list.

- And she turned them in.
- Please, Ms. Cabot.
She discovered she had several
pieces of jewelry on that list.

- And she turned them in.
- Please, Ms. Cabot.

Don't you consider him giving
her jewelry an activity?
- And she turned them in.
- Please, Ms. Cabot.

Don't you consider him giving
her jewelry an activity?

Limit the scope to receipt
of the jewelry and by whom.
Don't you consider him giving
her jewelry an activity?

Limit the scope to receipt
of the jewelry and by whom.

- But Your Honor, it's...
- Next item.
Limit the scope to receipt
of the jewelry and by whom.

- But Your Honor, it's...
- Next item.

Voice ID.
- But Your Honor, it's...
- Next item.

Voice ID.

This is a stretch under the best of
circumstances.
Voice ID.

This is a stretch under the best of
circumstances.

But a terrified victim hearing the
breathless voice of an aroused perpetrator
This is a stretch under the best of
circumstances.

But a terrified victim hearing the
breathless voice of an aroused perpetrator

during the commission of a violent act?
But a terrified victim hearing the
breathless voice of an aroused perpetrator

during the commission of a violent act?

I don't think so.

You'll have your chance to undermine
the identification during cross.
I don't think so.

You'll have your chance to undermine
the identification during cross.

More tea?
You'll have your chance to undermine
the identification during cross.

More tea?

Supreme Court Trial Part 78
Friday, November 3

That's how I knew it was him.
Supreme Court Trial Part 78
Friday, November 3

That's how I knew it was him.

Thank you.

You identified the man
who raped you, is that correct?

Yes. Kenneth Cleary.
You identified the man
who raped you, is that correct?

Yes. Kenneth Cleary.

But you didn't actually see him, did you?

No. / You identified him
by voice, is that correct?
But you didn't actually see him, did you?

No. / You identified him
by voice, is that correct?

Yes.
No. / You identified him
by voice, is that correct?

Yes.

I'd know that voice anywhere.
Yes.

I'd know that voice anywhere.

Is this how you like it?

Do you recognize this voice,
Ms. Thatcher?
Is this how you like it?

Do you recognize this voice,
Ms. Thatcher?

No.

- I can play it again.
- Objection. Asked and answered.
No.

- I can play it again.
- Objection. Asked and answered.

Hearing this surprised the witness,
Your Honor.
- I can play it again.
- Objection. Asked and answered.

Hearing this surprised the witness,
Your Honor.

Maybe she'd like to hear it again
to make sure. / Go ahead.
Hearing this surprised the witness,
Your Honor.

Maybe she'd like to hear it again
to make sure. / Go ahead.

Is this how you like it?

Do you recognize the voice?
Is this how you like it?

Do you recognize the voice?

- Does it sound vaguely familiar?
- Objection.
Do you recognize the voice?

- Does it sound vaguely familiar?
- Objection.

- He's badgering.
- Sustained.
- Does it sound vaguely familiar?
- Objection.

- He's badgering.
- Sustained.

Yes, Your Honor.
- He's badgering.
- Sustained.

Yes, Your Honor.

The man on the tape is a co-worker.

You talk to him every day.
The man on the tape is a co-worker.

You talk to him every day.

Robert. / You don't recognize his voice,
how can you recognize...

Objection!
Robert. / You don't recognize his voice,
how can you recognize...

Objection!

Sustained. Back off, Mr. Shoenfeld.
Objection!

Sustained. Back off, Mr. Shoenfeld.

How did you come into possession
of this garnet necklace?

It was a gift from my husband.
How did you come into possession
of this garnet necklace?

It was a gift from my husband.

- He gave it to me...
- Wait for the next question.
It was a gift from my husband.

- He gave it to me...
- Wait for the next question.

Your answers need to be
very narrow and very specific.
- He gave it to me...
- Wait for the next question.

Your answers need to be
very narrow and very specific.

Why are you only asking about how
I came into possession of the jewelry?

I can't ask about anything else.
Why are you only asking about how
I came into possession of the jewelry?

I can't ask about anything else.

Why not?
I can't ask about anything else.

Why not?

Communication between husband
and wife is inadmissible.

It's as privileged as priest and supplicant.
Communication between husband
and wife is inadmissible.

It's as privileged as priest and supplicant.

You aren't going to ask me about
how excited he got when I wore them?
It's as privileged as priest and supplicant.

You aren't going to ask me about
how excited he got when I wore them?

How he insisted I wear them
before we had sex? / I can't.
You aren't going to ask me about
how excited he got when I wore them?

How he insisted I wear them
before we had sex? / I can't.

I wish I could but I'm not allowed
to ask about that.
How he insisted I wear them
before we had sex? / I can't.

I wish I could but I'm not allowed
to ask about that.

Do you understand?
I wish I could but I'm not allowed
to ask about that.

Do you understand?

The jewelry is important, Mrs. Cleary.
Do you understand?

The jewelry is important, Mrs. Cleary.

Because we need to connect
the timeline to the rapes
The jewelry is important, Mrs. Cleary.

Because we need to connect
the timeline to the rapes

so that your husband
won't be able to duck
Because we need to connect
the timeline to the rapes

so that your husband
won't be able to duck

by claiming that he purchased swag
from some guy on Canal Street.
so that your husband
won't be able to duck

by claiming that he purchased swag
from some guy on Canal Street.

- He wants joint custody of our son.
- And he's not going to get it.
by claiming that he purchased swag
from some guy on Canal Street.

- He wants joint custody of our son.
- And he's not going to get it.

- If he gets off...
- One thing at a time, okay?
- He wants joint custody of our son.
- And he's not going to get it.

- If he gets off...
- One thing at a time, okay?

Okay.

How did you come into possession
of this garnet necklace?

My husband gave it to me.
How did you come into possession
of this garnet necklace?

My husband gave it to me.

- Was it a special occasion?
- No.

Do you remember
when he gave it to you?

Kenneth gave it to me on his return
from a business trip to Philadelphia.
Do you remember
when he gave it to you?

Kenneth gave it to me on his return
from a business trip to Philadelphia.

- September 6.
- Objection.
Kenneth gave it to me on his return
from a business trip to Philadelphia.

- September 6.
- Objection.

The witness couldn't possibly remember
the dates of every gift she received.
- September 6.
- Objection.

The witness couldn't possibly remember
the dates of every gift she received.

Mrs. Cleary, how is it that
you recall this date?
The witness couldn't possibly remember
the dates of every gift she received.

Mrs. Cleary, how is it that
you recall this date?

It was our son's first day of kindergarten.
Mrs. Cleary, how is it that
you recall this date?

It was our son's first day of kindergarten.

Kenneth made sure he was home for that.
It was our son's first day of kindergarten.

Kenneth made sure he was home for that.

He left the necklace on my pillow
the night before.
Kenneth made sure he was home for that.

He left the necklace on my pillow
the night before.

Overruled.
He left the necklace on my pillow
the night before.

Overruled.

Did you know this necklace belongs
to a woman who was raped
Overruled.

Did you know this necklace belongs
to a woman who was raped

- on September 5 in Philadelphia?
- Objection. Relevance.
Did you know this necklace belongs
to a woman who was raped

- on September 5 in Philadelphia?
- Objection. Relevance.

Sustained.
- on September 5 in Philadelphia?
- Objection. Relevance.

Sustained.

You're on thin ice Ms. Cabot.
Stick to the scope.

Mrs. Cleary, do you recognize this ring?

I do.

And do you remember how you
came into possession of it?
I do.

And do you remember how you
came into possession of it?

My husband gave it to me.
And do you remember how you
came into possession of it?

My husband gave it to me.

- Do you remember when?
- Yes.
My husband gave it to me.

- Do you remember when?
- Yes.

I remember because we were
dressing for a charity event.
- Do you remember when?
- Yes.

I remember because we were
dressing for a charity event.

He asked me to try it on
and then he got so excited,
I remember because we were
dressing for a charity event.

He asked me to try it on
and then he got so excited,

he had to have sex with me.
He asked me to try it on
and then he got so excited,

he had to have sex with me.

Objection.
he had to have sex with me.

Objection.

- He'd get so excited...
- Mrs. Cleary, stop.

if I wouldn't have sex with him
he'd masturbate. / Objection.
- He'd get so excited...
- Mrs. Cleary, stop.

if I wouldn't have sex with him
he'd masturbate. / Objection.

- Mrs. Cleary...
- You had me wear your trophies...
if I wouldn't have sex with him
he'd masturbate. / Objection.

- Mrs. Cleary...
- You had me wear your trophies...

so that you could get off?
You sick, twisted bastard!
- Mrs. Cleary...
- You had me wear your trophies...

so that you could get off?
You sick, twisted bastard!

I move for an immediate mistrial.

The witness is clearly hysterical
and has done irreparable harm to the jury.
I move for an immediate mistrial.

The witness is clearly hysterical
and has done irreparable harm to the jury.

Granted.
The witness is clearly hysterical
and has done irreparable harm to the jury.

Granted.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury...

You are excused.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury...

You are excused.

I'm sorry.

Approach.
I'm sorry.

Approach.

I'm so sorry.
Approach.

I'm so sorry.

I hold you responsible, Ms. Cabot.

You knew the limits set before you.

You prepped your witness.
You knew the limits set before you.

You prepped your witness.

You knew she was in a severe
and emotional state

and you now have the pleasure
of starting over.
You knew she was in a severe
and emotional state

and you now have the pleasure
of starting over.

In the interim...
and you now have the pleasure
of starting over.

In the interim...

I sincerely hope you acquire
some professionalism.
In the interim...

I sincerely hope you acquire
some professionalism.

- I'm sorry.
- It's okay.

You're not having any?

AA.
You're not having any?

AA.

How are you holding up?

I felt like I was 10 years
old today getting yelled at
How are you holding up?

I felt like I was 10 years
old today getting yelled at

for playing in my mother's make-up.
I felt like I was 10 years
old today getting yelled at

for playing in my mother's make-up.

- We can't do this again.
- Why?

We've got no case.
- We can't do this again.
- Why?

We've got no case.

The dream team blew holes
in the victim's IDs. And Mrs. Cleary...
We've got no case.

The dream team blew holes
in the victim's IDs. And Mrs. Cleary...

I think she sabotaged us on purpose.
The dream team blew holes
in the victim's IDs. And Mrs. Cleary...

I think she sabotaged us on purpose.

What would she hope to
gain by doing that?
I think she sabotaged us on purpose.

What would she hope to
gain by doing that?

I don't know.
What would she hope to
gain by doing that?

I don't know.

Kenneth Cleary walks,
and the People get a black eye.

So it's all about you?
Kenneth Cleary walks,
and the People get a black eye.

So it's all about you?

I don't need this, Cragen.

No?
I don't need this, Cragen.

No?

While you're whining about your case
seems you forgot about Harper Anderson
No?

While you're whining about your case
seems you forgot about Harper Anderson

Lori Thatcher, the women in Philly.
While you're whining about your case
seems you forgot about Harper Anderson

Lori Thatcher, the women in Philly.

- Don't forget Mrs. Cleary.
- The biggest victim of all.
Lori Thatcher, the women in Philly.

- Don't forget Mrs. Cleary.
- The biggest victim of all.

You think she suffered more than
her husband's victims?

She has to deal with him the rest
of her life. She has his son.
You think she suffered more than
her husband's victims?

She has to deal with him the rest
of her life. She has his son.

What?
She has to deal with him the rest
of her life. She has his son.

What?

We're on our way.

I just came by to get
a few things for my son.

He hit me.
Kept hitting me.
I just came by to get
a few things for my son.

He hit me.
Kept hitting me.

She didn't have a choice.
He wouldn't stop.
He hit me.
Kept hitting me.

She didn't have a choice.
He wouldn't stop.

- Who tried to clean up?
- I did.

Meredith was hysterical. She didn't
want the blood to seep into the floor.
- Who tried to clean up?
- I did.

Meredith was hysterical. She didn't
want the blood to seep into the floor.

Does it make a difference?
Meredith was hysterical. She didn't
want the blood to seep into the floor.

Does it make a difference?

You know it does, Harper.

Bleach ruins the gunshot residue test.
You know it does, Harper.

Bleach ruins the gunshot residue test.

Really?
Bleach ruins the gunshot residue test.

Really?

Who shot him?

Who shot him?

I did.
Who shot him?

I did.