Evil by Design: Exposing Peter Nygård (2022): Season 1, Episode 2 - The Man Behind the Curtain - full transcript

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There was a tip
that was sent into the Times

about Peter Nygård after
the explosion of "Me Too" stories.

We love Nygård.

The tip was that he was a predator

who was luring young women,
with parties,

and then he would rape them.

He did horrific acts in his office,

at his business, at his island,
on his plane.



When the disco opens
and everybody in the disco

drinking, dancing,
that's when he appears.

He grabbed this woman
and pulled her top up in front of me

and shook her breasts in my face

and stuck his hand
down the front of her pants.

At the end of the night, Nygård
would pick who he would like to bed

and he had the pick of the litter.
That's what it was.

I've seen a lot of things.

But nothing like that.

Like it was just depraved.

If you spoke up and you said,

"I was raped or I was assaulted,"

he can then sue you for defamation.

And the deeper we got,
the more elaborate



we realized the system was.

This took a long time to unwrap.

It was not a straightforward story.

It was 1977.

And I was a pretty fearless,
adventurous teenager.

So I went to McGill University
in Montreal, Canada.

It was my first foray
out of the United States of America.

And I was sitting
on the left-hand side of the plane,

and a man with blonde hair,

big man, kept on turning his head.

And I would see him look at me.

And, I noticed it.

Then at the baggage claim,
he came up alongside me

and said,
"May I help you with your bags?"

And said, "Where are you going?

My business associate
is here to pick me up.

Would you like a ride?"

I remember thinking to myself, "Wow.

I can't wait to tell my roommate
I met this really nice man."

While we're in the car, he says,

"You don't mind if I
just stop off at my apartment,

and then I will drive you
the rest of the way."

So I said, "No, that's okay."

We walked in

and he said to me,
"Take a look around."

I went into his bedroom.

Fatal, fatal mistake...

And when I turned around
to leave the room,

Peter Nygård was standing there,
blocking the doorway.

He threw me on the bed.

I begged him. I said,
"Please don't do this to me."

And he said to me,

"This is not about wanting to.

This is about competition.
And I'm going to win."

EVIL BY DESIGN
SURVIVING NYGÅRD

So, in the end, I worked for ten
months to get this story together.

And I went down to the Bahamas quite
a few times to interview people.

And that's sort of the slow, gritty,
mess that is reporting. You know?

Like you're slowly starting to try
and put together stories and see...

Like hear about cases,
and find victims,

and slowly work your way up to
whether it's true or not.

This is all gonna be my foyer,
you know how every house has a foyer?

I got my inspiration
from the Mayans, right?

You couldn't imagine
a bigger contrast

than Peter Nygård with Louis Bacon.

He was about as, ostentatious a
figure as Louis Bacon was reclusive.

I mean, in the world of hedge fund

billionaires, successful people,
he's like probably...

He doesn't like the limelight. And
they lived next door to each other.

Nygård built what he considered
one of the wonders of the world.

He had this 50-foot Mayan sculpture,
guarding the opening to his property.

He had catwalks all over the place.

He had a 100,000-pound glass ceiling
in what he called the "Grand Hall."

I mean, he had monkeys and peacocks.

It was quite a phenomenal place.

He also had this disco area where he
had these pamper parties every Sunday

and would blast music
all throughout the compound

and of course,
over to his neighbor's home as well.

They were friendly at first,
you know,

they got along,
and then things started to build up.

Just imagine Nygård is a party guy.

He had big parties at his place.

So the noise
would have been an issue.

They shared a driveway, which became
a bone of contention because

Nygård didn't have enough parking

and he was parking
on Bacon's side of the driveway

and that was something
he took for granted he could do.

Nygård got really big into volleyball
and he wanted to expand his beach.

So he had a team
that was out dredging.

And so this
really angered his neighbors

because they liked
the pristine waters and the coral

and they thought
he was dredging it up and ruining it.

Bacon was a huge environmentalist

and so they had a small war
going on against each other.

Louis Bacon went
to the proper authorities and said,

"You must do something
about this guy's

dredging all the sand off the beach."

And Nygård didn't like that.
He didn't want to be told what to do,

but they were having a real hard time

getting the government to take
any action to force him to stop.

PAGE 2, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 12, 2009

It all came to a huge head when
there was a fire at Nygård Cay...

HUGE BLAZE AT NYGÅRD CAY

...that destroyed
a huge amount of property,

and Nygård blamed Bacon
and said it was Bacon's fault.

Even though the fire marshal
said that it was an electronic issue.

And that took
any kind of neighborly squabbles

they might have had
to a whole new level.

He began to get obsessed
about the Bacon family,

constantly trying to get everyone
around him to join that fight

and go against the neighbors.

ON THE AIR

The guy who's done more harm
to this country today

is a guy named Louis Bacon.

It is a fact. That's how he operates.

He buys himself
into the Government favors.

It was a full smear campaign,
or at least alleged to be,

in order to basically
chase Bacon off, like away.

And I was like, "What is
this story about? What is happening?"

I thought I was doing this story
about women,

you know,
who might be victims of rape.

And then it became clear
it was actually a fight

between two very powerful,
very monied people,

that, you know,
also had allegations of rape.

So it was very messy.

Like it's not
a black and white clear-cut story.

Nygård traditionally was able
to clean up any mess he had

because he had enough money
to sue people

and drag out court cases
for a long period of time.

But in the Bahamas,
he finally pissed off someone

who had
twice as much money and patience,

and also a big enough ego
to see it through.

I had heard Nygård's people
were building a dock at Jaws Beach,

a part of the national park there.

And I also wanted to see for myself
the extent to which

he had been blocking sand,
migrating from the north

of the Lyford Cay down to Jaws Beach.

So I engaged them,

went around,
talked to them a little bit.

And I was taking pictures
and filming them.

They asked me if I was Louis Bacon
and I told them, no,

I wasn't Louis Bacon.

And I started to leave,

to go back to my car,
when this small car came zooming in.

So I started to go towards my car
and as I was just about to get in,

I was yanked back out.
They slammed the door.

"You don't leave
until I tell you if you can leave."

I knew
that if I didn't leave that moment,

I was going to be killed
or very, very badly maimed.

I got in the car,
and they were beating on the car.

One of them
had smashed through the windscreen.

So I videoed him.

-What were you told?
-Why you do this?

What is going on? This is insane?

And he put his hand through the car

and pulled out a steel pipe
and started walking away.

And then I went back to the road,
and I was far away enough,

and I paused,
because I was breathing heavily.

It became so scary that I actually
left the Bahamas for a few months.

Many people we met were frightened

not about litigation,
but about being taken out.

And that was the moment
that I was like,

is this a really dangerous story?

At some point,
these two men came forward

who had this criminal history,
this shady, dangerous history,

saying they had been hired
by Peter Nygård to kill Louis Bacon.

They used the nicknames
"Bobo" and "Toggie."

They were called "the twins,"
'cause they were always together.

What they claimed they'd been hired
for was to murder Louis Bacon

and they said, "For enough money,

we'll switch sides
and work for you now."

So Bacon hired
a bunch of investigators

to try to get to the bottom
of what this was.

I'm Damian McLoughlin.

I used to be a detective
with Scotland Yard.

I left the police about 15 years ago,
set a security company up.

I work for a gentleman
called Louis Bacon.

The initial meeting
with Mr. Bacon was very firmly

that he felt there was
a murder-for-hire plot against him

in relation
to the dispute with Nygård.

And that's the reason
I was employed by him,

to manage that situation for him.

So I flew down to the Bahamas

to verify whether there was
a real threat to life to Mr. Bacon.

I met the twins,
we call them Bobo and Toggie,

and engaged with them
in a negotiation

to see whether they can actually
bring Nygård to the table, I suppose,

and demonstrate
there was a real threat.

I don't trust them.
I was slightly unnerved by them.

Both have served criminal time.

The initial meeting didn't go well.

It was quite fraught.
It was quite tense.

And that's when they said,
"Get us a car

and we'll demonstrate to you
that it is real,

because we gotta get him in the car."

So that's what we did,
I flew a technical team in

and we put audio and video equipment
in the vehicle.

And then it became quite evident
early on

they had a very good relationship
with Nygård.

Hey, Chief, how you doing?

-Chief, you're looking good.
-Thank you, my friend.

Lots of sexy girls around the mall.

Oh, Christ, they're just everywhere.

The dispute between the two parties,
Nygård and Bacon,

was being taken and geared up
to another sort of level, really.

The trouble with me and him

is that he is fucking crooked
and I'm fucking straight.

Whatever order you give us,
we take it on. That's it.

This is my priority. I came over here
to clean up this mess.

We had him in the car five times.

So as a result of that, we realized

then that it wasn't really
a threat to life to Mr. Bacon.

Nygård didn't have an appetite

for that level of violence
or harm against Louis Bacon.

We knew he was a bad guy,

and we just shifted
our modus operandi

to try to find something else.

And so what was the something else?

So I said to Bobo and Toggie,

I said, "Listen, lads.
This is a non-starter."

And they turned around and said,
"Well, you can meet Litira Fox

and, you know,
she's got some dirt on him."

I went outside
for a cigarette with her

and had a chat and I turned around
and sort of said,

"Listen. Bobo and Toggie say
you might have some information

that might be of value
against Nygård."

And she said "Yeah, I have. Yeah."

She said, "He's a rapist."

And that's when Litira
became the gateway

to meeting all these ladies.

SUNDAY IS SUPER BOWL LADIES.

LEAVE YA MAN @ HOME
AND COME TO THE CAY.

NYGÅRD WANTS TO SEE
AND PICK THE BEST.

It was... a routine...

the way that Peter did
his pamper parties.

Every Sunday was the same.

The only thing that might change
is maybe the faces.

The first time I went there,
I was dancing with my friends,

and he just walk up to me
and touch my hip and he was like,

"Come walk with me."

And then,
he took my hand and I walk with him.

It didn't feel wrong to me
at the time.

But I walk with him and I thinking
this man was probably

going to show me around the property
and whatever else,

but we went
from there to his bedroom.

I didn't try to stop him.

Like I had a horrible life home,
like horrible.

And at that stage in my life,
I needed help.

I never really wanted to tell him

that I was uncomfortable
doing things because

I needed him. I needed his help.

And I didn't want to do something

to jeopardize
the help that I was getting.

So you like, you know, he help me,

take care of my son.
I was a single parent.

U CAN BRING GUESTS
OF YOUR SIZE OR SMALLER

He would ask me to bring girls.
He said, "You coming on Sunday?

Bring your friends."

He like slim girls.

He like dark-skinned girls.

And he like girls that have, like,
hips.

He would come down and basically...
pick what he wants.

Who he wants.
And walk them up to the room.

I don't want to say definitively that

this was a choice that,
"I'm going to look for black women."

I think it was about finding
women and girls

that are experiencing just enough
difficulty, just vulnerable enough,

that want a particular kind of life,

to be willing to do something
as simple as coming to a party.

I think the pamper parties was to
lure a certain type of girls,

out there, so he could accommodate
his sexual needs and wants.

By the nightfall, like,
things just get crazy.

That's why he's wait
'til the night to come out.

'Cause that's when he know
everybody probably drunk

and really out of their minds.

Well, I met Peter Nygård
through a friend who was a DJ.

He asked me
if I wanted to go to a party.

He said, "Everything's free."

So I said, "Why not?"

Well, when the party was over...

his security said
his boss wanted to see me.

He carried me up to him.
He carried me.

God.

Lord, I think that's the part,
but when he first met me...

he forced himself on me.

Roughing me up. Stuff like that.
Getting real aggressive.

He took my virginity.
Put it that way.

Trying to tell you what I see is
kinda hard, because I was drugged.

I was the age of 15.

One of the girls that came, too...

It was really
something about her, like,

me and her wasn't friends,
but she was younger than I was.

Like way younger than I was.

For me to see
that actually happening,

especially to that particular girl,
and being younger than I was,

it's like...

"Hold on. Like something just,
this can't be right."

You would have thought it would be
an automatic response

if you'd been raped.

The first port of call
is you go to the cops,

but they didn't trust 'em.

They were worried
if they told their story,

that it would ultimately get back
to Nygård

and then, of course, they would,
you know...

They would be in personal danger.

It's all well and good me saying,
"You'll be fine."

But the reality is,
on the ground over here,

they must manage their own security,
they must manage their own safety.

These are black women.
Nygård's a very rich white guy.

He was very friendly
with the ruling party in the Bahamas.

He had openly talked about

the millions of dollars
he'd given them for their campaign.

MINISTER OF EDUCATION

He'd have regular parties at his home
and entertainment for politicians,

both Cabinet Ministers or Members
of Parliament or bureaucrats.

He frequently made
quite a show of having many policemen

and sometimes in full battle
fatigues, with their machine guns.

And he was generally very open

about the laws not applying to him

and getting a free pass,
in many ways.

Nassau's a small place.
Almost everybody know everybody.

Like someone could hurt me, right?

So that's my biggest fear
with the whole thing.

So I try to
stay out of people eyesight.

When I first met Damian,

when I came home, the first thing
I saw was like a few police.

I thought I was going to jail
for life, okay? 'Cause I was like,

"This can't be happening."

They took me to the station
and were rude,

telling me stuff like, "I'll hit you,

and mash your effin eye
to this table."

And I'm like, "Now, hold on, man.

And I do nothing illegal so why I
in this type of situation anyhow?"

But I really almost immediately
found out what it was about because

then they start asking me questions
like, "So who you been to see?

Who you was talking to?
Who you been to talk about?

What they ask you about Peter?"

So I start getting scared
because I was like,

"Well, shit. I wonder if Peter like,
had this set up to..." I was lost.

Litira gets arrested.
Two days in prison.

For no reason
other than intimidation.

Money is power
and it buys people the ability

to go unchecked,
to get away with a lot.

And there is a huge gap
in socioeconomic status.

Very few people
who hold a lot of wealth.

We have a lot of people
who are experiencing poverty

and who are exploited
in a lot of cases.

It's like a case study
in what can happen when

power and wealth
go completely unchecked.

And if you have somebody who,
as Nygård is alleged to be,

which is somebody who is
committed to accomplishing evil,

you couldn't have
a more ripe set of circumstances.

The first person I told what had
happened to me on the Cay

was Damian because
he care about what not just me,

but all these girls were feeling.

Like Damian sit there and cry

sometimes when he listen
to some of those girls' stories.

The first time I heard it,
I turned and said, "Oh, my god."

I said, "How brave are you to tell me
that's what happened to you?"

Was I shocked? Of course.

You can't listen to these stories
and not be,

in some way,
affected by them, can you?

Probably about five, I would say,
ladies who we met who wanted

to tell a story about their
experiences at the pamper parties.

Bacon's investigators start hearing
these allegations of rape.

And what Louis Bacon told us is like,

"I know what this guy is like.
I've seen how he fights."

So, you know,
"Not on my watch," basically.

Like he sort of decided,
"I'm gonna take up this cause, too."

I think it often takes a wealthy,
powerful white man

to take down a wealthy,
powerful white man.

So I do think that it took
this silly feud...

between these two white men,
for this to come to the surface.

We knew for a fact,
over the years, that Nygård

had had very close relationships
with corrupt police officers.

It was just like we need to get
something outside of the Bahamas.

And then that's where
the law firm was brought in,

and that's really where
it really took off.

We were contacted
by a lawyer in Florida

who does transactional work,
corporate work

for a Bahamian lawyer
named Fred Smith.

Some of these women, unfortunately,

you know, they were abused by Nygård,
they were scarred

emotionally and psychologically.

A lot of them, you know, came forward

as a result of friends
or associates or acquaintances

asking them to talk with us.

A couple of the Jane Does
were terrified

and they had confided in him
to see if he could protect them.

We were then contacted to see
if we could help.

We then went to the Bahamas
to meet with some people,

so it began there by meeting,
the witnesses in the Bahamas.

What struck me when we got there is

a sort of palpable tension
that I can't really describe.

We went with private security,

and we were very careful that we
didn't use Peter Nygård's name.

We referred to him as S1
due to his influence on the island.

When we drove from our hotel

to the law office,
we were very careful.

We tried to avoid any roads
where we could get caught.

There were moments
where I thought,

"This road does not look good.
This is a one-way road. No way out."

Cloak and dagger.
And it needed to be.

It was not overkill.
It may have been underkill

because we didn't fully appreciate
the danger we were in

because we didn't realize it until we
got there, the power he had,

and how terrified, utterly terrified
these witnesses were.

I felt scared of everyone.
I felt afraid of everybody.

He always had people watching me.

Well, I don't trust no one.

I wouldn't go to no one room
by myself.

It was very personal meeting
young girls from the Bahamas,

who no one had ever believed,
who were terrified,

and they had nobody
that they could trust,

and realizing that

you now have responsibility
for vindicating their truth.

A lot of people said,
well, it was my fault.

We had so many women and victims
and witnesses that were there,

that we had to stagger the meetings
in different rooms.

I was moving from room to room
to say hello,

get to meet everybody and kind of get
a feel for what was happening.

He don't really like normal sex.

You know, I thought everybody
out there was just like he was.

I recall meeting Jane Doe Number One
in the Bahamas.

She is physically tiny.
She is a tiny, young girl.

And she told her story to a group
of lawyers and investigators.

I was 15 at the time.

Everybody in the room,

even the seasoned law enforcement
investigators, were crying.

And it truly changed my life.
I need to show people this truth.

Because if I don't,
others are gonna get hurt,

and other predators will say,
"I can get away with it."

We love Nygård.

Tonight we celebrate
our 50th anniversary in business.

A spectacular achievement
under the leadership of Peter Nygård.

So at this point
while he's under pressure,

and many women in the Bahamas
are about to come forward

to accuse him
of what he's now accused of,

he was celebrating
his greatness in Winnipeg,

and the city of Winnipeg
rallied around him

to celebrate his greatness
at the same time.

Himself. That's the only person
he cared about. Not his kids.

Not his wives and ex-wives.

Definitely not his employees.
No matter how loyal.

He only cared about himself. Period.

So, the question is,
why is it ever not enough?

Why does it have to be so many women?

Well, if you don't have
intimacy skills, number one,

if you have great insecurities
that need to be fed somehow,

he's got to do something to fill
that gigantic hole in his soul.

My mom didn't feel supported.
She had to end up having

a lawsuit against him for basic
child support which, I guess,

is a theme of a lot of other mothers
that are suing him

to get basic child support.

I did not have a bad relationship
with my dad growing up,

but he was always very private,

and he was very private
with his personal space in special.

And instead of having a day where
you're all sort of hanging out,

he'd be on his own doing his thing.

He'd have his own private office,
his own area.

To see him,
you would make an appointment.

But during dinner and sports,

he'd come down,
and then he's available.

And so you have a couple of hours.
That kind of thing.

And as far as how he would explain

having multiple females
or romantic partners around,

he would say,
"I have an unusual lifestyle.

I haven't been able to find
that special someone,

like my mom and dad were able to do."

His personal life of interacting
with women on a romantic level

was private for him,

and was not part of
the family dynamic.

And then as time went on into 2019,

I happened to be living
in the Venice Beach area.

I'd moved down
to Southern California,

and I had heard that he was in town,

and so my brother and I

decided "let's go to the house
and let's say hello.

Let's pop in for dinner
and see the old man."

After that dinner, that's when
my relationship with him changed,

I think, forever.

In this case, he had
a little girl sitting next to him

who must have been
eight or nine years old.

I watched throughout dinner,
he was going over there,

whispering in her ear a few times,
which made me uncomfortable

because it seemed, to me, like he was
almost flirting with her somehow.

But it could also be taken
as a nice guy, being nice to a child.

So I'm paying close attention

and after dinner was over,
we transitioned from dinner to poker.

And he pushes back the girl's chair,

brings her around to this side
of him, where he has the whole table

and everything
kind of like hiding him.

And I see his arm go behind her,

and I can't see
exactly where his hand is,

but I see his like elbow
going like this,

which made me believe he was

inappropriately touching her
or groping her.

Immediately it set off
all the sixth sense,

Spider sense tingling,
adrenaline rush.

I went to the mother. I said,

"Get her away from him.
He's touching her inappropriately.

Get her away right now."
She said, "Right now?"

I said, "Right now."

And I can't... I don't...
can't really remember what he said.

I just remember
staring at his eyes and I...

I was so angry, and it felt like the
walls around him were like shaking.

And I see his face
and I'm just thinking like,

"What did I just see?"

I actually waited a couple of months
before I spoke to him about it.

What I got was,
"How sick are you for thinking that?

What's wrong with you? There's all
these people at this dinner party.

You're the only one that sees this.
What's wrong with your brain?"

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It is such grief and disbelief

when people have had experiences

of being loved or taken care of
by somebody

who could then turn to another person
and brutalize them.

It's mind boggling
to a traumatic degree.

They're saying, "Look, there he was
playing volleyball with me.

Did he rape somebody that day? Did he
rape somebody else in the picture?"

I encourage people
just to pause for a second

and imagine what that could
feel like. How terrifying.

How utterly destroying that is
to somebody's identity.

So our relationship began to go
downhill in terms of how I viewed him

as a man and what he was capable of.

The father that I thought I had
wasn't real.

And now I was dealing with the man
behind the curtain so to speak,

and that person was evil.

Ten women
accuse Manitoba-raised Peter Nygård

of raping them at his seaside mansion
in the Bahamas.

Young women,
including Bahamian women,

have come forward to tell
extraordinary stories of abuse.

Six of the women
were only 14 or 15 years old

at the time of the alleged rapes.

The civil case was filed first
here in America,

and in the first actual complaint
we filed,

there were nine Bahamian women
and one American woman.

So it was initially Jane Does
1 through 10,

versus Nygård and his companies.
That's how it began.

He asked me to not read
the civil complaint. Not read it.

He wanted me to turn a blind eye
to all information

and he wanted me to publicly go out
and start defending him,

putting my reputation out there

and saying, "I know my father.
He's this wonderful guy.

He would never do this.
It's all the evil neighbor."

That's what he wanted me to do.

Now the culture is shifting.

Now we're in a Me Too movement.

Many more felt
much more comfortable to report.

The first thing was
a class action lawsuit.

When the civil case was announced
in February of 2020,

I thought,
"Wow, there's ten of them."

Just knowing that there are
other women out there,

I knew instantly
that it was my moment.

The day that I walked over
to Greg Gutzler's office,

I went through a myriad of emotions.

I was thinking,
"Oh, god. I'm really doing this.

I'm really, finally doing this.

It's long overdue.
But can I trust? Can I trust?

What's gonna happen?
Is my daughter gonna be safe?

Am I gonna be safe?
Is he gonna come after me?"

But I thought, "I have to do this.

I can't let fear allow me
to make the wrong decision,"

and I knew it was the right time,

despite the fact
that I was truly afraid.

They asked me who I was

and I just said
I was a victim of Peter Nygård.

And they asked me...
I won't forget this either.

They said, "What year was this?"
And I said, "It was 1977."

And I remember there was silence.
And I remember thinking, "Oh, my god.

I'm probably
one of the earliest victims."

When one victim comes forward,

it emboldens others to come forward,
as well, and say,

"This happened to me, as well."

And you know that from these cases
with Nygård, Epstein,

and Weinstein, all of that,
it's like a waterfall.

You know, people come forward
and say, "Yes, I was also a victim."

After Peter Nygård raped me,
in my heart,

I truly believed it was a one-off.

And when I learned
that he had been doing it

consecutively since those days,
'78, '79...

my reaction was, well, I guess he had
his training wheels on in Winnipeg.

And his training wheels came off
and he moved on, you know,

to bigger and better, greener
pastures, where he just ran amok.

I have met with each and every one
of these people.

I met with them in person or spoke to
them extensively on the phone.

So I can tell you it's weird for me
to refer to them as "Jane Does"

because that sort of sanitizes
and obviously anonymizes them.

But when you know them, and you've
seen their faces and their tears,

and you've seen them talk about
their family, it's a grave disservice

to refer to them as Jane Does.

But we do it
to protect them from retaliation.

And let me be very clear.

The women that we know
is the tip of the iceberg.

There are probably at least
another hundred women out there

who have been harmed by this pervert.

How are the stories verified?

It could be emails showing
they were invited to the party.

PAMPER PARTY IS ON
LIKE DONKEY KONG ON SUNDAY PPL!

GET READY TO DANCE AND WHINE!

Pictures from the party.

The person who saw them
getting taken up to the bedroom.

The person who drove them home
while they were crying.

This idea that: People knew
what they were going to.

Everyone knew what was going on
at Nygård's place,

what happened at those parties,
so why would you go?

But the truth is that one, everyone
didn't know what was going on.

And two, sometimes people will take
the risk because they see a benefit

and they're hoping
they'll get that benefit.

Are we really going to hold
14, 15, 16-year-olds accountable

for the decisions that they make
when they're in a situation of need

or when they have
imperfect information?

That's more
than a little bit ridiculous.

We had hundreds
of phone calls and emails

from people all over the world
who were calling us.

We couldn't keep up with the phone
calls, they were coming in so fast.

RE: JANE DOES 1-10
...RAPE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT...

Everybody has their own story
but there were certain patterns

and trends we would see
in terms of their claims.

If someone has economic
vulnerability, you offer them money.

If somebody
wants to build up their career,

you're offering them
a job or an opportunity.

If someone doesn't have any food,
you invite them to a party or dinner.

That's all you really have to do.
And you bring them close.

Alcohol would be pushed on them,
regardless of their age.

The bartenders would slip drugs,
mickeys in the drinks.

FUCK BUDDY

He threw me on the bed.
I started screaming for help.

And he said to me,

"You can scream as much as you want,
but nobody is going to hear you."

I was scared, but I was alone.

And... I couldn't stop it.

I have no memory of getting home,
to this day.

No memory.

And I just remember
getting home, getting in the shower,

and I just threw up.

And I thought,
"I can't believe I am alive."

It was an avalanche of stories
with remarkable similarities

in terms of certain patterns
and unique details.

Details that were never published.

Details that weren't in the lawsuit.

Details
that had never been discussed.

Then you know you've got something.

So how did Peter Nygård do this?
How did Jeffrey Epstein do it?

How did R. Kelly do it?
How did Harvey Weinstein do it?

Money and power.
Right? Money and power.

Without money and power, they
cannot do this on a widespread scale.

When the first civil case came out,

it was a big deal
and it made big news.

But it was a civil case and it's not
the same as a criminal case.

Anybody can sue anybody for anything.
It doesn't mean it's true.

And I don't think people knew
for sure what was gonna happen.

Would these ten women be enough?
Would the police get involved?

Would he fall?
We didn't know, at that point.

DOZENS OF NEW ACCUSERS ADDED...

There was no upside in coming forward
as a survivor of sexual assault.

They were paying a personal
high price, by telling these stories.

And if the victims come forward,

they know they face court,
they face the media,

they face public opinion
as to what took place.

"Are people going to believe me?"

Do they think, "Why did I wait
all these years to report it?"

He refused to talk to us.
We tried many times to talk to him.

He hired a PR guy in New York

who tried to threaten,
cajole, push us off.

So there was a lot of push back
at the beginning.

...AND INTERNATIONAL RAPE CASE

But our story ran at the same time
that he was facing a class action.

So once the story ran, there was
nothing. Absolutely nothing.

One thing that came out as part
of the New York Times investigation

was that two women said
they had been paid to lie

and said, in fact, "We weren't raped

and we only said that
because we'd been paid to say that."

It didn't mean that other women
weren't telling the truth.

And, you know,
since the class action launched,

you see all these women
coming forward with stories.

So I think
both these things can be true.

And also, I have to say,
it's complicated.

Like some of the women who were
girlfriends for him and recruited,

you have to kinda
go down into the muck

and realize that you can be both
a victim and a victimizer.

You can be both those things.
It's not clean.

It's mostly about being believed.
That's the number one issue.

Being believed, finally, and having
the safety to have a voice.

That's what's at stake.

NYGÅRD ACCUSED
OF MULTIPLE SEX ASSAULTS

February, we have the civil suit that
makes news all around the country.

And immediately I contact him.

I ask him
what the H-E-Double Hockey Sticks

is going on with this situation.

And he told me
that it was all a conspiracy

to defame him, orchestrated
by his neighbor in the Bahamas,

the same one he'd been, quote, "at
war with" over the last ten years.

The problem for me was that I
see he's arrested for rape in 1980.

I'm hearing this former employee,
who I knew, had...

accused him
of drugging and raping her.

I have my own view of when I felt
that he touched a child.

So it's not lining up
with the neighbor story,

conspiracy theory, because there's
all this other smoke and fires

on the other side of it.

As I became more and more convinced
that I was seeing information

or gathering evidence that would be
useful to the investigation,

I said, "I want to do whatever I can
to help this investigation

and to make sure that he has to
face his accusers in a court of law.

Because I believe
that he will flee the country."

You can't stop somebody

from fleeing the country
until you have an arrest warrant.

So what do we need to do
to get an arrest warrant?

THE PRODUCERS CONTACTED
MR. NYGÅRD'S REPRESENTATIVES

IN THE COURSE
OF PRODUCING THIS PROGRAM.

THEY DECLINED TO PARTICIPATE
AND ADVISED

THAT "MR. NYGÅRD CATEGORICALLY DENIES
ALL ALLEGATIONS OF WRONGDOING."