Kindred Spirits (2016–…): Season 2, Episode 1 - The Legacy of Lizzie Borden - full transcript
Investigating the Lizzie Borden House, where a tour guide experiences paranormal activity.
YOU HAVE GOT A WHOLE LOT
OF DEAD PEOPLE AROUND YOU.
Berry: THERE IS
A SPIRITUAL BATTLE TAKING PLACE.
Bruni: WE MIGHT BE
THE FIRST PEOPLE
TO INVESTIGATE
THE BORDEN HOUSE,
NOT LOOKING FOR THE BORDENS.
WAIT.
PUT YOUR ARM UP
LIKE THIS.
♪♪
OH!
OH!
♪♪
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING
IN THIS BACK ROOM.
SHE TOOK HER HUSBAND'S
STRAIGHT RAZOR
AND SLIT HER THROAT.
Bruni: SOMETHING
MOVED IN THAT ROOM
WHILE I WAS SLEEPING.
[ DOOR CREAKS ]
I AM AMY BRUNI.
I WAS ONLY 8 WHEN
A PARANORMAL INCIDENT
CHANGED MY LIFE FOREVER.
[ GIRL LAUGHS ]
SINCE THEN,
I'VE DEDICATED MY TIME
TO SOLVING THE MOST TERRIFYING
HAUNTINGS IMAGINABLE.
Berry: I'M ADAM BERRY.
MORE THAN A DECADE AGO,
AN ENCOUNTER AT GETTYSBURG
ROCKED MY BELIEFS
ABOUT THE SUPERNATURAL.
Bruni: TOGETHER,
WE UNCOVER THE TRUTH
BEHIND
THE UNEXPLAINABLE.
OH, MY GOD.
NOW WE ARE ON
OUR MOST IMPORTANT MISSION YET.
♪♪
HELPING FAMILIES
OVERCOME THEIR FEAR,
TAKE BACK THEIR HOMES,
AND RECLAIM THEIR LIVES.
♪♪
SO I RECEIVED A CALL
FROM A WOMAN NAMED SUE.
SHE IS HAVING
A LOT OF ACTIVITY.
THE INTERESTING TWIST
IN THIS CASE IS THAT
SUE BELIEVES THERE IS
SOME SORT OF SPIRITUAL BATTLE
GOING ON
WHERE SHE WORKS.
WHERE DOES SHE WORK?
THIS WOMAN WORKS
AT THE LIZZIE BORDEN HOUSE.
OH, OKAY.
YEAH.
OH, OKAY.
NOW I SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
Berry: EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY
KNOWS SOMETHING
ABOUT LIZZIE BORDEN.
PEOPLE THINK
SHE ACTUALLY MURDERED
HER FATHER AND STEPMOTHER.
SHE WASN'T CONVICTED
OF THE CRIME,
AND SHE WAS ABLE TO LIVE
THE REST OF HER LIFE.
THIS PLACE IS REALLY ACTIVE,
AND WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
WE FEEL WE TALKED TO
THE BORDEN FAMILY BEFORE.
WE'RE SITTING IN A RESTAURANT
THAT USED TO BE A CHURCH.
YEP.
THIS WAS...
WHERE LIZZIE BORDEN WAS
A PARISHIONER.
THAT IS SO AWESOME.
SO, SUE,
ON MANY OCCASIONS,
HAD PSYCHICS
RANDOMLY COME UP TO HER
AND TELL HER THAT ACTIVITY IS
HAPPENING AROUND HER MORE
BECAUSE HER GRANDPARENTS ARE
ACTUALLY WITH HER...
WOW, OKAY.
...PROTECTING HER
FROM WHATEVER IS GOING ON
AT THE LIZZIE BORDEN HOUSE.
- IS SHE LIKE A TOUR GUIDE, OR...
- SHE'S A TOUR GUIDE.
I MEAN, DOESN'T THAT
REALLY COME WITH THE TERRITORY?
I MEAN,
SHE'S IN A HAUNTED PLACE.
THERE'S RUMORS GOING AROUND THAT
PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE
HAVE MORE ISSUES --
STROKES, LIKE DEATHS.
I DON'T THINK
WE'VE EVER HEARD OF THAT.
SO I THINK SHE'S STARTING
TO BECOME AFRAID THAT
THAT IS WHAT
HER GRANDPARENTS
MIGHT BE
PROTECTING HER FROM.
OH. WOW.
THEN THAT'S A PROBLEM.
I THINK WE MIGHT BE
THE FIRST PEOPLE
TO INVESTIGATE
THE BORDEN HOUSE,
BUT WE'RE NOT LOOKING
FOR THE BORDENS.
I DON'T KNOW IF
THAT'S EVER HAPPENED.
NO, AND THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT TO SAY
THAT THE BORDENS
AREN'T GONNA POP IN.
MAYBE WE GET TO ASK
THE BORDENS
TO HELP US
IN THE INVESTIGATION.
YEAH.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK
I'VE EVER BEEN LIKE,
"HI. WE KNOW YOU'RE HERE.
CAN YOU HELP US WITH THIS CASE?"
YEAH.
♪♪
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Bruni: BEING IN
THE LIZZIE BORDEN HOUSE,
MOST PARANORMAL INVESTIGATORS
ALL OVER THE WORLD
TRAVELED HERE JUST
TO INVESTIGATE IN THIS HOUSE.
IT'S STRANGE TO BE HERE
AND NOT NECESSARILY
BE LOOKING FOR THE BORDENS,
BUT SUE FEELS AS THOUGH
HER FAMILY IS HAUNTING HER,
BUT THAT SOMEHOW,
THE BORDEN HOUSE
HAS DRAWN THEM TO HER.
IT'S OUR JOB TO FIGURE OUT
IF HER GRANDPARENTS ARE HERE
AND WHY HER GRANDPARENTS
ARE HERE.
YOU'RE SAYING YOU'VE HAD
MULTIPLE PEOPLE TELL YOU THAT
YOUR GRANDPARENTS ARE HERE.
- YES.
Bruni: AND WHAT WAS
YOUR GRANDPARENTS NAME?
IRENE AND WILLIAM.
MY GRANDMOTHER,
I CALL HER "MEME,"
AND "PEPE" --
MY GRANDFATHER.
LIKE, I'LL BE DOING TOURS,
AND I'LL BE GETTING
PSYCHICS TELL ME,
YOUR GRANDPARENTS ARE HERE,
PROTECTING YOU.
PROTECTING FROM WHAT?
UM...I MEAN,
DIFFERENT PEOPLE
HAVE HAD MEDICAL PROBLEMS
WHO WORK HERE.
WE'VE HAD A TOUR GUIDE DIE.
ONE HAD TWO STROKES.
ARE MY GRANDPARENTS
TRYING TO TELL ME,
MAYBE I SHOULDN'T
BE WORKING HERE
FOR REASONS LIKE THAT,
YOU KNOW?
AND THEN THIS ONE GUY HE SAID,
MY GRANDPARENTS
ARE IN A SPIRITUAL BATTLE
WITH ANDREW, LIZZIE'S FATHER.
- REALLY?
- YEAH.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY
WHERE HE WAS KILLED.
♪♪
IT'S A LITTLE CREEPY DOWN HERE.
- YEAH.
Sue: I WAS LEADING A TOUR
DOWN HERE AT NIGHT
AND AN ORB SHOT OUT
LIKE BETWEEN THESE BOXES.
IT PAUSED RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME,
AND IT SHOT THROUGH THAT HOLE
IN THE BRICKS RIGHT THERE.
AND AS I REELED BACK
FROM THAT,
A SECOND ONE SHOT UP,
DID THE SAME THING.
- OKAY.
- WEIRD.
Sue: AND THEY BELIEVE THAT
THE MURDER WEAPON WAS A HATCHET,
WAS FOUND RIGHT
AT THE ENTRANCE TO THIS ROOM.
OH, REALLY?
♪♪
WELL, THIS WAS
THE BORDENS' GUEST BEDROOM
AND...
THE MORNING
OF THE MURDERS,
ABBY BORDEN HAD COME UP HERE
TO MAKE UP THIS BED,
AND THIS IS THE ROOM THAT
SHE WAS ACTUALLY KILLED IN.
THEY USED A HATCHET?
RIGHT. SHE WAS STRUCK A TOTAL
OF 18 TIMES ABOVE HER HEAD,
AND ONCE BETWEEN
HER SHOULDER BLADES.
OH, MY GOD.
HAVE YOU HAD ANY EXPERIENCES
IN THIS ROOM?
I HAVE.
OKAY.
SOMETIMES, I'M BEING POKED
IN THE BACK OR HIT IN THE BACK.
- REALLY?
- YEAH.
OKAY.
Sue: THIS USED TO BE
MR. BORDEN'S BEDROOM.
Bruni: YOU HAD
AN EXPERIENCE IN THIS ROOM?
I DID.
I SAT DOWN ON THE BED HERE
AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN,
A BLACK MIST
CAME RIGHT ACROSS THE BED,
RIGHT ON THE SIDE OF ME.
THAT IS CRAZY.
LIKE, YOU KNOW
HOW SMOKE IS GRAYISH?
IT WAS REALLY A BLACK.
OKAY.
AND IT WAS JUST, LIKE,
SWIRLING IN PLACE.
OKAY.
SCARED THE HECK
OUT OF ME.
I JUMPED UP.
I RAN UP TO THE ATTIC.
AND WHEN I GOT UPSTAIRS,
I TURNED AROUND...
THAT MIST WAS JUST RIGHT
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DOORWAY.
Bruni: SO IT WAS, LIKE,
BLOCKING YOUR WAY OUT.
IT WAS [CHUCKLES]
THE ONLY WAY OUT, YEAH.
WHAT DID YOU DO?
I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT DO I DO?
DO I RUN
THROUGH THIS THING?
AND AS I'M THINKING ABOUT
WHAT AM I GOING TO DO,
THE THING MOVED OUT
OF THE DOORWAY,
AND IT WENT INTO
THAT LAST ROOM.
OKAY.
Sue: USUALLY I DON'T SPEND
THE NIGHT WITH THE GUESTS.
I GO HOME TO MY OWN HOUSE.
WELL THIS PARTICULAR NIGHT,
THE OWNER, LEANNE,
HAD SAID, "SUE, YOU'RE THE
TOUR GUIDE ON TOMORROW NIGHT.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE
TO SPEND THE NIGHT
IN THE HOUSE
WITH THE GUESTS."
I ASKED MY NIECE CINDY
TO JOIN ME FOR THE TOUR
THAT NIGHT,
AND SPEND THE NIGHT
IN THIS ROOM WITH ME.
AND I HAD PUT MY CELLPHONE
DOWN ON THE NIGHTSTAND.
I REACHED OVER
TO GET MY CELLPHONE
AND IT WAS LIKE
I GOT ELECTROCUTED.
I SAID, "CINDY, COME HERE."
SHE GOT UP OFF THE BED
AND WALKED AROUND
AND SHE'S LIKE,
"WHAT, AUNTIE?"
I SAID PUT YOUR HAND OUT.
SHE PULLED IT BACK AND SAID,
"OH, MY GOD.
IT'S LIKE
I GOT ELECTROCUTED."
AND AS SHE SAID THAT,
EVERY LIGHT IN THIS ENTIRE
ATTIC WENT OUT.
OH, GEEZ.
WE GRABBED ALL OUR THINGS
AND SAID, "FORGET THAT.
LET'S GO DOWNSTAIRS."
BUT WHEN WE GOT
TO THE SECOND FLOOR LANDING,
EVERY LIGHT IN THE ATTIC
CAME BACK ON
AND ALL THE LIGHTS
FROM THE SECOND
TO THE FIRST FLOOR
WENT OUT.
- OH, GEEZ.
- YEAH.
AND SO, NOW YOU'LL NEVER
COME BACK UP HERE
AND STAY AT NIGHT.
I DO NOT LIKE THE FEELING
UP HERE AT ALL.
I MEAN, ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT
EVER HAVING TO QUIT THIS JOB?
[ SIGHS ]
WELL, IF IT'S GONNA
AFFECT PEOPLE'S HEALTH
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
THEN YEAH.
YOU KNOW,
I JUST WANT TO FIND OUT
IF THESE RELATIVES OF MINE
ARE HERE.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW
WHAT'S GOING ON.
- WHY ARE THEY HERE?
- OKAY.
Bruni: SUE'S FEARS
ARE A MAJOR CONCERN,
ESPECIALLY IF OTHER TOUR GUIDES
FACE THE SAME THREATS.
Berry:
LET'S GO ON CHANNEL 3.
ADAM IS GOING TO SET UP
OUR EQUIPMENT
WHILE I TALK TO RICK,
A LONGTIME EMPLOYEE
OF THE BORDEN HOUSE.
THERE MAY BE A CONNECTION
BETWEEN THE HOUSE
AND THE WELL-BEING
OF ITS EMPLOYEES,
BUT RIGHT NOW,
THERE'S NO WAY TO TELL FOR SURE.
RICK.
I'M AMY.
GOOD TO MEET YOU.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE SUE
HAS MORE ACTIVITY AROUND HER
THAN OTHER TOUR GUIDES?
YEAH, WE LIKE TO SAY
SHE'S LIKE A MAGNET.
IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN SHE'S AROUND,
THINGS HAPPEN.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS,
BUT SHE'S LIKE A MAGNET.
WHAT KIND OF THINGS
HAVE HAPPENED TO PEOPLE
THAT SPEND
A LOT OF TIME HERE?
PEOPLE THAT HAVE WORKED HERE
HAVE HAD
TRAGIC THINGS HAPPEN
IN THEIR LIVES.
ONE OF OUR TOUR GUIDES
WHO HAD WORKED HERE
FOR A LONG TIME,
SHE HAD LEFT AND MOVED AWAY,
SHE CAME BACK,
AND STARTED WORKING
HERE AGAIN.
AND WITHIN TWO MONTHS,
SHE LOST TWO OF HER FAMILY.
SHE LOST HER MOM AND HER DAD
WITHIN TWO OR THREE MONTHS.
I MEAN, WHEN MY WIFE
STARTED WORKING HERE,
THAT'S WHEN A LOT
OF OUR PROBLEMS STARTED.
REALLY?
DOES SHE STILL WORK HERE?
NO, UNFORTUNATELY,
SHE HAD SOME HEALTH ISSUES
A COUPLE YEARS AGO,
AND SHE HASN'T BEEN
ABLE TO WORK.
AND SEE, I BEGIN TO WONDER
ABOUT THINGS, YOU KNOW?
THAT MAYBE THERE'S
SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON HERE
- THAT'S AFFECTING PEOPLE
THAT ARE WORKING HERE. - RIGHT.
I HATE TO THINK THAT.
- I DON'T WANT TO THINK THAT.
- OF COURSE NOT.
BUT YOU CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER
IF THERE'S ANYTHING MORE
TO WHAT'S GOING ON HERE
THAN MEETS THE EYE.
RIGHT, EXACTLY.
♪♪
Bruni: SUE'S NOT THE ONLY ONE
THAT BELIEVES THESE RUMORS,
BUT WE'RE NOT TOTALLY CONVINCED.
IF SHE'S IN DANGER,
WE NEED TO DETERMINE
WHETHER HER GRANDPARENTS
ARE HERE.
AND IF SO, ARE THEY HERE
TO PROTECT HER?
ALL RIGHT,
SO WE HAVE HOW MANY?
WE HAVE SIX CAMERAS
ALL TOGETHER, RIGHT?
RIGHT, EVERYTHING VISUAL
THAT SHE SPOKE OF,
OR WHEN SHE HAD HER
CRAZY EXPERIENCE,
WE'VE GOT THAT COVERED
ON CAMERA.
OKAY. SO I FEEL
LIKE TONIGHT,
I THINK WE SHOULD START
IN HIS ROOM,
WHERE SHE HAD
THE WEIRD BLACK MIST.
YEAH, I WANT TO SEE
THAT BLACK MIST.
THAT'S THE FIRST THING
WE NEED TO CHECK OFF THE LIST.
Berry: SUE TALKS TO US
ABOUT THE SWIRLING BLACK MIST.
WE HAVE THIS SLS CAMERA
THAT PICKS UP ANOMALIES
AND THEN MAKE THEM
STICK FIGURES.
SO AMY AND I ARE GOING TO SEE
IF WE GET ANY ACTIVITY.
I'M ADAM,
AND THIS IS AMY.
Bruni: HI.
AND WE WERE HERE EARLIER
WITH SUE.
SHE WAS TAKING US THROUGH
AND TELLING US THE EXPERIENCES
THAT SHE'S HAD
IN THIS HOUSE.
AND SHE SEEMS TO THINK THAT
IT'S HER GRANDPARENTS.
WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE COME IN HERE
AND THEY INVESTIGATE
AND THEY WANT TO TALK
TO THE BORDENS.
IF ANY OF YOU ARE HERE,
YOU KNOW,
FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT,
BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING
FOR WILLIAM OR IRENE.
AND MAYBE YOU CAN TELL US
THAT THEY'RE HERE.
Bruni: IT'S SO IMPORTANT
THAT YOU TALK TO US.
WE JUST REALLY NEED
YOUR HELP ON THIS ONE.
HEY, THERE'S SOMETHING
IN THE HALLWAY.
I SEE IT.
JUST WALK
A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
I CAN SEE YOU.
YOU'RE STANDING
RIGHT THERE.
CAN YOU WALK CLOSER
TO US, PLEASE?
JUST COME CLOSER.
CAN YOU WAVE?
PUT YOUR ARM UP
LIKE THIS.
AS HIGH UP
AS YOU CAN PUT IT.
OH, IT'S DOING IT.
IT IS DOING IT.
WHOA!
♪♪
- IT JUST -- OH!
- OH!
♪♪
JUST WALK
A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
I CAN SEE YOU.
YOU'RE STANDING RIGHT THERE.
CAN YOU WALK CLOSER
TO US, PLEASE?
CAN YOU WAVE?
PUT YOUR ARM UP
LIKE THIS.
WHOA!
ARM UP.
HE PUT HIS ARM UP ALL THE WAY.
[ GASPS ]
AND THEN DISAPPEARED.
THAT WAS FREAKY.
HERE, COME AROUND THIS WAY
ON MY SIDE.
♪♪
WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE
TO SEE YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER
IF YOU CAN JUST STEP OUT
OF THE DARKNESS A LITTLE BIT.
COME ON.
YOU CAN TOUCH ME.
[ MUTTERS ]
I SEE IT.
WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
SUE HAS BEEN TOLD
BY MANY PEOPLE
THAT HER GRANDPARENTS ARE HERE,
PROTECTING HER.
DO YOU KNOW THEM?
THIS IS YOUR CHANCE
TO HELP US
HELP SOMEONE
WHO WORKS HERE.
YOU CAN DO SOME GOOD.
INSTEAD OF YOU HELPING US,
YOU'RE GONNA HELP SUE.
ARE WE MAKING SENSE?
CAN YOU JUST MAKE
A LOUD NOISE SOMEWHERE
IF YOU'RE WILLING
TO HELP US?
OH, I LOST ONE.
♪♪
ALL RIGHT, SOMETHING
JUST TOUCHED MY SHOULDER.
YOUR RIGHT SHOULDER?
MY RIGHT SHOULDER.
RIGHT HERE.
♪♪
YEAH, ONE MOVES
OFF THE SCREEN.
AND THEN SOMETHING
TOUCHED MY SHOULDER.
OKAY.
AND THEY'RE BOTH GONE NOW.
NOTHING. THEY'RE GONE.
- LET'S PLAY THIS BACK.
- YEAH.
[ STATIC ]
WHAT DID IT SAY?
I DON'T KNOW.
- "DON'T NEED TO"?
- YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT
IT SOUNDS LIKE.
♪♪
OKAY.
"DON'T NEED TO."
YEAH. HE'S LIKE,
"I DON'T NEED TO."
IT SOUNDED LIKE A MAN.
YEAH.
WHAT DO YOU THINK
IT WAS?
I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
FOR THEM TO KNOW IS,
THEY ARE INVESTIGATING
WITH US.
EVEN THOUGH
WE'RE REACHING OUT FOR THEM,
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME
THAT WE ARE ASKING
WHOEVER'S HERE
TO INVESTIGATE WITH US,
GIVE US ANSWERS
THAT'S NOT ABOUT THEMSELVES.
RIGHT. OKAY.
OKAY.
LET'S GO TO THE ATTIC.
Berry: WHATEVER WE JUST
CAUGHT ON THE SLS CAMERA
WAS INTERACTING WITH US,
BUT THEN IT RAN OFF.
SUE SAID THE BLACK MIST
WENT UPSTAIRS INTO THE ATTIC.
MAYBE THE SPIRITS WE SAW
JUST DID THE SAME THING.
I'M GONNA PUT THIS
OVER HERE.
I'M GONNA PUT
THE SPIRIT BOX RIGHT HERE.
A SPIRIT BOX RAPIDLY SCANS
THROUGH RADIO FREQUENCIES,
THEORETICALLY ALLOWING SPIRITS
TO MANIPULATE THE WHITE NOISE
AND FORM RESPONSES.
OKAY, WHOEVER'S IN HERE,
CAN YOU TALK TO US USING THIS?
[ WHITE NOISE PLAYS ]
DO YOU KNOW SUE?
[ WHITE NOISE CONTINUES ]
WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
IF YOU ARE
SUE'S GRANDPARENTS,
PLEASE REACH OUT
IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING
YOU'D LIKE TO SAY.
[ WHITE NOISE CONTINUES ]
♪♪
[ WHITE NOISE STOPS ]
WHY IS IT SO QUIET?
I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME
TO LET IT CHILL OUT.
IT KNOWS WHAT WE WANT NOW.
AND WE HAVE STUFF
TO DO TOMORROW,
'CAUSE WE'VE GOT TO START
DOING OUR RESEARCH.
ALL RIGHT.
SHALL WE THEN?
YEAH.
Bruni: LAST TIME
SUE SPENT THE NIGHT,
SHE HAD ONE
OF HER WORST EXPERIENCES.
♪♪
WE'RE GOING TO HUNKER DOWN
IN A ROOM
WITH THE CAMERAS AND RECORDERS
STILL GOING.
IF ANYTHING HAPPENS,
WE WANT TO BE HERE TO CATCH IT.
♪♪
[ CRICKETS CHIRPING ]
♪♪
Berry: AMY AND I KNOW A LOT
ABOUT THE BORDEN LEGEND.
HOWEVER, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT SUE'S FAMILY.
LEARNING MORE ABOUT
HER GRANDPARENTS
WILL MAKE IT EASIER
TO CONNECT WITH THEM.
SO I'M GONNA MEET
WITH SUE'S NIECE AND SEE
IF WE CAN GET ANY MORE
INFORMATION FROM HER.
CINDY, THANK YOU
FOR MEETING WITH ME TODAY.
HAS SHE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT
THINKING HER GRANDPARENTS
ARE HERE WITH HER
AT TIMES?
YES.
OKAY.
AND WHAT WERE
THEY LIKE?
WILLIAM LOVED
ALL THE GRANDCHILDREN.
YEAH.
ALL THE KIDS WOULD
SIT AROUND HIM,
AND HE WAS
A GREAT, FUN GUY.
OKAY, WHAT
ABOUT HER GRANDMOTHER?
ANY, LIKE,
REALLY FOND MEMORIES?
NOT THAT I CAN
REALLY REMEMBER.
DO YOU THINK
HER GRANDPARENTS ARE HERE?
ABSOLUTELY.
Bruni: WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY LUCK
CONTACTING THE BORDENS FOR HELP.
SO I HAVE A HISTORIAN
COMING TO VISIT,
BECAUSE WHO KNOWS
WHAT WE'LL FIND
AS FAR AS WHAT HAPPENED NEARBY,
YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE
WHO LIVED HERE,
YOU KNOW, EXTENDED FAMILY.
ANYONE ATTACHED TO THIS HOUSE
WHO MIGHT HELP US.
WE ALL KNOW THE STORY TO
THE NOTORIOUS BORDEN MURDERS,
BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE
HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT?
- ANDREW'S UNCLE...
- OKAY.
...LAWDWICK,
HE OWNED THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR,
WHICH I BELIEVE
IS STILL THAT HOUSE.
HIS SECOND WIFE, ELIZA, HAD
HAD THREE CHILDREN.
SHE TOOK THEM DOWN
TO THE BASEMENT
AND THREW THEM
INTO THE CISTERN,
WHICH IS -- IT'S KIND OF LIKE
AN INDOOR WELL.
TWO OF THEM
ACTUALLY DIED,
AND THEN SHE TOOK HER
HUSBAND'S STRAIGHT RAZOR
AND SLIT HER THROAT.
♪♪
♪♪
WHAT BIG THINGS HAVE
YOU LEARNED, MR. BERRY?
I TALKED TO CINDY,
SUE'S NIECE,
AND SHE TOLD ME A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT SUE'S GRANDPARENTS,
WILLIAM AND IRENE.
IT SEEMS LIKE BOTH OF THEM
WERE EXTREMELY CARING,
YOU KNOW,
WILLIAM SPECIFICALLY,
THE KIDS GATHERED
AROUND HIM.
IT'S A LITTLE INSIGHT
ON HIS PERSONALITY,
I GUESS,
THAT MAYBE WE CAN USE.
I MEAN, DID YOU
FIND OUT ANYTHING?
I DID.
I FOUND OUT THAT THE BORDENS
WERE NOT THE ONLY DEATHS.
NEXT DOOR,
LIZZIE BORDEN'S AUNT ELIZA
HAD THREE KIDS.
AND SHE WENT DOWN
TO THEIR BASEMENT
AND THREW THEM ALL
IN THE CISTERN.
AND SO THE 3-YEAR-OLD WAS ABLE
TO MAKE HER WAY OUT.
THE 1-YEAR-OLD
AND THE BABY DIED.
- AND THEN ELIZA SLIT
HER OWN THROAT. - OH, GOD!
AND KILLED HERSELF.
THAT IS DISGUSTING.
I MEAN, THAT'S CRAZY.
SO, YOU KNOW,
WE HAVE SOME NEW
POTENTIAL PEOPLE
TO REACH OUT TO.
♪♪
Berry: WE'RE TRYING TO GET
IN TOUCH WITH ANYONE
WHO WILL SPEAK TO US
ABOUT SUE'S GRANDPARENTS.
HOPEFULLY,
THIS NEW INFORMATION HELPS.
BEFORE WE GET STARTED,
WE NEED TO REVIEW THE AUDIO
AND THE FOOTAGE FROM LAST NIGHT.
I WAS LISTENING
TO THE AUDIO,
AND THERE'S A REALLY
LOUD CRAZY SOUND
IN THE ROOM WITH ME.
I'LL JUST PLAY IT
FOR YOU.
[ SCRAPING ]
- I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE...
- A DRAGGING.
...SOMETHING DRAG--
A DOOR, IT'S LIKE...
IT'S SO LOUD.
AND, LIKE, I CAN HEAR
ME MOVING AROUND IN BED,
AND IT'S A LOT SOFTER.
OKAY.
CAN YOU BRING UP
THE CAMERA OF ME SLEEPING?
LET'S GO TO 3:56
IN THE A.M.
[ MOUSE CLICKS ]
NOTHING'S MOVING.
NOTHING ELSE IS MOVING.
YOUR BAG DOESN'T MOVE.
I DON'T SEE
ANYTHING MOVING.
IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT
IT IS NOT ME.
THAT'S THE BIG THING.
- SO LET'S GO UP THERE
AND FIND OUT... - YEAH.
...WHAT'S UP THERE.
LET'S START UP THERE, SEE IF
WE CAN RE-CREATE THAT SOUND.
- OKAY.
- OKAY.
FIRST THINGS FIRST.
NOPE, NOPE.
[ SCRAPING SOFTLY ]
Berry: THAT SOUNDS
A LITTLE BIT MORE APT.
- MAYBE THE OTHER ROOM?
- YEAH.
'CAUSE IT WAS KIND OF
ON THIS SIDE.
[ CREAKING ]
NO.
HOW ABOUT THIS DOOR?
[ SCRAPING ]
OH!
OH!
♪♪
[ SCRAPING ]
OH, YEAH.
OH, YEAH.
BARELY MOVE IT.
[ SCRAPING ]
YEAH.
THAT'S CREEPY.
- LET'S LISTEN.
- THAT'S IT.
THE RECORDER --
IT'S GONNA MATCH.
[ SCRAPING ]
GO BACK. GO BACK.
I WANT TO HEAR IT.
[ SCRAPING ]
THAT'S IT.
♪♪
Bruni: ADAM AND I TRIED
TO RE-CREATE THAT SOUND.
WE THINK IT WAS A DOOR
BEING MOVED.
OF COURSE THESE THINGS
WERE OFF-CAMERA,
BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES.
BUT I HAVE NO DOUBT
SOMETHING MOVED IN THAT ROOM
WHILE I WAS SLEEPING.
THAT'S REALLY CREEPY.
YEAH.
MAYBE WE SHOULD
LEAVE THIS RECORDER UP HERE
WHILE WE GO DO
SOME OTHER STUFF.
YEAH.
LET IT DO ITS THING.
AND THEN, MAYBE, LET'S GO DOWN
TO WHERE ABBY WAS KILLED.
YEAH, LET'S DO THAT.
Berry: THIS IS
THE BORDEN HOUSE.
WE'RE GONNA WITNESS
PARANORMAL ACTIVITY.
THAT'S NOT A QUESTION.
BUT NOTHING
WE'VE WITNESSED SO FAR
MAKES US BELIEVE
IT'S SUE'S GRANDPARENTS.
SUE MENTIONED BEING POKED
IN ABBY'S ROOM.
IF WHATEVER IS HERE IS
POWERFUL ENOUGH
TO MAKE PHYSICAL CONTACT,
MAYBE WE'LL BE LUCKY ENOUGH
TO GET A RESPONSE.
- ALL RIGHT.
- I'M GONNA MOVE THIS HERE.
Bruni:
ABBY BORDEN'S ROOM.
WE'RE STILL HERE,
WHOEVER HAS BEEN AROUND US.
WE'RE HERE TO TALK
TO ANYONE RELATED TO SUE.
IF ANY OF THE BORDENS
ARE HERE,
CAN YOU JOIN US
FOR A SECOND?
YOU CAN HELP US...
IF YOU COULD TELL ANYONE
THAT'S CONNECTED TO SUE,
A FAMILY MEMBER --
MAYBE IRENE OR WILLIAM --
TO COME IN HERE WITH US.
IS THERE ANYTHING
THAT YOU WANT TO SAY TO US?
IS ELIZA IN HERE
WITH US?
[ SIGHS ] LET'S SEE.
♪♪
NO.
[ SIGHS ]
SOMEONE IS ANSWERING.
WHATEVER IT IS
SOUNDS LIKE IT'S OVER IT.
"DO YOU WANT TO TALK TO US?"
"NO."
IT SOUNDS VERY SIMILAR
TO THE MALE VOICE
WE'VE HEARD
THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE.
YEAH.
IRENE AND WILLIAM ARE NOT
REACHING OUT TO US.
- I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S
BECAUSE SUE'S NOT WITH US. - RIGHT.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING
FROM ELIZA OR THE CHILDREN.
WAIT, I FEEL LIKE --
WAIT.
♪♪
I HEARD THAT.
THAT WAS, LIKE, A VOICE.
YEAH.
♪♪
WHERE IS THAT
COMING FROM?
♪♪
IRENE AND WILLIAM ARE NOT
REACHING OUT TO US.
I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S
BECAUSE SUE'S NOT WITH US.
RIGHT.
WAIT, I FEEL LIKE...
WAIT.
♪♪
I HEARD THAT.
- THAT WAS, LIKE, A VOICE.
- YEAH!
WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM?
THE BASEMENT?
THERE'S SOMETHING DOWN THERE,
I HEARD IT.
BE CAREFUL.
DID YOU HEAR THAT
OVER HERE?
I HEARD, LIKE,
MOVEMENT OVER THERE.
ARE YOU OVER HERE?
WELL, THIS FLOOR
IS CREAKING.
RIGHT HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW
IF THAT WAS IT.
I THINK MAYBE IT WAS COMING
FROM, LIKE...
OVER THERE.
THAT'S WHERE
SHE SAW THE ORBS.
LET'S JUST LISTEN
FOR THAT AGAIN.
LET ME GRAB
THAT RECORDER.
I'M GONNA WALK IN HERE
FOR A SECOND,
'CAUSE THIS IS WHERE
OUR FRIEND SUE SAYS SHE SAW YOU.
I'M JUST GONNA SET
THIS RECORDER RIGHT HERE, OKAY?
IS THERE SOMEONE DOWN HERE
WHO LIKES TO SNEAK AWAY
FROM THE REST
OF THE HOUSE?
IF YOU COULD TALK TO US
FOR A MINUTE?
WE'RE TRYING
TO GET ANSWERS FOR SUE
WHO'S A TOUR GUIDE HERE.
ARE THERE
ANY CHILDREN HERE?
I KNOW THAT IF THIS
WERE MY HOME,
I WOULD BE REALLY IRRITATED
IF PEOPLE KEPT COMING
IN AND OUT OF IT
CONSTANTLY.
DOES THAT BOTHER YOU?
BUT WE HEARD THE --
BUT WE HEARD --
LIKE MOVEMENT.
YEAH, SOME KIND
OF FOOTSTEPS OR MOVEMENT.
LIKE IT WENT FROM --
LIKE IT WENT AWAY FROM US
AND WENT OVER THERE
TO, LIKE,
HIDE OR SOMETHING.
I THINK THAT...
USUALLY, IF SOMETHING WANTS
TO REACH OUT TO US,
BY THIS POINT,
WE'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH
FOR IT TO GET
FAMILIAR WITH US.
I THINK THAT WHATEVER'S HERE
DOESN'T KNOW US THAT WELL.
AND THIS IS WHY I THINK SUE
NEEDS TO INVESTIGATE WITH US,
BECAUSE, ONE,
WE'RE LOOKING FOR FAMILY.
AND, TWO, EVEN WHAT'S HERE,
EVEN IF IT'S NOT HER FAMILY,
THEY KNOW SUE BETTER
THAN THEY KNOW US.
YEAH.
SO...
I HONESTLY FEEL
LIKE SHE IS SCARED.
IF THERE WAS A WAY
WE COULD, LIKE,
KIND OF APPEASE
THAT SIDE OF HER.
I MEAN, WE COULD BRING CHIP --
BRING CHIP COFFEY
AND THEN, MAYBE,
WE CAN ALL INVESTIGATE.
TOGETHER.
SHE CAN TACKLE THOSE FEARS.
SHE NEEDS TO, LIKE,
CONNECT WITH HER FAMILY
AND THAT MIGHT OPEN HER UP
A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND ALL THOSE PSYCHICS
TELL HER
THESE PEOPLE ARE
AROUND YOU,
AND MAYBE
HE'LL CONNECT WITH THAT.
♪♪
♪♪
Bruni: CHIP COFFEY IS SOMEONE
THAT I TRUST WHO IS A PSYCHIC,
AND IT'S A PERFECT FIT
FOR THIS CASE.
HE'S REALLY GOOD
AT KIND OF HONING IN
ON PEOPLE
AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS.
HE CAN ALSO LET US KNOW
IF SOMETHING'S,
YOU KNOW, IN OUR VICINITY
AND GIVE US AN IDEA
OF WHO IS AROUND US
OR WHO IS AROUND SUE.
SUE WANTS TO KNOW
WHY HER GRANDPARENTS ARE HERE,
IF THEY ARE HERE.
HER GRANDPARENTS ARE NOT
REACHING OUT TO ADAM OR I
AS WE'RE IN THIS HOUSE
WITHOUT HER,
SO IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT SUE
INVESTIGATES WITH US, AS WELL.
SUE HAS A PROBLEM
WITH THE BASEMENT.
SHE DID HAVE AN EXPERIENCE
WHERE SHE SAW AN ORB,
BUT ALSO JUST THE FEELING
IN THE BASEMENT,
IT'S REALLY TOUGH FOR HER
TO GO INTO THAT AREA.
HOPEFULLY, WE'LL BE ABLE
TO HELP HER WITH THAT
AS WE GO THROUGH
THIS INVESTIGATION.
Sue: I JUST GET
A CREEPY FEELING DOWN HERE,
ESPECIALLY THIS END
OF THE BASEMENT.
Bruni: I'LL LOOK
AT EMF LEVELS DOWN HERE.
Berry: YEAH, I'M GETTING
0.5, 0.4 IN THE BOX AREA.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING
IN THIS BACK ROOM.
I'VE BEEN SORT OF
DRAWN TO THIS ROOM,
AND THERE'S SOMETHING
MOVING IN THERE,
AND, PSYCHICALLY,
I'M GETTING DISTINCTLY MALE.
Bruni: ALL RIGHT.
I'M GONNA TAKE
THE RECORDER IN THERE.
IS THERE SOMEONE IN HERE
TRYING TO HIDE
AWAY FROM US?
WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
DO YOU KNOW SUE?
♪♪
DO YOU HAVE A MESSAGE
FOR SOMEONE IN THIS ROOM?
- PLAY IT BACK.
- LET'S TAKE A LISTEN.
- I THOUGHT I HEARD A "NO."
- I HEARD "NO."
NO.
- LIKE, I'M NOT HIDING FROM YOU.
- OH, WHOA!
WHAT WAS THAT?
Bruni: IS THERE
SOMEONE IN HERE?
- THAT'S WEIRD.
- YEAH.
Berry: WHAT IS THAT --
LIKE, "TA, TA."
Bruni: I DON'T KNOW.
Sue: GET OUT?
♪♪
♪♪
♪♪
Berry: WHAT IS THAT --
LIKE, "TA, TA."
I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S LIKE...
Sue: GET OUT?
SOMETHING WAS
NOT HAPPY.
IT'S A GUY.
YOU SEE.
SOMETHING NEGATIVE
BACK THERE.
- I DON'T KNOW.
- NOT NEGATIVE.
LIKE, THERE'S NOTHING
TRULY NEGATIVE HERE.
THERE IS GRUMPY
OR ANGRY,
BUT THERE IS NOTHING
TRULY NEGATIVE.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING DEMONIC
OR NASTY IN THIS PLACE.
IF THAT'S WHAT
YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT,
IF YOU'RE WORRIED
ABOUT SOMETHING
THAT'S EVEN
LOW-LEVEL DEMONIC,
IT AIN'T HERE.
WE SUSPECT THAT
IT'S ANDREW BORDEN.
Berry: HE WAS A GRUFF MAN,
APPARENTLY.
I WOULD BET ANDREW'S
A GRUMPY S.O.B,
LIKE, SHOOING YOU OUT --
"DON'T BE DOWN HERE,
DON'T BE DOWN HERE,
DON'T BE DOWN HERE."
I MEAN, HE WENT THROUGH
SOMETHING HORRIFIC
AND IS MADE TO RELIVE IT
CONSTANTLY.
OF COURSE
HE'S NOT HAPPY.
I WILL SAY WHAT WE HAVE
FOUND MANY TIMES
IS THAT ENTITIES
KIND OF GRAVITATE --
AND CHIP KNOWS THIS, TOO --
TO THE AREAS
THAT ARE THE LEAST INHABITED
OF THE HOUSE.
THEY'RE TRYING TO GET
TO WHERE NO ONE IS
AND THEN YOU WALK
INTO THEIR SPACE.
THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
I INVADED THEIR SPACE, YEAH.
EXACTLY.
- LET'S GO UP TO THE ATTIC.
- YEAH, LET'S GO TO THE ATTIC
FOR A LITTLE BIT,
AND WE'LL HIT YOUR OTHER AREA.
♪♪
Berry: ANDREW IS STILL
MAKING HIS PRESENCE FELT,
BUT SUE'S GRANDPARENTS HAVE YET
TO REACH OUT TO US.
WE'RE GOING TO THE ATTIC
BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE
SUE FELT LIKE HER GRANDMOTHER
TRIED TO CONTACT HER.
♪♪
MAYBE YOU SHOULD
START THE EVP SESSION.
Bruni: YEAH.
Sue: IS THERE SOMEBODY
UP HERE WITH ME?
IS THAT YOU UP HERE,
ANDREW?
DO YOU WANT TO TALK
TO ME?
THAT'S WEIRD.
HOLD ON.
I HEAR IT SAY "PEPE."
♪♪
- HERE THAT, "PEPE"?
- "PEPE."
THAT'S MY GRANDFATHER.
PEPE, OKAY.
WELL THAT'S ENCOURAGING
'CAUSE WE GOT "PEPE."
SO I THINK WE SHOULD
KEEP GOING.
PEPE, WAS THAT YOU TRYING
TO TALK TO ME?
DOES SOMEBODY UP HERE HAVE
A MESSAGE FOR ME?
- THERE YOU GO.
- YES.
YES.
Berry: "PEPE, WAS THAT YOU
TRYING TO TALK TO ME?" "YES."
WHAT WAS THAT --
LIKE, "TA, TA."
♪♪
DO IT ONE MORE TIME.
I HEAR LIKE, "LET GO."
"LET GO"?
♪♪
Berry: WHAT WAS THAT --
LIKE "TA, TA."
DO IT ONE MORE TIME.
I HEAR LIKE, "LET GO."
"LET GO"?
BUT WHY WOULD HE SAY THAT?
- I DON'T KNOW.
- I DON'T KNOW, EITHER.
AFTER BRINGING SUE
INTO OUR INVESTIGATION,
HER GRANDFATHER FINALLY
REACHED OUT TO US.
BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR
WHY HE WOULD SAY "LET GO."
SO WE ARE GONNA DO A READING
WITH CHIP TO TRY TO FIND OUT.
ARE YOU READY?
READY.
THEN LET'S BEGIN.
♪♪
THE FIRST THING
THAT I GET,
I'M GETTING A LOT
OF BREATHING STUFF.
- WHO'S THE PERSON WITH THE...
- MY GRANDFATHER.
WHAT DID HE DIE OF?
HE HAD C.O.P.D.
BREATHING.
MM-HMM. YEAH.
WHY AM I GETTING THE WORD "STOP"
WITH THIS PERSON?
♪♪
I DON'T KNOW.
I'M HEARING
THE WORD "STOP."
I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S MY QUESTION,
STOP WORKING HERE?
WHY ARE THEY HERE?
I DON'T KNOW.
♪♪
THERE'S SOMETHING
ABOUT MEDICAL TREATMENT
AND STOPPING SOMETHING
THAT THEY'RE DOING
AS FAR
AS MEDICALLY GOES.
LIKE, IF SOMEBODY IS GETTING
SOME SORT OF TREATMENT
OR SOMETHING IS GOING
ON MEDICALLY,
IT'S LIKE, THIS NEEDS TO STOP.
"STOP."
I MEAN,
MY DAD'S ON HOSPICE.
HE'S DYING.
HE HAS LIVER CANCER.
♪♪
THAT'S THE "STOP."
YOU'VE GOT TO STOP
WITH YOUR DAD.
STOP WHAT WITH MY DAD?
HOLDING HIM.
KEEPING HIM HERE?
MM-HMM.
THAT'S WHAT
THEY'RE TELLING ME.
THEY'RE THERE FOR HIM.
YOU'VE GOT
TO GIVE HIM TO THEM.
♪♪
BUT THAT'S THE WHOLE MESSAGE
FOR YOU TONIGHT.
YOU'VE GOT TO LET HIM GO.
AND THIS IS GONNA BE HARD
FOR YOU TO HEAR, BABY,
BUT PART OF THE REASON
THAT HE'S NOT BEGINNING
THAT PROCESS...
...IS HE DOESN'T
WANT TO LEAVE YOU.
♪♪
YOU KNOW,
HE TOLD ME HE WAS READY
NOT THAT LONG AGO
AND I TOLD HIM
I UNDERSTOOD,
AND THAT IT WAS OKAY.
I DID.
HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS B.S.?
THE ENTIRE AMOUNT?
PROBABLY.
THEY'RE THERE
WAITING FOR HIM.
IT'S NOT LIKE
YOU'RE LOSING HIM FOR GOOD.
IT'S JUST,
YOU'RE LETTING HIM GO.
AND YOU'RE GONNA BE OKAY.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS
WITH YOUR DAD
AS THE FINALE.
'CAUSE IT'S MY DAD.
OF COURSE.
DON'T THINK OF IT
AS "GOODBYE."
THINK OF IT
AS "SEE YOU LATER."
OKAY?
THANK YOU.
COME TO ME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
♪♪
LET IT GO.
[ SNIFFLES ]
Berry: HOW ARE YOU FEELING
RIGHT NOW
ABOUT THIS WHOLE...
THIS EXPERIENCE?
I'M SURPRISED
AND I'M, UH...
A LITTLE SAD,
BUT I UNDERSTAND.
Bruni: AND SO NOW YOU KNOW
WHY YOUR GRANDPARENTS
ARE HERE WITH YOU.
AND I THINK
IT DOES MAKE SENSE
THAT MAYBE YOUR FAMILY WOULD
KIND OF STEP IN HERE AND THERE
AND DEFEND YOU IN A WAY,
BUT IT'S NOT REALLY, LIKE,
A SPIRITUAL BATTLE,
PER SE.
YEAH, OKAY.
Chip: I THINK THEY'RE
JUST HERE WITH YOU.
YOU ARE AT A PLACE
THAT'S KNOWN
FOR DEALING
WITH PARANORMAL TOPICS.
AND WHAT BETTER PLACE FOR THEM
TO HANG OUT WITH YOU?
AND, I MEAN, THEY LOVE YOU,
AND SO THEY'RE HANGING WITH YOU.
I THINK PROTECTING PROBABLY
IS A STRONG WORD.
I DON'T FEEL EVIL LURKING
AROUND THE CORNERS
IN THIS HOUSE, DO YOU?
MAYBE SOMETIMES, YEAH.
LIKE DOWN THAT BASEMENT
ESPECIALLY.
IF -- IF YOU'RE SCARED,
THEY'RE GONNA FEED
ON YOUR FEAR, TOO.
ANYTHING NEGATIVE'S GONNA FEED
ON YOUR FEAR.
I KNOW YOU HAVE
THAT EXPERIENCE.
IF WE CAN GO BACK
AND KIND OF TACKLE THAT
WITH YOU AGAIN
IN THE SPACE,
AND JUST, YOU KNOW,
REITERATE THAT
THERE'S NOTHING HERE
THAT'S GONNA ATTACK YOU
AND HURT YOU.
WE'LL WORK ON IT TONIGHT,
FOR SURE,
'CAUSE YOU SHOULDN'T
BE SCARED.
♪♪
Berry: WE NOW KNOW
WHY SUE'S GRANDPARENTS
ARE IN THE HOUSE WITH HER,
BUT SHE'S STILL A LITTLE
APPREHENSIVE ABOUT ANDREW.
SO WE'RE GONNA HEAD
INTO THE BASEMENT
SO THAT SHE CAN FINALLY
STAND UP FOR HERSELF.
AND WE'RE GONNA
HELP HER DO IT.
SO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY
AND TELL HIM HOW YOU FEEL.
LIKE, ADDRESS
THE PROBLEM NOW.
Sue: I'M NOT GONNA BE AFRAID
OF YOU ANYMORE,
AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA STOP ME
FROM DOING MY JOB IN THE HOUSE.
I WANT TO TAKE BACK
THE CONTROL OF MY SPACE,
AND SET UP MY BOUNDARIES
AND YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED
TO MESS WITH ME.
DO YOU MEAN THAT?
YEAH, I MEAN THAT.
♪♪
Bruni: OBVIOUSLY,
I FEEL JUST TERRIBLY
FOR SUE WITH HER FAMILY
AND WHAT THEY'RE ALL GOING
THROUGH WITH HER FATHER.
♪♪
BUT I THINK THAT NOW
SHE HAS CONFIRMATION OF THINGS
THAT SHE'S EXPERIENCED,
AND SHE'S GOT THE KNOW-HOW
OF HOW TO HANDLE THIS SITUATION.
Berry: I THINK IF SUE WANTS
TO WORK IN THE HOUSE,
SHE SHOULD CONTINUE
WORKING IN THIS HOUSE.
TONIGHT SHE GOT A LITTLE
STRONGER IN HER OWN BELIEFS.
I THINK WE GOT SUE
THE INFORMATION THAT SHE NEEDED,
AND I THINK SHE WAS HAPPY.
♪♪
♪♪
OF DEAD PEOPLE AROUND YOU.
Berry: THERE IS
A SPIRITUAL BATTLE TAKING PLACE.
Bruni: WE MIGHT BE
THE FIRST PEOPLE
TO INVESTIGATE
THE BORDEN HOUSE,
NOT LOOKING FOR THE BORDENS.
WAIT.
PUT YOUR ARM UP
LIKE THIS.
♪♪
OH!
OH!
♪♪
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING
IN THIS BACK ROOM.
SHE TOOK HER HUSBAND'S
STRAIGHT RAZOR
AND SLIT HER THROAT.
Bruni: SOMETHING
MOVED IN THAT ROOM
WHILE I WAS SLEEPING.
[ DOOR CREAKS ]
I AM AMY BRUNI.
I WAS ONLY 8 WHEN
A PARANORMAL INCIDENT
CHANGED MY LIFE FOREVER.
[ GIRL LAUGHS ]
SINCE THEN,
I'VE DEDICATED MY TIME
TO SOLVING THE MOST TERRIFYING
HAUNTINGS IMAGINABLE.
Berry: I'M ADAM BERRY.
MORE THAN A DECADE AGO,
AN ENCOUNTER AT GETTYSBURG
ROCKED MY BELIEFS
ABOUT THE SUPERNATURAL.
Bruni: TOGETHER,
WE UNCOVER THE TRUTH
BEHIND
THE UNEXPLAINABLE.
OH, MY GOD.
NOW WE ARE ON
OUR MOST IMPORTANT MISSION YET.
♪♪
HELPING FAMILIES
OVERCOME THEIR FEAR,
TAKE BACK THEIR HOMES,
AND RECLAIM THEIR LIVES.
♪♪
SO I RECEIVED A CALL
FROM A WOMAN NAMED SUE.
SHE IS HAVING
A LOT OF ACTIVITY.
THE INTERESTING TWIST
IN THIS CASE IS THAT
SUE BELIEVES THERE IS
SOME SORT OF SPIRITUAL BATTLE
GOING ON
WHERE SHE WORKS.
WHERE DOES SHE WORK?
THIS WOMAN WORKS
AT THE LIZZIE BORDEN HOUSE.
OH, OKAY.
YEAH.
OH, OKAY.
NOW I SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
Berry: EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY
KNOWS SOMETHING
ABOUT LIZZIE BORDEN.
PEOPLE THINK
SHE ACTUALLY MURDERED
HER FATHER AND STEPMOTHER.
SHE WASN'T CONVICTED
OF THE CRIME,
AND SHE WAS ABLE TO LIVE
THE REST OF HER LIFE.
THIS PLACE IS REALLY ACTIVE,
AND WE'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
WE FEEL WE TALKED TO
THE BORDEN FAMILY BEFORE.
WE'RE SITTING IN A RESTAURANT
THAT USED TO BE A CHURCH.
YEP.
THIS WAS...
WHERE LIZZIE BORDEN WAS
A PARISHIONER.
THAT IS SO AWESOME.
SO, SUE,
ON MANY OCCASIONS,
HAD PSYCHICS
RANDOMLY COME UP TO HER
AND TELL HER THAT ACTIVITY IS
HAPPENING AROUND HER MORE
BECAUSE HER GRANDPARENTS ARE
ACTUALLY WITH HER...
WOW, OKAY.
...PROTECTING HER
FROM WHATEVER IS GOING ON
AT THE LIZZIE BORDEN HOUSE.
- IS SHE LIKE A TOUR GUIDE, OR...
- SHE'S A TOUR GUIDE.
I MEAN, DOESN'T THAT
REALLY COME WITH THE TERRITORY?
I MEAN,
SHE'S IN A HAUNTED PLACE.
THERE'S RUMORS GOING AROUND THAT
PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE
HAVE MORE ISSUES --
STROKES, LIKE DEATHS.
I DON'T THINK
WE'VE EVER HEARD OF THAT.
SO I THINK SHE'S STARTING
TO BECOME AFRAID THAT
THAT IS WHAT
HER GRANDPARENTS
MIGHT BE
PROTECTING HER FROM.
OH. WOW.
THEN THAT'S A PROBLEM.
I THINK WE MIGHT BE
THE FIRST PEOPLE
TO INVESTIGATE
THE BORDEN HOUSE,
BUT WE'RE NOT LOOKING
FOR THE BORDENS.
I DON'T KNOW IF
THAT'S EVER HAPPENED.
NO, AND THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT TO SAY
THAT THE BORDENS
AREN'T GONNA POP IN.
MAYBE WE GET TO ASK
THE BORDENS
TO HELP US
IN THE INVESTIGATION.
YEAH.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK
I'VE EVER BEEN LIKE,
"HI. WE KNOW YOU'RE HERE.
CAN YOU HELP US WITH THIS CASE?"
YEAH.
♪♪
♪♪
Bruni: BEING IN
THE LIZZIE BORDEN HOUSE,
MOST PARANORMAL INVESTIGATORS
ALL OVER THE WORLD
TRAVELED HERE JUST
TO INVESTIGATE IN THIS HOUSE.
IT'S STRANGE TO BE HERE
AND NOT NECESSARILY
BE LOOKING FOR THE BORDENS,
BUT SUE FEELS AS THOUGH
HER FAMILY IS HAUNTING HER,
BUT THAT SOMEHOW,
THE BORDEN HOUSE
HAS DRAWN THEM TO HER.
IT'S OUR JOB TO FIGURE OUT
IF HER GRANDPARENTS ARE HERE
AND WHY HER GRANDPARENTS
ARE HERE.
YOU'RE SAYING YOU'VE HAD
MULTIPLE PEOPLE TELL YOU THAT
YOUR GRANDPARENTS ARE HERE.
- YES.
Bruni: AND WHAT WAS
YOUR GRANDPARENTS NAME?
IRENE AND WILLIAM.
MY GRANDMOTHER,
I CALL HER "MEME,"
AND "PEPE" --
MY GRANDFATHER.
LIKE, I'LL BE DOING TOURS,
AND I'LL BE GETTING
PSYCHICS TELL ME,
YOUR GRANDPARENTS ARE HERE,
PROTECTING YOU.
PROTECTING FROM WHAT?
UM...I MEAN,
DIFFERENT PEOPLE
HAVE HAD MEDICAL PROBLEMS
WHO WORK HERE.
WE'VE HAD A TOUR GUIDE DIE.
ONE HAD TWO STROKES.
ARE MY GRANDPARENTS
TRYING TO TELL ME,
MAYBE I SHOULDN'T
BE WORKING HERE
FOR REASONS LIKE THAT,
YOU KNOW?
AND THEN THIS ONE GUY HE SAID,
MY GRANDPARENTS
ARE IN A SPIRITUAL BATTLE
WITH ANDREW, LIZZIE'S FATHER.
- REALLY?
- YEAH.
AND THIS IS ACTUALLY
WHERE HE WAS KILLED.
♪♪
IT'S A LITTLE CREEPY DOWN HERE.
- YEAH.
Sue: I WAS LEADING A TOUR
DOWN HERE AT NIGHT
AND AN ORB SHOT OUT
LIKE BETWEEN THESE BOXES.
IT PAUSED RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME,
AND IT SHOT THROUGH THAT HOLE
IN THE BRICKS RIGHT THERE.
AND AS I REELED BACK
FROM THAT,
A SECOND ONE SHOT UP,
DID THE SAME THING.
- OKAY.
- WEIRD.
Sue: AND THEY BELIEVE THAT
THE MURDER WEAPON WAS A HATCHET,
WAS FOUND RIGHT
AT THE ENTRANCE TO THIS ROOM.
OH, REALLY?
♪♪
WELL, THIS WAS
THE BORDENS' GUEST BEDROOM
AND...
THE MORNING
OF THE MURDERS,
ABBY BORDEN HAD COME UP HERE
TO MAKE UP THIS BED,
AND THIS IS THE ROOM THAT
SHE WAS ACTUALLY KILLED IN.
THEY USED A HATCHET?
RIGHT. SHE WAS STRUCK A TOTAL
OF 18 TIMES ABOVE HER HEAD,
AND ONCE BETWEEN
HER SHOULDER BLADES.
OH, MY GOD.
HAVE YOU HAD ANY EXPERIENCES
IN THIS ROOM?
I HAVE.
OKAY.
SOMETIMES, I'M BEING POKED
IN THE BACK OR HIT IN THE BACK.
- REALLY?
- YEAH.
OKAY.
Sue: THIS USED TO BE
MR. BORDEN'S BEDROOM.
Bruni: YOU HAD
AN EXPERIENCE IN THIS ROOM?
I DID.
I SAT DOWN ON THE BED HERE
AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN,
A BLACK MIST
CAME RIGHT ACROSS THE BED,
RIGHT ON THE SIDE OF ME.
THAT IS CRAZY.
LIKE, YOU KNOW
HOW SMOKE IS GRAYISH?
IT WAS REALLY A BLACK.
OKAY.
AND IT WAS JUST, LIKE,
SWIRLING IN PLACE.
OKAY.
SCARED THE HECK
OUT OF ME.
I JUMPED UP.
I RAN UP TO THE ATTIC.
AND WHEN I GOT UPSTAIRS,
I TURNED AROUND...
THAT MIST WAS JUST RIGHT
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DOORWAY.
Bruni: SO IT WAS, LIKE,
BLOCKING YOUR WAY OUT.
IT WAS [CHUCKLES]
THE ONLY WAY OUT, YEAH.
WHAT DID YOU DO?
I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT DO I DO?
DO I RUN
THROUGH THIS THING?
AND AS I'M THINKING ABOUT
WHAT AM I GOING TO DO,
THE THING MOVED OUT
OF THE DOORWAY,
AND IT WENT INTO
THAT LAST ROOM.
OKAY.
Sue: USUALLY I DON'T SPEND
THE NIGHT WITH THE GUESTS.
I GO HOME TO MY OWN HOUSE.
WELL THIS PARTICULAR NIGHT,
THE OWNER, LEANNE,
HAD SAID, "SUE, YOU'RE THE
TOUR GUIDE ON TOMORROW NIGHT.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE
TO SPEND THE NIGHT
IN THE HOUSE
WITH THE GUESTS."
I ASKED MY NIECE CINDY
TO JOIN ME FOR THE TOUR
THAT NIGHT,
AND SPEND THE NIGHT
IN THIS ROOM WITH ME.
AND I HAD PUT MY CELLPHONE
DOWN ON THE NIGHTSTAND.
I REACHED OVER
TO GET MY CELLPHONE
AND IT WAS LIKE
I GOT ELECTROCUTED.
I SAID, "CINDY, COME HERE."
SHE GOT UP OFF THE BED
AND WALKED AROUND
AND SHE'S LIKE,
"WHAT, AUNTIE?"
I SAID PUT YOUR HAND OUT.
SHE PULLED IT BACK AND SAID,
"OH, MY GOD.
IT'S LIKE
I GOT ELECTROCUTED."
AND AS SHE SAID THAT,
EVERY LIGHT IN THIS ENTIRE
ATTIC WENT OUT.
OH, GEEZ.
WE GRABBED ALL OUR THINGS
AND SAID, "FORGET THAT.
LET'S GO DOWNSTAIRS."
BUT WHEN WE GOT
TO THE SECOND FLOOR LANDING,
EVERY LIGHT IN THE ATTIC
CAME BACK ON
AND ALL THE LIGHTS
FROM THE SECOND
TO THE FIRST FLOOR
WENT OUT.
- OH, GEEZ.
- YEAH.
AND SO, NOW YOU'LL NEVER
COME BACK UP HERE
AND STAY AT NIGHT.
I DO NOT LIKE THE FEELING
UP HERE AT ALL.
I MEAN, ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT
EVER HAVING TO QUIT THIS JOB?
[ SIGHS ]
WELL, IF IT'S GONNA
AFFECT PEOPLE'S HEALTH
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
THEN YEAH.
YOU KNOW,
I JUST WANT TO FIND OUT
IF THESE RELATIVES OF MINE
ARE HERE.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW
WHAT'S GOING ON.
- WHY ARE THEY HERE?
- OKAY.
Bruni: SUE'S FEARS
ARE A MAJOR CONCERN,
ESPECIALLY IF OTHER TOUR GUIDES
FACE THE SAME THREATS.
Berry:
LET'S GO ON CHANNEL 3.
ADAM IS GOING TO SET UP
OUR EQUIPMENT
WHILE I TALK TO RICK,
A LONGTIME EMPLOYEE
OF THE BORDEN HOUSE.
THERE MAY BE A CONNECTION
BETWEEN THE HOUSE
AND THE WELL-BEING
OF ITS EMPLOYEES,
BUT RIGHT NOW,
THERE'S NO WAY TO TELL FOR SURE.
RICK.
I'M AMY.
GOOD TO MEET YOU.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE SUE
HAS MORE ACTIVITY AROUND HER
THAN OTHER TOUR GUIDES?
YEAH, WE LIKE TO SAY
SHE'S LIKE A MAGNET.
IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN SHE'S AROUND,
THINGS HAPPEN.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS,
BUT SHE'S LIKE A MAGNET.
WHAT KIND OF THINGS
HAVE HAPPENED TO PEOPLE
THAT SPEND
A LOT OF TIME HERE?
PEOPLE THAT HAVE WORKED HERE
HAVE HAD
TRAGIC THINGS HAPPEN
IN THEIR LIVES.
ONE OF OUR TOUR GUIDES
WHO HAD WORKED HERE
FOR A LONG TIME,
SHE HAD LEFT AND MOVED AWAY,
SHE CAME BACK,
AND STARTED WORKING
HERE AGAIN.
AND WITHIN TWO MONTHS,
SHE LOST TWO OF HER FAMILY.
SHE LOST HER MOM AND HER DAD
WITHIN TWO OR THREE MONTHS.
I MEAN, WHEN MY WIFE
STARTED WORKING HERE,
THAT'S WHEN A LOT
OF OUR PROBLEMS STARTED.
REALLY?
DOES SHE STILL WORK HERE?
NO, UNFORTUNATELY,
SHE HAD SOME HEALTH ISSUES
A COUPLE YEARS AGO,
AND SHE HASN'T BEEN
ABLE TO WORK.
AND SEE, I BEGIN TO WONDER
ABOUT THINGS, YOU KNOW?
THAT MAYBE THERE'S
SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON HERE
- THAT'S AFFECTING PEOPLE
THAT ARE WORKING HERE. - RIGHT.
I HATE TO THINK THAT.
- I DON'T WANT TO THINK THAT.
- OF COURSE NOT.
BUT YOU CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER
IF THERE'S ANYTHING MORE
TO WHAT'S GOING ON HERE
THAN MEETS THE EYE.
RIGHT, EXACTLY.
♪♪
Bruni: SUE'S NOT THE ONLY ONE
THAT BELIEVES THESE RUMORS,
BUT WE'RE NOT TOTALLY CONVINCED.
IF SHE'S IN DANGER,
WE NEED TO DETERMINE
WHETHER HER GRANDPARENTS
ARE HERE.
AND IF SO, ARE THEY HERE
TO PROTECT HER?
ALL RIGHT,
SO WE HAVE HOW MANY?
WE HAVE SIX CAMERAS
ALL TOGETHER, RIGHT?
RIGHT, EVERYTHING VISUAL
THAT SHE SPOKE OF,
OR WHEN SHE HAD HER
CRAZY EXPERIENCE,
WE'VE GOT THAT COVERED
ON CAMERA.
OKAY. SO I FEEL
LIKE TONIGHT,
I THINK WE SHOULD START
IN HIS ROOM,
WHERE SHE HAD
THE WEIRD BLACK MIST.
YEAH, I WANT TO SEE
THAT BLACK MIST.
THAT'S THE FIRST THING
WE NEED TO CHECK OFF THE LIST.
Berry: SUE TALKS TO US
ABOUT THE SWIRLING BLACK MIST.
WE HAVE THIS SLS CAMERA
THAT PICKS UP ANOMALIES
AND THEN MAKE THEM
STICK FIGURES.
SO AMY AND I ARE GOING TO SEE
IF WE GET ANY ACTIVITY.
I'M ADAM,
AND THIS IS AMY.
Bruni: HI.
AND WE WERE HERE EARLIER
WITH SUE.
SHE WAS TAKING US THROUGH
AND TELLING US THE EXPERIENCES
THAT SHE'S HAD
IN THIS HOUSE.
AND SHE SEEMS TO THINK THAT
IT'S HER GRANDPARENTS.
WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE COME IN HERE
AND THEY INVESTIGATE
AND THEY WANT TO TALK
TO THE BORDENS.
IF ANY OF YOU ARE HERE,
YOU KNOW,
FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT,
BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING
FOR WILLIAM OR IRENE.
AND MAYBE YOU CAN TELL US
THAT THEY'RE HERE.
Bruni: IT'S SO IMPORTANT
THAT YOU TALK TO US.
WE JUST REALLY NEED
YOUR HELP ON THIS ONE.
HEY, THERE'S SOMETHING
IN THE HALLWAY.
I SEE IT.
JUST WALK
A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
I CAN SEE YOU.
YOU'RE STANDING
RIGHT THERE.
CAN YOU WALK CLOSER
TO US, PLEASE?
JUST COME CLOSER.
CAN YOU WAVE?
PUT YOUR ARM UP
LIKE THIS.
AS HIGH UP
AS YOU CAN PUT IT.
OH, IT'S DOING IT.
IT IS DOING IT.
WHOA!
♪♪
- IT JUST -- OH!
- OH!
♪♪
JUST WALK
A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
I CAN SEE YOU.
YOU'RE STANDING RIGHT THERE.
CAN YOU WALK CLOSER
TO US, PLEASE?
CAN YOU WAVE?
PUT YOUR ARM UP
LIKE THIS.
WHOA!
ARM UP.
HE PUT HIS ARM UP ALL THE WAY.
[ GASPS ]
AND THEN DISAPPEARED.
THAT WAS FREAKY.
HERE, COME AROUND THIS WAY
ON MY SIDE.
♪♪
WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE
TO SEE YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER
IF YOU CAN JUST STEP OUT
OF THE DARKNESS A LITTLE BIT.
COME ON.
YOU CAN TOUCH ME.
[ MUTTERS ]
I SEE IT.
WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
SUE HAS BEEN TOLD
BY MANY PEOPLE
THAT HER GRANDPARENTS ARE HERE,
PROTECTING HER.
DO YOU KNOW THEM?
THIS IS YOUR CHANCE
TO HELP US
HELP SOMEONE
WHO WORKS HERE.
YOU CAN DO SOME GOOD.
INSTEAD OF YOU HELPING US,
YOU'RE GONNA HELP SUE.
ARE WE MAKING SENSE?
CAN YOU JUST MAKE
A LOUD NOISE SOMEWHERE
IF YOU'RE WILLING
TO HELP US?
OH, I LOST ONE.
♪♪
ALL RIGHT, SOMETHING
JUST TOUCHED MY SHOULDER.
YOUR RIGHT SHOULDER?
MY RIGHT SHOULDER.
RIGHT HERE.
♪♪
YEAH, ONE MOVES
OFF THE SCREEN.
AND THEN SOMETHING
TOUCHED MY SHOULDER.
OKAY.
AND THEY'RE BOTH GONE NOW.
NOTHING. THEY'RE GONE.
- LET'S PLAY THIS BACK.
- YEAH.
[ STATIC ]
WHAT DID IT SAY?
I DON'T KNOW.
- "DON'T NEED TO"?
- YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT
IT SOUNDS LIKE.
♪♪
OKAY.
"DON'T NEED TO."
YEAH. HE'S LIKE,
"I DON'T NEED TO."
IT SOUNDED LIKE A MAN.
YEAH.
WHAT DO YOU THINK
IT WAS?
I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
FOR THEM TO KNOW IS,
THEY ARE INVESTIGATING
WITH US.
EVEN THOUGH
WE'RE REACHING OUT FOR THEM,
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME
THAT WE ARE ASKING
WHOEVER'S HERE
TO INVESTIGATE WITH US,
GIVE US ANSWERS
THAT'S NOT ABOUT THEMSELVES.
RIGHT. OKAY.
OKAY.
LET'S GO TO THE ATTIC.
Berry: WHATEVER WE JUST
CAUGHT ON THE SLS CAMERA
WAS INTERACTING WITH US,
BUT THEN IT RAN OFF.
SUE SAID THE BLACK MIST
WENT UPSTAIRS INTO THE ATTIC.
MAYBE THE SPIRITS WE SAW
JUST DID THE SAME THING.
I'M GONNA PUT THIS
OVER HERE.
I'M GONNA PUT
THE SPIRIT BOX RIGHT HERE.
A SPIRIT BOX RAPIDLY SCANS
THROUGH RADIO FREQUENCIES,
THEORETICALLY ALLOWING SPIRITS
TO MANIPULATE THE WHITE NOISE
AND FORM RESPONSES.
OKAY, WHOEVER'S IN HERE,
CAN YOU TALK TO US USING THIS?
[ WHITE NOISE PLAYS ]
DO YOU KNOW SUE?
[ WHITE NOISE CONTINUES ]
WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
IF YOU ARE
SUE'S GRANDPARENTS,
PLEASE REACH OUT
IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING
YOU'D LIKE TO SAY.
[ WHITE NOISE CONTINUES ]
♪♪
[ WHITE NOISE STOPS ]
WHY IS IT SO QUIET?
I THINK IT'S A GOOD TIME
TO LET IT CHILL OUT.
IT KNOWS WHAT WE WANT NOW.
AND WE HAVE STUFF
TO DO TOMORROW,
'CAUSE WE'VE GOT TO START
DOING OUR RESEARCH.
ALL RIGHT.
SHALL WE THEN?
YEAH.
Bruni: LAST TIME
SUE SPENT THE NIGHT,
SHE HAD ONE
OF HER WORST EXPERIENCES.
♪♪
WE'RE GOING TO HUNKER DOWN
IN A ROOM
WITH THE CAMERAS AND RECORDERS
STILL GOING.
IF ANYTHING HAPPENS,
WE WANT TO BE HERE TO CATCH IT.
♪♪
[ CRICKETS CHIRPING ]
♪♪
Berry: AMY AND I KNOW A LOT
ABOUT THE BORDEN LEGEND.
HOWEVER, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT SUE'S FAMILY.
LEARNING MORE ABOUT
HER GRANDPARENTS
WILL MAKE IT EASIER
TO CONNECT WITH THEM.
SO I'M GONNA MEET
WITH SUE'S NIECE AND SEE
IF WE CAN GET ANY MORE
INFORMATION FROM HER.
CINDY, THANK YOU
FOR MEETING WITH ME TODAY.
HAS SHE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT
THINKING HER GRANDPARENTS
ARE HERE WITH HER
AT TIMES?
YES.
OKAY.
AND WHAT WERE
THEY LIKE?
WILLIAM LOVED
ALL THE GRANDCHILDREN.
YEAH.
ALL THE KIDS WOULD
SIT AROUND HIM,
AND HE WAS
A GREAT, FUN GUY.
OKAY, WHAT
ABOUT HER GRANDMOTHER?
ANY, LIKE,
REALLY FOND MEMORIES?
NOT THAT I CAN
REALLY REMEMBER.
DO YOU THINK
HER GRANDPARENTS ARE HERE?
ABSOLUTELY.
Bruni: WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY LUCK
CONTACTING THE BORDENS FOR HELP.
SO I HAVE A HISTORIAN
COMING TO VISIT,
BECAUSE WHO KNOWS
WHAT WE'LL FIND
AS FAR AS WHAT HAPPENED NEARBY,
YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE
WHO LIVED HERE,
YOU KNOW, EXTENDED FAMILY.
ANYONE ATTACHED TO THIS HOUSE
WHO MIGHT HELP US.
WE ALL KNOW THE STORY TO
THE NOTORIOUS BORDEN MURDERS,
BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE
HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT?
- ANDREW'S UNCLE...
- OKAY.
...LAWDWICK,
HE OWNED THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR,
WHICH I BELIEVE
IS STILL THAT HOUSE.
HIS SECOND WIFE, ELIZA, HAD
HAD THREE CHILDREN.
SHE TOOK THEM DOWN
TO THE BASEMENT
AND THREW THEM
INTO THE CISTERN,
WHICH IS -- IT'S KIND OF LIKE
AN INDOOR WELL.
TWO OF THEM
ACTUALLY DIED,
AND THEN SHE TOOK HER
HUSBAND'S STRAIGHT RAZOR
AND SLIT HER THROAT.
♪♪
♪♪
WHAT BIG THINGS HAVE
YOU LEARNED, MR. BERRY?
I TALKED TO CINDY,
SUE'S NIECE,
AND SHE TOLD ME A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT SUE'S GRANDPARENTS,
WILLIAM AND IRENE.
IT SEEMS LIKE BOTH OF THEM
WERE EXTREMELY CARING,
YOU KNOW,
WILLIAM SPECIFICALLY,
THE KIDS GATHERED
AROUND HIM.
IT'S A LITTLE INSIGHT
ON HIS PERSONALITY,
I GUESS,
THAT MAYBE WE CAN USE.
I MEAN, DID YOU
FIND OUT ANYTHING?
I DID.
I FOUND OUT THAT THE BORDENS
WERE NOT THE ONLY DEATHS.
NEXT DOOR,
LIZZIE BORDEN'S AUNT ELIZA
HAD THREE KIDS.
AND SHE WENT DOWN
TO THEIR BASEMENT
AND THREW THEM ALL
IN THE CISTERN.
AND SO THE 3-YEAR-OLD WAS ABLE
TO MAKE HER WAY OUT.
THE 1-YEAR-OLD
AND THE BABY DIED.
- AND THEN ELIZA SLIT
HER OWN THROAT. - OH, GOD!
AND KILLED HERSELF.
THAT IS DISGUSTING.
I MEAN, THAT'S CRAZY.
SO, YOU KNOW,
WE HAVE SOME NEW
POTENTIAL PEOPLE
TO REACH OUT TO.
♪♪
Berry: WE'RE TRYING TO GET
IN TOUCH WITH ANYONE
WHO WILL SPEAK TO US
ABOUT SUE'S GRANDPARENTS.
HOPEFULLY,
THIS NEW INFORMATION HELPS.
BEFORE WE GET STARTED,
WE NEED TO REVIEW THE AUDIO
AND THE FOOTAGE FROM LAST NIGHT.
I WAS LISTENING
TO THE AUDIO,
AND THERE'S A REALLY
LOUD CRAZY SOUND
IN THE ROOM WITH ME.
I'LL JUST PLAY IT
FOR YOU.
[ SCRAPING ]
- I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE...
- A DRAGGING.
...SOMETHING DRAG--
A DOOR, IT'S LIKE...
IT'S SO LOUD.
AND, LIKE, I CAN HEAR
ME MOVING AROUND IN BED,
AND IT'S A LOT SOFTER.
OKAY.
CAN YOU BRING UP
THE CAMERA OF ME SLEEPING?
LET'S GO TO 3:56
IN THE A.M.
[ MOUSE CLICKS ]
NOTHING'S MOVING.
NOTHING ELSE IS MOVING.
YOUR BAG DOESN'T MOVE.
I DON'T SEE
ANYTHING MOVING.
IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT
IT IS NOT ME.
THAT'S THE BIG THING.
- SO LET'S GO UP THERE
AND FIND OUT... - YEAH.
...WHAT'S UP THERE.
LET'S START UP THERE, SEE IF
WE CAN RE-CREATE THAT SOUND.
- OKAY.
- OKAY.
FIRST THINGS FIRST.
NOPE, NOPE.
[ SCRAPING SOFTLY ]
Berry: THAT SOUNDS
A LITTLE BIT MORE APT.
- MAYBE THE OTHER ROOM?
- YEAH.
'CAUSE IT WAS KIND OF
ON THIS SIDE.
[ CREAKING ]
NO.
HOW ABOUT THIS DOOR?
[ SCRAPING ]
OH!
OH!
♪♪
[ SCRAPING ]
OH, YEAH.
OH, YEAH.
BARELY MOVE IT.
[ SCRAPING ]
YEAH.
THAT'S CREEPY.
- LET'S LISTEN.
- THAT'S IT.
THE RECORDER --
IT'S GONNA MATCH.
[ SCRAPING ]
GO BACK. GO BACK.
I WANT TO HEAR IT.
[ SCRAPING ]
THAT'S IT.
♪♪
Bruni: ADAM AND I TRIED
TO RE-CREATE THAT SOUND.
WE THINK IT WAS A DOOR
BEING MOVED.
OF COURSE THESE THINGS
WERE OFF-CAMERA,
BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES.
BUT I HAVE NO DOUBT
SOMETHING MOVED IN THAT ROOM
WHILE I WAS SLEEPING.
THAT'S REALLY CREEPY.
YEAH.
MAYBE WE SHOULD
LEAVE THIS RECORDER UP HERE
WHILE WE GO DO
SOME OTHER STUFF.
YEAH.
LET IT DO ITS THING.
AND THEN, MAYBE, LET'S GO DOWN
TO WHERE ABBY WAS KILLED.
YEAH, LET'S DO THAT.
Berry: THIS IS
THE BORDEN HOUSE.
WE'RE GONNA WITNESS
PARANORMAL ACTIVITY.
THAT'S NOT A QUESTION.
BUT NOTHING
WE'VE WITNESSED SO FAR
MAKES US BELIEVE
IT'S SUE'S GRANDPARENTS.
SUE MENTIONED BEING POKED
IN ABBY'S ROOM.
IF WHATEVER IS HERE IS
POWERFUL ENOUGH
TO MAKE PHYSICAL CONTACT,
MAYBE WE'LL BE LUCKY ENOUGH
TO GET A RESPONSE.
- ALL RIGHT.
- I'M GONNA MOVE THIS HERE.
Bruni:
ABBY BORDEN'S ROOM.
WE'RE STILL HERE,
WHOEVER HAS BEEN AROUND US.
WE'RE HERE TO TALK
TO ANYONE RELATED TO SUE.
IF ANY OF THE BORDENS
ARE HERE,
CAN YOU JOIN US
FOR A SECOND?
YOU CAN HELP US...
IF YOU COULD TELL ANYONE
THAT'S CONNECTED TO SUE,
A FAMILY MEMBER --
MAYBE IRENE OR WILLIAM --
TO COME IN HERE WITH US.
IS THERE ANYTHING
THAT YOU WANT TO SAY TO US?
IS ELIZA IN HERE
WITH US?
[ SIGHS ] LET'S SEE.
♪♪
NO.
[ SIGHS ]
SOMEONE IS ANSWERING.
WHATEVER IT IS
SOUNDS LIKE IT'S OVER IT.
"DO YOU WANT TO TALK TO US?"
"NO."
IT SOUNDS VERY SIMILAR
TO THE MALE VOICE
WE'VE HEARD
THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE.
YEAH.
IRENE AND WILLIAM ARE NOT
REACHING OUT TO US.
- I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S
BECAUSE SUE'S NOT WITH US. - RIGHT.
WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING
FROM ELIZA OR THE CHILDREN.
WAIT, I FEEL LIKE --
WAIT.
♪♪
I HEARD THAT.
THAT WAS, LIKE, A VOICE.
YEAH.
♪♪
WHERE IS THAT
COMING FROM?
♪♪
IRENE AND WILLIAM ARE NOT
REACHING OUT TO US.
I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S
BECAUSE SUE'S NOT WITH US.
RIGHT.
WAIT, I FEEL LIKE...
WAIT.
♪♪
I HEARD THAT.
- THAT WAS, LIKE, A VOICE.
- YEAH!
WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM?
THE BASEMENT?
THERE'S SOMETHING DOWN THERE,
I HEARD IT.
BE CAREFUL.
DID YOU HEAR THAT
OVER HERE?
I HEARD, LIKE,
MOVEMENT OVER THERE.
ARE YOU OVER HERE?
WELL, THIS FLOOR
IS CREAKING.
RIGHT HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW
IF THAT WAS IT.
I THINK MAYBE IT WAS COMING
FROM, LIKE...
OVER THERE.
THAT'S WHERE
SHE SAW THE ORBS.
LET'S JUST LISTEN
FOR THAT AGAIN.
LET ME GRAB
THAT RECORDER.
I'M GONNA WALK IN HERE
FOR A SECOND,
'CAUSE THIS IS WHERE
OUR FRIEND SUE SAYS SHE SAW YOU.
I'M JUST GONNA SET
THIS RECORDER RIGHT HERE, OKAY?
IS THERE SOMEONE DOWN HERE
WHO LIKES TO SNEAK AWAY
FROM THE REST
OF THE HOUSE?
IF YOU COULD TALK TO US
FOR A MINUTE?
WE'RE TRYING
TO GET ANSWERS FOR SUE
WHO'S A TOUR GUIDE HERE.
ARE THERE
ANY CHILDREN HERE?
I KNOW THAT IF THIS
WERE MY HOME,
I WOULD BE REALLY IRRITATED
IF PEOPLE KEPT COMING
IN AND OUT OF IT
CONSTANTLY.
DOES THAT BOTHER YOU?
BUT WE HEARD THE --
BUT WE HEARD --
LIKE MOVEMENT.
YEAH, SOME KIND
OF FOOTSTEPS OR MOVEMENT.
LIKE IT WENT FROM --
LIKE IT WENT AWAY FROM US
AND WENT OVER THERE
TO, LIKE,
HIDE OR SOMETHING.
I THINK THAT...
USUALLY, IF SOMETHING WANTS
TO REACH OUT TO US,
BY THIS POINT,
WE'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH
FOR IT TO GET
FAMILIAR WITH US.
I THINK THAT WHATEVER'S HERE
DOESN'T KNOW US THAT WELL.
AND THIS IS WHY I THINK SUE
NEEDS TO INVESTIGATE WITH US,
BECAUSE, ONE,
WE'RE LOOKING FOR FAMILY.
AND, TWO, EVEN WHAT'S HERE,
EVEN IF IT'S NOT HER FAMILY,
THEY KNOW SUE BETTER
THAN THEY KNOW US.
YEAH.
SO...
I HONESTLY FEEL
LIKE SHE IS SCARED.
IF THERE WAS A WAY
WE COULD, LIKE,
KIND OF APPEASE
THAT SIDE OF HER.
I MEAN, WE COULD BRING CHIP --
BRING CHIP COFFEY
AND THEN, MAYBE,
WE CAN ALL INVESTIGATE.
TOGETHER.
SHE CAN TACKLE THOSE FEARS.
SHE NEEDS TO, LIKE,
CONNECT WITH HER FAMILY
AND THAT MIGHT OPEN HER UP
A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND ALL THOSE PSYCHICS
TELL HER
THESE PEOPLE ARE
AROUND YOU,
AND MAYBE
HE'LL CONNECT WITH THAT.
♪♪
♪♪
Bruni: CHIP COFFEY IS SOMEONE
THAT I TRUST WHO IS A PSYCHIC,
AND IT'S A PERFECT FIT
FOR THIS CASE.
HE'S REALLY GOOD
AT KIND OF HONING IN
ON PEOPLE
AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS.
HE CAN ALSO LET US KNOW
IF SOMETHING'S,
YOU KNOW, IN OUR VICINITY
AND GIVE US AN IDEA
OF WHO IS AROUND US
OR WHO IS AROUND SUE.
SUE WANTS TO KNOW
WHY HER GRANDPARENTS ARE HERE,
IF THEY ARE HERE.
HER GRANDPARENTS ARE NOT
REACHING OUT TO ADAM OR I
AS WE'RE IN THIS HOUSE
WITHOUT HER,
SO IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT SUE
INVESTIGATES WITH US, AS WELL.
SUE HAS A PROBLEM
WITH THE BASEMENT.
SHE DID HAVE AN EXPERIENCE
WHERE SHE SAW AN ORB,
BUT ALSO JUST THE FEELING
IN THE BASEMENT,
IT'S REALLY TOUGH FOR HER
TO GO INTO THAT AREA.
HOPEFULLY, WE'LL BE ABLE
TO HELP HER WITH THAT
AS WE GO THROUGH
THIS INVESTIGATION.
Sue: I JUST GET
A CREEPY FEELING DOWN HERE,
ESPECIALLY THIS END
OF THE BASEMENT.
Bruni: I'LL LOOK
AT EMF LEVELS DOWN HERE.
Berry: YEAH, I'M GETTING
0.5, 0.4 IN THE BOX AREA.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING
IN THIS BACK ROOM.
I'VE BEEN SORT OF
DRAWN TO THIS ROOM,
AND THERE'S SOMETHING
MOVING IN THERE,
AND, PSYCHICALLY,
I'M GETTING DISTINCTLY MALE.
Bruni: ALL RIGHT.
I'M GONNA TAKE
THE RECORDER IN THERE.
IS THERE SOMEONE IN HERE
TRYING TO HIDE
AWAY FROM US?
WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
DO YOU KNOW SUE?
♪♪
DO YOU HAVE A MESSAGE
FOR SOMEONE IN THIS ROOM?
- PLAY IT BACK.
- LET'S TAKE A LISTEN.
- I THOUGHT I HEARD A "NO."
- I HEARD "NO."
NO.
- LIKE, I'M NOT HIDING FROM YOU.
- OH, WHOA!
WHAT WAS THAT?
Bruni: IS THERE
SOMEONE IN HERE?
- THAT'S WEIRD.
- YEAH.
Berry: WHAT IS THAT --
LIKE, "TA, TA."
Bruni: I DON'T KNOW.
Sue: GET OUT?
♪♪
♪♪
♪♪
Berry: WHAT IS THAT --
LIKE, "TA, TA."
I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S LIKE...
Sue: GET OUT?
SOMETHING WAS
NOT HAPPY.
IT'S A GUY.
YOU SEE.
SOMETHING NEGATIVE
BACK THERE.
- I DON'T KNOW.
- NOT NEGATIVE.
LIKE, THERE'S NOTHING
TRULY NEGATIVE HERE.
THERE IS GRUMPY
OR ANGRY,
BUT THERE IS NOTHING
TRULY NEGATIVE.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING DEMONIC
OR NASTY IN THIS PLACE.
IF THAT'S WHAT
YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT,
IF YOU'RE WORRIED
ABOUT SOMETHING
THAT'S EVEN
LOW-LEVEL DEMONIC,
IT AIN'T HERE.
WE SUSPECT THAT
IT'S ANDREW BORDEN.
Berry: HE WAS A GRUFF MAN,
APPARENTLY.
I WOULD BET ANDREW'S
A GRUMPY S.O.B,
LIKE, SHOOING YOU OUT --
"DON'T BE DOWN HERE,
DON'T BE DOWN HERE,
DON'T BE DOWN HERE."
I MEAN, HE WENT THROUGH
SOMETHING HORRIFIC
AND IS MADE TO RELIVE IT
CONSTANTLY.
OF COURSE
HE'S NOT HAPPY.
I WILL SAY WHAT WE HAVE
FOUND MANY TIMES
IS THAT ENTITIES
KIND OF GRAVITATE --
AND CHIP KNOWS THIS, TOO --
TO THE AREAS
THAT ARE THE LEAST INHABITED
OF THE HOUSE.
THEY'RE TRYING TO GET
TO WHERE NO ONE IS
AND THEN YOU WALK
INTO THEIR SPACE.
THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
I INVADED THEIR SPACE, YEAH.
EXACTLY.
- LET'S GO UP TO THE ATTIC.
- YEAH, LET'S GO TO THE ATTIC
FOR A LITTLE BIT,
AND WE'LL HIT YOUR OTHER AREA.
♪♪
Berry: ANDREW IS STILL
MAKING HIS PRESENCE FELT,
BUT SUE'S GRANDPARENTS HAVE YET
TO REACH OUT TO US.
WE'RE GOING TO THE ATTIC
BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE
SUE FELT LIKE HER GRANDMOTHER
TRIED TO CONTACT HER.
♪♪
MAYBE YOU SHOULD
START THE EVP SESSION.
Bruni: YEAH.
Sue: IS THERE SOMEBODY
UP HERE WITH ME?
IS THAT YOU UP HERE,
ANDREW?
DO YOU WANT TO TALK
TO ME?
THAT'S WEIRD.
HOLD ON.
I HEAR IT SAY "PEPE."
♪♪
- HERE THAT, "PEPE"?
- "PEPE."
THAT'S MY GRANDFATHER.
PEPE, OKAY.
WELL THAT'S ENCOURAGING
'CAUSE WE GOT "PEPE."
SO I THINK WE SHOULD
KEEP GOING.
PEPE, WAS THAT YOU TRYING
TO TALK TO ME?
DOES SOMEBODY UP HERE HAVE
A MESSAGE FOR ME?
- THERE YOU GO.
- YES.
YES.
Berry: "PEPE, WAS THAT YOU
TRYING TO TALK TO ME?" "YES."
WHAT WAS THAT --
LIKE, "TA, TA."
♪♪
DO IT ONE MORE TIME.
I HEAR LIKE, "LET GO."
"LET GO"?
♪♪
Berry: WHAT WAS THAT --
LIKE "TA, TA."
DO IT ONE MORE TIME.
I HEAR LIKE, "LET GO."
"LET GO"?
BUT WHY WOULD HE SAY THAT?
- I DON'T KNOW.
- I DON'T KNOW, EITHER.
AFTER BRINGING SUE
INTO OUR INVESTIGATION,
HER GRANDFATHER FINALLY
REACHED OUT TO US.
BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR
WHY HE WOULD SAY "LET GO."
SO WE ARE GONNA DO A READING
WITH CHIP TO TRY TO FIND OUT.
ARE YOU READY?
READY.
THEN LET'S BEGIN.
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THE FIRST THING
THAT I GET,
I'M GETTING A LOT
OF BREATHING STUFF.
- WHO'S THE PERSON WITH THE...
- MY GRANDFATHER.
WHAT DID HE DIE OF?
HE HAD C.O.P.D.
BREATHING.
MM-HMM. YEAH.
WHY AM I GETTING THE WORD "STOP"
WITH THIS PERSON?
♪♪
I DON'T KNOW.
I'M HEARING
THE WORD "STOP."
I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S MY QUESTION,
STOP WORKING HERE?
WHY ARE THEY HERE?
I DON'T KNOW.
♪♪
THERE'S SOMETHING
ABOUT MEDICAL TREATMENT
AND STOPPING SOMETHING
THAT THEY'RE DOING
AS FAR
AS MEDICALLY GOES.
LIKE, IF SOMEBODY IS GETTING
SOME SORT OF TREATMENT
OR SOMETHING IS GOING
ON MEDICALLY,
IT'S LIKE, THIS NEEDS TO STOP.
"STOP."
I MEAN,
MY DAD'S ON HOSPICE.
HE'S DYING.
HE HAS LIVER CANCER.
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THAT'S THE "STOP."
YOU'VE GOT TO STOP
WITH YOUR DAD.
STOP WHAT WITH MY DAD?
HOLDING HIM.
KEEPING HIM HERE?
MM-HMM.
THAT'S WHAT
THEY'RE TELLING ME.
THEY'RE THERE FOR HIM.
YOU'VE GOT
TO GIVE HIM TO THEM.
♪♪
BUT THAT'S THE WHOLE MESSAGE
FOR YOU TONIGHT.
YOU'VE GOT TO LET HIM GO.
AND THIS IS GONNA BE HARD
FOR YOU TO HEAR, BABY,
BUT PART OF THE REASON
THAT HE'S NOT BEGINNING
THAT PROCESS...
...IS HE DOESN'T
WANT TO LEAVE YOU.
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YOU KNOW,
HE TOLD ME HE WAS READY
NOT THAT LONG AGO
AND I TOLD HIM
I UNDERSTOOD,
AND THAT IT WAS OKAY.
I DID.
HOW MUCH OF THAT WAS B.S.?
THE ENTIRE AMOUNT?
PROBABLY.
THEY'RE THERE
WAITING FOR HIM.
IT'S NOT LIKE
YOU'RE LOSING HIM FOR GOOD.
IT'S JUST,
YOU'RE LETTING HIM GO.
AND YOU'RE GONNA BE OKAY.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS
WITH YOUR DAD
AS THE FINALE.
'CAUSE IT'S MY DAD.
OF COURSE.
DON'T THINK OF IT
AS "GOODBYE."
THINK OF IT
AS "SEE YOU LATER."
OKAY?
THANK YOU.
COME TO ME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
♪♪
LET IT GO.
[ SNIFFLES ]
Berry: HOW ARE YOU FEELING
RIGHT NOW
ABOUT THIS WHOLE...
THIS EXPERIENCE?
I'M SURPRISED
AND I'M, UH...
A LITTLE SAD,
BUT I UNDERSTAND.
Bruni: AND SO NOW YOU KNOW
WHY YOUR GRANDPARENTS
ARE HERE WITH YOU.
AND I THINK
IT DOES MAKE SENSE
THAT MAYBE YOUR FAMILY WOULD
KIND OF STEP IN HERE AND THERE
AND DEFEND YOU IN A WAY,
BUT IT'S NOT REALLY, LIKE,
A SPIRITUAL BATTLE,
PER SE.
YEAH, OKAY.
Chip: I THINK THEY'RE
JUST HERE WITH YOU.
YOU ARE AT A PLACE
THAT'S KNOWN
FOR DEALING
WITH PARANORMAL TOPICS.
AND WHAT BETTER PLACE FOR THEM
TO HANG OUT WITH YOU?
AND, I MEAN, THEY LOVE YOU,
AND SO THEY'RE HANGING WITH YOU.
I THINK PROTECTING PROBABLY
IS A STRONG WORD.
I DON'T FEEL EVIL LURKING
AROUND THE CORNERS
IN THIS HOUSE, DO YOU?
MAYBE SOMETIMES, YEAH.
LIKE DOWN THAT BASEMENT
ESPECIALLY.
IF -- IF YOU'RE SCARED,
THEY'RE GONNA FEED
ON YOUR FEAR, TOO.
ANYTHING NEGATIVE'S GONNA FEED
ON YOUR FEAR.
I KNOW YOU HAVE
THAT EXPERIENCE.
IF WE CAN GO BACK
AND KIND OF TACKLE THAT
WITH YOU AGAIN
IN THE SPACE,
AND JUST, YOU KNOW,
REITERATE THAT
THERE'S NOTHING HERE
THAT'S GONNA ATTACK YOU
AND HURT YOU.
WE'LL WORK ON IT TONIGHT,
FOR SURE,
'CAUSE YOU SHOULDN'T
BE SCARED.
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Berry: WE NOW KNOW
WHY SUE'S GRANDPARENTS
ARE IN THE HOUSE WITH HER,
BUT SHE'S STILL A LITTLE
APPREHENSIVE ABOUT ANDREW.
SO WE'RE GONNA HEAD
INTO THE BASEMENT
SO THAT SHE CAN FINALLY
STAND UP FOR HERSELF.
AND WE'RE GONNA
HELP HER DO IT.
SO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY
AND TELL HIM HOW YOU FEEL.
LIKE, ADDRESS
THE PROBLEM NOW.
Sue: I'M NOT GONNA BE AFRAID
OF YOU ANYMORE,
AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA STOP ME
FROM DOING MY JOB IN THE HOUSE.
I WANT TO TAKE BACK
THE CONTROL OF MY SPACE,
AND SET UP MY BOUNDARIES
AND YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED
TO MESS WITH ME.
DO YOU MEAN THAT?
YEAH, I MEAN THAT.
♪♪
Bruni: OBVIOUSLY,
I FEEL JUST TERRIBLY
FOR SUE WITH HER FAMILY
AND WHAT THEY'RE ALL GOING
THROUGH WITH HER FATHER.
♪♪
BUT I THINK THAT NOW
SHE HAS CONFIRMATION OF THINGS
THAT SHE'S EXPERIENCED,
AND SHE'S GOT THE KNOW-HOW
OF HOW TO HANDLE THIS SITUATION.
Berry: I THINK IF SUE WANTS
TO WORK IN THE HOUSE,
SHE SHOULD CONTINUE
WORKING IN THIS HOUSE.
TONIGHT SHE GOT A LITTLE
STRONGER IN HER OWN BELIEFS.
I THINK WE GOT SUE
THE INFORMATION THAT SHE NEEDED,
AND I THINK SHE WAS HAPPY.
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