Ghost Hunters (2004–…): Season 15, Episode 4 - The Castle Light Mystery - full transcript

[Steve] Somebody's moaning.

It was coming
from all around us.

[Narrator] One of America's
oldest southern plantation homes...

Bacon's Castle was
a very active plantation.

[Narrator] Holds
a turbulent past...

A lot of lives were lost on this
property, a lot of pain, torture.

[Narrator] And residents
that haven't left.

[Shari] Are you still
walking the grounds?

There was a silhouette,
and something blew past me.

I felt unwanted, like I needed
to get out of there now.

[Jason] Are you
fighting for the south?



Oh, there was a voice.

- What happened?
- I heard "ahhh," right here.

It was coming from the walls.

*GHOST HUNTERS*
Season 15 Episode 04 (IMDB)

Episode Title:
"The Castle Light Mystery"

Bacon's Castle, man.
I'm excited.

[Narrator] TAPS is in Surry,
Virginia, to investigate Bacon's Castle,

a historic home,
with a notorious past.

This castle is the oldest brick
house in the United States.

- Wow.
- Over 350 years old, man.

- How many stories are on that property?
- Oh, my God.

We're being called in
by Jennifer Hurst-Wender,

and she is
the Director of the museum,

and operations,
and education over there.



They just finished
all this renovation,

and I guess activity's
really been kicking up,

and they just want to make
sure that it's gonna be safe

to start bring people in
there, with things going on.

They've mainly been
seeing female apparitions,

but they've also been
seeing this Civil War soldier.

There's even
this weird castle light.

Some people say that
it looks like a ball of fire,

- other people say it literally looks like a light.
- Like a lantern.

Steve and Jay,
for Dave and Shari.

Go for Dave and Shari.

What do you think about this Bacon
Castle light? We're pretty intrigued.

Activity's been
happening for so long,

I mean they
supposedly have articles...

Dating back
you know, 16, 1700s.

We got Ben Hansen,
UFO expert, checking it out.

[Steve] It would be
interesting to get his take

on whether there
could be some connection,

- to UFOs on the castle light.
- Perfect.

We have a TAPS family member
who's investigated the property,

- Brad Bradley coming to - hang out with us as well.
- Sounds great.

We're almost there
so, let's do this.

[Narrator] TAPS case,
Bacon's Castle, Surry, Virginia.

- Jennifer?
- Hi.

- Jason.
- Hi, good to meet you.

- Nice to meet you.
- Hi, I'm Steve, how are you?

Why don't you tell us a little
of the history of Bacon's Castle.

[Jennifer] Bacon's Castle was first
constructed for Arthur Allen in 1665.

So how did it get
the name Bacon's Castle?

In 1676, there was one
of the earliest rebellions,

by British colonists, led by
a man named Nathaniel Bacon.

[Jennifer] Several of Bacon's
rebel's encamped here.

[Narrator] Following
Bacon's rebellion,

the property stayed in the
Alan family for many generations,

and was later inherited by Arthur Allan
the Third's wife, Elizabeth Bray Allan.

She lived in the home
for over 60 years.

In the 1840s, it became the home
of Confederate John Henry Hankins,

who built an entire new wing
of the house for his wife,

Louisiana and their
nine children,

including oldest son
James Dewitt Hankins.

[Jennifer] The Hankins turned this
property into a very active plantation,

and there were
upwards of 80 individuals

- that were enslaved here.
- Okay.

[Narrator] After
the civil war,

the Hankins family was
forced to sell the property,

and it was privately owned,
until Preservation Virginia

purchased it in the 1970s,
and turned it into a museum.

Since then, visitors and staff
have reported paranormal activity.

- So now, the activity that goes on here...
- Mm-hmm.

Something I'm interested
in is this Bacon's light.

So, the Bacon's
Castle light is by far

the most well-known of
all of the paranormal stories,

but it's reported
to be a fireball,

and it's said to originate
from where the old church is,

heading across the field, and then
ending in the tower at Bacon's castle.

- And nobody's been able to figure it out?
- No.

Have you ever seen
that or experienced it?

I haven't but I talk to a lot of
the people in the community,

and they always have
a cousin who's seen it.

- Okay.
- Interesting.

There's been reports of
female apparitions being seen.

[Jennifer] The lady in white, sometimes
she's walking down the carriage lane,

just straight in
front of the house.

People have seen her in
the garden and on the stairs.

[Demi] I came in, and there was a
silhouette standing up on the staircase,

and it froze, and it smiled
at me, and just walked away.

I said, "I'm not opening
the house by myself any more."

[Jason] So you think the woman
that's been seen is the same woman?

If it is tied to some
sort of person here,

the strongest presence at Bacon's
Castle would be Elizabeth Bray Allen.

[Narrator] After she suffered the
untimely death of her husband,

and the tragic
loss of her two sons,

Elizabeth oversaw the
property, running a tight ship.

[Joanna] I was setting up for
a symposium in the chamber,

- and I dropped - one of the chairs.
- [thudding]

And all of a sudden, I heard
this knocking from up above,

like almost somebody stomping,
telling me to be quiet.

So I went upstairs
and everything was in place,

and then I came
back downstairs,

and one of the chairs was now
facing the opposite direction.

Dropping the chair and making
the sound on the floor,

it wouldn't have been something
Elizabeth would have appreciated.

So there's reports of people
seeing a Confederate soldier,

do you have any idea who
you think that might be?

During the Civil War, James Dewitt
Hankins was a Confederate soldier,

and came home from the war, and
ended up getting in a really messy duel,

and died here, 24 hours later.

[Jennifer] And he's buried in the
Hankins cemetery on this property.

[Narrator] In the garret,
there's also been reports

of children's
voices and footsteps.

As I was going up the garret
stairs, I could hear footsteps...

And then it felt like...

Something blew past me.

[Demi] I don't want to
go up there by myself.

The garret was a place where enslaved
people and servants would have lived.

[Narrator] Witnesses also feel
a presence in the cellar kitchen.

I was in the cellar kitchen,
and all of a sudden,

I felt like somebody
was right in front of me.

I was frightened, hairs on the
back of my neck were standing up.

I definitely felt
very much unwanted,

like, I needed to
get out of there now.

[Narrator] In other parts of the
house, voices have been heard.

I was in the parlor room,
I heard a woman's voice.

Sounded like it was
coming from upstairs,

then shortly after she stopped
speaking, I heard another voice.

I could not make any
words out specifically,

I could just tell that there
was a conversation going on.

I literally got
this cold chill,

and every hair on
my body stood straight up.

What are you mainly hoping
that we're able to accomplish here?

We were closed
for a while for tours,

and we were doing
some restoration work.

We have had more things
happening in the recent months.

The activity's picked up mainly
since you were doing the renovations?

Yes, there is a lot of reports
from our guides and staff,

and I think that
bringing you guys out here

is really going to put our staff at
ease, we would like to find answers.

Thank you so much
for taking the time.

Thank you, thank you for taking
so much time to investigate.

Of course.

- Let's start setting up, and we'll do it carefully.
- Okay.

The activity seems to
be outdoors and indoors,

so we're going to focus the
investigation on the whole building.

We're also going to
look into this castle light.

With that, we've got our
good friend Ben Hansen

coming out to join us
on the investigation,

and Ben really specializes in
UFOs, strange light phenomenon,

so, we're hoping that maybe we can
find some sort of an explanation for it,

and just try to answer
some of these questions

for Jen and any of these other
people of Bacon's Castle.

- Good to see you man.
- Yeah, it's been a long time.

- Ben, good to see you!
- Good to see you.

- You too, you too.
- Wow.

[Narrator] Ben Hansen
is not only a UFO expert,

but a former FBI agent with
years of investigating under his belt,

which is why
we're bringing him in.

I'm here to help in any
way that you guys want,

I did bring some
military night-vision stuff

that would be really good
to kind of survey the outside.

- Yeah, sure.
- No, I love the idea.

What's the client
telling you?

Well, she was telling us
about all types of activity

that are going on throughout the
entire property, but that castle light,

they've been talking
about for three centuries now.

- Are you serious?
- Yeah, so it would be good to get your take on it.

This particular
location is a swamp, right?

So the idea of
swamp gas interested me,

and what swamp gas is,
is that organic material

that's breaking down
that turns into methane.

[Ben] So it bubbles
up under the water,

but if you can trap it,
you can light it on fire.

-Wow. Right, I mean,
-take a look at this.

[Man on video]
Three, two, one...

- [Jason] Whoa!
- [Shari] Oh, my God.

- [All laughing]
- Oh jeez, whoa.

So you can ignite swamp gas,
but it seems like it would

combust and then
disappear pretty quickly.

- It does, it does.
- Yeah.

Well this thing is flying through a
field, and so far I mean, it moving,

like ball lightning or
something similar to that.

So ball lightning doesn't
just happen on a clear day,

you've got to
have storm activity,

- it doesn't sound like it's that...
- Okay, yeah.

Just because it's not doing
what you guys are talking about.

I mean anything we can check
off the list will be good for us.

[Jason] Okay, so how
are we doing cameras?

[Dave] We're ready, just so
we, you know, are covered.

We got coverage in all the areas
where activity's been reported.

- [Jason] Yup.
- [Dave] Cameras are set up inside and on the grounds.

[Jason] All right Shari, you start with
Ben and Tango in the chamber room,

- and Steve and I will start on the first floor parlor.
- Yeah, let's get this started.

All right, I'm excited.

Let's go, lights out.

[light switch clicking]

[Steve] Jay and Steve...

Heading into Bacon's Castle.

[Clattering]

This is where a lot of
recent activity has happened,

over there, one of
the historians here,

she heard a voice that really,
really scared her quite a bit.

It was a female
voice, and it was

a bit of a back and forth,
like a bit of a conversation.

Is there anybody who
lived in this house here?

[Jason] Are any of
the Hankins family with us?

Steve, there's...

That was clear on this, there
was just like this, "boom, boom."

Are you trying to
come towards us?

- [Thudding]
- [both] Oh.

- There it is, did you hear it that time?
- I sure did.

It's like a boot on wood.

- It does sound like.
- It just did it again.

If you're coming near us,
please keep on coming.

- Gentlemen.
- Thank you.

[Dave] All right, so this is Dave,
Shari and Ben entering the chamber.

- [Ben] Now is this where the chairs moved?
- [Dave] Yes.

[Ben] Let me take
a seat just for a second.

[Dave] Elizabeth Bray Allen,
you lived on this property

for over 60 years,
are you here with us?

[Ben] Are you
in the other room?

[Clicking]

[Dave] It sounds
like somebody's walking.

Are you walking this way?

[Clicking continues]

Oh, that was in the hall.

- [Shari] Ooh [bleep] The front door is open.
- It is?

[Shari] Oh, my God,
come check this out.

[Shari] Ooh [bleep]
The front door is open.

- Did anybody walk in the door?
- [Dave] No.

[Shari] Right,
and nobody went out the door.

I'll go open the door
from the outside.

[Door clicking] - Could
that have been the clicking?

- It sounded...
- Yeah.

- Wait.
- Yeah, I mean that takes a lot.

- But that is the sound.
- It was, like something was trying to open it to get in.

- Right, that sounds like it.
- Yeah.

- If it was just not latched properly...
- [Shari] Right.

Wouldn't the air pressure of
the wind have blown it open?

[Shari] It's a heavy
door, so no.

Well, we're gonna have
to put a camera on it.

- [Jason] Hey hey.
- [Dave] Hey guys.

- That was a heck of a run.
- [Dave] Yeah.

In the beginning, we were hearing
a clicking noise or snapping noise,

and finally, this front
door opened, right,

when you latch it,
when you close it,

that turning was
the sound we were hearing.

- Oh!
- Almost as if something was like, attempting to open it.

- Yeah.
- And there's no wind tonight.

- So yeah.
- Right.

I figured tomorrow, we can
get a historian out here

- to at least tell us about the property.
- Absolutely.

I'd love to be able to
get in touch with an expert,

on like,
African American history,

that might be able to shed some light
on the enslaved people that were here.

Yeah actually,
that's a good call.

You know this light outside that
we haven't really explored yet,

I think I'm going to look into
what other sightings of UFOs

- might be going on outside to see if it's correlated.
- All right.

All right, I think we'll get cranking
early on this stuff tomorrow.

- Sounds great.
- All right, let's do this.

- Good job, guys.
- You too.

[Ben] Fireball, fireball-like
objects from the sky.

This is Newport
news, it's really close.

[Narrator] While Ben researches
recent aerial phenomenon

that could
explain the castle light...

- Hi.
- Hello.

[Narrator] The TAPS team
is meeting with experts

to learn more about
Bacon's Castle's history.

This is an offering
to the ancestors,

I can't come into
their sacred space,

without first giving them an offering
and asking permission to be here.

Wow, so who were the first
enslaved people in this area?

[Yemima] They went
to Africa and they kidnapped,

healers, and doctors, and
teachers, and enslaved them.

That's awful.

You worked seven days a week,
16, 17, 18 hours a day,

they were the heartbeat
of the plantation.

The enslaved
worked in the big house,

they were under
scrutiny all the time,

they had no
time for themselves,

and especially the women
sacrificed so much,

the women were expected to
have child after child after child,

so that they could
increase the free labor.

A lot of lives were
lost on this property,

a lot heartache, a lot
of pain, a lot of torture.

[Dave] So we know about the Allen and
Hankins families who owned this property,

can you tell us more about the
enslaved people who lived here?

[Lea] In 1673, there's a document and
seven men who are identified as black.

- To me, it is a sign that they were enslaved here.
- Okay.

Arthur Allen
the Second, was actually

- the first person to enslave people here.
- Heartbreaking.

One particular mother and
daughter pair that we know,

Hannah shows up in 1711, in the state
inventory of Arthur Allen the Second's.

The next time that we have
an estate inventory, is 1727,

and at that point, Hannah's had
a child, and her name is Fanny,

and it's possible that they
resided somewhere like the garret,

depending on what role they
were filling in the household itself.

[Narrator] Arthur Allen the Second also
employed a caretaker named John Finley,

to oversee the enslaved
people and grounds.

He lived in
the caretakers cottage.

I thinks it's critical that we
experience the space with

the deepest respect towards
the trauma that occurred here.

- Well than you so much for your time.
- Of course, yeah.

- Really appreciate that.
- Yeah, nice to talk to you guys.

This was wonderful,
so thank you.

It seems like there's a lot
of layers of history here

- that could retain a lot of energy.
- Yeah.

[Jason] What did your research
uncover about the castle light?

We do have um,
a dozen or more reports,

just within
the last few years,

a lot of the descriptions
are spheres,

fireballs, really
bright lights,

almost always though
there's no sound to them,

and at this point, I'm not quite
sure if it is related to UFOs,

what I'd like to do is focus a
little bit on the outside tonight,

and break out the specialty
cameras I have with night-vision.

Yeah, why don't you do that,
Steve and I will head in the building,

and you guys can actually check out
the property, and you can take outside.

- All right.
- Awesome.

Yeah, and to make life a
little easier, here's Brad, man.

- Hey, how is everybody?
- How's it going Brad?

[Narrator] Brad is a member
of a local TAPS crew,

and we wanted him
on the investigation,

as he's had
numerous experiences here.

Visually, we had a door,
the doorknob turned,

it popped,
it swung right open.

- Oh wow, man.
- That's what happened to us.

- It was crazy.
- Awesome, well I'm happy to have you on board.

- Yeah, thanks for joining us.
- Yeah, I'm looking forward to it, thank you.

- Let's get cranking.
- All right.

Jay and Steve, headed
towards the cellar kitchen.

That's the basement
area, where they feel

an ominous presence,
and have seen an apparition.

- [Soft voice on audio]
- Oh.

There was
a voice, it was like a...

Yeah honestly I'd have to say it
sounded younger though, but...

[Steve] It's wild to know that
this floor was laid here in the...

- 1600s, my God.
- [Jason] It's amazing.

So I want to know what the
voice said when I opened that door.

[Steve] Let's review the
recording and take a listen.

[Woman's voice
speaking softly] - Oh, mm.

We know this house
would have seen some

individuals that were
here against their will.

So is there anybody here who's like to
talk with us, maybe Hannah or Fanny?

Are you here?

[Ben] All right
Brad, so isn't this light

mostly seen hovering
around the outside and inside?

We've actually seen it both, we've
seen it on the outside and the inside.

[Ben] Okay, these scopes
amplify light by like 80,000 times.

- [Brad] Wow.
- [Ben] So here's your scope.

Okay.

Yeah.

[Brad] Oh wow.

- And then...
- [Ben] You gotta think like,

how long this has been reported
right, for several hundred years.

[Brad] I mean, they've seen it in so
many different places on the property.

What I think I'm going to do
is I'm gonna break out um,

- a thermal camera here.
- Okay.

[Ben] Pick up on that other
spectrum that we can't see.

- [Brad] No.
- [Ben] Did you see that?

[Ben] Do we have
anybody in the attic?

- [Brad] You saw that?
- [Ben] Yeah, I saw that.

It looked like
a flicker or a flash.

I couldn't tell if it was reflecting
up the stairwell to the top.

Now the stairwell
is in the back,

- so that was something else up there.
- Yeah.

[Dave] Let's go investigate
the Civil War soldier.

- [Shari] Did you hear that?
- [Dave] No.

There's noise over here.

[Flashlight clicking]

What did it sound like?
Like a chh-chh...

- Oh, okay.
- Like that type of thing,

- Cocking a gun type of thing?
- Yeah.

[Dave] Well I mean,
that's where they saw

the Civil War soldier,
in this direction.

Is there a Civil War
soldier, here with us?

[Shari] People see you
walking up and down this path.

- [Dave] Look, there he is.
- Yeah?

James Dewitt Hankins, buried
right next to his father John Henry.

James Dewitt Hankins, are
you fighting for the South?

You know what, let's
check in with Ben and Brad

and see if they got any
progress with that castle light.

[Steve] This is Jay and Steve,
entering the chamber room.

[Jason] This is where
the chair turned around.

[Steve] Ooh, right, you know what I
might do actually, with these sensors?

- [Jason] Oh, that's actually not a bad idea at all.
- [Steve] Yeah.

So if there's
anybody in this home...

Any enslaved individuals...

We'd really like
to talk with you.

Were you enslaved and abused
by Arthur Allen the Second?

Do you know Henry Hankins?

- [Steve] Hmm.
- What?

We've got something...

Showing up quite hot...

On that chair.

Look at this, Jay,
you can see it.

- Oh yeah, giving off a heat signature.
- [Steve] It's gone now.

Was that, was there a ball of
bright flash out the window there?

Somebody behind us?

- Jay to Dave.
- Go for Dave.

Hey, you guys didn't just flash a
light on the back of the house, did you?

No, my flashlight was off.

Just so you know,
Ben and Brad,

they saw a flash
of light in the top floor.

Dave, ask Brad and Ben
to investigate what they saw,

we'll stay on the first floor, so we don't
contaminate each other, and they can head up.

[Dave] Copy that.

We saw it over
here in this hallway.

- Right here?
- Yeah, it was that window right there.

Hello?

Did you flash the light to
make us come up here?

We're here.

- No source of light in that room, is there?
- [Brad] Nope.

It's, the power is
off to this lamp.

[Dave] So, this is where they've
seen the apparition of the lady in white,

that people believe
is Elizabeth Bray Allen.

- [Shari] Inside and out, they see her, yeah.
- Exactly.

Elizabeth Bray Allen.

[Dave] We know how
much you loved your house...

And that you... What's that?

- [Shari] Thought I heard something.
- [Dave] Okay.

- How long ago?
- Just like, 15 seconds ago.

- [Dave] Okay.
- [Shari] So Elizabeth, are you still walking the grounds?

[Ben] I don't think
it came from in here,

you can see how far
back the stairwell is.

- Yup.
- Ooh, there's another flash.

[Brad] Where is that
flash coming from?

- Is it coming from in here?
- [Ben] Yeah.

- [Brad] Definitely came from in here, right?
- Yeah.

[Ben] What happened?

[Ben] What?

[Ben] Right in your ear?

You just experienced what
everybody experiences in this hallway.

[Kenny] Shut the [bleep] up.

[Kenny] I heard, "ahhh."

- It was right here.
- [Ben] Right in your ear?

You just experienced what
everybody experiences in this hallway.

I heard what seemed like
a breath from behind me.

You can tell when
something's close to you.

And in the moment,
I was definitely like,

a little shocked like,
"did that happen?"

That really freaks me out.

You feel that
temperature change?

Do you feel that?

- [Brad] Me too.
- This part of me is 110...

- Yup.
- And this part of me is about 70.

[Brad] It's coming
from this way now.

- [Ben] Really?
- [Kenny] Yeah, from here.

Okay, I just got a whisper.

Yeah, it was down here.

- [Ben] There's no one there?
- [Brad] No.

- Did you hear a whisper?
- It was like a...

It was like a higher pitch, almost
like a female going pshh-wshh.

- I just feel like there's something...
- There might be.

Trying to get
our attention, but...

Yeah, it was curious
and then it retreated.

[Steve] Did you guys
end up finding anything out

about that light that
you saw upstairs?

Well, I wouldn't say
we found a light,

but as we were up there, all of a sudden
our camera operator just jumps back,

he felt like somebody
sighed right into his ear.

Twice we got what sounded like

- quick little voices, "boom, boom."
- Yeah.

You know, we tried
to investigate the garden,

unfortunately we did
not get any interaction.

We still have more time.

So in regards to
this Bacon's Castle light,

I think it would help if you
talked to somebody else as well,

so I set up a meeting
for you guys tomorrow

with a local astronomer
at the planetarium.

- Ooh that's awesome, thank you.
- Yeah.

So you're pretty much
out of here, huh?

Yeah, I would love to stay
and do more, believe me,

but I do have some
other stuff I got to get to.

But I wish you guys the best of
luck, and let me know how it goes.

- Thank you Ben.
- Have a good one, I'll give you a shout.

All right thanks man, it was
good to see you buddy.

- Thank you so much.
- You're welcome man.

[Narrator] While Shari and I
review last night's evidence,

Steve and Dave head
to Old Dominion University...

- This is nice.
- This is crazy looking, man.

[Narrator] To meet
with Justin Mason...

- Justin?
- Yes, hi.

- Steve?
- How's it going, Steve.

[Narrator] The director of their
state of the art planetarium.

So as you know, we're nearby at
a place called Bacon's Castle right,

and there's been
some phenomena there

that they have called
Bacon's Castle light.

Some people
call it a fireball,

and it travels through the air and makes
its way up to a tower on the property.

They've been seeing
this for 350 years,

this has been
going on a while.

Our plan, and I know
you came here to see

if can have astronomical
explanations for it,

so if you want, we can
step in the planetarium,

and I'd be glad to
show you a few ideas.

- Absolutely.
- Well come on in.

Wow, awesome.

[Justin] So back to Bacon's Castle
and what the light could potentially be,

- I programmed in a meteor shower for us.
- Oh, wow.

- Oh!
- Oh, yup.

You'll see them occasionally,

- but you see how quick they are.
- Yeah.

The reason you probably
couldn't make this stand up

to the test of, "could this
be the source of the light?"

Is they're up in the sky, and they
only last half a second, they're so quick.

Let's do one more thing, I want to
show off what a fireball is in astronomy.

- Okay.
- I'm going to put up something called a bolide.

A bolide is a fireball.

- Ooh.
- Wow!

[Justin] The fireball is much
bigger and last longer,

but again, it's still going
to be up in the sky,

and it still
happens very quickly,

it doesn't move
around on the ground.

So maybe that could
account for one or two,

you know, stories,
but not all of them.

- Certainly you're right, yeah.
- Right.

- I've learned so much.
- Me too, thank you.

- Really, really appreciate it.
- Glad to help any time again.

Yeah, this is
great information.

[Steve] This is earthbound
phenomenon, nothing aerial.

[Dave] Right, so
we've ruled it out.

[Narrator] Despite
our best efforts,

we still don't have any
explanation for the castle light.

Tonight, we'll continue to try to reach
the Allen and Hankins family members,

as well as any enslaved people
who lived on the property.

All right, we're going
to head to the cottage.

[Jason] Dave and Steve, why don't
you hit the second floor in the garret,

- and Brad, can you man the monitors?
- All right.

- All right.
- I'll see you guys in a few.

See you guys.

After you, Shar.

Thank you.

[Narrator] We wanted to
investigate the caretakers cottage,

as one of our crew members had
an experience here earlier today.

We set up our production
office in the caretakers cottage,

so we wouldn't
contaminate the main castle.

I was in there standing by
the craft service table,

and I heard some
footsteps upstairs...

Like rapid steps.

I've been on a couple of
seasons of Ghost Hunters,

but I've never had anything like
this happen to me before in my life.

[Jason] All right so, John
Finley oversaw this property

for Arthur Allen
the Second in the 1600s.

This is a footstep tracker.

It'll help us identify if
anything's moving.

- Pretty good.
- [Shari] Yeah.

Is there a John Finley here?

If there's anybody here,
we'd like to talk with you.

[Jason] By knocking, it will
allow us to see your answers.

So if you knock
once like this for "yes..."

And twice...

For a "no."

If you understand that,
can you knock once for yes?

It lit up there.

Are you able to
knock twice for a "no?"

- Ooh that was twice.
- [Shari] Oh, that was twice.

[Jason] Are you able to
knock twice for a "no?"

- Ooh that was twice.
- [Shari] Oh, that was twice.

[Jason] Okay.

Did you used to
live in this house?

[Banging]

- Yes.
- [Jason] And that was a loud bang.

[Shari] That was a yes.

- [Jason] I heard that.
- [Shari] Yeah.

Is your name John?

- [Shari] Yes.
- And that was a thump.

- [Shari] That was a strong one, yeah.
- That was like a "boom."

It's happening right
when we ask questions.

We've come up
from Massachusetts.

- [Shari] It did it twice.
- We're northern, Yankees.

Are you still willing
to talk with us?

- That was a no?
- [Shari] That was like, an "absolutely no."

All right, I'm going to leave.

This is Dave and Steve,
entering the upstairs bedroom.

Oh, look at this old drawing.

September 20th,
1880 something.

[Dave] This is time travel.

Does that say
anything, is that a name?

[Soft moaning]

- [Steve] They drew Hankins.
- [Dave] Did you hear that?

Humming?

- [Thumping]
- [whispers] There.

I heard that.

[Static and humming]

- I heard that.
- [Dave] Did you say Hankins?

- Yes.
- Can you hear us talking about this?

- [Static and moaning]
- Where is that coming from?

- It sounds like sadness.
- Like moaning.

- Like someone behind a
door or, a hidden... - [moaning]

That's somebody
moaning, like crying.

- That's somebody moaning.
- Somebody's moaning.

[Unintelligible moaning]

Where is that coming from?

Hello?

Are you okay?

Can we help you?

[Dave] That was
straight up, like, despair.

- It was like someone sobbing in a corner or something.
- Sobbing.

[Steve] If you can show
us where you are...

We'll come to you.

Do you know James Hankins?

Was he your enslaver?

- It's gone.
- It's gone.

Did we just witness
a residual sound...

Of crying?

[Steve] I got these willy
bumps everywhere.

James Dewitt Hankins
died right here,

after he was
injured in that duel.

Maybe the sobbing
is his mother.

That was insane.

[Static]

- [Thumping]
- That is...

[Dave] Is that us?

- [Garbled speaking]
- That has to be us.

Steve for Jay.

Go ahead Steve, it's Jay.

I just wanted to make sure
that you're not in the house.

There is nobody in the house,
it is only you and Dave,

and I am in
the TAPS van, closed.

That was a straight up voice.

That was a straight up voice.

Jay, Dave and I
just heard sobbing,

for three minutes straight.

For three minutes straight?

Could you tell where the
sobbing was coming from, Steve?

It was coming from the walls, it
was coming from all around us.

[Steve] We're going to see if
we can get it to happen again.

[Dave] They say that they hear a
lot of voices upstairs, in the garret.

- Let's go up there next.
- Yup.

Dave and I want to
check out the garret,

an attic space where enslaved
women and children lived.

It's possible that
the sobbing sound

was coming from this area,
instead of the bedroom below.

[Dave] This is where an employee
felt a presence whoosh by her.

Hannah, are you here with
your daughter, Fanny?

We know you were
both enslaved here,

when this property
was a plantation.

Fanny, is that you
we've heard sobbing here?

The sobbing seems
to have subsided.

[Dave] Man,
that was incredible.

[Jason] Hey, it's been a great
investigation, lets wrap.

We have a lot of
evidence to check out.

One of the most interesting
parts about the investigation,

is we were able to connect some
of the experiences and evidence

to experiences that
our clients were having.

All of that made
for a great investigation,

and I'm excited to see what Jennifer
thinks of what we have to bring her.

- All right.
- All right.

- Hey Jen, thanks for coming over.
- Yeah, absolutely.

It was definitely
an interesting investigation.

We were able to gather
a lot of evidence,

we've had a lot of experiences which
back up the claims that you all had,

at one point, we were
downstairs in the basement area,

and there was
a quick, female voice,

- and, I'll get the headphones, here you go.
- Okay, thank you.

Whoa.

So what does
it sound like to you?

- It really sounds like "creek."
- Creek?

Elizabeth Bray Allen's son
died in a creek, just so you know.

- Really?
- Mm-hmm.

- What?
- He drowned.

Okay, so that might
hold a lot more merit, wow.

[Steve] So this voice could
be Elizabeth Bray Allen's.

There was also another intriguing
situation in the caretakers cottage.

- Mm-hmm.
- I headed over there with Shari,

we were able to
get direct responses,

and we're asking if they live in
this house, and then we also asked,

"is your name John?"
because there was John Finley,

who was the overseer
who stayed on the property.

[Shari] Did you used
to live in this house?

- You see the one?
- Uh-huh.

For "yes," and you heard
the bang, now watch.

[Jason] Is your name John?

So it shows direct communication,
it shows intelligence.

Tango and I, you know, we were
investigating in this room,

and we actually
heard this sobbing.

It was really intense,
and quite emotional.

- [Steve] There's - somebody moaning.
- [Dave] Sound like crying.

Were you able to hear it?

- And it just goes, it just goes.
- Well that sounded spooky.

It was loud, and in
this room with us.

This could connect
to your story about

Elizabeth Bray Allen
losing her son,

or possibly Hannah and her daughter
Fanny, who were enslaved here.

What that crying
or sobbing is,

I'm not sure we could
ever say who or what,

but it's very,
very emotional and sad,

- but hopefully, those tortured people are now at peace.
- Right.

And there's a phenomenon here
that been reported for a long, long time,

- the Bacon's Castle light...
- Right.

- We did a lot to figure it out.
- Right.

Ben Hansen was with us using
special night-vision cameras,

trying to figure
different things out,

it's not planetary light, it's not
interstellar light -From the stories.

It appears that it moves with some sort
of intelligence, it knows where it's going.

It very well could be
something paranormal.

But paranormal is inherently kind of
scary because you don't understand it,

- but it doesn't have to be that way.
- Right.

And there definitely seems to
be some intelligence going on,

but also some
residual type haunts.

Is it Elizabeth Bray Allen, Hannah or
her daughter Fanny, we can't be sure.

I think everybody here,
it might startle them if they

see somebody or hear
something, but I don't think

- there's really anything to be afraid of.
- That's good news.

I think there's just so much more
to the story of Bacon's Castle that,

- I think it still wants to be told.
- Yeah, absolutely.

Well thank you so much, and a lot
of things are still remaining a mystery,

- but I'm really glad that, you came out.
- Well thanks for having us.

[Jennifer] I always felt that
there were things here,

but having TAPS come and
present all of this evidence

that does put
just another layer,

to this kind of
unknown story that we have.

I'm really glad that
the results are coming back

that nobody does
need to be scared.

- So, I think that went well, man.
- It actually really did.

She seemed to enjoy what
we were playing for her,

perhaps because she's so
invested in this property's history.

Yeah, totally.

You also know
that it was crazy,

on that audio,
she heard "creek,"

and the fact that we didn't even
know that she had lost her son...

- In a creek.
- I mean, oh my gosh.

[Jason] Well I'm just
happy the case went well,

and Jen's happy, and you know what,

- on to the next, brother.
- Yeah man.